#162 - NFL, Mental Health, and the Music Industry

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And we're live.
We're live, ladies and

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gentlemen, boys and girls, all
around the world.

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Twitchers all around the world.
All around the world, who

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everybody listens to him.
I really AM.

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Yeah.
There you go, and there you

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have.
It it's us.

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That's us.
It's you and me and him.

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It's us, they and them and Mike,
the two people that.

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Run the show the other 97
prepositions that exist today.

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Zer zer, zer zer happy happy
Friday.

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I was going with my Santa hat
and I put it on.

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I'm like, I like fucking stupid
in that, so I'm not wearing it.

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Why would you look stupid in a
sand?

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You don't look stupid in
anything.

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I did I look stupid in a Santa
hat.

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Nah.
That's my applause.

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Can't believe that I remember
that from like episode 3.

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Hi, Mikey.
Everything's going well.

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What up, Mike?
We're talking about hookers and

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blow today, Mikey, so stay
tuned.

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Not really.
So.

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So how are you, Mike?
I'm doing fantastic other than

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I'm a little cold.
I don't feel I ever ask you how

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you are when we do this.
We just kind of dive right in.

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So.
I know how my feelings get hurt.

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I know, So let's talk about Mike
Michaels.

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Today, now I got nothing.
OK, so did you watch football

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last night the the Seattle game?
Dude, if anything, if anything

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tells you the NFLI don't want to
say it's it's rigged because

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again, if it was rigged, Peyton
or Eli Manning wouldn't have

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beat Tom Brady twice in Super
Bowls because that tarnishes

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Brady's legacy, right on some
level.

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Or it might not have been rigged
then and it is now.

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Right.
But 30 to 16, the Rams are

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ahead.
Then all of a sudden, Matthew

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Stafford starts sucking like
he's never played football.

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Yes.
Gimme field goals are missed.

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What is always 99% of time
caught is dropped.

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This is for the Rams side of the
ball.

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And then the the Seattle wins it
with with a field goal in

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overtime right with and they win
by 1.

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So that had to have fucked with
the spread.

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It had to have fucked with the
over under.

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I didn't bet on it.
I.

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Forgot.
I did.

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I took the Rams.
Still took the Seahawks in his

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infinite wisdom, but he never
should have won that game to

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your.
Point no, no.

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I mean, I was happy for him.
I'm like, congratulations.

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But I've never seen, well, I'm
not going to say never because

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the scenarios played out before.
It played out in the Packers

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game back in October, But it's
hard to believe, to your point,

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that a team could play as well
as the Rams did, right, for the

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first two quarters of that game.
And then literally, I couldn't

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agree with you more.
They came out in the second-half

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and it's like, did everybody
forget how to play football?

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Did they all take mushrooms
while they're in the locker room

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and they're just kind of like,
look at the grass and.

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And see, the thing that caught
my eye is in the fourth quarter

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they were up 30 to 16.
Yeah.

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And it was 3 consecutive series
where the Rams went three and

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out.
And a couple of those series

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would have extended had the ball
has not been dropped.

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And they were good throws.
And some of Stafford's throws

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were so erred over overthrown
underthrown.

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It's like that one bookies that
one mobster said that that

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because now I think of that
every time, right?

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You I don't know if you saw it
out, but there's something on

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social media where you told me
about it, right?

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I'm not going to find it.
Gangster was talking about some

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obstetaries like if if you owe
the mob, you're going to pay

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like that's just it.
I don't care how you're going to

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pay, but you're going to pay.
So you're going to either miss a

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field goal, you're going to
overthrow a pass, you're going

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to under throw a.
Field goal he'd missed all

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season.
Right.

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You're going to take a sack,
you're going to fumble the ball,

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you're going to do what we tell
you to do until all your debts

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are paid.
Now, here's what I will tell you

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if you watch that kick, it might
be the greatest artist in the

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history of missing a field goal.
I mean, how did you do that to

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make it?
I don't know, man.

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If you've kicked a million
footballs, I guess you would

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know how to make it.
Keep drifting to the right,

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right?
Yep, Yep.

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Maybe that's not as hard as it
seems.

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No, it's just it's some weird
shit, man, and I don't.

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Al Michaels had literally just
gotten done saying yeah, he was,

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or maybe it was a color guy.
It doesn't matter.

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They had literally just gotten
done saying he has never.

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He was like 38 for 38 this year
or something.

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Yep, and.
Then everybody and their brother

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was like, oh, he missed it.
I found I found it.

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I got to get the volume on it.
There it is.

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OK, Let me see if this will
work.

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If it if I could pull this one
off.

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It's a screen share.
It's it's pretty cool because

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this is going to summarize.
Yeah, I'd like to hear this.

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Yeah.
Pay well.

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I don't have the money right
now.

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OK, let me tell you something.
I'm a big fan of yours.

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I love the team.
I support the team.

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You don't have to pay me all at
once, OK?

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Pay me five points a week on the
250 in cash.

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Every Friday you bring it here.
But what they don't know that I

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know is that even though we cut
them off, they're around town

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gambling with another bookmaker
thinking we're going to make the

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money back.
So before you know what, they're

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in debt from 56700 thousand.
So now I bring them to me after

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the interest stops and they
said, look, how are you going to

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pay me back?
You got a rich uncle, go rob a

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back.
I don't care what you do.

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Bring me my money.
I got another way to work this

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out.
Here's how we're going to do it.

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OK, You're a quarterback, OK,
You're favored to win by 10

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points the first time.
First three times you get the

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ball, you put it in the hands of
the other receiver, put it in

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the defensive men's hands.
You're a running back.

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You get the ball, you put it on
the ground first three times,

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you let me worry about the rest.
You're going to do this until I

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tell you, you know it's a deal.
You owe me 250,000.

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How you going to pay?
Amazing, right?

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That was an actual mobster who
actually bookie whatever you

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want to call it, right?
Sharing the truth of if you owe

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me money, this is what he's
going to do and what does he

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talk about?
If you're a quarterback, what

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are you going to do?
You're.

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Either going to throw
interceptions or you're going to

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do a lot of three and out.
Right.

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What happened last night in the
fourth quarter?

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Uh huh, Uh huh.
He's one of the most accurate

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passers in NFL history.
I know.

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Not just this.
Year, right?

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He's one of the most accurate
passers that has ever graced the

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professional football game.
He's going.

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He was throwing him 2.
Feet above people's heads.

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He's going to be the MVP.
He's going to be the MVP that

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that that's the talk about him
this year because Mahomes had a

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shitty year.
Nobody else is really Lamar

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Jackson shit year, borough shit
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Think about it.
What are the quarterbacks have

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stood out?
Justin Fields shit year

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comparison, right?
Barclays shitty shitty fucking

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year.
Shitty got he got paid.

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I don't need to do this anymore,
you know?

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Well, here's a good comparison.
OK, that would be like going to

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a Van Halen concert.
And for the first, say, it's a 2

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1/2 hour concert.
For the first hour, Eddie is the

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Eddie we all know and love.
And then they take a quick

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little break to do a drum solo
and he comes out and he plays

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like he's playing a Hello Kitty
guitar.

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You know, it's out of tune.
He's hitting the wrong notes.

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And unfortunately for him, when
he was going through some of his

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horrible years, that actually
happened.

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But.
Right, right.

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I just heard Sammy tell a tragic
story about that reunion tour

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with him and David Lee Roth.
And that was during Eddie's

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really bad time.
And he tried, Sammy tried to get

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out of it and they were going to
sue him for the rest of the

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money that they were going to
make on that tour.

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So he said, I, I powered through
the rest of it, but it was so

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sad to watch.
You know what was?

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That would be the equivalent.
Elaborate.

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Share the story.
Share the story about why I have

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no idea what you're talking
about.

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Oh, Eddie went through a period
where he was all messed.

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Up.
Well, I knew I knew that, but

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but I mean share the story that
Sammy shared because I've never

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heard this.
It was exactly what I it was

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exactly what I just described.
He was hitting bad notes.

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Or they would have a set list
just like you and I would put a

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set list together.
Imagine if you thought Freeman

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was coming next and I started
playing.

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Listen to your sin that kind of
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Happened.
That was the first scenario that

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Sammy described was they would
have a set list and he would

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literally start playing the
wrong song.

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So like Alex is playing the drum
beat to the song that he thought

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he was supposed to be playing,
and when everybody heard the

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guitar come in, Eddie's
completely playing the wrong.

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Oh.
Shit, and I hate to bash on

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Eddie again because I got
crucified on YouTube for saying

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that he sucked in the studio,
which is not really what I

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meant, but right, right, right.
I went through a bad period in

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my life too where I couldn't
play a guitar either.

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You know, if you're messed up on
drugs, you think you can play,

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but you can't.
Yeah.

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But it was just heartbreaking to
hear him, to hear Sammy tell the

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story because you could see it
in his eyes and hear it in his

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voice.
He loved that man.

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Yeah, well, yeah.
You know, he and he said when it

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was good, it was good, man.
It was better than anything.

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Just like you describe our
relationship with writing songs,

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right?
It was the best it it, it had

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ever been for Sammy.
It was just effortless and easy

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and the same kind of, you know,
scenario that you describe you

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and I sitting in a room, right?
And that's how I feel about it,

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too.
Yeah.

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So then to have to watch your
brother, right?

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Who people consider a living
legend at the time, right?

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Still struggle and.
Suffer like that?

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Yeah, well.
Yeah, now he's.

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I know what you mean now.
He's just a legend.

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I know what you mean.
But that's my equivalent of what

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happened in that Rams game last
night was literally the team

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that came out in the second-half
was just not.

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They didn't even look like a
professional football team

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anymore.
No.

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And, and Sean McVay is one of
those, one of those guys, he has

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a photographic memory.
If you've ever watched him post

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game he can tell you.
That good, that young by

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accident?
No, and he can he can basically

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tell you the entire game, play
by play and tell you what

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happened each individual snap
for what I mean, it's amazing

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the guy's memory and and
photographically, you ask him a

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question about, you know, the,
the, the 7th play on the third

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drive, you know, and the motion,
he can tell you exactly what

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happened.
So the guy's fucking smart as

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hell.
And and they like to your point,

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he was one of he was the
youngest coach, I think at the

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time to make head coach in the
NFLI.

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Think he was like 34 or
something, I believe when he

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first started coaching the Rams,
right.

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So there's no way that they come
out and suck that bad.

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Well, I don't know a few.
Times.

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I don't know if you saw this
particular scene, but it was

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about the third or fourth time
that Stafford had thrown the

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ball so far above the receiver's
head he went to the sideline and

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McVeigh was literally like, you
could read his lips.

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What the fuck?
Yeah, yeah.

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So I'm glad you brought him up,
because I meant to say that

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earlier.
Yeah, there was a a scene right

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there where and Stafford just
kept walking by him and

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Mcveigh's like, what the fuck?
And he just kept turning around

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and Stafford just kept walking.
So that makes that video that we

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just watched.
Not that I'm not saying that's

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what's happening, but I know why
that video goes through your

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head when you see scenarios like
that.

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It's a little.
I think it's happening.

