#207 - Domenick Nati - Celebrity Interviewer/Influencer

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Mike (1:16): And we want to first give a major shout out to all those people that have found us recently on the YouTubes and the socials. We've had some record days going on. I think YouTube were what? Almost 415,000 views, if not more now.

Chris (1:29): No, check this out, dude. Okay. So I just texted a friend of mine this statistic. Okay. I keep joking that we're coming for BTS because she's a huge BTS fan, right?

Chris (1:38): And they have more downloads and streams than any person on the planet ever right now for any reason, right? They win. Okay. So it's just my running joke.

Unknown Speaker (1:46): I'll BTS is the band? Yes. That band? Okay.

Unknown Speaker (1:49): They're phenomenal.

Unknown Speaker (1:50): Oh, we're coming for BTS. I like that. Okay. I got it. I gotcha.

Unknown Speaker (1:53): She laughs every time I say it.

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Chris (1:56): So yeah. Anyway, I texted her that, showed her the screenshot of 5,100 subscribers. So all you people who are consuming the content on YouTube right now, thank you so much. Yes. Outstanding.

Chris (2:07): We love you. We're glad you're here. Consume away. Yep. That's awesome.

Chris (2:11): Absolutely. But the more important statistic due to since Sunday, we have racked up over 70,000 views. That's how I know these people like what they're seeing. So again, thank you very much from the bottom of our hearts. Is so very excited.

Chris (2:27): Chris is excited. Definitely. It's it's just it's cool when you start something like that and you see the fruits of your labor take even just a little bit of an inch forward, you know? Yeah. I know people have hundreds of millions of views and I get it, but we're a farm system right now, you know?

Mike (2:44): This is the minor yeah. Leagues. Yeah. And as a reminder, we're doing this stuff organically. We're not out there paying for leads and viewers or not.

Mike (2:52): We don't, we get spam. Mike sees

Unknown Speaker (2:53): Yeah. The didn't get you spend $5,000 on viewers.

Mike (2:57): No. We get stuff all the time from Mike sees the emails because I respond to them like, Hey, you know, we can improve your presence. And I was like, Well, we already, you found us. So obviously other people can't. Like, we're not

Unknown Speaker (3:08): gonna That's forever. Pay You found us.

Unknown Speaker (3:10): We're not gonna pay Habib from a country overseas where they get, you know, the curry and the food and the cookies.

Unknown Speaker (3:17): He has no way being facetious or racist Not at all. They're all from India. They are. I'm I'm gonna stack them up.

Mike (3:27): So Every single one of them. And like we can make you more popular. Well, no. We're doing it on our own. Doing it the way we wanna do it organically.

Mike (3:34): That was one of our goals.

Chris (3:35): Yeah. To plant the seed and watch it grow just like the band.

Mike (3:39): Right. Right. If you see, if you see somebody with like, say, 2,000,000 followers and they have say, you know

Unknown Speaker (3:46): 10 views?

Mike (3:47): Yeah. Or even like, like, even if it's not even 10% of what their followers are, you know, if it's 15,000 views or some where at where at what? We're at 415,000 views and how and over 470,005 viewers or subscriptions? Over 5,100. Yes.

Mike (4:06): Right. So that jives mathematically that jives you. Then Mike pointed out the other day that actually people are going the new ones. Thank you. Almost in a 100 countries as well.

Mike (4:15): They're going in.

Unknown Speaker (4:15): I'm glad you're bringing this up.

Mike (4:16): And they're starting it at episode one, which is fun because Mike Mike is a Joe Rogan fan. Here's what? I'm gonna

Unknown Speaker (4:24): let you finish this story. Yeah. But let me interject here real quick. Yeah. Go ahead.

Chris (4:29): I just want to give a public service announcement. Yeah. Thank you for everyone that went and started episode one. What Chris story is gonna tell you.

Unknown Speaker (4:36): Went and

Chris (4:36): started at one on Rogan. I'm Yep. Three years in almost, and I'm only halfway through. But the cool thing about that is you gotta give it time.

Unknown Speaker (4:50): I froze.

Unknown Speaker (4:51): Did I lose Chris now? Jeez. See? I lost my train of thought. Technical difficulties all around today, ladies and gentlemen.

Unknown Speaker (4:58): Oh, you're back. Okay. I'm back. I froze for a second there. Was like, oh, boy.

Unknown Speaker (5:01): Really? Gonna be

Chris (5:02): one of those days, man. What I wanted to say real quick is yes. Technical difficulties. But what I wanted to say was give it time because the first 25 episodes have a two second delay. I was on DSL.

Unknown Speaker (5:16): Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Chris (5:18): Remember, I was the problem back then. Right. You would start talking and then I would talk over you because you didn't hear it for two seconds. So

Unknown Speaker (5:25): Yeah.

Chris (5:26): Please forgive us for the first 25 episodes or so. It might be even a few more than that, but I think it improves because obviously the later content people seem to be picking up on.

Mike (5:38): Yeah. And that's that's the fun thing. So just be patient because we do get better. And the funny what funny is now is and now I'm on I have Starlink and I have Eero Cable. Which is right.

Mike (5:53): Eero. And I legit, I legit have more problems now than my cavity was just on DSL. We should go figure that out.

Chris (6:04): And the crazy thing to me still to this and I've said it before is that you live in a city of 3,000,000 people. Right. You'd think they'd have that down to a science even though you are rural kind of like I am in your setting, you're in a

Mike (6:17): rural area. Kind of, sort of, but like right across the street from me is, is, is, I mean, my backyard weather app sometime is Gilbert. So it's like, am I am I really? Am I? Okay.

Mike (6:28): I'm trying to give you the give that the truth about on your behalf. Yeah. No. And I and I appreciate that for sure, man. It's just it's crazy to me that that I have those little issues now that that you were having and I shouldn't have, you know?

Unknown Speaker (6:42): At least we don't have the delay. Right? Right. Right. We can talk in real time, which is crazy.

Chris (6:47): 2,000 miles apart for anybody that doesn't know that. And we're waiting on a guest to get his technical difficulties down, so that's what we're doing at the moment. We're kinda filling time, but we had planned on thanking the YouTube community for sure because you guys outnumber all the other platforms about a 100 to one. It might be more than that. So kudos to Chris for creating a kick ass YouTube channel, being diligent about uploading the content.

Chris (7:15): There's always killer content on there. I just told another friend of mine the other day, I use the YouTube channel all the time myself, so I upload to all the other places, but when I want to see something, see the quality, hear what it sounds like, I always go to YouTube because his stuff is laid out so nicely. Kudos to you, brother. It's easy to And,

Mike (7:35): yeah, and for those of you that are just joining us, you know, for the first time as a follower, new follower, we do have content dropping three times a day, six a. M, twelve noon, and six p. M, except show days, which are Wednesdays and Sundays. So those days, we have four things dropping and the show drops at ten a. M, Wednesdays and Sundays, and you still have the 6AM, twelve noon, and 6PM content.

Mike (7:55): Those content, those little clips too, they they vary. So you have nice little quick reels, you know, anywhere from fifteen to fifty five seconds. You have what I've dubbed inside the segment. So when we post production this stuff on Riverside, we actually get clips that are, you know, anywhere from two minutes to four minutes long. Those to me are inside the segment because then it captures a portion of the show that may be sixty minutes, ninety minutes, two hours, whatever the case may be.

Unknown Speaker (8:20): It gives you an idea of what's going on in that episode for sure. I've watched them myself. Just to remember what happened, you know?

Mike (8:26): Yeah. And then you're not you don't have if you don't have the time to sit and listen and want to watch whatever you're streaming on an entire episode, you can get this little snippet. And from that, then you can kind of decide, okay, that's a good episode to listen to. You know, we've had all kinds of guests on this thing that it's just we started out basically just music and recovery.

Unknown Speaker (8:45): And it was just me and you for quite some time other than Jake. Yeah. Shout out to Jake. Guest number one.

Mike (8:51): Guest number one, my son, the Marine. So, yeah, we we've grown quite nicely. We had a really, really well known actor on Billy McNamara.

Chris (9:01): He just called me last night as well.

Unknown Speaker (9:04): We're we're Billy's best friends now. What's up, Billy? That was cool. Which is cool. Look.

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Mike (9:18): this is Dominic Natty. Be careful with your with your scrub. We don't wanna do that. We don't wanna do that. We don't wanna do that.

Mike (9:25): Dominic, you're sideways. Nope. Nope. Nope. Other way.

Mike (9:29): You wanna you wanna stay? I'm gonna send you. Oh, nope. That's sideways, buddy. You're still sideways.

Unknown Speaker (9:35): You're still sideways.

Unknown Speaker (9:36): Hey, how do I turn it?

Unknown Speaker (9:37): Right there. There you go.

Unknown Speaker (9:38): Stop it right there. Right there is how you want it.

Unknown Speaker (9:41): Just like this? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I'm sideways.

Unknown Speaker (9:43): Can I light it? Can I smoke?

Unknown Speaker (9:45): Is your phone vertical? If you look at it, is it, is it top to bottom?

Unknown Speaker (9:49): No, right now it's

Unknown Speaker (9:51): not this way.

Unknown Speaker (9:52): No, it's

Unknown Speaker (9:54): it's this way.

Unknown Speaker (9:55): Yeah. It's right

Unknown Speaker (9:56): now. It's up with that. Mikey.

Unknown Speaker (9:58): You better hear. I'll come back in. I'll come back in.

Mike (10:00): Okay. Okay. Come back in. I'm wondering difficulty show.

Chris (10:04): I'm wondering if it uses the camera the other way and it shouldn't though. Portrait mode

Unknown Speaker (10:10): is the way you had

Unknown Speaker (10:11): it up. We all know what portrait mode is. Don't be dumb, Mike.

Unknown Speaker (10:15): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (10:17): Oh, wait. It says he's in portrait. Yeah. Stay like that.

Mike (10:21): Stay like that, Matt. I mean,

Unknown Speaker (10:22): We did it. I think we did it.

Unknown Speaker (10:24): We did it. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (10:25): Hopefully. We're here ladies and gentlemen. We are here with Dominic with a bad ass cigar. What is that?

