March 29, 2026

#186 - Eric & Candice - The Impulsive Duo

Show Notes
Transcript

This episode features Eric and Candice, known as the impulsive duo, sharing their journey into the lifestyle, how they empower women through their app Unicorn Landing, and insights into navigating relationships, boundaries, and misconceptions about the lifestyle.

In this candid conversation, Eric and Candice share their insights on the lifestyle, emphasizing communication, boundaries, and personal growth. They explore the importance of confidence, respect, and connection in maintaining healthy relationships within the swinger community.

Check out Eric & Candice at their website below.

https://www.theimpulsiveduo.com

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https://www.chrisandmikeshow.com

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We are live little boys and

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girls I know.
Right, for we play a little.

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Music to get started.
I'm.

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Yeah.
Hey, welcome to the Chris and

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Mike show.
He's Mike.

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I'm Chris.
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With us today we have Eric and

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Candace, the impulsive duo Slash
the Pineapple.

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Perfector.
This is going to be a super fun

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episode.
This is a super fun

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conversation, so for those of us
that don't know who you 2 are,

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why don't you give us a little
elevator ride and tell us why

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you're here, what you're all
about, and and the kind of fun

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conversation we're going to have
today.

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Let's see, well, we are yes to
impulsive duo on social media.

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We have a podcast.
We consider ourselves lifestyle

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or swinger for those that don't
know what the term lifestyle is.

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Educators.
We've been a lifestyle for a

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while and just kind of educate
and we're advocates for it and

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we share our experiences.
We own a couple apps that are

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lifestyle centered and we yeah,
just do social media, YouTube,

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podcasts, we travel around, we
host events.

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What else do?
You do we we we help people have

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sex, apparently.
See, that's a wonderful thing,

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right, 'cause sex brings the
world together, right?

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We're we're mad.
At all the hate and anger.

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There you go.
So how do you?

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So let's talk about matchmaking.
How do you, how do you, how do

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you do that from a social media
standpoint?

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Well, I owe Unicorn Landing,
which is a lifestyle app for

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women in the lifestyle to
connect with other women with a

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little more women centric or
centered and women kind of make

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the first move on the app.
And so that kind of was where

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the dating we I see that we're a
matchmaker.

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We help other people hook up
more than we do.

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And then just when we host
events, really, we always joke

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that everyone else comes to the
events and has a good time.

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And Eric and I are working most
of the time or, you know,

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talking to a lot of people.
So we don't always get to have

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as much fun as they do.
And a lot of people have the

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events and stuff a couple and
it's usually the same thing of

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like, you know, how do I play or
we run to a lot of people that

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go to a lot of clubs and they've
never played before.

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How do I play?
And her and I are really good

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about just talking to people who
are new and the next thing you

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know you get these people who
have never played at a club and

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now they're playing all of a
sudden.

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Yeah, while everyone else is
having fun, Eric and I are like,

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cool, And then we're cleaning
up, you know, our stuff.

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And so we just always joke.
We help other people hook up.

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OK, cool.
So I'm going to back up a little

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bit because when you drop, when
you drop the phrases, I want the

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definition.
So what's a Unicorn for those

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that don't know?
So a Unicorn is a single

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typically bisexual female that
will play with couples.

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So like if you're interested in
like a three-way situation, it's

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typically a single female, yes,
that is bisexual will play with

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couples.
And the Unicorn Landing app is

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for all women, not just single
bisexual women, just for women

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to connect and also single women
to feel like they have a safe

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place to talk to couples.
So yes, that is what a Unicorn

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is.
OK.

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Gotcha.
Mike, do you have any questions

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so far?
You're just sitting there.

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That wouldn't.
That was my question, the

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definition.
He's intrigued.

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I've actually, yeah.
Yeah.

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Well, I just wonder, did you
meet outside of this lifestyle?

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Did you decide this lifestyle
together?

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You know, how did this happen in
the relationship?

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So we we actually met each other
on Bumble.

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We're both going through
divorces.

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I had just moved to Idaho and I
was, I was new here to Idaho and

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I was just trying to find what
to do here and looking for

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friends.
And as guys, as you 2, as guys

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know how hard it is to make
friends, especially later on in

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age.
So, you know, you jump on apps

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and I ended up meeting Candace,
who was, you know, going through

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divorce too.
And so we just became friends.

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We became friends with benefits,
like she became like my best

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friend up here and then we kind
of went our own separate way.

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Never talked about the lifestyle
or any of that.

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She knew that I did social media
at the time.

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I was bisexual.
I had, I had kind of come out as

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I and kind of wanted to explore
that after my divorce and, you

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know, kind of just experiments,
I mean, as you do when you're

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newly divorced and kind of
finding yourself.

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And so I had told Eric that I
was, you know, wanted to kind of

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explore that as well.
And he was like, cool, that

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sounds great.
And so, yeah, wow, that's a

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drag.
So.

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It was something that he was
like, yeah, you know, he wanted

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me to have the opportunity to
explore and whatever.

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And then when we started.
Well, we actually started date

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dating.
Yeah, dating.

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It was kind of one of those
things where it's like we can

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still explore this together and
kind of just learning.

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When I was single and on dating
apps, I had ran into a lot of

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couples who were kind of looking
for that a single girl.

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And I was like, oh, this is like
an actual thing that people do.

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I didn't know a ton about the
term Unicorn or the term like

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the lifestyle, but I have had,
yeah, a lot of couples reach out

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to me and wanted, you know, And
so I kind of just brought that

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up to Eric and we just kind of
just started discussing it and

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it just evolved over the last
several years.

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Yeah.
It's.

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Evolved so so the so OK, so the
app again is called Unicorn

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Landing and you find it on all
the app stores.

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Yeah, it's on Google and iOS.
Yeah.

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So that was started.
I started that we've been the

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lifestyle for a little bit and I
was finding that a lot of the

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life, there is a lot of
lifestyle apps out there are a

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handful of them and they're
great.

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I we use them all.
I always tell people it's best

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to kind of use them all rotate,
but a lot of them are very male

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dominated and men are on the
profiles and men run the

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profiles.
And so it was just kind of a

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place where a lot of women
didn't feel comfortable on apps.

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So yeah, that's kind of how it
came.

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About so you so you figure out a
way to empower women in in the,

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in the sex forward movement.
I call it sex forward movement.

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So, but you figure out how to
empower women by giving them

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more control, which I think is
cool.

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It is cool.
Yeah, I was running into a lot

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of women like me who were just
wanting to kind of explore this

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new side of themselves and
explore their sexuality.

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But they were like, where do I
meet people?

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Where do I even meet just
friends?

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Where do I, you know, where do I
find people like me kind of in

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this new phase of life?
So that was, yeah, kind of it

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was just a community to to find
other women, really.

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Yeah, because when you're when
you get into this lifestyle and

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you you get onto apps, like we
made the decision when we first

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got into this lifestyle, I knew
my personality and I want this

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was for, you know, my wife to
explore this side of it.

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And so I was like, hey, you run
the apps.

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And it was kind of even what I
didn't even realize is bad is

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it's very dominated by men.
And there's a lot of men who

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don't know what this is at all
about.

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I'm sure there's a lot of people
probably watching your podcast

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that are like, oh, swingers.
So they're not happy together.

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She's just getting railed on the
side all this.

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So you get a lot of guys who are
cheating on their wives.

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They don't even know they're on
swinger apps.

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Guys who just they have no idea
what this lifestyle really

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entails at all.
Yeah, I had multiple men asked

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me to have affairs, all sorts of
interesting situations that I

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was running into.
So, so it was one of those that.

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So she had some ideas.
So shed some light on that.

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Yeah, yeah.
Shed some light to the well,

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yeah, the men's side because
that that obviously Candace has

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the app.
It's it's driven to help empower

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women, you know, safe place on
some level, right.

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So, so talk about what you just
alluded to there, Eric, as as

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far as what men think of it, or
which, just like you said, what

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viewers are watching this night
now thinking you're just, oh,

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you're swingers, you're not
happy.

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You're, you're chasing things
and you're trying to fill voids

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and all that kind of nonsense,
which I've, we've watched enough

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of you to know that's not the
case, but I.

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But the rest of the world?
Is going to have the

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preconceived notion?
Absolutely.

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Yeah, the the preconceived
notion, even like my

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preconceived notion was, you
know, people aren't happy and

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this is just an easy excuse to
cheat.

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And and it really isn't because
the swinger lifestyle, I mean,

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you're very open with your
partner.

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You're talking about everything.
I mean, we're not doing anything

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behind each other's back.
We're consenting 100% right?

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Everything together.
Communicating, right?

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And it's amazing, like she'd be
on apps.

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And especially when you're new,
you don't want to like offend

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people.
Like you don't know what you're

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doing.
You think everybody's just like

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you and you really go into with
that almost naive mentality.

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And so she would tell me, oh,
I'm talking to this guy.

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But next thing you know, his
wife would never get into a

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group chat or she'd come up to
me and be like, this guy

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actually goes to our gym and he
wants to do me in his car.

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His wife just had a baby.
She doesn't even know he's on

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the app.
And we're just like, what the

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hell is wrong with people?
Yeah, so we're fighting a lot of

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men.
We're just fighting it as like

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an excuse to lie or cheat or
yeah, so and there is a lot of

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that preconceived notion like,
oh, any girl that's in the

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lifestyle that's, you know, I'm
just getting railed out by a

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bunch of dudes.
I'm not happy.

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I'll hook up with anybody.
There's just so many, yes,

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preconceived notions.
And we always tell people,

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everybody, or how I always tell
people when they think like, why

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are you doing this?
Why be married?

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So 90%, five percent of me in
Eric's life is a very monogamous

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normal life.
We've got kids and events and we

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travel and you know, I've got
kids in sports and it's just

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that's our life.
We have a home together.

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We have a normal, monogamous,
healthy relationship.

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But every, everybody out there
and you're lying if you say you

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haven't, has had some sort of
fantasy, sexual fantasy at some

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point in your life, whether it
be with another girl, with

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another guy, with a couple,
whatever it may be.

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Everybody's had some sort of
like, oh, that could be hot.

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Now imagine getting to do those
things with somebody you

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absolutely trust, your best
friend and in a healthy way.

