#191 - The Dynamics of Conversation

Unknown Speaker (0:06): Right? And we're live. We are live, boys and girls. If you didn't know that, here we are. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (0:17): Yeah. Glitching. Now this will be interesting. I'm still up 39%, man. What?

Speaker 0 (0:56): Yeah. I really don't understand why the Internet I

Speaker 1 (1:02): it just doesn't like you for some reason. I don't understand. It's irrational.

Speaker 0 (1:07): It's ridiculous because I re I restart. Well, since it's just you and I, we're gonna play a game here. So right now, I'm on I'm on the, Starlink.

Speaker 1 (1:21): One of the Starlinks. If you noticed, you have something else going on that doesn't normally happen. Oh, there it went away.

Unknown Speaker (1:26): There's two Starlinks. Oh, because you're sweating. I get it. It's thinking. It's thinking.

Unknown Speaker (1:33): Uh-huh. He was having constant back to recognize too, which is unusual.

Speaker 0 (1:38): Trying to reconnect. Okay. So I went to the other Starlink. So let's see what happens there. Can you see me now, or am I frozen still?

Speaker 0 (1:50): Oh, let's see.

Speaker 1 (1:52): You're kinda like a robot.

Unknown Speaker (1:56): Okay. Robot. So we're gonna go to the other one.

Speaker 1 (2:00): Actually, you act really like a robot. Now you're frozen.

Unknown Speaker (2:07): Gonna be a free man. Just

Speaker 1 (2:12): frozen in time. I guess this is a good time to tell you all that we're brought to you by Riverside FM. The only place for your podcast platforms and all other things. Oh, now he's gone. It's just me.

Speaker 1 (2:31): Here we are in my studio. We're connected, and we're uploaded to 98%, 99%. He lives in a city of, like, 3,000,000 people, and I live in the middle of a cornfield, basically. And I'm the one that stays connected. It's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (2:55): It's a testament to fiber optic networks. So shout out to Pavlov Media. Congratulations for keeping me connected for almost 200 episodes now. Well, a 150 because the reason I switched was DSL wasn't cutting it. He's on cable and Starlink, which Starlink is supposed to be the be all end all of satellite internet.

Speaker 1 (3:19): Right? And in his case, it's just not the case. Oh, there

Speaker 0 (3:26): he is. I have no idea. It says it asked me if I want more streaming power to upgrade, whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (3:37): And if that's only for changing the resolution so right now when we upload to YouTube, we're at seven twenty. Oh, right on. And if we upgrade, we can go to ten eighty, which is HD. So we're recording not in HD, I guess is the point.

Speaker 0 (3:54): Yeah. And I'm at I'm at 15% upload, so it's still slower than shit. I need to call Cox. Maybe they need to, like, reset the cache because, you know, every now and then, they do something on there and they reset everything. But I don't know.

Speaker 0 (4:10): I don't know. It's fucking stupid. 15%, man. Well, that's what I was

Speaker 1 (4:15): saying when you were gone. Like, you live in a city of 3,000,000 people and I basically live in the middle of a cornfield. Right. You would think it would be reversed.

Speaker 0 (4:25): Right? Yeah. I, yeah. You would think, man, I don't get it at all. And it's, and it's been happening a lot lately.

Speaker 0 (4:31): Usually when it's just you and I, I don't have problems. Usually when it's just you and I, I'm styling. Yeah. You know? Styling.

Speaker 0 (4:40): Styling. I'm gonna try this one. Let's see what happens. This is a Verizon. This is like the third generation backup just to have it.

Speaker 0 (4:49): Can only experiment while we have time here.

Speaker 1 (4:52): For sure. Is hard to have a podcast if you can't communicate with the other person, for sure. You're there now. I'm there now. Okay.

Speaker 1 (5:08): Yeah. Now you're back. Okay.

Speaker 0 (5:09): Is it is it back strong? My back strong?

Speaker 1 (5:15): Yeah. Your audio's good. Yeah. You're oh, there now your video cleaned up too. Oh, now I have no audio at all.

Speaker 1 (5:27): Oh, now I have no Chris. Yeah. That one worked good for a second, but then it kinda petered out real quick, which is unfortunate because I think that was the best version of the three. And I'm gonna sneeze. Hopefully not.

Speaker 1 (5:49): Because usually I have about 15 in a row, so we'll hope that doesn't happen. Maybe I need some water because coffee makes you dehydrated for sure. That still fascinates me that he has three choices, and not one of them is capable of uploading. Let's see. Now he's texting us.

Speaker 1 (6:18): So unable to connect. We're having issues reaching out our server. Please verify your Internet connection is stable and you don't have any firewall VPN blocking that connection to Riverside. Probably going to have to try and restart your computer again. I would guess.

Speaker 1 (6:46): Let me email him here real quick. Yeah. That's very frustrating when you can't stay connected, and you're trying to do a podcast from almost 2,000 miles away. But when in doubt, the only thing I know how to do is restart the computer or reach out to tech support, and that's gonna take a minute. So we'll let him try and restart and figure out what is going on with his connection.

Unknown Speaker (7:24): I just don't understand. Like I said, the only thing that I can say is that's a testament to fiber optic.

Speaker 0 (7:36): Hey, peace. Peace. This is gonna be a cluster fuck of a show, man. I can just tell.

Speaker 1 (7:49): Makes people laugh. Yeah. Oh, look at them having problems. Right? See, they have problems too.

Unknown Speaker (7:53): We do have problems Just like the rest of us.

Speaker 0 (7:55): Problems too. So Well, I'm here briefly. So we got some cool people coming up on the show. Cool people coming up. Don Warnock is coming on Tuesday.

Speaker 0 (8:04): Good old d w. We love Don. Don's way cool. Hi, Don. And then Sean Martin, the second episode is coming on.

Unknown Speaker (8:12): We love Sean.

Speaker 0 (8:15): Then we have Philip. Some guy named Philip. I can't read his last name. Coming on the twenty first. Now my my handwriting oh, is that who's the fuck is that?

Speaker 0 (8:27): My handwriting sucks, man. Nico. Nico Ferro. I think I'll have to say that that Necco Ferro. He's one of Beverly Brock's.

Speaker 0 (8:32): Yeah. He's one of Beverly Brock's dudes. He's coming on me in the month. And so Jeff He's gonna

Speaker 1 (8:37): be a good story too after reading his bio. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (8:39): So Jeff Norman, the the the dad joke guy was rescheduled from the third to twenty fourth. He just sent me a message saying that, You look at a Sunday? No, dude. You can't do a Sunday. So I'm probably gonna we're just gonna cross him off the list and you know?

Speaker 0 (8:54): Sorry. Not sorry. He was he'd be funny as hell, but he's just he just keeps you know? So we need we need to get another guest for twenty fourth, and I'm working on May right now. I haven't been very diligent in booking May.

