Aug. 31, 2025

#128 - Lisa Brearley - Author/Life Coach

#128 - Lisa Brearley - Author/Life Coach

Hello Friends

In this engaging conversation, Lisa Brearley shares her journey of self-discovery, personal growth, and the importance of self-love. She discusses pivotal moments in her life, including her decision to write books that reflect her experiences and insights.

The discussion also touches on the concept of soulmates, effective communication in parenting and teaching, and the impact of technology on children. Lisa emphasizes the need for creativity in education and the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Throughout the conversation, she highlights the significance of patience, understanding, and finding balance in life.

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We're going to pretend there's
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We can welcome the ladies and
gentlemen on YouTube and.

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Twitch who are?
Tuning in and listening

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diligently.
Yes, yes, welcome, welcome,

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Youtubers and Twitchers.
So this is the Chris and Mike

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show.
I'm Chris, he's Mike and we have

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our special guest today.
This is Lisa.

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I always I messed up your last
name so you don't have to you

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drop it.
This is Lisa Beers, barely,

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barely.
I don't know why I struggled

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with I struggled that with and
Scott was on.

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It's just one of those things.
There's too many Rs or

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something.
I don't know what's up with

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that.
But yes.

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So welcome to the show and here
and where are you at?

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I'm in Arizona, Mike's in
Illinois and and you're Canada.

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Yeah, on the West side of Canada
in British Columbia.

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Well, welcome.
Thank you for coming on, Lisa.

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Thank you very much to help you
remember my name.

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It's, it's like barely as I tell
my, my students sometimes when I

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was teaching, I'm like, I'm not
barely, barely, I'm all the way

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barely.
So it's barely though to help

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remember.
Gotcha.

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Well, I'll just call you Lisa
then.

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It's easier.
Perfect.

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Then I have no problems at all.
So tell us a little bit about

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yourself and what what you'd
like to let all our listeners

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know.
And, and you know, we just take

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it from there.
So fire away, Lisa.

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Well, it's great to be here.
I appreciate the connection.

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I know you had my husband Scott
on as well and that was our

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little, little connection.
So I appreciate it Chris and

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Mike having having me on and a
little bit about myself.

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Wow, where do I start?
Well, I, I grew up in the East

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Coast, so right now I'm on the
West Coast, but I grew up in the

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East Coast in Prince Edward
Island.

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Great little little province if
you ever have a chance to visit,

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just a cute little place.
But I grew up in an amazing

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family, loving mom and dad and I
have three siblings and good

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Catholic family.
I was telling Chris about that

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before we started, and I had a
really calm, peaceful sort of

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upbringing.
It's a beautiful place I grew up

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in beautiful family, I grew up
in community, all that sort of

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stuff.
Met my former husband in

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university, at University of
PEI, married, ended up having

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two kids, Jordan and Brianna, 26
and 22.

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And yeah, it's then about just
to kind of give you some a

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pivotal point in my life, some
pivotal points.

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Back in 2012, I decided to take
a Zumba certification and

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instructor class.
And that was kind of the

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beginning, I think, of starting
to see who I was and that I was

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this worthy person of doing some
confident, crazy things in my

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life.
So back in 2012, that was one of

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the pivotal things, becoming a
Zoom instructor, although I must

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say I never taught.
I wanted to do it so I could do

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it with my students, my
elementary students, so I could.

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Yeah, have fun with them.
Like dance class?

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And you never taught.
I never taught a session to the

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public.
Wow.

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I used to have last.
My previous name was Maze, so I

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used to always use that name for
like, you know, amazing this and

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doing amazing that.
And so we would move with Maze

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at the lunch hour and do Zoom so
we'd have lots of fun elementary

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students.
And then I think one of the next

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big pivotal times in my life was
when I decided to take charge of

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what I ate.
So back in 2018, started a

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course program, year long
program, which means a lot about

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dedication called Healthy
Transformations and learning

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about food and what I eat and
what it does for me.

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And took it for four years in a
row, like full four years.

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Then we'd meet once a month, I
think it was.

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And it was a doctor and a health
behaviour coach, which so many

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behaviours are involved in food.
Sure.

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So yeah.
So that was another big pivotal

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moment in my life.
And then in 2020, choosing,

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deciding to tell my husband I
needed to move on from our

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marriage because I was feeling,
as I like to say, at the pot was

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kind of boiling and the lid was
on tight and I wasn't, it wasn't

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a good feeling, a good
situation.

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And so I separated in 2020 and
met Scott in 2021 during

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personal development work.
And I think he shared about that

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is quite a few experiences he
had during that week long course

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where we had met.
And yeah, it's I've been on a

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growth journey ever since then.
We're done.

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Yes.
Very cool.

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So you've you've written some
books.

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So give us a little insight
about the books you've written

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and and are there self help?
Are they about what you just

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kind of talked about?
Because again, when we have

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people on our show, we want to
kind of organically promote you

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and and drive people to to where
they can find your stuff.

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I don't like spilling the beans
for those who write books

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because we want people to buy
your book instead of learning

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everything about it here so you
can give us a little hints and

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tips.
So what was the first book you

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wrote and what was that about?
Yeah, I have it here.

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So during my one of the personal
development classes that Scott

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and I took, OK, we were setting
goals.

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So one of mine because I was so
blown away.

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I think speechless.
I don't know what the word was

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about my about Scott nice first
year together and people were

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noticing like, Oh my gosh, like
what is going on with you?

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Like in a good way.
So like I was showing up

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glowing.
Really that's what people were

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per saying.
And like you should write a book

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about it.
So it kind of put a little

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thought in my head.
And so I wrote a goal to myself

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that I would write about our
first year.

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And for me, it was about being
OK with being heard, what I

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thought because I really feel
like in my life, I didn't do

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that.
I didn't.

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I didn't express myself.
Yeah.

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So being able to write the words
I wanted to write, say what I

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was feeling, share what I was,
how I was shifting in life.

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And so this this is not a
previous marriage bash at all.

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This is literally about the the
starts the week or the day I met

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Scott at that week long personal
development class and the growth

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journey that I was on and what
we did together, we were on.

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And it's funny because when I
started writing the book, and

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probably, I don't know, a few
months before that and I started

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writing it, I, I thought I was
going to title it.

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Why Scott?
Like, that's what I thought.

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Why did I choose this guy?
Like why Scott?

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And when I started writing, and
good author knows this is that

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when you start writing,
sometimes it, things shift when

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you write.
And I was like that I don't have

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enough for that.
It was more about me and my

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growth and my feelings and and
that I was worthy enough to

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share them.
And I knew that if I share them,

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then someone else will find some
inspiration in that for their

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own life.
Right.

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Yeah, Yeah.
And so when I wrote this and

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I'll, I'll read, just read one
thing to you.

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When I wrote this, Scott and I
both felt within our like first

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couple weeks of being together
that word soul mate.

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Like I know when a lot of people
kind of go soul mate like that

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sounds so cliche or.
Whatever.

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Now, now before you, before you
jump into what you're going to

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read so people understand
because people may not have

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listened to Scott show or saw
Scott show.

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So give us a little background
about Scott because it'll help

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understand what you're writing
about and, and, and who you are

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as well.
And we know who you are.

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But give us a little background
about Scott because obviously

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this whole book is about, you
know, Scott's first year.

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It's just a real 32nd, a real
30.

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Second thing Scott was, you
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The, the during that first day,
I believe it was of that week

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long personal development
course, we were asked what do

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you want in a relationship?
And at that point, I was just

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coming out of my former
relationship.

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And so I had this long list of
what I did not want.

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Like that was very obvious to
me.

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And so I'm like, let's switch
then.

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So if I know I don't want that,
what's the opposite?

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So I started making this, this
list.

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And quite literally, we were in
this group of, I think it was

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around 70 people.
And I, I like, I felt this

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strong, strong, I don't know,
connection, pull or whatever the

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word was when I read my list and
I like, I literally looking at

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Scott going like, that's the
list.

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He's the list.
For some reason, I, I couldn't

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quite put my finger on it, but
he during that week stood up in

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front of that class of like men
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And he bought this combination
for me of this rugged, strong

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man and vulnerability.
So those two things together

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during that course, I'm like,
that's my list.

