#13 - Lucky

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None.
I just I just read your your

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name.
I know

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what that means.
Iron Dog Podcast.

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Network.
I found that Easter.

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I I find that I found that I was
like, that's fucking cool, man.

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Damn, that's the cool thing
about shit like that.

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Like you don't expect it.
So then when you find it, it's

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like one of those moments where
it's like, oh that's fucking

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right on, man.
Well, and it just proves.

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To you, I see the van on.
That I know more about you than

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most people.
So that's where that came from.

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This this is this is this is
true.

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And I have I have the tattoo to
to prove that yes you do Iron

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Dog.
That's that's as old as as us as

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our friendship I believe.
I think it was.

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It was around about the time
that I put that on my my arm

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that we were jamming.
Yeah, I remember when you did.

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It Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a lot of people over the

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years ask me if I'm in the Air
Force because of that.

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They think it's wings.
It does look like that if you

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don't know what it is.
Yeah, this is true.

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I think I was the only member of
the band that didn't have a

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tattoo and I still don't have a
tattoo.

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I That's why I just said why
don't you have any tattoos?

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You never thought of getting
one.

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Yeah, so I'll, I'll explain that
since you asked.

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So back in the day, tattoos were
a rebellious thing to do, right?

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Like be a heavy metal guitar
player.

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People went and got tattoos
because it scared people, It

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scared their parents.
So back then, I could never

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figure out what I wanted on my
body for the rest of my life.

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And I hate needles.
So the combination of those two,

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I just never went and did it.
And then it became socially

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acceptable and I was no longer
interested.

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I have nothing against it at
all.

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I I love it.
Yeah, I just not for me.

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Yeah, well, yeah, you you love.
Yeah.

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That was one of the reasons we
had Jake on the show, because he

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he wanted the the story behind
his his traditional, I forget

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what it's called now, like
tattoo.

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So furry.
Can't believe he said it is.

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So I he's going to, he's going
to freaking snap inside the head

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for not getting that right.
But you know, and hey, you know,

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I'm going to give you props when
when I well, true.

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But when when you had that dude
on from Scotland, I noticed.

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In watching Ireland, I noticed.
Dave's from Ireland, Sir.

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The whole mic thing.
The whole Dave's not here.

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The whole mic thing was legit.
Like I picked it up on that.

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I'm like, Oh no shit, that's
true.

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When when Dave was closer, it
sounded like a fuller you know,

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voice than when he was away.
So now you can see I've I've

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finally succumbed to your never
ending instruction.

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Listen man, putting the
microphone closer to me.

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So, so you know.
I don't.

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I know I don't.
I don't say these things to

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criticize.
I say these things to make a

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better end product.
And I did run sound for several

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bands.
And you did.

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I did build a recording studio
twice.

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I know.
So you did.

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Yes, you did.
I know everybody has commented

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on how great my sound is and I
always come to your defense and

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say he was the singer, he didn't
play an instrument, he didn't

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even run the PA.
He brought the Pai, ran the PA.

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So the one thing that Chris has
going for him is he does not get

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mad When you give him
constructive criticism, he

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follows it.
And as you folks can see now,

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from here to eternity, you're
going to hear a nice full Chris

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Dunham voice.
Exactly.

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Exactly.
I only took 13 episodes, man.

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I think.
I'm very.

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I'm very.
I'm very coachable.

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Yeah, I'm very coachable.
But sometimes it it it takes a

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minute to get to my the the
coaching to my head you know.

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And then and once I once I once
I do that then I realize it's

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that epiphany like oh shit.
And I'm not afraid to say you're

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right, you're right.
You're right about a lot of

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things when it comes to music
and recordings and and sound and

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PA's and stuff, because that was
one of the things you did.

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So yeah, you're right, man.
You're fucking right.

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And I tell you, I wrote.
Go ahead, go ahead.

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No, no, go ahead.
Tell me No, no, tell me.

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Well, I was going to I was going
to go down the path.

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Like the music, our intro music,
it's been it's been in my head

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and you know me well enough that
I just won't write lyrics to

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music just for the hell of it.
Like, I just, I just don't do

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that.
I have to.

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It has to come into my mind and
I'm and I don't know how many

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other you and I have talked
about this, but I don't know how

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many other people out there that
have have been in the music

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world and and wrote music and
whatnot, lyrics and melodies.

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To me.
It's always comes to me in that

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twilight part of falling asleep,
which has always been like just

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a motherfucker of it.
Because like all the stuff we

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wrote in Nemesis, unless I wrote
it at practice, because there

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was sometimes where I walked in
and we just, you guys had just a

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rift going that automatically
just something went off of my

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brain.
But for the most part, all the

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stuff that we would come up with
that wasn't written live in our,

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in our, in our practice sessions
would come to me in that

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twilight, like just about to
fall asleep.

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But then and then you kind of
drift into like the kind of

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unconsciousness.
And then all of a sudden the

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muse starts waking up and
starts.

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And I had that happen, man, like
shit, you not like three or four

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nights ago I was in that zone.
I was falling asleep and then it

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popped in my head and I had this
whole fucking, you know, I think

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it was like 8 lines, which would
be the two verses and a chorus

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that was going to go to that
music.

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And then and I and I kept
repeating in my head over and

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over again and I was thinking I
should write this down like I'll

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fucking remember in the morning.
Shit you not, dude.

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Woke up in the morning, took me
about half a day to realize.

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And I text you and I'm like,
motherfucker.

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I had what I thought, right,
Which now is never going to be

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known, would have been the best
fucking song lyrically to go

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with that, with the melody I was
forming in my head, 'cause it

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just, it reminds me of the cult
a little bit with that big sound

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of da na na na na, you know that
you do.

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Which is probably why the cult
popped up on YouTube Music,

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because you know, our phones
listen to us now and they were

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doing them.
One of their songs, firewoman,

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like a reunion thing they're
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And I'm like, holy shit, the
dude can still sing.

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He's not animated anymore
because you can't.

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You can't be.
But he can still hit those notes

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I wasn't pressed.
Oh yeah, they sound amazing.

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And a lot of the reason the a
lot of the reason that Billy

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Duffy and I so name dropping for
those out there.

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Billy Duffy is the guitar player
for the cult.

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The reason that we have a lot of
the same sound, we don't sound

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the same.
One of the reasons that we have

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the same style of big sound is
we were the only guitar player

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in the band.
So you have to fill that sound

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out with something, right?
We don't have a keyboard player

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to rely on, nor do we have a
rhythm guitar player to rely on.

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So I will say that not I, I
wouldn't say he's one of my

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influences, but I would say I
was influenced by him for sure,

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because their sound to your
point is just fantastic.

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Yeah, clean to the point.
It's full and I've always right

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and and I've always been
impressed with just a four piece

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band.
I'm obviously impressed with

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like bands like Rush and
Triumph.

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You know because they're three
piece you know bands.

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But four piece bands to be able
to pull off and and create a a

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fat sound, you know where there
is no whether it's just where

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it's just going to be.
Force piece, I just mean a

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singer not doing anything but
singing guitars, playing all the

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leads and rhythms, A drummer
playing the drums and the bass

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keeping the beat.
So I'm not talking about on the

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side stage, you got to right,
Right, Exactly.

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Not like side stage where you
got a really guitar player

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playing.
Like I love Ultra Bridge, but

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Miles and and Mark Tremonti
playoff each other because you

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know, Tremonti is the lead
guitar player.

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Miles does a lot of rhythm
stuff.

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I mean Miles is fantastic
guitarist from what I've seen

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live and shit.
But I I like being able to fill

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a space with really just three
musical instruments and and

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build such a dynamic sound that
the singer can step in and just

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kind of fill that final piece of
that that final space in there

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and just take it somewhere.
I've always liked that.

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That's why I've always liked not
having more than three of the

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members in a band.
I just, I think it clouds,

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clouds, shit.
Then you get more personalities

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and you know, I mean I don't
know because I was never in.

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I think one band that was in had
more than four people, but I was

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a short lived band because we
just none of us saw eye to eye.

