#148 - Michael Castillo - "Michael Castillo Day"

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There you go.
What's up, boys and girls?

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Welcome to Chris Mike Show.
It's the Michael Castillo.

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Day.
We're going to dump this going

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Michael Castillo Day.
Yeah, October 28th.

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It's like tight end day on
Sundays of this past Sunday for

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the NFL, right?
October 20th, Michael Castillo

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Day.
Damn straight man.

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We got to bleed a little longer.
I'm going to find him.

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Chill.
The hands don't make it jump.

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Quite clear.
Yeah.

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What's up, boys and girls?
It's Chris and Mike.

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Show this.
This.

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He's Mike.
I'm Chris.

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This is Michael Castillo.
And we are live now on the

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Twitch and the YouTube and Mike.
And I look for you chiming in on

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the chat this time like.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So if you don't know who Michael
Castillo is, you're going to

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find out on you.
But he legit has been falling

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with like, what seems like
forever.

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He tunes in quite frequently on
our live show, so we're super

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excited to finally have him on
the.

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Show always very positive, which
I totally appreciate.

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Which we love words of.
Encouragement and yeah, no,

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it's, it's awesome.
It's welcomed and you were

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there, like Chris said,
literally you're the first

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frequent follower from the get
go.

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So welcome.
It's super cool to have you on

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here.
I'm excited to be here, guys.

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Now here's here's a question
around the gate.

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Why?
Why do you love us?

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Why do you love us so much?
Well, I actually I'll, I'll tell

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you why.
OK, cool.

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Multiple reasons, really.
OK, First of all, your

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background, I've I've, I've,
I've fade to myself a novice

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musician and for a time I really
wanted to kind of pursue that,

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but it never really went
anywhere.

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And then on top of that, the
fact that you guys have talked

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about recovery, which is very
near and dear to me.

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I'm I I happen to be in
recovery.

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Right on good jobs, How long?
Well, if I don't drink before

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January 1st, 5 years.
Oh.

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You're not going to drink, man.
No drinking allowed.

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Got a good head start?
Yes, Sir.

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Yes, Sir.
That's awesome, man.

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Yeah, I'm very excited, very
excited.

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So you definitely jive with us
on the music and the recovery

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part for sure.
Cool.

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Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
IA lot of the previous guests

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I've really enjoyed there was
I'm terrible with names.

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Unfortunately, there was.
A gentleman in particular who

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was it was also from the South.
I could tell because I

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recognized the accident right
away, being that I too am also

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from the South.
But he was he, he was a country

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fella.
I think he was living in the

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mountains and he Dwayne.
Played a song for you.

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Dwayne.
Dwayne.

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Parker Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, my truck's on crack.

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Yeah, yeah, it was hilarious.
I loved it.

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Right.
He was awesome, dude.

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He was.
He was.

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Sitting in the He was sitting in
the middle of nowhere today,

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literally out in Alabama,
somewhere town I'd never heard

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of, just him and his guitar and
got his phone set up and he's

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live streaming on Facebook while
I was on a break at work.

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Oh wow, like you going?
I got AI, got a buddy of mine

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who I used to jam with
virtually.

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Who?
Who does that as well?

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Cool.
So from from music wise, because

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that's how you kind of find your
connection with us.

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What do what do you play?
What instrument do you sing?

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Do you guitar, Drums.
Well, I've always faced myself,

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a singer who plays guitar.
It's definitely not the other

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way around.
I've always been a rhythm

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player, bit of a songwriter and
part of time, like I said, you

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know, it's I kind of had an
inflated ego after playing a

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couple of gigs, had a lot of fun
doing that.

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And after a while I was just
like, well, you know, I guess I,

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I need to kind of slow down and
start doing grown up stuff and.

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I know this sucks.
Right, pay the bills.

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Now you don't have, you don't
have an inflated ego, because to

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be a musician, to stand up on
stage, regardless if it's one

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person or or 10,000, you have to
have some type of ego.

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You just have to.
You can't because if you don't,

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if you don't, you'll have what
happened to the original lead

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singer that Mike had.
He won't go on stage, stage.

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He's he's afraid.
It's stage fight.

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So you have to have something in
you to willingly step out and be

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in front of, you know, like I
said, one to 10,000 people

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because regardless, it's
actually more nerve wracking

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with, you know, 10-15 people
than it is with.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Like, I used to play parties a

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lot.
You know, I get invited to play

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at parties and actually book
gigs for private parties.

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And, you know, the numbers would
range from like, you know, 20-30

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to 5060.
I think the biggest party I

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played was like 80 people.
But the biggest gig I ever did

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was back in 2016.
It was called the Creek Music

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Revival.
I was with a band called MO and

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the Rusty Tricycle.
There's there's a bit of a story

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behind that name.
Well, yeah, I actually like it.

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I do too.
It's, it's, it's, it's like 13

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naked midgets you can't forget.
That was coming back.

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It's MO and the rusty tricycle.
Well, what was funny was is we

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were kind of me and the guys
were kind of rolling around some

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names and I come up with I
thought were really good names

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and they were like, Nah, Nah, we
don't know.

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No, it's it's not favorable.
They they won't like that.

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I'm like, well, I don't care.
I'm not doing it for them.

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Nice brights.
You know, I want something

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unique to us.
Yes.

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So yeah, unfortunately a couple
of names I can't really think of

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right off the top of my head,
but I know later on it's going

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to come to me.
Yeah, because I'm just, you

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know, getting on up there, as
you can see.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah?

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Well, how old are you?
48 as of Saturday.

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OK 55505252 OK, I had a recent
recent recent.

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So we're all Gen.
Xers.

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Yeah, well, hell.
Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, yeah.
We're that generation that

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actually knows what hard work is
and knows what we expect is and

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know that you don't park in
handicapped spaces and that you

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don't fucking move barricades
when it says closed Rd. because

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you follow the rules on certain
levels of society you don't

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make.
One of people who can't defend

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themselves.
Right, right.

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You know, yeah.
OK, so I I just thought of it.

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Alright, so the name that we
were, I was trying to pitch it's

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it's kind of funny to me.
It kind of makes you chuckle,

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but it was the fat rabbit beat
down.

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See, but that's that's dude #1
imagery for that would be

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fantastic.
Right.

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See, there it goes, right?
Away, yeah, image imagery

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because imaging every image is
everything when it comes to

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music I mean.
We had ideas for.

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T-shirts.
Oh yeah, I bet, I bet.

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Like, there's an image of this,
like, cartoon rabbit who's like,

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got a black eye and missing
tooth and right on with a beer

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in his hand.
You know, I thought that that

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was very typical and it would
win over the crowd.

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But unfortunately my bandmates
were like, yeah, that's no, we

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can't.
Eat if your bandmates were

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wrong, man.
I know I agree.

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Imagine if we would have stuck
with Fat Rabbit beat down.

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We'd probably still be together.
OK, so it was.

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So tell me again what the rabbit
was.

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A fat rabbit?
Create a fat rabbit with a black

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eye.
Yeah, fat rabbit with a black

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eye.
Like a missing tooth and then,

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you know, very stereotypical
redneckish look like a wife

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beater with some holes in it,
cigarette hanging out of his

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mouth.
And like Chris is.

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Multitasking.
Oh yeah, Dave, I'm.

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Going to I'm making a video of
what I'm telling.

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You right, I knew this was
coming.

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Hanging out of his mouth.
What kind of guitar do you

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prefer, Mike?
Oh, that's a good one.

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Yeah, well, initially I liked.
I was a huge Fender fan, OK, You

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know, I love Stratocasters just
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That was the look that drew me
to want to play the guitar.

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That look.
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

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I mean, Stevie Ray Vaughan was
like my hero.

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Oh, we can get along,
absolutely.

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Hero.
That is 1 guitar tone that I

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could listen to for the rest of
my life.

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You couldn't torture me with
that.

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It would only.
I know I'm right there with you.

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There's so many songs that I
just absolutely love that, and I

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love his vocal style too.
And he hated it.

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He did.
That's he did.

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He did not like singing.
Can you imagine anybody else

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singing those songs?
No.

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Because the emotion pours out of
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He hated his voice.
I find that so sad.

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Yeah, he there was an interview
I watched with him where he was

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actually talking about how much
he hated singing and how that

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like he he described it as
hamburger throat.

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And after doing some shows, I'm
like, yeah, I can relate to

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that.
Yeah, definitely.

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I'm sure Chris can too.
OK, What's not to interrupt?

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What is?
I don't know how I want to do

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this.
I want your phone number, Mike.

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I'll give you my number.
I'll give you.

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I'll give you my number.
I'll give you my number.

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You text me because my numbers
aren't on the page.

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Yeah, don't give his number out.
OK, you're ready.

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Yeah, I want you to text me
because I'm going to send you

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the picture.
OK well I'm I'm on my phone now

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so I have to do it like
afterwards but.

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OK, let.
Me see, but I I can't.

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Wait to see the picture.
I sent it to you.

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I sent it to you, Mike.
There's four of them.

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I don't know if you can see it.
There's four of them.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it.
I love it.

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So you can tell me which one you
like and then I'll have it

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downloaded and send it to you
after the show.

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OK, well.
I'm hold on, I can see.

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Two, you guys keep talking, we
can do this.

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OK, if you.
Move it, move it over just a

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hair to your right.
I think it would be your right

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or no.
OK, your left then.

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OK.
Yeah, I'm still not seeing it.

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OK.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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I'll put it on my computer and
then I'll share the screen.

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OK, Magic moments.
Yeah, absolutely.

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I love the fact.
Well, I mean, obviously I'm a

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big techno buff.
Right on, hence being the

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author.
But yeah.

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Yeah, cuz I Yeah.
So author of what Buddy?

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OK, so it's my first book.
It's called The Cyber Dance.

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It is a cyberpunk, science
fiction, murder mystery, wild

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ride kind of thing.
Yes.

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Yeah, and it's the first of a
series that I plan on working

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on.
I'm actually working on the

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second installment now.
And if all goes according to

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plan, I could publish as early
as spring next year.

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We're done.
That's awesome.

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So we're going to make it a
point.

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We're going to make it a point
now to remind you that when you

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are at the point of publishing
this, you're going to come on

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back on the show prior.
To.

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That when you have a publication
date, I'll put this on YouTube,

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I'll put, I'll put this on our
Facebook page.

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So then we can, we can, we can
pimp you out to the world.

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Sweet.
Because you know, you watch this

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enough, you know, that's what we
do.

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We mean Mike and I are Mike and
I, but we like having folks on

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like you that have a life,
really cool life resume and have

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things happening in your in your
world.

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So it's on on Facebook.
You're Michael R Castillo,

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right?
Yeah, now that's that's my

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author page.
So yes, yeah.

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That's what I got, yeah.
Here is the logo for.

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Oh, I love it.
I love it.

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There you go.
OK.

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So the one the one I really like
is like for me, it's the the one

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that's in the bottom right hand
corner.

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I think that one's my favorite.
Me too.

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Yeah.
Man, the upper left hand corner,

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well, they're all bad.
The.

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Upper left.
Headquarters like a It's a.

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Really, I finally figured out
how to share it.

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Nice job, Mike.
Good job.

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Yeah, that looks amazing.
So, so that's a new, that's a

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new app that that that medics
created called Meta AI.

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So so real simple.
I you heard me type in what I

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typed, I said just make me an
create an image of a fat rabbit

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with a black eye dangling
cigarette playing guitar in a

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redneck type outfit.
That's it man.

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That bottom right corner is
tight.

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It is well, well I so the things
that like the top left and the

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bottom right that they have in
corner is or have in common is

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the overalls.
Which?

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Definitely captures that
atmosphere.

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Yeah, so cool.
Yeah.

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I love it.
It's amazing, right?

