#127 - Acoustic Element - From South Africa to the World

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Awesome, amazing.
Welcome to YouTube and Twitch

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followers.
Yes, tuning.

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In.
Chris is Mike.

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So we are joined here.
This is really cool because

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we're actually for the first
time ever, we, well, we did

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Australia, which was another
continent, but now we're in,

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we're in Illinois, up there with
Mike, Arizona with me here and

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with these guys, they're in Cape
Town, South Africa, right?

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How's it going?
Talking to the world, literally.

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That's really cool, man.
So you guys are?

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Going to represent.
Got to got to represent

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absolutely.
So you guys are from, you guys

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represent the band, you are the
band acoustic element, correct?

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Correct.
All right, so let's talk about

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the band for a little bit.
Where how long you been

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together?
Where you playing shows or you

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know what's what's happening
behind the scenes with you guys

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and you don't share because the
whole purpose of our show is you

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want to plug the hell out of our
guests.

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So you're going to have plenty
of opportunity to plug your

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websites, your band, your dates,
your tours, your releases, all

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that kind of jazz.
So start off a little bit of

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history behind you guys, who you
are and all that kind of fun

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stuff.
So we acoustic elements, I'm

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Callan, this is Jodie and we are
cousins from Cape Town, South

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Africa and we play the violin,
guitar and Jodie Beatboxers.

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Right on.
That is so cool.

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Right now, how long you guys
been together?

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So we are, we've been doing this
for about 15 years.

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So 2010 we actually started on
Christmas Day, but we've been

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telling that story since and
it's getting really, really old.

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But it's really, it's really
cool because we just got, we

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just got kind of got a new
violin, I got a new guitar.

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And we ended up walking down the
street and someone gave us a 50

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bucks and we said, hey, we can
make money from this, you know,

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So but yeah, we've been been
doing it for a long time.

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And we've been, we just came
back from two months in Europe.

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We go pretty much every year for
the past several years now,

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doing a lot of cool shows out
there and then doing a lot of

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we're doing 186 gigs on average
a year, just to put it in

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content, in context.
When did you guys start playing

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your respective instrument?
So I started violin.

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What was it 3031 years ago when
I was six years old?

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You're.
Just making a sound.

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So I know, I mean just just say
31 years is strange because I'm

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only 25, but.
That's right.

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I've been, I've been 30 for like
20 years in a row.

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So it's me too, man.
Oh, there you go.

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And Jodie plays same amount of
time started music but plays

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every instrument under the sun.
Well, you survive, I mean,

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playing for about 2021 years.
Guitar, yeah, flamenco style

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originally.
So I've got nails on my right

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hand and and then I beatbox as
well, which I don't think many

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people do so, but Kellen's like
how to play.

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Flamenco.
That's one style I don't know.

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Oh, it's so stunning.
It just needs just you need

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flamenco.
Flamenco.

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So castanets and Spanish
essentially, yeah.

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Yeah, Spanish style guitar.
Oh yeah, OK.

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Oh yeah.
Flamenco.

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Like and like the fingers,
they're doing this.

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Yeah, OK.
Right.

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Yeah, but Jody essentially grew
up in the jazz world and I grew

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up in the classical world, so it
was an interesting fusion of the

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two, you know?
That's cool.

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One of one of the not to plug
one of the bands I was in 'cause

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this is all about Mike and I,
but we had a guitar player that

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played the the go.
The classical Godin.

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No.
Is it Godin?

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Is that what it's called the
classical Godin?

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Yeah.
So everything that he did was

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with that through a ramp.
So it, it, you know, it, it was

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cool.
I mean his his head couldn't fit

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through a door at the end, which
is why we're no longer together.

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But.
He's one of those people that

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thought he was Eddie Van Halen
at 40.

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I'm like, dude, you ain't
fucking Eddie Van Halen.

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You ain't.
By the time you're 20, you're

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not going to be Eddie Van Halen.
So you.

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Know that was sounds like Luke
the last.

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Everybody knows somebody like
that if you write in the music

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world.
Right, that was the benefit of

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MM is as humble as they come and
and there was never any.

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You know, when we were in our
band, there was number

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arrogance, there was number
egos.

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It was all for common good of
let's let's put together a

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badass set list and have a blast
playing live.

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And I hate everything I do
within the nicest way possible,

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right?
I'm always trying to do

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something better than what I did
before.

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So if you like what you heard, I
always appreciate that I can

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take a compliment, you know?
I'm glad that you like it.

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That's why I wrote it.
I liked it, too.

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Yeah.
But there's always that air of I

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can do better.
And I think that's what keeps

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you 100%, you know?
100% give a guitarist A

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pentatonic scale and then go
straight to the head.

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Exactly.
So you got, you mentioned

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earlier 182 shows a year, is
that what you said?

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On average for the past eight
years, if our content isn't

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lying to us, but we're
definitely feeling it, you know,

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you know, mid 30s, you know we.
Approach 30 every year you.

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Know you, but so we do a lot of
corporate shows we do a lot of

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corporate stuff, weddings,
private gigs and then like in

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Europe, we do funny enough, more
actual performances and shows

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like so whereas in, in Cape
Town, it's very gig based, you

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know, it's like gigs.
So so yeah, but we, we kind of

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started off doing hotels and
during residencies and we just

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created quite an established,
you know, a machine that was

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acoustic element and the
bookings thought, you know,

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we're fortunate to say it flies
in consistently for the past 10

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years.
And so we, we're lucky to be

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doing this and we've got a great
product.

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I think that's just very special
and fits into various spaces,

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you know, and we don't require
much.

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We're not Divas, so artistic.
Whoops, acoustic, I want to say

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give.
Me an example of something.

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I I know, I know.
My brain was saying autistic.

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I'm sorry.
Give me an example of somebody

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who I would know that's out
there right now that your music

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would relate to.
An artist or somebody?

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You stumped him.
You stumped him.

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Yeah.
It's really an interesting

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question.
We happened to say that that

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they're that much, they're that
original, but what genre?

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Do you know would funny enough,
but funny enough, it would be

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vitamin strings who did the
soundtrack to vitamin C, vitamin

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D, vitamin D?
Yeah, who did the soundtrack to

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Bridgeton?
Bridgeton, yeah, they would be

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similar.
They're very similar.

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To yeah, yeah, OK, OK, cool
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My.
Wife made me watch.

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My wife made me watch that.
Yeah, yeah.

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It's lovely because some text.
Guy no.

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My wife made me watch
Bridgerton, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah.
So now, yeah, cool.

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I'm looking at.
Your watch.

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Funnily enough when that show
came out, everyone.

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Funnily enough, when the show
came out we got a whole lot of

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DMS with people asking if that
was us.

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Yeah.
Really, that's cool.

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So that kind of puts you helped
you helped you go on the map

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because then somebody they could
relate to what your sound is.

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Absolutely, and especially with
the show blowing up, a lot of

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our gigs became like the
reference.

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We like Bridgeton themed, like
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Bridgeton start.
We want that kind of music.

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But with our live music actually
clean bandits.

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Clean Bandit would also be
another.

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Yeah, Clean Bandit would be
another example.

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We love Clean Bandit.
We also love Goldfish.

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OK, I'm stalking your website
right now, just so you know.

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Are you guys all independent?
Are you signed to a record

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label?
So we so we kind of very

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independent.
In fact, we're so independent we

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started an Independent Record
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So we've got OTB on the ball, on
the ball and on the ball

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studios, which is where we are
steaming from.

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And yeah, we make loads of music
with we work with various

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producers.
Yeah, we've had some some crazy

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things and times in the studio.
Let me tell you.

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Idris Albert was recently Iris
star.

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So yeah, we've we work with the
Black Coffees and the Zake

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Spontwini's of the music
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And we also record and and
podcast and live stream live,

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live entertainment.
Like right now there's a show

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happening outside in it's a live
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So that's kind of where we're at
in Cape Town at the moment,

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yeah.
Cool.

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And you just, and you just, and
you just released your fourth

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album.
A single Singles singles.

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OK, so currently acoustic
element, you know, so this is

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the other thing acoustic
element.

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Most of our music was actually
on all the DSPS as Alt Ego and

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we took that project off about a
year ago and we're currently re

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releasing this as new projects
with remixes and new versions.