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And you're like, and then
afterwards you're like, Oh my

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God, it's so hot.
And we just do that together.

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And it's like really like, it
just adds this level of like

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spice and excitement.
And I think people don't look at

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it like that.
They think it was like, oh,

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you're just miserable.
Why are you guys even together?

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And it's that's could be further
from the.

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Truth.
It's the whole opposite, OK?

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So, and well, it's the complete
opposite.

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Because if even if, if you look
at like divorce rates and stuff,

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because there are these studies
coming out like horse rates

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among swingers are lower than
monogamous.

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And the big thing is, is you
have to talk to your partner.

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How often do you talk to your
partner about sex or you know,

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what problems that you're having
to communicate like this?

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We have to talk about
everything.

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If something's not good
mentally, like you have to talk

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about, we're not going to go to
an event and have a bad

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experience or blow, you know,
blow up.

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Or you can't and you can't let
things like fester.

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You have to bring it up right
away.

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Feelings or hey, I'm feeling.
And the more you do that, the

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more you say, hey, this made me
jealous.

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Hey, I felt uncomfortable.
This I'm feeling this way.

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The more you do it, the easier
it gets.

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And so Eric and I have zero
reason.

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Or like we don't hide anything
for each other because we don't

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have to.
Nice.

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Yeah, yeah.
So here's so so you you made a

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couple comments and I have I
have a question that's directly

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to rated that so you have kids,
right?

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Yes.
OK, so do your kids know?

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Because you're so out there
socially, so I would think it

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was almost impossible to realize
something so.

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I know.
So I have, I have two kids.

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They're Eric's best kids.
I have a now one that is now an

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adult child that in college.
And yes, they do know.

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We don't.
We obviously Eric and I are in

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it on the business side.
So of course it's like, oh, we

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have work events.
I own an app, you know, they

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know what swinging kind of is,
but we don't discuss it anything

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other than that.
Like Eric and I are going out

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for the weekend with friends,
doing something.

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We're like, oh, we're hanging
out with friends.

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Like you don't discuss those
things with.

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You don't discuss what you do in
the bedroom.

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Monogamist.
You don't.

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Do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I didn't think you would.
Yeah.

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Your mom and dad are going to go
to this club, but everybody so.

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You keep it very inappropriate.
They know, you know, it's kind

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of one of those things.
It's like you guys are adults,

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you do what you want.
I don't care.

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We just don't really talk about
it more than just like all of

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you have a work event, a
business event.

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I do also have a younger
teenager and they actually do

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not know.
They know that I own an app.

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They know that we have we travel
for work, we do social media,

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but they don't we they don't
have their own social media yet.

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They're like very new teenager.
And so we have had discussions

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about we are going to have to
have adult like we are an age

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appropriate conversation kind of
about what we do because it's

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only a matter of time.
But we do have them blocked on

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things, yeah.
OK, OK, so that being said, now

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we got the kids covered.
What about your parents?

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Because I'm sure people are
sitting and watching this, you

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know?
Oh, I bet their mom and dads are

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super pissed or like freaked out
by what they're doing, you know?

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Now I understand, Beck.
It's the same thing as a

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daughter.
Yeah, because here's The thing

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is, is just like with with
parents and stuff like this,

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it's funny because everyone
looks at swing different than

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they do monogamous, even though
it's kind of the same thing

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You're sex is in both, you know
what I mean?

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And so it's not that I ever
watched my parents ever and was

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like, Oh yeah, you know, me and
and so and so we just rammed one

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out any of that, you know, and
we don't work for validation

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from our parents.
A lot of people will will talk

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about like talking to their kids
or their parents, like they have

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this coming out, like they need
to be validated almost.

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For us, we brought it up.
It's a business.

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It's black and white.
We don't go into detail.

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They know that we're thriving
and we have very successful

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life.
And so they're just, they're

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cool with it and you don't
really go into detail.

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Yeah, and I I did grow up very
conservative and I come from a

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conservative family.
And again, I think my like my

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mom has passed.
But my dad, I think it's one of

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those things where they see me
being successful and we own a

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home and, you know, my kids are
happy and healthy.

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We don't bring any of this into
our home.

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It doesn't involve my children.
They, you know as well.

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They.
Yeah, it's like you're happy,

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you're healthy.
I don't care what you're doing

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behind closed doors.
You're adults.

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They know I own a business.
But again, I think you, Eric and

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I have been very lucky that our
our parents are very supportive

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of just who we are as people.
And as long as we're health,

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healthy, functioning members of
society, we've been and I do

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have some extended family I
don't see quite as much.

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And I've had like an uncle make
some kind of rude comments.

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But again, it's funny because
you know he'll say those things

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and has made some rude comments
to other members of our family.

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Yet he is married to his ex
wife's best friend who he was

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having an affair with.
And that's all OK with the

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entire family, but I'm a
disappointment.

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OK, so his marriage, his ex
wife's best.

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Friend.
OK, Yeah.

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Criticalness and I don't need
people like that in my life, so.

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No, Agreed.
Let them be what they want to

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be.
Do you have any questions, Mike?

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I guess most people's question
would be you answered, you know

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that you do it outside the home.
How long have you guys been at

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this?
Because you're, I'll give you

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credit, you're older than I
thought you were.

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Apparently I thought you were
way younger than us.

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But if you have an adult child,
congratulations.

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Thank you.
Good skin care.

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She's kidding.
I did have my daughter Young.

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I have her 22.
So I mean, she's, you know, OK,

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I'm for.
I'm actually going to be 41 next

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week.
Congratulations, you look great.

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You both look great.
What age did you get into this?

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So I can have a time frame and
the listeners can have a time

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frame.
And how long have you been at

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this?
Because you've accomplished a

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lot and you really have
explained how you've established

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rules and.
Yeah, in just 20 minutes, you've

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like, you've like given like a
whole.

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Here's a whole nugget of
everything which is awesome.

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So we've been in, we've actually
only been in the lifestyle for

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five years, which in the reality
of the lifestyle and people you

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meet, it's a very short time.
We've only been together for

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five years.
But I think that Eric and I,

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just because we started to be
vocal about it, we never claimed

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to be experts.
We share our own experiences.

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We saw how hard it was when we
first got in the lifestyle to

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find resources, what we were
doing, we had no idea where to

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meet people and just sharing the
real side of the lifestyle.

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And so that's.
So we, again, we never claimed

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to be expert on the lifestyle,
but we've also met so many

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people over the years and like
share their experiences, things

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like that.
So yeah, we've only been at it

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for yeah, about five years.
So we've met when we.

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Were so.
I was 34 turning 35.

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I was 40.
You were 40.

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Yeah.
Eric had just turned 40.

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Yeah, OK.
So yeah, no.

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So did you have a mixed?
You have a come off like, oh, go

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ahead.
No, I was just going to say, for

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lack of a better term, did you
have, do you have a couple that

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mentored you Like, hey, come
along, we'll show you the path.

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That's a great question.
No, we and like social media, if

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you look at it, makes swinging
look like this is super easy.

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Everybody's hooking up,
everybody's playing, everyone's

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confident.
Every there there's like, like

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this is the easiest thing in the
world.

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And so we even went into this
like, oh, this is going to be so

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much fun and you don't really
realize the reality of it.

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And that was the thing that we
wanted to share when we started

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even sharing by our social,
doing it on social media was

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just what was the reality of
this?

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Because it's not what social
media plays it out to be.

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People think we're we're hooking
up with people left and right

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all the time.
We might play once a month.

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Not even not even that.
Like this year, we played twice.

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Twice, yeah.
And it's and it's March.

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The end of March.
Yeah, yeah.

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So social media portrays this
lifestyle completely different

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than what in reality it is.
And so we started sharing, yeah,

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the good, the bad, the ugly with
it.

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And we think that Eric and I are
a pretty average couple, Like

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average, like looking.
And you know, we live in Boise,

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ID, nowhere fancy big city.
We, you know, we just kind of

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share like what's the reality of
what real life swingers were

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like?
Like we're not off doing a bunch

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of porn like a lot of them are.
And just that's kind of how we

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kind of dove head first into it
because we know that we were so

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lost when we started it that
that's why like our Facebook

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group book that we have all of
that is called Swinging for

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newbies.
Like we really focus on what

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it's like to be brand new in
this lifestyle and have no idea

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what to do.
So you so you wrote a book

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called Swinging for Newbies.
Yeah, it's just like a little

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manual.
It just shares a little bit

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about our journey.
That's awesome.

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Questions.
OK, things like that.

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It's on our website.
It's an ebook.

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That's awesome. 8 dollars 799.
OK.

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I'm looking it up.
Go ahead, Mike, Fire away with a

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question.
I'm just fascinated.

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I that is not the experience
that I think that most people

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would portray, You know, that
they have the image.

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You always go to the worst case
scenario.

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You know, everybody thinks of
the nuclear family, you know,

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mom, the kids, and then you
start throwing this kind of

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monkey wrench into their thought
process and they automatically

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go to you're going to the seedy
place and, you know, you're

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putting the kids to bed and
you're doing things that you

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shouldn't be doing.
And you just explained the exact

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opposite of that.
So kudos to you for, like Chris

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said, not having a mentor and
inventing this way of making it

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work that your kids don't even
understand what's going on

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really.
And that's kind of the way it

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should be.
Yeah.

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No, it's and it's one of those
that it's.

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Love and.
Pulsively, you know, there,

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there isn't a right or wrong way
to be in this lifestyle.

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There's a lot of people that are
kind of like us.

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We get in, you get in this
lifestyle because the wife, you

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know, wants to experiment or
even the guy wants to experiment

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or whatever it might be, you
know.

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Yeah.
Yeah, there's like for.

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Like for instance, like you're
monogamous and you go away for

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an anniversary weekend with your
partner to somewhere romantic

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and sexy.
You don't come home and tell

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your parents, tell your kids, oh
guess what your dad and I did

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this weekend.
Like you don't you say mom and

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dad went.
To you know.

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The mountains for the weekend
and we had a great time.

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And that you leave it at that.
And it's just like our life's,

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you know, when we go to events,
it's like, oh, we have a work

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event or oh, we're going to,
we're going to go do this event

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for the, we're going to whatever
Chicago for the weekend.

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And it's like, OK, like we
don't, we don't owe anybody what

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you do.
And so I think a lot of people

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forget that.
And again, we are public.