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It's just it mind boggling what
it does man.

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Well, when I was writing the
book, I had to do a lot of

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research into AI.
Yeah.

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Oh, right on.
Because one of the characters is

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in fact an ASI, an artificial
super intelligence.

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That's cool and.
You're speaking my language

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again.
Dude, this, this book, I'm

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telling you, it's like, well,
it's, it's definitely sci-fi.

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Like if you like Blade Runner.
Oh damn.

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Right, with maybe a, a slight
mix of the matrix and maybe,

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let's see, maybe a hint of
Terminator sorta the there's,

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there's this, this book's for
you.

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There's there's actually.
Part and I'll be buying it for

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sure.
You just talked me into it.

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Oh, well, thank you.
Thank you.

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Very much so when it when you
start developing the movie we

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want.
To turn your volume up if you're

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going to lean back there.
I'm sorry if when you start

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developing the movie, Mike and I
want to do the soundtrack.

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OK.
You can help because you're a

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musician too.
So we can, Yeah, we can be the

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We can be the Fat Rabbit band.
Yeah.

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And turn the soundtrack.
Yeah, I just downloaded about

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27,000 instruments into this
computer with the new studio,

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Yeah.
Oh no shit.

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Yeah, it came with this massive
pack of drums and sense and Oh

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yeah, we can do some crazy
stuff.

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Now that is insane.
Yeah, 179 bucks a year.

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Now you can have like 20,000
instruments in your MacBook Pro

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where you know what, even 20
years ago that would have cost

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you millions of dollars, right?
Because you would have had to

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have a studio, you would have
had to buy a big board, you

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would have had to buy all the
out Ford gear, you would had to

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actually build the studio
itself, which is incredibly

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expensive.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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I was blown away.
Walls and yeah, yeah.

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So, so I'm gonna, I don't know,
this is good.

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This is gonna put you on a spot.
So you look to me like somebody

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that would kind of kind of sound
a little bit raspy, bluesy when

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you say.
Yes, yes.

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That's, yeah, that's exactly it,
yeah.

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So you've heard me sing because
Freeman's our song.

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One of our songs, yeah.
Yeah.

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So.
So we'll have a nice dynamic

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when we build your soundtrack.
That's pretty cool.

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That was.
Fun.

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I, I tell you what, I'll throw
out a recommendation for you

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because it's probably the only,
the only song I'm really proud

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of.
It's also the only video that I

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that I recorded where I was
sober.

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I mean like stone cold sober.
Is it on the name of the song?

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Is it on YouTube?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's on my channel on YouTube,
but it's called Meant to Be.

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I I recorded that in the in my
buddy's patio is my best friend

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out Waycross GA.
OK, nice.

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That sounds like an out of the
way place.

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Well, yeah, but as the name
implies, it's Waycross.

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Georgia Waycross, GA And there
it is right there.

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Yeah, that's it.
That's it.

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They'll probably they'll
probably shut us down because

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YouTube doesn't like us playing
music.

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The.
Fucks, I got you.

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Well, he'll be.
Fine.

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Did you see that?
As I said that, Michael looked

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at me through the video.
Did that on purpose.

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You steal my shit, blow that
screen up.

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I'm trying to.
I like your voice, man.

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Me too.
I wrote that 20 years ago.

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Dude, that's a great melody.
Yeah.

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Thank you.
It's actually in the key of E

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minor, but it's easier to play K
foot on the second fret.

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I can hear all kinds of
atmospheric guitars behind that.

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I can, I can hear backing vocals
on that.

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That's beautiful, yeah.
Thank you.

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I think with this talking over,
YouTube may not shut us down.

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That's why I'm not.
That's why I'm not being quiet.

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I'm still listening to it.
It's his music.

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All he's know we would say it's
OK, OK, OK.

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They'll send him something
first, OK?

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I think about what I could tell
you.

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I think that was eight years ago
actually, when I did that video

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seven or eight years ago.
Name hat too.

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Right, right on.
Yeah.

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Big drums.
Yeah.

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Yeah, Big drums, Yeah.
I was very proud of this song,

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very proud.
You should be.

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It's a good song, man.
Thank you, I'm a proud.

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You scream very much.
That takes a lot, Mike.

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Your screen went black, Michael.
Yeah, we can't see it for some

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reason.
There you are.

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OK.
All right.

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Welcome back to the World Cup.
Some some message came up.

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Sorry.
Oh yeah.

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It's.
OK.

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Oh, that's why.
That's why Lemoyne's kept going

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doing that.
Oh yeah, OK.

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We kept getting messages.
Yeah.

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Dude I'm super impressed man.
Thank you.

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Thank you very much.
I love this finger picking part.

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That's that was my my favorite
thing about it.

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Your accents are right on
big drums.

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I actually I played this at a a
a Bar and Grill called LL Creek

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in Waycross, GA, downtown
Waycross.

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And there were a couple other
musicians there who were hanging

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out and performing and they
decided to back me on that song.

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So there was a little lead
action.

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It was nice.
I'll tell you how you know.

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It's a great song, Mike.
How's this?

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You don't need any of the shit
that Chris and I are talking

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about.
It would just make it cooler,

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right?
Yeah, A great song can be played

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just like this, right?
It doesn't need anything else.

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All that other stuff is just
icing on the cake, you know?

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Yeah, that means a lot.
I mean, I like I really.

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Mean it.
I don't hand that out

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lightheartedly because I love
music as much as the rest of us.

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That's been my whole life.
So that's a great song.

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I would listen to that over and
over again.

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It was it it, It came to me one
night.

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I was dating this girl who ended
up being my second wife and I

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wrote it to impress her.
And did it.

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Yeah, we ended up getting
married.

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I mean, 10 years later we
divorced, but you know,

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whatever.
Yeah, I, I, I've written quite a

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few songs for Nikki, but I
already she was already married

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to me, so she's and stuff.
Yeah, OK.

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You know, like fun fact, I
actually performed this song at

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our wedding.
Oh, right on.

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Always me man, if I be baby I
know.

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Everything would be our man and
I to who wants.

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You to.
Be you probably noticed the

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lights on the umbrella there.
That was that was my buddy's

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idea.
That's perfect, man.

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Man, Mikey's killing it.
I mean that man.

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I'm super impressed.
Thank you.

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Thank you very much.
I love hearing new music.

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That blows me away.
You just did it that that.

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Means a lot, especially coming
from you guys, that really means

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a lot.
It always means that much.

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Coming from another musician, It
doesn't.

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You don't have to watch this.
Video I was drunk, yeah.

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I was drunk as shit in that one.
I was trying to catch it before

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it started.
Yeah, there's a lot of

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unfortunately there's a lot of
videos of me rather snuck or

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but.
That one, we're glad there

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wasn't social media when we were
in Nemesis.

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So yeah, we don't.
Those stories stay in the past.

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Yeah, well, I was, I was fairly
like recently divorced when I

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started to like get back out
there music wise because I mean,

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when we met, I was already
playing and and doing stuff.

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My my ex-wife and and I hung it
up when we got together.

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And then when we split up, I was
just like, well, I'm going to go

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with what I know.
And I went back to music and

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kind of dove head first in and I
started, you know, doing gigs

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and and playing parties and I
played that music festival and

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was it was a wild time.
That's one thing I've avoided

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for that reason alone is just
going out and playing live

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again.
I like sitting here and being

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able to create and do my own
thing and I'm getting way more

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confident and I had it.
So we'll definitely be releasing

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some stuff here way sooner than
what we had talked about two

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years ago.
The cool thing about you being

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on here today, Mikey, is 3 days
ago.

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We started this two years ago,
which is a crazy weird thing to

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oh.
Yeah, there it is.

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Say time wise but.
Yeah, that's awesome.

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So we're we're.
So if it's so 3 days from now is

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our.
Is no.

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Three days ago we started two
years ago.

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October 25th was the first time
we actually released an episode.

427
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,680
Oh wow, so you guys did it on my
birthday.

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00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,240
That's cool.
Happy birthday.

429
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520
Well, thanks.
Geez, so you got your birthday

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00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,080
on October 25th and now October
28th is Mikey Castillo Day.

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00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,840
Not way.
I'm loving it.

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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,120
I mean, I'm loving it.
You could just you just.

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That's it.
I meant walk away.

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00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,040
Seinfeld.
Bye.

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00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,480
See you.
Yeah.

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00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Mic drop.
George Costanza, my ladder

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complete.
So fun fact.

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00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,120
I love this whole that visual
dude you designed.

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00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,240
It.
Yeah, yeah.

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00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,560
I mean, it was AI assisted, but
sure.

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00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Yeah, I designed it.
Kind of like the fat rabbit.

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00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,720
I love it.
Yes, yeah.

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00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480
So, so we had so so, so you
probably were, you probably were

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on the OR or watching the show
or, or watched it with Dennis

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Campbell, the guy that's been
doing AI since he was 20.

446
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,160
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So how deep down the rabbit hole

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have you gone?
Because he's 15 years into what?

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00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,360
What's what's?
Your.

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00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,720
What's your?
Length of time, All right, So 15

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years.
It definitely kind of blows me

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out of the water because I
didn't start really digging deep

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until I started to get the idea
for the book.

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And the idea for the book came
to me.

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It was like a couple weeks
before Christmas last year.

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I was sitting on the couch
taking care of my nephew and I

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just thought I, I had this wild,
insane idea that's

457
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040
unfortunately, it's not really
original, but right.

458
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,920
It just, I, I, I thought, man,
this will be a cool story.

459
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,280
And, and the idea was what would
I do if my consciousness were

460
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840
uploaded into cyberspace?
What would I do?

461
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,640
How would I feel?
What you know, what would my

462
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,120
experiences be like?
What would I see, You know, And

463
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000
the story sort of snowballed
from there.

464
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960
OK.
And then it turned into a murder

465
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,920
mystery.
And like one of the characters

466
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,440
has DID dissociative identity
disorder.

467
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,680
That's multiple personality
disorder.

468
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,680
Oh, right on.
She's a lot of fun.

469
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800
OK, absolutely don't give don't
give away too many of your

470
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,320
carrots because we want people
to buy the book.

471
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,600
But definitely.
Definitely.

472
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Yeah, yeah.
Definitely dangle, dangle some

473
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,200
stuff.
So it it, it's intriguing

474
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,920
because I like that.
I like the character.

475
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,880
That's a cool character.
So, so the whole premise, not

476
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920
the interruption, but the whole
premise is this is if if you're

477
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,640
if your entire basically get
uploaded into, into into

478
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,000
cyberspace.
Well, that's how it started.

479
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,240
But the story revolves around
the the main protan.

480
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,240
The main protagonist is a guy
named Rains Thomas Michael Rains

481
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
and.
Good name by the way it.

482
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Is that's awesome.
I love it.

483
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720
Good serial killer name.
Yeah, yeah, I thought so.

484
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Too I did I.
Thought so too.

485
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:39,320
You know, it's funny because
like he, like his history

486
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:47,040
revolves around being in like a,
a Black Ops type thing where

487
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,520
they were called the shadow
division.

488
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,360
That's that's mentioned in the
book.

489
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,080
But I'm not going to give too
much away.

490
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,400
But basically the book starts
off where his consciousness is

491
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,760
uploaded into cyberspace.
OK.

492
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,440
And then shit just hits the fan
from there.

493
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,640
That's I can imagine man, cuz
this just from that concept

494
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,760
alone I'm, I'm, I'm thinking
like, oh, now the now all the

495
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360
dreams can become reality cuz
it's cyberspace.

496
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,400
Yeah, yeah.
And because and because cyber AI

497
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,960
doesn't understand fact from
fiction yet, right, It's not it

498
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760
doesn't have that method yet as
we totally.

499
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Lends itself to the movie world.
Right, right.

