March 4, 2026

#179 - William Chandler - Author

Join us as William Chandler discusses his journey of writing two novels, the creative process behind his vampire trilogy, and his insights into art, storytelling, and conspiracy theories. Discover how passion and persistence shape artistic success and explore intriguing topics from vampire mythology to moon landing debates.

In this inspiring conversation, William Chandler shares his journey of personal growth, spirituality, and the importance of kindness. The hosts explore topics like faith, the impact of technology on relationships, and the power of positivity in overcoming darkness.

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And we're on the show today with
William Chandler, a return

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guest, a really cool guy whose
son has the flu, Flu A, which is

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not the big fruit with, well,
flu B because flu A was last

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year.
It's it's not COVID.

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It's not in anything, you know,
government conspiracy.

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Well, maybe, but here you go.
So, William, remind our guests

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who you who you are and and why
you've decided to grace yourself

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with us again on our crazy
little show.

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That's what now 35 countries,
Mike.

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We're still stuck at 30 so. 3030
Come on people, come on.

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Welcome back, William.
Thanks for doing this again.

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We're looking for you.
Very much thanks for having me

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back new adventures.
Man, yeah.

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Yeah, so, I mean, the last time
I talked to you guys, I'd read a

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novel because I was unemployed,
right?

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And this time around I've
written a second novel because

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I'm still basically unemployed.
Oh.

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And wow.
I was hoping you'd be like, I

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got employed from the novel.
I thought that's where we were

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going.
I did too.

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That that would that would be
great.

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But no, basically I guess I'm
just going to have to turn this

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thing into a full time deal.
Well, that bummer.

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Get a right to living.
Do something you love.

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I'm sorry.
Exactly.

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So I'm hoping that I'm hoping
that the for a living part

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actually comes along with comes
along with the second book.

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Yeah, and and you know, it's
like kind of a it's a long term

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game.
I mean, most people don't make

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it overnight.
They don't even make it over the

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first six months to a year.
They've written a book now.

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I've written 2 in 10 mice.
I've always heard it's a five

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year artistic strategy, right?
You have to give it at least

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five years.
Hey, let's go with that.

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And, you know, I'll put out and
I'll put out my debut album, you

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know, 35 years after the band
form.

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So I think when it comes to the
book, we're actually like ahead

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of schedule.
If I can, if I can make it with

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that in five years, that'd be
awesome.

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But that's awesome, man.
Yeah, and, and, and it's good

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just to just to see you guys
again and and talk to you, talk

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to you live because I really
enjoyed that first experience

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and.
I really want to read your book,

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William, but I'll tell you
everybody I've shown your

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artwork to that I know would be
into that kind of stuff and just

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said, wow, that looks really
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You know, you can just see it in
their eyes just from your

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artwork.
So good.

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Great choice on that with
leading people like myself who

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love that kind of stuff.
You know, I'm into the fantasy

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kind of stuff.
So you, you have to lead them

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into it.
Like, I never got so misled.

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I think we talked about this
last time as to when I bought my

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first Molly Hatchet record.
Right, Right.

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I was expecting to hear like,
Black Sabbath and it was

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Southern rock, which I'd love
dearly, but whoa, hey.

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It wasn't what?
Yeah, I always thought that was

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kind of a misnomer with their
album covers and and the actual

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music and.
And I love that artist.

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I think it's Frank Frazetta who
did those, Yes, and but yeah, A.

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Friend who knew him personally
come to find out it's really

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cool.
My buddy Rob.

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Shout out to Rob.
Yeah, but you would think that

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you were getting like, you know,
Man O War or Sabbath or even

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something like Megadeth.
And I mean do I work school?

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It's outstanding, and the band
backed it up.

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So with your artwork, the last
time you were here, you were

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talking about writing this book,
correct?

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You weren't done with it, if I
remember right.

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So where did pick up Where you
left off, I guess, is where

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Chris was going.
For sure, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
Sweet.

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So, you know, and, and I don't
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first time, but the the entire
first book, the idea came from a

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4 minute song that I'd read.
OK, really.

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Yeah, and I just, you know, that
character kind of in the song, I

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just saw like a bigger story for
him.

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I saw a bigger kind of a bigger
existence for him.

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And eventually, you know,
finally put my fingers on the

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laptop and and knocked out the
book.

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And I think even before I was
3/4 of the way done with it, I

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realized that this story also
had more of a story.

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So I had started working out an
outline and little scenes here

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and new characters.
And before I knew it, the second

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book was written.
And I, I did kind of run into

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that kind of sophomore jinx the
same way that, you know, a band

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might do.
And you know, you have this kind

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of, you know, it, it, it seemed
to be like lightning in a bottle

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the first time.
So the second time was a little

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bit more labored a little bit
more, you know, kind of

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overthought.
And I, I was like, you know, is

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this even really any good?
And so I gave it to some people.

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And, you know, they may or may
not be biased in some instances,

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but they, I tend to value their
opinions because they seem to be

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objective.
And they read it and they're

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like, we love it.
We think this book's great.

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So that kind of made me, you
know, breathe out, relax.

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And I published the second one.
I've already got the outline for

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the third.
Well, and I think as an artist,

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we can all answer this question
independently, but yeah, you

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know when someone's being honest
with you, right?

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And you know when someone's
paying your lip service because

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they don't want to hurt your
feelings.

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Like you said, obviously this is
somebody you have a personal

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relationship with.
So I think it's pretty obvious

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when someone's just saying,
yeah, it's good, you know?

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Yeah, and, and, and these people
that I, I did let read it, they,

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they don't have any problem
usually telling me something

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that might, you know, sting a
little or hurt my feelings and,

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and.
To actually get that.

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Yeah, to to get that positive
feedback was a good jumping

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point.
I still don't think I'm anywhere

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kind of near as polished as I
need to be.

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You know, I I kind of write a
different way.

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I write in a different method.
I don't sit and lock myself away

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and write.
I just kind of write when I can.

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So see, I that's how, Yeah.
No, but that's how I was when I

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wrote, when I wrote the books.
I wrote my main, my not the

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grand scale.
Yeah, but you have to write when

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the woman strikes you.
If you force yourself to write,

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it's not going to come out the
way you want it to come out.

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And I think that goes.
For any artist, for sure.

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That's the part that people
don't understand is you can't

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just go, OK, go be a writer and
write a great book.

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Go be a great guitar player and
become the next Eddie Van Halen,

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right?
Write me the not only, not even

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that, write me the next hit
song.

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Boy, that's easy, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's probably even

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harder.
Even though this this the actual

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skill set you might not need to
be as an accomplished A musician

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or a vocalist or an
instrumentalist.

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A hit song is just has this
weird kind of chemistry to it

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that that makes it a hit song.
And you don't know it's a hit

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song when you write it like you
have no idea.

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You just write a song because it
sounds good to you and your

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bandmates, you know, So you'll
write a story that that you

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love, that you think this is the
this is a great story.

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This is going to take off.
People are going to love this.

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And then you go one or the other
way.

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It's just there's so much luck
involved with the creative

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process and especially the world
of entertainers.

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The timing has to be right in
addition to all of that, right?

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Yeah.
Definitely I, I think for, for

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me, I kind of, you know, write
the books the way that I wrote

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music, which is, you know, I
have to get off on it first.

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Like, first and foremost, I'm
writing it in my bedroom or the

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rehearsal studio for me.
Yeah.

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Not for anyone else.
And if they like it, that's just

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like the huge, the biggest kind
of cherry on top bonus that it

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could be.
And I feel the same way about

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the book.
So when I started writing the

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first one and, you know, you
know, friends and family were

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making suggestions like, you
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I'm like, that's no, I'm not
going to do that.

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That's usually when I get real
quiet and I'm like, OK, I can't

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tell anybody what I'm doing
right now because they don't

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understand, right?
Exactly I so.

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That, that actually cements it
for me, me, William, that I'm on

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the right track, right?
I know what I'm doing now

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because you're trying to poke
holes in my boat and.

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Yeah, to suggest something a
different direction.

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Yes.
Yeah, see.

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Yeah, yeah, that's it.
See, when I wrote The Legend of

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Charles E Ling, I actually
Nikki's in it because I wrote it

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with her kind of intertwined in
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So I had to have her inject her
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of the stuff I was thinking
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So it was good for me to have
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Like one of the times we were I
wrote it, we were just, we were

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driving up north for something
and I legit had my iPad out and

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I was, I was typing my note
section while she was driving

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for those two hours.
And then I was like, OK, I'm

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going to do this.
And then I would read it to her.

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So it's kind of fun dynamic of,
of her.

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I talking about my silly idea I
had years ago and then kind of,

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you know, so and she's never
read the book.

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She's like, why would I read the
book?

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I'm in it, You know what I mean?
It's like she's she listened to

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Nemesis every time we rehearse
the stuff.

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But I guarantee if we if we put
on ACD, she listened to it once

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and that would be it because she
lived it.

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So it's, people give her shit
that she's never read the book.

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She's like, but I, I, I was with
him the whole time he wrote it

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basically.
And, and it's like, I lived part

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of that life with him anyway,
you know, So it's, it's

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interesting dichotomy when you,
when you do have people that

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they think they're helping them,
they're not.

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And then you have somebody
bouncing ideas and, and sharing

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your thoughts to make it that
much better.

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So it's it's all how you
approach it, you know?

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But two, two movie scenes just
popped in my head from that

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little 30 seconds, and one was
Pee Wee Herman.

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And Pee Wee's Take Adventure.
And he was like, I don't have to

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see it, Dottie.
I lived it right.

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And the other one goes to to the
people with suggestions.

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It reminds me of the the guy in
in Amadeus.

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Oh yeah.
He's watched such a great movie

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play and he's such a, you know,
a just a brilliant prodigy.

