#122 - Justin Willoughby - 600 Pounds Down

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So with this day again and
welcome to the show, We have

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Justin Willoughby.
Justin's like, Justin's gonna

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give us a little a little FYI
about who he is, what he's all

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about.
And then we're gonna dive deep

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in this amazing, stimulating,
engaging conversation that all

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the world wants to see and hear.
All the world.

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All the world that is, that is.
21 countries.

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Man 21 countries.
That's like almost all the world

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well.
Right.

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Man, so the Chris and Mike show
got to watch a couple of your

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episodes guys.
And you guys some good things

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going, bro.
Good stuff, good stuff, a lot of

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organic conversation.
Well, thanks for having me on as

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a guest.
I'm Justin.

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I'm a success coach with
Energized Health and also with

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£600 down.
So I do multi platform, you want

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to call it work?
I actually, so I'm a health guy.

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When I say success coach, that
means a health guy, right?

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So I lead people through a
program that helps them shed

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fat, gain health, gain hydration
to their cells and outside their

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cells, and also just transforms
their life, mind, body and

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spirit.
Now I, I have a passion for that

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because of my story and we'll
I'm sure going to get into that

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and everything.
But man guys, I dropped like

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£600 in my life, £600.
That's insane.

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That is crazy.
That's why you're here, because

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I want to hear the story.
Absolutely.

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So I've been there, done that,
right?

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So I, so I burst a passion out
of that.

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And when you live through
something, as you guys are

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aware, as you've gone through
your own challenges in your own

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life, you live through
something, you overcome it and

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now you're passionate and you're
excited about it.

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And then you say, I see others
who are trapped in the same

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snare and I want to help them
out of it.

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So that's what I do today.
I just help people out of their

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trap, out of their food
addiction and out of things that

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they're struggling with their
health.

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Nice.
So let's, let's so and I so I

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completely respect that because
I'm one of those big believers.

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Like all the years I've worked
out, the trainers need to be in

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shape.
Like I'm not going to listen to

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you unless you're in shape.
If you're coming in with a Jelly

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doughnut roll, you know, and,
and an extra chin.

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And it's like, I'm sorry, you
have, you have no credibility

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with me because you need to be
in shape because those who work

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out, they're aspiring to be that
trainer.

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And, and what drives me nuts at
EOS Fitness, because I go there

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now there's this one trainer.
All he does is talk like I watch

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him and for the half an hour
like like free training, 20

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minutes of him is 20 minutes of
it is him running his mouth and

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you hear all his political
views.

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I, we've heard him tell women
having a discussion about the

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abortion and the rights related
with that.

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And we're like, dude, you're a
dude.

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You have no say in that.
Like just shut up right?

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But all this guy does, he just
runs his mouth the whole time to

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where's if if I actually went
and didn't know anything and I

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and it got my free training
session, I'd be pissed if I got

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paired up with that guy because
legit they'll sit, they'll do

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one Rep like 6 reps and then
they'll sit and the dude will

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just run his mouth the whole
time.

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And then it's like really, I go
through three sets on the

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machine next to him and I'm up
and over and they're still on

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that same one with just one set.
So kudos to you for actually,

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which is where we're going to go
with this is is you lived a

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super unhealthy lifestyle and
you made a drastic change.

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And and Mike knows I don't call
it diet because diets fail.

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It's a lifestyle, It's a
lifestyle change.

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It's it's a new approach.
It's whatever you want to call

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it.
But I've never been been been a

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big believer in diets because
diets are trends.

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Diets are multi billion dollar
empire that just you get people

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on the board and then you know,
Ozempic, right, all the bad

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stuffs coming out now about
Ozempic, but everybody's like,

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oh, Ozempic and then you see
people putting the way back on.

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Why?
Because it's not a lifestyle

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change.
It's got to be a mental

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transformation that happens in
in your life, right?

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I mean, you, you can, I mean,
I've heard people go on diets

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where they just, I mean, they're
eating whatever they want to

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eat, just lesser portions.
But however, what we see there

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is that people aren't getting
healthy.

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It's one thing to lose weight or
fat.

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It's another thing to actually
gain health and lose fat.

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So there's there's that.
We're trying to, we're trying to

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maneuver that that way.
But kudos to you on that soapbox

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about that trainer man.
Like that's a real deal thing,

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Juris.
Right, yeah, and and and yeah

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and I vocalized it a little bit,
which, you know, wasn't a very

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good.
It's a great but but it but it

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but it's true though.
I mean, I get if you're.

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Well, look, you wouldn't go to a
vocal coach and show up and the

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guy can't carry a tune in a
bucket.

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Go, yeah, this guy can make me a
better singer.

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Chris can already sing, right?
So if he showed up and the guy

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was tone deaf, I got to move on.
It's the same concept.

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It is the same.
If the guy weighs 300 lbs

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telling you that you have to get
more motivated, it's real hard

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to take him seriously, even if
he's great at his job.

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He might be a wonderful coach,
but I agree with Chris.

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If I looked at him, I'm thinking
I'm already not overweight,

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right?
I'm probably not in the greatest

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shape.
So I agree with Justin in that I

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couldn't go run a mile right
now.

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I look like I could, and there's
a difference.

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He's right.
Yeah, yeah.

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I was, I was listening to your
last episode with Steve Feldman,

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which my boy Steve.
I love Steve, man.

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He's a great guy.
It was.

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Fun.
That was a great, great episode.

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Amazing what's happening in his
life and just the just the

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opportunities he's had to help a
lot of people and his faith has

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been so great to lead him
through.

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And he's just a little hunger to
reach people, which I love.

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But shout out to Steve.
Love you, man.

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But hey, Steve.
Hey, Steve.

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But so I hear that Chris likes
to work out now, Mike, you're

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more of like the outside guy.
Let me go out and do things, not

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just like in.
A drive his car super fast.

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Yeah, I mean, I like being
outside to an extent.

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I'm definitely not.
I don't know.

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I wouldn't be considered an
outdoorsman, but.

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But you like monkey business.
You're more of like, I don't

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want to be in a gym.
You do things more correct.

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Yeah, I would go walk.
If, you know, if somebody wanted

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to go walk, I would go do things
like that, go to the woods, you

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know, hike, things like that.
I would be fine with things like

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that.
I'm just not a go to the gym and

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pump myself up with muscles or
whatever.

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You know, that's not my
motivation.

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Sure, and you can do a lot of
things like I think that you

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were saying in the last episode
too about, you know, going for

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hikes and things like that.
So I just wanted to double check

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that was you and and Chris,
you're the guy.

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You're the guy that likes to go
to the gym, but you can find.

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I'm I We do everything like my
wife and I paddle board, we

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hike, we trail run, we do
regular St. running.

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You definitely like being
outside too.

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For yeah, I, I, I like
everything that's physically

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challenging.
Like I live on an acre, so

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there's, I have a tractor,
obviously when I mow my lawn.

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So I'll actually grab the grass
bags from the furthest point of

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my yard and diagonally walk all
the way across, just holding

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them out like this because it's
a workout, right?

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It's engaging the core and you
know, or I'll have the big red,

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you know what is 100 gallon
garbage can I'll fill up and

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I'll have it behind my head
walking across the yard because

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it's a workout.
So even though I I'll spend 3

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hours outside doing yard work,
it's legit.

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I make sure that as much of it
possible is manual labor.

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You're purposely making the job
as hard as possible, right?

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I mean, I do stupid things like
that, too.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Because you know that you're
already sweating.

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You got your heart rate up.
You might as well take advantage

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of it.
Exactly.

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Intentionality is key
intentionality and I find that

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to be the same with me.
I mean the old, the old sayings

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that people said to get more
activity and they say go park at

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the the furthest part of the
parking lot to walk into the

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store.
Like that's an easy one.

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But even the other day I was
going to an appointment and I

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just remember my old self when I
was so large, which we'll get

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into here momentarily.
But I remember being the guy

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that would that I would just
avoid stairs.

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I would avoid every long
distance thing I could in the

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world.
And that actually motivates me

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to make sure that I don't do
that anymore.

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So like now.
There's something I do do,

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Justin.
If their stairs are an

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escalator, I'm always going to
take the stairs.

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Yeah.
Yeah, I'm the same way.

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I'm the same way.
I don't, I don't.

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Elevators and escalators are for
wussies.

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Shout out to the wussies out
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Don't take that literally, but
no, I I'm the same way.

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Like we go on when we go on
vacation, Nikki and a wherever

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we go for on the 10th floor.
I I'll take the stairs at least

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once a day and she'll take the
elevator.

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But I'm just I'm, you know, but
that's my insanity.

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That's that's the addict in me,
right, Because what was all

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about alcohol transformed into
that.

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So something else had to take
over that, that thing and

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straight up, I see something
that works.

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There's tunnel vision.
Like I don't, I don't waver like

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our show.
As soon as I started realizing

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dropping three shorts a day was
going to be more make us more

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relevant and have more people
driven to our page and, and

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subscribing and viewing.
I haven't stopped that because

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it's like, well, that works.
So that's why I equate

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everything to lifestyle.
It's not a diet.

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It's not, you know, you're, it's
a lifestyle change.

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You have to shift like
consistency, right, right.

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Consistency habits and, and
committing to doing it.

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Like you said, Justin, it's
everything.

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It's, it's mental, it's
physical, it's it's audio, it's

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the, the curses and the, and the
triggers and shit.

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You have to be aware of all that
stuff when you're going towards

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a change in your lifestyle
because it's going to have an

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impact on all different levels,
right, Right. 100% man yeah,

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yeah, you live and learn that as
you go You and it's a muscle

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that's developed I feel like
it's harder to develop that

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muscle than it is developed like
a bench press or it's harder to

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develop a you know, this is this
is the real deal.

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You have to, you have to
actually grow the commitment and

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discipline muscle for it to
work.

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And it just gets gets better and
it grows the more and more you

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actually say no to things and
the more and more you actually

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strategically place those things
that might require a little more

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effort, like taking the stairs
or like you were saying, grab

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something and carry it for a
distance.

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That develops A discipline
needed and it just kind of

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escalates from there.
Right.

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Absolutely.
And you feel better.

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You feel better when you, when
you've sweat, you know, for an

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hour a day, it's just, you know,
you just at least I do anyway.

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Well, and I think the key to
that following up is it sucks

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every time, right?
Nobody really enjoys that 100%.

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The enjoyment is the result that
you get out of it.

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You have to, you have to learn
that sometimes the reward is

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delayed, right?
You get a delayed reward in that

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if you do it consistently in a
month, you're going to look

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better.
In three months, you're going to

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look better and more
importantly, you're going to

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feel better.
Right.

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Yeah, that's that's perfect.
That's perfect.

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Longevity is the game here.
Longevity is the game.

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Everything so so let's let's
dive into your life.

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Justin.
What?

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You weren't born 600 lbs.
So what happened man?

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Can you imagine if I was?
Right.

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Poor mom.
Oh my God, you would be here.

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Oh, guys, yeah.
I, you know, I, my family was

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amazing.
They loved me growing up.

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I mom, dad and I had a brother
and they were very loving

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people.
But one thing that we weren't is

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we weren't wise on food
selections.

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We grew up on government
assistance.

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We grew up poor and poverty.
Mom had a job.

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My dad retired early because of
some back issues, you know, so

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there was some, there was not a
lot of income coming into my

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house.
And, and I see a lot of in

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America right now, those who
might be in a poverty level or

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receiving assistance from the
government.

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There's a lack of desire to care
for yourself, a lack of desire

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to take care of what healthy
foods are into your body.

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So I grew up like that guy.
We had hot dogs at every meal

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almost, and ramen noodles and
white bread and all the

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margarine.
You know, you give me, I mean,

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give me some poison right now.
So it felt like back then I I

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loved it, But but today I look
back and like, holy cow, I'm

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still here.
But that's type of home I grew

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up in.
We didn't really, we didn't

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encourage activity very much.
I mean, yeah, I had friends that

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I played football with here and
there, but honestly, it wasn't

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enough activity to really burn
calories and and prevent the

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weight gain that was happening
in my life.

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So I grew up a big kid, My
brother was a, my brother was

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somewhat a bigger guy.
Not too bad.

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My parents, my mom's side of the
family is more obese.

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My dad's side of the family was
pretty thin.

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Just a little dad bod going on
there.

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So that was my setting, but I
had an attraction to food beyond

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a healthy level, beyond a
healthy limit.

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And so I remember just thinking
about when I went to bed, what

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am I going to eat tomorrow?
I thought about our once a month

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treat because we were on
assistance.

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We didn't buy a lot of food out
because it was just too

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expensive for us.
And so my mom on payday would

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say, all right, we have, you
know, XYZ, so let's go have

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something fun.
So I remember just thinking the

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month, hey, what are we going to
have?

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Maybe McDonald's, maybe Burger
King, maybe maybe Pizza Hut,

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something like that.
That would really tickle my

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taste.
And I just remember thinking

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about that stuff, gorging myself
when we had the opportunity

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because I craved it.
And then those foods, of course,

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the foods that we consume, they
if you think about it, they are

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created to tickle the taste bud.
Yeah, they're creating the taste

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buds.
So they they hold us in

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captivity in some way saying
this is so good, I want more.