500
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,680
As as Dennis, as Dennis talked
about, the more we feed AI, the

501
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,560
more advanced it's going to get,
which, yeah, in the short time

502
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,680
we had Dennis on the show to
where we're at now, the leaps

503
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,320
and bounds that some of the apps
that I use are are freaking mind

504
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,560
bolling.
Because my big thing, like

505
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160
whenever I do some of my videos,
I always sign off with until

506
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,240
next time.
See you.

507
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,960
Well, it doesn't it doesn't pick
up that inflection.

508
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,000
So but the more you feed the
machine, the closer it's going

509
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,240
to get to eventually in 10 years
when I do that, it'll pick it up

510
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,160
verbatim.
And there's some stuff I've sent

511
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Mike he and afterwards I'm going
to do that with AI.

512
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320
He's like, what?
Because it's just.

513
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440
That's the only reason I knew
the second time I listened to it

514
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,520
is he does have that tagline and
it doesn't pick up that high

515
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,440
pitched inflection in his voice
ever.

516
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Oh, wow.
So if you know, if you didn't

517
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
know Chris, you wouldn't know
that it was AI.

518
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400
But knowing him as long as I
have, when I listened to it the

519
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,200
second time, it creeped me the
fuck out because I was like, OK,

520
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,720
now there's no emotion that
that's like robot Chris, right?

521
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's cool, man.

522
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,120
Dennis basically said, you know,
the more like he said, the more

523
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520
we feed it, the smarter it gets.
And everybody keeps saying, you

524
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560
know, it's going to take all
these jobs.

525
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Yeah, it's going to take a lot
of jobs.

526
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
But he basically had the
positive spin on it.

527
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640
It's going to create other jobs.
It will it.

528
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Will, you know, there's a lot of
opportunities, a lot of doors

529
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,000
that will open and a lot of
people kind of get hung up on

530
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,360
the doors that'll close and they
just sort of don't allow

531
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400
themselves to see the, the other
possibilities, the other side,

532
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720
which is that there will be
opportunities that will open.

533
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
You know, there will be new
things available.

534
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,840
I, I just, I, I'm, I'm very
excited about it, obviously

535
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440
being an inspiration to, to my
story.

536
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Now, Rain's just getting back to
that briefly.

537
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Yeah, yeah.
He's not what is referred to as

538
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,480
the ASI.
He's not the artificial super

539
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,120
intelligence.
And I can I can mention that

540
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,480
character Elysian he.
Yeah, another name for heaven

541
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,880
for those of you who don't.
Know.

542
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
It's a Greek.

543
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,200
If I remember correctly, it's a
reference to the Elysian Fields,

544
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,440
where I.
Was gonna go.

545
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Heroes die and that's where they
go.

546
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440
Basically similar to Valhalla
for Vikings.

547
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Yeah, correct.
So that's where I got the name

548
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,480
from and but Elysian is anything
but good.

549
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Right.
Oh, your character, right.

550
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Yes, OK, cool.
That's cool.

551
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,000
So it's a so it's a OK, I like
that.

552
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280
I likethat.com right there.
And I can I can give that away

553
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,040
because that it it says it on
the back of the book the the

554
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,000
description.
Oh, cool, right now.

555
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,280
But yeah, I mean, there's like a
hacker collective called Chaos

556
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Nation that gets involved in
this.

557
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,840
And then there's the the chick
with DID.

558
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Her name's Clara, who has an
alternate personality named

559
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Angel.
There you go.

560
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,240
I'm not going to give too much
away there.

561
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
But I have one plain name
character, Christos.

562
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,880
He's dissing you for Clara.
I'm like, Jesus, you got to have

563
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440
one real name in there.
Otherwise it gets like all this

564
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
guy was just trying to go too
far outside the box, right?

565
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320
He thinks he's so smart.
Like you got to have a Clara, OK

566
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
or a Karen in there somewhere.
I'll give you that.

567
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,240
I'll give you that.
Please tell me that Clara is

568
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,360
kind of like the person who gets
everybody else in trouble.

569
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,200
No.
Oh God, Dang it.

570
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,960
No, Clara is actually very
mousy.

571
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,680
She's she's petite, not social
at all.

572
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Very reserved.
OK, maybe that's what I was

573
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
picturing, but.
Yeah, she's socially awkward.

574
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Yeah, OK.
She's she's extremely socially

575
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,040
awkward.
However, her.

576
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Alternate.
Yeah, her alternate Angel.

577
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,960
I'm not going to say she's the
opposite, but she's like cold

578
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,480
and menacing.
Nice look at us go.

579
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120
You'll be a prop.
You're like, just like Nikki.

580
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,760
Nikki and I finished sentences
and shit.

581
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
It's crazy.
Yeah, well, we've done this like

582
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120
what, 100 and 49150?
Times and we've known each other

583
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,400
for 30 years time I've known my
wife.

584
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,680
So there you go.
Oh wow.

585
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Yeah, yeah.
That's a tub.

586
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,840
I love this whole concept, dude.
When did you say this book's

587
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,240
coming out?
Now the cyberdance is already

588
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,240
out.
Well, I gotta have this in my

589
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,840
life then.
Yeah, yeah.

590
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,720
It's where do people get it?
It's on Amazon.

591
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200
It's also available on Audible
and on iTunes.

592
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,320
I think I have access to
Audible.

593
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,080
So on the show and the person
who I got narrating is actually

594
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,320
a very well, I'd say a somewhat
well known social media content

595
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,480
creator.
OK.

596
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,680
She also does narration, so it
was an experience working with

597
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,080
her.
That's really cool that you got.

598
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,520
I just, I guess I just realized
what you said.

599
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880
That's really cool that you have
it narrated on Audible.

600
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,960
That's awesome.
Yeah, Yeah, I can say that.

601
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Well, originally I had toyed
around with doing the narration

602
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,240
myself, but she offered her
services and I thought, OK,

603
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,480
well, you know, I've listened to
what you can do.

604
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Sure, and she did an amazing
job, I think.

605
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Cool the fact.
You're Cyberdance.

606
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Is all that matters because
you're the one that wrote the

607
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,160
book, so that's awesome that
you're happy with the outcome.

608
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,800
I was, I was, I was quite
pleased.

609
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,080
She she did a very good job.
Yeah, The Cyberdance The Reigns

610
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Chronicles, Book 1.
Yes.

611
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,440
Yeah, I gotta have this in my
life.

612
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,040
I love this concept.
So did you self publish and?

613
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,159
Give it away.
Did you self publish or did

614
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,280
somebody publish it?
No, I self published.

615
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080
OK, cool.
So it was, you know, it's my

616
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,960
first book and it was a very
steep learning curve.

617
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,560
I learned a lot.
So go moving forward with the

618
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,000
second book.
I mean, I, I'll be honest, I, I,

619
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,760
I made some mistakes.
Well, who doesn't?

620
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,560
Along the way, and I will be.
I did.

621
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,480
I did do it.
So what I've learned through my

622
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,600
experiences with publishing this
first one only makes me going

623
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,360
into the second one better
informed and can handle it a

624
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960
whole lot better.
Absolutely.

625
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Gotcha.
Yep.

626
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,760
Trust me when I tell you I'm
glad our first gig wasn't in

627
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160
front of 2000 people.
Oh my God.

628
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,240
Oh yeah, that would.
Be I I I would have been fine in

629
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,600
front of 2000 people, but the
previous lead singer wouldn't

630
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,040
have.
No, yeah.

631
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600
I would have, I would have
jumped off the rafters and you

632
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,640
know.
Yeah, he would have been fine

633
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,160
shit and the rest of us would
have been fine, but I had.

634
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,880
When I was when I was in my
first band, we called ourselves

635
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,720
Room 101.
There's a little little story

636
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:24,680
there too.
But anyway, I did not want to

637
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,280
sing.
I had no inclination whatsoever

638
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
to sing, didn't even think I
could sing.

639
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,160
And all I ever did was I
auditioned to be a rhythm

640
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,360
player, and that's what I was.
And then one night we were

641
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,240
jamming along and of all the
songs that bands play, just for

642
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,000
shits and giggles, we decided to
entertain ourselves and play

643
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,840
Free Bird.
You know, it's not it's not one

644
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,920
that you play for a crowd
because, you know, that's been

645
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
overdone.
But we wanted to kind of

646
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,000
experience it for ourselves and
see what our take on it was.

647
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,320
Right.
And we did it.

648
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,600
And I was just like, you know
what, let me think.

649
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,960
I'm just, you know, let's, let's
have some fun.

650
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,240
Let's have some fun here.
We're not doing this in front of

651
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:12,920
anybody.
And let's have some fun.

652
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,120
So I did, I sang the whole song
and I didn't think nothing of it

653
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,960
afterwards.
About a week later, my lead

654
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,800
guitarist gets a hold of me and
he's like, hey, Mike, listen,

655
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
can we, can we have a sit down?
And I was like, ah, shit,

656
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,800
they're they're kicking me out.
They're kicking me out.

657
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,600
I just know it.
So we, we have our sit down and

658
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,680
it was me and me and him and I
think one other, one other

659
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,920
member, I think it was a bass
player.

660
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,760
And he goes, listen, I talked
with the guys and I was like,

661
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560
I'm going to stop you there.
It's cool.

662
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Thank you for the opportunity.
I've I've enjoyed it, but I, I,

663
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,960
you say no more.
I've, I've been, I've been down

664
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,360
this road before.
I've experienced A breakup.

665
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,800
It's cool.
He's like, was it Paulo?

666
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,120
Opposite right?
Yeah, yeah.

667
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,120
He goes.
No, no, no, no.

668
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,960
You're getting it wrong.
You're jumping the gun here.

669
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,560
We want you to be the singer.
In fact, we all voted on it.

670
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600
You're our singer now.
And I was like, man.

671
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,080
Oh.
OK, I can understand why you got

672
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,760
a great voice.
Well, thank you.

673
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

674
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,360
I heard the same thing from him
standing behind me at the Candle

675
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Box concert.
I was like, that's our new

676
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,600
singer right there.
Oh yeah.

677
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,440
As long as he wants the job, you
know?

678
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,920
All it took was convincing him,
you know I there was no more on

679
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,320
twisting.
My arms so hard.

680
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,160
I heard him.
I literally heard him sing for

681
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,280
90 minutes.
Singing has always been a lot of

682
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,320
fun and it's I think it's a, a
great way to sort of get your

683
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,880
frustrations out there too, you
know, because it's, it's an

684
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,920
emotional experience for me.
It could be for happy Song, It

685
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,000
could be, you know, it could be
like slow paced or just like a

686
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
real banger.
And I get into it like I really

687
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,880
dive into it.
Well, and you've heard us talk

688
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
about our stuff enough that
that's, that's how I was too.

689
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,720
Because it's, yeah, you, you,
not the sound, cliche.

690
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,400
But when, when we played, I, I,
I, I went up there like it was

691
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,680
the last time.
I'm going to have the

692
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,000
opportunity to play in front of
people.

693
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Yeah.
And the cool thing is, is he

694
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,120
became the character of the song
of each song he was portraying.

695
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760
You know, there was, there was
almost like a visual act that

696
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,600
wasn't the same every time, but
there were little elements that

697
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,920
I came to expect.
Right.

698
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
He's going to do something of a
version of whatever here.

699
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000
You know, he's going to sit down
on the drum riser as he sings

700
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,360
this part, or he's going to,
like he said, swing from the

701
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
rafters.
When he gets to this crescendo,

702
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,720
right when the drums really
start banging or whatever, he'd

703
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,320
reach up there and just start
swinging from the rafters or

704
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,160
some crazy shit like that, you
know?

705
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,320
Yeah, there were little things
you came to.

706
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Expect.
Absolutely.