Speaker 0 (9:03): I'm sorry. I got I got my emails out, but I don't have May's a blank canvas right now. It's a blank canvas. Nobody wants to come on

Unknown Speaker (9:13): the show. Well, we just had

Unknown Speaker (9:14): some we just had

Unknown Speaker (9:15): some people reach out. So Yeah. You should do that. Let's do that. Here.

Unknown Speaker (9:20): Let's go. Let's let's get rid

Unknown Speaker (9:22): of this could be fun to do. Let's see if I can make this happen. Cap'n. Make it happen, Cap'n.

Speaker 1 (9:28): Well, and the other cool thing is in the last ten days, somehow we picked up almost 30 more countries. 30 more countries. You know why? I haven't even. Oh.

Speaker 1 (9:38): Told you what the last one or the last count was. I think it was 63.

Speaker 0 (9:46): So Sandy Martin just

Speaker 1 (9:48): That's not counting our website. Yeah. 63. Cool. And another interesting fact is forever Austria was our second most listened to country.

Speaker 1 (10:00): Right? They they flip flopped with Canada every now and then. Now Vietnam holds almost 5%. They just shot up to somebody in Vietnam really likes the show. So shout out to Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (10:13): You're now number two Wow. In the world listening to the Chris and Mike show. That's a fact. Austria is three. Step up

Speaker 0 (10:19): your game. Yeah. So so Sandy Martin just chimed back. Okay. So I'm gonna I'm chiming back to her to see if if she is Sean Martin or not.

Unknown Speaker (10:35): Because that would be weird to have two Martins on the same day.

Speaker 1 (10:42): And sometimes dudes are named Sandy,

Speaker 0 (10:44): as we know. Well, the picture is a Jew is a chick.

Speaker 1 (10:48): Oh. It's a total chick. The plot thickens. Yeah. Are you sure it's

Speaker 0 (10:52): not him with the I don't know, dude. It looks like a chick, man. I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can do is kinda cool. This is kinda like, you know, going there. Okay.

Speaker 0 (11:00): So so this is an email. Can you see this? This is from Marion Barashina. So Okay. This is somebody who wants to come on the show, Deborah Yeager, who, is a cofounder of Yeager training and an NLP master trainer.

Speaker 0 (11:21): The cool thing about NLP, it has something to do with language and how you what kind of language I I looked into it It's it's how to use words. I don't wanna say manipulate, but it's how to use words to to to just weave your way through conversations to to kinda, you know, get people like like, okay. Jim Jones, really good at NLP. Right? Sociopaths.

Speaker 0 (11:46): Sure. People like that. Never agreed with his policies, but Obama was a great freaking speaker, could captivate a crowd, so was Clinton. So they they had that kind of that NLP type stuff. Good at

Speaker 1 (12:00): getting people to do what he was by not making them angry and using effective language. Right. Right.

Speaker 0 (12:07): -MICHAEL: So so this person was wanting to come on the show, which which is kinda cool.

Unknown Speaker (12:13): That would be an awesome Right? Right?

Speaker 0 (12:14): That'd be an awesome conversation. For sure. Is reply. Let's let's go ahead and get her scheduled for May. There you go, folks.

Unknown Speaker (12:24): This is how it's done.

Unknown Speaker (12:26): This is

Speaker 1 (12:26): how guests are booked on the podcast. This is a live representation of what Chris does. Right? Behind the scenes every week.

Unknown Speaker (12:37): Right. Right. That that is cool. Yeah. It is kinda cool.

Speaker 1 (12:41): This is literally how it's done. Hey, sure. We would love to

Speaker 0 (12:44): have you on. Right. And it's nice that they reach out to us.

Speaker 1 (12:50): Yeah. That's been great. We've had some really cool people reaching out lately and we appreciate that. And whatever rabbit hole we fell into that all these countries found us, welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (13:02): Couple days as we do have emails out. So, basically, you know, we just say that, you know, we this is when we do it. This is this is when we record. Come back and give me some days, and we'll get you dialed in. Now now the other cool thing.

Speaker 1 (13:21): And it's adorable that he includes me in the email, ladies and gentlemen, but most of the time you're talking

Unknown Speaker (13:26): to him.

Unknown Speaker (13:27): But I do appreciate

Speaker 0 (13:27): being included. Yeah. You are mostly talking to me. You know? Mostly talking to me.

Unknown Speaker (13:34): Where's that's the musician's emails. Oh, Dave New I got Dave where do you

Speaker 1 (13:39): get Dave Newdel back, man? Oh, yeah. I was just thinking about that last week. Yeah. I'd love to talk to him again because he's he just made a move to Boise, if I remember right.

Speaker 1 (13:49): Okay. And his yeah. Because I think his career seems to be on an upward trend. So congratulations on that. He's got some good gigs lined up.

Unknown Speaker (13:56): It's because of us. A 100%. 100%.

Speaker 1 (14:05): I think he would let us take full credit. He's just that kind

Speaker 0 (14:07): of guy. Well, the Lord of the Devil, man. Once once we found that song, that was it, man. That was it. It's like it's time to

Speaker 1 (14:14): I'm not denying that he's out there doing the work either.

Unknown Speaker (14:17): No, absolutely not. He's

Unknown Speaker (14:18): definitely He's putting holding up his end of the bargain.

Speaker 0 (14:19): He's out there kicking For sure. So this is kind of cool too. So if you'll see if you're seeing this, boys and girls, I copy and paste to save time. So this is reaching out to somebody to come on the show. We have two emails we send out.

Speaker 0 (14:35): One's regular guest and one is a musical guest. So this is a regular guest. It's like, join. Oh, that's what I I forgot to copy this piece. Whoops.

Unknown Speaker (14:50): Nope. Don't do that. Did I just do that? I did not do that. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (14:55): Come on. I'll spell today, man. Now what the hell was this?

Speaker 1 (15:02): His typing brain is not working.

Speaker 0 (15:04): The hell was this guy's name? This is Dean. Hello, Dean. This came from Beverly Brock. Nice.

Speaker 0 (15:10): So Thank you, Beverly. So Shout out. Sending. And then this is gonna be Travis. Travis, come on now.

Speaker 0 (15:22): Chris. The Christian Christian makes you this is such boring podcasting right now. People are like, what the fuck are you doing, man? This is not what I wanna see. You have no idea.

Speaker 0 (15:35): Really? Someone with that

Speaker 1 (15:36): This is our no. This is our human interest. This is how the podcast works. Is what happens behind the This is true. The part you're listening to now is the fun part for Chris and I too.

Speaker 1 (15:47): All the stuff he's doing right now is just like me sitting down after we're done here and doing the editing. Yeah. There's nothing fun about it because it's very repetitive. It's very mundane. It's kinda like working on an assembly line in a factory.

Speaker 1 (16:02): You know? You're doing the same thing all the time. So obviously, doing the show is the fun part. Now what you're seeing is what he does the rest of the week to make sure that we have enough shows to keep doing this, what, eight times a month. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17): So, no, I don't think it's boring at all. And if it is, I guess you just skip this episode. There's a few episodes of many podcasts that I've skipped because that's not my jam. I listen to the rest of them, you know?

