#184 - Dr. Robb Kelly - The Recovery Expert

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Man, we're live.
We're.

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Live tootman twitters.
Welcome to welcome to the show,

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everybody.
That's Doctor Rob right there.

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That's.
Right by guitar.

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Right, that's Mike on guitar,
man.

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That's me.
I like this with Chris, Yeah.

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That's awesome.
That's me singing.

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No way, this sounds awesome.
Yeah, we're not just a pretty

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faces man.
Yeah, damn.

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People are surprised by that for
sure.

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Yeah, yeah, us.
Well, it's good studio mixing

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quality.
Yeah, he did.

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He recorded in.
We recorded in his apartment.

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Welcome to the Chris and Mike
show.

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He's Mike.
I'm Chris.

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And we are blessed to have a

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really cool superhuman with an
amazing life resonating with us

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today.
His name is Doctor Rob Kelly and

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we're going to let him kind of
just take it away.

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Let us let him let him tell you
why he's here and where we're

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going to, you know, deep dive
into conversations.

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Take it away, Doctor Rob Kelly.
Absolutely.

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Thanks, Mike.
Thanks, Chris.

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Hey guys, my name is Doctor Rob
Kelly.

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He will call me Doctor Rob
amongst other things, but we're

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going to stick to Doctor Rob
this time.

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As you can tell from the accent,
I'm from East Texas, I'm from

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Manchester, England.
I've been, listen, I'm, I'm not

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American, but I got here as
quick as I could, guys, I swear

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to God.
So I've been over here my 20

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years and listen, I, I was born
on the projects guys.

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I grew up in a very poor family,
learn to fight real quick where

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I came from and you know, I
wasn't comfortable on the

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streets.
I always wanted to get off the

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Council of States and the
projects.

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And finally 20 years ago, after
homelessness and dying on the

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streets and losing everything, I
I arrived in Dallas, TX 20 years

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ago for three weeks only and I
never went back home again.

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So back in the day, I applied
for my green card, came in about

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four months.
And yeah, I did.

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I did like a little movie after
that where they paid me a

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fortune.
So with that money I set up in

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Dallas and four years ago we
moved down to San Antonio.

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But I still have Dallas, Dallas,
San Antonio offices,

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Switzerland, Spain, Manchester,
UK offices, and we've got four

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companies going.
We're doing good.

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We're living the dream instead
of dreaming a living.

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Man, that is so.
Impressive.

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Wow.
You're worldwide.

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And, and you know why I have 4
successful businesses, I'll tell

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you because I don't give a shit
what people think about me

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anymore.
You know, it's like what if I

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got to lose a business goes
under, what they're going to do,

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take Christmas off me?
I don't care, you know.

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So it's, it's balls to the wall
for me all the time.

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I'm not scared enough and I
don't care about what you think

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about me.
Then days have gone man.

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Such a weight off my shoulders.
That's that's one of the

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benefits of, of getting older in
life, right?

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You when you're younger, you
kind of have this, you have this

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or like, oh, you know, what are
they going to think?

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If I look like this or dress
like this?

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If I talk like this, if I if.
But as you get older, you

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realize that you know what?
Fuck you, I'm.

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The one doing the work every
day, right?

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Right.
Right, like my wife.

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My wife always tells me, tells
people that with me, it's a love

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or hate.
You either love Chris, you hate

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Chris.
There's no grey.

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There's no in between.
No, no.

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Grey, I love that.
I usually just like crazy.

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I got yellow pants on, blue
shoes, pink shirts.

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Photi, you know Well, you're at
your age psychologically.

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Guys, I'm 35.
I'm just sticking with 35.

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I don't look 65.
I'm not 65.

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Go away with that old man's crap
with me.

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I'm not playing that anymore.
Are you telling me you're 65?

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Doctor up. 65 Yeah, I'm 60.
Five, you do not look 65.

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No, I'm going to.
Thank you man, I just lost 153

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lbs.
Oh wow.

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Over the last two years.
Yeah.

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So I'm in the best shape of my
life.

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Oh, there you go.
OK, feeling good.

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There you go.
Shut up, Fresh.

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I don't know.
I'm not even playing with you.

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No, see, here's the thing.
I'm 56, so you know, I'm the

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same concept.
Like my wife and I were talking

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the other day that that that we
were sitting on the couch and

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it's like we have friends that
are in their 50s and they look

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like they're 70 and it's like
we're 56 and 51 and nobody's

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ever guessed how old we are.
Nobody let me.

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Tell you a little story real
quick.

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So we went to a pair somewhere
down South Galveston and we

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walked on and you got to pay.
But over 65 is called seniors

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and you get like half price,
right?

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I'm 64 at the time and we
watched something this guy said

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two seniors.
I went no, I mean two seniors.

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Well, it's 65 and you get like
half.

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I will pay full price.
Thank you and I did.

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Right, seven months to go.
Right.

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But it's that's the thing
though, it's all mindset.

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Age is just a number.
When I was a kid, you know,

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people hit 40.
They had that over the hill

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party, all the black balloons
and shit.

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When they hit 55, they moved out
of that residential neighborhood

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and and slid into those adult
community only things.

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And then within five years they
were dead.

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It's like now, you know, 50 is
like the new 30 because it's

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just the way you take care of
your body, the way you eat

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healthy, the way you work out
and you maintain, you know, the

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the core for which is body being
balance of business.

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You get all that stuff, dial in
your, you're going to, you're

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going to feel and look as young
as you want to regardless.

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Of well, all three of us growing
up, we were taught to not trust

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anybody over 40 when we were in
our 20s, right?

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We lived through that.
Now you laugh at that.

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We're in our 50s and 60s and
we're like, man, we're in our

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prime.
We're still going, we're still

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learning.
We're becoming better people,

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healthier people.
I still run.

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I lift it every day.
I lift something, you know, if

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it's not a gin.
I lift.

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I watch what I eat, make sure
that what I eat is being

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methylated properly.
I don't believe in

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pharmaceutical companies.
I think they're going to kill

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us.
Well, they are so pharmacy, so

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food industry gets us sick, and
pharmaceutical keeps us sick.

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Oh yeah, I know.
Away from that.

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Yeah, we have some friends that
that were born in in South

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Africa and lived in Jamaica for
a few years.

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They've been in Arizona now for
six.

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And it blew my mind when we were
having a conversation one night,

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we all went out that they never
got sick till they moved to

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America.
Like in Jamaica and South Africa

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they were very rarely ever sick.
It was just coming to America.

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The first year in America with
how we process foods and just

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all the quality of different
things.

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It's the constantly were sick
sinus infections and stomach

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aches and flus and colds.
Mind boggling to me.

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I mean, the stuff that's in it
over here.

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So McDonald's fries in England
have four ingredients.

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McDonald's fries in America has
27 right we've.

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Discussed that on this podcast.
That's funny, you bring.

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Insane.
And every food you can get we I

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get my bread.
I like a bit of bread, so I get

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my bread from the UK.
Four ingredients.

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I think it's salt, flour and
something.

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Yeah, four ingredients.
I pay $12.00 a loaf, right?

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You can get low safe for four
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I don't care.
It's pure white, it's pure

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eating.
It's just like I put on so much

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weight when I came and I can't
understand it.

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Like a meeting kind of the same
thing.

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Then I went to a doctor.
He said, oh, don't worry, you're

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getting old.
And I thought, no, I'm not

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buying that.
So I went to another guy who was

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all organic and he, he took, he
got like 6 or 7 labels of food I

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used to buy.
And he's going and I'm like, Oh

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my God.
I never, I never saw it.

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I said, no wonder you're putting
weight on.

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Jesus, you're eating this shit.
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So when I met Gary Brecker,
who's now one of my best

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friends, he, he, he told me what
to eat.

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Stay away from this.
This, this, the weight drops.

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I feel better.
You know, it's just my mind is

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sharp, man, really sharp.
But it's choices that we make.

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Yeah, see, I get my bread for my
daughter.

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She she bakes it.
So again, for, yeah, there's

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there's, there's, there's Gary
Brecker.

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Right there.
Hey, Gary.

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So let's talk about yeah, so
let's talk about the the five

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people.
And I, I know who Grant Cardone

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is because I'm in real estate.
So he's he's obviously a lot,

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does a lot in the real estate
world as far as motivation

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speak, things like that.
Everybody else who Tony Robbins

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is, love him or hate him, people
know who he is.

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I've never heard of Gary.
Obviously I heard of Jenny

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McCarthy because, you know, MTV,
right.

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And then I want to say I've
heard of John, but if you can

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kind of let us know who these
other five people are with you

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and what how they're involved
and what you're doing with your

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cover group, that would be
fantastic.

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I only see 6.
Is there more than?

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Six.
Well, well, you're you're,

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you're the 6th man.
Oh, I'm sorry.

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OK.
Yeah.

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So John's a a business guy.
So this is a conference.

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So obviously, Tony, I'm in years
and years and years and years

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ago and I can't say he went
through our program because

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can't say that Grant Cardo I met
with Gary Brecker.

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Gary Brecker is just an amazing
human being.

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Jenny.
I know because of the Wahlberg

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family, right.
So, yeah, so I get to hang

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around and work with a list
celebrity CEOFBICIAI mean all

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them guys is is kind of friends
or patients or colleagues.

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But yeah, I mean, I look at me
and Gary speak most, most days.

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And some of the revelation that
he's shown me about, you know,

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being that superhuman is is just
incredible, really.

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Because because one mindset is
like this.

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I opened.
I opened a English restaurant

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next to my offices.
I called it the old English

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T-shirt.
We sell everything that you can

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buy in Britain, fishing chips,
fine chips, all that we sell and

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my financial guy and people
around us go you must be insane.

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First of all.
Probably.

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First of all, do you have any
experience?

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No.
Well, he's going to write my

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sister.
So she has experience.

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No.
Well, who has experience?

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Nobody.
Nobody.

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You can't do, you cannot open
this restaurant.

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How much you putting in?
200 grand you are in.

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We're in the top 12 of affluent
businesses, restaurant business.

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This is San Antonio and we've
been open for two years.

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That's fantastic.
We're great believers that you

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can do anything you want in the
world.

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You can achieve anything.
I'm not a political guy.

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I don't give a shit about
politics.

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But one thing I say to people
all the time, because when he

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used to come over there, I used
to.

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You can do anything.
And the the first thing that guy

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said to me in America said,
well, I can't be present in the

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United States.
We had a businessman few years

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ago running the country with no
political experience whatsoever.

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Don't dare tell me you can't
achieve your dreams.

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Somebody's put that there.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah, Yep.
Yeah, I would say a lot of it

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starts with not listening to
other people.

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Because they'll they'll design
your life for you.

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You know, even when when we look
kids at school, we used to play

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in the streets in at night time
4:00 play football and we'd

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often be found doing this, you
know, kick the ball to John

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Johnny.
What do you want to be when you

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grow up?
I want to be a doctor.

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What about you, Bill?
I want to be a football star.

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What happened to them?
Dreams.

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They got kicked out of us by our
family and friends.

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That was so stupid.
Rob, You can't go to college.

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You can't be a doctor.
We're from the projects.

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People from the projects don't
do that.

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Get a normal job digging the
roads like Dad.

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Have a couple of children live
on the projects.

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That's it.
That's what you're that's what

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you're worth and that's your
placement.

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And I just wasn't having that.
Yeah.

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So I remember from reading the
emails that you've sent us in

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our, you know, pre show
communication, you've been

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there, done that as far as the
addiction side of it, right?

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Yeah.
Would you say that led to a lot

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of your success in being able to
convince other people?

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If I can do this, so can you,
Because I say that a lot.

