#5 - Gettin to know Us!!

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The.
I like it.

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I like.
It that's our that's our new

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little ditty.
Welcome to episode 5 Ladies and

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Gentlemen Episode.
Five episode you should make

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that our intro music.
All that was what I was asking

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if you.
Don't.

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I dig it.
I do.

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I dig it.
I dig it, man.

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I dig the fuck out of it, Mike.
All right.

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Well.
There you go ladies and

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gentlemen, I just composed our
new theme song in about 10

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minutes on Sunday afternoon.
So I'm learning to run the

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garage band.
I watched a YouTube video on how

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to pick a drum beat and a bass
line and I pulled it off.

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So that was all of that
together.

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Yeah.
Dude, that's that's outstanding,

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man.
Yeah, that was 22 independent

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guitar parts and.
It does.

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It has kind of a it's cool, but
it does it has a what did it

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mean to you on it has a cult
vibe to it, which I love the

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cult.
The Cult's a great band, that's.

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01 of my favorites, man.
Absolutely.

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One of my favorites.
Recognition.

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They they They deserve.
You're hearing me.

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Fine, right?
Because my screen doesn't light

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up all the time when I talk.
You got to not pay attention to

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that.
So I'm going to out myself and I

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actually did some practicing on
the podcast here by myself and

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you really got to not pay
attention to that.

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What he's referring to, ladies
and gentlemen, is when we speak,

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there's a purple box that shows
the other person that somebody's

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speaking.
It doesn't always coincide with

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when you start talking or stop.
So in the final podcast, they

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don't see the purple box purple.
Rain.

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Yeah, I would sing, but I'm not
Prince Purple.

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Rain, I'm not going to try to do
prints, no.

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That's ill advised.
So, so you're wondering what

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we're going to talk about today.
So, so, so I had an idea of of

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of, you know, which we could
kind of tie this into ourselves

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in a way, right.
Because you and I love music.

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Yes.
And if we, if we I I'm a little

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irritated.
I typed in.

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I typed in one hit.
Wonders rock'n'roll OK.

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OK.
One hit wonders Rock'n'roll.

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Not pop.
Rock not candy Ash rock not

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fucking, you know, stupid shit.
First one hit wonder that comes

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up on Google.
What do you think it is?

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Which is it's mind boggling.
But it's I can see it being the

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number one.
It's, yeah, I can see it.

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Being the first, it was a first.
It's a.

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Top ten one hit wonder.
OK, so let me just take a stab

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in the dark, because the first
person that comes to mind for me

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when you say one hit wonder,
it's.

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A It's a yeah.
It would be either Head East,

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never been any Reason or spirit
in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum.

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Neither one.
No, but Norman Greenbaum is in

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there.
The one that first, the one that

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first pops up.
And it's not alphabetical

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because but the first one that
pops up is Common Eileen.

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Oh, that makes sense.
Midnight runners, Remember that.

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Come on, Eileen, right.
It does.

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But yeah, Norman Green bombs in
there.

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Yeah, Norman Green bombs in
there.

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And that's the only song he ever
wrote.

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Ever.
That's it.

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That's the only song he ever
wrote.

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Blew up.
I hear it probably as far as I

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know that was it.
Just he did it.

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Did some song something for it
and in the late 60s Norman came

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across this Porter Wagner
playing a gospel song on TV.

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He thought, yeah, I could do
that knowing nothing about

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Gopsel, Shakespearean of the
sky, for example.

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It's a familiar fuzzed out
guitar sound.

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There was a hit in the 70s and
Paved proved to be his only hit.

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Yeah, and just for 1979, just a
further on that song, he said

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that it took him all about 15
minutes to write that song.

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I don't doubt that.
Think about that.

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The, the, the best.
I think the best songs that are

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ever written are the ones that
you don't labor over.

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Well, yeah, I mean, up to you.
You know, it's the one that uses

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there.
And boom, the one that you just

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heard.
It was all 10 minutes.

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It took me longer to put it
together than it took me to

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write it, right?
It probably took me two hours to

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put it together and it took me
10 minutes to write it.

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So there you go.
That's not bad.

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That's not bad.
I just.

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I just think there's to be more.
There's now.

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I hit.
I clicked another one.

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Hit wonder.
There was your head east.

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Your head east.
Never been any reason.

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Yep, first one that popped up on
this search, and then Rick

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Derringers Rock'n'roll Coochie
COO.

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That's a good one.
And then, yeah, twisted sisters

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were not going to take it, Which
that wasn't a one hit wonder

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because.
They yeah, you really can't call

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Twisted Sister a one hit wonder.
That whole album was full of top

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ten singles.
No, yeah, I know, right.

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I just.
I got that about too long ago on

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Apple on iTunes.
And oh, stay hungry.

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Great album.
There's some really good songs

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on here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Then you have Ram Jam Black
Betty.

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Oh, that's a great song.
All right, now from free.

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Hey, have you ever from turn up
the autograph sound, turn up the

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radio?
Have you ever seen the video for

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Black Betty?
No, but there's a link right

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here.
Dude, just check it out because

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those guys look nothing like you
would expect them to look.

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They're a bunch of hillbillies.
I was blown away the first time

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I saw him.
I'm like that is not what I

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expected.
Really.

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Oh yeah.
I get as many people to watch

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that as I can.
Mississippi Queen.

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Yeah, yeah, Mississippi Queen's
a great song.

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I will watch it.
Oh yeah.

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Blind faith can't find my way
home.

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Red Ryder dude.
Lunatic French that that's a

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great song.
Which is, which is a trip

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because not a lot of people
realize that that Tom Cochran

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was was the singer Red Ryder.
Correct.

