#211 - Chris & Mike - Growing Audience & Engagement

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Speaker 1 (1:38): You know what's hilarious? Every day I leave and I can almost pinpoint the exact moment in time where my car is going to tell me that my MacBook, which I'm looking at right now has been left behind the poor thing.

Speaker 0 (1:50): See, that shit happens to me too. Cash cards. These are flashcards for closers. What is that? Say, let me show you.

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Speaker 0 (2:00): Are to you ready to close more deals and earn more money? Oh, they're too small for me to read their little, their little cash cards. They're little objective handlers. My buddy Nick gave them to me.

Unknown Speaker (2:12): It's kind of funny. That's hilarious. This is my training weapon. This is only a test.

Speaker 0 (2:20): It's rubber. The proper way to hold a weapon to boys and girls is, is you, you, you line up your, your thumbs there.

Unknown Speaker (2:26): That's not how they do it in the movies.

Speaker 0 (2:28): I know how they do it in the movies is wrong. Okay. It's wrong. Learned this from executive protectors. I've learned this.

Speaker 0 (2:35): I learned this shit from secret service people.

Unknown Speaker (2:37): Well, then I would say that's a proper way to hold a gun.

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Speaker 0 (2:56): That's it for promos. That's it for promos. I have no other promos except for, hey, this portion of the show is brought to you by Riverside FM, the one and only choice for your podcasting platforms, at least Mike and I think so. Because we use them and, you know, again, like Mike said earlier, we're live on Twitch, YouTube and chrisandmikeshoe.com.com. Chrisandmakeshew.com.

Unknown Speaker (3:18): Okay. I'm glad you

Unknown Speaker (3:19): did that.

Unknown Speaker (3:20): Gonna interrupt you for just a second. Sweet. I swear that because you have done that Irish accent since the very beginning, and he does, if you haven't gone back to the beginning and watched the episode with Dave from Ireland, please do.

Unknown Speaker (3:34): Dave from Ireland. Dave

Unknown Speaker (3:36): We from have an ever growing Irish contingent.

Unknown Speaker (3:40): Too early?

Unknown Speaker (3:40): Yes. Right on. On. Because on our website, it shows us how many unique visitors we have from each country. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (3:46): And shout out to Ireland. Guys continue to kick ass and grow. Thank you for joining along for the

Unknown Speaker (3:51): ride. It's the home. It's the home of the motherland. It's the great potato famine. We survived.

Unknown Speaker (3:59): Chris is a

Unknown Speaker (4:00): big fan of your country. Survived. Why I'm Irish? I'm part Irish. I know that.

Speaker 0 (4:04): Know, Nikki's Nikki's working on becoming Italian citizen because she decided a couple of days ago that, we're going to re in ten years when she's done teaching, we're moving to Italy to retire and there's worse places to be because I can do everything I need to with the Google machine. Yes. And I can just refer business and realtors and shit and and it's cheap. It's like $2,500 a month. I think she said we could live in Italy.

Speaker 0 (4:32): I was like, wow, she's been researching A all these

Speaker 1 (4:35): guy that used to do some graphic arts work for us for the band back in the day was from South Africa. Lived all over the world. His wife was from England, so he lived there for a while. Okay. Obviously lived in The United States, Arizona, New York City.

Speaker 1 (4:49): He retired to Puerto Penasco, which is just across the border from Yuma. Okay. Basically on the East Side Of Baja. Right? Okay.

Speaker 1 (4:59): Looking out at the Pacific Ocean every day, he basically said, if you can scrape up a $100, you can live like a king here.

Unknown Speaker (5:05): Oh, I think you told me that before.

Speaker 1 (5:07): Yeah. Just that idea has been rattling around in

Speaker 0 (5:09): my head for quite some time now. The problem with that is it's too hot for Nikki.

Speaker 1 (5:16): I don't think that'll bother me when I'm old,

Speaker 0 (5:18): but I'm different. Yeah. Yeah. She won't be down for that. And I don't plan to be that old.

Speaker 0 (5:23): I don't want to be old and decrepit old, know, I don't I don't want to be the diaper guy. You're not going to

Unknown Speaker (5:28): have that problem.

Speaker 0 (5:28): Hopefully not. Hopefully not. A little senility never hurt, but we would watch them. Have you we've been watching this thing. We watched this this wayward widow's Widow's Bay.

Speaker 0 (5:38): Did you watch that? Widow's Bay on Right?

Unknown Speaker (5:40): I'm so glad you just brought that up. That is the sleeper show of the summer.

Unknown Speaker (5:44): If you

Unknown Speaker (5:44): have not watched Widow's Bay, ladies and gentlemen, do it.

Speaker 0 (5:47): Yeah. There's another one with that actor Michael Riles. It's called

Unknown Speaker (5:50): The Beast in Me. Oh. Okay. I'll check that out I as another one. The Beast know what in suck me into Widow's Bay?

Speaker 1 (5:57): No, I don't. Shout out to Steven Root. Will watch anything that Steven Root puts his staff on. So please, Steven Root, come on to Chris and Mike show and tell us why you're so awesome. Because everything that guy has ever been in, starting with Office Space, which is where I got introduced to Steven Root, he nails everything he picks.

Speaker 0 (6:19): I got I introduced him to him in news radio. Then I realized he

Unknown Speaker (6:22): was in

Speaker 0 (6:22): office space afterwards. I found him in news radio later. He was he was in Barry. Yeah, the Bill Hader, the Bill Hader show. Yeah, Barry.

Speaker 0 (6:31): If he'd yeah, Barry is great. So we finished watching him. We watched all the Dexter's now. Watched the entire Dexter series originally, right? And then we watched Desert Desert New Blood Dexter, Desert New Blood Dexter New Blood.

Speaker 0 (6:43): I saw that

Speaker 1 (6:44): one Dexter Resurrection. I started that one. I don't think I ever

Speaker 0 (6:48): finished it. Finish it. Finish it. Okay. That's good.

Speaker 0 (6:51): That's good. Peter Dinklage is in that one.

Speaker 1 (6:54): Yeah. He's another great actor. I love him.

Unknown Speaker (6:56): Yeah. Yeah. He's such a little guy.

Unknown Speaker (6:58): Yeah. But he plays bigger than himself.

Speaker 0 (7:02): He commands a presence. He was there's a, there's a part, there's a part in the show. I'm not gonna give it away, but they show his feet. Fucker. Dude's got some massive feet, man, for being a little dude.

Speaker 0 (7:12): Really? Yeah. He's got this massive head for being in this whole body and these mass. I'm like, kid, you not. He's gotta be wearing like a size ten foot shoe.

Speaker 0 (7:19): Easy. It's a big foot, which, you know,

Speaker 1 (7:22): he's one of those little people that you don't really look at as a little person. Don't. Same reason you just brought up. Commands you to pay attention to him simply because he's such a great actor and a unique Call

Speaker 0 (7:37): me elf one more time. People don't realize that sometimes what he's been in. Like he was, he was Alf and he was, he was the writer, the children's novelist and Alf. Oh, no. Was just, I was just had a will for a moment, this was the show when we had that moment where that we had that one guy on that was a photographer, the cinematographer for Talladega Nights.

Speaker 0 (8:01): How the script was fucking stupid and not funny and everything was improv and ad libbed. Who would have thought? Which I know, right?

Speaker 1 (8:07): The whole reason that movie is probably so hilarious.

Speaker 0 (8:09): Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's one of those movies you can watch over and over again,

Unknown Speaker (8:13): you know? Oh, I probably seen it 50 times at least.

Speaker 0 (8:16): Right. The dinner table. My son's Walker, Texas Ranger.

Unknown Speaker (8:23): They start talking about we can use the grown up version of Jesus. Yeah, but I prefer the little baby Jesus. Baby Jesus, yeah, with the

Unknown Speaker (8:30): gold pound. Gold pounds. Four ounce baby Jesus. Golden diapers. Chip, I'm coming at like a smiley monkey monkey.

Unknown Speaker (8:41): How much you want for that? How much you want for that weed old man? See, I think it'd be funny if they allowed the kids in the movie to just improv and you know what I mean? Or if it was the adults kind of I'd be curious how

Unknown Speaker (8:58): much of that at that dinner table scene was improv versus script for sure.

Speaker 0 (9:02): I think it was all improv because according to our guests, I forget who that was because we have so many guests. Sorry.

Unknown Speaker (9:09): Yes. I remember I would say

Speaker 0 (9:11): but but I just I was that Dominic that was Dominic Natty wasn't it? That's how

Speaker 1 (9:18): he got started. Right? It was absolutely. Dominic. He's a

Unknown Speaker (9:22): 100% correct. Sorry. My bad man. Shout out, brother. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (9:25): He walked in and got that gig just because he walked into the office and applied for it.

