#8 - Merry Christmas!!

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And we're live.
Ladies.

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And gentlemen, we are live well.
Well, you and I are live.

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We're live.
We're are live.

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We are not Memorex.
I like it.

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I like that groove.
I need to put some lyrics to

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that that.
'D be awesome.

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That's my that's my applause.
Meter.

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I'll see what I can do to up
that.

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So before we got on the air
here, I was going through the

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Nemesis archives, which I don't
have a lot of, but apparently I

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saved every clipping of every
show we ever played.

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Because I do have about 200 of
those.

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And I just recently had a
conversation a friend of mine,

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Tony Palmer, who's going to be a
guest on this podcast and

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unbeknownst to me.
A guest on the podcast Tony

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Palmer Palmer Palmer Palmer
Palmer.

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Unbeknownst to me, he played at
a band called The Beat Angels,

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and they gigged at the Mason Jar
the same time we did.

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Because on this billing right
here that I hold in my hand is

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the Beat Angels headlining a
benefit the day before we

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played.
We're down here on Sunday, I

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think.
That or no, we're on Monday.

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They were on Saturday.
Sunday anyway.

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It's crazy.
I did not know him then.

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And he became my assistant
manager when I worked at Guitar

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Center and that's how I know
him.

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So we were having a conversation
about him being on the podcast

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and he said I noticed you guys
played at the Mason Jar or

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something like that.
Oh, he was commenting on one of

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our threads and he said he
played in a band called the Beat

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Angels.
And I said I remember that name,

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but I had no idea that he was in
the band.

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So that's awesome.
So we'll talk about our days

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playing at the Mason Jar that
was run by the Mighty Franco.

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The mighty, mighty Franco.
He was about 5. .2 Hey, it's

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Tuesday, it's Tuesday, it's
Tuesday.

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Yeah, clogs, it's Tuesday.
Did did you know that?

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I did know that because you're
here and I'm here, so that must

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mean it's Tuesday.
How's the how's my Internet

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connection holding up?
Are you hearing me in a timely

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manner still?
I'm hearing you.

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I am hearing you just fine.
Thank you.

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Awesome, because that makes this
a lot easier and more pleasant

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for both of us.
That's fine.

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It clears up in the final
product.

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Nice.
Have you happened upon any of

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the podcast yet?
Do you know what they look like?

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I I I I listened and no way.
And I laughed.

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And it was fun.
Awesome.

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Yeah.
Because you 2 count as a

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listener.
You know, on my little count

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that I'm keeping track of.
Oh.

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Thank you.
Thank.

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You thank thank you to everyone
that has gone over to Spotify

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and followed us there.
I have noticed the numbers

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increasing and that helps us.
It gives us Oh.

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Right on.
It gives us the exposure we need

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to move on to the next stage.
So you know, the better this

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gets, the better product we can
bring you.

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All the world's a stage and we
are many players.

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We are merely players.
Performers and portrayers.

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It's about this audience.
Yeah, right.

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And you know what?
That kind of segues in a weird

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way, because it's like, what are
we going to talk about today?

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Then I remembered I told you,
hey dude, we should talk about

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drummers.
Because, you know, drummers.

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You can't have a band without a
drummer.

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I guess you could.
Drummer You don't have to.

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It would not be cool.
And I put no.

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And I had posted a picture
because I was.

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I was sprawling on the interweb
the other day.

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Well, when I'm Naked on my couch
eating a block of cheese, I

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don't eat cheese.
Nor do I am allergic to dairy.

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And I was like.
I was like right, right.

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Oh, you are.
That's right.

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I'm.
I'm a dairy free by choice.

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You're dairy free by birth.
You would get along great on

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tour, like just because of our,
our dietary habits would be,

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would be, you know, very
fantastic.

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Yes.
Yep, the universe made me dairy

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free.
So yeah.

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And I made myself dairy free.
So drummers, if we just just

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fucking dive right in.
Drummers.

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The greatest drummers of all
time.

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And there should be I I post
this.

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I posted this question on on our
Facebook page for you boys and

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girls that don't know that we
have a Facebook page called

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Chris and Mike Show not the just
Chris and Mike Show spelled out.

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And is is a word, not a symbol.
And I'm looking at the page

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right now as we speak because
that's the power of the

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Internet.
I said at some point in time,

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well, guess what, boys and
girls, it's time.

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Here we are.
Unless you would talk about

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something else, Mike, you know,
do you feel like, I feel like I

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kind of railroad sometimes?
No, it's it's all good.

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Man, so you know, I love debate
with the great I I know, I know,

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I know.
So we're going to discuss who's

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the greatest drummer of all time
now.

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I think in the top three you got
to have Neil Pert, you got to

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have John Bonham, you know,
maybe Charlie Watts because he

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was, he's known as a human
metronome.

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So he may not have been just
like an insane over the top in

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your face pounding drummer, but
he was definitely just he he

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kept the he while he was still
alive because he's dead.

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If he didn't know, he kept the
entire band in time live.

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Because we all know, I mean
musicians know you and I know

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this Mike that when you play
live it's speed up, just natural

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the energy you have.
Even if it's never so slightly.

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The adrenaline, right, Even just
the adrenaline and that nervous

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energy.
Like, I was never nervous, but I

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always had that nervous energy
like let's get out there and and

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you know that because I would
pace, but Charlie Watts would

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would keep them in check because
they they really, they called

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them the human metronome.
I don't know who called them

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that, but I remember hearing
that and I was like, that's

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brilliant because the metronome
keeps everything steady and, you

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know, in time and Charlie just
had that innate ability to keep

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everybody on the stones in
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That is a.
Very true.

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So that's and Rick Allen.
OK.

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Yeah, yeah, right.
I'll agree with that.

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Go ahead.
Elaborate, Mr. No, he's he can

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be, you know, me.
I can get like totally nerdy

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about what are we trying to say
is the best, you know, technical

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ability, holding the band
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Because if we're going to talk
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drummers of all time, you have
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You have to throw Phil Rudd in
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one of the tightest bands on
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I've witnessed it with my own
eyes and if they made a mistake,

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I never heard it.
And they didn't really play up

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tempo to the point where it was
even hardly noticeable.

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It was amazing at how precise
their music really is.

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I'm going to agree with you,
John Bonham, in my opinion.

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Phil Rudd.
Phil Yeah, Phil Rudd from ACDC.

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Phil Phil Rudd, right?
Correct.

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When you look up ACDC, you're
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drummers.
You're going to find Simon

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Wright, You're going to find
Phil Rudd.

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I think there was one more.
But Simon Wright, what he was a,

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he was a good drummer, but he
ACD CS claim to fame is Phil

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Rudd had a knack for what they
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even just an extra millisecond
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And what that does is it creates
an anticipation in the listener

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that they're unaware of.
It's like your mind keeps

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wanting something to happen that
never happens because he's

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dragging that beat ever so
slightly and it just makes you

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feel like, you know, it makes
you feel the music, it's it

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sucks.
You in Bottom had that same

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ability.
And that's what I was about to

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say is in my opinion, John
Bottom is the greatest drummer

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that ever lived because he was
required to play so many

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different styles of music.
Florida State Led Zeppelin

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wasn't just a rock band.
They were a reggae band.

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They were a country band.
They were a bluegrass band.

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They, I mean, they played so
many styles of music and Jimmy

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Page knew that the person that
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somebody special.
Not taking anything away from

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Neil Pert, he technical ability.
Neil Pert might be the best

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drummer that ever lived.
Technically, he he's a human

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metronome.
You want to talk about different

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metronomes?
That dude was amazing.

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Right.
And and and Pert and and bottom.

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Two different completely styles.
Like their styles are not the

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same at all.
Like no, you just you know what

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I mean.
And and and Pert was was more

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than just a drummer.
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He was.
He wrote the songs.

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He wrote the lyrics.
He was also a published author.

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The guy was just had such an
analytical mind and a brilliant

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human being which I think goes
in in line with with a drummer

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because drummers have to be
analytical.

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They have to they just have to
have that.