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I, I think it's happening now
more than it ever has.

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Because if of all the bullshit
we've seen this year with the

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referees, with certain players
and how they're not playing how

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they normally play, I, I think
it's, I think, I think it was

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back up.
I never thought that allowing,

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legalizing gambling was going to
be, was going to be productive

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for the world on the scale that
it is now, right?

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You can go to Vegas and gamble.
You can go to Laughlin and

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gamble Atlantic City Jersey
gamble, right?

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But I never thought going grand
scale was going to be beneficial

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to anybody.
I never thought putting a team

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in Vegas, a professional team
was going to work.

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Because I guarantee you there is
there is mob ties, there's

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gambling, there's shit going on
there that people don't realize.

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And I think because the NFL has
embraced gambling, they do it on

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all their all their pod, all
their all their pre game shows.

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They, you know, I mean, he's
going to run for this amount.

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They're like, they're totally
being bookies.

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They're totally being, you know,
remember the movie what 2 for

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the money with with with Matthew
McConaughey and and Al Pacino.

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Matthew McConaughey is a right.
It's that shit coming to life.

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And I think the more and more
you have inconsistent penalties

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being called, not being called
and play like Matthew Stafford

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did last night, more and more
people are going to be suspect

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to what is actually going on.
And there's no way to police it,

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right?
You can test for drugs, right,

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PE DS, but you can't test for
gambling.

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You know, like the one dude from
the Dodgers, right?

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His brother got bust caught,
caught gambling and nothing

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happens to the old older
brother.

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But what the fuck?
Pete Rose gets banned for life

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until he dies and then all of a
sudden he's reinstated.

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So I just think there's a whole
bunch of shit going on behind

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the scenes.
And I think the NFL is now, like

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you said, it's an entertainment
business, is an entertainment

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empire.
And their ties with gambling is

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going to make them that much
more of a financial windfall on

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some levels.
Because I don't think it's too

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far removed from the whole, I
don't know, you know what I'm

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trying to say.
It seems it's Slim Shady, man.

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It's Slim Shady.
Your point was so stellar I had

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a response in there somewhere
and it drifted away.

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Sorry.
No, it's it's all good.

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But it I go.
Ahead, I agree with you in the

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fact that, oh, I know what I was
going to say.

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We were sitting there one day.
It was your point about all the

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pregame and postgame.
Well, pregame for sure, with the

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sticker across the bottom that
shows you, you know, what

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Mahomes is going to throw for
how many touchdowns Derrick

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Henry's going to run, for what
the money line bet is, what the

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spread is.
I don't know.

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It might have been three or four
years into when it was legalized

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gambling.
That thought hit steel like a

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ton of bricks.
He was like, look at that man.

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Everything they're talking about
and everything we're watching,

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all they're talking about is
money, right?

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Exactly.
Now we're talking straight up

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gambling on the pregame show
without really saying it, but if

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you're reading between the lines
1,000,000% you just hit the

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multi billion dollar question.
It's not more.

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Does that affect the game?
It does affect the game because

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you're going to, people are
going to.

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I didn't, I didn't bet on
anything last night or this week

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and I totally forgot.
I can still do something, but I

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didn't.
So I watched, I watched the

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Seattle game for about the 1st 5
minutes and then Nick and I

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watched a documentary, which I'm
talk about second.

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And then I went back to rapid,
rapid highlights.

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And then I kind of I catch it up
like with what, 12 minutes for

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14 minutes left in the fourth
quarter.

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So I didn't see the whole game
itself, but I could tell from

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what I saw initially to where I
came in and how Matthew Stafford

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was just straight up being like,
dude, who are you?

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Like he was as accurate as he is
in any game in the first half.

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I.
Saw from I saw from 10 minutes

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in the first quarter OK through
the rest of the game.

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Yeah.
He was like threading the

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needle.
That's how they scored all those

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points, right?
They only kicked I think 2 field

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goals in the first half.
The rest of them were obviously

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all touchdowns.
That's how they ended up with 30

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points.
The the other the other things

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that that stand out to Nakua.
Hell of a fucking receiver,

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right?
Oh, and that dude is just money.

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He had a career game, but then
he does some stupid

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unsportsmanlike penalty comp.
Like, really?

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Here was the turning point in
the game, and I think you might

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have missed this, but did you
see when the Seahawks, what you

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said you started in the fourth
quarter?

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Right, I saw this two point
conversion thing.

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OK, but you didn't see the
interception when Seattle was

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getting ready to score?
Yeah, I saw that right on the

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big guy, right?
Yeah, that was the turning point

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in the game when that
interception happened and they

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went three and out.
The Rams were a different team

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from that point forward.
Yeah, yeah.

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That literally was the turning
point in the game.

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I was like, you know, Seattle's
getting ready to score.

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I'm still, I'm on the money line
with the Rams because they were

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actually an underdog in that
game.

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They were getting.
Yeah, they should have been

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point in.
The half, yeah, because

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Seattle's at home.
So I'm like, I'll take arguably

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the best offense this year at
plus money, right?

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Yeah.
At that point when they went

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three and out, all the sudden
everything we just described for

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the last 10 minutes unfolded.
Yeah.

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He couldn't hit a receiver.
You had the stupid

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unsportsmanlike penalty conduct.
The defense quit.

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Where would?
That's the other conversation we

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haven't had.
Where is the Rams defense that

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was in the first half that held
Seattle to what, 6 point?

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How many they have in the Yeah.
6. 6 or 10 or whatever.

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Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.

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I don't.
It's it's that's the things that

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going to that's going to be the
thing the cloud that hangs over

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the NFL now because they're
they're allowing gambling to be

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so prevalent in I've.
Been saying it over and over

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again, it's turning into the WWE
and if that's what it's going to

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become, that's fine because the
WWE actually makes more money

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than any other sport on earth.
So it's not like it's not

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successful.
But let's call us, let's call it

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what it is, right?
Right.

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If we're not playing a
legitimate game anymore, let's

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let everybody know about it.
Right, so there was there was a

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hot mic on a game of those.
OK, hold on.

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It's always nice to know what
people are really saying and how

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they really feel.
Right.

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OK, we're going to share.
I wanted to make sure I found

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the right one because when I hit
that, when I hit hot mic, about

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15 different racial ones came
up.

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And I'm not, I'm not doing any
racial crap.

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No, no need for that.
So let me know if you can hear

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this see.
When I have Super Bowl 60 on

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February 8th at Levi Stadium in
Santa Clara, CA, then it will be

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our honor at the ABC for the
Super Bowl 61 on Valentine's Day

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2027 right here.
It's so fine Englewood and the

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other one we know will be Super
Bowl 62 February of 2020, eighth

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in Atlanta and you can be my
date on that one.

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Yes, up to the 25 a 16 card
return.

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We'll be honored to be here in
this great stadium that is in

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it's.
Coming 6th.

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Year.
Have you seen the script?

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Do you know who's going to play
that one?

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Yeah, I saw it.
OK OK so the boys and girls

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we're going to do that again.
This is my favorite Troy Eggman

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Joe Buck sarcasm.
Hate them both.

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Can't stand listen them which is
why I watch Manning cast.

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Me too.
Wait, missed it here.

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You can hear this right, Mike?
Yeah.

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OK.
Why do I keep missing it?

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Come on.
It happened have.

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You seen the script?
Joe Buck asks Aceman.

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Have you seen the script?
Did you see the script?

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Do you know who's going to play
in that one?

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And Aikman says yeah.
I saw it, yeah.

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It's like this shit isn't
made-up, This is this is

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accidentally caught.
And the fact that nobody's and

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the fact that nobody's really
talking about this blows my

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mind.
There you go.

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Have you seen the script?
Do you know who's going to play

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in that one?
Yeah, I saw it.

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Mind boggling there's.
Another one, and I'm not sure

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how you would Google it, but I
remember right before the Super

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Bowl last year, there was this
conspiracy that said they start

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showing the colors of the teams
that are going to be in the

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Super Bowl long before the
playoffs are over.

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Yeah, like they're starting to
put that subliminal message in

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your head through the
commercials.

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Right?
The Eagles.

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Was it the Eagles and the Chiefs
last year?

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Yes.
Those colors were all over

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before the playoffs had even
finished up.

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Wow.
I was following this guy's

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channel and that was his whole
conspiracy was you already know

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who's going to be in the Super
Bowl because they got the colors

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in the commercial.
Yeah, yeah.

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I just, I it's and see, here's
the thing, man, if this is, if

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this is legit, like let's you
know, let's just call it legit.

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Let's say this is really
happening on the NFL.

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You're going to lose.
Like I don't, I don't.

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I was I loved in the I loved
watching football.

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Like legit, that was I mean you
on a Sunday.

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I'm at home all day watching
football.

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I have all.
Through the 90s man parties.

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Just.
Football parties and shit right

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loves.
Right.

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And, and where this is going
now, I just, I just it, it's

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mind boggling because it's going
to, it's taking away the joy of

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watching the game, right?
Because you don't know if you go

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back to, if you go back to the
Super Bowl where the, the, the

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Patriots were losing to the
Falcons, What was it?

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What was it like 28 to 3?
Well, like the biggest comeback

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in NFL history.
Yeah, but and you, I don't

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think, I don't think the
scripting began back then.

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I mean, that's the game that
actually, I, I found the respect

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for Tom Brady that he deserves
as a player because he, he

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completely changed his and
Belichick, they completely

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changed their approach to the
game.

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He dinked and dunked all the way
down the field.

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It was 2 yards.
It was 3 yards, it was 4 yards.

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There was nothing over the
middle because of the defense.

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The Falcons were playing.
Everything was on the outside

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swing passes, screens, passes,
bubble sweeps, all that kind of

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shit.
So there was nothing that was a

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threat.
And, and most of the NFL teams

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will give you, will give you 5
yards in front of us.

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You know, because they're,
they're betting on the fact that

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that out of those 3 plays, you
need to get a first down, you

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get two or three two.
Or one of them, right?

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So you're going to have a stop
at some at some point time.

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I think that was was the last
true legitimate comeback without

452
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,200
anything funny going on.
Well, I don't know when gambling

453
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760
started for you guys in Arizona,
but it was 2016 here.

454
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,480
So if you want a timeline, let's
just say that legalized gambling

455
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,520
became prominent right around
2010 for the United States

456
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,400
because Illinois probably didn't
adopt it first.

457
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,960
We're usually way behind.
So let's say somewhere around

458
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,800
2010, 2015, gambling started to
creep in.

459
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,840
So what year is that game you're
talking about?

460
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,640
That would have been what?
The Falcons and Falcons

461
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,160
Patriots.
Patriots, let's see what year

462
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,480
that was.
I'm kind of curious what the

463
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,360
timeline is. 2017.
So, well, maybe we were early

464
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:09,160
adopters because I don't feel
like back then I felt like I was

465
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,800
getting screwed as much or there
was as much evidence to point

466
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,080
to, to say, yeah, there could be
some funny business.

467
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,560
We just gave everybody 15
minutes of examples of things

468
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,240
that are potentially.
We're not saying that that's

469
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,000
what's going on, but it sure
looks funny to two guys who have

470
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,160
been watching football since we
were.