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You know, life is a highway guy.
Yep.

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He went on to have a That was
Tom Cochran.

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Stellar solo career.
Yeah, that was Tom Cochran, too.

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Oh, fantastic.
He did, Yep.

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He did, yeah.
And then something called Sniff

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in the Tears, a song called
Driver's Seat.

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Never heard of that one.
It tells of a person feeling

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lost at the end of a
relationship.

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Me neither, man.
Captain ride from Blues images.

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Ride, Captain ride.
I think I've heard that.

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Oh yeah, that's a great song.
Yeah, that's not a lot of.

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So that was interesting.
That is a link.

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Do you remember the first song
you ever heard?

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In my life.
That's that's a hard one.

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Now, obviously it's got to be
cocked.

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Yeah, well, just that.
That when you're old enough to

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recognize and understand, this
was music or this was a song.

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Like.
I can't remember the first DJI

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ever heard on the radio just
because it was, you know, a

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wacky dude, that so evil monster
you used to listen to in the

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mornings.
KNIXW Steven Martin.

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The dude would take a shower on
the radio.

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Not really, but it was one of
his gimmicks.

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I you know I do.
Let's let's change that instead

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of the first thing you ever
heard.

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Do you?
Remember, no, that's.

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Do you remember the 1st?
The 1st.

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No, that's fine.
OK.

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I can answer both questions.
I I know where you're going with

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it.
Yeah.

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So the first song that ever blew
me away, I was in my dad's 1976

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metallic red Impala with white
leather interior and an 8 track

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player and he put in Hotel
California by the Eagles and

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that guitar solo.
That's when I knew that I

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wanted.
I didn't even know what it was,

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but I knew that I needed to know
how that sound was made, you

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know?
So that was my first oh shit, I

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love music moment where it
grabbed my soul, you know?

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It made me sit up and pay
attention and it just grabbed

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me.
So then Fast forward to when I

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was 10 years old, 1983, I heard
Pyromania for the first time and

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that's the first album I ever
went out and bought.

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I think I probably heard
photograph or something,

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whatever.
The first single they released,

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I heard that on the radio and I
went and bought Pyromania and I

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love that whole album.
And that guitar sound from Def

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Leppard is really what made me
want to play guitar.

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Their tones were just so their
their distortion was so heavy

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and melodic at the same time.
But what I really appreciated

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about them is their clean tones.
What people don't understand is

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how hard it is to get a good,
clean electric guitar sound.

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An electric guitar was made to
be distorted, you know, But

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their clean sounds were
beautiful.

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So it was shortly after I bought
that album that I started

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playing guitar.
Well, that and the fact didn't

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correct me if I'm wrong, but
they were really good at

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harmonizing their guitars,
right?

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So they were really.
Yes.

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They wrote harmony guitar lines,
right?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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So that means to the lay person
that doesn't understand that,

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that means that they were
playing.

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Right.
The major.

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So they were playing, not the
major.

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They were playing the root of
the chord.

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So somebody was playing an A
chord and then the next guy was

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playing the third up from that.
So it made the guitar sound

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really full.
Two people were making one

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gigantic chord is what they were
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Yeah, they were masters at that.
And their producer, Mutt Lang,

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was the wicked genius behind it.
Right.

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And you know and and you add on
the fact that they harmonize

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vocally with everything and they
pulled that shit off live.

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Yes, their vocal harmonies.
What to me was just.

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They were that good live.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
And anytime before anybody ever

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thought about lip syncing and
all that bullshit.

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Oh yeah.
Anytime somebody would make fun

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of Def Leppard, I would
challenged them to go see them

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in concert and tell me that
their band could pull off that

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same quality live no matter what
style of music you're playing.

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Just absolutely jaw-dropping.
Amazing.

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They sounded just like their
record, only really loud.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I the first, the first music

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I ever heard was country because
that's what I grew up on from

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you know, so the first, the
first eight track because we're

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both in that eight track genre
was, I don't remember, I think

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it was The Gambler, Kenny
Rogers, the Gambler.

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That's a great the.
First eight track I ever bought,

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I mean, and that's funny.
I went into iTunes again and

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bought the album and it's
nothing.

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What I remembered it being aside
from the song, The gambler,

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everything else.
Like I I would have, I would

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have fought you that.
That was a great a great album

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start to finish.
And I listened to it like the

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fucking.
I like this shit.

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I mean.
Like The Gambler, you will know,

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you will notice, you'll notice
that I just said that's a great

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tune, not a great album.
Right, exactly.

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And I've noticed in listening to
to him, because I have Serious

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Satellite, so I, you know me,
I've always been, I've always

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loved music.
So it doesn't matter what type

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of genre I'm listening to.
Agree, I'm the same way.

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Hip hop and rap just because
it's not my thing, right?

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But when Kenny Rogers comes on,
because I have alerts set up for

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stuff that, you know, I go
through a cycle and change it

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probably every six months.
But he never raised his voice

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man like like he had to be just
the most boring musician live

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because like there was nothing.
Like he never he never like, you

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know how I sang in Nemesis like
that?

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That's kind of singing.
Yeah, but that's a different

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style of music, man, He.
Never would have sustained

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itself.
Oh, I know, but he's just, you

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know.
Dude, he made the women just go

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crazy.
Oh yeah.

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My mother was in love with Kenny
Rogers.

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Come on.
Oh yeah, he had that long Gray

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hair in.
That absolutely.

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He was a stud man stream.
With Dolly Parton.

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Yeah, you know, that's what
those people, that's what those

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people were into back then,
right?

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Come on now.
They were, they were running at

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a different speed than we were.
You know, I love my.