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I mean you're sitting behind a
drum kit and and you you know

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it's it's it's not the most
glamorous gig in the world and

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and you're you're sitting down
for an entire show, which I

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could never do and you're
banging on a drum set and that's

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the cool thing about what that
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The cool thing about Scott with
Nemesis is that he he would

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change the identity of a song
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Like I would have a certain a
certain melody in my head with

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verse chorus.
You and I would work on a guitar

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and vocal and then all of a
sudden we'd we'd you know then

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Scott would come on it's like
holy shit, like Intervention

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Divine.
He he took Intervention Divine,

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one of our songs, to a whole new
level that that I don't think

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anybody could ever match again
because it was that good what he

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did to that song.
He taught me so much about not

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only composing, but he taught me
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So what he did for you in
changing how you thought about

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melody and what you were going
to do with a song, he did the

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same for me in that he allowed
me to develop layers of my

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playing.
So, you know, we would have what

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I called actually, I stole it
from Jimmy Page.

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So we'll give credit where
credit's due shades of light and

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Gray into black.
You know, you can't just pummel

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an audience.
You have to build them up and

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then you have to pummel them.
And then maybe you take them to

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another place for a second, you
know, and then you pummel them

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again.
And then you either end it there

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or you bring it down.
But you have to take them on a

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journey.
So that seems kind of, you know,

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duh.
But a lot of songs just never go

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anywhere.
You know, great songs, great

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songs are like watching a great
movie.

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You know, they make your mind go
somewhere that you never thought

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that it could or I don't know,
you know, just.

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It's a journey.
It's a journey that's that's

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that's one things I liked about
the the songwriting process is,

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is that roller coaster ride.
You know, like you take them,

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you take them down here, you
know and then you just slowly

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build up the melody and the
music and then you hit the

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chorus and it's like and then
you come back down off the

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roller coaster to you know the
second set of verses and and

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just it's.
I've always liked that that the

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the the dynamics of songwriting
in them, not necessarily the

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music getting louder but getting
heavier.

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You know, and may start cleaning
turns heavy and distortion and

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then like Nirvana like for lack
of Smells Like Teen Spirit was

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just.
An epic Think about the.

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Roller coaster ride because it's
oh thank you because he starts

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out you know really just soft
and quiet and then it's just and

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and oh and a Creep Radio had
another good example of that.

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Absolutely.
You know that's this is the

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favorite, right?
Those are the songs I liked

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writing with us.
It's just a take on those

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journeys and and Sonic, you'd
hear it, then you'd feel it and

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well more the more of of.
Go ahead.

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Go ahead.
No I was gonna say the the more

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the more power that that those
songs how they develop which is

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to me was I don't know it's just
I we've talked about it before I

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think off air that that for me
to get behind I was never big in

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the covers.
I mean per SE, as far as singing

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them, because I couldn't get
behind the emotion that the

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writers felt when they wrote it.
I completely.

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So much of the instrumentation
in a band, right.

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And so much of the
instrumentation side of the band

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helps with that emotion and
especially how you and I would

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write and you would capture my,
my, I don't know my mood but

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just my words and it was just
cool so you know but that so

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that's kind of you know to
Tooting our own drummers horn.

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Scott was brilliant at what he
did and made our songs different

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then I may have heard them in my
head or you may have heard them

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in your head.
Once we got him involved and he

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started throwing down his his
his beats to it, it was it was

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cool.
It was cool.

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It was cool to watch that
dynamic and and see and you

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know, I had heard.
For those that are unaware,

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Scott and I had another bass
player and he was also our

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singer to start with and it just
didn't work out.

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We went to play our first gig
and we were on stage at the

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Electric Ballroom in the main
room, which you know, holds, I

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don't know, close to 2000
people, 1500, something like

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that.
It was a big room and this guy

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had complete stage fright and it
just took the will of the

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universe to get him on stage.
And after that, Scott said, you

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know, this can never happen
again.

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So we let him go and we started
practicing it in Scott's living

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room and that's where him and I
really got to know each other as

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musicians.
So one of the funniest stories

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that we ever had together was I
was trying to convey what I

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wanted, which is everything you
described in what became

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Nemesis.
Sound.

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Say that three times.
Nemesis sound.

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So sound Nemesis.
The sound nemesis the sound.

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Thank you.
This particular night we were,

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you know, jamming away and I'm
trying to get across to him that

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I want him to play more, you
know?

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Thank you, thank you, thank you
so.

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You're welcome.
You're welcome.

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He's, he just stopped in the
middle of the song and he said

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I'm going to tell you one thing
right now.

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He's like, I've played in a lot
of bands and I've jammed with a

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lot of musicians and nobody ever
told me to hit the drums harder

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or to play more.
So I'll do the best I can.

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And what became our sound is
every day forward from that

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particular day.
I was like, dude, I'm just

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looking for you to.
When things get really like you

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said, the distortion kicks in,
the song picks up, I'm looking

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for the drums to take over.
I don't want to be the star of

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the show, I want the song to be
the star of the show.

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Thank you.
Thank you right there.

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That was not interested in being
the star.

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Right, that.
But that sums up the entire

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existence of how we wrote songs
and shit like we none of us

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wanted to be the star.
We just wanted to write really

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good songs, go on stage, kick
ass and and have fun doing it

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and connect with people
afterwards.

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Yes, I will.
Yeah, exactly.

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We're going to, we're going to
start posting some of these

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things on the day that they
happen, but I'll give you a

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sneak peek.
I got tons of these.

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Oh, right on.
So this is when we had our

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development deal with Metal
Blade and for those that don't

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know, a development deal is a
fancy way of saying you can use

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our name, what you see right
here.

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We were allowed to use their
name, but we're not going to

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give you any money.
We're just going to sit back and

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see what happens they.
Tell you right.

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You know, you're more than
welcome to say that you're

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signed to Metal Blade, but we're
not giving you an advance and

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we're not giving you any
advertising.

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And you're on your own.
Good graces.

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So while they believed in us,
they didn't believe in us enough

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to give us any money.
Boo.

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Yeah, that's what we got.
Crickets.

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Crickets.
It was the best, best $5

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investment ever.
And then I had this booing.

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I like your shirt by the way.
Thank you.

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Be kind.
We today my, my my brokerage

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that I worked for everybody has
a job.

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My job.
I don't really call it a job but

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I'm the real estate guy for
those who don't know and I help

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people buy and sell houses and
I'm love what I do.

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So so a few times a month, 3 * a
month I actually, I help

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coordinate meals to feed
homeless here in the in in in

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Arizona.
And one of the things my

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brokerage does is we start in
December and we start collecting

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canned foods.
We with the community.

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The community helps us do this.
It's not just us, you know,

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30-40 Realtors doing it.
We have the community help us do

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so and that's a lot of
communities, neighborhoods and

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stuff in downtown Phoenix area,
some high rise communities.

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I actually got Orange Theory
Fitness where I worked out, so

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that went to stick a box in the
lobby.

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So today we put all that
together.

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I'll throw the little reel up on
on the page.

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We put all that together and
we're waiting to find out how

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many pounds we actually provided
anywhere between 6 and 8000 lbs

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of food.
We dropped off today at Saint

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Mary's Food Bank, which in
Arizona, that's in the east, in

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the in the Phoenix metro area
anyway, that is the main food

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bank that kind of drives all the
food to the different shelters

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and stuff in Phoenix and the
East Valley and West Valley and

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whatnot.
So it's pretty cool.

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It was fun to do it and we had a
blast.

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And yeah, so you know, you don't
have to.

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You don't have to.
What's the word?

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Giving.
Giving is easy because old is

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it's time.
So if you have time to give,

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even if it's an hour, 2 hours, 3
hours a week, find someplace and

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go give your time.
It's it's a good thing, you

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know.
You'll you'll feel better for

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doing it.
And it's good karma and it looks

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good on your soul, you know?
That's awesome.

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I was just recently reminded of
being, I don't know, 10-12,

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something like that.
And my mom made us kids give up,

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you know, so many things that we
were going to take, like you

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said to the.
Right.

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Catholic Church up there and
Saint Vincent DePaul is the one

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that we give at the time.
That's who we gave to.

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So you know, you box up all your
stuff and you take it up there

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and most people pull around back
and drop their stuff off.

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Oh no.
My mom parked right out front

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and made us walk past all those
people who had nothing that were

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there to pick up food and oh, a
few Christmas gifts for the

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kids.
Way to go, Mom.

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Absolutely, because I remember
it to this day.

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And there was a little girl
there that she couldn't have

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been more than like 6.
And she wanted my sister's

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winter coat.
And yeah, you know, all these

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kids are asking for all these
things right now for Christmas.

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And for the people that are
listening to the story.

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I have a hard time telling the
story without crying.

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So I'm doing the best I can.
But this little girl, all she

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wanted for Christmas was this
coat man, you know?

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And even as a little kid, it hit
me hard.