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And the the guy I think was a
king or chancellor or someone,

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he was like, there's, there's
too many notes.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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That's one of my favorite lions,
William.

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That's a great movie too.
Tom Holst.

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Tom Holstein.
Right.

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Tom Holstein.
Tom Holstein.

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Hulstein.
Holstein.

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Great.
Yeah, great movie.

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Great actor, man.
Great actor, absolutely.

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The I think what's funny when it
comes to me like writing kind of

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different.
It's a, it's a vampire story.

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It's going to be a trilogy and,
and, and it won't, this guy's

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story won't go past the third
book.

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That's good.
Like, I'm not going to, I'm not

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going to write 10 books about
the same guy.

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Rambo 5.
You know what Rambo 7 now like.

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Yeah, yeah.
Rambo's dead man.

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Exactly.
Like there's no way.

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How do you even get out of bed?
How do you know that though,

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William?
Was that just a conscious choice

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or this is just how you know
what's going to happen?

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Did you mean for that to happen
or did it just happen naturally?

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I, I, I think that when I first
got done with the with the first

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book, I was like, I, I can kind
of see it going this much

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farther.
OK.

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And it just kind of didn't want
to stretch it out past its.

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I didn't want to have kind of a
Rambo 7 or a Rocky 7.

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He's he's fighting at 60 years
old and.

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You.
Know like Ric Flair is thinking

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about coming out for a one more
match right at 74.

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I don't.
I don't get it, but I don't.

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Either I don't either, but.
So I just kind of pieced it

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together, just kind of like bit
of connect the dots outline in

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my head of where this guy
starts.

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And this is where I see his
finish.

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And, and when people ask, you
know, why is this book

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different?
Because it's a, it's a vampire

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book.
There have been maybe millions

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of vampire novels, like, and
thousands, hundreds a day get

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published for me.
I, I, they, as you know, like

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what's in it, what makes it
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I think for me, it's what's not
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coffins and stakes through the
heart and like the, the

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perception that like every
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androgynous, you know, bisexual,
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Like that's awesome.
Like, you know, my guy, he he

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worries about his phone dying
and not being able to charge it

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because that's his only link to
what was a regular world.

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Yeah, is a phone.
And he he worries about, you

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know, where am I going to?
Where am I going to live?

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Where's, where's my next meal
going to come from?

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Like, what's you know, he's he's
got real world problems in a

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very underworld existence.
And that for his book, nothing

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else is him learning about life
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anymore.
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And it's him kind of figuring
out everything he already missed

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out on just by a chance
encounter with someone who turns

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him into this thing he just
thought was a, a, a movie myth

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or a book myth.
Yeah, Yeah.

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And and from there, then
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And then in this second book,
and I'll show you the book right

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here.
Nice.

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All right, I.
Love that cover, man.

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Yeah, yeah.
Thank you.

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Thank you.
I worked with a a guy in Italy

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to make that and oh.
No shit.

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Yeah, this dude named Mirko,
his, his, you know, his handle

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is inside the the publishing
page of the book.

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And we would just bounce ideas.
I told him what I wanted.

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I gave him a rough draft,
though.

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I mean really crappy AI put
together rough draft.

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And I was like, I need you to go
from here.

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And I gave him all the details.
He gave me one go at it.

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I was like, Nah, OK, good.
But I need this moved and this

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changed.
And until we got to the point

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where we're at and I, I loved
it.

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I think it came out great.
I probably will reach out to him

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for the third one if he's still
doing it.

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And I hope he's still doing it
by that point because I already

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know exactly what that book
cover is going to look like.

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Nice.
I knew what these ones were

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going to look like before they
before the finished product and.

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Who did those?
Can we get the book?

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Can we get the books on Amazon
or the book?

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Yes, OK, yes, So right now the
paperback version of both are on

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Amazon and the ebook version of
the first book is on Amazon.

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And then next week or March 2nd,
the paperback will go on Barnes

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and Noble.
You can also get both books at a

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company called Books by Where
the author actually gets a

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little bit more royalty if you
buy it through that, but the

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person purchasing the books has
to pay for shipping and

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handling.
Gotcha, so I'm not.

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So they end up paying more for
the book.

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Oh.
And then if they bought it

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through Amazon, Gotcha.
So I'm not going to force anyone

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to go here and buy this book
here just because it gives me a

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couple more dollars, because
really that's all it gives me is

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a couple more dollars.
I was trying to share it but for

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some reason Riverside is not
letting me share my screen.

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So it's it is on there.
You have the House of the of the

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wing God, the paperbacks 1499.
You can order it today.

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You get it, get it in two days
and then the hard cover for the

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haunting is that you?
No, I think that's just a.

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That's a different.
Williams they are.

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OK, so they they'll say there
you are.

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So House of the Black Moon,
that's yours.

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I'm sorry.
I I got the I didn't catch the

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middle initial there.
So the House of the Black Moon.

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That was the first one, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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And that's, that's a nice $5
thing on Kindle right there,

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man.
Not, not bad at all.

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And then and then you have the
paperback for 15 bucks.

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Exactly.
And so I kind of did a a little

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edit job to that first book.
And now when you're when you

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order that one, that is the
second edition of the book.

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Some people who might read the
first one and the second one,

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they might not even see the
difference and other people

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would know exactly where I fix
something because they were they

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were quick to point out, hey,
you know, you messed up right

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here.
Like you added a letter in this

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word or you forgot this word and
it's, you know, self-publishing

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that's that's going to happen.
You try to try to mitigate those

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instances when you can.
So I went ahead and corrected

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that a little bit.
There it is.

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Awesome.
Thank you for sharing that and.

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It's like, yeah, you buy, you go
write a book, man, Shut up.

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Exactly.
Well said.

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Right, but the the second book,
it takes this guy's story and if

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you thought that he was.
Am I?

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Am I sharing the first book,
William?

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No, that's the second book.
OK, I just want to make sure I'm

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sharing the right book.
Yeah, yeah, that's the second

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one.
And feel free to share the first

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one because I've been real
honest with people online and on

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social media.
What's the title of the first

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one?
House of the Black Moon.

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Or if you just type in William,
William X Chandler, then you'll

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pull up his his books exactly.
There you go.

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Now click on the click on the
book Mike and see what happens.

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So I think it'll bring there you
go.

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It brings it more up into the
screen like that.

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Right, and that should be I
think that's the Kindle version.

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Yep.
The the the paperback of the 1st

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edition is unpublished.
So if you try to buy that, it

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should give you the second
edition.

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I don't.
I don't know the the weird kind

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of insurance and outs of that
because when I go on to the

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author page and do the edits
and, and have a book published,

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it'll show me that the first
edition of the paperback is

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unpublished and it shows me the
second edition.

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So I'm hoping that that's what
it tells the person trying to

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buy it then, you know, so we'll
see.

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But if this guy thought his
world was small and got bigger

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as he moved across the American
Southwest, in the second book he

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travels way out of his comfort
zone and he hits 2 spots in

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Europe that take up basically
the entire book.

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Well, and Europe is, is is the
home of the vampires, right?

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That's where they all started.
Yeah.

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And, and, you know, depending on
your vampire historian, right,

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they'll tell you it was in this
place or No, it was in this

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place.
And, you know, of course,

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Dracula is kind of in the
Transylvania part of Romania,

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right.
And but of course, I mean, he

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wasn't, that wasn't even the
first vampire novel or a vampire

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story.
And what's funny about the

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character in my books is that,
you know, all he has to go on

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is.
You know, Dracula and Blade and

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and vampire movies that he
didn't even, he didn't realize

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that he probably would have had
to pay more attention to until

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he became one.
And then after he does become

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one, he realizes it doesn't
matter anyway because everything

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he learned in those movies isn't
true or real at all.

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Because my mythology of the
vampire is completely different,

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and it's almost like dispelling
what you think you know about

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something.
But that's why it's an

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interesting twist, right?
It's not going to go into a

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thinking, you know, it's kind of
like they put out Nosferatu last

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year, right?
Another remake of it.

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It's like, it's like, okay,
really again, like, come on.

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Yeah, come on, man.
Like, you know, and it's no

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matter how you spin it, it's the
same story.

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You have to.
Do something like Abe Lincoln

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Vampire Killer.
Right.

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Like Abe Lincoln was a vampire.
Like like who would have thought

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that Because I didn't read that
in historically books.

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But when the documentary came
out, I'm like, holy shit, he

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killed vampires.
It's still like, you know, it's

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the greatest thing.
I.

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Saw it.
I went and I saw it with my own

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eyes.
Chris Donald was telling the

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truth.
Abe Lincoln killed.

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Vampires.
Yeah, that should be in his

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presidential library.
Like they're Where's the wall?

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They should have a wall.
Dedicated to that.

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Right, because, you know, it's
part of our history.

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It's part of the legacy of
Lincoln, man, It's like how many

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how many presidents are that
badass?

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You know that they can go kill
vampires.

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I don't think people realize
that.

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So you have to, when you, when
you see these documentaries,

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man, you have to really like
wrap your head around like #1

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how they got all the
cinematography and stuff back

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then is amazing, right?
Exactly.

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Like that's really awesome.
Cinematography.

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Right, but that goes back to the
trend the, the, the, the time

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travel, you know, and, and that
actually exists because, you

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know, you see pictures with
people with cell phones in the

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1900s.
Well, how is that possible?

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How do they film Lincoln killing
vampires?

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It's, you know.
Have you seen like that famous,

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that famous picture of like a
guy?

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It looks like he's holding
basically an iPhone.

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I'm so glad you brought that up.
Yeah.

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Yes.
How do you explain that?

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Yeah.
I don't know.

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And nowadays, I mean nowadays.
Nowadays you could.

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Do it right, it would be so
quick.

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Exactly.
That picture has been around for

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what, over a decade?
That's.

