#156 - Dennis Campbell - From Technology to Music

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And.
We're up there, boys and girls.

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This is a rare afternoon version
on a Friday.

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We're talking with Amanda,
Dennis Campbell.

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See how I timed that?
It said yeah when I said Dennis

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Campbell.
Hopefully, my man, hopefully my

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internet's not whacking day,
man, it's been whack in the

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afternoon for some reason.
I don't know why.

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So what's up there?
29 countries now.

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M29 welcome. 29 countries.
Hello 29 countries, Chris and

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Mike.
This.

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Is Dennis Campbell Mr. Biz and
tech Yes, we are here on twitch

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and YouTube live.
So we had Dennis on before all

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talking about AI and stuff,
which is really cool because the

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the short time, well, not the
short time, but from the time

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that you were on Dennis to like
within two or three weeks, the

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AI like experience just just
went insane, dude.

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Like we were talking then about,
you know, the more you feed it

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all the kind of stuff we learned
so much from you about the the

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the what was it?
The it's not the digital cloud.

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What is it that that stores it?
The data cloud.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

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How that just like, 'cause it's
just within really like within

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two weeks, all of a sudden the
mimicking of the human, like I

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sent Mike something and he had
no idea.

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And then I was like, dude, look
at it again.

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That's not me.
But just in that short time you

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said it's going to, it's going
to catapult itself and it and it

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hasn't.
But that's not why we're here

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today, right?
We're here to talk about your

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music.
Yeah, man, I definitely, this is

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like my first real music
interview too, man.

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I've done a lot of podcasts.
Never done when around my

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middle.
I'm so excited man.

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Cool.
We're happy to talk.

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First podcast around talking
about it.

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That's awesome.
Absolutely.

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So let's talk about your music,
man.

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What's going on?
Yeah, man, so I mean, I've been

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an artist for some years, man.
Like I like I told you all

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before, man, I've been recording
for years.

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Really.
When I moved to Atlanta in 2008

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for college, I got into like
some music production group when

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I was in college.
I went to college at Georgia

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Tech.
So I right, I definitely, you

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know, it's in the heart of
Atlanta.

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Of course it's a tech school,
but there's of course the

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culture of hip hop is like all
do Atlanta.

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So it's one of those things
where I just got into these

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groups of guys that like, they
made beach, they made music.

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I mean, that's kind of what's
the journey of me starting to

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create music.
I had always loved hip hop.

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I sold mixtape when I was in
high school and always was kind

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of abreast of the newest and
most latest hip hop music.

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But I never created any until I
got to Atlanta.

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And it was just kind of like a
natural thing out there.

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It was like one of the things
people did just to network and

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have fun.
It was like like I used to just

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go play basketball with my
friends when I was younger and

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stuff like that.
I get to Atlanta and like a lot

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of my friends like making beats
and going to studios and stuff

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like this.
So, well, it kind of just became

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a thing that was a, it was
really just a hobby for quite

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some time.
It was a, a really passionate

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hobby for me.
And over time it just kept

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evolving and evolving.
Eventually one of my closest

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friends, he's originally from
Virginia and he, he, he was a

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producer his whole life and he
kind of had a studio in this

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dorm room.
Then when we kind of started

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being roommates later on, he had
a studio in the house we lived

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in.
So we had a studio literally

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like right across the hallway
from my bedroom for like years.

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So I could just kind of like
mess around with the process of

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recording and stuff like that.
So like I said, I've been

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recording for shoot over since
like 22, 2009.

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I mean, it feels like I've been
recording for a really, really

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long time now.
And I, and I just stepped off of

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the the porch and it kind of
said I want to become like more

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of a public facing artist
outside of everything else that

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I do in tech, because it really
just aligned with the the story

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and the narrative that I was
trying to bring with who I was

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now and kind of making a more
authentic version of myself.

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So I, I released my first single
this summer.

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I've set a date to release my
first album in October.

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I released the album earlier in
October.

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And now I'm kind of excited to,
to see kind of how things kind

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of unfold as I continue to do
what I'm doing to tech and

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seeing how much attention I can
bring to the music.

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Because my music, it means a lot
to who I am.

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And it just kind of lines up
really, really well with where

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I'm at professionally,
personally, all those kind of

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things right now.
So see, I'm excited, man.

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So it's a good time for sure.
So, so with, with your tech side

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of life, right, because your
tech side, I mean, Mike and I

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both follow you both watch what
you do.

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It's it blows me away, man
Appreciate it.

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So how much of how much of that
are you going to incorporate

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into the, into the promoting and
the publicizing of the music?

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So, because I've seen some
stuff, right?

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Yeah, so you like, and I kind of
do it in waves like I've

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promoted my music in waves like
so I created a mix tape last

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year and then the mix tape
really just to feel out to see

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if people kind of like with
embrace what I do in music and

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stuff like that.
And I got a pretty decent

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responds from the mixtape.
So I did a little bit of work

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earlier this year to kind of
like before I released my

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single, I kind of re released
the mixtape.

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And I did like this series where
I just kind of sit at my desk.

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I put on a suit, the tie, and I
kind of just spit the verses

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that I had on my mixtape to kind
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it and stuff like that.
And I kind of got a decent

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response from that.
And then I rolled out my single.

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So when it comes to the stories
that I tell in my music, it's

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very much so aligned with the
journey that I've had in

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technology and as an
entrepreneur.

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So I say, and I use a lot of
tech to kind of infuse in my

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music marketing and stuff like
this.

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So I've used stuff like hating
and different platforms to kind

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of create content.
I also all of my music videos,

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like I haven't produced a music
video outside of those desk

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videos that I shoot myself.
All of my videos are kind of AI

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content generated.
So all of my music is mine, but

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I write my music, I pick and
select my own beats and all that

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kind of other stuff, go in and
work with engineers and stuff

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like that.
But for my visuals, I do a lot

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of AI visual creation.
I have two AI videos.

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I have a third one that I'm
producing right now.

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So I do see AI is kind of like
the tool that I'll use to kind

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of make visuals for the content
that I create.

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But I just don't see myself
being like this music, like

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performing music artists all the
time.

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Like I just don't see myself
like shifting my gear from being

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like I, I can get paid quite
heavily just to go talk

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somewhere and talk to people
about technology and talk to

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people about different topics in
XR and all this kind of other

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stuff.
So I don't necessarily see

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myself like just diving into
being a performing artist, but I

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do see opportunities where it
could make sense for me to

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perform.
But I think it's going to be a

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world where I kind of just
create the music and let it kind

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of live in the digital space and
let AI be the place where I kind

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of create visuals for my content
and stuff like that.

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But I never say never though,
you know, you never know, I

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might end up doing certain
things.

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But but yeah, right now that's
how I'm kind of seeing it at

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least.
So are you going into a studio

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when you're done with the song,
like a professional studio?

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Are you, are you doing all the
recording yourself?

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I'm going to real studio.
So like I used when I was in

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Atlanta, I used to record in my
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Like we had a pretty good studio
at my home though.

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But right now I go to real
studios.

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Everything that I do, I don't
have a studio at my home out

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here in California.
So when I record, I started

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recording my album back in Saint
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there about last winter time.
So last winter I went in with

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one of my brothers, he with one
of my brother's closest friends.

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He's an engineer, producer, He's
also an artist too, but he

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started helping me record the
album.

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So went into probably about four
or five sessions with him,

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started recording the album.
Then when I got back to

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California, they got me a couple
of engineers out here, a few

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studios, and then I finished
recording the rest of the

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records.
But yeah, and I write all my

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stuff kind of whenever I fit,
get the urge in the neck and

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then kind of practice, perform a
little bit and then I go into

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the studio and record stuff.
See, I think that's really cool,

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man.
I would have never guessed that

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because you're so far immersed
in technology.

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I think that's cool that in the
space that you don't feel as

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comfortable, you leave that to
the professionals.

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I would have thought that, you
know, being technologies, you

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know, tech savvy, you would have
been trying to do it yourself,

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which actually would have been
totally cool in the beginning.

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That's what I did like when I
was learning this stuff and I

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wouldn't I wouldn't go pay
somebody to record me or I pay

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for a beat.
I was just kind of going to the

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studio we had in our house, go
find some beats, RIP some stuff

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off YouTube and just kind of
writing the record and stuff

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like that.
I did did that for years.

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But once I wanted to start
taking a little bit more

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seriously and of course now I
got a wife and son and it's like

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a separation between what I do
from a creative and a musical

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standpoint and what I actually
do here in my home.

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So I kind of like having to go
somewhere to record my music and

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kind of putting me the
engineering process, which I do

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know how to run Pro Tools and
all that kind of other stuff.

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Probably not at the level of a
professional sound engineer or

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anything of that nature, but I
do know how to work my way

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around all of those
technologies.