Unknown Speaker (9:30): Way to go, Chris.

Speaker 0 (9:30): Yeah. I really, I don't, like he said, the whole script was terrible. So to me, the whole thing had to be improv and ad libbed and that would include the dinner table because that was funny, you know, so now some of the stuff they do doesn't work when they when they ad lib it. Like, think they probably did the same thing with that Sherlock Holmes one that was just fucking stupid. That was terrible.

Speaker 0 (9:53): It was like we walked out and Eric and I, well, we've walked out of two movies our entire lifetime of that and sausage fest or sausage party. And it was just like, dude, everything's like, I don't know. I type in the Google machine. You're going to get quite a, a sausage party, sausage party. Sorry.

Unknown Speaker (10:12): Sausage party. Yeah. I would just, uh-uh. So, you know, there you go. That's all I got.

Speaker 0 (10:22): What do you got?

Speaker 1 (10:23): We got lots of stuff. I'm gonna let you toot your own horn because I don't know what happened from May 30 and Joseph and I talked about it a little bit, but you weren't The YouTube community kicks ass. Yeah. So we're gonna give another shout out to the YouTube community because Chris has done an amazing job of being consistent for, I don't know how many weeks on end, over a 100.

Speaker 0 (10:49): We're posting, I have posting scheduled till August right now.

Speaker 1 (10:55): August. And you've been doing this consistently since 2024.

Speaker 0 (11:01): Something like that. When I, when I

Unknown Speaker (11:02): March 2024, April.

Speaker 0 (11:04): Something like that.

Speaker 1 (11:05): Okay. So twenty ninth, we had 1,129 subscribers. Okay. And approximately, I don't know, 300 and some thousand views. Right?

Speaker 1 (11:20): 400,000. I don't even think it was 400,000. I don't remember. Since May 29, we've consistently just added people over and over and over again. We fell into some kind of algorithm where people were sharing us because the views, as Chris likes to say, coincided with the number of subscribers that we're adding.

Speaker 1 (11:41): A point I would really like to make, is we always say we've grown this organically. The number of views on the shorts and the actual shows themselves probably went up a 100 times. Wow. That's cool.

Speaker 0 (12:00): I've see, to me, I think it coincides with who we've had

Speaker 1 (12:03): on the show. Helps a lot. I mean, shout out to everybody who's come on here and, you know, praised us for having a good time. And whether you hear it or not, I'm not sure how much of the ending is recorded every time, but sometimes we talk about it at the end, sometimes we talk about it privately with the guest, but more often than not, the guest will get off and say, I felt so comfortable, or I really enjoyed that conversation, or that's not what I expected, or it's always what we would hope they feel comfortable in, right?

Unknown Speaker (12:35): Yeah, agreed. I

Speaker 1 (12:36): think that portrays to the people who are listening from the few regular listeners that I have personal contact with. Right. So here's the page. -PETER: Hey, look, we're live right now. I'm gonna go watch.

Unknown Speaker (12:47): I know. I know we are live. We are welcome to

Speaker 0 (12:49): our live awesome. Love that Okay, so click the More. This is where Right? This is where you see the things?

Unknown Speaker (12:55): -That's how

Speaker 0 (12:55): I keep track of the news. Yeah. So 6300And90 subscribers, I think that means. Correct. And sixteen twenty two videos.

Speaker 0 (13:03): Now that's just videos that have been posted.

Speaker 1 (13:06): That's how many you've uploaded as of right now.

Speaker 0 (13:10): Right. But we're, we're scheduled out to August because that's how

Unknown Speaker (13:14): I do it. And that's 663,000 views, which is pretty cool for two guys that nobody really had heard of two years ago,

Speaker 0 (13:24): right? So when you go to our YouTube channel, you click videos, you can click the latest, you can click popular.

Unknown Speaker (13:33): I use this channel as well. Look That's why I'm so

Speaker 0 (13:36): at that. What's that say? That's 257,000 views.

Unknown Speaker (13:41): Oh, I never saw that one or I want to be sure they

Speaker 0 (13:43): should have done No, that's the one to be the guest. That's that's the goofy one.

Speaker 1 (13:47): I know, but that one had like 8,000 the last time I looked.

Speaker 0 (13:51): What I mean, like we said earlier, just be a human breathing, living. It'd be cool to have a zombie on if that's possible. I don't know how we communicate with a zombie.

Unknown Speaker (13:58): I don't think a zombie would be a very good podcast other than the fact that we could say we had a zombie.

Unknown Speaker (14:03): I don't think we're gonna

Unknown Speaker (14:04): get a lot of interaction.

Speaker 0 (14:05): Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (14:08): We could do a short with a zombie.

Unknown Speaker (14:09): We could do a short with a zombie. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker (14:11): Does Dave Marlin know any zombies?

Speaker 0 (14:13): I don't know. I maybe vampires, if you're a vampire or a werewolf, that would be cool. Come on. Sweet. You know?

Unknown Speaker (14:18): Yeah. Just anybody, everybody wants to come on the show. Just let us know. We'll talk to you and, you know, it's not

Unknown Speaker (14:22): hard to figure out why why we're in a band together. We're into the same shit. Zombies, All werewolves, serious

Unknown Speaker (14:28): the things that make you warm and fuzzy

Unknown Speaker (14:29): at night. Country line dancing. Exactly. Just to prove

Speaker 0 (14:32): we're not wispy. Exactly. YouTube channel too. Don't forget to subscribe, especially those watching because you'll, you'll get all the alerts when we drop things. So, you know, boys and girls, until next time, if you're having a bad day, don't not let the bad day win.

Speaker 0 (14:43): Somebody loves you. Yeah. So that that I

Speaker 1 (14:49): had no idea that one had surpassed a quarter million views.

Speaker 0 (14:52): I didn't either till just now. How do I get back to the show? I don't wanna get massive, that chick massive there. Yeah. So shorts.

Speaker 0 (15:01): So tons and tons of shorts. And again, you do get alerted if if you subscribe. So you'll know every day when something drops and we drop stuff at 6AM, twelve noon, and 6PM. And then the day that we have shows, there's a 10AM drop. And these are not in order for the show.

Speaker 0 (15:23): As you can see, they're, they're different. And I do that on purpose. I try to be random with them. So like, this is Jesus. Is he white or not?

Speaker 0 (15:32): And then you have, you have Don, I used to use cop killer controversy, right? Then you have a man cuts off his penis while driving. We discussed loss shocking ending and then Jason Kelsey, you know, and how how he's only there because of because of Travis Think about diversity. That's why I'm doing this. Look that.

Speaker 0 (15:56): Look at that. Just jam, no drama. Jesus wide or not? Too down from it.

Unknown Speaker (16:01): Did a man cut off his penis while driving? Right.

Speaker 0 (16:03): And we're just curious. And then you have alien abduction with Nate Palmer. Somebody on

Speaker 1 (16:08): the Jesus is white Mhmm. Real would like you that to it really does not matter if you truly And believe in I agree with them.

Speaker 0 (16:16): Yeah. If you truly believe. Yeah. So then you have Tyson Gilbert's radio driven crime and I like finding balance and intensity. I mean, it's it's it's truly a nice dynamic of all these different people and all these different conversations, the shorts.

Speaker 0 (16:33): And that's why I like the shorts and I like to post them because it's it's always different. It's always something new. You're not going to see the same the same guest every day for ten days. You're going to see different people dropping at different times. And that's the cool thing about it.

Speaker 0 (16:48): And just like

Speaker 1 (16:49): the show itself, I feel like I've gotten way better at not knowing what people want, but trying to deliver at least a concise content.

Speaker 0 (16:58): Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then there's our live shows. Look at those. I didn't know.

Unknown Speaker (17:03): Look at those numbers. Scroll down a little bit to when the peak kind of happened.

Speaker 0 (17:08): Yeah. I didn't, I didn't realize that that that these stayed on the page. Yeah. Because because live is hard sometimes because people are working shit like a 118 people were on on on his show, which is cool. And then, know, there's some Okay.

Unknown Speaker (17:24): Here's what I want to ask you. Go back to like where those numbers are bigger. Okay. I actually had this thought the other day and maybe people can chime in because now that community is growing. And once again, thanks YouTube community.

Unknown Speaker (17:36): You guys

Speaker 1 (17:37): kick ass. Yeah. Should we take that live show down after the show's over? Because we really would like to drive it to the edited professional version of the show. I think so.

