Nov. 16, 2025

#150 - Unleashing the Sound of Gibson & Co: A Dive into Outlaw Country Rock

#150 - Unleashing the Sound of Gibson & Co: A Dive into Outlaw Country Rock

In this riveting conversation, the hosts Mike and Chris welcome the band Gibson & Co., exploring their unique blend of country rock and pop influences. The band discusses their formation, the importance of image and branding in the music industry, and the challenges they face with music rights and streaming.

They share insights into their recording process, the equipment they use, and their plans for live performances in the future. The conversation highlights the collaborative spirit within the band and their commitment to creating authentic music.

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And we're live.
Welcome YouTube and Twitchers.

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YouTube and Twitchers.
I don't know what they like to

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be called.
They're Twitchers.

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I really could just listen that
song all day, every day for the

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entire length of the song.
And then just, you know, we

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wrote about our, our, our, yes,
we did write that song.

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That's us.
Gibson and Co, They said that's

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us.
Like we wrote that song like 30

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years ago, man.
Watch how impressive.

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Watch how impressive this is.
We have Steve on my left and

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Adam on my right.
Welcome fellas.

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Oh, right on, right on.
I was practicing while you were

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restarting your computer.
Steve on my left, at him on my

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right.
So Gibson whoops.

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Gibson and company is live now
on Twitch.

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I'm I'm I'm sharing your photo.
All right on.

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So, so people can come on and
listen and all that kind of fun

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stuff.
We put it on our our Facebook

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page every time we have a guest.
So you know, it's all about

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making you guys more famous than
you already are because that's

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why we do this.
We have our recent guests

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reached 1.5 million views on
something.

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The other one just won an award
at the Grand old Opry, I think 2

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days ago.
And it's it's strictly because

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they come on our show.
There you go.

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We're taking full credit.
We're taking full credit, man,

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because.
They're not here to tell the

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real story.
Right, right.

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Absolutely it is so.
Awesome that that happened

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though.
Congratulations, Dave Nudo.

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Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and then we have and then

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Lamoine Alexander.
His stuff's charting like crazy.

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And again, it's all because he
comes on the Chris and Mike

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show.
There you go.

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You know, you know.
So yeah, you're for world

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domination.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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So that's why we always get
backstage passes and and VIP

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treatment when you guys explode,
because you know, we help launch

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you.
So welcome.

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Welcome to the Christian Mike
show.

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I'm Chris, He's Mike.
And as as Mike said, who were,

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who were we talking to Mike?
We have Steve on my left, Adam

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on my right.
I don't know how they look to

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you, but cowboy hat is Steve.
And there you go.

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Derby style hat is Adam.
There you go and and they are

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Gibson and they are Gibson and
Company and I love the names.

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I do too.
I you know what?

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Ironically, when we first
started chatting, I thought, I

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thought it was something
completely different than an

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actual Me too.
I, I thought you were like,

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like, I don't know, like, I
don't know, like build guitars

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or something.
Like, 'cause I get flooded with

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so many people that want to be
on the show that you know.

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So now I know that's why I asked
you before Mike showed up.

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So there's the picture of the
band.

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Can you see that?
Yes.

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Yeah, OK.
Can, can can you guys see that?

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Yeah, that's, that's what I
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That was a that was a very cool
picture.

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Go ahead.
I said that's in the other room.

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That's it's a little dim, but
that's the live room that we

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were talking about earlier.
Oh, right on, right on.

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And then we have our our Michael
Castillo day guest, Mikey

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Castillo has been joining us on
this thing since day one.

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So he just chimed in saying hi,
guys.

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Hope all is well.
So let's let's let's just dive

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in.
And yeah, I want you guys to

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kind of tell our listeners and
our viewers of 27 countries, you

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know what Gibson and Co is all
about, your music, your style,

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your brand, and then we'll just
start having a conversation from

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there.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Well, we were kind of a country
rock band, pop influence, very

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guitar driven.
And if you listen to any of the

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songs, it's all starts with good
raunchy riffs and good beats and

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all of that kind of stuff.
And yeah.

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Talking my language.
Raunchy riffs man you.

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Got me right there.
Yeah, we'll go with that one.

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And then I mean, you see the
model you comment about that

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earlier.
They live like an outlaw

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dialect, you know, and that's
kind of what we're.

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Like go for.
Rebels, you know.

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Yes, thank you.
There, Now you're talking my

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language too, even even more,
right?

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I love these guys.
Yeah, I I figured you would, you

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know?
That picture is out.

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I mean, all your photography,
whoever's doing that, all of it.

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So far, the band picture is
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It's really cool without being
cliche or overdone.

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It's whoever came up with that.
Kudos.

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Cool.
Yeah, cool, went on.

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Yeah, that's another thing.
We've got a good team.

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Everybody offers something
different and it's it just

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works.
Good chemistry.

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Well, one thing that I always
say is nobody wants to see their

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parents up on stage, right?
So I like that you all have a

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character.
It's just, it flows very well.

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I like it right?
On it's good.

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Nice.
And that's important to me.

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Chris will tell you images,
everything, man.

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Especially when we were coming
up, there was no Internet, you

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know, it was the early 90s.
We had to go out there and beat

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the streets and get people in.
And if they came in and you

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didn't have a product to offer,
right, you guys definitely have

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a product to offer.
The photography's outstanding.

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Well, that is what a lot of I
mean it's marketing, right?

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There's so absolutely everybody
is, is a great musician and

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there's, I mean, I could walk
down the street and, and, and go

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find an electrician that's a
better drummer than I am, right?

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Correct.
Right, right.

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Yeah, yeah.
Setting yourself art.

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From I always say that it's a
given that you have to be able

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to play if you're going to be in
a band for a living, right?

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If you want to do that to make
money, obviously you have to

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know how to play.
So now what's next?

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Right.
Yeah, that's right.

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Yeah.
Set yourself apart somehow.

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And you guys have definitely
done that.

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Right on.
That's cool.

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That's cool.
Very cool.

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Yeah.
Thank you.

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Yeah, you guys keep talking.
I'm just sharing.

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I can't believe Chris has not
asked Steve, where are you from?

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Carry on.
You're from where?

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I'm from new Newcastle, England.
OK.

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Oh, right on.
Yeah, very cool.

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Aaron yen moved to moved to
Canada 19 years ago now so.

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I love, I love the accent, man.
Where are you guys at in Canada?

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Saskatchewan.
Right in the middle.

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Oh, right on.
Yeah.

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I'm going to play Chris's
drinking game and talk to me

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about The Tragically Hip real
quick.

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Oh well.
I love those guys, man.

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Yeah.
Yeah, again, raunchy riffs.

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Yeah.
Thank you.

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So is that how you would
describe your music?

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Kind of like straight ahead
rock'n'roll with A twist.

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I would say like outlaw country,
kind of.

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Yeah, outlaw country is the best
you can come up with.

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Or outlaw rock or something,
something like that.

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I know what you're talking about
and I really like that a lot.

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I.
Love the logo?

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It doesn't fit.
It doesn't fit like country,

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like pure Nashville country.
It doesn't work raw.

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It's not straight rock.
It's not pop.

