#181 - Jensen Buck - Songwriter/Musician

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Oh, did that take that took that
fucking thing.

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Oh, I got to do it again.
That didn't work.

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Rock'n'roll, fellas.
Rock and.

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Roll face, I'm going to kill
you.

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Oh.
Where are you now?

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It's like a spinal chat moment
in a podcast.

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I love it.
Right.

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There you go.
So boys and girls, welcome to

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the Chris and Mike show.
He's Mike.

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I'm Chris.
This is Jensen Buck and a

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Welcome, Jensen.
Thanks for coming on, brother.

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This time you guys.
I'm just going to dive right

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into your website because I
think it's when I scrolled to

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it, I was like, I was like,
that's brilliant right there.

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This like right there.
Let's get bucked up, man.

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Bucked up.
You got to have you got to have

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shirts.
I love that.

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Say you want to get bucked.
Brilliant.

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Yeah.
You want to get them bucked?

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Yeah, Yeah, you got cool.
We've got them to say I've been

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bucked.
OK, cool.

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Right on, I like.
Right on if you.

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If you send Mike and I.
You need that one.

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Too on the show.
Yeah, yeah.

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You got it.
Yeah, you got it.

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Absolutely.
That's.

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Awesome.
Right on, man.

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So Jensen, Buck, give us a
little bit just the kind of an

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elevator spiel, who you are so
we can start plugging the hell

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out of all the things that you
do.

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No.
What's that?

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No pressure.
Give us a little elevator speech

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of who you are, what you're all
about, so we can start plugging

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and having a conversation with
you.

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Oh.
Man, so let's see Wyoming,

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Idaho.
And I've been playing music all

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my life and then kind of just
spent a lot of quit music for a

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while when I started having kids
and became an underwater welder

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and a marine biologist and
travelled the world and then

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decided I was going to come back
to music probably about 14-12

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years, 1213 years ago.
And been doing it ever since.

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Since then, it would just been a
climb.

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OK, rewind to the short version
of or however long you want to

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talk about being a marine
biologist and an underwater

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welder and touring the.
World, I can, I please, I can

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sit and I can sit and talk about
that all day long.

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You know what I mean?
Like, so we want to promote your

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music, man.
But I got to hear about this

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just a little bit for sure.
What do you want to know?

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How did you how did that?
Happen.

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You were a You were a musician.
How did you go from a musician

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to an underwater welder?
Marine Biologist.

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That's quite a transition.
So I was playing in a band and I

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and I just cover band and then I
started Jensen Buck.

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I went out on my own and do my
own thing.

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And the guys, I was working a
construction job and I was a

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crew chief and worked with other
people and I was learning to be

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a welder.
And then dude, I kind of topped

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out and it was just just a
grind, you know, and I went to,

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I went to the bathroom and was
reading welder's journal and I

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saw this thing about become an
underwater welder.

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And I, I started having kids and
I was like, man, I need to make

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some real.
Like I was really, it was about

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money and like the future of my
children.

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I was at a crossroads and I had
dropped out of school to work.

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And so I ended up getting my
GED.

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So like I was just trying to
figure life out and I saw that.

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And so I went to apply and I got
in and I went to California and

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it just started snowballing from
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Every course they had.
Like so when I left music and

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all the life I knew I just said,
OK, So I immersed myself into

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diving.
So I became an Med tech.

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I became a certified underwater
welder.

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And there's only like probably
5000 of us that are like really

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certified in the in the world.
And I'm one of them.

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Wow.
And then it's an outdated trade,

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though.
Like there's so many smart

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flanges up, but it's rad to
like, have that title, but you

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know what I mean?
Like, there's so many safer ways

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of getting stuff done now and
then.

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Yeah, like.
Drop like drop like dropping a

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robot into the water.
And it just goes, no robot,

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robot can't do what we do.
But but yes, there's, there's

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smart flanges and like you can
cut things and bring them

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together much more effectively
than like put it to putting it

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together underwater or wrapping
a habitat around it.

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And then you go into it like a
like a submarine.

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And then you drain all the water
out.

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And then you're in there working
and you just have to leave your

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hat on because you got your own
O2.

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So you don't get any of the
gases.

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But it's extremely dangerous.
And you made, so you made some,

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some nice little guacamole doing
that, right?

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We did, we did all right, life
was OK for for some time and it

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was hit and miss.
It was seasonal job too, though.

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So like getting out a crew that
was working.

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And so my goal was to get into
SAT when I did it.

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So that's like the big boy dive.
That's, that's 1000 feet or

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more, anywhere from like 600 to,
you know, 1000 feet or more and

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you're, and you're stored there
for a month.

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And so I was able, I at the end
of my career, I was able to get

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in and do some of it.
I did some ride outs with them

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from guys that got hurt.
And so I'd spend like 4 days in

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the chamber with them and ride
them out, make sure they're OK

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because I was Med tech.
And so I just, it was awesome.

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I mean, it was right where I was
at.

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But then the BP spill happened
and that the next like 3 years

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was kind of like the writing was
on the wall for me that I'd like

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that was, it was getting harder
and harder and more political to

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dive to work.
And so I started working abroad

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and it was just, I love that.
And I, I wish I would have been

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able to keep going, but like
life just kind of happened.

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And then when it did, I, I came
inland, did some inland diving

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for a while and that just
sucked.

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And then at the time I would, I
had a radio show called Red Rock

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Jams and I was down in St.
George, UT Yeah, we had a, we

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had a house in New Orleans, Utah
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And so I was in the at the Saint
George house and my my show was

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all about music and I'd paired
guys together that were like a

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Blues player and a metal player
and I'd make him play together.

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And then we'd explain that's
awesome audience why it made

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sense.
And, and then we'd interview the

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guys individually and it was
just kind of a cool, fun thing

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for me to do and give back.
And then it just kind of I did

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AI did a breast cancer benefit
because of that show.

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And then that that that was it.
That was kind of I I dove for

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like another year, but I start
taking gigs and like building

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Jensen Buck back up and yeah,
here we are.

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What's?
What's the craziest place you

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ever dove?
Man, South America was pretty

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rad.
We dove in the Amazon.

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Wow.
I dove in the red.

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I dove in the Red Sea.
We're in the coast of Africa,

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down in the southern tip of
Africa.

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We dove in China but the Red Sea
was probably the craziest just

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because it's third world.
It's it's first world buildings

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with third wheel world ideology.
Like they still weird do use

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whale oil for lamps over there.
No shit.

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Wow.
Oh yeah, it's crazy.

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And so we were actually, I was
actually witnessed A harpooning.

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Like it was crazy.
Like that whale hung out by our

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platform forever.
And then they finally just said,

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fuck it, I'm coming in.
And like, or I mean, they were

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like little shanties with
outboard motors on there.

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And they came in and they
harpooned it.

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And then like this giant boat
that like was actually a

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commercial boat that like you
would see in Alaska, like

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anywhere and loaded down a
tailgate and they brought that

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sucker up.
And you just watch these guys

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hack at it.
And like, for me as a marine

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biologist, it broke my heart.
For me as a hunter and from

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Wyoming and Idaho, I get like,
it's just, that's what they do,

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you know what I mean?
Like, and I'm so I, I didn't

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really have much to say, but we
were them getting to the whale

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was hard for them because we
were throwing shackles and like

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makeshift Spears and all sorts
of stuff at these guys.

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Wow.
It was crazy.

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Yeah, it was.
That was that was a crazy time

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because I ended up leaving.
I did.

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I extended my hitch.
I was supposed to be there for

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four months.
I end up staying for seven and I

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was planning on being there for
9 straight just for, you know,

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take the tax breaks and all the
other stuff.

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I got heat stroke.
It was 130° on the deck.

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Oh yeah, Oh my.
God and I, I and I work the

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night shifts.
So we were, I, I passed out at

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night when we were doing
groceries one time and that was

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the big I got heat stroke like 3
more times and I broke, I

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cracked my neck about 5 months
in so I couldn't feel my hands.

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And so like once, once I
couldn't feel my hands anymore,

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they said it was time to go.
And like, I came back and it was

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a broken vertebrate and they're
in.

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Ouch.
Yeah, wow, man, that's crazy.

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So you would literally have
been.

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All over the world.
That's like a total life resume

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in like in like 12 minutes, man.
You could just you can be done

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now.
You can go, you know, you're

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fucking that's amazing.
Just absolutely amazing man.