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So, yeah, but I do like prefer
working with an engineer,

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working with somebody who's
recording me, mixing all my

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records and stuff like that
because it just kind of gives me

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a a little bit of, I really love
the creation process more than I

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like all of the other stuff when
it comes to engineering music

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and sounds.
So, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
I like having that other person

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to bounce ideas off of.
You know, I'm not somebody

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that's so egocentric that it's
my way or the highway.

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I'm actually looking at
everybody else in the room.

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Does that really sound good?
You know?

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Exactly.
Am I trying to talk myself into

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this or do you guys think it's
cool too?

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I like that feedback the same,
man.

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That's why I love the engineer
that I work with out here

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because like he doesn't know me
from the can of paint.

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Like the other engineer that I
work with in Saint Louis, like

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he's kind of like he's a he's
one of my little brother's

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closest friends.
So kind of they all kind of been

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around me for years and stuff
like this.

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So they know exactly who I am
and what I do outside of the

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music.
The engineers that I work

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without her in California, like
they don't know too much about

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me unless I tell them too much,
which I don't typically go into

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all of it when I'm in the studio
out here and they just kind of

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recording the guy who sings like
a a new artist or someone who's

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just a artist that likes rapping
and stuff like this.

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So it for me, it's cool because
when I get, I go go to their

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studio and they have random
people in there and I just kind

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of get their reaction that gives
me a little bit of a sound

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canvas to the stuff that I'm
creating that's outside of my

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typical network and stuff like
that.

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Well, like the other day Chris
sent me a set of lyrics and all

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of a sudden I got excited.
You know, it's like that sparks

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that creative side of you, you
know what you want to make that

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person happy.
And all of a sudden I'm hearing

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all this music that goes with
these lyrics.

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And I wasn't even thinking about
that 5 seconds before my phone

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went off, you know, and all of a
sudden now.

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Thank you.
And that, that that dude, that

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song I randomly found because I
was looking for something.

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I was looking for somebody in my
e-mail thread.

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And so I typed the name in.
And then and so then there I'm

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like, oh shit, I'm like, I want
if I ever sent this to Mike.

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And then so I sent it to him.
I was like, did I send you this?

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He's like, no, I'm like, oh,
right on.

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I said.
But I absolutely love it.

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Yeah, well, you've never not
loved anything I've sent you,

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which so you're kind of biased.
You know, you're the yes man of

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the band.
But I get like, but that's kind

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of what Dennis was saying, right
when you're and the phrase you

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said doesn't know me from a can
of paint.

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Never heard that.
That's funny as hell.

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But that's that's true though,
right.

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Somebody that you you've spent
time with doing things, they

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know everything about you.
So it's different going, like

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you said, going to California
work with working with a new

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engineer.
And unless you, unless you kind

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of purge who you are, they're
just looking at you as an artist

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who's in there to do work and
get and get, you know,

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whatever's in your head down.
So it's a different, it's a

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different approach, right?
So they're not going to be like,

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Oh yes, Dennis, that's nice to
be like, man, you know what?

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I just, I wouldn't do it that
way.

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I would do it this way.
Yeah, You don't have that brutal

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honesty that, you know, you and
I, we're going to say, hey, you

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got to try that again because
that's not good.

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They're like, if you're going to
pay me 50 bucks an hour, I'm

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just going to get it down and
we're going to send you on your

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way.
Yeah, of course.

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Yeah, that's why.
And me being the kind of person

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I am with my creativity, like I,
oh, when I go into these studio

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sessions, I might book it for an
hour to maybe a couple hours,

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something like that.
And I'm super particular with my

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time when I go in there.
So.

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And I'm knowing what I want to,
I know what the vision I want to

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have by the time I come out of
there.

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And I'll just kind of give him
the free reign to kind of do

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certain things from a sound
canvas perspective, like making

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the aesthetics and effects a
certain kind of way.

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But I'm already kind of having
an idea of like what I really

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want this to feel like.
Because I probably rehearsed it

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multiple times before I go to
the studio just so I can get the

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best bang for my book when I go
in there recording and stuff

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like that.
But yeah, that definitely comes

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when it just comes with a lot of
time to recording and stuff like

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that.
It just, I know it how to be

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official in my time with these
guys for sure.

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And I definitely don't have
enough time to tell them a whole

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story like they would.
They'll never know their the

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whole the whole rundown.
And they'll just kind of be

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like, yeah, man, this guy, cool.
He kind of like technology and

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he's coming here rapping like
it's 1998 or something like

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that.
You know what I'm saying?

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Well, those would have been the
only debates that Chris and I

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had because he always wanted his
voice to be as pure as possible,

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which I appreciated, right?
But there's certain times where

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effects add to the song's
character, and they're

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necessary.
And, you know, it wasn't hard to

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talk him into.
It's like, here, here's what it

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sounds like without it, and
here's what it sounds like with

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it.
We can do it either way.

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I don't care more.
Often, but it was right and it

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was subtle too.
It wasn't it wasn't like we were

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before auto tune, all that kind
of shit.

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So it wasn't, it wasn't such a
heavy effect and delay because

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it was reverbent and delay.
And and when, when he did it

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with me when we were recording
songs, and then when, when Jason

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did it at the Mesa Jar as our
sound guy and he showed me the

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difference in like, oh, OK, So
it's still, it was still my, my

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voice.
It wasn't altering my sound.

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It wasn't altering my pitch and
my tones.

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It was still my authentic self.
It just gave it that little

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boast underneath it that helped
it carry or, you know, help help

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it sound as a fuller sound with
the band.

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It also became painfully obvious
to me that he had never been

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around people who knew how to
time the delays and the reverbs

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to the tempo with the song
right.

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So at the end of every measure
it disappears as long as you've

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timed it right.
Nowadays all that stuff happens

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automatically inside Pro Tools.
But to his point, you had to

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know how to do that back then.
You know, if the song was 160

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beats a minute, I don't know the
math anymore, but you had to

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know that it had to be a 25
millisecond delay, right?

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Otherwise it went too short or
too long, Not for sure.

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I don't think you does does does
rap music, Does rap music use

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delays and rebirth?
For sure.

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Oh, for sure, definitely.
It's for sure.

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And I said for sure.
It just brings more fullness to

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the vocals and stuff like that.
Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah.
And it becomes a creative.

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That was the other thing that
you know what, as we were

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talking about it, it becomes a
creative tool too.

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Sometimes it's cool to make it
extend out forever, you know,

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like at the end of a song or
something, let his vocal just

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repeat over and over again as
the music stops.

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Sometimes it's a creative tool
as well.

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Not for sure.
I, I definitely, I can, I just,

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I do some real cool stuff.
So I, I would love to talk a

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little bit about my album, but
I, I, based off of what you're

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saying, I just did a record with
a artist.

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So I I don't do a lot of
collaborations recently, like I

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just kind of been doing my own
thing.

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But I recently connected with an
AI artist.

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So it's a guy, he's actually a
real artist, but he's created

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like an AI persona for his music
and stuff like that.

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And he that's interesting.
Yeah, it's super dope.

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So he is different for sure.
Let me say it's different.

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And his music, he has some
really dope stuff that he's

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created.
So I started collaborating with

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him a little while ago and he we
made a record and so he sent me

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this record.
It's totally like, it's not like

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in the same vein as the kind of
music I make.

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It's like just a totally
different field.

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It's almost like stadium kind of
music.

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It's really vibe and stuff like
that.

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I'm making really like my stuff
is like, I wouldn't say grungy,

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but it's like it's very much so
rap rap.

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Like I'm like really rapping
bars and I'm talking like about

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really deep concepts and topics
here and there and stuff like

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that.
But the record he sent to me was

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super dope.
So we I put a verse on the

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record and he works with some
really cool engineers.

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He's out of the Bay Area.
The artist's name is YB Ghosty.

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So he he works with some really
cool engineers, one of his

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engineers kind of engineers like
E40 and a couple other guys in

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in the Bay Area.
And he had his engineer re like

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mix the song after I have laid
my verse because he sent me the

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record.
Then I put my verse on it with a

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in a different studio.
Then I sent him back all of the

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stems and all the stuff from the
session, and he had his engineer

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go back in and do some stuff
similar to what you were just

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talking about, Mike, where his
engineer just took the song to

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another level with like vocal
effects and reverse delay.

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And like it was added more to
the beat.

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And it was just like, yo, this
is like, it was like a, I

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wouldn't even say a totally
different record, but it was

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just like the record on like
times 10 or something like, And

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I was like, yeah, this is the
type of effect that you would

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want to engineer to bring to
your record if they're going to

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come in and heighten the the
quality of the record.

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But but he definitely somebody
with a good ear and a good set

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of tools.
Super good ear man.

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He's been doing it for years,
like 20 plus years of experience

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mixing and engineering some of
the best artists in the game and

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having to work on their record
and then hearing it was just

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like, yo, yeah, this is the kind
of stuff that this is the the

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tale of legend.
Like you just hear you see guys

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that do this kind of stuff, but
once they kind of put their

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hands on stuff that you're
creating, it's just like, Yo,

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this is nice, Jay.
Like I I have an appreciation

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for engineers for sure.
Like I love my my goddess, like

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my little brother's friend who
engineers my sound like I'm

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really my album.
I consider like a demo now.