Unknown Speaker (10:32): Hey, this is a, a, a, a Lebo master blend. I got the I got the big one to make up. Yeah. Overcompensating. Overcompensating.

Unknown Speaker (10:40): Okay. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (10:42): I know I know about one tenth of 1% about cigars. It just looks like a nice one. So I had to

Unknown Speaker (10:48): call it. It is. It's a good one. It's Friday. It's the weekend.

Unknown Speaker (10:50): So, so see, when I first got into real estate, I was like, Hey, every time I close a house, I'm gonna have a cigar. Right. And I never smoked cigars in my life. So the first six months I smoked one. I'm like, okay, well, this is cool.

Unknown Speaker (10:59): And then the next six months I had 13 clothes and I'm like, I can't do this. Oh, you can't do this. You can't. And then and then I hit my groove and I was, you know, until COVID hit, I was doing 45 to 50 deals a year. I'm like, there's no way I can smoke that many cigars.

Mike (11:11): I'm glad I never did. Because I'm glad you never did too. I wouldn't be the the the fitness nut that I am today if I was not, I have no offense Dominic. If I was smoking 50 cigars a year, you know, especially with asthma and things that just wouldn't have worked.

Unknown Speaker (11:25): So we're,

Mike (11:25): so instead of an elevator ride, you're going to walk from your parking lot to your building. Give us a give us the reason why you wanted to come on this this wonderfully worldwide broadcasting podcast, the top three podcasts in Arizona, by way, and Dominic is So in give us a little bit of a oh, and look. He's a 100. That's styling, dude. You're you're kicking both our asses now.

Mike (11:49): So give us a little insight as to who you are, what you're all about, and why you wanted to come on the Christian Mike show.

Dominic Natti (11:54): Christian Mike. Yeah. So I am a celebrity interviewer. I have a show myself called the Dominic Natti show. I've interviewed people like Wolfie Goldberg, Gene Simmons, Howie Mandela, Bill Cosby, about 400 celebrities, a lot of reality TV people.

Dominic Natti (12:10): That's awesome. Nice. Yeah. It's it's been fun. Yeah.

Dominic Natti (12:13): And I just came back from the Phoenix Convention Center with the, you know, I've been doing the big fan fest there with John Cena. And so that's why I was a little bit late. But but I do I do celebrity entertainment, you know, more more like I buy high profile stuff, and I work in television and movies, and I am a publicist by day. Wow. So, yeah, I have a PR firm.

Dominic Natti (12:37): Mostly work with, like, people that are anyone looking for exposure. I I I've done a lot with celebrities, like, my background, but these days, I'm an old man now. I used to work in TV and movies. So I'm I'm working more with, like, you know, just anybody that's looking for exposure to get into magazines, blogs, know, stuff like that.

Unknown Speaker (12:56): Quick question, Dominic. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (12:57): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (12:59): How does one get into interviewing celebrities of all things? Because you can't that's not really you know, I wanna interview Gene Simmons too. Chris would like to as well. How do you get into this?

Dominic Natti (13:11): Well, I mean, mine was a little bit of reverse. I I was I was always a behind the scenes guy. I worked in in film and television and in production. I would always tell people that I was I was average. I was an okay cameraman.

Dominic Natti (13:24): I was okay, producer and director. And then when I got into PR, I seemed to be better than most as a promoter. I was doing celebrity PR, and then I was pitching to a a radio station in Chicago, and they said, well, why don't you just have your show on my why don't you just interview these people that you're with? And I was like, oh, I I don't interview. I'm not a radio guy.

Dominic Natti (13:47): You know? And and I started doing that. And I think just from pitching so much and so many years, it was easy for me to think of questions, and I had the contacts. So I wish there was a way to say, oh, anybody could do it. Like, in my situation, was because I I already knew them.

Dominic Natti (14:02): I I knew people. I had the contacts. And and so it is difficult to kind of get started, but you know, once you get one, it's easier to say, oh, well, come on here and promote real Yeah.

Mike (14:15): That's cool. Right on. Yeah. See, we had a stupid little goof one day. We had a guest that was supposed to show up and show up.

Mike (14:23): We were having our random conversations and I was talking, basically telling our audience then, which was probably 20 people in 10 countries. If you want to come on the show, you just can't be a zombie because that wouldn't be a good guest. It was a total goof spoof. Yeah. And it went on for about, I don't know, a minute or so.

Mike (14:41): And I I posted that on YouTube. He posted it on Instagram and all of a sudden people started knocking on our door. It was the craziest thing.

Dominic Natti (14:48): That is yeah. And that's that's how it works. Like, I I I know how you feel. It's like you you plan all this stuff and the more sometimes the more you think you have a great idea. That was my problem.

Unknown Speaker (14:58): I was, like, offered an interview show. It was supposed to be twenty minutes. And I said, no. I want a full hour. I'm very funny.

Unknown Speaker (15:04): I got all these ideas for skits, and no one I did all these skits and, you know, all these there's different comedy bits, and everyone hated it. So everyone was like, yeah. We just wanna Really? Just wait for yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (15:15): Nobody like so they were just wanted to get yeah. Because, like, the interviews with Solaire, like, we don't wanna hear from you. We just wanna hear from who you're talking to. So I had to kinda get used to that and then realize, like, the things that you think you were gonna work, lot of times don't. And then,

Unknown Speaker (15:30): like Yeah.

Dominic Natti (15:31): Something that you throw together, You know? That's why I think that, you know, quantity is better than quality sometimes. It's just keep trying new stuff. You never know what people are gonna want. You know?

Mike (15:43): Yeah. See, when I was on the radio, I was the opposite. They wanted me to do interviews and I didn't like the interviews because they're one-sided answers. It's like, Hey, Dominic, are you in Phoenix today? Yes, I am.

Mike (15:52): I understand you interview celebrities. Yes, I do. I'm like, no, that doesn't work for me because then it's, then I'm just constantly pulling teeth. So I started swaying more toward conversational and they would be giving me crap. And I'm like, look, it's a better show when I'm just talking with someone and we're just engaging because I can, I can pull out everything I want to pull out from a conversation than I can in an interview?

Mike (16:13): And then to me, it's, it's, it was more engaging. It's more interesting. People like it. They're more involved. They're engaged in fun.

Unknown Speaker (16:19): It's more fun.

Unknown Speaker (16:20): Like, yes. Because if we Nobody wants to sit and listen to one person talk and two people or one person, like Chris said, go, yes. Yes. No. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (16:30): Oh, It was real fun.

Mike (16:32): Right. Right. And see, I completely forgot about because about what you do, which is why we do it this way because then the reactions you get from us are real. I totally blitzed the fact that you just, you have, and it's a massive amount of interviews of people that you've talked to, to 400. Yeah.

Mike (16:51): And all just on all walks of life. That's so who was who was the who was the one that you were like, holy shit. I'm talking to this guy right now.

Unknown Speaker (16:59): You know what? Honestly, and I it it it was 2013, but it was Bill Cosby. I mean, while I was while I was doing Oh. With with hold up. You wanna come on the show?

Unknown Speaker (17:10): She's bringing me a walk. Oh, thank god.

Unknown Speaker (17:12): Yeah. Him come on the show. Come on the show.

Unknown Speaker (17:14): She's scanders.

Unknown Speaker (17:14): Come on the

Unknown Speaker (17:15): show. This is a fun Friday show.

Unknown Speaker (17:17): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:19): She wants no. No. She looks beautiful. She's a

Unknown Speaker (17:21): beautiful Broadway Get over here and say hi. You're talking to a 100 countries.

Unknown Speaker (17:26): It's Chris and Mike's own here in Cape Fear. Yeah. She's probably a water because I'm dying. You got a up here. And you got a lunch seat.

Unknown Speaker (17:35): That's right. I'm all dressed up. Thank

Unknown Speaker (17:39): you for saving our guests.

Unknown Speaker (17:41): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:44): You. Thank you. You know, it is, it is, it

Unknown Speaker (17:47): is Arizona. I know, Steve. And I am dead. I'm from Buffalo, New York, man. I'm trying to survive.

Unknown Speaker (17:54): Yeah. So I

Unknown Speaker (17:56): You are a long sleeve shirt now, I'm making peeks.

Unknown Speaker (17:59): I mean, come on, man. I got Anthony Ramirez today. It would be a black T shirt because I'm fat. So it's like, can't wear light color. My folks cast shadows.

Unknown Speaker (18:08): We're like one Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (18:10): Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker (18:11): not a

Mike (18:11): whole We're like 100, 102, but where he's at, he's all concrete, he's probably 105 or six. I'm at, a 100 because I'm in Queen Creek. I'm in the Far East Valley. I'm east of you, Dominic. I'm probably a 100 degrees right now, but I don't, I don't have concrete.

Mike (18:25): I'm, I'm one to five acre land parcel.

Unknown Speaker (18:27): Dominic's cooking ladies and gentlemen. He's literally cooking.

Unknown Speaker (18:30): Do it all for Chris and Mike. This is my big job. So, to be on the Chris and Mike's. We love

Unknown Speaker (18:34): it brother.

Unknown Speaker (18:35): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (18:37): We're gonna make Dominic famous today.

Unknown Speaker (18:39): I'm just gonna pay you. Take me to the next level. Next level, man. Yeah. Amazing answer to your question.

Unknown Speaker (18:50): Real cut.

Unknown Speaker (18:50): Yeah, yeah, it was yeah. Back so back to crying. Yeah. So was that before or after his his nonsense before I don't remember

Unknown Speaker (18:58): Before. So I grew up here.

Unknown Speaker (18:59): That was before. For sure.

Unknown Speaker (19:00): I'm 47. I grew up watching the Cosby Show. It was 2013. Was

Unknown Speaker (19:04): coming to

Unknown Speaker (19:05): us too.

Unknown Speaker (19:06): Okay. So it was like, I mean, it's like just sitting there on the phone and then on the other end just realize that he's just he's so built. It'd be exactly himself. Like, you'd ask a question, and there's gonna be a pause for, like, five, six seconds. I'm like and then he's like, I remember nine two.

