#178 - The Complexity of Faith & Morality

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Just it just, it just blends
right in.

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That's why I was telling him
like, I'm like, last week he

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came.
I got a country music mix

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because Nikki likes country
music.

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I got a country mix where it
sandwiched between Luke Bryan

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and Dierks Bentley.
And you, you wouldn't know the

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difference, man.
Like it's that high quality of a

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song.
And I told him in the middle.

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Of our private conversation
welcome.

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YouTube and Twitchers keep going
welcome.

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YouTube and Twitchers talking
about Dave Newto and your song

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The Lord of the Devil.
If you don't know who Dave

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Noodle is, he was on our show.
Really cool guy.

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If you don't know the reason
Noodle is, how dare you?

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Yeah.
Google him right now.

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Right.
And there's no reason this guy's

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not charting right now with the
music he writes.

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It's insane that he's not
because it's just.

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He's that good of an artist.
And that good of a songwriter.

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And they're actually in the
studio today because of the show

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he has on with us where he I
found that song and I picked it

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because the name of the song,
The Lord of the Devil and have

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loved it so much that I started
poking at his management

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company.
Like you guys need to release

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their shit.
They can't release it yet

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because it's on a different
management label, whatever.

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So they're re recording it
actually today, February 17th,

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so they can re release it and
launch it.

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And I'm telling you, you heard
it here first when they first

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came on the show.
Mike and I both agreed this

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song's a hit.
Why this song is not playing on

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the radio right now is beyond me
because I have a mix.

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I don't know if you heard it
with the music going, but I have

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a mix and he's sandwiched
between Luke Bryan and Dierks

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Bentley.
And he just, it just, it flowed.

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There was no.
Yeah, he is in the middle of my

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chaos of music, which could be
Prince, one song, could be

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Michael Jackson the next, could
be Slayer the next, then it

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might be Dave Muto.
And he rolls right along when

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his song comes on, man.
And I'm not saying this because

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now he's a friend of ours.
I'm saying it because I'm a

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musician and I'm a lover of
music, and that song makes me

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want to turn the volume up like
it does.

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Tomorrow, every time,
absolutely.

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So I can't.
Wait to hear the new.

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Version So I, I my truck, I
have, I have 4600 songs on that,

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on that iPod shuffle, iPod,
whatever, fuck you call it.

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And every now and then I'll
just, I'll just hit all songs

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and hit play shuffle and I'll
see how it takes me to get

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through them all.
I have 19,000 in my main fast.

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Yeah, I had more, but then I
plug my my iPad pod, whatever it

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is thing into my Mac and I wiped
it all out of my fuck.

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So I want to cry.
It does because I had every CDI

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ever owned on that.
I had all the Alter Bridge

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bootlegs.
I had all the Creed bootlegs.

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I had all the mother love bones.
I mean every every single CD

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because I had a regular desktop.
So now that you bring that up, I

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was watching.
It used to be called Headbangers

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Ball, whatever they call it on
MTV now.

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I was, you know, just flipping
through the channels on Saturday

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night and the last time by
Badlands came on.

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Oh.
And I almost cried, dude,

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because I don't care about any
of those C DS.

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I'm glad I'm not saying that I'm
sorry I bought them.

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I'm, I can listen to that music
now because of modern

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technology, right?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
But what breaks your heart are

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the ones that you forgot about
that are now out of print, that

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you can't get anywhere.
You can't stream them on

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Spotify, Apple.
I don't know if you know the

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story behind Badlands, but Ray
Gillian, who used to sing with

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Black Sabbath, was his claim to
fame for a short time.

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He was the singer of Badlands
and he contracted AIDS and he

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didn't tell anyone and kept
going around sleeping with all

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these women.
So the record company shelved

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both of those albums, which
fucked Jakey Lee and Greg Chase

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and and Eric Singer out of
untold royalties.

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Wow.
Due to this guy's asshole

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ishness.
That's terrible, man.

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Because the families of all
those women were like, if you

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continue to profit off this,
we're going to sue you for the

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profits.
And rightfully so, right?

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Well, what they should have done
is let them continue releasing

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it and waited about, you know,
five years and then sued them

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because then they would have got
money, right?

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Right.
That's the story.

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Behind that they instantly shell
both albums.

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But I had both those CDs and if
anybody has them, crank them up.

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If you don't, if you've never
heard the Badlands music, it's

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some of the best just straight
ahead rock'n'roll I've ever

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heard in my life.
Jakey Lee was a monster still.

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11 artist that you cannot get
anywhere is Garth Brooks.

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I had every Garth Brooks that
known to man because I like

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Garth Brooks.
Streaming you mean?

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You can't.
No, no, no, he's not.

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Nope.
Certain artists.

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Have taken all their music off
of streaming.

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Well, he owns it all.
He owns the rights to

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everything.
That's why.

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That's why he made the statement
in his heyday that he has, no,

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he has more money that his
grandchildren's grandchildren

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will never be able to spend.
And it's because he owns the

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rights to his music and the
production of his music and the,

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and the, the distribution of his
music.

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So you can't you, you can search
Apple iTunes for Garth Brooks.

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And I did.
I'm like, oh, sweetie, he's on

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here.
And I downloaded it and it ended

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up being a fucking cover album
tribute to him and it sucked.

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Really it?
Sucked.

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It sucked.
You can't, like you can't

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anywhere.
Nikki loves Garth Brooks, so

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that's another one of those
things.

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Like when we go dancing on
Saturday nights at Denim and

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Diamonds, when Garth Brooks
comes on, you're just on the

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dance floor because he's got
such a high tempo beat and we

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can do the crazy country swing
shit.

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That's there is no doubt that
his band and those songs, if you

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don't admit that they make you
want to move, you're you're

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either oh, just being an asshole
or you're dead.

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You know, I mean, come.
On Garth Brooks, yeah.

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He didn't sell a gazillion
records and he doesn't sell out

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everywhere.
He plays by accident, right?

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I hate when people say somebody
like that sucks.

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It's like.
Yeah, it's like Nickelback

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sucks.
Yeah, OK.

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But they sell it every time they
play and you sing along the

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entire you.
Garth Brooks could just start

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the first couple notes of the
song and stand there and

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everybody would sing it back to
me.

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The entire song, the entire
show, The entire show.

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You would.
We've seen him twice.

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We saw, We saw.
Everybody knows every word to

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every one of those songs.
There's no.

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Question Yeah, we saw him twice
when he was doing a A2 night

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shows.
He came through Phoenix and did

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two night shows.
We've cut the later show.

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He had an hour break between
shows and still played for three

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hours and still and still nailed
it.

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That's why I went back to see
Steve Miller nine more times

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after I saw him the first time,
because it was just like a big

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party.
Yeah, most of the time the crowd

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was louder than the band.
Yeah.

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Because once again, everybody
knows every word to every one of

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those.
Songs, Yep, Yep.

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We love reviews.
So Mike had sent me this thing.

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This is pretty cool.
We're going to go over this.

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It's called, it's called facts
that sound fake but are 100%

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true.
The first one which makes sense.

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Your brain cannot feel pain.
Which is why you can have brain

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surgery while you're awake.
Correct this one.

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I didn't know bananas are
berries and strawberries are

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not.
I didn't know that either.

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I'm sure I didn't know that a
time or two, but I don't

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remember when I read it.
I was like, I didn't know that.

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So is it because bananas growing
a tree and strawberries growing

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a vine?
Yep, OK, correct.

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This one's interesting.
Water can boil and freeze at the

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same time.
And only in this part of the

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country would you understand
that.

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So you can take a boiling pot of
water when it's below 0 and

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throw it in the air and it
freezes instantly.

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Dude, can you do that one day
with then film it because that

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would be cool.
The next time it's 20 below

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when?
The next time you hear me

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complain, and it probably won't
be this year, but OK, OK.

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When I'm complaining about it
being like polar like or the

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polar vortex, that's when I'll
do it.

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OK, cool.
It's got to be below 0.

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But yeah, you can take a boiling
pot of water out there and throw

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it in the air and it'll freeze
instantly.

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Yeah, maybe throw, maybe throw
some food coloring in it so you

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can see it, you know, like blue
food coloring.

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So then it goes in there and
it's blue and it's just, that

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would be like a badass.
We'll do it.

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This one's cool too, because I,
you know, skeletons like they

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purge their skin.
I did not know this at all.

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Yeah, I I don't either, but I
don't, I don't know how often

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scale snakes purge their skin,
but you know how they do that

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You find skin in the desert.
Right.

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Yeah, they molt.
Yeah, they molt like chickens

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molt too.
Like we know that because we

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have chickens.
You get a new skeleton every 10

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years.
Now what's fucked up about that

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is my skeleton should then
correct itself, right?

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You would think it would correct
that divertebrae and your

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vertebrae.
You think it would correct it

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because if it's a new skeleton
every 10 years somewhere?

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To your question, OK.
Cool.

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Our problem is not our bones,
it's the discs between our bones

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that used to be fluid that kept
those bones from touching each

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other.
Right.

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So our bones, right now we're
saying, Chris Dunham, I am not

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your problem.
That.

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Stupid fluid, that little pillow
like thing that keeps the bones

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from touching each other.
Yeah.

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Yours and mine and my mom's is
gone.

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My socks.
That's the pain.

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Is your bone on bone?
Yeah, now I've.

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Heard snakes typically shed
their skin about four to 12

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times per year, Sir.
Oh, damn.

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OK.
And so we get new skeletons

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every 10 years.
And I've heard before that your

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brain evolves every seven years
up to the age of 28.

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I don't know if that's true or
not, but that's something I've

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I've, I've.
Your frontal cortex is not fully

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formed until you're 25 years of
age.

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OK, there you go.
I knew it.

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Something to that effect.
I knew it.

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Yeah, I knew it's.
Something, the other thing is

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every cell in your so now I
just, that's really cool.

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So you get a new skeleton
somehow every 10 years.

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Every cell in your body
replicates every seven years.

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So theoretically, you're a brand
new person every 10 years.

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Every seven years all your cells
have replicated into new ones,

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and every 10 years your skeleton
is supposedly a new one.

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I'm still not sure that blows my
mind.

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It does.
It's very mind blowing.

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OK, so then we have this one.
I knew honey never expires.

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Now when you buy honey, you can
tell if if you can tell if they

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put something in the honey
because it hardens, but it never

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expires.
The true raw honeys just stays

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raw.
Yes, that's what I buy.

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Right.
We thought we bought that from

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this dude down the street, but
we put it in a little honey jar.

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Remember.
Remember the movie True Romance?

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Oh, absolutely.
Great.

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When Brad Pitt was smoking the
smoke, smoking the honey, the

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honey bear bong.
Yep.

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OK, so we don't know what's in
that honey bear jar, but it

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makes the honey we poured into
that solid.

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It's weird.
So I, you know, it's just

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irritating.
Do you know how?