471
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,760
Probably 7 years old.
Yeah, we remember right around

472
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,800
10 years old.
So we'll say 1983 for you to be

473
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,120
like 1980.
Yep.

474
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,840
For steel, it goes back to the
60s to when he can remember.

475
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,120
You know, like 1960.
Yeah, like Monday Night

476
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,640
Football's been around since
started when you and I were were

477
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,840
basically 3-4 years, three and
six years old.

478
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Early 1970s, right?
Yeah, it was late 1970s.

479
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,640
Yeah, so Sunday Night Football's
been around, just hit the 20th

480
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,640
year.
So these are things that that

481
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,480
I've grown up with, that you've
grown up with, that a lot of

482
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,760
people have grown up watching.
And you cannot deny there's a

483
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,560
major difference now in how the
game's officiated and how, well,

484
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,480
what super.
Bowl are we on 53?

485
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,640
I am fucking well, whatever.
I think the Super Bowl is the

486
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840
same age as you as my going to
be my .0.

487
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080
OK, that's how many Super Bowls
there are.

488
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,880
It's not that old.
Yeah, yeah.

489
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,400
A lot of people think the Super
Bowl's been around forever

490
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,920
because they don't pay attention
to the fact that it, you know,

491
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:32,560
there's a number behind it.
Right, Yeah, I just, I just,

492
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,800
it's mind boggling to me that
they're they're they're they're

493
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280
changing the game.
And by changing the game,

494
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,960
you're, you're, you're turning
into Al Pacino's movie.

495
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,040
Any given Sunday you're going to
end up seeing a running back run

496
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600
into the end zone, pull out a
gun from his from his pants and

497
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560
blow his head off because he's
so knee deep into the mobster

498
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,400
and the mafia for gambling that
he can't see the end of the

499
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,840
tunnel.
Agreed and here's here's a good

500
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:05,600
equivalent is I used to love the
NBA too Yeah, I don't like what

501
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,120
the NBA became.
It's a different game than the

502
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,040
one that I liked right.
I like the actual.

503
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,680
Well agreed 100%.
Basketball where defense ruled

504
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,840
the day and you know, driving to
the basket was the initial goal

505
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,920
and kicking it back out for a
three pointer was a secondary

506
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,680
thing, right?
Right now, if you watch an NBA

507
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,600
game, all they do for 40 minutes
is Chuck up threes and rebound

508
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480
and run to the other end and
Chuck up a three.

509
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,520
I just don't.
If you like that game, that's

510
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,560
great.
You know that it's successful.

511
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,240
They're making a lot of money.
Somebody likes it.

512
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,440
I'm just not that guy.
I think that's what the NFL is

513
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,360
turning into.
It's They're gonna ruin the game

514
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,360
for those of us who actually
like to watch what we consider

515
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,320
legitimate football.
Right.

516
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,160
And the fact that you can't hit
anybody now without a flag is

517
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520
ridiculous.
The fact that, you know, there's

518
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,120
certain quarterbacks that can be
levelled and nothing's thrown.

519
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Certain quarterbacks can be, you
know, flicked and five flags get

520
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
dropped.
Well, in there, that's a great

521
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,280
example.
There's another way that the

522
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,960
officials can wholeheartedly
influence the outcome of the

523
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,480
game simply by the fact that you
see, how many times are you

524
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,760
watching a game?
And there's all these like Troy

525
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240
said on his episode where that
guy made fun of him because, you

526
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320
know, he couldn't find his keys.
It's like when you can't find

527
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,640
your keys, like you can't find
your flag.

528
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,800
They were holding us the whole
game.

529
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,840
You know, you're watching these
things happen and you see no

530
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,360
flags.
And then to your point, a guy

531
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,880
you know hits him with his
hangnail and it's like, oh, pass

532
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,960
interference or roughing the
passer.

533
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Right.
Or when you see him a completely

534
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,680
turn around on a guy's head with
his head staying still.

535
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880
You don't call a flag for for
for face mask, face mask.

536
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,800
There's there's seven officials
on the field.

537
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960
It's not like there's just
three, right?

538
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Like when we started watching
football, there was 3 there's

539
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,040
the referee, there's a line
judge back judge.

540
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120
That was it.
Yep, you didn't have and then

541
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,320
you have by the way, then you
have I think 10 officials in the

542
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,800
stands random spots because they
have this new thing they're

543
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,200
doing.
Plus then you have all the all

544
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
the cameras on every game is
just insane.

545
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,120
Then you have all the new cell
phone right Then you right.

546
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,280
So they're really because
because of is instant replay and

547
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,360
all that kind of shit and
because the referees now huddle

548
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160
before they call a play because,
right, a play will be done and

549
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,800
somebody will be complaining and
then all of a sudden he yells at

550
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,160
a referee.
So then the referees huddle.

551
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Oh yeah, our bad.
We missed that.

552
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440
But here's a flag.
You can't do that.

553
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400
You just and something needs to
change.

554
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Something needs to change in the
NFL level when it comes to

555
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
officiating.
It's like across the board, like

556
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400
it's just like the the taunting
shit.

557
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Are you serious?
That's a taunt.

558
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,440
We're grown.
Fucking twive that.

559
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,320
That's a taunt.
We are grown.

560
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,480
Fucking men playing the game
where we're smashing into each

561
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,360
other at like 20 miles an hour
impact.

562
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Yep, Yep, it's and if I.
Look at you funny.

563
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,760
Then I get a penalty.
Right, right.

564
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880
It's bullshit.
I get the penalties for this

565
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,040
when they when they go because,
you know, I I I think that's

566
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,600
cheesy, but I get it.
Yeah, You're not.

567
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,560
You're not, unless you're Ray
Lewis or Michael Irvin, you're

568
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720
not out there shooting for real,
you know, or Aaron Hernandez.

569
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,640
I mean, those guys really shot,
but you know.

570
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,720
And here's the other thing.
You're the cornerback.

571
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,440
I'm the receiver for 3/4.
I've been going.

572
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,160
You can't catch me,
motherfucker.

573
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,920
You ain't shit.
Oh, I burned you again.

574
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Burned you again.
Burned you again.

575
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Man, You're slow.
You're slow.

576
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,960
And then all of a sudden you lay
me out.

577
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200
You have every right to stand
over me and go.

578
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Got you that time, didn't I?
Yep.

579
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,600
Right boom flag.
Yeah.

580
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,360
But where's the flag when you're
smack talking me the whole for

581
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640
the 1st 3/4?
And that's one thing I'm guilty

582
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,480
of not thinking about until it
was either Peyton or Eli said it

583
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,960
one of those Monday nights, you
know, like, oh come on, man, you

584
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160
don't know what's been going on
for 3/4.

585
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400
That guy's probably been going
just all the things I.

586
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,400
Remember that, I remember that.
You ain't shit, you know.

587
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,080
And that's the hand fighting
shit too.

588
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,240
They let you that.
I was watching one game this

589
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
weekend and the hand fighting
was ridiculous all the way up to

590
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,680
the where where the the receiver
kind of hand fought 20 yards

591
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,680
down the field with the defender
and then kind of pushes away and

592
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,720
catches the ball.
If that shit happens in the last

593
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
two minutes of the game, that's
a penalty across the board.

594
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Agreed.
And that's ridiculous too.

595
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Yeah, if you're going to want 38
minutes, it's OK, but that last

596
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
two minutes can't happen.
Yep, it's fucking ridiculous.

597
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,840
So that's football.
Let's get out of football.

598
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Let's go to documentaries.
Yeah, what do you watch?

599
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680
I watched Have You Seen Me
Lately, which is the documentary

600
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120
of the Counting Crows.
Oh, it just dropped last night

601
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,240
on on on HBO Max.
I'll watch that tonight.

602
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,920
So here's what's really cool.
Everybody knows Mr. Jones.

603
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,560
OK, So August and everything
after that, the story, I want

604
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320
you to watch the documentary.
It's a great album.

605
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,360
So the story behind it, without
giving things away, is they kind

606
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,480
of they kind of pull the cannon
box, right?

607
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,960
They rehearse forever, blah,
blah, blah.

608
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Cannon Box plays your show.
You can give it away, it's a

609
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080
documentary and they live their.
Life, this is true.

610
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,080
This is true.
So, so Adam puts this band

611
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,600
together to his band.
Everything goes through Adam.

612
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,880
He, he basically, it's a
whirlwind.

613
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,680
They, they, they do an EP that
sounds like an actual album.

614
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,240
And one of the bandmates has a
studio, A-16 track studio.

615
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,320
They run into somebody's lawyer
and the lawyer's like, oh, I'm

616
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840
going to, I'm going to, you
know, get me something.

617
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800
So he takes the tape.
Adam sends sends this lawyer the

618
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:44,440
tape guys like off the hook like
Oh my God, you got to be kidding

619
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,120
me.
It's 14 songs.

620
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,120
You're only supposed to have
three songs that you send to a

621
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,360
label.
There's 14 songs, which ended up

622
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,080
being every single song on
August and everything after guy

623
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,920
gets it to a label.
Geffen, I think it was.

624
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,400
And, and they're thinking
there's no way in hell Geffen's

625
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640
going to going to pursue these
guys.

626
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,400
About 30 seconds into into when
the guy had the tape, he calls

627
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,480
them up.
He's like, yes.

628
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040
So one of the unique things I
didn't know about the music

629
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,320
industry back then is so the
Geffen people, they made copies

630
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,040
of the tape and they kicked it
all around the office.

631
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,000
So that was kind of like, you go
to work and you, you play music,

632
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,240
right?
So you're Geffen, I guess you

633
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,360
come in the front door, you
know, lobby, whatever.

634
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,600
And, and here's here's a here's
a barrage of cassette tapes from

635
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,160
bands that have been sent in.
So you grab a tape and you put

636
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680
it.
In SO, they use the staff as a.

637
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Kind of part of that's the one I
got a rometer.

638
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,360
That's what I got out of it.
Yeah, that's cool.

639
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,960
But then it ended up they end up
sending tapes to all different

640
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,480
kind of all the other labels as
well.

641
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560
So all the other labels are
doing the same thing.

642
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,880
And then and what ends up
happening, according to the the

643
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,600
documentary is there August and
everything after becomes a

644
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,240
soundtrack for the labels.
So a bidding war begins.

645
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,199
So they ended up signing with
Geffen for a higher.

646
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,639
Bidding war to the people that
are listening that don't

647
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,679
understand the music business.
A bidding warriors, You have 5

648
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,719
different labels and whoever's
going to give you the best terms

649
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,239
and conditions possible, you're
going to go.

650
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,840
With that is the best scenario a
band?

651
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,719
That's a dream scenario for a
band as people are fighting

652
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,760
after you.
Right.

653
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,280
So the interesting thing that
Adam says, we went with Geffen

654
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000
because they gave us a higher
percentage of royalties and we

655
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000
retain the rights to our music.
We left a lot of, we left a lot

656
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719
of money on the table.
Upfront money on the table,

657
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,920
right?
A lot of.