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Yeah, he's diving in the Red
Sea, hanging out in China,

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cruising down to the Amazon.
You, you literally did your

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world tour, just in a different
way.

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Oh totally, and that's.
So that's what actually kind of

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started me thinking about
playing abroad.

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I I was playing a bar in guitar
and this like rich chic.

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I don't know what it was.
Anyways, we went and partied at

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this huge castle mansion thing.
I don't know, it was just giant

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and like bunch of divers and me
and freaking a bunch of girls

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and we just partied our asses
off with this guy that but I I

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played this, I played guitar at
this karaoke bar and he's like,

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I love it.
You got playing with us.

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And I'm like, OK, like, you
know, that's what that alcoholic

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plays.
He's like, don't worry about it.

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I was like, OK, it was fun.
That's.

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Awesome.
You come play guitar for me.

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You come to my house and play
for me.

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I got money, I got money, I got
booze.

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You come putting women.
Anything about putting all the

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women I should have made?
Playing but I just want to party

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with a bunch of people in the
Middle East when you're not

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because the only place you can
do that is to buy and then you

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got to everywhere else is
illegal you chop your hands off

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or kill you so it's.
Nothing.

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That's kind of a bummer.
I know, right?

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For sure.
So there's that.

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So now let's talk about So how
long have you been back in

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music?
Been about 1313 or so years.

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So I so I about 20, 2020 Oh man
20/13/2015 is at the at the area

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where I I dove, but I was
playing gigs.

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I started playing like doing
cafes, doing small stuff, just

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playing solo and we end up
getting a festival.

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I got a group together and like
just, you know, put it, put the

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whole, I pretty much just put
the band back in line that

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playing the music that I played
before I became a diver and it's

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just like it stopped and then I
I unfroze it.

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So then I what is this?
This is why.

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I went on your events man, but
it's it's from 2024, so I'm.

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Assuming yeah, no.
So I've been I've been out for a

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little while.
I.

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OK.
OK, I've been playing

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foundation.
I came out here to Nashville, so

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24.
We played few few shows solo.

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When I came to Nashville.
I got Nashville about 20-3 and

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then we started working on
getting back to the big stuff

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and so we went to Puerto Rico,
played it, played it.

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My buddy Caddy Caddy's Calypso
out there in Puerto Rico and

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Rincon, He was, what's his name,
Kenny Chesney's manager and did

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some Zac Brown stuff.
Good dude.

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Rad had me come out and like put
me in the wife up for the week

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for our anniversary.
It's super red.

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It was red and.
But yeah, came back to music and

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I moved up to Idaho and I just
made the decision that we're

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going to start doing it right.
I got a new, new lineup and then

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I wrote a or my my neighbor came
over to me and he's like,

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there's a songwriting
competition.

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And I'm like, you know, yeah,
you know, I'm not into the

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American Idol.
So like in 2020, So in 2014 that

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one of my friends out there in
Utah is like, hey, you want to

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get on America's Got Talent?
And I was like, yeah, I mean,

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maybe.
And then I started looking at

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the whole thing and like, it's
just so all these things are

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are, are are worked out ahead of
time.

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Like, you know, they already
know who's going to be in the

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end of the episode, you know
what I mean?

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Like a. 100%.
So it's like I was pretty much

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like buffered through and I
would, I would, I would have a

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chance to get through to the
finals, but like they would I, I

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was guaranteed halfway through
and I was like, this is silly.

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But when he came to me with the
thumb riding thing, I was like,

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you know what, man, that's I'm
into that because that's my

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crap, you know what I mean?
Like, and so we did that 2016 we

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won and then we did it 2017 we
won again.

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And that opened the door to just
everything, man.

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Like, yeah, the Knitting Factory
called me.

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House of Blues would call me,
you know, the Idol Center called

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me.
The radio stations call and just

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push and push and push.
And it was just rad.

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And like, I got to play with all
of my idols. 20, I think 2018,

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it was just there was the end of
July to September was just

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fucking nuts.
It was sober.

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It was sober I got to play with.
So it's like my first call was

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Cadillac three.
No Lydia Lovelace and I busted

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this down to some the Neurolux
out there in Idaho, which is

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like a subsidiary of the
Knitting Factory kind of thing.

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And then it just dude, it just
starts snowballing that it was

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red Cadillac three.
They they were they're probably

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like, other than like Neil McCoy
were one of the only guys I

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played with that were like,
dude, thanks for coming out and

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you're fucking rat.
You know what I mean?

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Like so cool.
That's awesome.

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Handshake.
Drink beer together.

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Yeah, yeah, that's very cool.
Yeah, man.

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So how'd you get hooked up with
Bruce and Velochita?

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Dave Nudo Yeah, I was just.
Going to ask you if you knew

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Dave Nudo when you knew that you
were from Idaho?

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Dave went they're re recording
the Lord and the devil because

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we told him to.
Just I, I heard that on your

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podcast, so County line, I we
loved Dave, one of the producers

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on County Line.
Oh no shit.

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Yeah, I know he came in.
So he came in the song.

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My buddy Greg, Greg Goodell had
a studio.

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We were part of it at the time.
He he was just kind of helping

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me out because I was figuring
out my life at that point.

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That's right.
When I got to Idaho and you came

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in and I'm on, me and Greg are
on the album.

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Like some of those songs we hear
everybody Hooper and holler in

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and like.
Yeah.

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Now that you, my boy, go back
and listen that album.

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You okay?
Cool.

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That's cool, Dave.
Daves good.

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Daves good people, man.
Yeah, you went back on the show.

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Like when he was doing that,
that's when I was in my height.

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And so he would always ask me
questions and like, how do I do

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this?
And like, yeah, I mean, without

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giving away all the recipe, you
know, for you, sure.

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But him, I was just like, dude,
I love you, man.

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But if you look at pictures of
me at that point and him at that

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point, and then him now and me
now, he's like his, he crawled

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on stage one time.
He's like, I'm the real Jensen

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Buck.
I'm just so fucking mad.

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And then he gets.
On my foot I love.

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My foot again, I was so no.
And then I showed up to one of

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his gigs and did the same thing
and it freaking made it.

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It didn't go over like it went
over for him, 'cause I'm just

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waiting.
I was, Oh yeah, I was not a hand

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knight, so I love that.
Guy we do too.

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When we get him on, we should
tell him.

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We should not tell him and just
have you come in like 5 minutes

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into the show.
Do it.

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Absolutely.
That would be an awesome.

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That's No 100.
Percent.

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I didn't.
I didn't.

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I didn't know the ties was
there, but now that's cool.

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Man, that's very cool.
He's out there in Cambridge,

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Idaho.
He's in Boise now and him like

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we're really intertwined, like
we've been friends for about

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since about 2817 and right on
him and I, you know, I, I went

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through some real hard times and
like had a had a cancer scare,

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broke my foot, had a lot of
stuff go on and health wise,

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mentally, I was just nodded.
I was partying freaking crazy

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during 2020.
He was on my radio.

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He was on, I did a, you know,
the house party radio show

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casting for and he was, he was a
guest and like he'd come party.

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With us and.
Right on.

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Yeah, he's been he's been a
really good friend and like he's

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called me and some of my darkest
times when like I didn't think I

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would ever hear from anybody.
I just get a random how you

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doing?
And that's that's what I love

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about that guy.
He's just really kind of above

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the he's.
Genuine.

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He's genuine, yeah.
He's genuine.

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Human.
Yeah, 'cause I 'cause I'll, I

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have a shit roll up on playlists
in my truck when I drive around

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doing my thing and, and
something will come up and I'll

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just screenshot it and send him,
send him a picture and he just

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hearts it.
He's like, thanks, man.

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He's just, that's what we,
that's why Mike and I liked him

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because it was there, there was
no ego.

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It was just Mike and I have been
the rock'n'roll lifestyle, been

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there, done that, all kind of
jazz.

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So we respect the fact when we
can talk to musicians because

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we're musicians at heart that
are just, they're just cool.

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They're just, you can have that.
You can riff a conversation for

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an hour and it seems like 5
minutes.

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That's the coolest thing.
About what?

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You know somebody is genuine
when they come on here like you

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did, and you just start talking,
right?

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It's like, here's who I am,
here's what I do.

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You can like it or not like it,
right?