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That was a bump in the road.
I think after, before or after

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Numesis, I don't remember, but
that's it.

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So what do you want to talk
about today?

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Mr. Mike Michaels Let's you know
a Guitar player of Numesis

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Rock'n'roll Band.
Well, I was going to say

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something.
What was I going to say?

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OK, I don't know.
I don't know.

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I was going to say I was.
Going to say half.

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I was going to say I agree with
you on only having four members

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in the band, but but there's a
butt in there.

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Right, Yeah.
We were at the point where I

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was.
I was writing so many different

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guitar parts that I couldn't
pull off live, and we didn't

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have John Paul Jones to play
keyboards and bass guitar at the

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same time.
Rick wasn't quite up to that

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caliber of player.
Nobody is up to that caliber of

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player.
I'm not dissing Rick in any way.

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He was a great bass player, but
the reason that Led Zeppelin can

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get away with that is that John
Paul Jones filled in those gaps.

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You didn't miss the some of the
guitars you missed if you were a

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freak like me and you knew their
music inside and out.

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But my point is our music was
getting to that point where,

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just like I did on that intro
music, there's three independent

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guitar parts all playing three
different things at the same

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time, right?
You can't.

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What do you do when you get on
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I got two hands and one.
Guitar, right, But that.

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I'm just defending Mark's point
duty of of he wants you to hear

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what he hears in his head,
right?

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That's why those people are
there.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and he probably pays.

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Him and there's he.
Probably pays him $500 a a night

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or something.
You know, they're just hired

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guns.
Sure, sure.

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Oh yeah.
But that's that's one of those

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things that's nice about about
how you can record now too,

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because back when we were doing
our thing, it really was, it was

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still an 8 track, 16 track, 32
track at the most right, correct

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and you know 20.
Four actually. 24 was top back

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then, right?
You had to string tape machines

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together to get more than 24
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I think you could do 2 together
and get 48.

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Yeah, yeah, probably.
We'll ask Tony when we have him

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on that.
Was the beauty of of.

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He's a studio.
Guru there you go.

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There you go.
Studio Guru.

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So so we do have we do have for
the listeners.

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No.
We do have a YouTube channel.

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I think it's is it is, is it
live?

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If you could is the Mike on
YouTube.

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I have not checked it out.
Why don't you pull it up there,

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Maestro?
I mean, let me see, let me see,

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let me see.
Chris is our statistician and

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Chris all around Google game.
You got to have one of those

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nowadays.
You got to have one of those.

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There's oh, I just hit Chris,
Chris and Mike.

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For some reason they came up.
There's a band called Chris Mike

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which is funny.
Really.

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Chris and Mike Show podcast.
Yeah.

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Oh, maybe I should go to
YouTube.

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That would probably be smart.
Chrissy coughing.

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Don't want to cough on the
microphone.

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Bad thing.
Yes, go to YouTube And Chris and

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Mike Show.
Chris and Mike Show.

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Because we started.
We're building it.

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We're building it.
Oh, come on, spell it right,

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man.
That would fucking be helpful.

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Sometimes my brain tells me what
numbers, what letters to hit and

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then yeah, for some reason it
doesn't work.

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The same thing happens to me,
trust me.

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Hence my name today, which is a
secret to everybody but us.

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Maybe.
OK, so we're not live yet, but

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we're working on it.
OK.

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Yeah.
So you can just walk me through

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that.
So for our listening audience

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out there, we do have a YouTube
channel coming.

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Chris is working on it.
And yes, it's attached to my

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name because he's already a
business owner and we didn't

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want to mess things up.
So I will finish that for him as

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soon as possible and then we
will have a YouTube channel and.

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For us.
For us.

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Yes, right.
You may even see me pop on there

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and find.
Our stuff this.

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All this?
Play a little.

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Uploaded.
Yeah, I might.

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Even pop on there and play a
little guitar for the people who

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one never knows when that might
happen.

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Yes, I might pick you a little
ditty.

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There you there you go.
I've been told I can do that.

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I like that.
You can absolutely you can do

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it, everyone, because it's our
YouTube channel.

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So, you know, let it fly, man.
Let it fly.

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So the people that have followed
us at Facebook, that's amazing.

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I think we just went over 300
like we're at three O 7 or

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something.
Yes, yes, we did.

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Been getting a lot of
compliments on the content, so

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thank you for everybody who's
participating and giving us

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positive and constructive
criticism.

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Both of them are.
Yes.

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Accepted.
Like how I need to talk into the

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microphone and have a closer to
my face.

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Well, I I think I made the point
last week.

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There's a reason I chose you to
be the singer of the band.

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It's because you got a good
voice and it really is doing you

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a disservice if the listening
audience is not hearing that

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full voice.
You know, I've been told I got a

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good voice and I can't carry a
tune in a bucket, so.

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You never did any backup vocals
with Nemesis.

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No, you guys wouldn't want me.
Rick or Rick and I.

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Yeah, you guys wouldn't let me.
Oh, OK.

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Huh.
Jason was asked.

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Jason would ask how many
microphones we needed and you

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guys would say two.
I was like, well, what if I

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wanted to say something?
You would just come over and let

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me say something.
You would?

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Yeah.
Yeah, exactly, Exactly.

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I'd give you the mic.
Hey Mike Inject drop your

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opinion.
I think I was too busy playing

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rhythm and lead guitar and
smoking cigarettes and getting

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high.
And yeah, a lot of things were

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going on back then.
It was a full time job.

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Is it, what's the weather like
there?

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What's what's the weather like
there today?

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Because here we've got we're
getting like pounded with rain.

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We're going to have like an inch
and a half over the next like 12

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hours.
So let me.

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Stop since yesterday.
Let me tell you what we've been

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through in the last, I don't
know, 72 hours.

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It was cold as fuck.
There's no other way to put it.

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You think that hell is hot.
It's not.

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It's frozen.
No way to put it.

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So.
Right.

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Well, that's why the Eagles were
coming back when hell froze

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over, you know?
Correct.

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They were.
They were.

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They couldn't have been any more
correct.

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So in the last 72 hours, we've
had -20 to 30 wind chill and

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then it snowed.
Not a lot.

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But then it decided to warm up
to just above freezing and rain

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all night.
So in some places we had an inch

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of ice on the roads and the
power lines in your house.

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Thank God we didn't lose our
power.

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But yeah, driving the generator,
No, I do not.

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I should have bought it.
Before you should get a.

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Generator.
Well, listen, man, before COVID

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to get a whole house generator
was about 6 to $7000.

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For my house, it's more than
doubled.

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Now they're about. 13 to 15.
Well, it's about 13 to 15 around

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here, OK.
And while I have $13,000, I have

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other things that I would like
to spend that $13,000 on.

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Right.
I know that the last time that

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you knew me, I guess this is a
little bit of what I wanted to

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talk about today.
I was thinking the last time

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that you saw me was 15 years ago
when we were going to put

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another band together.
We jammed.

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Right.
Right.

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Was told by somebody that saw us
before.

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Yeah.
And we were told by Kevin, who

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saw us before in concert and in
his backroom, that we sounded as

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good or better than we ever had.
Yep, just in that short time.

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So I just got to thinking about
that today that was probably

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month number, I don't know maybe
six or seven into my recovery.

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So you saw me pretty much at the
worst that anybody ever saw me

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other than maybe Carrie because
I took.

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Well, I think Carrie took me out
to.

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Lunch.
In the middle of that, when I

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when I was right in the middle
of my addiction, I mean, I

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probably look like death warmed
over that day that I saw.

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But yeah, you're one of the few
people that actually saw me at

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my worst, for sure.
That's crazy.

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And there are the irony of that
is I didn't, I didn't know that.

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I didn't know you were in that
in that you know me battle at

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the time.
Yeah, I know you damn it.

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I'll add it.
Everybody hides it man.

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Unless you're me and and just
fucking hey, you know, here you

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go, world, you know?
Well, I wasn't ready to admit.

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No, I am.
That's the trip.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Well.
Well, nobody is.

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It takes time.
I'm an anomaly, man.