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I love my mom to death, but you
know, she's not, she's not into

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the Hard Rock.
She didn't grow up on Led

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Zeppelin in the Door.
She grew up on Elvis and Buddy

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Holly.
And you know, that was what was

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going on back then.
You and I grew up on Hard Rock

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in the 80s.
We grew up on 70s, classic arena

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rock, you know, Kiss and
Aerosmith.

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And my dad introduced me to The
Doors and Zeppelin and the

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Eagles, and that's where my love
of music came from was.

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His music was just amazing.
I was listening to Mötley Crüe

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and Def Leppard and Cinderella
and whoever was out at the time,

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you know, I finally got
introduced to Metallica, which

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changed my life.
But before that happened, he

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introduced me to Zeppelin and
The Doors and the Eagles and

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just amazing music that has I
still cherish and listen to and

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learn from today.
So I'm sure you went down the

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same path.
What was the first real album

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you bought that like, changed
your life?

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First real album.
It's hard because my my brother

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had such a wide array of music,
so I would kind of feed off his

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stuff.
I and I still have my original

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like 11:50 albums I bought and
they range from.

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I don't remember what the first
one was, but I had like Asia's

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original debut album.
Obviously.

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I had Hotel California, Kiss,
Dynasty and Destroyer.

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But I mean, I didn't like, I I I
can remember drawing pictures,

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like, you know, when you're when
you're going to school and

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whatnot.
And I can remember drawing

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pictures in 4th grade of bands,
right, Like a band on stage.

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Oh yeah, But it just for life,
man.

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I can't remember what it was 4th
grade, so I had to be.

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I don't know.
How old are you in 4th grade 10?

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Something like that.
Nine.

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Yeah, somewhere around there.
Yeah, so that would have been,

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that would have been 19791980.
Yeah, so it would have been.

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It would have been 7980.
So it, you know, it had to be.

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I'm going to go with either the
Eagles was the first album I

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ever bought or got as a gift
because once I started buying

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shit like I I love the
Scorpions.

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That was my my first real, like
this band is just fucking

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outstanding.
Like everything about them, the

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showmanship.
That's a great band too, Stage,

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you know.
Oh yeah, their live show was

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amazing.
Songs.

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Yeah, just like I saw the
worldwide live tour and and the

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coolest thing about that it was
a Compton terrorist in Phoenix.

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Or is it Phoenix?
It's I don't know if it's

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Phoenix or not.
But it's all the stuff, yeah.

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It was.
It was, yeah, yeah.

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So the Scorpions headlined it.
Aerosmith played before them.

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Autograph played loudness played
that that band from China I

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think or Japan.
They were from Japan.

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They were great, man.
Yeah, and then and then somebody

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else.
But I.

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I love my brother.
Had, yeah, and I learned.

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I learned from my buddy
Neanderthal on KSLX DJ that Y&T

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means yesterday, and today they
just shortened it down to Y&T.

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Yeah, I think you're the one
that actually told me that.

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Which I did not know, All right,
Hon.

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But yeah, the IT had to be.
It had to be Scorpions as the

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real, the first real kind of
real kind of of just the thing

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that kind of made me fall in
love with the music, but also

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the the entertainment side of it
and being in front of people

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like we were, Nicki and I were
out dancing Saturday and this is

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going to sound cheesy as fuck,
but.

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Braver than I am we.
Go dancing and and Kenny

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Chesney.
Hey, we're fucking dance like

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you and blame dude it's.
That's awesome, man.

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That's awesome If I can.
Cut a rug so much that we had

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people, we had people, we had
people there cheering us because

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they got I can dip her, I can
lean her this way and then drop

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her down with my hand, you know,
bring her up and just.

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It's almost a.
Chesty came on because it's.

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It's almost like one time you
aspire to be the center of

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attention.
Right so so Kenny Chesney came

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on and I'm and and it wasn't a
song that we were we were danced

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to because we like the the the
higher speed up stuff higher

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speed up just the more you.
Know up tempo.

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Faster paced he Yeah yeah good
Chesney was.

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And it's funny if you if and I'm
not slamming country music

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because it's if it is what it is
but there's so trying to not be

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country music.
Have you ever noticed that it's

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it's let's just be yeah, let's
just be pop rock.

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With that's what makes me not
like it to.

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Me, right.
Because they're they're they've

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moved away.
Like there were the videos and

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there's guys talking with his
hands and I'm like, dude, this

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song doesn't.
The song doesn't dictate that

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kind of movement with your hands
because you are singing.

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It doesn't even make sense.
Where I'm going with this Kenny

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Chesney, right?
Kenny Chesney on stage with his

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guitar was a live video,
obviously, but I just, it's one

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of those moments in my life that
I look at him on.

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I looked at that video and that
moment of him on that video on

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the stage and the mass amounts
of people, and it's one of those

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things like, fuck, that should
have been me.

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What the hell?
I was born to be a rock star and

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it just didn't happen, so I'm
very disgruntled about that

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every now and then.
We ain't done yet.

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But you know, that's that is
what it is.

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I know, I I know I know
absolutely not.

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Just takes one.
We could be that one hit wonder.

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Maybe we'll be on the top of the
list.

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It does take one, right?
Right.

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You never know, man.
And today is a whole different

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world.
That's partly why we're doing

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this podcast is eventually we're
going to promote our new music.

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We just promoted one minute and
one second of new music, so you

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know that it's possible and that
it's going to be written.

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We just proved it, so it comes
as fast as I'm motivated.

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Yeah, right.
You know, some days, let's put

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it this way, the state of
Illinois and the company that I

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worked for really helped me have
a lot more motivation here

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lately.
So we'll just leave it at that

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for now.
Illinois, I'm done with my fake

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beer.
So let me ask you, does it taste

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just like Corona or similar to
Corona or I've never had a fake

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Corona?
I I I'm going to have to say

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yes, it does my my memory of all
the beers.