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To.
I'm not sure about that.

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Yeah.
So you put it in a pan.

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Yeah.
And you heat it slowly until it

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come.
You just keep stirring it until

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it comes back to what the
consistency was.

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So the guy that I buy my honey
from was my buddy that I told

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you unfortunately just passed
away.

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Passed away, yeah.
He said that that's how that is

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when they scrape it off the
hive.

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So what you're looking at, the
bad stuff, what we consider the

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bad stuff is what it looks like
to the beekeeper before they

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make it look like it does.
They heat it just like I just

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told you to, which is what he
told me to.

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Because if you keep it long
enough and there's not enough in

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the jar, or you expose it to
different temperatures or light,

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like I keep mine in the dark,
which helps.

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How do I keep it that way?
You know, for a long time.

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But I've done the stove top
method where you you got to heat

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it slowly and you have to keep
stirring it and it'll eventually

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look just like it did the day
you got it.

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Good to know.
Yeah.

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Honey Faction.
Mike Michaels, ladies and

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gentlemen, I.
Love my honey and my coffee man.

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Yeah, I do too, man.
I do too.

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Yep, you can't.
You cannot hum while holding

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your nose.
And both of us.

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Little bit, but not really.
Your DNA can stretch to Pluto

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and back.
That fascinated me.

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That is, that is very
fascinating because.

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Pluto is a long.
Ways away.

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I want to know who figured that
out, what science sat there one

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day and was like, you know what?
You know what, dear?

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I'm going to figure out how,
how, how I can spread DNA.

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How far?
Somebody like Mark Winters brain

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was able to compute that, yeah.
Mathematical the Eiffel Tower

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grows smaller.
I'm sorry, grows taller.

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The Eiffel Tower grows taller in
the summer.

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Now why is that?
Because the metal expands.

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Oh, OK, because I know the
leaning Tower Pisa leans sinks

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every year, but I didn't know
the Eiffel Tower grows taller in

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the summer.
Now for those kids, those of you

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kids that are in the swing
lifestyle, you know the other

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definition of the Eiffel Tower,
just you know.

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That's like my front door opens
nice and easy right now.

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I'll.
I'll bail you out of this one.

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OK?
OK.

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But come summertime, it's harder
than hell to open and shut

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because it swells.
You know, being wood.

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Gotcha.
Yeah, Yeah, There you go.

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Humans glowing the go What?
Say again.

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He said wood.
I was doing my beeps and butter.

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I know I got you.
Humans glow in the dark, but too

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dim to see.
I didn't know that either.

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But we do glow in the dark.
That's interesting.

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This one I kind of knew because
you watch enough, enough medical

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dramas and TV shows and science
things your heart can beat

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outside your body.
So when they do open heart

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surgery, they've actually, I've
seen when they pick up the heart

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and it's still beating.
I, and I thought this was more,

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you blink 15 to 20 * a minute.
I, I really thought you blink a

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lot more than that.
I was surprised at that low

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number.
The only reason that I wasn't is

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because I've worn contacts for
so many years.

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Oh.
Yeah, me too.

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Oh yeah, that's right.
Well, don't you become hyper

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aware of when you're not
blinking enough?

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Can your eyes start drying out?
No I just I my age.

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Arizona sucks for contacts.
Well, that's.

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True agreed.
It's so bad for contacts.

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I I got monthly contacts and
you're supposed to wear wear a

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month and there's some pairs I
go through and we look like a

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week and I clean them.
I I'm like.

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Fuck, it's just too dry.
There's no humidity.

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I.
Remember, it sucks.

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It sucks you've been aging since
day one, which I thought you

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kind of aged since day zero.
Like as soon as you popped your

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head out you start aging.
So the only part of that this is

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how my stupid brain works.
The only part of that that I

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disagree with is you've actually
been aging since the sperm hit

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the egg.
Since conception, yeah.

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There you go, I.
It's the same set of cells that

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was in that little embryo.
Yeah, that you are today.

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Yeah, truth.
That's a fact.

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That is a fact.
That is a fact, Jack.

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That's the facts, Jack.
So this other fun thing?

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Interesting food facts.
But maybe that's what they mean

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by day #1 read that statement
maybe.

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Great.
Why?

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It's just human age aging day
one.

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OK, so we can say day one is
that conception.

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That's what I would say.
All right.

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Excuse me.
So interesting.

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Food.
Facts.

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Food this is this.
I found these interesting too,

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so nice job finding these,
Michael.

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White chocolate isn't
technically chocolate because it

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may it contains no cocoa solids.
I think Carrie might have told

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me that, but she would have been
the only one because she begs a

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lot.
Yeah, that's that's interesting.

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I didn't know this one either.
Farm raised salmon is naturally

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Gray.
It's dyed pink to make it look

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real.
I did not know that.

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So you're not eating salmon,
you're eating a grey fish.

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You're getting a grey fish that
tastes like salmon, and they

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diet to make it look like
salmon.

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True.
Wrap your head around that.

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No, I agree with that statement.
I was like, I'm not sure I yeah,

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I agree with that, yeah.
Yeah, I'm saving them as three

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for last 'cause that's more,
it's more exciting for me.

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The stickers on fruit are made
of edible paper and food grade

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glue.
And I always wondered that.

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So you can eat that sticker on
your apple.

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Yep.
I'm not going to eat the stick

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on the apple because you know
why?

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Because whoever put that stick
on the apple probably has dirty

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hand, which is why I peel that
shit off and wash the apple.

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So can I put your mind at ease?
Yes, please.

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No human ever touched that
sticker.

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It was really no, it was a
machine at high speed just going

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think, think, think, think,
think, think, think, think,

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think.
Oh, wait, OK, I stand corrected.

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Still not eating a sticker, but
I don't think you have to worry

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about somebody putting a.
Greasy pause on it.

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I may take the sticker off my
next apple and put it on my

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tongue and see if it's acts like
nutmeg, which is a hallucinogen

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that if you eat more than two
teaspoons full at once you're

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going to go tripping.
But from what I read in the

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comments, don't do it because
apparently it'll give you the

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worst headache you've ever had
in your life.

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So I don't think that's.
Where do you really want to brag

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about?
Hey man, I'm tripping on nutmeg.

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I the only thing I can say is
your breath would smell

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incredible.
You know what would be funny is

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if liquid sin or listen to your
sin was based on a nutmeg trip

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and I just never told you that.
I think that should be the new

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story.
Just make it up.

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And then the one I say for last
because I think this is

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fascinating, peanut butter can
be turned into diamonds under

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high pressure, Tory high
pressure laboratory settings.

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OK, so I wonder now that you say
that, and I've heard it for the

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third time.
Mm.

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Hmm, is that how we're making
lab grown diamonds?

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It's quite.
Possible.

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Are we just sacrificing peanut
butter at an alarming rate?

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It's quite possible.
Now does that mean it has to be

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like jiffy or can it be the
powder peanut butter because I

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have the PB supplement.
PB powder.

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Does crunchy make a better
diamond than smooth?

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Right.
Maybe.

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Maybe Crunchy has more.
You know, we should get Nate

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Palmer back on the the
nutritionist because he's the

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one that told us that that
peanut butter is actually not

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protein, it's fat.
Yes.

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And we could blow his mind.
Hey, Nate, if you're out there,

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peanut butter can be made into a
diamond.

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So if you eat peanut butter,
does that mean you're shitting

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diamonds?
Sorry.

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No, don't ever be sorry.
I.

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Had to go there.
Oh here, read this one.

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This is great.
OK.

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Why he's sending me that?
Boys and girls, we have said

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almost 21,000 views on Instagram
in the last 30 days.

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So thank you very much for that.
25,000 on Facebook, so that's

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50,000 between the two.
Thank you very much.

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That's awesome.
I wonder what I wonder what Tik

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Tok's doing because I haven't
been.

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I just post on TikTok.
I don't.

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I don't actually go look at it.
I go nothing.

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Check out what you've been
posting but.

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It's consistently, yeah.
It's moving up there.

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It takes time just like.
Yeah, whatever you sent me, it

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hasn't come through yet.
Speaking of which, we're on

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Instagram.
We could use some help there.

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We are on Instagram.
And you people seem to.

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Instagram Instagram Instagram
has had some nice stuff lately

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man.
Nice numbers popping.

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Yeah, the 489 followers we have
there, they're hyper loyal.

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So you guys rock?
Yeah, I'm going on their

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Instagram.
I'm going to go check out the

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Instagram right now.
Oh, come on.

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I think one of the Mark Winters
was right around 7000 views.

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People like that one.
Of the winter.

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I can't wait to have him back.
Dude, that dude was so.

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Well, people didn't know what a
polyglot was, just like you and

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I did, and that really attracted
a lot of attention.

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It attracted a ton of people,
man.

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It attracted a ton of.
People.

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As soon as I saw that short, I
was like, Oh yeah, everybody

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needs to know what this is.
I had no idea there was 1

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naysayer.
We like to call out the

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naysayers on TikTok that said
potential for things that didn't

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happen in blue and things that
didn't happen in yellow.

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So.
He didn't believe that that

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happened, but you obviously
didn't listen to that episode

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because Mark Winters is a super
genius, so I'm sure his siblings

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are super geniuses as well.
Super genius, Super genius.

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The guy does calculus for fun,
so go listen to that episode.

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He's a musician now.
Fascinating guy.

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I'm with Chris, I can't wait to
talk to him again.

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00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,560
Yeah, Dad, super cool guy too.
He's going to be in Bisbee,

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Arizona, too, in March doing a
concert with positive eyes.

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And I was like, oh Mark, I guess
it's time to go to this.

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But he's like, come down, man.
Get some positive vibes, bro.

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So there there is, there's the
Instagram page right there.

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And this is the Chris and Mike
show.

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OK, 270 posts, which is pretty
cool.

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I'm following it.
So I can't see the back end data

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like Mike can.
But there's, oh, wait, right

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there.
Yeah, there's all the stuff.

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Where's the polyglot guy?
Where's the polyglot guy?

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Matt Farrell, funny guy.
Just had him on.

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I told I told Nikki this story.
Matt.

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About him and his wife and, you
know, date night in a hotel and

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00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,760
so Apache.
Because we like to talk about

455
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,200
our guests like that, I'm going
to give Matt a huge compliment

456
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,360
that I gave him to a guy I work
with today.

457
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,880
I am super, I am way more
critical of comedians than I am

458
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,760
of even musicians.
I and the way that I figured

459
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,760
this out as I was looking for a
good comedy stand up on Netflix

460
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200
the other day and I went through
three of them.

461
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960
I made it 3 1/2 minutes into the
first guy.

462
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840
I made it 5 minutes into the
second guy, and I made it 2

463
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,840
minutes into the third guy.
I am You Better Be funny and

464
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:56,440
Matt is a super funny guy.
It's his timing and his delivery

465
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,600
for sure, but it's also the way
he tells the story.