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If you've been there, done that,
you're not going to bullshit

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that person, right?
True.

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First of all, if, if, if, if you
haven't been through alcoholism

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and addiction, you can't help
anybody.

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I don't care how many degrees
you've got.

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You can't help it because you
don't know where my mind is when

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I want to drink.
And, and we everything I say on

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here is tested earlier.
You're beautiful. 20 years.

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Of trial, what we do 20 years.
Yep, beautiful. 2121. 21 I just

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reached legal Legal.
Drinking age for an alcoholic.

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I love it.
I love it.

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But it's true.
I mean, you can't, you know,

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doctors or scientists, they
can't help us, you know.

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So by going through at the time
and I lost everything because I

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did come off the projects and I
did make something myself and

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then I drank everything away.
Kids can't have wife holiday

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homes and see.
That's where you and Mike are

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the same.
That's where.

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That's where you and Mike went
up.

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Yeah.
Yeah, I was living in my car,

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Doctor Rob, but.
You had a car.

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I had a car.
I couldn't.

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I couldn't drive it, but I was
living in it.

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Oh, that's good.
Yeah, that's good, man.

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Yeah.
I'd be often found in dumpsters

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and under trees.
And when I passed out in the

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road somewhere, I was just I I
died twice on the streets and

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then eggs brought me back to
life.

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And I hated those guys for that.
Then medics back in the day.

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But yeah, man, you've got to go
through it.

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And I tell people when I we do
conferences, I tell people all

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the time, you know, we'll get a
couple on stage and to go.

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What's your dream?
I want to run my own business.

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Why can't you?
Why?

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But stop right there.
Give me one reason you can't do

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this.
Well, it's big as an excuse.

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Give me a reason.
You can't give me a reason

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because you're full of fear and
you're scared.

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We'll tell you something now,
Billy, I, if we went to court

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tomorrow, you brought all the
evidence that you can't do this

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and I brought all the evidence
that you can do this.

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The judge is not only going to
throw you out of court, he's

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going to do you for contempt of
court because you have one piece

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of paper, man, and that one
people's piece of paper is

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bullshit from your hearing
people around you.

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Don't be so stupid.
You can't.

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You're doing what?
You're opening a British

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restaurant in Texas.
This is Tex Mex country, Rob,

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you're insane.
You know what my answer is?

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Says who?
Yeah, I would go to your

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restaurant just because it's not
Tex Mex, Just saying.

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There you go.
There you go.

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You know what I mean?
Just because I just I, I I like,

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I like outside the norm, like I,
I don't want to authentic, you

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know exactly you.
I mean, everybody has their

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every state has their thing,
right?

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But yeah, why go if there's
15,000 Tex Mex places and then

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there's your spot?
All right, Yeah.

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I'm going to go to yours just
because I want to see what it

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tastes like, what the foods.
Yeah.

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I like when somebody says I do
it different.

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Yeah, right.
That's what we did.

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I didn't, I, I, I don't have an
experience in restaurants, but I

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didn't want any the people we
hired want.

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They have to have one thing and
that's no experience because we

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wanted it to be like a, a theme,
like a show when you come in.

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So it just so happens that most
of the staff are English and,

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you know, when they walk in,
they see all the British stuff.

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The Brits come from out of
nowhere in San Antonio to come

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see us.
So yeah, I'm all about providing

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something that nobody else
provides.

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And even with my other companies
like My Arcade might do for a

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living, we we do stuff that
other people are not doing with

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1020 thirty years ahead of
anybody else out there doing

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what we do.
Yeah, that's awesome.

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Why be normal?
Exactly so.

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End up on the streets.
So explain to us what it is

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exactly you do, because like I
alluded to when we started, you

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have this amazing life resume
and and look at your website.

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There's so many rabbit holes to
go down.

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So if I came to you, if I met
you at your restaurant, say you

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came out and said, hey, how's
the food?

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I'd say it's great.
Doctor Rob, can you tell me what

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you do?
What is it that you do?

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What's your thing?
What is it?

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What is it?
So I'm a psychologist and a PhD

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psychologist, PhD behavioral
scientist, and we're

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neuroscience experts.
So we're more neurosciences than

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we are doctors because we
studied the brain intensely now

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for about 15 years, way before
everyone told us the brain is

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hard wired.
This is stupid.

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Texas topped my license off me
once because he said I was

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teaching woo woo stuff.
Yeah, I to those guys today.

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I don't know how that works.
Plus I got my license back.

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So yeah, we, we restructured
your brains.

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We, we, we use stuff like the
ventromedicable cortex, the, the

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insular, the hippocampus, the
hypothalamus, they all play a

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part from our test and trials
and research that we've done.

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So the statement is, and people
freak out until they go and do

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the research.
And we're at the head is

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Alcoholics are born and drug
addicts are made.

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So we treat anxiety, depression,
PTSD.

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We're just doing early trial
work with Alzheimer's where

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we're seeing a huge turn around.
So that's what we do.

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Anything psych, behavioral
science wise, whether you're an

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alcoholic or just somebody who's
depressed, who's lost his job

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but wants to start his own
little thing, they come to us,

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man.
And, and we heal and we push him

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for, we'll build websites for
you, we'll make contacts for

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you.
We'll, you do all this crazy

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stuff.
So yeah, it's, you know, we love

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what we do because we do what we
love.

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Right.
And I, and I love your saying

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that the problem is not our
drinking, it's our thinking.

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Do you know what?
I got that from Chris?

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You won't really relate to this.
Both.

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Both of you guys will.
So I'm outside a liquor store.

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It's 5:00 in the morning.
I've got a vest on, pair of

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shorts, pair of flip flops.
I'm sweating profusely and it's

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snowing.
So I know from my past I'm going

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through what's called the DTS
guys, the learning trams, which

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means alcohol or hospital in the
next hour.

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Otherwise I'm dead.
This Pakistani guy always opens

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the door at 5, not supposed to
serve until 7 closes the door

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behind him.
I get in and I don't know what

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happened this day but this was
me.

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I was, I hate I'm a Bang Bang
Bang Bang head and I'm sweating

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and I I can't really walk
properly and I put my 10 LB on

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the counter and he put the
bottle of vodka on the counter

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and for whatever reason that
day, this is what I did.

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Then open the bottle had my hand
round the neck of the bottle,

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sweat stopped nervous and
stopped shakes, headaches went

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away in milliseconds.
I remember looking at the bottle

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looking at the shopkeepers like
in slow motion and a lot back

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and I went holy fuck, it's not
the alcohol.

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And that's when we did our
research and found out that

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alcohol has 1% to do with
alcoholism and the same with

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every other addiction.
Food, porn, cake, whatever, it

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is not the problem.
See, I was, and, and being 21

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years sober, right, I, I alluded
to it as I started out just Long

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story short, I would drink on
Fridays, right?

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And then Friday would turn
Fridays and Saturdays.

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Oh now Sunday football's on and
then Monday, Monday Night

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Football.
Then my wife was, was going to

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school and working two different
jobs.

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I was self-employed selling
houses.

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So then she was, you know, doing
her thing.

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So she was gone seven days a
week.

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So I got that well with me
thing.

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So the, the Friday night just
drinking with friends started

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turning into a habit.
And as the habit exceeded and

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the tolerance grew, then you
start drinking more and more

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beer, start drinking more and
more Jack.

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Then all of a sudden, you know,
six months into this thing, like

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anything else, just like working
out, addicts have to chase

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something.
They need something to chase.

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So you start working out and you
make it a habit that you up

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every morning at six O clock at
the gym.

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By 7:30, you're done.
By 8:30 your day goes on.

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To me, it was the same kind of
concept with drinking because it

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got to to the point where it was
just a habit.

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It was natural.
If I didn't have a beer in my

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hand, what was wrong with me?
So when I finally did stop,

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which was a major blow up thing
with my wife and I, we never

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argued, we never fought.
And I woke up the next day.

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Holy shit, something's got to
change, right?

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So I went to an, a, a meeting
because I needed to do something

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to prove to her that I was going
to stop.

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And when I went to the second a
a meeting because the first one

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wasn't the right age group, I
got a chip.

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And when I realized, oh, I get a
chip for 30 for 24 hours and I

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get a 30 day, then I get a 60
day and 90 day, so on.

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That was what drove me, believe
it or not, to stay sober because

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I didn't want to give them back
my chip.

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And every chip I achieved, I
gave that chip to my wife.

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So when I got my 24, I held it
till I got my 30 day, she got

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the 24, I held the 30 day, she
got the 30I held the 60 and so

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on.
So that to me showed me that if

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once I turned the drinking and
stopped that and turned it into

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a workout habit with the target
of getting these chips, I sailed

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through my first year.
The second year was a little bit

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harder.
As I've, as I've gone through my

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time of being sober, certain
years have been harder than

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others, but the first year was
just, it really was smooth

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standing because I just like you
said, I just changed my think.

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I changed my mindset.
I need to stop for this reason.

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I need to do it for this and I
need to fill the void with that.

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And that to me is how I survived
my first year.

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And then I've just kind of, you
know, talked along ever since.

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Yeah, makes perfect sense.
You know it's the.

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But I never thought of it the
way you just did it until we

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just had you on the show.
That seems the parallel there

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for sure.
But the thing about drug addicts

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is, it's it's the addictive
personality.

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And exactly what you said
happens, but what happens with

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00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,920
the destruction part of the
brain, which is the basal

451
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,160
ganglia, where it's our
repetition, strengthen and

452
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,160
confirms of a behavior or a
trait is that when you got on

453
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,120
set enough, enough, your
repeated behavior, which then

454
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:41,840
become a working part of the
mind was to follow the gem, get

455
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,760
your chips and that was that was
ready.

456
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,040
So once it becomes a working
part of the money, it's very

457
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,160
hard to go back and undo that.
Right, right.

458
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960
It's hard to rebel against
yourself when you make the

459
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800
decision to do something.
It's hard to rebel against that

460
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,160
decision because you consciously
made that decision, whatever it

461
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520
is.
But most people, if we we got

462
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,640
honest with I was in a a I'm not
anymore for 2025 years, talking

463
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,640
on behalf around the world.
It was amazing.

464
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,880
But most people and you sit them
down and you say, are you done?

465
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,040
They're oh, yeah, yeah, I'm
done.

466
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,280
I'm done.
We did.

467
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440
We did loads of guys in A and
are you really done?

468
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,640
Well, you know, I mean, yeah,
they always have that lurking

469
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,040
notion, like the book says, of
being asked to drink one day.

470
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,480
And while you're in that split
mindset, you will always

471
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,360
relapse.
Always.

472
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,560
Yeah, so.
That book, and I'm telling you

473
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,320
that book, 1938, when they wrote
it, 39 it came out, is the best

474
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,520
piece of literature I have ever
read.

475
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600
And I studied Carl Jung.
That should be being recovered

476
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,560
from an alcoholic or any other
addiction.

477
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520
The best book.
There's so much stuff in that

478
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,400
book that people miss so many
words that people don't know

479
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080
what it means when when he talks
about trudging, the road of

480
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,080
happy destiny of not to
trudging, you look in the in the

481
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,400
American dictionary and Trudge
says to like walking through

482
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,320
mud, struggling to walk.
Well, the big boat wasn't come

483
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,240
from America.
It came from Oxford English

484
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,880
Dictionary, because most of them
are Oxford went to Oxford

485
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,840
University and call themselves
the Oxford Group.

486
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:15,040
So when you look at Trudge in
England, it says to March on

487
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,520
triumphantly, right?
It's unbelievable when you start

488
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280
picking up, but way before it's
time.

489
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,280
I've no idea how they wrote it
knowing what they know now.

