#182 - Morgan Smith - Kalm with Kava CEO

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Welcome YouTube.
And Twitchers, yes, everybody

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see, I'm working those.
Morgan already feels it's all

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about the Rock'n'roll Man.
I'm.

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All.
About that's awesome.

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This is the intro, this song
called Freeman written by yours

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truly and and that guy over
there.

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DM.
Once Upon a time, we are

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rock'n'roll stars.
True story.

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What happened?
Fall from grace.

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Oh, it's a whole.
It's a whole episode, man, Yeah.

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Hey, welcome to Chris and Mike
show.

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I'm he's he's Mike.
I'm Chris and this is Morgan and

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he is from Cava.
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weeks or so.
With that being said, Morgan

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Smith from Cava Root, right?
Is that what we're calling it?

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Kava root?
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I import

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Kava root from throughout the
South Pacific.

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My company's name is Calm with
Kava.

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I'm a Kava guy.
I'm a Kava nerd.

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Kava guy, so you found us
because you watched the Apache

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Joe show and so you sent me an
e-mail or us an e-mail to the

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show wanted to talk about your
products.

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So I'm pulling up your website
right now.

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If you can see that we are
kava.com, so give us a little

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bit of insight as to what you're
it's the websites kava.com,

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kava.com.
So give us a little bit of, you

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know, we're in an elevator of
Morgan pitch.

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Your pitch, your stuff, man.
Well, it's, it's a, it's calm

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with kava.com.
It's calm with AK, calm with

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kava.com.
OK, OK.

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But I mean, Kava is a, it's a
route, it's going throughout the

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South Pacific, right?
So there's a lot of different

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Kava companies out there.
And so I'm just one of them,

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right?
But Kava is a plant that's been

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going throughout the South
Pacific and cava has, it has

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been used for a long time.
It's been used for 3000 years to

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kind of help people connect with
one another and relax.

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And you know, it's, it's kind of
like a, like a Polynesian peace

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pipe.
Oh, right on.

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Yeah, that's a good way to put
it.

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So now expand on how you came to
be in this field of expertise,

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you know, what brought you to
this and then how do people use

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it and apply it that don't know
anything about it because I

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guess I don't know much about
it.

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Yeah, so I found it because like
10-12 years ago I was, I was

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pretty anxious, I was depressed.
I was, I was in AI was in a bad

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spot.
And I, I went to my doctor and I

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asked them for some help and I
got, I got some benzodiazepines

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like a Xanax, right?
And.

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Been through it myself.
OK, All right, So you guys are

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fully, you know, aware what what
that experience is like.

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For me personally, it hit me
really strong.

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It was like a really crazy sort
of a situation where I could not

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I couldn't really function on
it.

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I I took a pill and then I just
blacked out.

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Like I don't remember what I did
the rest of the day.

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Like I was driving Co workers to
lunch and stuff and, and that

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was not something that was, this
is a good thing for me or my

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family, you know.
So I need to find an alternative

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to help me kind of deal with the
stresses of life and and I

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found.
Kava cool, OK, now how did that

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help?
You know, it seems like this is

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180° from what you and I
experienced with with benzos.

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For me, I just had no emotions.
I had no highs or lows anymore

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right?
I was just kind of existing for

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the year 2, maybe 3 that I took
those and I just got tired of

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it, you know, I, I felt like I
was just waking up and every day

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was Groundhog Day, right?
I'm doing the same thing, but

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I'm not having any fun really.
You know, I'm not feeling the

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good times and I'm also not
experiencing the bad times.

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But when you're going through
life like that, you don't

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realize you're just on
autopilot, right?

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So how did Kava take away the
anxiety?

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Because I we suffer that
together, I can promise you, but

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still allow you to enjoy the,
you know, a day-to-day

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existence.
Yeah, I mean, look like I, I, I

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want to be very careful with
like how I say this because, you

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know, my I, I'm registered with
the FDA and so, you know, I

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cannot say that Cava is going to
help with any particular medical

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claim.
I'm.

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Just asking.
Anxiety, yeah.

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Yeah, Yeah.
No, I just want to be very clear

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here, right?
I I'm I'm not in, I'm not

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interested in getting sued by
anyone and and I certainly

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don't.
Want to understood in a way?

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But I, I will say this, I think
that a lot of the

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pharmaceuticals out there are,
you know, they're, they're long

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term solutions for what a lot of
people experience as a short

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term problem, right?
So I know personally, in my

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experience, I was going through
a particular crisis that lasted

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a couple of months.
I did not something I did not

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need something that was going to
last for years and years and

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years, right?
I did not need to be on

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something for a long time.
And so, and I'm, and I'm not

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saying Western medicine is bad,
right?

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My wife is a nurse and my, my
brother's a doctor.

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I believe in Western medicine,
but I think that there should be

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more of a holistic viewpoint on
like what we could potentially

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use to help us get through our
day.

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And so Kaaba is something that
that really helps you relax.

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It helps you calm down at the
end of the day.

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I, I really like to have it kind
of like to, you know, kind of

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just take a couple of minutes,
think about what happened during

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the day, think about what I can
do tomorrow better.

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And Kaaba kind of helps to just
to tone down some of those

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thoughts and just chill out,
right?

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I, I look at it like kind of
like an intense chamomile or

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maybe like a 10th of weed,
right?

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Like it's not something that's
going to be super intense.

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Can.
Relate to that as well.

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Yeah, like you're not going to
be on the ceiling, you're not

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going to be in space.
You're sure you're still going

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to make good decisions and
you're also going to remember

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what you did last night.
So that's that's how I look at

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Kava.
That's a great.

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So there's so there's a little
stigma with it, right?

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Anything that's that's not like
you said, you're FDA, you don't

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want to you don't want to, you
know, specifically claim things

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because I get that.
But there's always a little bit

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of stigma with stuff that's not
Western medicine, right?

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Because OK, the side effects of
this and that and my wife being

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my wife, when, when I, when I
shared your e-mail, she

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automatically googled everything
because that's what she does,

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right?
Even though she doesn't watch

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the shit.
Because, you know, it's kind of

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like when we, when Mike and I
would write our write our songs

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in the band and stuff.
She could care less when the

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album, when the stuff comes out
because she lives it.

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So sure, she'll never watch it,
but she googled it and she's

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like, oh, I'm going to watch
this one, which will be cool if

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she actually does.
Because, you know, she helped me

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write a book and she's never
read the book and people give

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her shit.
So when, when, when people have

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this, they, they, they create
the stigma about things they

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don't understand, right?
It's like when, when marijuana

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became legalized from medical
purpose, you know, everybody's

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up in arms, right?
Oh, you can't do, they can't do

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that.
World's in a crash, right?

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They they looked at Colorado and
how Colorado had all these

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problems because of that.
Even though it was the most

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prescribed painkiller from 18
whatever until 19 O 5 when

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aspirin came back around, right?
Right.

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Doctors prescribed it regularly
and nobody even talked about the

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high.
They only talked about the

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medical benefit.
It cures my anxiety, my pain, it

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takes away my arthritis, makes
me hungry again, you know,

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whatever.
Right, and it's a reason now

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that it's the most prescribed
even like I've gone to therapy

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because I had some issues from a
child growing up and my

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therapist one point time she
trying to put me on meds.

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I was like, no, I don't, I'm not
doing meds.

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I've just worked through this.
I don't need to be medicated.

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She's like, well, smoke pot.
And I was like, kind of like

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really.
And so she explained the

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benefits of it.
So I, I totally get how that's

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evolved over over time, you
know, and there's a reason why

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the NFL and baseball, you know,
and well-being and stuff, they

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don't test for pot anymore
because it helps for recovery

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and pain and all that kind of
jazz.

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So when somebody comes out you
with negative connotations about

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Cava and your product and and
what you're doing, how do you

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help them understand?
It's, it's not a bad thing

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because it's like anything else.
It's a, it's a, it's a plant

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based root, right?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, OK, so I,

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I'm really glad that you bring
this up because that is the

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number one reason I reached out
is because I feel like I'm kind

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of on a mission.
I'm, I'm a bit of a kavangelist.

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I'm someone that I just really
think that Kava can be very

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beneficial to people.
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And I and so I, I feel like it's
doing the plant and by the way,

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the, the people that have been
growing it for 3000 years a

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disservice.
If we're saying that Kava is one

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thing when it's completely and.
That's why you're here, Morgan.

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Because we want.
We want, we want your side up

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from somebody who is champion
the 'cause it's kind of like

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hemp.
It's been around since, you

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know, Jesus.
Jesus was walking around in hemp

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suits, man.
Like you can't tell me Jesus

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wasn't in the desert 40 days and
40 nights and wasn't doing a

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little opium or smoking a little
bit weed because, you know, he's

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randomly talking to people that
aren't there.

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OK of?
Course they were.

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They didn't have the Internet or
television, you know.

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I mean, Moses and and the
burning Bush, I'm pretty sure

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he's got something going on.
Right.

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And the water into wine, Would
you actually put that water to

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make people think it was wine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So burning Bush was clearly the
Acacia Bush, correct?

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Right.
Who knows, man?

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I'm, I'm not a look, I'm not a
biblical scholar here, but I

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think there's something going
on.

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But so, so like, if you look at
Australia, they did a harm

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ranking study of all of these
different substances.

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They it was like 50 different
substances and alcohol was 98

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out of 100 in terms of how
harmful it was, right?

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We all know that we all, you
know, we've all seen our drunk

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uncle and like kind of what you
know, how many Christmases he

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screwed up, right?
Maybe you?

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Weren't 2121 years sober right
here?

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Nice job, dude.
Yeah, yeah.

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So I mean, you, you get it,
right?

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Alcohol is terrible and everyone
knows it and on this exact and

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you know, if you look at it even
from like not even just like a

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personal health situation, but
even just from like a macro

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economy scale, you go like,
well, how many billions of

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dollars are lost because of
hangovers?

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How many people screw up their
entire lives and careers over

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this stuff?
It's super harmful.