Speaker 1 (17:51): I didn't think of that. It's just a thought I had. I'm fine with leaving them there. I don't care. It doesn't bother me either way.

Speaker 1 (17:58): Just if people are watching the show live, bless you. The last time that Joseph and I were on by ourselves, I think it was just fortuitous, but a bunch of people chimed in the chat and we had a nice conversation. But I don't know if we'd lose that conversation if we delete the live show. I don't know. We'll have to.

Speaker 0 (18:17): Well, here's something I just caught like see season one, season two, season three. Don't have a thumbnail for season four. What the hell is wrong with me? How did

Speaker 1 (18:25): I never notice that? I'm usually good with quality control, ladies and gentlemen. I take pride in that myself.

Speaker 0 (18:31): I'm that's disappointing. I need to fix that.

Speaker 1 (18:34): And with that said, this is a two person operation those of you who are listening out there. There's not a machine behind us. If there's a machine that could add value and let us do exactly what we wanna do,

Speaker 0 (18:47): we'll talk. Yeah. This is one of my cool things that I like. So you can see these are the playlist. So season one has 53 episodes.

Speaker 0 (18:57): Season two, 55. Where's season three at? One, two. Oh, season three, 67 episodes. Season four has 36 right now, but see, then we have the shorts.

Speaker 0 (19:12): There's eleven forty six shorts. There's two seventy six inside the podcast. Now, if you don't understand what inside the podcast is, that is a Isn't

Speaker 1 (19:23): it inside the segment, a friend?

Speaker 0 (19:25): Yeah. Inside the segment. Yeah. It's it's basically anything from from this is Travis Lee Eller, ugly outlaw hats. And so this is a little snippet of the show.

Speaker 0 (19:39): So it's two two minutes, forty two seconds long. So if you're curious of who Travis Eller is, you can jump on those and you can watch the two and a half minute clip. And if that intrigues you, then you can click on the actual entire show and go down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (19:54): And here's something I'll say about the inside the segment. Was not a naysayer in the beginning, but I was curious as to how well those would do. Yeah. Some of those have hundreds of views, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:05): So they they're starting to do exactly what you just described. They're an advertisement for what you're gonna see. You know, it's a little bit longer than a thirty second or a fifty second Sure.

Speaker 0 (20:18): But it's nothing that's it's nothing that's super, super crazy. It's it's a quick enough because I mean, let's face it. We all have we all have life and lives, and it's hard sometimes to sit down. So I'm gonna watch an hour of Chris and Mike. You know?

Speaker 0 (20:31): I mean, we're not naive to that. It's it's but that's it's nice that then you can just if you subscribe, but as these things populate, you're gonna get notified, then you can take a look at them. You can watch them and, you know, that's just the cool thing about that. So, you know, don't be shy. Oh, look at that way back in the beginning episode number one, the inaugural podcast.

Unknown Speaker (20:53): Let's see how bad this is. Oh,

Unknown Speaker (20:58): did I say that? I'm Chris Dunham. Who are you? I'm like, that's pretty bad. This is the Chris and Mike show till they come up with something better.

Unknown Speaker (21:06): And we may never come up with anything better.

Unknown Speaker (21:09): Well, you never know.

Unknown Speaker (21:11): Here we are. Know, it's, you

Speaker 0 (21:12): know, it's crazy, dude. You sound like yourself. What? You sound like yourself on the You, you sound the same. You haven't changed your sound at all.

Speaker 0 (21:22): Your voice sounds the same. I hope my delivery's better. Right. We're get off that. That's that was cuts cool though, man.

Speaker 1 (21:33): Dig that. Yeah. So with that said, if you suffered through the first couple episodes on my behalf, keep going. It gets better.

Speaker 0 (21:40): Yeah, it does get better. It's everything gets better. Even even I wasn't on my game the first episode because nobody is. It's it's it's another episode. You just,

Speaker 1 (21:49): you know Well, you know what I equate it to? Wish we had a cassette. I'm dating myself, but that's all we probably could have had at the time. I really wish we had a version of our very first practice. I do too.

Speaker 1 (22:02): Because I remember the last show. I never forgot that. And I knew where we were as far as our skill level was. I think our very first practice would have mirrored that podcast.

Unknown Speaker (22:14): Yeah. Yeah, probably.

Unknown Speaker (22:17): Rogan's was pretty rough in the beginning too. It was a lot of, hey, how you doing? Brian Redband. Well, here we are.

Speaker 0 (22:24): Okay. I think a lot of it. I think a lot of it though is just you're feeling stuff out. You're learning, you know, you're you're learning what you're doing and and I think that's the biggest thing is that especially with a band, right? You can't you can't look at a band's first practice and then and think, this is how.

Speaker 0 (22:48): This is the growth because the growth is going to be regardless, you know, you just you just can't you can't look at that compared to first jam to last jam because you don't know each other. Don't you don't beginning. We're just learning. We're just, you know, now if now if you took it to our our, our, what are you doing stupid thing?

Speaker 1 (23:06): But I think we knew just like I was going to equate it to believe it or not. Led Zeppelin at one time only knew one song together. The first time they ever jammed in that practice space, they played train Kepa rolling for I think Jimmy Page said two or three hours straight. Just right. But they knew that chemistry was there.

Speaker 1 (23:25): I think we knew the chemistry was there. It I'm just impressed it, you know, now that we've done 200 and some episodes of the show and we talk about the band a lot, it took my brain from Free Man to Intervention Divine. Right? Right. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:42): That was my songwriting adventure.

Unknown Speaker (23:47): Yeah, for sure. Did you just make music? Did you just play something? That was

Unknown Speaker (23:56): my phone. I didn't put it on. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 0 (24:01): Me text you. I'm doing a show. Stop stupid thing. Okay. Continue.

Speaker 0 (24:09): I was trying to get onto our our our YouTube channel while we were on the show and it wasn't giving me an option to get onto it. I'm like, why is it doing that? It was weird. I guess been weird little funky things with the with the Internet the last couple days. Well This morning, it

Speaker 1 (24:28): was it was super, super slow. And then Riverside has been doing a bunch of updates, so I think they're working out bugs as well. They still haven't provided us with the layout that we like to look at when we're Oh my god. Streaming live. Really?

Speaker 1 (24:47): I just think these things take time, man. They I gave them a shout out at the end of the last show, and one of the things I said is, you know, they keep improving their product all the time. So, you know, people out there that are worried about whether it's worth the money or not, it's totally worth the money because their customer service is outstanding. I've seen very few negative reviews and Chris and I have been with them for almost three years now and all they've ever done is improve their product.

Speaker 0 (25:17): Yep. That's true. Yeah. I love Riverside actually. It's it's legit.

Speaker 0 (25:30): Yeah. So weird how this is this is being bizarre, man.

Unknown Speaker (25:37): Are you

Speaker 0 (25:38): trying to share your screen or something? No, I just, I just, I want, I want usually I can, I can hop on to, I can hop on to, to YouTube and I can switch between like my account and the Christian Mike show account? But for some reason right now, it was only recognizing my account. And so I had in order to get into ours because I want to fix that. And I have to fix that thing, that playlist for, for number four.

Speaker 0 (26:06): I'm like, what the hell? I can't, why is it doing that? Oh, that's my OCD.

Speaker 1 (26:12): That did trigger a memory. You have two episode one nineties, I believe.

Speaker 0 (26:16): Oh, right on. Good for me. One of them

Speaker 1 (26:18): has no views, so that does you good. You can delete one. Episode one ninety. Oh, the other one has views, obviously.

Speaker 0 (26:28): That's weird. I wonder what happened there. I don't know. Could have

Speaker 1 (26:32): been my fault. I could have told him that he didn't upload it and he reuploaded it and the other one that he already had scheduled uploaded. We we've learned along the way as well.

Speaker 0 (26:40): Yeah. So the fun thing, I have to go to page four to get this, the ones that are public. That's how far I, that's how far I gotta go back, man. No, two zero six. And then see the cool thing is, is it rolls with the inside the segment.

Speaker 0 (27:09): Is that what I call them again? Inside the segment inside the podcast Inside the Yeah. Those roll with the other full length shows because of how they're set up. Oh, yeah. There's both of them.

Speaker 0 (27:25): One ninety, one ninety crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (27:27): I just saw that today. I was scrolling through the list, just seeing what the, you know, views look like in comparison to how they have been.