466
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,080
Storytelling.
Yes.

467
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,520
Yeah, yeah.
You have to do it without being

468
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,120
vulgar.
And somehow he can tell those

469
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,920
stories without offending
people, right?

470
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,000
Yeah, Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

471
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,040
Yeah, I've always thought about
about comedy.

472
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,240
Because you you would have made
a job stand up comic.

473
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,640
For some of the jobs I have like
like I was thinking about this

474
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,800
one.
So my first one, I worked at the

475
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,840
Mark Center, OK, which is, is a
place where you have people that

476
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,920
are our age that are mentally,
we called them mentally

477
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,480
handicapped.
I know it's not politically

478
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,680
correct.
We called them our clients,

479
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,560
right?
But they were, you know, 40

480
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,000
plus.
Years old we called them at the

481
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,560
time though for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

482
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,960
Mentally they were seven years
old.

483
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,000
OK, First introduction to this,
this job, I show up 7:00 in the

484
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040
morning and the vans are coming
in.

485
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,600
All the group humps had Astro
vans.

486
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,720
So this Astro van pulls up
Chris.

487
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,120
They they say, Chris, that's
your group home.

488
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,520
I'm like, OK, so I go open the
door.

489
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,000
First time I meet these four
adults, right?

490
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,280
And I'd probably say their name,
Chris.

491
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,000
I won't say the last name.
So, so Brady no longer with us.

492
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,520
So he gets out of the van, you
know, kind of a kind of a kind

493
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,680
of a big, big guy, like a like,
but not tall like there's always

494
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,120
disheveled no matter what you
did.

495
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,160
He always had a shoe untied.
He always just had chaos about

496
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,320
him.
But Super Bowl lovable teddy

497
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,400
bear until that moment you know
that he's not like I saw this

498
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520
this dude RIP out of a water
heater from the ground in the

499
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,520
rec room.
Like legit put his hands around

500
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,080
this water heating lifted it up.
He's pissed.

501
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,280
OK, so it was Brady fun loving,
loved stuck in seven-year old

502
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,680
mindset, loved everything
Disneyland, everything Jack and

503
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,440
the Beanstalk.
I would do his voice, but I

504
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,600
won't because that that's it was
I could do his voice out of

505
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,920
love, but I won't do his voice
on this.

506
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Rick, super nice guy, about 6-6,
lanky, thin.

507
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,400
His father was a football coach,
salt of the earth family, like

508
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,040
the Super, super nice family.
His mom came picked him up every

509
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,960
Sunday.
He passed away during my tenure

510
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,240
there too, which was a drag.
He had a heart attack and passed

511
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Mike.
We had this guy named Jesse, but

512
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,720
then he was he he had some
issues.

513
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,600
We couldn't keep him.
So he had this guy Mike and Mike

514
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,760
was kind of a short, thin guy
that that was a little bit of a

515
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,080
hoarder and loved smoking his
cigarettes.

516
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,040
And that was that was his thing.
He'd had this big kind of Circle

517
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960
K coffee mug type.
What are you trying to say

518
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,000
thing?
And he was he smoked cigarettes,

519
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,120
right?
That was his thing, you know,

520
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
and then and then I'm going to
say Wes.

521
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:30,680
So, so Wes, redhead beard, first
introduction, first day I, I

522
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,200
roll up van comes up blue mini
blue Astro van Brady comes out.

523
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,680
Hey, you know, engaged, you
know, cool.

524
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,280
OK, you're Kristen.
I'm like I'm Kristen.

525
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,600
I'm, you know, Rick comes out
really loud, boisterous in your

526
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720
face talking, you know, excited.
Yeah, yeah, I'll just go inside.

527
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,080
So he goes inside, you know,
Mike comes out.

528
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,080
How you doing?
How you doing?

529
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,880
You know, really just mellow
like how you doing, man?

530
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:54,080
Trying to be cool, you know.
So Wes is in the back of this

531
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,200
Astra van.
It's it's two seats right where

532
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,280
he's in the back of the Astra
van.

533
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680
I said, come on, Wes looks at
me.

534
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Can I have my lunch box?
I'm like, well, yeah, you can

535
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,800
have your lunch box.
You just, you got to have your

536
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,600
lunch box for lunch, man.
So come on, let's go.

537
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Can I have my lunch box?
Yes, yes, Wes, you can have your

538
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,320
lunch box.
You can have your lunch box.

539
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,800
I don't know, 30 seconds go by,
he's not moving.

540
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,480
Can I have my lunch box?
Yes, you can have your lunch

541
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,280
box.
And I'm looking around.

542
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,880
There's no other staff.
So I'm like, OK, so I get in the

543
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,640
van, I get in the seat in front
of him and I, I'm like, can we

544
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,280
need to go?
You know, we need to go.

545
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
The driver of the van who was
dropping off from the group home

546
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,640
took their folders inside with
meds and stuff.

547
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,400
It was a Monday.
So you bring your meds all kind

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,920
of jazz.
So he's not anywhere around.

549
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,720
I'm in this van now with Wes and
he's, I'm, I'm sitting in the in

550
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,200
the middle row and I'm looking
at him.

551
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,360
I'm like, dude, we got to go and
he's like, come have a lunch

552
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,200
box.
I'm like, so I look over the, I

553
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
look over the seat, looking over
the seat and, and on his hand,

554
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,640
white knuckles, he's got his
lunch box.

555
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,680
It's green.
It's a green igloo lunch box.

556
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440
It's square.
He's holding his lunch box like

557
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320
this.
Can I have a lunch box?

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,160
I'm like, yes, you can have your
lunch box.

559
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,840
You have it right there.
Let's let's go.

560
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,520
And and he's not moving.
I was like, somehow my name came

561
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,640
up.
He's like, you're Chris Dunham

562
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,680
guy.
I'm I guess everything was Chris

563
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,640
Dunham guy.
He had that guy or girl, if

564
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,720
you're a girl, it'd be, it'd be
like Mama care girl, Mama care

565
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,960
girl.
OK, so I'm Chris Dunham guy.

566
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,120
And I'm like, yeah, I'm Chris
Dunham.

567
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,320
I'm Chris Dunham guy.
OK.

568
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,520
He's like, oh, you're Chris
Dunham guy.

569
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,800
And he starts laughing.
I'm like, yeah, I'm Chris Dunham

570
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,880
guy.
I said, can we get out of the

571
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240
vans, please?
We need to go inside.

572
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,400
Can I have a lunch box again?
First day in this world.

573
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,120
OK.
They weren't even going to hire

574
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,320
me because I was only 20 years
old.

575
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,200
And you had to be 21 to work
there because they wanted to be

576
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,960
a driver, and you couldn't be a
driver unless you're 21.

577
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240
But because I had experience
with the Special Olympics, they

578
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000
hired me.
Kim Stevenson, thank you.

579
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,000
So I decide I know what I'm
going to do.

580
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,960
I'm going to leave the van.
I'm going to go to the back of

581
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,080
the van, open the Astro doors,
back doors, Right.

582
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,440
And I'm going to come up behind
him and might gently kind of

583
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,520
nudge him out of the van.
OK, so that works.

584
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840
He can have my lunch box.
Yes, you can have the lunch box.

585
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,920
I need you to get out of the
van.

586
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,160
I need you to get out of the
van.

587
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,160
So he's moving him out of the
van.

588
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Finally, the morning staff
comes.

589
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,320
His name was Chris too.
He's like, what are you doing?

590
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,640
Wes?
Just get out of the van, man.

591
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800
And has the authority.
So Wes gets out of the van.

592
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,960
So the guy's like, oh, you're
Chris.

593
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,920
That's like, yeah, I'm Chris
too.

594
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,920
He's in the West.
Let's Crystal and brothers Chris

595
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Solas guy.
OK, I'm like, cool.

596
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,920
We're all guys.
We're all both the same.

597
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560
The name name, same name.
It's a beautiful thing.

598
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:35,160
Can we go inside?
So Chris, the driver, Chris the

599
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080
driver shuts the van, goes
around, drives away.

600
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,120
And as I turn around, W decides
not to follow the sidewalk,

601
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520
dedicated sidewalk to the back
entrance of the the day center,

602
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,240
we called it.
He takes off to the to the

603
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080
grassy field at the edge of the
parking lot.

604
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,600
So I'm, you know, fuck, man.
So I'm falling out there.

605
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,840
I'm like, what?
We got it this way.

606
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Shit, you not carrying his lunch
box in his hand, still asking if

607
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,080
he can have his lunch box.
I'm like, for the love of God,

608
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,360
man, you can have your lunch
box.

609
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,600
I'm not going to take your lunch
box.

610
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,640
You can have it.
I promise.

611
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
It's your lunch box.
Lunch is in four hours, man.

612
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680
It's only 8:00.
It's not time for lunch yet, but

613
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,560
you can have your lunch box.
I don't care.

614
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960
So I'm following him out to
this, to this, this grassy Knoll

615
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920
area.
And I think this, I think that

616
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,040
this guy's name, but kind of a
big, a big hefty black man that

617
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,400
you don't, if you saw him, you
know, walk in an alley like I'm,

618
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
I'm not going down this alley,
just not happening.

619
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
You could be the nicest guy in
the world, but just the way that

620
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680
you look, not going down this
alley.

621
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,120
So he comes, we're kind of we're
kind of, you know, in a football

622
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,240
when you're trying to chase down
a guy.

623
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,320
We're both walking like this to,
to, to pinpoint Wes and we both

624
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,800
get the same time.
He's like, Wes, what are you

625
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,960
doing, man?
And he says the guy's name and

626
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,200
obviously ends with guy.
And I was like, look, man, I

627
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200
said this is my first day.
I said this is the first day.

628
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440
And I, I, he wants his lunch
box.

629
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,800
This staff brilliant reaches
down, grabs a lunch box with Wes

630
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,120
and then escorts him inside.
Why I didn't think of that, I

631
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:20,080
have no idea.
We sit down in the rec room,

632
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,000
right?
We sit down, I'm on the and I

633
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,120
have to go through my little
paperwork with them and I'm

634
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440
going my stuff with Brady and
with Rick and with Mike.

635
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Wes is still holding his lunch
box.

636
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,360
He's still looking at me dead
straight in the face.

637
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Can I have my lunch box and
stuff?

638
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,680
And he starts adding stuff.
Can I have my lunch box and

639
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,320
stuff?
Can I have my lunch box and

640
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,760
stuff and stuff and stuff?
I'm reading his thing now and I

641
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,280
understand.
Oh.

642
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,160
So that's just what he does,
right?

643
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,600
He repeats himself.
Sure, he gets into a A mode in

644
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360
his brain where he just.
Asks and I'm not laughing at

645
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,920
him, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh no, but.

646
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,760
I'm.
Laughing at Chris's.