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And they're they're good.
I know.

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It was the taste that I love the
most when I was drinking.

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Yeah, it was the taste that I
love the most when drinking.

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So when when I first, when I
first tried it, when I first

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tried the the fake beer it was,
I was five years sober and I was

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like, OK, if I can, if I can, if
I can drink a fake beer, then I

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know I'm cool.
And then the first time I drank

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it, it, it completely fucked
with my head, 'cause like, whoa,

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you know, the the mouth is like
beer, the brain's like beer.

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And then you know, there's
nothing to it.

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There's nothing going on,
there's no fuzzy feeling, like,

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what the fuck?
So that was interesting.

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So it took me a while to really
dive into it and be like, OK, I

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can do this.
And I don't drink a fake beer if

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I want a fake, if I want a bear,
I don't drink one because that's

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a slippery slope.
So with the lime in the Corona,

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I got to say it tastes just like
Corona.

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So you're you're getting there's
there's only a handful of beers

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that actually have.
Absolutely.

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I'm getting the taste, yeah, for
sure.

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And there's there's only a
handful of beers that actually

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are purely no alcohol.
Budweiser makes ones now.

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Coors has always made one and
it's Coors edge I figure with

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the Budweiser ones called
Budweiser Zero.

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I think Heineken makes a 0
alcohol and then Corona just

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came out with theirs.
And, you know, that's one of the

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things that when I released our
little Thanksgiving message, I

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think at the end of it, it's
towards the end of it.

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You know, I was talking about
topics that we were going to

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bring up, and that was one of
them.

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I said neither one of us makes a
mystery out of the fact that we

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were both addicts.
You know, we had different

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addictions, but we don't make a
mystery out of it.

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It's not something we're proud
of, but it's not something we're

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ashamed of either.
You know, we'd lived it.

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We survived it.
And if we can be a hope for one

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person out there that you can
see the other side and you can

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be sitting here just like we are
and, you know, be able to live a

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productive life and enjoy it and
have fun.

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And you know, life is great when
you're here in in the noun.

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You're not a slave to something
that you have to do every day or

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every hour or, you know, at the
worst of my addiction, it was

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every waking moment or I was
sick, you know?

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And unfortunately, my, my family
had to see that.

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And that's probably the part
that I'm not ashamed of, but

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it's the part that hurts the
worst.

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As I came home for Christmas one
year and I was in the worst of

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my addiction, man, and I was
just sick the whole time I was

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here because I didn't have what
I needed, you know?

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And you would you would have
thought that that would have

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been enough to make me sit up
and say, wow, I need to change

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the way I'm living.
But it went on for a couple

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years after that because you saw
me at the worst of my addiction

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as well.
I was at the tail end of it.

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I had just probably gotten close
to hitting rock bottom at that

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point, which is where you have
to get to.

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So it was shortly after we tried
to put that last band together

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that I was like, you know, I got
to make a change, man, I can't

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keep living like this or I'm
going to die.

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Right.
Yeah.

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And everybody, you got to have
that moment.

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Otherwise you're never going to
stop.

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And that's what people don't.
People that don't live through

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that chaos don't understand that
you.

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You truly have to realize that
nobody's going to make you stop

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regardless of what they say,
regardless of the conversations

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you have.
It's it's got to be something

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that you decide to do or it's
not going to happen.

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It's just you know.
It's just agreed a million

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percent, agreed you.
Know people reach out all the

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time about that stuff.
And I'm like, yeah, and people,

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people reach out about that
stuff all the time.

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I'm like, you can't.
How do you stop?

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Well, I stopped because I
stopped.

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But you can't.
You can't dictate how somebody

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else is going to stop.
It doesn't work.

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OK.
So let me ask you this because

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I'm curious, you know, you got
sober before I did.

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OK.
I never quite know how to answer

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this question.
When somebody says can you talk

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to so and so because you've been
there, done that, what do you

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say to that person or or do you
do you entertain those?

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I what I I tell them that that
I'm not.

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I'm not the sponsor type because
I don't.

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I don't a lot of a lot of
Alcoholics.

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Higher power.
I don't.

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I've never approached it as by
the grace of God, I stopped

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drinking.
Fuck that.

452
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,520
God didn't put the beer in my
hand and God's not going to take

453
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,160
it out of my hand.
I'm the one that took the one

454
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,760
drink and then all of a sudden,
you know I allowed it to get out

455
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,520
of control and allowed it to
affect my life and all that kind

456
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,720
of jazz.
So the device that I give

457
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840
everybody, when they ask,
because I get asked like, you

458
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
know, messages and stuff, I'm
like #1 you you can't enable

459
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,040
them.
You you can, you can't tell them

460
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,720
they need to stop because
they're just going to rebel

461
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,720
against that and they're going
to go off on their own thing and

462
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,200
do their own thing and they're
going to start, they'll go,

463
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,520
they'll go worse than that
because you're telling them to

464
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,600
stop.
So judging, pointing, enabling

465
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,840
are all negative things.
So I'm like, you just got to be

466
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,600
there.
You just be there to listen, be

467
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,160
there to support, be there to
help, you know when they're

468
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,880
ready to talk about it, they'll
talk about it when they're ready

469
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,080
to stop, to stop.
But my path to sobriety is

470
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,440
different than your path to
sobriety.

471
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
It's different than Bob's path
and Dave's path and Steve's

472
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,360
path.
And you know it's it's a it's a

473
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:55,080
never ending conversation
because the person reaching out

474
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,920
for help to share with the
person that is in their circle

475
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520
that needs help, it's telephone
gaming.