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Kava in that exact same study
was a two, it was a 2 out of

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100.
So you know, if you if you talk

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about like, Oh well, Kava does
this or does that, but I can

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almost guarantee you it's far
more benign than any other

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substance that you're putting
into your body.

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I guarantee you that soda that
you drank yesterday that's worse

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for you than Kava is, well, you.
Brought like you can't.

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Really.
You know, you brought up my

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number one argument, Morgan.
No, you're fine.

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I interrupted you.
But it's important that people

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know on every corner you can buy
enough alcohol every minute of

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every day to kill yourself.
Yep.

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Yes, and it will, right you.
The hell.

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You got 20 bucks you could buy
black car heroin.

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In marijuana.
In marijuana to kill yourself,

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you can't do it right.
There's been 0 deaths from

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people overdosing on marijuana
unless they jumped off a bridge.

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Right, looking for that bag of
Cheetos that fell out of their

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car while they were driving,
right?

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That's the only reason they're
jumping off a bridge, right?

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So.
That's a very important point

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for you to bring up is that you
know this is a 2 out of 100

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scale.
And and by the way, Kava is not

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physically addictive.
It has 0 tolerance issues.

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So you could take it every
single day for two years, not

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have it the next day and you
won't care.

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It would be on the par with
eating lettuce every day, right?

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You're not going to get
addicted.

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To lettuce, it's, it's it, it
does not create dependence right

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now, obviously anything can, can
be habitual, right?

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You could drink Cava every
single day because you like the

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effects and you like how it
makes you feel.

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But that is very different from
a physical withdrawal effect

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that you could get from most
other substances out there.

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And the second thing that you
brought up, Mike, is that there

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is you, you cannot overdose on
Cava.

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You cannot do that.
So you know, I, I just think of

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it from like a harm perspective,
man.

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It is better for you than
basically anything out there.

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OK, now talk to me about the
applications, right?

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We've we've discussed that it's,
you know, I'm glad that Chris

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brought that up because it's
important for people to know

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it's not dangerous, right?
Marijuana is not dangerous.

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It's important to know drugs
that are dangerous versus drugs

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that aren't.
And you really, I'm starting to

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think you don't call this a
drug.

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It's a plan, right?
Marijuana is a plan.

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I, I don't really like when they
lump them into the drug

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category.
So if I'm going to use it for my

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anxiety or maybe I'm going
through a rough patch where, you

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know, things are changing, where
my routine is upended, how do I

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apply this in my life now?
Because I'm learning right along

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with everybody else.
I don't really know a lot about

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it.
I think it's awesome.

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Yeah, and, and just to touch on
your first point really quick

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here too, Cava is considered a
food and it's also considered a

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dietary supplement.
It's the same way in which you

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look at coffee as a food and you
look at coffee extract as a

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supplement.
It's the same thing.

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It's the exact same thing,
right?

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And so it's not a drug.
It's just like you said, it's

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not a drug, it's food.
And so I think that's pretty

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important.
Personally, I like to drink it

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at night.
So cava is a sedative.

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It is going to relax you.
It is all cavas are sedative.

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There's a hundred different
varieties of them that are noble

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cavas, which are basically cavas
that you can drink every single

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day.
And of those, right, you know,

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there's there's a spectrum.
It's kind of like marijuana in

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that some are going to be more
sedative than others and some

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are going to be more euphoric
than others.

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If you look at a map and you
look at where cava originated

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it, it originated in Vanuatu.
And in Vanuatu, it's an

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archipelago a couple 100 miles
West of Fiji.

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And it started out as a wild
plant and it was a canoe plant.

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And as they put in their canoes
and they went on to other

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islands to the east, it changed
and morphed as it hit different

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types of ecosystems.
Really.

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And because of that, you have
different varieties of it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And it's an invention of the
South Pacific people.

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It's something that without
those people, you would not have

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comma today.
It does not reproduce on its

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own.
It has to have people to to do

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this.
Interesting.

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Yeah.
And so I, I bring that up

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because, you know, when you talk
about like something that you

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want to, or like kind of daily
sort of rituals or how you could

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apply it in your own life.
In Vanuatu, they like to drink

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it at 4:00 or 5:00 at night.
They drink it for an hour or

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two, very strong, concentrated,
you know, coconut shells, right,

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shells worth of, of cobba.
And then they have dinner and

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they go to sleep in Fiji or
Tonga, they'll drink it all

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night long.
And because it's more diluted

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and the varieties are far more,
you know, just they're just not

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as intensely sedative.
OK.

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So would you say the first
example is more introspective

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and the second example is more
social?

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Absolutely I right, I like what
you did the.

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People in Fiji are using it as
well.

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I, you know, it's not a mystery
that I've smoked my fair share

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of marijuana.
I've used it for both, right?

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I use it for being introspective
when I sit down to write music.

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But I also like in a social
setting with my friends, you

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know?
Yeah.

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World.
Events or whatever.

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I like to hang out with a bunch
of Tongans here in Phoenix and

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the Tongans, they will legit
like, I'm not even kidding here

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when I say I showed up to a
place at like 6:00 at night and

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and I left at 3:00 in the
morning and they were still

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going hard at about a 10 at
about, yeah, I think it was 10

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in the morning.
I, I texted my buddy and I said,

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hey, man, last night was a lot
of fun, you know, so good to see

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you.
He text me a picture back.

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They're still there hanging out
drinking Kava together.

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They're like, yeah, we're going
to make some fry bread in a

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couple minutes here, right?
So like, they just love to drink

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it, you know, for a long time
with their friends, right?

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Like, OK, so, so, so, so, so not
only does it has a calming

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effect, but like, so now I'm
intrigued now because like if

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I'm drinking something, you
know, from 6:00 in the morning

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or 6 at night until like, you
know, like you said, the next

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morning, is it kind of just
it's, is it more like a like,

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like you kind of referenced A
chamomile tea earlier.

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So it's just kind of like that
you're just kind of slowly

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sipping tea for six hours and
just kind of hanging out,

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socializing, kind of just
natural, like chill vibe.

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But not, you're not high, you're
not, you know, stoned, you're

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not drunk.
It's just, I mean, you know.

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You're definitely feeling it
right.

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Common is euphoric.
It does cause definite feelings

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of just very chill relaxation,
right?

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And you're definitely going to
be more socially, you know, sort

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of less socially anxious.
And, and so you definitely feel

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it in, in your head.
And actually, that's the thing

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that kind of sold me on Cava
originally when I was going to,

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I was going through all my, you
know, issues 12 years ago.

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I I went through like 10 or 12
different sort of substances to

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try to see what worked best for
me.

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I tried CBD, right?
I remember, yeah, when people

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used to kind of sell CBD, they
would, I feel like, I feel like

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Cava is what people thought CBD
was 10 or 12 years ago, right?

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You know how people are like, Oh
yeah, I took CBDI, didn't feel

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anything.
I don't really care about.

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I never.
Tried, I tried, I tried a little

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bit and I didn't tell anything.
I just thought, well, this is

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dumb.
I.

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Don't think it works for some
people.

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Yeah, somebody gave me some CBD
bomb and I'm like.

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I don't.
I actually have friends who, and

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I'm guilty of this a little bit
myself, where edibles just don't

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work.
You know, you hear horror

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stories about people who take
edibles and they get pinned to

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the couch for 8 hours, right?
You can't move anything but

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their eyes.
So I've had it.

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Taken.
Terrible.

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I can't see.
There you go.

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Now I could take 300 milligrams
and drive to McDonald's to get a

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hamburger and come home and, you
know, nothing I don't have.

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And I think part of it's, you
know, I've experienced so many

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times, but I, I don't think when
that chemical reaction takes

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place, it is the same for
everyone, right?

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Because I actually have friends
who have taken 1000 milligrams

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and felt nothing.
I'm not going to be that guy.

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I can't relate to that at all.
Sure.

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Yeah, I can't either.
I think that's more.

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Grams and I'm on the.
Floor dude, I'm kind of

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reinforcing where you were going
with you have to through trial

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and error with some of these
things, no differently than your

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doctor does when he's
prescribing benzos.

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That's very important for people
to know.

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That guy has orgal has no idea
how you're going to react to

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those.
They don't.

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Yep. 100% it's the price.
They just do a lot of

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psychotropics, right?
They do a lot of psychotropics

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like they're M&M's.
Let's try this one, this one,

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and this one and see if it
works.

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If that doesn't work, we're
going to take, but it's super

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slow.
That doses all of a sudden,

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right?
That you experience different,

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you know, like there's indicos,
there's sativos, there's

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different strains and levels of
edibles.

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You have to start out with, you
know, little samples of

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different ones, which is what
you were talking about doing

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with the carpet.
You know if one thing doesn't

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work for you, try the other.
Yeah, I always tell people when

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they want to try Kava for the
first time, there's a couple of

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basic rules.
I would say the first is I

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always try traditional Kava,
right?

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There's a ton of different types
of products out there, like

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different formats, right?
You'd have like traditional

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kavas, you'd have instant kavas,
you have Kava extract products.

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I'd say go for the real deal
traditional thing, invite some

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friends over, experience it
together and do it on an empty

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stomach And you know, you're
going to have a great time.

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At least, you know, hanging out
with your friends, drinking some

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muddy water and talking about
how crazy the feelings are.

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But the, you know, and I also
say, I think that you can't just

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try one type of Kava and think
that you know what Kava is.

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So many people I've talked to
go, oh, well, I had Kava from

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Vanuatu and, and then I go, OK,
well, did you try Kava from

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Tonga?
Because it's going to feel

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completely different.
It's going to taste completely

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different.
And Vanuatu cava is they're much

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more like they taste like.
A pine cone.

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They're very Piney.
They're very bitter.

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Cava in Tongan means bitter.
And the more like, the closer it

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is to the wild cavas back in the
day before they domesticated

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cava, it is much more bitter.
It's much more Piney.

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And the further E you go, the
much more they become much more

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sort of mellow in their flavor
and they're just not as intense.