490
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:29,200
Yeah, Mike.
I guess what I would disagree

491
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,160
with and not really disagree, I
just had a different path.

492
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,480
I always felt like if I needed
somebody to help me quit, then

493
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,000
I'm not ready to quit, right?
But I think you have to be that

494
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,920
strong willed to be able to do
that too, right?

495
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040
I've looked at it a little bit
in reverse and it's no, it's no

496
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:55,960
diss on anybody else's take, But
if I need to go to a a or I need

497
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,960
to go to recovery center now I'm
addicted to being not addicted,

498
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,880
right?
Right.

499
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,520
That's why you don't hear me
talk a lot about I'm recovered

500
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040
for this long or I just chose
not to do that, right?

501
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,960
I can choose.
I'm with you, Mike, I'm with

502
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,440
you.
I can choose to have two beers.

503
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,600
Every night.
Yeah.

504
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,400
And I can enjoy those beers and
I don't need 7 more, right?

505
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,920
There you go.
I rewired my thinking.

506
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680
That's the part I agree with
everything you said about.

507
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160
It's a mindset, right?
It's in your brain.

508
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,120
You.
Have to rewire the way that you

509
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,640
live your life.
Chris chose to run.

510
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720
He chose to challenge himself
physically.

511
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,360
You know, you wouldn't believe
it, but he was overweight and

512
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,760
sick when he quit drinking.
To look at him now, you would

513
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200
never think that.
And he looks 20 years younger

514
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,560
than he did back then, right?
So that was his choice to fill

515
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,960
that void.
Yeah.

516
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960
I just think it's very important
for people to understand you

517
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,440
have to make that decision first
and foremost.

518
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,160
I can't just sit down in front
of Doctor Rob and say, help me

519
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,880
quit, right?
Because you're going to say you

520
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,640
have to want to do that first.
Yep, one, one of the one of the

521
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,160
reasons we have a 98% success
rate over 25 years with 11,000

522
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,720
patients and a money back
guarantee if you relapse.

523
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,760
That's the fact that we have an
assessment that you need to

524
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,680
pass.
And in 8075% of people they fail

525
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
the assessment because like you
said, like you have to make the

526
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,720
do you have to make your mind up
with you already.

527
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,400
I can't convince you we've
turned down millions of dollars

528
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,360
from a high profile people to
the guy doing the garbage

529
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760
because they're not ready.
We have a series of questions.

530
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200
I can't, I can't do anything
with you if you're not ready to

531
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,200
quit.
We can't help you rewire brain

532
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080
and stuff like that.
If you're not ready.

533
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240
It's only when you're ready.
You know, there's, there's a lot

534
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560
of people that can get my, my
dad was good at this.

535
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,720
He was smoked 40 cigarettes a
day back in 60s, I think, and,

536
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,400
and, and the, the cigarettes
were not by half a penny or

537
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,600
something.
He said, that's it.

538
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,480
I'm done.
Never smoked again.

539
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,240
Well, I, I, I see people all the
time doing that.

540
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,440
I did that with with.
I used to chew Copenhagen, man.

541
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,720
I chewed since I was 17 years
old.

542
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,160
My wife and son were in Oregon
visiting a friend and it was 4th

543
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,280
of July weekend and I reached
over from my chair.

544
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,000
I just got back from showing
houses and stuff and I grabbed

545
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,800
my can.
It was empty.

546
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,000
I'm like, I don't want to go to
the store.

547
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,840
I haven't chewed sense that was
it.

548
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Yeah.
That was it, you know, And then

549
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,120
some people just adamantly
struggle with stopping anything.

550
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,960
And this was something, right?
And that's my own advice.

551
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,400
Is nicotine.
For sure, right.

552
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,920
And and that's the thing,
Copenhagen was, was a, was a

553
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,800
total freaking just hand, you
know, it was a habit if anything

554
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,480
else.
Oh, you choose all the time when

555
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,600
I first met, right?
For sure.

556
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,640
And, and just to just, I don't
want to go to the store because

557
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,600
I was lazy.
I didn't want to get up and go

558
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,840
back outside because it was hot.
I'm like, I don't want to go

559
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,000
anywhere.
Just I'm done.

560
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,880
And she came home three days
later and I was a little edgy.

561
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,680
She's like, what's wrong with
you?

562
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:58,600
I said, I stopped chewing on
Saturday.

563
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,640
She just looks at me.
What?

564
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920
It's like, I didn't want to go
to the store.

565
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720
She's you.
Know I need that.

566
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Right, but that's what Mike
said.

567
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,200
It's it's it's it's you got to
be ready.

568
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,200
You, you know, you can't half
ass it because you're not going

569
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,240
to be successful.
You're going to work.

570
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,960
No, no, I'm not going to, I'm
not going to take you as a

571
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080
patient if I don't think you're
ready.

572
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,880
And, and we pull all sorts of
shit, you know, we, we often get

573
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,880
because of who we are parents
coming in with kids, little

574
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,120
Johnny's at school, you know, he
needs to come and he's taking

575
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,560
too much of this and too much of
that.

576
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,520
And, and we assess him, we bring
him in and we sit him down.

577
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,480
And if he sounds uninterested, I
will say to him, we have some.

578
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520
I've got some Percocet leftover
from another patient.

579
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Let's take one each today.
Let's start Monday.

580
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,800
It's Friday now.
We'll start a scratch.

581
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,000
You ready?
Yeah.

582
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,840
I get up, walk out into the
waiting room.

583
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,080
I say to his parents, he's not
ready.

584
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,040
I'm sorry.
Yeah.

585
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,680
And he's kicking off.
How dare I Don't give a shit.

586
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,520
You're not ready.
I don't.

587
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,880
I can't do this man.
Yep.

588
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,160
So is that what it is?
Is basically a visual assessment

589
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,320
or I'm sure you have a series of
questions, but you also are

590
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,320
visually watching how their body
language is and what they're

591
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,120
saying and.
Yeah, it's so 19 something

592
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,880
percent of communication is it's
non verbal.

593
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600
So with my PhD in behavioral
science, that's where it picks

594
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,520
up.
I could tell you stuff you're

595
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,480
thinking about before you're
even thinking it because the

596
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,320
body specific experience
example, the body tells us if

597
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,720
you, if you know what you're
looking at way before the voice

598
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,640
will of what I've got your
thinking just by movement.

599
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,520
My my professor sent me to the
zoo for a year to study

600
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320
primates.
I hated that man.

601
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,360
It was pouring down.
It was snowing and as needed,

602
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,600
it's closed.
But he has some freaking friend

603
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,640
in there.
He used to let me and that every

604
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,360
day, man, he used to come a
couple of times.

605
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Oh, you're you're here.
Yeah, I'm here.

606
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,560
He's fucking start.
I'm here.

607
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Good.
Good for you.

608
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,000
All right.
And you speak like this.

609
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Good for you, Kelly.
Oh, this is Kelly.

610
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,800
Just just carry on now.
And he walk off and I'm like,

611
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,360
this guy is insane but Oh my
God, how you can?

612
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Talk like Ozzy Osbourne.
Yes, yes.

613
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,440
That's awesome.
Yeah.

614
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Yeah, that's awesome.
All right, so we're on.

615
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360
We're on TV and radio.
Do we have a radio show or is

616
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,800
this just kind of like what you
do with us?

617
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240
You're coming on, you kind of
share and what you do and.

618
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Don't have a podcast.
I used to have a radio show in

619
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,680
Dallas called Celebrity.
I can't.

620
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,520
I was sober celebrities and we
used to interview people and

621
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,360
stuff but not been on.
I just go on podcast now and the

622
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,560
nice thing is, is a special in
podcasts have only been going

623
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,600
for a couple of months.
They'll ask me first of all,

624
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360
have I been on a podcast?
And I love it when people ask me

625
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,400
that.
But yeah, I done thousands and

626
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,360
thousands and thousands.
But this is how we do it.

627
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,280
We turn down 30 podcasts a month
of clowns that just want me on

628
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360
there for for ratings.
But what Courtney does, he's

629
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560
very clever.
She goes out and we don't care

630
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,560
if you've got one viewer or a
million, she goes out and she

631
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,840
finds people that are changing
the world and then we'll humbly

632
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160
approach you and she does all
the back end.

633
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640
And all I get last night was my
BAE saying, hey, you're on with

634
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,920
Mike and Kristen or I'm like
brilliant.

635
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
And we don't take questions and
nothing like that has to be

636
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440
authentic, you know?
Right, which is why we, which is

637
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880
why we do what we do because we
want it to be authentic, because

638
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,480
we want the real people
interviews.

639
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Like I said, when I was on
radio, I used to get so much

640
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,880
slack because I didn't do
interviews.

641
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,440
I, I had, I had five segments in
my show and everything was

642
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680
conversational and my producers
would give me shit.

643
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Dude, you, dude, you stop.
You can't be a feature, blah,

644
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,800
blah, blah.
I guess I can't.

645
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,680
It's human interest, even though
it's real estate centric.

646
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,520
You have a home inspector, he's
a human.

647
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,400
You have a lender who's a human.
You have a home buyer who's a

648
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,000
human.
These people have value that is

649
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,280
just not industry related.
And they didn't understand that.

650
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560
But the conversations were so
much better.

651
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Doctor Kelly.
It was, it was they flow so much

652
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,320
more.
People love listening to it.

653
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,600
They it just it was a better
approach to radio than just

654
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,720
saying So, Doctor Kelly, how
long have you been a P HD-26?

655
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Years.
That's great.

656
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,040
What's your specialty?
Oh, this.

657
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400
It's boring, man.
It's like, give me a break.

658
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,920
You.
Just like you said, you know,

659
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
people like authentic.
And the thing that I appreciate

660
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,120
it in reverse about Courtney is
I knew that she spent some time

661
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,480
listening to it because she
cited specific examples that

662
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,880
were deep in podcasts that only
she could have known if she'd

663
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360
listened to it, right?
That's her job, you know.

664
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Oh, that bodybuilding day.
Well, I want you to that was you

665
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,400
very good at it.
Yeah, I won seven titles back

666
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,040
home.
Yeah, I was 17.

667
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,760
I just, I just won the drug
free.

668
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040
Drug free.
I just won the under 20 ones.

669
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Yeah.
Again though, Chris and Mike,

670
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560
you both get this and I hope the
viewers at home will.

671
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
I have, we have them brains.
Yeah, I'm either going to do

672
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
something or I'm not.
I'm not going to.

673
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200
I've never played basketball.
So when my friend Ben, do you

674
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,400
want to come playback?
No.

675
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Why?
Never played it?

676
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Well, you know, I'll never rock
the world with it, so I'm not

677
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920
doing it.
I I do the things that I, when I

678
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,520
play the Abbey Road for about a
year, you know, when I created

679
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,080
companies, when I, you know, all
these stuff that I want to do is

680
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,040
going to happen because of the
brain is trained to succeed.

681
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520
So I'm not play basketball.
What, for fun?

682
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,600
No, it's not over till you win.
Nobody knows the second person

683
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,080
on the moon or this, the second
guy that broke the four minute

684
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080
mile.
Nobody knows him, but everyone

685
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
knows Bannister.
The first guy that did it.

686
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
I I want to be Roger Bannister
every single time.

687
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
You keep blowing by these
brilliant points that are.

688
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Going to just.
Blow by people.

689
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,360
One of the most important things
that you just said is be careful

690
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,040
how you invest your time.
People waste so much of their

691
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680
life doing things that they
don't have to do.

692
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,520
They choose to do it for
whatever reason.

693
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Sit in front of the TV for 8
hours a day or six hours a day.

694
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Think about what you could have
done right.