476
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,400
So what I what I say directly to
you is going to change when you

477
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,280
go talk to Dave about it because
you're not going to remember

478
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,480
everything I say.
So I I it's a slipper slope.

479
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,800
But I don't I don't really ever
dive into that conversation.

480
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,880
I just, you know, depending on
what they share with me depends

481
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,400
on how I respond to it.
And the basis of that response

482
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,280
is generalized on what works for
me doesn't necessarily work for

483
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,760
everybody else.
So I'm not going to pretend.

484
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,720
I'm not going to pretend that my
my path is your path, because

485
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,880
it's impossible.
It's just impossible.

486
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,680
That was that was more valuable
advice than people realize, and

487
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,720
I just wanted to see how much
what you said mirrored what my

488
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,280
response is, and it's very
similar.

489
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,360
I always start off the
conversation very similar to

490
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,240
what you said by saying I
literally woke up one day and I

491
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,600
looked in the mirror and I
weighed about 128 lbs and I was

492
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,880
sick and I knew I was going to
die, which.

493
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Is just crazy.
Yeah, and you know, I have

494
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,080
witnesses.
Kevin, my mom, my dad, my

495
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,960
family.
When I moved back here, I had to

496
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,280
shop for my pants in the boys
section because I look like an

497
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Ethiopian dude.
So.

498
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,560
That's crazy.
To your point, I got to that

499
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,560
level where I wanted to live,
You know, I didn't want to die.

500
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,520
And some people will just keep
going until they're dead because

501
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,840
they can't ever see that there's
life on the other side of that,

502
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,520
you know?
And I didn't see it for a long

503
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,880
time either.
But something snapped in me that

504
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,520
day.
And just the sheer will to live

505
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880
is, you know what changed my
life?

506
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,400
And I started taking life 10
seconds at a time, in a minute

507
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600
and 10 minutes in an hour.
And that's kind of the advice I

508
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,080
give to people the same as you.
That person needs to get to that

509
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,840
point themselves where they're
just so far down that they have

510
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,920
no other direction to go but up.
That's the best way I can

511
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,320
describe it is that day I
realized in my mind for the

512
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,320
first time that I can't get any
lower because lower is death,

513
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,120
right?
I I got nowhere to go but up if

514
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,600
I choose to live.
So I like your advice and I just

515
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520
wanted people to hear it for
themselves that telling that

516
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
person that is in their life,
that's an addict that they need

517
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600
to quit is not helping them at
all.

518
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,840
No, it pushes them away.
Nikki was a bartender for all

519
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,400
things, you know, and she
probably tried to tell me 1000

520
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,840
times, but I never heard her
because she's a bartender like

521
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
you're a fucking bartender like
he can, you know?

522
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,760
And it's just one of those
things that just didn't, it

523
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,800
didn't register.
It had the you had to have your

524
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880
own moment and your own whatever
it is.

525
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,320
I don't.
I don't think I was necessarily

526
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,280
rock bottom because I was very
functional.

527
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,080
I still did my job.
I still took care of my bills.

528
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,560
I still took care of my
household.

529
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,680
I wasn't, I wasn't physically
abusive or mentally abusive.

530
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,280
I was kind of a a Dick that
wasn't there emotionally.

531
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,920
I was completely unattached.
But that's almost just as

532
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,600
dangerous, if not more,
sometimes because it's more

533
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,640
dangerous to you because you
could drink yourself to death,

534
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,720
functioning every day, just
going along with your day,

535
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,400
right?
You're going to work, you're

536
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
selling your real estate, you're
getting off, you're getting

537
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800
drunk.
You can do that forever if you

538
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120
don't choose to quit if nobody's
upset with.

539
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,520
You right.
And that and that's where it

540
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,600
was.
Yeah.

541
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

542
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,800
And that's and that's where it
was heading for sure.

543
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,200
If I hadn't had that that wake
up the next day after the and we

544
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,920
never fought so we had this big
blowout so it was waking up the

545
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,200
next day like you know fuck
something's got to change and

546
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,120
that's you know googled a A and
you know went to one meeting and

547
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,000
didn't it wasn't a fit.
Came back home decided to stop.

548
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,560
So I kind of purged everything
in the house except A1 shot of

549
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Jack and a beer.
Drank both of those.

550
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,600
February 8th, 2005 I think.
And then February 9th went to

551
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,800
the first real meeting that I
connected with and you know,

552
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200
there you go.
So man, I last beer.

553
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,160
So we were at last shot.
I was just, I was just starting

554
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:54,000
to put the next band together in
2005 with Ken and you know

555
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,040
Teresa, the band that that you
were helping us with, trying to

556
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,560
get us into Nashville and stuff.
So that's where I was at that

557
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,080
time.
I was just just getting started

558
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,280
with that and once that
collapsed, everything just went

559
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,600
S after that.
It was not good.

560
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Yeah, I think it was 2005.
Let's look.

561
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
I always, I always mess up the
the sober date.

562
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,440
I just, you know, after Nemesis
dissolved, I just had no

563
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,880
direction, man, because nothing
else was working for me.

564
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,320
You know, I never had that same
fit with anybody else that I

565
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,960
ever played with after you guys.
So it was almost like it was a

566
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:49,560
struggle all the time and that
made it bad because you know, if

567
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
the music's not working, then
your life's not working and.

568
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Right, because that was the
outlet that was that was just

569
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,280
how we purged all the nonsense
in our days day-to-day life, you

570
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,720
know?
Well, that's where we always had

571
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,520
the quality about.
Fake beer, right.

572
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,760
It was it was the IT was the
escape.