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And so certain people just don't
like different types of cava

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because of either the flavor or
the smell or the OR the effects,

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right?
So you got to try different

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types in order to see which one
might fit.

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You so so would it be good for
someone to start with something

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that's has has kind of I don't
want to say potency per SE, but

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it's kind of a lower, lower
potency.

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Just if, if, if this is like
I've never drank cava in my

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life.
I don't I don't drink alcohol.

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I don't take either.
I don't do any kinds of

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painkillers and stuff like that
because I'm an alcoholic.

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So my system is very just
benign.

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Like the first time I had a fake
beer after being sober for five

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years, my brain was like, what
the hell is this?

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My tongue's like, oh, beer.
My brain didn't understand.

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And it really it was, it was, it
was a struggle.

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And so it took me about a.
Year to really figure.

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00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,120
Out OK, I can handle fake beer
as long as I have this mindset.

445
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,960
If I don't, I don't have a fake
beer because I want a beer.

446
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,680
I have a fake beer because it's
a fleeting thought while I'm

447
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,840
grilling.
Oh, it'd be cool to have a beer

448
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,000
right now.
Oh that's right, I got heine

449
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,520
conceito in the fridge right.
So for someone like me who has 0

450
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,040
tolerance to anything and
everything, because I don't, I

451
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840
really I'm I drink 1 cup of
coffee every morning with hint

452
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,040
milk and then the rest of my day
is water and iced tea for the

453
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,880
most part.
I do throw in, you know, juices,

454
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,720
apple or not apple juice, but
orange juice and grape juice and

455
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,000
watermelon juice, that type of
stuff.

456
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,920
But I'm very clean eating.
So if I was to go to Tonga Cava,

457
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040
I would just kind of thinking
that would just sit me on my ass

458
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,320
and I'm going to see, you know,
rainbows and unicorns with, you

459
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,200
know, people falling out of the
walls.

460
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,160
Is that accurate?
Should I go with a little bit

461
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,960
more mellow beginning kind of
diluted over, you know, from

462
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560
Tonga to like Arizona, like find
an Arizona version?

463
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760
Yeah, well, I I would answer
that like this.

464
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,640
You know, earlier we were
talking about how coffee is a

465
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,440
food, Cavo is a food, right?
OK, when you go buy coffee, what

466
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040
are your like?
What?

467
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080
How do you determine which type
of coffee to buy?

468
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,480
We stumbled across this, I
forget what it's called now.

469
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,480
Mike introduced me to this one
brand.

470
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,280
We liked that, and then we
couldn't find that one day, so

471
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,080
we found this one that had a
pirate ship on it.

472
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,480
It's a salted caramel and we've
stuck with that ever since.

473
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,800
That sounds good too.
You know what's interesting is

474
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,360
that you never mentioned the
caffeine content.

475
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,120
No, because I could care less
about the caffeine content.

476
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,440
Like I don't drink sodas at all.
So like he's.

477
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800
Proving your point.
He's oh, oh, oh.

478
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,400
He's making his point for you.
Yeah, no.

479
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,600
So what I'm saying is that no,
no, no, I mean, but that's

480
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,280
exactly my, my point is that I
don't look at cava as, oh, this

481
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,200
needs to be a certain strength
or something.

482
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,240
If you have a cup of coffee in
the morning and for some reason

483
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,880
it just doesn't hit, or maybe
you just had an early morning,

484
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,520
you need another one.
You just go have a second cup of

485
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,720
coffee.
It's the exact same thing with

486
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Kava.
And the reason earlier I was

487
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,640
talking about shells, like
coconut shells.

488
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,520
We literally talk about a shell
as like a serving of Kava,

489
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,120
right?
And so when I prepare Kava for

490
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:30,680
myself, I will prepare 456,
maybe 7 shells of, of Kava,

491
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600
which is like 6 to 8 ounces of
the actual prepared beverage.

492
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,720
And then I'll just have as many
shells of Kava as I want.

493
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,200
I, you know, and you space it
out every 10-15 minutes and that

494
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,360
way you can kind of get to the
point where you want to be and

495
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,680
you don't have to go higher than
that.

496
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,360
Or if you just want one, that's
fine too.

497
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,960
It's just you can control it, is
what I'm saying.

498
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280
It's not like an edible where
you take it and then you're just

499
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,520
on the ceiling.
Seen purple elephants flying?

500
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,160
I wish.
It's also one other thing I'll

501
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,480
say is that like, I feel like a
lot of people, they try to

502
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,840
replace Kava with other things,
right?

503
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,760
And they try to say like, Oh
well, I'm going to replace

504
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
alcohol with Kava or I'm going
to replace we with Kava.

505
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,280
Kava is so much more subtle and
so much more just mellow.

506
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,920
It is, it is not something
that's super intense, but I

507
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,080
think that that to me that's a
selling point because yeah, I

508
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,640
don't want to be there.
I like, I look, I got kids, man.

509
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,440
I, I got, I got a wife who needs
me to operate, you know, so I

510
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,960
gotta, I gotta do things.
And so to me, I don't want

511
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,800
something super intense, but I.
Think of this more as meditation

512
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,920
than.
You know, it's a great.

513
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,160
Anybody, anybody.
Well, I'm thinking that Chris is

514
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,080
thinking in the direction that I
was thinking at first because

515
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560
we've experienced addiction,
right?

516
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:57,080
So your mind instantly goes to
Oh my God, I don't want it to be

517
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,280
like this, right?
Yeah, I had that same reaction

518
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200
at 1st and my mind was going
there too.

519
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,240
So anybody that's listening to
this that was a former addict

520
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,360
would think the same thing.
So I like how you described it

521
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,120
as standing in the aisle of the
grocery store and deciding

522
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,200
between, you know, my mother
likes to drink tea everyday.

523
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,200
So she picks her tea, right?
It's the same concept.

524
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,360
She would just pick her strain
of cava.

525
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,360
You know, you can think of
strains of tea and coffee as the

526
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,560
same thing.
Or what brand of milk do you

527
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,480
buy?
Skim milk?

528
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Whole milk, you know right?
It's.

529
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Well, yeah, yeah.
OK.

530
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,080
So it's kind of like the best.
So it's kind of like the best

531
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,880
part of waking up is Folgers in
your cup.

532
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,400
Yeah, except this is the antique
coffee.

533
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,720
So it's like the best part of
going, the best part of chilling

534
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,040
out is.
You need a Jingle.

535
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,160
You need a Jingle, Morgan.
You need a Jingle, man.

536
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,640
You know that to you?
Yeah, like good to the last

537
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,000
drop.
Maxwell House, right?

538
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,040
You need something going off
into the Netherlands sleep

539
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,960
right?
So here's a question.

540
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,080
So, so I, you know, do you drink
in Kava, get up in the morning

541
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,280
like you drink it at night, like
you said.

542
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,520
So you, you have your, you have
your Kava at night and you need

543
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520
to run to the store.
You're completely fine running

544
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,040
to the store driving, no issues.
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think on

545
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,360
our bags it says not to operate
heavy machinery.

546
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Personally, hasn't been a huge
issue for me.

547
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,360
You know, I'm not telling people
to go do that, but it's not

548
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,400
something that's going to be
like, you know, super intense.

549
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Yeah.
Now is it?

550
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Is it, is there an age
demographic for it?

551
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Like nobody under 18, nobody
under 10, nobody under 5, You

552
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,320
know, what's that?
No, it's like I said, it's it's

553
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480
a food.
I, you know, I mean, I, I have

554
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560
given it to my son, right?
I've got a, a bunch of buddies

555
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,640
who are Polynesians and, you
know, their teenage sons will

556
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000
walk in and say, hey, come have
a Shalakava with me and they'll

557
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,720
have, you know, one or two of
them.

558
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Actually, that's kind of an
interesting topic because that's

559
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,040
why I asked, you know, yeah, I,
I gave it to my son when he was

560
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960
going through some.
I mean, I won't go through

561
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960
exactly what happened, but you
didn't have to go through this.

562
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200
It was, it was pretty traumatic
experience for him.

563
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640
And we were not at home and I
could not take him to a doctor.

564
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960
And I needed something to help
him relax because it just was.

565
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040
It was a bad situation.
It was bad, OK.

566
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,680
And it helped and it, it
definitely helped.

567
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Now, is it something that I
would say you should have your

568
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,560
kids drink?
No, I think that you should go

569
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,200
to your doctor and see if
they're OK with it.

570
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,640
But you know, it's and it's
also, I mean, if you look at old

571
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Hawaiian stories, so Hawaiian
ABBA has a lot of interesting

572
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,440
historical background.
There's a variety of Hawaiian

573
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,640
ABBA.
Now they call it ABBA, not not

574
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,880
Kava called Nene.
And Nene is, it was historically

575
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,000
used for teething babies or
fussy babies.

576
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,920
So the Kava root itself, it has
inside of it something called

577
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,520
kavane, which is if you think of
when you go to the dentist, you

578
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,360
have novocaine and it numbs your
mouth.

579
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,120
The Coveain has similar
properties.

580
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,800
It'll numb your mouth, it'll
numb your throat.

581
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240
And so when you chew on the
root, it'll numb the gums.

582
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,920
Interesting.
So if you're a teething baby,

583
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,920
that would help your gums,
right?

584
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,440
So historically, it's been used
for kids.

585
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,480
Yes, I think it's important for
people to know too that a lot of

586
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,120
these cultures, they didn't
abuse these things.

587
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,640
They used them for what they
were intended for, right.

588
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,520
So if you go to Europe, you're
going to find a bunch of kids

589
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,920
who drink and you're going to be
like, holy crap, they're

590
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480
drinking wine at lunch or beer
at dinner.

591
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040
That's the only time they do
that.

592
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,680
And it's maybe right once in a
while, right It they don't look

593
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,480
something that oh, wow, this
tasted good.

594
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320
So I'm going to do it every day.
That's just right.