Unknown Speaker (27:35): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:37): Crazy. And with that said, the RSS feed goes to everywhere else. So if you don't use YouTube, I don't know many people that don't use YouTube, but if you don't, it obviously goes to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, anywhere you can get a podcast, we're pretty much at. We've just found out that we're on IMDb. Had no We

Speaker 0 (27:59): have to set that up. It is. Holy one. No, no, no. But I went in there the other day when we found that out, and I realized you can go in there and set it up and make.

Speaker 1 (28:07): Oh, customize it for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Do editings and things like that. So if you're an actor, you can claim an IMDB credit for the show unbeknownst to us, right?

Speaker 1 (28:19): We have three of them now, which is pretty Beverly, Samoa and Naco. Yeah. Billy, if you're listening, go claim your credit.

Speaker 0 (28:30): Yeah. It's what I just did this stupid thing. I see what

Speaker 1 (28:34): it's making me do. You should text him and tell him to claim his IMDB credit. I, I will. He'll love that.

Speaker 0 (28:42): Open the passkey. Come on. Use the passkey.

Speaker 1 (28:49): Yeah. Use the damn passkey. Like I don't, I

Speaker 0 (28:52): don't get what's going on in the world worldwide web right now. It's like it wasn't wanting me to sign into my, my Gmail

Speaker 1 (29:00): for some That was probably part of the Iran deal is they were allowed to start to cyber attack us.

Speaker 0 (29:09): Right? Well, because in order to get to to Canva, I have to go into my under my profile, not the not the not not the the show profile because it's different, you know, because everything kinda falls into place. Yeah, this is bizarre that that I never did a thumbnail for season four, man. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. Gets

Speaker 1 (29:36): busy, man. That's why I was making the point that this is a two person operation. Yeah. This does all the booking and meets the guests and lines all that up. I do all the editing and this is literally a farm league system

Unknown Speaker (29:52): here. Right? Farm league. Farm league.

Speaker 1 (29:55): So some things get overlooked once in a while. I get it, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I do.

Speaker 1 (30:01): Even though they shouldn't. Steele asked us how many hours a week we put into the podcast. I said it's twenty plus. I guarantee you.

Speaker 0 (30:07): Yeah. Easy. It's a hobby. Nikki calls it my hobby. I was like, it is a hobby.

Speaker 1 (30:13): Well, it's a partially paid hobby at this point. Yeah, exactly. Riverside did sponsor the studio. Yes, they did. And we will accept any other sponsor that's listening right now that will allow us to do what we do and not ask us to change that.

Speaker 1 (30:30): Right. Give us a shout out at Chris and Mike show at gmail dot com.

Speaker 0 (30:44): I'm I'm I'm making another thumbnail or making another. Oh, what do you call it? Oh, wow. Oh, that's interesting. So I bought these air tags.

Speaker 0 (31:01): Right? I'm sorry. And my phone just said, oh, It sounds, it sounds like a smoking sound when I, when I click connect. That's interesting. That was me.

Speaker 0 (31:17): That's awesome. That was me. Right on. That was interesting, man. Smoke them if you got them boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (31:27): That's the nice thing about apple is everything that you have within a 10 foot radius goes off. Like when my phone, that's what you heard was my phone going through my Mac and my iPad and my phone. Interesting. It's one thing I love about Apple, just like you just experienced, you really don't have to do anything. You just turn it on and it knows to connect.

Speaker 0 (31:50): Everything connects. We're probably boring the hell out of our listeners.

Speaker 1 (31:53): No, this is, this is our real life. So this is our real life. You're watching the update of the YouTube channel right here on the show.

Speaker 0 (32:04): If I can find the, the, the see, that's the other problem too. My canvas so deep because I've done it for so long use canvas. Got a, oh, there's I did make a, I did make a, a thumbnail for it. I just see it.

Speaker 1 (32:16): So, you know, I wouldn't blow smoke up your ass. I've used the YouTube channel myself because thank you, like of all the reasons that you described when we went through that, it's easily laid out. It's nice. Shorts, the videos, you just got to click one little button.

Speaker 0 (32:31): You know, it'd be cool because we've been getting emails that I haven't forwarded you because I just, you know, I'm humble. We've been getting people giving us feedback. Like Dan Johnson sent us a message that it was a great show. Love that you guys were there and you know, I'm like, oh, that's cool. We should figure out how we could do reviews on the website because people pull people have sent us nice things to the christian mike showgmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (33:01): Oh, to actually like post their email. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (33:06): Or just not even though not even post their email, but just post post their like, know, when when Don Dan Johnson said you guys were great, you know, it's a really a pleasure being on your show. It'd be cool to be like, okay, Diane Johnson, you know, Dan Johnson says this, you know, it was great being on the Chris and Mike show, you know? Yeah. Something like that.

Speaker 1 (33:32): Dan, if you're listening, you can actually go to the Chris and Mike show and write a review. Know what Chris is saying.

Speaker 0 (33:39): Yeah. I'm just, I just think it'd be because then we can see like, like real estate websites I can pull. I think I might be able

Speaker 1 (33:46): to make that happen with pod page. Gotcha.

Speaker 0 (33:49): Okay. Yeah. That would be cool.

Speaker 1 (33:51): I think there's a way set up a page to do exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 0 (33:55): Okay. Yeah. Think that'd yeah, I think that would be cool. Because then it's just there, you know?

Speaker 1 (34:07): Yeah. And we do get a lot of that feedback. I mean, him and I are one thing we have in common is we just do this, and we hope that you like it as well, but we're not people to say, hey, look at what we've done. The reason that I bring up YouTube is that was exciting for us. Takes something where we just got six times the amount of viewers we had in like a three week period.

Speaker 1 (34:28): And not only did they subscribe, but they consumed the content, which made me excited, you know? Yeah. We had 6,000 subscribers, we had the same amount of views. I wouldn't be saying shit. Right.

Speaker 1 (34:39): I wouldn't either. So it takes something monumental for us to get excited. And to me, that was the next level forward was wow, three weeks in a row. Had over a 100,000 views that hasn't happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:51): And I think a lot

Speaker 0 (34:52): of that has to do with who we had on the show. Sure. And once again, we've yeah, shout out. Yeah, Billy and and and Walking Dad. I think Walking Dad because of his followers and Eric Zink because of his followers that he And it's not that we're going after people that have massive followers.

Speaker 0 (35:09): We're going after people that appeal to us.

Unknown Speaker (35:11): Yeah. We didn't know they had all those followers until we

Speaker 0 (35:14): talked to them. No. Because I just I see them online and I like them, so I chase them. The extent of it. It's not like I'm purposely, you know, tracking people down.

Speaker 0 (35:26): I just like Beverly Brock. I just, I thought she was cool. I saw her somehow she came up on my thread one day Brock agency actors and I'm like, oh, she's cool. She would be a great guest and boom. She's been a guest on the show and she's opened the door to a lot of guests, which is fantastic because we help her people, you know, kind of have a better presence online.

Speaker 0 (35:53): We'll tell her about the IMB thing because that that would help her.

Unknown Speaker (35:56): She did. Also, she's one of our three.

Speaker 0 (35:58): Oh, sweet. Okay. So I

Speaker 1 (36:00): think after Nico did it, well, tagged her in that comment. Oh, Beverly, That's how I learned that we were on IMDB to begin with, and that's how humble we are. If you go to that thread, ladies and gentlemen, you'll see me say, I was today years old when I realized this was even a thing, that we were on there. And he said, yeah, all 200 and some episodes are there. Yeah, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:24): And somehow these guys can claim an acting credit for being on this show, which blew my mind, right? So since then, Sam Wah has done it and so has Beverly. So Billy, if you're listening, get on it.

Speaker 0 (36:37): Get on it. Get on it, Billy. Get on it, Billy. So that thumbnail's too big. That's the problem.

Unknown Speaker (36:45): Houston, we have a problem.

Unknown Speaker (36:46): It's just it's just too big of a thumbnail. I don't know why. That's what she said. It is what she said. I was waiting for that.

Unknown Speaker (36:54): You should have just stopped it. It's just too big. It's just it's just too big, man. It's just too big. I just don't know.

Speaker 0 (37:01): It's just too big. I just don't know. It's too big, man. Me tell you a little

Unknown Speaker (37:05): story here while you're doing

Unknown Speaker (37:06): that. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (37:07): So you see this?

Unknown Speaker (37:11): I do. What is it? Okay.

Unknown Speaker (37:16): It's a troll. What's So a there's a story behind this troll.

Unknown Speaker (37:20): Okay. I

Unknown Speaker (37:21): come home one day and there's a note on this troll and it says, Looking for a new home. Okay. It's in my mailbox. I don't who it's from because I've seen this troll before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:35): Was once sitting next to Old Steel there while we were having coffee on a Saturday or Sunday morning, and I was like, Oh, that's cool. You got a troll. And he says, yeah, I picked that up at the casino. Oh. So I get there the next weekend after he puts it in the mailbox.