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I was like, I want a race track
and I want GI Joe guys or

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whatever, whatever I wanted at
the time, You know, man, was the

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most important thing to me in
the world.

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And then I saw somebody who just
wanted to stay warm, you know?

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And I remember it to this day.
And that's why, you know,

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material things don't impress me
at all.

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What impresses me is humanity.
I don't give a shit what you do

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for a living.
I don't give a shit how much

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money you have.
You're never going to impress me

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with that.
I don't care.

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I think it's cool you have a
yacht.

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I think it's cool You own a
75,000 square foot house.

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That's great.
I've admire.

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I not admire.
I I I think that's cool.

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But that's not what makes me get
up in the you know, hearing a

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story like that.
You're telling the story because

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you did it and we're here and
this is our forum.

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You're not one to brag.
You just say go.

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I did it, go do it.
And that's important that people

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see that message.
You know, it's not hey look at

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what I did.
It's you are always saying I

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went and did this.
You know, you should go do

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something like this too.
I think that's cool because some

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people just.
Absolutely, Yeah.

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Because I don't.
They're busy.

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Agreed.
And I don't.

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I don't, right.
And I don't, I don't ever really

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point out the shit that I do
because I just.

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I just don't.
But when it when it's on a

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platform that I can help, you
know, potentially inspire others

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to go give of their time
selflessly, then why not, you

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know?
But I won't.

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You will never see me.
Oh, look at me, look at me, look

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at me, look at me.
You know, like I made videos of

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what we did today, but it was
more, more to show others, hey,

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this is what we're doing today.
This is, this is where the food

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comes.
This Is Us that we've collected

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all this food.
And then and so I kind of showed

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them the process like this is,
this is how the process works.

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We're going to take this food.
We're going to take it over

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here.
They're going to, they're going

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to take it from us.
They're going to box it up.

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They're going to weigh it and
then we're going to find out

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exactly how much tonnage, not
really tonnage, but well, I

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guess a ton is 2000 lbs.
So correct.

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It's it's possible that, you
know, we have 3 tons of food

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that we kicked out today.
We'll find out, you know.

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That's something that so.
That's our local, so it's not.

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Women's It's.
Never about me.

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It's never a hazard of the UAW,
but if I can get other.

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People, they did the same kind
of thing.

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They did a food drive, they
raised.

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I don't know.
Much as I possibly.

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Can 400 and some pounds of food.
So you know with everything with

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like you know if if you know
we're on the cusp of doing

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something and being you know
household names and I, I, I

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fully believe that if we had
gone to yeah I'm still here you

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still here.
I'm here.

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I'm here.
I know what he's saying.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Because we've been through this

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before, but.
This is the applause, which is

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really weird because this is
what is Mike's getting.

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Hopefully I didn't lose my
Internet.

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Again, he's getting crickets.
That's.

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What happened last time fucking
Internet went out?

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So it's really starting.
Here's the weird thing about the

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Internet you need to have Yeah,
it is.

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You know, Internet is crazy
crazy crazy crazy.

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Oh, look, Mike's calling me.
Let's see what Mike has to say.

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Hello, Mike.
Can you hear me again?

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I.
I can hear you.

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I've been hearing you the whole
time.

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Can you hear me?
No, not at all.

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Yeah, no, I can hear you.
I can see you.

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It's, it's, it's, it's amazing,
you know?

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There you are, like right there.
You can't see me waving to you.

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I'm waving.
Hello.

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No, you're a black screen and I
got you just like we're gone.

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Like in a second.
Huh.

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Let me see.
Let me see if it's my Internet.

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Because my Internet, it can be
kind of crazy sometimes too, you

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know?
So let me circle my other window

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and see if it pops up.
No.

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Yeah, it's popping up.
No issues there.

452
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800
I want to start telling you a
story and like, right as soon as

453
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,560
I started talking, it dropped
out.

454
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,480
Well, maybe the story wasn't
supposed to be told.

455
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,640
That is a great I got somebody
that's posted that Lethal

456
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Weapons of Christmas movie, so I
got to chime in and that that's

457
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,360
a great fucking movie.
It's a great fucking movie.

458
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,280
And the crazy thing is, is I
don't know.

459
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,680
I don't even know how I get you
back on here in the same

460
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,000
session.
You know what I'm saying?

461
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:48,440
Yeah.
Yes, hold on one second.

462
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800
Maybe we can access.
Ladies and gentlemen, there

463
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,440
might be a way to fix this.
Let me see.

464
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:03,000
I might just fuck it all up
right here because there's a

465
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,560
place that says leave Studio and
then underneath it it says End

466
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Session for All, which we don't
want to do.

467
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,200
Homeless.
No, we don't want.

468
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:27,480
OK.
Oh,

469
00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:58,980
there is hope.
There's always hope.

470
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,840
Hold on.
I got to do.

471
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Where's my oh, shit.
So you can see me, but I can't

472
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,480
see you.
Is that what's going on here?

473
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,800
Can you hear me?
Still on the phone?

474
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,360
Yeah, I'm still here.
Oh, there you go.

475
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,680
I got him back, people.
Hello.

476
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Now I can hear you again, OK.
Oh, I'm going to hang up the

477
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,400
phone now.
Sorry about that people.

478
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,400
Technology is not perfect
apparently, but I do know how to

479
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,040
get him back now I just got to
leave myself and join the studio

480
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,320
again.
So there we go.

481
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,920
That's what you call learning on
the fly.

482
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,240
Right, learning on the fly.
Because I'm not going to lie.

483
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,120
On the fly.
I learned how to run the studio

484
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,640
part of this, and then I never
really dove any deeper into that

485
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880
to figure out what would happen
in an emergency.

486
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,400
So I really just figured it out.
Right on.

487
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:10,960
So Jake is committed to next
week, next Tuesday.

488
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,040
Tell him thank you.
For my son, I'm.

489
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Looking forward to talking to
him.

490
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Yes, Jake, the Marine.
I have something.

491
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
I have something funny.
Hold on.

492
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160
You're going to be dead air.
Oh fuck.

493
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Don't do that.
No, we won't be dead air.

494
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,800
I'll entertain them.
I was sitting OK, entertained.

495
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,360
I'm entertaining now, so this
week in the news, No, not

496
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,000
really.
I would like to say thank you to

497
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,080
everybody who has followed the
Facebook page and for those of

498
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,520
you who have not gone over to
Spotify and click the follow

499
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,080
button, even if Spotify is not
your chosen platform, if you

500
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120
would just click that follow
button for me that really helps

501
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,120
us immensely.
Everything is metrics driven, so

502
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,840
you know they got analytics that
you have to meet and the more

503
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,840
people that actually follow the
podcast the better off we are as

504
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,640
far as keeping this thing
rolling for you guys.

505
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560
So thank you very much for doing
that.

506
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,920
I appreciate it.
This is cardboard cut out, Jake.

507
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Cardboard cut out Jake So Jake
is actually the first official

508
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,560
guest on the podcast Jake and
not AS.

509
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,520
Himself.
Yeah, right.

510
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Cardboard cut out.
Jake was the 1st.

511
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Guest.
He's a Marine, United States

512
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,440
Marine, United States Marine.
This is when he got his.

513
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520
I believe that is him getting
his his either his Lance

514
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Corporal or his, whichever one's
higher certification or or

515
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,160
promotion.
He is currently a Sergeant, yes.

516
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,680
So the he is a Sergeant he's
going he's home until the middle

517
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,280
of January and we're looking
then he goes back to yeah and he

518
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,520
goes back to Japan for a couple
months and it comes back to San

519
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,520
Diego to join drill instructor
boot camp because he's been he's

520
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640
made drill instructor.
So then he'll be a drill

521
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,280
instructor for three years in
San Diego.

522
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Rock this thing so tight.
That's what she said.

523
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Not enough time, Not enough.
Time.

524
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,920
Horrible place to have to do
your drill Instructing San

525
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Diego, CA.
That's just awful.

526
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Poor kid.
Right. 22 years, that's why.

527
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,880
He had boot camp at the same
space.

528
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Fucking San Diego.
I'd be in hell.

529
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Of course.
I was 22 year old, 22 years old

530
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,000
in Phoenix, playing in a rock
band.

531
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,960
So I was in heaven too.
And I'll I'll champion that

532
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,280
statement.
Yeah, one thing we did is have

533
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,080
fucking fun.
We.

534
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Had we did have fucking fun all
the time.