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You can feel that it's it.
Like Chris said, the word

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genuine isn't a big enough word,
but that's the best one we got

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right now.
Yeah, well, it's I, I found

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myself being a little bit too
genuine and it definitely bit me

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in the ass.
So Dave, I was like, Dave, let's

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put some do this stuff together.
And I'm like, he's all I, I

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don't know if these guys will
hire you anymore, man.

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I, I would go up and party my
ass off and I'd get everybody

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fucked up with the crowd.
And like, I just, I was living

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that life, man.
That was the last out, you know,

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freaking just and I didn't give
a shit.

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I think more than anything what
we're saying is we've had

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instances where they're too
good, right?

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Oh yeah.
You know, that attitude, I think

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more than anything is what he's
alluding to.

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You can just feel that I'm doing
what I'm doing out here and I'm

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happy to have the opportunity to
do it.

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And, you know, we didn't know
Dave was that talented.

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We didn't know that you had this
huge life, life's resume before

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you came on here.
You.

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Know it just.
There's certain people that you

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meet, it's like, wow, you know,
Lemoyne comes to mind.

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Chris was like, wow, you got
some serious hardware behind

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you.
You know, the guy's got a

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platinum album hanging behind
him, and he's talking to us.

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And then we've had other people
say.

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Right.
Hey, well, you know, we're not

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going to waste our time.
We got other opportunities.

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Right, that are not that are
that have never even reached the

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a peak right and and you have
Lemoyne Alexander.

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Again, 90s rap.
He was associated with

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everything in 90s rap from a
producer standpoint.

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Everything.
Right, like.

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He had the opportunity to go
work with Prince and he just sat

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back after thinking about it.
He's like, I can't do that

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because what I think of Prince
is here and if I go there,

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what's that going to do to that?
I mean, that's right.

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That's the thing.
A genuine human, somebody who,

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who, who.
It wasn't boasting and and

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gloating.
It was.

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No, he admitted.
I was not afraid to meet my.

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Eyes, right?
That's because.

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He didn't want to ruin that.
That's what that man meant.

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In Heroes.
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, there was.

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There was something I saw not
too long ago.

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Who the fuck was it?
Christian?

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It was a Christian Bale.
He was talking in his weird

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Scottish accent that he has his
natural tongue as some, and he's

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like, you don't want to meet me.
And the reporter's like what?

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He's like, you don't want to
meet me.

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If, if, if, if I'm somebody that
you love and you admire and I'm

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you idolize, you don't want to
meet me because I'm not going

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to, I'm not going to hold up to
what you think I am.

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Exactly.
He's like, just just watch,

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basically just saying just watch
the shit and be a fan.

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But if you meet me, I'm going to
destroy your, your opinion of me

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because I'm just this punk ass
dude that's lucky enough to do

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this for a living.
I thought that.

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I thought that was brilliant
too, you know, And we all put

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our pants on the same way.
I think that that that's what

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separates like the guys that
really make it.

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I mean, I'm sure there there's
guys out there that are just

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complete douchebags.
But like, sure, the humanity of

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it and the like the humbleness
that you get from being a part

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of something rad like I like, I
love being able to like there's

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nothing better than sitting in
front of 10,000 people.

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Thank you and be able to control
everybody's emotion.

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But at the same time, to be able
to go back to your merge booth

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and you hang out for I, I hung
out till it was empty and just

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took everybody's hand and like
the amount of people that wrote

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me afterwards and were just
like, hey, man, I just want to

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say song 4 of blah, blah blah,
sent whatever town.

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I just want you to know that was
awesome.

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And or like something like that.
It's like, that is so cool.

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You.
Know I'm freaking like I'm glad

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I'm the rule in the band for is
well there was 2 hydra booze

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hydra women was the first one
for early and like we're leaving

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them we're going to leave them
better than when we got here and

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that was kind of before we
before we got on stage.

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I'd tell the guys, you know,
leave it all here, you know,

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just do, do the best you can and
just have fun.

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And yeah, that's the more that
and like let it go and just

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enjoyed just what we were doing
in like, man, there were times

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that like I would I so I'd have
like 3 different guitar players,

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three different bass players, 2
drummers, a couple keyboardists,

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you know, and different guys all
the way through the time when we

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were touring.
So I would mix.

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It was like a basketball coach.
I got my B squad, my A squad, my

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C squad, and then it would mix
and match.

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00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000
But sometimes I'd get these guys
together and I would sit back

445
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,360
and just watch the fucking show
that I was like, oh, I'm like,

446
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080
oh, I'm supposed to see.
Yeah.

447
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,360
Oh yeah, It was freaking
awesome.

448
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,040
I loved it.
So I think it's I think that

449
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:17,520
it's if you can have that love
for your crafts, it makes the

450
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,600
experience meeting you and being
a part and just all of it more

451
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,880
real for everyone involved and
just a little less orchestrated

452
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,200
guy like you scripted, you know,
I mean, yeah.

453
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040
I I think we might have lost
Chris, he said.

454
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,320
He was having connection.
Issues.

455
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,880
He is just just looking handsome
right there, frozen.

456
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,120
I don't want to lose your train
of thought, though, that I love

457
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,800
what you said about just having
fun.

458
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,080
We knew that we needed each
other in that band, right?

459
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,640
I wasn't a singer, Scott wasn't
a guitar player.

460
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Rick wasn't A and while Rick
could play guitar and bass, but

461
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,440
he wasn't a drummer, you know?
We knew that we needed that

462
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,160
persons talent to make what
happened on stage happen, right?

463
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Right.
I feel like you just said that,

464
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200
just in a different way, right?
Have respect for the other

465
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,320
people.
We might make mistakes, but who

466
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,480
the fuck cares right?
Most of the time, the guy that

467
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040
taught me to play guitar, he
said once is a mistake, twice as

468
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,760
jazz, right?
Just as a funny, but really what

469
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,120
he what he said Jensen was if
you make a mistake, do it again

470
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,920
with authority because most of
the time it's going to be

471
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800
something golden.
What's up, buddy?

472
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,720
Hey, welcome back.
Welcome back.

473
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480
Fucking Internet.
Fucking Internet.

474
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,480
I was worried about my
connection.

475
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,000
No, I dude, I have Cox and I
have Starlink and I can't tell

476
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000
you that.
Just the bullshit that I deal

477
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280
with with this sometimes it's
just mind boggling.

478
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480
I'm sorry, the three, three-year
old in me just wants to giggle

479
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,360
when you said you got Cox.
I know, I know, right?

480
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200
You know dude, true story.
When I used to write them

481
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,560
checks, because you had to write
checks back in the day, I would

482
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,200
spell it with COCKS and they
would cash every one of them.

483
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,960
Every single one.
That's right.

484
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Yeah, and I did.
It because I, I'm in real

485
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,160
estate.
So it was like my first year

486
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,200
real estate and I had AI had
like a good closing.

487
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720
I'm like, Oh, I can just write a
check for, for Cox

488
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,440
Communications for the year.
So I wrote it at CLX and then

489
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
like a month later they sent me
a late payment like you're,

490
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,560
you're 30 days behind.
I'm like, how am I 30 days

491
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,920
behind?
I prepaid you for the year and

492
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,320
then I get the check back in the
mail.

493
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,200
So that's when I started writing
it to the spelling at the

494
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920
traditional way that God
intended it.

495
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,400
That's funny.
Yeah.

496
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,800
Before, before you came back, we
were talking about enjoying

497
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480
yourself and screwing up on
stage and all that stuff.

498
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Well, I heard, I heard some of
it.

499
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200
I was just, I was frozen, but I
could still hear you so.

500
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Oh, you could hear it.
Yeah, I could hear some of this

501
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,600
stuff.
But on that, so like I always

502
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720
tell my guys, like if you screw
up, no, nobody ever knows you

503
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,000
screwed up on stage.
A OK 2 two reasons.

504
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040
If it's if it was on the album
and they know the thong and it's

505
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,360
a lead that's really memorable,
sure.

506
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Or a.
Super.

507
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Fan, right?
Super fan.

508
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,640
Yeah, or, or if you make a face.
If you don't make a face, fuck

509
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760
up.
That's another one he knows.

510
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Right poker face.
Right, right.

511
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,120
Exactly, that's why that guy
said do it again with authority,

512
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,440
right?
Like you're meant to do it.