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The problem?
Yeah, that's weird.

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Now, someone should have their
old VHS tape of where they taped

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that pay-per-view fight and see
if they can find that dude,

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right?
And then we would dispel the

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myth, you know, forever.
But yeah, it's it's, it's very,

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very odd.
I wish I could think of the

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guy's name.
Rogan has him on a lot.

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He debunks a lot of this stuff
that people believe as fact.

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Right.
Damn, I thought.

444
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,240
If I was on this.
Tip of my tongue.

445
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,480
If I could round up all the
Bigfoot videos.

446
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Oh yeah, just.
Throw them all.

447
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Collectively in the trash.
That's the one I want to believe

448
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,360
in the most.
Really.

449
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,920
And I don't, I just not, not
nowadays, that's.

450
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,880
The one I want to be real the
most, I guess.

451
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880
I don't know, yeah.
It's funny with those because

452
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,680
it's like they all followed this
kind of this one pattern.

453
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,560
You got the guys just filming
trees for no reason whatsoever,

454
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,960
right?
And then in the distance, they

455
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,640
see something that may or may
not be a humongous furry animal.

456
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Well, like a lot, a lot of
people don't know that that

457
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,720
famous Patterson footage, that
guy was a con man.

458
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,560
He actually went to jail for not
returning or not paying for the

459
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760
actual camera that he filmed the
footage with to begin with.

460
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,680
And oh wow, you know, he was, he
rented the gorilla suit or

461
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080
whatever.
And that's all been debunked a

462
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,960
million times.
And and you still have just a

463
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,960
shit load of people that will
never think that's not a real

464
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,320
video.
And they give you all the

465
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,320
reasons why it's a female
Bigfoot.

466
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,520
People are.
Adorable.

467
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,960
I I used to believe in
everything.

468
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,440
I've been down the conspiracy
almost every conspiracy room.

469
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Or just in like every kind of
supernatural kind of mythical

470
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,840
like Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot,
yeah, aliens abducting people

471
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,920
and.
I still think aliens abduct

472
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920
people.
I still think that's legit.

473
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,880
I don't think that.
I think those people are, I

474
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,640
think those people are suffering
from some kind of.

475
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,560
Well, remember the IT went down
in Arizona years and years ago

476
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,680
like and, and, and I was there.
They were, they were straight up

477
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720
like lumberjack, like worker
type guys that were not.

478
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Oh, you're talking about the old
one.

479
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,800
Like fire in the sky.
Fire in the sky.

480
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,720
Yeah, yes.
Like that shit that to me that

481
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,920
you just, you can't make that
stuff up.

482
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,280
I don't think to the level that
they could describe in detail

483
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,960
like, so I think it happens on
some level.

484
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,720
I don't think it's I, I mean, I
think there's aliens and shit

485
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,400
more than we think because, you
know, the government hides shit

486
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,480
from everybody for so long.
And now it's kind of, you know,

487
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,920
everything's coming full circle
now.

488
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,920
But because we're so
desensitized, nobody gives you a

489
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,480
shit.
The internet's ruined us all.

490
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,880
Where?
Where you know where are you at

491
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,960
on the moon landing?
Will you?

492
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Yeah.
I I don't have any reason to not

493
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,920
believe that I.
Agree.

494
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,600
Do you believe that they fake
the footage?

495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,720
I want to believe that.
Like, I think that we went to

496
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,480
the moon.
I don't think any of that

497
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,360
footage is real.
Oh I see, so it could be both.

498
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Both can be true.
Yeah, You know, they hired

499
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,920
Stanley Kubrick to do a lot of
the behind the scenes.

500
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,000
They kind of, they needed B roll
kind of stuff.

501
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520
I I'm not sure that the B roll
was B roll.

502
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,000
I think it was all A roll
because how do you make it

503
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,720
through the Van Allen radiation
belt?

504
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,040
They Kodak claims they didn't
make any kind of special film or

505
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,560
you know, NASA always said we
had special film and a special

506
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,600
case and.
And you know, like, how do you

507
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080
make special film when you have
no idea if it's going to survive

508
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,920
or not?
And I'm sure there's people are

509
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480
going to be slamming me on this
going, no, dude, you're totally

510
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,800
wrong and here's why.
And I don't know all the

511
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,040
details, but I really believe in
my heart of hearts that they

512
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280
went there because then there's
too many people that were

513
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600
involved that would have had to
have kept that secret for way

514
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,080
too long.
And people have big mouths,

515
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760
right?
And they brought stuff back.

516
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,400
It's, I mean they bought.
Some of the stuff that they

517
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,560
claimed that they brought back
was proven to be bullshit.

518
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,880
Like they gave a moon rock to.
You can Google who it was.

519
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,400
A president gave a moon rock to
another president and that that

520
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280
president had it tested and it
was.

521
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,760
Dread upon it.
Yeah, they got it in like next

522
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,240
to Chris over there.
Death Valley.

523
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880
Wow, OK.
So yeah, some of that stuff's

524
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320
been proven to be bullshit.
Yeah, got it.

525
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,760
I'm glad you said Death Valley
because there's and I'm going to

526
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,120
veer back to the book.
There's an actual section,

527
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,280
there's two chapters where
they're in Death Valley.

528
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,000
Oh, right on.
Can't be on and and I can't

529
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,160
believe I didn't mention this
before the the the first time.

530
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960
There's one or two chapters
where he's actually going

531
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,720
through Glendale, AZ.
Oh, I lived there for quite some

532
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,360
time.
You did.

533
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,040
That's where we had band
practice.

534
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,880
I would drive an hour, an hour
to go to band practice.

535
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,640
I remember doing the 45 minutes
to band practice all across, you

536
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,840
know, across the Metroplex.
But yeah, like this Guy Davis,

537
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000
he starts off in Abilene, TX.
Now.

538
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,960
I don't know if Abilene nemesis.
Ever played Abilene, TX?

539
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,520
We don't play Abilene.
There's and you and a million

540
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,720
other bands did not ever play
Abilene, but Nope.

541
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,480
And I know some on their behalf.
That place has grown, just like

542
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,120
a lot of Texas.
It's what used to be kind of

543
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,440
middle of nowhere country has
grown into, you know, almost big

544
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,800
cities now.
And so so I'm not going to trash

545
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,160
them at all because I, you know,
I placed my character in that

546
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,600
city.
That's quite.

547
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,080
But I just kind of followed this
map where he would follow this

548
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,800
band because he's he's not, he's
not looking to be a groupie.

549
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,280
He's looking.
So, OK, so, so we're on this

550
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560
topic right here.
So what's your what's your

551
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,400
feeling of Garth Brooks being a
serial killer and killing women

552
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000
every place he goes on tour
because there's a conspiracy

553
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,960
that women disappear?
Are you?

554
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,040
During Garth.
Brooks, No, you haven't heard

555
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,600
this.
I've never talked about it.

556
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Yeah, there's women.
There's women that always

557
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,880
disappear during his wherever he
goes It's but they think about

558
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,560
it.
A roadie would be one of the

559
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,720
greatest serial killer
opportunities of all time

560
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
because he's in a different city
night after night after night.

561
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Night after night, yeah, and
just.

562
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Like a truck driver.
Right.

563
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,680
And it's like, yeah, so you, you
know, you grab a chick and, you

564
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280
know, do your deed and then, you
know, I don't know, dispose the

565
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,720
body somewhere.
Then you're off to the next

566
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,360
city.
And roadies are, you know,

567
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,080
they're, they're you don't,
they're invisible.

568
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
You don't see them.
Their entire life is invisible.

569
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Right.
No one cares about those guys.

570
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,320
They don't know those guys.
You know, a few Rd. crews have,

571
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,760
you know, risen to this kind of
notoriety like Panteras Rd.

572
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,240
crew, but.
People still don't know.

573
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,920
You couldn't name 1 member of
it.

574
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,560
You know, they're, they're just
at work every day.

575
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,280
I just want people to know we
are not disparaging roadies.

576
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,920
We're not anyway.
We're just saying you're the

577
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,080
behind.
I like, we love behind the scene

578
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880
guys.
Yeah, I'd love to have a roadie

579
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400
come on the show and tell us how
things work and how absolutely

580
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200
the stuff that's involved with
setting a stage.

581
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,640
All we're saying is you guys get
to be invisible in the coolest

582
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,880
part, in the coolest environment
ever, all the time.

583
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Yeah.
Imagine and how.

584
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Is Roadie just always thought
that about?

585
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280
I always thought that about the
the actual musicians.

586
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Like, I had an idea for that
same kind of story that, you

587
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680
know, people claim about Greth
Brooks when I was a teenager.

588
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,080
I was like, what if this
Rockstar, you know, just goes

589
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200
from town to town killing?
And it in that book, one of the

590
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,200
reasons is a vampire tells my
guy, you know, the reason I

591
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,000
picked you, the reason I pick
everyone and no one even cares

592
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280
about them a week later is
because they're they're

593
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960
basically the losers of this
world.

594
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480
And no one's going to remember
them after they're gone.

595
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040
And she's like, I'm sorry, you
got turned into a vampire.

596
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,920
The event was supposed to be
that I fed on you.

597
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400
You were my meal.
And then that was the end of

598
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,240
you.
And she's like, my, my bad for,

599
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,800
you know, for what happened
instead.

600
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,280
And yeah, hijinks and Sue.
Kind of like Interview the

601
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,400
Vampire when when one of them
turns that little girl Kirsten

602
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,680
Dunn's character.
What?

603
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Have you done?
What have you done?

604
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,640
You needed a playmate.
Here's a playmate.

605
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,240
Exactly.
Yeah, it's not.

606
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,200
It's not really apples to
apples.

607
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,400
No, of course not.
You know, it's.