Unknown Speaker (16:29): Yep. So all of Beverly's people have been invited. So then you can see that boys.

Unknown Speaker (16:34): And this I

Speaker 0 (16:34): put them into a their separate folder. So I have an entire folder for Beverly Brock.

Speaker 1 (16:38): And that's another cool thing that people wouldn't think about is we met Beverly. She was for whatever reason, you know, the stars didn't align for a while. She finally came on the show. She had a great time, and now we've, you know, garnered at least three or four different guests that she feels comfortable sending to You know? That part of it to me is so cool.

Speaker 1 (17:02): Meeting people that found us interesting and said, hey, you know, I had a great time here. You should go talk to him as well.

Unknown Speaker (17:09): Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:15): I had hoped that would happen, but, you know, you never know.

Unknown Speaker (17:17): You don't. You you never know, man. Life and the fasting. Gonna make you lose your mind. And the fasting me that

Unknown Speaker (17:30): footer that

Speaker 0 (17:31): you use. I like Yeah. It's out of it's it's animated. See it? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:36): I like that. Thank you. So Christian makes you

Speaker 1 (17:41): I'll start using that on my LinkedIn communications. Your Gmail's all cheery. Everything on my computer's blight.

Speaker 0 (17:54): I don't remember who this this Linden person was. Who is this Linden person?

Speaker 1 (18:00): And not because I'm unhappy. Just easy on the eyes.

Speaker 0 (18:03): Oh, we want they wanna get Jay on the show. That's right. This Linden guy's looking well, since this is weird, so some Linden gases he's talking about a guy named Jay and assigned Don Gases. So who knows who that is, but let's get you on the show. I just said, let's get you on the show.

Speaker 1 (18:16): Jay slash Don. Oh, that's a good idea. Jay Don Gasses

Unknown Speaker (18:25): and That's how I handle situations like Jay sapo. What the fuck? What the hell do you what is that now? Sapo vits. Sapo vits.

Unknown Speaker (18:39): Sapo vits.

Speaker 1 (18:42): I think that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 0 (18:44): Something. So then we have general emails and then you have musician emails and then you have show guest because I don't know exactly what this person is. They'll be

Speaker 1 (18:55): a show guest. So nice I kinda do that with my folders as well. I have the

Unknown Speaker (18:59): same kind

Unknown Speaker (18:59): of set up.

Speaker 0 (19:00): I can do this and I can move Sandy. Because see, there's not a Sandy Martin. That's what I'm waiting for to respond. Are you Sandy or are you Sean? Because see that doesn't look like a Sean.

Unknown Speaker (19:10): Does not look like a Sean. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (19:11): That's too small for me to see from here. I I'm gonna take your word

Speaker 0 (19:14): for did send this. Deborah Yeager. So let's create a Deborah Yeager. Some of these people I think I should call sometimes, but they reach out via email. So I just feel this is how I should respond because they're responding the way show guest show guest show guest.

Unknown Speaker (19:37): Where is it? Show guest. We've got a lot of guests, man. Lots and

Speaker 1 (19:43): lots I was just looking back because we have a nice, numbering system on the actual studio that we use. So I went back to number one and just kinda started looking at all the different people that we've had starting at about what episode 50, maybe we had regular guests.

Unknown Speaker (20:00): Right.

Speaker 1 (20:02): You're right. We've had a ton of people with a ton of interesting life stories, man.

Speaker 0 (20:08): Yeah. Phillips on the twenty first. That's who this is. I'm like, who? Philip.

Speaker 0 (20:14): What's Philip do? Philip, Philip Nachov. He he's he he watched the Chad Valier show talk about the unique chemistry of bands, tricky business of swapping drummers, etcetera. So he's he's Deborah's artist created a wild recruiter. So is it Philip?

Speaker 0 (20:37): Is it Philip? Is Deborah? Oh, no. So so what the hell? You know?

Speaker 0 (20:42): So it's so so it's Deborah, but it's through Philip. So that's what kinda that's what throws me for a loop when people come on and it's they message us and then and then it's somebody else. They're they're sending messages for, which is cool.

Unknown Speaker (20:58): So They're represented by their partner.

Speaker 0 (21:00): They're represented by somebody else. So it's like, is do I have Deborah in here? Yeah. Is that Deborah Yeager or is that different Deborah? Let's see.

Speaker 0 (21:07): Because I thought we had a the Deborah Yeager was Deborah. This is Deborah Masterson. Deborah Masterson for freedom quest, a love story. Deborah Masterson. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (21:19): Freedom Quest: A Love Story. Great new. Great new Deborah Masterson.

Speaker 1 (21:27): Let's see how he morphs into Dave.

Unknown Speaker (21:29): Molts into Dave. Show guest. So I

Unknown Speaker (21:33): worked for he's doing work. He morphs into Dave.

Speaker 0 (21:35): That's great. I worked for a friend of mine. When the when the market crashed, right? Brian, we fix like the pools.

Unknown Speaker (21:42): Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 0 (21:43): I don't think I probably shouldn't tell the story. I was just thinking about it. I'll tell you a story off air.

Unknown Speaker (21:48): Yeah. Don't tell on air stories that you shouldn't tell.

Speaker 0 (21:51): I'll be right back. Control the control the masses.

Speaker 1 (21:54): I'm only at 33% anyway. Okay. You're listening. So I'm gonna read this and I'm gonna ask. I'll ask your opinion when you come back.

Speaker 1 (22:01): This is something that I saved last night because when we started this podcast, it's funny that he brings up guests because we didn't have guests when we started. It was just him and I, and that's kinda how we thought it was gonna go forever. And I think the second or third show we had a debate who was better in Van Halen, Dave or Sammy. And everybody's got their opinions. I liked both, but this headline caught my eye.

Speaker 1 (22:27): It was from Ted Templeman, was one of Van Halen's producers in the early days and responsible for the sound that we all know and love. And his quote was, Dave was so brilliant, it would have never happened without Dave. And in the book, he goes on to say, because I've read this book, that as talented as Eddie was, and I've said this a million times, I would have never made it with Nemesis without Chris as my front man. People don't latch onto guitar players as the main guy in the band. They're always a second to everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:04): That's just a fact. If you're a good band and you're writing good songs, people are gonna latch onto the singer because that's what they recognize. They learn the words, every one of them. They know how the melody goes. They sing it back to them.

Speaker 1 (23:17): So I think that he's a 100% right, but that garnered about five eighty two comments of people arguing both ways, you know, that Eddie would have made it without him at that level and that Dave would have made it without Eddie. That's also an argument that, you know, Dave had a stellar solo career, but you can argue the other way that Sammy did as well. You know? Sammy was an established solo artist after he left Montrose. He didn't need Van Halen to be successful.

Speaker 1 (23:48): He would've lived the rest of his life a millionaire just on the singles that he had as a solo artist. So I do agree with his statement, though, that Dave was so brilliant as a front man that they wouldn't have made it without him. Not at that level. You know? They would have been a good band, and they might have toured the country.