513
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,240
Like.
Most of the time, those moments,

514
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,600
they're golden.
Right, right.

515
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,400
And guitar players can make all
the faces they want, because

516
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280
guitar players make faces when
they play guitar.

517
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600
You know, that's true.
The Blues face.

518
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,800
Yeah.
Or the bass face.

519
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Oh, yeah.
Love it you.

520
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,920
Know it just happens.
Where if I make?

521
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,240
There's nothing you can do.
And if a singer makes a face,

522
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,600
people think you're having a
seizure.

523
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Wait, what's wrong with him?
Is that guy OK?

524
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Unless you're a black.
Blues player, you can do

525
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,480
whatever you.
Want right?

526
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,840
Correct.
Yeah, they have.

527
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,520
They have a free ticket, you
know.

528
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480
It's very good.
Like from the faces that the guy

529
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:55,720
that does the cover of the Ozzy
Osbourne song, didn't it do Oh,

530
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,160
youngblood, youngblood,
youngblood changes dude, that

531
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,400
guy, Oh my God.
I got I did a deep dive into him

532
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,680
and that guy's got some amazing
Blues faces.

533
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,000
I'm just like.
Absolutely.

534
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Well and and Sharon Osbourne
made Youngblood a household

535
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,280
name.
He wasn't, he wasn't.

536
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,560
He wasn't really anything until
they did the the whatever they

537
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,720
called that last show they did
with Black Sabbath.

538
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,480
Yeah.
They pulled him up on, they

539
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,600
pulled him because apparently he
knows Ozzy because, you know,

540
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,120
England and stuff.
But the young blood wasn't

541
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,600
really relevant to the United
States until that, that tribute

542
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,880
concert to Ozzy.
That's true story.

543
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,360
And so, yeah.
And then Changes won the Grammy

544
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,520
for best live Performance,
which, oh, it should have.

545
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
That thing's phenomenal.
And I bought, I'm that guy that

546
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
buys the entire album on iTunes.
I just don't buy a song.

547
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,000
So I've listened to his record
probably, I don't know, 1520

548
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Times Now.
It is top to bottom.

549
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,360
It's it's, it grows on you.
But that's how good music should

550
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:52,960
be.
If you if you love it right out

551
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,800
the gate, it's like, OK, this is
a flashing pan, but his stuff,

552
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,360
it's, it's grown on me to the
fact that it's, it's deeper than

553
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,520
people think he is.
But yeah, he's, he's who he is

554
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,960
now because of Sharon Osbourne.
That's Sharon Osbourne's touch,

555
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,920
like you're going to go do this
song and that's.

556
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,840
It I made a lot of bands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

557
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,360
So that just shows that just
shows you the power of one

558
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,040
person.
That's all he needed.

559
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,720
Because without that, he
wouldn't be a, he wouldn't be a

560
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520
topic right now.
It's true if we're talking

561
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,280
about.
Right now.

562
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,600
Right, right.
But yeah, he did a hell of a

563
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,080
performance with that.
Just phenomenal.

564
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Oh God, it was good.
But like, it was that

565
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,480
performance that made me like,
OK, let's see what else this guy

566
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,240
has.
Right.

567
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,560
I wish they would have used him
instead of Post Malone when they

568
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640
did the other tribute Contra,
because I I wasn't.

569
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,520
I was like Post Malone.
Fucking really.

570
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Like, really?
You know what, man, here's the

571
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840
thing.
I freaking so I was there's this

572
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:52,080
place called the Revolution out
in Utah and Neil from what's

573
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:59,480
that band Royal Bliss and he so
the owners of the venue wanted

574
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Neil from Royal Bliss, me and
Post Malone and I, I just, I was

575
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,080
like, I don't know who post
alone is this is back in like

576
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,760
20, 2020 like that.
He was a superstar, but I didn't

577
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,040
know who he was.
And so I I've got girls and so

578
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880
kind of the rule of the house is
you got a face neck tattoo.

579
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,880
You don't bring him fucking
home.

580
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Please.
I'm just that guy.

581
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520
But here's the deal.
I freaking saw that picture.

582
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440
I'm like, this will never work.
Make sense.

583
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,920
And then I listen to his music
and I felt like such a piece of

584
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,160
shit.
I did, dude.

585
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,480
I judged.
I totally judged.

586
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520
And I was just like, that was
such a stupid idea.

587
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,320
And then I really like changed
the way I view like everybody in

588
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600
the world now, Like, because
like, who the fuck that?

589
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720
I mean, I don't do anything.
Yeah, see, it's not that I don't

590
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,160
like the guy.
I like his his, his sobriety

591
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,880
record, his recovery record.
I like a lot of what he writes,

592
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,160
but I just don't think he was
the right person for tribute.

593
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Tribute to Ozzy because he's
only been around, you know, for

594
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,920
6-7 years from a high level.
Like there's so many people that

595
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,400
Ozzy touched and they.
Won't listen to that after you

596
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,880
said something because when
Chris gets that passionate about

597
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,240
not liking something so much, I
got to know what it means to me.

598
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,840
I'm going to say I'm
indifferent, right?

599
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Because the one thing that I'll
agree with Jensen on, and I know

600
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,240
you agree with this too, but
he's so talented outside of that

601
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,760
performance.
Right, dude, that guy's fucking

602
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120
amazing.
And he didn't do a bad job job.

603
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,400
So I have to go with I'm
indifferent, right?

604
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520
It didn't bother me, but it
didn't blow me away either.

605
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000
But that's when it comes to the
word Ozzy.

606
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160
I agree with Chris.
It should be held to a higher

607
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,320
standard.
You should be blown.

608
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Away.
That's all.

609
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120
That's where I'm going to.
That's all I'm saying about that

610
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,440
for.
Sure.

611
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Yeah, It's like not like it's
that's a hard, that's a hard ass

612
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840
because like not all of them
are, you know what I mean?

613
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,440
Like it could've.
Been Steven Tyler.

614
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,520
Dude, you're what?
Chris.

615
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Was saying.
Right.

616
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,720
And then like.
But that's so that's.

617
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,840
James Hetfield, do it right.
See.

618
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,200
See.
There we go.

619
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440
See there.
We go see.

620
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Anybody, anybody else other than
Youngblood doing changes like

621
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160
that, I don't think would have
worked because if you think

622
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,320
about the musicians.
I agree.

623
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,040
That's one of the most brilliant
performances I've ever.

624
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,640
It's beautiful.
Yeah, I agree with that too.

625
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400
So I agree with that.
There's so many other voices

626
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,560
that are in the rock world
because of Ozzy.

627
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720
I just think that Sharon should
have Sharon.

628
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,520
If you call me back, we can have
this conversation.

629
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Yeah, you're welcome on the.
Show I just think there feel

630
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,200
like.
You're not.

631
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,480
Welcome.
I just think there's so many

632
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
other, so many other musicians
that would have.

633
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Christmas got put on the map by
Sharon Television.

634
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Yes, it would be fantastic.
How many how many hits on

635
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,720
YouTube?
Do you have?

636
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,120
You can't get publicity like
that, that's why.

637
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,160
You can't.
How did you get, how did you get

638
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640
3 billion views?
Sharon told us.

639
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,160
Go fuck right?
Exactly.

640
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,600
No, we are.
Thank you, Sharon.

641
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,040
You know, that's all my point is
just we'll fuck ourselves.

642
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Yeah, There's there's so many
other musicians, I think that

643
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,080
just could have filled that
space.

644
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,680
You know?
I agree.

645
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,000
That's just me.
That's just me.

646
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680
But it was I.
Think the respect thing alone.

647
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Yeah, you know?
Yeah.

648
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Respect that name, man.
There's nobody that is more

649
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,080
responsible for all the things
that we know and love as Hard

650
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Rock music than that man.
Bro, he picked up Zach Wilde.

651
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,760
So I have Zach Wylde's original,
not the original original, but a

652
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,920
copy of the original demo he
gave to he gave to Yeah, it was

653
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,720
to Randy Rd.
Yeah, a classical piece.

654
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,880
And dude, that classical piece
was sick.

655
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,640
And then what is now Book of
Shadows, one really awesome one

656
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,960
of one of the one of the song, I
forget which one it was, but

657
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,040
like, dude, that guy.
Can you imagine an 18 years old

658
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,920
filling Randy Rose's shoes in
front of Sharon and Ozzy and.