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But essentially we we had a
brand called Alt Ego, which is

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essentially still us.
The Alter Ego 2 acoustic.

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It's just the electronic side of
us because we, you know, we're

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an acoustic band.
So you'll see our first albums.

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We have a Christmas album, but
our first two albums are just

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covers.
Sometimes we implement a bit of

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attacking, but a lot of the time
it's just acoustic guitar and

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violin and bebop.
But now then you, you know, as

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we we're currently focusing on
singles and Afro tech is a big

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focus for us.
Afro, we love our Afro tech and

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then some pop songs that we just
love and love, love working with

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the likes of Luke, Goliath and
the guys in the studio, which is

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South African royalty right now.
You know what I mean?

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Music royalty.
So, so because Mike and I are

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from America, right?
We have no idea what the South

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African music scene is like, but
I'm, I noticed on your website

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when you're still under, under
alt ego, that your debut single

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Get Wild peaked at #2 on South
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So put that in perspective for
us that live in America, like is

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how big how, how big of a deal
was that?

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Huge.
Yeah, well, dark our current

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single, it's also it's just
broke the top ten of the South

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African Top 40.
Label Heart, Yeah.

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Label Heart, our last one also.
Yeah, and that was a long time

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ago.
We we released Get Wild quite a

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long time ago, seven, 7-8 years
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Just 7 update. 2017, yeah.
Yeah, it was 2017.

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Yes, and so I.
I I left that part out, my bad.

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And, and we've been, and so
we've been essentially like

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touring, travelling, playing
gigs for the past seven years

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and then working to essentially
working.

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And now we have this amazing
studio space, OTB Infinity

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Studios.
And we and we, and we so proud

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to be able to make music out of
this space as well.

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So acoustic element, like all I
all I can say is there won't be

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a seven-year gap before the the
next song is dropped.

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You know what I mean?
So we, we, we, and I think the

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reason we're talking to you and
have the opportunity to talk to

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you is because we need to tell
you that and your listeners that

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and viewers need to go and check
out Acoustic Element because

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it's coming soon, you know.
Yeah, yeah.

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Well, and I mean, and the world
today with music, right?

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Nobody cares about albums.
They want singles because like,

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you know, I'm the guy that goes
on the iTunes and I buy the

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whole album because I, I just,
I, there's so many hidden gems

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in a record, right?
When when you release something

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that may not be picked up on the
radio, you may not hear it

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otherwise.
So I love buying the whole

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album.
Mike over here, he's a Spotify

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guy, so he'll just buy a track.
Whereas if I see you on iTunes

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because I'm going to go look for
you, I'll buy the whole thing

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because I want to hear it all,
you know?

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Because I love hearing
everything that an artist puts

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together because every single
piece, every single song is, is

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art in itself because it's its
own little creation.

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And can you know?
If they're capable of writing an

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entire album.
This is true.

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This is true.
There's a lot of artists that

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aren't capable of writing past
one song.

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Which I don't.
Get.

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I'll never understand it either,
but.

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No.
Did you?

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It's like a brain fart, right,
Right.

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So.
So Prince that came out with

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Prince, Prince's family, they
came out saying that they opened

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his vault and there's 20,000
fully recorded start to finish,

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songs that have never been
released before 20,000.

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I believe that was a hermit.
Right, but they were just

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touring.
Or nobody saw him, so he was

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obviously holed away writing
songs.

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That is a lot of songs.
It is a.

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Lot that is a lot of songs.
Right, because we and and we

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don't know about Eddie Van
Halen's.

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Right, because he had his own
vault.

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Too, Based on his vault there's
probably thousands more, but he

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never had a numbering system.
Right.

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He just, he's just scribbled.
Put away.

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They're just put away.
Yeah.

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Well, we have about 3 that's
just waiting for us.

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That's good.
We get into that 20,000, we get

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into that 20,000.
Listen.

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Right, you two more than.
One.

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That's two more than one.
One song I have right see, I

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have a lyric book that's
probably 3 inches thick that

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that you know, I've been, but
I've been writing since high

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school.
So it's it's it was non-stop.

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I mean, I you know, if I put it
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6-7 inches long, you know, or
long, I think.

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Whoo thick, you know.
But he showed.

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Up Are we still doing my songs
back?

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Back that's. 4 inches more than
you need.

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But that's amazing.
It's actually.

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Just the tip.
So but yeah, I think writing

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songs is a very personal like
experience, I think.

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And and I just, I'm finding that
just collaborating.

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So getting, you know, someone
who's good at it, because I

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always feel very critical about
my own work.

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But I mean, I think it's also
just about an expression and

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letting it out.
That's the main thing, right?

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And so singers and songwriters
should just get get it out in

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whichever way that is.
You know, you don't have to sing

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it yourself.
You can do whatever you want to

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with that.
Yeah.

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But we are.
It's something that.

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There's another thing about
being critical.

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If if you're critical of your
own work, I can be just as

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critical of yours as well,
right?

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There's nothing wrong with
except not accepting less than

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perfection.
If you want to be a professional

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musician, you got to throw your
emotions out the window, right?

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It's not that I don't like you,
it's just that you're not good

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enough to be in this band.
Exactly.

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I have those conversations as
well.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause,
yeah, 'cause I, I'm the, I was

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the lyricist, the vocalist.
And, you know, I wrote, I wrote

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the lyrics and whatnot, came up
with melodies based on what Mike

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generated from music standpoint.
So I could, Mike and I had this

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innate ability, we've talked
about it before.

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I could take, I could write a
song.

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Like the song you heard was
Freeman.

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We wrote that back in 93 that we
started the show with so and I

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saw you bobbing your head
jamming out.

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So that's a good reaction to
that.

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So I, I took those lyrics to
Mike, right, Thank you.

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And then and then there was
already music to that.

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But then they tweaked it and
Mike had that really cool

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ability I could give him.
I could give him song lyrics and

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say, Hey, this is here's a song
I wrote.

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And then next day of practice,
he'd have music.

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That is what I heard in my head
without he and I actually

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discussing what I heard because
I just gave him the raw lyrics,

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said here, come up with
something.

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And he's the only guitar player
I've ever worked with that was

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able to take emotion out of my
lyrics and turn it into music.

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And it always fit.
Just always fit.

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Got to mention.
Yeah, sometimes you also just

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need the person the correct
connection with.

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Something right, exactly.
So you guys got that kind of?

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Chemistry for sure, right?
Right.

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So do you guys have that dynamic
when you're writing songs?

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Oh.
We have that our whole life.

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It's crazy because we've been
doing this for quite a long time

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and that's the the, the
connection weird.

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Like we get sick of this
something like like, you know,

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something happened on my right.
Feels like, no way, something

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like something.
But so we're so connected, it's

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a bit scary.
And when we're playing, I think

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performing wise is actually
where the magic happens.

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Funny enough, when it comes to
studio, it's a different

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experience.
It is.

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We like getting each other space
in the studio.

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Yeah, Studios are completely
different experience in general

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to every.
That's a very personal thing as

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well, I think.
Yeah, but.

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I love those moments.
I love those moments where when

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you're playing live, there's no
word spoken, but you, you 2 know

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exactly what's going on, right?
When you have that look that

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nobody else knows, it's like the
it's like somebody plugged you

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into a socket and you're on the
same circuit, right?

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Yeah, yeah.
Insane.

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But it goes more than that.
My rest will get.

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My rest will get so.
And then I'll be like, Judy,

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were you playing golf or paddle
yesterday?

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Yeah, it sounds weird, but like,
it sounds weird.

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And those, like moments where
you're like, I actually thought

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about this, like, no.
Or like I'll say something that

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kind of like, no, I was just
thinking about that, like,

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weird.
But it's got to be music as an

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energy transfer.
And I believe that, yeah.

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Also, we can feel the energy of
the audience in front of us all

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the time.
And that kind of determines the

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where the set goes.
And then at the end of it, you

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know.
You just know.

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You know.
When you know, you do.

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And that's the biggest
difference.

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I don't think a lot of people
understand that aren't

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musicians, that what you do live
is equivalent to 10 practices,

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right?
And, and you feed off the energy

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and then you learn how to kind
of improv with the songs from at

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least that lyrically and, and so
do the music, right?