Speaker 1 (24:11): They might have even toured the world, but would they have been a hall of fame legendary people never forget the name Van Halen without David Lee Roth? I don't think so. So we'll get Chris' opinion because he's been listening. Because he's like that. You know, he likes to be nosy and act like he's part of the show.

Speaker 1 (24:44): Make sure everybody goes to the Chris and Mike show. Actually, it's not the, and Chris keeps saying that too, I need to correct him, and I need to correct myself. The website is actually chrisandmikeshow dot com. It's not the chrisandmikeshow.com. I make that mistake as well.

Speaker 1 (25:04): Yeah. I just checked. It's just chrisandmikeshow.com.

Speaker 0 (25:08): So I think that you're right. I don't think Eddie Ben Halen would have been the guitar he already is without David Lee Roth because you need the front man's the hook. And you could probably pull up tons of examples because of your innate knowledge of of amazing guitar players

Speaker 1 (25:25): that I used myself as an example. I, we would not have been who we are, and you're not you're gonna say that if it's required in a conversation. Right. Like, do you think your band would have made it without you? Right.

Speaker 1 (25:38): No. But I'm gonna say it for you again and again. You were what I was looking for when I was putting that band together with Scott. Right. You just said it.

Speaker 1 (25:51): People have to have something to latch onto. Exactly.

Speaker 0 (25:58): I just I mean, And as great as Eddie Van Halen was and I don't and and back to what you said too, Sammy would not have had the success he had after Montrose without joining Van Halen. Sammy was Sammy, but he was never gonna be a household name like he is now. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (26:17): I actually argued it the other way. I know you did. That he'd

Unknown Speaker (26:21): I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker (26:21): That he didn't need Van Halen.

Speaker 0 (26:23): Right. But I don't but he wouldn't be a household name without Van Halen. I don't think he was a household name. The only thing I knew about Sammy Hagar was Freelock Box. I didn't know Montrose.

Speaker 0 (26:33): I all I heard all I knew was Freelock Box, then he joined Van Halen because him and Eddie had the same mechanic. Right.

Speaker 1 (26:43): Yeah, you're probably right. At the level that he's at now, he might not have attained that level of household name. Everybody knows who Sammy Hagar is now.

Speaker 0 (26:53): Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm responding to I've been responding to an email.

Speaker 1 (27:06): I just thought that was funny when I read that because that's coming from a guy who is directly responsible for their early sound. Ted Templeman was the actual producer, and he's the one making that comment. Know? It's in his opinion, what he heard coming through the speakers when Dave was singing was so brilliant that, you know, instantly he knew Van Halen was gonna be what they became. Right.

Speaker 1 (27:34): You could hear it in his people still sing all those little screeches and screams. They're not words, you know? Yeah. But we all know them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:41): They fit perfectly in time with the melody of what Eddie's playing on the guitar in the background. He's just filling in the space. You used to do that a lot too. There's a little space there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:51): I'm gonna stick just a sound that's in key. It's not really a word. It just Hatfield said his kids make fun of him because he chose to say yeah a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (28:02): Yeah. Whatever he does. Yeah. He he does that a lot. Mama.

Speaker 0 (28:07): Yo mama. Okay. So Travis came back, and he said, I can do Tuesday. Okay. Which Tuesday?

Speaker 0 (28:15): Which Tuesday in May? Like, like, you gotta you gotta pick a day. Now when you respond to my emails, people, it's really helpful if you tell me which Tuesday. Which Tuesday works for you?

Speaker 1 (28:27): Pick an actual day. And and if we were psychics, we wouldn't be doing this.

Speaker 0 (28:32): Oh, so Sandy Martin is not related to Sean Martin. They are two different people.

Unknown Speaker (28:38): So, okay, so the mystery has been solved,

Speaker 0 (28:41): but now we need to see if, if, if one of these people can move to the twenty fourth because I have, I had Sean Martin written down because she must have never confirmed with me originally. So the twenty fourth was empty on my calendar. This is why we need an intern or a producer, people. Just come work for us for free.

Speaker 1 (29:00): Yes. Ride the wave to the top together. We'll pay you handsomely when we get paid handsomely.

Unknown Speaker (29:13): He asked me for the code. Hang on.

Speaker 1 (29:20): And if there's any stellar editors out there that like to work for free, I'll gladly let you do that too. Yeah. Provided you go through the Mike Michaels crash course one zero one of editing. Right. I'm a stickler for how it looks and sounds.

Speaker 1 (29:43): What about Jensen Buck? He said he was coming back on too, I can have an episode that's not sideways, speaking of things that bother me. That one, the content was just too good. And like I, you know, have said three times already, I reached out to him and everybody was on board. It just still bothers me.

Unknown Speaker (30:02): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:06): Because if you haven't heard that story, we obviously didn't do that on purpose if you watched that episode. We did not do that on purpose. It was a glitch in the matrix.

Unknown Speaker (30:22): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:25): I started uploading the actual podcast in four k too. So I looked at it last night. It looks really good. Obviously only if you have

Speaker 0 (30:44): a four ks television. Right. Right. Because you gotta have four ks telev I would be interested to see some four ks.

Unknown Speaker (30:50): Do you have a four ks television? I don't. Oh.

Speaker 0 (31:02): Okay. So that problem solved

Speaker 1 (31:03): I could all be wrong, but I think that actually makes the HD version look

Speaker 0 (31:08): better too. I think it's like I've seen them and it's really, really weird. Because it makes you feel like you're there and it's almost like it's not lifelike. I mean, I know it's insanely lifelike, but for some reason it doesn't, it doesn't feel lifelike. I don't know how to explain it.

Unknown Speaker (31:23): It's just it's it's it's bizarre, man. It's kind of a mess with your head type thing. There's a

Speaker 1 (31:28): there's a function on the LG TV I have that it comes equipped with that freaked me out. Yeah. And it's called true motion. Okay. And it's kind of what you're describing.

Speaker 1 (31:40): It almost looks like, and you know, I've been behind the scenes on it, but you've actually been in an acting role where, you know, when you're there and then when you watch it on TV, you have a vision in your head that's different from people who have never seen it, right? You know what's going on behind the scenes where the cameras are moving and whether it's a single or multi camera. That true motion actually makes you feel like you're in the It's middle of the so real. I had to turn it off. It it drove me nuts.

Speaker 1 (32:11): It's too lifelike.

Speaker 0 (32:13): Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's just a little bizarre. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:16): I didn't like it. I think four k is just very crisp. It is crisp, but it's

Speaker 0 (32:24): just it's it's bizarre. It's it's a it's a definitely bizarre thing. It's just it's a little I just it doesn't sit well with me, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

Unknown Speaker (32:34): You're not supposed to be able to see the blades of grass.

Unknown Speaker (32:36): No. You're not. You're not.

Unknown Speaker (32:41): Hey. Look. Lamar Jackson has a new pimple. Right?

Unknown Speaker (32:48): Yeah. So this guy is telling me that he he he told me he responded to an email. Oh, and I don't see it. Like, I don't know what tell you, dude. I don't see the I don't see the response.