647
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,880
This is his first day.
This is the first day he was

648
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
working when he met me and he
was in the band.

649
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
This is what you were doing.
I am totally not laughing.

650
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,920
Yeah.
Oh, no, I have.

651
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920
No, it's.
I am proud of that fact that I

652
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
have never made fun of somebody
like that.

653
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,640
I would never even dream of it.
Right.

654
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Absolutely not.
Those people are some of the

655
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,680
most lovable.
They are interesting, amazing,

656
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120
amazing human beings that you
will ever meet.

657
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920
You just have to find it in
there, right?

658
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,600
And that's the.
Challenge and and true to that,

659
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,160
I.
Didn't mean to rest interrupt.

660
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Your story?
No, I was laughing.

661
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,280
I just want everybody to know I
was laughing.

662
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,960
At you.
Yeah.

663
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,200
That was the comedy part of it.
So, and, and true to point, I

664
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,840
spent 13 years at the Mark
Center.

665
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,400
I, I, I, I stayed in that
position for the first two years

666
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,760
in real estate.
I stayed at a group home for 13

667
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,320
years.
You were.

668
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,080
So good at that job man Thank
you.

669
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
I ended up because I saw.
You with them when you had the

670
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000
van and you, you would stop by
and drop something off or

671
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,920
whatever and you'd be like,
these are the boys.

672
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,920
Yeah, yeah, I ended up, I ended
up overseeing the operation of

673
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,080
five group home cycle.
I climbed that corporate ladder

674
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:07,120
and kid you not, I, I that
instance with Wes was the

675
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360
beginning of what was probably
the one of the greatest

676
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,560
friendships I ever had in my
life.

677
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Even though it was truly A1
sided friendship because he and

678
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,280
I had conversations that that
just, you can never have and be

679
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760
that vulnerable and honest with
another human being.

680
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,880
The cool thing about Wes, there
was never any, there's never any

681
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,480
hate.
There's never any, any negative

682
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,800
feedback.
It was it.

683
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,120
He would repeat what I would say
sometimes he broke my nose.

684
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920
They were moving, they were
moving group homes that we are

685
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,960
moving group homes.
And so he is a, he would hoard

686
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,080
things.
He was, his life was in disarray

687
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360
because they were moving houses
and he he didn't know how to

688
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,840
handle that.
So he had grabbed something from

689
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,920
this off at this this staff
members desk.

690
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
It was a round little snow globe
and put it in his lunch box.

691
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,080
And I saw him do it.
So I went up to him and by now

692
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280
I'm talking a year at the day
program.

693
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,560
So I he and I were tight now,
like we he would have a down

694
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,240
moment in the morning.
They would tell me, oh, he's

695
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,840
down.
And I'd open that door and and

696
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,800
his lies with his eyes would
light up.

697
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
I mean, we just.
Yeah, exactly.

698
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,040
So he, I see him put this thing,
I see him put this thing off

699
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Barbara's desk in his lunch box.
I'm like, Wes, man, you can't.

700
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
You can't take stuff.
He's got that death grip.

701
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,320
I'm like, dude, I'm going to
open your lunch box.

702
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880
I'm going to take it out.
I'm going to put it back on

703
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Barb's desk.
It's hers.

704
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440
You can't take that.
And he was, he was making a

705
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,680
noise that I never heard him
make.

706
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,240
He was kind of going not to make
fun of him.

707
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,240
But the example Sling Blade,
Billy Bob Thornton or something,

708
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,440
that kind of thing.
He had this really weird.

709
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,040
Yeah, he had this really weird
and I never experienced it

710
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,520
before, like, but I'm thinking
that I'm good.

711
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800
We're dialed in like we're we're
tight, you know.

712
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880
So one hand opens the lunch box,
the other one reaches in and

713
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,960
gets the thing and it's and I'm
looking down.

714
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640
OK, It's and I and I reach, I
grab it and then I look up.

715
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,040
He hits me like this.
Straight now.

716
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,760
Straight down breaks my nose so
I ought to make it grab my nose.

717
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480
My staff sees it and he comes to
grab and we see him.

718
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,920
I say don't extreme just sit him
down.

719
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,840
So we're sitting down, I'm
waiting, staff get me something,

720
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,920
hold my nose.
I'm bleeding.

721
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Wes is sitting in front of me
maybe 3 feet.

722
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,679
Is it wrong to hit Christian
guy?

723
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,400
Oh no, that was the first thing
he said.

724
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Yes, Wesley is wrong to hit.
Chris Dunham guy you broke my

725
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,480
nose, I broke your nose and
stuff I did.

726
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Chris Dunham guy broke your nose
and stuff.

727
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,840
I did.
I only have one nose.

728
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,520
So so he was bipolar and manic
depressive.

729
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,480
So when he get into his high
state, he would wave.

730
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,719
So Nikki hated it.
He would wave.

731
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,719
He would just come up to you
just like I'm doing this.

732
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,159
Hi, Kristen Guy.
Hi, Kristen Guy.

733
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,159
Yeah.
Hi, Kristen Guy.

734
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Hey, Kristen Guy.
You like me?

735
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,360
Do you like me now?
The coolest thing about him,

736
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,600
right?
Among other things, I got so

737
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,480
tight with him I could take.
I took him home to work.

738
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Eugene, OR twice.
We flew on a plane, I learned.

739
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,080
Now keep in mind ladies.
And gentlemen, this is a guy who

740
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
has said many times to me, and
I'm only going to interrupt you

741
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,960
for a second.
Yeah, you're fine.

742
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,520
That you have no empathy, right?
Right, I don't have empathy.

743
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,640
But you were so compassion.
That's where you're enigma.

744
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,160
You do have a lot of compassion.
I have compassion.

745
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,440
So Wes and I got so tight that
at one point time I actually was

746
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,240
going to was going to apply for
being, for being as guardian

747
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,920
because his mother had passed
and his dad was getting up in

748
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,040
age.
And his dad gave me his full

749
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,800
blessing.
I didn't end up doing it because

750
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520
all the red tape that was
involved in it, but I took him

751
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,160
to Eugene OR twice on a plane.
Now I had realized in my time

752
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,800
with him because.
This was a reason.

753
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,920
To visit his, his mom, she was
still, she was still with us.

754
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,160
I'd realized after about five
years with him that he loved

755
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,520
music.
And the reason he loved music is

756
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
he was institutionalized from
the as soon as they realized

757
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560
that he was, he was messed up
back then.

758
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,720
I think he's born in 48.
You go institution.

759
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,440
It's it's one flew over.
That's institution.

760
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,840
There's no there's no staying at
home.

761
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,400
They called you a.
Mongoloid idiot back then yes,

762
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,440
but you think that because
calling a mentally handicapped

763
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,120
was bad.
You were literally in his day.

764
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,200
You were a literally a mongoloid
idiot.

765
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,160
They disowned you from the
family and like you said, you

766
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,720
went to a place.
Yeah, you went to a place.

767
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:23,880
That was it.
That was it.

768
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,320
But because of that, music was
so ingrained into him that I

769
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,320
could turn on the radio any, any
station in the group home, and I

770
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000
mean any station.
And he would sing.

771
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,760
He knew every song that it was
ever played.

772
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,120
And back then when you played
the, when you played Cool FM, it

773
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,560
was a.
Song.

774
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,280
So he had like a photographic
memory.

775
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360
Oh my.
God, Oh yeah, the the the stuff

776
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,920
on Cool FM back then was from
the 40s and the 50s, sure.

777
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,880
The 60s was on KSLX, right, So
it was anything from the 40s up

778
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,960
he knew.
So the so the airport I'm like,

779
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,840
OK, you don't know he's special
until he talks.

780
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,640
If you looked at him walking
down the street with me, red

781
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840
hair very well kept beard trend
because I made sure once really.

782
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920
He had no outward
characteristics of being

783
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,640
handicapped.
Nope.

784
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,080
I took him to Joe's Barber Shop
in Mesa once a month.

785
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,800
Got his hair cut, got his, got
his beard trimmed up.

786
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Like like so.
We were so tight that his Barber

787
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,160
man at Joe's Barbershop thought
he was my brother.

788
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800
It's awesome.
Like I'd like probably the 6th

789
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
or 7th time I was there, he was
doing something.

790
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,680
I was like, sorry, man.
He's like, it's all good, man.

791
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,120
I can, I can, I love your
brother.

792
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,200
You come here all the time,
like, OK.

793
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,880
I never, I didn't even go there.
I just let it go because, you

794
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,080
know, I just let it go.
So the airplane in the airport,

795
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,520
I'm like, how am I going to deal
with this?

796
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,280
Because stressors and
environment.

797
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Yeah, it's a lot of people,
Walkman.

798
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,440
OK, sure.
I learned that he liked Guns and

799
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,800
Roses.
Yeah.

800
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
The problem?
We're on the airplane.

801
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,760
Picture this Yeah, I get to go
on early because of the

802
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,720
circumstances, right?
I get to go on.

803
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440
I get to, I get to go on early
because of the circumstances,

804
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,760
right?
You couldn't tell, but I still

805
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,640
got to go in early because of
the circumstances.

806
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,080
It was clearly noted on his, on
his path, on his, on his ticket

807
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
there.
I'm his, I'm, you know, I'm

808
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,520
responsible.
This is who he is.

809
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,160
I have to get on the plane 1st
and off the plane last period.

810
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,200
So we're like not first class,
we're like the second, third row

811
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,920
in the plane behind first class.
So we go.

812
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,920
We're sitting in first class.
Oh no.

813
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,720
People start loading up, you
know, loading up the plane and

814
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,680
and we're just chilling,
hanging.

815
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,280
I had all kinds of stuff like a
7 year old.

816
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,040
You have to have stuff for a 7
year old on a plane.

817
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,720
So I have all the things he
started.

818
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,440
I can see his leg starts going.
So I'm like bust out the I bust

819
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,440
out the Walkman, put the, you
know, put the chords in his

820
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,880
ears, you know, hit play Guns
and Roses, greatest hits.

821
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:11,280
OK, he doesn't start singing
until knocking on him.

822
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,640
His door comes on.
Oh no.

823
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,920
He is doing what normal people
do.

824
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,880
Back in the day when you didn't
used to wearing Airpods, you

825
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,200
sing 3.
Times as loud to hear yourself

826
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,920
through the music, yes.
So the plane is pretty much

827
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,720
boarded now and knocking on him.
His door comes on and he's

828
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,880
singing and laughing because he
has a memory of this song

829
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,680
because of his
institutionalization, his

830
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,480
institutionalized life.
So he's singing as as loud as he

831
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,360
probably can while laughing and
he has a laugh.

832
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,840
That was, that was kind of, it
was infectious, but you knew

833
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,600
there was something not right
with this guy there.

834
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040
The stewardess comes to me and
she's like, I need you to get

835
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
him to calm down.
I'm like I, I, I can't I if I

836
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,800
don't understand.
She knew.