535
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960
There's no way.
There's no other way to put it.

536
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Yes, every day.
For those that are unaware, we

537
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920
were not weekend warriors.
We were either practicing every

538
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,560
day or we had a gig.
And a lot of times we were

539
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,360
playing multiple gigs a week and
then in between we would

540
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,960
practice every day.
So I kind of had a full time

541
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,880
job.
I went there when I wanted to.

542
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760
I had.
A really cool job that that.

543
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My.

544
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Job.
This is something.

545
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Since that I I ran a group home
Mr. Middleman.

546
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,240
I remember that this is
something that even the.

547
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Ability because I.
The fact that I said this would,

548
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,880
this would be something that
even my family would probably be

549
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,080
surprised about.
Because, you know, I was working

550
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,040
for a family run business and
they basically just let me come

551
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880
to work when I wanted to and
they paid me for the hours that

552
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440
I worked and then the rest of
the time we were doing the band.

553
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,280
So it wasn't like I was working
8 hours a day, 40 hours a week.

554
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120
I was basically going in there
and doing what they needed of

555
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,880
me, which took me, I don't know,
three days a week, four or five

556
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,200
hours a day.
It wasn't really, you know, it

557
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,400
wasn't an everyday commitment.
So I'm sure that's news to even

558
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360
my family, which is probably why
I had trouble paying the bills

559
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,800
if we didn't get paid with the
band.

560
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,280
All this is starting to add up.
Now it's starving right now.

561
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Everybody's starting to realize
what was going on.

562
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Yeah, that's all good.
I was having fucking fun.

563
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Absolutely.
And there is nothing wrong with

564
00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,560
having fun, no.
It's just unfortunate that

565
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,240
things ended the way they did,
but here we are now.

566
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000
You can't change the past.
No you can't.

567
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,639
That was one thing as an addict
that I had to come to terms with

568
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,639
is, you know, 10 seconds ago, 10
minutes ago.

569
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,920
That's in the past and the
future is in the future.

570
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,000
The only thing that I can live
in is right now, where we're at,

571
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440
talking to each other
one-on-one, You know, you can

572
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,400
only live in the present.
Yep.

573
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,760
I don't look too far ahead, and
I definitely don't look behind

574
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,920
unless it's finally, you know, I
try not to dwell on the bad

575
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,639
things unless it's to, unless
it's to tell the stories so that

576
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,280
someone else may not go down
that same path that I did.

577
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,760
That's really the only time I
delve into how bad things got.

578
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,080
Like if you want to go through
this, go ahead, go ahead and

579
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480
keep going down that road.
I'll tell you all the horror

580
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
stories.
I actually just told a piece of

581
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,920
it today.
When I said even six months

582
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,520
after I was clean and sober, I
was going through horrible

583
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,480
paranoia, horrible to the point
where I thought I was going to

584
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,000
have to live the rest of my life
that way.

585
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,440
So, like, you know, if you want
to be an addict, that's what you

586
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,000
have to look forward to in the
end.

587
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:24,960
I personally would not want to
go through it again.

588
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,760
Yeah.
No, I I, I don't remember all of

589
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920
my stuff now because it's been
so long.

590
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,280
I don't know what 19 years this
February.

591
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,000
So I I still remember pieces of
it.

592
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,120
But you know, it's it's, you
know, it's like a lifetime,

593
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,000
right?
I mean 819 years old, nineteen

594
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
years, 18 years is a lifetime,
you know?

595
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,280
So yeah, that's old enough for
somebody to.

596
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Be We have so gotten out.
And become leaders.

597
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,360
And enlist in the military and
vote.

598
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,720
So yeah, we got off.
We still.

599
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,640
Got off topic today.
All this happens.

600
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
All the All the squirrels, so
we.

601
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760
Had technical.
Difficulties did you so so and

602
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,560
the whole the whole reason that
I came up with this drummer.

603
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520
I thing this drummer idea
concept is because I watched

604
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,480
this documentary on Amazon like
Amazon's got music

605
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,920
documentaries.
Do you have Amazon?

606
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,760
Amazon Prime.
I do.

607
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,920
OK.
So Randy Castillo, you know who

608
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,280
Randy Castillo is?
I watched that.

609
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great great rockumentary man.

610
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Like I.
Knew Randy really good.

611
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,400
Aussie.
Right.

612
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,760
And I was.
I was.

613
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,200
I was super stoked when I saw
that as a as a suggestion which

614
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000
I don't know why they suggested
it but and and watching it like

615
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
I really, I only knew I only
knew him from Oz's Ozzy days.

616
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,760
I didn't know everything before
and then everything after.

617
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400
I didn't know he replaced Tommy
because I was never a big Mötley

618
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,680
Crüe fan.
Because Vince Neal.

619
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Yeah, because Vince Neal sounds
like a fucking cat when he sings

620
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,240
on stage and it's just it's not
pleasing for anybody.

621
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,640
Not anymore.
You know, he was amazing.

622
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,360
That's why Auto Tune.
That's why.

623
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Auto, right?
But that's why Auto Tune exists

624
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:27,080
for people like him.
But horrifically like I we won't

625
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
talk about Vince Neil, but I was
just, I was blown away that that

626
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,000
all the different styles of
music that Randy could play and

627
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,520
and the clinics that he would
give And if you watched it so

628
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,240
you know like he didn't prepare
for these things.

629
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,320
He came in and just taught.
And from what everybody was

630
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,560
saying, which, you know, I don't
necessarily always believe when

631
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,800
somebody says after they're
gone, oh, you're such a genuine

632
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,400
human being.
Like, like people need to be

633
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,320
honest.
Like, I've told my kids, like

634
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,240
when I die, you know, point out
that I'm an asshole.

635
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,840
Like I wasn't always this nice
guy that, you know, there were

636
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,360
days where I was just a flat out
prick.

637
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,960
But that's part of being a
human.

638
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Like, you're not perfect.
Nobody's perfect.

639
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,680
So when I'm.
We're we're talking about an

640
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,760
overall lifetime.
You can't just nitpick the band.

641
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200
You can't nitpick the days you
were an asshole.

642
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,400
Well, true 95.
If 95% of the time you were a

643
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160
good person, then you're a good
person, right?

644
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,800
We're fallible or fucking human.
We make mistakes, right?

645
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,600
Right, but I still think that
should be and I've I've.

646
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:29,040
I would consider you a nice.
Guy to say that, Yeah, yeah, I

647
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680
am a nice guy, but I can be an
asshole and that's what needs to

648
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,800
be said.
He was a nice guy, but gosh, you

649
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,320
know, sometimes he was just an
asshole.

650
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,560
Thank you.
Thank you for your honesty.

651
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,560
I'll take that because it's
true.

652
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Everybody has bad days.
Everybody, you know, nobody can.

653
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,880
It's not.
It's not roses and daisies day

654
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600
in and day out and the people
that live their lives like that.

655
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,280
Then when they drop that bomb on
social media that that you know

656
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080
their world's falling apart like
you don't say because you're

657
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,360
you're you're you're painting a
picture that your world's

658
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,240
perfect and nobody's world is
perfect.

659
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,920
It's impossible, absolutely
impossible to have a perfect

660
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,720
world.
I don't care who you are.

661
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,320
Even Jesus didn't have a perfect
world.

662
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,280
Go back to our fifth episode.
We talk about Jesus and religion

663
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,320
and what he encountered.
Because, you know, Mike and I

664
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,640
were there.
You know Mike more than me

665
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160
because he did some
psychedelics, right?

666
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,160
But.
I might have thought the

667
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,760
beginning.
Go to that episode.

668
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,040
No question, Right.
See, there you go.

669
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,440
There you go.
So he was what Mike's done all

670
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,720
the psychedelics for both of us.
You know, I was always that guy

671
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,480
that just, you know, abstained,
which is, you know, fine.

672
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,120
It's it's the each zone.
There's no judgement judgement.

673
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,800
Free zone.
This is the sharing.

674
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,320
Yeah.
We don't this is the this is the

675
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,400
safety tree.
Like old school, old school

676
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,840
scene.
This is the safety tree.

677
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,800
Let me tell you one thing that
is 100% certain is that all the

678
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
times that.
At least while we were in the

679
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,120
band, All the times that we did
drugs, at least Scott and I, it

680
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,000
was for, yeah, scientific
research purposes only.

681
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,960
And I say that in all
seriousness.

682
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,080
That's why I don't.
Because I yeah, yeah, yeah.