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You know, I got enough.
I learned a long time ago this

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was.
It's ripped that shit off like a

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Band-Aid.
You're going to love me, hate

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me.
Either way, it doesn't matter

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how or what I say, 'cause you're
going to love me or hate me.

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So I might as well not walk any
fine line.

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Just be who I am and you fucking
deal with it, man.

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And that's where I that's where
I got to.

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So the way that I think of it is
almost identical.

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I did it.
I can't undo it.

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Oh, good.
And if it saves one person from

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going as far as I did, then it's
all worth it to talk about it,

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you know, because at the end of
the day.

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Agreed 100% man.
The only thing that I ever

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really I'm not going to say I
needed it, but it never hurt me

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and it always made music more
enjoyable.

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What's to smoke pot?
I never had a problem with

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marijuana at all.
You could take it away from me

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tomorrow, just like my employer
did, and I went nine years

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without ever touching it.
That's not an addiction.

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So when we're talking about
addiction and recovery, I want

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to make it very clear to the
people that are listening

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because I sound like I'm sending
mixed messages because I do get

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high and I enjoy it and there's
nothing wrong with it and it's

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fucking legal.
So I waited my whole life to be

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able to say that.
Publicly.

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As much as I like to say that
I'm a recovering addict, right I

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I said it on another podcast.
If you said that out loud 10

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years ago, they'd put you in
jail.

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Yeah, but I I agree with that.
It's it's now.

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Nikki thinks marijuana's a
gateway drug and some people

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still have that mindset, which I
get.

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And I respect that because
everybody's entitled to their

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own opinion.
And you and I both know we're

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not going to disrespect
anybody's opinion.

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We're going to value it and
we'll have a conversation about

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it and it is what it is.
No, we're going to disagree.

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Respect.
It I never really smoked a ton

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of pot.
Exactly.

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And I never really smoked pot at
all.

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You know, I did when my neck,
when my neck was was gone and

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the last six months of that, I
had a friend who here locally

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that had a connection with
somebody that had the medical

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marijuana cause at the time,
medical marijuana was legal in

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Arizona.
This was 2014, the end of 2013

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to 14.
So being an alcoholic, I can't

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take painkillers because I just,
I just can't.

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So I can't.
I I'm Advil and Tylenol and

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that's it.
So when you have vertebrae in

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your neck that are not getting
spinal fluid because it's it's

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was fused at birth and then it's
just grinding your your two

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vertebrae are just grinding and
and.

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I have that from my car.
That, man, It's just insane.

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I mean.
It's called degenerative.

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OK, so you know, so it's so.
Yes, believe me, I know.

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Right.
So that shit's that shit's

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insane, right?
If it wasn't for my buddy who

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had that connection and yeah,
yeah.

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So those of you who see me not
being able to sit still, that's

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a lot of the reason I do it.
I got to move every now and then

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to crack my neck.
And this is, yeah, yeah.

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And and that's the thing.
And this is one of those things

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that I've never, like discussed
publicly.

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Just because, like, you know,
like kids don't know.

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But I like legit.
They'd go to bed and I'd go out

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back and I'd, I'd hit that
medical stuff and I'd just, I'd

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sit there and just let it, you
know, take the pain away.

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Legit.
It doesn't go to sleep.

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Without pain and and that's how
I lived, right?

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And that's how I lived the last
three months before I had the

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ACDF surgery, where they went in
to the base of my neck

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sometimes.
That's what they wanted to do to

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me.
It's Peyton Manning surgery.

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Yeah, and it worked there.
You.

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Know it did.
Absolutely.

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Was pain free within a month or
so after recovery.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah.

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I should have done it full on, a
chicken down.

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And then and then like to your
point and and to and to your

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point the the I think the day,
well, probably two or three

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months, two months or so after
once I finally was up and around

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and then I remembered oh shit,
you know I still have that stuff

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that he gave me.
I flushed it because I didn't

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need it anymore.
So it's it's not it's not so

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much an addiction like people
think and I think that's why

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it's legalized to the level that
it is.

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And I don't, I don't think the
NFL ever test sport now because

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it's such a recovery mechanism
for the for the football players

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who just get their bodies beat
as shit.

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You know every.
Week and they don't.

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They don't hit and practice.
Go ahead, I I I think that we

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should hammer that point home
that as a painkiller, I don't

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think people understand because
you know, if you've never done

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it, there's so many
misconceptions of what happens.

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I I described the first time on
another podcast, so I I won't go

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deep into it, but I just
remember saying that's it.

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You know, I kept waiting for the
other shoe to drop, you know,

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it's like, when does it get bad?
It doesn't get bad.

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And the paranoia that people
feel, I think that's good for

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them.
The reason that I don't have a

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lot of paranoia is because, no,
it is it.

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I it took me a long time to come
to terms with what that paranoia

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00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,440
is, what that paranoia is, is it
shit that's rattling around in

452
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,520
your subconscious?
Then until you get high, you

453
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,600
don't even know it's there.
It's the stuff that you've

454
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,240
suppressed into the back of your
mind that you just locked that

455
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,320
closet door and you don't deal
with that shit.

456
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,680
When you get high, that stuff
comes out like, ah, hey, we were

457
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,840
here and you were ignoring us
and now you can't because you're

458
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:43,880
stoned, right?
I don't have a lot of that

459
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,360
because I do a lot of self
reflection every day, right?

460
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:50,080
I meditate.
I think about the things that

461
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240
I've done wrong.
I think about the shit that I

462
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720
said wrong and how I'm going to
handle it next time I'm a

463
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
fucking weirdo.
A lot of people don't put that

464
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,920
kind of time into their self
reflection.

465
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,000
You and I have to, because we're
recovering addicts, and to stay

466
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:11,040
not addicted, it requires a lot
of mental focus on a daily basis

467
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,880
that I don't think people put
what kind of time that takes

468
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520
into perspective.
But back to the painkiller side

469
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,400
of it.
If you don't like to smoke, go

470
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,240
try some edibles.
You know, for I'm talking to the

471
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320
people who have never done it.
If you're afraid to do it, go

472
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,880
buy yourself a bag of gums and
take a little tiny piece of it.

473
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,560
You know, don't eat the whole
thing.

474
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,560
Cut it into a little tiny piece.
Because once again, my body eats

475
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840
THC like there's no tomorrow.
Chris will attest to this.

476
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,480
My drummer and I used to smoke
pot like it was going out of

477
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,200
style and this was the weak shit
back in the day.

478
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,160
And neither of us were ever to
the point where we were unable

479
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,720
to function where we were.
You always able to hold a

480
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,880
conversation with us like you
are right now, so.

481
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,560
Absolutely.
It affects everyone differently.

482
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,000
And the one thing that I came to
the conclusion was is that my

483
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,520
body chemistry is as such, that
it just murders THC.

484
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,440
It knows what to do with it, it
processes it and it gets rid of

485
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,600
it because I can get completely
blown out.

486
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800
And two hours later it's like it
never even happened, right?

487
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,440
Like there's no, there's no side
effect at all.

488
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,760
It's just like, oh fuck, we're
sober again, you know?

489
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,640
And sober's the wrong word.
We're back to this reality.

490
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Or whatever you want back to
normal.

491
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Back to normal.
And and.

492
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,400
Yeah.
And.

493
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,440
And you know.
Yeah, yeah.

494
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, no, I get it.

495
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720
And that's you know, it'll in 10
years from now.

496
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,200
I mean you look at where we've
come since 1970 as a world.

497
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,680
Look at where we've come since
2000 as a world.

498
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,320
You know so 10 years from now
every single state's going to

499
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,000
have it legalized at some form.
And I, I, I I don't know about

500
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,400
the NFL whether they whether
it's is something they don't

501
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600
test for anymore.
But like Rico Williams, right,

502
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,280
bad ass running back that was
drafted by the Saints.

503
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,200
He was so transparent about
smoking pot and that's why he

504
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320
filled a couple of drug tests
because they used to test for

505
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,760
it.
But it was all about recovery.

506
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,920
And it was all about, I mean,
you obviously watched football

507
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,160
this week.
And again, as did I.