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And so it obviously is a little
harder to hide, but we always

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joke and tell even like my
daughter, she obviously has

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social media.
She's a, you know, an adult and

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she's I'm like, you can block me
on anything.

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Like I won't be offended, like I
don't know.

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And then she's made a few
comments and she'd be like one

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of your real showed off on my
for you page and I'm like, well,

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don't watch it then, right, And
I'm pretty careful.

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I try not to.
Go.

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See graphic more in an
educational way.

444
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,160
OK.
Yeah.

445
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,520
And for those of you curious,
they do offer lifestyle

446
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,800
mentoring.
So again, the impulsiveduo.com

447
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280
yeah, we go to mentoring which.
We haven't done and we do have

448
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,560
that.
I know we haven't done it in a

449
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,880
little while, but we will.
We have had calls with people

450
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,680
like FaceTime, Zoom calls, cool.
And we've done that just so

451
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,800
people have questions and just
really want to.

452
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,880
We get a lot.
Sorry, our website's not that

453
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,960
great.
It needs updated.

454
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,600
Yeah, a lot of people overthink
this lifestyle and what it is 0.

455
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
There's our.
Podcast and that's the that's

456
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480
the whole thing is it's you
don't have to overthink it.

457
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,320
It's it's literally you and your
partner going in and doing what

458
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,400
you kind of fantasize and talk
about together.

459
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Yeah.
And you may find things that you

460
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,760
don't like.
You'll find things that maybe

461
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,080
you do like.
Like we always tell people from

462
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,880
the beginning, I mean, our
journey where we started just

463
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,240
wanting to play with girls and
what we just, it evolves and

464
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000
changes over time and we go
through phases where we're kind

465
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,600
of like you could give it give
or take like, you know, but we

466
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,400
could give or take the lifestyle
really.

467
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,560
Again, we have a business around
it.

468
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,320
So we're kind of involved, but
you know, we go through phases

469
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,920
where we're.
We're all like, hey, let's have

470
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,560
some spokes.
And then we go through phases

471
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,200
where we're like, dude, this is
too much energy.

472
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,200
I'd rather go take a walk
outside in the night.

473
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Yeah, like I just want to spend
time with my husband and go on a

474
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,480
nice vacation.
Yeah.

475
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,680
Yeah, so I'm watching some of
this stuff because again, you

476
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,920
know, algorithms and whatnot
when you I can, I, I, I and it

477
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,480
comes across in the on the show,
but it also comes across on the

478
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,560
stuff I've seen with you guys.
You're you, you're very much in

479
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,400
love.
You're very connected with each

480
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,400
other.
It just seems like this is just

481
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,280
one of those things that kind of
elevates your sex life first for

482
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,240
a small amount of time over span
of a year.

483
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,920
You you, you have a blast with
like minded people.

484
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,960
You're not hurting anybody.
And I, and from what I've

485
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,760
understand about the thing,
there's there's full swap,

486
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,600
there's soft swap.
And, and so people understand

487
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,240
the correct me if I'm wrong or
correct me if I'm right, soft

488
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520
swap is, is you're together in a
room and there's no intercourse

489
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400
with the other people where full
swap is.

490
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,600
And so full swap is kind of
all-encompassing.

491
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,080
Everything where soft swap is,
is all the oral for played that

492
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,920
type of stuff, right.
So, yeah, what's the, what's the

493
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,360
major?
Yeah, go ahead, there's OK.

494
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,400
So what's parallel?
So you're playing and, and other

495
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,440
people are just playing around
you.

496
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,920
A lot of people play like that
at the club.

497
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,040
They'll just play with their
their partner on a pet and it's

498
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,720
kind of hot other people doing
it around.

499
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600
You, yeah, you like the noises
and like arts be an exhibition.

500
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680
There's voyeurs or
exhibitionists who just like to

501
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,240
be watched or watch other
PeopleSoft swap.

502
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560
It's yeah, there's no actual
like penetration.

503
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,840
There might be some touching and
other things, whatever you're

504
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
comfortable with.
And then full swap is pretty

505
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,840
much.
They all do what I like and.

506
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,200
That there's boundaries.
Involved.

507
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,520
Where people be like, hey, you
know people, but what this or

508
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,040
whatever.
And you always discuss those

509
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080
boundaries ahead of time, like
what you are and are OK with.

510
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600
And you know, it's a very open,
it's not like you're just going

511
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,200
into it hooking up with people
and it's like you have to be a

512
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,880
mature adult.
We always tell people if you're

513
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,200
not ready to be a mature adult
and have the conversations about

514
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800
boundaries and St.
DS and protection and all of

515
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760
that, you're not ready because
you have to have that

516
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760
conversation with people.
You have to say, here's my

517
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,720
recent test results.
I only want to use protection.

518
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680
You know, I'm on birth control.
What are your guys's boundaries?

519
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,080
You have to have that
conversation and be comfortable

520
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,400
having it.
Now here here's here's a

521
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,680
question that I'm sure a lot of
people are curious about.

522
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,520
So you know, the, the the
age-old saying, you know, size

523
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640
matters.
So in this lifestyle, if you

524
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,600
guys, if you guys ended up with
say a, a, a male female couple,

525
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,800
right, and you and your full
swapping, is there any from your

526
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,280
standpoint, Eric, like if he's
like, Oh my gosh, he's bigger

527
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,880
than me.
Are you are you concerned about

528
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,400
that?
Is that like, holy smokes, my

529
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,920
wife's going to going to like
that better than me?

530
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Or is that just everybody being
stupid?

531
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Because it's not so much the
size, it's how you how you use

532
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,720
it.
Well, it's if that it's, it's

533
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,200
the it's, it has nothing to do
with the size that question.

534
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920
What I I've always learned is
it's more insecurities.

535
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,440
That's what bras brings that
because it's always guys.

536
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720
It's never, it's never went.
You know, that that will bring

537
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000
up, Oh, if this guy's bigger
than me, this is how I think of

538
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,200
it.
It's always the guys that will

539
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,640
bring it up.
And a lot of that is

540
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,280
insecurities.
Let's face it, you're going to

541
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,400
when we play.
I'm the first one to get naked.

542
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,960
I've seen guys that are bigger
than me.

543
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,800
I've seen a lot of guys smaller
than it doesn't like.

544
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,040
It doesn't matter.
Like this is 30 minutes an hour

545
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,640
of fun.
Yeah, and if you're not

546
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,120
confident enough, your
relationship looking like Eric's

547
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,800
been with, you know, women that
are smaller than me, bigger

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760
chest than me, and it's like
more.

549
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,800
It's like hell yeah, high 5.
We got to do that.

550
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:51,120
But yeah, it's, you know, it's.
It's more so it's yes.

551
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,640
So it's yeah.
It goes.

552
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Back it goes back to your
experience and you're and you're

553
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,440
yeah, yeah, you're sharing
something you're sharing

554
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,520
something that everybody's.
Enjoying, I mean you more or

555
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,200
less.
I mean the things that you run

556
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,520
into more or less are are, you
know, guys will have a harder

557
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,280
time sometimes keeping it up or
guys will end up finishing way

558
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,080
too like very quickly got you.
I mean, those are way more

559
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,040
common than than really sitting
there going, Oh my God, this

560
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,840
guy's bigger than me or smaller,
you know what I mean?

561
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Okay, okay, yeah, it's a.
New experience like we are I

562
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:31,880
call it vacation vacation Dick
so you know you love but but

563
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
really so you love your that.
Was the best.

564
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,760
That's the best sound bite ever.
To your you know what you're

565
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,400
used to playing with somebody
else, guy or girl, whatever.

566
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,360
Maybe it's different.
It's always going to be

567
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,920
different.
Bigger, smaller, whatever.

568
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,880
It feels different.
Sure.

569
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760
He's going to be a different
sensation of some kind.

570
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320
And it's kind of like you get to
go have a little bit of fun, but

571
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,880
you love coming home to your
partner.

572
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720
Now, if you're not secure enough
in your relationship, this

573
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,680
lifestyle is not for you.
You have to be secure and happy

574
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,680
and content in your relationship
to even consider doing something

575
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120
like this.
But it doesn't even phase me.

576
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Like I said, if air plays with
somebody who I think is, you

577
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,600
know, way hotter than me or
whatever, and it's like, heck

578
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,520
yeah, he got to have some fun.
And then we get to reconnect and

579
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,080
talk about it.
And I'm secure enough to know

580
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,360
that my partner is not going to
leave me for just a 5 minutes

581
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,720
or, you know, 30 minutes of sex.
And if he does leave me for

582
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320
that, then our relationship
would have failed, monogamous or

583
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,600
not.
And we have a lot deeper issues

584
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,520
than the lifestyle if my husband
would leave me over something so

585
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,560
you know.
Yeah, I mean, and, and I think

586
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,000
more often than not, I mean, and
I think it's different for

587
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,560
everybody, but like, you'll,
you'll end up having an

588
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,520
experience and you'll be like, I
like sex with my wife better,

589
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,280
you know.
I mean, it's really weird of how

590
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
it how it works that way is it's
like, oh, this was a this was a

591
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,880
hot experience.
This was a lot of fun.

592
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,080
But wow, I really actually
appreciate my wife even more

593
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,400
now.
Yeah.

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880
And.
I, I tend to get not great

595
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,480
experience.
We've had some experiences are

596
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,040
not so great for me that I'm
like, I just want to watch like

597
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,120
it's fun and like there's people
touching and like the whole

598
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480
experience overall is fun.
You get to flirt.

599
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680
It's kind of, we're both very
ADHD and a lot of people in the

600
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,800
lifestyle are.
It's like a dopamine hit.

601
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
You're like, you know, you get
that new fun, flirty feeling,

602
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,800
but then at the end of the day,
you're like, Hey, why don't we

603
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,400
go home and have sex with my own
husband now because he knows

604
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,400
what I like.
And it's.

605
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560
Yeah.
So it's not always like.

606
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,120
So so.
Sex is better.

607
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Right, it's, it's more of the,
the IT sounds like it's more the

608
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160
adventure and the thrill of the
adventure and and getting from

609
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,800
point into point being like, OK,
right, right.

610
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,760
So, so, So what I'm hearing to
this kind of a mute point now,

611
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600
because there is, correct me if
I'm wrong.