Unknown Speaker (33:03): And you never heard back from Matt? No. That's nuts.

Speaker 0 (33:12): Yeah. Nothing. He sent it well, he again, he sent it to me 09:00, but I at the shows at at 10:30 or 09:30, and it was clearly I clearly told him. Everybody knows. It's just, you know, but yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (33:26): See, there we go.

Unknown Speaker (33:27): It's actually like ten.

Unknown Speaker (33:28): There you go, Travis. Like Travis Teen Magazine, how about May 5? Yes. I need a date, dude. I need a date.

Speaker 0 (33:32): You can't just say, how about Tuesday? Tuesday. How about Tuesday? May 5. May 5.

Unknown Speaker (33:37): Travis. I'll gladly pay you for a hamburger on Tuesday. So

Speaker 0 (33:45): we're gonna tell Travis, done. Done. You oh, come on. Why does it do that? And you will link at 03:50PM, day of show.

Speaker 0 (33:57): MST time. See, look at that,

Speaker 1 (33:59): ladies and gentlemen. He was just throwing himself under the bus for being not diligent about booking into May. And right here live on the podcast, he booked his first show in May. So of all times to give yourself a round of applause,

Unknown Speaker (34:13): you probably should do that. Right.

Speaker 1 (34:18): Going back to the early days of the podcast. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (34:23): Absolutely early days of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:34): So thinking back on those days, did you ever envision that 63 countries would have found this nonsense?

Unknown Speaker (34:40): No. I don't. I don't at all.

Speaker 1 (34:42): And I say that he knows I say that in the most affectionate way possible. This is not nonsense. I just I'm self deprecating in the nicest way possible.

Unknown Speaker (34:51): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (34:54): Because I think when you're in the middle of it, there is a little bit of your brain that says, why would anybody care?

Speaker 0 (34:59): Right.

Speaker 1 (34:59): Right? But I've listened to, what, 1,300 episodes of the Rogan podcast because I find it interesting, and I've learned a lot from it from, you know, the scientists and the doctors that he's had on there, and I've learned a lot from the crazy comedians and MMA fighters he's had on there. Some of those people are way smarter than you give them credit for. So I think that's the appeal, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:23): Is just the different stories that people have to hear. To look at Beverly, would you have thought that she started 17 at 17 years old by literally buying a rock band, all the equipment, the songs, you know, and made it her vision. Yeah. She said, I knew better than what they were doing. They had a they had a good start, but I could see where it could be better.

Speaker 1 (35:45): Right? I love those people.

Speaker 0 (35:47): Yeah. And she was, she was definitely a cool human to talk to. And the fact that we're going to possibly have five guests from that initial conversation. Cause again, it's kind of neat that when people come on the show and then once we wrap up the show, then we're off air. The accolades they shower us with shows that we're not just, you know, time fillers.

Speaker 0 (36:09): Like they truly, they truly enjoy being on the show. They truly enjoy having conversations with it and they always kind of freak out freak out a little bit when they ask me prior to show. Well, what do I what do I have a list of questions? No, you don't. What do you mean?

Speaker 0 (36:22): What are you talking about? What do you do? And they ask the question like that's what we're talking about. Well, how does that work? And I'm gonna

Speaker 1 (36:29): And I almost wish we could have some of that b roll as filler because Chris is not bullshitting you when more times than we can count, the first thing we hear out of their mouth when we get done is, Oh my God, I've done like a 100 of these, or I've done a thousand of these, and this was the most fun I've And ever the reason being is what he just described, because their nervousness is set at ease right away by the first question. Give me the elevator pitch of, you know, we're riding up to the 30th Floor. Tell me who you are and what do you do? The conversation starts from there, and you notice we never use the word interview. People say that about us, and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (37:05): That interview was great. We're not gonna bash them for using the word interview, literally, what those people don't know is subconsciously, right then, they're having a conversation with us. Yep. And those are the things that you and I enjoyed about being in the band, right? Playing the music was the most fun.

Speaker 1 (37:21): Sure. The second most fun was having intelligent conversations about life or comedic conversations about serious subjects, you know, just to lighten the mood. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (37:32): That was that was the thing that I got. I got you I get I would get yelled at when I had Real Talk USA. On iHeart. People, people, wanted me to interview Steve Gianini, the guy behind the show, producer, the local producer. He's like, you know, you can't, you can't be a social what was it?

Speaker 0 (37:50): You can't be, so when I, I gotta go, what the, I can't remember that. I can't, for the life of me, I'm drawing a blank. So like when I was, when I was working for the newspaper, I was a sports editor, but I liked, I what the fu- I cannot think of the word right now. I don't know. It's the social part of it.

Speaker 0 (38:12): Don't it's gonna dawn on me like three days from now. So when I was on the radio, are you talking about

Unknown Speaker (38:18): like an op ed deal where you can't have an opinion?

Speaker 0 (38:21): Not not that. It was it was more of I've okay. So like I but the songs I write were stories. Right? Like liquid liquid liquid 100%.

Speaker 0 (38:32): Right. Listen to your sense of story. Right? It's it's it's a complete it's a complete Freeman's a story. Right.

Speaker 0 (38:37): They're all stories. So when I would write it for the newspaper, when there were stories, it it they were short stories and then it It wasn't just an interview. So when I got on the radio with iHeart, they, you know, they had, I had five segments, which was unheard of because, you know, I laid it out from the word go, like, not gonna be this arrogant person. If my head doesn't fit through the door, you're more than welcome to beat my ass. I was like, I'm this tiny little pond in this giant tiny little fish in this giant pond.

Speaker 0 (39:07): I am in no way, you know, gonna have an ego about this because like, I'm gonna be on the radio. IHeart radio. You kidding me worldwide? So that right there was like, I went the respect for not knowing me went just over the top because they both looked at each other. It was the station director and Steve Genie, and they just kind of, they had this look like, wow, we've never heard.

Speaker 0 (39:30): And I never did. I never, I never acted like I was a star. I never acted like my shit didn't stink because I'm on the radio. I was straight up humble the entire time I was doing it. But because of that, because that's who I am, then they gave me things like I had five segments.

Speaker 0 (39:47): Nobody has five segments in an hour, which basically means I have five sets of commercial breaks that each commercial break had three commercials in it. So the sponsors of my show had a spot basically two or three times through the show. And then we'd come out of break. I'd be like, Hey, you're coming to, we're back live in the, you know, We Fix Eggly Pools studio or whatever the, you know, the Great American Title studio, whatever it was in that coming out of that segment, the commercial break. But I didn't want an interview.

Speaker 0 (40:15): I just the interviews were boring. Hey, Mike, how are you today? I'm good. So you play guitar. What kind of, how do you play?

Speaker 0 (40:21): I play, I play a fender Stratocaster. Great. What color is it? Well, it's purple with inlay butterflies, whatever the fuck. I didn't, the first couple shows, I just, I didn't like it.