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It's like a brainwash thing.
And our it's a dopamine hit in

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the brain.
And we're like, I need more of

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that.
You guys probably can relate to

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that.
You guys have a food that y'all

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like.
Remember that you did that.

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Even even more so, we had, we've
had some health folks on and I

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don't remember if it was a Nate
Palmer, the physical fitness

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guy, or if it's Peter Ho the the
health Wellness coach, but I

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think it was Nate.
But he talked about McDonald's

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hamburgers and how they're
designed to be consumed in two

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bites.
And and because they're designed

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to be consumed in two bites, you
eat them faster.

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So as you eat it faster, then
you're still hungry because it

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hasn't had a chance to actually
do anything in your stomach,

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which is why then you go back to
the counter and get a Big Mac or

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whatever the case may be
because.

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And the fact there's no
nutritional value.

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Right.
It's completely unnutritional.

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They had I saw something, I
don't know if it's you or not.

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Somebody had a McDonald's bag
that was 20 years old and inside

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it was a hamburger and fries.
You did right.

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That was a trip, right.
There was no condiments on the

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burger or cheese.
It was just two buns in the

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Patty and the fries.
The fries still kind of looked

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intact.
They were all they were darker

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brown, like they were little
over fried.

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And the burger itself was, was
the the thickness of like for

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those of you who aren't aren't
can't see us like a thickness of

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1/4 right.
It, it shrunk a little bit, but

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it was still intact.
The bun was still intact 20

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years later.
It that's just, and it was still

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wrapped up in the stuff that to
me was just absolutely

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disgusting.
Like, are you kidding me?

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So I don't know if it was real
or not, because it's so hard to

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tell nowadays what's real and
what's not real.

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Well.
But one thing that we've talked

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about with those same two people
is the difference in the amount

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of ingredients that were in.
There's a classic example, you

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can Google it right now.
Look at the ingredients in a

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McDonald's French fry from 1970
and the ingredients today.

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There was like 4 ingredients in
1970, might have been three.

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It might have been just salt
potatoes and whatever.

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Oh no, there was the beef stock.
Cuban.

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Tallow, tallow.
Thank you.

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Yeah.
Now there's like 10 ingredients

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in those same French fries, and
they don't taste good anymore,

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like that same craving that we
had when we were kids.

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I don't have that for a
McDonald's French fry anymore.

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I've tried them several times in
the last year.

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It just, it doesn't do it for me
anymore.

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And that's why there's chemicals
in there that we're not supposed

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to be consuming.
Right.

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They removed it, removed the
tallow in 1990, replaced it with

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vegetable oil, with beef
flavouring.

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But it's not telling me what?
Oh, it's a video.

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I'm not watching the fry fax
video.

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It's telling me what the
ingredients were.

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I've typed in ingredients in
McDonald's French fries in 1970,

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but it didn't.
It didn't want to show me.

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Oh, they changed, That's the
thing, correct?

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We we made things.
OK, so instead, OK, here's one

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not to interrupt you.
Here's one that says in, in, in

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75 they had three ingredients.
That's what I thought, which was

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potatoes, beef tallow and salt.
Now it's nineteen ingredients,

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but I can't.
I can't.

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Find what?
Right, but I can't find what the

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19 ingredients are.
It doesn't matter.

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That's the point.
Now I know I.

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Know it's insane.
It's insane.

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Oh, let's see.
Let's see.

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You probably can't even
pronounce them.

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Here's OK, here's all nineteen
ingredients.

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OK, so Oh my God, behind the
fry, they call it.

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They're going to drop.
OK, Potatoes.

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Shocking salt.
Yay.

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Canola.
Canola.

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Oh my, I can say that.
Canola oil, Corn, corn oil,

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because let's have two oils.
Soybean oil.

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Let's have 304 hydrogenated
soybean oil, natural beef

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flavor, hydrolyzized wheat,
HYDROYLYZED.

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Is that hydrolysized wheat?
Hydrolyzized milk?

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Dextrose, sodium acid,
phosphates.

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Oh pryop.
Wow what the Frick is that word?

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Pry sulfate?
Citric acid.

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Oh my God this is hard one dithi
Dithiopoloxasaxine.

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It's an anti foaming agent
because God forbid the Fry's

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foam this one.
Why does?

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That stuff need to be in a
French fry.

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I don't know, I'm only on 14
TBHQ which is territory.

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Butyl hydrocholine, whatever the
hell, mono and diglycerides

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levanning, which is a sodium
bicarbonate, disodium dihydrogen

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pyrophosphate, BHA which is
butylated hydroxyzole.

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And then your 19th ingredient is
anato.

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What?
If it's a color.

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Wow, I.
Think yeah, that's a lot.

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Why does that have to be in a
French?

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Fry, I don't, I don't know.
And and and.

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Wow.
Well, those oils are, think

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about it, all those oils, they
are inflammatory, especially if

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they're heated temperatures,
they're inflammatory, which then

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creates inflammation in the
body, which leads to heart

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disease, cancers and other types
of diseases that people are

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dying prematurely from.
So we need to be more wise.

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And I, I kind of like not to get
political, but RFK coming into

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the game and trying to change
some things that needs to

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happen.
Whatever side you flow on,

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whatever.
I just think there needed to be

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a change.
The fact they're taking the dyes

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out, if that really happens,
that's a huge first step.

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I agree with you.
Yeah, huge.

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It needs to that needs to be
something revisited.

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But anyway, I grew up with that
so I don't think I was in a beef

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tallow days though I.
How old are you?

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So I'm 30.
Eight.

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I'm 30.
Eight.

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OK, OK.
Yeah.

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And when did you start your
transformation journey?

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I was 16, So what, 22 years ago?
22 years.

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So how much did you weigh at 16?
Man, so I topped the scale.

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So because of my habits and
everything and food addiction

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plus anxiety because I had a lot
of anxiety attacks too and I I

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thought I was dying.
My heart would just like.

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Pound on my legs, man.
Oh bro that is so mad.

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It's I didn't know what it was
and I don't think anybody knew

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what it was.
Bad.

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You're dying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're over

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like this is it, This is the big
one.

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But found out it was anxiety
disorder and put me on some

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medications which didn't really
do anything.

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It's kind of a Band-Aid over the
wound type thing and I had to

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cope with it other ways.
But I because of food addiction

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and because of anxiety and
depression, I ballooned up in

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weight at 16.
So I will call the 14 age 14 and

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16 would be the two years I
started really putting on a

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large amount of weight and
that's when I weighed.

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They took me to Pittsburgh, PA
by ambulance from my house

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because I was so large.
There's like something you see

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on My 600 LB Life, right?
OK, yeah.

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And I've watched that.
That's why that's what

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originally intrigued me about.
She was oh, this is going to be

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a good conversation.
OK, so you weighed £600?

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I weighed more than that.
I was when I weighed me in.

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I was eight.
I was 799.

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So I was wonderful.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I'm laughing at it.

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Look at me.
Yeah.

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Yeah, guys.
I can't, yeah, to look at you

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can't even imagine.
So if you're just listening to

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this, go tune into either
YouTube or Spotify, get the

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video, because you would not
believe that this guy could be

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that.
That just fascinates me, man.

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What do you weigh now?
I weighed in this morning at

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211.6.
How tall are?

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You Yeah, I'm 58, maybe a little
bit over that.

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OK, Yeah.
So they would still categorize

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me as obese.
OK.

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So that, that's something that I
look at.

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But here's a problem with the
body mass index.

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They don't factor in muscle.
They don't factor in fat, muscle

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00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,880
and hydration to the body.
What they do factor in is your

451
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,320
total metric, your total sum of
weight and your height.

452
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,760
And so if you look at it that
way, man, I have a scale that I

453
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,440
look at.
It's a bio and painting scale.

454
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,480
And what it does is it breaks
down the fat, it breaks down the

455
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,160
water and it breaks down the
muscle.

456
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,040
And I have some solid hydration
and some solid muscle.

457
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,000
And of course there's a little
bit extra fat that I still need

458
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,560
to lose.
Probably another 15 lbs would be

459
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,680
really good for me.
But yeah, I put on a lot of

460
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600
muscle the last couple of years,
guys, I've been really working

461
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,040
hard and kind of not worrying so
much about the scale anymore.

462
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,680
So yeah, my top weight was 799.
I was 16 years old, so that was.

463
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,200
Crazy.
Yeah.

464
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,800
How do so So this fascinates me
because it just does get can you

465
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520
take us back to a day in the
life when you're 16 weighing,

466
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,360
weighing 799 lbs, what your
typical day was like, if that's

467
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:40,360
possible?
Yeah, man, that that's before

468
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:46,520
everything, right, So right.
It really lethargic.

469
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,360
So I was a teenager.
I was, I knew it all.

470
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,760
I didn't care what anybody said,
my parents, whatever, you know,

471
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,440
like.
We were all that smart at that

472
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,680
age.
Yep.

473
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,000
Yep, Yep.
It's sometimes just kind of

474
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,320
keeps going, but we I definitely
was involved in video games a

475
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,360
lot.
Computer, I lived in a fantasy

476
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,560
land constantly.
I watched WWE or F back then.

477
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Were you very isolated?
I, I, I had friends, but they

478
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,280
would have to come and visit me,
right?

479
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,440
I couldn't go out and do things,
but you did.

480
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760
Socialize with other kids they
just watched.

481
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840
You online?
Online was my biggest like AOL

482
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Instant Messenger, ICQMSN
Messenger back in the day.

483
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,080
Those are my my, my chat
features that I used to talk to

484
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,840
people.
Yeah, I ate a lot of food.

485
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160
I mean, I I could wolf down a
whole bag of apples in one

486
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600
sitting if I wanted to.
How many bags?

487
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240
How many apples were in the bag?
12 What?

488
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,120
Do you think 9 or 10?
Maybe, Maybe 12.

489
00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,120
Yeah, there's usually 10 or 12
apples in a.

490
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Bag Yeah, so, so, so let's let's
kind of back up a little bit.

491
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,920
What I'm what I'm wanting to
kind of understand is like a

492
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,800
day.
So it's it's what time do you

493
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,280
wake up 6:00 in the morning?
Yeah, so I, I would sleep in.

494
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,280
No, I, I'm OK teenager I, I
didn't have any motivation to

495
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,280
get up anyway.
So unless it was the eat.

496
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,360
Right.
OK, so but that yeah, so you get

497
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,800
up, you how long does it take
you a typical day to actually

498
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,160
get up and move in and up and
around like you wait, here's a

499
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,160
10:00 and.
Yeah, 10, we'll say 10:00

500
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,080
roughly.
And I remember waking up and,

501
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,680
you know, I first have to use
the bathroom.

502
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600
I need some help.
My brother, he passed away two

503
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,240
years ago now.
I'm sorry to.

504
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,400
Hear that?
Yeah, He, he actually, he got

505
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,160
big himself from depression and
actually died of a heart attack

506
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,440
early.
He's like 40 years old,

507
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,440
unfortunately.
So yeah, but terrible.

508
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,280
My he he was a really big
godsend in my life when when I

509
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480
was so large.
Like I remember when I woke up

510
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,160
like 10 AM, my brother would
hey, bro, I need to use the

511
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,680
bathroom.
And I literally couldn't use the

512
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,560
bathroom by myself.
I had to have him hold.

513
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,640
I couldn't reach anything.
Like my arms are so small.

514
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,000
My gut was so big, I had to have
somebody hold like a urinal over

515
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,640
me so I could use the bathroom.
And then I had to, and I had to

516
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,440
use the, if I had to take #2
right, a bowel movement of any

517
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000
sort.
I had to have somebody hold

518
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960
something like a pan or
something for me to go in

519
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040
because I couldn't sit on a
toilet because we were so poor.

520
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,960
Our toilet didn't really support
my weight anyway.

521
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440
So he had to help me with that.
So he, he put up a lot with me.

522
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160
So I, you know, got the bathroom
business out of the way.

523
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Time to eat.
So eggs and sausage, A couple

524
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040
bagels.
How many eggs?

525
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,240
How many eggs I've?
Probably had, you know, I've

526
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240
probably had about 5.
I'm trying to remember, I think

527
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,120
like 5 to 6 eggs.
So not a ton, right?

528
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,760
I mean, I eat that today.
I don't care.

529
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320
I'm working out today.
But yeah, you mean like 5 or 6

530
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,400
or 8 pieces of sausage?
You're talking about the pork

531
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,160
sausage.
Maybe 2 bagels or six pieces of

532
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,600
toast.
And then that was just warm up.

533
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,400
Right now it's time for some
cereal.

534
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,240
So I would have a couple bowls
of cereal, usually Raisin Bran

535
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Basic 4.
This is all in the same setting.

536
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,800
It was within an hour and a half
from each other.

537
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,480
Yeah, from from that.
So I would graze a little bit

538
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320
and then go.
Two scoops of two scoops of

539
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,000
raisins, man.
That's right.

540
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,360
It's a vibrator, man.
So yeah, like, it was a lot of

541
00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:59,960
food.
And then I remember after that,

542
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,120
I just go back to my bedroom,
sit on my bed, watch some TV,

543
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120
play on my computer, do all
those things.

544
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720
And then lunch time came around
and I would probably walk down a

545
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,280
pack of hot dogs, like just a
ballpark Frank's or whatever, a

546
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720
whole pack by myself.
Would you cook them first?