612
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,760
And this is sound like any
insecurity when you guys are

613
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,000
doing this because you're so
grounded in who you are as a

614
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,200
couple and you have all the
boundaries in place that that if

615
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720
like you just said, Candace, if
he's having sex with somebody

616
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800
that that you feel is much
harder than you, you're high 5

617
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,600
and way to go.
You got to do that and vice

618
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,080
versa.
Yeah.

619
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Yeah, no, completely, because
you also know your partner well

620
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,280
enough.
Like if she molds and I know

621
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560
she's enjoying it, right?
There's like that little twinge

622
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,520
of like, jealousy, a little bit
like afterwards.

623
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
I'm not fucking rail you out.
Yeah, fuck you.

624
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Yeah.
Or there's those times where you

625
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280
hear partner and you're just,
like, in the very beginning.

626
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,840
You don't realize this, but
everybody puts on a show.

627
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Everybody's moaning louder than
normal, doing different moves

628
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,640
than normal.
Because let's face it, in a

629
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,080
relationship, your sex becomes
very routine.

630
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240
And so this helps break that
routine.

631
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
It reminds you, oh, I actually
like this position or I like to

632
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720
do this shit.
I haven't done this with my wife

633
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,120
in a while.
I want to do this with her now

634
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280
and then.
You also know your partner well

635
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,760
enough where if she's overly
mournful and stuff, I'm just

636
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,360
like, oh, she's not having the
best of time, let's swap back.

637
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Or, you know, figuring out ways
to keep it as fun as possible

638
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,640
and and vice.
Versa.

639
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
And there are definitely like
those times of jealousy.

640
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
I mean, don't get me wrong,
we're not perfect.

641
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,560
I mean, there's definitely.
I was just going to ask you

642
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,680
that.
I was just.

643
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,960
I was just.
Yeah.

644
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400
I was just going to ask you that
if you ever get a hand of

645
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,280
jealousy when you're.
Yeah.

646
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Yeah, we this really pretty
uniform and back in like

647
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,680
October, November and we had
been talking quite a bit on like

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
just text message, but like
meeting up hadn't happened yet

649
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,080
because with just life and
scheduling and she had kids and

650
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,320
you know, that's just how it
works too.

651
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,160
It's also very difficult to
schedule.

652
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760
And we had talked about we'd
have met her in person, but we

653
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160
hadn't like.
We had, we hadn't played.

654
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,880
With her and we were all
chatting quite a bit and her and

655
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Eric became really chatty in a
group and I could just tell he

656
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,840
was kind of fascinated with her.
I mean, again, she was really

657
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,040
pretty.
She was cool.

658
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,360
And I was kind of having more
insecure about like other

659
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440
things.
And I had to be totally honest

660
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,600
with him and say, hey, I just
want to let you know and not

661
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,520
anything like that.
Like, you have to be so

662
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,920
vulnerable about your jealousy.
And like, you know, you just

663
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360
have to be honest about what's
making you jealous.

664
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,280
And your partner has to have
enough respect for you to listen

665
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,560
to you and validate that
jealousy.

666
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,480
And, you know, he doesn't want
to hurt my feelings.

667
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,320
He doesn't want to make me
jealous, so having conversations

668
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,640
about it regularly keep it a lot
healthier.

669
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,760
No, and, and having those
conversations is really

670
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600
important and it's hard.
I think it's easier for women to

671
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,080
share also what men are.
For men, a majority of them I

672
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080
talk to, it's a lot harder for
us to share because we're, we're

673
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,960
way more challenged when it
comes to communicating than

674
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
women.
And so like, if my wife knows

675
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
we've had discussions about it,
like something that can

676
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,680
especially in the wrong, if I'm
in the wrong mindset that can

677
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,240
throw me off is kissing.
And so like we were on a cruise

678
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,000
one and and she just stopped in
the middle and was came over.

679
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960
She's like, hey, I'm going to go
make out with him.

680
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Are you OK with that?
Just having that like, oh, OK,

681
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,280
cool.
Because she knows if I would

682
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
turn around and I'm not in the
right mindset, it's kind of one

683
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,480
of those, oh.
So this is what we're.

684
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Oh, shit, yeah.
Oh shit.

685
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,520
Moment it's just it's that that
respect for your partner, you

686
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640
know what I mean?
Like like when she came to me

687
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,280
and was like, hey, this is
great.

688
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840
I'm going to back this down like
I'm not questioning it.

689
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,159
I'm not there's no resistance.
Like you're my #1 like, OK,

690
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,960
like, I want you to feel
extremely comfortable.

691
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,679
Yeah, and your partner always
has to be your number one

692
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,000
priority.
And if if you go out for the

693
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,239
nights or we're doing something
and and I am like, yeah, let's

694
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,719
go play, but Eric is like, I'm
not feeling it tonight, then

695
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,639
then we're going to respect the
fact that he's not there.

696
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,000
And I'm not going to do that
because his feeling is better

697
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,560
way more than me than, you know,
going out for the lifestyle.

698
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Like it's not, I don't need this
lifestyle.

699
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Just something hot and fun you
do together.

700
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,679
Right.
So if so, if you go in, if you

701
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,600
go with a couple like you're
going out, you're hanging out,

702
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,960
you're having, you're making
connections and stuff like that,

703
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,400
then you're like, OK, let's go.
You call it spicy time, I think

704
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,639
you said.
So we're going to go back and

705
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,120
and kind of spice things up.
Now you get to, you get to their

706
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
house and everybody's naked,
everybody's making out, having

707
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,200
fun, you know, and, and you have
your boundaries and stuff.

708
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,600
So what if the boundaries
changed in the midst of that?

709
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,280
How do you guys address that?
Like if, if, if someone's

710
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
they're going to go do these
things within the in the, in the

711
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,280
heat of the moment, like, yeah,
I don't want to do that.

712
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,000
So what does that do to the
scenario or the vibe, if you

713
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,120
will?
The first time it happens, you

714
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,800
have no idea what the fuck is
going on and you're like, oh,

715
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,480
and then and then it's the
worst.

716
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,680
It's the worst feeling in the
world because it's like, oh God,

717
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,320
what do I?
Do well and you don't want to be

718
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600
the asshole and make this big
deal in front of everybody.

719
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,120
So you're like, do I just go
along with this right now?

720
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,080
Yeah.
And, and so it's a very big

721
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480
learning experience the first
time it ever happens and and

722
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120
it's happened and it's happened
to us and we have not had it

723
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520
happen again.
I will say if it happened again

724
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,520
I I would have no problem being.
Nope.

725
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,360
The ADHD person I am whatever,
just being like no, but we're

726
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,280
stopping right here.
I am not comfortable with this.

727
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
I'll make it very gulful.
Yeah, if somebody did something,

728
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,680
and I think a lot of that is
your journey.

729
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,080
Like we, our journey is so
different now and we're so much

730
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,320
more secure with ourselves and
the lifestyle, our relationship,

731
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,880
all of that than we were years
ago that I think I have a lot

732
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,320
more.
I don't feel like I owe anybody

733
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120
anything.
I don't owe anybody my body.

734
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,800
I don't care if we're already
naked in bed.

735
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,840
I don't owe you anything.
And so if I want to stop, I'm

736
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,480
going to stop.
And I feel like that's something

737
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,560
you get more comfortable with
and like, learn that you can do,

738
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,120
I don't know, you just get more
comfortable over time and just

739
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,200
get, yeah, more confident, I
guess.

740
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,600
Yeah, no, because it's a respect
thing.

741
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,240
Somebody didn't respect what I
said.

742
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,880
I'm not for like, I don't want
to do this.

743
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Like this is the part of the fun
is going in and just having fun.

744
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,640
You know what I mean?
I I I don't need to go in.

745
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,600
And yeah, and it did happen to
us one time, everybody.

746
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040
There was a lot of alcohol
involved, and that could be the

747
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
other scary thing.
And Eric doesn't drink at all.

748
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Eric's been sober for.
I'm sober sober.

749
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,160
So I've been sober since
7/25/17, yeah.

750
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,920
And so he's totally.
So I've been sober for 21 years.

751
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Nice job.
Sober and boundaries are being

752
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,040
crossed.
That can be very challenging for

753
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,000
him because he is witnessing
what's going on.

754
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520
But you also can't reason with
drunk people.

755
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520
So I don't drink very much at
all.

756
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,200
And I don't really drink when
play.

757
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,800
Like I might have like one or
two sometimes, but I don't

758
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,600
really drink.
Yeah, and.

759
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,120
When you find people that are
nervous lifestyle, you'll find

760
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,360
that they do drink a lot more
because it's very it's you're

761
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,240
nervous.
I mean, when's the last time you

762
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,120
ever went to an event or a club
literally with the intentions

763
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,800
that we might possibly go fuck
somebody?

764
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Else and you're nervous so
you're of course you're like, I

765
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,640
need a drink.
Oh, no.

766
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Like, I mean, there are still
times like we just went to an

767
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,560
event this past weekend in
Arizona and I just got a little

768
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,960
overwhelmed.
There was a lot going on.

769
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,000
I was like, you know what?
I I need a drink.

770
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,120
I need a drink.
So yeah.

771
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,920
But Eric's really good.
It's so great.

772
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640
He doesn't care.
No, yeah, they become

773
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,400
overwhelming and stuff like
that, but.

774
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,800
Yeah, if I'm like, if everyone's
pretty like toasted and it's

775
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080
like midnight, that's when
you're just like, OK, everyone's

776
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,640
pretty drunk, we're over it,
we'll leave.

777
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200
But.
Yeah, yeah.

778
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,040
So here's, here's the so like,
like my wife and I have been

779
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400
married for 30 years and the
connection and love that we

780
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,960
have, it's, it's, I mean, our
sex life's amazing, all that

781
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,360
kind of stuff.
And I'm not just saying that

782
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,120
because you're on the show,
because we truly, we truly live

783
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,680
with each other.
It's been a honeymoon for entire

784
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,320
30 years, you know, aside from
some rocky points, But so just

785
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,560
our life in general is
fantastic.

786
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Thank you.
So we, I mean, we're real good

787
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,720
communicators.
We never really argue.

788
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Part of that is because I
stopped drinking 21 years ago

789
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
and, and that's made our
relationship that much stronger.