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I think I'm going to re record
my whole album and I'm going to

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turn it into like a more
produced and polished version

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like later on this year, later
on next year sometime I'll

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probably be releasing.
But I'm definitely going to let

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him kind of engineer my whole
album next time I come through

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because I do like the guys I
work with, Kelly out here.

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But I think it's just a certain,
it's a particular level of skill

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that you really want the
engineer to have to to bring the

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best out of a record, especially
the kind of records that I'm

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writing and stuff like this.
So definitely I find a lot of

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value in engineering skill for
sure.

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So you released a single, right?
Or you released a single?

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Yep.
OK, so where do we find the

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single?
So my single is right now it's

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on even dot biz, but so even dot
biz I all my music is direct to

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consumer.
Like I, I do have some of my

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records placed on YouTube.
So like the single is actually,

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I have two videos on YouTube. 1
is called well, the first single

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is called Why wait?
So the record is titled in a way

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that kind of lines up really,
really well with me becoming an

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artist.
It's why wait like don't move it

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urgency.
It's kind of one of those things

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it's like a call to action
record.

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So I have two and made it AI
videos, but I only put like the

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first verse on most of the
videos so that I could kind of

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drive people to want to come and
buy the single from the even

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Diabetes.
But yeah, so that's like the

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first song I released the album
is out to right now on Even dot

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BS.
So everything I have is on Even

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dot BS.
I am planning on like releasing

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that first single on like
Spotify and maybe like one or

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two other streaming platforms
maybe around Christmas time or

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something like that, or later on
in this month, just because I

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want to kind of start exposing
some of the stuff to a broader

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audience.
But right now it's YouTube for

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visuals and Even dot BS to
actually get access directly to

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the to the record.
What's your what's your, what's

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your YouTube channel?
Mr. Biz and Tech, Everything is

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Mr. Biz and Tech.
OK, I was just making sure.

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No, you all good.
I was I no, I wasn't sure if you

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if you were going to kind of do
you know, you do the different

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with the with the with the with
the music part for me.

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So that's why I asked.
No, yeah, no, I fuse it all

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together.
It's now the music lines up with

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what I'm doing in technology.
Like I, I actually describe my

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music as like, it's like my
Wellness action.

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It's like my when I go into the
process of, yeah, if you go to

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videos, you'll see it and you
can kind of Scroll down.

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We start releasing the AI
series, but it should be like

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the 4th to 5th video in there.
But what I did was yes, that

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first one right there.
So what I did with the music now

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I just call it a Wellness
action.

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So like it's something that I do
to keep my mind right, to keep

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my mental kind of in the right
space and, and I kind of align

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it with what I'm doing in the XR
and AI space with the Wellness

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action.
Somewhere in the future, the

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truth of hip hop was locked
away.

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The words that spoke to the
people.

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The beats that carried healing,
hustle and hope.

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The records that.
Build.

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Community.
This party is, yeah.

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All of it sealed inside a vault.
Sure.

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Amazing man.
What's?

447
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,080
Left out here, noise empty.
Verse.

448
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,560
The verse will come in right
after.

449
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,080
Me stripped of its roots.
But that vault can't stay closed

450
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,800
forever.
This record, Why wait is more

451
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,720
than music.
It's a signal, a reminder, a

452
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,520
key.
Because the longer we wait, the

453
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,880
more we lose.
The heartbeat of real hip hop is

454
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,520
still alive, but only if we
unlock it together now.

455
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,280
Look, I used to play a humble
play back and all I ever did was

456
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,520
get played.
It's $5011.00 or something.

457
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320
Ways for you to get paid.
If you ain't like the way she

458
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,360
was going, why'd you stay?
Why wait to the mall to get done

459
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,720
what you can't do today?
Look, I said why wait?

460
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:57,480
Look, I said why wait.
I said why wait, look why wait

461
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,640
I'm a once in a lifetime
experience y'all really ain't

462
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,120
experiencing.
I can hear it and you sent to me

463
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,920
know you smell it on me.
Yeah I'm having sin and I'm

464
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,600
better than start it.
As a rookie network veteran

465
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,480
myself, the only thing I'm
focused on getting better than

466
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,440
the meat in the floaty candy.
I'm spending that medicine

467
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,160
helping to hear a lot of people
from there read to read it back

468
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,840
and all I have to deal with get
played

469
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720
just to take debate.
I'm ready for war action all

470
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040
weekend debate.
But in American history, and

471
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,960
sometimes I cannot relate.
The vault is opening, but this

472
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,920
is just the beginning.
To hear the full record, head to

473
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,240
Even dot Biz, Search Mr. Biz and
text.

474
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,440
Don't wait.
Don't let it get locked away

475
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,240
again.
Something ways for you to get

476
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,760
paid.
If you ain't like the way she

477
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200
was going, why'd you stay?
Why wait to the mall to get done

478
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,240
what you can't do today?
Look, I said why wait?

479
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,560
Why wait?
Look.

480
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,680
That's cool, dude.
That is really cool, man.

481
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,560
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it guys.

482
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,320
Appreciate it, that is like shit
is amazing man.

483
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,160
So how long?
I want to know how long it take

484
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,160
you to make that video.
That video, it probably took me,

485
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000
I want to say probably like 2
1/2 three weeks.

486
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,120
And the one I'm producing right
now, it's probably about to take

487
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,000
me like a month, a month and a
half.

488
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240
The the the first one I made, it
took like a few days.

489
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200
The quality of it isn't as good.
Like I've been working with some

490
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,960
other AI creators right now.
So I the third one that I'm

491
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,800
making, which would be the final
video for why wait?

492
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,960
Like I, I have one more video
that I've been trying to get my

493
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,120
AI video quality like creation
of.

494
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,760
So I've been really working with
some people that have been

495
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,200
making like almost movies and
and really, really quality

496
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,360
stuff.
So when the last one I'm making,

497
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,480
it's kind of like AF1 video.
It's going to be like a racing

498
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,320
people just driving, flying,
flying cars and kind of it's

499
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,920
going to give a really crazy
effect.

500
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,720
But that one I'm I'm hoping to
bring us totally different level

501
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,520
of quality too.
I want, I want I want the prompt

502
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,080
that got you in Times Square
that, that I want that because I

503
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,400
want to put myself on Times
Square for marketing shit.

504
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,320
That would be badass.
That would be.

505
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,320
So that was freaking cool, man.
That was like we get Chris and

506
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680
Mike show in Times Square and
everybody, holy shit, they're in

507
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Times Square.
That That's that's amazing,

508
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Dennis.
That's and the music is cool.

509
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,080
So the yeah, the music's got a
hook.

510
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,840
It's a lot.
Yeah.

511
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,200
It's catchy.
It's cool.

512
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,800
It's got to groove.
I can see what you're saying

513
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,720
about going back to like kind of
the more old school rap.

514
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,720
It's kind of like you.
You got a modern twist on that

515
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,000
though, which is really cool.
A lot of it has to do with

516
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,600
you're an amazing AI artist for
sure, with your visuals and your

517
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800
background.
That was two weeks well spent.

518
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,480
That was really cool.
I enjoyed watching the visuals.

519
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,120
It synced up well with the
music, which it's very old

520
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,120
school rap.
It is.

521
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,040
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it, man.

522
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,440
I mean, I would love to play out
maybe like one or two other

523
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,120
records and maybe you all can
hear because I have some stuff

524
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,120
like that record I liked a lot.
So I laid it out first because

525
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,800
it just lined up where I'm at
right now.

526
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,200
Like I'm really in this place
where I feel like I'm moving a

527
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,880
certain kind of way.
But I also wanted to call other

528
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,040
people to kind of especially in
the time of AI, Like I just feel

529
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,400
like a lot of people are
hesitant, fearful.

530
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,560
And I think now it's time for
more people to it's kind of

531
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,840
really move with a little bit
more urgency around some of the

532
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,040
stuff that's going on because we
can't let AI kind of just come

533
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,680
in and take over without people
actually having the right reins

534
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,520
on it and stuff like that.
But I'll play 11.

535
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,960
So like none of my other records
are publicly actually like

536
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,600
everything else is like all
there.

537
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,680
So I would have to probably like
do a small screen share.

538
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,480
I'll probably play something out
of my eye and I want to get you

539
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,640
all feedback on these records.
Nobody's heard these records

540
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,040
yet.
So I want to kind of give some

541
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960
some context here.
Nobody's heard these records

542
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,880
yet, but I'll give a kind of
tease for some of this stuff

543
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,880
because the album is definitely
it's it's it's good Like it,

544
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,560
it's really, really good.
From my perspective.