Unknown Speaker (19:26): Like, It my god. This is awesome. It's like, bro. Answer I mean, it was so long. It was so costly.

Unknown Speaker (19:35): And I I did you know, it's still, like, probably my favorite interview. You know luckily I didn't have to you know spend the night with them but I mean for an interview over the phone

Unknown Speaker (19:45): I thought it was great

Unknown Speaker (19:47): you weren't as tight brother you weren't

Unknown Speaker (19:49): as tight I guess so yeah how come no one touched pizza? Don't you want to touch pizza?

Unknown Speaker (19:59): That's awesome. No, we, I grew up watching. Yeah. Fat Albert Cosby show. What would he have?

Mike (20:04): Had a show before the Cosby show. I forget what it was, I remember Fat Albert was a

Unknown Speaker (20:08): good show in the six months. Oh, yeah. I

Unknown Speaker (20:10): spy. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Mike (20:13): That's right. Yeah. And his big comedy his big comedy special himself, which is brilliant. The only two cuss words were Jesus Christ and God damn it. Yep.

Mike (20:23): And that by far was one of the funniest bits I've ever heard in my life.

Unknown Speaker (20:26): The trip to the dentist was right up there on that one. Yep. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (20:29): Yeah. And that was, that was ironic. During my interview with him, he said, the word, this is not FM, right? We can swear on here.

Unknown Speaker (20:37): No. No. Dude, do it every one, man. Rip it off like a Band Aid.

Dominic Natti (20:40): I said shit on our on our interview. And then at the end, he was like, can you do me a favor? It was still reporting. He's like, take out that nasty word I said, you know? That was like, you know what?

Unknown Speaker (20:50): I'm gonna chew it. Know, I was like, I'm gonna cut it out. I don't want people to just cause me a great guy and this, you know, and then apparently he did a few things worse. We'll face shit on my snow. So just a couple of minutes.

Unknown Speaker (21:05): Yeah, so

Unknown Speaker (21:06): right on.

Unknown Speaker (21:07): But he was he was working. That's awesome dude. Yeah, didn't even hear him saying it. It's like I sent a bad words there. You edit that out.

Unknown Speaker (21:13): I was like, yeah, you won't want to ruin your reputation. So, but my least favorite You guys are not

Unknown Speaker (21:19): gonna like

Unknown Speaker (21:21): guys are rock people, rock fans, right? These rock fans, rock musicians?

Unknown Speaker (21:25): Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Dominic Natti (21:26): So Gene Simmons is my least favorite interview. Well, guys would like

Unknown Speaker (21:31): I don't doubt, but I don't I don't I don't that was

Unknown Speaker (21:34): a bad example that I used because I'm not sure I care to interview Gene Simmons. He's just

Mike (21:38): a see, had I had a show Dominic called Good News Arizona that I launched a couple of weeks after COVID hit with, with another partner of mine. And we would do after a while, I would write the whole thing kind like you talked about earlier with your show, you'd write everything and I didn't do necessarily skits, but I had different things that would run for the show. And there's only good news. There's only good positive news. There's nothing negative about it because the world was so negative.

Mike (22:02): So about three months into it, because we ended up doing 106 episodes about three months into it, had the idea of having live on location spots. So say you're, you're at the Phoenix Convention Center, you're standing next to John Cena and I knew you at the time, would say, Hey, Dominic, just film a video of yourself with John Cena. Hey, it's Dominic and Hattie live on location with John Cena. Back to you, Chris and Dean. That was it.

Mike (22:23): I mean, it was just a funny little spoof that went in the middle of the show. We had Gene Simmons do it. And it was during COVID and he had the mask on and everything. And he actually gave a shit on the show for not being there with his thing. And it's like, well, dude, I wasn't coming there to begin with.

Mike (22:37): You were just going to do a spot for us through a mutual friend we had at the time that was there. So that was kind of cool. But I've, I've, I've kind of with Mike and with you, I don't, I don't think he'd be a very

Unknown Speaker (22:50): He wouldn't be my first person I'm looking to interview for sure.

Unknown Speaker (22:54): And he has a lot of fans.

Unknown Speaker (22:56): He's trying to But

Unknown Speaker (22:56): it's like, if he doesn't feel like you're a fan, I've never met someone like I've met hundreds of celebrities. Most of them are like, I would get one of my friends who used to play for Aerosmith, the less I cared about Aerosmith, the more he was like, dude, let's hang out, you know, and like, but Gene was like, What?

Unknown Speaker (23:11): That's what I would think.

Unknown Speaker (23:12): Yeah, like he and I'm not a rock fan and I'm not a Chris fan and it's like, he just got offended. He's like, about this music I'm putting out? And I'm like, bro, who I don't know. Like, I mean Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (23:23): So so then we went back and forth, and I'd ask him a question. He would just go, boring. I was like, okay. You know? So so then I started

Unknown Speaker (23:30): talking with you.

Unknown Speaker (23:31): Was like, I started asking him about Justin Bieber's music at the time and just to fuck with him. So,

Unknown Speaker (23:36): you know, he was, he was pretty over Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (23:39): So that's my least favorite, but if you're a fan of jeans, people like it, you know? Yeah.

Mike (23:44): So I've never been a fan of kiss. I, I like my first key knows. Yeah. My, yeah, my only album I ever liked was destroyer. My brother introduced you to him.

Unknown Speaker (23:52): I've never been a big fan. I thought, I think they're overrated. Mike and I have talked about this. I, I, you know, they're, they're the greatest hype machine ever.

Unknown Speaker (23:59): They're the greatest They marketing machine

Mike (24:02): did make that happen. And that's what I'm saying back in the day. Yeah. For what they did from a marketing standpoint was was phenomenal because there was nothing like we have now in the seventies and and people that have been born in the February don't understand that. KISS was worldwide without any help.

Mike (24:18): Yeah.

Chris (24:18): And they they didn't go up there with backing tracks either. They earned that reputation. They were a kick ass live band for sure.

Unknown Speaker (24:25): They were. Sure. But I just I never really liked it. I mean, I never I thought the gimmick was gimmicky and I did the music was kind of cheesy to me and just it wasn't, you know, aside from two or three songs and their entire crowd, okay, this is a cool song. You know, Detroit Rock City is a cool song.

Unknown Speaker (24:38): I need to introduce you to the deeper cuts. Think you might change your mind. Maybe. Wrote God Thunder's

Unknown Speaker (24:44): a good song, you know? Watching that's about it. Yeah. You know? Parasite.

Mike (24:50): But I just, you know, never been a huge fan. So what else you got? What do got for him, Mikey?

Unknown Speaker (24:59): Mikey, you do it.

Chris (25:00): No. I'm let's go down the inter the celebrity.

Unknown Speaker (25:02): Okay. Let's go down the path. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (25:04): Oh, well, whoopies over and come back. I'm telling you guys, as of now,

Unknown Speaker (25:08): I am I'm I'm a little bit I

Chris (25:10): wanna know some good positive interviews.

Unknown Speaker (25:12): Oh, positive. Positive interviews. Okay. Well, I'll tell you the last one that I did that was, I thought it was good news. So I interviewed Howie Mandela, you know, that is, the comedian from, yeah,

Unknown Speaker (25:23): so was just, he's a cool guy.

Dominic Natti (25:25): He was fun. And, so I do gotcha questions. I admit that. So mine is a little bit, I know we're doing positive, but like I, because I worked in tabloids, I'm good friends

Unknown Speaker (25:35): with I just to be, I just wanna know positive stories, you know?

Unknown Speaker (25:39): Yeah. So I like

Unknown Speaker (25:40): the negative stories too. We just did one. I'd like a positive story.

Unknown Speaker (25:43): It is possible. Yeah. So I was trying to like, kind of change my reputation and I was like, you know what? Harry Mandel came on, I think a year or two ago and, And I'm trying to turn it around. So I was like I did I wound up asking him about Jennifer her J.

Unknown Speaker (26:00): Lo and and Ben Affleck at the time about their marriage. Okay. Can tell you was like it's like well, I don't know how Tommy is like how's your I was like, are you married? And, you know, as an interviewer, was like, I mean, no. I just got divorced last year.

Dominic Natti (26:13): I mean, he's like, well, what happened with your marriage? So I was like, well, you know, from me to him, it doesn't usually go this much. People I'm like, who cares? Like, I'm talking to you. People know who you are, you know?

Dominic Natti (26:25): But he he winds up, you know, kind of crying into my failed relationships, kind of to just fluff it on me, and then he's like, why don't you give me your ex wife's number? I'm gonna call her right now and try to get these guys back together. So and, you know, I can't and and I'll I'll be as transparent as I can. Like, when you're on these in these situations, I'm thinking, you know what? This can help with views.

Unknown Speaker (26:46): It's different. You know? I was like Right. I don't we don't wanna get back together. I was like, but I was like, let's do it.

Unknown Speaker (26:52): So I gave him the number. He called her up, and I'm texting her. I'm like I was like, this is not a joke. It's really how he's on Belle. Because yeah.

Unknown Speaker (26:59): Could tell her a

Unknown Speaker (27:00): Right on.

Dominic Natti (27:00): Oh, she's like, no. So we went out on a date and, pretended like you were getting back together for the you know? And, he put it on his on his grid at Instagram and it was was pretty cool and I didn't mind it because really what he was doing was like, you know, was trying to get him to like talk about other celebrities and stuff maybe for a sound bite and then yeah, kind of turned it on me It was like what if I spotted you're, you know, yours there. It's, you know, not in a real mean way, but just like

Unknown Speaker (27:27): which is valid.

Unknown Speaker (27:28): It's valid. And I think that when you do this long enough, I was like, you know what good for you. I deserve that and and and I didn't appreciate it because I was trying to talk to other girls, they're like, oh my gosh. I saw that you're getting back with your wife. And I like, no.

Dominic Natti (27:42): I was like, that's just like for the show. She's like, that's so sweet. I was like, no. So, know, he did ruin me a little bit, but it's like, it's all fair and entertainment, you know? Like, so that's

Unknown Speaker (27:54): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:54): Yeah. That's that's that's kinda how how I feel. And then, Dan Patrick is another one. Know. Are you guys sports fans?