608
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Yeah.
And then and then you realize

609
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,160
that later, like she's stuck at
that age for the for the rest of

610
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640
eternity until she gets burned
up in the fire or the sun.

611
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Yeah, that would that would be
the most just annoying thing.

612
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,720
You know, you're 468 years old
and you have a body of a 12 year

613
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,840
old.
Yeah, that would be.

614
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Actually, she was younger, I
think.

615
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Yeah, she was younger.
She had played with dolls and

616
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,080
shit, so that would just.
Yeah, that would at.

617
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Least at least make me legal age
man.

618
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,320
You turn me at least I get 18 in
a day then turn me well.

619
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Over 21 preferably.
Well, yeah, but you know, I mean

620
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320
to be turned it like 7 or 8,
which is absolutely.

621
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,680
No, I'm with you.
That would be hell.

622
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Yeah, Did you guys ever watch
True Blood?

623
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Oh.
Yes.

624
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Loved it.
Yes.

625
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,200
So did you know there's the
redhead teenager on that show?

626
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Yep.
She gets turned and then she

627
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,880
loses her virginity, right?
And the very next time that she

628
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760
has sex, she loses her
virginity, right?

629
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Right.
And the very next time, because

630
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,840
it grows.
Back.

631
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,880
That would also suck.
And so she is so pissed off that

632
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,120
this is going to happen every
single time with a guy that

633
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,680
she's in love with.
Yeah.

634
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,760
That.
I mean, I think it almost makes

635
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
her want to kill herself right
then and there.

636
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Yeah.
And kill the guy, yeah.

637
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320
You know, which is another
horrible part about being a

638
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200
woman.
It's like, you know, our first

639
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,400
time is just as good as every
other time after that.

640
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Yeah, and they have to go.
Through this horrible one time

641
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320
or.
It's one kind of maybe horrible

642
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,360
to my wife have where she's
like, you know, I believe in God

643
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,480
and I love God.
She's like, but I don't know if

644
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,840
he loves women.
She's like, because this sucks

645
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040
and it sucks to be a woman and
I'm like.

646
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080
I'm going through this thing.
We're, we're, we're Nikki and

647
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120
I've been married, well, you
know, 30 years.

648
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
And, and so we're, we're going
to have our marriage blessed in

649
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,080
the Catholic Church because he
has a Catholic.

650
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
We've been living in sin for 30
years, which I just think is

651
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,400
funny, right?
But I was going somewhere with

652
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,240
that, that tied to with that.
Oh, so, so everything that we go

653
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
these two classes on Tuesday
nights and, and when they start

654
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,720
talking about different things,
it's always Eve's fault.

655
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Always, it's always Eve's fault
because had it not been for Eve

656
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440
tempting Adam, none of this
would happen.

657
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
The original sin wouldn't exist.
It's all Eve's faults.

658
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,400
When it comes down to it, God's
a chauvinist and he's like, it's

659
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080
the woman's fault.
I have to blame somebody.

660
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,960
So he he made a woman to blame
her.

661
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,880
So your wife's not wrong at all.
I totally see that line.

662
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360
I agree with.
That yeah, yeah.

663
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920
I mean, then they kind of get a
bad rap throughout the Bible.

664
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Totally.
Yeah, totally.

665
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440
You know from.
From the very first woman.

666
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Yeah, all the way down.
A lot of blame and.

667
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,960
And I'm the kind of guy that
looks up and says, you know, you

668
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920
designed this shit.
Right.

669
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Yeah.
So it's that whole thing.

670
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Well, you know, you're you're
this, this, this.

671
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Well, I'm I'm he's I made in his
image.

672
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,840
You made it like I'd say if
there's flaws.

673
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,960
OK, well, he's flawed because
I'm flawed.

674
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,360
Yeah.
It's crazy just throwing it out.

675
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,280
There, I'm trying to see so
many, I'm trying to reach out

676
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,719
and, and get so much more
knowledge and information about

677
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,400
religion and Christianity than
I've ever had in my entire life.

678
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,080
But I mean, it's, it's hard.
I just had this conversation

679
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,719
with my mother over lunch and
not in depth or deeper.

680
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,199
You know, we, we view a lot of
things the same ways and

681
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,960
obviously we're two different
people, so we have different

682
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,199
views on things.
But I, I just, there's certain

683
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,560
things that don't make sense.
And I have to, you know,

684
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Kirsten, I've talked about it
100 times.

685
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,000
For me to be happy, I have to
just believe what I believe and

686
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600
I don't, I don't know what's
right and what's wrong.

687
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,080
So you know, I just want
everybody to understand when

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,720
we're talking about this for
sure.

689
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,720
These are our opinions.
You know, there's a million ways

690
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,440
to look at it.
Whatever you do to make you

691
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920
happy, do that, right?
As long as it's not hurting

692
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,640
anybody else.
I always have to throw that out

693
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,080
there cuz there's crazy fucking
people.

694
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Yeah, I've always tried to, to
live by the kind of the

695
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,880
philosophy that you can do and
be anything you want in this

696
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440
world or in this country at
least.

697
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,240
Yeah, as long as you're not
hurting yourself and you're not

698
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,800
hurting others.
And I personally try to just

699
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,920
now, especially, especially
nowadays, I'm a little bit

700
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,880
kinder.
So I want to be, I want to be a

701
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,840
reflection of kindness and love
and respect for people.

702
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,040
And I'm not.
I've never been religious, but

703
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,600
it was Christmas Eve.
I actually prayed, you know, to

704
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,320
to what I don't know.
Yeah.

705
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,160
And since that day, I've had
this kind of peace and I came up

706
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,320
with this mantra that I repeat
almost daily to myself and

707
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,240
that's I will not be consumed by
the darkness.

708
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,560
I will be the light that
defeats, devours and destroys

709
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680
the darkness.
Sounds like a vampire.

710
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,880
Right, right.
I like that though.

711
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,480
That is cool though.
That's cool.

712
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,320
I like it.
Thanks.

713
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,560
My main goal is the same
William, is to be kind to

714
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,320
people.
You know, Chris wears that shirt

715
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,200
a lot.
Be kind.

716
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960
That is my mantra because I
became a horrible person for a

717
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,200
while and I was super negative
and my way or the highway

718
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440
bullshit and all that is so
ridiculous.

719
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,480
You know, it's like I believe
that somehow we're all

720
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,960
connected.
We're a high of mind.

721
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
We just don't know it.
We're just like the bees, but we

722
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,600
just don't.
They understand it.

723
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,720
They work swimmingly together
and we try to push ourselves

724
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,680
apart all the time, right?
We don't understand that we're

725
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
all energy, we're all connected
somehow.

726
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,120
We're humming along at a
frequency.

727
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,680
We're spending a bit, whatever
it is, 60, some 1000 miles an

728
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,000
hour hurtling through space on a
spaceship, but you think you're

729
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,960
standing on a flat surface.
You know, it's people don't look

730
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960
up anymore.
It's like there's space out

731
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,440
there.
There's a whole universe.

732
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,560
It's like, and we're quibbling
over not us, but us as human

733
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,240
beings are quibbling over who's
right and wrong about the

734
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:24,800
creator.
That nobody even.

735
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400
It's just we're like rats in a
case sometimes.

736
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,160
It's just, it's faith, it's
blind faith.

737
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,160
Yeah, that we're.
Just that's every religion.

738
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,280
There's three.
So we talked about this last.

739
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,560
I need some proof of something.
I I pulled this clip up.

740
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:41,960
William Ricky Gervais talking
about he's an atheist, right?

741
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
And he's like, he's like, so
there's 3000 gods in all of the

742
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,800
world.
There's 3000 gods.

743
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,400
If you look at all the different
countries different.

744
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640
I mean, just at the end of the
day, there's 3000 gods.

745
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
So he's like, I just don't
believe in one of your gods, so.

746
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,000
He says I believe in one less
than you do.

747
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,800
I believe in one less than you
do.

748
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,800
That's that makes me an atheist.
Yeah, right.

749
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,280
But that's the thing.
I mean, think about it.

750
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,080
The Native Americans nothing but
love, but historically, like all

751
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,120
the gods, they have the, the
wind and fire and rain and, and

752
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440
the spirits, their spirits,
which is cool, but that's still

753
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,280
like I, I kind of like that kind
of thing, like the whole spirit

754
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520
world, like young guns, you know
when they took the peyote and

755
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,920
they're riding the.
Horses.

756
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,320
Why can't they?
I want to know what where the.

757
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,760
Spirit world asshole.
They can't see us.

758
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,640
I've seen that world a million
times and I want to know what?

759
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Not a million, more like 5 or
10, but sure.

760
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000
I want to know what that is more
than I want to know what

761
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,240
anything.
There's somebody behind you.

762
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:41,320
I don't want you.
I yeah, it's the the ghost.

763
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,960
Tom, Jude.
No, no, we, we did this one of

764
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,920
the first time we did this show,
somebody walked behind me and

765
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,360
and this is my job.
Yeah, Mike's job is to because

766
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,880
I'm in.
I could have been killed.

767
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,240
I have my thing face to my
Usually you can see my other

768
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,760
window.
So then you can see somebody go.

769
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,240
So yeah, it's it's Mike's job to
like, hey dude, there's somebody

770
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,760
behind you.
So that way I don't get, you

771
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,240
know, I don't get it.
Because, you know, we're so

772
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,320
popular that, you know, I could
be assassinated on the show.

773
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,240
You know, we're starting to get
hate.

774
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,840
We're starting to get hate
keyboard.

775
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000
Words you know, you know.
Which is cool.

776
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,640
No, it's fantastic.
It's great because that we're

777
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,720
doing something.
So I'm just like, thank you for

778
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,440
your, thank you for watching and
listening.