Speaker 0 (40:30): I didn't, there was no flow to it. And even Margie, my, who was my real estate assistant, but then she was the, the, I always called her the Robin Quavers to my Howard Stern because she made the show that much more dynamic because she was fun and bubbly and had this amazing outgoing personality. She's like me, extrovert. You put two extroverts in a room. We just we knew each other for so long from the real estate world.

Speaker 0 (40:51): It fed off. We fed off each other extremely well on radio. So it really just became a conversation. So then Steve would give me shit, man. You gotta be more interview.

Speaker 0 (41:01): You, you know, get down. Like, well, I don't like doing interviews, man. They're boring. It's like, you know, I would never do numbers, which was a, you know, dead air on radio, especially when a real estate centric show. And that's the thing was real estate centric.

Speaker 0 (41:13): So they couldn't understand how I could have conversations with guests. Well, my guests were lenders, title reps, home inspectors, AC guys, termite guys, anything that kind of tied with the real estate world. Those were my guests like ten thirty one exchange guys. Well, you're doing

Speaker 1 (41:28): it now with your other. Right. It's the same guy. Listened to a few of those where you're, it's basically the same kind of conversation. You're not really.

Speaker 1 (41:36): Yeah. It's not a dry. Here's how real estate works. Today we are going to talk about nobody wants to hear that. Well, no, there's people out there, but that population is so small now that wants to hear the NPR version.

Speaker 0 (41:50): Yeah. And I just didn't, you know, I never got into that. And so I like that. And the people that were on the show, some of them, it probably the only time they came into an iHeart studio, into an iHeart building, let alone, you know, and then Mark Jeffrey, who we had on the show, he would, he would, he would find me during my pregame tour. He'd, he'd latch on to me and he'd, he'd take over, take him to the traffic center and show them all that.

Speaker 0 (42:13): These are things that normally everyday people never see behind the scenes of. So it was, it was a cool little dynamic I had where they were coming on my show, which was all about them. And I always had two or three guests to fill the different segments. Then by the, by the fourth and fifth segment, it's just this, this giant cool conversation going on with everybody involved. I thought it was fantastic.

Speaker 0 (42:34): Well, you know, and I agree with you there with, that's why

Speaker 1 (42:37): I never started this by myself. Right. Because just that little spot that I filled for you.

Unknown Speaker (42:41): I heard the whole thing. You realize

Speaker 1 (42:44): well, you realize real quick, and you've told me the same thing. Even though you're capable of doing it, and I'm sure I'm capable of doing it. You are now, for sure. It works so much better when you're bound and that was my whole vision to begin with of calling you up and asking you because I knew that we had great conversations to begin with. Right?

Speaker 1 (43:04): And instantly when you're trying to do it by yourself, you realize, yeah, I could get through this, but man, it's so much easier when he either knows what I'm trying to get across or I know what you're trying to get across, or you're just bouncing that same idea 180 degrees the other direction. Like you say, last week you blew me away when you were like, man, I don't really care for Ted News. Really? We've never talked about that. Right.

Speaker 1 (43:29): I just assumed you liked the guy because I covered the song and you're like, yeah, I liked the song because you gave me a break. That was really the extent

Unknown Speaker (43:36): of Well, like some of his non music stuff, except when he started getting political. I like that he's a hunter. I like that he's a non

Speaker 1 (43:44): And I actually have come to appreciate Ted even more in that direction as far as the things I don't think he's so far out there as people think. I don't either. Listened to him for three hours on Rogan, and that's where I garnered a different approach because Joe got him to not turn his stance on like marijuana, but he got him to listen. Yeah. You know, Ted was vehemently against marijuana and Joe's like, why?

Speaker 1 (44:12): Yeah. And as they started talking about it and Joe kept making logical points, Ted's like, okay, well,

Speaker 0 (44:18): I can't argue And that. The cool the one cool thing about Ted drug and alcohol free his

Unknown Speaker (44:23): entire existence. His entire career.

Unknown Speaker (44:26): So the only other

Speaker 1 (44:27): He watched his father drink himself to death and he swore he was never gonna do that. So yeah, he walked the walk his entire life.

Speaker 0 (44:33): Yeah. And the only other person I know is Gene Simmons.

Speaker 1 (44:37): Yep. He's another one for the same reason.

Speaker 0 (44:40): Right. That's it. And that alone in that industry?

Speaker 1 (44:44): And to have like the crazy personas of, you know, Gene was always revered by the fans for breathing fire and spitting blood, and Ted was revered for what you just said of being a man's man, a hunter, and driving cool trucks and shooting buffalo on stage and swinging across in a loincloth. You thought the guy and Ted talked about that on Rogan's podcast. I know everybody thought I was high on drugs and crazy, but I wasn't. No.

Speaker 0 (45:12): No. And that's the cool thing. That's that's what I liked about him. The the off off the stage, the unapologetic, this is who I am. I'm gonna rip it off like Right.

Speaker 0 (45:23): Love me or hate me, like, it's just that's that thing you have you have those people like Nikki's always says, you either love me or hate me. There's no gray area with me. It's either people that love Chris or people that just oh, I can't stand him.

Speaker 1 (45:34): Well, that is a great way to describe him because I actually just got in a debate with a person who said, you know, that he wasn't one of the best guitar players, and I said, yes and no. And here's why. Because if you put Ted in a room, even with Slash and Joe Perry and some of the greatest guitar players you can name, that motherfucker's gonna hold his own. Yeah. He's not scared to go in there and play where I would be a nervous wreck.

Speaker 1 (45:59): Right? Oh my god. Slash is here. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. Joe Perry's over here.

Speaker 1 (46:04): What am I going to do? Right? Yeah. Ted doesn't have that what am I going to do thought ever in He's his like, I'm Ted fucking Nugent. That's who

Unknown Speaker (46:11): I am. Yep. No. Agree with that. 100%.

Speaker 0 (46:13): Now, you mean I saw

Unknown Speaker (46:14): go ahead. Go ahead. No. I saw the man staying on a stage with Jack Blades and Tommy Shaw and being Ted Newtgen.

Speaker 0 (46:20): I love Damn Yankees. That was a great band. Me too. That was a great band. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:24): Now you mentioned Slash. Would Slash be Slash if it was not for Axl Rose? No. Exactly. Slash would admit that.

Speaker 1 (46:33): Slash would not be Slash without any of those original members of Guns N' Roses. Actually, Slash would go as far as to tell you, and I guarantee he would say this, I would not be me without Izzy Strattlin. Yeah. Because he wrote a lot of those key hooks that Slash played his little leads around, you know? And he Diddy says I call them

Speaker 0 (46:55): licks. We had Neanderthal on, Paul Marshall, he even referenced that, that the personalities in Guns N' Roses made Guns N' Roses who they were. And without the collective personalities, it wouldn't have worked. Did they wouldn't

Speaker 1 (47:12): were the most dangerous band in rock and roll. That wasn't just a PR. You know? They really were the most dangerous band in rock and roll. You never knew what condition they were going to be in.