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And then when you're in the
studio, it's there's the

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energy's not there.
I mean, it's there, but you

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don't.
You don't have something to feed

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off because you don't.
Way harder to create that

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energy.
Yeah, you're.

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So definitely.
Definitely that's one of the

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hardest things to do as a
musician going into the studio,

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you know, after playing your
songs out live and and getting a

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use of that adrenaline rush and
that euphoric how you get from,

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you know, watching the crowd and
and then you got to go in and

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like.
Well, that's why it's so

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heartbreaking when you find out
that some of your famous idols

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and heroes couldn't cut it in
the studio.

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Like one of the most
heartbreaking moments to me was

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the Train kept a Rolling song
from Aerosmith was not Joe

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Perry.
He couldn't cut it.

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Then he didn't play that solo in
the studio.

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It broke my heart when I learned
that.

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I was like, what the hell?
He learned it later on, he

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became a better player.
He learned how to play in the

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studio.
But Chris is 1,000,000% right?

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And you guys know, being in the
studio all the time, some guys

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go in there and they freeze up
every time A. 100%, yeah.

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Oh, it's it's not even a matter
of can't doing it, it's knowing

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that I can do better.
Yeah.

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So as as a, I'm a Virgo
perfectionist, I'll be like, I

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can't even, I can't even listen
to this anymore.

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Like because it's just like, you
know, it's recorded already.

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It's done.
And I'm like, I can still do it

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better.
Every time I play it live it

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sounds better.
Yeah, just add reverb A.

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Little delay, Yeah.
Little little reverb, you know.

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Just a twinkle.
Yeah, we, Callum's obviously the

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perfectionist.
And I mean, to be honest, I'm

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the one in this case.
We would have the yips in golf.

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We call it the yips in the
studio.

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And Callum's pretty, pretty darn
flippin accurate.

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I mean, he is a violinist.
They are highly, they're known

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to be highly strunk.
But I must say it is a pleasure

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working with him in the city
because he makes it, makes it

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easy.
Yeah.

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Although, although you do need
you didn't, we love a good

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collab and, and we collab with
Jimmy Nevis on the on the track

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rebel heart.
And you know, it's a game

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changer, you know, for the not
only for the algorithm, but just

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for radio and just the talking
points in South Africa.

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He's an he's a bit of an icon
and you know, Jimmy Nevis, shout

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out to him.
He couldn't be on the podcast

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because he's got a gig tonight.
But you know, he does send his

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best to you guys as well.
Oh, right on.

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OK, so here's a question.
Here's a question.

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So it's it's 11:30 AM in
Arizona.

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What time is it in Cape Town?
8:24 PM.

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On August 8th, that's like.
August 8th, yes.

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OK, OK.
Wow.

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Indeed, that's.
Great, that's.

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Great.
Yeah, we just got back from

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Austria.
Right on.

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Now we have.
We have we have fans in Austria

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for the show, right Mike?
That was the first country that

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tuned in when we very first
started the show.

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There's like 4% of our
listenership.

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So another shout out to Austria.
Thanks for hanging in there with

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us.
Amazing.

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You guys do look a little bit
like Austrians, like big stung

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men, you know, That's that.
He is.

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I'm just pale.
The studio lighting by you makes

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you look very tanned.
Thank.

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You.
We just spent 2 two months

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touring in Austria.
So actually last year we did we

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with this brand they called
Gastina Gastina.

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It's essentially a soda water
well, the flavoured flavoured

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water from the Gastina Austria.
And they also support music and

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tours.
And so last year we opened for

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Kings Of Leon.
Let me show you.

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Oh sweet, why?
Exactly, King of Leon Mulky

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chants and the cooks we opened
for them last year.

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Did you get to meet Kings Of
Leon?

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The guys.
Unfortunately not.

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They flew in a private jet
acoustic element, but we were

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chatting with the cooks and
Mulky chants most of the day.

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Yeah, nice guys.
Nice guys.

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The Kings.
The Kings, unfortunately.

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In and out, yeah.
They superstars.

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I mean, we were also, we took
our parents with us to the gig.

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So they flew up to Austria.
So it was quite a special

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moment.
So after after our our

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performance, we were kind of
with our parents doing the

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things and we didn't really
care.

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But I mean, realized what was
happening.

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But there was some drama with
the kings coming in on a private

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jet.
And I was like, this is so cool.

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But what an awesome concert to
be at.

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Like they were.
They were epic.

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That's good.
That's well.

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They're just at, they're like at
the point where I always like to

453
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,080
say music levels, right?
You start out in your bedroom,

454
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200
you end up playing in maybe a
party for your buddies.

455
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,640
Then you're playing at your high
school dance or something.

456
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,560
You know, there's levels.
Of professionalism.

457
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,160
Those guys have reached a
pinnacle where they have no

458
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320
other choice but to live and
tour the.

459
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,200
Way they do 100 percent, 100%, I
mean.

460
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,320
You'll never, never get anything
done.

461
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,040
Exactly, I I look, I don't, I
fuck.

462
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,720
So that I, I mean, I wouldn't, I
wouldn't do it any other way.

463
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,680
But we were talking to the
organizers of the the festival a

464
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,800
couple of a year later and and
we only found out like recently,

465
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,720
they on the rider on the King's
rider.

466
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,640
They they have off stage.
They have to have what's it

467
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,160
called?
A letterbox.

468
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,640
A letterbox on stage for the
guys to if they if they need to

469
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,120
take a piss.
Oh my God.

470
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,480
That's.
Seriously.

471
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,160
And they I would just they got.
Wow.

472
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,480
And they?
If I had, if I had the pee, just

473
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,120
I would look at Mike like I'm
going and then they would just

474
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,560
jam out or something like
fucking litter box.

475
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520
That's just insane.
Oh, he did it.

476
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,360
Maybe the wild Yeah, like go
take a leak.

477
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,880
Just extend your solo a little
bit, all right?

478
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,520
Yeah, literally I got.
You run off stage and come back

479
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,600
on.
I'll just be on stage.

480
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,920
If you.
Like the Chili Peppers, just go

481
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,640
out there in your socks.
Socks, right?

482
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,120
Imagine the sock fell off.
I'm like, how do you keep the

483
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,280
sock on right?
I'm sure they must be double

484
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,040
sided tape or something.
Probably super glued to it.

485
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:06,160
It would hurt taking that off.
OK, so you drop, you drop Kings

486
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,440
Of Leon.
What's other what's some other

487
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280
worldwide acts that you guys
have played with or or opened

488
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840
for or collaborated with, you
know, festivals, things like

489
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,120
that, that that people would
know?

490
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,200
Well, I will say in our
audience, there's been a lot of

491
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,240
really cool people.
Bill Gates.

492
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Roger Federer.
Roger Federer, Nadal.

493
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,920
OK.
Morgan Freeman.

494
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,360
Justin Bieber.
Justin Bieber, Charlize Theron,

495
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,080
My.
Actor hero Charlize Theron.

496
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,880
She's a.
Hot Morgan Freeman was such, you

497
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480
know, from Benoni, from South
Africa, by the way.

498
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Morgan Freeman's from South
Africa.

499
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
Is he really?
No, no, no, no, Charlize Theron.

500
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,880
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I.

501
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:47,880
Was like.
Whoa.

502
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,000
But Morgan Freeman did play
Nelson Mandela.

503
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,880
He did.
He did, Yes.

504
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,640
He did right?
Yes.

505
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,480
She is a monster there.
OK, I'm kidding.

506
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:02,400
So all those people, so all
those people you dropped are

507
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320
those, did you have a chance to
connect with them?

508
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280
As far as them, I mean, they're
in your audience.

509
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240
Most of.
Them OK A. 100% yeah.

510
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240
We, we've sometimes have the
privilege of doing so and

511
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,840
sometimes, unfortunately not.
Like with Bieber, we just had

512
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,440
interactions over 2 days because
we were playing at the hotel he

513
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,040
was staying at with Morgan
Freeman.

514
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,560
He walked past, we had words
with him, you know, and, and

515
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,720
there's some special memories
with some really cool beeps.