659
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Jakey Lee Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jake.

660
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Jake was a.
Bad still is a bad motherfucker.

661
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,480
Wait, like it's so like Zach,
Zach wild to me is like hands

662
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,080
down, he's my favorite musician
ever.

663
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Just like as far as he's what
he's what made well, he's what

664
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,360
made Jensen Buck, Jensen Buck.
Because originally this was

665
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Garth Brooks meets Creed kind of
thing, and now it's more Chris

666
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Stapleton meets Bob Marley or
Sublime, OK?

667
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,280
OK, OK.
That's cool.

668
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,240
But yeah, I mean, I had that
wild rocker biker shit going on,

669
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160
but I but I love about I'm a I'm
a sucker for a song that

670
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,800
freaking like dude, man, rip
your heart out.

671
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,720
Like, yeah, I you know what I
mean?

672
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Like the the next, the last
album that I wrote, I set out to

673
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440
write a bunch of hate fuck you
music and I wrote some of the

674
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,680
prettiest shit that I've ever
wrote.

675
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,440
So it's like, you know what I
mean?

676
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Like.
I end up, I end up that way a

677
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,440
lot.
You heard the tone that I had

678
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,800
when you logged on, right?
But more often than not, that

679
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800
fades really quickly into
where's that nice clean sound I

680
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000
got because I had this little
thing I was working on, you

681
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,040
know, that made me happy.
Yeah, I do.

682
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,040
That's why I don't even play my
electric anymore.

683
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,880
I just play acoustic.
I drop.

684
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,800
That a lot.
I have that in my other living

685
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,320
room.
That's all I have is an acoustic

686
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,600
in there, right?
Nice.

687
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920
It helps you with making songs
instead of noodling, you know?

688
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Yep.
Well, I'm a I'm a rhythm player.

689
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,280
I have no business playing lead
like God invented lead players

690
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,199
for a reason, because I can't
something from here to here like

691
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,159
I can scat, I can write it, I
can create it, I can tell you

692
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,120
how to play it, but I can't play
it.

693
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
I don't have to.
Say that, but I these guys

694
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,600
weren't interested in meeting
any other guitar players, so I

695
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,120
had to learn.
I was like, OK, I guess we

696
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,400
didn't.
We didn't want a rhythm guitar

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,960
player and I didn't want to play
guitar because I liked what I

698
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,880
did on stage without a, without
an instrument.

699
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,480
So I.
Just, you know.

700
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,440
I didn't want to be trapped
behind a guitar.

701
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,920
I just, I can't.
You too had a band.

702
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,440
Yeah, that song.
That that that song that opened

703
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,280
the show, that was Freeman.
Yeah, that was us.

704
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,239
Yeah.
Yeah.

705
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400
That would have been the first
song you heard if you came to

706
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,679
see us play every time.
We never changed that first

707
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,040
song.
We changed the whole rest of the

708
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,280
set list obviously.
But did you guys tour for a

709
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,080
while or how'd that go for you?
We played all over Phoenix and

710
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,920
yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was What's that bar?

711
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,760
There's a bar that I would watch
Authority 0 in in Phoenix.

712
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,360
What's his name?
Mason Jar we, we played with

713
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120
them many times at the Mason
Jar.

714
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,560
We played with them at the
Hollywood Alley, the Electric

715
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,280
Ballroom.
Nice.

716
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,360
We played for, we played with
some, some fun people.

717
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,600
It's, you know, looking back on
it, we, you know, we opened up

718
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,920
for Marshall Tucker Band and I
had no fucking idea who Marshall

719
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Tucker Band was the time because
I was more focused on us just

720
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
doing our thing.
And then they look back at it,

721
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,360
you know, 30 years later.
It's like, fuck me, man.

722
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,280
We walked.
We walked right by him dude,

723
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,400
like we were the boss and here's
all these old men who had been

724
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,920
there done that for 30 years
before us dumb asses.

725
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
But we weren't rude.
To him, we just walked by him to

726
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,760
go on stage.
You know, it's like, who are

727
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,680
those guys wearing cowboy boots?
Right, nice shirts.

728
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,880
And then, and this was before
the Internet, so it was before

729
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,200
you really had cell phones that
could take pic.

730
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,480
I don't think cell phones were
there except for the flip stuff

731
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,480
like I had a.
Cam even have that.

732
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Yeah, I.
Had a.

733
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,960
This was like beeper.
It was beeper.

734
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,200
It was beeper era.
I had a camcorder that we'd

735
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,640
record our practices and then I
would have people record our

736
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
yeah, yeah.
And record our sets.

737
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
So then we could watch them back
the next practice and and like

738
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,120
we were doing that just so we
could get better at our craft.

739
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Here's here's how high
technology he had.

740
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Jensen It was the mini cassette.
You could plug it into the VCR

741
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,680
and record the show off the
tape.

742
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,800
Not any tape, right?
I missed the game.

743
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,560
Yeah.
It was so much fun.

744
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,320
Dude.
Simple.

745
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,440
That's it.
I'm an.

746
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,920
Analog girl in a digital.
World man, put some Flyers up

747
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,160
and go play a gig, right?
Like I, I always used to tell my

748
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,760
like I'm done like if I don't,
once it gets effective enough

749
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,840
for me, like I'm off, I'll, I'll
do stuff like this, but I'm

750
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,760
going to create a little bit of
content and I'm going to give it

751
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
to my Internet lady.
By the way, the the website is

752
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Anna Jones.
Huge shout out to Anna Jones.

753
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480
She's probably the one person
that stuck with me through all

754
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,720
of this.
Shout out, shout out to you,

755
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,720
Anna Jones.
But flip phone and ACB radio,

756
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:14,680
bro, that's where I'm, that's
where I'm There you go.

757
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
If you don't know how to get rid
of, you don't know how to get a

758
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,920
hold of me.
You're not supposed to.

759
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
There you go, I love.
That that part I like as well.

760
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,920
I want to get to that life.
That's been my dream forever.

761
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,680
Yep.
Now with your with with your

762
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,200
YouTube and I'm clicking, I'm
clicking your links on on on

763
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,720
your on your website.
So the links are broken.

764
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,960
So you got to fix that.
Your iTunes link is broken.

765
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Your YouTube link, it opens up
and it says it doesn't go

766
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,160
anywhere.
So go fix your links because I

767
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,160
want, I want to drive.
Part of why we do this it I mean

768
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,280
it's self-serving for us because
we love talking to humans that

769
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,480
have great resumes and our
musicians, but we also we want

770
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,840
to promote your stuff where
people can find your music and

771
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,080
all that kind of jazz.
So you are on iTunes, correct?

772
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Yeah, I'm on iTunes.
I'm on.

773
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,080
I'm all the streaming sources.
So we just start.

774
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,760
We just partnered with Rebel
Sound.

775
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,520
OK, that Rebel distribution.
Anyways, they're going to start

776
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
doing our stuff.
And then it was a weird thing.

777
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,040
So I was with this company, they
took it over and decided that

778
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200
they were a record label in the
middle of it, but they were

779
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440
distribution.
So all of my stuff disappeared

780
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,120
for all of 23 into 24.
I got it up on like the summer

781
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:27,600
24 and then 25 was good and then
now like we're re releasing her

782
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,040
and then so that song that I
sent you her, Yeah.

783
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Yeah, we're.
Re releasing that and then

784
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,920
lampshade support was our was my
first radio single from

785
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,520
Nashville that we're gonna gonna
put out and then we're just

786
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,880
gonna keep going from there with
Rebel.

787
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:45,040
Alright, cool.
But the the hyperlinks, yeah, I

788
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
just.
Yeah, I just like, yeah, just

789
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,280
like just let you know so you
can go in there and fix those.

790
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,320
So I'm glad.
You said that because it didn't

791
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040
work on my phone either.
So what's I tried?

792
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,160
I tried beating the algorithm
and so I got like 15 of

793
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,400
everything.
Oh gotcha.

794
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,280
So.
So it was a bad idea, man.

795
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Yeah, really bad idea.
So what's what's, what's Bella

796
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Cheetah's role in your in your
music career now?

797
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,760
I'm not sure on what level I
could talk about it, but he is

798
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,520
the the he's gonna be booking us
and pick a slot lined up back to

799
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,920
us well.
He's well, he's management.