695
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,400
Don't spend your time doing
things that you're not good at,

696
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,280
and don't waste it doing things
that you could be improving your

697
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
financial well-being, health,
well-being.

698
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Yeah, it's so true.
And doing things for other

699
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,600
people, like one of my biggest
sayings is yes or no is a

700
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,520
falling off answer because this
is what I used to be like.

701
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,320
Hey, Rob, you come into the the
party and no, no.

702
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,840
And you see my auntie's uncle's
dog like he's sick.

703
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,560
So.
So I shut up.

704
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,760
No, maybe a thank you, but no.
And it's so it's so relieved.

705
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,120
And they go, oh, OK, I don't
need to explain myself.

706
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,400
I got nothing to prove to any
beauty or anything.

707
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640
You know, I, I don't, I just, I
love what you said, Chris.

708
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,280
It yeah.
It's because I'm older.

709
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,560
I don't give a shit anyway.
I used to.

710
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840
I used to sit behind and look at
all the comments and who's they

711
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,120
think he is and I'd have a bad
day and fuck you, I'll tell you

712
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200
who I am.
I'm the guy with $100 million in

713
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,960
the fucking bank.
What the hell are you doing sat

714
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,160
at home in your parents bedroom
because your fucking wife's

715
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,280
throwing you out, the kids don't
want to see you, and you want to

716
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,960
comment on what I'm doing?
Yeah, I don't think so.

717
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,199
Yeah, yeah.
See, that's the, that's the fun

718
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,560
thing.
We had somebody keyboard warrior

719
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
in one of our posts, one of our
our guests, I don't figure what

720
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040
it was, but you know, I just
chimed in.

721
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,199
Hey, thanks for watching.
Love it.

722
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,480
We just found guys over the
years.

723
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,719
This is what I found.
Nobody but nobody will negative

724
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,679
comment on your stuff that's
doing as good as you are better.

725
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,760
Nobody.
They always the wannabes that

726
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,320
are going to come in and God
bless them.

727
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,280
Man, I love Katt Williams, you
should be grateful.

728
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,840
You've got haters.
You know, if you got hate, you

729
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,760
don't like to send them my way.
I got loads of room for haters.

730
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320
We looked at it, Doctor Rob, as
a sign of we're finally making

731
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080
it right because we're doing
something that is annoying

732
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,679
people's spirits.
You know?

733
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,320
That's the way I look at it.
And I'm so proud of Chris and

734
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,600
myself because we just go on
there and say, hey, thanks for

735
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,120
watching.
We really appreciate it, you

736
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,840
know.
Yep.

737
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Yeah, yes.
Well, you know they say when

738
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,400
truth walks in, bullshit walks
out.

739
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Right.
Is this the bread you get?

740
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Is this the bread you import?
How's the imported bread?

741
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Yeah, and it's also tasty.
Beautiful.

742
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,600
Big, thick chunks.
It's bright white when you take

743
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,440
it out.
Ours is yellow over here.

744
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,320
But yeah, man, I love that.
Right on.

745
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,880
I love that bread.
And that's the bread Fox.

746
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,240
One of my second cotton as I
have.

747
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,240
So what is it?
Give us a give us a wood Crick

748
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,480
synopsis of what the breath box
is because I know I saw it on

749
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600
your website, but what's, what's
the breath box all about?

750
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Basically the breath box is
reprogramming pathways,

751
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,680
reprogramming thought patterns,
reprogramming behavior using

752
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,920
subliminal messaging, breath
work and guided guided

753
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
narrative.
Over the top.

754
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,560
It's trying.
It changes structures of the

755
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,200
brain and we do it online or we
do it in person.

756
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,400
I would be super interested in
that.

757
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,400
It will change your life.
I I every movie star that's been

758
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,080
through any trouble at all,
they've gone through breath

759
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600
mocks really because it changes
you as a person.

760
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,280
Whether you want to be the best
podcaster or the best dad, it

761
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,080
doesn't make it's not just for
addiction.

762
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,440
You've actual fact, 1% of the
work I do right now is probably

763
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,800
addiction and alcoholism.
The rest is power management and

764
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,720
getting people healthy and true
finding their identity.

765
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:30,080
But this software and I invite
you both to come and try a free

766
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,080
session online, but get in with
Courtney and I'm telling you now

767
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,760
when you this is, this is what
people do guys, OK, whether

768
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,480
they're 15 or night.
We had a 91 year old woman here

769
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,640
going through it and this is
what they do.

770
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:48,760
The fuck was that?
We go right.

771
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Oh my God, I feel amazing.
We go right.

772
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,360
Oh, there's the Benny.
There's the Bentley.

773
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,840
Yeah, there's the Bentley.
Beautiful.

774
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

775
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,760
But is that the bougie?
Is that the bougie Mercedes?

776
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,400
That's what I call them.
What they the great in?

777
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
The garage, Yeah.
Oh, that's, no, that's the in

778
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,480
the garage.
In the garage.

779
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,440
In the garage is the Defender by
Range Rover, the new Defender,

780
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,600
and that's a Bentley Speed.
That's oh God, that was crazy.

781
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,080
It's a nice.
Car.

782
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,360
There's a racing car in in.
Oh, I don't doubt that.

783
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,520
It's a Bentley, man.
Very manly.

784
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,760
Yeah, that's just.
A payment Hey, the payments are

785
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,280
not very manly.
I'm telling you I wish I had a

786
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Bentley.
So they all say as a just just

787
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,800
pay 6 grand a month.
But for you know for the lease

788
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,800
or the freaking you'll be good.
You can have one easy.

789
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Yeah, there's the guns.
Oh man, I love these.

790
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Yeah, This is why Jesus from
your Facebook page, man.

791
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Huge.
People always ask him that too.

792
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Where are you?
Getting this, bro yeah, it's

793
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,800
it's your Facebook page.
Whoops.

794
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,880
But see, look at but see here's
the cool thing about about

795
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,520
photos.
OK, this guy was this guy.

796
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Yeah, that is that that right
there is that's that's

797
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,960
summarizes who you are.
You went from this, which

798
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,800
anybody who's ever been an
addict on any type of level can

799
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,600
look at that picture like I
looked when I flipped the thing.

800
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,680
I got chills because knowing
this is you now, I didn't know

801
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,240
you then, but now where you're
at now in your life.

802
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:22,560
That's an amazing turn around,
man.

803
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
And that's why we like people
like you on our show, because

804
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,320
it's life resumes storytelling,
it's conversation.

805
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,320
If if this guy can turn into
that guy flying in a helicopter,

806
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,960
what over Manhattan you can do?
Why can't you?

807
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,880
Why can't you?
You know what about?

808
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,680
And the answer is he can.
The answer is you can.

809
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,800
Everybody, guys, everybody can
do this.

810
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,360
Guys at home listening,
everybody, unless you've got

811
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,760
severe brain damage, everybody
can do this.

812
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,080
This is not, this is not set
aside for the elite.

813
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Get rid of the trauma.
Get rid of the shit that's

814
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,480
holding you back.
Find out who you are.

815
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,320
You can do anything and and stop
letting people tell you you

816
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,160
can't, man, I love it.
You can't do that.

817
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,600
That's kind of crazy.
Without without giving up too

818
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,680
many of your secrets.
Because, you know, we don't.

819
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,240
Want people to.
Give up that time.

820
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,600
We want people to come to you.
Yeah.

821
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,960
If I had gotten up that morning
and wanted to live and I found

822
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
myself standing in front of you
and I passed my your assessment

823
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,760
because believe me, I would
have.

824
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,760
I was.
I knew I was going to die,

825
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,240
right?
I weighed 128 lbs.

826
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:30,760
What do you do differently than
if I had just walked in?

827
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,680
Any other treatment center in
America who follows basically

828
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,680
the same protocols?
So we don't believe in treatment

829
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,760
senses.
They don't like us and we don't

830
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,760
like them apart from a handful
we work with.

831
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,040
It's brilliant.
We could call any treatment

832
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,840
center up right now, live on air
and we can say I'm an alcoholic

833
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,440
and suffering.
Do you know what the first

834
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,480
question they're going to ask
you?

835
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,320
Do you have insurance?
So in any way we can all get, if

836
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,520
we're having shows, they're
going to take us.

837
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,720
It's no wonder the 2 and 3%
success rate.

838
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,440
It's like we don't ask that and
we don't concentrate on the

839
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,240
alcohol or the drug.
We don't concentrate on that.

840
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,360
It's not the problem.
The problem was me.

841
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,640
The problem was always me, the
way I was wired.

842
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,520
I mean, the alcoholic gene is
real.

843
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,800
The hypothalamus, which is part
of the brain, it's our survival,

844
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
part of the brain.
It tells human beings.

845
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,440
To eat food, drink water to
survive.

846
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,600
We don't have to think about it.
That's what happens from birth

847
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,720
when babies crying got the hand
down the mouth, they're hungry,

848
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:33,080
they know they have to eat.
The hypothalamus with Alcoholics

849
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,720
are different to any other
addiction.

850
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:39,840
And This is why during the
alcohol Alcoholics career, which

851
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,520
it was a career for me, the
hypothalamus hijacks the brain

852
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,400
and tells the Alcoholics to
drink alcohol only to survive.

853
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120
That's where I can go days or
weeks without food or water

854
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,160
because my primary purpose was
while I'm drinking 1 bottle

855
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,360
where's the other bottle coming
from and I'm panicking if I

856
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,120
don't get the other one.
That's the difference.

857
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,800
Basil ganglia is different and
the amygda is different.

858
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,400
It's.
Crazy you say that because you

859
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,400
have the same.
I've known so many.

860
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,520
I'm sorry to interrupt you but I
just had like a goosebumps go up

861
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480
all over because I've known so
many Alcoholics and they all

862
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,920
have one thing in common.
They don't have any interest in

863
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,320
food.
Oh, because we don't need it

864
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,560
that the bodies, the
hypothalamus is not saying hey,

865
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
let's eat food to survive.
It's saying let's drink alcohol.

866
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,440
So.
We're you said it.

867
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,880
Hijacks the brain.
Yeah.

868
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,760
And that's why everything else
go bye bye cared when they took

869
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
my 3 year old off me She was
crying.

870
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,920
The police were there taking
I've been I've been drunk for

871
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,960
two days, not fed, not changed
diapers.

872
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,760
They, they took him out.
My it was horrible.

873
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Do you think for a second that
if I had a choice over this shit

874
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,920
I would have done that?
The answer is no.

875
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
When I stabbed my wife 3 * 1
night because she won't let me

876
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,880
finish my bottle of vodka.
That's insanity.

877
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,200
That's because the choice
whether we drink or not is taken

878
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,280
away because of the hypothalamus
and the basal ganglia.

879
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
And see, here's the cool.
Here's one.

880
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,160
It's not a cool thing.
But here's one thing Mike and I

881
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,000
have discussed on the show over
over 180 plus episodes.

882
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,400
The amount of drive and focus
that an addict has when I wake

883
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,080
up in the morning knowing they
have to get their high or get

884
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,280
their fix.
If they would just take 10% of

885
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,600
that as a sober person, the
successfulness of that

886
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,880
individual would be
unsurmountable because they'll

887
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,400
do anything and everything
possible to get their meth, to

888
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,680
get their heroin, to get their
bottle of vodka, to get whatever

889
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,040
drug and whatever it is they're
chasing.

890
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,560
They will stop at nothing to
achieve that that moment of

891
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,160
high, regardless of what it is.
Yet then, like you're talking

892
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,440
about people come to you and I
want to I, I, you why?

893
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Why aren't you like the, the
number one realtor in Arizona,

894
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,400
Chris?
Well, you know, I don't know.