779
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,640
Have a wonderful day.
Like they'll slam us for

780
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,080
something like thank you, a
wonderful day, which is going to

781
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,440
drive nuts.
And, and I know when I comment

782
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,760
or post on like one of my
community groups, you know, on

783
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,800
Facebook or whatnot, that that
eventually I'm going to, I've

784
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,080
already had a few kind of like
almost smart ass comments on

785
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,080
something I've said.
Kill them with kindness if

786
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,920
you're going to comment.
Yeah, and I'm waiting for the

787
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,360
the day where someone just
really unloads on me and then

788
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,120
we'll see.
We're more on.

789
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,040
If I if I actually have matured
and I and I actually have become

790
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,200
a better person because I think
I have, I have, but you, you

791
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,320
never know until you're in a
challenging situation.

792
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,240
One thing I do know that's
different about me and if you go

793
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,560
to my website, I don't know if
you were able to check out the

794
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,080
website before this session.
It's the D William xavier.com.

795
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,960
Can you not pull stuff up,
Chris?

796
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480
I can't, OK.
It's not.

797
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,200
I wrote a blog where I talked
about how I spent most of my

798
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,600
life being selfish.
Oh, OK.

799
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,120
And and how selfishness, you
know, in and of itself isn't

800
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,960
altogether bad, but I definitely
carried the most negative

801
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,960
aspects of it through my life
and in my heart for a long time.

802
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:47,480
And I realized I was becoming
different once I had a yeah,

803
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,280
right there.
If you look at the blog, if you

804
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000
click on blog, you'll see that
1A charitable heart.

805
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,240
Yeah, finally.
And.

806
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Nice dude.
Thanks.

807
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Becoming a husband 1st and then
a father definitely took away a

808
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,880
lot of that selfishness for me.
Yeah, but it was when I decided

809
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200
to write a book and, and to
actually publish it, it was like

810
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:16,200
a no brainer for me to say that
I'm going to always donate at

811
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,760
least 10% of my royalties from
each and every book to a

812
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,400
specific charity.
Cool.

813
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,960
So for for House of the Black
Moon, it's Blood Cancer United

814
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,720
that I got involved with through
in through work.

815
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,600
Go back to the home employer not
to interrupt you.

816
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Go back to the home page.
I can scroll.

817
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Keep scrolling down.
It's pretty interesting what you

818
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,120
see there.
Keep going.

819
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,800
Hey, those guys look familiar.
Hey, those are two morons.

820
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,880
There's one moron almost like
you 2 morons.

821
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,720
That's what they that's what
they told us on Facebook.

822
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,840
So, yeah, and if you can click
on learn more, you'll see what

823
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080
what I what I wrote about you
guys and.

824
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,960
Oh, right on.
I think it's.

825
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Pretty positive.
Yeah.

826
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,840
And so thank you.
Yeah.

827
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,280
With that first book, I'm
donating to Blood Cancer United.

828
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,440
With this second book, cool. 10%
of every book sale is going to

829
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,800
go to Make a Wish Foundation.
Oh.

830
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,840
Right on.
And I think the 20 years ago me

831
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,280
wouldn't have even that would
have been a thought in my mind.

832
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Right.
And now it's like not a thought

833
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,800
in my mind to, to try to give
back.

834
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,760
Yeah.
And, and, and right now, like I

835
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,400
have nothing to give back, like
almost $0.00.

836
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,240
But I'm going to make sure that
any money that comes from this,

837
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:45,680
this labor of Love Actually gets
filtered in, filtered out

838
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,920
through love as well.
So cool.

839
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,760
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see how it works out with

840
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,280
this and how much I can actually
donate, you know?

841
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Yeah, that's awesome, dude.
Thanks man, and I'm.

842
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Probably the hardest lesson I
learned was when I was a little

843
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,400
kid, you know, and I would want
to be revengeful or, you know,

844
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,040
my temper would get the better
of me.

845
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,520
And I'm talking like when I'm a
teenager, my Grammy told me

846
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,000
something that took me a long
time to put into practice, she

847
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,040
said.
When someone's disrespecting

848
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,880
you, kill him with kindness.
Yeah, they hate that shit and

849
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,920
then smile.
That's.

850
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,600
Why?
That's why I replied the way I

851
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,560
did to the guys on our on our
page, because a year, you know,

852
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,840
two years ago, I'd be like, fuck
you, man.

853
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,800
I would have started the fight.
And I'm like, she's right,

854
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,440
though.
I'm like, where do like you

855
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,560
defuse?
You take all their power away

856
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,400
because they want to fight with
like Chris just said.

857
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,640
If you start going fuck you and
fuck him, fuck that, you know,

858
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,800
then that's what happens.
Then tempers flare, you rage out

859
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,600
of control and nothing gets
solved.

860
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,640
If we just end it right here
with you know, that's your

861
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,320
opinion and I have mine.
I hope you have a wonderful day.

862
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Right.
And what are they going to say?

863
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Yeah, exactly.
With this, you know, online rage

864
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,680
bait kind of society we live in
now, like the Chris going off

865
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,200
like that is exactly what
someone wants.

866
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,440
And.
Like and to to be able to kill

867
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,840
him with kindness like that is,
I think, you know, the ultimate

868
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:21,120
fight ender, but also being like
the the better man at the same

869
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,040
time.
We talked last time and you

870
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
would, I forgot what it was you
said.

871
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,360
But then you, you, you
apologize.

872
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,960
You're like, I need to let you
know, like I don't have a filter

873
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,680
and you know, and some, you
know, some people don't like me

874
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,160
and blah, blah, blah.
And I can't even imagine what

875
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,880
that would have been.
I wanted to circle back to that

876
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,880
because I used to not have a
filter either.

877
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,840
And my wife still thinks that I
could definitely use a much

878
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,160
stronger muzzle on my mouth,
especially around the kids.

879
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Because we, we, I mean, for the
longest time, we were so good

880
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,800
about what we said in front of
them and, and how we acted in

881
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640
front of them.
And as they've gotten older and

882
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,520
been, you know, corrupted by
their little asshole friends at

883
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,720
school, they have, you know,
they've basically learned to be

884
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,440
the no filter little versions of
me.

885
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,000
And I have to not join in on
that because I, I know what it

886
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,120
feels like and it feels good to
be able to just spew it out.

887
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,280
Yeah.
And I have to try to rein myself

888
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,160
in as to not further corrupt
them.

889
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,880
But the teenagers nowadays are
so much more advanced when it

890
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,280
comes to what they what they've
been exposed to and what they

891
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,600
know that.
We didn't have the Internet.

892
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,840
We had to go search if we wanted
to know things.

893
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Like we've talked about this on
this podcast, like when I first

894
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,720
moved to Phoenix, if you wanted
to know what a porn movie was,

895
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,080
you had to go to a store and
face someone and give them money

896
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,640
and they gave you a movie,
right?

897
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,400
You had to make that commitment.
You got in your car, you drove

898
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,520
there, you went to a building
with no windows and, you know,

899
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,560
greasy fucking well, unless
you're Matt Farrell and then it

900
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,200
was the hottest chick in the
world in a wheelchair.

901
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,640
But right in my case, it was a
greasy fat dude behind the

902
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,840
counter eating Doritos and
drinking Mountain Dew out of a 2

903
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,440
liter bottle.
You know what do you need?

904
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,680
Look, I just want to buy this
movie and go.

905
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,640
Fucking kill.
It would be possible that we

906
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,000
went to the same exact store.
But nowadays I can get on

907
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
curiously for you guys, because
that never happened to me.

908
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Dude, that's never been my jam.
I'm sorry you missed out on this

909
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,240
opportunity because there's it's
a very romantic.

910
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,880
But it's OK after it's all.
Said and done well.

911
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,400
And kids my age, you know when
I.

912
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,400
Took me to the Peep Show.
Sorry to interrupt you.

913
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,520
So I told you they do the Peep
Show.

914
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,800
You told me that?
Yeah.

915
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,280
I was like, don't ever.
Take their age fucking place.

916
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,320
I hope that someone's dad had,
you know, a stack of magazines

917
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,000
or a stack of videos.
Yes, right, right, right.

918
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,640
There was this or this weird
kind of like, like almost the

919
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,960
light shining down when you
found something like in an alley

920
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,560
or in the in the park in the
forest.

921
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680
They are paced literally down by
the river.

922
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Down by the river.
But they actually have all this

923
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,520
just I mean.
At their fingertips now.

924
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,800
At their fingertips and and by
the time they've even made it

925
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,720
out of elementary school, they
know they know everything and.

926
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,000
You know what the sad part is is
they find a lot of it by

927
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,920
accident because they type in.
I'm trying to think of a phrase

928
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,000
that would lead you to.
Porn Skyler when she was When

929
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,280
Skyler was a kid she typed in
something for Britney Spears and

930
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,480
and boom porn like.
Full, full.

931
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Hardcore, you know, stuff.
I'm like what the hell is that

932
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,920
type thing and she's freaking
out.

933
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,920
It is, but I mean, my wife's a
teacher and you'd be shocked if

934
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,120
I told you to grade level and
what they already know it.

935
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,000
There's there's.
I wouldn't because I'm right

936
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,960
there.
Yeah, it's it's, it's

937
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,040
everywhere.
The stuff that that that grade

938
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,560
level does right is mind is mind
boggling stuff that you all

939
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,600
three of us would never even
thought of until we got it.

940
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Like middle, mid, sophomore,
junior in high school.

941
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,800
If that for sure, yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's it's.

942
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,240
That just trips me out.
Oh, big time.

943
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,760
And the and the thing that sucks
about it is if you're not open

944
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,160
with your children about the
birds and the bees, let's call

945
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,360
it, then that's where they go.
Yeah.

946
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,080
You know, instead of come to
their.

947
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,680
Virgin, right?
Instead of open and explaining

948
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:43,560
and making sure they understand
how to how to like my son when

949
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,320
he was young, I caught him on
YouTube and I reeled him back.