683
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,040
We never, we never hurt anybody.
We never forced anybody to do

684
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,640
anything they didn't want to do.
And most of the time it was just

685
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,280
him and I doing shit by
ourselves, you know, just trying

686
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,040
to figure out what life is
about.

687
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,880
You know, we were 19/20/21,
whatever, you know, We were

688
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,440
young.
We wanted to know what life was

689
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,200
for us, not what our parents had
taught us and what society had

690
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,920
taught us.
And we were not going to be the

691
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,680
people, yourself included, to
conform to the way that the

692
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,920
world told us to live.
That's not who we were and

693
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,800
that's not who we are today.
The most disappointing thing to

694
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,400
me is the people that I grew up
with that were fucking rebels

695
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
then and they're goddamn
conservatives now, you know,

696
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,960
they're like, oh, it's so
disappointing, dude, it makes me

697
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960
sick to my stomach.
It's like if you're a rebel,

698
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800
you're a rebel to the end.
Well, you know, a couple kids

699
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,320
and I got a boat payment and
well, I whatever.

700
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,360
It's just disappointing.
It is makes me sad.

701
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Yeah, well that's kind of like
we talked about the religion

702
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,040
thing.
You know how how the the most

703
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360
judgmental people that I've ever
come across in my lifetime are

704
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,840
Christians.
Yet it's it's clearly States and

705
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,480
said Bible.
You know, we talked about that

706
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,160
and the religion episode, which
was #6, tackling the religion

707
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,000
literally.
So go back to the Spotify and

708
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,720
listen to that.
Yes.

709
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560
You know.
And can anybody tell me why the

710
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,760
Spotify Card did not post with
Episode 7?

711
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,960
If there's anybody that can
answer that question, go to

712
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,120
Chris and Mike Show on Facebook
and drop us a comment.

713
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,760
Because no matter what I did, I
could not get that picture to go

714
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,320
with the episode and it's
driving me crazy.

715
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Oh, that's weird.
I tried.

716
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
I tried to post it.
Maybe the size is too big?

717
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,240
No, because all the other ones
posted underneath it.

718
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,800
Things that make you go.
If anybody knows the answer to

719
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,880
that question, just drop us the
answer at Chris and Mike Show on

720
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:33,760
Facebook.
Thank you.

721
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,320
So we picked up a listener from
Hong Kong and we picked up a

722
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,200
listener from Uzbekistan.
Uzbekistan.

723
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,720
We had to look and thank you for
Uzbekistan.

724
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Uzbekistan is north of
Afghanistan for those who are

725
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,400
wandering and apparently I did
some research on Uzbekistan.

726
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680
So if you're our listener, I did
actually look up your country

727
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:04,840
and I learned some things.
So Uzbekistan, which are, is

728
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:13,640
home to one of the oldest
mosques and religious artifacts,

729
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,480
buildings, artwork, and
apparently it is so beautiful

730
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,400
that the Genghis Khan himself
left it alone.

731
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,760
As he was raping and pillaging
Europe, he destroyed Europe,

732
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,440
just destroyed.
For those of you who do not, for

733
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,200
those of you who do not know,
all of us have some Genghis Khan

734
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,200
in him.
That's how many women he raped

735
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,000
in his lifetime.
Even now.

736
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,680
Today, most people on earth have
some Genghis Khan in them.

737
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,440
That's a true statement.
That's crazy.

738
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,600
Uzbekistan is so beautiful that
even the most evil person,

739
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,680
whoever lived, left it alone.
He couldn't bring himself to

740
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,520
destroy it.
So it's very friendly towards

741
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,760
Americans, apparently.
It's a nice place to visit.

742
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,080
I'd actually kind of like to see
it after I read about it.

743
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,240
So thank you for listening,
because I never would have

744
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:07,240
looked up Uzbekistan.
And now I know.

745
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,840
Amazing.
I never would have would have

746
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,520
looked it up either.
I would have thought it was a A

747
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Borat movie, you know?
Oh man, the pictures.

748
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,760
I saw dude were.
Beautiful.

749
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,520
I'd love to see it.
Really.

750
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Yeah, you're talking like
mosques and churches and artwork

751
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
from thousands and thousands of
years ago.

752
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,280
Just absolutely beautiful.
No, Right on.

753
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,280
Absolutely.
That's cool man.

754
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:44,360
So I guess people are finding us
on Spotify on purpose and.

755
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Accidentally which is a good
thing on purpose and

756
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,800
accidentally well.
And I posted a buddy of mine

757
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,480
Brad.
Saint Louis.

758
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,400
Hi Brad.
Hi Brad.

759
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,720
He had he had posted he had
posted something.

760
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,840
What's your favorite podcast.
So of course I said the Chris on

761
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,480
my show and then he said who's
your target audience?

762
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,080
And I said humans because, you
know, I mean I may be an alien,

763
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,080
but are you, you know, not
necessarily.

764
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,080
So I felt it was important to
say humans is what we target you

765
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080
know, for our podcast
listenership.

766
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Because I don't think somebody
in, you know, a planet you know

767
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,960
thousands of miles away may be
able to speak English.

768
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,760
So or or be able to have Google
Translate and hold it to the

769
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,520
computer while they're listening
to this podcast and and let it

770
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,720
translate into other languages.
I know and I would say that you

771
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,640
know, I know you're being funny
on one hand but you're not on

772
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,640
the other because we are trying
to grow a family of like minded

773
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,120
individuals.
That doesn't mean that we're

774
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,280
always going to be like right,
don't mistake, don't mistake me

775
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,960
for I'm not looking for people
to disagree with me because I'm

776
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,240
always looking for people to
disagree with me.

777
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,880
That's how I've become the
person that I am today is

778
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,640
there's people that have
actually changed my mind.

779
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,640
And that's what I'm saying.
Like minded.

780
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
I'm looking for people who
aren't married to their ideas,

781
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680
who can be molded, who can mold
me, who can mold Chris, who can

782
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440
mold our guests.
You know, this is just the

783
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,960
beginning.
You guys are on the beginning of

784
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,960
the ride and that's awesome.
I like to be on the ground floor

785
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,240
of things myself.
I was on the ground floor of

786
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,080
Metallica and I followed their
whole career and it's been

787
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,440
awesome.
So you know, I know what it's

788
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,520
like to be in the beginning.
Cardboard cut out.

789
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,720
Jake is cracking me up in the
background, by the way.

790
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,720
I got, I got another one.
That was his senior prom picture

791
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,040
and he he ensured.
I'm sure he.

792
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Requested for that change it so
I I did that one.

793
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,040
So I'm going to reserve all my
questions for Jake because I

794
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,440
have a lot of questions for him
and I actually have questions

795
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,000
from some of our listeners.
But I do have one question.

796
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,240
As Jake's father, did you know
that he tatted himself up?

797
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,960
I.
Didn't know he did the leg tap.

798
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,360
He.
No, I, I.

799
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,280
All the other ones that he has,
we know about because he's he

800
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,280
shared them with us.
I didn't know he did the leg

801
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,800
tap.
That was a surprise.

802
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Skyler knew.
His sister.

803
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Yeah, his sky his sister knew.
I think probably a lot of his

804
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:22,080
friends that he still has here
knew and I don't know why he

805
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,440
didn't like the the relationship
he and I have is different than

806
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,920
his mom because he's a mama's
boy.

807
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Not in a pussy way, but he's
just not, you know, like there's

808
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,480
some mama's, Yeah, there's some
mama's boys there's, yeah,

809
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,360
they're just straight up, you
know, hit every branch down the

810
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,560
stupid tree, right.
Yeah, I don't think.

811
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,280
I'm.
I talk about the sensitive stuff

812
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,640
with my mother.
For sure.

813
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,000
I'm getting better.
With that, I'm saying.

814
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,920
So he's got that I yeah, yeah.
And I don't have to worry about

815
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,320
either of those because both my
parental people are, you know,

816
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,240
bleep blep, blep, blep, blep,
blep, blep, blep, blep, blep,

817
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:02,760
blep, blep, blep fucking
useless.

818
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,000
And I'm happy about that.
Well, OK, yeah.

819
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,640
You know why one's still, you
know, I won't go down that path

820
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,760
anyway.
I know.

821
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:18,920
It's just you know, but so to
me, I I would have championed

822
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440
the what he was doing because
you know it's his body and

823
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,480
there's worse things you could
be doing to yourself and.