545
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400
After I've let a decent amount
of people hear it now I'm more

546
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,360
excited about the the next
frontier, what I want to do in

547
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,480
the next part of it.
But I have a record is called

548
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,440
Move Around.
It's like, I feel like it's like

549
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,160
a record that's going to like
really take my my musical kind

550
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,000
of position into like a
different spot.

551
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480
I want to pull it up really
quickly.

552
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,200
I'm going to play it out of my
iTunes.

553
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,040
I think it should.
Let me stream it out of here.

554
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,080
OK, well, I'm super critical of
sounds, man, and whoever's

555
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,600
helping you engineer that, kudos
to them because, yeah, that they

556
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,160
can ruin a good song.
Super quick and very true.

557
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600
They made you sound really good
behind it.

558
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,560
It's not overdone.
And like Chris said, it's got a

559
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560
cool groove to it.
The tempo was just right.

560
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Yeah, I think you need a I need.
I think you need some

561
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080
rock'n'roll background going or
something, man.

562
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Just saying.
Yeah, if you ever need any loud

563
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
guitars, I'm your guy brother,
man, I definitely want to get

564
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,400
into.
Southern Rock and and the

565
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,120
southern rock type vocal nothing
or Freeman is the song we play.

566
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,640
That's Mike and I Okay, so
everyone.

567
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,200
Let me know if the music, Yeah,
I definitely will.

568
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,920
Eventually when I get to
producing my next version of my

569
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,920
album, I definitely I'll reach
out to you because I do want to

570
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,560
bring some more high quality
production to the music.

571
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,160
I noticed I have the capability
to do stems in the studio.

572
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,760
One that I just paid for.
I had to upgrade my subscription

573
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560
and that was one of the new
things that they have in this

574
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,400
version is the capability to do
stems.

575
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080
No, that makes a lot of sense.
All right, let me see if it's

576
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,960
cool.
Is he sharing?

577
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,040
I won't let I'm in the browser
he's trying to get me.

578
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480
I think we have to share it from
our end, but you know, we I

579
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040
mean, it's not like we can't do
this again and and figure and

580
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,600
not for plan that stuff and
check it.

581
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Out If you send Chris through a
text, he can share it.

582
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,360
Yeah, I can do that right now.
Yeah, we can keep talking and

583
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,520
I'll send it over to Chris right
now.

584
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,240
I'll let you see.
I'll send one of these right to

585
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,080
you right now.
You gotta send it to the He's

586
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,160
gotta send it to the chat
though, right?

587
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Because if he sends it to my
phone I can't share.

588
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440
It all right, send it away, Drop
it into the media off your

589
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,360
desktop.
Where?

590
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,840
Where can I send it in here?
It's like he just like we did

591
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,400
the back.
That goes above my head, Mike.

592
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,440
Send it to Mike.
Then Mike can figure that out.

593
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
That shit went right.
Went above my head man.

594
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840
All right, let me see what I can
do here.

595
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,120
How can I get it to you all?
I can get some color to my

596
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,920
album.
Too isn't there?

597
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,400
Do we have a chat?
We got a chat.

598
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Yeah, yeah, we do studio chat.
Oh yeah, The chat doesn't let

599
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,320
file drop.
It doesn't look like.

600
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,680
Let me see.
Come on, Riverside.

601
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,120
Let him drop a file in there.
Do better.

602
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Yeah, no files.
Right.

603
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,200
Hire this.
Hire this guy as a consultant

604
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,360
for extra 100 grandy.
Yeah, I'll get him.

605
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,720
Right, I'll get him.
Right, you know who we should

606
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800
hook him up with?
We we should hook, We should

607
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,240
hook.
We should hook Dennis up with

608
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Lemoyne man.
That would be fun.

609
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Yeah, it was.
Lemoyne Lemoyne Alexander

610
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,120
Lemoyne He's a he's a a Grammy
award-winning rap producer

611
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,880
turned into to to rock kind of a
rock.

612
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,760
I want to say Rockstar because
he's clamming the charge, but

613
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080
he's dude, he's just like the
salty birth.

614
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,000
He's like you.
He's just very cool, laid back

615
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800
just and and he came back on
you.

616
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,200
You're you and he are the only
two guests that have actually

617
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200
come back on that that that, you
know, hey, I want to come back

618
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,320
on the show.
We're like sweet.

619
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680
So it's but just in talking to
you right now about you music

620
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,440
stuff, I, I automatically
thought I said we should hook

621
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360
him up with Lemoyne because
Lemoyne's got a unique thing

622
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,120
too.
I think you guys could could

623
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,000
vibe together.
Cool.

624
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,960
And he was one of the most
sought after rap producers

625
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840
throughout the 90s.
Yeah, I would love to connect me

626
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,040
now.
Like I'm actually always.

627
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Solid, yeah.
He's good people, man.

628
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
He's really good people.
Humble, humble.

629
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,560
And just like, I mean, he he
kind of just kind of kind of

630
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,880
knocked on the door of some of
the stuff that he did, But I

631
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720
think it's, it's so much more
like he had an opportunity to

632
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,840
work with Prince and then he
kind of just kind of sat back

633
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,280
and reflected.
He's like, do I really want to

634
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160
do I really want to do that?
Do I really want to go behind

635
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,280
the scenes of Prince?
And and he couldn't which I I'm

636
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,680
like, fuck, I can respect that
because you know which you.

637
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Didn't want to have like vision
ruined of his hero, right?

638
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,480
That makes a lot of sense.
I could definitely understand

639
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080
it.
And he said, not that that would

640
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,520
have happened, but if it did, I
didn't want, you know, I didn't

641
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,120
want to ruin something that was
so precious to my musical

642
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920
upbringing, you know, Like,
that's what he meant to him.

643
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200
And this was a guy who has gold
and platinum albums hanging

644
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,600
behind him as he's talking to
you.

645
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Yeah, he had a song he produced.
He produced and played on for

646
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,680
the movie The Queen movie, and
so he had that that I platinum

647
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,320
whatever in the background
behind him and then he.

648
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Just did the Spinal Tap one too.
Yeah, yeah.

649
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,600
He was just in Spinal Tap, too.
Yeah, that was a flop.

650
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,760
But you know that's not his
fault.

651
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,440
He was still asked to be on the
project, which is pretty cool.

652
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720
So yeah, that would be fun to
have both of you guys on

653
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,640
together too.
Yeah, I would love to connect,

654
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,000
man.
Like I said, like I'm always

655
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960
open to making some dope
connections in the music space.

656
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,360
So I think I just sent the
records to you via e-mail, so

657
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,240
you actually get it in a second.
OK, OK, let me go to the

658
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Christian Mike e-mail.
Yeah, now I'll get some context

659
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,840
too.
So like my album, I call my

660
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,800
album You cannot see this.
It's acronym me UC UCTS.

661
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,880
You cannot see this.
It's really all about just

662
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,200
talking to people from a
perspective of getting them to

663
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,560
shine their light.
Like be living your foolish

664
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080
purpose, living your the the
calling that you had on your

665
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,560
life.
And then understanding that once

666
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
you're walking in your purpose,
like the way that I met you all

667
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,440
in the way how you all have
passion about the music, the

668
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
podcast and the all of these
different things.

669
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Like I had this thing that I say
to people, like I like to meet

670
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560
people that the the God and the
more the divinity.

671
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
And you know what I'm saying
where I just like to meet people

672
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520
who, you know what I'm saying,
being the fullest version of

673
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440
themselves.
So for me, that's what the

674
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,520
album.
Exactly.

675
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Yeah.
So the album is really meant to

676
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,960
help people unlock their in
themselves and kind of giving

677
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,880
them that nudge from me, telling
my story, of course, but

678
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480
ultimately kind of giving them
the nudge to like, you know what

679
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,000
I'm saying?
Like be your foolish self and

680
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,200
your truest self in it and
whatever that means to you.

681
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,520
So that's what the story of the
album is about.

682
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,680
It kind of goes to this kind of
10 songs on this version of the

683
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280
album.
It goes from like this I have.

684
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,200
So the record starts with the
song called Welcome, and I go

685
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,200
into the song called Clear and
it kind of like gradually moves

686
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760
from like me introducing people
to my world to me, kind of like

687
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920
taking them into the music a
little bit more deeper.

688
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,800
And kind of just one of the
records in the middle of this

689
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240
album is called Make it.
It's like more of a parable

690
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,480
record.
It's just saying the record,

691
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920
everything is what you make it.
It's not about this is a true

692
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,320
concept album.
It's definitely a concept album.

693
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,400
It's a concept album.
Yeah.

694
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,720
And it and it's really meant for
people to walk away.

695
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Like I call it you can't Unsee
this because literally when you

696
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,280
meet somebody at their purest
form, you you really can't Unsee

697
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,520
it.
And then now I hate, I hate to

698
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,720
interrupt your train of thought,
but let me ask you this real

699
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000
quick.
Do you intend to do like an AI

700
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,400
video series that goes along
with each song you're thinking?