837
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,760
No, she knew because when I
walked on the plane, they

838
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,680
understood.
Sure.

839
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,080
I had to tell them.
I had to tell them what was up

840
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,760
because I had the behaviors and
stuff.

841
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,880
You know, I'm like, I can't, I
said I, I, I can't take them

842
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,120
off.
I was like, you don't want me to

843
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,760
take those off.
Trust me, it's got to stay on.

844
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,600
And he's just let him do his
thing.

845
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,960
I turned the volume down a
little bit and I'm like, dude,

846
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,960
you got to bring it down.
Not.

847
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,640
And then of course, he starts
his repetitive speech because

848
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,720
it's, it's a stressor.
You know, don't sing us out,

849
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,320
Christina Stuff.
Don't sing us out like Wesley.

850
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Don't sing as a man.
Just kind of bring it down,

851
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,800
bring it down a little bit, you
know, But aside from that,

852
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600
nobody would have known that he
was different.

853
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,280
No one.
So he got through knocking on

854
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Heaven's door.
He didn't know the next song and

855
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,000
he stopped singing.
And then when, when that, when

856
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560
that side, you know, I flipped
his tape over and then I had, I

857
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,760
don't know, six or seven
different cassette tapes with me

858
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,160
for the whole thing.
But yeah, music, man, it, it

859
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,520
didn't matter.
Music, any, any song that come

860
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,760
on the radio, he would know.
And if he was, if he was having

861
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160
a bad day or something, I'd just
turn on the radio and, and like

862
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Mamas and Papas would come on or
Jeremiah's a bullfrog.

863
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,640
And then he would just start
singing and just thought it was

864
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,440
the greatest thing in the world
and start laughing because he

865
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,320
associated something with that
song.

866
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480
And that goes back to what we've
talked about so many times.

867
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Music is the soundtrack of our
life.

868
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:30,560
And with him to get him in and
out of an airplane and in and

869
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640
out of an airport without a
behavior, it's music.

870
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Well, to me, when I hear stories
like that, I keep catalog and

871
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,400
all this stuff in my brain, it
tells me that I'm on the right

872
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,880
track when I just feel like the
whole universe, it's a fact.

873
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,320
The whole universe is humming at
different frequencies, right?

874
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,040
We can only hear a very small
percentage of those frequencies.

875
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,960
When you have somebody like that
that is inconsolable until they

876
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:05,000
hear music, that just proves
everything that science knows

877
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,560
and doesn't know about the power
of that frequency, the

878
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,760
vibration, the energy, right?
There's so much more to all this

879
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,920
than we understand because we
can't see most of it and we

880
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,680
can't hear most of it, right?
But those people are tapping

881
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760
into something that we will.
I think you just said it earlier

882
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,640
like that was a relationship you
will never have with anyone else

883
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,280
because you couldn't have a
relationship like that with.

884
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,960
He was special in his own way,
right?

885
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,680
He's living.
He's living in his own

886
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,040
dimension, almost.
Yeah.

887
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Oh yeah, yeah.
And he was one of those.

888
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,080
He was one of those people that
that staff loved or hate him.

889
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,720
It's kind of like me.
Nikki says all the time you

890
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,360
either love Chris or hate Chris.
There's no Gray.

891
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,000
And I think that's why we bond
it, because there was no, there

892
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,960
was no grey with him.
It's a love or hate thing.

893
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,240
You either you could either deal
with his idiosyncrasies or you

894
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,240
couldn't stand them.
That's one thing that you had in

895
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:03,360
common with Scott.
He was the same way.

896
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Yeah.
You know, he rubbed people the

897
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:11,360
wrong way and they hated him.
Or you saw what we saw.

898
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,800
And there was a good side to
him, you know, it just you had

899
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
to, you had to make him
vulnerable.

900
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,760
And that was harder.
It's harder.

901
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Like I'm way more, I'm way more
outwardly vulnerable of my

902
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,440
feelings, I think, than anybody.
Rick was probably the most.

903
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Yeah, yeah.
The other fun.

904
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,960
The other fun thing about him,
excuse me, anytime we went

905
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,360
anywhere, he had to go to the
bathroom.

906
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Well.
Him and I didn't have to go to

907
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,760
the but no, he didn't have to go
to the bathroom.

908
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,680
He just had to go to the
bathroom.

909
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,280
He just he and he would, he
would and I had to go with him

910
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,120
and he would because he had this
other he one of his negative

911
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:57,080
things, he would smear shit Bo.
He would just yeah, Nope, he

912
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,520
would.
We had 24 hour staff and once,

913
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,240
once he understood I was a
consistent figure in his life,

914
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,400
that behavior kind of just
subsided.

915
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,560
But up to the point when I
started working there, because I

916
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,560
started the day program and I
ended up moving into the group

917
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
home after the first year
because I was like, I'd rather

918
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,320
do the group home stuff.
But yeah, you'd have staff would

919
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,120
would, you know, overnight
they'd hear Wesley in his room,

920
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,760
paint the walls.
But I was, you know, some weird

921
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
side effect of his stuff.
But it is what it is, you know?

922
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Yeah, that's.
That's not good.

923
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,920
No, it's not.
But you know, So changing topic

924
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,240
now, did you know in 1939 Stalin
sent a half million troops into

925
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,520
Finland, expecting the tiny
nation to fall in 12 days?

926
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Instead they met Simo Haya, a
quiet farmer standing just 5

927
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,520
feet tall, armed with an old
iron sided rifle with no

928
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,840
telescopic lens.
He moved like a ghost through

929
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,560
the frozen forest, assassinating
505 confirmed kills in 98 days

930
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,000
and earning the terrified Soviet
nickname The White Death.

931
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,880
That's fantastic for.
Three months, All that guy did

932
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,280
is pick off Russian soldiers.
Amazing.

933
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,760
That's amazing.
I read that and I I actually

934
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,800
read it twice because I was
unsure if it was a true story

935
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
the first time.
And then when it said that they

936
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,800
were confirmed kills, I just
started laughing.

937
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,640
I'm like, here's this little
Polish dude out in the middle of

938
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,760
beautiful farmland.
For three months and eight days,

939
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,520
all he did is shoot Russian
soldiers.

940
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,840
That's crazy.
And they're like, how in the

941
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,120
fuck?
Where in Where is this guy?

942
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,880
Yeah.
That's crazy.

943
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:51,440
This one's cool.
The the $62.5 trillion per gram

944
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,480
antimatter is the most expensive
material known to humankind.

945
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560
So here's a question.
If you steal the antimatter, is

946
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,240
there a black market for that?
Can you smoke it?

947
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,360
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
But but you know, is there a

948
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,720
black market for that?
Because I could, I could

949
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,840
envision somebody stealing that
morbid knowledge.

950
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Love this.
I think I knew.

951
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,760
I think I heard this one.
In 2021, Tyson Gilbert cut off

952
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,080
his penis and threw it out the
window of his car as he was

953
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,520
being chased by police.
He allegedly claimed that voices

954
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,960
on the radio told him to do so,
so he would save the world.

955
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,920
He might have been doing some
PCP.

956
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,720
Wow.
Or some wild he had to be doing

957
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:38,040
something because how do you cut
off your own penis while driving

958
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,760
down the road now?
And especially it was a stick

959
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,160
shift.
That's impressive.

960
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Just sheer talent alone.
That is impressive.

961
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Oh my gosh.
Your skills could have been

962
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,760
better served elsewhere.
Oh, Oh yeah.

963
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,120
I mean, imagine the the the I
don't.

964
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,720
I doubt it was a clean cut.
I just imagine how bad that

965
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:02,800
would hurt dude.
I no, I don't either, man.

966
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,000
I don't either because.
I'm sure he didn't have like a

967
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,720
surgical scalpel with him.
No, there's no way you have a

968
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,520
scalpel for that.
Man, and that would be bad

969
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,760
enough.
That would be that would be bad

970
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:25,280
enough for sure.
So we have finished the series

971
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
lost.
Spoiler alert, the series is

972
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,760
like 20 years old, so we're
going to, yeah, carry on.

973
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Yeah, I got to respond to this.
If you have not seen lost and

974
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,680
you don't want to know anything,
you can stop right here.

975
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:47,760
Yeah, So the, the we didn't
watch the uncut inning because

976
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,920
on, on, on the Netflix or Hulu,
there's there's an uncut

977
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,640
version.
I've never seen that either.

978
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,880
We didn't.
We didn't watch that.

979
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960
We've all seen the same thing,
right?

980
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:06,000
So I, I, I don't, I don't, I
like, I so the way I thought the

981
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:15,720
ending was, I liked, I liked the
idea of them finding their hero

982
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:25,520
type thing.
And just like, like, if you

983
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,440
haven't seen, it's hard to
explain it, but you know, when,

984
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,680
when, when they were
reconnecting with the people

985
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680
from the island, right?
I, I dug that.

986
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,320
I thought that was cool because
it was a way, it was a way that

987
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,640
that was like their heaven or
something.

988
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,520
You know, I looked at it like,
OK, this is this is their

989
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,040
heaven.
This.

990
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Is Yeah.
You know they realize they're

991
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,200
all dead, right?
I swayed, I didn't.

992
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,640
So later into it I did because I
had I had cheated and looked at

993
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,000
something in it and.
It so back in the day, people

994
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,560
describe that show as the best
show that's ever been written

995
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
with the stupidest fucking
ending ever.

996
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
I I agree with that because I
do.

997
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,640
The ending was like, here's the
church.

998
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,360
We you all built it so you could
reconnect.

999
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Like, really?
I remember I hadn't even seen it

1000
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
yet.
And I remember the backlash in

1001
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,680
the media of how pissed off
people were at the ending of

1002
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,360
that show, which is it was what
made me watch it.

1003
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,280
Later on.
I had a good friend who had seen

1004
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,240
it, you know, week by week as it
went.

1005
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:23,400
It's like, dude, you got to
watch it.

1006
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
You can watch it.
It was on Hulu at the time, I

1007
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,280
think, you know, So I got to
watch it all like you guys just

1008
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,840
did one right after the other.
And I had to agree with

1009
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,080
everybody's sentiment.
It might, it quite possibly

1010
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,280
might be the best show ever in
the history of the world with

1011
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,640
the dumbest fucking ending ever.
Yeah.

1012
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,800
I was so disappointed.
Yeah, I liked, I liked how they

1013
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:53,320
were making it out to be like
the heaven part of it, right.

1014
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,120
And then and then it just, it
was weird, like we're all in a

1015
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,000
church now.
That's a good word.

1016
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,600
It was extremely weird.
Yeah, it's like they could have

1017
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,440
did so much more with that.
As cohesive as that show was,

1018
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,560
and now that you've seen it all,
it makes total sense when I say

1019
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,200
this, It was so well put
together where there were things

1020
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160
you didn't know until way later
on.