895
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200
And like, well, there's your
problem right there.

896
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
This is why because you don't
have the right mindset.

897
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Let me fix your mindset.
So let me fix your mindset

898
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,800
because then you will be that
that mind.

899
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,000
It's mind boggling to me.
So how you just spun it with the

900
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,880
brain and how it's all
functioning and, and how the

901
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,520
brain does what it does it it,
it's always blown Mike and I's

902
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,080
mind that that an addict will do
absolutely anything in their

903
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,280
power.
Anything I remember their.

904
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Soul.
We.

905
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Tested we had we.
Tested that theory.

906
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
We asked 10 or 15 friends around
us.

907
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,640
I can't use in Dallas.
I can't remember when you're

908
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,280
going to relapse.
They're currently relapses.

909
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,160
What they've been sold for at
least a month.

910
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,480
If you're going to relapse, and
we hope you don't, can you call

911
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,880
us and we'll pick you up within
1015 minutes?

912
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,280
Well, wire to head and wire to
the part, if that's OK, to the

913
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,880
chest and we want to monitor the
whole situation.

914
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,760
We'll take you to the dealer or
liquor store.

915
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,080
You go and do your stuff, come
out, we'll drive you back home

916
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,680
and drop you off.
Are you up for it?

917
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,480
And all ten said yes, we're up
for it.

918
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,040
Every single person that we
picked up took there, took him

919
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,200
back home, you know, and the
most thing, toxic cake in part

920
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,400
of that.
Was the drive by the liquor

921
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,240
store?
Oh.

922
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Really, the drive to the the
dealer holding the bottle before

923
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,240
it's been opened or paid for it
was off the frigging chance

924
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,880
because that.
That gives me goosebumps too

925
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,280
because.
I and when they get in the car,

926
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,360
it's like, hey rock, come on,
this is awesome man.

927
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Thank you so much.
They're there because when we

928
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,800
take the alcohol or drug, we're
done.

929
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,920
Like if you're lucky, you'll
last 10 minutes knowing what's

930
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,280
what.
After 10 minutes I, I'm

931
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,840
oblivious.
I don't, I don't know what I'm

932
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,160
doing.
So the drive to.

933
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,200
The Ritalin rush of going there
and holding it while you're

934
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,320
going back to wherever you're
going to.

935
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,640
And that's why these parts of
the brain, it's the thrill of

936
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,440
the.
Chase, it's the Chase.

937
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,480
It's that's what I got.
Like like, like I had somebody

938
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,760
in my family that was dicta
heroin and at at the height of

939
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,720
their heroin addiction, it
wasn't the drug itself.

940
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,440
It was getting the needle and
piercing the vein, knowing

941
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,800
whether they're going to live or
die.

942
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,240
That was what they were chasing.
They no longer chase the high,

943
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:55,000
they chase the thrill of the
needle.

944
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,720
That's.
The real life example of what he

945
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:00,520
just said for sure, right 100.
Percent I hated alcohol, I hated

946
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680
the taste of it.
I hated what he did to me.

947
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,840
Me too.
I hated all the.

948
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Drugs I was doing too for sure.
Yeah, we need that stuff.

949
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,840
And that's the difference
between someone who's a a heavy

950
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,400
drinker or somebody who abuses
alcohol.

951
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,720
You can stop, man.
Abusers coming.

952
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,440
Well, listen, how old are you,
42?

953
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,800
Fucking stop.
Knob head, that's all you got to

954
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,320
do.
Stop it.

955
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Behave.
You're 42 years old, you're not

956
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,360
a kid anymore.
Then guys stop.

957
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,840
But then there's the real deals
that come here that can't stop.

958
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,120
And kids and wives and
everything go by the by because

959
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,520
their brain is telling them Once
we get clean and sober, once we

960
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,240
build identity, the travelling,
the child trauma, the rerouting

961
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:43,200
of brain and the body and
everything's been done well, we

962
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,680
are geniuses.
And that's why we build empires

963
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,840
with people.
We don't build fucking

964
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,160
businesses.
Get a website and a credit card,

965
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,920
$20, you've got a business.
Let's build some empires.

966
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,640
And most of all the people
that's left us that stayed in

967
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,760
touch with us, I've signed that
contract for that $1,000,000

968
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,080
movement.
I've signed the contract for

969
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,320
this.
They've started a business.

970
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,080
They, most of them call us up
after two or three years and go,

971
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,080
hey, do you know what, Doctor
Rob?

972
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,680
You've saved my life, man.
I go, why I started that

973
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,840
business.
Oh, how's that business going?

974
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,360
We're taking $3.2 million a year
and I got married.

975
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,200
You got married?
Yeah, I got 3 beautiful

976
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,600
daughters.
You've got kids, man.

977
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,760
That's the shit I do it for.
I don't get involved with the

978
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,800
money.
I don't get involved.

979
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,560
And they take care of that.
When somebody calls me up and

980
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,560
says that to me or someone spots
me somewhere.

981
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,120
The commodity changed my life.
And I go, why?

982
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,040
What happened?
And and they tell me a story

983
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,440
like that.
Paid in full.

984
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Amen.
All right.

985
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,400
I love that I want to build an
empire with Doctor Rob, I'm just

986
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,640
saying.
Build an empire, man.

987
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Yeah.
Don't let businesses.

988
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,120
I'm excited.
I've called it.

989
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,160
So there's a guy that owns a
treatment centre that would

990
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,760
become best friends and we're
just creating this other

991
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,160
treatment centre model.
And I told him blatantly in two

992
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,080
years time you'll have $10
million in the bank.

993
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520
And he's come over and he spent
some time with his and about 3

994
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,400
days ago he called me up and
said, you know Rob, I believe

995
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400
you.
Well, if you don't believe you

996
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,280
can, you're not going to do it
right if you believe you can.

997
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,400
So when you get up, and I think
it was Winston Church, if you

998
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,680
Churchill that said if you get
up thinking of a good day, you

999
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,280
will if you get a bad day,
you're right both ways.

1000
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520
So you decide in the morning
when the subconscious brain

1001
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,440
wakes up in the morning from
lack of oxygen, you get to

1002
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,640
change that and and hit the
conscious brain.

1003
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,040
You get to program the mind that
programs the brain, hence mind

1004
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,360
over matter, to program the
brain to have a day beyond your

1005
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,920
wildest dreams.
Every single day.

1006
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,440
We have today we don't have
tomorrow.

1007
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,280
Oh yes, we have today.
What are you going to do today

1008
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,560
that changes the world is what I
asked.

1009
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Everybody are coming.
Well, what you going to do?

1010
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Well, I can't change the world
really.

1011
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Do this tomorrow guys.
Next time you're in a built up

1012
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,440
area of people, look at somebody
walking towards you with nice

1013
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,680
sneakers and I want you to say 2
words to him.

1014
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,840
Guys, they goes to what?
2 words in them?

1015
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,360
Nice sneakers, what else?
That's it.

1016
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,280
And how they go, hey nice
sneakers.

1017
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,640
The guy goes, oh, thank you,
man.

1018
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,200
And as we turn around and watch
him walk away, he's locking down

1019
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
his sneakers two or three times.
You've just changed his world,

1020
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,440
therefore changed the whole
world.

1021
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,280
But he goes on to the wife and
now he's in a good mood.

1022
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Then the mother-in-law calls and
you get a gist.

1023
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,680
That's the ripple effect we talk
about that you will never know.

1024
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,320
But don't tell me guys, you
can't change the world.

1025
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,280
It's not true.
That's a lie.

1026
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,800
A biggest lie in the world is
that you can't make a

1027
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,040
difference.
I'm living proof.

1028
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,400
I was a super negative person
and I just started doing the

1029
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,680
opposite of everything that I
had been doing up to that point,

1030
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
right?
I made it a point to be nice to

1031
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,160
people even when they
disrespected me right?

1032
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,520
I thought that's the the only
person that's getting hurt is me

1033
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,520
when I get offended or upset.
I heard someone say one time and

1034
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,360
you'll appreciate this as a
psychologist.

1035
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,560
If you're easily offended, you
are also easily easily

1036
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,280
manipulated.
Don't ever forget that, right?

1037
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,440
If you can't control your
emotions enough to not be

1038
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,160
offended, you are also easily
manipulated, whether you want to

1039
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
believe it or not.
And you can't offend me without

1040
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600
you can't offend me without me
putting with giving you

1041
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,240
permission to do that.
That's the thing nobody knows is

1042
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,680
you might say something nasty,
but I need to accept that in my

1043
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
heart as being offensive.
I don't anymore.

1044
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,080
I ain't giving out hate anymore.
I'm I'm giving out gratitude.

1045
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160
I'm giving out that time.
I'm giving out money.

1046
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,640
I'm giving out everything about
me.

1047
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,120
So you can say what you want,
but I don't accept it.

1048
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,600
That's your belief of me based
on jealousy.

1049
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Because there's two kinds of
people in this world, guys.

1050
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,680
See, I love making this show.
I've.

1051
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Done this show and the guys that
want to be you.

1052
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,120
That's it.
You see, I've, I've taken a

1053
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,960
thing this year where I'm
learning to be non reactionary.

1054
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,160
So I don't react to things.
I just let them Stew.

1055
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,720
I just let them sit.
I had one incident, I had one's

1056
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,840
innocent in December where I
totally reacted the wrong way

1057
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,720
with my daughter.
Shit hit the fan.

1058
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,560
And so my wife took a while to
kind of believe that.

1059
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,320
And I've had moments, right?
I'm not flawless, right?

1060
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,080
I've had probably two or three
more.

1061
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,280
Moments.
Quick reaction, but on a whole

1062
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,560
from where it was years and
years and years because that's

1063
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,400
who I am.
I'm always reactionary guy.

1064
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,760
So I've actually found myself
like I've enjoyed life this much

1065
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440
more this year because I'm not
reactionary, because I'm not

1066
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,800
allowing the stupid shit bother
me.

1067
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,880
And him and I will have private
conversations about these

1068
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,320
accomplishments just to not,
it's not a bragging thing.

1069
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680
If people would look at it on
the outside looking in, they

1070
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,760
tell look at those guys really
patting themselves on the back.

1071
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,560
It's that we used to be
different people, right?

1072
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,400
And we used to deal with it
differently.

1073
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,000
So when we had these little
moments where we're like, hey,

1074
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
man, this happened today, and
here's how I dealt with it.

1075
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,360
And he'll say the same thing.
We just walk away, smile.

1076
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,960
It's like, yeah, we're moving on
and becoming.

1077
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,160
You're elevating, right?
Because they can't do that, then

1078
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,320
they're going to take a cheap
shot.

1079
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,520
And that's all they odd cheap
shots.

1080
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,600
It's it's the, the world and
people of of see, everyone's

1081
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,560
jealous about what I have, but
nobody's jealous about how I got

1082
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,760
here.
Thank you.

1083
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160
That's so brilliant.
It's true.

1084
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,760
Look at him and he's bigger.
He's like he's paid 300 grand

1085
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,960
for like look at his big million
dollar.

1086
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Yeah, you want to come and also
look at me when I'm on the floor

1087
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520
bleeding to death.
Do you want to look at me when

1088
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,160
my fucking kids looked at me in
the eyes at the ages one and

1089
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,480
three and said Daddy, Daddy
don't drink, you know, do you

1090
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,240
want do you want to come back?
But no, you don't.

1091
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,760
You just want to judge what I'm
doing now and I don't give a

1092
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,920
shit.
You waste.

1093
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,320
You're wasting your breath, man.
I don't care.

1094
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,360
Yeah.
And I think again, Chris, going

1095
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,920
back to that, it's it's largely
like, you know, my age.