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Although some of the melodies
are like they're really catchy

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and the songs are well, hooked.
That's the the songwriters do

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that.
So they got good sensibilities

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there.
So yeah.

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And then we just add, like, you
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Courtney, she adds.
You know, banjo, mandolin.

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Yeah.
Awesome.

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Bluegrass elements, but it's not
bluegrass because it's some

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black and all the things.
So real bluegrass people would

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be really upset.
But we we just like the sounds

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and the textures and the layers
and it just sort of fits

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together.
And so she's.

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Playing that style within your
guys's style of kind of southern

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rock, country, Blues, that's so
cool man.

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I'm going to be a fan for sure.
I I have not heard your music

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yet, but I'm excited about
hearing it.

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And then a lot of this picture,
oh, the amp wall there.

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Yeah, I like the amp wall man.
Obviously, I do too.

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Yeah, yeah.
Now, now studio wise, go back

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one.
Are you recording in Canada?

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Yeah.
They're in their studio right

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now.
Oh.

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Yeah.
Oh, OK, that's right.

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This is the other side of that
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Oh, oh, yeah, right on.
I just, I just put that

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together.
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Yeah, that's what I'm looking at
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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's cool.

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Yeah, that we're in and you can
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glass over into the live room
over there, so.

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Very cool.
Couple of different couple of

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different rooms, yeah.
Nice.

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Now is this a home studio or is
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travel to so.
This is my home studio.

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Right on.
Wow.

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I built it onto the side of my
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Right on.
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I need to step up my game man.
Yeah, come and come and join me

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in debt.
Yeah, right.

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Right, right.
True story.

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So how long have you guys been a
band?

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I think you've been to get to
see.

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I'm going to start doing my my
Scottish accent now because it's

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just, it's just, it's just
weighs on me.

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Or race player with here as
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Roger in in some of those photos
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He's from New Zealand.
So we just have an absolute

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operea.
Ridiculous.

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Not the nation.
Right on.

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We've got all kinds of accents
going on.

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That's fantastic.
I don't know how to say words

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anymore.
Oh dear.

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How long have we been a band?
Yeah.

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It's it's funny that actually
because like they started years

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ago, like we did, the studio is
actually a good conversation

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because I worked in, well, I
work in construction and Adam we

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recording his living room
upstairs, same as what you've

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got going on.
Just put the curtains down, tell

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the kids to be quiet and we're
recorded in the living room.

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And then you build this, this
control room.

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This was the main studio.
This was everything, everything

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squished into this one room.
Drums and guitars.

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Everything.
Yeah, Down.

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There, fellas.
Yeah.

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And then, and then Adam phoned
me one day and he says I'm going

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to put an addition on the House.
Could you bring a a tracker

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around?
So I've like I'm a heavy

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equipment operator and a truck
driver.

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So I loaded the big excavator on
the on the low bed, drove it

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right down his St. here and
started knocking his garage down

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and digging a hole.
And he built the addition

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because he's a Carpenter and he
built the upstairs of the house,

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the big studio and everything.
And it just kind of built from

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there.
And then you've been recording

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and playing and.
We yeah.

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So we've recorded.
We like I was in other bands,

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Steve was in other bands and you
know, we would just get together

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for random things.
You know, I'd have Steve come in

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and do some some session stuff
with guitars for other projects

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that I was working on.
I record music for for syncs as

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well.
So I've got.

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Explain that real quick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So syncs is like anytime you
you're recording music for

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commercial purposes like TV
commercials, movies, those types

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of things where it's.
Is that your publisher?

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Yeah.
So yeah.

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OK.
That would be like our BMI or

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our ASCAP.
That's Apro.

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So a publisher is going to be
taking your songs and actually

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selling them to music directors
that work at network studios and

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stuff.
I've had songs play on like NBC

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and and a bunch of Canadian
networks and no, he'll know, but

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that are big up here and stuff
as well.

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So, so publisher is going to get
you the placements in in those

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types of things.
And then your PR OS are going to

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are going to collect based on
how many spins right, that you

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get.
But but I write music for for

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that.
Don't have Steve come in and and

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do session work and whatever I
needed for whatever project.

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And then we ended up, I mean,
we, we were working on a bunch

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of music, just a lot of solo
stuff.

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And I talked to my publisher and
I sent him some demos of some of

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this, some of the stuff for, for
Gibson and Co.

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And that he was, they were very
excited, we'll just say.

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And they commissioned the whole
album sight unseen, just on I

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think 2 demos.
I, I sent them and they said,

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yeah, 10 songs.
Now we want it.

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I want to push this so, so
that's kind of how it started

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it.
It wasn't like we didn't set out

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to become a band.
We were musicians that we, you

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know, we always, we were in
multiple bands, but then it sort

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of came.
It's a little flip-flopped.

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You know, normally people are a
band and then they'll find a

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publisher at some point if if
they're so lucky.

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We were just the opposite.
We had a publisher and and then

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we became a band.
Yeah, that's cool.

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I have your video ghost playing
in the background.

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It's silent, obviously, because
I don't want to drown your

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conversation out.
But I dig.

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I dig the fill of a video if.
That kind of I was totally

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listening to your story, and
that's awesome.

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And then I was transfixed on
this video that's playing too,

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because I love your look, man.
Yeah, you guys nailed it.

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Look at that.
They're doing a little a little

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band jam right there.
You got the banjo going.

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Yeah.
That's that's cool.

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Now, now let's talk about the
video.

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Is this something you guys came
up with or did you have somebody

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else come in and kind of give
you the artist direction?

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This is what we're going to do.
This is how we're going to, you

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know, storyboard this whole
thing.

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No, we did all of it.
We storyboarded everything, got

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the venue.
Yeah, we've got a very close

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friend.
Well, I guess he's your family.

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Yeah.
Who's my videographer and.

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Use the photos as well.
So we do everything within our

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team.
It's all done in house well.

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Kudos to all of those people.
And yeah, specifically the

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photographer and the
videographer, because you can

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screw that up so easy.
The lighting has to be right.

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All this stuff is just so very
well done.

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He's very anal about lighting,
yeah.

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Well, what the good thing about
that is though, you guys, you

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guys control your stuff, which
is good, which which, you know,

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especially this day and age,
right.

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Yeah, it's.
Nice to have.

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I mean, you feel connected to
with the project and then I

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don't know, everybody feels like
they like they have something

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that they're contributing to the
overall.

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Yeah, product, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely every everybody cares
about the end result.

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You know, it's not just a job,
it's not just pushing, pushing

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out and getting paid.
It's they like, like I said,

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family.
It's like a family.

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Like it's it's where.
A.

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Group we we play together, we
work together, we drink

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together.
We, you know, it's good.

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It's fun.
No question, you know you, you

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share all the same life
experiences.

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Exactly how?
So where are you?

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Where's everybody from?
Like you?

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We got New Zealand, we got
Canada.

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Is it, is it just a barrage of
locations?

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England.
OK, that's right.

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England, yeah.
Yeah.

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Yeah, Roger was he?
He was, yeah.