Speaker 1 (47:23): Nope. What they were going to save, what they were going to do, how long they were going to play. When they were going to play. Is us.

Unknown Speaker (47:30): When they were going play.

Speaker 1 (47:31): When they were going to play. Take it or leave it. You know? There was a time when Axel was so far out of his fucking head that he was consulting a psychic as to what time the showtime should be.

Unknown Speaker (47:40): Oh, I

Speaker 1 (47:40): didn't know that. Yeah. Wow. Another tidbit I got off Rogan.

Speaker 0 (47:45): I remember I remember there was something on MTV when they first when they first kind of made it huge that it was one of those behind the music. I wasn't it wasn't behind the music. It was just some some funny interview that they were talking to Slash and said his kitchen was starting to smell. He couldn't understand why. And so he called Axel and he's like, you know, my my kitchen's and every time I open my refrigerator door, it just stinks.

Speaker 0 (48:06): Said, but it's clean. He's like, well, there's a pan underneath the refrigerator. Slash was like, what? There's a pan? Axel's like, yeah, you gotta clean the pan out, man.

Speaker 0 (48:16): Like they never owned a fridge. They never stayed anywhere long enough. Back in the day, there's pans under the fridge. I don't think they have anymore. But it was one of those things that that was that was kind of a cool little thing I remembered from years and years ago.

Speaker 0 (48:30): Just that was how they knew they made it. They had their own refrigerators with a pan. That's hilarious. It was stanky because they didn't clean it because nobody told them to clean it.

Speaker 1 (48:41): Mold growing under there. I remember those pans.

Speaker 0 (48:43): Right. Because who would who would have thought, hey, there's a pan under the fridge. You gotta clean that shit or it's gonna start stinking. You know? Because I really there's no pans anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:54): I don't think no. They're all what do they call them? Self defrosting.

Unknown Speaker (48:57): Yeah. Self defrosting. I'm

Speaker 1 (49:01): not quite sure how that process works. I hear my refrigerator doing it all the time though.

Speaker 0 (49:06): Yeah. Sean Martin, Sean Martin, Sean Martin. I gotta find Sean Martin's email.

Speaker 1 (49:12): I can't wait to hear the rest of that dude's stories.

Unknown Speaker (49:17): Is it Sean? No. It's not Sean Watson. Sean Martin.

Unknown Speaker (49:24): Now he's picking

Unknown Speaker (49:25): people up. No. Here he is. Just where is he? What the fuck is he?

Speaker 0 (49:33): Sean Martin. Oh, this is pod oh, that's why it's a quarantined quarantined. That's why it's hard to find him.

Speaker 1 (49:43): AT and T is really sucking at their blocking spam calls here lately. So up your game. Yeah. I had a rash of

Unknown Speaker (49:54): them. Well, I have a thing for Verizon that blocks them.

Speaker 1 (49:58): Well, I'm supposed to too. It's called active armor, but it's not doing its job here lately. And these people are doing that, number spoofing where they make it look like it's coming from your area code. Oh, okay. Assholes.

Speaker 1 (50:15): Right. And I don't know if this is gonna be something that's gonna sweep the nation, but right now, everybody in our town is getting a fake. We can save you up to 80 percent on your water bill. Oh,

Unknown Speaker (50:28): no, we

Speaker 1 (50:29): don't have that. So for the people out there, the utility companies don't contact you unless there's an emergency. Right. Ever for any reason. Right.

Speaker 1 (50:38): Or if you owe them money, obviously they're gonna contact you. But if you're a good taxpaying American citizen, like people like to believe that they are

Unknown Speaker (50:47): Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (50:48): And you're paying your bills on time, they're never going to contact you for any reason. No. No. So Not at all. Unfortunately, the elderly are the ones that fall victim to a lot of those.

Speaker 1 (51:02): We were talking about that at work the other day, and it's a shame because some of these things look like they're really coming from the businesses. And I went to their website and that's the first thing it said. We do not contact you unless you owe us money. You know, they had a nice way of saying that. That's the only reason we're going to contact you.

Unknown Speaker (51:23): If you owe us money or there's an emergency in your area.

Speaker 0 (51:26): Right. Because otherwise they don't care. Just a peasant. You're just someone that pays them money. So I went back to orange.

Speaker 0 (51:36): We provide you. Go ahead. What? Sorry. I yawned.

Speaker 0 (51:38): I apologize.

Speaker 1 (51:39): We provide you water and power. No, you're fine. So you went back to orange.

Speaker 0 (51:42): Went back to orange store a couple months ago. Started the Queen Creek when that sucks. Trainers are lame. Then I went to South China, which is where I started in 2015. And ironically enough, of the trainers that was there when I started was still there.

Speaker 0 (51:59): I was like, that was cool. There's actually two. That's a good sign. And well, she left. She left last week.

Speaker 0 (52:05): I'm like, what? After you started back? I was there a couple of months and then she left because she got another gig and she can't tell people what it is. Was like She's like, that's it.

Unknown Speaker (52:13): Chris is back. I gotta go. I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker 0 (52:16): So today I went back to Gilbert East, which is where the turmoil existed a couple years back. I was nervous because, you know, I didn't know what they were gonna do, but dude, it was pretty cool. It was I walked in, signed my name, and one of the trainers was like, you're back. And then Marla, the head trainer, the trainer that's for the class, she comes, I walked by her. I was like, what's up Marla?

Speaker 0 (52:40): Just look, what's up. And went in to the rower because I started on the rower and then she comes up like, you're back. All like happy and shit. Three people come off the treadmill walk to me like, is this real? And then when I'm transitioned to the weight room, a couple come up to me like, Where have you been?

Unknown Speaker (52:59): Then as I'm leaving, that's a good feeling. And as I'm leaving, there's like three or four people as I'm going through. It's like, I can't believe you're back. Where have you been? Where are you at?

Speaker 0 (53:05): I was like, you know, that was kind of cool to go back to where I spent so much time and actually have, you know, trainers. The one trainer that we butted heads, I acknowledged her, but that was about it because I've just she was very brutal and harsh. You know? So I, you know, I'm, yeah, gotta let that go, but you know, I'm there to work out. But it was, it was fun to see probably 12 people that I used to sweat with on a daily basis that like, we're really happy that I'm back in the room.

Speaker 0 (53:42): So that was cool, you know? So, you know, it was fun. It was good. It was good workout too. I burned what nine twenty four calories or something crazy like that.

Unknown Speaker (53:57): I beat everybody in calorie burns again. I don't know how I do that, but I did. I did it. I did it. Let's see what it says in my little app.

Speaker 0 (54:09): Nine fifty calories. That? That's what I did today. That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (54:17): Yeah. And that's, that's the perfect pyramid. See how it's kinda like a middle finger. The green is the middle finger.

Unknown Speaker (54:26): I'm with you.

Unknown Speaker (54:27): Yeah. That's yes. Yes. Yeah. It's cool.

Unknown Speaker (54:32): It's fun. It's fun to go back to that spot. And

Unknown Speaker (54:37): So where do you go there after you drop little man off at school?