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Like that's.
And then and then found out more

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about him along the way during
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So I remember after one of the
first session, one of the first

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stories he told.
And I know I'm a very sensitive

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person.
Like I, I have very kind of

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tuned into people's feelings and
emotions because when he shared,

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I literally had this feeling of
I felt like I just met a 5 year

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old boy, the five year old boy
when he shares.

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And so I, I actually went up to
him after that first session.

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I didn't know the guy.
I'm like, can I tell you

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something?
Yeah, he goes, sure.

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I said I felt like I felt, I met
a 5 year old boy.

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He goes, oh, and then nothing
else came of that.

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But it was me deciding to say
something that I was feeling,

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which I don't do that I used to
always put it under the rug,

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right?
So that I said talked about the

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soulmate and I kept trying to
find the best meaning of a

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soulmate.
And this Bianca Spiricino and

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I'd never heard of this lady.
And she's like, soulmate isn't

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someone who completes you.
And so I knew that I knew that

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this person, like whoever my
soulmate was, was not completing

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me.
A soulmate is someone who

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inspires you to complete
yourself.

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And there's more to that saying,
but I was like, Oh yeah, that's

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what's inspiring me for this
book, right?

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I agree with.
That wholeheartedly.

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Yeah, like it's someone who, you
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your, you know, your rah rah
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You're, you know, the person
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time, they're there to help you
and they're there to support you

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and you can't.
Count on somebody else to make

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you happy.
That's where people make.

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That's the biggest mistake
people make is I'm looking for

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that person that's going to make
me happy.

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You have to make yourself happy
1st, right?

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Yeah, that person is going to
fulfill whatever little piece is

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missing.
Maybe, but you have to be happy

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with your being first. 100
percent, 100% and I've had

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people say to me too well, you
know, and I hear about it a lot.

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Well, you have to be have some
sort of complete whole self love

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in order to love someone else.
And I'm like, I think when I met

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Scott, I realized years later
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loved.
And I think that was that was

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the connection.
That was the only.

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Well, for sure.
Yeah, and so and so I, I got

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great response.
I've got amazing feedback from

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this first book that literally
within months I was like, can I

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write another one?
Now where?

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Now where can people?
Yeah, so.

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So what's the name of the first
book and where can people find

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it?
A year of love and you can find

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it on Amazon.
Very very happy that we did get.

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I did get Amazon bestseller as
well with this book.

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So to be so to be an Amazon
bestseller.

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How many books have you sold on
Amazon?

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It's about reaching various
groups or not groups.

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That's not the subject areas on
Amazon in a day.

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So it's kind of like a special
one day event where you sell

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your ebook and you you're able
to reach all the quotas on all

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these shot or all these subject
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So that's how you do that.
So yeah, after the year of love,

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Scott and I, after that first
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goal to go to Thailand.
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bit about Thailand.
And so the second book is 6

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months really in Thailand.
Six Months of Love in Thailand

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again is on Amazon also.
Both books are also at our

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website, which is Forward
Walking choices.com, which Scott

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Scott coined when he first began
as a as a coach, a life coach.

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But the first book was all about
Scott being my soulmate and

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realizing and going through that
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And it wasn't until I literally
wrote the last chapter of my

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book where it says, yes, I am
worthy, did I realize, Oh my

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God, I'm my, I'm my old own soul
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Like I want the best for me.
And so, so one of the things

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that I absolutely love, and
maybe you write in your journal

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or diary, but I wrote books
instead, is that the growth

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process through the writing
process has just been like mind

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blowing to me.
Yeah, I used to journal probably

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the junior year in high school,
probably ties like, I don't

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know, 30 and, and journaling on
a daily basis.

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One, because I wanted to be a
writer and then two, because

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then I started, you know,
playing in bands with Mike and

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whatnot.
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and the more consistent you are
with it in the kind of the more

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garbage you work through.
It's in your soul.

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And then part of that journaling
was right was, was writing

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poetry and in the ballad format
stuff, which is where a lot of

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my songs originated from, at
least the ideas.

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So there is definitely power in
writing and doing it

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consistently because you do when
you write something down, I

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forget what it is.
But when you when you're

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learning and you write something
down and even though you're not

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necessarily learning when you're
journaling and writing a book,

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but you retain it more and
increases.

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Your retention so much more, so
much like a percentage.

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Yeah.
And then the ideas you

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formulate, it's hard, it's hard
to rebel against your own ideas.

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So if you wake up and decide,
oh, I'm going to, I'm going to

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work out every day, you know,
8:00 in the morning and

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consistently do that.
And then once it becomes a

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habit, it's hard to kind of just
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you've ingrained it in your, in
your, in your daily routine so

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much that it's just, it's a part
of what you do.

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So it's the same concept with
journaling, same concept with,

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you know, when Mike practices a
guitar and things like that.

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So it's it's interesting how you
can evolve from just writing

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you.
Just used, yeah.

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Most people don't purge the
whatever's bothering them,

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right?
It just builds up and it builds

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up and it and they'd never deal
with it, ever.

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If you write it down, like Chris
said, not only do you retain it

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better, you work it out better,
but you get rid of it too,

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right?
You move on to something else.

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You're not dwelling on that one
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Yeah, it's that release, right?
So it's the release of the

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current time, the present time,
and you can go back to that and

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go, oh, I've shifted from that
and that's okay.

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Yeah, exactly like.
Yeah, yeah, James, Yeah.

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James Hetfield recently was
quoted as he was on stage

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talking about the darkness and
stuff.

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He was, he was actually doing an
introduction to Fade to Black,

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which Fade to Blacks about
suicide.

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And it was lead singer and
Metallica, in case you've.

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Been right, but the cool thing
about it, because, you know,

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from from an image standpoint,
you think James Hetfield is

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this, you know, big badass, you
know, mighty fucking tough,

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right?
I'm, I'm ironclad.

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I'm, you know, I'm, I'm the lead
of one of the greatest heavy

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metal bands that ever, ever
exists next to Black Sabbath,

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right?
And he's up there talking about

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Fade to Black and how it's about
suicide.

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And as he goes on the
introduction of the song, he

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basically, he wraps it up before
the song starts.

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Basically talk that shit out.
Like everybody has darkness,

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everybody has demons.
Nobody's perfect.

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And if you, if you come across
as perfect, you're lying to

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yourself and the world because
you don't exist.

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It doesn't happen, but it was,
it was cool for me to see him be

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like, like #1 he was vulnerable
in the fact that that in the

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same kind of tour, his daughter
came on stage with him and they

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sang Nothing Else Matters
together acoustically and he

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wept because it was such a
powerful moment with his

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daughter.
Right in the reviews of that was

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it was haunting and just so raw
and emotional.

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So you have that part coming out
now finally, because he has

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worked through so much of his
shit because he is an alcoholic.

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He didn't have problems I think
with some substances.

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Other than that, don't quote me,
but but the fact that he now

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he's that been able to stand in
front of hundreds of thousands

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of people and be like, you know,
talk your shit out.

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The power that he has now being
open and vulnerable about his

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struggles and his journey and
life of sobriety and not being

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sober, things like that.
It's to me, it's monumental.

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It's, it's somebody that has
that much authority and that

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much of A presence alone just
for what he does.

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But then to be able to start
educating people and dropping

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that message, I thought was a
fantastic transformation of him

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as a human.
I mean, we don't know him

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personally, so we don't know,
but just.

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He's been, he's been public
enough and vulnerable enough

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that, you know, I agree with
Chris and that that's one of the

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reasons we do this podcast.
He'll wear a shirt every now and

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then that says be kind.
And the rest of that is, you

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know, everyone is fighting a
battle that you know nothing

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about, Right, Right.
I try and keep in mind that that

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person that's being an asshole
to me, that maybe he's having

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that bad day.
Right, right.

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If.
It continues and you keep coming

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at me.
We're going to have a different

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conversation, but you got to
stop and think.

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You know, there's a lot of
pressure going on right now.

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And those moments from somebody
that we look up to as a

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musician, that's going to help,
You know, the kid that's

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struggling, you know, that guy,
he has the same problems I do.

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Yeah, totally.
And it's when you were telling

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that story, Chris, about, you
know, you, you get up and you do

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like he gets up in the stage and
he shares this and then he does

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this and then he does this.
And I, I go like this because I,

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I've one, one thing a lot of
people say is that you step out

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of your comfort zone to, to do
stuff.