658
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,440
Money on the back end.
Yeah, and I don't know how much,

659
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
I don't know how how they're
split because everything he

660
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,880
writes everything, the words and
music and then.

661
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,000
He probably gets upwards of 70%
of the money.

662
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,639
Yeah, so when you watch the
documentary, the bandmates like

663
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,920
Charlie Guitars, she's like,
man, I'm a Little League coach

664
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
and I play in a famous band.
That literally is what he said.

665
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,120
Because he was really a hired
gun at that.

666
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Right.
And they all they all just kind

667
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,880
of Adam does his thing, you
know, and rightfully so.

668
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,040
August everything after came out
the gates 7 million copies

669
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,120
recovering the satellites came
out the gates 2 million copies.

670
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,240
So it was considered a failure.
The interesting.

671
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,920
Thing about isn't that crazy.
Back then it was a failure,

672
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400
right?
So Saturday Night Live comes

673
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,920
calling and they give, they tell
them they can play around here.

674
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,880
This is when I was introduced to
Counting Crows.

675
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
They can play around here 1st
and Mr. Jones second.

676
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Well, when they get to the show,
they're like, Nah, fuck you,

677
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,160
you're not doing that.
You're going to cut them in and

678
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120
off each song and you're going
to play Mr. Jones 1st and that's

679
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,160
it.
And Adam's like no.

680
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,880
And they're like, well no, yeah,
you have to because this is TV

681
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,240
and TV changes.
And Adam's like, no, we'll just

682
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,240
leave.
We'll just walk away.

683
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,520
We'll be the band that leaves
Saturday live and just leave you

684
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,480
completely hanging.
So to check the book them their

685
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,120
first song they do is Round here
and it's.

686
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,040
And if you haven't seen that
version of Round Here, Google it

687
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,560
on YouTube.
Counting Crows.

688
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,840
They've never been.
They've never played SNL again

689
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,520
because they were defiant, kind
of like the doors were when it

690
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,280
was on the head.
So.

691
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,120
I'm sure Lorne Michaels
blackballed them.

692
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360
It wasn't Lorne Michaels,
there's some other chick that

693
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,120
books them.
Like she saw them somewhere and

694
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,840
she booked them.
I'm sure they have a musical

695
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,840
director.
Sure, I forget her name.

696
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,840
She's some documentary.
That version around here is just

697
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,120
fucking amazing.
That's the first time I ever saw

698
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,320
him.
Yeah, because I used to watch

699
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,760
that Saturday Night Live every
Saturday back then.

700
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,240
Yeah, when it was good, and then
and then ironically enough, when

701
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,880
Nemesis was going on, I'm going
to say probably 98% of the time,

702
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:42,560
August and everything after
Dizzy Up the Girl and I, fuck, I

703
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680
can't remember the third album,
but it was 3 albums I would

704
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,160
always listen, I always listen
to.

705
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,800
And those were the Muse.
Those are the vehicles to get my

706
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
my creative juices slowing and
and how I read.

707
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Songwriters, man.
Right.

708
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,200
And it was all in the background
when I would write lyrics.

709
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,760
Real quick fact, a lot of people
don't know that the the bass

710
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,960
player wrote most of those songs
in the Goo Goo Dolls.

711
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Johnny Resnick was lyrics but.

712
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Yeah, actually, a bass player
wrote a lot of those lyrics,

713
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,520
too.
Really.

714
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Yeah, He was the primary
songwriter in the Goo Goo Dolls.

715
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,040
OK, I did not know that.
I didn't.

716
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Either.
Well, of course, everybody

717
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,800
always thinks that the front man
writes everything.

718
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Unless you're Russian, it's Neil
Pert, but.

719
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440
People don't know that.
They think it's the guy standing

720
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,320
out front, right?
Yeah, yeah.

721
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,600
True that.
It's just the person you relate

722
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480
to in the band you think always
is the primary songwriter,

723
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,280
unless you're in the business
and you know.

724
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Right, so the interesting thing
about Mr. Jones is basically it

725
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
came out during grunge.
OK, so this was the cool thing.

726
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Grunge took over the world and
Counting Crows come out with Mr.

727
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Jones.
Mr. Jones is basically, if

728
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,640
you've never listened to the
lyrics to summarize it, it's a

729
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,280
guy who who wants to be a rock
star and the the whole song is

730
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,280
about becoming a rock star in an
era where the anti music

731
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,680
movement was grunge.
We don't want to be rock stars,

732
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,280
we don't want to be successful,
we don't want to make it to the

733
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,840
top.
Like said, no musician ever.

734
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,640
I don't care who you are, no
musician steps on a stage with

735
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,920
the intent of being poor for the
rest of their life.

736
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,920
Except maybe for real Kurt
Cobain.

737
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,280
I don't, but I don't.
I don't I, I don't.

738
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040
I'm going to agree with you a
little bit, but not not

739
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,640
wholeheartedly, because.
You don't.

740
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,720
I didn't know him, obviously.
I'm just.

741
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,760
Going from.
Hundreds of hours of listening

742
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,960
to people that knew him that
said of all people they ever

743
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,080
met, fame is actually probably
what killed him.

744
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,040
I, I probably, but I just to me,
you don't, you don't step on

745
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
that stage.
I'm not disagreeing with.

746
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,840
You.
Yeah, unless you plan.

747
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Unless because you're your goal.
I had my reasons for getting up

748
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,840
there too, right?
I didn't want to work a real job

749
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,720
and I wanted to get paid to see
the world.

750
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,560
Those were my 2 motivations to
get out there financially is I

751
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,720
didn't want to have to get a
real job, right?

752
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,960
Quote UN quote because playing
music is probably harder than

753
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,760
any real job you'll ever have
anyway.

754
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,800
They talk about that in the
documentary too.

755
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,360
And I wanted to get paid to see
the world, oddly enough, because

756
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,120
I I love geography when I was in
school, you know, I'm like,

757
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,520
there's a whole world out there
that I'm never going to see.

758
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,760
Yeah.
And that's just that bothered me

759
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680
somehow.
So I'm like, you know, if we

760
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,320
sell enough records, we're going
to see that world, right.

761
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,760
Yeah.
So I agree with you.

762
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,440
I just I've heard enough hours
that I honestly think that he

763
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,800
might be one of the few
exceptions that was an anti hero

764
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
for real.
OK, I'll give you that.

765
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,720
I didn't know that about it.
Now ironically enough, him and

766
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,920
Dirts were friends.
Him and Adam were really good

767
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,400
friends.
Which kind of like, wow, OK, so

768
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,120
when Adam got the call that he
died, that that fucked him up?

769
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,400
Oh, real quick story that you'll
appreciate that.

770
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,560
I just heard about Nirvana.
OK, they had an opening female,

771
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
I think it doesn't matter, but I
believe they were an all female

772
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200
band and I'm pretty sure they
were playing in Canada.

773
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,040
OK.
And.

774
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Yeah, don't even say that.
But anyway, this is this part of

775
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,160
the story is true.
And that there was a gig where

776
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,000
the audience dissed the opening
band and it pissed Kurt Cobain

777
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,520
off so bad that he went up
there, wouldn't play any of the

778
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,160
hits except for Smells Like Teen
Spirit, and there's a video of

779
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,760
him playing it so badly.
So he just basically ruined the

780
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,840
show for the audience because
they were assholes to his

781
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,840
opening act.
OK, so the correlation that cult

782
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,360
that that you enter Adam Dirt
same way because everybody that

783
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,400
opened for the Counting Crows
those first three years on the

784
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,960
road were people they knew they
were playing some show.

785
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,360
This is from somebody who knew
him.

786
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,360
She was the the manager of the
Viper Room, which ironically

787
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600
enough, for about a year and a
half, Adam Dirtz was the

788
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,760
bartender at the.
That's right, I have heard that

789
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960
story.
Like he legit it's just kind of

790
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,200
watch documentary, it's
fascinating.

791
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,840
I've heard a lot of these
stories because I'm a big

792
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Counting Crows fan.
Yeah, so he, he, he was so

793
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200
pissed off at the crowd, how
they treated his opening act,

794
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,400
which is one of his friends,
that he played four songs and

795
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680
left.
That was it.

796
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,040
I appreciate that, man.
Yeah, yeah.

797
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,600
I'll tell you the most.
Boss move and whether what

798
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,880
whatever you think about him
now, Metallica.

799
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Their fans were so rabid that
they eventually just had to not

800
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,480
have an.
Open stop, right?

801
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Yeah.
Because they felt sorry for her.

802
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,760
It's like, well, no, but they
had to because you can't.

803
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,520
You can't.
How do you open for Metallica?

804
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880
You can't.
Ozzy had to kick him off the

805
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,560
tour because they were out on
their master of puppet.

806
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,360
I don't think he kicked him off.
He just never invited him back.

807
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,200
But even Ozzy said, you know,
how the fuck do you follow that?

808
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Yeah, so you can't.
No.

809
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,240
So squirrel moment, I get a text
right before the show.

810
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,080
I thought it was the artist that
was supposed to be on her and

811
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,400
they didn't show up.
So this is the text I get.

812
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,600
OK, see it.
Yes, I can't.

813
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,520
See, so it says hi.
Is everything all right?

814
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,240
And I, I assume because maybe
they didn't get the link or

815
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:09,080
something, right.
I'm like, who's this?

816
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Hi, I'm Candace.
We might have met before.

817
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,760
Do you Remember Me?
I reply.

818
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,160
We didn't buy.
What does Candace do?

819
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,040
She sends me a picture and ask,
isn't this Andy's number?

820
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,800
No.
Now, if I were you because.

821
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,240
Yeah, tell me what to say.
I'm a little frisky, and yeah, I

822
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,440
don't have anybody else here to
keep me entertained.

823
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,040
I'd be like, oh, yeah, this is
Andy, what can I do for you?

824
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Yeah, but you don't need that
kind of stress in your life.

825
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,360
No, I'm going to send them your
number.

826
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,200
What's your number?
No.

827
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Don't do that anyone 7 O 38
Whoops 867-5309 See what she

828
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,240
says to that stupid people man.
OK so the reason why I brought

829
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:04,600
up the whole Counting Crows
thing, Mr. Jones as I said is

830
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,840
about wanting to become a rock
star in a in an era where you

831
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,080
were supposed to be anti rock
star.

832
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,720
So three years, I mean, really,
they went from from nothing to

833
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,920
the fact that some of the band
members told their jobs, hey,

834
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,920
I'm going to be back in four
months.

835
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,680
I'm going to record this.
I'll maybe do a little bit of

836
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,080
tour.
I'm coming back in four months.

837
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,520
So save my office, save my job,
you know, and then three years

838
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,240
later, right.
Yeah, nobody.

839
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:31,920
Expects that to happen.
Nobody, nobody, no, nobody at

840
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,600
all.
Like they just this is not what

841
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,720
they thought would happen.
They went overseas in fact, and

842
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:38,720
came back from overseas and Adam
went out.

843
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,320
I forget where he was at to go
for a walk on and it literally

844
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:46,280
he got mobbed it.
I mean, you would think you

845
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,480
would think John Lennon walked
in this Times Square and

846
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160
everybody saw John Lennon and
wants to just.