508
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,640
You know, people just get lit
up, man.

509
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,120
I can't imagine playing football
in, you know, -2° weather and

510
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,320
getting just railed, coming
across the middle of the field,

511
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840
reaching for a pass and being
completely exposed and just

512
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760
getting just lit up and
sandwiched by two defenders

513
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
coming at you full speed.
That shit hurts.

514
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Oh yeah, And if they can use the
marijuana as a way to alleviate

515
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,280
pain and and just recover
quicker and by all means, man,

516
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,960
'cause, you know, they're using
HGH and shift, you're only using

517
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800
all kinds of stemless stuff,
'cause there's no fucking way

518
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Aaron Rodgers, as old as he is
in football years, recovered

519
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,760
that quickly from a total terror
ACL to where he was throwing the

520
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000
ball and making moves with his
legs.

521
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,920
What Within two months after the
surgery, there's no way unless

522
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,120
there's something help, enhance,
helping enhance that recovery,

523
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,440
yes.
Think back to you know, you and

524
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,120
I are about the same age, so
think back to the 1980s because

525
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,560
that's probably the first time
that you and I can really put

526
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640
into perspective sitting down
and watching sports or whatever.

527
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,560
It was a big deal when a guy was
£300 on a team.

528
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,200
Right now everyone on the on
both lines, every one of them

529
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,760
IS300 plus.
How does that happen?

530
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Yeah.
Are people getting let me get

531
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,360
here before you answer that
this?

532
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Government conspiracy?
Before you answer that, I like

533
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,360
the.
Government conspiracy?

534
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Let's, let's put it even in a in
a more crazy fucking

535
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,440
perspective.
Let's go all the way back to

536
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800
yeah, I'm a I'm a history nerd
too.

537
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,840
So the average soldier in the
Confederate.

538
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640
No.
The average soldier in the Civil

539
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,480
War on both sides, their weight
was 125 lbs.

540
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,080
The average soldier was 125 lbs
in the Civil War.

541
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,640
So we've gone from a big bad
dude.

542
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,280
No, I do not know why.
No, because of the food, man.

543
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Think about it, all the food
they ate back then that was not

544
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,400
manufactured.
It was.

545
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280
It was farm food.
It was, it was free range

546
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,040
chickens.
It was free range cows.

547
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Oh yeah.
They weren't.

548
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Processed none of that shit was
man made.

549
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,040
It was right.
That's what I'm saying.

550
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,200
So so you take that to now even
in the last 30 years of our

551
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,160
lifetime you like like kids like
you see it with with kids now

552
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840
like they're developing younger
ages because of all the fucking

553
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,080
shit they're putting in food all
the all the the crap and they

554
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,360
it's like the eggs like we have
farm fresh eggs versus store

555
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
bite eggs and I've I've done
videos about this shit.

556
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,800
The farm fresh eggs man.
The yolk is orange.

557
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,960
The store bought eggs.
The yolk is yellow.

558
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440
What the fuck?
Why why is that.

559
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Well because of the shit they
pump in at the Paleo.

560
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Yeah the hormones and shit they
put in that crap.

561
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,600
The shells are thicker on farm
fresh eggs as opposed to the

562
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800
store bought eggs like I can
store bought egg click and it

563
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160
opens up farm fresh eggs shit
you not same force click click,

564
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
click.
Finally, it opens up, it's a

565
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,120
thicker shell.
It's a, it's a, it's a it cooks

566
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,920
different it it keeps that
orange color to it, whereas the

567
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680
the store bots go yellow.
So I think it all has to do with

568
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840
what they've done to food and
how it's now manufactured on a

569
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,600
massive level, you know, as
opposed to the farm fresh shit.

570
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Because then you go into like
the 80s, right?

571
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880
You'd have the big kids that
would show up that were, you

572
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,280
know, a rarity, you know, 6 to
you know, 200 LB Lineman.

573
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320
Like you said, those were rare.
So they would just have all of

574
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,440
those would be lineman and
everybody else would just be 6

575
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,600
feet tall, you know, But but now
it's just insanity.

576
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920
I think it all comes down to
food and how it's processed and

577
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,200
how it's how it's made.
So that and just that's

578
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,280
physically making people bigger.
I think so.

579
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,800
Just.
Better nutrition.

580
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Nikki's a teacher.
Well, not, but it's not

581
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,600
necessarily better, right?
Because where is When we were

582
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,800
growing up, girls wouldn't
develop till like 1314 years

583
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,080
old, you know, I mean, it was an
anomaly for a girl to start

584
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,680
develop and showing you know,
things when she was in 6th

585
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,080
grade, right?
And correct.

586
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,360
However, I don't know what the
age is.

587
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120
Yeah, it was weird to see a
chick that had no in 6th grade

588
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,480
when you and I were kids.
Right, right.

589
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,720
But now it's commonplace.
It's, it's it's common.

590
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,960
It's, it's.
And that's all it's got to be

591
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
because of what they're putting
in the food, because where are

592
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,680
they getting the hormones from,
right?

593
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Because that's what does that
right?

594
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,440
Where are they getting the extra
estrogen?

595
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Where are they getting the test?
It's got to be, it's got to be

596
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,200
in what they're doing with foods
and how they're manufacturing

597
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320
them.
Because they're not doing it.

598
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920
They're not letting farmers farm
anymore, right?

599
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760
They're they're selling all
their shit up.

600
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,560
It's like supercharging their
estrogen and it's supercharging

601
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,880
our testosterone.
Yeah, yeah.

602
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Yep, Yep, yeah, exactly like we
bought.

603
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,480
We bought a quarter cow.
We've talked about this and if

604
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,480
and if I took store bought
ground beef versus the cow, we

605
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960
bought ground beef with just
grass fed, no bullshit.

606
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,200
You put it on the counter.
You can.

607
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,240
The difference of the color is
insane.

608
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,920
The difference of smell is
insane.

609
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520
The store bought smells like
rotten.

610
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,440
If now that we have the real
deal, Nikki will actually enjoy

611
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,199
the ground beef more from the
dead cow that we bought than the

612
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,199
one we get from the store
because of the taste difference

613
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,800
in the texture and the odor.
The odor was just alarming to me

614
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,159
because.
Absolutely.

615
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Because the shit you're buying
at the store is like just a week

616
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600
out from being no good, right?
Or a month out from being no

617
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,280
good.
Your stuff is a year two years

618
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400
out from being no good.
That's the difference.

619
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,320
My brother does the same.
I.

620
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Still have.
I still have.

621
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,400
I think.
Yeah, yeah, we've had it.

622
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,159
Fuck, we shouldn't have your
brother on the show.

623
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,040
We've had it.
Oh, he'd probably love it.

624
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,480
I don't.
Know 4-4 or five months now.

625
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,199
Yeah.
Four or five months now we're

626
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,600
still we still have meat and I
give some of the sky and and

627
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Michael Fry Eugene Michael
Eugene Fry Junior her fiance and

628
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,199
you know like here has some
steak or have this.

629
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,840
You know it's just you know it's
a trip.

630
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,560
I think that's what it comes
down to It's just the way the

631
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,720
government is is now in control
of and I'm not and I'm not

632
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:06,920
saying that it's a conspiracy
theory.

633
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,720
Oh but legitimate.
No.

634
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,400
No.
Every farm every farmland every

635
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,360
farmer.
Right.

636
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760
They're, they're, they're.
It's being bought up by

637
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,760
corporate they're.
I forget.

638
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,760
Monsanto.
Right.

639
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,520
And then they're doing this,
yeah.

640
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,920
And they're doing the seeds like
they're making the I forget.

641
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Yeah, that's Monsanto.
It's OK.

642
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,520
OK.
Oh, OK.

643
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:29,320
Gotcha.
Gotcha.

644
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,080
It's like there's something.
What wasn't Brussels sprouts.

645
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,480
Brussels sprouts when we were
kids were fucking disgusting,

646
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,280
man.
Like nasty ass things.

647
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,720
They smelled.
They were fucking.

648
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,240
The texture was just.
Her.