547
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Sometimes I eat them raw.
Yeah, I'm a savage like that.

548
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Yeah, that's why I asked.
Yeah.

549
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520
So I would eat them raw or cook
them and I would have maybe four

550
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,400
or five buns with that and then
with that, like some Dutch

551
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,800
pretzels or maybe some ramen
noodles just kind of with that

552
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,000
as well.
Yeah.

553
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:36,360
And then we lived above the
convenience store and so, yeah,

554
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,040
man, it was great.
You're.

555
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720
Like next time you have me on
this show, I wanna be on a beast

556
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,400
guy again.
But anyway, I'm looking at

557
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,680
reminiscing here.
I would manipulate my brother.

558
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,520
He had autism and so he was easy
to manipulate.

559
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,480
And so I used manipulation to
steal money in my mom's purse

560
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,280
and go down to the store and
purchase me some Snickers or

561
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Milky Ways cappuccinos or pizza
or whatever, right.

562
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,240
And you think mom would think
where'll my money go?

563
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,160
But I don't know, maybe she was
careless of that.

564
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,120
So I, I took a lot of money out
of the and, or I would beg for

565
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,520
stuff at the same time.
So I would eat whatever, you

566
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,520
know, a couple of Milky Ways or
couple Snickers or something

567
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,440
like that with a cappuccino,
large cappuccino.

568
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,160
And then that was snack usually
after lunch or or the the mini

569
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,240
Mart pizzas that are out there
like somebody's convenience

570
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,600
stores have pizzas.
I would eat a whole one by

571
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,320
myself and sitting maybe aside
from one piece sometimes soda.

572
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,880
Mountain Dew Code Red was my
love.

573
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,240
I love that because it was red.
I would chug down like one or

574
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000
one of those a day here and
there.

575
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560
Yeah, I was a savage man.
I I just had such a addiction.

576
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760
And then dinner time came around
and that was probably my

577
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,920
healthiest meal.
My parents made a side salad and

578
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,920
I hate that.
And then we'd have probably some

579
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,720
sausage or hot dogs again or
hamburgers, and I would have two

580
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080
with the buns.
And we just have ice cream and a

581
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,680
lot of chips after with that and
a lot of ice cream after that.

582
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,920
So I was, if I were to go back
and guess the calorie amount,

583
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,080
yeah, consuming about 5000 is.
Yeah, that was my next question.

584
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
So yeah, 5 to 6000 easy with no
exercise.

585
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,800
But just like anybody, your body
required it at that time.

586
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
You couldn't have just stopped
doing that cold Turkey.

587
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480
You know, I probably could have
toned it down, but here's the

588
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,920
thing.
I was addicted and I love the

589
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,280
flavor of food and it was just
unhealthy.

590
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,800
It was, it was, I worshipped
food.

591
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,960
It consumed me instead of me
consuming it.

592
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920
And that's where I was at.
Yeah, the weird thing when my

593
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,560
wife and I, when we had Nathan
and Peter Ho on, we stopped, we

594
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320
stopped the bad starches.
So the breads, the tortillas,

595
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,040
you know, we, we already eat
pretty healthy as it is.

596
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,760
But I learned from that show
with those guys about the

597
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
gluten, how the starches can
cause inflammation, stuff like

598
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120
the nineteen ingredients and and
French fries, how many of those

599
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,840
are, are in are inflammation
causes, Right.

600
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200
So we stopped all that.
Well, the interesting thing when

601
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520
I, like I said earlier, when I
find something that works, I'm

602
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,080
just tunnel vision.
But when you'd ask the question

603
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480
about the cravings and stuff, it
didn't, nothing really came to

604
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,520
mind.
And then I thought about, well,

605
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,240
wait a minute.
Because I was so used to having,

606
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880
I would make a homemade burrito
every day.

607
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480
So it would be chickens and rice
or you know, ground beef and

608
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,640
rice with vegetables and stuff
like that.

609
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Because to me that was a healthy
alternative to the junk food

610
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,440
because I met a big junk food
guy, right.

611
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,280
But I'd also have a tortilla for
breakfast because I would make a

612
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,880
breakfast burrito.
Sometimes I'd throw it in a

613
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280
bowl, that type of thing.
So when we stopped all that

614
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,120
about a month or so into it,
then it's kind of that thing.

615
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,360
It's like, I and I don't, I
haven't even felt burritos in

616
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400
years, right.
But you drove by a Faberitos and

617
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,440
all of a sudden your brain is
like, oh, tortillas and tacos

618
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640
and cheese, you know what I
mean?

619
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,600
And but it which are so
unhealthy.

620
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Just had tacos again last night.
Right.

621
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,720
So it's an unhealthy thing to
pursue, but that that was the

622
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760
closest I could come to
something that was that

623
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,520
triggered a craving because I we
stepped away from all the

624
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,040
starches and the breads and the
tortillas and the chips and.

625
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,520
You know what though, when I was
eating those tacos last night, I

626
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600
literally thought to myself, I
know I'm Mexicans are some of

627
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,360
the happiest people on earth
because their.

628
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Food is.
So delicious it's like it is.

629
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,800
How can you not be happy when
you eat that every day?

630
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,080
Like when that's your.
Culture.

631
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Yeah.
And so that was the thing.

632
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120
That was the one thing that came
to mind as far as the craving.

633
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400
And then as we've all talked
about, you know, everything's in

634
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560
moderation.
So it's not bad to have tacos,

635
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,480
you know, once a week or every
other week because you're not,

636
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
it's not a consistent thing.
So everything in moderation can

637
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,360
be at some level.
It's when it becomes a habit,

638
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040
yeah, then an addiction.
Then we have a problem.

639
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,040
Well, you can make them
healthier too, that's the thing.

640
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Like I I can have tacos every
day if I wanted to.

641
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,480
I can.
Eat corn, Healthias and.

642
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Lean meats and, you know, a
little bit of.

643
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Dash.
And if you go to a true Mexican

644
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,880
restaurant, they try and push
the corn tortillas on you

645
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,480
because that's the way that
they've eaten them for, you

646
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800
know, thousands of years.
Yeah, Yeah.

647
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Flour is not healthy.
No.

648
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200
White flour you want to avoid.
I mean, even I remember the days

649
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,360
where I was I when I was still
mobile, I went with my friends

650
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,840
and we when Subway was around
when I was up in PA, we we ended

651
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,680
up getting, I'd go to Subway and
I'd buy 2 cold cut Subs.

652
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360
I would have the whole thing
like 2 foot right there with,

653
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,720
with two bags of chips and some
soda and then wake up in the

654
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,200
middle of the night because I
was spading out at his house.

655
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,720
I was still really large and so
I don't know how I got out and

656
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,120
everything, but I would.
Then he was selling candy bars.

657
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,080
I just remember the story.
He was selling dollar dude.

658
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,960
Yeah, midnight, 1:00 in the
morning.

659
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,600
I'm I'm searching through the
house out in their living room

660
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480
and, and I found the candy bars
and I just start I I think I had

661
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,480
$5 on me, so I just grabbed $5,
put it in there and I just, I

662
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600
think I even stole some.
Don't tell him that, but I think

663
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600
like there was that going on
confession time.

664
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,400
That's how addicted I was
though.

665
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Guys, it was crazy.
It was those were those white

666
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,560
candy brite.
The wrapper was white.

667
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000
They had a real thin like base
baseball or something.

668
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,360
I remember son of A.
Fundraiser.

669
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know exactly what you're

670
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,960
talking about.
Every now and then I still see

671
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800
him.
Crunch bar they had a crunch.

672
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
They had a peanut butter nougat
1 whatever I just one of each

673
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,440
please and origin right there I
I.

674
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,160
And you know, that's a whole
nother level of addiction,

675
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Justin.
And I've been there.

676
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
I'll admit it too.
When you've stolen, when you're

677
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,000
at your worst and you just have
to have something when you've

678
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,640
stolen to get it, that's a whole
nother psychological level of,

679
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,680
yeah, I am the biggest piece of
shit on the planet right now,

680
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,880
you know?
I feel like the same part.

681
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,200
It is.
It's horrible.

682
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360
I was still.
Is the power of the draw of?

683
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,800
It is.
What your brain I gotta have it

684
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,840
right?
I need that dopamine hit because

685
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
that's all it is at the.
End of the day, it kicks you

686
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360
man, it kicks you.
I remember even stealing lunch

687
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840
lunches out of the refrigerators
at work like I would.

688
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,960
I would work a part time job as
I was, it's overly large, but I

689
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800
was trying to get a job and do
those things.

690
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000
And I remember like stealing
food out of the refrigerator.

691
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,040
It was somebody's lunch.
And then they would come over

692
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,840
later and say, have you seen my
food?

693
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Absolutely not.
Like that's a.

694
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,640
Don't know what you're?
Talking about Pat in the belly,

695
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,000
No, I haven't seen it at.
All right, what food?

696
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Wipe my face off because I still
have some sauce on it.

697
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,440
Yeah.
That's crazy.

698
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,480
Yeah, it was bad.
So once.

699
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,360
So you're 16 years old, you're
obesely overweight, 799 lbs you

700
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,120
go.
You mentioned earlier your

701
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,440
ambulance to a hospital.
Yeah, So it was an insurance

702
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,240
thing.
I was so large and my parent, I

703
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,160
haven't been to a doctor in over
a year or so.

704
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760
And they were really on my mom
and dad's tail saying we got to

705
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,200
get you this, you got to get him
checked out.

706
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,040
He hasn't been checked out.
He had a physical in a long

707
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,040
time.
And so they were threatening

708
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200
legal actions.
I don't know how the whole thing

709
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,680
played out.
I don't know who exactly the

710
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,320
insurance company was doing this
or the doctor.

711
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440
I don't know exactly everything,
but I know there was some like

712
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,000
there was some type of concern
happening and there.

713
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Was some trouble early
neglecting you?

714
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160
They probably thought that I
think my parents just didn't

715
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,000
know how to parent me at that
time.

716
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
I think they were just like,
this is my baby, what do I do?

717
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Let's enable.
Him.

718
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000
But that's what the insurance
companies or the Doctor were

719
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320
insinuating.
At the I do, it's something

720
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,199
along those lines.
I would assume it's some kind of

721
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,159
abuse or and things like that,
like just they're neglecting

722
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,440
this individual.
And that's my assumption at

723
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,360
least.
Anyway, it was some kind of, it

724
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,520
could have been legal issues.
So we ended up having to go to

725
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,040
the doctor.
Well, I haven't been a doctor in

726
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,560
about two years ish.
A year and a half one, I think

727
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,400
it was about a year and a half.
Let's keep it safe with that.

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,600
It's been a little bit, but we,
I couldn't go cuz I couldn't

729
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,400
even fit in a car.
I don't remember how to even, I

730
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520
couldn't even walk that far.
I'd probably walk about 5 to 10

731
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,280
steps and have to get out of
breath and sit down.

732
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,400
So I remember they had to grab
me a wheelchair.

733
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,280
That was an extra extra large
wheelchair, huge wheelchair.

734
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239
I barely fit in.
They wheeled me up to a car

735
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,520
about 30 feet away from my back
door.

736
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,920
That's where my driveway was,
and then had to put me in a full

737
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,960
size Oldsmobile Intrigue.
They put me in the back.

738
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,040
My dad pushed me in.
I laid down the back seat and I

739
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
didn't fit.
And so he had to push the seats

740
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,720
up as much as possible and push
my leg in and quick and slam the

741
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,720
door very quickly or my foot
would have fell out.

742
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,400
So it was it was a very
uncomfortable five mile ride to

743
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,760
the doctor's office.
Got the wheelchair, went into

744
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,480
the doctor's office.
He saw me and he looks at me and

745
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,320
said and his face, he didn't
even say anything.

746
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,080
He just went and they actually
closed the closed the practice

747
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,360
down and had maybe the last
appointment.

748
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,800
So I came after hours.
So I was so insecure, didn't

749
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,920
want anybody to see me.
So he said, all right, come in

750
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,200
at this time.
We have a half a day, I think it

751
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,800
was 1230.
And so after lunch or whatever,

752
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,320
they closed down.
I go in on the last appointment

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,120
and then hear the his face was
like just shocked.

754
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,600
He didn't even say a word, just
shocked face.

755
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,240
Looked me up and down, said we
got to get him checked out,

756
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,280
checked my heart, checked for
fluid around the ankles, things

757
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
like that and said, all right,
we need to get him to a

758
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,320
hospital.
And so the next day an ambulance

759
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,600
came to my house from
Pittsburgh, or I don't know if

760
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,400
they were from Pittsburgh,
that's where they took me.

761
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,640
And because I was in a small
town, I was about four hours

762
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,040
away from Bradford, PA and from
Pittsburgh it's about four hour

763
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,240
drive.
So an ambulance came to my house

764
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,120
to take me to Pittsburgh
Children's Hospital and that's

765
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
when they weighed me in from
there, when they got me to

766
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,800
Pittsburgh and I was almost
£800.

767
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Wow.
Insane.

768
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:29,120
That's wow.
So from from like, how long did

769
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,880
it take you to actually get to
7?

770
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,720
I mean, you don't know because
you weren't waiting until you

771
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,720
were 16, but when you were 14,
you were obviously still heavy.