824
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,080
Yeah, he's not hurting anything.
We as a family dealt right,

825
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,520
Right.
We as a family dealt with a

826
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,400
couple different addiction
issues, you know, over over the

827
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,320
years and you know, he could be
a punk ass kid that not with his

828
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,360
head on straight and and not in
the military, not building his

829
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,280
future and inking himself.
He's a United States Marine at

830
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,960
711, right?
Right.

831
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,560
He's one of the like, you don't.
Here's the thing about the

832
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,960
Marines, in case you don't know.
I tried to they're.

833
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,080
The upper echelon of all I did
too.

834
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,840
They're the upper echelon of the
military.

835
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,880
So case in point, if he left the
Marines after his three-year

836
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,160
stint as a drill instructor,
which takes him to 10 years, I

837
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,320
believe, and decides that I
don't want to be a Marine, I

838
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
want to.
I want to go, you know, to the

839
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,840
Air Force.
He would just walk into the Air

840
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,200
Force and be assigned a rank and
go.

841
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,320
Same thing with the Army.
Same thing with the Navy.

842
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,160
They wouldn't make him do any
nonsense bullshit like a recruit

843
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,840
does because he's already proven
himself to the world making it

844
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,800
through the Marine boot camp.
I mean, the Crucible itself is a

845
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,520
crazy insane.
We'll let him talk about it.

846
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,280
The Crucible is just pure
insanity that you have to.

847
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,520
I mean, it's it's the best way
to explain it is you go into

848
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360
boot camp, the first thing the
drill instructor's job is to do

849
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,880
is to break you down
emotionally, mentally, just tear

850
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,880
you apart.
And then they got to build you

851
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,440
back up.
Which is why I think Jake's

852
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
going to be a fantastic drill
instructor because he has the

853
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,800
innate ability and I knew this
when I was coaching him in

854
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,360
sports, For him to exceed and
excel in whatever we were doing

855
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,080
sport wise, I'd have to piss him
off.

856
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,120
I'd have to push his buttons,
push those buttons, piss him

857
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,640
off.
He'd get lit up and then he

858
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,760
would go fucking perform like
nobody's business.

859
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,000
But then after the game, he
could flip that switch and go

860
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,440
back to normal everyday.
Jake and he understood there's a

861
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,680
coach and there's a dad.
It doesn't it didn't mix like I

862
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,840
wasn't.
I wasn't mixing those two.

863
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,880
He understood the difference.
And because of that he he could

864
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,840
flip that switch, man.
And he could just fucking kick

865
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,960
some ass because he he he could.
So when he graduated boot camp,

866
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,840
he he came, he had some types of
relationships with his drilling

867
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
structures and and you know,
then there's a human side of

868
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,760
stuff.
It's like we were hard on you

869
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,240
because we had to get you from
point A to point B.

870
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,240
So I think he's going to be
great in that aspect because

871
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,560
he'll shred these kids because
he has to, to prepare them for

872
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,840
whatever they're doing.
You know, infantry's no joke and

873
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,520
matter, right?
Like you're going out there,

874
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,240
you're you're a Marine first.
Like he's an accounting supply

875
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,520
and logistics because he was a
backup shipper and the MO s s

876
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,760
that were provided for him.
He couldn't do the other two

877
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,560
because he was, he's colored
efficient.

878
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:13,520
Like we picked him up at the
airport.

879
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,560
He told Nikki he was wearing a
maroon backpack.

880
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,680
I spy him at the the baggage
carousel and he was wearing a

881
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,160
green backpack.
In his mind it was maroon,

882
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,560
right?
So he couldn't be demolitions

883
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,040
because that that was one of his
options.

884
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,240
The other one was airline
mechanic, airplane mechanic.

885
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080
He cut the wrong wire.
You you just destroyed

886
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,040
something.
So he ended up being counting

887
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,720
supply and logistics because he
ended up going in in August when

888
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,200
he wasn't supposed to go until
November.

889
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,000
But that's how many kids that
couldn't couldn't.

890
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,040
What's the word they couldn't
they couldn't cut it.

891
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,320
So he.
Cut the muscle.

892
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,520
Brilliant on his part that,
right?

893
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,560
So he he just, you know, go get
her and he's he's, you know,

894
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,960
he's a badass.
You'll all see him next week and

895
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,200
he'll share his stories about
boot camp and we'll talk about

896
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,840
his tattoos.
But the tattoo that Mike's

897
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,480
referring to, it's his left leg.
It's traditional Japanese

898
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,600
artwork and it's a traditional
Japanese, Japanese way of doing

899
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,480
it.
Amazing.

900
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,760
So we'll right.
So we'll let him explain it and

901
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,320
then we'll drop pictures and
stuff of it and you can see it

902
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200
as it is.
Quite spectacular for sure.

903
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Yep, Yep, Yep.
Yeah.

904
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,400
So I'm interested in several
things.

905
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,960
Obviously, you know, you just
touched on two of them.

906
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,240
I'm also interested in his time
in Japan because I've heard, you

907
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:42,440
know, people that have gone to
Japan have always had an amazing

908
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,200
experience.
So I'd like to hear his

909
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,080
experience there.
And I know it was different than

910
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,120
a tourist, but I'm sure he got
to experience some culture and

911
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,080
stuff like that.
The only time I've ever been off

912
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,520
this continent is to go to
Catalina.

913
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,880
So I like to hear stories like
that.

914
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,280
And that's part of why I wanted
to do this podcast is to hear

915
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,120
interesting people.
And Jake has made himself an

916
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,720
interesting person at a very
young age, and I think that's

917
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,160
awesome.
So I'm honored to have him on

918
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,320
here and tell him, tell him
that, you know, it's not just

919
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,800
because he's your son, it's
because he made himself an

920
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,040
interesting person.
As to why I want him on the

921
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,560
podcast So.
Yeah.

922
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,800
Oh yeah.
It's my honor to have him here.

923
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,000
It's your honor to have him
here.

924
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,080
I think it's going to be
awesome.

925
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,480
He's our first guest.
Agreed it's.

926
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Very fitting, so very fitting.
We're going to do this thing.

927
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,080
We're yeah, we're going to do
this thing now every week

928
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,040
because my OCD requires us to
have some type of.

929
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,280
We have to have a thing.
Structure, even though we don't

930
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,120
have a, yeah, we don't have a
structure at all, but we have

931
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,760
this thing that's going to be so
before you.

932
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,720
So it's before you say that,
Tim.

933
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,040
OK, go ahead.
Go ahead.

934
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,320
OK, before you say that, anybody
that knows me knows that I'm

935
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,440
super OCD except for the
artistic side of me.

936
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,080
So the artistic side of me
drives Chris fucking crazy

937
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,320
because I'm just like, let's go
with the flow and see what

938
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,840
happens and how does this song
end?

939
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,720
I don't know.
We're just going to end it and

940
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,360
it ends differently every night.
And how does this song begin?

941
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,200
I don't know.
It kind of goes like this.

942
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,120
And yeah, I drive him crazy as
an artist, so I apologize for

943
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,720
that.
And that's what makes us tick.

944
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:25,080
And that's part of our that's
part of the thing that's

945
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,960
probably different about us in
life.

946
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,880
We're both OCD to no end.
Anybody that knows me knows

947
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,360
that, but as an artist, I am not
OCD.

948
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,080
So I I will let him finish his
statement here, 'cause it is

949
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,960
really good.
We're going to do a top ten list

950
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,920
is where he left off, yes, but
it's not top 10.

951
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,400
Right.
Well, kinda it, right?

952
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,560
It's not top ten.
It's not top ten list.

953
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,080
The reason why it's not top 10
is every musician knows it's

954
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,480
better to go up to 11.
Yes.

955
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
So it's the top. 11 that we're
going to do.

956
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,960
Right, right.
It's Hello, Cleveland.

957
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,680
But you're in Detroit.
And if you don't know what we're

958
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:11,000
referring to, it's the greatest.
It's the greatest mockumentary

959
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,120
of a rock band of every of, of
all time called This Is Spinal

960
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,880
Tap.
So do you have.

961
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,760
Do you have your yes?
Oh yeah, yeah, my and Nikki

962
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,040
hates it.
It's one of my all time

963
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,720
favourites now.
Do you have your list that I

964
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,640
sent you, Mike?
Yes.