649
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,000
That's because nobody.
Was talking about because I like

650
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,760
Brussels Sprout, right?
But.

651
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,760
You got an audit code.
And that's one of those things

652
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,560
that she's true, but she but she
also learned that they they

653
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
fucked with the DNA of the
Brussels sprout to make it more

654
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
enjoyable and edible.
Really science can do now, which

655
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
is so certain things are cool.
Technology.

656
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Yeah.
This is this part of technology

657
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,480
is cool.
Right.

658
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,280
We're doing this.
You're in Pontiac, IL.

659
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480
I'm at Gilbert, AZ.
We're having a fucking live

660
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,800
conversation without any
glitches.

661
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,720
Right.
So some technology is really

662
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,880
cool, but when they start
fucking, when they start fucking

663
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,080
with the crops and let's make
better seeds and it's like you,

664
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,120
you're you're fucking with
evolution, man.

665
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Well.
Once you start doing that, it's

666
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,600
a slippery slope to chaos.
I couldn't agree with you more

667
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,760
and I I'd actually, you know,
living in the middle of corn

668
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,880
country, I'd like to get a
farmer on here that knows way

669
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600
more than I do because I'm going
to talk my I'll be.

670
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Cool.
I'm going to talk my 10%

671
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,520
educated fucking nonsense and
say what I know about Monsanto

672
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:53,480
is that if you're planting those
seeds and those seeds get blown

673
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,680
over even in pollination to
another private farmer, and they

674
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,840
find those seeds in the next
farm, they will sue that guy for

675
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,880
everything he's got.
One in 10 Indian farmers commit

676
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,600
suicide every year because
Monsanto takes everything they

677
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,280
have.
I don't understand how somebody

678
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,160
can patent what keeps us alive
on this planet.

679
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,560
No one should own a patent on
seeds.

680
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,800
Agreed that.
That blows my mind, and I've

681
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,600
heard the story again and again.
Yeah, me too.

682
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,400
It's it's money.
It is money.

683
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,840
It's all comes down to money.
It all comes.

684
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,600
It's like you're that's you're
not supposed to have monopolies

685
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,360
with with certain things, right?
Cox Communications is the

686
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,880
monopoly in Arizona when it
comes to Internet and they suck.

687
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,560
I mean the.
Media com here When?

688
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,200
I cut.
You have Cox.

689
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920
We have Media com.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it suck.

690
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,840
Yeah, yeah.
And I used to send their checks.

691
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,920
I'd spell it cocks, and they'd
still cash them every single

692
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,560
time.
So here, here's a good example

693
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,200
of where technology is good
because you were able to write

694
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,640
that, you were able to write
them off.

695
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,520
I was able to write Mediacom off
because there's they're not the

696
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,800
only fish in the sea now.
You got fire sticks, you have

697
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,160
YouTube TV, you have fubo.
So technology in that respect

698
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480
really started to bust up some
of those monopolies, because

699
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,280
whether people want to admit it
or not, they had a monopoly for

700
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,400
the last 30 years.
They were a monopoly when I

701
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
lived out there.
Cox was your really.

702
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,720
That was your only option if you
wanted cable or Internet.

703
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,240
Yeah.
And where And yeah, and

704
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,720
unfortunately, yeah, where I'm
at right now, it's still

705
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,760
supposedly Verizon has the plug
in in the wall thing we're

706
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,920
looking into.
But for the most part, Cox is

707
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,800
just the dominant force in the
West Coast, which just you're

708
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,160
not supposed to have monopolies,
man.

709
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,240
And here you go.
And to continue to do what you

710
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,960
want to do with the podcast.
Seeds, all that kind of shit.

711
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,840
You need you need a cable.
I actually I'm on DSL right now

712
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200
and I'm struggling so that's why
I'm going to the fiber optic

713
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,320
right?
But to reel this thing all the

714
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,840
way back?
Starlink, Michael Eugene Fry

715
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Junior's Yeah.
Yeah.

716
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,280
No, go ahead.
Uh, huh.

717
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,360
I want to hear it.
No, no, no.

718
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,560
I want to hear.
Back Michael Eugene Fry.

719
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,760
Junior has I'm going there.
I'm going there.

720
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Yeah.
Michael Eugene Fry has a

721
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Starlink.
He had it where he where he

722
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
lived in Black Canyon City.
So they brought it with him.

723
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,120
He brought it with him when they
moved into the edition over

724
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,840
here.
And we had Internet struggles

725
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,760
this week where it was like 4
hours in the morning and like 6

726
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,880
hours at night.
Some of our neighbors were gone

727
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520
all day without it.
So I I told them I'm like we

728
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,120
need to figure out how to hook
this shit up and just, you know,

729
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,800
get rid of Cox entirely.
And and then now it's raining.

730
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,880
So obviously nobody's getting on
the roof this weekend.

731
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,360
But it was badass.
Like he never had a problem.

732
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360
It was super lightning fast.
It would move.

733
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,560
It moves as the satellite moves
in the sky.

734
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,040
But it was it was legit.
We just have got to we got to

735
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,960
find somebody who can hook it up
now and and just get away with

736
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,720
with Cox completely because it's
fucking Cox sucks, man.

737
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,880
It just sucks.
So how does it work like right

738
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,040
now when you're having
thunderstorms?

739
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,920
And is it like DIRECTV or Dish
where you lose your Internet

740
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,840
signal during a storm?
I wouldn't think Elon would let

741
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,600
that happen, but.
That's a good, I don't know.

742
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,240
Oh, you need to do some
investigating on that because we

743
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:23,600
don't.
Have it hooked up and it wasn't.

744
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,520
Yeah.
Oh, I got that guy.

745
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,840
I'm asking Michael Eugene Fry
Junior because he's the one that

746
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
yeah, yeah yeah that's that's
Skye's fiance.

747
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,440
So it's his.
He has it.

748
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,240
We just we just when he moved
over here we didn't hook it up

749
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,520
because we had Cox.
But you know, we have those

750
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,800
little Aero Aero boxes too ero,
they're different spots of the

751
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,040
house that kind of help build a
force field of of of Wi-Fi in

752
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,440
the.
When I let the chickens out, I

753
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,760
still have, I still pick up the
Wi-Fi.

754
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Yeah, that's what's around in
this podcast.

755
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,240
Right now I'm at the the.
In my house too, I'm at the the,

756
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,480
not the OK, I'm not the furthest
point NE of my of my acre, but

757
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,040
I'm kind of in the front of it.
And then the chicken coop is all

758
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,480
the way back in the southwest
corner and I can and so I can

759
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,880
still pick up the Wi-Fi, which
is cool.

760
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,200
So I don't lose it till I get
like 2 houses down, you know,

761
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,960
because I have the garage door
app on my phone and I can open

762
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,360
my garage door, you know, once I
turn the corner, it picks up the

763
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Wi-Fi.
There you go.

764
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,200
No, I was going to say.
You were talking?

765
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,840
About the.
Government getting.

766
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,240
Involved in you?
Know letting Monsanto own A.

767
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:45,600
Patent on basically.
Our survival, I So I equate that

768
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:52,320
to all the years that they
allowed marijuana to be illegal.

769
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,120
And then we had not that long
ago the opioid crisis where

770
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,080
every doctor in America, if you
bumped your elbow was handed out

771
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,280
painkillers because the
government was getting kickbacks

772
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,160
in the way, in the way of
lobbyists in Washington from Big

773
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Pharma for selling all these
opiates.

774
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,760
And they knew damn well what
they were doing.

775
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,280
And at the same time these same
people that people worship

776
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,080
whether they want to believe it
or not, if you, if you have any

777
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,760
faith in politicians, you're
worshipping them.

778
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Because I have 0 faith in any of
them.

779
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Fucking assholes.
They are so far removed from you

780
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,120
and I that they're living the
good life and you and I are out

781
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,720
here trying to survive, George
Carlin told us a long time ago.

782
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,160
This system is broken.
It's a big club and you ain't in

783
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,880
it.
And I believed him.

784
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,240
So when it comes to, it's the
good a boy.

785
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,960
Network man.
Absolutely.