772
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,840
But we was it a gradual weight
increase over those 16 years or

773
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,840
was it something that all of a
sudden when you're 12, it's like

774
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,800
game on and within those four
you should pack on the weight?

775
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,120
So I remember, I remember it, I,
I was always a bigger kid.

776
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,920
But then growing up about 9th
grade, I went on the Atkins diet

777
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,480
and I just started eating meat
and cheese.

778
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,720
My parents were doing the same
thing and I actually dropped a

779
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,160
good amount of weight.
I was probably, I don't know

780
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,240
what I weighed, but I was, I was
definitely down in weight, not

781
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,120
skinny by any means, but
definitely healthier.

782
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,400
And 9th grade that year, that
was mid year because I went off

783
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
the Atkins diet and we started
eating whatever I wanted again

784
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,320
from there.
And then I think I was 15 and I

785
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,160
was in 9th grade, maybe, maybe
15.

786
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Yeah, around 15 almost, I would
say.

787
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,120
And then what was it?
14?

788
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120
I remember the age, but I was,
it was in 9th grade and I was

789
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
that was on that diet.
So I remember cooking class and

790
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,760
and the cooking teacher was
like, oh, you don't need

791
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,840
anything else but meat.
And I said, Nope, just meat

792
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,280
carnivore, if you will.
And then anyway, Long story

793
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,920
short, about a year and a half
ish a year and a quarter, I

794
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,360
ballooned a huge amount of
weight.

795
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,960
I, I don't even know how much
weight I put on, but I was

796
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,560
thinner.
And all of a sudden, I remember

797
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,640
when I was 16, it was in the
summer of 2003, I, I was waiting

798
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,080
in August 2003, I was waiting at
799.

799
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,000
So yeah, that, that was probably
a year and a half that I, I

800
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
ballooned up a good amount.
I was just a lot of gorging and

801
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,720
sitting and not moving.
I just anxiety took a big toll

802
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:06,000
on.
Me.

803
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,000
That's such a short amount of
time it was.

804
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,560
And how do you think the body,
how that's going to respond?

805
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,240
That's that's a big stressor,
right?

806
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,320
All of a sudden that's like.
That's interrupt you, but let me

807
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,160
ask you this real quick because
I'll I'll probably forget it.

808
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,040
Were you in pain?
Like from inflammation from

809
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,680
being that big?
I had hip issues, my hips were

810
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,360
bothering me.
My legs, I couldn't stand very

811
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,720
long.
So sitting was the most I I

812
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,800
alleviated, alleviated my pain
pretty well.

813
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,000
My sitting, I couldn't lay down,
couldn't breathe, so I had to

814
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,840
sit against the wall.
Remember sitting against the

815
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,760
wall at night sleeping and my
bed was.

816
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,800
Laid down to sleep.
I couldn't, I, I could, I could

817
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,640
wedge myself up.
So I was kind of sitting maybe

818
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,760
like that the most, but I would
sit against the wall.

819
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Well, I've sat against the wall
so much against my bed.

820
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,800
I had my bed and I sit against
the wall in my bed.

821
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600
The the drywall actually caved
in and made a hole because I was

822
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,240
leaning against it so many
nights in a row.

823
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,880
That is, yeah.
It was bad, man.

824
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,280
It was.
It was, but I didn't realize how

825
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,840
bad I'd become.
That's the problem.

826
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,720
Milk.
Because it happened so quickly.

827
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,560
Yeah, that's part of the problem
is I'm glad he asked that

828
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,320
question because that time span
is just mind blowing.

829
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,920
To go from, you remember in
junior high being a reasonable

830
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,840
size to now I'm a sophomore and
I'm 799.

831
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,760
Yeah, that's nuts.
I wish I remember the actual

832
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,160
weight I was.
I was probably high 200, maybe

833
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
almost 300.
So I was still a big kid, like I

834
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,480
said, but you know you.
You still packed on 405 hundred

835
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
pounds in like 4 1/2 months.
Yeah.

836
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,720
And, and there was, there was,
there was no trigger for that,

837
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,520
right.
It's just you just started, you

838
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,760
did the Atkins diet, you
stopped, and then you just went

839
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,120
back to your old habit.
Yes, I fell in love with food

840
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,960
again in an unhealthy way, and
that's what just it just clung

841
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,120
to that.
Yeah, and it's like, oh, that

842
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
dark mistress showed back up.
Yeah.

843
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680
So now when?
When you when you because we've

844
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
talked about some of the
cravings and stuff.

845
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,880
So like could you sit down and
eat like a an entire 8 inch

846
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,800
round three layer cake with no.
Problem yeah, I remember man,

847
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,360
it's like it's it's so funny to
talk about your past

848
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,840
experiences, especially if you
feel like part of me feels

849
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360
shameful about it but then I
remember how much of an example

850
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,920
this is and it can be fun I.
Have fun.

851
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,240
It's yeah, dude, it's a huge,
I'm just, I'm, I'm the same way.

852
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,520
Like it's, it has more value
coming from Someone Like You

853
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,320
who've been there done that and
it's completely turned your life

854
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,960
around.
Then somebody who, you know,

855
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,600
maybe they, they like, like I
could train people because at my

856
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
worst when I was drinking, I
was, I was 240 lbs.

857
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,200
So now and I'm six feet.
So 240 to 6 feet was, I was out

858
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,360
of shape.
I was unhealthy.

859
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Now I'm about 177 to 100, you
know, between 75 and 188, you

860
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,080
know, fluctuates, but I've been
there, done that.

861
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,880
So I have validity, I have
credibility.

862
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,040
If if someone asked me, hey, how
did you do that?

863
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,640
I, I tell them, right.
And so you have so much power

864
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,920
with your story and people need
to hear it because obesity,

865
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,480
America is one of the most obese
countries in the world.

866
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,880
So I love your story.
I love your approach to it.

867
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,800
So the other important part is
the fact that you can laugh

868
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,880
about it now because humor is
huge, right?

869
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200
You know, I'll out us and I do
it all the time.

870
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,720
Before we hit record here,
Justin was kind enough to call

871
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,840
Chris and I gentlemen, and he
just figured out.

872
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Why that was not?
The proper term, because we have

873
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,080
such a dark sense of humor from
where we both been.

874
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
We were both in very dark places
in different situations, right?

875
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:50,120
If you can't let go of that and
use it as a positive step

876
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640
forward, you're always going to
live in that place in the past,

877
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,680
right?
We can't talk about that.

878
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Well, now you're stuck there.
That's that's something you put

879
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,840
in a safe in the back of your
mind and you're you have to deal

880
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
with it eventually.
So I appreciate the fact that

881
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
you use humor.
Yeah.

882
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Oh, Mary Hart does good like
medicine.

883
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,680
That's that's an old scripture
reference that I would go to.

884
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Right.
So you got it.

885
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,520
You got to laugh and I think you
can't live in shame because

886
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640
that's your old you.
I mean, you, you can, you can

887
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,240
live in victory.
In victory, though, you don't

888
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:21,880
have to be a victim, right?
So yeah, I I probably, I could

889
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,880
probably slam down.
I mean, I think I remember a

890
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,680
birthday cake of the whole a
sheet cake.

891
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,440
It was a good size.
I don't remember the actual.

892
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,880
One of those, one of those sheet
cakes.

893
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,000
A sheet.
Yeah, the sheet.

894
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Cake.
That that would probably, I

895
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,080
don't know, feed maybe about 12
people or so yeah, for a decent

896
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,080
size, I mean, I'm talking like a
decent size piece.

897
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Sure I could, I could slam I
probably slammed about 3/4 of

898
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,080
that down because everybody else
had a piece too, right.

899
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,720
So I.
People's mothers would say there

900
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,720
better be leftovers.
Ain't no leftovers.

901
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,720
This guy.
I went and I just would go from

902
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,400
piece to piece though I would I
would literally have three

903
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,800
pieces and then a bowl of ice
cream with that.

904
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,240
And then I would couple of
minutes, maybe about 1020

905
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:00,640
minutes later, nobody's
watching.

906
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,000
My parents might be watching TV.
I'm gonna go back at two more

907
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,800
slices.
And then I would just start

908
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,040
taking the whole sheet and just
kind of taking my hands and just

909
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,560
eating it and eating it and
eventually becoming oblivious to

910
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,200
what I was and how much I was
eating.

911
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,720
Just kind of fell into it a
trance.

912
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,480
Yeah, yeah, it came.
It became, it became a habit.

913
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,760
And when, when, when stuff
becomes a habit, often times you

914
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,360
stop thinking about what you're
doing because it's it's second

915
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,480
nature.
It's a habit.

916
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,840
Like I don't think about
drinking water in the morning

917
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,400
because I just get up and drink
water in the morning.

918
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Good example.
It's, it's a habit, right?

919
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,720
You don't think about your your
night time routine because guess

920
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,320
what?
It's a habit, you know, and

921
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,880
that's what people don't don't.
I don't.

922
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,800
From an addict standpoint,
that's part of our problems

923
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,040
because it's just becomes part
of who we are.

924
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Yeah.
Right.

925
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Yeah, it's, it's just like a,
it's like a common just trait

926
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,480
that we carry with us.
But you know, I mean, I would

927
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,080
just eat so much, but ice cream
sandwiches, a whole box of

928
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,680
those.
I mean, I, I was just, I was

929
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,400
just so I would slam.
I look at these influencers out

930
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,920
there today that make money off
of monetizing overeating like

931
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,960
some of these like.
I would eat a whole pizza in

932
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,800
less than an hour, you know?
Things like that.

933
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,840
I find myself watching those me
like I could have schooled these

934
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,680
fools, you know, and if I would
have just did it over again,

935
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,360
man, no, but it's it is.
That was great.

936
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Yeah, that was awesome.
I just bought you.

937
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,160
I'm like, that used to be me.
I could kill you bro, you know?

938
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:31,320
So, so from so take you down, so
back, let's go back to the

939
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,440
hospital.
You're checked in the ambulance.

940
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Get you there.
You're 799 lbs.

941
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,040
What's the health?
What's your health like at that

942
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,800
point in time?
16 years old, Yeah.

943
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,240
Yeah, so good news.
I mean, I, I just saw the hand

944
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,280
of God's favor over my life at
that point.

945
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,760
I mean, I remember the only
thing I had was sleep apnea.

946
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,960
And that was because when I laid
down my, my, my weight would

947
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,440
kind of smother me, right.
So I stopped breathing about

948
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,400
they think they said I think it
was like 7060.

949
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,120
Some of the 70 sometimes an hour
respiration wise I would stop

950
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600
breathing.
So it was pretty severe sleep

951
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,840
apnea put me on a bi pap
machine, not a not AC pap.

952
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Bi pap was continual airflow.
The C pap kind of just flies in

953
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,320
and then levels out.
Breeze in kind of has a ramp.

954
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,960
The BI pap was just forceful
continuation up and down that I

955
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,000
remember correctly if I remember
that.

956
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Correctly, but it was.
Like that?

957
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Did you realize during that time
how, what, like much better you

958
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,480
were sleeping after they did
that?

959
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,360
Because you couldn't have been
sleeping very well waking up 70

960
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,040
times an hour?
Yeah.

961
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,440
I remember, I remember not
wanting to wear it at first

962
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,000
because they have a mask and you
put it on.

963
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Like, I remember feeling like
that was, I was wearing it and

964
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160
it was smothering a little bit.
So it took me a while to get

965
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,560
used to it.
But after I got used to it,

966
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,560
yeah, my, my sleep became very,
very well rested when I woke up.

967
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,160
I remember.
You had to have noticed a huge

968
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,080
difference.
Yeah, after a while, but, you

969
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,920
know, being a teenager, I didn't
really care back then.

970
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
But I'm thinking back and how
much I slept better.

971
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
I slept better.
I remember, like, not remember

972
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,960
exactly how I felt, I guess more
like I just was able to think

973
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
more clearly and it wasn't so
cranky.

974
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,400
So I do remember those little
little tips there.

975
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,760
But yeah, yeah, the sleep apnea
was one thing, and then I had

976
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,280
the iron oxygen, hadn't anything
else.

977
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
I mean, my, my cholesterol
levels are very low.

978
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,520
Blood pressure was normal.
My heart rate, though, was

979
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,720
elevated.
I remember, I think it was like

980
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:37,600
when I was sitting there, it was
almost a hundred 110 just

981
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,520
sitting because it was such a
yeah, trying to.

982
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,280
Pump your blood through all
that, yeah.

983
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,200
Yeah, because what they say
normal resting heart rate and

984
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,960
they're saying normal between
6100.

985
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,280
Well, honestly, hundred's not
really normal.

986
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,040
It's on the far end of normal.
It's unless you have a disorder

987
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480
or some kind of issue with the
heart electrical system, then

988
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,120
that's not really normal.
So you, I mean today it's like

989
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,760
5550.
Eight.

990
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,920
Yeah, my my resting heartbeats
54.

991
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Yeah, beautiful.
That's great.

992
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,560
So that was the only.
Those are the only two things

993
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,040
that I remember them saying.
I mean, and I was obese.

994
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,320
That's amazing.
No, but that's amazing.