950
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
I'm like hey dude, I thought
this was great.

951
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Is this the type of woman you
want to bring home to meet your

952
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,920
mother?
But it, it, it made him

953
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,760
understand there's, there's, I
mean, that's part of life on

954
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,680
some levels, but the other side
of life is respect and, and, and

955
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,400
the love and the beauty of love
and finding that connection.

956
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,280
You know, our kids struggle
because Nick and I have such a

957
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,080
great relationship.
We've been together for so long.

958
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,040
They were so obvious and
transparent with everything with

959
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
them that it's it's hard to find
that now.

960
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,800
Skyler luckily found found her
husband.

961
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,120
They then on an app, which is
cool and two years long

962
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,000
distance.
They live, you know, an hour, 45

963
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,040
minutes apart from each other
and they made it work.

964
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,520
And here they are now with with
their their son Trip.

965
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,440
And then they've taken Michael's
taken Anthony as his own and you

966
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,680
know, it's awesome.
But Jake is a guy.

967
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,760
So he's stuck in that app world
where it's just all girls want

968
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,400
to do is get laid.
Right.

969
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Where did I don't know.
What the fuck was that out loud?

970
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,880
But.
You know what I mean?

971
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,560
It's just you can't you, you
just don't have that anymore

972
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,880
that we had growing up.
Like when I first met Nikki, it

973
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,520
was I, I was, I opened a door to
a group home I was going to do

974
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,280
some stuff for and there she was
on the chair.

975
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,840
You know, it wasn't, it was
before the Internet, all kind of

976
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,240
shit.
And then I had to have the balls

977
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:08,800
to ask her out.
And then she blew me off for two

978
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,320
months, you know, and so it's
that kind of thing.

979
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,080
You don't have that anymore in
the world today.

980
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Every of these texts and and
emails, they won't pick up the

981
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,200
phone.
And it's just, it's sad.

982
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,880
It's sad for the future of
relations.

983
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,480
You don't have that internal
connection anymore.

984
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,520
You don't have that intimate
connection because you just like

985
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,880
this.
We're we're on three different

986
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
places in the world right now.
Exactly.

987
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,920
You know, I mean, this is as
transparent as you can get, but

988
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,720
if we're in a room together, the
reactions will be different, the

989
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,960
conversation will be different,
the flow, it will be different.

990
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,080
You know, laughter would be, you
know what I mean?

991
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,400
So there's good things and bad
things would come.

992
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Technology.
That's my soapbox.

993
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,480
I'm sorry.
Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.

994
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,400
No, That's why we're here.
But no, you hit it on the head.

995
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,840
There are good things and bad
things about technology, and

996
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,600
sometimes the pluses seem to
outweigh the minuses and

997
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,600
sometimes they don't.
Like I can't, I can't go on the

998
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,760
Internet without thinking that
90% of the videos and photos I

999
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,760
look at are actually fake.
They.

1000
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,280
Are.
Yeah, but they're not real.

1001
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Yeah, I know.
That sucks.

1002
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,440
That part's starting to suck
something.

1003
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Yes, it is.
It is, yeah.

1004
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,800
And and yeah.
What's what's more sad about

1005
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,360
that is the number of people who
actually believe that they're

1006
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,400
real.
Right.

1007
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,600
And with it, without doing, you
know, just a damn bit of common

1008
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,280
sense and research, right?
And reading and just.

1009
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,160
Read underneath the picture.
Read because it tells you.

1010
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,720
The three of us affectionately
forward thinkers, right?

1011
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,280
So I put people in categories of
human beings.

1012
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,280
We would be in a category of
human being that I would call a

1013
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,800
forward thinker.
We're a dying breed.

1014
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,920
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

1015
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:54,120
People are easily LED man.
Just if you believe that James

1016
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,960
Hetfield had a conversation with
Donald, that's one I read

1017
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960
recently that James Hetfield
recently had a conversation with

1018
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,280
Donald Trump.
Maybe he did.

1019
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,880
But then what it said
underneath, it was like, no,

1020
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,320
that conversation, never.
Happened.

1021
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,880
That's the thing that they do.
They post something and then you

1022
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,800
think, but then you go to the
very bottom line and in and in

1023
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,600
this scenario, it would be great
if this actually happened, but

1024
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,160
people don't go all the way down
and read it.

1025
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,600
They just see the picture and
boom, we had a guy who slam us

1026
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,840
on one of our things that that
had filled one of the songs.

1027
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,120
Fade the Black's not about
suicide.

1028
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,360
We sat here and watched the clip
on YouTube.

1029
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,560
I heard the story 100 times from
the man himself saying all our

1030
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,560
equipment got stolen right
before either their first major

1031
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,840
gig on Megaforce Records or it
was a travesty.

1032
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,400
And he said all I wanted to do
was slit my wrist or throat or

1033
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,560
whatever.
Yeah, it's totally about because

1034
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,120
he reached the pinnacle of where
he wanted to be and they went to

1035
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,720
the the van or the trailer and
all their shit was gone and

1036
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:56,960
they're like, aw, man.
Can you imagine if that was

1037
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,520
actually the pinnacle of
Metallica?

1038
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,040
And at that moment, 1980 it was.
1984 right before Ride the

1039
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,160
Lightning.
Yep, he he probably thought

1040
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,120
there's no way we'll ever get
bigger than this.

1041
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,480
Of course.
How we get to release a second

1042
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,160
album?
I've heard him say on a year and

1043
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,120
a half and everybody that's
watched it, he said we're five

1044
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200
or four of the luckiest guys
that ever lived.

1045
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,440
We just never gave up.
This could be you too, right?

1046
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Yeah.
There's nothing special about

1047
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,320
us.
We're individually, we're not

1048
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,280
that great of musicians.
I've heard him say that.

1049
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,760
But collectively, when you put
us in a room, something magical

1050
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,160
happens.
And I believe him to some

1051
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,360
extent, but he is like.
You got to be.

1052
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Humble man is the best.
Rhythm guitar player for that

1053
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,600
kind of music, him and Dave.
I'll give Dave credit too,

1054
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,720
because Dave invented those
spider cords that we all still

1055
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,520
use today, right?
Here's how to move quickly from

1056
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,840
one chord to the next.
You know, you just bump your

1057
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,000
finger up one.
Nobody would have thought of

1058
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,960
that till he did.
So I give them both credit.

1059
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160
I think those guys are 1A and 1B
for sure.

1060
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:10,800
And, and, and James kind of
focused more on the vocals and

1061
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,280
Dave focused more on the just
the intricate and complex riffs.

1062
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,320
Because, and I'm going to agree
with you there, and I'm also

1063
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,000
going to say that Metallica
focused more on having a little

1064
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,680
bit of a swing to their music
where it wasn't just.

1065
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,280
Yeah, because Lars is not a good
enough drummer to do what Nick

1066
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,920
Menza did, right.
Nick Menza was a human

1067
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,360
metronome.
Lars plays by the seat of his

1068
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440
pants.
And love him or hate him,

1069
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,920
Metallica would not be that
band, and they would have never

1070
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,160
done what they did if anybody
else sat behind that drum kit.

1071
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,440
Exactly.
It's just the chemistry that

1072
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,000
those four guys have together
and, you know, they've been

1073
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,160
lucky to have it with the guys
that came after Cliff Burton and

1074
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:57,400
just, I mean, I you, you don't
have metal as it exists without,

1075
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,960
you know, Sabbath, Metallica,
and I'd say Pantera.

1076
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,080
No.
And I'd use myself and you and

1077
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,720
Chris as an educated party
because we were those people.

1078
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,200
We played with people that meant
that much to us.

1079
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,640
And we understand that chemistry
without him fronting our band,

1080
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,960
without Scott playing the
Drones, without, you know, he

1081
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600
wants to be called William now.
I always want to call him Rick.

1082
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,680
Without William playing.
Those four guys made that band

1083
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,120
right.
We were in the same boat.

1084
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,240
I'm an average to good guitar
player at best.

1085
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:34,440
I'm not breaking any new ground.
I just want to be a good

1086
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,640
songwriter.
That was always my goal, right?

1087
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,920
I don't really care about
playing other people's music.

1088
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,880
That's not my stick.
Me either.

1089
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,840
I love writing my own stuff, I
love having my own style.

1090
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,240
And you know, Chris gives me the
compliment.

1091
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,320
I would never said this out
loud, but basically when we

1092
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,240
started that band, the whole
sound of that part of the valley

1093
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:56,400
started to change.
It just did.

1094
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,560
When I got there in 1993, the
Gin Blossoms were the biggest

1095
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,480
thing going.
They had just played on David

1096
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,920
Letterman.
I love that band.

1097
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,040
They wrote a lot of great songs.
And unfortunately their guitar

1098
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,320
player Slash Songwriter was a
horrible drug addict of or

1099
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,440
alcoholic or something, I think
both maybe.

1100
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,040
And they had to let him go and
after that they couldn't write

1101
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,920
another song.
He was the vehicle that made

1102
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,320
that.
That's why the Gin Blossoms

1103
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,760
just.
Heat it out right away.

1104
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:27,880
I wish I remember they had that
guy's name.

1105
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,960
I remember they had a song on
the that 1993 Kiss tribute album

1106
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Think they did Christine 16.
You're right on that album.

1107
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,040
Good memory, Damn.
Thanks and but don't come right

1108
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,760
I'm I feel exactly the same way
you do when it comes to my own

1109
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,320
guitar and and songwriting.
I never really felt the need or

1110
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,000
the even the desire to learn
other people's songs.

1111
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:55,720
And I don't begrudge anybody for
doing that.

1112
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:57,760
I've always feel the need to
explain myself.