701
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,240
You mean you're thinking Mike?
Yeah, That's that's exactly what

702
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,520
it is.
That's why I made three videos

703
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840
for while wait.
So the first video I made is

704
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040
called the Vault.
The I mean, the first video I

705
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,920
made is called the Chase.
So like the first video is

706
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,960
shorter and it's really like a
guy in a club and he's like just

707
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360
chasing the girl.
He's like trying to get her, but

708
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,800
they're all around the song
while wait.

709
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
So it's like, of course, when
you're in a spot when you want

710
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,480
to meet women, you know what I'm
saying?

711
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,280
You can't you don't got a lot of
time to be patient when you want

712
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560
to go in and pursue somebody in
the venue like this.

713
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,400
So that video is called the
chase.

714
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800
The second one is called the
Vault, which is basically like

715
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,120
what you all just saw is kind of
like me kind of going in and and

716
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600
bringing original hip hop back
to people.

717
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
And then the third one is going
to be called the race, which is

718
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
going to be this F1 video.
So I'll do like do something

719
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520
like that for every core single
that I have, which I'm going to

720
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,480
have three singles for the first
version of the album.

721
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Why wait is the first one the
second one is called Gangster

722
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,360
Tears or Clear, and then the
third one is called the third

723
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,560
record is called Make it.
Make.

724
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
It will be the third single, the
3rd and final single from the

725
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
album.
That's awesome, man.

726
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840
I think we blew Chris's computer
up trying to download your.

727
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,120
I should have just had you send
it to me, but I was trying to.

728
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Sometimes my brain is working at
1,000,000 miles an hour and I

729
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680
need it to work at 1,000,001.
I could have sent you my phone

730
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,200
number.
I'm like, how am I going to do

731
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,480
that?
Because I can't give you my

732
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,000
phone number to 29 countries.
Of course I could have sent it

733
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,880
to you through the chat.
Yeah, that wouldn't work.

734
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Yeah, he's having problems
staying connected in the

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,320
afternoon for some reason, and
they're having a unusual cold

736
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520
snap, which is weird for
Arizona.

737
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,840
So, you know, like, I live in
Illinois.

738
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,679
You live around Saint Louis.
I live in California.

739
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Yeah, I live in California.
But it's actually cold out here

740
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,040
too right now, which is cool.
Like, I think it's the whole

741
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,320
West Coast.
There's like a rain thing going

742
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,800
on out here.
And yeah, man, I'm not loving

743
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120
it.
They're not prepared for that

744
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,159
kind of stuff.
Their infrastructure is weak.

745
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,400
So I was just listening to move
around and, and it's legit.

746
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,080
I it's.
It's we.

747
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,440
Were talking about how he's
doing an AI video series for

748
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,400
each one of the singles he's
doing that represents the

749
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,639
concept.
It's a concept album which I

750
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,639
think is amazing.
Yeah, so, OK, cool, cool.

751
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,040
But yeah, I don't know what
happened.

752
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000
I I tried to I I.
Told him we blew your computer

753
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,239
up trying to.
Play.

754
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880
I clicked move around and then
it started playing and I'm like,

755
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,280
where's it coming from?
Where's it coming from?

756
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200
And then of course, my Internet
decided, yeah, you're not going

757
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,160
to work.
Now I'm telling you, I don't

758
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,880
know what is about the
afternoons with me on.

759
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Friday, we just discussed it.
Arizonans have an unusually cold

760
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,120
weather and your infrastructure
is weak.

761
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Kind of like sickly old.
But but but legit tennis move

762
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040
around what I heard.
I love it dude.

763
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,160
And I'm not and and and and full
transparency, I'm not big on the

764
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,280
rap kind of vibe.
Thing I'm not as versed at that

765
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,280
no self, but I know what a good
I know what good sounds are yeah

766
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080
I could figure you guys
understand music like that and

767
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
for me The thing is really music
man.

768
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,560
I love hip hop, but I like all
music though.

769
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Like I'm not just like hip hop
is the music that I was, I

770
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,360
probably want to say music I was
introduced to 1st.

771
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160
I was introduced to like gospel
music first.

772
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,240
Like my mother sings gospel.
Like I grew up Christian Church.

773
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,600
So like I got a like I was
introduced to that form of music

774
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
and people performing live
singing and choirs and stuff

775
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,160
like that.
But eventually I just found hip

776
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,480
hop when I was probably a
teenager and it just just kind

777
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960
of like took me by storm.
I feel like it, the whole

778
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,680
culture of hip hop took me by
storm.

779
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,720
But you know, hip hop is so
inspired by so many other music

780
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,800
forms.
It's like it's a sample based

781
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,440
music format and rock and hip
hop there jazz and hip hop,

782
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,600
there's every a little bit of
everything and it's like a

783
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,560
melting pot or a gumbo of music.
So that's why I kind of really

784
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,640
love to.
When I worked at Guitar Center,

785
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,760
man, I was fascinated because,
you know, like Chris said, we

786
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,520
didn't come from that world, but
I respect people who respect

787
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,120
their art and who are good at
it.

788
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,360
When I took that job at Guitar
Center, I never imagined how

789
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,960
many people in the hip hop and
rap world would come there

790
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,000
looking for what you just said.
Rock guitar players, rock

791
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,200
drummers, They're like, hey man,
we want, you know, different

792
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,320
samples, we want different
sounds.

793
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,960
And it just to cross cultures
like that was so cool because

794
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080
all of a sudden now we're
talking the same language,

795
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,800
right?
We don't play the same music.

796
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,440
But like you just said, we know
what good music is.

797
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,000
Music.
You know what good sounds are.

798
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,400
Music is a frequency, man.
It's a it's a real frequency.

799
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,080
And the wave is when you really
embrace it the right way.

800
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
You're just like, like think
about Run DMC.

801
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Run DMC was like one of the
first most successful hip hop

802
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,040
groups ever.
And they were literally like

803
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,800
literally reinvented arrow
school, man.

804
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600
They were hip hop rock fusion,
you know what I'm saying?

805
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,480
And it and they literally became
a household name because they

806
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520
went into the rock world and
kind of brought urban African

807
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,120
American culture to the rest of
the world with rock music fused

808
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,720
into it.
So yeah, let's face it, white

809
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,720
people in the Midwest all of a
sudden knew what?

810
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,520
Right.
Rapping or hip hop?

811
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200
At that time it was hip hop for
sure.

812
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,960
I mean, let's be honest, these
are the facts.

813
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,280
Nobody knew, you know what I'm
saying?

814
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,560
And it was one of the they, they
really damn in LL Cool J guys

815
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,000
like they really start crossing.
I was that kid, you know, I, I

816
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,720
saw it for the first time on MTV
and I was like, wow, that's

817
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,640
that's cool man, I want to buy
that.

818
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:59,360
Yep, I don't know, I found 2
bands at the same time, Randy

819
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,080
and Run DMC and Aerosmith
because, you know, I was just

820
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,200
young enough that I didn't hear
Aerosmith in the 70s because I

821
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,720
was like 456.
So by the time they released

822
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,320
Walk This Way, I found 2 bands
at the same time.

823
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,960
It's crazy.
But that's, that's the power of

824
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,840
hip hop.
Honestly, man, it's a it's a

825
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:23,560
very much so inspired art form
and I have a crazy like I hip

826
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,680
hop always evolves, but like I
don't, I'm not the biggest fan

827
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,800
of let me not say the biggest
fan because I hate to come off

828
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,600
like a hater, but the music
that's currently like the rap

829
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,760
rap music that's currently put
out, like I feel like it's like

830
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,320
got a little bit away from what
the the nostalgic part of hip

831
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,920
hop that kind of brought me into
the infatuation that I have with

832
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
the culture.
So the music that I make is kind

833
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
of like a ode to to what brought
me into hip hop artist.

834
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Like, of course, that's almost
exactly what Lemoyne said drove

835
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,040
him to try a different art form.
You know, he just got burned out

836
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,240
on the clashing.
You know, he said when it got to

837
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:02,000
be the gangster rap and it's US
versus them.

838
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,040
And he said that just wasn't my
style, man.

839
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,840
I got into it because I love
making beats and producing music

840
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,360
and writing rhymes.
And you know, that was what he

841
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,160
was into.
He's like, I don't want to see

842
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,880
anybody get hurt or anybody get
killed.

843
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,720
So that that gangster, the whole
gangsterism of hip hop that

844
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,440
came, that wasn't how it
started.

845
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,360
It just kind of like was the
thing that was happening in the

846
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,240
communities of African American
communities all around America

847
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:29,120
and it just kind of got brought
into the the mainstream hip hop

848
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,280
pipeline.
But there was an evolution that

849
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,640
happened.
It's still in there right now

850
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,040
and it's still probably one of
the most funded parts of hip hop

851
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
when it comes to like mainstream
record labels and stuff like

852
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,120
that.
But there's a world for so many

853
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,360
things in hip hop.
That's why I do what I do it

854
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,560
because like I can stand in the
room with the biggest gangster

855
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
in the world or I can stand in
the room with the biggest tech

856
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,440
executive and carry myself in
the same kind of way.