995
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,480
But that probably a lot of that
has to do with the fact you're

996
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,240
only 16 years old, right?
And from what we've kind of

997
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,080
gathered in the conversation
that was an 18 month pack on.

998
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,440
So it's not like you were
slowly, I'm not saying killing

999
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,480
yourself, but you weren't
slowly, you know, adding, you

1000
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,000
know, every year £100, a hundred
pounds, £100.

1001
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,040
It was a dramatic increase in
weight in a short amount of

1002
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,560
time.
So that is impressive.

1003
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,000
That definitely good news from
that aspect, right?

1004
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,320
Yeah.
So, So what was the, what was

1005
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,160
the, what was the game plan when
you, when you, when you're in

1006
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,520
the hospital, what were they
going to do?

1007
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080
What was the strategy?
And did you start your weight

1008
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,200
loss journey after the hospital
stay or did it take a while?

1009
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,920
The hospital stay was the
initiator.

1010
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,480
So I was in there probably about
two to three weeks.

1011
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,000
It was like beginning mid
August, somewhat to the end of

1012
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,160
August because I remember school
was starting soon.

1013
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,560
So in Pennsylvania, it starts at
the end of August, I believe.

1014
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,080
And remember being in there not
knowing what they're going to

1015
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,480
do.
They talked about vigorous

1016
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,880
rehabilitation.
That sounded painful.

1017
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,720
I was like, I don't really want
to do vigorous rehabilitation,

1018
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:20,040
but they talked about maybe
putting me into a hospital

1019
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,720
somewhere that helped me lose
weight quicker, but they didn't

1020
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:27,440
have any beds available for me.
So what they did is First off,

1021
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,640
they started walking me a little
bit.

1022
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,360
I couldn't walk very far, but I
remember the first time they had

1023
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,600
me up and walking, they kind of
helped me roll out of bed.

1024
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080
I had one of those things that
hangs out from the ceiling to

1025
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,560
pull myself a little bit like a
bar.

1026
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,480
Yeah.
Got my legs over, started

1027
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,240
cramping up so bad it was
miserable.

1028
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,480
But when I eventually got those
cramps and started subsiding, I

1029
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,280
had these two really beautiful
nurses walk in and say, hey,

1030
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,240
we're going to take you for a
walk.

1031
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:52,680
And that was motivation, city
routine.

1032
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,240
Especially my 16 year old.
Damn straight that's right.

1033
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,960
Like bro.
'S going to walk today, right?

1034
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,120
So so they one hug, one grabbed
me from one side, 1 grabbed from

1035
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,600
the other side and ended up
walking me probably about 10

1036
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,920
maybe 10 to 12 feet and then I
cramped up so bad I had to go

1037
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,400
back and sit back down.
So.

1038
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,200
Wow, that was my massage.
You bummer.

1039
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,160
I did.
They didn't.

1040
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Do it though they.
Didn't do it.

1041
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,880
They just said sit there and
just kind of like rub it out.

1042
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,800
I'm like, OK, you know, but
isn't.

1043
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,360
That your job to rub it out,
nurse.

1044
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,520
Yeah, you're the professional.
Yeah, please.

1045
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,160
I can't even reach my feet.
Please AM.

1046
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,840
I doing this.
Right, right.

1047
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,360
Yeah.
But, you know, just taking the

1048
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,640
first steps like that are
painful.

1049
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,240
But here's the here's the good
news.

1050
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,080
They had me up and moving and I
remember standing even for like

1051
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,760
2 minutes was a record for me.
At that point, my back would

1052
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,280
start aching.
But the perseverance aspect of

1053
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,040
it because you know, all of a
sudden it's like life starts to

1054
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,640
make more sense to you.
And like you kind of I guess

1055
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,840
reality was this, if I didn't do
something, I was going to die.

1056
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,840
That, I mean, you're in a.
Word from your position right

1057
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,240
but from a health standpoint you
really wouldn't have died

1058
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,200
because you only your heart rate
was elevated, but part of that

1059
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,320
was because the obesity he.
Would have if he was packing on

1060
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,720
200 lbs.
Oh, this is.

1061
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,040
I guess that's months.
I mean, and think about the

1062
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,400
pressure on the heart too.
Your heart's designed to hold.

1063
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,480
On.
You hit the nail on the head,

1064
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,880
Chris.
He was 16 years old.

1065
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,000
By 26, he was dead.
Yeah.

1066
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Oh yeah, OK, I could see that.
So my, my journey was I was

1067
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,440
basically killing myself, what I
was eating in my habits and I

1068
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,840
did have a opportunity to like
think about life a little deeper

1069
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,640
because I'm like, what, what am
I doing here as a 16 year old?

1070
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,960
I'm trying to ponder this and do
I want to live like this the

1071
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,400
rest of my life?
Do I really want to be this guy

1072
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,000
that just eats food and trying
to put it in a 16 year old head?

1073
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,960
I didn't want to be like that.
I wanted to date girls one day.

1074
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,200
I wanted to play football.
I wanted to like, I want to be

1075
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,960
around and watch what happens
next in WWF or E, right?

1076
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,160
I want, I want to be all that
stuff.

1077
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,240
Like Pinocchio, I want to be a
real boy.

1078
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,400
I want to be a real boy.
I mean, the fairy godmother.

1079
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Well, that's when I did have a
relationship with Jesus and

1080
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,520
started at that point.
And that's what really changed

1081
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,000
my outlook on myself.
Now at a teenage years, I didn't

1082
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,440
know what that meant really.
I mean, I I would still be the

1083
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,440
guy that said, all right, I
believe in Jesus and look at

1084
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,120
porn or, you know, I'm leaving
Jesus, but I'm going to go swear

1085
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,720
and do my thing.
I don't care what anybody says.

1086
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,440
Like, you know, so very selfish
in my heart.

1087
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
But I did have a faith that
really captured my heart and

1088
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,280
really captured who I was and
that changed me.

1089
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,040
And so because here's the thing,
the biggest change for me at

1090
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,560
that point was this.
I went from not loving myself

1091
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,520
and hating myself what I become
because image is everything as a

1092
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,320
teenager.
And if you're look called fat or

1093
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,880
looked at because I I was called
a bunch of names in school

1094
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,200
because I was.
Kids are brutal, man.

1095
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,840
They're terrible.
And that was what went with me

1096
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,680
as I was living life and and
being large.

1097
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,840
And I kind of claimed that over
my life and eventually just came

1098
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,280
to a point where I'm like, you
know what?

1099
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,560
I don't like who I am.
I don't like what people have

1100
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560
called me.
I don't want to be the fat guy

1101
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,520
anymore.
I I need help.

1102
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,680
And that's when I said God help
me, Jesus help me in this

1103
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,920
process.
And I started finding more value

1104
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,760
in my life at that point, as
much as I could understand it,

1105
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,960
I'm like my life means something
more than just eating food.

1106
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,400
My life means something more
than just existing.

1107
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,440
And so God, do what you want to
do with it.

1108
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,760
And that was my simple prayer
that motivated me to look at my

1109
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,440
my experience a little
differently.

1110
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,720
And then suddenly from there,
I'm like, I'm going to give this

1111
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,240
thing what I have to get
healthier again.

1112
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,200
And I didn't know I was going to
live or die, to be honest,

1113
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,720
because at that age and that
weight, I just felt like life

1114
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,720
was over because there's how do
you get out?

1115
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,360
It's like if you guys ever had,
if you ever would take something

1116
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,200
like maybe hold 100 lbs of
something and just put it on

1117
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,000
your lap and try to get up and
just feel how difficult that is

1118
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,080
and just think about that
tension all the time.

1119
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,400
And it's like a prison.
You just, it's like you're

1120
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,760
shackled.
You just can't move very well.

1121
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,720
I have a friend right now,
Justin, who had the lap band

1122
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:04,800
surgery.
He was well over 400 lbs, and he

1123
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,920
just weighed in last Monday.
I think he said he was 251.

1124
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,320
And the pride in his face and to
look at him and how much better

1125
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,680
he moves and how happier he is,
it just, it really brought tears

1126
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,520
to my eyes.
I was like, congratulations,

1127
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,480
man, because he's trying and
he's doing the work.

1128
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400
And it is.
It's outstanding.

1129
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,080
And I think about what you said,
and I tell people it's like that

1130
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,720
guy was carrying around another
200 lbs.

1131
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:33,280
Yeah.
Yeah.

1132
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,600
It was a lot and it.
Yeah.

1133
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160
You were carrying around another
500 lbs.

1134
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,120
True story, yeah.
Now with with you and with you

1135
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,080
being it was 59, right or 510.
I was 5/8, a little over a

1136
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
little over 5/8.
Is that how tall you are now,

1137
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
5/8?
58, we'll call it 58.

1138
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,560
OK, I haven't been in a while.
I'm sure I am.

1139
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,720
OK.
Crush a vertebrae, right?

1140
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Well, no, I reason when I had
neck surgery, man, I shrunk a

1141
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,080
little bit because they took,
they took a vertebrae out and

1142
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,720
legit I, I'm like, I call
bullshit.

1143
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:04,920
I'm like, I'm shorter now come
on.

1144
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,440
So when, when, Oh hell, I forgot
my question.

1145
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,000
It was a good question too.
Oh, I'm that's what it is.

1146
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
So, so according to the, the
chart that, you know, like I

1147
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,400
could Google it height.
What should your weight be at

1148
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,720
according to the American
standards as far as a as a

1149
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,520
healthy.
Spot 160.

1150
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560
It's 160 ish yeah, it's so it's
stupid like there's no.

1151
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,880
He's an inch shorter than me.
Mine's 165.

1152
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,840
OK.
Yeah, 160.

1153
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Is that that total?
But like I said earlier, if they

1154
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,320
don't factor in the muscle and
they'll factor in what you're

1155
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,840
doing, like you can be a
bodybuilder and be obese just

1156
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,160
because that's where you
categorize on the BMI.

1157
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Well, here's the difference.
I got up to 185 when I was on

1158
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,680
antidepressants, whatever you
want to call them.

1159
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,920
Mood enhancers.
I was fat, there's no question.

1160
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,480
But had I been working out, I
wouldn't have been fat.

1161
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,240
I know, I know what you're
saying.

1162
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,440
You know, if if I had been
conscious of going to the gym

1163
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,680
and keeping up on maintaining
the calories I was putting in,

1164
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,200
that's a whole different story,
right?

1165
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Because now you're healthy.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1166
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,520
There's this difference.
There's difference.

1167
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,680
I mean, you take care of
yourself and you're gaining

1168
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,400
muscle and you're you're losing
fat.

1169
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,360
You're in a better place.
You're just in a better place.

1170
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,760
And so that's where I'm at
today.

1171
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,760
I mean, I had to learn a lot
over the process of this whole

1172
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,040
thing.
I mean, I fell in love with

1173
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,200
health and Wellness.
I fell in love with taking a

1174
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,280
life and making it healthier
with things that we're able to

1175
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,960
use here on this earth to do
that.

1176
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,880
I mean, that can be food, that
can be exercise, that can be

1177
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,160
supplements, that can be getting
sunlight, all the different

1178
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,120
things I've just studied,
studied, studied since I was

1179
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,120
about probably 18 or 16 years
old.

1180
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,440
I started studying because
that's when I had a

1181
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,640
transformation and I just wanted
to learn everything I could.

1182
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,400
So I read magazines back then
and rented or got books from the

1183
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,240
library.
I remember when when the

1184
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:55,800
Internet was more prevalent with
websites, I could start Googling

1185
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,120
things and searching, you know,
health and Wellness stuff.

1186
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,040
Today it's everywhere in a
saturated.

1187
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,360
There's so many voices and some
of the stuff I call bull crap on

1188
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,320
other things, you know, people
are just trying to get views and

1189
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,320
it's just like you're deceiving
so many people.

1190
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640
And the second thing is there's
a lot of good information out

1191
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,760
there.
So, but how do you differentiate

1192
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,520
that?
You have to know your stuff,

1193
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,960
right?
So that way you offer as a

1194
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,360
health and Wellness coach is
basically deciphering the good

1195
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,360
from the bad.
Here's what I've found will help

1196
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,720
you.
And it's worth the money and the

1197
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,760
time and the investment because
that's a big thing.

1198
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,640
It's not just the money, it's
your time and investment and the

1199
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000
negative attributes to your body
for the people who are snake oil

1200
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,440
salesman, for lack of a better
term, right?

1201
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,200
Yeah, yeah, I, I do so because
of my love for health and

1202
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,160
Wellness and my love for helping
people become healthier because

1203
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,760
I see people differently today.
I see people as opportunities

1204
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,880
when they're sick or unhealthy.
I see their I see their health.

1205
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,360
I can see the beyond the
sickness, beyond the obesity.

1206
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,720
And I can see them shining.
I can see them happier.

1207
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,200
And so that these that just, it
makes me feel so very much

1208
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,040
inspired to go help people.
So I work for a company right

1209
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,640
now called Energized Health,
that's a cellular health company

1210
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,000
that's out there that does
amazing things.

1211
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,880
And number, what we prioritize
is this, we prioritize fat loss,

1212
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,480
we prioritize cellular health.
So getting hydrated at a

1213
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,920
cellular level that's really
changed your health in general

1214
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,720
and really improve and reverse
conditions that people have.