847
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Oh, during that time period, the
Counting Crows were the biggest

848
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,960
band on the planet.
Right.

849
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,480
He got chased down.
He went to a movie theater.

850
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Some guy came in the movie
theater.

851
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,400
It was empty.
Some guy came movie theater and

852
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,680
sat next to him.
He's like kind of sit here.

853
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
And I was like, you know, man,
I'm just trying, just trying to

854
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,920
be me, man.
I'm just trying to get sit back

855
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
and watch the movie.
So the guy's like, OK, OK, He

856
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,640
leaves.
About 20 minutes later, the

857
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,760
usher comes in.
He's like, hey, I just want to

858
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,720
let you know, guys been on the
phone for about 30 minutes

859
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,560
calling everybody he knows.
And there's about 2-3 hundred

860
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,640
people out front.
And Adam's like, fun, kidding

861
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,600
me.
He's like, look, there's a way

862
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,280
to get out right here to go out
the back.

863
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,400
And so Adam gets up, sneaks out
the back, starts walking.

864
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:33,240
And he says a couple minutes in
the walk, he hears the ushers

865
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,640
screaming run.
He turns out to look and shit

866
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,720
you not, there's a crowd of
people like like, like The

867
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:41,920
Beatles just invaded the United
States chasing Adam Durant to

868
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,560
his hotel.
I'm like, what the fucking world

869
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,840
do we live in?
Even back then even.

870
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,800
Funny you present that scenario
because a couple times in the

871
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,560
last three weeks the Live at the
Ritz Guns and Roses performance

872
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,920
has come up in conversations
that I've had with different

873
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680
people.
So I went back and watched it,

874
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,840
and my first thought was exactly
what you're just describing.

875
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,880
I'm looking at those guys on
that stage and they're playing

876
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,560
the Ritz, For the people that
don't know, is a nightclub in

877
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,880
New York City.
And MTV filmed Guns and Roses

878
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,560
there and I believe 1987 or
1988, right around the time

879
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,440
Appetite was coming out, right?
And the people are right next to

880
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,160
the stage and Axel's giving
them, you know, slapping them

881
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,080
high 5.
And to your point, in about 6 or

882
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,120
8 months, they're not going to
be able to go anywhere without

883
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,680
bodyguards.
And that was my first thought.

884
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
You're not going to be able to
stand on a stage like that, that

885
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,960
close to people in about 8
months.

886
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,200
And you don't know that yet.
No, you don't.

887
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,960
That's one of the best
performances by them in the

888
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,280
history of Guns and Roses.
If you haven't seen it, go to

889
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,400
the Google machine and type in
Guns and Roses Live at the Ritz.

890
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,520
It's a life changing
performance.

891
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,400
It's just it.
And, and yeah, so, so when

892
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,240
recovering satellites come out,
he he, he writes a song called

893
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Have You Seen Me Lately?
And the, and the the irony of

894
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,040
the song, because people don't,
most people don't listen to

895
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,400
lyrics like I do.
Like I'm lyrically driven, of

896
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,160
course, because there's a story.
You're telling a story.

897
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,920
And the cool thing about Have
You Seen Me lately is legit get

898
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000
away from me.
Just get away from me.

899
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,800
This ain't going to be easy.
But I don't need you, believe

900
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,480
me.
This is his reaction to the

901
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,960
three years of absolute utter
chaos where he couldn't walk to

902
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,960
a corner store without being
bothered.

903
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080
Now, granted, he's a white dude
with dreadlocks.

904
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960
That's part of the problem
because he sticks out like sore

905
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,880
thumb.
Yeah, you got a piece of me, but

906
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,360
it's just a little piece of me.
And I don't need anyone.

907
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,240
And these days, I feel like I'm
fading away, like sometimes when

908
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,880
I hear myself on the radio.
Have you seen me lately?

909
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Have you seen me lately?
Because I was out on the radio

910
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560
starting to change somewhere in
America is starting to rain.

911
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Could you tell me one thing you
remember about me and have you

912
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,600
seen me lately?
So the, the, the really cool

913
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:07,080
thing about a book ends it.
So you have you have Mr. Jones

914
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,520
was just all about becoming
these superstars.

915
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,360
Everybody wants to be a
superstar, right?

916
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,600
And then you have, have you seen
me lately, which is the polar

917
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,360
opposite.
Like look, look what's look

918
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,360
what's happened to me by
becoming a superstar.

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,360
And it's a date.
They've, I think they have 12

920
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,000
albums.
So August sold 7 million

921
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,560
recovering satellites till 2
million.

922
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
The rest of the catalog with
those two albums combined have

923
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,120
only done 25,000,000.
So they really hit the gate with

924
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,840
August and everything after and
just kind of went down and just,

925
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,080
you know, they called a
sophomore slump even though 2

926
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
minute records, 2 minute
records, but they they never hit

927
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,240
that same success with August
and everything after, which,

928
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,800
let's face it, most artists
don't.

929
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Well, it's funny that.
So here's another parallel

930
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,480
subject that I was talking about
with the guy I was training at

931
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,560
work on Wednesday, the 2nd
Candle Box album, when Mike from

932
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,840
Monkey House said, you know,
when he was talking to Kevin

933
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,000
Martin and Kevin Martin was
like, I hate that album, right?

934
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,760
That bothered me ever since
because I want to get to the

935
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,200
root of what could it be.
And I think that's it.

936
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,280
I think that they had so much
time to make that debut album

937
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,560
perfect.
And it is fucking perfect that I

938
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,720
almost venture to guess that
they were rushed to do that

939
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:27,280
second album and in my opinion
it's a banger, but the

940
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,800
production quality is not nearly
as good as the first album so

941
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,920
it's almost like it was rushed.
Well, The funny thing about

942
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,760
about the production.
So when they did their EP.

943
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,400
Do you agree with that statement
though?

944
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,720
That the production quality.
Is.

945
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Absolutely.
The audio, when you're listening

946
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,680
to it, it's just not as good.
It's not it's different and it's

947
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,840
it's different for lots of
different reasons, right?

948
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,640
You as like, like Nemesis,
right.

949
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,720
We had enough original material.
We probably had 30 songs.

950
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,040
So we could have we could have
filled three albums easy.

951
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,800
Then they all would have been if
if the 30.

952
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,240
Good songs.
Right.

953
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,880
So if the right, so if the debut
would have been successful, then

954
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,000
the sophomore and the follow up
to that would have been just as

955
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,040
successful on some level because
the contents was the same, the

956
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,520
music was the same, the style
was the same lyrically.

957
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,640
They were these were songs I
wrote, you know, my entire life.

958
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160
So it wasn't like I was I was
going to be lacking for.

959
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,440
Material we were, and rowing man
we went from freeman to

960
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,200
intervention divine.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

961
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:28,280
And that's why that's what I'm
saying.

962
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,280
But it was all thirty of our
songs could have totally been

963
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,920
spread out over over three
albums and they all could have

964
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,320
stood that test of time, right?
They it wasn't we wouldn't have

965
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,680
had a sophomore slump.
That's what I'm getting at.

966
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,920
I mean, I don't know that, but
I'm just.

967
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,320
But I think in their case their
songs were equally as good if

968
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,200
not better, but they didn't get
showcased sonically the way they

969
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,040
should have.
Well, he changed.

970
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,760
He in the documentary talks
about it.

971
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,680
He completely changed recovering
the satellites.

972
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,400
He wanted to be more in your
face, hard driving rock'n'roll.

973
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,240
He didn't want to be the folk
pop rock that August was.

974
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,840
OK.
So when they did the EP for

975
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,280
August and everything after, it
was in Charlie's home studio.

976
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,200
The EP sounded like a
full-fledged recorded album

977
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,520
according to the label and stuff
like, so they had to get him in

978
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,040
the studio.
Now when we get you in the

979
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,120
studio, this is where Adam comes
into play with his weirdness.

980
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,760
All of a sudden he decided
everybody had to change what

981
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,720
they did.
So Charlie, you're not.

982
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,680
Or whoever maybe was, I forget
Dan, Dan's his keyboards.

983
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,280
Dan, you're not playing
synthesizers anymore.

984
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,440
You're just playing this and
that.

985
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,600
You're just playing piano,
organ.

986
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,720
We're going to dumb it down.
You're not going to use a

987
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:38,120
fretless bait anymore, fretless
fretless bass anymore.

988
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,640
You're going to buy this one and
use it.

989
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,120
You're not going to play that
guitar.

990
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,080
You're going to play this
guitar.

991
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,760
So Adam completely took control
over everything and he didn't

992
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,400
know how to explain it.
So in August and everything

993
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,640
after it was grueling in the
studio because all of a sudden

994
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
he went from you made this
really cool EP with friends in

995
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,120
a, in, in somebody's home
studio.

996
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,360
Now you're at this label and you
you have to make debut album

997
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920
that sounds like an EP1 of the
exact words of the of the

998
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,120
producer.
And all of a sudden your

999
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,800
bandmates walk in.
Or like when the fall of a

1000
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,520
sudden Chris is like, here's how
I want my song to sound when

1001
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,720
everything before that was it's
our.

1002
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,840
Band perfect.
Yeah, exactly.

1003
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,480
So it would be.
Horrible.

1004
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,720
Right.
So then you have three years of

1005
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:23,520
massive success and then he
comes.

1006
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,840
So he spends a year, a year and
a half working in the Viper Room

1007
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,760
and living a different life.
Like he went to Kate Moss's 25th

1008
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,760
birthday party and he's like,
I'm in a room with every single

1009
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,320
top supermodel at the time.
Oh, by the way, there's Tom

1010
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Petty.
Oh, by the way, there's Johnny

1011
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,760
Depp.
And all these people are just

1012
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,640
hanging out and just being their
peers.

1013
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,720
There's their successful peers,
but there's no, hey, you're that

1014
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,480
guy from Counting Crows, right
there was just you're getting an

1015
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,200
amstelight from a bartender.
So he lives this whole new life.

1016
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,440
And so he was super happy.
Beginning of the documentary, he

1017
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,080
talks about the fact how he
looked in the mirror and he

1018
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,640
didn't he didn't like who he
saw.

1019
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,640
He didn't understand who he saw.
He it wasn't himself looking

1020
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,640
back at him like really weird,
fucked up shit.

1021
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,720
So during the August and
everything after adventure at

1022
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,960
1:00 morning, he wakes up before
they hit it big and you'll

1023
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,320
relate to this.
He felt like he was on acid,

1024
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,640
like he just woke up and
actually, no, he drank a glass

1025
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,040
of water.
He drank an entire glass of

1026
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,040
water and put the glass down,
and then all of a sudden he felt

1027
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,080
like it was on acid.
Adam Durst doesn't do drugs.

1028
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,000
He barely drinks.
His mental health issues, but he

1029
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000
felt like he was on acid.
That lasted for a year and a

1030
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,280
half before he realized.
I have to figure out how to get

1031
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120
my mind right because there's
something wrong with me.

1032
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,160
I don't remember what the
diagnosis is, but it's insane.

1033
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,240
So he struggled with that during
those first three years.