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He's from New Zealand.
You're from Newcastle,

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Courtney's from Manitoba, I'm
from Saskatchewan, Joel's from

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Me and Joel are kind of from
around this area here in

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Saskatchewan.
OK.

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Is that?
Everyone.

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That's everyone.
Do you have any more members?

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Yeah, Hiding, I guess.
PR the video from South Africa.

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South Africa.
Yeah.

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Oh, this This video is in South
Africa.

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No, no videographers from South
Africa.

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Oh.
OK, OK.

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This is very much Saskatchewan.
Yeah, this is like 10 Mile Rd.

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kind of thing.
That just yeah, that scream.

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Saskatchewan there, hey.
And this is moonshine.

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Yeah, yeah, right.
That's the last thing that went

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out.
Yeah.

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Radio Car.
This video only come out like 2

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weeks ago I think.
Oh cool.

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Yeah, pretty new.
Yeah, right.

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On So you guys are getting radio
play like across Canada then,

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yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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Don't play too much of that or
we'll get pulled.

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I know, I know, I know.
I got.

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Just get a royalty for it, it's
fine.

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But no, dude, we can shut down,
man, when we try to showcase

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bands like this and try to show
you your music.

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Yeah, YouTube.
Here's a quick.

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Example, we had a guy named Joe
Altier on here and Joe,

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hopefully you get an e-mail and
you can sign off on it.

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But Spotify sent me a cease and
desist and then I sent them an

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explanation.
I had to do an appeal that's

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going to go to Joe's publisher
who's got to get in contact with

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him.
And I'm sure it's going to be

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fine because he was on the show.
But that's the process.

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Even though you guys are sitting
here saying it's OK, your

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publisher doesn't say it's OK
and neither does YouTube.

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Well, thanks APM.
Yeah, and.

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No, right.
But it's messed up because.

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Just take your take your
royalty, yeah.

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But but, but think, but think
about it.

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OK, so we're in 27 countries and
when we do the show right now,

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we're live.
OK, so we're live.

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Right.
We're not monetized either.

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Right, right.
So all those, all those

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countries that could be watching
us right now, we could be

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showcasing your music and
driving them to go to your

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YouTube channel, go to Spotify,
go to Apple Music, wherever and

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buy your stuff, right?
That's the whole point.

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Like in our musicians, we, you
know, we were in a band, all

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that kind of jazz, we had
development deals with labels,

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everything.
So we've been there, done that.

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So it's, you know, it's the
brotherhood of music.

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We're sitting here talking to
you guys.

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So our whole thing is let's
let's help push these bands out

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to the forefront.
Let's help promote them, let's

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help them.
Like we, we have a label that

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just feeds us artists now
because they like how we do

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this, but it sucks because every
time we'll play a song or do

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anything that's that's music
related and we allow that to

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bleed through the, the show, we
get shut down.

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Like YouTube will block that
content.

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They'll they'll erase it.
I've appealed stuff too and it's

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come back and they're just like
middle finger not going to

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happen.
It's it's ridiculous because all

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we're doing is pushing you out.
We're we're pumping you up and.

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So what we need and our
responsibility in this is we

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need a middle man between your
publisher and us, just like you

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have your publisher to protect
your music.

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I'm a ASCAT member myself, so I
understand.

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I want to get paid as well.
But what we need, Chris and I,

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is a middle man between you and
your publisher to Duke it out

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behind the scenes before that
ever happens.

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So you get your money, we get
our money and everybody's happy.

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Because where our situation is a
little different, usually

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publishers quite often are, are
just doing, they're doing

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commercial music, they're
working with composers, not

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artists and bands.
So we have a, a deal where like

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they, their, their realm is
anything that's sync license

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related.
And then anything that we do as

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far as like, you know, radio
and, and Spotify and all that

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stuff is all controlled by us as
the artists.

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So they don't actually like,
they don't do any of the

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streaming stuff.
They don't do any of the YouTube

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Music.
They don't do any of that kind

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of stuff.
That's us.

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So in your case, you might be a
great test example of what Chris

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was just talking about.
So that little bit of music that

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he played will probably be
enough to trigger something.

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When he sends you an appeal,
it's going to come right to you

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so you guys can communicate
through text or whatever.

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Let's I would be curious to see
how this plays out.

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Interesting because.
Actually play another one of

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their.
Songs just so that's what I was

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going to do.
That's no, I was that's exactly

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I'm going to go back.
I'm going to go back to the

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page.
Hold on.

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And I'm glad, thank you, Adam,
for explaining that because you

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could see it wasn't going
through my thick skull that you

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are controlling your own stuff.
So thank you for pushing that

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through.
How you Otherwise we wouldn't be

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allowed to use our music in that
video for example.

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The publisher has nothing to do
with that video being OK.

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OK there we go they will make
money off of it.

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Aren't they getting their lit?
Their portion and we want you to

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make money and we want to make
money.

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We want to make everybody happy.
We just trying to do the right

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thing, like Chris said, is
getting us flagged all the time.

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Well, let's let it RIP.
Yeah, so here.

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So here's, so here's so so let's
watch about 15 seconds of

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moonshine so we can have it just
on the on the clip and see what

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happens.
Yeah.

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Go through.
Go through the chorus.

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Turn it up a little bit.
OK.

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We like the planes and a raging
fire.

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We light it up, make the noise
if you make the moon shine.

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Singing right along to a radio
song That I can change you.

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Every kiss I'm stealing from
your lips.

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The sun has been out on fire in
the sky.

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Bill Gates down and the nights
coming alive like sun goes back

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in time baby.
They're making his story like a

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planes in a raging fire.
We lighted up like gasoline.

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Times are coming up.
I like it, Singer.

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This is on the guitar solo, man,
Did you see how quick that

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happened?
Did you see how quick that

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happened?
I wasn't I?

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Wasn't intentionally dissing on
the guitar sole.

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I just, I just wanted, I wanted
to go.

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Guys playing his heart out and
you're looking at.

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Him.
There you go.

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There you go.
There you go.

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I love this guy.
It wasn't a purpose, man.

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I know man.
I dig it though.

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I dig it.
I like it, man.

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That's the one of the things
that Mike and I like to do.

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We don't we we don't really like
to to researchers come on the

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show because we want everything
to be real, raw and organic.

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So the reactions that we're
having is legit reactions.

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This is the first time we're
hearing the music, which to me

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now you're all on Apple Podcast,
Spotify, all that kind of stuff,

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right?
Or not Apple Podcast, but iTunes

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and stuff.
Yeah, all those.

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Things cool, cool.
So you're going to see some

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purchases in Arizona, man,
because because I like it and I

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don't fuck around with just one
song.

455
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,680
I'll buy the album because I'm
that guy, because I'd rather be

456
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,360
able to to get the whole album
because the little Nuggets,

457
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,520
right, You only released a few
songs and and you end up finding

458
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760
some really cool music if you
buy the whole album.

459
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,680
At least I found that way.
So I like, I like buying the

460
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,520
whole thing and checking it out
and say, OK, cool, you know, and

461
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,920
you just kind of go from there.
So.

462
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,000
I like you guys a sound a lot,
man.

463
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,760
Very cool.
Yeah.