790
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,000
How do you keep that kind of
that, that sex kind of with the

791
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480
other people out of your life?
Like, I don't know if I asked

792
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,720
that, right.
But like, so you have your

793
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,400
connection that's deeply rooted
and bonded and you're secure and

794
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040
safe.
So then you you go do the full

795
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,720
thing.
So obviously, you know, you're

796
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,200
not falling in love with them.
It's it's more of an adventure.

797
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,560
It's like a like an extension of
the sex life.

798
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,720
Is there anything that ever gets
in your head that kind of fucks

799
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,800
with that?
Like like as far as relationship

800
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,600
wise or, or does it bleed into
your sex life aside from what we

801
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,560
talked about earlier, like, oh,
I remember that, but I should do

802
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080
that again.
Or is it just you just have the

803
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
ability because the boundaries
are in place, just to kind of

804
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640
separate that like this is
playtime.

805
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Did I ask that?
Why?

806
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:21,680
We did a whole podcast, our own
podcast about how it can, what

807
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,680
was that podcast called, where
we talked about how it can make

808
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,880
you, you push the limits kind of
what the lifestyle.

809
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,520
So sometimes it can make doesn't
make your own sex life a little

810
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,120
boring and how you kind of keep
your own spice alive because

811
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,560
again, if you're pushing the
limits and doing all these hot

812
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,520
things or talking about these
hot things, but then you're

813
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,280
having just kind of like your
vanilla basic sex with your

814
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,800
partner.
We did do a podcast about that.

815
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,760
There can be challenges
sometimes where you feel like

816
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,240
you have to kind of be almost
like even vocally keep pushing

817
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,000
the limits.
You tend to get yourself.

818
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,440
Sometimes if you play too much
you you get.

819
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,880
Numb to it almost to a sense and
you have to get get more extreme

820
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,040
and and the fantasies have to
get deeper.

821
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Yeah, like what else can I do?
What else?

822
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Because it's just you almost
have trouble and it's like you

823
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,200
almost have to just kind of step
away, reset yourself, let all

824
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,720
these these levels come down
the.

825
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Dope.
Balance back and, and really

826
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,280
reconnect with your partner on
that that level because it can I

827
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,280
mean, you kind of get swept away
sometimes in this lifestyle

828
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560
because it's one of those things
we all like attention and you're

829
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,080
getting all this attention and
you've had this hot experience

830
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,760
and you're thinking about it in
your head and then you're with

831
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,720
your partner thinking about this
and now let's try this and and

832
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
all of a sudden sex with your
partner.

833
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,480
It's not that it's not enough.
It's just it's kind of like if

834
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,440
you watch porn too much, if
you're watching too much porn,

835
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,160
you're going to have trouble
having sex with partner.

836
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
You have to almost reset your
friends character where with

837
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,400
this you kind of.
Have to.

838
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,120
So it's got your souls, right.
OK, so that goes back to where

839
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,080
you guys are typically like once
a month or so.

840
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,720
But even though it's March 20th,
you've only had.

841
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Two adventures we played on a
cruise and we played with a

842
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
couple on the cruise, which
again, we were on a cruise.

843
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,480
So we had the intention that was
going to happen.

844
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,040
And then we actually just did
this last weekend.

845
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
We didn't go into the weekend
with like, oh, we have to.

846
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,040
It was just kind of like if we
meet somebody at the club and it

847
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,400
happens and it did and it was so
fun.

848
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,440
But again, it's not something
even at home that we're really,

849
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,360
you know, when we I'm on apps at
home, I own an app obviously,

850
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,560
but I we're looking for every
weekend we're doing.

851
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,840
We're kind of just we keep our
our home life and our like

852
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,400
intimate life, like very like
important and make sure we're

853
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,440
focusing on that.
We date each other just like

854
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640
the, I mean, you know, even when
you're monogamist, like make

855
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,120
sure you're dating each other,
make sure you're trying new

856
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,480
things with each other.
Because there's nothing worse

857
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,840
than when you're in this
lifestyle.

858
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,760
And it's, it's amazing because
you get a lot of people that

859
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,720
don't reach out to you and
they're like, it's almost like

860
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,920
they have to have this.
And if they don't have this,

861
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,800
they have no other hobbies
almost together.

862
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
And you know, there's even times
with my, my wife that if we get

863
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,760
too much, you know, cuz we're
both ADHD, you can get sucked

864
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480
into this.
You're it's this hot, you you

865
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,640
literally the attention you're.
Well, then you crash.

866
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,280
You crash and it's like out of
the point that the worst feeling

867
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,240
in the world is when you're
sitting next to your partner and

868
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,720
you're like, fuck, I actually
miss you.

869
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Yeah, like I miss you.
Like, can we go through

870
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,480
something together?
And it's that that almost aha

871
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,640
moment, like, hey, we've got a
little too much here, let's go

872
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040
spend time together or well.
Then you get the highest on.

873
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,960
Each other because you.
Missed it and you miss like,

874
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,680
yeah, I don't know.
We haven't struggled too much

875
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,120
with it being an issue.
We just know that like we've had

876
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,520
the conversations about how we
can see sometimes if you get

877
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,400
like, yeah, kind of on a high.
But I don't think it's really

878
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,840
affected our personal sex life,
like in a negative way.

879
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960
If anything, more like, Oh my
God, from what we did that last

880
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,040
weekend, it was so you could
like talk about, there's a lot

881
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,960
of pillow talk and like talk
about it.

882
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,680
OK, OK.
Has anybody ever caught feelings

883
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,520
for you guys while in the
dynamic?

884
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,760
Well, obviously I'm just
kidding.

885
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,320
I don't.
They all love is.

886
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Is you don't really go into it
like like to catch feelings,

887
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,720
like you have to hit like
different levels.

888
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,280
Sex to me isn't isn't love like
sex is sex.

889
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,960
It's fun, it's enjoyable, you
know what I mean?

890
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,640
And that's why, I mean, if
you're in Group chats and you're

891
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,120
spending a lot of time
communicating, This is why Eric

892
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520
and I only do group chats.
I'm not just communicating with

893
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,280
a bunch of men without Eric.
He's not communicating with a

894
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,000
bunch of without me.
You're not giving your like,

895
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,320
yeah, we have group chats and
we'll talk to couples and stuff,

896
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,680
but it's not like a everyday.
You're not giving these people

897
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,320
your like emotions.
And yeah, we have some that have

898
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,680
become very, very good friends,
but not something Eric and I

899
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,520
don't like a lot of people.
And we're very much on the same

900
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600
page with a lot of things, like,
like, one of the things that

901
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,200
will drive us.
Yeah.

902
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720
Like, like, it's funny because,
again, everybody gets in this

903
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,160
lifestyle for different reasons.
And not everybody's the same as

904
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,640
us.
And our way isn't necessarily

905
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
the right way.
But we're 100% pretty much.

906
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,520
I would have to say, like, the
same when it comes to stuff like

907
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,920
this.
Like if a girl texted me outside

908
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,320
our group chat and she was like,
hey, good morning, handsome.

909
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,440
And sent me some casual picture
of her like topless in bed

910
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,600
little selfie just to me.
Oh, that's going to piss her the

911
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,080
fuck off.
Oh.

912
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,320
That's crossed.
And with me, it's actually going

913
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080
to piss me off because I'm like,
we're not, this is something you

914
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,400
do when you're dating.
This is something you do don't.

915
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,400
No, I can see that we're done.
Like my wife is getting shown

916
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,880
this.
We're out.

917
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,560
You guys fix whatever's going
on.

918
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,360
And if that's how you have to be
in this lifestyle, then we're

919
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,920
also not the right vibe for it,
which is OK, you know what I

920
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,760
mean?
Yeah, and I would say people

921
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
like, oh, well, it happened.
What if a girl starts doing that

922
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,400
to him and Eric starts talking
to him?

923
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,480
Eric is going to do that whether
we're monogamous or not, if he

924
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,480
wants to.
I can't tell Eric not to talk to

925
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,320
women.
He will regardless if he wants

926
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640
to.
And so I'm confident enough, I

927
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
think in our relationship and
myself that if Eric's going to

928
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,120
go start talking to other women
behind because people are like,

929
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,080
what if he leaves you?
I'm like, well, then he leaves

930
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,040
by he would leave me regardless.
I don't know.

931
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,240
You have to be such a confident
person with yourself.

932
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,920
Lifestyle is not.
I've also we've learned this a

933
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,320
lot over the years.
The lifestyle is not just a

934
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,480
journey together.
It is an extremely personal

935
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,240
journey of growth.
You learn a lot about yourself

936
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,760
and confidence and things you'll
tolerate and just it takes a

937
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,040
lot.
You do a lot of intern because

938
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,160
you'll have jealousy issues come
up, you'll have relationship

939
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,560
issues and you do a lot of like
personal growth as well.

940
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,040
And, and you learn, I mean, and
that's where you, you become

941
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,960
closer as a couple.
You really learn to about

942
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,320
yourself, but you also Start
learning how to communicate like

943
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,520
I'm, I'm the worst at it.
Like when I'm talking, I'll,

944
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,840
I'll want to explain to her how
I'm feeling.

945
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,800
And I'll end up using, I'll be
like, well, you did well also.

946
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Now use the word you.
And now I'm attacking her, which

947
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200
isn't, you know what I mean?
So you start to you start to

948
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,240
really, you learn like, OK, how
do I communicate my feelings?

949
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,400
And I never learned that in any
of my other relationships ever.

950
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,840
You know what?
I.

951
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,200
Mean you hit a lot and there's
so many people that hide things

952
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,080
from their partners or hide
their sexual desires.

953
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,000
They hide things they're
thinking about.

954
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,960
And again, just the more you're
like being so open with all

955
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,440
these things that it's it's the
most like normal healthy

956
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,120
relationship I've ever been in
because I don't feel like I have

957
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,080
to hide it.
That's awesome.

958
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Yeah, there's nothing.
I couldn't come to my wife and

959
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,120
be like, hey, I want to try
this.

960
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,560
That she would look at me and be
like, oh, that's gross or I

961
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,680
don't want to do that.
Well, depending on what?

962
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,280
Depending on what we we.
We I have.