1034
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,680
And then the disassociated
personality.

1035
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,200
Part of it is why he ended up
being the barter in the Viper

1036
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Room because Johnny Depp and the
other owner of the Viper Room

1037
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,120
invited them.
Hey, come over, we got your room

1038
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,120
at the Bellagio behind or
whatever the bell or I don't

1039
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,400
fuck whatever the hotel was
behind the Viper Room.

1040
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,880
They're like, get out of the
house that you're in, sneak out,

1041
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,920
come here.
We got your room.

1042
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,200
You can just come hang out with
us And and that's what he did.

1043
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,680
I honestly feel that's what
happened to Chris Cornell, too.

1044
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,720
That's a very parallel story.
Yeah.

1045
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,880
You take a person with mental
health issues, and then you drop

1046
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,000
them into fame where they're
under a microscope and a

1047
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,800
spotlight every day of their
life.

1048
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Yeah.
And neither one of those guys,

1049
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,440
for the longest time, it sounds
like, even knew they had a

1050
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,040
mental health problem.
Right?

1051
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,360
Right.
They were just like, man, I'm

1052
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,560
struggling through life, and I
don't know why.

1053
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Luckily for Adam he figured it
out and Chris did later on too,

1054
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,280
but I think he was abusing the
fuck out of those

1055
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,360
antidepressants from what his
girlfriend was saying at the

1056
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,560
time.
Her wife.

1057
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,280
I don't know if he was married.
I know we I know we had a

1058
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,120
significant other and he had
kids.

1059
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,920
But I think fame compounded upon
that mental health problem is

1060
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,040
just you're talking like a TNT
explosion.

1061
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

1062
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,440
And that's what you just
described, from what he

1063
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,600
described in the documentary is
yeah, like, yeah, I'm living a

1064
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,600
parody of myself everyday.
I have to be this person that

1065
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,560
I'd never wanted to be in the
first place.

1066
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,120
Right.
And that's, that's where the

1067
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,320
dreadlocks came in, because then
he started going dreadlocks and

1068
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,920
he says he finally felt like
himself.

1069
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,960
He was like for 27 years.
I ran with that.

1070
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,120
And then now he's got this chick
in his life and she's the one

1071
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,480
she like said she was on the
camera.

1072
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,040
She's like, you know, I, I, I
love your smile, I love your

1073
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,280
eyes, but I have to move.
I got to move the dreadlocks

1074
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,800
away to see the face.
She's like, you know, and people

1075
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,880
like Nikki hates the fact that
he doesn't have dreads anymore.

1076
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,920
Like just hates it like because
that's.

1077
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,040
You just said it, 27 years.
Yeah, that's what we saw from

1078
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560
Adam.
Yeah, that's the look.

1079
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Hold on one second.
Absolutely.

1080
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,080
We're holding on one second,
folks.

1081
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,080
So this would be a good time to
tell you if you're not

1082
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,640
subscribed to the YouTube
channel, go out and subscribe to

1083
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,120
the YouTube channel because it's
awesome.

1084
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,200
So I've seen Kind of Crows
because that's Nikki's favorite

1085
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,360
band probably 10 times so.
I've only seen them once but

1086
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,640
they were great.
That's us in the front row and

1087
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,760
shit you not Adam, that's
Nikki's back of her head.

1088
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200
That entire song, Adam was
basically singing and pointing

1089
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,880
to her.
So at one point in time, I, I, I

1090
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,000
finally just pulled my camera
out and made a video.

1091
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,480
And then I, I screenshot this
from the video.

1092
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,880
That's a great picture because
it was just, I mean, it was, it

1093
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,600
was fucking cool, man.
He's just And if you've never

1094
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,280
seen the Counting Crows, what's
cool about them?

1095
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,880
Number one, don't expect it to
sound like the album, which is

1096
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,000
frustrating, but he tells
stories.

1097
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,760
He explains the stories behind.
The songs that part of the show.

1098
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,040
So, and he still does that.
So if you, if you truly embrace

1099
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,200
the storytelling aspect of of
music, depending on his mood,

1100
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,200
depending on where he's at in
his cycle, because it varies.

1101
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,440
We've seen we've seen shows
where he's just fucking out

1102
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,600
there perfect.
Like a spot on amazing.

1103
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,800
Wow.
And we've seen shows like, yeah,

1104
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,040
OK, he was having a bad day.
The one thing that disappoints

1105
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,680
me about them a little bit is I
put them in the same category as

1106
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,840
Mellencamp.
If you saw Mellencamp back when

1107
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,160
you and I did.
Yep.

1108
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,720
He was still kicking ass and
full of piss and vinegar.

1109
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,680
And then he decided he was an
artist, right?

1110
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,760
And things go wrong when people
realize that they're actually an

1111
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,240
artist.
Which is why I've never, Simply

1112
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,560
put, I stay humble, right?
Yeah.

1113
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,400
I'm thankful that I can do what
I can do and that when I play my

1114
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,600
instrument, people seem to
appreciate it.

1115
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,040
I'm I always just stop there
because things go horribly

1116
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,200
wrong.
And to your point, that's when

1117
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,600
you start reinterpreting your
song to the point where it's not

1118
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,600
so much fun for the audience,
right?

1119
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,720
Right.
I've talked all kind of.

1120
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:53,320
People out of going to see
Mellencamp because I'm like, I

1121
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,480
know what you expect.
You expect what you and I

1122
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,520
experienced.
Right, you're not.

1123
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,280
You're not getting any.
Right now, no.

1124
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,800
No, he's too.
He, he went, he went the wrong

1125
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,960
way.
He's just.

1126
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,200
He's just.
That's a great.

1127
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,440
Way of playing.
He's not.

1128
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,000
He's just, I mean, and he's
gone.

1129
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,240
The wrong way, John.
He and I love Mellencamp.

1130
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,960
I mean by all means, I mean one
of I just love the man and he's.

1131
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,880
An American treasure.
He.

1132
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Is but he knows it but.
He just, he, he ruined it.

1133
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,280
He ruined it.
It's kind of like Bruce

1134
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,880
Springsteen.
You don't fucking produce, thank

1135
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,600
you and get behind a movie about
yourself while you're still

1136
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,480
alive.
Like, can you be any more of a

1137
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,800
narcissist #1 There's three
people off.

1138
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040
The top of my head real quick.
Sorry, right?

1139
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Springsteen Mellencamp.
I'm going to really piss people

1140
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,920
off.
Fucking Bob Dylan.

1141
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,880
Yep.
Yep, we know you're great.

1142
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,440
You shut the fuck.
Up.

1143
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,640
You don't need it, right?
You don't need a movie about you

1144
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,800
while you're alive to know
you're great.

1145
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,880
Thank you.
You just don't like, you know,

1146
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,280
there's a reason why the doors
didn't come out till decades

1147
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,880
after Morrison died.
And we are in no way dissing on

1148
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,480
their music.
I love the boss.

1149
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Not at all.
He became the boss for a reason.

1150
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920
I love Bob Dylan, he's one of
the greatest songwriters in the

1151
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,480
history of the world.
Hate his voice?

1152
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,200
Hate his voice, but he's in the
basement.

1153
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Don't get the medicine.
Hit it.

1154
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,600
Hit it right, Yeah.
You don't.

1155
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,920
You don't get to say you are a
living legend.

1156
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,560
That's not how it.
Works.

1157
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,800
It does not work that way.
I get to tell.

1158
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,240
You that way, right, right.
There's a difference between

1159
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,640
behind the scene documentaries
like the Counting Crows just

1160
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080
did.
Because it's not saying we're

1161
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,760
the shit, It's saying this is an
awareness part of it.

1162
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,880
Understand mental illness.
Understand what happens when you

1163
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,760
reach this level of fame.
Understand these.

1164
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Different things.
I didn't look.

1165
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,640
At that as self, right, I didn't
look at that self something as

1166
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,760
all when you 2 came out with
Rattle and Hum.

1167
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,720
There's a lot of backlash with
that because you're like

1168
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,240
everybody's like who the fuck
are you?

1169
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,320
Right?
But Rattle and Hum captured the

1170
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,640
height of their fame and their
draw and their power as as as a

1171
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,920
music, as musicians well, here's
and took them to a whole new

1172
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,480
level.
Here's a good simple analogy.

1173
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,200
If I say that you're one of the
best singers that I ever graced

1174
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,360
a stage with, everybody's like,
which is true, man, that dude's

1175
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,440
awesome.
But if you come on here every

1176
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,040
week and say I was one of the
greatest singers that you ever

1177
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,680
got to play with, now you're a
douchebag, right?

1178
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:28,840
It's that's.
True, Mike.

1179
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,120
That's true Mike.
Yeah, yeah.

1180
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,520
You should really just thank me
every.

1181
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,400
Day I don't wake up.
Mike, you actually are the best

1182
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,320
singer that I ever graced the
stage with by a landslide.

1183
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,720
Well, and and and.
I can, I want here and say that

1184
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,440
I'm the best guitar player that
you ever got to play.

1185
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Hey, man, you're lucky you got
to play with me for 10 years,

1186
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,720
you know?
I but actually I am lucky that I

1187
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,480
got to play with you and and I
will say not to boost play

1188
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,960
massage he goes.
But really, I mean, I did get to

1189
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,920
play on stage with Ray Stone,
right, But that was that was one

1190
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,480
song and Ray was a great guitar
player.

1191
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
But Ray helps you become a great
guitar player.

1192
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Ray, I'm one of the greatest
guitar players I ever got to

1193
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:14,280
play with too.
And and Charles, I have to be

1194
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,400
careful higher word this.
Charles in the last band I was

1195
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,560
ever in, he was a very good
instrumentalist.

1196
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,400
And that's where I'll leave
that.

1197
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,600
He wasn't a great guitar player.
He thought he was.

1198
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,360
He was a great composer.
He thought he was and he was

1199
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
never humble.
He was very egotistical.

1200
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,160
He thought he was Eddie Van
Halen and he was not anywhere

1201
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,480
close to him.
The reason why that band kind of

1202
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,160
worked was because of Josh and
Jesse and we all kind of

1203
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:53,160
tolerated him.
And you right, Everybody has to

1204
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,360
tolerate me because I'm a
singer.

1205
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,280
So the difference between every
band I've been in a Nemesis was

1206
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,320
what we've talked about many,
many times.

1207
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,000
It was the collective.
We were naive, we were young, we

1208
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,480
were stupid.
We didn't know what to expect.

1209
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,120
We knew we loved the music.
We knew we loved writing music,

1210
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,160
we knew we loved playing music.
We knew we loved being in front

1211
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,320
of of people and sharing that
love and passion.

1212
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,800
And it was a very slow rise
locally, so we could enjoy it,

1213
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,400
right?
It was embraced where's I think

1214
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,240
some bands like Counting Crows.
I would say the smartest thing

1215
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,760
you needed, the smartest thing
that we did, whether it was

1216
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,440
consciously or unconsciously, is
we were smart enough to know we

1217
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,640
needed each other.
Yeah.