Speaker 0 (54:39): Yeah. And this one actually starts fifteen minutes earlier. So it'll be an easier. It'll be an easier one to get to and be back because the other one's the other one started at 08:45. So there's that.

Unknown Speaker (54:56): How long does that take to burn 900? What is that now?

Unknown Speaker (54:59): It's fifty, fifty three minutes. That's crazy. It it was-

Unknown Speaker (55:05): It thousand calories in less than

Speaker 0 (55:06): an hour. It was, three, five minute warm up on the, on the rower. And then weight room was nineteen minutes. Four different exercises, back to back sets, and then the second set back to back sets, which is kind of cool. I put up, I put up 70 pounds, single arm, chest press laying on the floor.

Speaker 0 (55:26): So your elbow touches the floor and you go up. I was pushing 70 pounds. So that was kind of cool. And then it was on the treadmill. We did 10 all outs.

Speaker 0 (55:38): So basically it was a thirty second out, thirty second rest, thirty second out, thirty second rest, and forty five then a minute and your, your rests got longer. Actually, no, it was a minute all out. Although all, all 10 all outs were a minute, but the recovery time went from thirty seconds to ninety seconds. So started at 3% incline, six and a half miles an hour ended up at 10 miles an hour with three percent incline. So I was sad about that.

Unknown Speaker (56:05): You know, getting the guns back in shape. Very nice. Any plans for the weekend? I feel like the whole

Speaker 1 (56:15): I was gonna say the whole set looks there.

Unknown Speaker (56:17): Looks good.

Unknown Speaker (56:18): Looks there. Good. Looks good. There. Your bottom half is pretty stout too.

Unknown Speaker (56:26): Yeah. You know, what do you, what you got? You got one of the things you want to share? One of those funny things you want to share before we wrap it all up?

Speaker 1 (56:31): No. No. Was gonna tell you to watch this comedian on Netflix and now I can't find He the was good clean comedy. Oh. Which is hard to find.

Speaker 1 (56:41): Yeah. But I laughed my ass off, man. And I it was about halfway through it. I'm like, this guy's not swearing. Oh.

Speaker 1 (56:47): Which is unusual for me to watch comedy without swearing. I like Jim Gaffney a lot. He's clean.

Unknown Speaker (56:53): We've watched Jim Gaffney.

Speaker 1 (56:54): But it has to be that level. Right. I don't know why it's hard to be funny without using the word fuck. Right. But most of my favorite comedians Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:02): Use that word liberally. Yeah. It was just funny because halfway through it, I'm like, this dude's not swearing at all. And I had to pause it a couple times because my stomach hurt.

Unknown Speaker (57:12): Oh, because you didn't realize it?

Unknown Speaker (57:14): I was laughing so hard. Wow. The fuck was this guy's name? I told you to watch the man in the high castle. You

Speaker 0 (57:25): did. We're we're wrapping up fallout. We're on the fallout season two. So once we get rid of that, we'll go to man in the high castle.

Speaker 1 (57:33): Why you look for the that just keeps getting better.

Speaker 0 (57:35): Yeah. So why you look why you look for that? Just a reminder, boys and girls, if you're feeling sad or depressed or suicidal, you know, go screaming a pillow, go run, go work out, go find somebody to talk to. Even if you go to grocery store, just go grocery store with a cart and start walking through the aisles and just say hi to random people to you can spark a conversation. That will change your mindset.

Speaker 0 (57:54): If it doesn't text 988 because somebody's there standing by to help talk you off that cliff and get you off that ledge and make you feel better about yourself and understand that tomorrow is such a better day with you waking up in it. Suicide is not the option.

Unknown Speaker (58:08): Just follow your just follow your shirt. Yeah. Be kind.

Unknown Speaker (58:11): Yeah. Be kind.

Unknown Speaker (58:12): Just yeah. Or yeah. Or to use that beautiful four letter word,

Unknown Speaker (58:17): shut the fuck up.

Unknown Speaker (58:19): Yeah. Just Follow Mama Kay would never say that. Mama Kay would say, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at

Unknown Speaker (58:26): all. Right.

Speaker 1 (58:26): And I do follow that a lot as a mature adult now. I can just not interact with those people. So if people bother your soul, just don't interact with them. It'll make your soul it'll make your inner peace

Speaker 0 (58:39): I had a lot a conversation yesterday with somebody that they were bitching and complaining about something. And I was like, Is it affecting you?

Unknown Speaker (58:50): No. Thank you.

Speaker 0 (58:51): Then why are dwelling on it? Why are you letting that annoy you? Well, it's it's it doesn't annoy me. I guess it does because if it didn't annoy you, wouldn't be bringing it up to me. It wasn't maybe it was yesterday.

Unknown Speaker (59:03): Here's one

Unknown Speaker (59:03): day this week.

Speaker 1 (59:04): But yeah. Here's one that's weighing heavy on people's minds The right war with Iran. Right? It's horrible. It is.

Speaker 1 (59:10): But can you, as Chris Dunham, individually right now, do anything about Nothing. Nor can I? So should I let it weigh so heavy on my mind that it's affecting my day to And day I guarantee you, there's a large percentage of the American population right now where this is weighing so heavy on their mind that it's affecting their day to day life. Am I happy that gas is almost $5 a gallon? No.

Speaker 1 (59:35): No. But I can't change it tomorrow.

Speaker 0 (59:38): The only people that can legitimately be stressing about the war in Iran are the military families who have Soldiers. Who have military family members And the families. And that's what I'm saying. Yes. The soldiers that are there and their family.

Speaker 0 (59:52): That's it. Sure. Nobody else realistically has any true reason to allow that to affect their day to day life. You just you just No.

Speaker 1 (1:00:02): Because you can be productive in a way that you just described at the end of this You can be positive. You can say hi to somebody as you pass them in the grocery store. That's a great example. I do it all the time. I told you about the old lady I helped that was standing there waiting for somebody to just get something off the shelf and everyone kept walking by her, right?

Unknown Speaker (1:00:21): But I made eye can I I made eye contact with her and said, do you need some help? Right? Yeah. You look like you need some

Unknown Speaker (1:00:28): help. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:00:29): I could use that right there if you don't mind. Yeah. Little things. And then proceeded to tell me everybody just kept walking by.

Speaker 0 (1:00:37): Little things, people. You'd be surprised when I used to coach whenever I coach sport, I coach little things. You do little things and they build up to big things. In football, little things. If we can get two, three yards every play, by the time we get to third down, we have a first down.

Speaker 0 (1:00:51): Little things. If you see the ball catch the ball. Little things.

Speaker 1 (1:00:56): The University of Michigan just won the national basketball championship because there was not one superstar on that team. Yeah. There were nine starters and they all acknowledged that. That's good. Whoever was playing on the court at the time was the star, all five Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:11): Of And that's how they play.

Speaker 0 (1:01:13): And that's how you should. So there you go, boys and girls, little things, be kind and just smile. Until next time. Yeah. I'm Chris.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:20): He's Mike. See you. Peace.