963
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Some value we we have, you know,
there are a few things, but but

964
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,800
a majority of the things, you
know, you're like, oh, OK, well,

965
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,280
like, hey, maybe we talk more
about this and maybe talk about

966
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,840
maybe exploring it or whatever
where in a monogamous

967
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,680
relationship, you're just like,
you're afraid to sometimes just

968
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160
go to your partner and want to
switch it up or whatever.

969
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Yeah.
Like, I have friends that have

970
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,480
like, have horrible
communication with their

971
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,760
partners.
And I have friends that have

972
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,680
even, like, had sex toys and had
to hide those from their partner

973
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,400
because they were afraid their
husbands would get jealous or

974
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,000
upset that they had like, a sex
toy.

975
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,680
And I'm just like what?
Well, I think that's the norm.

976
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,520
Yeah.
That's what's so odd about this

977
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200
whole conversation for most
people is that's the norm.

978
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Yeah, And you know, or they open
up like, oh, I want to try a

979
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,520
different position or I want.
And it's just like, you can't

980
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,040
say that to your.
And I'm not saying this is

981
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,520
definitely stuff that I've
learned over the years.

982
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,360
I mean, I've been in
relationships that I haven't

983
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,080
been, I mean, I've been in
horrible sexual relationships.

984
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,520
I mean, you were, you've been in
something that you felt like you

985
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,320
had to like.
Yeah, I've been in well.

986
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,800
Eric cheated on his ex.
Where, you know, I, I, you just

987
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,800
don't.
You get to the point where you

988
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,520
almost don't vocalize what you
want, you know, and and it's

989
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,400
amazing when you really reflect
back at like past relationships

990
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,240
eventually and you're like, wow,
it was even those relationships.

991
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:48,400
And maybe you blame the other
person.

992
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,840
You really realize after being
in this lifestyle how bad your

993
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,200
communication is.
Yeah, you, you and and like how

994
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,760
bad you are at being.
OK, Gosh, yeah.

995
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,080
You have any questions, Mike?
I've been, I've been kind of

996
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,840
hoarding all the questions
because, you know, it just keeps

997
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,000
giving me things to ask.
OK, we'll.

998
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,400
Just keep.
Talking too, we're like.

999
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,640
I just, I, I think that that's
the key is that lifestyle is not

1000
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,080
going to be for everyone,
obviously, but you guys, your

1001
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,360
guys's message of communication
is what people should take away

1002
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,440
from it is very few people talk
about what happens behind closed

1003
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
doors even be amongst
themselves.

1004
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000
Yeah, yeah.
And you, you also you, you

1005
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,880
become so narrow minded of just
your relationship and forget

1006
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:36,800
what reality is almost out
there.

1007
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Yeah, and you know, some of the
DMS and stuff that we get even

1008
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,280
just shock me.
Yeah, and.

1009
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,320
I'm just like this message that
my husband did this, my partner

1010
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,200
did this behind my back and I'm
just like, call your lawyer,

1011
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,960
man.
I'm like, I like I just don't

1012
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,080
have.
I just don't, I feel.

1013
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,360
All the right.
I am a very 0 tolerance for like

1014
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,920
bullshit and drama.
And I think you kind of have to

1015
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,560
have that mentality.
And people do ask us a lot.

1016
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,960
What if one of you wanted to
quit?

1017
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Or what if this just ended
tomorrow?

1018
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960
And I'm like, OK, like I have a
business.

1019
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,280
And so of course I think I'll
obviously be a little bit like

1020
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,800
involved in the world.
And again, for me also like in

1021
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,680
girls, I think if Eric was like,
I don't want to do this anymore,

1022
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,480
I would be a little sad.
Like I, I wouldn't really, I

1023
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:24,000
don't know if I could give up
women just sometimes, but like

1024
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,040
even like men, like I don't, I
sometimes, like I said, I could

1025
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,320
take it or leave it.
It's more it's just to me, it's

1026
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,160
more like the the experience as
a school.

1027
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,960
It's not.
So I didn't say.

1028
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,840
Personally, it's not like the
sex is my favorite part of the

1029
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,160
whole thing.
It's like the fun flirting and

1030
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,520
meeting new people and like you
find someone's telling you

1031
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360
you're beautiful and so you know
you're getting that kind of like

1032
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,800
again, dopamine or.
Like that.

1033
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,600
Yeah.
So so there's, there's there's

1034
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,480
other question like you,
obviously you, you both are

1035
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,640
super attracted to one other.
You find each other sexy and

1036
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,560
gorgeous and beautiful and
handsome, all that kind of jazz.

1037
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,840
So when you have somebody
outside of you 2 that that you

1038
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,680
know, they're they're lack of
better term, their eye fucking

1039
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,720
you or and they're, they're
casually touching you and

1040
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,920
they're flirting with you.
That has to be kind of a rush as

1041
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,480
well.
Because then because like I can

1042
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,560
tell my wife all day long, she's
gorgeous, she's beautiful and

1043
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,360
all that kind of jazz.
And a couple months ago, we were

1044
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,920
at A at a friend's birthday
party in this.

1045
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,760
We were playing pool and this
guy just walk straight up to her

1046
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,800
and and you know, oh, you're
cutest, whatever, or you're hot

1047
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,040
or something like that, which
which part of me was like

1048
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,480
motherfucker.
But the other part of me is

1049
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,920
like, well, yeah, she is hot.
She's and.

1050
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,400
Like you tell her she's orange,
that I want her to feed.

1051
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,920
Yeah.
Right, right.

1052
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160
So Eric also says that from
that, Yeah.

1053
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,200
So that's part of go ahead.
No, it hits differently.

1054
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,760
I mean, it's I can tell her all
the time.

1055
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,120
It's just I'm annoyed with it
sometimes where I'm just like,

1056
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Oh, you're hot and you're
beautiful and you know, you shut

1057
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,800
up and you see those reels out
there and stuff where you know,

1058
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,480
the wife's in in like pajamas or
whatever and and face mask on

1059
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,920
and the husband's like, Oh,
you're hot.

1060
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,360
You know, that is me.
I like, but when somebody else

1061
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,160
does it to her, it's like, oh,
it's not, it's not expected like

1062
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,360
it is from your partner.
Same with me.

1063
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,760
When a girl like whispers in my
ear that she's excited about

1064
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,480
this or or that she's really
turned on, it hits different

1065
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,080
because my wife's close to stay
this and now I have somebody I

1066
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,200
don't really know really excited
about this like well.

1067
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,360
And then it kind of reminds you
even like, of course there's a

1068
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,200
little bit of jealousy that
you're like, don't look at my

1069
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,160
man.
But like also, yeah, I

1070
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,480
appreciate him.
You're welcome.

1071
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,360
You know, type of like like I'll
share, but he's.

1072
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,920
Still fine at the.
Day.

1073
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,960
Like there's, but if you're all
making in the same room, you

1074
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,040
kind of have to.
That comes with it though.

1075
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,080
You want someone to find your
partner hot and you're like,

1076
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,840
yeah, I know, but he's mine,
Don't, don't.

1077
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Look, but if it's, if it's in
the dynamic of, if it's in the

1078
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,680
dynamic of of date night with
another couple, you that's to be

1079
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,600
expected because you you expect.
Yeah or yeah.

1080
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,240
The the the female to be
attracted to Eric and you expect

1081
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,000
them, right, Right.
Yeah, yeah.

1082
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,920
I I like it, but I was just like
in the vanilla world or like

1083
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,520
somebody who was monogamous,
like a single girl, not in the

1084
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,320
lifestyle tells like Eric will
be on like a a lie on his

1085
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,640
TikTok, not his lifestyle one
his other platform, you know, so

1086
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,880
he'll be like, oh, you have
pretty eyes, not be like, bitch,

1087
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,840
don't talk to him.
No, people.

1088
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:17,800
Be like, oh, are you single?
And she's like, no, not.

1089
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,320
I'll even be like, I'm not.
I'll be like, don't talk to him,

1090
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,800
don't look at him.
But if it's in like a lifestyle

1091
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,840
setting and I'm like, it's just,
it's so funny how your mentality

1092
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560
will change.
I'm like, don't flirt with him

1093
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,920
unless I said you can like,
yeah, it's a it's there's

1094
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
definitely that like little bit
of like possession that you

1095
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,160
have, which makes it kind of
fun.

1096
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,520
And then you're like, you are.
And almost like then you're

1097
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,240
like, oh, I'm reminded and
you're like, yeah, people do

1098
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,200
find you hot.
Guess you are.

1099
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,320
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, that's, I

1100
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,520
think that's the whole point,
right?

1101
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,040
You, you, you, you guys are hot
and you're having, you're having

1102
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,240
naked fun with other hot people
and, and they're on the same

1103
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,640
page and and it's an adventure
you're sharing, which again, is

1104
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,400
just part of your life story.
And you're all adults and

1105
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,240
nobody's getting hurt, nobody's
getting killed.

1106
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,600
I could see that.
Yeah, it's very hard.

1107
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,840
You definitely.
Struggle.

1108
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,440
With.
Yeah.

1109
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,200
It's hard.
It's you have the right to be

1110
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,720
picky and that's the other thing
that people are are are a huge

1111
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,680
misconception that everybody's
doing everybody in this

1112
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,120
lifestyle now everybody's picky
as fuck Yeah.

1113
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,000
And well, not everybody, yeah,
not everybody, but but even like

1114
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,640
with us, like we're we're we're
picky and we have the right to

1115
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,040
be picky.
I don't want to.

1116
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,760
It's amazing how you'll you'll
see some people they're like,

1117
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,440
well, they really like you find
you attractive.

1118
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,200
You should.
I shouldn't.

1119
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,440
Shit, Yeah.
We've had, we made a whole post

1120
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,080
the other day about someone
said, oh, if someone's you're

1121
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,880
not attracted to somebody, I'm
like, well, then I'm not going

1122
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,200
to do it.
I mean, yeah, I want to get to

1123
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,560
know somebody a little bit and I
and you know, personality can

1124
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,600
make attraction grow, but I'm
not physically attracted to

1125
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,000
somebody.
Like I'm sorry.

1126
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,960
And somebody said, oh, are you
guys so shallow you won't get to

1127
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,600
know people?
And I was like, I don't think

1128
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,680
being picky about wanting to
only sleep with people that

1129
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,960
you're physically attracted to
isn't shallow.