1021
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,320
And then it seems like you just,
it would be like Jackson Pollock

1022
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,200
painting his best painting ever
and then throwing a big black

1023
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,040
streak right in the middle of
it, you know?

1024
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,960
Yeah, yeah.
Just laziness.

1025
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,720
Here's my finish.
Here's my big finish.

1026
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,880
Well, you ruined the whole
middle of the painting, Dick.

1027
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Yeah, you did it just it just it
didn't make sense to me.

1028
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,640
It it.
I'm glad to hear you say that

1029
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,960
because I thought you might have
AI didn't know what kind of take

1030
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,920
I guess you would have and I was
curious I'd I shouldn't.

1031
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Say I, but I, I during the, I
think this season, I googled it

1032
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,960
and the the Last Supper picture
came up with John Locke being

1033
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,960
the Jesus.
So, so I kind of from, from that

1034
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,960
standpoint, I thought, OK,
because crash the plane, he can

1035
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840
walk now the energy of the
island, he's the Jesus.

1036
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,320
Like he's, he's the Jesus.
He's the one that everybody sees

1037
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,720
as the Jesus because they came
back to life.

1038
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,920
So I kind of thought, well,
maybe they're dead.

1039
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,520
But because of the dynamic of
the show, I'm like, OK, well,

1040
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,080
this isn't, you know.
We had the same thought at the

1041
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,000
same.
Point like is this purgatory?

1042
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,880
Is it hell?
I had those thoughts as well.

1043
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,800
Right, because if it's hell, you
wouldn't have food, you'd be

1044
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,320
suffering, right?
You're not suffering.

1045
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,840
So it will learn more towards
the purgatory.

1046
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,280
And if you don't know purgatory,
as Catholic Catholics believe in

1047
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,240
purgatory, you're not, you're
not going to hell because

1048
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:41,400
Catholics have confession.
And so as long as you don't

1049
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,320
intentionally, right?
So as long as you don't

1050
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,160
intentionally wake up today
saying I'm going to go kill that

1051
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,160
guy because because my boss Tony
over there tells me I go whack

1052
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,880
this dude for, you know, not not
giving us the numbers, right.

1053
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,960
You know, I didn't wake up that
day to go kill the dude like I

1054
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
was ordered to do to do to do
the dude because I'm a soldier

1055
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,280
for the mafia and I had to go
take care of business.

1056
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,040
But then tomorrow I go to
confession and that's absolved,

1057
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,800
you know, so because of that,
I'm I'm going to go to

1058
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,840
purgatory.
You know, for all of my sins, I

1059
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,560
go to purgatory and I hang out
in purgatory for however long it

1060
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,880
is.
Now obviously this is all

1061
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,440
assumption because nobody just
died like when you.

1062
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,440
I love when people say this shit
out loud.

1063
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Because I'm, yeah, yeah, Nikki
and I, Nikki are going through

1064
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,040
this thing.
We're, we're blessing our, our

1065
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,720
marriage in the church.
According to the Catholics,

1066
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,280
we've not been married for 30
years, which is it's a hell of a

1067
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,240
ride for sinning for sure.
I keep telling her that I'm

1068
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,760
like, what a better way to sin
for 30 years, man.

1069
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,960
And for me, according to the
according to the Catholic

1070
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,320
religion, I get baptized.
So like everything's washed away

1071
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,400
that day.
Like I start brand spanking new.

1072
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,200
Nick has got to go to Confession
I.

1073
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Just had a conversation today.
OK, cool.

1074
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,680
So we decided we'll go to
confession together.

1075
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,280
I'm like, we got to go out of
state because I'm not going to

1076
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,880
confession where we go to church
because we don't need fathers

1077
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,600
knowing all our stuff, you know,
which is kind of funny.

1078
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,520
So, but this stuff I'm learning
and it's fascinating because I,

1079
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,000
you know, I grew up, I grew up
in a, in a Christian type type

1080
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,680
of religion.
I was, I was born Methodist into

1081
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200
a Catholic Church and was
supposedly emergency baptized as

1082
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,160
a Catholic, but nobody can find
record of that.

1083
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560
The methods didn't keep record,
but it stands to reason because

1084
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,640
I was in a Catholic Church and
because I was stuck in

1085
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,040
automatically into an incubator
for 2 1/2 months early, I was

1086
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,680
going to die.
So they baptized me, the story

1087
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,560
goes, because I was going to
die.

1088
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,880
So, but there's a record of
that.

1089
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680
So the Catholic stuff I'm
learning is it's purgatory.

1090
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,240
It's not heaven, it's not hell,
it's purgatory.

1091
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:36,720
You spend X amount of time in
purgatory.

1092
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,040
True.
For whatever you've done in this

1093
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,800
world, that has been negative.
So I'm trying to get all the

1094
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,360
stuff out of the way between now
and April 2nd because then it

1095
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,840
starts fresh, you know?
So that's Catholic.

1096
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,240
So Christianity, it's heaven or
hell.

1097
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:54,760
There's no difference.
But you and I have had the

1098
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040
conversation before that that
religion is made-up.

1099
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,280
It's a man made thing.
Because you have to, you have to

1100
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,120
inject fear in somebody.
The Bible itself has been

1101
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,160
written so many times, rewritten
so many times.

1102
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Different.
The guy's sitting on a throne,

1103
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,920
dressed like a wizard, wearing a
fucking hat.

1104
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,400
Right, right.
How much more?

1105
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,120
Ridiculous and crazy.
Could you get?

1106
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,320
Right.
Mel Gibson just came out with a

1107
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,240
thing because Mel Gibson's super
Roman Catholic and he just came

1108
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,320
out with something.
They discovered an actual.

1109
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,560
I thought he was Jewish.
No, Mel Gibson's a fucking hard

1110
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,160
die hard Roman Catholic.
That was a joke.

1111
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Dude was a joke.
I'm sorry.

1112
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,840
I misbeats the Jews, he.
Got oh, that's right, that.

1113
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,280
Was a joke.
So I'm learning more and more

1114
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,880
about him because he's very
opinionated.

1115
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,960
Like the the shit that's going
on in Hollywood with the

1116
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,800
pedophiles, Like he was calling
that shit out when they've when

1117
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,440
they've came over here after Mad
Max was filmed and he broke into

1118
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,280
the American Filming Institute
stuff.

1119
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,040
Like I was like, holy shit,
watch this stuff when you find

1120
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,920
him online.
But they found an actual image

1121
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,000
of what was believed to be
Christ.

1122
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,840
And I hate to break it to you
boys and girls, Jesus wasn't

1123
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,120
white.
Everybody thinks Jesus was

1124
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,360
white.
He's all portrayed as a white

1125
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,960
man.
He's like, I don't know what

1126
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Indian, some type of Indian.
You know, you would hate Indian,

1127
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,680
but Middle Eastern, right?
The Middle Eastern type, he

1128
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,240
would be brown, right?
Exactly.

1129
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,360
So anybody who thinks that Jesus
was white or black, I'm sorry.

1130
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,800
He Middle Eastern because that's
where.

1131
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,520
All of humanity.
Yeah.

1132
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,080
I have even worse news.
All of humanity started out as

1133
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,600
brown people because we all come
from Africa, right?

1134
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,040
White people came about because
they started moving north and

1135
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,920
there's not as much sun for us
people who live where there's

1136
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,320
winter, right?
Right.

1137
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,440
That's where white people came
from.

1138
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,840
But scientists, whether you want
to believe it or not, you can

1139
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,040
believe in your fairy tale
little world where there's

1140
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,480
always been white people, but
there have not always been white

1141
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,360
people.
I've been having this

1142
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,120
conversation a lot lately too,
because it seems like all of the

1143
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,640
sudden we're separating
ourselves again.

1144
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,680
And it's very important for
people to know, like you said, a

1145
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,040
there is no way on God's green
earth, for lack of a better

1146
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,120
term, that Jesus was a white
man.

1147
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,360
So that picture that you have in
your bedroom or your home where

1148
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960
he has long flowing hair and
he's clearly a white guy with a

1149
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,000
beard.
Yep, that was made-up by

1150
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,920
somebody in America to sell a
lot of pictures of Jesus.

1151
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,960
Yeah, and the fact that the
Bible's been rewritten so many

1152
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,840
times, and I'm not discounting
the Bible, don't freak out on

1153
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,280
me, but when we were in this,
this it was CIA class.

1154
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,680
We get Bibles, we get Bibles in
the and the Catechism Bible, OK.

1155
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,760
For God so loved the world, he
gave his only begotten Son.

1156
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,040
The version we have, they took
begotten out.

1157
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,640
I read that.
I looked at Nicki and like, you

1158
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,720
can't take Begotten out, man.
The Bible was created by 10

1159
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,760
canonized priests.
Right. 1000 years after Jesus

1160
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,440
was was born, right?
Crucified, gone.

1161
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,080
He'd been gone for 1000 years.
And then the Bible that we know

1162
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,200
and likes is the one you're
reading today.

1163
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,600
So and depending on the version.
I And that's 100% true.

1164
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,320
And that's why in my mind,
literally when this conversation

1165
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,360
comes up, if people want to know
why I'm so hardcore about my

1166
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,520
feelings when it comes to
religion, just Chris talking

1167
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,600
about the little bit of what
he's going through branched us

1168
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,800
down all these roads.
And my mind goes down so many

1169
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,560
other roads that all of a sudden
this is what I hear in my brain.

1170
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,120
Right.
Yeah.

1171
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:41,120
Yeah, None of it makes sense
because here's the conversation

1172
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,960
that I had today.
We were talking about religion,

1173
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,400
and I was talking about it with
somebody who can have the

1174
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,520
conversation like you and I are
having now.

1175
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,960
I'm not going to judge you.
You're not going to judge me.

1176
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,200
We're trying to figure out life
together, right?

1177
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,280
Yeah.
Yeah.

1178
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,840
And she simply said, I have
faith and it makes me feel

1179
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,920
better, right?
And I was quick to say, I'm not

1180
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,760
trying to change your mind.
I am literally trying to get you

1181
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,560
to see how I came from your side
of the fence to my side of the

1182
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,800
fence, right my brain, and I
probably should if you want to

1183
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,520
say that that was detrimental to
become a musician.

1184
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,760
I firmly believe that becoming a
musician made me a more

1185
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,800
analytical person to where I had
to figure shit out, right?

1186
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,800
It did.
So it just doesn't make sense to

1187
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:37,840
me that a guy could kill 17
people and on his deathbed could

1188
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,520
claim Jesus as his Lord and
savior and he goes to heaven and

1189
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,560
#2 guy lived his whole life,
built a business, was an

1190
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,240
atheist, gave millions of
dollars of charity, took 60,000

1191
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,080
a year for himself, just gave
all the rest of his money away,

1192
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,560
put kids through school, built a
hospital.