595
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600
It's yeah.
It's like how Germany drinks

596
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040
warm beer, where Americans drink
cold beer.

597
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Like, you know, if you're
Germany, you're you're, you're

598
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
straight up drinking room
temperature beer because that's

599
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760
how they drink it.
So weird, right?

600
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680
Really weird.
Wouldn't even imagine it.

601
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080
But that, but that goes back to
what Mike just said.

602
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,360
So the cultures, I mean, before
Western medicine, you had all

603
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,760
these cultures all over the
world doing home homeopathic

604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,640
remedies for all different kinds
of things.

605
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,320
And a lot of that was based on
the roots and plants and what

606
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,560
you found in the jungles, in the
forest and all that kind of

607
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,080
shit.
Right.

608
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,880
And it's amazing when you use
it, what the way it was intended

609
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,880
it actually, you know, you're
like, wow, it works if I don't

610
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,920
do it from 7:00 in the morning
until 11:00 at night, right?

611
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Which is I've went through those
periods in my life where if one

612
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720
is good, 100 must be better.
So, yeah, yeah, when you start

613
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,840
using these plants, these food
products, these whatever, you

614
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,520
know, magic mushrooms even,
there's things that if they're

615
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,400
used the way that they were
intended in nature, they're

616
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,240
going to be beneficial to the
human.

617
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,200
And that's what I'm hearing the
longer that you're explaining

618
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,160
this to us, right?
Here's how you use it

619
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,360
effectively, and here's what it
will do for you if done

620
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200
effectively.
Yeah.

621
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,840
Yeah, exactly.
And I don't know, like I feel

622
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840
like I've met so many people who
use Cava for different reasons,

623
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,760
right.
So some people, you know, I know

624
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,120
people that drink it while
they're at work and they just

625
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,760
want to kind of just tone down
the, the, the stress levels at

626
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,400
work.
Personally, I'm not really a guy

627
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160
that you know, does that When I
when I drink Cava, I'm like, I

628
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,840
want to just like chill out and
and I'm not going to be working.

629
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Yeah, so I got your site up
again.

630
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280
So this is the the Kona Kava
basic starter kit.

631
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680
So this.
Is actually a different company.

632
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,320
This is not my company.
My company is called no, it's

633
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,920
all good.
It's my company is called calm

634
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,280
with Kava.
Okay, yeah.

635
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Well Dang it, I gotta get to
your website then I'm.

636
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Sorry, it's all good.
Yeah, it's it's calm with crap

637
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,600
with kava.com now it's calm.
With a calm, with a.

638
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Calm.
No, I, you know, actually Calm

639
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
with Cava was started by a
different guy who was my buddy

640
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,560
named Mike.
And Mike started the company in

641
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,440
2009 when he went on a honeymoon
with his wife Tiffany to Fiji.

642
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,920
And he drank cava for the first
time and he fell in love with it

643
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,680
and he started importing his own
cava because he couldn't find

644
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,480
any good cavas.
He passed away in 2020 and he

645
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
was a good friend of mine.
Wow, this is.

646
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,680
Your and it's, you know, I mean,
it's, it's, it was, it was very

647
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,640
difficult.
But one thing that has always,

648
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,560
you know, kind of struck me that
he said he he said it all the

649
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,560
time was the phrase, you know,
rising tides raise all ships,

650
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160
right?
And I think that that's the same

651
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200
kind of thing.
The cava industry is so small

652
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840
that I feel like if, if anyone
loves Cava, they're going to be

653
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,880
trying my cavas, they're going
to be trying other people's

654
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
cavas.
And so I'm, I'm not, you know,

655
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,680
it's.
I know, but I don't.

656
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,760
I didn't mean, I didn't mean to
unintentionally share somebody

657
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,480
else's website because that's
not what we do.

658
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440
And you did say that earlier on,
but it didn't, it didn't

659
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680
register with me because I
haven't drank my cava today,

660
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Morgan.
And he just threw a bottle 10

661
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,080
years worth of information at us
in 20 minutes.

662
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Yeah, my bad, dude.
No, no, no.

663
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,240
You're good.
No, that's why you're.

664
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Here, man, I mean that in a good
way.

665
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
I just learned a whole bunch in
a very short amount.

666
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960
I love that.
That didn't mean that in a bad

667
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560
way at all.
Man, no, not at all.

668
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
I had no idea what this was
before you started talking.

669
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,760
Sorry.
Yeah, so, so I have the side up.

670
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,640
So there's the different kinds
of types you have listed on your

671
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680
site is micronized instant,
medium, medium grind, instant

672
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,400
Cava extract products, cava
seltzers and bundles.

673
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,520
So I'm assuming the medium grind
is kind of like like coffee

674
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,000
grounds?
Or is it something that you it's

675
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,720
a fine powder?
Yeah, that's actually like the

676
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,960
perfect way to describe it.
Medium grind cava is the

677
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,200
traditional way of doing it.
So they take the cava roots and

678
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,840
they pull them out of the
ground, they wash them off and

679
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,320
then they dehydrate them.
And then we grind them up right

680
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,840
into some sort of a rough
powder.

681
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800
And you take that rough powder
and like you can see at the

682
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,960
bottom there, there's where
there's the sample pack, there's

683
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400
strainers, right?
So you take that strainer, you

684
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
kind of strain it out almost
like a tea, right.

685
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,240
So the FDA actually considers
Kava to be a tea.

686
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000
Oh, OK.
And so that's the yeah.

687
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,720
So that's, that's the
traditional way of doing it,

688
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640
micronized or instant varieties.
You can just mix it right into

689
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,040
your cup and go.
And then we have the those

690
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280
concentrates there that are
like, you know, they're Kava

691
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,000
extract products that are mixed
with juices and things like

692
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680
that.
But the extract products are not

693
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,720
as like intense that, you know,
it's interesting that we we

694
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,600
brought up edible so early on
because Kava has a strange thing

695
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,320
where most things when you do an
extract of it, you know, it

696
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,520
becomes stronger.
Kava is not the same.

697
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Yeah.
Kava extract products, you do

698
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240
not feel the full effects of
Kava.

699
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320
Yeah, wow.
I don't know why, but you get

700
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,720
about 60 to 70% there.
You don't get that.

701
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Extra 30%?
That is strange because you're

702
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,800
right, your liver usually with
THC, it changes in to 11 hydroxy

703
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,560
metabolite, right, which is 4 to
five times more psychoactive

704
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,800
than THC, which is why you freak
out.

705
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,440
You know if you haven't dealt
with those things that are in

706
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600
the files in the back of your
mind that you don't know where

707
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600
there you're going to real
quick.

708
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it's a little bit different,

709
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,040
but you know, that's just kind
of the, the way, the way it

710
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,639
goes.
So all of these cavas though,

711
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,440
you know, they're, they're all a
little bit different and they're

712
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360
all kind of, you know, some are,
like I said earlier, some are

713
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,080
more sedative, some are more
euphoric.

714
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,639
And then we've yeah, those
private reserve ones.

715
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:29,960
Those are like the really fancy
ones.

716
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,440
So sometimes.
Well, that's why I clicked on

717
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,800
it, Morgan, because it like, oh,
private reserve.

718
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,320
It's kind of like the private
Jack when I was drinking, you

719
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,600
know?
Oh, I got to get the best Jack.

720
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,560
Oh yeah, you got to have that.
Right.

721
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,679
Yeah, yeah.
And so there it's a very like

722
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:47,320
different sort of thing because
it's, they're, they're types of

723
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,159
cavas that are kind of small
batch, right?

724
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,719
So if you think of any sort of
farmed product, the vast

725
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,159
majority of the time you're
talking about farms that are

726
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,480
huge, right?
If you think about buying

727
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,960
potatoes, these potato farms are
thousands of acres.

728
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,640
Cava is completely different.
It's mainly farmed by small

729
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,160
holder, you know, farmers that
have 10 or 15 plants in their

730
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,280
backyard and then they use it
like a savings account.

731
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240
So whenever they want to buy,
because they don't really use

732
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,280
money in, in these areas of
Polynesia all that much.

733
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,800
They use money to pay for their
kids schooling, maybe for

734
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,600
tuition or for school uniforms
or they'll sell it for or

735
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,280
they'll, they'll, they'll sell
their cava for like building

736
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,960
materials.
Other than that, they plant

737
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,240
everything that they've got, you
know, and that this is Dahonu,

738
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,000
by the way, this is a great
company that we've partnered

739
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,600
with.
We don't currently have it in

740
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880
stock, but.
I saw that they're all sold out.

741
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Got it.
Yeah.

742
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,400
Yeah, at the Dahonu website
they've got some, but I just

743
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520
don't have any personally.
OK, that's OK, Warehouse.

744
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Right now, But yeah, so it's,
it's a they, they basically have

745
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,240
10 or 15 plants.
Whenever they want to sell one,

746
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680
they'll sell it to someone who's
who's going around collecting

747
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,360
Kava.
So there's not really any large

748
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,040
scale farms of Kava.
OK.

749
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,640
That's crazy.
We also have our own farm on the

750
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,080
Big Island of Hawaii which which
is very excited.

751
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Yeah, I, I, yeah, Either either
Becky told me that or you told

752
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,400
me that in the, in the original
contact with the fact that you

753
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,120
do have a farm in Hawaii.
So that's kind of cool, man.

754
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Yeah, it actually started.
So Mike, the guy we're talking

755
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,640
about earlier who started calm
with Kaba, he had about 100

756
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,000
plants in Hawaii.
And when he passed away, we, we

757
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,880
bought his land and bought some
more land.

758
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,520
And that way now from his 100
plants that he had, we now have

759
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680
15,000 plants.
Wow.

760
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,120
What he planted.
Yeah, so we're, we're, you know,

761
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,880
I mean, I, I feel like we're
kind of doing, you know, we're

762
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040
kind of living out Mike's vision
and trying.

763
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,680
To do you have a picture of this
anywhere, Morgan what that.

764
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,600
Looked like of the farm, yeah.
So if you go to.