464
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,200
Yeah.
So yeah, for sure you could tell

465
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,200
Steve's duty or heavy machinery
operator.

466
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,160
Yeah.
Is that what I was going to ask?

467
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Who's the response for the stuff
in the background?

468
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,040
Whose truck was that?
And all, all them hoes in the

469
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,520
house in the back there.
Yeah.

470
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,600
I was just like, Yep, I'm
setting these up, yeah.

471
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,880
That's right on.
I figured it was, it was

472
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,720
personal.
You know how somehow you knew

473
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720
somebody had the, the, the back
hose in the in the truck in the

474
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,640
distance with the lights on and
shit like that.

475
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,480
So that's.
Literally.

476
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,680
Yeah, the video was outstanding.
Crushes rocking, crushing,

477
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,600
rocking it and then.
We set up.

478
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,360
And then we set up and then it
rained right before so.

479
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,320
Right.
Oh, that's perfect.

480
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Absolutely.
It's perfect that it rained

481
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,920
before.
There's nothing wrong with that.

482
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,560
Yeah, the drums were sinking
into the slowly outside.

483
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,720
Really.
No shit.

484
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,840
It was super.
That's that's fantastic, man.

485
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,760
Yeah.
So here's a little bit more

486
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,440
about the bandage you guys are
talking for the those of you and

487
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,640
us.
I like the, I like the word

488
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,640
stellar.
Good job.

489
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,160
I like saying stellar all the
time.

490
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,360
So I appreciate you have stellar
musicians in there.

491
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,080
One of my favorite words as
well.

492
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,440
Right on Stellar.
Stellar, even.

493
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,080
Noticed that before.
You're the drum, Adam.

494
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,440
Yeah, I am.
Yeah.

495
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,600
How long have you been playing
drums?

496
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,120
Oh boy.
The 20, the 2030.

497
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Thirty years, maybe.
What's your kid?

498
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,760
So it's a a sort of a
Frankenstein's monster at this

499
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,160
point of, of drums.
I love it.

500
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120
I actually have a set of, you
know, the company D drum.

501
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,480
Oh yeah, yeah.
OK, so I bought a set of ash D

502
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,560
drum shells back in like 2000.
I.

503
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,120
Love ash.
My favorite guitar is made out

504
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,760
of swamp ash.
Oh, nice.

505
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,600
So I bought these shells and
this was back when D drum was

506
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200
like they they're better now,
like they've gone through some

507
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,880
company changes, but this was
back before they had quality

508
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,680
control and so they were were
really horrible.

509
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,560
The bearing edges were all over
the place and Long story short,

510
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,640
I learned to like regrind edges
and and do a bunch of work on

511
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760
shells.
And so I, I, I did a ton of work

512
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,920
to get the, the the bearing
edges just how I wanted them.

513
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,440
Made them a little bit more
rounded over like Ludwigs drums,

514
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,160
a little bit more than the sharp
this is.

515
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,800
If any drummers are listening,
they'll appreciate this.

516
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,440
You guys, maybe not.
I know what you're talking about

517
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320
for sure.
Yeah, so it activates a little

518
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,360
bit more the ash shell with the
rounder.

519
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,040
There's a little bit more
contact surface on the on on the

520
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280
on the brains.
So anyway, I I did a bunch of

521
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,240
work on the shells to make them
sound really good.

522
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,920
And my kick is is huge.
If you saw in that video, it's a

523
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,640
24 by 20.
That's.

524
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Why?
I was asking about your kit for

525
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,720
sure.
Absolute cannon.

526
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,600
So yeah.
So that's that's what I use for

527
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,840
my, my shells, just one up, one
down.

528
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,240
And then I use my main snare
that I use is a is a Tama and

529
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,160
it's it's a 6 1/2 by 14 and it's
a a walnut.

530
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,440
So it's a yeah, it's just a nice
absolute shotgun of a of a

531
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320
snare.
And I put like, yeah, and I put

532
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,240
like those like 24 band or 24
string snares on the bottom,

533
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,200
real snappy, sizzly, because I
like that big.

534
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,880
You'll hear it in the recording.
Big shotgun, massive snare.

535
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,640
That's why I'm asking these
questions.

536
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480
I've recorded a lot of really
good drums and a lot of really

537
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,840
bad drums.
Mino visance symbols I'm I'm a

538
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,720
fan of Minos except for my I've
got a crope Zilchen ride with a

539
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240
really tiny bell which is real
washy and.

540
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680
That's what I like to.
I hate that Ting Ting.

541
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,680
I secretly wanted to be a
drummer.

542
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,360
So then I just started kind of
asking my drummer to do all

543
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,080
these things that I heard in my
head that he wanted to do

544
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,120
anyway.
Like he always laughed and said,

545
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,240
you're the first guitar player
that ever asked me to play

546
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,440
harder and more, right?
I'm like, yeah, but I, I wanted

547
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,360
to be a drummer.
Yeah, that's awesome.

548
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440
But my wanting to do so and my
ability for.

549
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Different, I've got a few
different iterations that

550
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,880
depending on what I'm recording
in the studio, I'll I'll break

551
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,120
out, but that's kind of my,
that's my go to.

552
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,400
I love the sound and the feel of
it so.

553
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,880
And for Steve, the Telecaster
was my favorite in that first

554
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,520
video that we were watching
without sound.

555
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,480
That telly is bad ass dude.
Yeah, 62 Bigsby.

556
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,080
Yeah.
Beautiful.

557
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Yeah.
Just the the top, the finish,

558
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,480
it's it stands out.
There was a couple times I was

559
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,560
fixated on that while Adam was
talking.

560
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080
I'm not going to lie.
I think the three.

561
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Tom Sunburst, Yeah.
Me too, yeah.

562
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640
It just screams.
You better be a good player,

563
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
which you are.
You know, if you're if, if

564
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,040
you're going to manhandle that
thing, you better be able to

565
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,000
make it sing.
And you definitely do that for

566
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,920
sure.
Nice.

567
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Thank you.
What are you looking at back

568
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
there?
I'm, I'm, I'm dropping a review

569
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880
for Gibson and company on their
on their Facebook page because I

570
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,000
only have two and, and now that
we've talked to them and

571
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,400
listened to their music, I can,
I can honestly do a badass

572
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,720
review for them.
Yeah, I like.

573
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Keep talking.
I like that organic too, man.

574
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,760
I'm, I'm sorry I didn't listen.
I liked you guys on Facebook and

575
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960
you were one of the ones that I
was like, I got to go back and

576
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
check those guys out because I
liked your logo.

577
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,600
I liked your sound or not your
sound.

578
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,760
I liked your look and your logo
of, you know, with the skull in

579
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,640
the background.
And I just like Chris said, we'd

580
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
started getting inundated with
people that wanted to be on the

581
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,160
show somewhere around June.
And probably that's about the

582
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,080
time that I liked you guys on
Facebook and then ended up

583
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,280
getting in contact with you.
And I just never heard your

584
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,080
music.
So it's really cool to hear it

585
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,240
while you guys are here because
you're getting an honest

586
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,480
reaction.
Yeah.

587
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Yeah, we would tell you if it
sucked.