786
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,360
So I got.
Criticized a few times this week

787
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000
from people who are obviously in
the Trump cult.

788
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840
And I'm fine with that.
You've been indoctrinated.

789
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,840
I'm sorry.
I I feel for you.

790
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,520
I don't like Joe Biden either.
I just fucking hate Donald Trump

791
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,880
that much because he's a fucking
bully.

792
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560
And let me talk about that just
for two seconds.

793
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,440
I'm not.
Scared of him?

794
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,440
As a bull, you know.
I got a couple.

795
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,720
People actually saying, oh, you
know, he's a bully, bully,

796
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,280
bully.
It's not that I'm afraid of him.

797
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,560
I don't like assholes.
He's a fucking asshole.

798
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,640
I don't like assholes.
I have never in my life made fun

799
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
of somebody that could not
defend themselves.

800
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,280
He makes fun of people who can't
defend themselves all the time.

801
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,360
They're not physically there,
and then he'll get things wrong.

802
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,400
I'm not going down.
This road again, I'm.

803
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,240
Just saying, this is where I'm
coming from.

804
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,760
I hate them all.
This system is broken.

805
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,800
BR OK EN broken.
I don't know.

806
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,280
I don't know what the answer is.
Absolutely.

807
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,800
This country is run by.
Corporations.

808
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,600
They are merely puppets.
Yeah.

809
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,120
And see that's, yeah.
Yeah.

810
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,880
And see the that's where the
problem lies.

811
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,000
I think instead of them being as
as as weird as it is to say the

812
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,160
country needs a a true
politician again, somebody that

813
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,480
is, is because back in it's it's
understood that presidents don't

814
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:33,840
don't run the country.
Congress and Senate do but like

815
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,840
your point you think Trump's a
bully and and Biden's Biden's a

816
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000
fuck so.
And there's people that agree

817
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,880
with that disagree with that
which is completely fine.

818
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,160
We have no problem with that.
But if a politician's a Pol

819
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Clinton, OK, Clinton to me
Clinton was was one of the best

820
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,000
presidents we ever had.
OK yeah he did a Monica but he

821
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,080
did what he did was nothing.
He's that he's the last

822
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,560
president.
I like done before.

823
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,040
He just got caught.
Right.

824
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,640
He just got a shit about I.
Don't give a fuck what he does

825
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,200
in his private life.
Oh, I don't.

826
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,720
I don't either.
I mean, it wasn't private

827
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:07,280
because it was in the White
House, but you get what I'm

828
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,960
saying.
But what My point is this.

829
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,480
He lived there.
He had Clinton as a politician

830
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,200
that that could, right?
But but he could.

831
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,720
He appealed to both sides of the
fence so he could he could bring

832
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,200
the Republicans and Democrats
together to make whatever change

833
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,240
needed to be made for the better
of the country.

834
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,680
It wasn't necessarily just to
line his own pockets and to make

835
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,640
profits when he left.
Where's where's Trump's?

836
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,520
A businessman, We know that, but
he's he was a he was a self-made

837
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,320
businessman.
He was a trust fund baby

838
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,760
businessman, which we talked
about.

839
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,600
Biden is nothing more than
riding on the coattails of Obama

840
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,080
or do you agree with that or
not?

841
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,720
He's a moron.
It's, it's.

842
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,600
He has.
He's.

843
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,600
Not in touch with this, right?
But he because he's not in touch

844
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,320
with the world at all.
You look at his stuff that his

845
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,120
staff posts, he's got 50%
dimension.

846
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,760
Dude, he don't even know where
he's at.

847
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Which proves the.
President means nothing when you

848
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,240
exactly it's.
Run by Congress and Senate.

849
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:12,040
We need a 45 year old, somebody
with with with a very creative

850
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,880
mind that understands how
politicians and politics work.

851
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,760
We couldn't agree with the
people.

852
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Not to the advantage of.
Those, and then you have to go

853
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
back to the term limits of the
Senate in Congress.

854
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,720
They need that shit needs to be
stopped after two or three

855
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,480
terms.
You can't be present more than

856
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,560
eight years, but you can live in
the Senate, in the Congress,

857
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,480
until the day you die once A
that's bullshit.

858
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,360
That's the other.
Thing that's wrong with the.

859
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,160
Country, right.
That's the other thing that's

860
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,000
wrong with the country is is
there gonna be term limits on

861
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,800
all the all the States and and
the Congress and the Senate's

862
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,040
and all that kind of jazz.
And he needs somebody young that

863
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,000
is not afraid to speak his mind,
but does so in a very prolific

864
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,880
way.
That's not going to pitch the

865
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
entire world against him and cut
it down the line 81,000,000 this

866
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,880
way, 81,000,000 that way.
But then when shit hits the fan,

867
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,960
you can't.
You can protest.

868
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:01,880
Everybody can protest.
That's our right as humans.

869
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,160
That's our right of being
American.

870
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,280
We can protest, but you need to
protest in a way that is

871
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,400
peacefully, fair and nonviolent.
Exactly like in the 60s.

872
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960
The 60s, say what you want about
the 60s, man, hear peace and

873
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,960
love.
But lots of things changed in

874
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,760
the 60s because of of of, I
don't know, I want to say

875
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,160
fruitful protest, but just there
was there was protests that were

876
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640
meaningful.
They knew how to do it.

877
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,000
And and and.
Segregation, right?

878
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,440
That's what nobody's nobody's
teaching anybody that nowadays,

879
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
anywhere.
I have a friend like this is the

880
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,600
chaos that we're building.
This is what we're building in

881
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,200
the world.
I have a friend Whose son he was

882
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,880
in a classroom doing nothing,
minding his own business.

883
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,360
He's he had a little issue with
reading.

884
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,640
He went and asked the teacher
question.

885
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,320
I just found this out yesterday
and it blew my mind.

886
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,920
Reading the reading, asked the
teacher question, went back to

887
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,120
his desk.
This bully who's an asshole

888
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,240
walked up to him, started giving
him shit, calling him names.

889
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,240
Her son said just leave me
alone.

890
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,760
And his buddies had set this up.
They filmed it.

891
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,840
The fucking dude started wailing
on him to the point he broke his

892
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,520
nose and knocked him out.
He was 12 desks away and 27 feet

893
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,520
from his chair while the Marine
Corps Reserve teacher in the

894
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,560
room after he knocked this kid
unconscious and turned around to

895
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,800
walk back to his desk.
You heard the teacher call his

896
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,160
name.
What the fuck that goes back?

897
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,800
To the home.
Life that goes right, that goes

898
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,360
back to home.
Life that goes back to the

899
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,480
parents having to work two jobs
and never being home to be able

900
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,920
to guide their children in the
right direction of life.

901
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,200
I mean, I don't know the whole
story behind the other kid, but

902
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,240
I know the story behind my
client and my friend, and she's

903
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,080
not.
She's not someone that is not

904
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,800
involved and doesn't care and
doesn't teach and doesn't mentor

905
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,120
and raise her children, right?
But a bully is a bully because

906
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,640
nobody's there paying attention
to him.

907
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,800
He's acting out.
It's a cry for help.

908
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
It's a cry.
It's like suicide, a bully,

909
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
suicide.
There's an underlying issue and

910
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,040
they're doing for help.
A bully is a bully.

911
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Because they're picking on
somebody that can't fucking

912
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,520
defend themselves.
I can't stress this enough.

913
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,040
You, you and I have said you and
I, Scott, Rick, we said

914
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,280
horrible.
And I've made this example a

915
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,880
million times and every friend
that's in my circle to this day,

916
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,960
we have said horrible, horrible
things to each other.

917
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:20,200
Horrible.
Because we can take it.

918
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,880
We know who we are and that's
how we like to have fun, right?

919
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,520
We can say, hey, quit being a
fucking moron, quit being AR

920
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,440
word.
We can say that to each other.

921
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,400
You don't and I don't have never
walked up to a person with Down

922
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,360
syndrome and said hey, you
fucking retard, that's never

923
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
happened.
That's not how I was raised.

924
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160
And when I say somebody's a
bully, that is my point.