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And for me, it feels like if you
step out, you're stepping back,

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going back in and digressing.
So I've kind of learned this

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feeling of, or adapted this
feeling of, I'm actually

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stretching my comfort zone.
So I'm like learning new things

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all the time.
And like, even for myself, I

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look back at like when I first
met Scott in 2021 and it's like

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I was doing some live videos
because I'm like, I've got a

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book coming out.
I got to learn to like, speak.

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When I had a script or
something, right?

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Yeah.
And, and I look back at some of

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those videos and go, wow, she
was brave.

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She was timid, she was scared,
but she was brave.

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And I and, and now it's like,
wow, people say to me, you come

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across and I can speak for 20
minutes on a video and talk

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about whatever.
And it's like, wow, times have

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shifted because I stretched
myself, stretched my comfort

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zone.
I can relate to that as well for

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sure.
Yeah.

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Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I've
done the same thing because when

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my videos, I started doing
videos in 2003, I, I wasn't, I

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wasn't as, I don't know, Bumbly
because I had so much time on

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stage with the band and I was an
actor.

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So I was in front of people from
a, from a theater standpoint.

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But it, it, it's evolved since I
started doing it for sure, which

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everybody does.
The more you do something better

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you get.
And it's that old saying you

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have to do something 10,000
times to be, to be an expert at

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it.
But then you still continue

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learning things as you go along
because you may think you're an

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expert.
And then all of a sudden, you

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know, somebody just like, oh,
I'm like, oh, Epiphany, I need

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to do that now.
Well, I like that term

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stretching your boundaries.
Right.

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Yeah, that's a really good.
Yeah, I agree.

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It's a great way to look at it
because you don't want to go out

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and then like you said, come
back in.

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We want to go out and continue
to keep going forward, right?

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Yeah.
And the the other, the other

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thing that also or picture in my
head that also helps me with

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growth is understanding that I
was born perfect.

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So we're all born perfect.
That's.

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We are feeling right, yeah.
Yeah, we're all born perfect.

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And I think it's Doctor Mattei
talks about authenticity and

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attachment.
So the I so just this, this is

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the visual that I get is that I
was born perfect.

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And you know, over time, people
slathered and taped and super

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glued all their, all their
thoughts, beliefs, blah, blah,

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blah on me.
And now it's my almost my job,

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if you want to call it that, to
peel back the layers and find

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that inside again and find that
amazingness inside because it's

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been altered.
The look has been altered over

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my life.
I can relate to that as well.

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Sometimes I say I feel like I've
lived like 5 people's lifetimes,

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right?
And I don't remember a couple of

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them.
Yeah.

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And that may be?
That's because you're an old

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soul, brother.
Yeah, there you go.

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And I did also want to mention I
I have a besides the first two

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books, A year of Love and six
months of Love, I do have a

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third one that I'm currently
writing writing right now and

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I'm super excited about.
It's what it brings as well.

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And I discovered a big thing and
while I was writing it too, is

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love.
Love is the ultimate for me.

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Love and gratitude, both of
those really together.

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But it's interesting how like
these themes have been going

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through my life and, and self
love is the big one and then

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love for whatever is outside of
me.

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So the title of the third book
is called love, just love.

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And it's called the the infinite
possibilities that can transform

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everything.
So it's understanding that that

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that we can have that in our
lives.

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Yeah.
And so I'm super excited.

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And yeah, it is about the
release or the purging, like you

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said, Mike, of, of the thoughts,
the feelings.

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That's what books are for me.
And I'd mentioned I was a

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teacher as well.
I'm I'm still a teacher.

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However, I don't do it permanent
in my own classroom.

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I substitute teach.
But I thought I would give

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writing kids books a try.
And way back when I was telling

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you I did that program called
Healthy Transformations in 2018,

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I learned a lot about food and
I'm still learning about food

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and what to eat and what's great
for my body and really listening

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to my body.
But my kids book, my kids book

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is called I Know because kids
know everything.

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That's like.
I know.

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I know what to do.
I know.

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I know, Yeah.
When a when a little man's best

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best responses to things when we
talk in the morning is yes, I

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know.
Like I'll you know, I say it's

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time to go inside.
Yes, I know, I know you need to

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eat your shasha's jock.
Yes, I know you need to eat your

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waffle.
Yes, I.

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Know.
I know.

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Back needs to start being.
Then why aren't you doing it?

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Right.
Okay, do it now.

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00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,360
Well.
The first, the first time we did

444
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,480
it, it was, it was such a subtle
little cute response to

445
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,200
something.
It's just like right on.

446
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Okay, yeah, you know, very
nonchalantly, you know, yes, I

447
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,240
know.
Yes, I know.

448
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,560
So, so my, my hope with this
book is to encourage

449
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800
conversations because it's
really meant for young kids,

450
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560
like 5 to 7 year olds.
And it's meant to be read with

451
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,760
parents or read in a classroom.
And it's like this, this was my

452
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,080
drawings, but this is, it's to
encourage conversation.

453
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,560
Like there's a, a shark with no
the word no there and there's

454
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,280
chips floating all around him.
And just the question, why?

455
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,400
So to encourage, encourage
conversation and at the end

456
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,600
there just is a brief on what do
we really, really need as

457
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480
people?
What do we really need to, to

458
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280
eat and consume water being the
top 1.

459
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,880
So, yeah, yeah, 'cause as a
teacher, I, I witnessed a lot of

460
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,360
spikes and lows and mental
health and social dysregulation

461
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:42,120
and, and when you, when you see
that lunch bag come in with like

462
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:46,160
sugar and sugar and more sugar
and all, it's really hard.

463
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,280
So the last few years of my
class, I actually started doing

464
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
a couple of fun things.
I, the first of the school year,

465
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,240
I would always ask my students
what your, what's your favorite

466
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,640
song?
So you guys like that?

467
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,440
So I, I actually had them pick
their favorite song.

468
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,440
So right on. 24 students, 24
songs and every month we would

469
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,240
do 3 or 4 songs and I would
choreograph the song and by the

470
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,120
end of the end of the month we
invited all parents,

471
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,360
grandparents, sibling in for
like the 45 minutes last hour on

472
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:22,120
a Friday and we would dance to
the three songs and then we

473
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,320
would have a veggie social where
we would pass out veggies that

474
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,480
we had cut up in the morning.
Like this is Grade 1 and it was

475
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560
like the best thing I ever did.
And then I of course promoted

476
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,840
veggies and lettuce because I
look at those two things

477
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,400
differently.
But lettuce and veggies on your

478
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,920
desk all day.
If you want to eat all day, have

479
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,480
veggies and lettuce on your desk
all day, go for it.

480
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,800
A few people took me up on it,
but parents loved that kids

481
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,280
never came home with still a
full, a full container of

482
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,480
veggies and and lettuce always
empty.

483
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,960
So they always ate it.
I love that.

484
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,640
Yeah.
I have a bag of, of carrots and

485
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,560
celery in my refrigerator at my
office.

486
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Just saying.
So, yeah.

487
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,880
So, you know, whenever I, you
know, go to the office and I'm a

488
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,400
little hungry, it's like, oh,
yeah, I got.

489
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,080
I have.
But I always bring my lunch

490
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,680
though, so I don't, I don't, I
always, I never set myself up to

491
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,560
fail when it comes to eating and
whatnot.

492
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,040
I'm always prepared because I, I
eat very clean.

493
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,480
I don't do.
Yeah.

494
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,000
Fast food and all that kind of
stuff because it's just, you

495
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040
know, it's just makes you feel
like crap.

496
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,080
I know.
Tell me about it.

497
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,960
And it's not worth it.
It's like, it's like a hangover.

498
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520
It's terrible.
Like, Yep.

499
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,600
Yeah, It's interesting.
When I had met Scott, I was

500
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,720
actually on the verge of not
having any more alcohol.

501
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040
Not that I was a, you know,
raging alcoholic or anything

502
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,360
like that or had lots to drink,
but it was like I would have one

503
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,840
in a month or something and go
that wasn't worth it.

504
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,080
And then I met Scott, who's been
sober for 23 ish years now.

505
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,880
Right, right.
And I met him and he and he

506
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,240
didn't drank.
I'm like bonus yes.

507
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,000
And then he's telling me he's a
diabetic.

508
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,400
So he really watches what he
eats.