573
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,639
Yeah, you know, it was 100%
escape for sure.

574
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,360
There was no stress.
You know what they Yeah, you

575
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,400
know what the fun, The catches
about fake beer.

576
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,120
What's that?
You got a pee?

577
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,320
Just like drinking regular beer.
You got a pee just like drinking

578
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080
regular beer.
Well, you can go to the

579
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,159
bathroom, man.
There's SO.

580
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Your magic.
I'll be right back.

581
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,760
All right, ladies and gentlemen,
Chris is going to go to the

582
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,480
bathroom now and we're going to
entertain you with, oh, I don't

583
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,719
know, we could listen to our
song again or we could tell

584
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,159
story.
I don't have any stories, so

585
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,159
this is going South quickly for
me, so maybe we'll listen to the

586
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:58,600
song again.
I could give a shout out to my

587
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080
mom for hosting an awesome
Thanksgiving.

588
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,560
That's probably what I should
do.

589
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,280
She made a great meal.
Thanks for having everybody over

590
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
and being a gracious host and
giving up your home for an

591
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,000
afternoon.
It was amazing.

592
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,280
And I was blessed to be able to
be there and spend time with the

593
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,120
family and nice and relaxing and
everybody that knows me knows

594
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,080
that.
That's my speed, so watch

595
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,320
football and drank a couple
beers and made some money on the

596
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,280
Cowboys game.
I hate to have to root for the

597
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:35,480
Cowboys, sorry Rob, but when
they're winning me money, as I

598
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,320
always tell everybody, my money
knows no allegiances, it just

599
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,960
goes and tries to multiply
itself.

600
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,440
Send your little soldiers out to
battle and hopefully they bring

601
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:52,080
back with multipliers.
We like to win, so Thursday was

602
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,240
good for that.
Beyond that, that's about all I

603
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,440
did except to write us a nice
little theme song.

604
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,920
So the nice little theme song
turned out good.

605
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,760
According to Chris, he liked it.
We'll Polish it up as time goes

606
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,000
along.
That's just a rough draft or a

607
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,800
demo as we call it, but I
thought it was pretty cool.

608
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,840
I agreed with him.
I thought it kind of had a cult

609
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,080
vibe to it, and I dig the colt
because they have such clean

610
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
sounds.
Their drums are nice and crisp,

611
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,040
their guitars sound clean, but
oddly enough they're very

612
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,840
distorted and a lot of effects
on them.

613
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,440
But that's probably TMI.
Here comes Chris again.

614
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:42,320
We powered through.
There wasn't.

615
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,760
There wasn't a lot of dead air
for.

616
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000
All you children out there, No,
that's good.

617
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,960
I gave a shout out to mom for
her awesome Thanksgiving.

618
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Dead air.
Dead air.

619
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Dead air, dead air.
Oh, all right, on.

620
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,240
What did you guys have for
Thanksgiving?

621
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,880
Oh, we had the standards.
We had Turkey and stuffing and

622
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:08,200
corn casserole and beans with
bacon and 04 different pies and

623
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,840
cookies and Oh my God, my mom
puts on an amazing Thanksgiving.

624
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,960
My sister-in-law made the
dressing.

625
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200
That was really good.
She also made the corn

626
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,920
casserole, I guess that was
really good.

627
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,440
Yeah.
Yeah, we had a good day.

628
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,840
So what?
What is corn casserole?

629
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,240
What is that?
I don't cook so I have no idea,

630
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:40,160
but if I was to guess I think
it's cream style corn and like

631
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,640
some kind of crackers that they
crumble up and they make like a

632
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:51,160
topping on the cream corn.
I believe it's a cracker top.

633
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,800
It's delicious.
If you like corn, you would.

634
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,080
You would really like it.
Yeah, we are.

635
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,240
I think it's a very Midwest
thing.

636
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,960
I do sometimes.
Oh, gotcha.

637
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,320
A lot of things are.
Very green bean cashew wood than

638
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,000
we often not to.
What do you guys have?

639
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Yeah.
Turkey, sweet potatoes, mashed

640
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,960
potatoes and biscuits, you know,
pretty boring.

641
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,600
We we did it Friday because Sky
and and Junior and and Little

642
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Man and Trip all went to his
family's side of town Thursday.

643
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:45,040
So we just kind of, you know, I
don't know.

644
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Oh Saturday we had steak.
I made steak which was which was

645
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,480
good T.
Bones, my favorite.

646
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
T bones We had T bones on.
On Thursday, yeah, that's my

647
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,000
favorite meal ever.
We killed we, Yeah, yeah, we

648
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,120
chopped up a cow.
We've got 1/4 of a cow.

649
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480
So we did the rib eyes last
night, which I've never, I've

650
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,240
never grilled a rib eye.
You've got to be kidding me.

651
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,360
I was like, damn, that's good.
You've never grilled a rib eye?

652
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,200
Oh dude, that's my favorite.
I I probably had twenty of them

653
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,920
this year.
Really.

654
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,520
Oh yeah, that's my go to man.
I'll stop by the supermarket on

655
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
my way home and pick up a rib
eye and throw it on the grill. 7

656
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,320
minutes later I'm done.
Baked potato and a rib eye.

657
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,720
Yeah why not See, I'm I love
fillets because I just, I I just

658
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440
you know high I'm high
maintenance you know.

659
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,480
Dude, you can't go wrong with a
good fillet.

660
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,680
No.
Hell no.

661
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600
You know, you ever had any
Kobeef Kobe beef?

662
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,200
I have never had Kobe beef.
I hear Joe Rogan talk about it

663
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200
all the time.
It's, it's, it's, it's.

664
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Oh, does he?
Yeah, he likes it.