925
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Donald Trump, praise on people
who can't defend themselves.

926
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,640
That doesn't make you a tough
guy.

927
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,800
That makes you an ass.
Agreed.

928
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,880
There's no other way to put it.
Absolutely.

929
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,320
And I.
Don't want an asshole?

930
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Run in my country.
If you do, or somebody else

931
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,840
does, that's their opinion.
I have my I'm entitled to my

932
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,480
opinion.
This is our show.

933
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,240
You're going to get my opinion.
You're not always going to agree

934
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:14,240
with it.
That's fine.

935
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,280
I want your opinion.
I want your opinion, I know you

936
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,160
do.
And The thing is.

937
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,160
Dude, I'm talking.
To the American public.

938
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,240
In the world at large, you and I
agree on a lot of things, and I

939
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,480
want to go someday.
When we got a lot more time you

940
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,080
and I had.
You have no idea how much I

941
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,440
agree with your view on
politics, and maybe that is the

942
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,760
system.
Maybe you say you can only run

943
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,720
for office from 35 to 65 and
that's it and you're fucking

944
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,640
done.
Yeah, you got to go do

945
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,600
something.
Else after, yeah.

946
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Yeah, because you can't.
You can't, right?

947
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,120
Because you can't.
You can't be a president unless

948
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,920
you're at least, what, 34 years
old?

949
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,560
I think you got to be 35.
I think is what it is.

950
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,800
Yeah, 35 and you got to be U.S.
citizen, correct?

951
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,760
There's no reason why they can't
be like, hey, you can't be

952
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,600
president if you're over 65.
If you're over 65, you're

953
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,000
technically you're retired
you're you're you're considered,

954
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,320
you know you're you're AARP now
like fuck off.

955
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Go and live on a beach.
I'm.

956
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,920
Being generous, dude, running
the.

957
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,040
Country.
I'm being generous, I'm saying

958
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,600
that's.
The last time you can run.

959
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,120
So if that's your first term,
you only get one term.

960
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,400
No, I don't.
I I yeah.

961
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,760
Yeah.
Yeah no, I I think, I think cap

962
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,640
that shit at 60 if you're 60,
yeah, 60 years old you can still

963
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,040
run but if you're if you if you
hit 65 during your four years,

964
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,640
that's it, you're done.
You can't get, you can't run for

965
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,720
re election.
I think that's the way you may

966
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:37,640
be.
Possibly fixed.

967
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,280
This is such a good conversation
and.

968
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,200
I know you got to go.
Do I?

969
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,920
Got to wrap it up.
You got 10 minutes.

970
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,840
That's something.
That I that's something.

971
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,280
We got to do our thing.
We got to do our thing.

972
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,960
I know that's something I want
to.

973
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,400
Unpack later on.
So that'll be a that'll be a

974
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,640
good topic for later on.
Yeah, no, we will.

975
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,480
I, I but I definitely want to
get Do we want to get to our our

976
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,400
our influences?
Do you think we do that in 10

977
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,040
minutes or should we leave it
for the next show?

978
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,200
No, we can do it.
What?

979
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Guess what?
Yeah, we can do it.

980
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,840
OK.
OK, you want me to start with

981
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,560
mine because I got it pulled up.
I don't need mine pulled up.

982
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,000
So this is Mike.
And I's musical.

983
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,760
Influences that have that that
why I Why?

984
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,960
Because I write everything you
know, so I know and you'll tell.

985
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,440
I write it because when I start
reading it.

986
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,880
So for so first and foremost for
me is the doors.

987
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,120
Because of Jim Morrison's love
of poetry, I considered myself a

988
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,760
poet.
So that opened that door for me

989
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,800
and and when I realized that
writing is a form of poetry and

990
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,280
the way lyrics and rhyming and
shit like that, that's just why

991
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,800
Morrison was like oh Oh yeah,
you know that's that kind of

992
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,640
opened the door to the doors for
me because of because of his

993
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,720
poetry and whatnot.
I know you'll agree with this

994
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,080
Andrew from Mother Love Bone.
I loved his showmanship and his

995
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,840
charisma and his ability to
capture the audience in the palm

996
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,840
of his hand and and no matter
what I saw him on, he was

997
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,120
always, it was always the
presence that he had that you

998
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,320
were drawn to him.
Like regardless of what he was

999
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,280
doing.
He was the focal point without

1000
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,080
even being the focal point.
You know what I mean?

1001
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,160
That makes sense real quick.
You gave?

1002
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,800
Me, an appreciation above and
beyond what I already had for

1003
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,080
both those bands, so I'll give
you credit for that.

1004
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,760
I did a lot more listening to
The Doors and Mother Love Bone

1005
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,920
after I met you for sure.
My dad introduced me to The

1006
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Doors.
I knew about Mother Love Bone.

1007
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,400
You gave me an appreciation on a
whole new level for both those

1008
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,360
bands.
So thank you.

1009
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Oh.
Right on.

1010
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Yeah.
You know, you're welcome.

1011
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:41,120
And then just kind of an in
general, a general influence was

1012
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,080
country music, but it was
country music from 75 to like

1013
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,160
808182, because that's what it
was always playing in my

1014
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,080
household in the mornings that
like, you get up, go to the

1015
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,480
kitchen.
That's what she had on the

1016
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,840
radio.
KNIXW Steven Martin, one of the

1017
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,440
great disc jockeys that ever
graced the airwaves.

1018
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,120
It was just that.
And then Elvis.

1019
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,960
My one of my first records I
ever got for a present was

1020
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Elvis.
I still have it.

1021
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,120
It's in my record collection.
I should pull it out for next

1022
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,760
show.
And it was cool, 'cause it had

1023
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,200
it has songs on it, but actually
had interviews with him.

1024
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,720
So that kind of opened up the
world to me.

1025
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,520
As far as it's it's holy shit
this is, you know, Elvis

1026
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,280
Presley, you know, and and here
he is talking on the same record

1027
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,320
that he keep his has songs being
played.

1028
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,640
That was kind of cool.
The Eagles, the Long Run album

1029
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,320
was my first real introduction
to mainstream rock'n'roll with

1030
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,440
harmonies and things like that.
That's awesome.

1031
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,080
Absolutely love.
Their song in the city, like in

1032
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,960
the city's one of my all times
favorite Eagles song?

1033
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,200
A lot of me too.
Like what?

1034
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,120
Me too, but I just.
I love.

1035
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:52,520
How it starts with the right
Yeah.

1036
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,880
Oh yeah, do that.
That's just how I'm with you.

1037
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,480
It's.
It's that fucking it's.

1038
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,400
That fucking soul.
It's that driving, just oh, if

1039
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,680
you're driving down the road and
that.

1040
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,000
Song comes on.
You're going 5 miles an hour, 10

1041
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,560
miles an hour faster instantly.
And you and you turn it up, man.

1042
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,080
Yeah, so that's kind of the gist
of it.

1043
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,000
What?
What a lot of my a lot of my

1044
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,440
writing in later years, the
music I've listened to were

1045
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,960
those those things.
Counting Crows and and Goo Goo

1046
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,880
Dolls, ironically enough, opened
up my brain for weird things

1047
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,560
from a standpoint.
And that.

1048
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,960
That, yeah.
And I think that's what it was

1049
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,120
considered.
No matter what I was working on

1050
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,360
the popped of my head if I had
that in the background then you

1051
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,080
know all of a sudden the song
idea would come in you know and

1052
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,920
and Alice In Chains too.
Like when I wrote when I wrote

1053
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,040
nothing man.
I was actually running

1054
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,680
scheduling setting up the lights
for a play in college and I had

1055
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,040
Alice In Chains playing over the
over the the theater music and

1056
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:01,600
shit.
She not.

1057
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,520
I was in the lighting booth and
nothing man, just came off my

1058
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,280
hand like it was fucking nothing
with Rooster was playing in the

1059
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,800
background and Ralph.
Fuck yeah.