509
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,160
I'm like yes, I'm like, this is
just seems all perfect.

510
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Right.
Yeah, although he loved his

511
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200
coffee and I, I just quit the
coffee about 3 weeks ago.

512
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Oh no.
Why'd you do that?

513
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,480
I've been having some weird
health things go on and so I'm

514
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,160
eliminating things that could be
affecting or whatever my body.

515
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,760
So I may reintroduce it because
I know I love my coffee too.

516
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Gotcha.
Yeah, I drink 1 cup of coffee a

517
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
day, that's it with almond milk
in it.

518
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720
And this was all, I think every
day, but I'm not giving it.

519
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

520
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Well, and I drink tons of water
too, so you know.

521
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,280
Yeah, and our bodies are all
different, like our bodies can

522
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840
take.
It's just we're all different.

523
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Same with even even what we do
on a daily basis, right?

524
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Our bodies can can either absorb
or reject or deflect or whatever

525
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,960
the energies and the things that
we do in a day.

526
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840
And I'm just rediscovering, I
need more downtime.

527
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120
I need more me time because I
can go go go go go.

528
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Right.
On a treadmill.

529
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,800
So yeah, kind of thing.
So yeah, it's always learning,

530
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,400
always growing.
Well, that's an important point

531
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,560
too.
You have to take time for

532
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
yourself.
You know, a lot of people don't

533
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,440
schedule that into their day
either.

534
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,840
No, no, self love is is very
important, very important.

535
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,360
Now I know I I shared with you
the my first kids book.

536
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480
I'm also in the process.
I'm just about to send my first

537
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,120
second kids book to the
publisher.

538
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,760
It's it's though, a memory I had
when I was a teacher of a

539
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,320
kindergarten student, Lily.
And I don't want to, I don't

540
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080
want to ruin the whole story,
but it's called One cookie at a

541
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,680
time because she she came to me.
So it's a kindergarten student.

542
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,600
She came to me and said, I want
to raise money for the

543
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Children's Hospital.
And I was like, and I had, we

544
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,920
were in a what's called a leader
in me school.

545
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880
So yeah, seeing children as
leaders.

546
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,600
And so she came to me.
So I was like, yeah, well, go

547
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,360
home, make a plan, come back.
So literally, she went home with

548
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360
mom, made a plan, brought it
back the next day.

549
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,400
And by the next week, she was.
She sold 200 cookies in school

550
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,200
kindergarten.
Like, impressive.

551
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,480
So I had to write about that
story, yeah.

552
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,760
That is cool.
How much were the cookies, $10

553
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,360
each?
No, just a dollar each.

554
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,480
Dollar each.
But yeah.

555
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,240
So she made $200 that she was
able to donate to the Children's

556
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Hospital.
Yeah.

557
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,120
So that's cool.
It was really.

558
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,640
For a kindergartner, that's
impressive.

559
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,040
I know it.
Is yeah, that's outstanding.

560
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,440
I've I've been very fortunate to
have a lot.

561
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
I should say a lot.
I'm going to say, actually, some

562
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:04,520
very neat children come through
my doors and one that I, it

563
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,280
makes me emotional and but it
makes me very blessed that I

564
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,640
knew that I taught.
Yeah.

565
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,400
Her name was Diamond.
And so every time I see Diamond,

566
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,840
the word diamond is everywhere
all the time.

567
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440
Yeah.
Yes.

568
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:27,200
In when I talked kindergarten
back in 2000 and early 2000s.

569
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:34,280
OK, by like we go September to
June and by the school year and

570
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,000
by November, December, she
wasn't feeling well and she had

571
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,240
received a cancer diagnosis in
my kindergarten year.

572
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:50,160
And wow, I learned a lot of
lessons that year, a lot of

573
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,800
lessons and.
It's nice when you have when,

574
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,280
when the students remember you
or touch you, because my wife's

575
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,600
a teacher, she's going on, this
is her 20th year and she's in

576
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080
6th grade, started in 3rd grade,
kind of worked her way out.

577
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,640
But, you know, it's, it's come
full circle to where we've gone

578
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
into places and it's like
there's one of her students

579
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,920
that's an adult now, you know,
So regardless of what kind of

580
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,240
impact they have on you when
you're teaching them, it's it's,

581
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,920
it's, you know, later in life,
it's, it's fun to kind of just

582
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000
run into them.
And then you, from my vantage

583
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,200
point, watching them react to
seeing her kind of shows the

584
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,000
impact they that she had on
their life, which is neat.

585
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,280
You know, so your story is a
little more, you know, I don't

586
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,200
know, sad because of the, the
cancer stuff.

587
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,560
But you know, people don't, a
lot of people don't realize how,

588
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,160
how, how ingrained teachers
become with their students.

589
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
You know, parents, you know,
they're always kind of harping

590
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,320
and, and bitching and moaning.
You know, if for whatever

591
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,240
reason, especially nowadays with
especially in America anyway,

592
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
how how teachers are perceived
and.

593
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520
And how entitled parents.
Right, right.

594
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
And it's just, you know, like
she's dealing with some stuff

595
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,880
now with some parents that just
like, because I hear the stories

596
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,240
and it's just like, you got to
be kidding me.

597
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,240
Like just the simplest thing is
the simplest rules they have in

598
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,880
schools.
Like you can't have your cell

599
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,280
phone.
And, you know, everybody has a

600
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,080
cell phone now, but kids can't
have cell phones.

601
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,600
They can't bring them out of
classrooms and.

602
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,560
So what do they do with them in
Arizona?

603
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Well, they're supposed to that's
they're supposed to be in the

604
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960
backpack when you when you walk
on campus, you're supposed to

605
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,600
put the phone in the backpack
and not touch it.

606
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:33,000
And, you know, there's certain
children that don't want to

607
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
adhere to that policy.
So, and then they get caught and

608
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280
then they get the phone taken
away and then they, it's get

609
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960
sent to the office and then, you
know, then the parents get

610
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,160
involved because why are you
taking?

611
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280
So like really, it's a rule.
It's a simple rule.

612
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,560
It's, I mean, it's, you can't
have a cell phone for many

613
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400
different reasons, you know?
Disruption.

614
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Being right, right and and then
cheating on test because you

615
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600
know, like smart watches, a lot
of kids have Apple Watches now

616
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,560
you they make you take the Apple
Watch off because the Apple

617
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,800
Watch, you can text the Apple
Watch, you can have phone calls.

618
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,080
So it's it's technology is
geared, you know, towards

619
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,800
disruption big time in schools.
And then the teachers, the bad

620
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,960
guy when they have to enforce
those rules and the parents lose

621
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
their shit because the teachers
doing their job.

622
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
And it's like, OK, why don't you
just step back and realize that

623
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,920
your child is causing a
disruption for the other 20

624
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,679
students in the classroom
because they don't listen.

625
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,480
And and so then you get the
parents point fingers at the

626
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,159
teachers like, well, you, why
you being so mean?

627
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,000
It's like, really?
But then you stop me if you know

628
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,840
how I look at things.
So I'm going to take it all the

629
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
way down to the nub.
I understand our education

630
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,920
system was set up to make good
factory workers, to make good.

631
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,920
We sold the Prussian education
system, which goes way back.

632
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,159
And their education system was
to make disciplined, you don't

633
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,400
ask questions and follow the
system kind of students, right?

634
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,320
So asking Lisa, as a teacher,
you guys have a fairly similar

635
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,280
education system.
What would you do to change

636
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,800
that?
Because we're asking kids, and

637
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,600
you said it earlier, our diets
and the way that we feed our

638
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,040
kids and we're pumping them full
of sugar and then tell them to

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
go sit for 8 hours in a.
Classroom.

640
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,120
Attentive, right?
How would you change that and

641
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,600
still educate the kids?
Well, I think one of the things

642
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,040
I learned in a school that was
amazing, that was that leader in

643
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,040
me school, if you ever heard of
Sean Covey, Stephen Covey, that

644
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,720
sort of stuff.
So.

645
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Yeah.
Absolutely.

646
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,800
Yeah.
So when you have a top down

647
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,560
healthy place, so for example,
that the principal I had at that

648
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:49,840
school was proactive, she
synergized with us, the staff,

649
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:56,200
she, you know, it wasn't this
top down control.