707
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,800
Him and I would meet at certain
moments during a solo or

708
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,360
something, you know?
And then we would do that.

709
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,040
We do my favorite thing, the
back lane.

710
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Yeah, where where I'd lean back,
he'd lean back and he just

711
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,320
jamming out with the cell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

712
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,080
yeah.
I have nothing to do.

713
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,200
So I'm just I'm just sitting
there rocking out with Mike and

714
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,440
then we kind of push into each
other, realize, OK, we're

715
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,640
standing up now, you know,
we're.

716
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Literally at practice one day
Mikey, and he says I have one

717
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,200
cliche rock star thing that I
always wanted to do on stage,

718
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,560
but I need your participation.
I was like, fuck, whatever you

719
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,520
want to do, I'm in, man.
Let's do it.

720
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Yeah, it was.
It was so much fun.

721
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,080
It shows the bond when you're on
stage with the band and you and

722
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,040
you and you were together as
long as we were.

723
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,240
And I, we probably, I don't know
how many times it's practice.

724
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,280
Probably at least 100 times
before we actually played our

725
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,400
first show.
And then probably another, you

726
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,040
know, 150 points started getting
a, a really good following.

727
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,840
But those moments are cool
because by the time we get to

728
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,240
that level and we're filling the
place up, we already have that

729
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,040
chemistry.
You already have that bond.

730
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,760
So really, I could look back at
Scott if I was singing something

731
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080
'cause they'd let me improv
certain parts of songs and I

732
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,920
could look at back at Scott and
just go like that.

733
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Or, you know, hands, whatever
the hand gesture I would do and

734
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,960
he would know to keep playing
that or wrap it up.

735
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,200
I do the same thing with Mike.
It didn't matter.

736
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,800
And it was cool because then the
the dynamic of what we did it.

737
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,160
It was the same, but there's
always a little bit something

738
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,080
like you said, that would would
kind of just organically happen

739
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,440
depending on what the crowd was
like, what my mood was like, if

740
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,560
how much I was into that that
particular song because of the

741
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,400
emotion or content that is that
that it, you know, was tied to

742
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,160
me with.
So that's the beautiful thing

743
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,400
about being a singer, man.
You can control the dynamic of

744
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,680
the song and you can control the
crowd to a certain extent and

745
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,200
take them on that ride like
you've heard it, talk about it.

746
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,760
We've we would play 3 songs,
boom, boom, boom before I'd even

747
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,880
say hey to the crowd.
Just like, yeah, we'd start the

748
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,160
song in your face, in your face,
in your face, and then third

749
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,680
side like.
Woo and the crazy.

750
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:54,760
Thing.
Get into it.

751
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,280
He's talking about, he's talking
about the bond.

752
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,600
You know, we just recently had
William back on and it it was

753
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,040
like talking to him for the
first time.

754
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
The next time all over again,
right?

755
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Wow.
It just there was no, there's no

756
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,480
getting to know each other
period.

757
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,480
It's almost like it's a crazy
thing about this podcast.

758
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,160
There was no getting to know
Mikey, right?

759
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
We knew Mikey.
He's chimed in a million times

760
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,400
on the podcast to say, hey, have
a great show.

761
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,240
Really loving the subject.
Here's how I tie into this.

762
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,480
You know, we kind of feel like
we know you already.

763
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,320
That's the same thing.
Man, we're going.

764
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,920
To call this episode the Michael
Castillo at the Michael Castillo

765
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Day.
Yeah, absolutely.

766
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,200
I love it on October 28th.
I mean, you know, it's giving me

767
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,560
a big head.
But like we've been talking

768
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,920
about here, man, that, and Chris
has said it best, if you've

769
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,360
never been on stage with a band
for any, and even if you've done

770
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,160
it once, you've experienced it
once, right?

771
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
But when you've experienced it
hundreds or thousands of times

772
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,240
like we have, there's a
chemistry that has to be there

773
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,720
that can never be recreated with
any other friendship or bond.

774
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,720
Yeah, it just can't because
there's magic in what happens up

775
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,960
there.
It's yeah, Tom Petty said.

776
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,480
It's really the only magic I
ever encountered on Earth.

777
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,120
It's one of the greatest quotes
he ever had.

778
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,120
I, I would agree 1000%,
absolutely 1000%.

779
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:21,920
And then once you capture it,
once you capture it, you it's

780
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,240
like, well, I because addiction
being what it is, I, I would

781
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,760
constantly chase it with every
new band.

782
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Sure, and sometimes the dynamics
wouldn't always be the same.

783
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,760
Yep, that is that is the one
thing having that addictive

784
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,560
personality is that yeah, you
just because you can't like this

785
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,360
the the moments I had with with
and and it goes to the members

786
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840
of the band, right?
Because I, I, I was in another

787
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,560
band that that was just as
successful as, as Nemesis that I

788
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,400
just kind of vaguely referred
to.

789
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,680
But the moments I had with
Nemesis on stage are better than

790
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,680
the moments they ever had with
the council because the, the

791
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,400
relationship and the chemistry
and the connection we had was so

792
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400
it was so deep rooted because it
was, it was everybody's really

793
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,200
first band.
I had a first band, the garage

794
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,920
band, you know, that was just
four of us playing in a storage

795
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
shed.
You know, it wasn't, we did.

796
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,240
We did a couple backyard parties
and a couple open bags.

797
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:22,000
But it wasn't like going to
change the world.

798
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,360
You know, where's when when he
and I met, it was just meant to

799
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,600
be.
And you just that foundation

800
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
laid at that at that show,
because at the end of the day,

801
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,760
musicians have a what?
They have a love for music.

802
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Absolutely.
Because if you don't have a love

803
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,680
for music, you're not going to
go out and try to create your

804
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,240
own music to share that love of
music to the world.

805
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Right.
So it's I agree with you what

806
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,640
I'm going with this ADHD
squirrel, squirrel, squirrel is

807
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,200
I agree with you that it's hard
once you have it, it's hard to

808
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,760
taste.
It's hard to find it again, Yes,

809
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,560
because it's not so much being
on stage, it's being on.

810
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,680
It's who you're on stage with,
Yes.

811
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,280
And the personalities that
you're with and, and like,

812
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,960
seriously weak.
And you know what?

813
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,560
Being on stage, you could fuck
up a song.

814
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,480
Nobody knows you fucked up a
song except my yeah.

815
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.

816
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,440
You know, and no one.
Would pick it up, but you could.

817
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,480
You could only.
Hear it?

818
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,840
The only time someone's going to
know is if you stop.

819
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
That was always the golden rule.
Just don't fucking stop.

820
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,040
If you stop, they're going to
know right away because they

821
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,280
know something happened.
There's no more music, right?

822
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Just keep.
Lying.

823
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Once as a mistake, twice as
jazz.

824
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,560
That was always the joke.
I meant to do that.

825
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,600
The guy that taught me to play,
that was one of his advices.

826
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,880
He says if you do something, do
it again real quick, like you

827
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,280
fucking meant to do it.
People think you meant to do it.

828
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,680
And it really applies because,
like Chris said, they're not

829
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,120
musicians.
They don't know that music's

830
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,320
coming at them.
A120140160 beats a minute,

831
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400
right?
They it's rock'n'roll.

832
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,960
They can barely keep up.
Yeah, exactly.

833
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,520
Exactly.
So you mentioned you play rhythm

834
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,760
guitar now we've you've, you've,
we've watched this.

835
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,640
So, you know, we've had
musicians on the basically,

836
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,120
rhythm guitar is the unsung
hero.

837
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,400
Damn right.
It's it's what keeps the whole

838
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,640
thing together without the
rhythm guitar and the bass and

839
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,280
the drums.
The rhythm section is what makes

840
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,520
the band.
Yeah.

841
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,680
You know, I mean, us singers
are, we're the, we're the

842
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
doorway, right?
We have to, we have to, the

843
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,160
crowd's got to dig us in order
to, to dig them.

844
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,640
And you know, and so no.
Pressure lead players floating

845
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,440
between the beats like a Dick
head.

846
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,880
You know, he's coming back on
the one every now and then, but

847
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,680
he's doing weird things in
between.

848
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,880
You're like anchoring it.
Hey, we're right here, buddy.

849
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Yeah, yeah, I love.
So how long have you?

850
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,680
How long have you actually been
playing guitar, Michael?

851
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Since 1999, so 26 years.
Right on.

852
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,680
That's cool.
Yeah, I got my first guitar.

853
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,160
It was a Squire strap.
Nice.

854
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,840
I remember I bought it at this
old music shop downtown

855
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,760
Brunswick called Clyde's
Discount Music.

856
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,720
Clyde's.
Clyde's and it was like a family

857
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,880
owned business, Clyde's.
Discount.

858
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,080
Music Chad's Discount Music in
downtown Brunswick, it's not

859
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,600
there anymore.
At least I don't think it is.

860
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,120
Sorry.
I mean, I don't live in Georgia

861
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,160
anymore.
I moved to moved from Georgia

862
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,280
four years ago.
And where do you live?

863
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,760
Now Delaware.
Delaware.

864
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,440
Wow.
What the Hell's in Delaware?

865
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,280
Took the boy out of.
Well, my sister, my sister and I

866
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,400
share a house together and my
mom is also up here.

867
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,000
My mom and my stepfather and
we're all.

868
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,800
Very close.
That's why I'm in the middle of

869
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200
a cornfield, Mikey, because this
is where my family is.

870
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,280
My sister's right next door and
my parents are a couple blocks

871
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,800
away.
So that's why I moved back here

872
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,520
to family.
Well, you know, I think by

873
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,000
nature, my, my family tends to
be nomadic.

874
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,880
We, we, we for generations have
moved around all over.

875
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,160
I've, I've actually just for
fun, have got into genealogy and

876
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,560
started to research my, my
history.

877
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,640
All right, because, well, the,
the last name is kind of a dead

878
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,120
giveaway.
You can assume that I'm Hispanic

879
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,960
in some kind of way.
No, really.

880
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Really.
Right, right.

881
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,360
Really.
But you know, Castillo is a very

882
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,280
common name.
It's is common as.

883
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Anderson, I was thinking you're
related to Randy Castillo, the

884
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,720
drummer for Ozzy Osbourne that
passed away years ago from the

885
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:18,400
stomachache.
No, no, we're we're not.

886
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,320
Damn it man, I had this all.
Well, I am.

887
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,160
I am in fact a third generation
Mexican American.

888
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,240
Really.
Yes, awesome.

889
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Congratulations.
Well, thank you.

890
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,000
Thank you.
I'd like to thank my parents for

891
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,240
getting together and my great
grandparents and and all that.

892
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,520
But yeah, interestingly enough,
so the whole reason why I got

893
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,040
into it is all of my father's
side of the family.

894
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,880
Yeah.
Was I refer to him as the the

895
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,760
Mexican side of the family, OK.
Because, well, I mean, they're

896
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,240
predominantly Mexican.
Sure, OK, It's a good way to

897
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,280
refer to him if they.
Are.

898
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,720
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not

899
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:00,960
lying.
I'm not lying.

900
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,280
But as far as history goes,
nobody seemed to know.

901
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Or at least nobody would tell
me.

902
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,520
Or my siblings.
Who were like our great great

903
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,440
grandparents and and so on and
so forth on on the paternal

904
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,120
side, you know, from grandfather
to great grandfather and so on

905
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,120
like.
They didn't know who they were

906
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,640
or they were just not telling
you.

907
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,200
I think they didn't.
They legitimately didn't know.

908
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
OK, I thought there was
something malicious going on

909
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,480
here.
No, no, OK, I, I did some

910
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:45,360
digging and back in the late
19th century, even early 19th

911
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:51,680
century record keeping was not
very good during that time,

912
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,280
especially in in Mexico and in
general.

913
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,600
Yeah.
Yeah.