588
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,040
I never lied a.
Musician.

589
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000
I just don't.
I would, I'd say, you know, I

590
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,120
mean.
Good luck sounds.

591
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Good, I like it.
Well, I'm glad that you picked

592
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,560
up on that for sure, because one
of the things that you in like

593
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,680
that I do in the studio is I, I
never, I never use loops.

594
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,120
I never use other people's
samples.

595
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Anytime I'm doing synth work, I,
I don't just cycle through

596
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:36,120
presets.
I build a, I build a sound for

597
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,720
that every single time.
Like if, yeah, if, if we need

598
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560
one of the, oh, maybe not ours,
but for collect assembly.

599
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,480
We're in another band as well.
You know, we have this real

600
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320
spaghetti western kind of thing
going on and we wanted a whip

601
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:58,200
craft and we got a whip.
Found somebody that we lent us a

602
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,640
bull whip and we took it outside
and strung a microphone out into

603
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,320
the backyard.
YouTube how to crack a whip

604
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,400
because we were almost killing
ourselves every time and there's

605
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920
a real technique to it.
Honestly, the people that do it,

606
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080
it's impressive, but we had,
yeah, we figured out how to

607
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080
crack a whip and we recorded
ourselves cracking a whip

608
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,600
instead of just downloading this
I.

609
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,560
Love it.
That's yeah.

610
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800
Everything is maybe you make you
made me think of Devo man, crack

611
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,080
that whip.
Even that even thought I.

612
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,000
Just I just dated myself, right?
No, I was with you.

613
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,480
OK.
OK.

614
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,880
How old are you guys?
Oh, I am 37, I believe, Yeah.

615
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360
OK.
Oh, you're young man, 40.

616
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Yeah. 05250. 5555 Gen.
X.

617
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Yeah, there you go.
Gen.

618
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840
X yeah brother fucking a man.
Rock'n'roll.

619
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
That's the fucking lutely.
We're we've talked about it

620
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720
before.
We're the generation that that

621
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,280
actually, when you saw the band
live was the first time you

622
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960
actually saw them live.
Like you didn't have the social

623
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,400
media.
All you had was the vinyl jacket

624
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,640
or the cassette tape, you know,
jacket and you could kind of

625
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520
like, oh, or in the magazines,
the hip Raiders and all that

626
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,920
shit.
Then when you actually saw them

627
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360
live, it was like one of those
moments where, you know, the

628
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,520
lights go down and, and the
energy, you can feel it in the

629
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,080
crowd.
Everybody's like rising to their

630
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,640
seats.
They start cheering and, you

631
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,480
know, lights come on.
Oh, there's the band.

632
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200
And it's just like.
What?

633
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,280
And everyone was watching you
and not.

634
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Yes, yes, for.
Sure.

635
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Yeah, I wish I had a lighter
because that's what you saw was

636
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,520
lighter, right.
And I, I don't think Chris,

637
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,160
there you go.
You saw 10,000 of those.

638
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Yeah, yeah.
And the cool thing, like I guess

639
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800
until you said that, man, I just
never thought about this.

640
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Like, so him and I are from that
generation and you guys are from

641
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800
the next generation.
That was that just That's never

642
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520
going to happen for anybody
younger than us, you know?

643
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Right.
No, the millennial generation

644
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,400
was the one that was in between.
So some, you know, you had some

645
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000
analog and some digital so.
I would put you guys in the same

646
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,200
generation as us as millennials,
only because you really couldn't

647
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,200
download very much quality video
back then, you know?

648
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Definitely not in Saskatchewan
either.

649
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Not here either, trust me.
We were still like, yeah.

650
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,920
But Netflix was mailing out DVDs
in the early 2000s, so the

651
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Internet was not ready for
streaming, no.

652
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Yeah, for sure.
If you were watching porn, it

653
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120
took you like 1/2 hour to get a
2 minute download.

654
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,360
I'm gonna go take a shower and
make a steak and I'll be back in

655
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,560
my video.
I'll be ready at that.

656
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Point you're on the mood anymore
Exactly.

657
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,160
You know, there's something more
productive.

658
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,840
I go play my guitar.
Play guitar.

659
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,560
That's funny.
Where's this at?

660
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,120
This was in my hometown, well,
where I live now, Theatre

661
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Saskatchewan.
It's just, that's another thing

662
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,360
why the studio worked so well.
It's 5 minutes down the road for

663
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,199
me.
That's very convenient.

664
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,880
So yeah.
So we this was like our debut

665
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,000
show when word got out there we
were starting a new band.

666
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,120
So.
Yeah, this was the first, the

667
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,320
first hometown, hometown show
kind of CD release party thing

668
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,560
that we did.
How many people did you get to

669
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,120
come out to that?
A small town, maybe What, 400?

670
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,159
This is not bad.
It's in the town that's good.

671
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,679
For a small town, yeah.
Yeah.

672
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Town has like 500 people in it.
Yeah, exactly.

673
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,040
That's why I asked the question,
because I'm I'm from a way

674
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,199
bigger town than that, but
relatively small, like 1012

675
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,880
thousand people.
OK, Yeah.

676
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,800
Yeah, when we would have one or
two local bands, if we were

677
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,040
lucky enough at the time when I
was a kid growing up, you would

678
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,960
easily get a couple 100 people.
Mm, hmm, yeah.

679
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,160
On a Saturday night, 2300 kids
would show up.

680
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,760
Yeah.
Yeah, and by kids, I mean

681
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,320
teenagers.
Yeah, yeah.

682
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,600
Just want the party.
Hopefully the.

683
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,640
Yeah.
Just with a little bit of

684
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,760
spendable income.
Right.

685
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:16,160
We sold.
Them.

686
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,360
So how many albums?
How many albums?

687
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,520
How many albums do you guys
have?

688
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Or this one, just one for
Gibson.

689
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,000
OK.
Just for Gibson Company 1 and

690
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
that's ghost.
And ghost, yeah.

691
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,040
I like the name.
And and that came out when?

692
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,200
And well, what?
How do I answer that?

693
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,680
It's not technically Oh.
Yeah, March.

694
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Oh.
OK.

695
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,240
Oh, OK, OK.
It's it's out by our publisher,

696
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,000
so it's getting like, so I think
what was it one of the songs on

697
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,720
it?
What's your excuse if you are

698
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:50,880
listening back in like August or
something?

699
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,240
It played on some like Yankees
games and stuff on MLB.

700
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Not so like, like, so it's it's
it's out.

701
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,720
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, it's it's out.

702
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,840
But it's not like we haven't
released it.

703
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,880
So we're slow rolling like the
digital releases and kind of put

704
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,360
in the loop the time and at
least to kind of, you know, get

705
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,560
some music videos together and
stuff and sort of, I don't know,

706
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,720
we're playing with it a little
bit.

707
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,720
Yeah, it is.
It's out and not at the same

708
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,280
time.
So so when I so but when I, when

709
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,040
I go to iTunes and I look you
up, what am I gonna be able to

710
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,360
buy?
Am I gonna buy the whole album

711
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,000
as a pre-order and just get a
couple of the singles that are

712
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,760
released or what?
That's a good question.