650
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,800
It was about treating you as a
human and you know, so, so

651
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:07,680
creating a space where people,
teachers, parents, kids,

652
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,680
everybody are heard, however
still having appropriate

653
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,720
expectations.
So for me, for me, I know it's

654
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,160
been a, it's been one of these
like because you do hear a lot

655
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,480
of the negative about school.
However, I was very fortunate to

656
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,000
be in a school where the
principal looked at me as a

657
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,360
professional and at the same
time I was growing as a person

658
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,440
and I extended that to my
students.

659
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,280
So for example, I was doing that
personal development class, it

660
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960
was a 90 day class with Scott
and we were doing goal setting

661
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,080
and one of my goals was to do a
plank.

662
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,360
Nice.
Guess what I did involved my

663
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360
students.
Oh, really?

664
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,160
One, we ended up getting up to a
minute, I think at 11 seconds

665
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,280
for a front plank and side
planks.

666
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,600
That's awesome because we had
goals, we had interests and, and

667
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,960
for me, I speak what's going on
in my head, so I would speak out

668
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,240
to them and I remember one day
and this like sticks with me so

669
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,920
much.
This is how important our words

670
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,840
are.
Yeah.

671
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,760
Even when when we were
beginning, Chris, and you were

672
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,880
having trouble with your music
and you called it a stupid song,

673
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,480
I get little like triggers go
off in my head going not stupid.

674
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,280
I wasn't stupid.
It was this too.

675
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,200
I just couldn't stop this.
I couldn't stop it.

676
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,280
So that was the, it's obviously
not stupid.

677
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,640
But yeah, I get, I get, I get
what you're saying for sure.

678
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Totally understand.
So this we're doing this goal of

679
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,000
planks and we were getting up to
a minute and it was challenging.

680
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Like we would add 10 seconds
every week, right to this up to

681
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,400
get to the minute.
And we were getting

682
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,880
up-to-the-minute goal and kids
were like, oh, I can't do this.

683
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Like, you know that the whining
was coming out right?

684
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,000
And it was like I said, I sat
them down after.

685
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
I'm like, Oh my goodness.
When you guys started saying I

686
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,800
can't and you want, I all of a
sudden I couldn't do it.

687
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,360
So I said, let's let's try
everybody, encourage everybody

688
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
on and say we can do it.
We can do it.

689
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had no problem, no problem.

690
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,240
So understanding, yeah.
Like at that young of an age,

691
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,200
words you say, yeah, so
powerful, whether it's the words

692
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200
you're saying to yourself, words
you're saying to your friends,

693
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,960
words you're saying.
So it's like, yeah, it was a

694
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,600
great, a great awareness for me.
It was so cool.

695
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,560
And yeah, because I was healthy,
my classroom was healthier.

696
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,320
And thus, yeah.
So that trickle down effect,

697
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,800
right?
So it.

698
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Seems like in your teaching
style, you kept them hyper

699
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,600
engaged.
And I think that's super

700
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,000
important that the kids feel
like they're part of the

701
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,320
program, right?
Yeah.

702
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,440
One of the first things that we
cut out, two, two of the first

703
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,080
things that we cut out in the
American education system, come

704
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840
to find out where the two most
important, the arts and music,

705
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960
right?
Because those are the two things

706
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
that engage both sides of your
brain.

707
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,600
Music is.
One of the few things that's

708
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,720
the.
Other thing I was going to.

709
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Mention that next PE was the
third thing that became

710
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,120
unimportant.
Now you're literally asking

711
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000
these kids to sit.
They're sitting at lunch,

712
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,400
they're sitting in the
classroom.

713
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,480
They're sitting, sitting,
sitting because they don't get

714
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040
outside to have any kind of
physical activity.

715
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,360
They don't go get the paint or
draw.

716
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,000
They can't play the how are they
getting by?

717
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,480
They don't know how to play a
recorder.

718
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,080
We all learned how to play the
recorder.

719
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,040
Right, right, right.
Or at least the ukulele.

720
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,440
I think that was something we
tried ours.

721
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Was the recorder.
That's the running joke in

722
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,960
America.
Yeah.

723
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,440
And the other thing that I know
we don't think about, but I've

724
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,200
been thinking about it more
lately because I was desiring to

725
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,160
actually have my feet in grass.
And we don't think about this

726
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,960
because, like students, we asked
them to wear rubberized sneakers

727
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,440
all day, runners all day.
Like, oh.

728
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640
Like they're they're not in
tuned with nature.

729
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,600
So I actually used to take my
sketchbook.

730
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
So we would had these big
sketchbooks and we would take

731
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,040
them outside for like an hour
and sit in the grass and draw

732
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,440
what we see, draw what we feel
like.

733
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
Nice.
Sometimes just those simple

734
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,520
things like ground you or make
you see something in a different

735
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,840
way.
It's pretty cool.

736
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Yeah, so little man,
kindergartner.

737
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,080
So he he you have to get greens.
If he gets greens, he's a good

738
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,000
day.
And he's he gets he gets yellows

739
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,880
because he he likes to hit.
So when he hits.

740
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Yeah, yeah, I don't it's, it's
well, here's the thing.

741
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,320
When I dropped him off when I
when I well, that's part of the

742
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,920
problem because Jake will
roughhouse with him.

743
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,000
His dad roughhouses with him,
his little brother.

744
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,960
They just they all roughhouse
their boys, right.

745
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,360
So, and, and he has a little bit
of, he's a little bit of speech

746
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,160
issue.
So that I think it's kind of a

747
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,640
precursor to the problem because
I think he gets frustrated when

748
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,280
somebody doesn't understand what
he's saying.

749
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560
And then so that, you know, but
at the same time, when, when I

750
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,240
dropped him off Monday, I had to
go back because I forgot, I

751
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,200
forgot his, his water bottle.
So, and it's 2 minutes away.

752
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,720
So I went back and then when I
went back, him and about 6-7

753
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,800
other kids are all playing the
criminals and cops.

754
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
I'm like, well, that explains
where the punching comes into

755
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,400
play, right, Right.
We're playing a game, right.

756
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:36,880
So in in doing so, because he
got 2 yellows in a row.

757
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,320
So when he's got consequences,
because I have him every day,

758
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Lisa from 6 to 8, I take him to
school and it's been that way

759
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,000
since he's 3 weeks old.
So he comes over and, and you

760
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,160
know, he's like, he wants to
turn on the TV.

761
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,680
I was like, no, no TV today.
And he's like, why?

762
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,320
I was like, well, because you,
you, you got a yellow yesterday.

763
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000
I said, I told you, you can't
you get yellows?

764
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,040
There's consequences here.
And so I kind of, you know, do

765
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680
my little thing and kind of help
him understand that, that if

766
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,440
somebody hit him and, and he
came home and I found out

767
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,760
somebody hit him, I would be
sad.

768
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480
So I said, so you're making that
other kid that you hit his, his

769
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,360
pop up sad.
And so instead of, of watching

770
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,240
TV, he ended up because we have,
we live on an acre and we have

771
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,080
chickens.
So and it was irrigation the

772
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,440
night before.
So he ended up on the back of

773
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,520
the couch looking out the, the
backyard window.

774
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,160
And I was like, what are you
doing?

775
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680
He's like, it's a movie Outback
because the chickens were

776
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200
frolicking, the birds were kind
of flying around everywhere.

777
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Because when the irrigation
comes, all the bugs come up to

778
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,000
the top of the irrigation.
So they're all having a field

779
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,960
day.
So it ended up like legit for

780
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
about 1520 minutes, we were just
sitting there on the couch

781
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,840
looking Outback because he said
it was a movie in the backyard.

782
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,240
So I thought that was kind of a
brilliant little thing for him

783
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,080
to kind of do because we're not
watching TV now.

784
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,120
And when we watch TV it's it's
you know, stuff about NASA and

785
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,920
planets because he wants to be
an astronaut.

786
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,080
So it's not like we're, you
know, boob tubing it with stupid

787
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:04,040
shit, you know, but it was just,
it was fun that that he came up

788
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,840
with that concept.
And like, you like going out

789
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,600
outside with your drawing pad,
right?

790
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Then you're, you're kind of
living in that moment, which is

791
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,000
neat.
So this morning, before we

792
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,120
turned on the YouTube to watch
some stuff about planets and and

793
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,720
Iceland's lava because he loves
lava, we watched a little bit

794
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,400
outside time and, and, you know,
it was, it was kind of cool.