1193
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Yeah, that guy's going to hell
because he doesn't believe in in

1194
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,920
that person that I was talking
to.

1195
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,240
You could see instantly was
like, no, I don't believe that.

1196
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Yes, you do right, because the
whole.

1197
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,880
You can't have it both.
Thank you.

1198
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,400
It's the the the rule of
Christianity is accept, believe,

1199
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,560
commit.
You got to accept Jesus died for

1200
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,920
your sins on the cross.
You got to believe that and you

1201
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,920
got to commit your life to him,
whatever that looks like.

1202
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,080
You have to commit your life to
being a Christ like individual.

1203
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,680
Otherwise you're.
What do they call that?

1204
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,880
You're you're, you're a Pagan.
You're a.

1205
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Heathen.
No, there's a term in in

1206
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,160
Catholicism where they're like.
I'm I'm not there yet.

1207
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,400
OK, they're just like a Sunday
Catholic or something, you know?

1208
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,360
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1209
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,680
Sunday Catholic.
Lukewarm.

1210
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,200
Lukewarm that.
Lukewarm is the Christian side

1211
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,040
of that.
You're lukewarm.

1212
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,960
Yeah.
And what's funny, too, is the

1213
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,400
judges are typically hardcore
Christians, judging more than

1214
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,080
anybody else will. 1,000,000%.
Which is just, you know, because

1215
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,080
they're so, and we've talked
about it before, some people,

1216
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,880
like some people need direction.
They need to be told how to

1217
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,600
believe and how to pray and how
to tithe and do these things to

1218
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,800
get to heaven.
And I firmly believe that the

1219
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,440
person that I was talking to
you, not to interrupt you, but

1220
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,760
it's important for me if they're
listening to this because they

1221
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,760
listen to it a lot.
It's important for me to have

1222
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,360
them understand that their point
was this is how I believed as a

1223
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,240
little girl and this is how I
believe today, right, right,

1224
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,760
right.
I support that.

1225
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,280
I support that so much, right?
If because of what you just

1226
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,680
said, that makes you a better
person every day.

1227
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,400
Right, right.
The guilt that comes along with

1228
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,560
the stress of living that life
because now I have to live it to

1229
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,520
AT right.
I was like that from a little

1230
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,240
kid.
They told me, here's what you're

1231
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,280
going to believe.
And that was the other part of

1232
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,160
the problem is I wanted to make
my own decisions later on,

1233
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,040
right, right.
But at that time it was like,

1234
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,960
OK, here's what we believe.
And man, there's there's a lot

1235
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,360
of stress that comes along with
this because you have sin and I

1236
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,320
can and can't say and do certain
things and.

1237
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,520
So I'm going to find this thing
which is fascinating.

1238
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,720
I think this is it.
Hold on.

1239
01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:36,550
Oh, come on.
Yeah.

1240
01:01:36,550 --> 01:01:37,910
No, that's not.
Hold on.

1241
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,400
If you quote Jimmy from South
Park, come on.

1242
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,960
Well, no, because Ricky Gervais
Love him or hate him.

1243
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,440
Last comedy special on Netflix
was hilarious.

1244
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,400
I'd see.
I didn't like it, wasn't my

1245
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,800
favorite one.
No.

1246
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,920
I no.
I don't think it was my favorite

1247
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,760
one, but I thought it was good.
OK, so check this out.

1248
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160
And this is a short thing, so we
shouldn't get in trouble for it.

1249
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,000
As a God.
So everyone's technically

1250
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
agnostic.
We don't know.

1251
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,520
An agnostic atheist is someone
who doesn't know there's a God

1252
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,000
or not, as no one does.
Atheism is only rejecting the

1253
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,640
claim that there is a God.
Atheism isn't a belief system.

1254
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,120
This is atheism in a nutshell.
You say there's a God, I say can

1255
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,120
you prove that?
You say no, I say I don't

1256
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,840
believe you.
Then you believe in one God,

1257
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Ice.
There are. 3000 to choose from.

1258
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,960
So basically you deny 1 less God
than I do, you don't believe in

1259
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,520
2999 gods, and I don't believe
in just one more.

1260
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,720
I'm an agnostic atheist,
technically.

1261
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Me too.
There you go.

1262
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,920
I, I just leave it at agnostic.
I leave myself open to the

1263
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,920
possibility and here's why.
The conversation that you and I

1264
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,800
are having right now, and this
happens to Chris and I since we

1265
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,000
started this podcast, more than
we even admit on the show.

1266
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,240
I literally just had this
conversation at work today and

1267
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,640
52 minutes into this podcast, we
jumped right down that road,

1268
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,640
right?
We didn't talk about this before

1269
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,840
we came on air.
Dozer stop.

1270
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,240
My dog's in the park and a guy
walking by my window.

1271
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,960
I see the guy.
Walking by your window and had

1272
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,360
you not said that, I would have
warned you that somebody could

1273
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,320
be potentially ruining our show
here.

1274
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,560
Yep, Yep, Yep.
That's the synchronicity of the

1275
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,160
universe.
So my point is, I think it's

1276
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,360
equally as stupid.
And in the conversation I had

1277
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,080
with my friend, I said this.
I think it's equally as stupid

1278
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,960
to be an atheist, right?
Because now you're saying that

1279
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,840
there's no possibility that
there's any order to the

1280
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,960
universe that could have been
created by an intelligent

1281
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,640
design, right?
Exactly.

1282
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,000
You don't know that.
And the way that the way that I

1283
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,040
end these arguments with people
who get hostile with me, and you

1284
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,240
know how I'm good at diffusing
situations, right?

1285
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,520
The way I diffuse that situation
if somebody gets a little too

1286
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,840
aggressive is simply to say, you
don't know what happens when we

1287
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,560
die and neither do I.
And we both should be super

1288
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,640
thankful for that today, right?
You can't say I know for sure

1289
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,480
about anything.
That's why the word faith comes

1290
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,840
about, right?
And to me, it's hard for you to

1291
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,560
say that because you are a
Christian.

1292
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,360
And here's where people get
really weird.

1293
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,600
Well, we do Christianity in
America and over there in China,

1294
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,720
you know, that's where they do
the Buddhist thing.

1295
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,160
And, you know, that's the same.
They're really the same.

1296
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,000
They just don't know it.
Those are my favorite people,

1297
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:42,240
right?
No, they do Buddhism things and

1298
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,720
they don't care anything about
Christianity and I'm sure

1299
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,440
they're hyper aware of it in
2026.

1300
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,800
And let's see.
And the thing too, at the end of

1301
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,040
the day, according to we're all
descendants from Adam and Eve,

1302
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,800
right?
If you believe in that, I

1303
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,600
haven't even started it.
We are all under that tree.

1304
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,720
You, you, you, if you believe in
God, we're all under that tree,

1305
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,320
which means every single person,
regardless of race, color,

1306
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,680
religion and creed, they were
all made in the eyes of the

1307
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,880
father because that's, that's
the whole, the, the what is the

1308
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,440
father son, the father son, the
Holy Spirit.

1309
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,000
It's all one which the more I've
gone down this Catholic path,

1310
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,160
the more I see the I'm seeing
the I'm seeing the brilliance of

1311
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,800
Scott Stapp because there's
there's two different creeds in

1312
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,600
the Catholicism religion.
I don't know them off top my

1313
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,880
head.
The apostles, one of them.

1314
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,520
Right.
But the brilliance of Scott

1315
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,840
Stapp of how he, because he, I
guarantee he picked the name of

1316
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,960
the band because all the songs
that were written, he wrote

1317
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,480
lyrically at least.
Sure, for the most, for the most

1318
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,960
part, I'm sure Tremont had a
hand in some of it.

1319
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,560
But I think I think the
foundation of Creed's music was

1320
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,200
Scott and his upbringing in the
evangelical. 100.

1321
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,440
Whack A mole like like when?
I remember when they were huge.

1322
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,840
He was.
At Revival.

1323
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,120
Yeah, yeah, because his dad had
that fucking big old cross

1324
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,400
dinging down.
Oh yeah, those guys are.

1325
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,680
It wasn't this.
It wasn't this little tiny thing

1326
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,000
like.
This.

1327
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,840
No, you get into the snake
charming with them people and

1328
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,160
shit.
Yes, yeah, yes.

1329
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,880
They speak in tongues and yeah.
Oh, just yeah.

1330
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,200
So yeah, that's so reason.
I'm kind of I'm, I'm, I'm

1331
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,240
identifying and agreeing with
you on a level here, because

1332
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,360
when I went through my entire
thing growing up and then I kind

1333
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,280
of stepped away from the whole
idea of an organized religion, I

1334
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,880
went agnostic.
So people got to understand how

1335
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,320
you explained it.
Atheism, you don't believe in

1336
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,320
anything, but in a, in a sense,
you believe in something because

1337
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,280
you're believing in nothing.
Yes, agnostic.

1338
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,320
You just don't believe in one
God.

1339
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,760
You don't believe in organized
religion.

1340
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,800
You believe in something.
I believe the potential for

1341
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,920
something to be there is yes.
Right.

1342
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,680
That's agnostic.
It's like Ricky Vergirvais said,

1343
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,760
There's 3000 gods.
I'm believing in one less than

1344
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,880
you are.
But it's not that you're not so

1345
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,200
shut down and closed off you.
You don't believe in nothing

1346
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,240
agnostic is is I just don't
believe in in I don't.

1347
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,160
I looked at it as as at the time
when I when I chose that path, I

1348
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,400
didn't believe in organized
religion.

1349
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:12,320
I didn't believe in in being
forced to to be told how to

1350
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,880
live, pray, eat and sleep.
I'm sorry.

1351
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,520
You know, it's not tangible.
When I was a kid, I remember

1352
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,960
growing up how I grew up with
the evil monster in the other

1353
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,720
room.
I would pray like you wouldn't

1354
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,400
believe.
I would pray and I would ask

1355
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,800
that like legit, I had this
stupid little chair, man, that

1356
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,200
was like from the 1970s and I
would, I remembered this.

1357
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,200
It's I'm getting chills as I
tell you this, but I remember

1358
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,400
praying and just asking Jesus to
come just sit on that chair so

1359
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,240
when she comes in the room, you
can protect me.

1360
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,920
Guess what?
He never sat on a chair.

1361
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,440
He never protected me.
So for you trying to tell me

1362
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,960
that that do you have to believe
in a God that won't protect a

1363
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,480
child who's vulnerable and weak
and is about to get his ass

1364
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,960
kicked and thrown out?
Fuck you.

1365
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,840
But that Christian sitting next
to you right now is going to

1366
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,680
say, right?
But you're still here talking to

1367
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,560
us, Kristen.
And the Lord looked over you the

1368
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,920
whole way.
You just didn't, right?

1369
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,600
Right.
But but still that's.

1370
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,320
Did that help you in that moment
in time?