914
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,040
Well, in general, yeah, you're
right.

915
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Record keeping was not great.
Everything was on paper.

916
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,800
Yeah, yeah.
Well, when it came to like doing

917
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,720
census and, and, and that sort
of thing, or at least

918
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,120
documenting families, it was a,
it was only done on a voluntary

919
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,960
basis.
It wasn't required.

920
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,240
And so I was able to trace back
as far as I think it was my,

921
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:29,000
let's see, first, second, third
great grandfather on my paternal

922
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,160
side.
OK, paternal lineage.

923
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,120
That's as far as I've got.
There's no documentation.

924
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,880
That's still pretty far.
You're talking, what, a couple

925
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,160
100 years?
At least into the late 18th

926
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,440
century.
Yeah, yeah.

927
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Couple 100 years.
Yeah, yeah.

928
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,600
Yeah, that's true.
And and just Mexico.

929
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Yeah, yeah.
No, well, that's just, you know,

930
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,200
that's, that's that one line.
But I found out that there was

931
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,240
some Scottish.
Oh, right on.

932
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,120
You got to have both sides
Spanish in there too because

933
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Castillo is not a Mexican, it's
a Spanish.

934
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,200
No, no, no.
It's, it's a, it comes from a

935
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960
name that originates from Spain.
Sure.

936
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,640
OK, so so that's where I was
going with that question about

937
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,000
Mexico, because then you got the
Santa the what is it?

938
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,080
The the what the fuck were they?
The Santa, The Santa Maria?

939
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,800
The.
Those are the pilgrims.

940
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,400
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
But.

941
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,480
You're talking about the Neenah
Pizza and Center?

942
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,840
Christopher Columbus.
There you go.

943
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,440
Yeah, that was Columbus.
Yeah, that was that was 15th

944
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,120
century, late 15th century,
1492.

945
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Sorry.
Sorry, sorry.

946
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,120
I was, you know, I was trying to
put.

947
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,520
So now you'd have to go back
like, what was it?

948
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,760
Hector Cortez, the Spanish
conquistadors.

949
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,920
Now, I haven't been able to
identify anything through that

950
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:55,160
line, but what you know, as like
the Mexican people, Mexican

951
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,320
culture, that sort of thing
originated from the indigenous

952
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,560
population who integrated, we'll
say, with the Spanish

953
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,560
conquistadors.
Yes.

954
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,080
Which is why they speak Spanish.
And Mexico used to go up all the

955
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,520
way as far as California is and
Nevada and Utah.

956
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,960
And so, yeah, when?
And Arizona.

957
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,520
And Texas.
And Arizona and Texas.

958
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Absolutely.
Yes, Yeah, yeah.

959
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,880
We just, you know, Spanish man,
before we sucked that right up.

960
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,240
Yeah, we just took it from them.
Yeah, pretty much.

961
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,520
But yeah, I've, I've been, I've
gone down some interesting

962
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,880
little rabbit holes.
I mean, obviously I found out

963
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,160
more, more stuff on my mother's
side because.

964
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,800
I would be curious for you to to
find out the Castillo like where

965
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
that Spanish descent came from
now.

966
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,800
Well, you know, I'm
unfortunately, I hit a brick

967
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,280
wall.
You know, I got as far as my

968
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,080
third great grandfather and that
was it.

969
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,760
And his name was Crispin,
believe it or not.

970
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,320
That Crispin.
Castillo, OH.

971
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,880
Yeah.
Spelled CRI with AC or yeah.

972
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,520
Yeah, spelled with AC.
Not like Crispin Glover.

973
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,520
You know who?
Crispin Glover.

974
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,240
Is right.
It's spelled the exact same way.

975
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,040
That's awesome.
Yeah.

976
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,600
I love that name.
Yeah, I wonder if they call them

977
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,400
crispy for short.
No, I probably call them chewy.

978
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,440
There you.
Go.

979
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,440
I'm sure I got a relative named
Chewy somewhere.

980
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,920
Any, any dark side, any like
mobsters and shit, any, any, you

981
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,960
know, serial killer.
OK.

982
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,440
Well, yeah.
Killers.

983
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,760
Yes.
Really.

984
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Right on.
I'll get to that.

985
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,560
I'll get to.
OK, OK, cool.

986
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,400
But I am in fact related to
somebody famous.

987
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,360
Right on.
Do tell Michael Casteel.

988
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,000
Gene Roddenberry.
No shit.

989
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,680
Really.
Yes, Star Trek feels like a

990
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,040
second.
Or third cousin removed or

991
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,200
something like that.
Yeah, and Gene Roddenberry.

992
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,160
It's on my mother's side of the
family.

993
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,040
The Roddenberries.
Yeah, we're related to the

994
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,840
Roddenberries.
Yeah, Star Trek, right?

995
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,960
Yep, creator Star Trek just.
Just because some people won't

996
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,080
know.
So Roddenberry.

997
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Star Trek case They've lived
under a rock anytime.

998
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,560
Well, but you know, think about
it in our world now.

999
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,320
Right.
It's like.

1000
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Little man's not gonna know who
Star Trek is.

1001
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,640
Yeah, but I don't expect little
man he will in time.

1002
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,520
That's just one of those things
that's so ingrained in our

1003
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,640
culture.
In about 5 years, he's going to

1004
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,920
know what Star Trek is too.
Everybody knows what?

1005
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,720
Well, all right, so 20 years
ago, you could say the name Gene

1006
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,800
Roddenberry and people knew who
that was.

1007
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,040
But nowadays you say the name
Gene Roddenberry and they're

1008
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,240
like, who?
And I'm like, how could you not

1009
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:30,840
know, man?
This.

1010
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Creator of Star Trek?
Absolutely.

1011
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:36,320
But yeah, where I'm, I'm, I am
related to him.

1012
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,000
Cool, who's the killer?
I knew.

1013
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,200
My grandfather, really.
How many people did he kill?

1014
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,840
Crispin 2.
Oh, right on.

1015
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,440
Goodbyes.
Good guys, bad guys.

1016
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,520
No.
No idea.

1017
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,960
No, no, I know.
Oh, it was my my grandmother and

1018
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,680
my great grandmother.
Oh, that's not good.

1019
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,280
No shit.
What happened there?

1020
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,080
That's not good.
I don't know all the details but

1021
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,720
it happened it I think it was
April 9th, 1966 in Brunswick,

1022
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:11,680
GA.
Wow, just bad day.

1023
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:13,960
Yep, bad day.
This sucks.

1024
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,440
Yeah.
But.

1025
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,120
I am.
I'm coming to discover that

1026
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,280
there's a lot of stuff like that
on that side of the family.

1027
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,640
Oh, OK, violence.
So that's your dad's side?

1028
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,120
No, that was my mom's side.
Your.

1029
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,720
Mom's side, OK, Your mom's side.
So your dad's side is more

1030
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,800
vanilla.
Mom's side is like, we're going

1031
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,080
to shake the pot up a little
bit.

1032
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,280
We're going to stir the shit.
Yeah.

1033
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,400
OK, Yeah.
Although, OK, so yeah, now my

1034
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,560
father had a very explosive
temper.

1035
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,800
He was Vietnam vet, My
grandfather was a World War 2

1036
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,800
vet.
That's his father.

1037
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,080
And an interesting little story
I'll share with you about my

1038
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,040
grandfather to my entire
childhood.

1039
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,840
First of all, I grew up only
knowing one grandparent, him.

1040
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,880
That's it.
Interesting.

1041
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,760
So the concept of having more
than one grandparent was

1042
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,000
completely foreign to me most of
my childhood.

1043
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,760
OK, I didn't understand how you
could have more than one because

1044
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,960
that's all I grew up with.
What do you mean you guys?

1045
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,880
Too was my grandfather, his name
was Agapito Castilla.

1046
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,680
Oh, that's a cool name.
That is.

1047
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,440
And he went by Pete.
And what what made him really

1048
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520
interesting is growing up
knowing him, he was like a

1049
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,200
really sweet guy who, like, was
very encouraging.

1050
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,560
Like he wanted me to like, take
school seriously.

1051
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,440
Yeah, quit chasing girls, which
I've always had trouble there.

1052
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,840
Hey, man.
Right.

1053
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,160
And being a singer and musician
didn't make it any easier.

1054
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,240
No, in fact, that got me into
poor trouble.

1055
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,920
But anyway, I digress.
So my whole life I I saw this

1056
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,320
sweet man and never thought
anything different until my

1057
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,720
father started to share stories
about him and found out that my

1058
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:14,480
grandfather.
This ties into the mob comment

1059
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:20,080
made earlier.
Now I don't know which mob

1060
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:25,520
affiliate is involved in this
story but my grandfather was.

1061
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,640
When he got out of the military
he did auto body work and

1062
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:38,240
sometimes he did independent
contracting and would often time

1063
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:45,400
be asked to do body repairs that
involved things like bullet

1064
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,120
wounds and such.
Are not wounds.

1065
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,440
I shouldn't say wounds.
I know what you mean.

1066
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,720
Bullet Bullet damage.
To the car.

1067
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,240
To the car, yes.
Right and bullet wound to the

1068
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:57,000
car.
Yeah, bullet wound to the car.

1069
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:02,680
And as I understand it, he had
done that regularly and whoever

1070
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,440
the mob person was was so
impressed by that kind of hired

1071
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,680
him on full time.
See, I never thought about that

1072
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,680
angle.
Yeah, they had.

1073
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,240
They had to get all these cars
repaired.

1074
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:14,440
They can't.
Couldn't just take them

1075
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,280
anywhere.
But it's but it's kind of like 2

1076
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,440
in the John Wicks, right?
The first John Wick, when he

1077
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,680
when he kills all the guys in
his house, he has the the crew

1078
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:24,960
come over pays him.
A couple.

1079
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,000
That's a couple chunks ago.
So that's I mean, that's another

1080
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,640
side gig for you know, you know,
and that guy, I don't know if

1081
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560
you realize this, but the guy
that the main character that

1082
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,520
would that ran the crew that
cleaned up the shit.

1083
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,840
Remember the movie The Warriors?
Yeah.

1084
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,560
Warriors come out.
That was him, man.

1085
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Shit, that was him.
I don't I forget his name too

1086
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,680
because he said all these really
cool little roles.

1087
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,400
He's a great character actor.
Yeah, my my favorite movie with

1088
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,720
him was Last Man Standing with
Bruce Willis.

1089
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Absolutely.
Oh yeah.

1090
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,840
I went to the movie theater to
see that.

1091
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,040
I loved that movie.
Me too.

1092
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,320
Of course I'm I'm a huge
Christopher Walken fan.

1093
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,000
Me too.
We have that in common as.

1094
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,960
Well I heard Christopher Walken
fan Who?

1095
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,640
Who is that dude?
He's AI mean 7 psychopaths.

1096
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,920
One of my.
Favorite movies?

1097
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,600
No question.
No.

1098
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Question.
That was great, and for a time,

1099
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,000
I don't know if I told you what
I used to do professionally or

1100
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,280
if I've.
Mentioned that at all.

1101
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,080
Weren't you a pimp?
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1102
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,480
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
The hat should tell you it's a

1103
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,440
good no.
I I used to be a nurse.

1104
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,960
Oh nice.
Yeah, worked in a lot of ERS,

1105
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,080
but you know, my career was
diverse.

1106
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,200
I did a bunch of other things as
well.

1107
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Ended up I think the last
nursing job I did was in

1108
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,840
corrections.
We could do a whole podcast on

1109
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,040
that.
Oh yeah.

1110
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,640
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It led to me doing a lot of self

1111
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,720
reflecting.
Sure you know, but really can't.

1112
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,080
Imagine.
There he is.

1113
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,120
It was, it was an interesting
experience, it really was.