Speaker 1 (37:52): I'm like, oh, did mom not like to troll? And my mom spoke up before anybody could speak up and said, no, I thought he was pretty cute. And my dad said, I I think he was bringing me some bad juju, man. So he he had to go. And I was so quiet, man.

Unknown Speaker (38:09): You're dropping your bad juju in my mailbox. I was just kidding because I don't

Unknown Speaker (38:17): you know?

Speaker 1 (38:17): I try not to believe in that kind of stuff. And I have another troll sitting here that my friend Kathy gave me. Okay. He's staring at me every day too. He's the one that we used to put on our pencils that you could like

Unknown Speaker (38:29): Oh yeah, I remember those.

Unknown Speaker (38:30): Yeah, I

Speaker 0 (38:30): got one sitting right there. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (38:32): And then she also gave me this to keep me humble and this will make you laugh.

Speaker 0 (38:36): Okay. What is it? It's a middle finger. So that's

Speaker 1 (38:44): also always pointed at me while I'm

Speaker 0 (38:46): in the studio. That's awesome. That's funny.

Unknown Speaker (38:49): No matter how cool you think you are, fuck you.

Unknown Speaker (38:51): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (38:53): Right? Which is pretty much my

Unknown Speaker (38:55): motto. That's awesome. Yeah. Was just funny.

Speaker 1 (39:01): I opened my mailbox. There was no mail. There's just this little troll saying, looking for a new home.

Unknown Speaker (39:11): YouTube thumbnail. Paste. Let's see if this worked. Paste to paste stupid thing. Woah.

Speaker 0 (39:25): I don't think that's right, but it seems too big.

Speaker 1 (39:33): Okay. So you've heard all the hubbub about all these communities not wanting these data centers, right? Because they

Speaker 0 (39:40): don't want data. Data centers are crazy, man. Right? I saved this yesterday. Check this out.

Unknown Speaker (39:45): Okay. Cool.

Speaker 1 (39:47): Every time you type and this is specific to you because you use it all the time and now I am too because of you. Every time you type a prompt into chat GPT, a data center somewhere evaporates fresh water just to stop the servers from overheating. Yep. Not metaphorically, ladies and gentlemen, physically. It's real.

Speaker 1 (40:06): Real water gone. Yep. Yep. Conversation of 20 to 50 questions consumes roughly 500 milliliters of fresh water. Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (40:17): Microsoft's water consumption spiked by 34% in a single year as AI expanded. Mhmm. These are not abstract numbers. They are leaders pulled from rivers, aquifers, and reservoirs. Yep.

Speaker 1 (40:28): By 2028, AI data centers are projected to consume over 1,000,000,000,000 liters of fresh water annually. Yep. Says you think you're using a free tool, you're paying with the planet's most critical resource. Had no idea, man.

Speaker 0 (40:45): Know. I know. I knew that.

Speaker 1 (40:47): So somehow, as I started to research this since then, the Chinese are building their data centers in the ocean. Underwater. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (40:58): But the question with that is what is that gonna, what kind of environmental impact is that going to have on our oceans? Because the heat that comes from that, right? Correct. Yeah. That's my only thing with that because I think Nikki showed me that they came up and I'm like, oh yeah, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 0 (41:18): What's that gonna do? What kind of impact is that gonna have on on our environment, which we won't know, you know, it's kinda like you don't know what what Ozempic's gonna have effect on people till fifteen years from now when when, you know, people are, you know, are just getting sick and all that kind of jazz because they used it. For a

Unknown Speaker (41:36): weight loss medicine, you mean?

Unknown Speaker (41:38): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:40): Recreationally instead of what it was intended for.

Speaker 0 (41:43): Right. Yeah. So now I'm back on the analytics. So we've we have 6,396 subscribers. It's went up 4,218 in twenty eight days.

Speaker 0 (41:54): See? We went up 282,600 views in the last twenty eight days. Our watch hours have gone up to thirteen hundred hours. I don't know they were before. But yeah, that's that's kind of crazy, man.

Speaker 0 (42:10): And I really, it comes back to, I think the content's different three to four times a day, depending on the day it drops. And then we have we have, have really good guests on, you know, which people like and, you know, I think that holds, I think that holds weight too. Think having people that are solid and Oh, for sure, man.

Speaker 1 (42:38): You know, you've said it before and I've said it before and I'll say it again. The one of the things that I had hoped that would come out of this show is that I would learn things, right? Oh, I'm a curious person by nature. And we've said several times the amount of stuff you and I have remembered from each other, learned from each other again, and then the amount of stuff we've learned that we never would have had we not met. I'm only thinking recent guests because that's all I can remember.

Speaker 1 (43:03): Like a Dan Johnson or a Walking Dead or, you know, a Beverly or, you know, these people have all who would have thought Beverly started her career at 17 years old as a band manager because she knew better than the band. Right. Those are just crazy. I love those stories, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:24): Some people are like, you know, I don't get it. I don't understand why you do it. And I understand that that's you have to like deep conversations and you have to like learning about people. There's a difference in talking about people, which is what peep most people do on a daily basis. We talk about other people.

Unknown Speaker (43:39): Right?

Unknown Speaker (43:39): Mhmm. That

Speaker 1 (43:40): drives me insane. That's small talk. Yeah. I don't care what somebody else is doing because I can't control what they do. Right.

Speaker 1 (43:48): I don't care. Mm-mm. I care about why we're here and, you know, where we're going as humanity and some days seem better than others. Absolutely. I try and be hopeful, man, because if there's no hope left, you know, if somebody's not out there hoping, then I truly believe there's no hope.

Speaker 1 (44:10): There's a certain part of how you think is what you manifest. I I do believe that. You gotta do the work, which is why the secret doesn't work. You can't just sit there and wait for whatever you want to happen to happen. You actually have to do the work too.

Unknown Speaker (44:24): That's what most people miss. Right. Agreed. Like, I tried. I thought I was gonna be over from Winfrey, but it never happened.

Unknown Speaker (44:32): Like, did you go try and start a talk show? Well, no. But the book said if I just really think about it real hard, it'll happen. Those were my favorite people. That went on for a long time.

Speaker 0 (44:42): Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Which is funny. Oh my gosh. It's why they the Google is two step verification everything.

Speaker 0 (44:53): They didn't used to do this.

Speaker 1 (44:56): You know? Well, I'm sure so many accounts got hijacked.

Speaker 0 (45:02): Oh, from the Iran thing?

Speaker 1 (45:03): No. I'm just now I'm being serious. I I think so many people attained all these viewers and, you know, then somebody would hack their account and then it was such a gotta go through all these proceedings and get your account back. That's a pain in the ass for both sides. It is for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:19): So I think that's their way of eliminating a lot of that. I'm really Chris Dunham,

Speaker 0 (45:26): I swear. Well, I just I'm what the frustrating thing is I don't I usually just can just swap between the three YouTube channels, the Chris and Mike show, the Chris, my own one, and then my my office one. And it's and for some reason, it's just it's it's not playing fair with me right now. I don't like it. So it's like, stop doing that, man.

Speaker 1 (45:49): I feel your pain. Instagram does that to me every now and then. It's just it's bizarre. My favorite one. So shout out to you meta people who gave us the meta business suite.

Speaker 1 (46:01): It's been a lot better lately, but my favorite one is when it will post to either Instagram and not Facebook or Facebook and not Instagram. And for those of you who don't care about analytics, you don't give a shit. You're like, Who cares,

Unknown Speaker (46:16): Mike? Right.

Speaker 1 (46:16): I wouldn't. But it's nice when they're tied together because you can see what's happening from both places.

Speaker 0 (46:23): Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. Did you make it work? No, it's just I'm giving up to I don't wanna I don't wanna consume my thoughts and time. Well, like, you see, it's weird.

Speaker 0 (46:37): It's like, it's like, it's like, didn't sign out of the Chris and Mike YouTube, but it's it's telling me I have to sign back in, but I didn't do that. It's weird. Bitches. Right. And then I gotta right.

Speaker 0 (46:49): It's just, it's stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Okay. So let

Speaker 1 (46:52): me pull you all the way back to how you started conversation. And this is how this podcast goes, ladies and gentlemen, and it's been this way since the beginning. So that's one thing that is near and dear to our heart. He asked me about the Widow's Bay show. Talk to me

Speaker 0 (47:04): about what you thought of it. I really liked it. I think I think. It just it kind of a kind of it sucks you in because you didn't know where it was going. It was it was you didn't understand the dynamic of it.