516
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Yeah, like, sure.
Yeah, we kind of like the fact

517
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,400
that we not always the band that
essentially is being, you know,

518
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,720
the headline act every time, but
we also the band that like the

519
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800
people, the rich and famous, we
always say like, you know, the

520
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Hollywood a listers, They we
like the ones they book for

521
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,720
their private function, you
know, that's where we sit.

522
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560
So yeah.
Because you're you're really you

523
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,640
would probably be a really good
back count background music

524
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,200
without interrupting the flow of
what's going on exactly.

525
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,840
And we know when to turn it up.
Right.

526
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,040
And and the fact that you play
violin and guitar, I'm sure, I'm

527
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,000
sure you get a lot of focus on
your violin playing because

528
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,360
violinist.
Massive ass.

529
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,360
Like, absolutely.
And, and especially when when I

530
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:11,520
know as as a musician, when I go
see a band and a violinist comes

531
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,160
out on stage, regardless of what
type of band I'm singing, it's

532
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,560
instant credibility.
Oh yeah.

533
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,320
It's just it's like, 'cause you.
Know they're a real musician.

534
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,360
There's no fake violinist out
there.

535
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,680
You.
Can't you?

536
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,320
Can't air violin.
You can't air violin.

537
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,400
You know you can't.
Well, actually Justin Bieber air

538
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,800
violin to me.
You did did it really right on.

539
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Let me ask you this.
You're a violinist.

540
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,720
Can you learn to play the violin
in the same way that you learn

541
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,040
to play a guitar?
Like, I don't read music right.

542
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560
I play by ear.
Do you know people out there

543
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,040
that have become successful
famous violinist without

544
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,920
actually learning the proper
technique?

545
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,800
I don't know, actually.
I think you have to get through

546
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440
the whole.
I think you have to go through

547
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,320
the whole classical training.
OK, that kind of answers my

548
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,920
question, but here I'll give you
an example.

549
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120
Like in the old Southern rock
bands, you had what they called

550
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,920
fiddle players, right?
Yeah.

551
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,640
Yeah, those guys learn how to
play a violin growing up in

552
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,000
school.
Or did they learn by ear?

553
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,240
I guess, well, here's the thing,
there's always a technique

554
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,160
because a violin doesn't have
threats, correct, right.

555
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,200
So where where you play a
guitar, if you put your finger

556
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600
down that anyway in that gap,
that's the note.

557
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,600
But a violin a millimetre off
is.

558
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,320
A different note, it's so small.
Exactly.

559
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,680
Well, is it so we actually have?
To sorry that was so rude.

560
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,680
So you have to, whether you, you
learn it by yourself, there's so

561
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,120
many different techniques.
There's, there's a left hand, a

562
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,000
right hand ear and just the
positioning.

563
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,000
I, I, I don't know of any person
who's not had lessons.

564
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,760
That's why I'm agreeing with.
Chris, it's instant.

565
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,720
Credibility because you're
thinking that person is a real

566
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,280
musician.
No matter, you know, the rest of

567
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,120
us, a lot of us are imposters.
My, I consider myself an

568
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,400
imposter.
I love to play.

569
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,920
I love.
Me too sometimes.

570
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760
Music that I make.
But you know, we had a guy,

571
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800
Joseph Cloud, on the show.
True musician.

572
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,800
He understands theory.
He explains it on his Facebook

573
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,600
page and Instagram.
You can tell the guy knows what

574
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,040
he's doing.
He's a classically trained

575
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,480
guitarist.
I felt like a moron talking to

576
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,880
him.
Nice guy, but he really puts get

577
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,400
you in your place right?
Yeah.

578
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Yeah, I'm just really
reinforcing Chris's point.

579
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,640
You guys are true musicians in
my eyes.

580
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Yeah, I was just a singer.
I don't think you did.

581
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280
Yes.
Something we wish we could do,

582
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,560
by the way.
We really do.

583
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,560
Yeah, we often speak about how.
Sing Yeah.

584
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Yeah, me too.
No, no.

585
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,680
That's Chris's.
Department yeah yeah, yeah.

586
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Well, you know, we could always
we could always we could always

587
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,640
get you guys to do some do some
work on one of our we're going

588
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,160
to re record our stuff from 93
probably like at least 8 songs.

589
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,440
I would say make an EP out of
it.

590
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,360
It'd be cool to have violin
perfect, I was thinking.

591
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,160
Send us the check.
Yeah, I think it'd be cool, man.

592
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,600
We're going to find a spot for
sure.

593
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Yeah, yeah.
Let's go, because you.

594
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Know and it's like.
Elaborations as well.

595
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,160
Right, right.
And the cool thing about the

596
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,560
world today, we can do it from
from here and there and there.

597
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960
We can work anyway.
You know Exactly, yeah.

598
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
So that's the one thing that
Covet taught us too, right?

599
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Magicians could be in different
parts of the world and still put

600
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240
songs together, you know?
Exactly.

601
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Yeah, that's unique.
So what's the What's?

602
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Embassy for children during
covet.

603
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Go ahead.
Sorry, have you ever seen those,

604
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,520
those, those virtual orchestras
and choirs on during Corbett

605
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,800
where they would get like 40
different people all playing

606
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,200
from different parts around the
world?

607
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,760
It's.
Insane.

608
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520
That's one of the most famous
ones.

609
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,640
From Yeah, Mike.
It's well.

610
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,800
John Paul Jones, Led Zeppelin
did one of the most famous ones.

611
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,600
I believe he did the battle
evermore maybe?

612
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Oh yeah, I think that's what he
did.

613
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640
There was cool man.
There, there we should do.

614
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,520
We'll do a cutting position.
No.

615
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
OK.
So, so here's a question for

616
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,880
you.
Like like what are your guys's

617
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080
right?
Like right now, if, if, if, if I

618
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,120
had to say, give me the top
three bands you're listening to,

619
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,200
who you're listening to.
Can't you?

620
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,600
I've listened to a lot of jungle
I'm I'm loving.

621
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400
I'm listening to Oracles.
Oracles.

622
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Helen loves oracles.
We've been inspired by anything

623
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,040
with with.
With instrument.

624
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Instrumental.
Yeah, So what Oracles is this

625
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,040
French producer and DJ who live
mixes with the orchestra behind

626
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,960
him and he composes everything
that he does.

627
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,920
So that's quite magical too.
But I do like the I love the

628
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,520
kooks, actually.
And but that's, you know, that's

629
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,440
what else?
Luke, who are you listening to

630
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320
right now?
This is the producer that

631
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,160
produced Rebel Heart.
He actually just stepped into

632
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,920
studio so.
Cool.

633
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,280
What's up?
Man, Hey, what's up, man?

634
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,640
That's.
It Mike guys good.

635
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,480
That's the legend behind most of
the bangers that come out of

636
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800
Cape Town at the moment checking
out.

637
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
True to a producer, he goes
right off the screen.

638
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Yeah, he's the shy.
He's the shy type, you know, But

639
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,240
it's all the the music.
Chris had to drag drag me out of

640
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
my shell too, to do this show.
So yeah, I asked him to do the

641
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,560
show and then he taught me how
to be a little more open.

642
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Yeah, Extrovert I could talk to.
Yeah, I could talk to anybody

643
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,000
for hours, man, You know,
because that's just elite

644
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,320
singers.
You got to go out in front of

645
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,800
everybody, right, And be
completely vulnerable to make it

646
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,320
in front of the world.
So you learn after doing that

647
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,680
for years, it's like this is
nothing.

648
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,520
This is just having a
conversation.

649
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Which is if I was just talking
music, I can do that all day

650
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160
long.
Some of these other ones it it's

651
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,080
definitely been an eye opening
experience for sure.

652
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Yeah, yeah.
It's yeah, it's quite funny.

653
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,360
We we're a live band, but you
know, our experience of music, I

654
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080
think in especially being from
Cape Town or being from South

655
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Africa is, you know, you're
getting just influences from all

656
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
kind of types of.
So we're very open to, you know,

657
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,560
to different types and styles of
music and not sit on one genre.

658
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,520
SoCal and I specifically, we
like techno tech house, Afro

659
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560
house.
You know a lot of, we listen to

660
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,120
a lot of Afro house and Afro
tech.

661
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,880
You know some.
Of the stuff, yeah, some of the

662
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,360
stuff you're dropping is going
right over my head.