1114
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,000
There he is.
That's him.

1115
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,280
That's.
David Patrick Kelly.

1116
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,840
David Patrick Kelly, that's.
Him.

1117
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,440
Yep.
Yeah.

1118
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,720
They're good.
Look at there he is.

1119
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,920
There's Last man standing
dreams, Dreamscape.

1120
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,120
If you remember Dreamscape.
Dreamscape.

1121
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Great.
Dude, yeah, he played.

1122
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,840
He played the bad guy.
Yes he did.

1123
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,640
So you got the Warriors term
Commando Dreamscape.

1124
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,960
Was that does it say Chris?
Dreamscape 1984 is Dreamscape

1125
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:25,640
that's a.
Great.

1126
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
I went to the theaters.
That was Dennis Quaid.

1127
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,000
Yeah, look at that.
Look at that.

1128
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,120
Hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit,
hit.

1129
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,720
Fucking hit.
That's what I said.

1130
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,320
He's a great character actor
one.

1131
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Of my favorite movies.
Fucking right.

1132
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,480
The original.
The original.

1133
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Pro Yes.
Yep, adventures of Ford

1134
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,520
Fairlane, OH.
I love that movie.

1135
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,960
That was a great movie too.
John Jereo is John Westclay Hit

1136
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,880
hit.
It's just, I mean, the dude just

1137
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880
he's a great character actor.
Just all these movies, man.

1138
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:03,760
There's very much, though.
Beverly Hills Cop hit Yeah.

1139
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Yeah.
Yeah.

1140
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,520
So anyway, giving back to the
whole Christopher Walken.

1141
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,000
Thing, Right, right, right.
Right.

1142
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,720
I idolized him to a point where
I started to imitate him.

1143
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,000
For fun, I would do impressions
of Christopher Walken.

1144
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,200
I I don't know if I can do it.
Come on, come on, come on.

1145
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,880
You got to do it now.
You can do it better, neither

1146
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,360
one of us.
I'll, I'll, I'll give it a shot,

1147
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,280
but I'll tell you who my
inspiration was.

1148
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,600
In order for me to get
Christopher Walken down, I

1149
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,480
couldn't just watch Christopher
Walken.

1150
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,600
I had to watch people who
imitated him, right.

1151
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,960
And the one person who I thought
did the absolute best impression

1152
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,800
of Christopher Walken was Kevin
Pollak.

1153
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,400
OK, no shit.
His impression?

1154
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,000
Of it is good just.
For walking is spot.

1155
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,720
On it is good.
Because back in his early career

1156
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,040
as a stand up comic, he would do
Shatner.

1157
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,520
He'd do walk in and, and, and a
couple other people, but Walken

1158
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,480
and Shatner were his two like
favorites that he would do cool.

1159
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,360
And so I was just like, you know
what, I'm going to watch Pollock

1160
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,680
do Christopher Walken and just
do an imitation of that.

1161
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880
And so that's what I ended up
doing.

1162
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,160
And like, I was at the time, I
was working in this orthopedic

1163
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,000
office.
So I was a orthopedic nurse and

1164
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,480
I was.
Torturing.

1165
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,920
Literally torturing my Co
workers doing this impression

1166
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,440
daily.
They'd be like hey Mike, listen

1167
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:39,440
we got somebody like no not yet.
It's important we take care of

1168
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:47,880
ourselves first.
Definitely that's that's

1169
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,280
probably the best.
That's that's that's.

1170
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,960
Fucking awesome.
That was really good, dude.

1171
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:52,720
Yeah.
I was.

1172
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,000
I was going to riff.
I was going to riff off you with

1173
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,600
my Tony Montana political
refugee.

1174
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,640
Oh, man, don't even think it
started on Tony Montana.

1175
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,200
But then I used to.
Yeah.

1176
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,400
Yeah.
We used to watch Scarface for

1177
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:03,920
fun.
Yeah.

1178
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,440
Oh, yeah.
And we like back and forth.

1179
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,520
We do lines back and forth.
You know that.

1180
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,800
Omar, I never like him.
He was synonymous.

1181
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,320
I know he could have got my
friend Angel Fernandez.

1182
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,800
Q Mr. Salsa.
Oh, yeah.

1183
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Tony.
Tony.

1184
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,120
Tony.
I got one rule, Tony.

1185
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,400
Don't you ever fuck me, Tony.
Right.

1186
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,200
Don't you ever fuck me, Mr.
Salsa.

1187
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,520
I never fucked anybody who
didn't have to call me.

1188
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:37,560
And then my favorite all time
was her womb is so polluted she

1189
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,520
never give me no babies.
Yeah, that is one of the

1190
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,200
greatest lines ever.
Let's just talk a moment about

1191
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,320
Michelle Pfeiffer.
Yeah, like she's my hall pass.

1192
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,320
Oh.
Yeah, it's always been my hall

1193
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,080
pass.
She's still fucking a beautiful

1194
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,600
woman.
I follow on Instagram.

1195
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,360
She's.
Gorgeous.

1196
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,880
She's like she's aging,
graceful.

1197
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,280
She's married to oh I forgot I
lost his name, but he's.

1198
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,480
She's married to the dude that's
behind The Sopranos.

1199
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,640
OK, OK.
Oh, David Crane.

1200
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,880
Yes, David Kelly.
David Kelly.

1201
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,720
I thought it was David Kelly.
Maybe it's David Crane, but

1202
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,960
that's who she's married to.
Maybe I'm OK, maybe I'm

1203
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,320
combining two people into one.
I do that sometimes.

1204
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,520
I used to have several hall
passes like Jennifer Love Hewitt

1205
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,400
was 1 for me.
Yeah, David Kelly, David E

1206
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,240
Kelly.
He's the guy.

1207
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,960
That was David.
E Kelly Yeah, that sounds about

1208
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,760
right.
Yeah, yeah.

1209
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,040
David Kelly not.
Jennifer loves The Sopranos

1210
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,640
though.
Jennifer Love Hewitt, she was in

1211
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,200
We just watched that I know the
the, the the remake of I know

1212
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,320
What you did Last summer, the 2.
1025 basically it's supposed to

1213
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,640
pick up after.
Well, yeah, I don't know, but we

1214
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,200
were, we were in probably like
an hour into it.

1215
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,480
And I looked at Nikki.
I'm like, that's Jennifer Love

1216
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Hewitt, man.
She got some Jlo hips now.

1217
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,960
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
She was this nice little, sweet,

1218
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,760
petite little woman.
Now she's got the big old Jlo

1219
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,800
hips.
Yeah.

1220
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,320
And and you didn't know that
until she until you hit a full

1221
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,640
I'm like, holy shit, Jlo.
And it's like, wow, OK,

1222
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,200
menopause hit her hard.
No, no, actually I think that

1223
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:14,120
she has aged like fine wine and
looks like like my ideal woman.

1224
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,400
OK.
That's me.

1225
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:17,680
That's me.
No, it's a no.

1226
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,600
I just I just because in my
head, James Love Hugh is that

1227
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,440
little petite little tiny little
thing.

1228
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,840
And so I haven't seen her one
forever.

1229
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,800
That's not my, that's not my
frame.

1230
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,360
On So I haven't seen her
forever.

1231
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,720
So when, yeah.
So when she pulled, when we

1232
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,480
figured out that was her, I was
like, wow.

1233
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,520
But yeah, it's, you know, I
ain't mad at you.

1234
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,560
Just saying to me I.
Just don't hate on me, man.

1235
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,600
Stop hating.
Yeah, stop hating, man.

1236
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,800
You're bringing me down.
Don't bring me kill my vibe.

1237
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,720
I can't.
I can't even fake being mad at

1238
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,360
him.
It's hard.

1239
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,480
Don't get mad.
Well, it just doesn't.

1240
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,440
Happen.
Don't get mad.

1241
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,560
Get even.
Don't do it.

1242
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:57,920
Yeah, don't.
Do it, Don't do it.

1243
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,520
Don't.
Do it.

1244
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,520
We're all going to start doing
it.

1245
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Don't do it.
I can't do impression, so mine's

1246
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,840
going.
To suck, you know, what I want

1247
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,680
to do is I want to memorize the
monologue that he does in that

1248
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,720
movie, Man on Fire with Denzel
Washington.

1249
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,080
We were just talking.
About that this afternoon.

1250
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,160
That's so crazy.
How did I shit?

1251
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,800
You not.
I stopped by the union hall in

1252
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,400
my bargaining chairman and our
recording secretary and the

1253
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,080
first Chef committee men were
there, and we were literally

1254
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,840
talking about all these great
movies that Denzel Washington

1255
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,640
and Christopher Walken and yeah,
who's the other big actor that's

1256
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,720
in that?
Let's see, I got to say, well,

1257
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,960
Dakota Fanning, that's an early.
That was the other one that Chad

1258
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,040
mentioned, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1259
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,640
But yeah, that's one of my
favorite movies.

1260
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,080
I used to own that I got to.
Watch it again dude, I can't

1261
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,040
play.
I told those guys if Christopher

1262
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,240
Watkins in it, I have 100% seen
it because I've seen all his

1263
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,400
movies.
But I cannot place that movie,

1264
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,560
so I got to watch it again.
There's a movie with Christopher

1265
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:00,840
Walken.
He did it in the 80s.

1266
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,160
If I remember it's it's either
early 90s or late 80s where he

1267
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,960
was a vampire.
Hold on one second.

1268
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,320
Cannot think of name that movie.
Do you know Man on Fire, Chris?

1269
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Do you know the movies they're
talking?

1270
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:11,320
About.
Yeah, man.

1271
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,080
Yeah, I think so.
Hold on.

1272
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,720
I gotta watch a remake.
I I gotta watch this again, I

1273
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,040
just.
Yeah, yeah.

1274
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,960
Yeah, that's a great.
That's the second time today,

1275
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,520
like literally within an hour
and a half I've heard that name,

1276
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,800
that name of that movie.
Yeah, yeah, some two.

1277
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,600
It's 2004.
It's an alcoholic, despondent

1278
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,520
CIA agent turned bodyguard.
Yeah, yeah, It may.

1279
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,040
It may.
That was a bad time in my life,

1280
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,000
Mikey.
There you go.

1281
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,480
That's why I probably don't
remember it.

1282
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,160
I probably watched it, but I
literally probably don't

1283
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,440
remember it.
Well, I saw it.

1284
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,560
My wife and I just got married
and we were expecting our first

1285
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,520
child.
And I bought the DVD because,

1286
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,240
you know, back in those days it
was DVDs that was the thing to

1287
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,960
get.
Yeah, yeah, I used to buy those

1288
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,080
blank ones and then somehow,
yeah.

1289
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,960
Somehow portable ones.
Somehow a movie would magically

1290
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,560
appear on the other side of that
blank.

1291
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,800
I don't know how that happened,
but I ended up with hundreds of

1292
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,840
those.
Yeah, yeah.

1293
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,840
I didn't have any money back.
Then so I I had a pretty

1294
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,920
extensive library of movies that
some sort of some somehow

1295
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,440
appeared on blank discs.
Yeah, dude.

1296
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,440
I had, I had.
I would get the VC.

1297
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,080
Hey, we lost your audio, buddy.
I can't hear you.

1298
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,840
I can't hear your voice.
It's like you got to shorten

1299
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,400
your mic or something.
Or you unplug.

1300
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,280
Yeah, make sure.
Your chords plugged in either.

1301
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,640
On your microphone it was when
you touched the mic.

1302
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,440
Ah, it came unplugged, ah.
There we go.

1303
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,200
See.
Singer moment.

1304
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,080
I know my electronics.
Oh, no, no.

1305
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,680
When I When I.
Was during on a show once I had

1306
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:59,280
the mic going and knocked the
cord from the mic but kept going

1307
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,040
and thought I was doing great.
What were you saying?