800
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,600
He's management.
So I figured so like that that

801
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,240
yeah.
So I called Dave, my company,

802
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,080
Sr.
SR1 Services out of Canada.

803
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,120
OK, that disappeared.
I I had to take about a year

804
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,080
break and they just he just
disappeared.

805
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,840
Wow.
I took a break he and kind of

806
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,400
just like I had to get my shit
together.

807
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,880
Did he own your masters or did
you?

808
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,800
I own my masters.
OK, that's that's.

809
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,720
Good.
And so it was, it was.

810
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,920
I did all the stuff myself.
I'd just save up money and do

811
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,360
it, do a little bit of a time.
I actually side note, yeah, I

812
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,240
was playing, playing with
Frankie Ballard and his Rd.

813
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,640
manager said you need to have an
album out.

814
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,960
And I'm like, I know he's like,
I don't think you're hearing

815
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,800
that.
Yeah, you do.

816
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080
So I was like, oh, shit.
So for years I've done been

817
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960
doing singles as we went.
Yeah.

818
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:11,080
So my first album.
Lost Pages is from the ages of

819
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,760
22 to 33.
OK, how old are you now?

820
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,400
Kind of a my first one is a best
up.

821
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,360
OK, sort of.
So how?

822
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,800
Do you know how old are you now?
I am 43.

823
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,480
OK, cool.
Yeah.

824
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:31,120
So then we then I put out, I put
out back to my pages or, or No,

825
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,400
no, back-to-back to my roots.
And that took me about 7 years

826
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,840
to put out.
And Ryan Tilby out of Utah, he's

827
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,240
a, if you haven't heard that
guy, he's a monster bluegrass

828
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:44,520
guy.
And so we did all my rock and

829
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,440
punk songs and changed into
bluegrass.

830
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,240
And then so that, that was how,
that how that kind of happened

831
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,400
for my album.
But I called Dave when I when I

832
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,120
was coming out of my funk and
like I got sober, I got got my

833
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,680
shit together and really kind of
pulled my head out of my how

834
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:02,240
long you been?
Sober.

835
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,160
How long you been sober?
Two years.

836
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,360
Right on.
I got.

837
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,080
I hit 21.
February 9th.

838
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,240
Hell yeah.
Yeah.

839
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,760
Mike's got about 15.
We decided, Mike.

840
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,600
It's got to be longer than that
now because I've been at my job

841
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,320
15, probably 17 or 18.
Right.

842
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,080
So I so I called him and he was
like, hey man, what's up?

843
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,920
And we started talking and
getting it all together.

844
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,160
I'm like, dude, I got it.
I got to get a new agent or

845
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
something because nothing is
making sense.

846
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,480
And so that's us in Rincon.
Right on, right on.

847
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Oh my God, that is the Spud Bowl
20/17/2018.

848
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,800
OK, you sing the national
anthem.

849
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,800
Yeah, sang the national anthem
and I did the pre show.

850
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,960
I did the pre show, which
thoughts?

851
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Because it was 17° and then I
had to and then yeah, for two

852
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,800
hours.
And then I, my last song was

853
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,680
just a fucking barn burger.
I freaking gave it all I had.

854
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,960
And then my buddy's like, dude,
you still got to sing the

855
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,240
national anthem.
I'm like, shit.

856
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Yeah, but I freaking the only
thing I gave a shit about.

857
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:19,560
At 83 seconds The Jets fly over
me, that land of the free, and I

858
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,080
nailed it.
So that's all I gave.

859
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Right on.
Yeah.

860
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,320
Right on.
So we we, I caught so Dave set

861
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,520
it up.
That's us in in Texas.

862
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,960
When we were down there at the
Hippodrome.

863
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:38,240
That was red show.
He he, he told me to call Bruce

864
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,000
and I called Bruce and he kind
of was, you know, I mean, he

865
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,760
didn't really know what the fuck
I am.

866
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,080
And so he kind of he he with kid
gloves, I think.

867
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,800
And then we've, I've just been
on it, like, just yeah, let's

868
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400
go, let's get things going.
You know, I mean, like, it's,

869
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,720
it's kind of a fall from grace
kind of story.

870
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,440
Cool.
Like things were just epic.

871
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,960
Like, I was play, I played with
Alan Jackson, was doing stadium

872
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,040
shows, got stuff going.
I was unsigned.

873
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Yeah.
And then everything kind of fell

874
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960
apart during COVID, but I still
had a name I could use.

875
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Yeah, so that's what Jensen butt
girl.

876
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,240
We had a calendar for a while.
We had.

877
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,560
About you've been.
Pucked, So I hired I hired a

878
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,560
bunch of models and bartenders
and they would go to our shows.

879
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,880
There you go and they and they
would hand out stuff because you

880
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,800
want to sell drinks.
That was an epic show.

881
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,920
That forget was epic, but
galactic that one.

882
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,720
No dude, that was.
Right on, right on.

883
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,440
And the rad part about that show
is they called me and they said

884
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,720
we don't know Shane Smith and
Saints.

885
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,160
That was a rad show.
They called me and asked me

886
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:42,120
like, we don't know who could
pull this off and be random.

887
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,000
We just thought in view and I
was just happened to be like,

888
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,800
fuck yeah, let's go.
Let's go.

889
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,560
That's cool.
Where are you getting?

890
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800
All these this is your, this is
your Facebook, Facebook.

891
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,360
Oh shit.
I clicked, I clicked, I clicked

892
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,840
on it because it it took it, it
was taking me to a video.

893
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,440
But then when I clicked on that
the video, it just it went away.

894
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,040
So I'm like, well, fuck it, I'm
just going to go down those

895
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,800
pictures and.
There you go.

896
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,440
Because so that was us.
We were the house band out in

897
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Lake Powell for three years.
There you go.

898
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,240
Fucking rad.
Dude, you're like you're, you're

899
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,280
I'm in Arizona, Mike's in
Illinois.

900
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Like if you come on tour in
Arizona, you need to let me

901
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
know.
Oh bro, I was at Wawi.

902
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640
You're what?
I was the house band at WAWI.

903
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,640
I know that's what I'm saying
though.

904
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,400
If if you come back, you if you
come back this way, if you're

905
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,000
headed back here for.
Shows Oh, I'm coming back.

906
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Let me know.
There's some places that I'm

907
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
like fucking well known and
there's some places that I'm

908
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,840
famous in Page, AZ I'm fucking
famous.

909
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Like I got fucking, I got picked
up by the sheriff and the

910
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,360
fucking guy from what from
Aramark called him and fucking I

911
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,200
get dropped off in my hotel room
right on.

912
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,760
Right on.
That's awesome.

913
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,440
They were like, don't take him
to jail.

914
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,840
We can't bail him out.
I don't know what people said,

915
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,440
but I was really fucked up and
we had a fight and we just it

916
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,560
was a wild night.
It was one of our really

917
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,120
debaucherous nights.
And so, yeah, I just remember

918
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
being in the back of a cop car
trying to figure out how I'm

919
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
going to explain this to the to
the higher ups at the at the

920
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,600
resort.
And then all I remember is a

921
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,280
dude saying you better be
grateful to your friends and let

922
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:16,720
me go there.
You.

923
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,760
Go.
Yeah.

924
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Yeah, never.
Yeah, but you ever come back to

925
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Arizona, Dude, reach out.
Let me know because I'll

926
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,200
definitely come.
Check here yeah oh bro freaking

927
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,120
let me know I I got so I played
down at Rocky Point.

928
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Oh man.
COVID.

929
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,440
Yeah, around COVID, no 19/20/19.
No.

930
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,760
Went down there party down there
and then I made a bunch of

931
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
freaking like bunch of met a
bunch of people out there.

932
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,680
So I got I get a lot of people
calling me and messaging me

933
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,840
every once in a while.
Cool because I used to hand out

934
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,480
my number like people wanted to
hang out like.

935
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Well, I got your number.
I got your number.

936
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,280
So just text me.
If you know you're coming to

937
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,360
Arizona, do a show, text me and
we'll we'll see.

938
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,240
If we can, yeah, yeah,
definitely.

939
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,000
And then same thing for Mike.
He's in Illinois now.

940
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,920
So if you, you know you're going
to Illinois, reach out, reach

941
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,960
out to me and I'll text Mike
because I don't know if you want

942
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,040
Mike to have your number.
Mike just constantly Mike

943
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,200
people.
Get get my number buddy call me

944
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,000
and I would get I was living
before I came to national.