Dominic Natti (28:00): Do you know Dan Patrick? Oh, Yeah. So that was an interesting one. He kinda he came on, with us who were very familiar with my style. He was like, even when, you know, he came in as an interviewer and just said, you do gotcha questions.

Dominic Natti (28:16): And this is why I don't do it, and I don't think that people should. And he was like, you don't care about the people that you interviewed. You're just trying you know, it's about you getting attention. And and it I I actually appreciate that because it gives him a chance to speak how he feels about other people in the industry. I mean, I disagree because I I don't have the platform he does.

Dominic Natti (28:35): I don't have the name he does, so I gotta, like, do something. You know? People don't wanna hear me talk about sports. You know? They wanna hear me tell about some something interesting.

Dominic Natti (28:43): You know? So but like I said, it's, I always love to give people a platform to say whatever they want.

Mike (28:51): And it's, it's like we had, we had a really good friend of ours that we've known. I've known, I don't know for how long, but he's been in the radio industry for forty plus years. He was a disc jockey in Arizona forever. Paul, Paul Marshall, I don't know if you know Neanderthal, and they moved to California to a whole bunch of California. But the cool thing about him is he has insight to musicians that nobody else has.

Mike (29:12): Right? Because back in the day, like when we were all kids growing up, you know, musicians went to radio stations for the day of their concerts and they did interviews and then everybody wait in the parking lot to see if they get a glimpse of these guys, rock stars when they came out of the interview and follow them down to the to the, you know, concert venue wherever they were. Mean, that's somebody who who us, you know, as fans, it was like, you know, he's on a pedestal. He's this guy that has access to the kingdom of rock and roll. I mean, it's same with country music and same with all different kinds of genres of music, but it's just that thing.

Unknown Speaker (29:41): They they had the door. They had the key to get in to pass everybody and sit down and talk to legends in the music industry. Right? Yeah. There

Unknown Speaker (29:48): was no Internet. There was no 200 channels of television back then. Right.

Mike (29:52): So that to me is really cool. So I keep kind of poking at him, like, dude, write a life story, write a book about what you do. So what you're doing appeals to us just as much because you're stepping into a space with someone like Dan Patrick, Bill Cosby, Allie Mandel, That the normal everyday person walking down the street will never have that opportunity to be face to face or on the phone and having whatever length of conversation you're having. That's cool. That's like your niche, regardless if it's positive or negative.

Unknown Speaker (30:20): So I think at whatever level either one of us are at, that's what we're doing here too. Right? We're giving Dominic a platform to talk about and explain what he's doing with his life and his social media and his business. It's it all we're all trying to pay it forward. Right?

Chris (30:35): Sure. One thing that I would like you to explain, and maybe I don't really understand myself. I think I do. But explain to our audience what a gotcha question is.

Unknown Speaker (30:44): Yes.

Unknown Speaker (30:44): Yes.

Unknown Speaker (30:44): Sure.

Unknown Speaker (30:44): Yeah. I'm I'm curious about that too.

Dominic Natti (30:46): Would get a so basically like right now I'm your guest. So right now I'm comfortable. I'm relaxed. I feel like you guys are here to promote me. Like, so you started asking, oh, tell us more about your show that you've kind of pumped me up.

Dominic Natti (30:59): And then out of nowhere, you'd be like, You know, I saw online that, you know, you're actually in like a legal issue, Dominic, now with some of these people. Like, just to clear it up, why did you say this? So basically you get me to get my guard down. The whole time, what you really want to talk to me about is Oh. You want to talk to me about the gossip or a legal problem or Oh.

Unknown Speaker (31:21): Someone else. And it's like, oh, like, did you act like Oh, it's just to clear things up, you know? And that's that's kind of the, the bullshit that I would do is like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So actually

Unknown Speaker (31:31): right now is a, I'm sorry, right now is like a great example. We, we've had you on for a half hour and Yeah. Bam, all of a sudden we're like, hey, what happened with X,

Dominic Natti (31:41): Y, No, I'm like, oh no, and then and then I'm on the spot and I can dodge the question and I I didn't know you guys were gonna do it and it's like, well, you know, now you might get a more candid answer out of me than if you just first of all, you don't tell me you're doing it ahead of time, and then second of all, you don't lead with it. So you get me to take my, put my guard down, think that you actually care about me, but really the whole time, you're just trying to get your sound bite so that you guys get your views. You know? So that's what I did. Yeah.

Dominic Natti (32:09): Okay. So I admit that, you know what I mean? And that's kind of what Dan was like, and I didn't deny it. He was like, he's like, you're just, it's just about you getting a tag. I can send you the clips.

Dominic Natti (32:20): So he's not really liked it, but because he saw the what I was doing, he just didn't think it was nice or appropriate. You know? A lot of people do it, you know, but I I don't I don't want from it. I was like, well, that is what I do, and those dudes are the most news, you know? So I I needed those juicy sound bits to get my show off as well, you know?

Unknown Speaker (32:41): So, but it is, it's

Unknown Speaker (32:43): Yeah. All Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (32:44): Okay. So, I did. I'll tell you one thing

Unknown Speaker (32:47): right now. We actually had who? Oh, Whoopi did? Right on.

Unknown Speaker (32:52): Yeah. Well, good job. I'm on you.

Unknown Speaker (32:53): It was a three minute interview and I

Unknown Speaker (32:55): Good job.

Unknown Speaker (32:55): Proud of you.

Unknown Speaker (32:56): Yeah. So I mean, luckily, she's not very well liked, but it was she had, like, Christmas sweaters now and they're like

Unknown Speaker (33:02): as well.

Dominic Natti (33:03): Right before they're like, oh, Joe, this is about her Christmas sweater line. I was like what now that and they never told me ahead of time and then I was like So I was like I don't have Christmas sweater questions for whooping over so I asked like I was like what patterns are coming out I was like and then I was like so the me too. It's really big right now. I was like were you ever sexually harassed? It's like is everyone else who's and it's just got like she was like no, I was real left field.

Unknown Speaker (33:27): I thought it'd be kind of just shocking and bizarre, you know, and it was I don't know like it made me Davis holiday like we're not talking about sexual harassment. Was like, I don't know. I just thought it was the next. I I had noticed like, I did it on purpose because I it's so often, but but yeah, but I mean it happens, you know what I mean? But yeah, I'm sorry.

Dominic Natti (33:45): You're gonna ask something else.

Unknown Speaker (33:48): No, you're fine. This is what we do, man. We're just having a Yeah. Actually to

Chris (33:53): make you famous, dude. Actually fascinated with what you're doing out there. I just wanted everybody to understand what that was, you know? Because I kinda,

Unknown Speaker (34:01): Yeah. Well, that's the rest

Unknown Speaker (34:01): of the doctor. Yeah. Doing, but I wanted everybody to understand.

Unknown Speaker (34:05): Yeah. And that's that's Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (34:06): That was a great question because I I didn't understand what that was. So it was a good question.

Chris (34:10): Well, we actually had the same thing happen in reverse just recently with the walking dad coming on. I mean, come on. He he actually asked us to collaborate with him, and he's got us out followed on Instagram about, I don't know, 10,000 to one. Yeah. He said, I do better with collaboration, so please collaborate with me.

Chris (34:32): And we did, and all of a sudden, Instagram kind of blew up as well. Sometimes you have it in reverse where people actually reach out to you and say, Hey, I'd like to do this and help you out.

Unknown Speaker (34:44): Well, and that's a good sign. They don't do that to me. So because you guys have a good reputation and they're reaching out to people that go through a lot, are not gonna make them look bad, which is understandable. I

Chris (34:56): don't even, I think it's all perspective, Dominic. Yeah. We just came at this from the same perspective we did as a rock band. Went out there and tried to be cool to people. We knew that we wrote great music.

Chris (35:07): Knew we were a good band. On top of that, you have to make connections and network, right? So the only way you can do that is to be positive in the music industry because if you get known as a dick, you're done. Yeah.

Mike (35:20): Yep. When I was on a high heart, dude, we'd have they'd have so many bands would come in and they'd do three, four song showcases at random, right? And the ones that were very gracious and grateful and appreciative of what iHeart was doing for them went on to do many, many things. The ones that would be fifteen, twenty minutes late, they'd only play one song. They wouldn't stick around, sign autographs.

Mike (35:40): They just they vanished because that got back to the iHeart executives like, okay, well, we're not going to help you anymore. So your music's no longer being played on this nationwide syndicated radio station and they went nowhere. Ironically, the best band that my producers that they had in the time I was there, was the Jonas Brothers. Like they showed up twenty minutes early, they played their four songs and then they went down to the front door and signed every single person's document, memorabilia, poster, CD, whatever. They were there for two and a half hours after they played their three songs in a summer heat, just signing stuff and taking pictures and shit because they were that gracious and appreciative.

Mike (36:22): And look how popular and look how long their career has been. Yep. So to me, it's regardless of if you sure in the pot or not, as long as you're genuine and you're not doing shit that's disrespectful to the people around you, I mean, you're going to get your views, how you get your views. You're going get your following, how you get your following. We will happily collaborate with you because you're cool Absolutely.

Mike (36:43): And it's either way it'll help you, it'll help us because that's what we do. So I don't think it's, I don't think it's really the perception of itself. I think it's the content you put out there and that's your genuine, you come across as genuine and you come across as honest and real. Like I like to say we're real, raw and relevant because how we approach this, it just makes it that much more fun for us, which then hopefully makes it much more fun for our guests. And, know, if I would have really read your bio, would have been a little freaked out and paranoid.

Mike (37:07): Oh shit. This guy's coming on the show, Mike, he's done 400 interviews because I did, I read it originally, but I forgot. And I'm not, I'm not one of those all shucks guys, but I would have been like, oh dude, we gotta be in our game today, but I'm glad I didn't because I just wanna be ourselves. And you know, this has been fun doing it this way than anything else.

Unknown Speaker (37:25): And I don't know when you reached out to us Dominic, but I screen them before I send them to him and I forgot about it as well. So I'm kind of happy right along

Unknown Speaker (37:33): with that. Gonna suffer. I'm so fucking think awful. There's a

Unknown Speaker (37:36): different angle.