1096
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,640
It's like you get to that age
and you go.

1097
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,080
All these years, I've been
worried about what you thought

1098
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,360
about me because everybody needs
to be loved, especially when

1099
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,960
we've been through addiction and
alcoholism.

1100
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,840
We want to be accepted.
It's like, I have enough.

1101
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,440
What?
You have Doctor Rob, you have to

1102
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,760
start right Where right where
the picture is on the screen,

1103
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,720
right?
Now, yeah, and I and I had to do

1104
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,280
that, by the way.
Yeah, from that to that.

1105
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,880
But I just want people to
understand when he's saying I

1106
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,240
don't give a shit what you
think.

1107
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,120
That's why.
Because it took from that point

1108
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,280
how many 10s of thousands of
hours of hard mental work and

1109
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,680
physical pain to get to what you
have in your driveway that is a

1110
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,560
symbol to you that you took care
of the people that you needed to

1111
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,640
that loved you, right?
That's how I look at it.

1112
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,800
I need to be this person to be
of benefit to the people that

1113
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
need me.
So and whether you believe in

1114
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,960
God, Uncle Jimmy universe,
whatever it is, you get paid

1115
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,720
back for that shit because I
when they took him off me ages

1116
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,240
one and three, my daughter said
three things Daddy, daddy,

1117
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,240
please don't go and then the
police down the path.

1118
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,440
He said daddy, daddy, last thing
he said the book says Daddy,

1119
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,480
Daddy, please stop drinking 30
years later, which is 4 years

1120
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,320
ago.
I'm laying there now.

1121
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,480
I'm a conscious Dr., which means
that people pay a lot of money

1122
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,040
for me, which means that if my
phone buzzes in the middle of

1123
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,480
the night, I've got to get to
the FL within 45 minutes.

1124
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,040
That's the case.
But I got a text.

1125
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,960
I looked at it.
It was my daughter after 30

1126
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,600
years.
And you know how the text

1127
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,680
started.
Hey, Dad.

1128
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
She called me Dad.
She went on to tell me that

1129
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,680
she's seen me on TV.
She don't believe it's about

1130
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,200
time with this, it's not going
to blah blah blah.

1131
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000
Can you come over And within
like an hour and a half we're on

1132
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,920
a plane flying back to England.
We get over there stay in a

1133
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,680
hotel overnight Me and my wife
walk towards a house.

1134
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,320
I'm crying, I'm sobbing, I'm
shaking.

1135
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
I said to Janet I can't do this
I can't do this all.

1136
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,080
I let down as we get to the door
and I was just about to turn

1137
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,600
away.
I said Janet I can't do it.

1138
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,480
And and Charlie and my daughter
open the door and we hugged and

1139
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,040
we cried felt like an hour.
Janet said it was a minute and

1140
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,320
then she took me by my hand and
she walked me into a living room

1141
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,800
and she handed me my 3 month old
granddaughter.

1142
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,280
That's why everything comes
back.

1143
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,640
For those people that take care
of other people, that always

1144
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,600
comes back.
She's my lead therapist in my

1145
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Manchester Obvious now.
My youngest daughter going

1146
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,160
contact me about four months
ago.

1147
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,880
Well, you went, Doctor Rob.
You're the first person to make

1148
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,160
me cry on the pocket.
Right.

1149
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,360
It's just, I mean, right there I
was just like, I tell you what,

1150
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,360
God, if you want to take me now,
it's fine.

1151
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,320
But that daughter, that
granddaughter, holding her in my

1152
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,920
arms, in that, it's like all the
world went, Yeah.

1153
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,120
And I was holding her.
And I'm so grateful, you know?

1154
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,960
And I whispered in my breath,
God, if you, if you don't me

1155
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,080
now, I'm good.
I've had that.

1156
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,240
He doesn't get any better than
this.

1157
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,080
You give me, you give me 20
minutes to hold my

1158
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,960
granddaughter.
It doesn't get any better than

1159
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,640
this.
And I also kept hearing back.

1160
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440
Oh, no, no, no.
We're just starting.

1161
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,640
These are the blessings that
you're going to get.

1162
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,160
These are the things that are
going to come back to you to

1163
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,440
keep what you're doing, keep
what you're doing.

1164
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,680
And you know, I speak to her
most days and and my daughter, I

1165
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
speak to her every day because
we share patience and I go over

1166
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,600
there and you know, it's just
that's why I don't give a shit.

1167
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,200
It's like I have enough now,
everything.

1168
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,720
I just didn't know that you
were.

1169
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,880
I didn't know you were separated
for that long.

1170
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,320
I thought that when you, you
know, got your shit together, so

1171
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,080
to speak, you got your kids
back.

1172
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,400
I didn't, Man, that just really
struck me.

1173
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,800
Yeah, I think of that guy on the
couch.

1174
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,400
I was that guy on the couch.
But, you know, I didn't have any

1175
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,880
kids.
So I that's just a whole nother

1176
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,640
level of you were estranged from
her for 30 years. 30 years,

1177
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,360
yeah.
So when I got over there, I

1178
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,000
didn't really know what I was
going to face.

1179
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,960
But you know, you got to do what
you got to do, man.

1180
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:26,440
And my life is full.
So our offices right now with

1181
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,800
breath box and my, and my deal
here is a sliding scale.

1182
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,400
We give 25% of the company's
profits and we're multi

1183
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,800
$1,000,000 businesses.
So there's a, there's a lot of

1184
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,320
money they're going back out in
communities in America and in

1185
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,160
England we have a nonprofit that
does a lot of money and me and

1186
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:50,880
my wife stick $150,000 into from
our own bank account back into

1187
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,120
the communities.
Now we had a great one the other

1188
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,760
day because a guy approached us
and his wife had not only thrown

1189
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,680
him out, but she'd claimed
custody of the children and he

1190
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,560
was fighting to, to see if they
were going to court.

1191
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,600
He was fighting for one day a
week to see them.

1192
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,960
So we got involved.
We worked within pro bono for

1193
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,640
about 3 months and then we paid
for his legal fees.

1194
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,120
We paid 12 months on a nice
apartment.

1195
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,960
We furnished it.
We, we, we got in a suit for the

1196
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600
for the judge to see.
We went and spoke on behalf.

1197
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,440
He gets to see his children
twice a week right now and he

1198
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,200
has an amazing relationship with
his children.

1199
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,240
That's the shit that we do.
That's awesome.

1200
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,440
People don't see that stuff.
We do, but that's the stuff I'm

1201
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,200
stopping at every corner and
giving people money just because

1202
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,640
it's not my money.
The fuck is it worse back home

1203
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,440
at the safe once he's going to
not do anything there.

1204
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,840
But I pulled up.
I pulled up the other day and

1205
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,200
I'm in the car with a friend and
I come up to the lights and this

1206
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,840
guy comes up with a bucket and I
stick $20 and God bless you,

1207
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,600
man, bless you.
He's like, yeah, no problems,

1208
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,320
man.
And my friend says, you know

1209
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,360
he's going to do with that,
don't you?

1210
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,480
And I said, I hope he's going to
fucking buy alcohol and drugs

1211
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,200
because that's what I did when I
was homeless.

1212
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,080
What you do with the money that
I bless you with, it's got

1213
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,160
nothing to do with you.
Nothing.

1214
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,920
You know, I'll give you money,
but there's conditions on it.

1215
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,240
You can't buy alcohol.
Give me.

1216
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,520
AI love what you said right
there, Doctor Rob.

1217
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,560
My Grammy taught me that a long
time ago and it's really helped

1218
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,880
me in life, she said.
She said it like this.

1219
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,040
What other people think about
you, Michael, is really none of

1220
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,480
your business, all right?
Yeah.

1221
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,800
And if you really understand
what that means, it's it really

1222
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,600
helps you in your life.
The other thing she taught me

1223
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,280
was forgiveness is for the other
person, not or.

1224
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Forgiveness is for you, not the
other person and.

1225
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,480
That's why then amends come in,
you know, when people, well,

1226
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,720
I've got to go make amends.
What if they do this?

1227
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,840
It's not for them, it's for you.
It's.

1228
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,880
Like what?
It's for you.

1229
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,920
You have to make the effort as a
changed person.

1230
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,720
So when when we take people
through the program and, and we

1231
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,200
changed our pathways, we clear
all the things that we do and

1232
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,840
the mind, which is energy
connects with another energy

1233
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,960
outside which it always does,
your DNA changes.

1234
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,120
That's our difference between
any what anybody else does out

1235
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,280
there.
Yeah, it's yeah, yeah.

1236
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:06,840
Who guarantees?
Forgiveness.

1237
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,000
Forgiveness is a hard thing too,
because you have to look at it

1238
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,320
too.
For you're, you're forgiving

1239
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,040
somebody who, who, who
monumentally wronged you in your

1240
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,480
eyes.
So for you as an individual,

1241
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,280
like for me to forgive my
monster of a mother would be a

1242
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,400
major step in my life.
And I'm not there to do that yet

1243
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,000
because she, she's just an evil,
evil woman.

1244
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,800
But if I did this, I, I'm sure
at some point in time, if I come

1245
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,000
to that point where I can do
that, I'm sure the weight,

1246
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,160
there's going to be some type of
weight that falls off my soul.

1247
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,680
I guarantee that, right?
But it, but it's one of those

1248
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,560
things where it's just, it's,
that's, that's a hurdle that I'm

1249
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,360
just not ready to, to jump over
yet because I'm just not because

1250
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,840
there's.
So now I went and did the, the

1251
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,200
EDMR, the the trauma training
and I faced some of the traumas

1252
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,360
with that.
And those traumas have

1253
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,920
completely left me.
I don't think about them

1254
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,480
anymore.
When I do, then they pop in my

1255
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,000
head.
There's no emotional inaction to

1256
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,440
it.
There's no physical ties to it.

1257
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,560
It's completely just, oh, that
happened.

1258
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,880
I'm glad you brought that up
because I have another path.

1259
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
I don't know how much he wants
to talk about it, but how much

1260
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,840
credence do you give to like
psilocybin and that kind of

1261
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:16,920
therapy as far as PTSD like he's
talking about and maybe MDMA

1262
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,760
therapy, that kind of stuff?
I don't think it's been, I don't

1263
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,640
think it's been around that long
with, with trials and tested

1264
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,920
scientific reports and medical
reports about it.

1265
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,440
So I'm not for it and I'm not
against it.

1266
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,200
It's just like if it, if it
seems, if it does what it says

1267
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,280
done on the tin to a lot of
people, it's brilliant.

1268
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,160
And even, you know, stuff like
Suboxone, I don't mind.

1269
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,960
So if you're coming off heroin,
I don't mind if you take

1270
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Suboxone, but it's a taper.
So if you're still on Suboxone a

1271
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,040
year down, the guess what,
you're still a drug addict and

1272
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,600
don't let anybody try and can
make you different.

1273
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Yeah, well, I'm clean.
What?

1274
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Because a pharmaceutical company
was kind of the same make up as

1275
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,720
heroin.
Could you Can you imagine, Can

1276
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,160
you imagine the pharmaceuticals
company in a board meeting

1277
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,120
going, do you know something,
boss?

1278
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,200
Do you know all this heroin?
We're losing trillions and

1279
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,480
trillions of dollars on the
streets because of this heroin.

1280
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,080
What can we do?
And somebody else What if we

1281
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,320
come up with a drug, let's for
instant call it Suboxone?

1282
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,680
And convinced the world that if
they went on Suboxone and not

1283
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,680
heroin that you clean and it's
it's from a doctor and the

1284
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,760
fucking world bought it.
They bought that shit.

1285
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,120
Hook, line and sinker.
Right.