713
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Yeah, I don't think.
Find out.

714
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Oh, he beat me to it.

715
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,800
I was gonna do it too.
Definitely find out and tell and

716
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440
tell us what we should be doing.
OK, I will.

717
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,200
I will.
I will.

718
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,720
Because we got we got Dave
Nudo's marketing manager to have

719
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,480
him rerecord his, his fucking
amazing song on the Lord of the

720
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,240
Devil.
Yeah.

721
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,760
You guys recommend that for
sure.

722
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
You should write this down.
Write this down.

723
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,720
Dave Nudo, the Lord of the
Devil.

724
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,840
Trust.
NUDO nudo.

725
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Yeah, you will be like, why
isn't this guy out in

726
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,920
mainstream?
You it'll be you'll it'll blow

727
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,680
your mind.
I mean that listen to this song

728
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,200
is.
I've listened to it, I'm not

729
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,240
shitting you, at least 200
times.

730
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,280
And he was on the pod like a
month ago.

731
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Is that Lord, Lord.
Just any the Lord, Lord of the

732
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,840
devil, The Lord of the devil,
dude, it's I'm telling you.

733
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,440
Oh.
I'll check it out.

734
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520
And we're going to find one of
those songs that does that for

735
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,320
us, of you guys, and we'll never
shut up about that one.

736
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640
So that's just how these things
work, yeah.

737
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,320
Yeah, in fact.
In fact, I picked that song when

738
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,640
I pulled him up on the show
because I like the title.

739
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Oh yeah.
Right.

740
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,280
So, so kind of like kind of like
some of your stuff, like right

741
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,920
here.
Like I love the moonshine.

742
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600
And it was a cool visual
backdrop, him with his back to

743
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160
the scene with a cowboy hat and
a long trench coat on.

744
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,120
Very.
Cool.

745
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Yeah, but but for Moonshine and
Ghost, I like right away

746
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Moonshine, especially now that
we listen to the song a little

747
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,200
bit on on the channel, YouTube
channel, you automatically think

748
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
it's about Moonshine, but it's
not about Moonshine, which is

749
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,440
which is clever on your part.
It's a very good play of words.

750
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,560
Twist in there, love.
That, Yeah, total twist in

751
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,280
there.
So moonshine's on here.

752
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Gibson and Co Moonshine's on
here.

753
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,400
From an album standpoint, that's
the single.

754
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,880
Yeah.
It's just, it's just moon sign.

755
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,080
Ghost this rain.
Ghost is there.

756
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Ghost is there.
This is who I am.

757
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Is that you guys?
Crazy life.

758
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,160
The rain, this rain, I'm sorry,
this rain.

759
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,560
So now just a now just this will
this will kind of I don't know

760
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,200
if you like this or not, but
you're you're wrapped up.

761
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,480
You're looped in with Waylon and
Willie when I pull it up.

762
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,200
How can that I typed in Gibson
Co.

763
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,600
I don't know.
It's not bad Waylands man, but

764
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,120
right away Gibson Co you have
you have your moonshine signals.

765
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,640
The third one down hires the
second one, which I don't think

766
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
is you guys, that's Chris
Stapleton.

767
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,280
Tom Petty's greatest hits comes
up and higher than Stapleton

768
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,040
than you guys, which is weird.
So but you had the the moonshine

769
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600
the did.
You mean Chris Stapleton when

770
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,400
you typed in?
Yeah, yeah.

771
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:08,760
No, I didn't.
I didn't.

772
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,360
I just typed in Gibson, a
company man.

773
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Maybe you meant?
He's just telling you who's all

774
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,920
around you when you.
Come up.

775
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Who's around you guys?
Yeah.

776
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,520
So it's kind of, it's kind of
cool that you come up with you.

777
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,920
Guys, same with algorithm with
all those other artists, right?

778
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Right.
So if somebody's going to type

779
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Chris Stapleton, for whatever
reason, you guys popped up, so

780
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,520
does Waylon and Willie.
Four of your songs are here, but

781
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,200
then you have these other things
that pop up.

782
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Brooks and Dunn's on there.
I speak his language.

783
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,480
That was his way of answering
your question.

784
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,720
Yeah, yeah, it's a trip.
I don't know if you see it, but

785
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000
it legit.
It legit gives you gives you

786
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,080
ties you in with those with
those artists, which is pretty

787
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,400
bad ass, Yeah.
Rubbing elbows, that is.

788
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Company.

789
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,080
Nice without even realizing it,
man.

790
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Yeah.
Well, thank you.

791
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,480
Yeah.
Well, it's well deserved, man.

792
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,320
You guys put forth, the people
don't realize how much work goes

793
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,400
into all of what we have just
talked about for the last 40

794
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,440
minutes.
You know, this is years of all

795
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,240
of our lives talking about
music.

796
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,000
Yeah, Yeah.
So.

797
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Kudos, man.
It's all well deserved.

798
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520
You guys put together a great
product.

799
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,600
I'll buy it.
Chris is gonna buy it.

800
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,760
I mean, we, we wouldn't do that
if we didn't like it.

801
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,760
You know, I'm not gonna add
something to my playlist.

802
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,120
It's gonna cause me grief.
I love music too much.

803
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Yeah.
We greatly appreciate that.

804
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Thank you.
Well, you got great guitar tone.

805
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Like I asked about his drums
because I really like the sound

806
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
of his drums on the recording.
So I'm like, this guy's got to

807
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,760
have something other than just.
I went to Guitar Center and I

808
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,120
bought a fucking drum set.
You.

809
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Know right?
That's a that's a custom built

810
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,160
weird nonsense kit, yeah.
I'm getting ready to have my own

811
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,840
fuck finally custom built guitar
for the first time so I'm super

812
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,200
excited about that.
But that swamp ash guitar I have

813
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,320
was a Charvel STX Custom.
There's something about that

814
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,560
wood that you found in the drums
that I found in my guitar that

815
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,400
you just don't find in other
woods, man, It's just so unique.

816
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,840
It's a very mid range, but it's
got balls and the high end is

817
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,720
it's shimmering enough without
being piercing.

818
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,680
You know, there's so many things
that are important that we're

819
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,800
nerding out on talking about
instruments, but these things

820
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,960
are what give people the final
product that they're hearing,

821
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,760
right?
That's important to us, that.

822
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,600
And a lot of.
Deliver I.

823
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,920
Was going to say like jumping on
the back of that too.

824
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,600
A lot of it too.
As a musician, if that's what is

825
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,480
inspiring you, you're going to
perform better using that.

826
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,120
You're going to like there's
going to be something there.

827
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,680
That's that's why I like to do
everything analog if I can.