Unknown Speaker (37:37): Yeah.

Mike (37:40): You're not forgetful, but our our our blessing is we're so we're so far ahead of our our bookings. Like we're July right now, July and August bookings. And when we met you, it was probably two months ago or at least So six weeks not that we we forgot about you. It's just that it's one of those things that I looked the day before the show. I'm like, yeah.

Mike (38:05): This guy's coming on tomorrow. This guy's coming on tomorrow. And I wrote it on the I got a desk count. This is how old school we are, dude. I have a desk calendar.

Mike (38:10): Your name's on the desk calendar. I go into the chrism, my Gmail, look up your name and send you an email.

Unknown Speaker (38:16): Wow. Yeah. No. You know what? I want to speak

Unknown Speaker (38:19): to That's the driving force, man.

Dominic Natti (38:21): You're right. I, I, since I've, I've come here, I actually, I just did a podcast in, in Mesa, with this young kid is 30 years old and he's just he's just starting to interview He's just started out and and I went and did it in his studio, you know, and and he was just yeah, you're right about the humility and that was the thing now He's he was kind of nervous and he was like I mean dude, I mean, you're the one, you know, you've interviewed hundreds of people's like, I want to get to be like you and he was very young and it was

Unknown Speaker (38:50): right

Dominic Natti (38:51): really nice and stuff. And I said, dude, I think you understand. I was like, I I left there and he acted like I did him a huge favor by coming on there. I was like, Do you know? And I wanna tell him later, he's like, Do you know how much I learned from you being 17 years old?

Unknown Speaker (39:07): That's awesome.

Unknown Speaker (39:08): The setup that he had. Yeah. I would kill for that. Mean, I was editing all

Unknown Speaker (39:12): of the I love that attitude, dude.

Unknown Speaker (39:14): And I I just I was like, you've I wasn't the one doing you a favor. It's like, you did me a huge favor. I didn't know that these editing software's like, we didn't have that. I was just the editor. I was, you know, I was like, this stuff you you taught me so much in just bringing me in the back room.

Unknown Speaker (39:29): That's cool.

Unknown Speaker (39:30): And showing me out, you know, and and and it was just like but it's it is because if I go in there and I'm like, yeah, it's really the truth is all the names I mentioned are old. You know what I mean? And and and then all these interviews, like I said, the Cosby one was 13 ago, you know? So it's like, if you just keep hanging out to that stuff and realize, dude, these kids can teach me so much, You know, like, then you just get lost, you know? And it's arrogance, arrogance is such a waste of time, you know?

Dominic Natti (39:58): So I think that

Unknown Speaker (39:59): It is.

Unknown Speaker (39:59): You just, it's just, you only hurt yourself. And because at the end of the day, nobody really cares. If you're an asshole, nobody cares I who you are or just thought that Vincent said. And I couldn't get Steve from Blue Squeeze was there. And I was just like, Hey, I just need to like do a whole

Unknown Speaker (40:15): Oh yeah, right on, man. I was like, just That would been awesome.

Unknown Speaker (40:19): Trying to make this video, like, you know, providing the press pass, and they're like, I know Steve can't talk to

Unknown Speaker (40:24): you right now.

Unknown Speaker (40:25): I was like, come on, like, dude. What are we talking about? I was like, I just just I asked him one question. I gotta make this video for the for the you know, they're like, no. You did you make an appointment?

Unknown Speaker (40:38): I was like, oh, fuck. Like, I mean, but, you know, and it's honestly, it's okay. I'm not saying it's Steve's fault, but it's like, you know, a part of me was like, are you kidding me that I can't ask for some blue schools? Like, what? You know, it's like things like that where it's like, so I just left.

Unknown Speaker (40:53): It's like, this is juicy. And they have like, was like, you know, wasn't his fault, but it's like, what

Unknown Speaker (40:59): was it? Was it the, was it the original Steve or the replacement Steve? Was it the original Steve Dominic or the

Unknown Speaker (41:08): replacement I, you know what? I think it was the, the second one. I think it was, yeah, not the original.

Unknown Speaker (41:13): Okay. Then yeah. See then he, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (41:15): Yeah. So it was not really what he's

Unknown Speaker (41:17): arrogant about.

Unknown Speaker (41:19): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (41:24): You're cleaning up the mess, man. Like shut up. I can't talk to Dominic now. Fuck you. Did you talk to John Cena?

Unknown Speaker (41:30): Cena's there tomorrow. So I'm a, I have a feeling honestly.

Unknown Speaker (41:33): Okay. Okay.

Dominic Natti (41:34): So I will give Phoenix credit. I had no idea. I thought there'd be like a couple 100 people there. There are thousands.

Unknown Speaker (41:41): It's Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (41:43): Oh yeah. Wow.

Unknown Speaker (41:43): It's way wrong.

Unknown Speaker (41:44): It's insane. Yeah. It's John Cena.

Unknown Speaker (41:46): Yeah. Well, Cena's not even there.

Unknown Speaker (41:48): Well, he's there till tomorrow.

Unknown Speaker (41:49): Oh, no. Like, yeah, it was, it wasn't even any big names there today, but yeah, I

Unknown Speaker (41:55): got You're telling you guys me hold, got hold on, hold on. Hold on. You're telling me the second Steve from Blue's Clues is pulling in thousands of

Dominic Natti (42:04): Well, not, no, I will say there is, there is

Unknown Speaker (42:08): not just him.

Unknown Speaker (42:09): There there's, yeah, there are about a 100 people listed on, you know, but he's, so there's a dog there. It's this really ugly dog from residential going with the tongue sticking out the side. Dog is Oh yeah,

Unknown Speaker (42:22): I remember that dog.

Dominic Natti (42:23): And I was like, Hey, can I get a picture with my son? They're like, Yeah, it's $60. I was like, What? What? They're like, You gotta get in line go pay It's over $60 for $50 No, the But my son was like, Can we do that?

Unknown Speaker (42:37): I was like, Absolutely not. I was like, out of principle. I have never paid to take pictures with him. Haven't slept with all of them. I have not paid $60 No.

Unknown Speaker (42:47): For the job. Like, but No. But there was a line. I mean, I will give you I I mean, I would have been in line with 20 or 30 people, so I don't know. I don't know what the hell is going

Unknown Speaker (42:57): to ask. That's just Yeah. I don't yeah.

Unknown Speaker (43:00): That's that's

Mike (43:01): just nuts, man. Maybe Mike, we should start charging people $60 to come on the show. Yeah.

Chris (43:06): But here's what I here's what I do wanna say about that. I'm glad that at least the dog is probably getting the money for the care that he needs to, you know, live out his life as a Yeah. Actor. As a dog It's better than a person getting money. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (43:22): Yeah. Guess so. Yeah. Yeah. That dog, that dog needs a lot of work.

Dominic Natti (43:27): Yeah.

Chris (43:28): Look at me. I'm trying to look at the positive.

Mike (43:34): That's ridiculous, man. Dollars 60. I can see like $5, you know, Like, $5.

Unknown Speaker (43:39): Yeah. I was like I I just thought I like, hey. I couldn't do it. No. I I've got too many pictures.

Unknown Speaker (43:45): I wouldn't have either. I'm just

Unknown Speaker (43:46): no. I was like, out of principle. I was like, I would buy him something else he wants for $60. I can't I just can't sleep at night. But but that's that's how it that's No.

Dominic Natti (43:55): Ironically, I see it as the opposite. I feel like people have lost a lot of interest in celebrity culture, you know, because, you know, even, like, when I do get these soundbite in these interviews, I don't feel like people care as much as they used to. They're they realized, why you do I pull a little so old than you You say or do know, I feel like that's really died

Unknown Speaker (44:13): I think that's positive for sure.

Unknown Speaker (44:14): Yeah, I think it is positive. Even though as someone that built a career on it, look at it and go, you know what? No one should have ever cared. You know what I mean? Like it really it really doesn't matter what these people say or thing you know so no and that's

Mike (44:28): and part of that part of that goes back yeah and part of that goes back to the political climate right because so many of these freaking celebrities now are just stick my nose in politics and we're supposed to listen to what they have to say and vote the way they want us to vote because really like you're so out of touch with like Ricky Gervais love Ricky Gervais. Have you ever interviewed have you ever interviewed him?

Dominic Natti (44:47): Never interviewed him but I I do follow his statements.

Unknown Speaker (44:50): Yeah. Yeah. I do like him. Love his approach to stuff, man. Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker (44:54): Like that's just that, but he's, he's spot on. That would be fantastic for you. You ever interview him, just tell him that Chris and Mike say hello. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (45:02): I will. I will. I would love

Unknown Speaker (45:04): to try to come

Unknown Speaker (45:05): hang out and spout opinions.

Unknown Speaker (45:07): Come on over. Yeah.

Mike (45:09): Now where, where you look, where, where, where are you located at? Cause obviously you don't live in Phoenix.

Dominic Natti (45:15): Scott, I'm in Tempe right now. There's been a little new, they made a couple of newspaper articles in the Scottsdale Independent. So I I have some presence in Scottsdale. That's kind of where I moved to. But then my son is going to ASU, I got right now, I got him a place in Tempe.

Dominic Natti (45:31): So I'm gonna stay in there.

Unknown Speaker (45:32): Okay.

Dominic Natti (45:33): So we figure out. But at this moment, this is our two key. So, if you guys know how it's, yeah,

Unknown Speaker (45:39): I'm familiar.

Unknown Speaker (45:40): This is the Castro.

Mike (45:41): I'm real estate guy, man. Lived there

Unknown Speaker (45:43): for almost twenty years too. This is familiar.

Mike (45:46): This my real, this is my real job Dominic. So,

Unknown Speaker (45:49): okay.

Mike (45:49): All over the valley, man.

Unknown Speaker (45:50): I see that. Oh, okay. That's you.

Unknown Speaker (45:53): Yeah. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker (45:54): I you. Yeah. I didn't put it together.

Unknown Speaker (45:57): There you go. See, see

Unknown Speaker (45:59): me too, buddy. Me too.