795
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,160
I never thought of it before.
Yeah.

796
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,160
A lot of parents, because
they're stressed and they're

797
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,240
trying to get through their day,
you know, you get a lot of

798
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,840
intensity towards children,
which children, they just freeze

799
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,800
up, right?
What I'm hearing from you, did

800
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,200
you talk to your own kids that
way?

801
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,480
Like rationally?
No, no, I didn't because I was

802
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,280
because like we talked yesterday
with we were on £600 podcast.

803
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,760
I was, I'm a first time dad.
So now I'm a first time.

804
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,880
I'm not old enough to be a
grandpa, so I call Papa.

805
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,280
I was going to be impressed if
you did.

806
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,880
I didn't because I didn't.
I didn't.

807
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,920
When you're raising kids and do
you have kids, Lisa?

808
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Yeah.
OK.

809
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,920
So when you're raising your own
kids, you have all the pressures

810
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,320
of the world on your shoulder
because you're entrusted to take

811
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,120
these these tiny little things
and and mold them into good

812
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,160
contributing human beings.
You know, So I think the stress

813
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,680
with that, I think because Nick
and I, neither one of us had any

814
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,560
real example.
I had no example of a father.

815
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,760
She had no real example of a
mother because her mother passed

816
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,720
away when she was young and then
her dad kind of kicked her to

817
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,120
the curb and she came out here
with her step monster when she

818
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,320
was 12.
So we just were kind of flying

819
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,440
solo it there was no village
helping us.

820
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,200
So I as, as I would say with
Skylar, absolutely not with

821
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,760
Skylar, it wasn't I was, I was
freaked out.

822
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,720
It was a little kid and you
just, you had nothing.

823
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,840
I had nothing to compare myself
to.

824
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,240
You know what?
Does that make sense?

825
00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:59,960
Absolutely.
You had no foundation.

826
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Right, right.
So when so when Jake came

827
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,680
around, it was five years later.
And there are moments with him

828
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,120
that I would catch myself kind
of like that baseball story I

829
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,800
told that that that was wrong,
but my my intention was good.

830
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,880
And then when he and I talked
about it, it realized, OK, we

831
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,720
framed this properly now.
So now I know not that do that,

832
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,120
not that it was bad, but it
embarrassed him.

833
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080
So we kind of kind of created a
level playing field where we

834
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,800
kind of understood the
boundaries and things.

835
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,320
So once that kind of came up,
which I think he was about 7:00

836
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,680
or 8:00, then then I probably,
yeah, I might.

837
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,320
My conversations were geared
more towards like with little

838
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,360
man, it's just like, hey, you
know, reverse the role.

839
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,080
If if you get hit every day and
you come home and tell me you

840
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,360
get hit, that's going to hurt my
feelings because you got to talk

841
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960
at A at a kindergartener's
level, right?

842
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,040
You can't, you can't use big
words and big circumstances.

843
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,920
It's like when when you get hit
at school, it hurts my feelings

844
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,000
and I'm your pop up and I don't
want you to get hit.

845
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,640
I don't want you to get hurt.
So I'm hoping that kind of

846
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,800
registered with them.
I don't know.

847
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,480
Time will tell.
I just.

848
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,400
Think that's important for
parents to hear?

849
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Because I I've never seen a
situation get solved by

850
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,560
screaming at a child, right?
True, True if.

851
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,120
You and I think, yeah, they're
little.

852
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Human beings, you got to just
put, you got to put it into

853
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,720
perspective.
They're a human being too.

854
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:22,600
They're just at a different
place in life, right?

855
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,240
You still have to talk to them
rationally.

856
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,760
The one, the one thing I've
learned and I incorporated with

857
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,600
with with Anthony that I didn't,
I didn't necessarily do with my

858
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
kids was I got I go down to his
level.

859
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,160
So but yeah, so I mean, but
physically I go down to his

860
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,720
level.
So I'm not looking down and he's

861
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,440
not looking up.
So.

862
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Right.
So when I, when I coached Jake

863
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,480
and Skylar's sports teams, I I
never did that.

864
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,800
And it didn't dawn on me till we
got Anthony to flag football and

865
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,840
then I had all these tiny little
kids because they're 3 to 4 year

866
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,240
olds.
So I just sat, you know,

867
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,920
crisscross applesauce and they
are.

868
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,280
And then we were just what we
were all eye level.

869
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,040
And then the engagement I got
because of that I, it was a

870
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,520
noticeable difference from when
I was teaching Jake when he was

871
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560
doing flag football in Sky, when
she was doing softball, because

872
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,320
I was always standing so even.
Talking to them, not at them,

873
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,320
right?
Which so that's one of those

874
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,320
things life hack parents get
down to your child's level and

875
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,720
talk to them as opposed to them
looking down on them.

876
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,640
Because I think from A and you,
your writer and a teacher, Lisa,

877
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
you may relate to this looking
down on them and them having to

878
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,960
look up to you.
I think it can be intimidating.

879
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,440
Well, especially.
Things that Lisa brought up and

880
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640
you're, you're making this point
now is make sure that they're

881
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,080
engaged with you.
Don't talk at them too correct

882
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,680
scream orders or even if you're
talking, don't just say here's

883
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,920
the way things are going to be.
Make them be a part of the

884
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,760
conversation.
Like you asked him, why are you

885
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,680
hitting them?
You know, why is this going on?

886
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Don't just say you can't do that
and leave it at that and you're

887
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,040
in trouble.
You know you're in trouble for

888
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,800
hitting and you're grounded for
a week and now the

889
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,720
conversation's over.
Well, see, our parents would.

890
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:05,680
Sit us down and we would have to
be part of the conversation.

891
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,160
Sure.
And when he gets when he when he

892
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,200
gets when he as he matures, then
that that level of, of

893
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,040
involvement will will increase
because I have a better

894
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,360
understanding of it.
When he when he first did it, I

895
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,320
asked him, you know, why did he?
I don't remember.

896
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,760
I'm like, you do remember, you
can remember when Uncle Jake is

897
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,080
going to buy you a power Ranger
that he told you seven months

898
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,200
ago.
So I don't believe that you

899
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,760
can't remember.
And then that kind of opens that

900
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,880
door a little bit.
And then, you know, I was

901
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,400
frustrated or, you know, we're,
you know, it was angry or

902
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,640
something.
I was like, OK, well, there's a

903
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560
better way to deal with your
angers.

904
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,920
Just step back, take a deep
breath or go find your teacher.

905
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Say, hey, I'm upset with with
Johnny because Johnny's not

906
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,720
listening to me, you know,
whatever the case is.

907
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,160
But it's, it's one of those
things that I've learned with,

908
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,600
with raising both my kids and
now having Anthony and then and

909
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,840
tripped the other grandson.
You've you've evolved as an as

910
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,200
an adult, you've evolved as a
problem solver.

911
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,320
You've evolved as just a human
and how you interact with people

912
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
because the more you've done it,
the more experience you have.

913
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,920
So that's my thing for any
parents listening and watching

914
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,880
this go down to the level,
because I still do it with

915
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,320
Anthony.
I still do it with trip When,

916
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,440
when I go outside and they're
there, I drop to the ground.

917
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,720
I, I literally drop to my knees.
So we're, we're this level when

918
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:24,440
they're coming at me, you know,
especially when they're running

919
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,320
to give me a hug and they're
running, you know, across half

920
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,440
the yard, which is an acre.
I'm, I just drop on my ground,

921
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:32,600
you know, come on.
But it, it, I think it, it

922
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,960
connects better with the child
And, and, and I think, you know,

923
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,640
kind of a subconsciously thing,
you are on their level now, even

924
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,800
though it's just eyesight,
because then you're not doing

925
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
this and they're not doing this
and you're not looking that

926
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,320
down.
And I'm 6 feet tall little

927
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,000
man's, I think 4 feet.
But you know, as he was growing

928
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,400
up from zero to where he's at
now, I'm a mammoth figure in his

929
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,320
eyes, Right, right.
So I think that the intimidation

930
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,440
factor goes away, even though
you don't mean to be an

931
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,480
intimidating factor as a parent
or a grandparent, but that size

932
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,120
different is just it's natural.
It's natural to be like, oh, you

933
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,480
know.
That never was more in

934
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,600
perspective for me than when I
moved back to my hometown and I

935
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,000
looked at what my boundary line
was when I was about the age

936
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,200
that Chris is talking about.
Like, I could ride my bike

937
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,160
around this one block, right?
Yeah, Yeah, I'm looking at the

938
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,160
block I could ride around, and
it's tiny, but to me, it was

939
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600
like it took forever to ride
around that block.