1286
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,320
And that, that's how people have
us.

1287
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,480
I mean, you're either clean or
you're not, and no one's judging

1288
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,160
you.
Well, nobody I know would ever

1289
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,520
judge anybody.
So I did this to get clean.

1290
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,120
Do you agree with that?
Do you get clean?

1291
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,040
Yeah.
Fucking right I do.

1292
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,880
Well, that's why I ask you
because that is basically how I

1293
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,680
got clean is on 2 heroic doses
of mushrooms and rewired my

1294
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,600
brain because I went into it
with the intention I'm not going

1295
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,480
to do these particular things
anymore right.

1296
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,000
I wish I would have added
cigarettes to that list because.

1297
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400
All the rest of the stuff it, it
takes you on a journey,

1298
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,120
obviously, but it emphasizes the
thought and this way it gets

1299
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240
really important, Mike.
It emphasizes the thoughts that

1300
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,480
you've already put in your head
before you take the stuff off

1301
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,320
before you go there.
And the mission was used to stop

1302
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,080
AB and C.
And because it enhances our

1303
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,560
imagination, you stop AB and C.
That's how that works.

1304
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,000
But you've got to be ready and
know that you want to quit this

1305
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,960
before you go and take that.
Because people just go in like

1306
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,480
my life sent a mess and they
come out and it doesn't work.

1307
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,360
And the reason why it doesn't
work is you don't have a fucking

1308
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,840
plan.
I had a good.

1309
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,440
I mean, if you haven't got a
plan, who does?

1310
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Nobody else does.
You have to have a plan of your

1311
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,360
life.
This is what I met Arnold

1312
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,280
Schwarzenegger when I was a
bodybuilding back in the late

1313
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,600
70s.
We picked him up from the

1314
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,200
airport, we took him to a hotel
and then we had to make sure he

1315
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,200
got to his two gigs there in
Manchester.

1316
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,080
And when I was sat with Arnold
and this is what set mind set

1317
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,240
off for me.
I'm 18/19 at the time, just a

1318
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,160
kid.
And I said to Arnold who

1319
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,000
couldn't speak a lick of
English, very broken English.

1320
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,600
I said to him, the bodybuilding
is amazing and we love you

1321
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,360
Arnold, but what the hell are
you going to do after this?

1322
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,040
There's not a lot of money in
bodybuilding.

1323
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,200
And he looked me straight in the
eyes, said oh, I'm going to do

1324
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,000
three things.
And I said Oh well OK then

1325
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,720
what's the first one?
I'm going to become the highest

1326
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,440
paid movie star in the world.
Well, we nearly fell off our

1327
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,640
chair because this guy can put 2
words together, you know, But OK

1328
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,000
Arnold.
OK, well what's the second

1329
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,560
thing?
I'm going to become a governor

1330
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,920
of a state in America,
prevalency, California.

1331
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,000
And I was like, well, you can't
do that because this is

1332
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,440
internal.
You can't do that because you've

1333
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,040
got to be a citizen straight
away and born there.

1334
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,040
That's the third one.
And he said, I'm going to marry

1335
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,840
into the Kennedy family.
Check and fucking check.

1336
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,960
And I also remember that when
people say they can't do stuff.

1337
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,000
Did you watch his documentary?
That's a great story.

1338
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:59,920
No, oh, oh, his documentary, but
it, it's, it's, it's not

1339
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:03,800
self-serving at all.
So Stallone did one shortly

1340
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,120
after because Stallone has to be
better than Arnold.

1341
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,480
Stallone's is all self-serving.
I couldn't watch it for more

1342
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,760
than 20 minutes.
I'm like, this is fucking

1343
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,280
stupid.
Arnold's is very humble.

1344
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,680
It's very it's, it's, it's not,
it's, it's, I don't know how to

1345
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,360
explain it.
It's just not self-serving.

1346
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,920
It's, it's very well done.
It, it's worth watching.

1347
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,760
If if, if you like Arnold as a
human, you'll do it's.

1348
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,360
I don't know.
I don't know.

1349
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,640
I'm not going to keep dwelling
on it.

1350
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,760
But it's a good it's a good
documentary about who he is and

1351
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,440
where he came from and what he
achieved.

1352
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Now, knowing what he told you
when you were 18 years old makes

1353
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,320
it that much more.
Wow.

1354
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,400
Yeah.
But that goes back to your

1355
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,960
thing.
It's the power of thinking.

1356
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,680
Yep, all the time.
You can do whatever you want.

1357
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,760
Quantum physics backs us up
here.

1358
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,360
I mean, quantum physics is a is
a well known respect to science.

1359
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,760
And that is if you can picture
yourself somewhere with working,

1360
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,640
you know, a lot of work around
it where you can picture

1361
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,960
yourself somewhere like let's
say a basketball court.

1362
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720
I've never played, but I think
there's ten players on there.

1363
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,280
So if you can, if I can think of
10 robs on there, where do I

1364
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,400
want to be?
Again, never played, but I'm

1365
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,280
thinking if I'm near the goal,
the net and I get the ball, I'll

1366
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,320
stick it in the net and become
the header of the game.

1367
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
That's simple.
So the question is, how do you

1368
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,840
get there?
And the answer is you walk over

1369
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,040
and you take that position.
Oh, Chris, I'm living perfect.

1370
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,080
Fall for it, we started.
A band from the.

1371
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,120
Position yeah, you've got to
you've got to talking.

1372
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,920
Nobody's coming for you guys,
everyone.

1373
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,120
Nobody's coming.
I want to make that real clear

1374
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,240
to people listening.
Nobody's coming for you.

1375
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,920
You're on your own here and you
can either loll in the shit that

1376
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,880
you have right now or you can
step out and go, you know

1377
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,600
something even for your wife or
the kids or you.

1378
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,240
You're going to do something
with your life and set.

1379
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,240
Try and find your own niche
guys.

1380
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,960
So we we had a guy here that
made socks.

1381
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,840
So I said to him, we've gone
through a program.

1382
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,840
Why do you like doing your spare
time?

1383
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,080
I knit socks.
Interesting.

1384
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,240
He said he was going to laugh.
I said I'm not laughing, it's

1385
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,800
just interesting.
What for?

1386
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,280
For my Gran and my mom at
Christmas time, I knit.

1387
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,000
Oh, they love it.
Website or website and we, we,

1388
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,360
we got some socks and
photographs and stuff and I said

1389
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,880
your deal this month before you
leave us on his third month is

1390
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,360
to sell 2 pair of socks.
He actually sold about 5 pair of

1391
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,680
socks.
That guy today owns the one of

1392
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,080
the biggest happy socks.
Can't tell you.

1393
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,560
Can't tell you.
But yeah, I mean, do you know if

1394
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,880
once people there you go, There
you go.

1395
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,320
Once people can convince you
because you're you're convinced

1396
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,480
yourself people are buying the
people around you that don't

1397
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:43,120
first five people around you
that don't you, you that's not

1398
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,680
your pond to fish.
You move along, move along.

1399
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,720
People around you will change.
How do we know?

1400
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,800
Go back to our testing.
And science lab, we got 9 actors

1401
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,480
to come into the waiting room
out there, and there and there

1402
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,520
the instructions was.
When you come in, you drink

1403
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,560
coffee, you'll hear a buzzer
every 45 seconds.

1404
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,400
When the buzzer goes, I need to
stand up for a few seconds and

1405
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,840
I'll sit down.
That's it.

1406
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,160
We'll give you $100.
Are you in The actors went I'm

1407
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,800
loving it.
They all come in.

1408
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,200
We we got one patient that
didn't know what was going on,

1409
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
but we said you know everything
of breath box.

1410
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:18,360
She come in sat down the stated
set that nine actors stood up.

1411
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,280
She's on a phone.
So she glances up quick and back

1412
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,040
to the phone.
They stood up again.

1413
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,760
Now the phone goes in a lap and
she's looking at these guys.

1414
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,400
So they all sit down again on
the 3rd buzzer.

1415
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:35,080
So we're like 3 or 4 minutes
into this of change behavior to

1416
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,000
start with everyone else, which
was interesting.

1417
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,240
But as we call the actors in one
by one as if they were patients.

1418
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,760
She was the only one waiting in
the waiting room.

1419
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,520
She stood up.
So the people around you that

1420
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,720
negatively involve you with
their behaviour will become your

1421
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,800
behaviour.
It's the mirroring part of the

1422
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,200
brain.
You can't hang around those guys

1423
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,400
if you're not getting lifted up
every single day by the people

1424
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,520
around you.
Rob, you're amazing.

1425
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,920
You can do if you're if they're
not your guys, you need to move.

1426
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,920
You can't change the people
around you, but you can.

1427
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,440
Change the people around you.
Conversation with a friend of

1428
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,440
mine yesterday, that's how.
The universe is synchronicity,

1429
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,040
all right?
I literally just said that you

1430
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:21,240
cannot move forward if you are
surrounded by leeches because

1431
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,560
they will suck everything away
from you, even if it's what you

1432
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,040
just said.
If they're just simply telling

1433
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,480
you, why are you wasting your
time with that podcast?

1434
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,240
Why are you doing this?
Why are you trying to convince

1435
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,160
people they aren't going to be
drug addicts?

1436
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,520
Why are you trying to be the
best real estate agent you can

1437
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,400
be by being all over social
media?

1438
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,520
Why are think about all the
people that tell you why are you

1439
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,960
doing this?
Why are you guys?

1440
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,640
Those are not your people.
No, you can be.

1441
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,640
Friends with those?
People, people stay in

1442
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,360
relationships way too long.
Yeah, they stay in relationship.

1443
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,840
Way too long.
They stay in jobs way too long.

1444
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,720
They stay in marriage is way too
long.

1445
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,760
If you're going coming back from
work every day and you're

1446
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,040
walking on egg shells and your
boss is on your back, you need a

1447
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,920
new fucking job.
If you're going over to your

1448
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,800
partner every night and the same
thing you need in your wife that

1449
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,040
and Oh well, that's easy for
you.

1450
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,120
No, it's not that hard.
It's not that hard.

1451
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,280
Marriage is supposed to be
amazing.

1452
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,560
It's supposed to be fun.
It's supposed to build shit

1453
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,319
together.
If you're arguing most of the

1454
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:18,120
time, leave.
Yeah.

1455
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,760
I mean, if if you hang around 9
depressed people, you will

1456
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,120
become the 10th.
If you hang around 9

1457
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,319
millionaires, you will become
the 10th.

1458
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,680
I mean, it's just normal brain
science behind this is we are

1459
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,720
the people we hang around, and
you have to cut people from your

1460
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,040
life.
I, I told you I lost a lot of

1461
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,640
weight and about 3 or 4 months
ago.

1462
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,279
I have a bunch of guys and one
of them is always a little bit

1463
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:44,600
sneaky and I walked in in front
of everyone.

1464
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,680
He goes, hey Robert, see you
putting weight on again?

1465
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,319
I'm just joking.
I'm joking.

1466
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,760
He's gone.
I had to just stand up and get

1467
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,399
the fuck out of the room.
I don't need them people around

1468
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,279
me because I still have that
mind that slightly believe what

1469
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,960
you tell me.
If you're telling me I can't do

1470
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,680
something, guess what?
I'm going to question myself.

1471
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,560
Maybe you're not this good
minute.

1472
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,880
And then all that shit that
teachers and caregivers told me

1473
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,279
as a kid.
I stopped believing that stuff

1474
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,120
because that's the way children
are born.

1475
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,640
That's also such a girl.
I'm sorry to.

1476
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,960
Interrupt you, but that's.
Always such a brilliant point.