765
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120
See that?
Yeah, of course, of course, if

766
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,920
you go to Instagram or you could
go to the website as well, but.

767
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,160
I'm on the website now this this
this website.

768
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Or a different one?
No, the the farm has its own

769
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,000
website, but the Instagram might
be the better kind of way to

770
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360
kind of see what's going on
right now.

771
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,320
It's called puiva, which is
PUIWA.

772
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,760
So in Hawaiian, WS are
pronounced as AV.

773
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:34,160
OK P UW, IA.
PUIWA, are you on Instagram

774
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,400
right now?
I am.

775
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,240
I have not shared it because I
want to make sure I pull it up

776
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:37,600
first.
Yeah.

777
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,600
It's Puiva Farms Hawaii is the
handle.

778
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,280
PUIWA Farms.
Hawaii.

779
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,240
Farms Hawaii.
There it is.

780
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:58,000
OK, I'm going to follow it and
then I'm going to find a good

781
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,400
picture and then I'll share it.
Yeah, so there's 13 varieties of

782
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Hawaiian ABBA and they're all
quite nice.

783
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,400
And if you think about it from
like a genetic standpoint, you

784
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,040
know, these guys, they were
putting cava in their canoes and

785
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,880
travelling across the ocean
hoping to find land, right?

786
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,040
And it is what that tells you is
that they probably took the very

787
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,720
best that they had, they had,
they took their best medicines,

788
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,120
they took their best foods, they
took their best everything.

789
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,920
And so eventually you got these
varieties of, of Kava that

790
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,800
literally went through 2 to 3000
years of, of human, you know,

791
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,080
intervention to, to get the very
best plants.

792
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,000
So.
So is this a Kava plant that's

793
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080
on the screen right now?
Super, super great.

794
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,480
So is this a Kava?
Plant MM Hmm.

795
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Yep, and that's why I wanted you
to pull it up.

796
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,280
They're.
Yeah, they're big.

797
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Man.
They're really big.

798
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,400
And where can this grow?
Yeah, upwards of visual.

799
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,840
Yeah.
So they get upwards of 10 to 12

800
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,080
feet tall, and it grows pretty
much only throughout Micronesia

801
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,840
and Polynesia and parts of
Micronesia as well, so all

802
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480
throughout the South Pacific.
Generally between like 60. 5 and

803
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,960
85°.
So we're not so you and I live

804
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,280
in the Arizona, so I'm not pop.
I'm not putting this because I

805
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,960
live on an acre.
So I'm not taking the section of

806
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,440
my acre off and growing Kava
plants.

807
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,360
I think you'd have a hard time.
Yeah, OK.

808
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,720
It.
Requires a lot of humidity, a

809
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,000
lot of lot of water.
And I was thinking side hustle,

810
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,760
you know, hey Mike, I got hey
Morgan, I got some Kava for you.

811
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Little dry, yeah.
But the other?

812
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,240
Thing is kind of cool.
Makes it difficult, yeah.

813
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,480
This, this, sorry to interrupt
me, but this is kind of cool.

814
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,800
And this little reel is kind of
showing you how you go from from

815
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,880
plant to to to liquid.
So there's the seeds, right?

816
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,240
That's when you're planting it,
starting it.

817
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,200
Yep, Yep.
So those are cuttings that we

818
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,240
took.
OK.

819
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200
So that's the growth.
Yep.

820
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,720
And then there's the roots,
which is where it comes from,

821
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:55,280
right?
Mm hmm.

822
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,080
So that's a few years from that
little seed to what?

823
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,200
The tall plant.
Yes, it takes it.

824
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Wow, wow.
About three years to make Cava.

825
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,280
Wow, you generally, you really
ideally want five years, but

826
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,200
yeah.
So $7079 a bag is is not bad for

827
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200
the amount of time that you
invest to make this product.

828
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,560
It's not.
Well, I mean, most of them are

829
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,440
about 60 to 65 a bag.
But but yeah, I mean, if you

830
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,360
think about what went into that,
it's a it's actually kind of OK

831
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,560
to be to be super frank, right?
Like I didn't realize what I was

832
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,360
getting into when I started to
farm Like it, it turns out it's

833
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,600
like the dumbest thing to farm.
I could have easily bought some

834
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,080
land and started buying like,
you know, planting flowers and.

835
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Corn.
Yeah, literally just plant

836
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,000
anything else and you'll
probably make more.

837
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,520
Yeah.
That's funny.

838
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,320
But I really like Kava, so I'm
just gonna stick with Kava.

839
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,240
Well, that's cool, man.
Well, and you gotta, you gotta

840
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,440
start somewhere.
Obviously.

841
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Yeah, you gotta start somewhere.
Yeah, it's, it's a passion

842
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,280
project, you know, I mean, I, I
think it's something that like

843
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,480
deserves a lot of respect and,
and I really appreciate the

844
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,480
people.
That have been well that's

845
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
that's why you're here man 3.
1000 years and yeah.

846
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,320
Yeah, but that's why you're here
because it's you reached out and

847
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,800
we were intrigued by it.
And you know, this is

848
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,720
fascinating.
It's absolutely fascinating that

849
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,320
again, it's just a root.
It's it's a plant based root

850
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,080
people.
It's nothing that is going to

851
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,680
make you addictive.
You're not going to like lose

852
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,680
your job and your wife and your
family and your house live on

853
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,720
the streets and you know, the
van in the river van.

854
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,120
What is that?
Live in a van down by the river.

855
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,560
This is just going to help you
function.

856
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,760
If you need something to help
you function and you don't want

857
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840
to get shove, you know,
psychotropics down your throat

858
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
because that's what Western
medicine starts with.

859
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,400
Oh, let's medicate, medicate,
medicate.

860
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Instead of like hey, let's find
a homeopathic solution to see if

861
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,240
that works first.
Or even better yet, let's talk

862
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,720
about what you're going through.
They don't even start there

863
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,840
anymore, no.
Yeah, I, I think that like, to

864
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,440
me, I mean, I, I really, you
know, early on I, I mentioned

865
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
how I specifically don't really
want to talk about medical

866
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,320
claims just because of FDA
things.

867
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,840
But I also legitimately think
that like when I go through a

868
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,960
stressful period of my life, I
always go to the thing that

869
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,400
like, you know, I, I go for a
walk, right?

870
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,720
I go talk to my wife.
I go play video games with my

871
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,160
son, right?
Like I do all of these other

872
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,800
things to be healthy, right?
Mentally healthy, right?

873
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,280
And so I think that that when
you, when the first instinct is

874
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,480
to reach for a substance, that's
a problem, right?

875
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,640
Agreed.
And you need to identify, you

876
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,440
know, the root of the issue,
right?

877
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
And so to me, when I drink my
Kava, when I'm preparing that

878
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,080
Kava, it takes me 5 minutes,
right?

879
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,600
And I take that 5 minutes, the
house is quiet and the kids are

880
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,040
asleep and my wife is watching
some terrible TV show that I

881
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,760
don't want to watch.
And I get to have 5 minutes to

882
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,160
myself, right?
And that's the time where I can

883
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,520
kind of meditate and really
think about what's going on.

884
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,240
And that is almost as important
as the Kava itself to me.

885
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,200
You know, all of those other
things.

886
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Cava is just a piece of the
puzzle in my Wellness sort of

887
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,160
routine.
Right.

888
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000
And and see, do you hit right
there Wellness because a lot of

889
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,240
the stuff that Mike and I
started this show based about

890
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,560
around recovery and music,
because that's what we that's

891
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,960
what we know.
We've known each other since

892
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,000
9293.
We both had our struggles with

893
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,240
with addiction.
So the the foundation of this

894
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,840
really was just music and
recovery.

895
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,680
And and we had this stupid clip
11 show where we were talking,

896
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
We had a guest that flaked on us
and we were talking about if one

897
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040
of the guests or show you, you
know, it may be a guest as long

898
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,480
as they're living and breathing
on a zombie.

899
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480
And that, believe it or not,
that sparked this crazy amount

900
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
of people want to come on a show
because like, oh, these guys are

901
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,680
fun and they're funny and
they're not.

902
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,080
It's a conversation.
If you haven't realized that

903
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,720
it's not an interview because
interviews are boring.

904
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,000
But when when you talk about the
Wellness, that's, that's the

905
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,200
root of everything.
I think that that we as a side

906
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,920
need to get back to everything
just is about being well and

907
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,920
taking care of yourself.
We have one body, we have one

908
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,600
soul, we have one vessel.
That's it.

909
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,920
We're on borrowed time.
We're all terminally ill.

910
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,000
So if you can live your life
better by attaching yourself to

911
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,720
this route called cava and help
you get through some struggles

912
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,560
and anxiety and stress or
whatever the case may be, relax,

913
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,440
sleep better at night because it
helps you sleep better at night,

914
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,520
does it not?
Again, I can't really make that

915
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,360
claim, but I can say that I like
to drink it at 10:00 at night.

916
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,960
And it helps you, but it helps
you personally.

917
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,280
Does it help you sleep better at
night?

918
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,120
It it helps me kind of wind down
for sure.

919
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,960
I I have a big problem with like
personally when AI definitely

920
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,400
have an issue with sleeping
right.

921
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,920
Like when I hit the pillow my
mind is going 1000 miles an

922
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,720
hour.
Me too.

923
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,920
I need something to we.
All have that in common for

924
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,120
sure.
Right.

925
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,880
And so it definitely helps me
kind of stop those thoughts from

926
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480
going crazy.
OK, Yeah, yeah.

927
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,080
And and again, we're not, we're
not saying that Kaba is the end

928
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,840
all to everything out there.
We just want people to

929
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,600
understand Kava is not as bad as
as some of the things that

930
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,920
people think it may because
again, when my wife googled it,

931
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,800
oh, it's habit forming.
Is this that she's like, you're

932
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,760
never drinking this, but.
So that was the first, I guess.

933
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,120
We never even went down that
road we'd got.

934
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,280
We squirreled for 40 some
minutes away from that.