Unknown Speaker (46:00): There you go. So,

Unknown Speaker (46:02): you know, any time you

Mike (46:03): wanna give us some gotcha questions, bring it on, man.

Dominic Natti (46:05): Oh, for you guys, well, I'd have to do my research. That was kind of how the slash listing thing happened is I interviewed a guy named Todd Chrisley, whom Chrisley Knows Best, it's a reality show, he was in a tax Oh, no, no. You've heard him? Okay. So I asked if he's gay, and he asked very gay.

Dominic Natti (46:27): And then he was in this tax evasion thing, And then he said on my show that he gives a million dollars a year to the IRS in taxes. And that clip turned out to be a little rough for both of us because, I got a call a year later from the news in Atlanta, and they said that the IRS included that in their dockets that, you know, for their case against him. Is that what he said on my interview? And then some articles came out saying that that's where he he went to jail and then Trump pardoned him. And a lot of people say that my interview put him in jail.

Dominic Natti (47:04): I feel like that's too much, but, like Mhmm. But that that doesn't help. To have those articles out there saying that my interviews are putting people away and then the president is pardoning them a few years later. I mean, it's Yeah. It kind of makes people just They say like, well, I don't think I wanna come on your show at all, but You know?

Unknown Speaker (47:23): So Yeah. That that It did Yeah. It's was a couple of things. I I did one with Tito Ortiz. He's a UFC fighter.

Unknown Speaker (47:32): Oh. And I I wound up asking him, if he could beat John Jones. I was like, you ever think in your prime you could beat John Jones if you're in the same weight class? And he was like, yeah, think that goes. And then that, I don't know if you guys know UNC, but that's, that is not accurate.

Unknown Speaker (47:47): I mean, yeah, we do. Yeah. Yeah. So, so you don't get out of the job. But then Cormier wanted John

Unknown Speaker (47:52): Jones is pound for pound, probably the best other than maybe Mighty Mouse.

Dominic Natti (47:58): I mean, I think Cormier wanted to that. Demetrius Johnson. Apology to Dana White because of that. So it's like, just like, I mean, it kind of, the list kind of goes on and on, you know, but it's like, really, was just trying to, but there it's like asking those questions putting people on the spot. You almost feel like well what am I gonna say?

Unknown Speaker (48:16): Yeah, as a fighter this guy would kick my ass like so but once you say it if you take that one, you know, third and second clip it's like what is this guy going on the show just calling out John Judson. I'm the one that brought it up, you know, so it's like that that's kind of, kind of the format that I did, you know, so

Mike (48:35): but I but but I think that approach is refreshing as a as a as opposed to, hey, you know, like like the reporters you see on TV right after you win. Like, if the Knicks win the NBA championship, the first fucking question is, hey, Dominic, you just won the championship game. How do you feel? Well, feel like shit, Mary. You know?

Unknown Speaker (48:53): It's just the worst day of my life. I don't, I, I couldn't get up right this morning. I couldn't get my coffee. Right. I just, it was terrible.

Mike (49:00): I'm alive. I did everything I could to lose. Like the, the stupidest, most obvious questions, Right. Yeah. Just ask something that, that is, is not so commonplace.

Mike (49:11): It's it's, I just, I, I don't watch interviews after those things now, because they're just, they don't know how to interview people. They don't ask anything. That's, that's really, how do you expect them to feel, man? They just won the championship game.

Unknown Speaker (49:24): And it sucks. I'd rather have your

Mike (49:27): approach where Right. But I'd rather have your question, like questions and kind of open things up and a little shock and awe and you know, it's more entertaining because

Dominic Natti (49:40): yeah. It's like, it's just, if I would've stepped with Whoopi Goldberg, like if I would've done the sweater thing like then you'd be like, did you guys ever slip me into Whoopi Goldberg when we talked about her Christmas sweater for twenty minutes? No, that's fine. Was like, what do want me to do? So I'd rather have you hang up on me.

Dominic Natti (49:58): It's a better story, you know, but it's like you just got even if like I said, even if someone's got to get sacrificed if you do that type. So like what how he did with me, he flips it around. I was like, you know what?

Unknown Speaker (50:10): That was I

Dominic Natti (50:11): deserve that. I was like a number two. I mean, because you're dealing with, you know, I'm pretty good, but like these people are experts too on how to like how to entertain and how to handle things and how to pick I up their mean, he's better than me. So it's like the fact that I got so many people. It's like, you're an entertainer.

Unknown Speaker (50:29): Like how come you're so stupid? Like why am I pushing you? So it's better when when they see it come and they're like, hey, fuck you. I'm you like it. I was like, well, it could be like, I mean, I I don't mind losing.

Dominic Natti (50:41): Like, just don't want to bore people. Even if I'm the one that looks like the fool, I've had people cuss me out. Was like, heck, he don't. Like, I mean, he cuss me out. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (50:50): Love it. Like I, I had a troll that would come in.

Unknown Speaker (50:52): You kind of got to, you expect it, right?

Unknown Speaker (50:55): Yeah. Oh yeah. You

Mike (50:56): know, yeah, you know, somebody's come. Yeah. You know, yeah. Yeah. Right.

Unknown Speaker (51:00): That's what, yeah, exactly. You want, you want the reaction, which is why you ask the question. Yeah. You know, then after the reaction, the question just falls flat. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker (51:09): Yeah. I would, and then people would come in

Chris (51:11): and ask now that we went down that road, sorry to interrupt you, Dominic, but it just, it sparked a question. Has anybody ever gotten hostile with you? Like I know cussing you out is one thing, but have you ever been face to face where somebody's actually gotten hostile with you? Where you felt threatened?

Dominic Natti (51:28): I I'm a little, I'm a little bit of a bitch, like face to face. I mean, but, I I it's it's easy, like, when it's like this. You know? It depends on even I interviewed Mark Henry who was a a wrestler, the world's strongest man. I don't know if you know who then I'll He I've heard the name.

Dominic Natti (51:45): Yeah. He's pretty big. Yeah. He just said he was starting to and and got upset, and I but it's not necessarily, like, in person where people have some some rap artists have. You wouldn't probably know who they are, but, like, I I try to take pictures and I'll go, you know, you know, and be that's more my thing is I'll be aggressive where I'm, like, forced my way in and try to get a photo or an interview, you know, and then some of their their bodyguards don't like it.

Dominic Natti (52:15): You know? And so, yeah, I've had incidents like that. I did a Tyler Perry movie, Madea movie, and I was just real I'm real obnoxious on red carpets because I I gotta get stuff from my client, you know, and that's just the way I am. I'm very aggressive, and they wound up kicking me off. They're like, we need this guy out of here, you know?

Dominic Natti (52:35): So and then I had an incident with Jamie Foxx, wasn't Jamie's fault because his his the security for the venue just I don't know. I guess that would be my example is there was a party with Jamie Foxx's best friend. Now this girl is gonna tell me I tell me I'm wrong, but this is how it happened. I wasn't invited. This girl was invited and she brought me.

Dominic Natti (52:56): And then she wound up backing out and not going because of COVID. She was nervous. So I went by myself and I'm up on the stage with Jamie Foxx and I was just trying to get like a picture with him. And the security came over and just pointed right at me and was like, I want this guy off the stage. Trust me.

Unknown Speaker (53:13): Oh. And I was like, was

Unknown Speaker (53:15): like, wow.

Unknown Speaker (53:16): And then he was like, I want you, I want you out of here. And I didn't do anything. Would admit it, I was like, but I was like, and then to the point where Jamie Fox turned to me, he goes, woah, woah, He's like, what's going on? And I was like, I I don't know. And he was like, he was like, no, I need him out of here.

Unknown Speaker (53:31): Jamie goes, what did he do? He was really cool. He was like, sticking up. And I was like

Unknown Speaker (53:35): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (53:35): I I didn't do anything. And he was like, what do you want? I was like, I was supposed to try to take a picture with you. And the guy's like, no. I want him out.

Dominic Natti (53:41): And then he was like, man, think he better go. So then I, like, sit on the side of the stage instead of me, you know, he wanted me off the stage. I tried to get away with it, and then he was like, I said get off the stage. That way the child was, like, all the by the stairs. And I was like, fuck you.

Dominic Natti (53:55): Wow. Like like, alright. Yeah. Didn't wanna get back. And then it was the next day.

Unknown Speaker (54:01): Like, I was like, god. I I didn't even do anything. You know? So I was like, do you either, like, recognize Wow. Me or But then the girl's like, oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (54:08): Did you go to that party? I was like, yeah. She goes, like, for that second, the guy that the party's for is, like, in love with me and he wanted like, wanted to marry me. She's like, so I mean he might be a little weird. I was like a little weird I was like you brought me to your date and then you didn't go I was like, do you know if they were like kicking after them like so I mean, I don't know if it's because of a girl or because the guy, like, just knew I was a troublemaker or whatever, you know, but it's like, you just kinda, like, feel those things out.

Unknown Speaker (54:39): So, like, you know, am I really gonna get my ass kicked or you know? So I I just yeah. I wanna that one that one turned out alright, but it's like sometimes it's like you never know. I don't know what his problem was with me, but I guess we'll never know. You know, those it might've been the girl.

Dominic Natti (54:53): Like, if I was the date of the girl that didn't go to the guy that the party store wanted to marry, they might not have wanted to there. You know? It could be that. I don't know. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (55:02): But Jamie Foxx was very cool.

Unknown Speaker (55:06): That's awesome. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (55:08): That is cool.

Unknown Speaker (55:09): I like

Unknown Speaker (55:09): that part of the story.

Unknown Speaker (55:10): Yeah. Yeah. That's a positive. Give me positive. Jim.

Unknown Speaker (55:18): Right on. Yes. So

Mike (55:21): how long have you been doing this Dominic?

Dominic Natti (55:23): So I have been a publicist for twenty years. I started my show in 2016.

Unknown Speaker (55:28): Okay.