Speaker 0 (47:19): I'm not going to give stuff away because I'm not going

Speaker 1 (47:21): do remind you of a Stephen King kind of thing?

Speaker 0 (47:23): It did totally did. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (47:24): Absolutely. That's where

Speaker 0 (47:25): I went with it. Right. That's kind of what we kind of thought of at the beginning was it's a total Stephen King thing.

Unknown Speaker (47:32): Which I don't believe it is, but it's very

Speaker 0 (47:34): Stephen It King is. Absolutely. And Michael Rise is a great actor. I'd never heard of Michael Rise till that show.

Unknown Speaker (47:41): Me neither. Looked him up. He's fantastic in that show.

Speaker 0 (47:44): Yeah, he really is.

Speaker 1 (47:47): I'm a nervous Nelly with him.

Speaker 0 (47:50): Right. Right. But yeah, it's just a great, a great actor for sure. You know who else?

Speaker 1 (47:56): No, that's a different show. Sorry. Was about to complete two shows together. Keep going.

Speaker 0 (48:00): No, you're good. I just I was just saying to me, it just he was a he's a really good actor and it's it's. I I I just I dig the show and then that led us to the to the beast, the beast within which is him and Claire Danes. That's a really good show. So you really have to.

Speaker 1 (48:16): Oh, she's in it. I'll watch that for sure too. Because Homeland is one

Speaker 0 (48:20): of my favorite shows. Well, see I found her on on my so called life back in the day, you know, that's right. She was on that Yeah. So she's in this show. She's very stripped down.

Speaker 0 (48:30): It's she's not the cute little, you know, chick that she's known for. I don't know why. But definitely a good show. Definitely a good show. By all means, take a look.

Speaker 0 (48:46): Check it out. And one of

Speaker 1 (48:48): our recent guests, if you haven't checked out the trouble with Billy, go check that out because that first episode is hilarious.

Speaker 0 (48:56): Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (48:58): Yeah. Whoever told him he couldn't be funny should be not in the

Speaker 0 (49:02): money Really? Well, I but I think that's a lot of of of they don't want they wanna keep their their. They want to keep their actors in a box, you know? Agreed. It's a type it's a typecasting thing.

Speaker 0 (49:18): Know, you're you're going to be typecasted and because you're typecasted, that's just where you got to hang your hat. That's just where you got to stay because you're typecast and they don't want you to do other things, you know?

Unknown Speaker (49:28): Well, I think a lot people end up with a bad agent or manager too who won't let them out of that. He kind of alluded to that too where they, you know, they want to keep you where they're making money is what I'm Yeah.

Speaker 0 (49:42): Yeah. Agreed. I'm sure it was a struggle for for comedic actors like Robbie Williams just to branch off and do drama. One of his best things I think was Insomnia, the Alaskan, right? The Alaskan show and and one hour photo was great.

Unknown Speaker (49:57): Yes, you

Speaker 0 (49:58): know, then those were such a huge departure from who he was from a comedian standpoint, but it shows the depth of him, you know, Will Ferrell has done some stuff that's dramatic. Oh, there was one he did that he played a drunk. He sold off all his furniture on his front lawn.

Unknown Speaker (50:20): Oh, I remember that.

Speaker 0 (50:22): Was actually filmed in Arizona. The house was in Arizona. But yeah, so I think, I think, I I think comedians have a better range as an actor than just strictly dramatic actors because you have to go timing is such a huge thing. Everything must go, right? Everything.

Unknown Speaker (50:42): Yes. Everything must go.

Unknown Speaker (50:43): I just

Speaker 0 (50:43): look so. Yeah. But I think dramatic actors I think they're really funny. You have to because you have to improv, right? You have to you're not stuck in a box when you start out as an actor.

Speaker 0 (50:52): Well, you're doing all the things.

Speaker 1 (50:54): It reminded me of a comment and this is very it's weird, but to me, it's an a 180 degree example. So there was one night where we got done playing and the guy's constructive criticism said, you know, you're really good at playing fast, but you can't play slow. And I looked at him and said, how do you think I learned to play fast? Right? You gotta play it slow first to get the timing and the stamina and the dexterity to be able to play it up to speed.

Speaker 1 (51:25): It's like, of course I can play slow. The song demanded this lead went in that spot. Right. So to your point, I'm gonna bring this all the way back around to acting. You're gonna be a dramatic actor, you would have to cover all the genres of drama.

Speaker 1 (51:41): Right? That includes like you said, tragic comedy, actual comedy. Comedy. Comedy. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (51:51): Yeah. Everything horror sci fi. Like you have to because you don't when you when you're pursuing an acting career, you don't know what's gonna make or break you, you know, like Samuel Jackson was nothing until Pulp Fiction. If you look at his career I prior to Pulp Fiction, mean, little roles here and there, like true romance. Played a guy in the drug deal scene where Gary Old man's character kills him with a shotgun.

Speaker 0 (52:18): I mean, that was the whole

Unknown Speaker (52:19): pre Pulp Fiction Samuel L. Jackson is anything compared to the guy who's on everybody's television every day of the week now in some form or another rerun or commercial. Yep.

Speaker 0 (52:32): Yep. Absolutely. And but that and that goes that's Quentin Tarantino. That's like how young blood is young blood on a world stage now because of

Speaker 1 (52:39): Sharon Osborne. Sure. You need that person to show you how to do it. Right? Yep.

Speaker 1 (52:48): I think you just said it. That's a testament to Quentin Tarantino's directing in that he pulled these characters out of these people who never would have acted like that otherwise.

Speaker 0 (52:57): Right. There's a really, really good short with Gary Old man talking about Drexel in true romance. Okay. And lot of it was Gary Old man's idea. And Tarantino was just kind of filling him with different things he was going to do.

Speaker 0 (53:15): But that, that whole thing was, that's why Taryn, that's why, why, why Old man liked that role, that character, because it was such a departure from who Gary Old man is. It was too, you know, and you know, it's like Gary Old man and the professional. Remember that movie? Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (53:30): Right. Natalie Portman was young, like the pre Star Wars, There's that scene where he's he yells at everybody to go, you know, bring me everyone that a guy in the cops like everyone. He's like, everyone. We talked about this before. And it was he didn't tell him he was gonna go with that volume of it.

Speaker 0 (53:46): So the reaction were genuine with all the characters and all probably all the stage crew and everybody around him that was shooting the scene. It just they all got holy shit because they weren't expecting that, but that shows you the level of an actor of like, I'm going do it this way the whole time. And then when it's rolling, I'm going to do a completely opposite because I'm going get a genuine reaction. Just fuck with everybody.

Unknown Speaker (54:08): And nailed it. Yeah, just nailed it.

Speaker 0 (54:11): Yeah. Yeah. Because really he's hit. The cool thing about Tarantino's movies is there's so many character actors in them and they all can stand on their own. Oh, Right?

Speaker 0 (54:22): Like Gandalfini was in true romance. Perfect. Nailed it. Brad Pitt was in romance as a stoner smoking weed out of the the honey bear.

Unknown Speaker (54:29): But here's the crazy thing about all that.

Unknown Speaker (54:31): Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker (54:32): with that statement you just made, they could all stand on their own, which nobody can argue because they've all been leading ladies or men. Right.

Unknown Speaker (54:40): Right.

Speaker 1 (54:40): But somehow, when you put them all in the same movie, none of them stand out.

Unknown Speaker (54:44): Mm-mm. They're not None of

Speaker 1 (54:46): them are superstars. Right. John Travolta was no more important in Pulp Fiction than Samuel L. Jackson, than Gary Old man, than anybody that was in that movie, right?

Unknown Speaker (54:55): Yep. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (54:56): Yep. True. It just That's flowed, sign of a great director too in my

Speaker 0 (55:02): mind. Yeah, absolutely. -: For your Gary Gary Yeah, Gary Oldman wasn't in Pulp Fiction. That was a romance. But Samuel Jackson, Ving Rames, Bruce Willis, John Travolta, James Gandolfini, Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette.

Speaker 0 (55:19): Was it Patricia Arquette? Yeah. With the tooth. Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 0 (55:23): What's his face that Matthew fuck Brad Pitt. I said that Brad Pitt's roommate in there. He got way political. Matthew Rapaport, Matthew Rapaport, Michael Rapaport, Michael Rapaport, Michael Michael Rapaport, right? Bronson Pinshaw, Bronson Pinshaw, like I saw this thing about him.