1130
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,800
You're right.
And and so I mean it, it is,

1131
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,960
it's one of those that.
I mean it.

1132
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,960
You you have the right to be
picky and, and, and you know

1133
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,520
people are afraid of rejection.
Well, you don't have to be

1134
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,280
asshole about rejecting people.
No, no, But you're picky because

1135
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,360
you found each other.
So you both had a certain type

1136
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,360
you liked, right?
This has a certain type that

1137
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,000
you're attracted to.
So obviously on the path of you

1138
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,200
finding each other.
Yeah, You were turning down

1139
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,480
people along that path because
again.

1140
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,320
Yeah, you.
Have the right to be picky.

1141
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,800
You're bringing somebody into
your most intimate part of your

1142
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,600
world, right?
You're bringing somebody into

1143
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,560
the most intimate part of your
life, so why not be picky?

1144
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,080
And you don't owe, and I think
so many people when they're new,

1145
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,360
you do not people like, oh, I
get all these messages or people

1146
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,560
reach out.
You don't owe anybody shit.

1147
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:53,800
Like I'm a very kind person.
I'll talk to people and I'm not

1148
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,640
saying I'm going to be rude, but
I do not owe anybody a

1149
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,840
conversation.
My body.

1150
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,200
I don't owe you anything unless
it's like a hell fucking yeah.

1151
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,920
This is going to be super fun.
We don't.

1152
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,840
I don't have to share any part
of myself with you.

1153
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,640
Right.
See, if if Captain Jack showed

1154
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,000
up my front door right now, then
you know, my yeah, yeah, if

1155
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,600
Captain Jack showed up my front
door right now and my wife would

1156
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
be all game, you know, because
it's Captain Jack Sparrow,

1157
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,280
right?
But if Johnny Depp showed up,

1158
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,600
she's like, yeah, I don't think
so.

1159
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,520
Yeah, and that's Eric always
like I'm.

1160
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,920
Not gonna do something.
That's not like a fair trade

1161
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,640
like.
Yeah, I don't want to do

1162
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,520
something to get done with this,
that I did it.

1163
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,640
That's not the whole point of
this lifestyle.

1164
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,440
You know, I want to get done
with it and be like, OK, that is

1165
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,320
hot.
Yeah, yeah, like this is just

1166
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,760
supposed to be hot fun and not
like we don't need a body count.

1167
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,240
Eric and I have been single.
We've slept around, We've done,

1168
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,720
you know, we had fun in our in
college, in college, in our

1169
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,240
younger years.
We're not like just trying to

1170
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,720
get a body count, which some
people in the way Sal are.

1171
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:55,920
Yeah.
Stuff which is fine.

1172
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Yes, but it's definitely like
and you'll find different

1173
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,400
dynamics, but we definitely
don't feel like it's been, it's

1174
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,360
not for us.
It's not that way, but there are

1175
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,680
people, again, who have been
married since together since

1176
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200
high school, have never been
with anybody else.

1177
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,240
We need, you know, people like
that and they're really wanting

1178
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,680
to kind of explore new things,
which is great for them.

1179
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,600
But they'll sometimes you'll see
people just have a little bit,

1180
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,800
they'll just go a little crazy.
Yeah, I can see.

1181
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:35,040
That we meet a lot of.
Oh, we'll save that for another

1182
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,480
show, no?
No, I just found the whole

1183
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,320
thing.
Fascinating.

1184
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,840
I really do.
OK, OK, So impulsiveduo.com is

1185
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,600
where you?
Find it.

1186
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,360
And if you don't, it doesn't
make sense.

1187
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,640
And I think things that don't
make sense can become very

1188
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,160
fascinating.
And then when you hear this

1189
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,440
logical standpoint that is
almost more about connection

1190
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,560
with your partner than it is sex
with others, it almost makes it

1191
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,600
more confused.
Yeah.

1192
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,840
And they're like, wait, that's.
Actually, not that weird.

1193
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,560
Absolutely.
You're like, that actually

1194
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,080
sounds fun.
Maybe we turned people swingers.

1195
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:13,720
That's our goal, is to turn.
Or just make them talk about

1196
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,400
what happens behind closed
doors, you know, have those

1197
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,760
conversations.
Right.

1198
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,920
So one thing you said in the
beginning of the show, which,

1199
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,440
which one thing you said
beginning show, which I was

1200
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,760
fascinated by because Mike and I
have talked about divorce rates

1201
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,920
before.
You know, the average couple is

1202
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,400
married three to five years.
And so they, we had, we had

1203
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Steph Conger.
I don't know if you know who she

1204
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,400
is, but she's a sex therapist,
super cool lady.

1205
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,960
And when you hit that three-year
mark from newlyweds and all of a

1206
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,280
sudden the, the, the newness is
gone.

1207
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,800
So then they spend the next two
years trying to find that

1208
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,280
newness again.
They can't find that newness.

1209
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,680
So they just fight and argue and
blah, blah, blah.

1210
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,000
And then all of a sudden that's
the divorce.

1211
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,080
And so you have, you know,
female couples that get married

1212
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,040
have the highest divorce rate in
the country, which is ironic.

1213
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,960
Then you have the couples, the
male female couples have their

1214
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,720
divorce rate.
But you've made reference that

1215
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,560
that people in this lifestyle,
the divorce rates a lot smaller

1216
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,840
than it is.
And that goes back to, I think

1217
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,000
everything we talked about the
communication and sharing and

1218
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,400
openness and being vulnerable
and, and, you know, breaking,

1219
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,120
breaking down those, those taboo
barriers that society has thrown

1220
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,680
upon us our entire lives, Right.
So in your experience in doing

1221
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,520
this, and you weren't across,
when you weren't across couples

1222
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,800
like yourself, it is, are they
all just, it's, I know I can't

1223
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,400
say all, but I'm in the majorium
like happy, healthy, really

1224
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,240
strong relationships, you know,
grounded and in love And, and

1225
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,880
this is just an extension of
fun.

1226
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Is that a good way to ask that
question?

1227
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,360
Some are, some are, I mean, when
you when you meet a volume of

1228
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,760
people, the people who have been
in this lifestyle for a while

1229
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,560
and like we have really good
experiences because one of the

1230
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,760
things we look for is how does
this couple interact with each

1231
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,000
other?
How are they towards each?

1232
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Other they have to be in love
with each other.

1233
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,320
They have.
I don't want a man after me.

1234
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,200
He has to also be very like, is
my wife beautiful?

1235
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,400
Isn't my wife wonderful like
very into each other as well.

1236
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
That's cool.
Huge green flag.

1237
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,840
Yeah, but you do see a lot of
couples that are in this to try

1238
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,520
and fix their, their marriage
or, you know, for whatever

1239
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,920
reason, and you can just tell
the red flags because they're

1240
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,800
not on the same page when you're
talking to them.

1241
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,960
Their their views are very
different of the life.

1242
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,280
And you're like, dude, you guys
have like you obviously need to

1243
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,240
just go sit in a room and
discuss what you guys want.

1244
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,000
Yeah, maybe therapy.
Yeah, we definitely run in a

1245
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,440
few.
Gotcha, gotcha.

1246
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,200
Yeah, this is not a lifestyle
for you.

1247
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,680
People will ask, you know, have
you had play experiences?

1248
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Because this is, this does
happen, you know, play

1249
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,240
experience where a fight breaks
out or a couple starts, you

1250
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,680
know, having issues in the
middle of playing with each

1251
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,760
other.
And we're like, no, this doesn't

1252
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,320
happen with us because we're
really good about who we connect

1253
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,400
with.
Yeah, I mean, we take some time

1254
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,400
to like to get to know people
and even like, for example, I

1255
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,520
mean, I'll be honest, we played
with a couple this weekend and

1256
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,760
they're they've been to some
clubs and they've kind of been

1257
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,520
dabbling in the lifestyle.
But there was their first time

1258
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,120
like full swapping and they're
called newbies.

1259
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,520
People call them newbies and
they're like, how do people who

1260
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,800
have experience feel about
playing with people who are new?

1261
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,520
Because I'm like, you don't know
how you're going to feel about.

1262
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,240
You might think the lifestyle
sounds super great and hot, but.

1263
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,600
Until you see your.
Partner with somebody else, you

1264
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,880
don't know how you're going to
feel.

1265
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,840
And so I think as long as there
is, you can tell if a couple is

1266
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,960
communicating with each other
and they're ready and they're,

1267
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960
you know, they've discussed it
all and they're really open

1268
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,120
about their boundaries.
I don't you can kind of tell,

1269
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,920
but we've definitely met some
couples who there's a lot of

1270
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,520
sneakiness going on and not you
can just tell they're not.

1271
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,640
Yeah, that's.
Not good.

1272
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,000
It's like, why are you?
Doing this so the so the couple

1273
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,800
that you would connect with
would be would be kind of mirror

1274
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,560
your image like they're very
much in love.

1275
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,560
They they know their boundaries.
They understand why they're

1276
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,520
there what they're what they're
there for.

1277
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,680
If anything does happen and
where it happens and how it

1278
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,000
happens, you you see that love
it's like a mirror.

1279
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,960
So you, you, you, you love the
fact they're in love just as

1280
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,800
much as they should love the
fact that you're in love and

1281
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,080
this is just an adventure for
loving people are going to

1282
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,520
share.
Yeah, I don't.

1283
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,440
Want to?
That's a guy who is more into me

1284
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,600
than he is into his wife.
That makes me uncomfortable.

1285
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,040
That makes me uncomfortable for
her, Eric.

1286
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,160
That makes me.
That totally makes.

1287
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Sense that's like weird.
And then even vice versa, I

1288
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,920
mean, there's nothing worse than
where you're playing with the

1289
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,440
wife and she's all into it.
And then you realize that the

1290
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,880
husband's not into it.
You're like, oh, no, Because

1291
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,800
even as a guy that makes you
awkward, you're like, this is

1292
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,280
supposed to be fun for all of
us, you know?

1293
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,320
Right.
Yeah, that would be super.

1294
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,480
Awkward.
That would be awkward, yeah.

1295
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,080
We've definitely met some
couples or like the guy will

1296
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,560
just start sending like me a
bunch of pictures or like like

1297
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,640
when we were in one group chat
and one guy's like, oh, I can't

1298
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,800
wait to do all this stuff to
you.