663
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,840
What's Afro house?
Afro house is Luke.

664
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Can you give up a little?
Pretty much house music but with

665
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,440
like African travel drums.
There you go.

666
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240
House music with epic and tribal
drums.

667
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,560
OK, I would probably love that.
Yeah, me too, because I saw.

668
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,640
That you heard the beginning of
that?

669
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,760
That's what I asked my drummer
to do, was more like a tribal

670
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,200
beat at the beginning of that
song.

671
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,840
I love those kind of beat.
Yeah, we're dropping a song very

672
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,400
soon.
I'll send.

673
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,920
I'll give you a little free
cursor.

674
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Yes.
Awesome.

675
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Let.
Me, let me also do love.

676
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960
What is your guys's favorite
part like?

677
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880
I have two favorite parts of the
process.

678
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,480
I love songwriting.
I love sitting down with Chris

679
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,080
and creating something new,
right?

680
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,960
And then I love playing live.
What are your two favorite parts

681
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,600
of being a musician?
Oh definitely play it live for

682
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,920
me.
Yeah, yeah, right.

683
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,040
That's my name playing live is
so much fun for sure right.

684
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,120
You guys produce as well,
though.

685
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,920
I mean you're making because the
recording is I can.

686
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
It depends who in the business.
I ask because some people will

687
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,480
love seeing the like Luke just
loves all the glory, you know?

688
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,720
So once the song is done, mixed
and masked with it and everyone

689
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880
you know, he just loves getting
all the followers and likes on

690
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Instagram and.
But nothing wrong with him.

691
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,360
Kalin loves the in many other
ways, but he hates the the shine

692
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,440
and and it's a beautiful thing
to watch not but and he creates

693
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,679
the shine.
I think I enjoy orchestrating

694
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,440
the I enjoy making, doing
everything behind the scenes.

695
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,639
Making things happen.
And getting a little bit of like

696
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,600
shine, but not too much with,
not with not too much

697
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,679
responsibility because that's.
You and I would have that in

698
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,480
common.
Yeah, with the same.

699
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,560
There we go.
Exactly.

700
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,760
Yeah.
I like when.

701
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480
He's very much understanding
what he does on his page.

702
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,360
Yeah.
He's very much undeciding what

703
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
he does, but.
A little.

704
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Yeah, I dig it all.
I just want to jam.

705
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,639
That's been my thing.
I just, I don't care how we jam.

706
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,080
I just want to jam, you know,
whether it's in practicing or

707
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640
whether it's in front of 10
people or 10,000 people.

708
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,160
I just love the jam.
I just.

709
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Yeah, we have that philosophy.
Yeah, which is good, right?

710
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,880
It's the best way to approach it
man.

711
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,880
I'll tell you in this tour that
we did with Austria now, there

712
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,960
was a gig that had thousands of
people and there was a gig that

713
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,280
literally had two people and
same energy.

714
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,720
Right, because that's the that's
but that's the musicians, right?

715
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,760
That's the world we live in
because you don't know when you

716
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,240
like Mike said earlier when you
first start out, there was a

717
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,160
clip, squirrel, squirrel.
There was a clip I saw on on

718
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Instagram or Facebook the other
day was a real and shit you not

719
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,720
Guns and roses on a corner
stage, right?

720
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,840
Like a figure like it looked
like a 10 by 10 room.

721
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,800
They're on a corner stage
standing there fucking just

722
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,160
singing.
Nobody's in the audience.

723
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,880
There's like maybe two people in
front of them just standing

724
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,440
there and.
It said something like these

725
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,560
people had no idea what they
were witnessing.

726
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,840
Yeah, and nobody does, and you
don't.

727
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200
And you don't know where it's
going to go because you think

728
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,280
you have something, but the
world has to accept what you

729
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,160
have, right?
So, so you can stand on a stage

730
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
in front of two people and
that's it for the rest of your

731
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440
time as a musician.
Or you start getting four

732
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,160
people, then 10 people, then 12
people.

733
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,800
Like we.
Our, our band nemesis.

734
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,480
It was a time before all the
social media stuff we had to go

735
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,240
# the Pavement put up Flyers and
shit and we grew our, our

736
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,760
following from nothing to where
we were.

737
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080
We were, we were packing the
house and opening them for bands

738
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,000
like Marshall Tucker Band and
Sacred Reich and and Tony

739
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840
McAlpine, because we built it
all organically, kind of like

740
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360
what we're doing with this show.
And it gives you so much more

741
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,520
credibility and joy for what
you're doing because you watch,

742
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,960
you've watched how you've grown
as, as.

743
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Yeah, we rely on people like you
being on the show and then going

744
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,120
and telling all your buddies,
hey man, we had a good time.

745
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,440
You'd like being on here as
well.

746
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,080
It's a good way to promote
yourself that.

747
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,800
Way.
Yeah, like what Chris is saying

748
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,920
is the word of mouth, you're
going to you're going to rely on

749
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,280
the word of your buddy, right?
You're not going to rely on the

750
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,960
word of an e-mail coming in
saying, hey, listen to the Chris

751
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,320
and Mike show.
You're going to throw that right

752
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,600
in the trash just like I'm going
to.

753
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,240
But you know if if one of you or
the.

754
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,720
Other.
By themselves and went back and

755
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,640
told the other hey now you got
to go on here because I had a

756
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,800
great time that's going to mean
something we.

757
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Went. 21 countries.
Right.

758
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Yeah, that's amazing about it.
Well done because.

759
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,920
You know, thank you.
Yeah, Thank you.

760
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,480
Thank you.
So.

761
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Welcome to South Africa.
I mean, yeah.

762
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,280
Thank you.
Thank you.

763
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,160
That's so cool.
One of my one of my good friends

764
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,400
when I moved to Arizona is named
Darryl Haldane.

765
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,720
He was from South Africa,
originally from England, but he

766
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,840
grew up in South Africa, so I
heard a lot about it when I was

767
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,160
living in Arizona.
We love, we love this country,

768
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,880
man.
It's a lot of.

769
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600
I learned how you guys like to
smoke your weed.

770
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,160
We do, we do, We do like to
smoke the meat.

771
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,640
You.
Actually, Oh yeah, that's called

772
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,120
a.
Yeah.

773
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,600
I personally don't look, but I'm
getting excited, you know, but

774
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,120
but it's a thing.
It's called a.

775
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,200
It's called a.
What's it called?

776
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,440
It's got, it's got like a
nickname to it.

777
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,280
I can't think of what it.
Was it's not a spliff.

778
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,040
But yeah, a spliff.
Yeah, we call it a spliff.

779
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Exactly.
A spliff.

780
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Yeah, it's a spliff.
Yeah.

781
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,400
I wasn't lying to you.
I knew this guy.

782
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Yeah.
So are you guys, are you guys

783
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,160
married, got wives, kids, any of
that?

784
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360
No, we are unmarried, actually.
OK.

785
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,920
We don't have wives and we don't
have kids.

786
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,520
It's been, it's been pretty
rock'n'roll, but also like very

787
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,280
chilled.
Like also not to rock'n'roll,

788
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,760
but we we tend to, we tend to
rock'n'roll.

789
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:49,480
Yeah, you know.
Rock'n'roll 2025 style.

790
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,800
Right there.
You go, you know, Yeah.

791
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Go hard and then be healthy.
There you go.

792
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,160
Yeah.
Exactly, exactly.

793
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Yes, very much of that.
So like so cuz like OK.

794
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Body hard and run a marathon
there.

795
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,920
You go, right?
Oh, OK.

796
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,840
So are you a runner?
You're a runner.

797
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,400
We keep fucks.
We keep.

798
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,440
I've done a, We've done a few
half marathons.

799
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,240
We still haven't done a.
Marathon We.

800
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Just left check.
OK, All right, Well, we're going

801
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
to check this out because I'll
show you on the wall here there

802
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,200
you.
Go you got a hot button issue.

803
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,160
There you go My wife and I have
been running since 2015.

804
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,400
We've probably done 100 half
marathons.

805
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,360
Oh wow, that's just that's just
that's just some of it I have.

806
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,960
Why is this thing not going the
right way?

807
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,520
I know I have like 3 or 4 boxes
worth of metals and then we

808
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,840
actually take the medals because
we.