1308
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,200
I was saying that I, I had that.
No, you're fine.

1309
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,040
I said probably, you know, 1000
VHVHS tapes and they all had at

1310
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520
least three movies on them and
I'm talking.

1311
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,920
I remember seeing your
collection.

1312
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,800
From 19, yeah, from 1980 on,
because I, I was home so much

1313
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,960
with asthma and shit that I
would just, you know, we had, we

1314
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,279
had the movie channels and I
would put it in a recorder and I

1315
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,479
just, you know, I mean, I
fucking had everything you can

1316
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,319
think of.
I mean, just just stuff that you

1317
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,439
can't find now.
Like there's a couple movies I

1318
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,560
would love to find.
That was then.

1319
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,279
This is now one of the Emilio
Estevez and flicks.

1320
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Right.
He's another one that I like a

1321
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,040
lot of people.
It's a love him or hate him as

1322
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,960
an actor, I love that guy as an.
Actor I love Emilio Estevez as

1323
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,000
an actor.
I think he did an awesome job in

1324
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,760
Young Guns.
They're supposed to come out

1325
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,760
with.
Their movies.

1326
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,920
They're supposed to be doing
another one.

1327
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,439
Young guns was cool because of
the like like loved westerns,

1328
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,960
right.
So the long riders, if you'd if

1329
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,439
you'd never heard of the long
riders, that kind of brought the

1330
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,640
westerns back to the.
Forefront.

1331
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,080
I watched it after we talked
about it.

1332
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,000
By the way.
Great movie, thank you.

1333
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,920
Yes, the Carradine, the, the
Carradine brothers, the the

1334
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,279
Quaid brothers, the Keats
brothers.

1335
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,120
Fuck.
What?

1336
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,600
Shit, David.
Yeah, OK, that was right.

1337
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:18,479
Right.
Somebody else.

1338
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,040
Yeah, there's, there's four sets
of brothers in it.

1339
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,880
It's amazing.
But then young guns, young guns

1340
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,720
did this, did what Long Riders
did.

1341
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,359
It brought Westerns back to the
forefront.

1342
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,120
Right, with and then music kind
of twist, yeah.

1343
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,840
Sick kind of twist a little bit,
yeah.

1344
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,680
Yeah, but they're supposedly
doing another one.

1345
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:37,960
They're they're supposedly in
production.

1346
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,760
So we'll.
But they nailed the timing.

1347
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,479
We were all, what, probably 15
when that movie came out?

1348
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,439
Yeah, well, I was.
I was a little younger, but

1349
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,000
yeah.
Right.

1350
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,800
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

1351
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,640
I think it was probably like 11
or 12 maybe.

1352
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,360
Still all in that wheelhouse
where we're going to go see it

1353
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,280
at the movie theater.
And back then, there was no

1354
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Internet, so we actually went to
see movies.

1355
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

1356
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,640
You either did that or you
waited two years for it to come

1357
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,000
out at the video store, you
know?

1358
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,880
Yeah, yeah.
The new Superman dropped on

1359
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,240
freaking Netflix or something
like within a month.

1360
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,560
HBO Max.
Yeah, like serial Max, it's that

1361
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,200
bad.
It's already here.

1362
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,320
No, it's.
Great.

1363
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,960
It's just that.
Watched.

1364
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,080
It there's so many people that
don't go to the movies because

1365
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,280
they have these 80 inch
televisions like my well, I

1366
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,680
don't have an 80 inch
television, but I do have a 600

1367
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Watt surround sound in my living
room.

1368
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,680
So I don't really need to go.
You know, I can shake the house

1369
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,400
as well as the movie theater
can.

1370
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:35,320
Yeah.
And I love going to the movies.

1371
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,160
But when you're by yourself that
then you become the weird dude.

1372
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,000
I, I used to love going to
movies, but I can't do it by

1373
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,520
myself.
No, I've got the.

1374
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:49,720
I've got issues with like
somewhat social anxiety,

1375
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,880
somewhat agoraphobia.
Have always had trouble with

1376
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,800
that.
That's what one of the reasons

1377
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,800
why I became a musician is, so I
could get.

1378
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,520
Paid to.
Nice job I.

1379
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,240
Always say that I have to have
my emotional support person in

1380
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,880
whatever situation I'm in,
right?

1381
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,800
As long as I have somebody that
understands that I am kind of,

1382
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:14,120
I'm not socially awkward, but
like you said, you and I kind of

1383
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,800
have a lot of the same weird
similarities.

1384
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,800
So yeah, Chris was like, I don't
know what you're talking about.

1385
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,040
I talk to everybody.
I don't care if you want to talk

1386
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,560
to me or not.
No, I, I had that problem on my

1387
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,520
own, but if I was with another
person, like my best friend back

1388
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,680
home, his name's Lynn.
And in a lot of my YouTube

1389
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,000
videos, he's the other guy in,
in the videos with me, his

1390
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,000
name's Lynn.
And that's that's will forever

1391
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,960
be my ride or die. 24 countries
would not know who I am if he

1392
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,240
wouldn't have said, if he would
have said no, I'm not interested

1393
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,840
in doing a podcast.
None of this would be here.

1394
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,680
You would not be talking to me
because I was not going to do it

1395
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,280
on my own.
I just, I needed that

1396
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,760
extroverted.
I've been there, done that.

1397
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,600
I understand how to capture
people's attention.

1398
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,880
You know, he kind of brought me
out of my shell a lot.

1399
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,440
Just yeah.
I have him to thank for that.

1400
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,680
He's like, Dad, just you're
talking to me, you know, we're,

1401
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,920
we're not talking to anybody
else.

1402
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,080
You're just talking to me.
And as soon as you said that,

1403
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,560
like, I became a different
person.

1404
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,600
So I don't even think about the
fact that.

1405
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,320
Yeah, exactly.
I do not think.

1406
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,160
About the fact ever that we're
talking to 24 countries or

1407
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,720
however many people are
listening on YouTube and Twitch,

1408
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,280
I don't it never.
Enters my mind.

1409
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,560
I'm all.
Right.

1410
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,640
And Mike puts all these Easter
eggs and shit.

1411
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,680
I've never watched us.
I've never watched a full

1412
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,360
episode of of our show, but at
the same time I never.

1413
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,720
Made two, I have to edit them.
Yeah, yeah.

1414
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,440
I never listened back to my
shows when I was on the radio.

1415
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,480
I never watched the content we
made from that.

1416
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:48,440
I never, I would watch when we
would record our shows.

1417
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:52,480
I'd watch it more to critique
myself than to watch myself

1418
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,440
performing, if that makes sense.
So when it comes to all all this

1419
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,320
stuff, it's just, I don't, I
don't feel the need to watch it

1420
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,080
because I, I don't, I just
don't.

1421
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,920
I mean, there's, you know,
there's actors like Donald

1422
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,160
Sutherland never watched himself
in a movie ever.

1423
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,400
Like never.
Michael Richard never watched

1424
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,800
himself in Seinfeld.
Michael Richard never watched

1425
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,920
himself at all in Seinfeld.
Not a single.

1426
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,440
Fact.
Yeah, like he just because he

1427
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:16,400
was so insecure.
He's such an insecure human

1428
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,760
being, which is bizarre, but
one.

1429
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,080
Of the greatest pop culture
characters that has ever been

1430
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,160
created in the history of
television, I don't care.

1431
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,400
Who we are Cosmo Kramer.
Right, and and from a physical

1432
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,840
standpoint of comedy too, like
it just, it was next level and

1433
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,320
he just, he just, he always felt
he looked stupid.

1434
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,200
So he never watched himself.
Oh my God, I don't know why.

1435
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,840
I don't know Donald Sutherland's
excuse, but I, I remember

1436
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,760
watching an interview with him
on the inside the actors studio

1437
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,400
and and the guy asked him, he's
like, no, I've never watched

1438
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,360
myself in anything.
I don't want to.

1439
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:48,840
It's all right as long as it's
not pretentious.

1440
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,520
Right, right.
Yeah.

1441
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,640
I'd have to hear his
explanation, I guess, to make my

1442
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,880
own judgment, but these people
that are like, I never watch my

1443
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,040
art.
Yeah, fuck you.

1444
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,680
Well, I don't, they didn't say
it.

1445
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,560
They don't watch my art.
They just don't watch it.

1446
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,080
Like I think both of them had
the same kind of reaction to it.

1447
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,400
It's just like they it's just,
it's weird to them.

1448
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,480
I understand why you don't go
back and listen to this, right?

1449
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,040
We're participants.
This is a live and then

1450
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,960
recreated later podcast, right?
We've kind of turned it into a 2

1451
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,240
headed animal.
There's the live version, which

1452
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,400
a lot of people watch on YouTube
and Twitch, and then there's the

1453
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,960
edited version, which is
different and it gets released

1454
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,760
later.
And but yeah.

1455
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:36,640
I do watch the.
Short experience, I do too.

1456
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,960
You've already experienced it,
so why go back?

1457
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,200
Right.
It's not like a song, it's not

1458
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,560
like a movie.
That's why I'm going to I don't

1459
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,680
go back and listen to the full
episode either.

1460
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,280
I hit the highlights as I'm
editing it to make sure that the

1461
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,360
audio is right.
The video looks good.

1462
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,760
You know, to the best of my
ability.

1463
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,520
I don't have so much time, but I
think we do a pretty good job of

1464
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,160
producing a quality product.
Why would he go back or me and

1465
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,000
listen to what we've already
done?

1466
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,920
And it's its entirety, right,
Right.

1467
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,760
We're moving on.
This is more like a organic

1468
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,600
experience that keeps growing
and living as a almost like its

1469
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,440
own entity.
We're looking forward to the

1470
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:17,640
future, right?
Who's the next guest?

1471
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,080
What are we going to learn next?
What's Friday bring?

1472
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,000
What's Tuesday bring?
Right, I got to, I got to build

1473
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,520
a plaque now for Michael
Castillo Day, you know?

1474
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,800
Yep, now we yes, we owe a
plaque.

1475
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,080
From that's got to be for sure.
If I, if you see in that I'm I'm

1476
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,120
just, I'm going to come out of
my skin, it's and.

1477
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,440
Then and now for sure dude.
When we start when when we open

1478
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,000
our merchandise deal and we're
starting to do T-shirts and

1479
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,280
stuff, the Mikey Castillo day,
October 28th is going to be a

1480
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,800
T-shirt, I guarantee.
Well, listen, if you do that,

1481
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,160
I'll be one of the first people
to buy one.

1482
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,720
We're going to make it happen.
Yeah, yeah.

1483
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,520
We've been talking about that.
We need, we need merch.

1484
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,960
We just haven't done it yet.
We're going to make it.

1485
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,360
Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely.

1486
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,840
As soon as we start sponsors to
do the merch for us.

1487
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,440
Yeah.
And listen to Bruce Gambino,

1488
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,280
Vela Cheetah, Record Management,
Marketing.

1489
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,760
Come on, pick us up.
I'm going to throw it out there

1490
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,360
again, if you got if anybody
owns a business and they would

1491
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,960
like to send us free swag, we
will wear it on the air.

1492
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,880
We will free.
I've been wearing the same hat

1493
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,160
for 150 episodes now, and I'm
going to continue to shoot,

1494
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,240
support my poor Ash, Chicago
Bears until somebody sends me a

1495
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,960
free hat.
So, well, there you go.

1496
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,920
There you.
Go Speaking of football, because

1497
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,680
we we and we got to wrap this up
because we're we're we're you

1498
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,160
know, but Speaking of football,
Cam scataboo.

1499
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,120
Do you guys see that shit?
I I haven't watched football

1500
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,360
since 1989.
Wow.