828
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,040
I don't use amp Sims.
I use a real amp with real

829
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,760
guitar pedals.
We will reamp guitars and we'll

830
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,360
we'll make sure that it's coming
through a actual speaker and

831
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,480
microphone because there's
something that you get as a

832
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,880
performer when you're singing
into a good microphone, into a

833
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,320
good.
Is it, is it the color on its

834
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,760
own?
Can you do something with

835
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,640
something different?
You know, I've seen lots of

836
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,320
people in the mix, you know, app
SIM compares to a real amp and

837
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,440
it's like once it's buried and
there's 1000 layers, yeah, you

838
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,840
probably can't tell when the
song is 3 minutes long and it's

839
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,640
over and done.
But yeah, but there's something

840
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,320
that you get as a as a performer
out of it and I all of those

841
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:42,560
little things make for what you
astutely hear as an organic

842
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,240
sound.
It sounds like a real human

843
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,760
played it with a real
instrument.

844
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,320
And it's yeah, 1000 little
things that go into making the

845
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,640
whole album sound like that.
And I think that's super

846
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,080
important.
You're you're spot on 100%.

847
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,360
Well, I was just in so many
situations where I'd actually be

848
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,560
arguing, you know, I got when
Chris left Nemesis, it

849
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,920
eventually dissolved and I
formed other bands and he formed

850
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,480
other bands.
But I never had that situation

851
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,920
again where it was all for one
and one for all, right?

852
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,800
There was no egos there.
It was all about what's best for

853
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,440
the band, what's best for the
song.

854
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,880
And I'd be sitting in these
situations where they'd be like,

855
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,960
what do you mean you can't play
without your sound, man?

856
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,560
You know, it's like we're
recording here.

857
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,280
There's a difference between I
could get up on stage and fake

858
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,520
this right now with this piece
of shit setup you have here, but

859
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,880
I can't do it in a recording,
you know?

860
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I got to feel the

861
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,680
air coming out of the speakers,
even if it's in my headphones,

862
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,080
right?
Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah.

863
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Why not make it so that the
artist plays to their absolute

864
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,480
best and is the most inspired to
give the best performance

865
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,480
possible?
Like, why would you stand in the

866
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,240
way of that?
That's.

867
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,360
Great.
When I got in those arguments,

868
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680
I'd be like.
Producer, that's my whole thing.

869
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Bring in whatever it is you need
to feel like.

870
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,880
My job then when I engineer it
also because I just double,

871
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,160
double duty it, right?
But my job then is to make sure

872
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,240
I can capture that performance
the best.

873
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,320
That's my job.
Your job is to be an artist and

874
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,400
come in.
I need a good performance ID, so

875
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,160
whatever it takes, yeah.
Usually I would end those

876
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,160
arguments by saying and if you
can do it, go play it.

877
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,800
Yeah, I can't.
I can't do it, and I'm pretty

878
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,160
sure you can't either.
So can we come to some kind of

879
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,320
compromise?
Just a point so.

880
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,880
What's on What's on the horizon
for Gibson and company?

881
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Well, we've been pushing the
pushing the radio a lot like

882
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,960
trying to get radio time for the
for the singles.

883
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,480
But in the new year, we're going
to start focus on what on my

884
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,400
live show.
We're going to hit the road and

885
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,400
start focusing on on live live
again.

886
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,640
So yeah.
Do you have any dates set up

887
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,360
yet?
Not yet, nothing yet.

888
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,200
We're putting together, putting
together a few, a few things,

889
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
some different packages as well
because we also do live

890
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120
production.
So you saw that in that PK

891
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,320
there.
That was kind of the beginnings

892
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:17,200
of the, the setup and it's just
grown from that point on to,

893
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,040
yeah, lights and light and rays
and all that kind of stuff.

894
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,720
So we're putting together some
packages for like, like rodeos

895
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,120
and stuff, you know, like cities
have their little, their

896
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,200
exhibitions, their rodeos and
things like that.

897
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,800
So, so, yeah, that's, that's one
of the things on the horizon

898
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,160
that we're we're working on.
That's what the winter's for

899
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,280
here.
Nice and go outside.

900
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,720
Yeah, you can't.
You can't go outside very often,

901
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,280
very long, I guess, right?
Because you get in Saskatchewan,

902
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,280
you guys are just like so cold.
Men have nipples too, right?

903
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Oh yeah, big time.
Yeah.

904
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Metal plated inside of our
jacket.

905
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,640
She.
Gets cold.

906
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,840
Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic.
Yeah, so, well, cool.

907
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,280
That's, that's kind of the,
that's sort of the idea there.

908
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,320
So next year, yeah, we'll we'll
we'll be doing a few, we'll be

909
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,680
doing a few small tours,
probably Western Canada and and

910
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,560
then we'll see kind of where
things where things go from

911
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,240
there.
But we still got the rest of the

912
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,520
album to release as well.
It'll be some more artistic

913
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,480
projects that kind of come along
with that.

914
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,240
I'm not sure Courtney has plans.
Courtney has plans, so we'll

915
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,760
just do whatever Courtney wants,
OK?

916
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:35,160
Right on when, when do you plan
on kind of getting an idea of

917
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,160
the of the tours in 2026?
The reason I'm asking that is we

918
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,920
can have you guys come back on
prior to the tour kicking off

919
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,960
and kind of like showcase, hey,
this is where they're going to

920
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,200
be.
This is what you're doing, where

921
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,040
you're at, that type of thing to
kind of help, you know, get the,

922
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,120
get the buzz out, I guess is the
word.

923
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,240
Yeah, my, my, my, my best guess
is it'll probably be like late

924
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:57,560
February, March, somewhere in
that range.

925
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,720
Wow, Our year kind of figured
out by then, Yeah.

926
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
OK, when you get a better idea,
get a hold of Chris for sure.

927
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,000
Definitely.
Yeah, you will, absolutely.

928
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,960
I'll make a note to poke at you
in in middle of January, just

929
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,440
see where you're at because
it'll, you know, we like to have

930
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,480
folks come back on, you know,
just because they love talking

931
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,680
to us.
We love talking to them and

932
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,400
it's, it's all cyclical.
So.

933
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Yeah, I just thought about that
the other day.

934
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,280
Another year of doing that and
it'll just be all repeat guests.

935
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,760
So it'll be tough to get back on
here or it'll be tough to be new

936
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,480
to be on here.
But well, like you, like you

937
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,680
said, we probably booked these
guys in June and then now I'm

938
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240
booking in December.
So we, I kind of, I kind of

939
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,160
reeled it back a little bit
because it gets a little chaotic

940
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,920
when you're trying to.
Put I know, but I just like the

941
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,120
fact that these guys are on
their way up.

942
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,280
We're, we feel like we're on our
way way up.

943
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,560
We're we're all headed hopefully
in the same direction together

944
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,080
and it'll just be cool to have
that relationship going forward.

945
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,920
I I like that idea of it too for
sure.

946
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
So where where can people find

947
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,960
you?
Where can they get a hold of

948
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,480
you?
Obviously everything Gibson and

949
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Cohen it's it's Gibson, Gibson
and then the and symbol with Co

950
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,760
Gibson and Co music.com,
correct.

951
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160
That's correct, yeah.
Yeah, and then you're on the

952
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,320
Spotify, iTunes, Facebook.
I've shared your Facebook page.

953
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,080
We got the the the website
isgibsonandmusic.com.

954
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,680
So spell it out, boys and girls,
Gibson and music.com.

955
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,800
I'll show their their their
website here again.