1215
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,120
We've seen people get off
medications, people started to,

1216
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,520
I mean, pain levels have gone
way down, reversals of certain

1217
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,400
diseases, like it's crazy when
it happens, when you hydrate

1218
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,040
your cell, so.
How do you hydrate?

1219
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,120
How do you hydrate yourself?
Because I've never heard this

1220
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,320
before.
I mean, are we talking just

1221
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,920
water and electrolytes or just.
So that's a starting point, but

1222
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,120
it's a whole energized health,
it's a whole protocol.

1223
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,720
So yes, water electrolytes are a
primary starting point, but then

1224
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,120
there's these other, we will
call them sequences that we use

1225
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,800
to help people really stick that
water there and continue to

1226
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,160
throw out toxins from the cells.
So it's very scientific and it's

1227
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,520
all, it's sequenced in such a
way to make it work and do well.

1228
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,480
So we share that with the
program.

1229
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,840
But yeah, it starts with that.
And when people do that, we've,

1230
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,960
I've literally seen people get
off all their medications.

1231
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,160
I've seen people who couldn't
walk start walking again.

1232
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,080
Like you think this is like
we're, we're sitting in this

1233
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,200
fairy tale, but honestly, it's
not people, people because they

1234
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,520
take their health seriously,
they recover.

1235
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,120
It's amazing.
So and then we prioritize muscle

1236
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,400
gaining, which is so important,
muscles of longevity, organ.

1237
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,040
And so we really, really stress
gaining muscle for your current

1238
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,240
situation, for quality of life,
but also for quantity later on

1239
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,920
in life.
So that's what I do today.

1240
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,720
I coach people plus I author
books and I'm also having I have

1241
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,360
a podcast called £600 Down which
I go on there and share a lot of

1242
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,520
information.
Y'all need to be on that

1243
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,920
sometime soon by the way because
you guys.

1244
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,480
We'd love to, man.
Yeah, absolutely.

1245
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,920
I think together we're we're
we're what, 300 lbs Mike and I,

1246
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,760
yes.
So like, you're half a 600 that

1247
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,880
works.
Yeah, we would love to man that.

1248
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,760
Sounds awesome, yeah.
Yeah, that's so good.

1249
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,560
I so I love what you're doing
now because that's fantastic.

1250
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,120
So you have the epiphany when
you're 16, something's got to

1251
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,880
change.
So you, you, you start walking

1252
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,040
this new path.
How long did it take you to, to

1253
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,120
get from £600 to what you felt
was a healthy weight?

1254
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,840
Because obviously your journey
is still continuing, but to

1255
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800
where you could wake up at the
morning and say, Oh, I feel

1256
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,520
good.
And the, and the other thing,

1257
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,280
this is a weird little question,
but it's, I meant to ask it

1258
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,400
earlier.
So I'm doing a little rabbit

1259
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,000
hole thing.
When you were £800 essentially,

1260
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,560
and you would look in the
mirror, what did you see?

1261
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,280
Did you like what you saw?
Did you recognize the fact that

1262
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,480
you're this £800 human?
Or did you just kind of just

1263
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,120
filter that, that out?
Because obviously you, you

1264
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,800
weren't in a good place
mentally, right?

1265
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,440
So that's just always kind of
intrigued me of what you what

1266
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,720
you, what's yourself image of
your, what's yourself worth,

1267
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,360
what's yourself image?
When you look in the mirror and

1268
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,360
say, you know, Oh my God, I
can't believe I got to this far.

1269
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Or do you even see it?
Does it even register?

1270
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,760
You know what I'm saying?
I it's interesting because I

1271
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,360
would never want to look at
myself in the mirror.

1272
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,600
I when I was that large, I would
avoid cameras, I would avoid

1273
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,400
pick people seeing me.
I'd hide.

1274
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,880
I mean, I didn't when people
came to visit, I would not want

1275
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,200
them to come to my room.
All the things so I wouldn't

1276
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,280
care to look in the mirror
because I didn't care about

1277
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,320
myself enough to see that,
because I didn't see myself in

1278
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:25,920
such a light.
That's.

1279
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,200
Interesting.
Yeah, not even even to see if

1280
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,880
what's on my face.
I did check my face out.

1281
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,320
All the acne I had to get off
when I was a kid, but other than

1282
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,360
that I didn't care well and I
still kept, I remember because I

1283
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,360
was so large.
I would go to, I was probably

1284
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,480
£500, still kind of mobile,
still doing like still being

1285
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,280
going around.
And I would go to my friend's

1286
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,680
houses randomly here and there
because I would get out still

1287
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,560
maybe 480 but really close to
500 I feel like.

1288
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,840
And I'd go to their room and
play video games and I would

1289
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,480
break their bed just sitting on
it.

1290
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,720
Wow.
And I remember going out to

1291
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,200
restaurants and sitting on the
chairs and bending the the legs

1292
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:06,800
on some of these chairs.
And so when I was losing, when I

1293
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,480
was on my journey, yeah, I still
had it in my mind, even if I was

1294
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,960
like £300 or less, I still had
in my mind that if I sat at

1295
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,360
anything, I would probably break
it.

1296
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,800
And it wasn't true, but it was
like this in my head.

1297
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,480
And then finally I started
seeing myself in the mirror.

1298
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,040
I'm like, I'm starting to see
muscle definition.

1299
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,160
I'm starting to see life get
better.

1300
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,440
My body's starting to change.
And I started actually not

1301
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,920
loving myself per SE, but just
starting appreciating the

1302
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,000
differences and changes.
So I started getting pictures of

1303
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,360
myself.
I started doing all the things I

1304
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,120
did have some skin reduction
surgeries completed that

1305
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,640
ultimately guys, it was amazing
how they came about.

1306
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,760
They were free except for I
think I put in like $200 at the

1307
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,840
most for three different
surgeries. 2 of them were from a

1308
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,880
doctor in New Jersey.
His name was Doctor Barry D

1309
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,120
Bernardo.
He's probably still there.

1310
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:00,080
It's in Montclair, NJ, and he's
a, he did the surgeries for free

1311
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,560
because I was in some magazines
and he saw that start.

1312
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,320
He saw those and he's like,
yeah.

1313
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,560
So he's like, hey, let's do
this.

1314
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,760
So he did some, he did some
surgeries for skin reduction.

1315
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,880
He, I think he did two.
He did two of them.

1316
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,400
And then I had a third one
completed recent, five years ago

1317
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,360
now in Pittsburgh with Doctor
Rubin.

1318
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,600
And my town in Bradford really
got behind me and they, they

1319
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,440
helped me raise.
I think it was like $68,000 that

1320
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,880
I needed around there to, to
really have another surgery done

1321
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,880
and get my legs completed and
stuff like that.

1322
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,400
So I've had some good surgeries
completed.

1323
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,960
So now I can look at myself and
say I can see more muscle

1324
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,120
definition.
I still have some skin and I

1325
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,920
sometimes get a little
self-conscious about it.

1326
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,520
But working back to where I was,
it's it's night and day.

1327
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,040
OK so here's my rabbit hole
question since Chris drugged me

1328
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,120
down.
You mentioned earlier that you

1329
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,240
couldn't go to the bathroom and
God bless your brother for

1330
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,440
helping you out.
That there's that's a great

1331
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,920
human being.
Could you bathe yourself at your

1332
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,880
largest without breaking the tub
or?

1333
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,920
Guys, I couldn't even take a
bath.

1334
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,440
I couldn't even.
We didn't even have a working

1335
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,360
shower.
Actually, I remember we were so

1336
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,040
poor, we didn't even have an
operating shower.

1337
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,920
We had an operating bathtub,
but.

1338
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,640
So did your brother help you
with that too as.

1339
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Far as.
Sponge bath.

1340
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,720
I got sponge baths.
My parents actually gave me

1341
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,800
showers outside with a when I
could still walk a little bit

1342
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,760
with a hose and.
Garden hose.

1343
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,960
The yard.
My mom was like trying to shower

1344
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,160
me as I was.
Yeah.

1345
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,240
So I mean, I would I would try
to reach under my folds as much

1346
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,480
as possible, but they really had
to help me with things.

1347
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,920
And I just think that puts it
into perspective for people.

1348
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,240
It's like, you know, things that
you get up and do every day

1349
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,480
that, like Chris said, you don't
even think about.

1350
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,840
You take for granted you just
couldn't do those things at all.

1351
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:59,320
No.
So you so how long has it taken

1352
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,760
you to get to pull the weight
off from this from the £800 to

1353
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,120
weigh you?
Like I said earlier, where you

1354
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,200
you were, you were finding
comfortable in your own skin.

1355
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,840
And like you alluded to, you
kind of answered the question,

1356
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,200
but you didn't give me a time
frame.

1357
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,840
And I'm that guy that likes.
Talking about 8 years, about 8

1358
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,720
years, I felt comfortable about
8 years.

1359
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,520
So it was I lost. 24 at that
point.

1360
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,320
Yes, yes.
So I lost 200 lbs in one year,

1361
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,480
200 lbs in a second year.
So I was £400 in two years and

1362
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,320
then it was very slow.
Six years after that it was just

1363
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,600
kind of like 20 pounds, 40 lbs
or whatever, right?

1364
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,240
Just kind of like slow, slow,
slow.

1365
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,000
To the eight-year mark, 8 years,
I relapsed a little bit and

1366
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,080
started gaining some weight
back, like 60 lbs.

1367
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,600
I probably was about 270 ish at
that point.

1368
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,000
And then I just started getting
serious again and here I am

1369
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,080
today.
I was.

1370
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,880
The lowest I was at was around
199-202-0220 two.

1371
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,160
But were you happy with that?
I, you know, I wasn't really

1372
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,360
happy because I was getting too
thin and I wanted to, I wanted

1373
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,360
to put some muscle on.
So that's why I really started

1374
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,560
really working the weights and
everything like that.

1375
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,680
So I'm at 211.6.
Sometimes I'll be at 2:09.

1376
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,920
I go, I fluctuate 209 to 213.
Basically is where I end.

1377
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,440
Up now when you when you weigh
yourself because like my wife,

1378
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,360
you know, women like to weigh
theirself every day.

1379
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,760
I'm like, you can't weigh
yourself every day.

1380
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,240
You pick one day a week.
You weigh yourself the same

1381
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,160
exact time once a week, because
that's a true, Yep, it's a true

1382
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,320
reflection of, of what work
you're doing or not doing.

1383
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,920
Right.
So I'm just Sunday morning,

1384
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,560
7:00.
I'll wean myself when I get up.

1385
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,000
That's it.
Where she'll like every other

1386
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,880
day.
I'm like, can I stop?

1387
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,000
Especially women, because women
carry water different, you know,

1388
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,000
they hold things different.
They're not like men.

1389
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,520
They you know, so it's it's
like, I can go, we can go walk

1390
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,960
for an hour and I'll burn like
700 calories or should burn like

1391
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,600
400.
So I'm like, you just can't,

1392
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,640
right.
So it's just that one time a

1393
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,320
week to get your reference and
then go from there, at least in

1394
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,800
my world.
Yeah, Yeah, That's all true.

1395
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,760
Yeah.
Exercise is so vital for me

1396
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,640
today, too.
It's just every day I'm moving.

1397
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,440
Every day you develop these
habits, guys, and you just The

1398
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,040
thing is, you're never, we're
never gonna make it.

1399
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,440
So when I said eight years, I'm
still, I mean, it's been 22

1400
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,840
years now for me, sure.
And I learned something new

1401
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,120
every month, every year.
And I'm not the same guy I was

1402
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,640
last year.
I'm a totally different guy

1403
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,080
today.
I'm like, I'm doing 75 hard

1404
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,040
right now.
I've never done that.

1405
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,480
Oh.
Right on.

1406
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,120
I've done that a couple times.
That's fun.

1407
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,320
Yeah, it's really, it builds
your discipline.

1408
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,720
It's really amazing.
So I've been doing it with a

1409
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,920
group of guys right now.
Cool.

1410
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,240
It's working well.
I'm liking it, but I'm not doing

1411
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,360
it for weight loss per SE.
I'm doing it to like body

1412
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,080
composition.
Right.

1413
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,880
See, I can.
I couldn't do mine for weight

1414
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,720
loss either because I had, I
fell into it by accident because

1415
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,360
I was at Orange Theory one day
and somebody was talking about

1416
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,360
it and I was listening.
I'm like well I read every day

1417
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,320
and I eat insanely healthy as
opposed to most Americans and I

1418
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:56,360
was already doing 2 workouts a
day because it my last three 2-3

1419
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,720
years in oratory I would do
back-to-back workouts Monday,

1420
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,000
Wednesday and Friday and just do
one on Tuesdays, Thursdays.

1421
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,920
But my wife and I were always
doing something in the morning

1422
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,640
or at night so I was already
working out like 15 * a week.

1423
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,160
I'm like well this is stupid I
might as well just do this

1424
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,240
because I'm already doing it
right.

1425
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,160
So, but again, my problem tunnel
vision, then I ended up

1426
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,200
breaking, I ended up having a
stress fracture in my second

1427
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,560
metatars on my right foot
because I don't listen to my

1428
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,200
body.
I just I just kicked my own ass

1429
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:28,080
because, you know, I was at my
absolute best fitness, which was

1430
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,840
last year before I broke my
before we decided to put myself

1431
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,160
in a boot, I was 173 lbs.
I had like 8% body fat.