Dominic Natti (55:29): And, yeah, it's, it's been a while and I think a lot of times in entertainment, you know, you all stay fluid. I feel like I'm looking these days, I I should probably tell you, I'm I guess I'm also an influencer. I've got a 100,000,000 views. I love to play around with social media and make It videos and have seems like people are more interested in fact that, yeah, I love to do it. I just, I only have like, you know, like, I don't even, I don't like 17,000 followers or whatever, but I got, you know, like my last two videos, I think they've got like 6,000,000 views total.

Dominic Natti (56:04): So it's like, people are more interested in that. Than pretty much like anything I've done just because I've gone viral. I got a viral video with Shaquille O'Neal. That was a fun one. And people just, they just kind of ask me like, well, how do you do this?

Dominic Natti (56:18): And, you know, so I've been doing some coaching and consulting for, you know, social growth in that area. You know, it's, I mean, not everyone likes what I have to tell them, but it's a lot of it is just, you just gotta keep putting yourself out there if that's what you want, you know, just like with you guys, you know, it's like, you just try different formats and different topics and then you see which one the audience like the most and then you go go with that, you know? I mean, that's that's a lot of entertaining people's. I don't know. You know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker (56:49): I don't know what people want to hear, you know, for me.

Chris (56:51): Well, like Chris said earlier, I mean, for good or bad, we were totally unprepared and we're totally unprepared for almost every interview we do. And that's by design. We want this to be as organic as possible. Right? Just your reaction, ours as well.

Unknown Speaker (57:07): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (57:07): Yeah. I agree. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (57:09): Yeah. So it's, it's purposely unprepared. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (57:13): That's good.

Unknown Speaker (57:13): Organized chaos. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (57:15): Sounds like my collegiate career. I'm prepared.

Unknown Speaker (57:19): Yeah. Where'd you go to college?

Dominic Natti (57:22): I, I went to, I went to community college and then I actually went to school, for ministry for a little bit and I didn't complete, anymore. So I, working in film and, my first break was like in 2005 with, I got, I worked on Talladega Nights and Will, Will Ferrell and, then that guy. So I kind of got into that and went to that and I realized I'm like, dude, I just love this. I don't, don't I don't wanna go to speed. I wanna just, you know, work and get up more on, more movie and two d sets.

Unknown Speaker (57:52): And so that that seems to be, you know, the the the goal for me. So but I I tell people to, you know, like, please

Unknown Speaker (58:00): don't with

Unknown Speaker (58:00): the gut.

Mike (58:03): No, I was just gonna ask you with Talladega Nights. I mean, the stories behind that is the bulk of that thing was improv. Is that accurate?

Dominic Natti (58:11): Yeah. So like you get the script ahead of time. And I remember reading the script, you know, and I was like, this is terrible. I was like, I'm gonna work on a terrible movie that's gonna flop. I was like, this shit is horrendous.

Dominic Natti (58:23): Now, I'm a kid and I, you know, I'm 20 years I just, I didn't get it. We, I probably got that script somewhere. It's not, and then you realize it's just a skeleton. Right? So it's like it's just like this.

Dominic Natti (58:36): Like, oh, you know, we might map out what we were gonna do today, but it takes its own direction, you know, and that's that's how those guys do comedy is on the spot, and they just keep going over and over. Yeah. Until they get, yeah, different tapes and and, different ad libs and and then they piece it together and and make the show. But I didn't know that, you know, so you get the script and you're like, you don't really lapse one time reading through it. So, but you realize that that's

Unknown Speaker (59:03): really

Unknown Speaker (59:03): that's just really the scenes, you know, I mean, that's the scenes and the ideas. Yeah. And then you hear the director yell out like say this, you know I mean? And or you know, you as well through don't know what they're gonna say and then you'd like move in, start laughing, you know, right? That that song that that was that was my big name.

Dominic Natti (59:22): That was probably the celebrity I've met the most that I appreciated the most was was probably North Carol. Yeah, he was I I I really I I thought he was because I was too I mean, I'm just nobody, you know? And it's like, I'm just a guy. My whole job was to fly Jed Apatow to the set. All I was there for, and and I They wanted to fire me.

Unknown Speaker (59:42): Right. And I'd actually don't know Jed Apatow is, because he's he wound up going to bat for me and,

Unknown Speaker (59:47): and Yeah,

Unknown Speaker (59:48): know he is. I know he is. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (59:49): Yeah. So they, he, they didn't like me because I wasn't part of the union and, they're trying to get rid of me. And Judd actually called there and was like,

Unknown Speaker (59:57): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (59:58): Told, told me to, yeah, because I was really unprepared and, and he he helped me keep that that position and same thing with Will. If you want us playing basketball on our off days and and I we're shooting for teams and I want to play in two on two basketball. Me and no failures. These two guys and and we won. So I was and then he remembered me.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:17): That was the big. Yeah. Had to drop some off in his trailer. He opened the door and I was like, there was some, you know, and he was like, Solomon. And that just, yeah, I mean, I'm no funny.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:27): I was like, and then I just froze. He's like, come on in. I was like, you know, I just like sat in his trailer.

Chris (1:00:33): Those are the stories about celebrities that I really appreciate, man. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:37): Yeah. Was just because especially when there's just like, there's no nothing in it for him. Like, be nice to Dominic. He's a guy that drive, you know,

Chris (1:00:45): 100% what I mean. Yeah.

Dominic Natti (1:00:46): Yeah. It's like, but I'll never forget it. And if anything, I just it was him and all the directors in the and I just I just couldn't. I was just so uncomfortable. I was like, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:58): And the whole thing Dominic is he knows that he has to know that. Right? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:02): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:02): He's a smart

Unknown Speaker (1:01:03): guy.

Chris (1:01:03): He became a superstar. So he knows what he did for you and he didn't make you feel like he knew that that's an art to be that famous and be able to do that for someone.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:14): Yeah, it's very appreciative. And also inviting you in with all the directors and they're like, you know, who's this guy? You know, because it's, you know, it could be a big mistake if ruins the atmosphere, you know, so it's like, sure, yeah, because it's like that I just sat there and didn't know what to do and but it but I'll never forget. Mean, he'll forget he forgot it, but I didn't, you know, so it's that's what makes it special. You know, it meant a lot to me.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:37): No, because if you're

Chris (1:01:39): lucky enough to be that guy where you bring in the nobody, all you gotta say is he's with me, right? That's all you Shut need to up. Yeah. He's with me. Exactly.

Dominic Natti (1:01:48): Don't worry about it. Yeah. It's a great feeling, you know, and that's why, I think that's why, I mean, you talk about, like, the Jonas Brothers and stuff like that. It's what happened along the way. Like, for me for me to sit at someone else's podcast that, like, is just starting off, just starting to interview, like, could I be arrogant and be like, you know, was interviewing way more people than you and I've interviewed.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:07): So, like, why would I do that? Like, I'm like, hey, yeah. Like, but some people would. Like, they just have to prove, you know, how who I am, you know? And I think for me, people were were nice for me and they you know?

Dominic Natti (1:02:18): So it's like, hey, man. I know you're just starting off. See, that's why I I drove down here, you know, to to do the show because, you know, I mean, I'm happy that you're you're starting off. You know what I mean? Like and that that's what I tried to teach him that I was like, you know what's funny?

Dominic Natti (1:02:31): I just moved here four months ago, and what I'm trying to do is not be 47 year old dominant. I'm trying to go back twenty years to exactly where that kid was because that version of me was way better than this guy. Guy is useless. I'm just the guy with the story. I have no I I need to tap into that creativity and that desperation of, like, I gotta figure this shit out.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:55): You know what I mean? Like and now I'm just I don't I don't even like it like this. It's like, well, tell us how you did this. I was like, I wanna do more, but I can't do it unless I tap into that 27 year old kid that was just

Unknown Speaker (1:03:08): Right.

Dominic Natti (1:03:08): Who knows what the fuck? You know what mean? Just taking risks and trying new things and just said, I don't know what I'm doing, like, and then things worked out, you know? It's worse sometimes when you have a reputation of being successful because it's like, yeah, but it's not working anymore. So, I need new ideas.

Dominic Natti (1:03:28): I gotta go back in time to find that person, you know? I think that's

Unknown Speaker (1:03:33): see that.

Dominic Natti (1:03:33): Yeah. And that kid was way more creative than who I am today. So I'm trying to

Chris (1:03:38): find I said that to Chris on this show, Dominic. He's told me stories that we did when we were 20 and he's three years older than me, I think. Yeah. When we were back there, I've heard stories on this podcast that I had forgotten about for one reason or another. And it's like, wow, I really did that?

Mike (1:03:56): Yeah. And the same thing and reverse it because the same thing he's dropped stuff that like, all right, right on. You know, it's just, you just don't remember that shit because you're, you get old man and life happens. Yeah. I'd like the way

Chris (1:04:07): he explained, you know, tapping back into where was that person that really wanted to take over the world, You know? Yeah. Right. Be creative and had the fire and the passion. And unfortunately, the one thing we probably lack right now is the time.

Chris (1:04:22): Right?

Dominic Natti (1:04:22): Right. Yeah. Yeah. The time is up. Things are different.

Dominic Natti (1:04:26): And that's what I told me. It was like, but how did you do that? You kept going through my IMGB. And he's like, you looked at Hell's Kitchen, the Emmy Awards. And like, he was like, dude, you know how I did that?

Dominic Natti (1:04:34): I was like, my biggest wins came when I was unaware that I was losing. I was like, that's how I do that. I didn't know what a failure I was. Yeah. Until I was like, I collected my L's after the W.

Dominic Natti (1:04:47): I was like, you're looking at IMDb credits, I have 33 of them. What they don't list is the thousands of people that said no to me. You know what I mean? I was like, those are the trends that I got. I was losing that whole time.

Dominic Natti (1:05:00): I didn't even realize what a loser I was until I got that win. I was like, that's how I got there. Just constantly, no, no, no, no, no. And then yes. And it's like, oh, how did you do that?

Unknown Speaker (1:05:12): I was like, do you mean? I was like, I don't know. I guess this is by being a loser. That's how you know, it's like, it's like a nets. I just didn't have time to humps, you know?

Unknown Speaker (1:05:21): So, yeah.