809
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,720
Run.
Unbelievable.

810
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,960
The races together and we take
them and and we actually donate

811
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800
them to a Phoenix Children's
Hospital, which is obviously a

812
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,920
hospital get around kids.
And though when the kids go in

813
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,400
for surgery, they give them a
medal to be brave.

814
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,320
So because we do the same races,
right?

815
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,680
That's awesome.
So because we did the same

816
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,200
races, we always would get 2
medals.

817
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,920
So we would box them up and take
them to them and then you know,

818
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
so yeah.
And and South Africa.

819
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,480
You have.
Olympic, Yeah, you guys are all

820
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,800
about runners from a from a from
a sporting standpoint, you have

821
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,640
some serious runners.
Yeah, Grace, the Olympics for

822
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,960
sure.
Oh yeah.

823
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Massively yes, when you can
actually group.

824
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,360
I mean, he's dated my cousin.
We're not like 20 years ago and

825
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,320
like now he's like this crazy.
I'm just like, bro, like you're

826
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,200
making the rest of us look bad.
Slow down.

827
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,880
Slow.
Down.

828
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,560
But what is the population of
South Africa?

829
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:43,520
Yeah, we are. 16.
I think it's 80 million people

830
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,440
if I'm not mistaken, and Cape
Town's 4 million around those

831
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,920
numbers, yeah.
OK, Yeah.

832
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600
So you guys had you guys,
unfortunately, Oscar Pistorius,

833
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,880
that's what you just referred
to, right?

834
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,080
That guy kind of kind of made a
bad little.

835
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,160
Choice.
Yeah, he's, he's from Pretoria.

836
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,920
I wouldn't call that a bad
little choice, yeah.

837
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,560
But funny enough, he's, he's
like, he's just ran a race, like

838
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,920
a race in somewhere in the
world, not in South Africa.

839
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,600
So he's back on the on the
circuit, Yeah.

840
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,040
OK.
Yeah, we like it actually makes

841
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,040
me think of like the Austrians,
like I'll be back like that.

842
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,120
He should have been Austrian.
Yeah, yeah.

843
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,600
So I, I googled, I Googled the
South African Olympians.

844
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,840
You guys had a Baywaza, the
Olympic, the Olympic splinter.

845
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,440
This Yeah, he's Baywaza, a young
South African splinter.

846
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,840
He's rising to prominence with
his unique running style and

847
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,400
impressive performances.
Apparently, he won.

848
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,440
He won a couple 100 and 200
meter races gold at the World

849
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Athletics in 2024.
Our sports do very well at the

850
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,880
moment.
Our rugby players are two. 3.

851
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Times.
Is that the big sport?

852
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,000
Is that the big sport?
Or the rugby champions.

853
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,840
Rugby, OK.
You've got you've got some great

854
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,960
golfers and cricketers as well,
to be honest.

855
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,120
Yeah, yeah.
Who's the, who's the?

856
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,040
I know I'm going to ask this
question.

857
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,640
You're going to say the name?
I'm like, Oh yeah, who's the,

858
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Who's the the golfers from South
Africa?

859
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Louis Louis was stays in.
We've got obviously any else

860
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,920
Gary.
Gary Player.

861
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,240
Gary Player, yeah.
That's.

862
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,720
What we've actually, we've
played for Gary Player several

863
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,880
times as well.
He's he's an absolute legend.

864
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Well, when he's in South Africa,
yeah, of course.

865
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Gary Player, yes.
Who else?

866
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,520
I mean, Trevor Amulman, he's now
a commentator on the PGA Sports.

867
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,440
But but of late or so that we've
got some young up, up and coming

868
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,240
golfers that are just crazy.
There's one lefty that's

869
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,600
literally from one of my
favorite courses out here that's

870
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,400
playing so well at the moment.
Yeah, yeah, right on.

871
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,280
We we, we tend to love our
sports and ball games in South

872
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,960
Africa.
Yeah.

873
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,760
Yeah, well, you have to, man.
Yeah, everybody, everybody has

874
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,040
their thing.
I didn't realize that that

875
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,400
rugby, rugby and cricket and
golf, pretty pretty are the

876
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,680
pretty big ones.
Yeah, the three.

877
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,280
Big, but rugby, rugby be pretty
indestructible at the moment.

878
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Like no one click yeah.
That's the the the movie with

879
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Morgan Freeman we played Nelson
Mandela is based on our 95 Rugby

880
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,320
World Cup.
Yes, I remember that movie.

881
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,400
OK, cool.
Right on.

882
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,280
Yeah, rugby's the legit football
man, because you know, our

883
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
American football is a bunch of
wussies now that I I bruised my

884
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,520
leg, I got to sit out for three
weeks and rugby, you're just

885
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,360
fucking going down the field and
you get just checked and just.

886
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Smashed.
Like, you know, 5 feet you

887
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,640
bounce off the ground.
Yeah, like, you know.

888
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,080
They should, they should
incorporate that into the NFL

889
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,240
because that would be more
entertaining than this, you

890
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:46,480
know, little wimpy ass baby
stuff, you know, Yeah.

891
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,800
It's ridiculous, but it's a
different it's a different

892
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,080
thing, especially having a
helmet.

893
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,960
I mean, and if I was pretty bad
ass because having having a

894
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,320
helmet is you, I mean you just
forcing the you know, you you're

895
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,360
lying to yourself about the
amount of pressure you're

896
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,520
putting on your like a tactic.
Yeah, yeah, We had a, we had a

897
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,640
boxing coach on this morning,
which was our real little

898
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,000
scheduling conflict.
We had to move him up because we

899
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,160
couldn't talk to him last week.
So Mike had brought up the the

900
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,960
CT ES, the the what the hell are
those concussions?

901
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Right.
Right, yeah, and, and so boxers,

902
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,240
when they spar, they're wearing
those little helmets, you know,

903
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,280
not, not the full.
Bone head, I'm talking.

904
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:28,600
The headgear right?
And the discussion kind of went

905
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040
to where it's actually more
detrimental having the headgear

906
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,240
cause the glove hits the
headgear, then the headgear hits

907
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,160
the head.
It's like a double hit.

908
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,880
Right.
You know, I remember as a kid

909
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,560
playing football in the front
yard, no pads, nothing.

910
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,720
And you're just, you know,
you're trying to just score in

911
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,840
this 10 yard thing and you're
running as fast as you can.

912
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,280
You just get destroyed and you
just pop back up and you just

913
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,800
pop back up, you know?
The one thing I'll give them

914
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,040
credit for is they built some of
the largest human beings on the

915
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,080
planet.
This is true, This is true.

916
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,840
Do we have any football players
from from from South Carolina?

917
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,280
I'm South Carolina from South
Africa.

918
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,600
I'm sure there's one or two, but
yeah, there's a friend of mine

919
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
who literally got up on a
scholarship recently, so I

920
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,200
definitely know what's
happening.

921
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Also the also the NFL is coming
hot into South Africa at the

922
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,080
moment.
So it's just issue Johannesburg,

923
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,200
but also into Cape Town.
Yeah.

924
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,440
So basketball's really being
supported by we've got, you

925
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,520
know, we've got a few big
people.

926
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,000
Yeah.
So it should be the way.

927
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,720
It should be that way.
Yeah.

928
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:32,240
So are you guys fans of the NFL?
I've loved it for, I mean, many

929
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,160
years We used to I used to play
Madden 95 on on on PlayStation.

930
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Like, I mean, yeah, not
currently up to up to date with

931
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200
like what's happening, but I
mean, a big fan of the sport and

932
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,360
everything around the sport.
Yeah, right.

933
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,040
On.
That's cool.

934
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:58,240
Just try and spend well, you
know, we've it's the first time

935
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,600
we've seen each other after
spending two months with each

936
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,000
other in in Austria until we
play 21 shows out there so.

937
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,840
We had a bit of a week break so
this.

938
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,320
Is just moved into his new
apartment.

939
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,600
And yeah, we're trying to just
actually decompress after a

940
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,800
crazy tour with, you know, the
Austrians.

941
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Yeah, yeah.
Well, there you go.

942
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,520
What other countries?
What's exciting?

943
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,400
What's happening in?
Well, no, I played.