Speaker 0 (55:44): So Perfect Strangers was the TV show he was on, but then they did the thing with Eddie Murphy and Beverly Hills Cop and his whole, his whole character, Bronson Pinshaw made that up. Like, they didn't think that shit was gonna work. That was his breakthrough roles. Because the the day after the movie dropped, he was he may he had the story. He was walking home from Ralph's and and people running up to him doing his accent and doing the banana and the banana, the tailpipe type shit.

Speaker 0 (56:13): Whatever the scene was that he did, they just captured that. Yep. That's when he knew he's like, that's when I knew something, something happened because he didn't go to the premiere, nothing. Cause he was just like this little pissant role. He's like, nobody's gonna care.

Speaker 0 (56:25): It's gonna be this little tiny little thing. Don't, you know, but that that's what turned him into a superstar. Just that weird little thing in Beverly Hills Cop. And that's what Samuel Jackson launched because of Pulp Fiction because of

Speaker 1 (56:41): his character in Pulp Fiction. Oh yeah. That character was larger than life for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (56:47): What's your wallet? It's a bad motherfucker. How am gonna lose your wallet? Because this is bad motherfucker on it and bad motherfucker. You know?

Speaker 0 (56:57): Oh, and Dexter resurrection, Uma Thurman's in it.

Unknown Speaker (57:02): Oh, okay. Well, have to go.

Speaker 0 (57:04): Yeah, which is a trip because I was like, I'll give

Unknown Speaker (57:06): it a second.

Speaker 0 (57:06): Look, I wasn't expecting that at all.

Speaker 1 (57:09): I think I watched maybe one or two episodes and I don't know. I probably got sidetracked because normally I like all those shows. I watched everything except that one.

Speaker 0 (57:17): Yeah. It's they're all in Paramount. Every one of them. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:25): But Dutton Ranch has been pretty good.

Speaker 0 (57:27): We started watching that. That was better than than what I heard about it. I Marshall's I watched ten minutes of it like, this is fucking stupid. But Dutton Ranch, I I agree with you. Dutton Ranch as it was better than than what I knew

Speaker 1 (57:39): it was gonna be because those two are great actors. Yeah. And there's There's There's nothing wrong with the Marshall's guy, but I agree with you. Yeah. He's, to me, he wasn't gonna cut it and everything I heard.

Speaker 1 (57:51): I guess if you'd like that kind of cookie cutter show, then you probably like it. But my mom and dad didn't, you didn't, so I never watched it.

Speaker 0 (58:00): Well, and Dutt and Ranch, the difference if you watch the opening credits, Taylor Sheridan has nothing to do with that aside from producing it. Not writing, he's not directing it. It's based on his characters and that's it. And he threw money at it, which I think because I originally thought it was all money grabs, Dutton Ranch, Marshall's money grab, money grab, money grab. No, he actually funded it.

Speaker 0 (58:18): Right. He just produced it. He's one of the producers, not the main, but one of them.

Unknown Speaker (58:21): And he didn't write it. I've noticed that too.

Speaker 0 (58:23): Because, because Hauser and the chick are also producers on it. Yep. And they're doing a great

Unknown Speaker (58:28): job as I thought they would do.

Speaker 0 (58:29): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For those of us, you don't realize boys and girls are producer is money. Executive executive producer puts all the money in.

Speaker 0 (58:36): Then you have all these little producers. Like if you look at the shows like friends towards the last five or six, five, four, what, what three to five seasons of that, all the friends cast members were producers because they had a hand in the cost of the show because they were making a million dollars an episode.

Unknown Speaker (58:51): That's another paycheck. Yes.

Speaker 0 (58:53): Right. So that's the whole concept behind that. So when you see the actor as a producer, that just means he's got some money. He's got some skin in the game aside from the, aside from the craft of acting.

Unknown Speaker (59:05): Which is awesome. Might as well. I think that show's good, man. It's engaged me so far.

Speaker 0 (59:11): Yeah. Where are you at? I'm all. Did you watch it all? Yeah.

Speaker 0 (59:14): We're, we're, we're, rip had to go get a job. That's where we left it off at.

Speaker 1 (59:19): Yeah. I'm kind of pissed off that I start watching these things and you gotta wait a week to watch them again. It's like, man, now I'm caught in that trap like we were in 1980 Yep.

Speaker 0 (59:29): And I'm not a big fan of Annette Benning's character in a man. I don't, I just don't buy her as, as a bad guy,

Speaker 1 (59:35): as a bad, as a bad, you know, so far it's a little shaky. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (59:39): Yeah. It's just doesn't, she doesn't, she doesn't have that presence. She doesn't have she's a bet she's in that Benning. She, I remember her from American what? Fuck.

Speaker 0 (59:51): Kevin Spacey. Oh, American Beauty. Right. That's that's to me is in that Benning. And she's married to Warren Beatty.

Speaker 0 (59:58): So, you know, I don't see I don't see her as this it just was the wrong person putting that. Sharon Stone, I think would have been a better

Speaker 1 (1:00:07): Well, need somebody and here's why you're so right. Because you need somebody that is not equal because I don't think you can find anybody that's equally as badass as Beth is. Right. But you need somebody that's going to somehow intimidate Beth and that Right. Annette Benning character is just not happening yet unless they have something really.

Speaker 0 (1:00:27): But see, don't foresee it happening. I'm with you. Annette Benning doesn't have that kind of It's a tough sell. She shouldn't have the kind of mojo. You gotta have I hate to

Speaker 1 (1:00:37): say this, but maybe she gets killed is what I'm saying. Maybe. That'd be helpful.

Speaker 0 (1:00:40): You know, helpful, helpful. Well, the other, but the other caveat that the two is, is the rip character like, like, you can't imagine rip, not just walking all over net Benning's character. Right. And so it just doesn't work. That's why Yellowstone work because Kevin Costerich commanded such a presence and had such a role and just was a figurehead of that show, you know, and then all the little people beneath him are who they are because of that dynamic.

Speaker 0 (1:01:08): So I just, I don't think Annette Benning was the right choice, but that's just me. I think it should have been somebody that already had somebody in the realms of acting that had kind of like a bad boy role, even though it was a female, like, just a badass motherfucker type thing. That's what it needed. So that's why I thought Sharon Stone because Sharon Stone basic instinct, badass, you know. Oh, she'd be perfect.

Speaker 0 (1:01:30): Right. And then she's done Western stuff before. I just, and I, when I saw it and I'm like, really? And that bidding? Come on.

Speaker 0 (1:01:37): But what are you gonna do? She was bored, you know? I guess they gave her a job, you know?

Unknown Speaker (1:01:45): We'll throw you a bone.

Speaker 0 (1:01:48): Something to you. You know? What else are gonna do? What are you doing, Annette? At least it didn't cast, you know, Roseanne Barr or something fucking stupid, you know?

Speaker 0 (1:02:00): But, you know, I know I'm we started watching Cape Fear last night.

Speaker 1 (1:02:04): I got that in my list. I haven't watched

Speaker 0 (1:02:05): So it here's the thing. Like, like the movie with Nolte and De Niro. You remember that one? The '91? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 0 (1:02:11): I've seen it 20 times. So this this is kind of like it's dragon and the the attorney is a woman. So multi characters now as a female Nikki's like, oh, they had to womanize it, you know, or whatever she said.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:27): Yeah, that sounds accurate,

Speaker 0 (1:02:29): but it's just it doesn't work to me, but we'll see. We're only one episode in, but I'm not, I'm not backflipping over it. And I tried to find out where I could watch the original Cape Fear to show Nikki the 91 version and everywhere said it was streaming. It's not streaming. I call bullshit.

Speaker 0 (1:02:43): It said it was streaming on Peacock and Netflix and Tubi. It's not on Netflix or Peacock. Some of

Unknown Speaker (1:02:47): that shit's outdated. It irritates me too. Yeah. Because I'll tell you another show that's better is the Lincoln lawyer on Netflix. We've

Unknown Speaker (1:02:54): watched it. Yeah, we've we've watched that

Speaker 1 (1:02:56): That's all better than the movie in my opinion because it's closer to the original story. Yeah. And I love that movie before people give us hate. Yeah. Oh, I did a great job.

Speaker 1 (1:03:06): I love that movie, but the actual series in my opinion is better.

Speaker 0 (1:03:10): Yeah. The unrealistic thing about the series is he should be living in a gated community or a high rise condo so nobody can fuck with him at at will. I get the view of the house. You know what I mean? But he's been he's been targeted enough now that he really should behind a gated community and or a high rise community that nobody's getting in the doorman.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:31): Well, that's just the real, that's just real life, man. If I'm getting stalked more than once, I'm out of Dodge and finding something that that it's it's you gotta, you gotta work to get to me. You're just not walking up our front door. Do do do do do do do

Unknown Speaker (1:03:43): I'd be buying acreage like, you know, me. Right.