1501
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:43,600
Really.
Denver Broncos, San Francisco

1502
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,800
49ers.
That's the last Super Bowl I

1503
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,280
ever watched.
Why is that?

1504
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:52,920
Because now I'm intrigued.
Well, because I it was, I think

1505
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,440
it was right shortly after that,
Joe Montana ended up going to

1506
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,600
Kansas City Chiefs.
Oh, that pitch.

1507
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,240
And I just lost interest.
Interesting.

1508
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,640
Cuz I'd like I, I was just like,
all right, so they got that guy,

1509
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,760
what's his name?
Sean.

1510
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,240
No, not Sean, but young Steve
young Steve Young.

1511
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,280
He was a rookie then and, and,
or at least he was like an

1512
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,920
alternate.
And I thought, well, you know,

1513
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,600
they'll do fine with him.
But I just, I mean, Joe Montana,

1514
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,600
I've been following him, you
know?

1515
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,840
Little so I will say this, then
you have not missed much.

1516
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,400
No, really, you just missed the
downfall of football.

1517
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,680
You got you, got you.
You stopped when football was

1518
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,680
still football, man.
Yeah.

1519
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,200
Now, when I was in high school,
I did.

1520
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,320
I watched more boxing than
anything, like on Showtime,

1521
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:39,840
remember?
Yeah.

1522
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,240
Oh yeah, Box, yeah.
After hours, yeah.

1523
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,520
Boxing after dark, yeah.
Real quick, real quick shout out

1524
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,680
to Jig.
Congratulations on your fourth

1525
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,120
win as a professional boxer.
Nice way to go, brother.

1526
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,360
All right, so we're going to
get.

1527
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,120
You back on the show, Jig?
Yeah, we do.

1528
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,160
Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that
episode.

1529
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,680
Yeah, that guy was cool.
He just had his fourth fight on

1530
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,400
Saturday this past Saturday and
he knocked together the fuck out

1531
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,200
again, so way to go jig.
Yeah, jigs, a good jigs jig.

1532
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,960
We like to jig for the simple
fact that it was.

1533
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,280
Yeah.
How you doing man?

1534
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,000
He remember he was so humble
dude.

1535
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,400
And then he gets in there and
just beat stuff living.

1536
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,760
Destroys the guy just.
He's like, that's what I do, you

1537
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,400
know, when I get in there,
that's what they're, you know,

1538
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,520
that's what the people came to
see and knock them.

1539
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,080
Out that's the switch.
That's the switch.

1540
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,520
Like I, I can like here I'm
Chris Dunham, I go on stage, I'm

1541
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,440
Iron Dog.
That just that you flip that

1542
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,600
switch, all of a sudden the
whole different person takes

1543
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,720
over.
And it completely, I have to do

1544
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,960
that because I am not the person
that got up there at all.

1545
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,920
Yeah.
Yeah, that's 180° move for me.

1546
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,840
But once I hear that first chord
and I feel that air coming out

1547
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,720
of those speakers, yeah, it just
takes over, man.

1548
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,320
I know what to do with that
piece of wood, right?

1549
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,520
I can talk to you with that
piece of wood way better than I

1550
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,040
could back then, 1,000,000%
better than I could talk to you

1551
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,360
face to face, right?
I didn't have the vocabulary

1552
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,440
back then.
Yeah, Speaking of guitars, he

1553
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:08,680
ended up talking to the Monkey
House guitar guy for like 6

1554
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,280
hours it seemed like after the
show he kept talking.

1555
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,480
To you.
We talked at 9:00 at night,

1556
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,000
right?
So another three hours.

1557
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,200
We did an hour and 5 minute
podcast or an hour and 10 minute

1558
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,000
podcast, Yeah.
Then yeah, I ended up talking to

1559
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,280
him for at least another 4
hours, right?

1560
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,360
That's insane.
That dude's bad ass, man.

1561
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just going to take over the

1562
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,200
world, I hope.
Let's pimp out Michael Castillo

1563
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:40,520
so we can find you on the
Facebook, which is yes, whoops,

1564
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,760
I'm sorry, that was me.
And oh, that was me and Nikki at

1565
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,280
Halloween.
I don't know why that's up.

1566
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,440
That's a great, that's a great
costume.

1567
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:48,640
Hey, I made.
That.

1568
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:55,960
That's a still photo, kid you
kid you not, that's a still

1569
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,800
photo.
That's awesome.

1570
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,600
Michael.
I don't.

1571
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:10,080
Michael Castillo.
Are we not friends regularly?

1572
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,960
We might.
We must be friends on our on my

1573
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,080
regular page.
So I just want to share this

1574
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,440
stuff so people know.
Yeah.

1575
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,680
So that's the book, The cyber
Dance.

1576
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:21,880
Yeah.
I'm going to get that.

1577
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,480
It's the The Rain Chronicles
book one.

1578
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,840
It's on Amazon, Audible.
Where else?

1579
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,720
It's Amazon, Audible, and on
iTunes.

1580
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,480
That's right, iTunes.
So definitely go buy that book

1581
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,080
and then you have another one
coming out in January.

1582
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,600
Yeah, well, no, not in January.
It's going to be later.

1583
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:48,320
It'll be as early as spring.
But it it just depends on what,

1584
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,320
how quickly I can get things
wrapped up and and how long

1585
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,800
it'll take to for the editing
process.

1586
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,280
OK, because the publishing is
actually quite easy.

1587
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,880
It's the editing process that
takes so damn long.

1588
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,560
In order to keep up with our
schedule, we're going to need

1589
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,600
you to be done by January.
Yeah, that's not happening.

1590
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,000
I'll just say that now.
It's not happening.

1591
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,200
I'm just.
So do you edit it or do you have

1592
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,600
people editing it for you?
Well, I, I do it my own edits

1593
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:23,720
and then I have a guy who has a
background in education, OK, who

1594
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:29,200
has is also a very close
personal friend of mine cool,

1595
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,280
who volunteered his services
right on.

1596
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,920
And I gracious gratefully
accepted that.

1597
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:44,680
And he, he what the way he, he
comes at it with editing is

1598
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,760
first of all, if he says it
sounds corny, he's going to tell

1599
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,840
me it sounds corny.
Good.

1600
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,960
And that's what I want.
I want that kind of feedback,

1601
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,480
sure.
But he is also kind of peppered

1602
01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:00,800
in a few things to help me kind
of get some points across.

1603
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,960
So he's helped me maybe reword
some things a little bit

1604
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,920
differently.
But he knows where I'm coming

1605
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,280
from.
He he has an intimate

1606
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,920
understanding of the characters
I've developed.

1607
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,400
Right on.
That's cool.

1608
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,280
Nice.
So Cyber Dance is out right now,

1609
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,040
Audible, Amazon and iTunes,
which is cool.

1610
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,920
So your next one's coming out is
that book two of the cyber IT?

1611
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,640
Will be book 2.
Tentatively it's I've got a

1612
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,040
title, a working title, which
I'll I'll give that away.

1613
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,920
It's going to be called the
Cyber Child.

1614
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,720
Oh, right on.
I like it.

1615
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,360
So.
So somebody diddled somebody,

1616
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,240
they had a baby right on.
I'm not going to give anything

1617
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,920
on.
No, let me read this one for I'm

1618
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,400
going to listen to it on
audible, but let me get through

1619
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,280
this one first for sure.
But tomorrow at work, I know I'm

1620
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,320
going to start the Cyber Dance
by Michael R Castillo, who I

1621
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,000
know is Mikey because I see him
on the chat window all.

1622
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,040
The time, yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
Well, you know, the.

1623
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,360
All right, so the whole Mikey
thing, that's my friends back

1624
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,960
home, call me Mikey.
But everybody here in Delaware,

1625
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,600
they.
They call me Michael.

1626
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,920
Oh, and like my mother has
emphasized, anybody she

1627
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,160
introduces me to as Michael, but
all my friends back home will

1628
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,640
forever call me Mikey.
Everybody calls me Mike unless

1629
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,800
my mom's mad at me, and then
I'll know for sure because then

1630
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,800
I'm model for sure.
Yeah, well, if my mom's pissed

1631
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,360
at me, it's Michael Robert.
Yeah.

1632
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,240
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

1633
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,320
I heard my middle name when I
was a kid, but now even when I

1634
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,320
hear Michael, I know I better
pay attention.

1635
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,680
I don't have.
I don't have to worry about that

1636
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:40,960
at all.
No, you don't.

1637
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Hey, so this is this is the
Kristen Mike show.

1638
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,400
He's Chris.
I'm like, this is Michael

1639
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,960
Castillo.
It's Michael Castillo day.

1640
01:23:47,480 --> 01:23:49,960
And yeah, Mike knows because we
do this with every show.

1641
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:54,360
If you are feeling depressed or
suicidal, go outside and run.

1642
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,600
Go for run, go journal, go
scream in a pillow, go workout.

1643
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,640
Do something that changes your
mind, changes your mindset.

1644
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,920
Tomorrow is a better day because
you're going to be in it.

1645
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,240
Somebody Loves You.
Don't leave a hole in their

1646
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:07,600
heart.
If you cannot find somebody to

1647
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,800
talk to you, as I pulled it up
right here, 988 Lifeline, you

1648
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,320
can call, text and chat.
They're there waiting for you

1649
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,480
right now to talk to them to
help you go through your

1650
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:19,360
struggles.
It doesn't matter what you're

1651
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:20,960
dealing with, they are here to
help you.

1652
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,880
So there's the steps for that.
So don't be that person that

1653
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,960
leaves a hole in somebody's
heart.

1654
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,960
I just actually lost a friend of
mine a couple weeks ago who

1655
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,480
decided to play Lollipop with
the Revolver.

1656
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,640
It's a drag.
He left he he left family.

1657
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,280
He left a wife.
He left friends.

1658
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,200
And those are the people that
suffer.

1659
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,920
And it sucks.
It's, you know, it's not worth

1660
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,080
it.
You know, nothing in life is, is

1661
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,600
that difficult that you can't
find somebody to help you work

1662
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,240
through it.
So.

1663
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,600
Don't be a person, like Chris
always says, get a hold of us.

1664
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,840
If you want to hear how far down
I was, I'll tell you.

1665
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,960
You don't get it further than
that.

1666
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,520
So if we can find our way back,
that means there's light for

1667
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,360
everybody.
So please, absolutely.

1668
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,280
Absolutely.
That's twice.

1669
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,880
And so for the for the for the
original.

1670
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,920
Original.
No, wait, what?

1671
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,000
It's not the original.
What do we call the inaugural

1672
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,040
Michael Castillo Day?
I'm Chris Dunham.

1673
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,080
He's Mike Michaels.
This is the Christian Mike show.

1674
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,680
Until next time.
See you peace.

1675
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,720
Love you brother, love you
Michael.

1676
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,720
Take care of these fighters.
Finally, guys, you're on the

1677
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,400
show.
Thank you so much, Michael.

1678
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,680
That was a blast.
Yeah.

1679
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,040
Thanks guys.
Really.

1680
01:25:44,760 --> 01:26:07,680
The place where you is.
Take a moment, look until you

1681
01:26:08,080 --> 01:27:05,560
see it.
The.

1682
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:34,560
Come down here, we.
Haven't found.

1683
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:40,520
Solely in the exam from
fighting, wait for the dead,

1684
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:47,360
wait for the the wind.
You ain't no creature.

1685
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,040
We're playing smile and you
should you put it on the

1686
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,520
almighty day.
You got a dream.

1687
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:03,360
Who in your life?
The people go in every man.

1688
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,600
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul revolution now.

1689
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:18,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1690
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,680
Take a moment.
Listen to your tear.

1691
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:25,720
Fight your family.
To you.

1692
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:54,140
More clear.
You gotta, you gotta.

1693
01:28:54,820 --> 01:28:57,340
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.