1218
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,240
The last scenario that you
described, I like to call those

1219
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,240
people, they have the potential
to be great at a lot of things,

1220
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,400
right?
Yeah, but they're in their own

1221
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,080
way.
So you have the potential to be

1222
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,160
great at a lot of things, but
you're never going to be that

1223
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,000
way because you don't realize
what we realized, either

1224
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,760
consciously or unconsciously,
that I'm not the singer.

1225
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,080
So I can't just keep being a
Dick to you or you're going to

1226
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,080
lead, Right.
Right.

1227
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,240
We had to figure out how to work
together as a unit even when we

1228
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,600
were not pissed at each other.
But when tensions would get high

1229
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,760
and that would happen when you
sit and play the same song 25

1230
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,440
times in a row and it's still
not right, tensions are going to

1231
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,440
get a little testy, right?
Yep, exactly.

1232
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,280
It's just human nature, but we
were smart enough to never cross

1233
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,080
that boundary of right, pissing
someone off to the point where

1234
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,440
they're going to leave.
Right, Nikki says.

1235
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Rick did describe the scenario
where Scott made him cry one

1236
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,000
time, but I had forgotten about
that until he brought that up.

1237
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,560
Yeah, yeah.
We didn't know.

1238
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,120
What was that back then, if you,
I don't know if you heard me or

1239
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,320
not, but Nikki says hi.
She asked what I was.

1240
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,840
Doing tell Nikki I said hi.
And and, and I took a screenshot

1241
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,280
of us and that's what you're
doing.

1242
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,240
So this Candace story, OK, the
Candace person that that

1243
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,320
messaged me right earlier.
In the show yes update.

1244
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
I gave her Andy's number which
seven?

1245
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:16,600
938-675-3099 she says.
I'm so sorry.

1246
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,400
Your number looks a lot like
Andy's.

1247
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,080
I accidentally saved the wrong
number.

1248
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,040
I hope I didn't upset you.
This is the best response for

1249
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,640
those of you that get spammed
like this because it shuts them

1250
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,920
up right now.
Well, I'm only 12 years old.

1251
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,000
I'll show this to my mom.
She'll call you if she needs to.

1252
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,360
Candace is no longer bothering
me.

1253
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,160
So because I've tried, I've
tried the approach that I go

1254
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,440
across.
No, this isn't Annie.

1255
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,560
This is.
This is Stacy, you know?

1256
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,520
Yeah, it doesn't work.
I'm a lesbian.

1257
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,440
And then they still go on that
tangent.

1258
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,560
I've I've gone, I've gone
immediately.

1259
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,920
Married not interested.
Oh, we can just go for coffee.

1260
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,040
No married not interested.
Well, we can just do this.

1261
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,800
I said, OK, can my wife come
along and we can have a

1262
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,800
three-way?
And then, and then they tell me

1263
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,120
I'm gross, but it's like you're
reaching out to me.

1264
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,280
There's there's there's there's
something behind some random

1265
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,800
check.
You know, with all the weirdos

1266
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
out there, you're lucky that
somebody didn't call your bluff.

1267
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,840
Right.
This is a scam, right?

1268
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,800
This is a scam, OK.
And and so for the people that

1269
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,760
that think that's legit, it's
not.

1270
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,160
So I always just respond that
way.

1271
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,360
I had somebody had somebody the
other day.

1272
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,720
The first thing on the text was
this, Chris.

1273
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,080
And I'm like, I'm always like,
that depends.

1274
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,520
Because how do you respond to
that?

1275
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,640
Well, here's another public
service announcement.

1276
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:50,400
If somebody ever calls you on
the phone and asks you, hey, is

1277
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,160
this Chris?
They're looking for you to say

1278
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,440
yes.
They want to record your voice

1279
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,200
and then they will use your
voice to go buy shit online.

1280
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,200
So if you ever do pick up a spam
call and it's a yes or no

1281
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,160
question, answer it differently.
Do not use the words yes or no.

1282
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,840
Why we're on that topic, Zoom
right now, there's there's a

1283
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,280
scam going on with Zoom,
especially in in industries

1284
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,960
where you can connect via Zoom.
Like I can call somebody,

1285
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,320
somebody can call me up or
e-mail me.

1286
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Hey, I want to buy a house.
OK, Can I zoom you?

1287
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:21,920
Great.
Let's Zoom.

1288
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,000
Sure.
What they're doing now is they

1289
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,560
are screen recording the zoom
call and what they do, I could

1290
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,360
totally do this.
Right now they have a scheme.

1291
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,920
They have a thing called screen
pal.

1292
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,640
OK, and I'm pulling up my screen
pal right now.

1293
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:42,080
We'll see how this works and
screen pal, I can record the

1294
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,560
show on my desktop.
Why we're having a show and what

1295
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,320
these criminals are doing, it's
counting down right now.

1296
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,080
What these criminals are doing
is they're taking me on a Zoom

1297
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,120
call and they're they're
recording my face, my voice,

1298
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,040
audio, visual.
And because AI is what it is,

1299
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,280
they're going to now take this
and download it to an app.

1300
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,080
And then all of a sudden they
can start using my exact

1301
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,200
likeness, my exact voice.
I'm really helping you, blah,

1302
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,680
blah, blah.
I want you to come along and do

1303
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,840
whatever it is you want to do
with me.

1304
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,000
So I just recorded, I don't know
how many seconds of this.

1305
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,680
I'll throw this up on the on our
Facebook page so you can check

1306
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,400
it out.
It's, it's pretty crazy, man.

1307
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,800
That's crazy, man.
Yeah, yeah.

1308
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,040
So if you don't want to have
been.

1309
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,520
Heard of?
That's a good one, right?

1310
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,960
So if you're in an.
Industry, boys and girls.

1311
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:37,520
That people can reach out to you
via Zoom.

1312
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,120
Hey, I want to zoom you type
thing, you know, because I do it

1313
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,440
all the time.
People, people reach out to me

1314
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,000
all the time, wanting wanting to
buy a house and and you know, I,

1315
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,920
I begin able to I'm I'm kind of
used to seeing the scams,

1316
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,400
especially when they want to do
WhatsApp, right.

1317
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,280
Somebody sends me a message.
Oh, I prefer to talk on

1318
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:55,000
WhatsApp.
Fuck you.

1319
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,440
I'm not calling you on WhatsApp.
What are they looking to do on

1320
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,640
that?
Because I'm not from they want

1321
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,160
to buy a house they they.
Want to buy a house?

1322
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,240
I got one like I I got 1.
Earlier this morning that, but

1323
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,040
what's the reason for you not
wanting to use the WhatsApp

1324
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:07,760
feature?
What?

1325
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,880
Because WhatsApp scammers?
What WhatsApp?

1326
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,520
Is a it's a secret.
It's a every it's, it's, it's

1327
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,600
what the fuck is it?
It's, it's shady, right?

1328
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,560
It's Slim Shady.
It's like, it's like you can't

1329
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,320
see it.
It's it's it's firewalled.

1330
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,520
I don't know how it's explained
like a super firewall, like you

1331
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,480
can't, you can't nobody can,
can, can read WhatsApp.

1332
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,800
You can't read the the it's all
secured like encrypted, you

1333
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,240
know?
Yeah, there you go.

1334
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,880
Something to that effect where?
You just can't.

1335
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,160
You're not getting.
You're not going to really know

1336
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,360
who you're talking to, right?
Right.

1337
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,600
So when, When, when?
People reach out to me like

1338
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:47,360
that.
I call bullshit.

1339
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,680
So I had this guy this morning
e-mail Chris right?

1340
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:57,840
I need property at Arizona Comma
AZ and I got your contact on

1341
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,160
Zillow Realty and I think we can
work together.

1342
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,320
I'd love to get the more details
and possibly schedule time to

1343
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:08,120
view any any on the property you
send and that suits me.

1344
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:13,120
And also could you please share
more information and let me know

1345
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,320
the next steps.
Thank you.

1346
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,560
Hummer.
Hummer.

1347
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,720
Hummer.
Hummer Simpson.

1348
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,240
OK, Hummer.
Simpsons.

1349
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:25,479
Plural.
So I sent in this this.

1350
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,720
This.
E-mail that basically summarizes

1351
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,600
the home buying process blah
blah blah blah blah.

1352
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:36,359
What today worked him to set you
up on a Google meet?

1353
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,040
There it is right there because
I asked him certain things he's

1354
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,720
like thank you for getting back
to me so quickly.

1355
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,800
I'd really like to schedule time
to see property if we find one

1356
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,840
because I have none in mind at
the moment.

1357
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,960
What's why I contacted you.
Could you let me know what times

1358
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,120
you're available this weekend
before you proceed exchanging

1359
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,439
documents With my pre approval?
I like to have a quick Google

1360
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,520
meet call to properly connect
and establish that I I it

1361
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:03,600
doesn't need to be long.
So right there, that's the scam.

1362
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,040
So you get inundated with real
estate.

1363
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,760
Fake scams like you and I get
inundated with We want to

1364
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,000
promote your podcast every day,
right, right, right which every

1365
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,319
time some kind of scam.
Yep, and every time.

1366
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,240
That somebody says they want to
promote the podcast.

1367
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:20,640
I said why don't you do promote
it?

1368
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,880
You obviously found us.
Yeah, that's my favorite

1369
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,000
comeback when you started.
Doing the first time I saw that,

1370
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,760
I shit you not, I laugh my ass
off.

1371
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,120
I just kept chuckling.
I'm like, that's a great.

1372
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,560
I'm like, I'm like, obviously
the SEO content works because

1373
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,120
you found me.
Like you cannot deny that

1374
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,000
question.
You can't.

1375
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,359
Like it's just it's impossible.
Like, well, you didn't even

1376
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,439
elaborate that time.
That's what made me laugh.

1377
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,080
So much the whole statement.
Ladies and gentlemen, when you

1378
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,399
saw the e-mail was you found us.
Period.

1379
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,479
And he left it at that.
It was like a mic drop moment.

1380
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,960
Yeah.
Yeah.

1381
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,040
It's just it's, it's mind
bogging that people, people.

1382
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,880
Actually think we're that
stupid.

1383
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,880
We had another one today in the
in the Christian Mike show

1384
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,040
Gmail.
Another 1 today as as I was

1385
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:09,160
waiting for as I was waiting for
the the the the artist or the

1386
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,360
label that was supposed to be
on.

1387
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,240
So if you remember, I should
give her a shout out.

1388
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,720
There's one that comes to me.
About every quarter.

1389
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,640
And she's not asking for
anything.

1390
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,800
She does provide a service, but
she gives you where you rank for

1391
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,880
all the keywords.
I think her name is Andrea

1392
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,240
Rossi, if I remember right.
OK.

1393
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,160
But there's no pressure at all.
So Andrea.

1394
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,360
I know her first name is Andrea.
Thank you for being

1395
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,560
professional.
Yeah, and it is cool to see

1396
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,840
where you rank.
For all your different.

1397
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,000
Keywords It truly is humorous
we're.

1398
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,640
Number one.
So we must be funny, right?

1399
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,800
I just learned that that.
I can upload from screen pal

1400
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,680
straight to YouTube and kind of
like we can with Riverside.