1113
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,520
But like we had Don on and he
said, hey, play us some

1114
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,240
whatever.
And you know, Chris will defend

1115
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,160
me all the time.
He's like, he's not that kind of

1116
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,040
guitar player, you know, Right.
It was important for me to have

1117
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:14,000
my own voice, and as a young,
inexperienced, very nervous, not

1118
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,000
very confident guitar player, I
didn't want to be influenced by

1119
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880
other people either, right?
I felt like if I'd learned all

1120
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,160
these songs that I would sound
like George Lynch or sound like

1121
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,880
Eddie Van Halen or, you know,
that's how little confidence I

1122
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,200
had in my own songwriting
ability at the time.

1123
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,360
Right.
And I What's funny though is you

1124
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,320
know, some now, you know, 30
something years since I first

1125
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,520
started playing guitar, when I
actually have learned either a

1126
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,000
bit of a song or a solo or
something like that.

1127
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Those just the learning of those
songs.

1128
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:56,040
So those sections kind of help
add little, you know, now new

1129
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,600
little tools.
I'm glad, Guitar Toolbox.

1130
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,680
I was thinking about it
backwards back then, right?

1131
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,120
All it would have done was add
to my ability to steal from, you

1132
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,560
know, like you said, little
tidbits.

1133
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,560
Oh, I didn't know if I did a
trill right there, it would end

1134
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,040
out the measure.
And, you know, I don't just have

1135
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,680
to hold one note.
I can go like one and two and

1136
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,720
three, or, you know, three and
four and one or you know.

1137
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,920
I think learning how to play on
your own and with your own songs

1138
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,600
helps you kind of get to your
own sound years before another

1139
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,840
guitarist might get to that
sound because they are playing,

1140
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,520
you know, what's popular, what
the standards are, what the what

1141
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,280
they're expected to learn how to
play.

1142
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,440
Yeah, see, now you made my
argument in reverse.

1143
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Now, now, we did it the right
way, right?

1144
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
And and I agree.
With your statement I do.

1145
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,040
Yeah, yeah.
But just like the technology

1146
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,640
statement, there's there's good
sides to it and there's bad

1147
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,720
sides to it.
Right when I want to say that

1148
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,000
there's a bad side, Chris just
said something that warmed my

1149
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,000
heart the other day.
He's like, I'm so glad that I

1150
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,200
get to hang out with you a
couple times a week again.

1151
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,880
I couldn't agree with him more,
man.

1152
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,720
It's like, yeah, it's it's
changed my life for the better,

1153
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,040
right?
It's somebody that meant

1154
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,680
something to me on a level that
nobody else will because we

1155
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,560
shared a stage together, We
wrote songs together, right?

1156
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,320
Super intimate, super humble,
super vulnerable, All the words

1157
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,120
that were right to make a
perfect friendship and

1158
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,160
partnership, right?
Yeah.

1159
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,760
You can't recreate those things.
So to have done this now, I

1160
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,440
think you're one 79179 times.
Yeah.

1161
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,680
That's sweet.
I've learned so much.

1162
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,720
He's learned so much.
We've gotten to meet great

1163
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,480
English there, Mike.
We've gotten to me.

1164
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,760
We, we've had the pleasure of
meeting people like yourself,

1165
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,840
producers like he's done just
such an amazing job at bringing

1166
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,320
people on here that I would have
never thought I would have

1167
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,440
gotten to talk to.
Right.

1168
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:01,160
So do you kind of see exactly
like the skill set or the

1169
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,920
comfortability now?
On like 179 shows in as opposed

1170
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,600
to like the first couple.
Has it changed at all or?

1171
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,880
With me for sure go back and
listen to the first couple as

1172
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,000
he's trying to get me to
actually talk and be a normal

1173
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,800
human being right, right.
He did this on the radio.

1174
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,960
This was nothing to him, right?
And I?

1175
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,000
Knew.
Yeah, yeah.

1176
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,280
And again, because who I am
extraordinaire it was.

1177
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Even if he had never been on the
radio, I know it would be easy

1178
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,160
because he fronted a heavy.
He fronted a rock'n'roll band

1179
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,200
for.
Long, right?

1180
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Yeah.
Do you?

1181
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,920
I, I think I wrote something in
the blog that, you know, I

1182
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,440
wasn't an extrovert.
I wasn't, I was an introvert.

1183
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,920
I know who decided to become the
singer and songwriter and

1184
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,680
frontman of a band.
Yeah.

1185
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,040
And, you know, I wasn't a
businessman.

1186
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:58,680
So I decided to go get my MBA
to, to learn those business

1187
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,000
skills as well as the artistic
skills.

1188
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,160
And, you know, I'd, I've, I've
constantly done things behind

1189
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,360
everybody when it comes to
technology and, and, and what's

1190
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,520
available.
And I've constantly, even when

1191
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,640
I've tried to not do things the
hard way, it's like, what am I

1192
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,400
good at?
I'm good at playing guitar and

1193
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,840
writing songs.
Hey, you know, what's almost the

1194
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,280
hardest thing to do in the whole
world to make a living is play

1195
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,240
guitar and writing songs.
After doing business for so

1196
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,680
long, I was like, you know what?
I'm going to write books.

1197
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,840
Well, guess what?
What's top five?

1198
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Just almost as hard as as music
to try and make a.

1199
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,600
Living that was that.
That was my trajectory, man.

1200
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,720
I went to college to be a
writer.

1201
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,680
I got AII, won some awards and
got an internship at the Mesa

1202
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,680
trip for someone realized, well
shit, I don't make any money

1203
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,280
doing this.
So what did I do?

1204
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,040
I just transferred my my major
from journalism to theater

1205
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,680
because because.
That's where the money's.

1206
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Right.
So and then that and then that

1207
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,760
kind of, you know, ended up
molding into the music because

1208
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,960
the music I could do all I could
do, I could put on the face of

1209
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,120
the character of the song I
wrote.

1210
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,040
I could act, I could sing, I
could portray, I could have all

1211
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,800
those things that filled that
career side of my head.

1212
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,160
But then again, it's, it's, you
know, it's like being an NFL

1213
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,480
quarterback.
It's .0001% chance you're going

1214
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,840
to get drafted to begin with.
Let.

1215
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,920
Alone become a quarterback for
one of only 32 football teams in

1216
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,360
the world on that stage.
So it's, you know.

1217
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,400
Right.
So to parrot my comment, which

1218
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,640
was similar to yours, when I got
on Instagram, somebody bashed us

1219
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,640
for dissing on Kid Rock.
And I was like, I didn't know we

1220
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,880
were in competition.
You know, he told us that we

1221
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,600
were jealous that he was
something and we were nothing.

1222
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,200
And I was like, I didn't know I
was in competition with him.

1223
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,080
But you know, I hope you have a
nice day or thank you for

1224
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,040
listening.
That's what I said.

1225
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
And I'm yeah, I, I comment on
that one too, because they, they

1226
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,320
said we were being hypocrites.
I'm like, we're not being

1227
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,600
hypocrites.
We're having a conversation like

1228
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,760
right, Nothing hypocritical
about it.

1229
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,880
We're not.
It was purely conversation.

1230
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,920
How?
Do you feel about that the first

1231
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,000
time being a musician?
This is a great question for

1232
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,800
William Real quick.
OK, How do you feel about him

1233
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,120
having his own halftime show for
the first time ever in the

1234
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,960
history of the Super Bowl?
We're going to use music as a

1235
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,160
weapon and split, try to divide
the country down the middle.

1236
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,840
That pissed me off.
I thought that was bullshit.

1237
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,440
Thank you.
OK.

1238
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:30,400
And I, I think the, it's funny
that we're talking about Kid

1239
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,360
Rock right now, like in 2026,
but I remember being in 8th

1240
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:41,200
grade and having a friend of
mine bring me his like second

1241
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,840
cassette tape ever.
And he's like, oh, you'll love

1242
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,800
this.
You'll love this is so good.

1243
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,960
And there's a song on it.
He talks about going down on

1244
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,040
girls.
You'll love it.

1245
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,720
And I was like, I put the tape
in and I was like, this is, I

1246
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,080
mean, this is garbage.
Like just was horrible.

1247
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,680
And then he put out another
album that was supposed to be

1248
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,840
better and I've never heard
about him.

1249
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,840
And then Devil Without a Cause
came out and I was like, is this

1250
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,600
the same guy?
I was like, it's the same name.

1251
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,160
I was like, there's no way that
these guys can be the same guy.

1252
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,120
And sure enough, it was.
And I didn't like that album.

1253
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,840
I didn't like his music.
But eventually I was like, you

1254
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,760
know what?
And this is the same way I feel

1255
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,720
about any musician who's ever
made it at any kind of level.

1256
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,200
At some point, my jealousy or my
whatever I think about their

1257
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,480
music, right?
It just has to go by the

1258
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,760
wayside.
And I have to respect the fact

1259
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,160
that they kept at it and kept at
it and kept at it until they

1260
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,160
finally got to this point that
every musician wants to be at

1261
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,880
every singer, every rapper,
every guy with a acoustic guitar

1262
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,240
playing a barbecue joint on the
side of the road like.

1263
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Well, here's what cracked me up
real quick.

1264
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,720
Yeah.
Everybody was all I kept hearing

1265
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040
is, you know, why is he going to
sing in Spanish?

1266
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,480
Why, why can't it be in English,
English, English, English?

1267
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,640
And I watched the Kid Rock
performance because I need to

1268
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,240
know what I'm dealing with,
right?

1269
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:14,200
So when they opened up with BA,
with the BA, I'm like, you're

1270
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,120
bitching about somebody not
speaking English and you're

1271
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,720
watching a performance and they
literally started with a song

1272
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,040
that means that it's not even a
fucking word.

1273
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,600
Exactly.
It's BA with the BA, it's a,

1274
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,200
it's a beat, right?
Yeah, yeah.