665
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Yeah, it's it's pretty legit,
man.

666
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Right on.
Where did you have the Kobe beef

667
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,600
at?
It's good.

668
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,240
I don't.
It's super expensive.

669
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:09,320
So buy at a restaurant like
maestros or something, you know,

670
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,440
fancy, fancy spot.
But I won't, I won't, You know,

671
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160
I'm not going to go buy Kobe
beef just to.

672
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,000
It's got to be one of those
things, you know?

673
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,320
But yeah, it was good.
It was for sure good.

674
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Yeah, we have some amazing.
That's one of the nice things

675
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,760
about living in the Midwest is
they do have some amazing beef.

676
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Right, because you have all the
cows there.

677
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,920
And I guess apparently the grain
fed is better than the grass

678
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,920
fed.
Really.

679
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Taste wise, not health wise I.
Thought recently was grass fed?

680
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,240
Oh yeah.
Yeah, so from what I understand

681
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:53,960
because the.
Grass.

682
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,320
Nikki Nikki Likes what?
We what I understand is the

683
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,440
grass fed is healthier for you
because the cat, the cow is

684
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,240
actually eating what they're
supposed to be eating versus

685
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,960
eating that mix that they give
them, which is you know, ground

686
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,720
up with part of themselves.
So they're actually cannibals at

687
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,160
that point, right?
That's fun.

688
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,400
I think it's just a mix of a
bunch of stuff they give them,

689
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,040
you know, they call it grain
fed, but I'm not sure it's all

690
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:31,320
100% grain, you know, but it
makes them amazing beef lot.

691
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Of lot of one of the steroids
and, yeah, steroids and all that

692
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,800
kind of stuff.
Yeah, and the inoculations and

693
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,720
whatever.
The fuck.

694
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,200
All that jazz.
Yeah, they're killing us slowly.

695
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Yeah, you know, that's why you
got to buy your own dead cows.

696
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Let somebody else kill it,
though, and process it.

697
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,560
It's easier that way.
You know, just flip the bill.

698
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,480
That's what my brother does.
And then he just went up and got

699
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
him a deer in Wisconsin.
Does he Matt?

700
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

701
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Yeah.
Matt stocks his.

702
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,320
Brother Matt, right on.
Yeah, he stocks his freezer

703
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,600
with, I don't know, they buy a
half a cow and then him and his

704
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,000
wife go up to Wisconsin to her
parents property and her

705
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,320
relatives properly property
somebody's and shoot a deer

706
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,400
every year.
And then they have that

707
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,760
processed and they put that in
their freezer and Oh yeah, we

708
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,560
love seeing them.
But the holidays because they

709
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,840
got all the good deer sausage,
buddy, that's delicious.

710
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
I'm not sure if you've ever had
venison sausage, but it's

711
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,920
amazing.
I don't know if I have or not.

712
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Oh, out of sight.
I know if I did right.

713
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Yeah, it's got a very distinct
flavor to it.

714
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Hold on.
I've noticed that when we buy

715
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,920
the the dead cow like the beef,
Nikki likes to taste better

716
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,680
because it doesn't taste like,
you know, over the counter

717
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,840
processed beef.
It's, well, it.

718
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Doesn't have that smell to it.
It's processed the way it's

719
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,480
supposed to be by a, you know.
Supposed to be right?

720
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Master Craftsman butcher.
And it's wrapped in the right

721
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,040
paper and, you know, stored the
right way.

722
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,400
And there's a way that meat is
supposed to be prepared and

723
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,640
processed, and put on a little
Styrofoam tray with a shrink

724
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
wrap around it is not the way
it's supposed to be presented.

725
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:39,320
Agreed, agreed 100% and just
from the taste of it for sure.

726
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Yes, we totally got off topic
when I went to the bathroom.

727
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Sorry about that.
No, it's all good.

728
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,960
That's kind of what happens on
these things.

729
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,760
Sometimes that's what makes them
fun, you know, we're not 100%

730
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,360
professionals here, ladies and
gentlemen.

731
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
We're just kind of winging it.
We're flying by the seat of our

732
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
pants, as it were, and we're
learning as we go.

733
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,840
And we hope you're having fun
along the way.

734
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
I know that you don't care about
these things, but we have been

735
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,720
picking up subscribers and
listeners and they're, you know,

736
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,440
digging the stories about the
band.

737
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,360
And we've had people chiming in
on the Spotify.

738
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,240
They have a place where they can
talk about what they think about

739
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,600
the show, so if you get on the
Spotify page, you yourself will

740
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,560
be able to see your fans
commenting to you.

741
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,080
Oh, right on, There's a few.
Of them, you know we have.

742
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080
We have some loyal followers so
far.

743
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,920
They're few, but they're mighty.
Hey, it's got to start

744
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,520
somewhere.
Absolutely.

745
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,080
And that's what everybody keeps
saying.

746
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,720
And I've had just amazing
positive affirmations for this.

747
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,400
And everybody's been telling us
to keep going and they enjoy

748
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,400
listening and have encountered
at least three or four or five

749
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,600
people that have told me that
that's their Monday afternoon or

750
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,400
Monday morning activity as they
listen to the podcast.

751
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,920
So thank you guys for doing
that.

752
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,760
Hopefully we keep you
entertained and make your hour

753
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,520
go by or hour and a half or
however long this thing is.

754
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Yeah, it's really cool, man.
So my friend, Mandy's one of

755
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,600
them.
She'll be listening to it Monday

756
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,840
afternoon while she's doing her
financial secretary duties at

757
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,320
the union hall.
So shout out to Mandy.

758
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640
Oh, Oh yeah.
Hello, Mandy.

759
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Mandy.
Mandy.