1477
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:23,080
Doctor Rob, because if you keep
listening to those people, you

1478
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,640
will become them.
I became that person just like

1479
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,479
you.
The other thing that you said

1480
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,080
that is so brilliant is what
people would find fascinating

1481
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,120
about you, Chris and myself is
you can shatter us at times

1482
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,960
still, right?
I lost all my self-confidence as

1483
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,800
a guitar player.
If Chris will tell you, if you

1484
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,840
heard me play a guitar right
now, you would say why are you

1485
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,040
not playing with someone?
Because I hear that all the

1486
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,359
time.
Because I literally, somebody

1487
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,479
broke me down to the point where
I didn't believe that I was any

1488
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,360
good anymore.
Lost your identity.

1489
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,320
I did.
That's what people do, you know,

1490
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,160
once.
Once we find your identity and

1491
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,920
all the work is done, you become
a very dangerous person in the

1492
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,240
nicest possible way, because you
you don't listen to the norm.

1493
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,840
You know, the norm bores me.
I get bored to deviate from the

1494
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,480
norm and you know I was that
person at. 19 better than I am

1495
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:16,600
now.
Yeah.

1496
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,160
I hate weak men.
I just take.

1497
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,440
Wingman, you know and shut up.
You know I'm not interested.

1498
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,520
Stand up.
You know I don't care what you

1499
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,240
do in your spare time.
You dress up as a woman.

1500
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,800
I don't mind.
Stand up and be counting.

1501
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,400
I had to put up a shut up.
I've got time for that shit

1502
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,680
around me.
Well, you keep saying suffer

1503
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,800
fools.
You keep saying something that's

1504
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,160
so important too.
The reason?

1505
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,440
That like, let's say the book
the secret, the reason that that

1506
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:44,800
doesn't work for most people is
because you can manifest

1507
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,040
yourself to that place in the
universe that you imagine for

1508
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,400
yourself, but you have to you
keep saying it.

1509
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,200
You have to move.
You have to do the work right.

1510
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:57,400
You have to show up every day
and be present and put the time

1511
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,720
in in addition to manifesting
your mind to that point,

1512
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,960
correct.
We we had that's the bench used

1513
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,160
to sleep on when I was.
Homeless.

1514
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,800
I know.
That's why I pulled it up,

1515
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,840
because again, I want people.
I want people to wrap their

1516
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,320
heads around this guy turned
into this guy, right?

1517
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,320
It's this guy to this guy.
Whoops.

1518
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:21,360
I don't know what happened
there, but yeah, so we did our

1519
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,240
work around moving forward.
And what?

1520
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,440
We come up with a 7.3 second
time frame.

1521
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,000
If I'm sat on the couch with my
wife and the dogs tonight and

1522
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,920
I've got a big thing, you're
Coke and a big bag of chips,

1523
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,720
which I do need, but let's say I
do.

1524
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,960
I see Arnold Schwarzenegger on
the TVI turn to my wife to go

1525
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,000
here.
I'm thinking going to the gym

1526
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,480
tomorrow.
I ain't going to the gym.

1527
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,480
I know it.
She's no even the dogs know it.

1528
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:46,800
The dogs are like you're not
going to but within a 7.3 second

1529
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,160
time frame.
Once I've said it, if I move to

1530
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,600
the bedroom, put my sneakers and
my shorts and everything and

1531
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,160
move that back over to the front
door or the car, there's a gun

1532
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:02,120
chance me doing it.
But after 7.3 seconds, wow it's

1533
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,680
gone.
You're not going to do it.

1534
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,480
It's.
Crazy that you choose.

1535
01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:07,840
That time frame because when I
was talking to Chris.

1536
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,840
About my recovery.
I started taking life 10 seconds

1537
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,120
at a time, and I never knew why
I used that time frame, but I'd

1538
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,440
always thought if I can get
through this 10 seconds, I can

1539
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:20,520
get through the next 10 seconds.
Nanny becomes a working part of

1540
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,320
their mind.
See, people want to think about

1541
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:22,920
the past.
What's going?

1542
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,360
To happen to the future.
I've not got a job.

1543
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,760
I can't pay anybody.
Stop.

1544
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,440
Stop that shit.
The scary thing to me was when

1545
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,520
someone said you have to instill
to this day.

1546
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,480
That's the reason I'm still
addicted to nicotine.

1547
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:38,120
I got to rewire my brain, right?
It always scared me when someone

1548
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,880
said forever, you know, when I
thought I'm going to no longer

1549
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,040
be a drug addict.
Now what am I going to do,

1550
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,440
right?
This is my identity.

1551
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:49,160
This is what I do.
The thought of doing that never

1552
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,560
again was overwhelming, but I
could do it for 10 seconds.

1553
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Yeah, I do that in the day.
So I have no idea what I'm doing

1554
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,920
tomorrow.
Like my my assistant will text

1555
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,760
me she text me every night at
6:00 PM for what I'm coming the

1556
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,760
next day.
I I don't want to know.

1557
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,160
So like I said last night at
6:00, being Bing Mike and Chris,

1558
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,560
I'm like, oh, this guys.
Yeah, she messaged.

1559
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,600
She messaged me about the same
time and we saw it for mom.

1560
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,760
Like yes, we.
Are yeah, I don't want to know

1561
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,400
what's tomorrow.
Is I'm going to pack everything

1562
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,600
in today, I'm going to do.
Everything I can today to make

1563
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,240
me and other people's life
blessed.

1564
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,080
That's why I'm here for there's
no stopping me.

1565
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,000
I mean the best shape of my life
mentally and better than ever

1566
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,000
been.
I'm surrounding up people that

1567
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,520
love what I do and vice versa.
I have an amazing wife who who

1568
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,560
loves and believes in in what we
do and and life is and life is

1569
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,040
amazing.
And and again, I, I it's easy

1570
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,880
for you to say fuck that.
No, it's not.

1571
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,400
You're you went to college, who
gives a shit?

1572
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,480
College degree was OK. 20 years
ago there's.

1573
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:49,680
No ROI and a fucking college
degree are you?

1574
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,040
You think these shit means
anything when I'm sat in front

1575
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,880
of a chronic alcohol?
Who's fucking dying of untreated

1576
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,040
alcoholism?
What, He's just going to go like

1577
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,800
my my my wife's brother?
There's no warning on real

1578
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,560
suicide.
He's with with his family, with

1579
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,640
Janet, my wife and the family
barbecuing.

1580
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,400
He says I'm going to go home.
I'm I'm trying to not drink.

1581
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,440
I don't feel good around alcohol
hugging Janet.

1582
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:14,680
I'll see you tomorrow.
We're going shopping tomorrow.

1583
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,520
And this is what the cameras
show.

1584
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,520
He goes up the driveway into the
garage, gets out the garage,

1585
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,800
reaches for a gun and blew his
fucking head off.

1586
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:26,880
Wow.
That's reality of a life, man.

1587
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,800
So you better get your shit
together, guys.

1588
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,240
You don't have to live like
that.

1589
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,920
You've got to start living it in
today and believing that we only

1590
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,160
have now.
What else do we have it like

1591
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,360
I've got 1:45 PM my time.
I'm enjoying this moment.

1592
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,240
I'm not thinking what I'm going
to do at 2:15.

1593
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,400
I'm not right.
No fucking killing it now, baby.

1594
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,760
We're just yeah, baby.
Oh, let's do it.

1595
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,920
So this.
This, I think, is a good kind of

1596
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,120
spot.
Just kind of wrap things up.

1597
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,280
Because you, you're, you have
things to do today.

1598
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,560
We have things to do today.
And I, I like where, where we've

1599
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,040
gone with this.
I definitely want to have you

1600
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,920
come back on the show another
time because I feel there's so

1601
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,120
much more we could talk about,
especially with everything that

1602
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,280
you do because again, your life
resume is fantastic.

1603
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,400
Time is valuable.
We truly appreciate your time.

1604
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,640
Mike and I have both been
touched.

1605
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,800
I saw that real quick, man.
Yeah, your energy is infectious

1606
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,600
and.
I feel blessed that you did

1607
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,440
this.
Anytime you want to come back,

1608
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:29,880
you reach out to us and you're
welcome back here anytime.

1609
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,480
I just yeah.
And I'm, I'm hyper.

1610
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,240
I feel like I just did a line of
speed.

1611
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,720
And that's, that's what you
expect, right?

1612
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,240
Where do you guys live?
I live in Illinois, Arizona.

1613
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,440
Oh, I'm in Arizona soon.
Illinois Tyson over there.

1614
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,280
When you come to Arizona.
Give me give me a heads up when

1615
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,480
you come to.
Arizona I.

1616
01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:50,560
Will so off air when we go, I'll
get your phone numbers, but

1617
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,080
listen.
Guys.

1618
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,080
Cool.
Yes, this is the book.

1619
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,080
Daddy.
Daddy, please stop drinking.

1620
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,200
That's my daughter Charlie.
That's me.

1621
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,800
OK, 10 copies.
Let's give them away free.

1622
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,000
Just mention the show.
Mention Mike, Chris or Rob.

1623
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,000
I'll sign it for you.
I'll send it.

1624
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,200
I'll pay for the shipping and
everything.

1625
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,000
On what condition?
That you give it to somebody

1626
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,800
else when you're done there you
go we'll put that on our

1627
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Facebook page and we'll put it
on we'll.

1628
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,680
Forgot how to put on the
website.

1629
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,480
So you want to find doctor Rob,
just Google doctor Rob Kelly.

1630
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,160
You're going to see all his, all
his stuff.

1631
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,920
He's everywhere, his website,
his all the social media stuff

1632
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,200
like that.
Definitely if you're struggling

1633
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,840
with anything, not just
addiction, if you want to change

1634
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,720
your mindset, you want to change
how you're thinking in life.

1635
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,520
You want to achieve more than
you think you can.

1636
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,840
This guy can help you do that.
I, Mike and I will both reach

1637
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,160
out to Courtney too, because I
want to take I want to try that

1638
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,720
thing out that you mentioned
because I I there's value and

1639
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,840
everything you said today and it
resonated with me on so many

1640
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,600
different levels.
So we're going to have a little

1641
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,160
journey.
I think Rob for sure.

1642
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,640
I think so he's Doctor Rob
Kelly.

1643
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,800
I'm Chris Dunham.
He's Mike Michaels.

1644
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,680
This.
Is the Chris and Mike show.

1645
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000
Remember, if you're feeling
suicidal, depressed, don't do

1646
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,480
it.
Go journal, go run and go go

1647
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:58,840
workout.
Go scream in a pillow.

1648
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,200
Go find somebody to talk to you.
If you can't find someone to

1649
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,120
talk to, you can text 988.
Somebody is there waiting to

1650
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,920
help you, talk you off that
Cliff, get you off that edge.

1651
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,840
Tomorrow is a better day because
you're waking up in it.

1652
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,440
Don't leave a hole in somebody
else's heart because you decide

1653
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:13,880
to take your own life.
It's not worth it.

1654
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,480
Again, tomorrow is a better day
with you in it for Chris and

1655
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:19,400
Mike show and doctor Rob Kelly.
I'm Chris.

1656
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,920
He's Mike.
That's doctor Rob Kelly again.

1657
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,240
Love you, Mike, love you, doctor
Rob.

1658
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,240
I know you.
I don't even know you, but just

1659
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,800
talk, man.
Amazing, amazing time with you

1660
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,720
today.
We so appreciate your your time

1661
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,240
and presence.
We're going to have you back on

1662
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,080
for sure.
Thank you.

1663
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,080
And yeah, we'll definitely be in
contact again.

1664
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,120
Until next time, everybody, see
you.

1665
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:39,920
Peace.