1432
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,720
My BMI, which we've already
talked about that skewed I was

1433
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:43,800
23.1 70 for 72% of my body was
muscle.

1434
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,960
You know, then you have the
water weight and the fat, but it

1435
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,360
literally I, I miles in under.
I did back-to-back miles in

1436
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:56,360
under 6 minutes as a, as a 53
year old who grew up with asthma

1437
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,760
that moved to Arizona because I
was going to die with asthma so

1438
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,400
bad.
So my journey was, was from 2015

1439
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,680
and it's still going on, like
you said, because when you're,

1440
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,560
when you're a big person and I
wasn't anywhere near you, I was

1441
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,560
like I said, 2:40.
But the shift and it takes a

1442
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,040
while.
Like people don't get how long

1443
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,520
it takes.
So that's why I asked that

1444
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,319
question because I mean, £200 a
year back-to-back years is

1445
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,120
phenomenal.
But that was obviously weight

1446
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,240
that your body was just trying
to get rid of to begin with

1447
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,240
because now you kind of
struggle.

1448
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,720
So when we, when I got released
from my neck surgeon, I started

1449
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,560
Isagenix and, and started Orange
theory.

1450
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,240
That was in October of 14.
So by January of 15 I was down

1451
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,240
to 166 lbs.
But there was no muscle, right?

1452
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,279
I was just, I was just a skinny
and my wife hated it because

1453
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:49,120
there was no definition.
So it took 5-6 years

1454
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,880
consistently working out to
build the muscle to get to where

1455
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,920
I had a solid foundation.
And then you just build on top

1456
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,840
of that.
So what you're doing is an

1457
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,319
accurate approach in, in my eyes
anyway, 2 living a healthier

1458
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:04,000
lifestyle and now you're
building the muscle.

1459
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,160
So we have to have you back on
in a year just to see.

1460
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:06,880
Yeah.
Dude.

1461
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,279
Because I think you're going to
be phenomenal in a year if you

1462
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:11,960
continue working out, adding
muscles.

1463
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,040
So then your physique is going
to be better.

1464
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,120
The more muscle you add, the
healthier you feel, the more

1465
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,120
active you feel, the more
energized you feel, the clear

1466
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,720
your mind is.
It's, it's a whole encompassing

1467
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,680
thing when you, when you start
living a fully, you know, tunnel

1468
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,800
vision towards healthy lifestyle
that a lot of people don't get.

1469
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,520
But when you when you do it,
it's the end result's fantastic.

1470
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,960
Absolutely.
And I'm taking progress.

1471
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,640
You take progress picture every
day with 75 hard so you have to

1472
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,200
take a progress picture.
So I have those pictures and I

1473
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,600
can just compare those to the
future.

1474
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,200
Yeah, so it's good.
I appreciate that and anything I

1475
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,120
would just give people advice
like if you're listening to this

1476
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,279
and you're sitting there and
you're like, man, what do I do?

1477
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,920
How can I'm not a weight lifter
about this?

1478
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,240
If you can just do basic things
like even just every 5 minutes

1479
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,200
if you want to, or every hour
you'd want to walk for 5 minutes

1480
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,560
up and down your hallway.
Just stand up for a little bit

1481
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,520
and see if you're sitting down
all day.

1482
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,760
Just start somewhere.
But if you're already used to

1483
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,560
working out, challenge yourself
with something different.

1484
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,640
Do something different.
Do like you do like carry stuff

1485
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,000
around your yard or or go for a
hike or anything that you could

1486
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,320
do to get something different.
Your body adapts.

1487
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,080
So when you have muscle
adaption, you're not going to

1488
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,120
burn as many calories, You're
not going to have a big

1489
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,720
thermogenic effect from weight
loss because your body's used to

1490
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,840
what's happening.
So invest in more energy by

1491
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,000
doing some different, different
things.

1492
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,000
So I would just say start
somewhere and you can make it

1493
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,960
your own thing.
Have fun with it a couple times

1494
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,280
a week.
Build up from there.

1495
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,600
Keep the end in mind where you
want to be and then work on it

1496
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,640
from there.
Take some steps.

1497
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,800
That's how I would suggest
starting today.

1498
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,680
I like that.
Keep the end in mind.

1499
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,040
That's cool.
Yeah, you just can't take the

1500
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,600
whole thing in one thought,
right?

1501
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,440
That's the key is when I started
my recovery, I took it 10

1502
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,240
seconds at a time.
That's how addicted I was,

1503
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,640
right?
It wasn't minutes, it was

1504
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:54,240
seconds.
That's.

1505
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,480
Amazing though.
Yeah, yeah, we had.

1506
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:59,400
We had one of my friends on the
show who's who's a local

1507
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,400
entrepreneur, but he's also huge
in the peptides and his dad

1508
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,360
would preach to him inch by
inches of cinch.

1509
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,800
Yard by yard is hard, but it's
the same concept like you have

1510
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,720
in order to win, to win in your
profession.

1511
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,120
I've talked about this before.
You got to win the day, so you

1512
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,160
got to have certain amount of
hours that are productive for

1513
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,640
you, win the day.
Then you got to have at least

1514
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,240
four to seven days a week to win
the week.

1515
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,120
And you got to have at least 16
out of 30 days a month to win

1516
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,160
the month, right?
You got to have at least the

1517
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,760
majority of the year.
So, you know, 8 months or nine

1518
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,720
months out of the year to win
the year because everybody's

1519
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,320
going to lapse.
Right.

1520
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,160
Well, just like you just laid it
out, you lost all your weight,

1521
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,000
but it took you years to get to
where you're at today, right?

1522
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,560
You didn't wake up looking like
you do today.

1523
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,200
That's not going to happen
overnight.

1524
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:42,440
Justin didn't wake up looking
like he does.

1525
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,480
I've been fascinated for the
whole time we've been sitting

1526
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,720
here that this guy was £800,
right?

1527
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,360
It's just, I'm so happy for you.
That's what I, that's what I see

1528
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,680
the whole time I've been looking
is how happy I am for you that

1529
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,680
you were able to enjoy life
again.

1530
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,520
That's the one thing that I hope
for any addict is that they

1531
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,880
overcome it and that they're
able to be happy again.

1532
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,960
I love living life.
I love waking up every morning

1533
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,280
because the one thing that I
always tell people is being an

1534
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,960
addict is you think that you're
doing something that's different

1535
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,760
in taboo and oh, I'm getting
away with this, but really it's

1536
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,680
Groundhog Day.
It's the same day every day when

1537
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,080
I wake up.
I don't know what's going to

1538
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,200
happen now because I'm clear.
I'm, I'm facing the world head

1539
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,920
on.
You know, you don't know what's

1540
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,200
going to happen that day.
And that's the fun part about

1541
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,920
it.
You know, when you're an addict,

1542
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,120
that scares you to go out into
society and have to live and

1543
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,520
face people because you're an
addict.

1544
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,880
But that's the part you don't
realize.

1545
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,360
That's kind of a catch 22.
Yeah, Yeah, it is.

1546
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,720
I just love the concept of of
you just said those second by,

1547
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,320
you know, 10 seconds, 10 seconds
is yeah, yeah.

1548
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,960
I mean that that's, that's
really a way to look at

1549
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,080
everything.
I mean, if you're, if you're

1550
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,920
able to get 10 eventually you're
able to get 11.

1551
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,480
If you're able to get 11, you're
able to get 20 eventually and

1552
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:03,400
eventually 20 days, eventually
20 years, eventually lifetime.

1553
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,560
Right.
And life is perspective for

1554
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,560
everyone, right?
It's all in how you look at

1555
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,440
things.
Somebody might look at something

1556
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,880
negatively and you look at it
and say, well, don't you see

1557
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,160
this?
You know, right?

1558
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,400
Yeah, that's good.
That's good perspectives,

1559
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,920
everything.
So what's the typical day for

1560
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,440
Justin Willoughby now?
Man, I'm a beast.

1561
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,000
Tell you what.
So I get up, I do I'll have a

1562
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,320
little bit of protein just to
keep my muscle cuz I do workout,

1563
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,360
I do do cardio, I do weight.
So I have a little protein,

1564
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,240
usually a protein shake.
I'll go to the gym within 1/2

1565
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,880
hour waking, hit some red light
therapy just for skin

1566
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,280
mitochondrial function.
I'll hit the, I'll hit the

1567
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,680
weights for, I'll warm up on a
treadmill or something first for

1568
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,720
like 10 minutes, then go to the
weights for about 45 minutes to

1569
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,800
an hour, usually hitting two
muscle groups.

1570
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,400
So it could be back and chest or
it would be biceps and triceps,

1571
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,640
things like that.
So I'll do that for a little bit

1572
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,320
and then I'll go to the cardio
for an hour.

1573
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,640
I do unless I'm stressed for
time.

1574
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,600
I usually do an hour cardio
every day at the gym and then

1575
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,800
I'll go home, I'll get a shower,
I'll do my thing and then I'll

1576
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,760
have my breakfast, which I have
about a 500 calorie breakfast

1577
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,520
and then it's filled with
protein.

1578
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,160
It's high in protein, right?
I was going to say, but high in

1579
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,240
protein.
Yeah.

1580
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,000
Yeah.
So that's that's the thing that

1581
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,760
people kind of mis misunderstand
sometimes when they're trying to

1582
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,720
get healthy.
It's not so much about the it's,

1583
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,160
it's not so much about the low
calorie diet, you know, or

1584
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,120
lifestyle.
It's.

1585
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,200
What calories you're putting?
In exactly.

1586
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,360
Right, exactly.
If you took a doughnut, that's

1587
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,680
500 calories.
But it's shit.

1588
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,160
But if you take 500 calories of
eggs and Turkey sausage, it's

1589
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,960
good healthy protein.
Good point, Justin.

1590
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,480
Go on with your day, man.
But would I yeah, no, it's good.

1591
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,200
I like your passion behind it.
I, I'll go ahead and I'll have

1592
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,560
those like I'll have two or
three whole eggs and they'll

1593
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,480
have 1/2 cup of egg whites with
that and that would be my

1594
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:57,520
protein source.
Sometimes might have a, a Greek

1595
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,080
yogurt with that just for more
protein depending if it's a a

1596
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,840
large muscle group day and I
worked them hard, I'll have more

1597
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,720
I might even take if I don't
have that much, I might take

1598
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,000
some essential amino acids like
perfect aminos or opto aminos

1599
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,960
just to make sure I get enough
protein adequately to heal the

1600
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,080
muscle and help it regrow.
And then I do like fermented

1601
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,680
foods everyday too, like
sauerkraut.

1602
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,880
I'll do that with some cinnamon
and a little bit of shot of

1603
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,960
olive oil, extra virgin and then
a little bit of honey because

1604
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,320
all that is a really good gut
microbiome health bomb, if you

1605
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,400
will.
So I'll have that with a fruit

1606
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,640
with my eggs.
And so we're at about a 500

1607
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,640
calorie breakfast.
I'll go for a little walk after

1608
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,800
breakfast for like 10 minutes
just to balance blood sugar.

1609
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,880
And then usually outside in the
sun, if it's shining, it's nice.

1610
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,480
Winter time's a little harder,
but I do it.

1611
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,440
And then I usually sit.
I work I'm, I'm a coach and I'm

1612
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,040
on Zoom calls all day long most
of the time or, or doing

1613
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,760
projects on the side with them
or recording a podcast,

1614
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
whatever, right?
Just a lot of time sitting, but

1615
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,600
I'll try the standing desk.
I stand up.

1616
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,160
Sometimes I sit, but usually
stand.

1617
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,080
I'll have weights or, or things
in my room, in my office here

1618
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,040
and I'll start doing some
weights for like 30 seconds to a

1619
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,560
minute, you know, whatever.
I'll just take like break every

1620
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,200
hour and do something for 5
minutes and then get back to

1621
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,040
work.
And and that's and that's super

1622
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,640
important boys and girls because
everybody is leaves such a

1623
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,080
sedentary lifestyle, especially
when they work and they're

1624
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,720
behind a desk in front of
computer.

1625
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,120
I catch myself because I get in
the zone.

1626
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,080
My wife says I have ADHD but
I'll end up now do something.

1627
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,880
All the sudden 3 hours later,
I'm still sitting on my desk.

1628
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,400
He's only known you for an hour
and he figured it out, right?

1629
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,560
So, so, but I'm that thing now
where I, I, I, I'm going to go

1630
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,720
to my office.
I, I do my phone and I, I set it

1631
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,800
for an alarm every hour on the
hour.

1632
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,440
So then when it goes off, I
just, I'll just walk around the

1633
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:45,320
office or I'll go outside.
We have this weird dog dog run

1634
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,200
type thing in front of our
office because it's a unique

1635
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,520
building.
But but it's so true.

1636
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,000
You get up and walk around for
10 minutes.

1637
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,760
The difference of how you feel
just for that 10 minutes is

1638
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,840
fantastic.
Absolutely.

1639
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,280
So very mindful consideration
there to think about.

1640
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,680
Even if you don't, even if
you're not healthy and you're

1641
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,640
trying to send a get started
walk an hour ago, just go for a

1642
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,760
walk.
It's that simple.