Speaker 0 (1:03:47): Put a big old moat around it, you know, 12 foot fence barbwire. Know, there's just not enough security around him for the role of what he does. You know, I kind of I've sold houses to people that are in that kind of position, you know, they make sure they're, you can't find them tax records, you know, they're, they live, you know, an hour away from where they work, but just for the sheer purpose of that, you know, you're putting bad guys away. You don't, you don't want or you're letting bad guys go free. You're defending the bad guys.

Speaker 0 (1:04:20): You don't, you don't want people to readily know, you know, who you are and where you live and all that kind of jazz because, know, that's not going to set well with everybody.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:28): No, there's crazy people out there. That's how they got in that position to begin with.

Speaker 0 (1:04:32): Right. And so, you know all right. We're having the kids over, grandkids over because we're leaving. We gotta do the Father's Day and Tripp's birthdays Tuesday.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:46): Chris is going to be a world traveler.

Speaker 0 (1:04:48): So if I don't come back, it's because there's new triangle. How old is he? No, it's going to be three. Okay. So if I don't come back to the Bermuda Triangle is real.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:59): Please come back. And it was just saying,

Unknown Speaker (1:05:02): it's real. On a positive note, I just, you know what? I'll tell you when you come back.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:08): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:09): Now, I'm not superstitious. I actually just read when is the last time you heard about something disappearing in the Bermuda Triangles?

Speaker 0 (1:05:15): You know what? I thought about that too. The reason why you don't hear about it anymore is because there's there's it's everywhere, right? Like the internet, everything's everywhere now. And cameras are everywhere and cell phones are everywhere.

Speaker 0 (1:05:27): It's it's like once once the world became this small Are

Speaker 1 (1:05:31): you saying that they can't bullshit people anymore? Yes. I am. Absolutely. But how do you explain those things where those people, there's no explanation for it?

Speaker 1 (1:05:42): Like Government. Government. There's one story I can think of right off the top of my head that's been portrayed in every history channel documentary ever where the guy was actually a respected pilot. Right? K.

Speaker 1 (1:05:59): Yeah. I'm pretty sure he was a military pilot. K. And that dude had no other explanation other than he had a four or five hour missing missing time experience.

Speaker 0 (1:06:09): Yeah. Somebody put dopamine and drugged him up or something in flight, put an aisle pilot and just, you know, somebody got to him. I'm telling you, governments, you know that governments, governments across the world. Okay. Not just ours across the world.

Speaker 0 (1:06:23): Do stuff that nobody knows they do.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:26): Okay. A good example of what Chris just said. I just read this recently too.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:30): Okay.

Speaker 1 (1:06:31): Okay. Urban not urban myth. It's common knowledge that the CIA bought 44% of all the psilocybin that was available like right after they invented LSD, right?

Unknown Speaker (1:06:45): Right. Right.

Speaker 1 (1:06:47): That's not true. They bought all of it, right? Every bit of it. And they took it up to Canada and they started their MK Ultra up there and then they took it to San Francisco. Then you know what you said is completely true.

Speaker 1 (1:07:01): This. Yeah, There's enough conspiracies out there that are true that, you know, the ones that are made up just crack me up.

Speaker 0 (1:07:09): Well, I think about the war on drugs, the war on drugs wouldn't be a war on drugs had the president.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:12): There never was this

Speaker 0 (1:07:13): is a war on drugs, right? That was a false bullshit Bush Bush senior told the world how to make meth.

Speaker 1 (1:07:22): Well, there's a guy named Rick Ross who went to prison for selling cocaine at a level that was unprecedented. He was making like 6 and a half million dollars a month. Yeah. And he came through for through the Freedom of Information Act after he got out of prison and said in an indirect way through these contacts, he was basically selling cocaine for Ronald Reagan, for the CIA to fund the Contras and the Nicaraguan yes. The conflict we all know about.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:52): Nicaraguas and Right. Iran Pitra

Speaker 0 (1:07:56): Claiming war on drugs means you have to come up with money to support the fight of war on drugs.

Unknown Speaker (1:08:01): So they did it through

Speaker 0 (1:08:01): black budget money. Right. If there's no if there's no war on terror, then you can't create a budget to fight war on terror. If there's no follow me? You you just you just can't.

Speaker 0 (1:08:13): So you have to have this to get that. And and, you know, the governments do all kinds of things all over the world that that we don't know. The aliens. Right? I think it's it's rest assured not everybody believes or has some type of understanding that aliens do exist and that we in America have had evidence of that since, you know, the twenties and thirties.

Speaker 0 (1:08:38): But it wasn't until we got so saturated with the Internet and you could go on and look up everything. You can look up everything, right? Everything. You want to look up ISIS beheading somebody type in ISIS beheading somebody. You want to look up Britney Spears having sex.

Speaker 0 (1:08:53): Do you look up Britney Spears having sex? I mean, there's there's nothing in between anymore. There's nothing you can't reach outside of a keyboard. And if you know how to get to the dark web, there's really nothing you can ever not reach by just having access to a keyboard. So I think it's completely desensitized the entire world, at least those that have access to this stuff.

Speaker 0 (1:09:12): Cause I know like some China and Russia may not have access to things that we have access to. But when you have access to all of that now at your fingertips, it desensitizes you. So then is our aliens really bad? They're not going to fuck with me. I'm going to mess with you.

Speaker 0 (1:09:29): Now, the people in the, in the history that like the people up in Northern, Northern Arizona, the White Mountains that were abducted by aliens, I totally believe that happened. And I'm sure that happened more than I used to.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:41): Less and less. Okay. And here's why. So now I've kind of lumped aliens in with God. Right?

Unknown Speaker (1:09:46): Okay.

Speaker 1 (1:09:47): Yeah. I leave it like the potential's there. I'm not gonna deny anybody the right to believe in what are the whatever they believe in, but

Speaker 0 (1:09:55): Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (1:09:55): I think with my new after I went through my change, you know, and I just became a different person, right? Started looking at things analytically. It's like, I firmly believe in everything that I can see right in front of me, right?

Unknown Speaker (1:10:09): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:10:10): Yeah. But I also. Have been to the other side, so I know that there's more than just this, right? There's something out there because I've seen it. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (1:10:19): Absolutely. The potentials there. I've never seen an alien. I've never seen a UFO. I've no, I've no people who think that they have and I can't deny them that right.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:29): Right? Yeah. Yeah. I've never personally seen a ghost, but

Unknown Speaker (1:10:32): no, I yeah, you've been felt the ghost. Me too.

Speaker 1 (1:10:36): Me too. I felt something. But somebody challenged me one time to say, are you sure that wasn't you? You know? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:44): See, mine

Speaker 0 (1:10:44): mine because yeah. See, our case, it's it's too many people in our house feel it. We thought it was gone with the tree. It's, it's, it's, it's back. It's, it's just was, it was chilling out for a while.

Speaker 0 (1:10:58): We have little, little, little nuances still to go on. Nikki got, what I think week or two ago in bed and she came out. She's like, thought you're in bed. I'm like, no, I've been in here the whole time. So, know, it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (1:11:17): Well, see, there's another example. I just know too many people that have had experiences for meat. I don't really say that nothing exists anymore. I think that's just as stupid as believing in in something that you've never seen or experienced. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:11:32): I agree. You can't just make blanket statements because everybody's living a different reality.

Speaker 0 (1:11:37): Exactly. It's a matrix, man. Yeah. You know, so if you're feeling sad, suicidal, depressed, don't do it. Go journal.

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Speaker 0 (1:12:24): So don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you choose to just vanish off the face of the earth before it was your time. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. We love you. We love that you're here.

Speaker 0 (1:12:33): You're on this journey with us. We would only

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Speaker 1 (1:12:46): And I will tell you from a personal standpoint, and I should say this more often. Yeah. Nobody wanted to live less at one point in their life than me. No one is more happy to wake up now than me. So no matter how bad I seem like I'm having a bad day, it's a good day.

Speaker 0 (1:13:00): Trust There you go. It's a great day to be alive, man. Amen, The struggles come with being alive and that's how it is. So for the Chris and Mike show, I'll be gone for the next three episodes. Mike's got my back, so be nice We'll to struggle through it.

Speaker 0 (1:13:14): Yeah. Yeah. We'll see you on the flip side. Love you, brother.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:18): Alright. Have a great vacation, man. Love you too.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:19): Thank you. Thank you. Peace. Peace.