965
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,240
OK, so it's it's up to you if
you want to start with #11 or if

966
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,720
you want me to.
And then we're just going to,

967
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:41,040
we're going to trade spots every
time and and just so you know,

968
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,600
boys and girls, this is what
we're going to do to wrap up

969
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,080
every episode.
So you have to listen to the

970
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:55,480
show to get to the top 11 list.
So are you going to post this on

971
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,640
the Facebook page to get other
people's top 11 list, or is this

972
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,640
just exclusive?
To us, Yeah, we can do that.

973
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,320
We can.
No.

974
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,320
OK.
We could do that.

975
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,760
I think that's a good.
We can do that.

976
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,400
We can do that, yeah.
Because I'd like to see other

977
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,280
people do that opinion on this.
They're going to be good topics.

978
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,760
And because this was Chris's
idea, unless I unless something

979
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,760
really jumps out at me, I will
let him control this portion of

980
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,880
the show because it makes him
feel better and that makes me

981
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,800
happy.
So I know he's going to come up

982
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,400
with good subjects because I've
known him for 30 some years and

983
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,960
he's just got one of those minds
that comes up with great topics.

984
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,720
So I'm interested in hearing our
listeners.

985
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Top 11, List 2 is my idea.
With that, go ahead with your

986
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,600
first one.
OK, so here's the.

987
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,320
Top 11.
List.

988
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,160
Yeah, yeah, right.
I can tell him what it is.

989
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,760
So these are the top 11 things
not to buy your significant

990
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,960
other, whatever, for Christmas.
It can be anybody.

991
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,360
It can be your brother, sister,
family member, wife, you know,

992
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,400
husband.
It doesn't matter.

993
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,880
But it's just the top 11 things
not to buy as Christmas presents

994
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:13,520
this year #11.
Anything with live love.

995
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:19,640
Laugh on it.
I think Mike froze.

996
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Did you freeze Mike?
Oh no.

997
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,920
He put his glasses.
On Grandpa needed her. #10

998
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,560
Michael.
You already did 11.

999
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Nope, I did 11.
Did you already you?

1000
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,800
Already did it again.
Yeah, yeah, I can do it again

1001
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,920
#11 Anything with live love.
Laugh on it.

1002
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:49,840
Do not give that as a gift.
OK, so my #11 was.

1003
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,600
No, you're #10.
Oh, I'm #10.

1004
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,280
No, we're doing, we're doing the
top 11 list, right?

1005
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,080
You're #10.
In reverse order I got it

1006
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,120
voodoo.
Dolls.

1007
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Right, right, right.
Yeah.

1008
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Voodoo dolls.
Yes, don't give your.

1009
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Voodoo Dogs OK for?
Surely a significant other

1010
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,840
voodoo doll.
I mean, come on, that's

1011
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,560
counterproductive.
OK, yeah, that's a good one.

1012
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,560
I like that #9 fruitcake.
Do not give anybody fruitcake as

1013
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:27,640
a gift.
An actual fruitcake or a person

1014
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,800
that's a fruitcake.
Either one is a bad.

1015
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Absolute thank you exactly.
Thank you and you're welcome #8.

1016
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,560
Now you're you're number, you're
#8.

1017
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,240
You're #8 cleaning supplies.
Yeah, that that's a bad idea,

1018
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,480
Cleaning supplies.
Brilliant.

1019
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,400
Brilliant.
Do not give your your gift of

1020
00:58:53,480 --> 00:59:00,240
giving cleaning supplies.
That would be bad #7A Chia Pet.

1021
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,360
Do you really think that
somebody is standing in the line

1022
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,880
at Walgreens thinking I would
like a Chia Pet for Christmas?

1023
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,400
The answer to that is no.
Thank you.

1024
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Thank you very much.
Number six.

1025
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:29,560
Number six statement mugs so
like World's Greatest Dad Best

1026
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:34,720
Wife #1.
Gotcha.

1027
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,160
I have a mug.
Up sex addict.

1028
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Yeah, I don't know.
You know, right.

1029
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,760
OK, yeah, I get it.
All the crazy, all the crazy

1030
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:47,320
little things.
Very good. #5 of the Top 11

1031
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:52,200
things not to give as presents
this holiday season Magazine

1032
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,280
Subscription to a magazine
they'll never read.

1033
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Case the point, if you got me a
magazine subscription to Popular

1034
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,280
Mechanics, I would not read it
because that is not my

1035
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,840
wheelhouse.
Nor is it mine, so please don't

1036
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,280
give me that.
There you go. #4 There you go.

1037
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,440
Definitely don't get for
significant other or anyone that

1038
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,120
you truly care about.
Self help books for Christmas

1039
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,760
maybe any other time of the
year, but they don't need to be

1040
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,320
reminded they have a problem at
Christmas time.

1041
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,200
Right.
That's fantastic.

1042
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,680
How to work?
On you.

1043
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,600
Good one.
I like that.

1044
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,840
Then, yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome.

1045
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,080
OK.
Uh huh, Uh huh.

1046
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,200
That's that's that's that was
number 4.

1047
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,760
You were #4 right.
That was, Yep, #4.

1048
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,920
You're on #3, brother.
Yeah, see, see, I I yeah, 'cause

1049
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,400
I forget sometimes #3 anything
that involves or revolves around

1050
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,680
Taylor Swift.
Unless you're 13 year old girl.

1051
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Are we tired of Taylor Swift
yet?

1052
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Or Taylor Swift might be tired
of Taylor Swift.

1053
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,720
I know Travis Kelsey's.
Not I think, yeah, yeah, I think

1054
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,880
they're going to, I think
they're going to they're going

1055
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,160
to burn out Taylor Swift.
They're going to over overexpose

1056
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,000
it, right.
You know, when you overdo it,

1057
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,120
it's just, you know, it's like
reel back in she's.

1058
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,280
Already made her billion.
Too much of a good thing.

1059
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,600
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, a hell of a musician for

1060
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,000
sure, you know.
And she wrote.

1061
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,520
Yeah, she's done.
She's made her mark for sure.

1062
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Nobody will ever take that away
from her.

1063
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,360
But you know, Taylor Swift in
the industry is not.

1064
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,120
Chris has had enough, ladies and
gentlemen.

1065
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,440
Number two.
Number two I have.

1066
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,000
I have.
Appliances Vacuum Cleaner,

1067
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Blender.
Oh yeah, Women don't need to be.

1068
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,640
Or men.
Or women and women.

1069
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,800
Or men and men.
I'm not here to judge.

1070
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,320
So your significant other does
not need to be reminded that

1071
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,360
they're a slob, I guess at
Christmas time, so.

1072
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,960
I I totally missed that one.
So, so true story, we have a

1073
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,520
friend that gave his wife a
power washer one year for

1074
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,000
Christmas.
OK, a power washer she.

1075
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,200
Claimed she was happy that she
got her power.

1076
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680
I don't know.
People are weird, man.

1077
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,720
You know?
There are your outlines.

1078
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,440
Some people are weird.
What?

1079
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,480
Did you mean?
This is for people are strange.

1080
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,520
People are strange.
People are strange when you're a

1081
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,360
stranger.
People look ugly when you're

1082
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,920
alone.
Yes, #1.

1083
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,520
And the number one thing to not
buy as a Christmas gift this

1084
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:52,240
holiday season is.
Your number.

1085
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,560
Is that you or me, Mike?
You're #1.

1086
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:06,760
Oh, I'm number one.
So the number one thing not, I

1087
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,280
don't walk around with my own
applause meter for the hell of

1088
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,880
it.
The number one thing not to get

1089
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,440
for Christmas this year.
Right you are.

1090
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,120
It's nice.
This is a good number one too.

1091
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,720
Number one thing not to get
somebody for Christmas this year

1092
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,640
is a custom bobble head with
them sitting on the toilet.

1093
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,720
It's it's it's out there, man.
You're going to if you're on

1094
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,640
social media, start talking
bobbles, start talking bobble

1095
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,560
head.
Because the the our media,

1096
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,920
smartphones, listen to us start
talking about bobble heads.

1097
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,160
And I I can pretty much
guarantee you within a day or

1098
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,880
two you're going to have an ad
pop up that wants you to take

1099
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,280
your ugly mug, create a bobble
head and sit on a toilet.

1100
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Mind you, your pants are down.
You're sitting on the toilet.

1101
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,120
True.
True.

1102
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,360
I might need this in my life.
Yes.

1103
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Yep, Yep, Yep.
Why not, Really.

1104
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,720
It's not a good thing.
Not a good thing.

1105
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,600
My number one actually wasn't
that good.

1106
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,480
Well, get your significant
other.