857
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520
You know what I'm saying it?
And I know that the music can

858
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,440
understand those same kind of
ways as well.

859
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160
And I think that's awesome, man,
because you're one of those guys

860
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,720
that if you look at, and I'm
sure you could dress the part

861
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,960
too, you know, you could look at
you at face value and judge you

862
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
one way and you start talking
and you're like, holy shit, man.

863
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
This guy's the smartest guy in
the room, whether you know it or

864
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,800
not.
Yeah.

865
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
That in a lot of situations
you're going to be.

866
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,840
No.
And it's very intense because of

867
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,760
the career you chose, you know?
Sorry, No, you are good now.

868
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,320
It's very intentional to be that
way, man.

869
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Like, I understand.
I know what it was like when I

870
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,040
was a 14 year old kid and
wanting to get into technology

871
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,880
and never saw.
Anything that looked remotely

872
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,280
like, and I had to study Bill
Gates and I had to study Mark

873
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and
Steve Jobs.

874
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,440
I had to study these guys to get
to where I wanted to go.

875
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,520
But I always had to study with a
caveat and a carrot like, you

876
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,800
know, they, they came from these
kind of communities, but what

877
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,920
steps did they take to get
there?

878
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,840
What did they learn and what
kind of skills did they develop?

879
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,000
What pathways did they get to?
And all of that kind of stuff

880
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
was what was like the foundation
of what took me into technology.

881
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,240
But I knew that I never wanted
to alienate myself completely

882
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:58,640
from the communities that I was
coming from.

883
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,600
So for me, I always dressed like
I'm from hip hop culture because

884
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,840
I naturally am, even though I'm
one of very.

885
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,040
I would peg you more as the
artist music side then, you

886
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080
know, the AI has got to blow
people away.

887
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,440
They just don't write that
comment.

888
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Yeah, they never see any of that
stuff, man.

889
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,600
It's like a, you know, I'm
saying it's like a black box.

890
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,120
You never know what you're going
to get with me until I start.

891
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,120
But I think that part of you is
so cool, man.

892
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,280
Chris and I talked about it
after we talked to you the first

893
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,480
time.
It's like we just did not, we

894
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840
didn't see that coming.
And I remember telling you at

895
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,680
the end of the episode, I
appreciate that you could talk

896
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,760
so far over our heads that we'd
feel like 2 of the biggest

897
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,200
dummies ever.
But you don't, you know, you

898
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
want us to understand your world
and you're really good at

899
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,880
explaining it.
It's just a gift, man.

900
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,960
And honestly, for me, I love
this industry of technology, not

901
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,000
because I see it as like this
thing that's supposed to break

902
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
people apart.
I really see it as a thing

903
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,720
that's supposed to make humans
more effective, more efficient.

904
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,360
And I feel like music is just
one of the ways I used to

905
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,280
message that and kind of connect
the dots, you know what I'm

906
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
saying?
So I don't, it doesn't really

907
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,080
matter who it is, like age,
gender, race, none of that stuff

908
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,920
matters to me when it comes to
bringing people into a level of

909
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920
awareness and what technology
can do for them and empowering

910
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,400
them to be more effective as
humans.

911
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,520
Because at the end of the day,
we're all here sharing the same

912
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600
air, the same planet, the same
water.

913
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,720
And, and it's it'll behoove all
of us to be more effective while

914
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,680
we're sharing all of this stuff
together so that we can have

915
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,840
this place for as long as
possible.

916
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Because this planet is the gift
that keeps on giving on top of

917
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,920
life itself while we're here.
So for me, it's just like, hey,

918
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,240
whatever I can do to help other
people be better, I'm going to

919
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,000
do whatever I can.
Because of course, plenty of

920
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,560
people paid it for for me to be
here today.

921
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,560
For sure.
I just heard somebody say we're

922
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,200
in the best neighborhood in
space.

923
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560
I thought that was great.
Sounds real.

924
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,520
What was that?
Hey, I didn't ask you this last

925
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,680
time, I don't think.
And if I did, I apologize.

926
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Tell me.
Oh well, you're good.

927
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Where is all this AI music
coming from?

928
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:01,440
Are there programs that are
making this?

929
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,800
Have you ever heard of SUNO
about this?

930
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,440
There's a platform called SUNO,
which is really, really popular.

931
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,160
I've heard of it.
Explain it to me.

932
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,760
Yeah.
So Suno is powerful.

933
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,240
Like there's a lot of stuff you
can do with it.

934
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,960
So for instance, like I don't
use it to make my own music.

935
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,800
Like I first let me say that I
do not use Suno to make my

936
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,320
music.
That's why I wanted you to

937
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
explain to people that you went
into a real studio, Right.

938
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,800
But it was for double edged.
Like I said, the AI artist that

939
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080
I collaborate with, he uses Suno
and a lot.

940
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200
There's a few other platforms,
but Suno, you can do a lot of

941
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,360
stuff.
You can just make

942
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,320
instrumentation and make beats
on Suno.

943
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,440
You can make stems and beats and
it just be like, hey, I wanna

944
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,240
ambient sounding record or I
want a rock sounding record or I

945
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,040
want AR and B sounding track and
they can make you a beat.

946
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,560
You can then go in and say it's
like ChatGPT writes a book.

947
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,280
It's something like that.
It is very it's that powerful.

948
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,280
And then you can come in and do
something of like sing a melody

949
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,080
or put some lyrics in there or
something like that and it can

950
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,680
sound mash your singing vocals
and make a sound way better.

951
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:03,800
It can take a a reference of a
beat loop that you have and turn

952
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,880
it into a whole beat or take a a
piece of some lyrics and turn it

953
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,280
into a whole song or take a song
concept and flesh it all the way

954
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,640
out into a song.
So it it's super powerful.

955
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,280
Like it can do almost anything
to help the music creation

956
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,920
process.
A lot of people like I actually

957
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,200
wanted like I told you all I'm
in is AAI creative group right

958
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,960
now.
There's this guy, his name is

959
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,800
King Maloney is he's a comedian.
Originally he was a comedian and

960
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,520
I met him some years ago.
He recently became AI music

961
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,200
music creator and he's been like
he's like time 101 of the

962
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,800
biggest AI creators over the
past like 2 years.

963
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,400
He made a song that took off.
He made a song called BBL Drizzy

964
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,760
which like took off all the last
year was a fully AI record and

965
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,640
it just kind of blew up.
And now he's like AAI thought

966
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,240
leader from a creative
perspective because he made a

967
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,120
record that was kind of like it
was a joke, like he's a

968
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,840
comedian.
So he made a record that was

969
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,320
meant to be funny and kind of
entertaining, and then the

970
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,080
record just took off.
And now he makes a bunch of AI

971
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,080
music.
He has multiple AI albums.

972
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,760
He got nominated for a Grammy,
then they took his Grammy

973
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,480
nomination back because they
realized he was making

974
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,080
everything with AI.
Stuff like that.

975
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,720
Like it was crazy.
Like but bring this up.

976
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,320
It's like Billy Vanilli for the
for the AI world, right?

977
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,080
No.
For real?

978
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Yeah, but remember what I said a
few episodes ago?

979
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:26,200
There's 30 to 40,000 AI songs
being uploaded to Spotify, Apple

980
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,280
every day.
Man, in fact, I didn't know.

981
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,120
I thought it was like a month, a
year.

982
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,320
It's going up like soon as
platform like Suno is a

983
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
supercharging the way people
make a music right now.

984
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Like that's why I want you to
explain this to me because I

985
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,320
really didn't understand how
that was happening.

986
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,000
It's super powerful.
Like I said, you can put a

987
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
melody in there.
You can put a a 510 second

988
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,360
melody in there and it'll turn
into a whole song.

989
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,920
You can click.
So, so 4 balls in so I could

990
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,400
take what what what was one of
the songs we wrote.

991
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000
What can I say, I had a bad day
sipping on a bottle.

992
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Just waste some time away.
I could put that in there and

993
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,200
that'll create a melody out of
that.

994
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,840
Yes, and and I'll tell you even
one better, like so even the

995
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
King Melanias guy, I'm telling
you about what he's been doing

996
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,160
recently.
Like some of his he makes a lot

997
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,120
of stuff, but some of his stuff
is parody records.

998
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,800
Some of this stuff is like
jokes.

999
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,800
He has a version of records
where he goes and takes hip hop

1000
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,640
songs that were like really,
really popular and then turns

1001
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,280
them into like country songs or
turns them into rock songs or

1002
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,600
turn them into jazz songs.
Like turns them into other

1003
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,160
genres.
Same lyrics, same like same

1004
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,400
lyrics, but changes the whole
fill of the record to something

1005
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,680
that's in the just using the
Suno platform.