940
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Well, that's because my legs
were only, you know, a foot and

941
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,160
a half tall, Right.
Right.

942
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,960
And sometimes too, Chris, like
you talked about the height

943
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,040
thing.
Yeah.

944
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Something else that I tested out
a little bit as a teacher.

945
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,960
We used to have what was called
guided reading groups where, OK,

946
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,720
I, it was what you call that
shape, like a moon shape kind of

947
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,400
table.
I would be in the middle and the

948
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520
kids would come and sit around
the outside.

949
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,880
So you can read with them,
right?

950
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,600
Yeah.
And what I noticed is, and then

951
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,120
that you could sit on the side
next to the teacher.

952
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:09,200
Some kids are more verbal or
want to share more if they are

953
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,760
actually beside you than right
in front of you.

954
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,720
So that's another thing to
consider about you're also on

955
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,640
their level, but that where they
are sometimes eye contact is

956
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,920
extremely intimidating.
So just being next to really

957
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,240
helps.
And then you were talking about

958
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,920
asking those why questions.
So the one thing that I've

959
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,880
learned over the last well,
teaching and and even with

960
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,720
adults, like ask out of
curiosity, but you're not asking

961
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:47,520
to solve that problem.
You're like, you're curious so

962
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:52,000
they can share and you're just,
you're providing a space for

963
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,680
them to share, right?
Yeah.

964
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,960
And so often they know the
answer.

965
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,640
Just like, just like this.
Right, like they.

966
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Know the option.
So once they start to share with

967
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,400
you, well I can do this, I can
do this, then we can add in,

968
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,400
well, what about this idea would
that be?

969
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Good.
That's that's a good idea.

970
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
That's I'm gonna next time he
hits, I'm gonna ask him like,

971
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,480
OK, what's a better way that you
could have handled that

972
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,400
situation instead of hitting?
I really like that Johnny.

973
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,520
You know, maybe, maybe just kick
Johnny engagement, right?

974
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,440
Yeah, now they're engaged.
He's making him solve that

975
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,800
problem himself.
Right.

976
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,120
And that goes, Yeah.
And that goes back to the thing

977
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,680
I said earlier.
It's hard to rebel against

978
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,040
yourself.
So when you come up with your

979
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,160
own solution to a problem, you
created that solution.

980
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,560
That's brilliant, Lisa.
Yeah.

981
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Appreciate.
That.

982
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,040
Thank you.
Yeah.

983
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,240
And you were also talking before
about the cell phone thing in

984
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:46,760
school.
And I think as a society, like

985
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:53,280
we don't realize how much are
we're bombarding our kids and we

986
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,760
all grow up and we're bombarded
with everything.

987
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,040
What?
Happened when you leave the

988
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,240
house as an adult without your
cell phone.

989
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,840
I just encountered it the other
day.

990
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,760
Lady I work with her day was
spun out of control because she

991
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,440
left her phone at home.
Yeah, yeah.

992
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,600
And I couldn't argue with her
because if I do it, I do the

993
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,040
same thing.
I'm like, Oh my God, I forgot my

994
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,880
phone.
Yeah.

995
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,600
Yeah.
So it's it's I like I talked

996
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,760
about going back to nature a
little bit and getting my feet

997
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,080
in the grass, but it literally
is starting to look at the

998
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,000
things that hum bird you in life
that you don't even realize are

999
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,400
happening.
Even the simple things like my

1000
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,960
air conditioner just popped on.
It's like, OK, another sound I

1001
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,440
got to continue with or go on
with or, or like, you know,

1002
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,400
seeing graffiti on a wall that
it's offensive and you're like,

1003
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,840
you take that in and go it's
another thing that comes and and

1004
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,040
and bum birds.
It's just input from the time

1005
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,800
you wake up now until the time
you go to bed, unless you as a

1006
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,840
person do something about it.
I make rules for myself, you

1007
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,560
know, no phone after 9:00 or,
you know, stupid things like

1008
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,800
that.
You have to make your own rules

1009
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,200
to get some kind of, you know,
like you said, time to meditate

1010
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,160
and get your Peace of Mind back
and figure out am I still who I

1011
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,280
think I am?
Right, right.

1012
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,880
Yeah, I heard a great suggestion
from someone.

1013
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,800
They said as soon as you wake up
in the morning, don't look at

1014
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,760
your phone, don't look at
technology or that whatever.

1015
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Go out and look at nature.
Even if you just look at a

1016
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,320
plant, like look at a leaf,
something that does it helps to

1017
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,480
ground and start your day off
really great.

1018
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,240
I have people that I look up to,
and one of the guys that I look

1019
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,840
up to, he gets up and goes for a
walk before he does anything.

1020
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,440
No cop, you know, he has water,
puts his clothes on, goes for a

1021
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,200
mile walk, comes back, has
coffee, takes a shower.

1022
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,760
You know he starts his day after
he gets some kind of time with

1023
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,680
himself, right?
Yeah.

1024
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,000
I need to get to that point.
It's an evolution.

1025
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,080
And we we often, I think, put
ourselves down that we're not as

1026
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,440
good as, you know, the neighbors
or whatever it is.

1027
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,240
It's like, no, we're perfect.
We're just going to keep going,

1028
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,960
keep testing things out and keep
doing things.

1029
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,600
And yeah, might the big thing
that Scott taught me is be

1030
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,320
gentle on yourself.
Be gentle on yourself.

1031
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560
You're doing great.
I like that too.

1032
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,160
And I, I kind of do that
unconsciously without putting it

1033
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,800
into words.
You know, I, I, I make sure that

1034
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,840
I take care of myself first,
because if I don't, then I

1035
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,080
become the person I don't like.
And nobody wants that, including

1036
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,040
me, first and foremost me,
right?

1037
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,680
I like to be nice to people.
I like to help people.

1038
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,840
But if I don't protect my own
Peace of Mind.

1039
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,560
And I think we're all three in
the same boat.

1040
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,680
We're not going to be the people
we want to the people that love

1041
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,040
us.
I'm.

1042
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,800
I'm, I'm careful to educate
those people that I, you know,

1043
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,880
Chris knows because I tell him.
Some days I'm having a shit day.

1044
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,480
It's like, it's not you, man,
it's me.

1045
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,360
No, and we all have shit days.
It's and it's and it's it's,

1046
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,640
it's how you, it's how you
address the shit.

1047
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,200
Day you do the same thing for me
because you have your days.

1048
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:53,520
Yeah.
You know, you're like, hey, man,

1049
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,360
I'm off today.
I'm just telling you up front.

1050
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,520
He's always honest about it.
Yeah.

1051
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,720
Yeah, that's super important.
Communication is key, right?

1052
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Well, it is, I know.
That I didn't just lose one of

1053
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,960
my best friends.
I know he's just having a bad

1054
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,320
day.
And tomorrow's going to be Chris

1055
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,080
again, you know?
Yeah, exactly.

1056
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,560
You don't have to worry if
someone tells you up front.

1057
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,480
And it's the same thing with the
children.

1058
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,640
If you're having a bad day as a
parent, tell your children.

1059
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,960
It's not you.
You know, Dad's having a bad

1060
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,200
day.
Mom's having a bad day.

1061
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,200
My parents did that.
I've told Chris 100 times.

1062
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,720
The one thing that I pride my
parents on is they weren't

1063
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:30,480
yellers and screamers, right?
They were, we're going to sit

1064
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,240
down and have a talk.
And there was nothing that my

1065
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,480
mom would say.
We're going to have a little

1066
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
talk and there was nothing
little talk, right?

1067
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,680
It went on for hours sometimes.
But yeah, it was a talk.

1068
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,640
It wasn't her hitting us.
It wasn't her screaming at us.

1069
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,920
It was, we're going to have a
conversation back and forth and

1070
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,840
you are going to participate,
right?

1071
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Yeah.
Yeah, One one of the things.

1072
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,840
Yeah, exactly.
And, and having that kind of

1073
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:03,000
calm and peace in in your
upbringing allowed you to have

1074
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,440
that in your body.
So that's in you.