1107
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,600
My number one you probably just
shouldn't press, shouldn't open

1108
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,440
my number one in front of your
entire family.

1109
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Oh, gotcha.
Oh, yeah.

1110
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,200
That probably wouldn't be a good
idea.

1111
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,360
All right, so there you go.
This is The Chris and Mike Show

1112
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:33,360
season one episode 8. #8 we are
in #8, even I keep even.

1113
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,200
I quit keeping track because
eventually we're going to be on,

1114
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:41,120
like, 475, and I just don't know
if I want to be the guy that's

1115
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,480
going.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to

1116
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,560
episode 475 of The Chris and
Mike Show.

1117
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,000
You know, it's just.
Well.

1118
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,360
I hope we get to well, that's
kind of what I do.

1119
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,160
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.

1120
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,880
I'm turning in.
I got.

1121
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,840
To 106 episodes.
With, with, with.

1122
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine, man.
We'll get there.

1123
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,480
The baby steps, man.
You got to start somewhere, you

1124
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,360
know.
No, I'm just what I'm saying is.

1125
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,240
These people seem to enjoy it,
you know?

1126
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,600
Yeah.
I love it, man.

1127
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,680
I'm I.
Actually, we went up with a good

1128
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,520
no.
I actually just told a good

1129
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,480
friend of mine today that I look
forward to Tuesday.

1130
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,760
Like I've never looked forward
to Tuesday in my life.

1131
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,520
So yeah, I would say I enjoy it
a lot.

1132
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,480
It's a blast, man.
It's everything I hope for and

1133
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,800
it's just keeps getting better.
So yeah, it's awesome.

1134
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,400
Yeah, you'll get better and
better.

1135
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,920
I'll get better and better.
We'll get better and better.

1136
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,280
It'll be awesome, man.
That's what we do.

1137
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,000
So here's my point.
Rock'n'roll coop, man.

1138
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,480
Do we want to keep saying in
every episode that this is

1139
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,320
episode 8, this is episode 9?
They're going to know what

1140
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,680
episode they're on, right?
Do we need to say it?

1141
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,800
Yeah, well, because when you
drop it, it's going to show it.

1142
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,240
But it's like an Easter egg, you
know, somewhere during the

1143
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,080
episode I'll drop, I'll drop
what season and what episode it

1144
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,000
is just for the hell of it.
Because you know, OK, why not?

1145
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,800
I'm fine with that.
If that no animal, yeah, I mean

1146
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,520
no animal.
It's just one of those things,

1147
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,080
you know, It's kind of like no
animals will harm during the

1148
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,280
making of this episode because
we don't have any animals around

1149
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,480
us, you.
Know I don't have any animals.

1150
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,240
Period.
I did get an I did get a

1151
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,560
personal air horn.
You know, like this big because

1152
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,560
of the the the random, the
random cats that that patrol my

1153
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,040
house and one of my neighbors
told me we'll just scare them

1154
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,640
Like, OK, so every night I go
out about 9:00 in the dark

1155
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,080
because I'm in a neighborhood
where that's it's a it's it's

1156
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,920
supposed to be dark.
There's no St. lights and I'll

1157
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,360
just stand out my door with my
hair and go and then I go back

1158
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,520
in the house and then I watch
neighbors security lights pop on

1159
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,760
motion detectors as cats are
going.

1160
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,480
And the main reason why is
because they mess with little

1161
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,920
man's play area.
They'll like, they'll they'll

1162
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
poop where he plays and it's
like that's not cool.

1163
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,120
So we've tried everything.
You mean like everything.

1164
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Everything you.
Yeah, every.

1165
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,960
And I'm not.
I'm not, no.

1166
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,040
And I'm not slamming cat owners.
There's hey, you know, to each

1167
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,120
his own.
And we've tried everything

1168
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,960
humanely possible from orange
rind and and different kinds of

1169
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,920
plants that have, you know, like
citrus, citronella plants and

1170
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,480
and Rosemary, all the things
that are supposed to detract

1171
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,640
cats.
The problem is though we have an

1172
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,360
acre, it's 211 feet on every
single side and that's a lot of

1173
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,080
fucking citronella to plant,
man.

1174
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,240
So you know we tried urine,
coyote urine, and and just these

1175
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,440
little automated sprinkler
systems where you walk by just

1176
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,120
clips you.
Well, the cats are smart man.

1177
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:44,040
They would walk behind the
motion detector and avoid the

1178
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,000
sprinkler.
I'm like you brilliant little

1179
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,920
bastards.
So I've resorted to an air horn

1180
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,320
that literally it's this big.
I got 220 bucks on Amazon.

1181
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,520
No Amazon.
Amazon would be a great, would

1182
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,480
be a great sponsor.
Yes, we welcome Amazon as a

1183
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,640
sponsor.
I think, yeah, I, I, I ought to

1184
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,880
find what to find.
Start pimping out some Amazon

1185
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,280
shit, and then we'll just have
to start writing them letters.

1186
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,640
Kind of like how we got Arizona.
Are we going to send it by

1187
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,240
carrier pigeon?
Arizona, We just kept poking at

1188
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,240
him every episode and he started
watching it.

1189
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,479
And then he freaking reached out
and said that I'll be on your

1190
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,479
show.
There you go.

1191
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,960
So, you know, it's that easy.
You just got to, you just got to

1192
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,720
poke the bull, poke the bear
enough and shit happens.

1193
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,600
Poke on.
I got to make some phone calls.

1194
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:35,960
Poke on.
I got to make some phone call.

1195
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,680
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm Chris Dunham.

1196
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,200
He's Mike Michaels.
We're the Chris and Mike Show.

1197
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,720
Thank you so much for listening
to us.

1198
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,439
You got about it before
Christmas.

1199
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,200
So I think our neck everybody
pay.

1200
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,080
Attention to Chris.
Go ahead, pay attention to what?

1201
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,080
Pay attention to Chris, it's
sure.

1202
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,000
Oh yeah, be kind.
It's that kind.

1203
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,080
Should be kind all the time but
right now.

1204
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

1205
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,319
People are stressed, man.
Remember, you're not alone.

1206
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,840
Yeah, remember, you're not alone
if you're if you're dealing with

1207
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,800
some internal chaos, you know,
reach out to people you know.

1208
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,479
Social media is good for that
too.

1209
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,960
Just, you know, hey, just reach
out.

1210
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,200
Don't, don't, don't, don't
battle your internal demons

1211
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,560
alone.
It's, it's it's, you know,

1212
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,560
tomorrow is always a better day.
So never think today is the day

1213
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:28,960
that is is is is bad enough to
make it go away.

1214
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,120
Don't do that.
Reach out to family, friends.

1215
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,560
You'd be surprised.
I have had random people reach

1216
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,920
out to me about alcoholism and
stuff, and I really appreciate

1217
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,439
that because at least they're
talking to somebody.

1218
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,520
So don't be ashamed.
Don't be afraid to talk to

1219
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,840
somebody if you're feeling down
depressed because too many

1220
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,960
people get lost in the shuffle
and you know they don't realize

1221
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,040
how much they're loved when
they're gone because they're

1222
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,840
gone.
So don't be that person.

1223
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:52,880
That's all.
We're both here.

1224
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,960
If if you feel comfortable
talking to us, that's awesome.

1225
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,280
We've been there, done that.
So we're not going to judge you.

1226
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,160
Yep, Yep, no.
Not even if you.

1227
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,080
Even if you have 15 cats in your
house and you know, whatever.

1228
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,680
We won't see each other before
Christmas, so Merry Christmas,

1229
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,080
brother.
So Merry Christmas, Merry

1230
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Christmas.
Oh, that was good.

1231
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,000
Then we did the top 11 things
not to get your, your, your

1232
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,400
people for Christmas.
Because that.

1233
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:20,920
That's.
Which will be released on

1234
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,200
Christmas.
We'll see you after.

1235
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,200
Brilliant.
There you go.

1236
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,080
We did that on purpose.
Couldn't.

1237
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,440
Have planned it any better if I
tried?

1238
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,440
No, we didn't.
Couldn't have planned it any

1239
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:34,280
better if I tried.
So with that, you're going to

1240
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,920
have some parting music as we as
we graciously walk away and the

1241
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:47,160
crowd goes wild.
Merry Christmas to everybody and

1242
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,720
be kind to each other and we
will see you next week.

1243
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,200
Peace.
See you.

1244
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:58,160
Bye Mike later.
My friend, Merry Christmas to

1245
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:58,560
you, brother.