1299
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,400
Candace and Eric was like, OK,
bro, like my wife doesn't need

1300
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,520
all your Dick pics.
And like it was just like, it's

1301
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,760
just like a red eternal off.
It's like, and also there's a

1302
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,000
lot of people who are really
like, of course, this is about

1303
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,000
sex.
That's what the lifestyle is.

1304
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,960
But when it's like every single
conversation is like immature

1305
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,120
sexual innuendos and let me see
your titties like Teddy Tuesday.

1306
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,960
Like that's just, I'm like, I'm
40 like.

1307
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,880
Right.
We're not in high school anymore

1308
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,640
or junior high.
Like, let's go, let's move on.

1309
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,440
And we run into that a lot.
Maybe ex.

1310
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Well, maturity is sexy, you
know.

1311
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,400
But you know, maturity is sexy.
Right.

1312
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,000
So you just like you're the
wise.

1313
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,640
And some people might like that,
yeah, and they might.

1314
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,800
But we call you call it a vibe
check.

1315
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Like if you're not on the safe
level and you're.

1316
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,920
Not fighting with the people.
Then it's enough.

1317
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:40,680
Live check.
All right, cool.

1318
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,120
So impulse, the impulsiveduo.com
is where you find you guys, Eric

1319
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,440
and Candace.
They're super cool people.

1320
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,400
You can also find them on on
Facebook and and TikTok and

1321
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,000
Instagram.
And are you on Twitter?

1322
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,360
Everything's the impulsive duo.
Unicorn landing.

1323
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,680
Unicorn landing You have a
Unicorn.

1324
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,400
I collect Unicorn things.
You have a Can't tell.

1325
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,080
Yeah, I see that.
So Unicorn Landing is an app.

1326
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,360
It's all about.
I promise.

1327
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,400
Right, no Unicorn Landing is an
app that help.

1328
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,600
Oh, I bet because there's lots
of unicorns.

1329
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,880
So Unicorn landing is an app
that's that's for women by

1330
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,160
women, powered by women.
We lost them.

1331
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,160
They'll come right back there
they are.

1332
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,480
So that's a good app.
If you want to check this

1333
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,400
lifestyle.
I'll go go Unicorn landing on

1334
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,280
the on all the app stores and
again, impulsiveduo.com.

1335
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,000
They will mentor you and they
have a podcast.

1336
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,680
They have all kinds of things to
do on social media.

1337
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,840
It's how I stumbled across them
and just came up on a feed one

1338
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,200
day and I was instantly hooked
just because the dynamic of the

1339
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:39,000
conversation, what you share and
you know, I'm just, I just

1340
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,600
thought it was fascinating,
which is why you're here now,

1341
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,400
which is fantastic.
So go find out, go follow them

1342
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,960
on our social medias and things
like that.

1343
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,640
Go check out their podcast.
You know, you'll learn you'll

1344
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,760
more.
What I've got the most out of

1345
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,680
this thing is it's not just
about sex is about the

1346
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,240
connection, it's about
adventure.

1347
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,640
It's about understanding your
spouse and the communication and

1348
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,720
the boundaries that you set.
And it's just.

1349
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,240
And that's why we call it a
lifestyle.

1350
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,760
With it or not?
Yeah, it's kind of, we call it a

1351
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,680
lifestyle like a lifestyle that
you like.

1352
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,000
It's more than just, like, more
than just swingers.

1353
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,400
It's like, yeah.
And we need people that just go

1354
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,920
to clubs just for the events,
you know, and they don't even do

1355
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280
anything with other people.
That's why, you know, there's an

1356
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,240
app out there too that we, we do
a lot with called upside down

1357
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,600
network.
That is all the lifestyle events

1358
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,080
out there.
So if you travel or if you want

1359
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,920
cruises, because it's one of the
best things to do is, you know,

1360
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,400
when you travel to try and find
what's going on is hard.

1361
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,760
So if you have an app that tells
you that's awesome, but also

1362
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,760
like the best learning you're
ever going to have is going to a

1363
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,480
swinger lifestyle club, not
playing with anyone, just seeing

1364
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,760
what happens.
It's amazing.

1365
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,640
It's not with.
How you feel in the environment?

1366
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,960
You don't have to play.
Yeah, you guys should go to 1.

1367
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,360
You should go to one.
People watch.

1368
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,200
You don't have to touch anyone.
Yeah, just.

1369
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,080
That's just a really fun
experience.

1370
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,360
Yeah.
People are really friendly.

1371
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,560
Yeah.
And just because they're

1372
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,720
friendly doesn't mean they want
to fuck you.

1373
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Yeah, just people.
They mind.

1374
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,560
They mind, but it doesn't
necessarily.

1375
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,040
Mean OK, so so so people
watching at its finest.

1376
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,040
That's awesome.
All right, well, for the

1377
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,000
Christian Mike Strong Chris,
he's Mike again.

1378
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,440
This is the pineapple the
pineapple professor slash

1379
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,960
impulsive duo.
Find them impulsiveduo.com.

1380
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,280
If you are thinking about
suicide or depressed or or just

1381
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,200
not in the right mindset, don't
do anything drastic that's going

1382
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,520
to change somebody else's life
and leave a hole in their heart.

1383
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Go outside and run.
Go journal, go scream in a

1384
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,480
pillow.
Go workout.

1385
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,400
Go find somebody to talk to.
If you can't find somebody to

1386
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,560
talk to, text 988.
Somebody's there to help talk

1387
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,560
you off the Cliff and make sure
you're around tomorrow because

1388
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,040
tomorrow is a better day with
you in it.

1389
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,360
With that being said, I'm Chris,
he's Michael.

1390
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Love you, brother.
Thank you so much, Eric and

1391
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,640
Candace for coming on the show.
You guys were fantastic.

1392
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Thank you anything.
You want to come back on and

1393
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,800
share, share adventures and
things like that.

1394
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,480
We're more than welcome.
You're more than welcome to come

1395
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,080
back and and have another
conversation with it because you

1396
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
guys have been great.
It's like, you know?

1397
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,800
So, so why do you I, I'm really
curious.

1398
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,400
I know that this is a part of
the you guys is a part of the

1399
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,480
podcast.
Now, OK, are we done?

1400
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,440
Are.
We OK, OK, we're still we're

1401
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,480
still alive.
We can stop I.

1402
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,280
Was going to ask you some
questions on suicide stuff

1403
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,280
because I'm always, I'm always a
little intrigued.

1404
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,200
With OK, go ahead.
No go.

1405
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,440
Ahead, something up like that.
I, we had our drummer kill

1406
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,720
myself.
Well, that's where that's where

1407
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,520
our drummer killed himself years
ago.

1408
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,600
I had a, a friend of mine about
a year ago kill himself.

1409
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,040
It's it's one of those things
that that I kind of think, and

1410
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,240
I'm thinking Mike's on the same
page.

1411
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Suicide as a carriage way out.
There's there's you don't if you

1412
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,000
if you don't talk, you can't
solve the problem.

1413
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:40,080
So by, you know, hiding your,
your, your concerns and not, not

1414
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,640
not talking about what you
struggles with.

1415
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,040
It's just to me, it sucks
because you do you truly live a

1416
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,240
hole in someone That's as hard.
Our our drummer left three kids

1417
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,280
behind, you know, and they have
to go their entire life without

1418
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,840
a father because he decided to
take his own life because he was

1419
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,240
struggling.
So which is something we.

1420
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,480
Suffer the people that are left
behind for sure.

1421
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,720
Yeah, the, the reason it started
in the show like that was, was

1422
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,120
an Amish just was an Amish to
Scott.

1423
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,760
OK.
Oh, there you go.

1424
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,160
That's awesome.
So, yeah.

1425
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480
So we, yeah, we did it as a
yeah, we did it.

1426
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,800
We do it as a, as a, as, as just
because it affected Mike and I's

1427
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,520
band and, and it's, it's
something that we knew and we,

1428
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,200
oh, I love that when you're in a
band.

1429
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,000
Well, we can.
Finish the conversation.

1430
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,040
After, but Eric can tell you
about his other yeah, his other

1431
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,360
stuff.
Yeah, but when you when you.

1432
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,080
Yeah, but when it's when when
you're in a band, it's it's like

1433
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,880
a marriage, but you're married
to everybody in the band.

1434
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,400
And the time you Sharon stage,
you never get back, right.

1435
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,840
So that connection is deeper
than it's there till the day you

1436
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,440
die.
Like you could walk up to

1437
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,800
somebody that you haven't you
haven't seen in 30 years, but

1438
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,880
you're in a band together in
your instant, you know, because

1439
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,440
you shared time on stage and you
shared time in front of people

1440
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,440
and making music and making joy.
And so that's how that all

1441
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:53,560
evolved.
That's how it all started.

1442
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,000
So.
No, that's great.

1443
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:56,840
You can send us.
We can.

1444
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,440
Wait till we're off the air.
I mean, we can talk on the air

1445
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,560
too, but.
Yeah, because most people don't

1446
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:15,160
like.
The place where you will go

1447
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:28,279
behind your eyes.
Take a moment.

1448
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:40,319
Yeah, fight the battle.
That's too far.

1449
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,800
As we are.
Fight the battle, but too far.

1450
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,920
Queer.
Who is his baby to your feet?

1451
01:08:53,680 --> 01:09:02,000
Oh, yeah.
Oh, this is too young.

1452
01:09:59,370 --> 01:10:11,580
Come down here, you haven't
found out.

1453
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:15,660
It'll see your sands from
fighting.

1454
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,100
Wait for the dead.
We.

1455
01:10:19,460 --> 01:10:23,660
Can exposure out here?
For the wind you ain't no

1456
01:10:23,740 --> 01:10:28,880
creature we're playing.
Found you took your grin on the

1457
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,360
almighty man.
You got a dream.

1458
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:40,240
Who in your life to keep our
soul in every man?

1459
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:46,840
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul evolution now.

1460
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:55,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1461
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,400
Take a moment.
Look at you.

1462
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,960
See it?
Fight the bail into your mouth.

1463
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:03,840
Clear.
You

1464
01:11:22,510 --> 01:11:34,210
gotta, You gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.

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