945
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,520
I'm a.
Strange dude, man, you don't

946
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,960
want me to have your number?
No text in the middle of the

947
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,600
night?
No.

948
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,160
Right.
Do it.

949
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,080
No, if you ever need any, if you
got a rhythm track you want lead

950
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,640
work done to send it to me.
Well, I'm not a lead player, so

951
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,720
there's a lot of times that I
need a lead player, so.

952
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,560
If you ever need a lead player,
man, I have a studio sitting

953
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,440
right in front of me.
This.

954
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,840
Is a done and done for setup
done and done I look at.

955
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,360
That I'd be happy.
To it's all coming together.

956
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,320
And I'll tell him myself.
But you can tell Dave the same

957
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,920
thing I should have told him
when he was.

958
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,520
You know, if you guys ever need
tracks, man, let me know.

959
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480
Here's the thing with Dave, he's
surrounded by fucking amazing

960
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,040
artists.
I noticed that.

961
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,320
So like, he he, he and him and I
deserves to be too.

962
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,440
But some of the guys.
So the guy on county line is a

963
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,640
monster on the guitar.
He's kind of a shut in a little

964
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,760
bit.
He's a super rad dude.

965
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,520
I don't, I don't, I don't want
to spare time at all.

966
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,000
But he.
Just like kind of we have that

967
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,440
in.
Common we talked about that.

968
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,440
So like Dave, Dave wanted to
fucking branch out and so he

969
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640
did.
But I've been huge fortune.

970
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,440
So this that song lampshade
support.

971
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:25,880
I don't know if you know who Ben
Flanders is.

972
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,520
He's on that song.
He's Ella Langley and freaking

973
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,800
Riley Green guitarist.
OK.

974
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,120
Yeah, it's freaking like I've
been.

975
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,000
I've super blessed on some of
these things too, like some of

976
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,400
the guys who got sat in on it
like it's dead so.

977
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,120
And for me it's more the
merrier, like the more people,

978
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,840
you know, like I don't get, I'm
not worried.

979
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,760
I'm not married to any decision
I originally made.

980
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680
You know what I mean?
Unless I'm on the road, then

981
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,920
we're under.
Then we got to freaking stick

982
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,000
together.
Right.

983
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,280
Absolutely.
If you're in a band and you're

984
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,920
touring, that's one thing.
But if you're just writing

985
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,360
songs, music is supposed to be
shared.

986
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
And you know, I'd never
understood that competition

987
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,840
thing.
As soon as I knew a musician was

988
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160
in competition, I no longer
wanted to be in that.

989
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,080
You know, I just didn't want to
be in that situation.

990
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,120
You want to know the worst
moment of my life?

991
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,760
I found out Eric Clapton wasn't
the guitarist on Ladle.

992
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,640
Who was?
What?

993
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Yeah, that's one of you guys
pierced all right down there.

994
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,720
Oh shit.
Wow.

995
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,080
That's crazy, man.
Yeah, bro.

996
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,000
So I'm sharing your website,
jensenbuck.com, right?

997
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,800
Yes, Sir, it's a Jensen Buck
Music.

998
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,320
I'm sorry, it's Jensen Buck
Music.

999
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Jensen Buck music.com.
So you're going to update this

1000
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,120
when you get your tours and
stuff going on.

1001
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Right now you're just basically
getting back on track, writing

1002
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,120
music, getting ready to record.
Putting it all together, got the

1003
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,600
got the lineup, I think figured
out now the Flanders boys were

1004
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,040
going to fit in with me and I
got a couple other guys and and

1005
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,880
Bruce is going to work his magic
for getting me shows And then

1006
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,440
yeah, yeah, it's alright.
Then distribute through Rebel

1007
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,440
and then we're going to try.
I'm I'm working right now on

1008
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,800
getting ATV show going following
this shit show.

1009
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Oh, right on.
That's cool.

1010
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,720
That would be really cool you.
Know what I mean like it's just

1011
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,880
like so many people.
So if you go to my I sent you

1012
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,720
that link on YouTube, it's
that's the road and it so that's

1013
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,200
that was the original idea and I
was never able to capture the

1014
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,120
rest of it and like this slowly
progressed into just a terrible

1015
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,640
show.
The first episode's good, but

1016
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,480
like after that, it just eked
its way through.

1017
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,080
But but now I'm, I'm like, you
know, there's a whole lot of

1018
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,760
life that musicians go through
that, you know, the family, the,

1019
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960
the money, you know, sometimes
you got to get a side job And

1020
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,840
just I want to show this story
because, you know, it was, it

1021
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,320
meant, it meant the world to me.
But I want to, I want to show my

1022
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160
kids that you can do it.
You know, I mean, and I and I

1023
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,880
want them.
I want everybody to see, dude,

1024
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,520
this fucking sucks.
Unless you're like, unless

1025
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,960
you've got a dream deal, like
it's a grind.

1026
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,760
And I think, I don't know, I
just, I think it's a story that

1027
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,280
some people would like to watch.
And if not, then I'm just going

1028
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,080
to waste a bunch of money and.
Record it.

1029
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,960
OK, here we're going to we're
going to share a little clip of

1030
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,560
this, I think.
It's a really cool idea, man.

1031
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,720
We still got time.
We're going to share a little

1032
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:19,840
bit of this before we still got
time.

1033
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:32,200
My name is Jensen.
This the story of the ups and

1034
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,080
downs and insurance and outs of
a.

1035
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Real.
Tour musician, life on the road,

1036
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,880
life at home, the lives of those
who've been following me through

1037
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,000
this journey.
It's a story of what it really

1038
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
takes to make it in today's
music world.

1039
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,360
From the small town to the big
time.

1040
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,680
That was the PBR Rodeo.
That was a rad gig.

1041
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,440
Hopefully being able to make a
living with this guitar.

1042
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,120
I'm Jensen Buck and this is the
road.

1043
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,200
That's cool.
That is cool, dude.

1044
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,240
And now fucking so.
Now I have to change the fucking

1045
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,560
name.
Because Blake Shelton came with

1046
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,440
the road.
Blake Shelton fucker.

1047
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,160
I fucking that would be pissed
too dude.

1048
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,080
I thought about just keeping it
fucking.

1049
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,080
I've had that since fucking
2016.

1050
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,080
Yeah, yeah.
Jensen, Jensen, Buck, Comma.

1051
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,080
The road.
There you go.

1052
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,880
Because then your name's
synonymous with the road.

1053
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,880
Fuck Blake Shelton.
You're cooler than Blake

1054
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Shelton, man.
He married Gwen Stefon.

1055
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:26,320
The hell is wrong?
I always, I always thought it

1056
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,560
would be great to get sued by
somebody super famous because

1057
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,480
that's how you made.
It, you know.

1058
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,520
Well, because then no publicity
is bad publicity, right?

1059
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,440
It's like when Sharon Osbourne
tells us to fuck off.

1060
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,600
OK, Thank you, Sharon, Right.
Yeah.

1061
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,120
You know, bring it on, you know?
Yeah, bro, you know that's

1062
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,800
awesome.
Yeah, that's crazy.

1063
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,880
That's good.
We got to have you back, man.

1064
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,840
We got to have you back on a
Friday because Friday we have

1065
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,800
unlimited time.
Yeah, man, anytime.

1066
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,400
So I just I was just trying to
get things going.

1067
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,600
I he he threw sometimes out.
I was like, better, let's go so.

1068
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,680
Yeah, I'll text you.
Yeah, we'll get you on an April.

1069
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,920
We have.
I haven't booked April yet.

1070
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,160
March is booked for the most
part, but let's get you on an

1071
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,320
April on a Friday because we
started like we have to make my

1072
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,960
schedule may change, but if his
schedule changes, we can still

1073
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,560
do longer on Friday.
Because yeah, we'll make a day

1074
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,600
for that for sure him and I'll
figure out one of the days we

1075
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,400
always make so we can have
musicians on and just bullshit

1076
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,080
about, right.
I would have loved to have heard

1077
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,240
your stories about the road and
all that kind of.

1078
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,560
Those are stories that are near
and dear to everybody.

1079
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,040
'S yeah.
Oh, I've got the fucking story.

1080
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,840
Yeah.
For sure man.