1371
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,440
No, because it was, it was
bullshit to me because I,

1372
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,680
because I was, so I was so
focused on I needed something.

1373
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,880
And because I was forced to go
to church as a child so she

1374
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,000
could fuck the dude that she was
fucking who was married the

1375
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,640
entire time.
That's why she was always late

1376
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,760
to pick us up from church, which
is why I stopped going to church

1377
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,399
because I was the last kid
sitting in the parking lot.

1378
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:30,680
There's all kinds of trash
there.

1379
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,640
There's all kinds of baggage,
man.

1380
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,640
Awful.
But it's it's the thing that

1381
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,800
that, oh, my mother was a
fucking whore, dude.

1382
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,920
I'll be the first one to Yep,
you don't like that.

1383
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,760
I'm sorry.
I know with just that story

1384
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,640
right there, you have no idea
what you just said.

1385
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,600
And just like, oh, I just.
I know.

1386
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,840
I know you do.
But I know that just blew me off

1387
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,120
my chair like poor kid sitting
in the parking lot at church, no

1388
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:54,600
less.
Yeah.

1389
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,720
Yeah, yeah.
Well, his mom fucking somebody.

1390
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,560
Else, yeah, why fucking a
married man for like some 20

1391
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,000
some odd years?
The greatest thing about my

1392
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,720
grandmother when she got
Alzheimer's and you know, do you

1393
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,640
have to look at the positives,
man, She let that shit fly.

1394
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,279
Well, there's where the
Christians going to say that's

1395
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:15,279
where you ended up then.
Your grandmother there was I

1396
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:18,520
know, but there was no there was
no holding back.

1397
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,520
My grandmother was the salt of
the earth, man.

1398
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,840
She was old school it there was,
I mean, she's just where I.

1399
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:29,600
Learned everything I needed to
know about life and dynamic.

1400
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,479
And what I'm trying to say this,
I don't want anybody in trouble,

1401
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,680
OK?
That's where I learned all about

1402
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:40,439
life and dynamics of yes, yes.
The the the the the most ironic

1403
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,840
part of that the the person that
she was sleeping with eventually

1404
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,800
married the guy after he left
his wife 30 years later was not

1405
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,080
Caucasian.
My grandmother, Midwest old

1406
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,880
school boy did she see.
Now my grandmother didn't have a

1407
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,200
racist bone in her body as far
as I knew, and as far as I was

1408
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400
was around her as a child and
growing into my adult years.

1409
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,520
But somewhere deep rooted, she
has some serious hate for what

1410
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,320
my mother did and how she did it
for the amount of years she did

1411
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,040
it.
And my grandmother let her know

1412
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,960
that every time she would come
visit.

1413
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,200
Because when you have
Alzheimer's, you remember things

1414
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,280
and you don't.
I would go visit my grandmother.

1415
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,400
I'd walk in the room.
Who are you, Christopher?

1416
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,920
Oh, Christopher.
Oh, what do you do, realtor?

1417
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,760
Oh, that's perfect.
You should do that.

1418
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,560
You gift a gab.
When you were five years old or

1419
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,160
whatever, you got in trouble,
and I was scolding you.

1420
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,120
And by the time you got done
explaining why you did what you

1421
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,840
did and how it was right that
you did it, I was just so tired.

1422
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,960
And I said whatever.
We'd have a conversation, she'd

1423
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,680
look away.
This is the sad part of

1424
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,720
Alzheimer's.
She'd look away, looking back at

1425
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,600
me.
Who are you, Christopher?

1426
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,360
Oh, Christopher.
Same path 20 times in an hour.

1427
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,200
The sad part of Alzheimer's.
But there would be moments where

1428
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,280
we would have fantastic
conversations about who she was

1429
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,960
and whatever we talked about.
But the dark side of Alzheimer's

1430
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,800
is you pull that shit out that
that that you never would have

1431
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,000
said because you're the type of
person you were.

1432
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,840
But now Alzheimer's gives you no
filter.

1433
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,440
Nikki's afraid if I get
Alzheimer's.

1434
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:19,000
And I don't have a filter.
She's like, your dad can't live

1435
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,120
with me.
If he gets Alzheimer's, we're

1436
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,400
going to put him in a home.
There's a lot of truth in that

1437
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,080
statement.
You know, right, But it's, but

1438
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,520
it's, but it was for us because
the, the, the violence and the

1439
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,840
betrayal and the anger and the
pain when we heard stories,

1440
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,600
because I, I heard him second
hand.

1441
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,320
My aunt would tell me, my cousin
would tell me, man, she would

1442
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,680
just shred her.
It's like to be a family on the

1443
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,480
wall.
I just thought about that man

1444
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,120
Fuck, I barely have a filter
now.

1445
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,000
You know.
It'd be ugly.

1446
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,760
But yeah, but it, it's just
it's, you know.

1447
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,720
Well, you know, the story you
told about being a little boy

1448
01:11:55,720 --> 01:12:01,000
and sitting there is it's a very
harsh thing that I say and I try

1449
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,840
not to say it a lot, but I
really feel like it's true.

1450
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:11,680
If you still are a Christian, he
is the most absentee father in

1451
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,200
the history of the universe.
Hey, man, why would why would we

1452
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:22,080
have a Saint Jude's commercial
every half hour on my television

1453
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,800
for these poor kids that have
cancer?

1454
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,200
You know, there's a lot of
things that you just can't

1455
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,840
explain.
And it it all goes back to I

1456
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,040
think that there's some kind of
order.

1457
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,160
I just think there's so much
more about what's going on

1458
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,760
around us that we don't see or
hear, you know?

1459
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:44,280
Yeah.
Because one.

1460
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,400
Go ahead.
No, I'm, I was just going to say

1461
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,040
it.
When you and I were growing up,

1462
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,640
they thought there was, you
know, 4 dimensions or whatever.

1463
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,080
Now they know there's 12 or 23
or whatever.

1464
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,280
It's like we keep evolving and
learning about the landscape

1465
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,960
around us, right?
The other, the other thing too,

1466
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,720
like when, when growing up in
the Christian Church, you, you

1467
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,360
know, everybody's, oh, rapture,
revelation, Jesus is coming

1468
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,760
back.
Well, the only time Jesus come

1469
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,440
back is, is when every human on
the planet has an opportunity to

1470
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,160
decide yes or no.
That's why you have

1471
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,200
missionaries.
That's why missionaries began

1472
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,520
because they have to get the
word.

1473
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,480
They got to spread the word to
every single person.

1474
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,640
Good.
Luck getting to that island over

1475
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,480
there by India where those
people just kill you when you

1476
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:28,560
get within 50 yards of the
shore.

1477
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,080
Where I'm going this though is,
is you have to be of age to be

1478
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,720
able to make that conscious
decision.

1479
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,280
Belief or no belief, yes or no,
right?

1480
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,880
That poses the question that you
just touched on with children,

1481
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,640
if the children, if the child
cannot make a, a determination

1482
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,040
between what's what's, what's
faith and what's not faith was

1483
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,400
do I believe or do I don't
believe?

1484
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,440
They have to be able to in their
minds to consciously make a

1485
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:56,840
decision.
Yes, I believe in Jesus.

1486
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,840
No, I don't believe in Jesus,
which has got to be, I don't

1487
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,160
know, 7-8 years old.
I think a little man 6.

1488
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,640
I think he could maybe, but he
still wouldn't fully understand,

1489
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,240
right the magnitude of that.
That I didn't understand at 13.

1490
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,960
Right.
So that's what I'm saying.

1491
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,520
I don't have to.
Think like that now.

1492
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,640
Right.
So you have the person has to be

1493
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,400
consciously able to make the
decision.

1494
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,920
Yes, I believe.
No, I don't believe.

1495
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,280
So based on what we said
earlier, 25 should be minimum,

1496
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,400
right?
That's your fully.

1497
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,080
Formed frontal cortex.
So anybody under 25, why, why,

1498
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,240
why would they get cancer and
suffer and pain and die and all

1499
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,600
that kind of shit if, if they
don't have the, the, the mindset

1500
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,120
to make that conscious decision?
To quote the church lady, could

1501
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,120
it be?
Satan.

1502
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,480
Come on, you got to give me that
one.

1503
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,160
Oh yeah, yeah.
So.

1504
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,320
You know the Pope denounced hell
not that long ago, what, 10

1505
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,560
years ago?
Because because he wants

1506
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,520
purgatory, man, it's purgatory.
All right, we're going to wrap

1507
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,680
this up.
Nicky's getting home.

1508
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,480
I.
Hear we made pee by.

1509
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:05,600
Sure, my dad made people think I
got to pee, you got to eat and.

1510
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,000
I'm starving.
Remember, boys and girls, if

1511
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,440
this episode made you feel
suicidal or depressed, it's not

1512
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:14,200
our fault you have something
putting this off.

1513
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,880
So go run and go journal, go
screaming a pillow.

1514
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,480
Go work out.
Go do something that's going to

1515
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:21,920
change your mindset.
Suicide's not the option.

1516
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,200
Too many people have done that,
been there and and it just

1517
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,840
affects the life.
You leave a hole in somebody's

1518
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,720
heart.
Don't listen to us, but listen

1519
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,120
to us.
No, yeah, text 988.

1520
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,280
Somebody's there to help you
talk off that ledge and, and,

1521
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,840
and get you get your mind right.
So you, you wake up tomorrow and

1522
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,000
it's a better day because
tomorrow is always a better day

1523
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,440
with you in it for the Christian
Mike show.

1524
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,400
I'm Christy's Mike.
Nothing but love, brother.

1525
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,680
Great conversation.
And I, I think it's important

1526
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,440
for people to understand we just
had a conversation about

1527
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:50,520
religion and nobody got heated.
So you can do it.

1528
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,080
Exactly.
Nobody got heated.

1529
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,120
Nobody.
Have a great rest of your

1530
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,680
evening my friend.
Yeah, you too, brother.

1531
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Peace.
Peace.

1532
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,800
The place where you.
Will.

1533
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:15,040
Go behind.
Your eyes take

1534
01:16:31,000 --> 01:17:00,440
a moment.
The.

1535
01:18:00,710 --> 01:18:05,560
The now you're turning come down
here.

1536
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:12,360
We haven't found solids in the
exam from fighting.

1537
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,840
Wait for the day.
Wait.

1538
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,400
It's closer out here.
But in the wind, if you ain't no

1539
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:24,360
quizzes, we're playing.
Smile you should.

1540
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:29,080
You put it on the almighty day.
You got a dream.

1541
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,800
Who in your life to keep on
going everywhere?

1542
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,640
Take your trip behind your eyes.
Feel the soul evolution now.

1543
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:51,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1544
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,120
Take a moment.
Look at you.

1545
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,600
See him fight your family.
To you more clear.

1546
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:30,960
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.

1547
01:20:08,090 --> 01:20:08,170
The.