1006
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,400
So I'm not 100% sure which.
I know he's using Suno for some

1007
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,320
of your stuff, but I know he
uses a lot of stuff like he's

1008
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,560
been working with real producers
and going in the studio, but he

1009
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,200
does do a lot of what he's doing
with with these type of

1010
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,800
platforms and he turns songs
into other genres just like

1011
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480
really crazy.
That sounds like that sounds

1012
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,200
like just Joe.
We had a guy in the show not too

1013
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,880
long ago.
Just just Joe, Joe Joey from

1014
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,800
Syracuse, he'll take like, he'll
take a Metallica song and he'll

1015
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,120
turn it into a cinematic version
and slow it down, right?

1016
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,040
He just did a version of Paula
Abdul straight up and she liked

1017
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,000
it so much she commented on it
and liked it.

1018
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,680
So he'll.
Take that we got Paula Abdul to

1019
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,880
comment on the version of the
song he did.

1020
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,680
Yeah, so he'll take anything,
anything that's out there in the

1021
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,880
world and he'll he'll sit down
on a piano and change it up in

1022
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,320
some way, shape or form.
So it sounds kind of like that.

1023
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,920
What what you're talking about
the the app he's doing in real

1024
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,480
life, the apps doing it just as
an app?

1025
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,320
Exactly the exact same thing.
It's just like a I'm just just

1026
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,120
like, I'm just blown away that
it can create a version that can

1027
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,360
fool people so much that it
would win a Grammy.

1028
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,360
That's just I'm sitting, I'm
blown away.

1029
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,200
You wanna know?
It's crazy.

1030
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,720
Like I said, I work with a lot
of AI artists and creators and

1031
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:45,080
stuff like that.
And it's, it's crazy that the

1032
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040
perspective that a lot of people
have on us because people that

1033
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,400
make music like actually like
write it, perform it, write,

1034
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,480
play music, I mean, play
instruments, all this kind of

1035
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,160
other stuff.
There's a perspective that they

1036
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,320
have on the creation process of
this stuff.

1037
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,600
And then and and I know you all
this like people that play real

1038
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,920
instruments when they started to
yeah, when they stepped in and

1039
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,640
saying, hey, let's make Fruity
Loops.

1040
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,200
And then they start having sound
like, yeah, drums kits and

1041
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560
guitar Rinse and all this kind
of other stuff.

1042
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880
It's kind of the same thing
that's happening.

1043
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000
AI just is now because there are
some skills that you have to

1044
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,800
have to make a beating fruity
loop.

1045
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,280
Even with all of these different
clips with Suno, the that skill

1046
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,200
level is kind of reduced even
more.

1047
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Like now it's like instead of
you just having to know how to

1048
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,960
sync stuff together and kind of
position things and make all of

1049
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,720
these different instruments work
together, Suno will come in and

1050
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,840
say, shoot, we're using 20
sounds and you never know where

1051
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,240
they're coming from. 20
different riffs, loops and all

1052
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,240
this stuff.
It can almost interpret that

1053
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,400
feel the human element to some
degree.

1054
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,040
It can interpret the musical
elements like some of the stuff

1055
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,720
that because right now there's
so much data around music that

1056
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:54,320
you realize that the the data
that's on the Internet in

1057
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,400
relation to music is so immense
that AI has so much knowledge to

1058
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,680
create records that sound like
and feel like anything.

1059
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,960
They can make a song that sounds
like Selena Gomez.

1060
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040
They can make a song that sounds
like Kiss.

1061
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,040
They can make a song that sounds
like, you know, anybody, Michael

1062
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Jackson, Like all this stuff can
happen with AI because it has

1063
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,920
the data.
It knows what frequencies people

1064
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,040
are singing there, what tones
the instruments were recorded

1065
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,640
at.
And it's using all of that data

1066
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,280
to make different things.
But yeah, it's it's literally

1067
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,000
has so much data that that's one
of the the, you know what I'm

1068
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,160
saying, things that come along
with now all about music being

1069
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,840
digitized.
Well, it's like you talked about

1070
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,000
when you're on the show before,
it's the more you feed the

1071
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,480
system, the more it's going to
learn and understand.

1072
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,880
And then because you know, a
year from now, probably even

1073
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,280
sooner than that, Rai twins are
going to look and act just like

1074
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,000
us.
It'll get the inflections that

1075
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
we have in our voices and things
like that, right, because you

1076
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,960
said them.
The more you pump into the

1077
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560
system, the more the more it
learns and the more it adapts

1078
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,720
and the more makes it that much
more realistic.

1079
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,000
I did AI did a video about the
50 year mortgage and how it's

1080
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,320
stupid.
Nobody that was AI nobody.

1081
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,960
And it was my original Hajin
upload avatar.

1082
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,000
It wasn't even like I went back
and did another one, but it's

1083
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,920
just it's, it's the program's
that good.

1084
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,720
It's it's insane.
Now I got this question.

1085
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,680
So with all the AI platforms and
music and things like that, like

1086
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,160
I know the little bit I know
about AI is nowhere compared to

1087
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,200
you, but a lot of it's prompting
and typing in the prompts, all

1088
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,360
that kind of jazz, right?
Is it the same concept when

1089
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,160
you're making the AI videos and
the AI music?

1090
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Is it all you got to?
You got to put in the proper

1091
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,240
prompts and stuff.
So you definitely have to prompt

1092
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,560
the music creation stuff
properly and it takes a lot of

1093
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,280
iteration.
Like I haven't done a whole lot

1094
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,560
there.
The most I've done with any of

1095
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,080
these music platforms is I might
have made a few beats that go

1096
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,400
behind some of my Wellness
experiences for the stuff I'm

1097
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
doing in the VR space.
But when it comes to the visual

1098
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,160
stuff, this stuff is like you
really have to have some

1099
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,920
production skill to get to the
level of quality that some of

1100
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,560
these guys are getting to.
Because you have to go in as you

1101
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,120
have to do framework to get
consistency, characters and

1102
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,440
seeing consistency.
There are so many different

1103
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,200
things.
AI is going to always spit out

1104
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,840
something different.
So for you to get consistency

1105
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,000
across the three minute video or
five minute video or a short

1106
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,920
film or something like that, it
takes a lot of really, really

1107
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,400
skilled production work to get
to the level of quality that,

1108
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
like will keep people engaged,
especially from a video

1109
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,360
perspective, like a visual.
And even this audio perspective,

1110
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,640
like some of these AI songs that
are created, like the ones that

1111
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,320
are really good, like it's not
as easy as people would think to

1112
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,600
get it to the level of quality
that people is that some people

1113
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,480
are getting it to.
Yeah.

1114
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Yeah.
Let me ask you this on the video

1115
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,920
front to try to make myself
sound halfway smart.

1116
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,480
Have they crossed over the
uncanny valley yet?

1117
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,120
What do you mean the uncanny
valley?

1118
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Give me some context.
Do you remember, like, how old

1119
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,160
are you?
I can't.

1120
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,240
I'm 3536 now, 36.
Congratulations.

1121
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,880
OK.
So like in my day, the first

1122
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,640
person shooter games that came
out that were like, you know,

1123
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,920
the massive multiplayer games
they always had, there were no

1124
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,600
rounded edges any back then, you
know, it looked realistic.

1125
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,880
Everything was in real time.
But they called that the uncanny

1126
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,960
valley where people didn't move
quite right and the edges of the

1127
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,600
backgrounds weren't quite right.
So I would say with AI, we've

1128
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,880
crossed over that a person looks
like a person.

1129
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Oh, for sure you can't.
There's AI videos that can look

1130
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,440
just like real people because
they're so literally.

1131
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,320
This is the byproduct of social
media though.

1132
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,280
You understand that there's so
much video content of people on

1133
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,160
the fact to Chris's point, we've
been feeding, or to your

1134
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,280
original point on the first
episode, we've been feeding the

1135
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,480
machine all this.
Exactly.

1136
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,960
I Yeah, I.
Love.

1137
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Hey, Gin.
Like, I know, and I used this

1138
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,680
was stupid.
I know.

1139
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,040
So I had this funny idea one day
of putting a marshmallow.

1140
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,920
I was making coffee for the
morning, putting a marshmallow

1141
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520
in the filter, right?
Like because I mean, it was

1142
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,000
stupid, it wouldn't work.
But then I was like, oh, I'll go

1143
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,320
to Hey Gin.
I had Hey, Gin, create this nice

1144
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,360
little pretty, you know,
brunette woman talking about how

1145
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,880
to make your coffee taste like
burnt marshmallow like and

1146
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,240
legit, it was a 32nd clip about
taking a marshmallow sticking

1147
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:07,720
into the filter.
I put that shit on Instagram,

1148
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,240
dude, And you know how many
people comment?

1149
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,040
Oh, that would be disgusting.
Oh, I would try that.

1150
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,920
I'm like, it's fake, man, It's
bullshit.