Mike (1:05:22): Well, and it's, mean, that's the key to that is how you you you lost. So you fell down, but the way you got up is what made you the person you are today. And that's kind of the thing that I've always told my, my, my kids is not how you fall down. It's how you get back up. You're going to fall.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:34): Everybody's going to fall. Everybody's going to fail. You're going get more nos than you already yeses. You're here today because you got thousands of nos. And then you finally got a yes.

Mike (1:05:41): And that yes, I'll do another yes. Do another yes. And you know, now you built this really cool career out of pissing people off because you're asking them real and honest questions that nobody else wants to, you know? I mean, that's, it'd be fun to have an interview with Cosby now and just say, Hey Bill.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:56): Well, me?

Unknown Speaker (1:05:57): Are you still worried Cuss about word.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:59): Somebody said shit. God, that really hurt your reputation. Don't let downhill after

Unknown Speaker (1:06:03): that. That really hurts your reputation, my

Unknown Speaker (1:06:10): god. Not great.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:11): Seem to have gone south since then.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:14): Yeah. It's not the 50 rapes. It's the potluck. Yeah. It's it's the language.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:18): Right. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:21): That's awesome. You should write a book, man, about all your all your interviews and the ups and downs of that. That would be fascinating to read.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:27): Yeah. Yeah. That's it. It's not a bad not a bad idea. Yeah.

Dominic Natti (1:06:30): Yeah. It's been fun. And then celebrities are individuals, you know, it's like it's a different story which is one because, you know, and it's I think it's I always believe it's the way that you were treated on your journey is like what you will reflect. You know, like I said, my friend from Arrow Smith, his name is Brad Whitford. He's a he's the blonde guitarist.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:50): Love Brad.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:51): Yeah, Brad is awesome. We were like we we became good friends when I lived in Charlotte and we would go and and hang out and I would invite him. They weren't touring because I think the guys were getting surgery. So like he's a golfer, and I would dream all the celebrity golf events that I would be to at. And Cool.

Dominic Natti (1:07:07): And he was like, you know, it it was interesting to hear. He goes, you know what was crazy is I got a nephew, and his music instructor told him, you're probably not gonna make it. And he was like, why would you say that to a kid? Like, I can't, you know, just put it. Couldn't believe it.

Dominic Natti (1:07:24): I said, yeah. And, and I said, man, you're talking? Now he doesn't know you're talking to a guy. His uncle is an ailment, you know? And and it's like from Brad's perspective is that's not true.

Dominic Natti (1:07:38): Honestly, it is true. Statistically, yes. Like, you are not gonna like, it's not about statistics though. It's just like, you know, from his perspective, it was like, who would say something like that? People that are depressed.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:50): Don't ever tell that to a child though. Jesus.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:52): Never say that to a kid?

Unknown Speaker (1:07:53): Yeah. That's

Unknown Speaker (1:07:53): And it's people that, that's the people you don't listen to. It's people that aren't

Chris (1:07:58): I started off. I had a great teacher, man, and I probably had, in his eyes, 0% chance of even learning to play a guitar, let alone being in a band. Right? But all he ever did is encourage me. And then I taught hundreds of students when I lived in Phoenix, and I always did the same thing.

Chris (1:08:16): There were certain kids you saw, you're like, there is no way in hell this kid's ever gonna learn how to play guitar. But I never told him that. Right?

Unknown Speaker (1:08:23): Right. No.

Unknown Speaker (1:08:24): It was always you're

Mike (1:08:25): doing great, man. You're doing great. You're improving. Yeah. We, we went so far as to do research about the odds to be an NFL quarterback.

Mike (1:08:34): Okay. Yep. The odds to be an NFL quarterback, just the odds to get drafted in the NFL. Dominic is 0.005%. To be a quarterback, it was 0.00018%.

Mike (1:08:46): Like that's how rare that shit is. So when, when somebody kind of drops that bomb, it's like, well, yeah, it's probably true, but shut up. Let them have, let them have their dream, let them have something to work towards because that's, what's kind of motivating them and driving them to get better at whatever it is they're doing. Whether they reach the pinnacle or not, it doesn't matter, but the journey to get there is something they can hold onto to the rest of their life.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:11): I totally, that's exactly right. And that's what I tell people. Said, my motto in life is I was, I will always fear regret more than rejection. And I just There you go. Did not wanna get, I remember talking to a guy that was my age, he was 47 and I was 24.

Dominic Natti (1:09:28): And he was like, there's a lot of things I wanted to do, but he just never did them. And then I go, one day I will wake up and I will be 47. I will be this age. If I know that I didn't do it because I was afraid of failure, I knew I won't be able to live with myself, you know? That's, that fear has kind of pushed me where it's like, told me no.

Dominic Natti (1:09:47): Was like, yeah, you should tell me no. I well, why would you say yes? You know, like Talladega Nights, like, why would you hire me? Like, I was like, I I was a wedding videographer. Like, I was like, why would I work on a big movie if they did say yes?

Dominic Natti (1:10:00): That's the and a a lot of places said no. Yeah. But I I mean, I walked into I'll tell you that story because it was it's I I walked into a film studio. I said, I heard that they're they're doing a movie in town here in Charlotte with Will Ferrell. And the guy said, yeah.

Dominic Natti (1:10:14): Here's the fax number. Number. He goes, listen, I've seen your resume. You can fax with a resume, he goes, but they're not gonna hire you. And I said, okay.

Dominic Natti (1:10:22): And I walked out, said, you know what? He's right. Look at this. I'm a wedding city manager. So I looked, I googled the fax number, found the office.

Dominic Natti (1:10:29): And the next day I put on a shirt and tie and I walked in the office and I said, I'd like to apply for the, any available positions. And I hope you know anything about major phone

Unknown Speaker (1:10:38): lines.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:39): So they were like, the guy just, I mean, starts looking around at people and he was like, what? So I was like, that's my resume. And I didn't know We don't get anything. It was like, they're all just, I mean, dead quiet. Like, what?

Unknown Speaker (1:10:55): This was just like, he just looks at his like wedding videos. I was like, and then some church. Did some stuff in my, it was a church. It's like, like, pretty cool videos. And I'm just standing there and he was like, he was like, I don't, I don't know what to tell you, man.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:12): I've never had someone walk in here at the restaurant. He's like, they're just like, I've made some pretty

Unknown Speaker (1:11:19): cool videos.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:19): You what mean? I just, you might've seen them. Probably not. I don't know you go to that church, But, they they were like and he he's and if you're getting married, could do that. Like, I was so good.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:32): He was like, he goes, listen. We got one job when I'm looking to fill left. He's like, he's just driving the director around. I was like, I'll do that too. I could do that.

Dominic Natti (1:11:40): Like and, honestly, it's like, I don't know if they just were like, this kid is such an idiot. Like, I was I they they got they gave me the job. I have no I had just moved there two weeks earlier. I lied and was like said I've been there for years. I I just wanna do it, and they they wound up working out and, but it's that's the story.

Dominic Natti (1:11:58): Now that story easily could have been like, oh my god. I wouldn't remember it. Like, They just laughed at me and all that. Yeah. That's how it should have ended.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:06): That's how it's, you know.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:07): Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:07): But if I wasn't up for another rejection like, that story has a different ending, know, and that's why we'll talk about it. You know, that's, I just never know. I would've never thought that would be it, you know, like still be a wedding video. Was told if they didn't say yes.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:25): That was a great story, dude. That's amazing.

Mike (1:12:27): That's a great, that's a great, that's a great spot to wrap this up, get you out of the heat and on with your day. If you're, if you're, if you're feeling, if you're feeling sad and depressed, don't know how you could, we've been talking to Dom McNatti. This dude's funniest, has a great connection So, me, which we so we truly appreciate you, you spending time with us, but if you are feeling sad and suicidal depressed, don't do it. Go, go scream at a pillow, go journal, go find somebody to talk to. If you're in Arizona, don't go outside and run.

Mike (1:12:54): It's too hot. That'll probably make you feel worse. But, and if you just can't find somebody sunflowersilver.com is a great resource for you. Zobe Space AI is a great resource for you too, as well. We learned that from our friend, Eric Zink, who's all about helping recovery addicts and getting you over that hump and helping change your mindset.

Mike (1:13:14): Tomorrow is a much better day with you in it, so don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart for that. Okay? So Dominic Nati over here, if you want to find out more about him, just Google him. D o m e n I c k Nati, n a t I. You're going to find all his stuff.

Mike (1:13:27): He's talked to people that you're going to just fall off your chair when you read his resume of interviews and conversations he's had. He's touched on a few of them here. We could probably talk for another three, four hours, but he's outside in Arizona. It's over a 100 degrees. He's hanging out in Hauatuke at a bar.

Mike (1:13:41): People are feeding him water while he's, you know, hitting his big fat cigars. Come back quickly.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:45): Not in the heat, Dom.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:47): Yeah. I know. Right. You know, next will be the answer to

Mike (1:13:51): Well, especially, especially now that I know you're in Arizona, by all means, I'll shoot you an email when we're done, we can exchange numbers. And anytime you want to talk about something, just reach out and we'll get you

Unknown Speaker (1:13:59): on. Yeah,

Mike (1:14:01): absolutely. Truly, truly appreciate your time, man. It's been, it's been a pleasure meeting you and getting to know you and have a conversation with you. You're a great human. Tell your son, good luck at ASU.

Mike (1:14:10): My wife's a, a Sun Devil graduate. So, know, go Devils. It's a, it's a great school. Tempe's a cool little town. If you haven't explored it yet, definitely go nightlife stuff.

Mike (1:14:19): It's pretty awesome. It's supported our band for

Unknown Speaker (1:14:20): a long time. Thank you.

Mike (1:14:21): Yeah. There's a piano bar dude. That's a blast. You should go check that out. Go check that out for sure.

Mike (1:14:26): Okay. For Chris, for the Chris and Mike show, I'm Chris. He's Mike. This again, Dominic Natty. You wanna find out more Google the man.

Mike (1:14:33): You're gonna find out all this stuff Until next time, everybody. We love you. Peace. See you. Thanks again, Dominic.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:39): Love you, brother.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:40): Thank you, guys.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:40): Yeah. See you,