1275
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,680
It came from a rap song like at
7879.

1276
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,160
I put my hand on my face and I
just started laughing.

1277
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
I'm like, this is where we're
at.

1278
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
This is how people think, right?
OK, I give up.

1279
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,240
You know you.
Can't have a world.

1280
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,400
But yeah, you can't have a world
anymore without controversy.

1281
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,000
Nothing can exist without
controversy.

1282
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,600
You have to pit sides against
each other.

1283
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,720
Look at the media.
The media doesn't show anything

1284
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,760
positive anymore.
They they pick and choose.

1285
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,560
They're picking and choosing.
Their, their ice, ice, ice, ice,

1286
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,040
ice.
But Trump's, Trump's and I'm not

1287
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,240
getting political.
Trump's approach to, to illegal

1288
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:07,880
immigrants is, is, is harsh, but
every president has done it.

1289
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,720
Every single president before
him has done it.

1290
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,720
Every single one has deported
illegal immigrants without

1291
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,840
exception, right?
Trump, Trump just does it in a

1292
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,040
way that pisses everybody off.
And I'm not political.

1293
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,040
I'm not defending anybody.
Obama deported Mike and I had a

1294
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,040
show about this he probably
50-60 episodes ago.

1295
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,440
We we broke down the level of
deportations per President Obama

1296
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,120
crushed them all, right?
All of.

1297
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:31,640
Them.
Yeah, You.

1298
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200
You.
Can't without exception, without

1299
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,760
exception.
So, so you watch the news and I

1300
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,000
don't watch the news because all
the news is, is click bait.

1301
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,160
It's just here's a little
snippet of this chaos and they

1302
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,600
want people to react and and
thread comments and views and

1303
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,360
instead of here's the entire
story, Here's the pros, here's

1304
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,680
the cons, here's the summary,
here's the resolution.

1305
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,840
They're like garbage, garbage,
garbage, garbage because they

1306
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,040
want people feeding them, you
know, garbage in, garbage out.

1307
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,920
There's no, there's no rational
conversations anymore on those

1308
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,560
threads because it's like we
talked earlier.

1309
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,280
James had felt having a
conversation with President

1310
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,480
Trump.
But you go to the very last

1311
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,880
line.
It's like, this would be great

1312
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,880
if it happened, but it didn't.
But all they see is the first

1313
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,960
paragraph.
But then there's 800 comments of

1314
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,160
people arguing about this thing
that never really happened, and

1315
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,520
that's what they believable.
And they had to click on that,

1316
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,920
which, which gave the the
visibility and in a lot of

1317
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,640
cases, you know, monetization of
that post and, and that and

1318
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,760
that, you know, user who's
probably not even a real human.

1319
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,560
I know I've seen, you know, the
same kind of story like posted,

1320
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,040
I don't know how many times.
And the actual words that are

1321
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,440
being said, the actual
conversation is exactly the

1322
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,080
same, but it's with different
people.

1323
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:56,840
Yep.
Right.

1324
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:02,040
So it might be Troy Aikman with
the girls on the View where it

1325
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,440
might be, you know, Donald Trump
with this and that.

1326
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,440
And it's just I, I, I just don't
understand why someone has

1327
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:15,440
interest and not not reading
about that, but like creating

1328
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,960
that.
It's like to create such shit

1329
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,479
and put it out like times, I
don't know, 100 million people.

1330
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Yep.
I'm more concerned about much

1331
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,520
better off.
I'm more concerned about the

1332
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,960
people that are easily led by
that, though, you know, at least

1333
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,439
the person that's putting it out
there.

1334
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,720
He's ambitious and you know,
that requires effort and work.

1335
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,439
It's a lot of work, you know,
ask Chris, right?

1336
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,399
Like to keep all this stuff
moving requires both of us

1337
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,200
splitting everything right down
the middle.

1338
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,560
And then there's weeks where we
barely make it, you know,

1339
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,920
because we both have full time
jobs on top of it.

1340
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,560
So I agree with you, but I
always give a little bit of

1341
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,520
credence to the person that has
effort, right?

1342
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,279
Even if it's evil, I'm always
trying to look at the good side

1343
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:05,120
and I'm like, if he would just
use that for this, he would be

1344
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,840
so great, you know?
And that's my point is if they

1345
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,680
were able to take that
creativity and that that

1346
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,960
hustler's spirit.
But the fact is, 800 people

1347
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,279
arguing underneath about
something that doesn't even

1348
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,560
exist, they worry me so much.
Yeah.

1349
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,000
And and that's the problem with
this kind of social media age,

1350
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:28,960
is that it it gives it, it gives
people who deserve a voice of

1351
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,080
voice, but it also gives people
who should keep their fucking

1352
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,200
mouth shut a voice.
Yeah, that's what people hear

1353
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,840
from me a lot when they say
something that I know is utterly

1354
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,359
ridiculous.
I'm like, get the fuck out of

1355
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:40,680
here, you know?
Right.

1356
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:44,399
And unfortunately believe that
gives those people the loudest

1357
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:46,040
voice.
Those are the ones that speak

1358
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,439
the loudest.
True.

1359
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:49,640
Yeah.
Alright boys.

1360
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,240
Alright boys and girls, we got
to wrap this up to find William

1361
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,040
Chandler the William
xavierchandler.com.

1362
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,360
It's the William xavier.com.
OK, the William xavier.com,

1363
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,080
because when you pull it up,
your last name's on there too.

1364
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,040
So the William xavier.com has
all the stuff, has the links.

1365
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,960
It's got his blog, Instagram
page.

1366
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,960
I think it probably it takes you
to the ability to buy the books.

1367
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,680
I said that fast three times,
right?

1368
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,120
It does.
So all in one.

1369
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,720
I followed you by Chris and
Mike.

1370
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,920
So subscribe to your newsletter.
I expect awesome things from

1371
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,240
you, Wilma William.
Thank you, thank you.

1372
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Hey, just being able to sit here
with you guys.

1373
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,000
You know, this is this is one of
those things that you do and you

1374
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,400
build relationships and you
know, I, I can't wait till I'm

1375
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,400
going to your state, Chris and
having a book sign in and, and

1376
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,240
stepping off and I'll stop off.
And see you.

1377
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,120
I'll come and I'll have you on
the shelf.

1378
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,240
It's a Tuesday.
Or a Friday.

1379
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,600
Absolutely.
Exactly.

1380
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,760
It'll be awesome.
So yeah.

1381
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,640
Him and I have talked about that
to have like, I look forward to

1382
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,000
this all day, man.
You.

1383
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:57,080
I kept telling people, yeah, I
always know that with you on the

1384
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,040
show, we're the least smart
people in the group, right?

1385
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,320
And I mean that affectionately.
I do.

1386
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,080
I just.
I look forward to it because

1387
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,440
you're well spoken.
You have great ideas.

1388
01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:13,280
The questions that I asked of
you, I was, you know, pleasantly

1389
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,600
surprised by your answers,
shocked in a couple.

1390
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,240
You know, I thought maybe you'd
go the other way.

1391
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,440
So I really look forward to
this, and I'm glad you came

1392
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,880
back.
So I wish you success with your

1393
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,600
book.
And I'll be buying both of them

1394
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,120
because they're both right up my
alley.

1395
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,880
So, and then, and then, so when,
when, when the next one's

1396
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,680
getting ready to come out,
you're obviously coming back on.

1397
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,000
So I can talk about that one.
Definitely.

1398
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,880
Yeah.
Yeah, if you'll have me.

1399
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:35,320
Absolutely.
I'm straight.

1400
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,800
So remember, boys and girls, if
you're feeling sorrow, sad,

1401
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,040
depressed, suicidal, don't do
it.

1402
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,000
Tomorrow's a better day with you
waking up in it.

1403
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,080
Don't leave a hole in somebody
else's heart because you choose

1404
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,640
not to.
You know, go through your

1405
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,840
struggles.
Go run, go scream, go journal,

1406
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,800
go work out.
Go find somebody to talk to you.

1407
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,000
If you can't text 988.
Somebody's there standing by to

1408
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,280
help talk you off that ledge and
get you back in the right state

1409
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,200
of mind.
Tomorrow is a better day with

1410
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,320
you in it.
So remember that.

1411
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,520
For Chris, I'm Chris.
He's Mike.

1412
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,760
And for William Chandler, the
author, the William xavier.com,

1413
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,200
check them out.
Until next time, Peace, love you

1414
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,720
brother.
Thank you, guys.

1415
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,280
Thank.
You thank you for your time man.

1416
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,600
It's appreciated man.
Time.

1417
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:12,520
Thank you.
Viable.

1418
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,520
Nothing but love, man.
Best of luck too.

1419
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:35,480
Same here man, thanks.
On your journey, the place where

1420
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:42,000
you will go and feel the trail
behind your eyes.

1421
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:50,560
Feel yourself and need yourself.
Take a moment.

1422
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,080
Look.
Until you see him fight the

1423
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,480
battle.
That's you most weird.

1424
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,720
Fight the battle.
Who is this baby?

1425
01:14:06,780 --> 01:14:24,320
The.
Now you're coming come down

1426
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,680
here.
We haven't bounced all this and

1427
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,240
see the sand and he's fun
fighting.

1428
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,120
Wait for the dead or.
When he's going to arrive here

1429
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:39,720
for?
The wind, he ain't no creature.

1430
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,280
We don't pray and smile.
You should.

1431
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:48,000
You put it on the almighty man.
You got a dream.

1432
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,240
Who in your life?
The people.

1433
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:58,240
Soul in every man.
Take the trip behind your eyes.

1434
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,680
Feel the soul revolution now.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1435
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:13,240
yeah, yeah.
Take a moment.

1436
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,680
Listen to you.
See it.

1437
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,440
But your bail into you more
clear.

1438
01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:49,770
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.

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