956
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,200
There it is right there.
We were talking to Steve, which

957
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,360
is the lead singer and
songwriter for the band and Adam

958
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,720
the drummer.
Adam the drummer, right,

959
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:41,960
Drummer, producer, drummer,
engineer, engineer, bus driver,

960
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,200
studio builder.
So, so so let's go, let's go

961
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,960
that real quick before we wrap
this all up.

962
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,560
So Adam's A drummer, right?
He's 30 years of music as a

963
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,040
drummer.
You got you got Joel 19 years is

964
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,360
the guitar playing.
What is what does Joel do

965
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,880
outside of out of of?
Is he have any other role in the

966
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120
band besides what you and you
and Adam are doing, Steve?

967
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,560
He's big into the Morgan side of
things.

968
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,640
OK in the back.
Cool.

969
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,080
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, Joel, Joel runs a diesel

970
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,160
shop.
Actually, he's a diesel

971
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,480
mechanic.
Big dies.

972
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,920
OK.
In in in Yorkton, which is a

973
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,640
city right, right close to us
here.

974
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,160
That's a good guy to have when
the bus breaks down.

975
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Exactly.
We've been there.

976
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,560
He has fixed the bus.
Yep.

977
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,120
On the South.
Right on.

978
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,400
Yeah, so.
Right on.

979
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,080
Love it.
Yeah, he brings, he brings

980
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,840
boiler suits with him or
coveralls.

981
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,520
Yeah, and he can just.
Jump right on.

982
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,320
He earns his rock'n'roll wings
there for sure.

983
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Oh, we all, we all do.
Honestly, like everybody, like

984
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Steve said, huge role to play,
Yeah.

985
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Absolutely, yeah.
And what what's what's

986
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,840
Courtney's other roles in the
band?

987
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Banjo play a mandolin and then
she does all the social media,

988
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,600
the website, all of that kind of
stuff.

989
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,120
OK, OK, cool.
Yeah.

990
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Do you get her involved in the
background vocals?

991
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,320
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.

992
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,280
Background.
Was she the one I was talking?

993
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,080
That I don't have my glasses.
On yeah, it's OK.

994
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,480
So was she the one I was talking
to?

995
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,240
That's right, via e-mail.
Yep, that's right.

996
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,960
OK, cool, cool.
Because she is.

997
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,240
She said said, you know, just
e-mail this guy Adam.

998
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,840
I'm like, OK, cool.
Yeah, so good job, Courtney for

999
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,760
setting it up.
Yeah.

1000
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Thanks, Courtney.
That's awesome.

1001
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Appreciate it yeah yeah, yeah.
Roger Plate anything else you

1002
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,560
anything else you guys want to
talk about or share why we still

1003
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,160
got some time I.
Think we're good?

1004
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Yeah.
OK.

1005
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,800
That's fun, right?
On lots.

1006
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,480
Of fun like.
Yeah.

1007
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,720
Yeah, we're we'll look forward
to doing it again when you guys

1008
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:34,600
are going to release the album
and go on your whatever tour you

1009
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,840
got scheduled 1st and.
Yeah.

1010
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,440
Looking forward to talking to
you guys again man, this has

1011
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,680
been awesome.
Your band is outstanding, your

1012
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,520
look is outstanding.
Love it man.

1013
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,360
Right.
Yeah, so keep kicking.

1014
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,640
We always, yeah, we wrap up
every show like this.

1015
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,480
If, if #1 thank you for being on
the show.

1016
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,960
We appreciate it.
We're going to do our best to

1017
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,680
kind of help, help pimp you out
a little bit more.

1018
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Absolutely.
Not that you, not that you need

1019
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,480
it.
Your music rocks and you're

1020
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,000
going to, you're going to do
some great things.

1021
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,880
So if you ever do come to
Arizona or Illinois, look us

1022
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,680
both up because we'll come to
the show.

1023
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,920
I'm in Arizona, Mike's in
Illinois, so be mindful of that.

1024
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Yeah, when you're playing the
big arena shows now, remember

1025
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:14,080
what it gets Calm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1026
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,680
We'll, I'll come out and
introduce the band.

1027
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,840
I'll be the guy that introduces
you before you go on stage.

1028
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Lemoyne wants me to do that on
New Year's Eve.

1029
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,080
I know he does.
Yeah.

1030
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
One of our one of our artists
have been here once Mike MC the

1031
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,960
show on New Year's Eve in
Chicago.

1032
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,320
So I'm.
Going to try and make that

1033
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,560
happen.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be pretty

1034
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,920
cool.
Yeah.

1035
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,200
So we wrap up every show like
this.

1036
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640
If you're feeling suicidal,
depressed, you know, or just

1037
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,320
drop.
Don't do it.

1038
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Just go.
Go, go out for a run.

1039
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,520
Go scream in a pillow.
Go journal.

1040
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,720
Go do something.
Call somebody.

1041
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,720
If you can't find somebody to
talk to, you text 988.

1042
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,280
Somebody's standing by and
willing to have a conversation.

1043
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,640
You right now, somebody does
love you.

1044
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Somebody will miss you.
And you don't want to leave a

1045
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,080
hole in somebody else's heart
because you just had to do

1046
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,920
something stupid.
So don't do it.

1047
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,680
Be here tomorrow because
everybody wants you to be here

1048
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,880
tomorrow as do we for Chris and
Mike, the Chris and Mike show

1049
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,200
and the Steve and Adam from
Gibson and company.

1050
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,400
Thank you very much for for
coming on, taking a listen to

1051
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,320
the show, all the contents.
Yeah, you'll get all the content

1052
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,160
and stuff once we get everything
edited down the air, the show

1053
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,320
air in a couple weeks.
We were on live on Twitch and

1054
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,840
YouTube.
So hopefully we got some

1055
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,920
traction for you guys there
until we talk to you again in

1056
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,600
the new year.
You guys have a a great

1057
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,880
remaining 2025.
Wish you the best of luck to

1058
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,160
him.
Thanks again for coming.

1059
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,760
On man, absolutely.
Thanks guys.

1060
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,360
Thanks for having us.
All right.

1061
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,280
Love you brother.
Love you too man.

1062
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,840
Peace, guys.
Don't leave yet.

1063
00:52:27,840 --> 00:53:01,760
Don't leave.
Look at.

1064
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,920
Till you see it, fight the
battle.

1065
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,680
That's you boss Wheel.
Fight the battle.

1066
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,840
But you boss Wheel.
Who is his baby.

1067
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:27,760
Till you see it.
Oh yeah, listen to your.

1068
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,560
Now you're turning come down
here.

1069
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,680
You haven't found solids in your
sand.

1070
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,280
You just bump fighting.
Wait for the dead or.

1071
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:51,520
When it's going to rave you?
Ain't no creature we're playing

1072
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,080
man.
You just you quit on the

1073
00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:00,160
almighty day.
You gotta dream who in your life

1074
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:08,560
the people go in every day.
Take your turn behind your eyes.

1075
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Feel the soul revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1076
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640
yeah, yeah.
Take a moment.

1077
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Look at you.
See them fight the battle until

1078
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:56,720
you most clear.
You gotta, you gotta.

1079
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,920
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.