944
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,720
I want to talk about you.
What's what other what other

945
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,400
cool countries have you have you
guys played in like something

946
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,240
that that nobody even think of
that you that you were, you

947
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,880
know, playing in and toured in?
Goa.

948
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:38,320
That was a random country in
India, Yeah, it took us like 36

949
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,440
hours to get there.
Yeah.

950
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,400
At one point we thought we were
being trafficked, but it's we

951
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,280
will be fine.
At one point we thought we were,

952
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,880
we were, we were being taken.
Really.

953
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Like legitimately or just
fucking around?

954
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,440
Yeah, yeah.
It's just, it's just, you know,

955
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,880
I mean, when you're in a car for
said in my diamond, it's just

956
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,800
you sing a cow and then it's
just like a lot's happening and

957
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,360
then you like they.
Changed the hotel.

958
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Changed the hotel the last
second and no one.

959
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,680
We just like, we're going, yeah,
they're like, no.

960
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,800
And we're like OK, OK.
And they take us.

961
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,480
We have a.
And then they took us.

962
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,440
India is as chaotic as it
appears.

963
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,400
I think it's flipping chaotic.
I mean, we haven't seen much of

964
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,760
it, but we've we've done
Maldives, we've done Awaiting

965
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,960
the Maldives, which was
fantastic.

966
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,320
Also.
Santorini is amazing.

967
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,640
We've done Dubai, Qatar, Lake
Como also.

968
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,800
This is not, this is not a
different country.

969
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,960
But you guys have Burning Man,
yeah?

970
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Yes, yes.
Right.

971
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,840
We've got Africa burn and we
played there twice and it it

972
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,640
feels like a different country.
It's like it's playing in on the

973
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,240
moon, yeah.
OK, OK, that's cool.

974
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,040
I've never been to Burning Man
because I didn't see the desire

975
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,160
to stand and watch some guy burn
alive, you know?

976
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:54,480
But don't bump.
Luckily, that's not happening in

977
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Africa.
Like, you know, it's just.

978
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,760
What's what's your guys?
This is this is this is totally

979
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,360
off topic.
What's your guys weather like

980
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600
right right now in Arizona,
we're in the midst of this crazy

981
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,640
heat streak where it's like the
last last three days we've like

982
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,000
115 to 120, you know, like it's,
you know, it's fucking sucks.

983
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,240
What's is that hot in South
Africa?

984
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Kind of.
You've been at Fahrenheit.

985
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Oh yeah, degrees.
Yeah.

986
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,640
I don't know if Fahrenheit
actually, but it is.

987
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Exceptionally hot in Celsius in
South Africa.

988
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,400
So even in our winter goes to
about 14°.

989
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,760
Currently like 4, it's hovering
around 14, yeah.

990
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,400
Yeah, but Sun's still. 3:50 sun
sun setting at like 8-8 ish Nah

991
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,480
70 inches to 7°.
OK, yeah, I know you should get

992
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,000
a jacket on.
Yeah, I wouldn't wear a jacket.

993
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,680
And in summer it gets up to
about 30. 3.

994
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400
OK, what?
Mike and it's winter. 57°.

995
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Say it again, Mike. 57. 57 OK.
Sorry, I didn't.

996
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Yeah.
How many degrees is it?

997
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,120
57.
How many degrees?

998
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,600
You guys, you guys.
It's cold.

999
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,840
I would look we, we.
Yeah, that's cold.

1000
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Yeah.
We're not at the seven degrees

1001
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,440
so.
I would love.

1002
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,640
In winter, give me. 7° man,
anytime and see to me when it

1003
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,040
hits 40, it's cold.
I'm like holy shit, it's cold.

1004
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600
And, and because when you know
what wife and I were running and

1005
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,840
stuff, you have to get up some
mornings like, you know, 4:00

1006
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,280
AM, it's like, holy shit, it's
cold.

1007
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,160
Give me your summertime
temperature again.

1008
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:28,800
Would you say 32?
3532333435 yeah, it can go up to

1009
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,960
40 in some parts of the country,
but I mean, we're talking normal

1010
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Cape Town vibes, yeah.
That's 95 to 100°.

1011
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Chris, OK.
Do you guys have humidity?

1012
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,240
In not in Cape Town because we
close to the ocean more it's

1013
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:43,560
more like a Durban thing and
Johannesburg think they have

1014
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,880
different climates.
So but Cape Town we not that

1015
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,120
humid, no.
How far is Johanna?

1016
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:55,080
We have that from Cape Town. 2
hour flights. 2 hour flight.

1017
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,240
Yeah, 22.
I guess it depends how far, how

1018
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,000
fast.
There's traffic or not in the

1019
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,880
air, but roughly about two
hours.

1020
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,600
And that's more.
Inland, but the same distance

1021
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,960
can take you to Namibia then
took like a 2 1/2 hour flight.

1022
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,040
So it's, it's quite funny.
I think it's about 20.

1023
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Is it like 20,000 kilometers?
We also we're working

1024
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,320
kilometers, so 2 hour flights
are good weights for us to yeah

1025
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,040
to to explain especially in
Europe like you're flying from

1026
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,480
England to Germany it's a 2 hour
flight you know we're like, but

1027
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,560
in Cape Town, we can fly from
Cape Town to our next city, our

1028
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:35,280
next city you know yeah got.
You so anything else you guys

1029
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,640
want to touch on about your your
what's coming up on your music

1030
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,640
world, things like that?
Well, acoustic element is the

1031
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,640
place to check us out on
Instagram and on on Spotify.

1032
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Apple Music orbited DSPS we have
we're planning on releasing

1033
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,320
every 5-6 weeks now.
So we're back in studio and

1034
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,720
we've got some cool releases
with some cool collabs coming

1035
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,960
with some cool artists that are
from South Africa.

1036
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,320
So it will be cool to just check
out some more South African

1037
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,440
music and also check out our
recording studios on the Bowl,

1038
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,360
studios on the Bowl, Infinity
Studios, check us out as well.

1039
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,880
We for local and live music, you
know, that's what we do local

1040
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:18,120
and local is liquor.
Well, and the website

1041
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,920
isacousticelement.net for those
of you that are on YouTube right

1042
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,640
now, you can go check that out.
It's acoustic element.net.

1043
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,840
It has several different tabs,
lots of photos, lots of

1044
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,000
explanations of what they do,
where you can find their music.

1045
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,320
Amazon.
Grable Hot.

1046
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,880
Yeah, Spotify, yeah.
And you got some, you got some

1047
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,320
live stream videos up there, so
you can follow them on YouTube,

1048
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,520
be in the know for all their
stuff.

1049
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,960
They got some really cool
things.

1050
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,480
They got a Christmas edition,
Christmas edition up to a couple

1051
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,400
of different volumes of of of
alt ego sessions, which is them

1052
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,760
They're just now doing something
different.

1053
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,520
They have a whole contact page
on their site, so and they have

1054
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,800
a booking link.
So if you want to book these

1055
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,840
guys to come, you know, class up
the joint.

1056
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Hey, they're wedding right.
Do you guys have a?

1057
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,760
Yeah, how much do you charge for
a backyard party?

1058
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,160
For you up to this.
We've actually never played in

1059
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,640
America.
We we were supposed to this

1060
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,960
year, but we had scheduling
conflicts with our tour in

1061
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,040
Europe, which was already
booked.

1062
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,360
Yeah, we're supposed to do like
a private corporate function.

1063
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,960
I'm just scared that if we come
to America, we might never want

1064
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,800
to leave.
We hear that.

1065
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Really.
Yeah.

1066
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,440
OK, So what?
We asked this, I've asked this a

1067
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,840
couple of times.
We've had people on from other

1068
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,720
countries.
What is the South Africans

1069
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:40,240
impression of Americans?
I think.

1070
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Well, two of our best friends
are American, so they love you.

1071
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,520
We love, I mean we love American
people.

1072
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
I just think obviously, I mean
with every country, you know,

1073
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,240
politics is a dodgy place at the
moment.

1074
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,440
I don't think it out on the
people.

1075
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,400
I think the Makins, it's the
land of the flippin where we as

1076
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,280
a recording studio, as us, as
artists, obviously we want to go

1077
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,040
to America.
So I mean, we have not.