1643
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,680
Start there and and build off
that.

1644
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,400
You don't, you started.
By moving what, 12 steps?

1645
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,360
Yeah. 10 to 12 steps exactly.
Look at Justin 12 steps.

1646
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,120
When I say one step at a time,
we're talking to the living

1647
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,760
example.
There you go.

1648
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,200
Back down.
Just one step at a time, right

1649
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,160
in one ways right now, which is
yeah, once again I'm.

1650
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,200
That's that's all.
Happy man.

1651
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,040
Yeah, that was my.
Old motto one step I I believe

1652
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,280
in that, but then the rest of
the day like I'm I'm eating you

1653
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,400
know I have like a protein bar
and maybe maybe like a yogurt.

1654
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,160
I do a lot of protein all day
long.

1655
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,400
I'm probably gathering because
of my fitness level, because of

1656
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,520
what I'm doing.
I'm probably getting about .7

1657
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,800
grams of protein per pound of
body weight right now, so

1658
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,520
equals.
About so you're making sure your

1659
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,280
protein bars don't have like,
yes, things that breakdown into

1660
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,280
sugars.
So, yes, I, I'm very careful

1661
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,360
about protein, but I don't, I
don't do artificial sweeteners.

1662
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,680
That's junk.
It's going to kill you.

1663
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,280
Just get away from that.
You know, I just do things with

1664
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,600
like even stevia is
questionable, but I do stevia.

1665
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,320
It is.
I'll do monk fruit.

1666
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,360
Yeah.
So it's a little better, but I,

1667
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,440
you know, but yeah.
I do honey instead of sugar and

1668
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,400
sugar honey, honey.
Honey's great.

1669
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,000
Yeah, honey's great, honey.
I do.

1670
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,320
I do sweeteners like monk fruit.
I really enjoy monk fruit

1671
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,200
sweetener.
But yeah, I'll I'll probably eat

1672
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,880
about 5 meals a day.
And a quick fact for the ladies

1673
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,360
and gentlemen out there is Chris
likes to call the boys and girls

1674
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,280
at home and around the world, do
not put metal anything in your

1675
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,120
honey or it destroys the
properties, the antioxidant

1676
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,960
properties that you're trying.
To get shit.

1677
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,120
That's good.
That's good.

1678
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,520
Chris Dunham, did you not know
this?

1679
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,400
No, I stir my coffee with the
metal spoon.

1680
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,200
Stop it, honey.
And.

1681
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,240
Buy one of those wooden damn it,
you're destroying the

1682
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:56,600
antioxidant properties of your.
Well, that explains so much.

1683
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,600
I just.
Learned eating honey.

1684
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,320
On the same thing, yeah, you
don't want to overheat honey

1685
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,000
either, because that takes away
the antioxidants and

1686
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,680
polyphenols.
I don't heat it, I just pour it

1687
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,760
in the coffee, but I.
Yeah, well, sometimes you have

1688
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,840
to heat it.
Like I buy it by the gallon from

1689
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,680
the guy that I get.
Sometimes you got to heat it up

1690
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,800
to get the stuff back together.
What are they?

1691
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,040
Called it.
It's raw.

1692
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,960
Yeah, it gets it gets weird
crystallized crystallize a good.

1693
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,440
So raw local honey, organic raw
local honey is always the best.

1694
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,080
Local honey just because of your
area you live in is good for

1695
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,840
allergens.
But honey is like a super food.

1696
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,640
You can people like you do
studies on that.

1697
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:32,840
What was that?
We got one.

1698
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,160
We got one at the corner that
sells honey and yesterday he was

1699
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,920
selling honey and watermelon.
Oh, nice.

1700
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,400
That's a good combo.
That's great.

1701
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,720
Yeah, that's amazing.
Let's go.

1702
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,640
Watermelon, it's really good for
you.

1703
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,200
Actually, yeah, watermelon is
really good for you.

1704
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,480
If you don't know that boy, you
know, listeners and viewers,

1705
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:50,280
check it out.
Google Watermelon, it's really

1706
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,960
good for you.
Yeah, absolutely.

1707
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,800
Great.
It is great for you.

1708
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,040
There's a lot of great foods.
Food can be food can be medicine

1709
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,040
for a lot of things.
You know, if we just start

1710
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,480
cleaning it up now, get rid of
the processed sugars, get rid of

1711
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:03,400
the the junk, the white flours,
that's a great starting point.

1712
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,200
Get rid of the.
I mean, that's all you got to

1713
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,240
do.
Just start there.

1714
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,320
That's a really.
Good baby step, baby step,

1715
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,840
right?
You know you're not going to go

1716
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,200
to zero to 60 like some of us
addicts do.

1717
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,800
And that's the biggest thing
too.

1718
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,000
And then we can wrap this thing
up.

1719
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,720
The whole thing is why I don't
like diets, right?

1720
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,520
Because they're fads and then
they're, they're quick results.

1721
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,040
Now.
Ozempic wasn't designed for

1722
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,720
weight loss.
It was designed for diabetes.

1723
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,680
It was a byproduct, right?
Well, I always like.

1724
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,120
To say everybody reverts back to
the mean, right?

1725
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,080
Right, right.
So you get you get instant

1726
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,440
results because you're you're
shortcutting it.

1727
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,800
You've told yourself I'm going
to try this for a while.

1728
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,160
Everybody does the same thing.
I'm going to give this a shot.

1729
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,840
However you say it, it's not
This is the way I'm going to

1730
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,680
live my life.
Exactly.

1731
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,720
To your point in that it has to
be a lifestyle change, you have

1732
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,000
to say in your mind from this
day forward, I'm not going to do

1733
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,520
this anymore and I am going to
do this.

1734
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:57,560
There's no quick fix.
There's.

1735
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,400
No quick fix.
And it's hard.

1736
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,480
Not everybody can be somebody
like me that stops drinking one

1737
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:03,840
day and that's it.
And I did.

1738
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,360
The same thing I chose not to do
certain drugs for the rest of my

1739
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,600
life.
I've never done them since

1740
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:09,520
that's.
Amazing.

1741
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,960
So baby step but have support.
Reach out to Justin he will

1742
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,800
coach you.
He will help you on your weight

1743
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,080
loss healthy lifestyle journey,
won't you?

1744
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,880
Been there done that guys.
I've been through so much like

1745
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,440
experience screams, right?
Yes, I am certified through

1746
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,920
energize health.
That's another Ave. you can go,

1747
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,760
but cool.
Yeah man, if you just want some

1748
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,840
help and assistance, I'm there.
I am there social media.

1749
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:37,280
You can always contact me, but I
have plans that you dream of

1750
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,120
participating in to see the
results.

1751
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,240
I've just found it all.
It's.

1752
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,520
Amazing.
I believe that because you have

1753
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,600
a very good vibe about you, man.
I can see why you're successful

1754
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,720
at what you do.
You make you made me feel

1755
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,800
comfortable and you're on our
show, so that's great.

1756
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,520
I love it.
So Justin Willoughby, you can

1757
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,160
find him online, Facebook,
Instagram too.

1758
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,080
Yep, Facebook, Instagram,
TikTok.

1759
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,400
I'm on all that.
YouTube £600 down podcast £600

1760
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,080
down podcast.
Burped out of my weight loss

1761
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,120
story so you can listen to that
as well.

1762
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,600
Cool.
And yeah, if you guys need

1763
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,280
anything, I'm here.
Well, huge congratulations to

1764
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,160
you man.
So like I said, once again, I'm

1765
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,440
so happy for you, man.
Appreciate it guys.

1766
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:16,400
That's an amazing story.
Definitely.

1767
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,760
We'd love to come on your show
and and talk more about whatever

1768
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,280
you need to talk about because
it's your show.

1769
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,560
But again, check out Justin
Willoughby on all the social

1770
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,120
media platforms.
YouTube £600.

1771
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,960
My £600 journey.
It's £600 down close. £600 down.

1772
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,480
Sorry, I hate when I did that.
£600 down.

1773
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,240
Fascinating human.
He's done it right.

1774
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,280
And again, we can't champion him
enough because he's been there,

1775
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,840
done that.
You, you want, you want to learn

1776
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,640
how to do things from somebody
that's been there and done that

1777
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,240
because they can relate to every
aspect of your struggle and they

1778
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,960
can help you along your journey
to change your life.

1779
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,640
That's part of the reason we do
this.

1780
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,680
So thank you for coming on and
telling your story because I

1781
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,720
think people will get a lot out
of, you know, if they're in the

1782
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,760
same position as you.
Like Chris said, you are the guy

1783
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,440
to say you can do it because
you're looking at somebody who's

1784
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:07,320
been there.
Yeah, that's huge.

1785
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,120
Yeah, and I and I've watched
those shows.

1786
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,160
I've watched the, the, the £600
life.

1787
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:13,720
So is my wife.
So I get it then.

1788
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,320
I mean, that's why somewhere
because of my questions came

1789
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,400
from because it's one of those
things that's like now we're

1790
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,280
talking to somebody that's
actually lived that life, you

1791
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,280
know, and on TV, you don't know
what's what's, what's really

1792
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,240
real or not or what's what's,
you know, written up and

1793
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,800
scripted because you got to have
the drama.

1794
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,080
So thank you so much for being
vulnerable and sharing your

1795
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,400
story with us.
That was fantastic.

1796
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,920
Love that.
I loved your transparency, your

1797
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,040
honesty and you know, your
triggers.

1798
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,480
What made you turn?
What made you shift?

1799
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:43,240
That was that's an inspiring
story.

1800
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,080
You're a superhuman because of
that.

1801
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,160
So no bullshit.
We'd love to come on your show.

1802
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,560
We'd love to have you come back
in a year.

1803
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,360
Just Tran, you know, look about
your journey again, because I

1804
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,800
think in a year you kind of
rule, you know, Arnold

1805
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,240
Schwarzenegger going on, you
know?

1806
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,200
Little little Hulk Hogan going
on.

1807
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,520
God bless his soul.
God, God, yeah, somebody's got

1808
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,680
to.
Take over for the Hulk.

1809
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,160
That's right.
What a terrible run of deaths,

1810
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:06,400
man.
I know this.

1811
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,760
Month this year, right?
It's crazy.

1812
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,800
Blew me away.
So anyway, without, and then we

1813
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,080
found out that Anne Burell, they
actually confirmed it was a

1814
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,960
suicide, which, you know, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1815
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,160
They found her unresponsive in
her in her brownstone in New

1816
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,160
York with bottles, empty bottles
and pills all around her in the

1817
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:29,160
shower, collapsed.
So it was assumed, right?

1818
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,920
But now they they confirmed it
yesterday.

1819
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,840
This goes to show you, you never
know what people are going

1820
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,760
through.
Which is why if you're feeling

1821
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,400
depressed or down, reach out to
somebody that you can talk to,

1822
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,960
journal it, you know, scream in
your room, whatever you have to

1823
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,800
do.
Don't be the person that takes

1824
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,320
your own life because somebody's
going to miss you and Somebody

1825
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,520
Loves You whether you know it or
not.

1826
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,440
Don't leave a hole in somebody
else's heart because you were

1827
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:54,560
struggling.
Reach out, find help.

1828
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,880
Tomorrow is a better day.
You'll wake up feeling a lot

1829
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,560
better.
So just find your son, find some

1830
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,760
peace today, chill out, relax,
be here tomorrow because

1831
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,200
somebody will miss you because
somebody does love you even

1832
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,040
though you don't may not realize
it or not.

1833
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,400
Mike Michaels, Kristen, Justin
Willoughby, the man behind the

1834
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,520
transformation of losing 600
lbs.

1835
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,480
So find him on all the social
medias.

1836
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,520
Justin, we totally want to have
you back on.

1837
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:18,920
Thank.
You, Yeah.

1838
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,440
Thanks again, man.
Thank you guys.

1839
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:23,040
Fantastic story.
My pleasure, thank you so much

1840
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,200
for having me today.
Y'all have great.

1841
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,720
Lives, absolutely.
We're going to put your links

1842
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,080
and stuff on our page too.
So perfect.

1843
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,600
Until next time everybody see
you.

1844
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:47,120
Peace.
The place where you will go

1845
01:25:47,160 --> 01:26:00,560
behind your
eyes.

1846
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,800
Moment look at you and see you
fight the battle.

1847
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:16,760
That's you for queer.
Fight the battle, but you for

1848
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,360
queer.
Who is this baby to you?

1849
01:26:25,800 --> 01:27:41,270
Oh yeah, who is this to you?
Come down here, we haven't

1850
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:48,950
bounced all this in the sand.
You just bump fighting wait for

1851
01:27:49,070 --> 01:27:51,110
the dead.
We're.

1852
01:27:51,310 --> 01:27:53,510
Just going to the.
Rabbit and get put in the wind.

1853
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:58,190
You ain't no creature we're
playing smile.

1854
01:27:58,190 --> 01:28:02,190
You just you quit on the
almighty day.

1855
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:08,600
You got to dream.
Who in your life to keep us all

1856
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:14,840
in every man.
Take your turn behind your eyes.

1857
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:24,240
Feel the soul revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1858
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,920
yeah, yeah.
Take a moment.

1859
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:35,840
We can see you see him fight the
battle in two more clear.

1860
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,200
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.