1075
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,280
It's part of you now as an
adult, right.

1076
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,160
And so I know I, I, I was born
definitely with patience.

1077
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:15,720
And it's, I, I saw it, my mom as
a teacher.

1078
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,480
My mom was my own kindergarten
teacher and taught for many

1079
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,040
years.
And everybody loves my mom as a

1080
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,240
teacher.
And I think a lot had to do with

1081
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,040
patience.
And now I always thought that

1082
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,160
patience was just not saying
anything like just being OK, I'm

1083
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,240
just, I'll wait and patience.
But I learned patience.

1084
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,760
Patience is more about how I
choose to react in a situation

1085
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,400
that's.
Really.

1086
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,800
What patience.
Is to me, and so I say this to

1087
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,920
people, it's like I thought I've
always been a patient person and

1088
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,520
I really learned patience when I
met Scott I.

1089
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,120
Had I had to learn it myself
because I've never been married.

1090
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,040
I don't have any kids, but I
became the person that I didn't

1091
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,680
like.
I was negative all the time.

1092
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Just I gave up on life for a
while, you know, So I just

1093
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,280
wasn't interested in being
happy.

1094
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880
But when I chose to be happy
again, I agree with you.

1095
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,320
It's something that you have to
choose.

1096
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,560
There's always, how many times
in a day do you have to make a

1097
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:20,280
decision to be an asshole or I'm
going to power through this with

1098
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,040
the best attitude possible,
right?

1099
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,840
So what I've adopted in my life
and you know, people always say

1100
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,440
how can you get through this or
that or how do you do this or

1101
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,920
that by yourself?
It's for this amount of time.

1102
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,560
This is what I'm doing.
So if it's drudgery, I do the

1103
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,360
drudgery with the best attitude
possible because I know it's

1104
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,080
going to be over in 10 hours,
right?

1105
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Or it's going to be over in two
hours and then I'm going to get

1106
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,520
to do something I like.
So now I get to play my guitar.

1107
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,480
So now it's I try not to let
that high be the highest part of

1108
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,400
my day and that drudgery be the
lowest part of my day.

1109
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,680
I just try and say this is my
day, right?

1110
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,080
Some of its things I don't want
to do and things some of its

1111
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,960
things that I'm blessed to be
able to do.

1112
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Yeah, it's finding that
gratitude throughout that time

1113
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,040
as well and still taking the
time for yourself, right.

1114
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,640
So, yeah, you, you have a 10
hours something to do.

1115
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,360
It's like, well, I, I love it
that I'm going to learn

1116
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,880
something new here.
I'm going to blah blah blah,

1117
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,640
whatever it is.
Or I'm with people that at least

1118
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,640
I like, you know, So I was
talking about work.

1119
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,640
Obviously, you know, sometimes
work sucks, but I look at it

1120
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,280
like I had some of the best
friends I've ever had in my life

1121
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,040
I met there.
So at least I get to go see

1122
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,640
them, right?
That's the that's the forward

1123
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,600
thinking that a lot of people
don't have.

1124
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,400
They're not looking at the fact
that they have people that care

1125
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,200
about them there too.
They're only looking at the fact

1126
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,760
that work sucks for 10 hours.
All they're thinking is I hate

1127
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,840
being here.
I hate this place.

1128
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,240
I hate this company.
I not that I have a job.

1129
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,480
It's providing for my family.
It's how I eat.

1130
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,160
It's how I keep a roof over my
head.

1131
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,200
Yeah, the saying that I often
say to myself when if those kind

1132
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,840
of thoughts come in, it's that
what you resist persists.

1133
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,720
I like that.
So you wanna continue with that

1134
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,400
negative thought, then you're
just gonna get the negative.

1135
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,640
And that's so true.
And that's what I got for that

1136
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,440
period of time where I got to
the darkest place in my life

1137
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,200
where everything was negative
and I was always right and

1138
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,160
everybody else was always wrong.
And holy shit that's not reality

1139
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,760
because I'm rarely right about
anything.

1140
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,640
And isn't it cool that you can
look back and go?

1141
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,280
That's what I used to do.
Now I choose something

1142
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,120
different.
It is and I told Chris yesterday

1143
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:44,000
on that on the £600 Down podcast
we were on like, you got to

1144
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880
become the person that nobody
likes living more than you,

1145
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,800
right?
You have to be able to say that

1146
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,440
I love getting up in the morning
and having another opportunity

1147
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,120
to see what life has to offer
and how I can help society and

1148
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,720
myself at the same time, right?
How can my positivity and

1149
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,720
overcoming my demons help the
next person do that so that they

1150
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,160
can enjoy a quality of life that
I found right?

1151
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Exactly, yeah.
And taking care of yourself is

1152
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,400
priority.
That that's another one of those

1153
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,160
visuals that I have.
It's that really you can only

1154
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,760
give to others when your cup is
full and overflowing, right.

1155
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400
So you need to remember, take
care of yourself.

1156
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Yeah.
Very cool.

1157
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,160
Yeah.
Right now.

1158
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,120
So where can people find you
again, Lisa?

1159
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:38,360
So you can find
scottandi@forwardforwardwalkingchoices.com

1160
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,400
and you can find all three of my
books on Amazon as well, also on

1161
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:49,200
the Forward Walking Choices
website and yeah, on all social

1162
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,040
media platforms.
And I know I'm on your amazing

1163
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,480
podcast, but we also, Scott and
I have our podcast as well,

1164
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,920
Soulmates and Suitcases, and
we're excited to have see you

1165
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,960
there.
Video is on YouTube and audio on

1166
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Spotify.
Right on.

1167
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,520
All right.
Well, we always wrap up the show

1168
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,040
like this.
If you're having a bad day, if

1169
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,000
you're feeling depressed and
suicidal, don't do it.

1170
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,120
There's a hole in somebody's
heart that you're going to

1171
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,120
leave.
Somebody does love you.

1172
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,960
Somebody will miss you more
often, more people than you

1173
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,680
think.
So find somebody that you can,

1174
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,920
as James Hetfill says, talk that
shit out, man, and wake up

1175
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,440
tomorrow and let's start a brand
new day for Mike Michaels.

1176
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,600
I'm Chris Dunham.
She's Lisa.

1177
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,680
Rarely.
Is.

1178
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,360
That right?
Rarely.

1179
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Rarely.
I was so close, man.

1180
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,960
This is the Christian Mike show.
Tell Scott we said hello.

1181
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,800
You guys are an awesome couple.
Thanks again, Lisa for coming.

1182
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,680
On Tell Scott, I said hey as
well.

1183
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,120
Yeah, and I will.
Thanks, Chris and Mike.

1184
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,640
I appreciate it very.
You're welcome.

1185
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,000
You're welcome.
Don't go away when we sign off

1186
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,920
because we got to make sure
you're uploading properly.

1187
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,000
OK?
So until next time, everybody

1188
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,880
will see you.
Love you brother.

1189
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,640
Love you too, peace.
Quite clear.

1190
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:03,640
We don't want to fly in this
stuff to you.

1191
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,120
Look the tablet your insane.
Feel the tears.

1192
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:20,840
For your life, on your journey,
this is the place where you will

1193
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,200
go feel the trail behind your
eyes.

1194
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,520
Take a moment.
Look.

1195
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,800
Until you see him fight the
battle.

1196
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,480
That's you Fuck Wheel.
Fight the battle, but you fuck

1197
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,160
Wheel.
Who is this baby to your finger?

1198
01:03:43,000 --> 01:05:03,820
Oh yeah, this is to you.
Come down here, you haven't

1199
01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:10,300
found salty in the sand.
You won't fight him.

1200
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:14,740
Wait for the day or when he's
closer.

1201
01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:17,980
Out you get.
For the wind you went.

1202
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:20,440
No quizzes.
We're playing.

1203
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,680
Smile and you should you press
on the almighty man.

1204
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,880
You got a dream.
Who in your life to keep our

1205
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:37,480
soul in every man?
Take the trail behind your eyes.

1206
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:49,720
Feel the Soul Revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1207
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,680
yeah.
Take a moment.

1208
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Listen to your tear.
Fight your family.

1209
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:25,600
To you, mostly.
You gotta, you gotta.

1210
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,920
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.