760
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,400
Mandy, AKA Sunshine.
At one point in time, she was a

761
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,680
boxer.
She was a female.

762
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Oh, the Mandy was a female boxer
when I was working for this

763
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,440
broker's years ago.
I guess, hold on a second I I

764
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
guess I got to give a shout out
to Harvey now too, because her

765
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,760
husband also listens, so we got
him as a subscriber.

766
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Oh.
So we'll give a shout out to

767
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,160
Harve too.
Wow.

768
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,840
So, Harvey.
Who recently got day shift?

769
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,400
That's a good name at his job,
so congratulations to Harvey.

770
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Was he doing nights?
Oh yeah, he was.

771
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,000
He was on the 3rd shift working
12 hour days, man, as a manager

772
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,360
out there where I work it.
Oh.

773
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,960
So yeah, he's super happy to be
on day shift now.

774
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,360
So if he's listening,
congratulations bro, you deserve

775
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,800
it, right?
On Congratulations, Harvey.

776
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Yeah, America loves you.
So if we can get everybody to

777
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,360
keep sharing this and telling
their friends about it, and I've

778
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,280
made the joke that even if we
annoy you, tell your enemies

779
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,240
about it, You know, the more
hits and the more followers we

780
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:51,560
get, the more successful this is
going to be and we'll be able to

781
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,040
bring, you know, more guests and
more content.

782
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,720
So we can't get the kind of.
Yeah, and.

783
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,480
We can't get the kind of footing
that we need until we get over

784
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,560
that hump.
So every little bit helps and I

785
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,520
appreciate every what
everybody's been doing.

786
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,520
It's awesome.
Yeah, and I I I need to follow

787
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,400
up with the the graphic designer
about our logo and shit because

788
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,080
I'm.
Not, yeah.

789
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,160
Where's our logo, man?
I want.

790
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,440
To do the Facebook and Instagram
pages.

791
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,240
I don't know.
I I like.

792
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,880
I got to find out what's up,
man.

793
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,160
I got to find out, hey, why?
You know that sparks a story.

794
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Do you remember Rob, the
disappearing artist?

795
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Oh, right on story time.
Rob the disappearing artist.

796
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,320
He's the guy that did the
nemesis.

797
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,680
Logo.
I don't think so.

798
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Remember, he drew the mock of
the Nemesis logo.

799
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,320
That became the logo because we
could never find him again.

800
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,440
You cut out.
He did what?

801
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,720
He drew the the like the mock up
of the Nemesis logo which ended

802
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,360
up becoming the logo because we
could never find him again.

803
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Right on, he just vanished in
the middle of the night out of

804
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,200
his apartment.
Disappearing.

805
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Wow.
Oh, that's not good.

806
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Then I went down there and
knocked on the door one day and

807
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,400
the dude was gone.
So we ended up with what we

808
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,800
ended up with, which I think you
said you still got a T-shirt,

809
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,920
right?
Did I lose you again?

810
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,280
Maybe for a second, Yeah.
Don't you still have that shirt?

811
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,840
When I first jumped on here my
Internet I do.

812
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,000
I got to.
I got to find it all.

813
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,960
If I can find it, I'll wear next
next week.

814
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,240
I found I was moving some stuff
looking for Christmas or

815
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Christmas stuff because we put
Christmas stuff up on

816
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Thanksgiving weekend.
And I found I found the the last

817
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:52,320
bands tote, you know with the
CDs and the the.

818
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,720
Marketing of which I think I'm
getting new Internet, so I need

819
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,600
that as well.
You got what?

820
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,200
You got What Internet?
Oh, you froze again.

821
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,760
Did you freeze up on me again?
I'm.

822
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,240
I'm.
There's a message on here,

823
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,800
folks, and I got to read it and
I don't have my glasses on.

824
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Oh.
I think he froze up on me.

825
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,480
So I think I am currently the
only one on here or we are both

826
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,880
talking at the same time.
I'm.

827
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,520
Here and I'm here.
We're both talking.

828
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,560
I'm not sure we're talking at
the same time every now and then

829
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,600
we're. 2. 1000 miles apart, so
just.

830
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,480
Wasting time away.
This is not perfect, but this is

831
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,360
the first time it's ever
actually frozen up to.

832
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,880
The point cover it up so.
The rest of the times, you guys

833
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,160
just didn't know it was
happening or it was just

834
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,240
slightly annoying, but this one
is annoying for even me because

835
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,320
his screen's frozen.
So we're going to stop this now

836
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:37,920
and it says he's still here.
I don't know,

837
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Pardon the Interruption.
We're going to have to figure

838
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:55,000
out what's going on here, Mike.
Mike.

839
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,920
Hey.
I was just calling you while you

840
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,000
were calling me.
That's crazy.

841
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,520
Hey, so this is Chris Dunham
live on the podcast because he's

842
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,760
frozen up on my screen.
What's funny?

843
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,640
Is I'm not frozen on my screen.
So did you hear me talking the

844
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,600
whole time then?
I did and then I was.

845
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,520
I did, and I'm doing all kinds
of weird hand gestures and

846
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,840
running down the halls and
making silly faces.

847
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,000
So it'll it'll be interesting to
see what happens when you when

848
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,880
we stop this, which we should
stop this if one of us is frozen

849
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,800
OK and upload it and see what
happens.

850
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Hold on one second.
OK.

851
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going
to end this here.

852
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,560
So thanks for bearing with us.
Normally we don't have these

853
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,520
kind of horrendous catastrophes,
but we did today, so I guess

854
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
this will just be funny.
Until next time, Peace.

855
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,800
All right.
Yeah, we'll see what happens

856
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:23,920
the.