935
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400
That's important.
What did Nikki find when she.

936
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,280
Googled that.
I would love to choose that too.

937
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,280
I wish she was here.
I know, I know she's she's a

938
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,280
teacher.
So she's you know, I'll find

939
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,520
out.
I'll find out what she actually

940
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,000
Googled and I'll share it with
you because I have your

941
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,040
information now.
But she just she, she, she just,

942
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,280
she saw bad, bad.
Like right away, that's what

943
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,600
starts.
To come out that's what she saw

944
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,080
so that to be honest with you
Morgan pique my interest even

945
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,080
more because I knew you would
have an answer to that because I

946
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,960
don't think any human unless
your last name is Escobar

947
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:51,520
willingly step into a a
fundamental project to spread to

948
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,640
the world if it's not beneficial
on some level white Pablo just

949
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,240
wanted to get the the cocaine
out there you know and that was

950
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,360
purely money based greed based
power based, but cava learning

951
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,520
from you in just this short
time.

952
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,160
It's not it's not habit for me
it's not addictive.

953
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,040
You can stop it tomorrow after
drinking it for two years and

954
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,840
have no physical side effects
whatsoever.

955
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Well, it's a food, just like.
It's a food.

956
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,120
It's been, it's been consumed
for thousands and thousands and

957
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,720
thousands and thousands of
years.

958
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,000
We've learned it originated in
in not, not Congo.

959
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,840
What was it?
At Vanuatu or.

960
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,200
You know.
Fiji.

961
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,400
Tonga, Samoa.
Right, Tonga, that's what.

962
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,960
So yeah, it's it's it's, it's
something that's used by tribes

963
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,280
through centuries.
So it's like him.

964
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,520
It's.
Been one last thing I think is

965
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,200
very important is that, you
know, people say all sorts of

966
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,320
things about the FDA and they
say all sorts of things about

967
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,600
the World Health Organization.
You may or may not disagree with

968
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,240
them.
I'm not here to, to, you know,

969
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,840
decide whether or not they're
the, they're the greatest

970
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,600
organizations or not.
I can tell you this, the World

971
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Health Organization is something
that the FDA has been a member

972
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,240
of for many years, right?
They recently left, but in the

973
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,560
past, right, the World Health
Organization back in 2007, they

974
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,520
did a very in depth study and
they wanted to see, you know,

975
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,760
one of the first things you'll
see is that Kava causes liver

976
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,080
damage.
And the World Health

977
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Organization did a study in 2007
and they found that that likely

978
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,840
all of the cases of liver damage
a happened in Germany from one

979
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600
company making one
pharmaceutical product stored

980
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,440
from one farm in Vanuatu.
There was an extract product one

981
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,320
of them.
That's it, that's it.

982
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Those levels of liver issues
have never been seen before,

983
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,240
never been seen outside of
Germany, never been seen outside

984
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,160
of that one product.
So the World Health Organization

985
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,840
2007 showed that that product
was to blame, likely because of

986
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,320
contamination.
And or like Co intra.

987
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,400
What's the word I'm looking for?
Basically, when you're using.

988
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Yeah, combing with other
substances, right.

989
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,120
So think of Germany.
We just talked about a lot of

990
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,280
warm beer.
Right.

991
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Yeah, So you're.
Telling me that a bunch of

992
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Germans are drinking something
and it's causing liver damage.

993
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,480
I wonder what it was.
You know what else will damage

994
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,080
your liver if you take it every
day?

995
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640
Ibuprofen.
Ibuprofen adviled, right?

996
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,560
So 2016 the World Health
Organization submitted a

997
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,960
proposal to make Kava a food
worldwide, and indeed they did.

998
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,520
They ratified that in 2020.
The World Health Organization

999
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,480
says that there's very, very
little risk for liver damage.

1000
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,040
The National Institute of Health
said that there's a less than

1001
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,040
one in a million chances of
liver damage from taking Kava.

1002
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080
You know that's a that's a
government sponsored thing too.

1003
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Less than a million, right Sir?
In in in every certain how many

1004
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,800
that's.
Why I bring my example up

1005
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,600
because my example is a
certified drug that will damage

1006
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,600
your liver that nobody talks
about.

1007
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,840
And the first thing that we're
finding when we Google something

1008
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960
that won't damage your liver is
that it will, right?

1009
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,560
There's just so much
disinformation out there because

1010
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,480
you have so many lobbyists in
Washington for the

1011
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,080
pharmaceutical companies who
were saying, hey, we have to

1012
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,120
sell X amount of ibuprofen and
Advil and all these other drugs

1013
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,040
or we're not going to be solvent
and we can't do research and

1014
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,160
development.
And your hospitals and everybody

1015
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,680
are going to suffer because of
it, right?

1016
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,600
There's all these threats that
if we don't make money year over

1017
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,960
year, our health is going to
decline, and actually our health

1018
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,880
is declining because of that.
Well, and check and check this

1019
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,920
out, Nick and I met, met a
couple recently that that they,

1020
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,960
they lived in South Africa the
most of their life, six years in

1021
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,560
Jamaica and then they moved to
Arizona I think 3 years ago.

1022
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,880
They were never sick in South
Africa or Jamaica like they have

1023
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,560
been since coming to Arizona and
living in the United States.

1024
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,400
And it's all because in both
countries it's farm to fresh

1025
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,600
food.
It's farm to table food.

1026
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,880
You get the the fish come
straight from the ocean.

1027
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,280
It's you.
You maybe have a a day length of

1028
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,280
time.
Nothing's processed.

1029
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,280
Bread gets moldy there in three
days opposed to 12.

1030
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,480
They don't have just dyes and
all.

1031
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Right, They don't have all the
bullshit that America does.

1032
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,360
So it's it's even more
interesting that the World

1033
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Health is is behind Cava.
And how long would it take

1034
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,720
America to get behind something
that's that's natural and it's

1035
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,200
grown naturally and it's not
processed like we've talked

1036
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,320
about Mike and I forever when
we're growing up, you know,

1037
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Frosted Flakes was a balanced
part of your diet.

1038
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,720
In what way?
In what way is Frosted Flakes

1039
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,600
balancing your diet, Man, It's
99% sugar, right?

1040
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,960
But that's how we were growing.
That's how we were conditioned.

1041
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,280
That's what we grew up watching.
Because at some point in time,

1042
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,520
the lobbyists decided, hey, we
got to inflate this to get it

1043
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000
out to the public.
You know our grandparents, I

1044
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,360
mean, least mine on my father's
side, like kids.

1045
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,320
You not a carton of cigarettes a
week, probably 2 or 3/5 of

1046
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,920
whiskey a week.
Ate bacon and eggs every single

1047
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,360
day of their lives.
Both of them probably had two or

1048
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
three bypass services but lived
until they were in their 80s or

1049
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,560
90s.
But they grew up on unprocessed

1050
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,040
foods.
But.

1051
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,040
They grew during their
generations Is when they started

1052
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,280
blaming that generation for
eating bacon and eggs and heart

1053
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,400
disease.
They didn't take into account

1054
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,080
what Chris just said.
They drank 1/5 of whiskey a

1055
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,760
week, right?
And they smoked a carton of

1056
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,040
cigarettes, right?
Yeah.

1057
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,200
Was it those two things that
caused the heart disease or was

1058
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,560
it the bacon and eggs?
Exactly.

1059
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,600
We now know that it was the
whiskey and the smoking for

1060
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,560
sure.
Right, right, 'cause you can

1061
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,240
take the frame off the wall and
see the white paint behind the

1062
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,480
yellow ring of smoke.
Look at all the morons that ate

1063
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,640
egg white omelettes for all
those years.

1064
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,800
It's like the egg white.
It really has about 0

1065
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,480
nutritional value.
Yeah, but the yolk has every

1066
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,160
amino acid needed to rebuild the
brain cells that you need, right

1067
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,880
To continue to function.
I get Alzheimer's.

1068
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,200
Exactly, I2 to three eggs a day
and I'm still sitting here live

1069
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,440
and kicking to my cholesterol
level as normal so.

1070
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,880
I just think these points are so
important to reinforce what he's

1071
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,160
saying.
This is a food.

1072
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,880
It's not going to hurt you.
It may not work for everybody.

1073
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,680
That's why I'm always careful to
say this is what works for me,

1074
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,480
right?
You can try it, it may not work

1075
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,080
for you.
There's things that didn't work

1076
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,520
for me that are going to work
for other people.

1077
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Well, that's why I asked Morgan
the question.

1078
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,280
Like, I know I don't want you to
get out there on the podium, say

1079
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,400
this works like this, but that's
why some of my questions were

1080
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,200
specifically related to just you
for your personal use of it.

1081
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,840
A pen because.
People like us, like all three

1082
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,400
of us, our brains don't shut
off.

1083
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,160
They don't shut off.
I go to bed, there's songs on my

1084
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,680
head and I'm like, shut the fuck
up.

1085
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,040
Yeah, I just, I have to meditate
before I go to sleep, like 10

1086
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,960
minutes just to just to shut my
mind off.

1087
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,080
You know, it's like I'm
undiagnosed ADHD, but I'm never

1088
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,000
going to go on medication for it
because it's just not who I am.

1089
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,240
It's just you just got to deal
with it.

1090
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:47,800
You learn how to cope.
You learn how to deal.

1091
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,400
When someone asked me how I can
play a guitar, I say that's

1092
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,440
always going on in here.
So I imagine being in my head,

1093
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,200
right?
I can play it because I hear it.

1094
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,560
It's like a movie playing in my
head that I can regurgitate out

1095
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
into the universe.
But it's always there, you know?

1096
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,440
Yeah, it's there in your
subconscious for recall.

1097
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Just like his lyrics and his
melodies are there for him.

1098
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,960
He can sing all those songs in
his head without the music.

1099
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,080
That's why I can't.
It's a tough.

1100
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Place to be sometimes.
I mean, I, I, I like to play, I,

1101
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,320
I play the guitar, I play the
piano, I play, I play drums a

1102
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,920
little bit, or at least I'm
trying to learn.