1060
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,320
I did a whole little short play
about Rooster and and the four

1061
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,080
different the four different
personalities of Vietnam veteran

1062
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,440
why that song was playing
because if you look into that

1063
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,520
song you can pull out four
different angles of of how you

1064
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,280
can look at that and it and
yeah, it was cool.

1065
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,280
I got an A in that presentation.
So there's that.

1066
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,600
What about you, my friend?
All right.

1067
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,720
So.
Mine are going to throw you for

1068
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:40,600
a loop because number #5, for
me, I I won't go in anywhere.

1069
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,440
There's no order.
But I would not be a guitar

1070
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,800
player if it wasn't for the guy
that taught me to play guitar.

1071
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,280
So kudos to Bob Moulton, who saw
something in me that I didn't

1072
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,920
see in myself.
And I'm going to give him credit

1073
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,480
because I wanted to quit so many
times because I never thought

1074
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
that I was going to be good.
And I don't know what he saw in

1075
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,320
me.
And I I guess I've never really

1076
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,160
even talked to him.
I probably should hit him up and

1077
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,600
say, hey, what was it?
You know, he might not even

1078
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,960
remember.
But to have somebody believe in

1079
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920
me when it when I didn't even
believe in myself was amazing.

1080
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,640
So I kept pedaling my bike
across town and taking lessons.

1081
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,080
So thank you to him.
I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be

1082
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,640
half the guitar player I am
today.

1083
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,160
So #2 would be the same reason
when I moved to Phoenix, I

1084
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,080
wanted to learn how to play the
Blues.

1085
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
I thought I knew how to play the
Blues and this will be a name

1086
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,760
you'll recognize.
I started going to the Blue Note

1087
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,920
in Scottsdale and seeing a guy
named Chuck Hall who had just

1088
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,960
recently split from the brick
wall.

1089
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,880
Used to be Chuck Hall in the
brick wall.

1090
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,000
But when I started seeing him,
he was his solo band as a three

1091
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,880
piece and I went up one night.
I was only 19 when I started

1092
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,520
going there.
We'll tell these stories later,

1093
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,000
but I walked up to him all
nervous and I was like, dude, I

1094
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,320
really want to learn how to play
the Blues and you're fucking

1095
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,800
amazing.
I want to take lessons.

1096
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,840
So I'm single handedly
responsible for him teaching

1097
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,640
guitar again at that moment in
time because he wasn't taking

1098
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,800
students and I just pestered him
week after week, so.

1099
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,120
My next one would.
Be Yeah, I love.

1100
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Playing the Blues?
So my next one would be Jimmy

1101
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,080
Page, just for the simple fact
that still now to this day, I

1102
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,600
listen to Led Zeppelin and I
hear things that even though

1103
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,600
I've heard every song at least
1000 times, I still hear new

1104
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,360
things.
So.

1105
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,360
Next would be Eddie Van.
Halen, for sure.

1106
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,800
He redefined.
I would say Jimmy Page and Jimi

1107
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Hendrix are tied.
I can't leave Hendrix off this

1108
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,360
list, but all three of those are
like the Trinity of rock'n'roll,

1109
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Hendrix Van Halen and Jimi Page.
Yeah.

1110
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,560
So and then my number one
influence which Which You know.

1111
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,720
Would be you, because without
you there would have been.

1112
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,440
No, I see that's and and that's
the.

1113
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,680
Same because we got to live our.
Dream because of each other.

1114
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,120
And that's the thing, I think,
the beautiful.

1115
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,760
Thing Yeah, yeah I was yeah.
But my sentiments exactly we

1116
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,360
were able to do what we did
because we both.

1117
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,560
It's that unique thing.
The only the only thing I've

1118
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,360
ever the only, the only band.
And I'm not comparing us to this

1119
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,640
band because they were worldwide
famous, but in excess.

1120
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,040
If you watch the in excess
story, the way Michael Hutchins

1121
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,840
was with, with the rhythm
section of the band, which is

1122
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,600
everybody but him, they would
give him a song and he would go

1123
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,080
through his notes and he'd find
a melody and it would fit.

1124
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,720
I didn't know there was no real
history about bands back then.

1125
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,520
We were together.
But when I saw that story of

1126
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,600
Michael Hutchins, you know,
because Dude was a great

1127
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,320
showmanship, great
singer-songwriter.

1128
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,240
But when I saw that scene in the
movie, like, holy shit, that's

1129
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,480
exactly how Mike and I used to
do what we do.

1130
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,480
He would have a riff and I would
have, I'd have my journal and

1131
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,640
then this would fit or that
would fit or I'd come into

1132
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,360
practice.
He'd be jamming on something and

1133
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,280
I'd, I'd just, something would
just roll off my tongue, you

1134
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,280
know, or pen, whatever.
Yeah, you used to show.

1135
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,200
We just build.
Songs like that.

1136
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,360
And yeah, Chris used to show up
with like.

1137
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Folders full of you know, this
is before cell phones and iPads,

1138
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,320
kids.
So he would show up with folders

1139
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,840
and notebooks full of song
ideas, poems, written word,

1140
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,040
idea.
I mean, these were volumes of

1141
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,720
shit.
This wasn't like he showed up

1142
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,480
with a legal pad and started
writing.

1143
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,280
You know, this guy showed up
with like a suitcase full of

1144
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,280
shit the first time we came to.
Practice.

1145
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,440
He's like, yeah, I wrote a book
and I wrote a couple.

1146
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,000
I had the word things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1147
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,920
I still have.
I still have.

1148
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,000
I have one copy of Waco to my
mind left.

1149
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
I got to find it.
I I I tried to get my buddy

1150
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,440
Neanderthal.
He has a a dat.

1151
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280
So I gave him the data.
I got the master and it was it

1152
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,440
was so just fucking cluster
fucked.

1153
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,560
He couldn't pull anything out of
it, but I still have.

1154
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,000
I still have the cassette tape 1
cassette tape left.

1155
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,840
Maybe two that if somehow I
could figure out how to get that

1156
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,560
downloaded digitally, I think
that would be something fucking

1157
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,480
bad ass to throw up on on iTunes
and just see where it went, you

1158
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,840
know?
Welcome to my mind.

1159
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,600
It was fucking.
I love that it captured a it

1160
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,200
captured a really cool part in
my life when my creative side

1161
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,480
was just off the charts.
So what's the one that you and I

1162
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,680
did?
Together in my apartment, it was

1163
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,200
good.
We did one in my 8 track.

1164
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,200
Studio.
When I first put that studio in,

1165
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,080
I think that's what it was.
That's why that sounds really.

1166
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,000
It was Part 2 of that.
Maybe.

1167
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Either that or part, either that

1168
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,240
or Part 2 of it.
I've got to find it.

1169
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,280
I got to find it and I'll get
it.

1170
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,600
I'll get it.
I got to figure out how to.

1171
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,280
I I know you can.
Digitally.

1172
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,960
You can send shit away to Kodak.
Now they'll digitally download

1173
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,680
it into an audio file, you know.
So let me try that just to see.

1174
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,440
My fear is if they lose it
because I'm fucked.

1175
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Yeah.
So I finally.

1176
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:05,160
Found a place that it's 3:30.
Oh, right on.

1177
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,760
So let me know what?
It comes out of that.

1178
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,480
All right, I know you got to go,
bro.

1179
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320
So we will let you go.
I got to go.

1180
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,240
I got to go.
I hate.

1181
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Cutting this one off, this was a
good conversation.

1182
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,840
It's all good, right?
We're going to do.

1183
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,840
Another one next week.
Thank you for joining us.

1184
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,440
He's right.
Yeah.

1185
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,960
He's, he's Mike.
I'm Chris.

1186
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,040
This is the Chris and Mike Show.
Facebook, Instagram and soon to

1187
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,760
be YouTube.
Soon to be YouTube.

1188
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Be safe.
Be safe.

1189
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,920
Be kind to each other, No?
One's alone if you need help.

1190
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,360
Thanks for tuning.
Need help?

1191
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,640
Reach out.
You're never alone in any battle

1192
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,120
that you have.
Never alone.

1193
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,800
True story.
Great day my friend.

1194
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:53,160
Always a place.
The

1195
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:22,840
None.