1151
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,960
It sort of came into my head and
I'm like, here, let's put a

1152
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,760
marshmallow in the filter just
but that that, but that was

1153
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,600
after we spoke and that would
that's just how much.

1154
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
And that was video.
A little man swimming in your

1155
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,240
backyard pond looks so real.
He looks like a fish.

1156
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Right, and that's just that's
using meta AI dude, I just put I

1157
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,920
put that took the picture of him
and then I told it I had to do a

1158
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,480
lot of back and forth with it,
you know, but then and it was I

1159
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,280
mean you can kind of tell it's
fake because when he goes

1160
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,000
underwater, he doesn't have a
shirt on and then all of a

1161
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,600
sudden his body's the other way.
But you know, I mean shit, that

1162
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,560
still was pretty cool.
Just you know, because I

1163
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,240
irrigate and they were playing
in the irrigation.

1164
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:53,480
It's like, hey, so I showed them
his circle.

1165
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,920
I'm wonder, I'm wondering, I'm
wondering.

1166
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,120
I'm under the water pump up not.
Really, man?

1167
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,680
But and the little ones, man, he
loves you.

1168
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,080
You've heard of brain rot,
right?

1169
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Yeah, for sure.
Right, yeah.

1170
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,840
So he loves watching brain rot
in the morning when he comes

1171
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,560
over and just the like this
morning I'm like, what are we

1172
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,400
watching, man?
Brain rot?

1173
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,040
I'm like, OK, it makes sense.
We're rotting our brains.

1174
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,520
But it was just all these just
constant shifting, changing

1175
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,200
scenes of just weird AI stuff.
It was it's amazing.

1176
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,920
What what is it's coming, man.
It's just it's mind boggling for

1177
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,680
sure.
Definitely for.

1178
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Sure, I made him fly like
Superman from thing from a from

1179
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
a picture I made his little
brother trip.

1180
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:39,000
I told him to climb a tree and
he he turned around and leapt to

1181
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200
the pine tree and all the way up
to the top.

1182
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,320
It's a trip.
It's fun.

1183
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,560
It's fun if you know just for
shit like that.

1184
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,320
But what you're doing isn't
saying that video that took you

1185
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,480
3 weeks to do that, just that
clip that's pretty legit.

1186
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,240
That's really legit.
Appreciate it, man.

1187
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:54,720
Definitely.
When I get the next one done, I

1188
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,600
send it out.
I think I'm gonna put a little

1189
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,360
bit of a budget behind this
because I think I'm just kind of

1190
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,640
increasing the level of quality.
So I'm excited to let.

1191
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Well, before you drop that album
in the spring, make sure you

1192
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,440
come back on, man.
Yeah, let people know that

1193
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,360
you're going to drop it and when
it's going to come on.

1194
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,720
And I love talking to you, man.
You want to come back on?

1195
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:15,160
I like talking to you guys too,
man.

1196
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,760
It's good.
It's good to like have our

1197
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,280
perspective.
Just come in here and kind of

1198
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,600
meet the meeting of the minds.
But definitely like that song.

1199
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,280
Move on.
Well, you exploded my brain

1200
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,520
musically and with the, I mean,
I'm sorry, we got back on the AI

1201
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,480
again.
No, you all good.

1202
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,640
All three of us are fascinated
with it.

1203
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,600
I just thought about that.
It's like, God Dang it, We just

1204
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,240
spent another 10 minutes talking
about it.

1205
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,400
You all good.
And it came on to talk about

1206
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,440
music.
But that that record moving

1207
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,760
around, Chris, that's going to
be like the lead single for like

1208
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,880
the second part part of my
album.

1209
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,200
So like the the deluxe version,
it'll be like the thing that

1210
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,480
kind of introduces the next wave
of what I'm doing.

1211
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120
I don't know when I'm gonna drop
it, but it'll it'll be that for

1212
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,440
sure.
Cool.

1213
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Yeah, shoot that one to me,
Yeah.

1214
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,120
I, I emailed it to you, Mike, I
just forward it to you.

1215
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,240
OK, So when you do your videos
and stuff let me know cuz

1216
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,080
they'll throw your videos up on
our on our on our, our Facebook

1217
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,560
page 100.
Percent cool for sure man.

1218
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,720
I definitely share them man.
Definitely business everything

1219
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,880
and I try and repurpose
everything I see that you throw

1220
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,920
up there cuz your stuff is just
so cool man.

1221
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,920
I want people to see it.
And the one thing that I will

1222
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,840
say about your first episode to
give you kudos that I always

1223
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,560
tell people when I say go listen
to it is how positive you were

1224
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,520
about AI.
You know, people will start

1225
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,000
saying just general dumbasses
that only watch the news.

1226
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,480
I'm talking to him in the
public, you know, oh, it's going

1227
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,000
to take all these jobs.
I'm like, go listen to this guy,

1228
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,440
man.
We tried to get him to be

1229
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,400
negative and he was so positive
the whole time he was on the

1230
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,880
show.
I think you're going to have a

1231
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,040
different perspective and more
often than not, those same

1232
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,160
people will come back and say,
hey, thanks for, you know,

1233
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,760
telling me to listen to it or
whatever.

1234
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,800
So keep spreading your
positivity out there too, man.

1235
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,480
I appreciate it, fellas.
Appreciate it for sure.

1236
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,840
And we got to have you come back
on before the end of the year

1237
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,200
because because I have to build,
but Mike is off like a whole

1238
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
stint of time.
And we're purposing not doing

1239
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,040
any real shows during the week
of Christmas.

1240
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,640
Makes sense.
So we can definitely have we can

1241
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,160
definitely have you sneak on and
and we'll promise.

1242
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Just talk about music.
Oh yeah, let's do it, man.

1243
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,320
We can.
We probably get a few records

1244
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,240
kind of lined up.
I hope they had another video

1245
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,360
done by the end.
We can have like that would

1246
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,160
deeper dive into the album a
little bit and maybe talk about

1247
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,400
the deluxe a little bit for
sure.

1248
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,720
Yeah, that would be.
Yeah, if you save some stuff you

1249
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:20,320
know that you can send to me
like 1/2 hour before the show or

1250
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,640
whatever, you and I can make
sure it's going to work before

1251
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,040
we do it, and then Chris can pop
it on as we go.

1252
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,280
So sounds like a plan.
There you go.

1253
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,200
That'd be fun.
Man.

1254
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,280
That's really promote new stuff
you got coming out.

1255
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600
So thanks again for coming such
a super kind of Hard Out Here at

1256
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,960
an hour.
Yeah, you just.

1257
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Appreciate it feeling.
Dennis, man, I love talking to

1258
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:39,920
you, dude.
You're just you're just next

1259
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,200
level, man.
It's just you're cool.

1260
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,160
You're just a humble you're such
a humble human with just a

1261
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,480
really good life resume.
And I didn't know you're I

1262
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,000
didn't know you're a dad and a
husband.

1263
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,200
So props, man, That's cool.
You didn't.

1264
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,160
Talk well and this is the side
that this is the side of the

1265
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,640
podcast that I didn't really
even think would be so exciting

1266
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,960
to me is when he said hey,
Dennis reached out and I want to

1267
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,600
squeeze him in if we can because
he wanted to come back on talk

1268
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,560
about his music.
I was like, not only did I

1269
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,520
remember you and I were talking
about you coming back on to talk

1270
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,480
about music, I just thought it
was cool, man.

1271
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,040
Yeah, the, the repeat customers
are cool.

1272
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,600
Yeah, yeah.
Let's always do appreciate.

1273
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Your time, man.
Yeah.

1274
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,760
And I appreciate you guys.
Hey, thank you for thank you for

1275
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,760
being flexible with me today
because I really I, I, I, I

1276
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,400
triple booked myself, but I had
to go.

1277
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,760
I had to go do my, I think I did
this morning because that steels

1278
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,680
my soul.
So I thank you very much.

1279
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,440
For being I do it all the time,
man, so you know you got to do

1280
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,920
what you got to do for your
community for sure.

1281
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,600
That was that was appreciative.
So I'm Chris, he's Mike.

1282
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,280
This is Mr. Biz Tech biz and
tech.

1283
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,640
And remember, if you're feeling
sad, sorrow or depressed, go

1284
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
talk to someone to go run and go
workout, go scream in a pillow.

1285
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Go journal, go write, call
somebody that can't find

1286
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,040
somebody to talk to.
Text 988.

1287
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Somebody is standing by waiting
to talk you off that ledge.

1288
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,800
Tomorrow will be a better day
because you're waking up in it.

1289
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,840
Don't leave a hole in somebody
else's heart because you decided

1290
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,720
to leave this planet Earth.
Until next time, nothing but

1291
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,200
love.
We'll see you guys later.

1292
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,360
Peace, love you, Mike.
Love.

1293
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,120
You, Dennis, love you too,
brother.

1294
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,280
Have a great day man, hopefully.