1078
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,880
Yeah, we'd love to play.
We'd love People of America to

1079
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,160
hear what we do and we'd love to
because we don't think that

1080
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,320
there's many people doing what
we're doing in this world.

1081
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,840
So we'd we'd love to to.
The waters in a new place that

1082
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
we've never been in.
Sure, sure.

1083
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Well, I'm going to drop one of
your I'm going to drop one of

1084
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,880
your videos up on our on our our
Facebook page.

1085
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,720
So I'll I'll.
Thank you so much I'll.

1086
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,680
Send you yeah, I'll send you
links for that so you can come

1087
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,200
in there and check it out and
and you know we'll we'll

1088
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,960
subscribe to your YouTube
channel you do the same with

1089
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,960
ours and then you'll now be in
the.

1090
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,800
Know how to drop all?
Our content with you and you

1091
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,560
know if you ever do come to
America, definitely let us know

1092
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,440
and if you ever want to come
back on the show, we'd love to

1093
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,920
have you back on the show
because we love talking to

1094
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,920
musicians we love sharing your
journey with with the world and

1095
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,840
helping plug you to get you more
and more views on your pages and

1096
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,360
things like that because.
You know, yeah, when you guys

1097
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,680
start dropping stuff, man, let
us know and we'll we'll promote

1098
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,240
it if you want to.
Come back, thank.

1099
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,440
You so much, we can do that, but
yeah, that's what this is all

1100
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,880
about, man. 100% thank you for
what you're doing, and the way

1101
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,040
you do it is so cool.
We can't wait to be on the show

1102
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,800
again.
And yeah, thanks to the lesson

1103
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520
as it made it this far I guess.
Right, right.

1104
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,360
And then yeah.
So that's the cool thing about

1105
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,680
it.
Well, the cool thing about it,

1106
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,880
you can go to our YouTube
channel and you can you can

1107
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,160
share what we just talked about.
And then once we have the

1108
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,560
finished product, you'll get
you'll get 10 to 15 reels that

1109
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,200
you can use however you want.
And, you know, cross promote all

1110
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,280
that kind of jazz.
Because again, we do this as a

1111
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,920
conversation because, you know,
interviews are boring as hell

1112
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,560
and you learn more and you have
more fun just talking to people

1113
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,960
and bullshit and you know, for
an hour and and you getting to

1114
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160
know them.
And, you know, we learned, we

1115
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,040
learned so much by doing this.
Like, you know, violinist, you

1116
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,560
got to be classically trained.
Who knew?

1117
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,320
We know how you.
Know and you know and the right

1118
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,080
so here's here's another random
thought for you.

1119
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,880
So you mentioned the people you
met Justin Bieber's all over the

1120
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,480
American media right now because
all the shit that's gone on with

1121
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,840
with with was it it's AP Diddy
the the baby went back right.

1122
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,360
Is that it?
Yeah, so he he seemed to be kind

1123
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,440
of going down a depression
rabbit hole, which sucks for him

1124
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,640
because he doesn't, he doesn't
seem like he has any way that's

1125
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,800
really going to help him get
talked off that ledge.

1126
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,160
What kind of human was he Is is
he a decent human being that

1127
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,400
just kind of got caught up on
all the nonsense?

1128
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Yeah.
He looked like an unreal,

1129
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,040
unbelievable, kind of like.
It was it was probably the early

1130
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,400
time where we met someone where
I thought this this guy, even

1131
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,800
just walking past his star
quality, he's like, you could

1132
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,840
just he's going to trace it.
Like you can feel him without

1133
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040
him even being, you know, it is.
It's amazing.

1134
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,840
Yeah.
I think he's, I think he's a

1135
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,200
victim of circumstance.
And of course he's going to go

1136
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,840
through his own but, but he's a
massive talent.

1137
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,680
And I think the new album is
insane.

1138
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Like crazy.
Yeah.

1139
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:46,600
Yeah, I can't wait for him to
just, he just just keep going

1140
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,400
though, keep keep making some
music.

1141
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Yeah, he needs to get his demons
in check, which, you know,

1142
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,280
that's that's easier said than
done.

1143
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,400
Mike and I both had our demons
and we put them in check, but it

1144
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,760
took for years.
But other other two artists, my

1145
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,280
daughter grew up listening to
what Bieber and and and Bruno

1146
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Mars.
Those are the only two that I

1147
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,440
told her I thought was going to
last and stand the test of time

1148
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,800
from the teenage candy ass pop
rock people because they were

1149
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,680
true musicians.
You can sense that, you know,

1150
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,800
they had that power and the
charisma on stage as a

1151
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,200
performer.
And true to form, Bieber and and

1152
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,720
Bruno Mars are still around
where, you know, Miley Cyrus is

1153
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,840
too.
But Miley Cyrus had to reinvent

1154
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,480
herself as a whore, you know,
basically to keep selling

1155
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,800
records, you know, call it what
it is.

1156
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,520
You know, like, many times
you're going to show your booty.

1157
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520
You know, Miley, it's like once
is enough, man you.

1158
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Know.
Give me some.

1159
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,120
Cheeseburgers, but it's.
She's too scared.

1160
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,600
She, yeah, she's just just
trying to be the younger

1161
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,160
Madonna.
And, you know, it's just kind of

1162
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,360
stop already, you know, it's the
shock and all.

1163
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,080
I don't think works anymore.
But you know that could be

1164
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,240
wrong.
No, I think you just said that

1165
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,360
brilliantly.
Oh, thank you, thank you.

1166
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,800
You know, I have my moments.
Well.

1167
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,320
I'll say it so.
So we always wrap up our show

1168
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,920
like this.
If you're feeling bad, if you're

1169
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,240
feeling depressed, if you're
feeling suicidal, you know, step

1170
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,880
back, call somebody that that
you know will talk to you.

1171
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,560
Don't take your own life.
Don't don't take the couch your

1172
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,640
way out.
Somebody's going to miss you.

1173
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,160
Somebody Loves You.
You're going to leave somebody

1174
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,720
else with a hole in the heart
and and the trauma that they're

1175
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,800
going to go through with you
being gone is not worth it.

1176
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Journal it, scream on a pillow.
Go, go run a mile.

1177
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,400
Do what you got to do to kind of
clear your mind of that that

1178
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,280
demon that's bugging you right
now, because tomorrow's going to

1179
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,360
be a better day, especially when
you wake up and you're still in

1180
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,160
the world because somebody does
love you and somebody will miss

1181
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,520
you.
I'm Chris, He's Mike.

1182
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,320
This is this is the acoustic
element from Cape Town, South

1183
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Africa.
We're going to have them back on

1184
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,480
again.
You guys are fantastic.

1185
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,880
I'm so glad we we got connected
today much and you know, thank

1186
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,040
you.
Guys for coming on?

1187
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,480
Absolutely.
You ever need it, you must let

1188
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,240
us know.
We, we're, we, we'll plug away

1189
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,520
anybody that comes on our show
because, you know, it's, that's

1190
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,760
just what we do.
Thank.

1191
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,680
You thank you for having us.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1192
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,240
What a pleasure.
Thank you, Chris and Mike.

1193
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,440
Yeah, thank you.
You guys have a great rest of

1194
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,320
your day.
My brother Mike, I love you and

1195
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,360
we'll we'll talk to y'all.
Love you too brother, nice to

1196
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,680
meet you guys.
Thank you so much.

1197
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,760
Cheers.
Don't sign off yet.

1198
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Fight the battle.
That's you, Boss Wheel.

1199
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,640
Fight the battle, but you Boss
Wheel, who is his baby to your

1200
00:58:48,640 --> 00:59:03,400
finger.
Oh yeah, this is to your.

1201
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:13,300
You.
Haven't found something in the

1202
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,700
exam from fighting?
Wait for the dead.

1203
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:25,540
Wait for the the way you ain't
no creature.

1204
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:31,060
We don't pray and smile.
You should pray on the almighty

1205
01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:35,580
day.
You got a dream too, in your

1206
01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:39,760
life to keep our soul in every
man.

1207
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul revolution now.

1208
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1209
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Take a moment.
We can see you.

1210
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,160
See him fight the battle with
you more clear.

1211
01:01:31,070 --> 01:01:35,630
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.