1081
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,040
Yeah, we can.
We can share stories for sure.

1082
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,640
That's yeah.
Here's the hard part.

1083
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,000
I actually remember most of them
and I'm like, I wish I would to

1084
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,720
put it away with the rest of it.
Right, see, I never I never

1085
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,720
really drank when I when I was
in a band, man, I my my

1086
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,760
alcoholism didn't start till
well after the fact.

1087
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,960
But but I just I I the only
thing I'd ever drank before a

1088
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,320
show is a shot of Jaeger and I
drink AI drink a beer.

1089
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,720
That was it.
Oh, I was so I was a fucking

1090
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,880
pirate.
So I I carried that with me when

1091
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,160
I came back to.
Mute that's not surprising no

1092
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,560
just just spending the hour with
you it's not surprising because

1093
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,640
you looks like somebody who has
like this epic zest for life and

1094
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,600
you're going to live every day
like it's your last day but in a

1095
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,160
good way but in a good way not
self-destructive you know

1096
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640
stepping on people's corpses
along the way it's.

1097
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,560
It ended up becoming
self-destructive and that's why

1098
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,000
I get.
Sober.

1099
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,720
Yeah, it always does.
It always starts.

1100
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:25,400
With the hard part wasn't that
everybody in the band thought

1101
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560
that they could drink like I did
and then get on stage and

1102
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,880
perform.
And so like, I've been, I, I

1103
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,200
started playing in bar bands
when I was 17, so fucking like,

1104
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,200
I and they, they started
allowing me to drink at like 18

1105
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,120
the first year.
They, like, I had to spend the

1106
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,440
whole time in the bathroom
during our breaks and then I

1107
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,760
could come back on stage.
And then finally they cut and

1108
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,720
lose.
And that was just absolutely the

1109
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,880
worst idea in the world.
But then so like when I came

1110
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,360
back, I never rehearsed.
I never did it because like my,

1111
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640
the way I operated is this.
I had muscle memory.

1112
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,600
Yeah, and everybody thought they
could party like I did.

1113
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,560
And so the rule in the band was
we'd get a new guy and they'd be

1114
00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,800
like, I can fucking, I can drink
with you.

1115
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,200
I'm like, OK, here's here's how
that works.

1116
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,520
If you're not in the lobby by
6:00 AM before I get there,

1117
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,760
you're fucking fired.
OK, wow.

1118
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,720
And I did.
I had to do that twice just to

1119
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:12,880
make sure I was.
So one of them was the drummer

1120
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:18,320
and I didn't know I was.
Oh man, it's really.

1121
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,400
Hard to fire the drummer.
Talking shit the whole night we

1122
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,360
were drinking.
Oh God, that's awesome.

1123
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Yeah, we got to have you back on
in April so we can do this

1124
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,800
longer.
Anytime man.

1125
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,600
Dude, you guys are great.
You guys are fucking.

1126
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,680
I love that you guys are in a
bit.

1127
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,000
How long have you guys been
doing the show?

1128
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,400
This is the 185th episode.
No, he's 180.

1129
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:40,960
A winner.
OK, you're 180.

1130
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,840
No.
No.

1131
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:49,200
No, he's one eighty 11811. 81.
October of 23, OK, We did a

1132
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,880
trial episode.
I think we released our first

1133
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,840
episode somewhere around the
27th of October of 23, so 2 1/2

1134
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,880
years, yeah.
That's awesome guys, I fucking

1135
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,040
love it.
Yeah, it was a way to be

1136
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,600
creative again.
Man, he wanted.

1137
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,400
He kept pestering me about doing
music and I was like, I didn't

1138
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,480
know if I was ready again.
I kept, I kept, I kept writing

1139
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,640
songs and sending them the
lyrics.

1140
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,960
I'm like, dude, dude, dude,
let's.

1141
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Go and I love them, but I had a
super I went through a period

1142
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,400
where I left, I lost all my
self-confidence.

1143
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,520
I've been there, man.
I relate to a lot of your

1144
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,240
stories.
So I I just called him up one

1145
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:24,520
day and I love this guy, man.
He when you talk about Dave

1146
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,120
being there in your darkest
moments.

1147
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,480
This fucker showed up at the
oddest times when I needed

1148
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,400
somebody to remind me who I was
again.

1149
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Yeah, and.
I said you want to do a podcast

1150
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,480
and he's like, I've heard of him
but I've never listened to 1.

1151
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,520
So I said.
You know, we can do whatever we

1152
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,200
want, so this is what we do.
Yeah, I always want to start a

1153
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,640
show talking with my friends, to
just record conversations with

1154
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,120
buddies.
And that's what.

1155
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,200
We hoped this would be, yeah.
Yes.

1156
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,360
Yeah, that's as close to a
description of what this should

1157
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,800
be as that.
Fucking Brad.

1158
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,440
I love it.
Dude, you should be the inside.

1159
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,880
You should be the outside person
looking in.

1160
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,680
That's how I always wanted to be
like.

1161
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,200
I want to know these guys, you
know?

1162
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,280
The Fit Watch Watching the
Fishbowl.

1163
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That Brad.

1164
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,840
This is one of the coolest guys
I ever met right here.

1165
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:12,480
Right back at you.
Yeah.

1166
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,480
Yeah.
You know, we're just those guys.

1167
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,280
Hey, So this we we wrap every
show up like this.

1168
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,600
And again, we're going to have
you back on April.

1169
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,280
I'll, I'll give you some text,
some dates tomorrow.

1170
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,800
We can figure it out.
So if you're feeling suicidal,

1171
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,600
depressed or, you know, just in
a wrong state of mind, don't do

1172
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,720
it.
Go, go run.

1173
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,280
Go scream in a pillow.
Go journal.

1174
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,000
Go talk to somebody who can't
find somebody to talk to.

1175
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,040
You Text 988.
Suicide is not the option.

1176
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,600
You don't want to leave a hole
in somebody else's heart because

1177
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,280
tomorrow's a better day with you
waking up in it.

1178
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,760
So just, you know, find someone
to talk to you again, text 988

1179
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,720
and somebody will talk to you
off that Cliff for that ledge

1180
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,080
and you will be a better person
tomorrow because you're waking

1181
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,440
up in it for Chris.
That's me.

1182
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,440
He's Mike and this is Jensen
Buck, Jensen Buck music.com.

1183
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,200
Go check him out.
Life resume is fantastic.

1184
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,240
We're going to we're going to
dive deeper next time you're on

1185
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,120
the show with the music and and
I'm going to buy some of your

1186
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,880
stuff when we hang up and when
we end the show today.

1187
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:00,920
Right on.
That's what I do.

1188
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,280
I buy the music and I listen to
it and then I report back to

1189
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,080
you.
So you may get some random text

1190
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,320
from me too.
And I like this song.

1191
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,440
You know I love it, but it's
we'll.

1192
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Check it out, man.
Yeah, yeah, man.

1193
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Check it out.
Yeah, and tell.

1194
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,720
Bruce it's all they're all so
different too.

1195
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,160
So that's cool an interesting.
It's like I'll discuss looking

1196
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,560
forward to if I look at it
that's.

1197
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,920
Awesome.
I love new music, man.

1198
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,400
Yeah.
Thanks for coming on, man.

1199
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,560
We really appreciate it.
Yeah.

1200
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,680
So tell Bruce we said hi.
If you talk to Dave, tell him we

1201
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,520
said hi and then I will.
I was serious about we'll get

1202
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,400
Dave on and not tell him and
then you just jump in like 2

1203
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,520
minutes into it.
Tell we have the real Jensen bug

1204
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,720
popping in here, motherfucker,
we're.

1205
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,520
We're, we're just going to say
we have somebody chiming in,

1206
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,720
they're calling in.
We're.

1207
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,920
Yeah.
It'll be.

1208
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,920
It'll be good.
Yeah, maybe.

1209
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,800
Maybe have you wear a mask, you
know?

1210
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah.
I love this.

1211
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,720
All right, man.
Thanks, Jensen dude.

1212
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,280
It's been a pleasure, man.
Time is valuable.

1213
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,880
We appreciate yours, you guys.
Read man, thanks for having.

1214
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Me.
Yeah.

1215
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,320
We'll have you back.
Peace.

1216
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Love you, brother Jensen.
Peace.

1217
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,800
See you.
Love you too man.