1103
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,920
And so I'm, I'm kind of into
that.

1104
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
But you know what I never have
quite figured out in my entire

1105
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,040
life.
I remember when I was younger,

1106
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,960
my, my parents would get on me
sometimes for listening to some

1107
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,440
music that apparently had some
racy lyrics and they're like,

1108
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,560
Oh, you're, and I was like, I
don't even, I'm not even hearing

1109
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,840
what you're hearing.
And I.

1110
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,240
Was like my mother.
I don't.

1111
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,840
I don't even remember what the
lyrics are.

1112
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,320
And by the way, I cannot recite
a lyric, it is not going to

1113
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,080
happen.
So it's wild to me that people

1114
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,560
can do that.
I don't know what's wrong with

1115
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,400
my brain, but I like the music
part.

1116
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,440
But the lyrics, I don't remember
them.

1117
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,400
Not going to happen.
How?

1118
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,600
How old are you?
I'm 38.

1119
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,760
OK, cool.
Just so because I'm 56, Mike's

1120
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,200
50. 52. 52 Yeah, so I wanted
because the music thing arrived.

1121
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:11,560
Shouldn't trust us?
That's what we always said when

1122
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,600
we were your age.
Don't trust anybody over 50.

1123
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Right when I was a kid.
Man, just have to.

1124
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,280
Think about how old I was.
So I mean, maybe.

1125
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,440
No, that's okay.
When I was a kid, man, when you

1126
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,280
when you hit 40, they had the
over the hill parties.

1127
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,480
When you hit when you hit 55,
man, people moved to the adult

1128
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,520
communities and by 65 they were
dead.

1129
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,000
And it's like like 55 now is
like 35, like I told her to

1130
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,160
remember.
Being 25, looking at somebody

1131
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,440
that was 50 thinking fuck you're
almost dead.

1132
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,920
Yeah, and because the way they
looked, just the way that it's,

1133
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,760
it's amazing to me that there's
still some people that I see

1134
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,840
that, yeah, they look 59.
But it's just how they live

1135
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,880
their life.
It's it's, it's how you live.

1136
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,520
It's how you treat your your one
vessel that you have from cradle

1137
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,920
to the grave.
This is what you got.

1138
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,680
So it's it's how do you?
Guys feel like you are.

1139
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,920
I, I, it depends.
It depends.

1140
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:05,840
I, I can, I'm going to say
probably more, more in the 40s.

1141
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,800
I people are shocked when they
find out I have a six year old

1142
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,520
grandson and a three-year old
grandson.

1143
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,720
I would agree with him, you
know, and simply because when I

1144
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:17,800
was, well, when I was four years
younger than you, I was in the

1145
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,320
throes of my addiction and I was
almost dead.

1146
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,000
So by the time I got to be where
you're at now, I had been sober

1147
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,640
for about a year and a half.
So I progressively started

1148
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,320
feeling better.
So I agree with Chris, it

1149
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600
depends on the day.
Because you're going to have

1150
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,120
your joints are what tell you
all the time that you're getting

1151
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,960
older, right?
But mentally and physically, I

1152
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,240
feel better now than I did when
I was 35, for sure, yeah.

1153
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,040
Like when I was when I was 53,
Morgan, I, my son's a Marine.

1154
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:53,520
So every now and then he'll
shoot me something.

1155
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,040
And so when I was 53, he shot me
a text, or maybe I was 52.

1156
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,960
He shot me a text, say, hey,
dad, I ran a 6 minute mile and

1157
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,160
I'm like, I'm coming for you.
OK, old man.

1158
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:06,080
So when I was 53, I, I, I work
at an orange Theory fitness year

1159
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,440
in Arizona.
So you probably heard of that.

1160
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,360
Yeah.
So I used to do Monday,

1161
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,000
Wednesday, Friday.
I do back-to-back classes.

1162
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,680
I'd be at one studio and then go
from one studio to the other.

1163
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,880
While going to that studio, I'd
I'd hydrate, protein drink and

1164
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,440
eat some, you know, protein,
homemade protein balls.

1165
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,320
My wife would make me.
So I hit 5 minutes, 55 seconds

1166
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,480
in studio 1 and then an hour
later I hit 5 minute 55 seconds

1167
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,480
in studio two.
At 53 years old, I can run a

1168
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,240
half marathon an hour and 48
minutes.

1169
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,800
I can hold a plank for 9 1/2
minutes.

1170
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,920
None of this shit could I do
when I was 30.

1171
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:41,760
I can't do that.
What's I'm saying, so it's, and

1172
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,680
I'm not saying that the bragging
vote, I'm just saying it's,

1173
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,800
it's, it's number one is because
my son pushed me because I was

1174
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,840
going to catch him.
So he held, he held a 3 minute

1175
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:49,320
plank.
I'm on.

1176
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,120
I'm not going to get you son.
And I just kept going until I

1177
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,960
couldn't hold it anymore.
And then my best I could do was

1178
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,960
9 minutes, 34 seconds because
then I just had to fall down.

1179
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
But that's it.
But that goes to the answer to

1180
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,000
your questions.
Like how do you feel?

1181
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,080
Well, it depends on the day
because the days that I would

1182
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,280
work out before I broke my foot,
I was doing 8 workouts a day

1183
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,800
with Orangetheory and another 10
workouts during the week because

1184
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,960
I was doing 75 hard.
I did 75 hard twice.

1185
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,520
The second time is when I
realized I broke my foot and

1186
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,000
that maybe just focus on upper
body for eight months, which was

1187
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,760
great, which has helped me hold
the plank for as long as I did.

1188
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,160
But I spend Thursdays, I live on
an acre, so I spend Thursdays

1189
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,720
doing my yard and every Friday
morning I wake up man is fuck me

1190
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,640
because it's I, I have grass.
So I have AI have a tractor, I

1191
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,200
have weed whacking.
I have to take grass to the

1192
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,640
dumpster, you know what I mean?
So it's constant movement for 2

1193
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,720
1/2 three hours.
So of course, regardless if

1194
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,520
you're 30 or 55, your, your,
your body's going to be sore

1195
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,840
after that.
I've learned to turn it into a

1196
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,480
workout, which people think I'm
nuts walking across my yard with

1197
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,600
the bands of grass like this,
you know, but it's, you know,

1198
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,880
it's one of those things that it
keeps you young because it keeps

1199
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,560
you active.
You keep constantly moving and

1200
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,880
then you know it's, but there
are days when I wake up like I'm

1201
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,160
not getting up, I'm going to
sleep in.

1202
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,480
I'm going to stay in bed for an
hour.

1203
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,880
I think the key for most people,
and I've heard it from everybody

1204
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,280
who said what Chris just said,
that you have to be active to

1205
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080
stay young.
But the most important part of

1206
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,720
that 100% is stretching.
The reason that people start to

1207
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,080
get hunched over and they
shuffle their feet is because

1208
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,160
they got up and they sat in a
chair and then they walk to sit

1209
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,880
in another chair and then they
walk to lay on the couch and

1210
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,880
then they walk to get in the
shower, to sit down, to put

1211
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,640
their makeup on or whatever.
You don't realize that you are

1212
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,760
sitting so much, right?
That's the one thing that I'm

1213
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,720
lucky at my job.
I walk like 4 miles a day, every

1214
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,680
day.
So you're going to burn more

1215
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,760
calories walking than doing
anything.

1216
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,880
But you have to stretch.
That's the first thing I do when

1217
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,280
I get up in the morning.
Yeah, it's it's interesting that

1218
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,280
you guys bring this up.
I, I don't know when you guys

1219
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,040
started to become super fitness
guys or if you guys have always

1220
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,520
done.
I'm not I, just I.

1221
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Started when I when I stopped
drinking.

1222
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,000
Believe it or not, my my
addiction turned to working out

1223
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,240
because I I when I stopped
drinking, I was 200, two, 134

1224
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,800
lbs, six feet.
I was bloated, alcohol bloated

1225
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,200
and my wife and I kind of went
through a thing.

1226
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,240
So I just, I, I, I needed
something.

1227
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,880
So I've talked about it before
on the show that addicts have to

1228
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,920
chase something.
We need something to go after,

1229
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,200
right?
You're, you're a heroin addict.

1230
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,400
You're chasing that.
My, I had some family member who

1231
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,520
was, who was struggling with
heroin towards the end of their

1232
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,080
addiction.
They were chasing the needle

1233
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,640
piercing their skin.
It wasn't the high, it was is

1234
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,480
this needle going to kill me?
Which Which, if you think about

1235
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,280
it from an attic standpoint,
we're chasing something.

1236
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,040
We're chasing the result of
something.

1237
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,160
You're chasing the first time,
every time.

1238
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Right.
So when I stopped drinking, I

1239
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,920
had to replace that with
something.

1240
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,000
So I just, I walked, I drove
past the gym.

1241
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,320
I'm like, oh, I'm going to go
work out now.

1242
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,640
I'm going to go back doing that.
And that's what it did.

1243
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,200
That's what all of a sudden
hyper focus from no drinking to

1244
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,480
working out.
And that's just been constant

1245
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,640
since.
Because you really is, Yeah.

1246
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,520
It really is as simple as that.
You're chasing the first time

1247
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,920
every time, Yeah.
You need.

1248
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720
You need that.
That's the most euphoric your

1249
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,760
brains ever felt, and it will
never feel that way again,

1250
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,800
right?
You can't ever, can't ever

1251
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,480
experience.
It's like the first time you had

1252
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,320
sex.
It's just that much less

1253
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,320
adventurous the next time.
And the next time you know you

1254
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,840
have.
Wait, you guys are having sex?

1255
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,280
No, I'm just equating that.
I'm just equating that to

1256
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,400
addiction.
No, but it's but this that's the

1257
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,240
but that's what I'm that's kind
of my point.