1401
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,640
We can upload the Riverside and
and that's pretty legit.

1402
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:57,960
Where the hell is this thing
man?

1403
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,400
I just recorded it.
Where'd it go?

1404
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,760
Where did it go man?
I lost it Mike.

1405
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,720
That does happen.
Why?

1406
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,360
I can go back into the program,
but I didn't want.

1407
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,840
To go back to the program I just
wanted.

1408
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,600
To.
That's why I download everything

1409
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,760
to my desktop and then, well, it
usually downloads.

1410
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,080
To my.
It usually does download to my

1411
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:16,840
desktop.
I don't know why.

1412
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,200
I didn't save video, I'm still
that guy too.

1413
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,280
Just throw it on the desktop,
I'll figure out.

1414
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,520
Where it goes later, yeah, but I
want to show you.

1415
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,920
Because it's it's pretty neat
how it how it it, it, it takes

1416
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,880
what's on the screen.
It's called screen pal.

1417
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,200
It's free.
I do a lot of with work with.

1418
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,240
You know.
When somebody's when somebody's

1419
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,520
wanting to learn how to, you
know, sign documents or

1420
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,520
something, I'll do a screen pal
tutorial.

1421
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,400
Hey, this is how you do this
you're going to get this and

1422
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,960
just, you know, go ahead and and
there it is.

1423
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,640
Would you stop screen pal, like
screen pal just wants to take

1424
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,760
over, man.
So I'm going to put this oh,

1425
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,920
what what what that's not what I
meant come on stupid thing.

1426
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:10,640
It's hard to multitask photo
yes, please download That's

1427
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,000
funny you mentioned that word
yesterday I just.

1428
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,760
Read that.
They have proven scientifically

1429
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,280
that you know when someone says
they're good at multitasking.

1430
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,080
Yeah, no one's good at
multitasking.

1431
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,600
It actually lowers.
Your IQ.

1432
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,520
The more tasks that you add at
the same time, your IQ actually

1433
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:33,600
drops because your brain has to
assign different projects to

1434
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,520
each individual tasks that
you're doing.

1435
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,800
See.
See Chris, ladies and gentlemen.

1436
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,160
Chris.
Has got so many tasks going on

1437
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,800
that his brain has literally
stopped so that I put it on I

1438
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,880
put it on our.
On our Facebook page, that

1439
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,640
little snippet of of insight
there.

1440
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,840
Yeah, I want to check that out.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1441
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:01,320
It's it's pretty cool that that,
that it definitely can.

1442
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,960
It's freaky.
So don't, don't, don't jump on

1443
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Zoom calls or Google meets with
people that you don't know.

1444
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:15,480
You know, vet them fully prior
to because, you know, and just

1445
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:17,840
for the record, there is no gold
in Nigeria.

1446
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,600
No there's not, and there's no
Prince of Nubu that needs your

1447
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,120
your.
Money, OK, let me rephrase that.

1448
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,720
There is gold in Nigeria, but.
Nobody's trying to give it to

1449
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,480
you.
No, no.

1450
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,360
And Candace is not real.
So when you get spammed with

1451
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,240
with women and even and for you
females, if you get scammed with

1452
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,080
men, that's the best thing is,
is just to tell them that you're

1453
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,080
12 and you're going to give this
to your mom and your mom's going

1454
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,680
to call.
If I could talk like a female, I

1455
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,480
would totally call that number
and act like the mom and I would

1456
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,360
have lit Candace up.
Yeah, I can't, but I can't.

1457
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,880
I can't call as a father because
he's.

1458
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:59,400
Oh, you're dominant, aren't you?
Hey, baby, I've been a bad girl.

1459
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,520
Andy Andy's dad.
I've been so naughty.

1460
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,600
Do you want to spank me?
Andy's daddy?

1461
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,200
Kind of like on one of the last
Beavis and.

1462
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,440
Butt heads, this chick comes
strolling up to their house or

1463
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,880
she comes cruising up to their
house in her car and she's like,

1464
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,360
can you guys help me find a my
Airbnb?

1465
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,040
Butt Head says if you're looking
for B&B, you came to the right

1466
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,840
place, baby.
Give us some butt heads.

1467
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,840
Oh, shit, that's funny.
All right, we're going to wrap

1468
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,280
this thing up.
Hey, so this is this is Chris,

1469
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,440
this is Mike.
Chris and Mike show.

1470
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,160
Thank you for joining us.
If you're feeling a sad,

1471
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,040
suicidal, depressed, especially
this time of year, because it

1472
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,840
just escalates because it's the
holiday season and people start

1473
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,400
feeling alone or depressed,
you're not alone.

1474
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Find somebody to talk to.
You can't find somebody to talk

1475
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,000
to you text 988.
Somebody's there to talk you off

1476
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,880
that Cliff and, and, and make
your, your mind kind of shift to

1477
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,240
a positive space.
You're not alone.

1478
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,880
People do love you.
Somebody will miss you.

1479
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,920
Will you will leave a hole in
somebody's heart if you leave

1480
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,440
this world without permission,
right?

1481
01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:07,840
We all need permission.
So don't do that.

1482
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,600
Poor Chris would only have half
a show, right?

1483
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:11,840
Or Mike wouldn't even have a
show.

1484
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,960
Because if I was.
Dead Mike never would have

1485
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,200
thought of this, and I would
have thought of it.

1486
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,640
I would have never carried
through with it, right?

1487
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,160
So there you go.
You got to have.

1488
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,360
You got to have the Ying and the
Yang.

1489
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,160
To make the world go round so
you are loved.

1490
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,120
You will be missed.
So it's a crazy time of year.

1491
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,000
Text 988.
It's your friend.

1492
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,320
Somebody's always there,
somebody's always waiting to

1493
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,280
help you.
And with that talk, be nice to

1494
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,080
the people that you're out.
That are working yes, and

1495
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,680
because they're stressed out too
yeah, you don't know you don't

1496
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,040
know what somebody's going
through just be.

1497
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,840
Killed This is a rough time of
year.

1498
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,040
That's a.
That's a very valid.

1499
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Point it is just open the door
for somebody, smile at people

1500
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,480
when people are.
When you're walking like every

1501
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:54,800
now and then you walk contact,
you know, I, I, I get kind of it

1502
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,760
bothers you when you walk by
somebody and their their heads

1503
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,840
down, You know, you see that a
lot in the city.

1504
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,200
That's one thing that.
Changed for me.

1505
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,960
When I move back to a.
Small town, yeah, but I think a

1506
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,680
lot of it's just you're
inundated with so many people

1507
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,760
that that.
Becomes.

1508
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,840
Just kind of your way of life,
you know?

1509
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,480
Yeah, but, and it does suck, you
know, there was, there was.

1510
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,360
This is totally going to relate
to this.

1511
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:22,960
So there's one.
Thing that that a writer of on

1512
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,440
the on the documentary for the
Counting Crows.

1513
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:29,320
Have you seen me lately?
The the difference between

1514
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,560
grunge and all the grunge music
that was out because like,

1515
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,520
right, you're watching hair
metal and then overnight it's

1516
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,840
it's grunge.
And then, you know, three months

1517
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,960
later, all of a sudden Counting
Crows shot, He's like, he's

1518
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,000
like, when when you're watching
MTV, you have Trent Razor doing

1519
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,560
this, you know, like really, you
know, struggling and heads down

1520
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,560
and and the weight of the
world's on her shoulders.

1521
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:58,000
And he's like, and then you have
Mr. Jones come out Joe's enemy.

1522
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,120
He's he's up and he's happy and
he's bouncing and he's lively

1523
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,520
and the dreads are going.
He's like, it was the complete

1524
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,480
polar opposite of what we were
fed forever.

1525
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,600
And then here comes Counting
Crows.

1526
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,240
And it's just this light
hearted.

1527
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,600
I want to be a rock star.
And there's nothing you do you

1528
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,360
can do to prevent that.
Same reason Hootie and the

1529
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,840
blowfish took off during that
time.

1530
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,720
Uplifting.
Positive.

1531
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,040
Even if it wasn't positive, it
felt uplifting, right?

1532
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:28,920
Yeah.
So.

1533
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,360
Yeah.
So go watch the documentary if

1534
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:31,400
you like.
Counting Crows, even if you're

1535
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:36,400
just a fan of music and the art
of making music, it it's on HBO

1536
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Max.
Have you seen me lately?

1537
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,560
It just came out last night.
It's about an hour and a half.

1538
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,360
It's a good watch.
It's a little, it's gets slow a

1539
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:46,960
little bit, but it's a really,
it's a really good, sounds like

1540
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,560
a good life story, which we
yeah, yeah, yeah.

1541
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,120
Which?
It is.

1542
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,280
It's truly is.
It's not.

1543
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,560
It's a little atom centric
because it has to be because I

1544
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,840
didn't realize Adam was Counting
Crows.

1545
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:57,560
I didn't.
I always.

1546
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,480
That's what I learned through
your discussion there.

1547
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,680
Yeah, I always thought it.
Was a band because me too comes

1548
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,840
across.
As a band.

1549
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,720
But it's not.
He is the driving force behind

1550
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,640
that thing.
It's just, you know, I don't

1551
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,960
want to say it's his way or the
highway.

1552
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,120
But there's points in the
documentary that the bandmates

1553
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,560
are like, yeah, like they were
going to like, like, when they

1554
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,320
got on Rolling Stone, they
offered to go on Rolling Stone.

1555
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,760
Adam's like, I didn't want to do
it.

1556
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,160
But how do you say no?
Like, you can't say no to that.

1557
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,120
They were asked to play the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame induction

1558
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ceremony when they were
nobodies.

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He's like, who does that?
And so he's they're playing the

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
This was back when you didn't

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have, it wasn't theater seating.
It was tables.

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Everybody's sitting around
tables eating their food and

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01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,880
shit.
Nobody stood up on there, right?

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,840
Right.
Like you just, you know, dinner

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and they'll dinner.
In the show.

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He's like, how do you say no to
that?

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01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:57,720
You can't.
You can't say no to that, and

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,160
you can't say no to being on the
cover.

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Rolling Stone and the and the
Rock and roll Hall of Fame got

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them on SNL, which got them on
Rolling Stone, which got them 7

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million album sales, three years
non-stop touring.

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And the other thing that we
didn't talk about, but it does a

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very good it has a very good
insight to life on the road for

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somebody, for a group of men who
thought it was going to be 4

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months when they talk about
being on the road, it's it's OK.

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01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,520
Like Nikki is like, see, OK,
it's OK.

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But yeah, it's a good show, so
check it out.

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Until next time, boys and girls.
Merry Christmas.

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Happy New Year if we don't.
Yeah, Merry Christmas to

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everybody.
Yeah, Happy Holidays is going to

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drop.
So.

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But yeah, be kind.
Open a door for somebody, say

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,720
hi, smile.
You don't know what they're

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struggling with.
So be that person that gives

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,880
them a little jolt of, you know,
sunshine.

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,080
Thanks for texting Candace.
My mom's going to call you here

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shortly.
Made for good podcast talk so we

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,960
appreciate it.
Love you all, love you brother.

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Peace, Peace.