1258
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,520
We the dopamine right?
When you when I I never get

1259
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,920
runner's high, which sucks, but
when I when I hit those miles

1260
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,680
under 6 minutes back-to-back, I
was I was the first time I was

1261
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,040
like, holy shit, like I was
emotional.

1262
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,280
I'm like, I can't believe I did
that.

1263
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,880
I started at 740 mile down to
555.

1264
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,200
And it's a reward.
It was, it was like, and I and

1265
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,520
part of it was like, you know, I
got my son.

1266
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,640
I beat him and I rubbed it in
his face, man, Like I'd rubbed

1267
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,040
it in his face.
Do you think that you could rub

1268
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,960
in his face?
Do you think you could take your

1269
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,800
son in a fight?
No, my son's a Marine.

1270
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,120
He's a black belt martial
artist.

1271
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,400
There's no way.
There's no way My son would kick

1272
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,000
my ass.
He would kick my ass.

1273
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,760
I literally just, I literally
just heard Joe Rogan and I

1274
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,040
laughed my ass off.
There was a comedian sitting

1275
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,280
across from him and Eric Griffin
and Eric Griffin said this jiu

1276
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,680
jitsu stuff says explain this to
me.

1277
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,760
Practically.
And Joe said you want me to

1278
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,280
explain it to you?
Practically, if you and I were

1279
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,720
in a fight, I would kill you.
That was the end of the state.

1280
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,800
Practical.
And Eric said, no, I mean, like,

1281
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,920
you know, in real life, if we
were going to tussle and Joe's,

1282
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,360
like, I would kill you, I would
grab you by the neck and I would

1283
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,480
just keep squeezing until your
brain didn't function anymore.

1284
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,680
And then he got the point.
It's like, yeah, you know, we

1285
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,560
are not the same.
I am a black belt in jiu jitsu

1286
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,640
and you are not.
I will kill you.

1287
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Yeah.
Right.

1288
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,360
And the reason I.
Asked.

1289
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,240
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry.

1290
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,000
Yeah, Go ahead.
Go.

1291
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,400
No go.
Ahead the the reason that I

1292
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,800
asked is because I, I started
doing weight training about a

1293
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,880
year and a half ago and I felt
really great sense and you know,

1294
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,800
I feel like it's been you know,
I don't know why I'd never

1295
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,920
really did it before.
You know, I feel like I'm, it's,

1296
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,120
it's strange to start, I
suppose, this old doing that,

1297
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,600
but it's been very helpful.
And my whole life I've always

1298
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,920
thought, you know, my dad worked
out all the time and he, he

1299
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,800
could take me all the time,
right.

1300
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,960
And it was only up until he had
his heart attack about six

1301
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,120
months ago, where I, you know,
he's a lie now think of thank

1302
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,680
goodness, but only now do I feel
like I could actually take my

1303
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,120
dad, which is why I asked you,
do you think you could take your

1304
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,400
son still?
You know, but I was never a

1305
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,760
Marine.
So that's, it's the very big

1306
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,920
difference between son and me.
Well.

1307
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,160
Even but yeah, yeah, my son's a
bad ass.

1308
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,320
But yeah, I just, I've, I'm
trained and I went through a

1309
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,040
period where I went through an
executive, executive protection

1310
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,720
training because I deal with, I
deal with some people when I

1311
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,760
sell houses that there's, there
could be Ndas sign, you know,

1312
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,600
and I got a bug in my ear from
somebody I was working with.

1313
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,040
He said, oh, he should do this.
So I, I could, I can, I could

1314
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,360
disarm somebody.
If, if, you know, if I walked

1315
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,320
into a store or something, saw
somebody that was, I could tell

1316
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,120
was having AI could easily
disarm them, you know, and, and

1317
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,040
put them on the ground.
But to, to, to fight a Marine,

1318
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,840
there's no fucking way anybody
in the military.

1319
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,120
I would not.
I mean, I look like I'm in the

1320
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,840
military.
I get it all the time because

1321
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,880
the way I look and I'm just I
thank people when they think I'm

1322
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,840
in the military because I'm just
I'm a military family.

1323
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,840
I couldn't get in.
That's another long story.

1324
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,520
But yeah, my son would kick my
ass if he chose to.

1325
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,200
I don't think he I don't think
he could bring himself to to

1326
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,000
throw a punch at his old man.
But we have a really good.

1327
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,320
I don't see that happening.
You know, I don't either, you

1328
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,200
know, watch yourself.
My daughter, on the other hand,

1329
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,040
my daughter, I when my daughter,
my I've seen my daughter fight.

1330
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,680
She could fucking wail on
anybody, man.

1331
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,120
She's she's just hard to go, but
you piss her off, man.

1332
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,040
She'll go at you with a
vengeance like you wouldn't

1333
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:16,080
believe, which is pretty cool.
Pretty awesome in a nice way,

1334
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,960
right?
Not psycho, but you know.

1335
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,520
No, that's a good quality for a
woman to have is to be able to

1336
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,120
defend herself for sure.
So we've run a little late.

1337
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,760
Morgan, I know you.
You had your calendar till

1338
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,600
11:30, but I want to share your
site one more time because I

1339
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,480
want people to go buy your stuff
and and learn more about you

1340
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,600
because this is what we do.
And you are welcome at any time

1341
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,840
you want to come back on the
show.

1342
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,440
If, if something changes, if you
have some new stuff going on, if

1343
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,320
you have some new lines you want
to share, if you want to just

1344
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,720
update us on production things
like that anytime.

1345
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,000
You're welcome, man.
So it's calm with kava.com and

1346
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,000
that's the calm is with the K.
This is the website, all the

1347
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,760
products like you got Shopkava
up here.

1348
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,640
We talked about it, the
different kinds of types.

1349
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,400
I hate when websites do that.
You got all these different

1350
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,280
kinds of types of Kava.
Definitely go through it.

1351
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,200
You got varieties.
Mike and I have learned so much

1352
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,240
with you being on here right
now.

1353
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,600
Which.
I'm going to do a ton more

1354
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,880
research now too.
This has been awesome man.

1355
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,440
There's your Kava gummies.
We we kind of talked about the

1356
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,520
Kava gummies, but we didn't
circle back to because ADHD.

1357
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,880
But there's your Kava gummies.
Yeah, well, and and if you guys

1358
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,640
ever want to drop by, I know
Chris, you're here in I can drop

1359
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,160
by Mike.
'S normally OK, well in the

1360
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,040
middle of the.
Porn field.

1361
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,480
It'd be a long trip, Mike, but
you're invited as well.

1362
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,200
If you ever want to kind of come
by and check out the facility

1363
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,680
here where we import all of the
cover roots and grind it up.

1364
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,360
I'd I'd love to show you around.
I would love to do that, Morgan,

1365
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,760
because then I can make, if it's
cool, if I'm allowed to, I can

1366
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,960
make a little video and stuff
and I can actually put it on our

1367
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,720
page that.
Would be awesome and bring your

1368
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,880
wife.
Yeah, Yeah, I will.

1369
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,600
And help people understand, you
know, the benefits of Kava as

1370
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,480
opposed to the and I don't know
how much it's bad.

1371
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,000
I just know what she originally
researched.

1372
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,440
And that's again that made me
wanted to have you on even more

1373
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,280
so just to kind of talk about it
and the benefits of it.

1374
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,040
Because again, Wellness should
be a movement in America at

1375
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,800
least, because we are the
fattest country in the world.

1376
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,560
And that's all because of what
we're putting in our body from

1377
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,160
processing.
You watch the show with Apache

1378
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,000
Joe.
We've had nutritionalist on the

1379
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,800
show that I've talked about so
many things when it comes to

1380
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,720
health and taking care of your
bodies.

1381
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,240
I think this is is right up
there with that.

1382
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,760
It's something that's root
based.

1383
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,040
It's been used for centuries and
it's, you know, it's something

1384
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,000
that may help you get through
some struggles you're having

1385
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,440
with as opposed to going to a
doctor and taking psychotropic

1386
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,160
medications.
We're not saying advocating for

1387
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,600
that.
We're just saying, you know?

1388
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,600
It's an option.
It's an option.

1389
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,080
It's a it's a homeopathic
option, which is cool.

1390
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,640
So calm with calvin.com, that's
with Kay's.

1391
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,040
We wrap the show up like this
every single time, which I think

1392
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,080
you'll appreciate.
Morgan, if you're feeling

1393
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,960
suicidal or depressed, don't do
it.

1394
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,080
Go scream in a pillow.
Go journal, go work out, go

1395
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,240
outside or run.
Find somebody to talk to you.

1396
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,160
If you cannot find someone to
talk to you, text 988.

1397
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,160
Somebody is there ready and
willing to help you get talked

1398
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,840
off that ledge, talked off that
Cliff.

1399
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,280
Don't leave a hole in somebody
else's heart because you don't

1400
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,280
wake up tomorrow because
tomorrow, believe it or not,

1401
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,960
will be a better day with you in
it for the Kristen Mike show.

1402
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,720
I'm Chris.
He's Mike.

1403
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,040
This is Morgan Smith of calm
with kava.com.

1404
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,360
That's calm with AK kava.com.
Check him out, try his products.

1405
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,040
He's got a sample one in there
that's pretty legit.

1406
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,160
I'm going to grab that and just,
you know, we're going to tell

1407
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Nikki, hey babe, we're going to
try this and see what she says

1408
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,920
for the Kristen Mike show.
Everybody have a great day.

1409
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,080
Love you, brother.
Thank you so much for your time.

1410
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,200
Thank you for your time.
And we know that time is a

1411
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,080
valuable commodity.
So we really, really, truly

1412
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,520
appreciate you coming on and
sharing your story with us and

1413
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,760
your product.
And I'm going to take you up.

1414
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,640
We're going to schedule time for
me to come out.

1415
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,880
Check out your facility.
Excellent.

1416
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Awesome start to be here.
Thanks so much.

1417
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,480
Yeah, don't leave yet.
Once we sign off, we're going to

1418
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,240
make sure you're uploaded.
See everybody, You got it.