Nov. 26, 2023
Happy Thanksgiving 2023
No show this week!!
We hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!!
Thank you all for your continued support & we will be back next week with a new episode.
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Hey, everybody.
This is Mike.
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And since Chris isn't here this
week, I guess Mike is going to
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interview Mike.
It should be interesting.
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No, seriously, I just wanted to
get on here and wish everybody a
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happy Thanksgiving and say that
we are thankful that you've been
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00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,920
listening and following us on
Spotify.
7
00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,120
If you haven't done that, click
the follow button and
8
00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:36,520
subscribing, sharing it with the
social medias and all the things
9
00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,520
that you guys have been doing to
help us out.
10
00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080
We truly appreciate it.
This is something that I have
11
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,440
wanted to do for a very long
time and never really knew how
12
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,280
to do it by myself and didn't
put two and two together with
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Chris until he called me up and
wanted to do some music.
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And I traded writing him music,
which I still owe him for doing
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this podcast.
I know he joked a couple
16
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podcasts ago that he forced me
to do this.
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I actually asked him to do it in
all seriousness and fairness to
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him, so I I'm thankful that he
wanted to do it.
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He didn't even bat an eye.
So him and I have always worked
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well together and we have a lot
of fun and there's times where
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00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,120
we would get in super deep
conversations about a subject
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that we were at odds with but
somehow never came to a
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disagreement violently.
You know, nobody ever raised
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their voice or I just really
admire somebody that I can have
25
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those deep conversations with.
And I guess that's the point of
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the podcast is just to be able
to have a long form discussion
27
00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,160
with somebody that has lived an
interesting life in whatever
28
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,200
capacity.
You know, I started getting into
29
00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,520
long form talk radio in the 80s.
My Grammy listened to Art Bell.
30
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,080
He hosted a show called Coast to
Coast AM, which became the
31
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,120
largest syndicated overnight
radio show in the history of the
32
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world.
I believe he went well into the
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2000s and had a show on
SiriusXM, but I digress.
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Anyway, that's what I'm looking
for is just those serious
35
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discussions where you take a
subject and break it down to the
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root, you know?
Things that I've become obsessed
37
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with.
I just want to figure out how
38
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560
they work, you know?
Like when I went to my first
39
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,360
concert and saw the lights and
the smoke and the costumes and
40
00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,320
the volume and the cool guitars,
I wanted to do that myself.
41
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So in order to make that happen,
you have to figure out how it
42
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works.
So I started picking the brains
43
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of all the people that were
involved in that business in
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whatever capacity.
So starting out, I've found a
45
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good guitar teacher and he
taught me that side of it and
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how amps and guitars and strings
and cables and everything makes,
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you know, even if it's the
slightest bit of difference.
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So you figure out that and then
you figure out how to perform
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with other people and put a band
together and practice, and then
50
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you have to figure out how to
book gigs.
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And that's fun all by itself
because you get told no
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constantly, no, no, no.
Especially as an original band,
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nobody really wants to give you
a chance.
54
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So getting your foot in the door
that way and having the
55
00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440
connections and the networking
and just all that stuff was
56
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fascinating to me.
So just that one subject I broke
57
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down to its root to the point
where, you know, I was playing
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professionally and we were open
international acts and playing
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on the big stages in front of
the big crowds and it was
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amazing.
So I admire anybody that puts in
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that kind of time and those are
the kind of conversations that
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I'm looking to have.
So I guess that's the target
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audience and the point of the
podcast is just to have deep
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conversations about subjects
that either I'm interested in or
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subjects that I'm competent in,
like music.
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Being a guitar player.
I've been a recording engineer,
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I've built studios, I've run
live sound.
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So Chris has been a performing
actor on stage.
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As an actor and as a musician,
we both obviously shared the
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stage in a band capacity.
So we'll be talking on those
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subjects.
And then we actually just booked
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our first guest week before last
and well, he confirmed we
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haven't booked him.
He's waiting on us.
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I want to make sure that I have
this, you know, figured out to
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the point where we don't cause
him any inconvenience being on
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here.
I think everybody's going to
77
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enjoy it.
I'm super excited about it.
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This person's been in the music
business for 40 years,
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professionally, give or take.
Maybe more, maybe less.
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Somewhere right around there.
And as soon as we get a date
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ironed out, I will announce who
it is.
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It's probably not somebody
that's going to be a household
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name, but he was a behind the
scenes guy for years as a front
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of house sound engineer.
He was also a recording
85
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engineer.
We'll let him dissect all the
86
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functions he's played in the
music business, but I think
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you'll enjoy your stories.
I've really enjoyed them when I
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got to hear them for the first
time.
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So we were honored that he said
yes, and looking forward to
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doing that interview coming up
probably within the next few
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weeks, I would imagine.
And then, you know, Chris and I
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don't make a mystery out of the
fact that both of us are
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recovering addicts.
So we definitely want to offer
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people some kind of hope and let
you know some of the horror
95
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stories of how we got there.
And the flip side of it of you
96
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:24,160
know, how you got out of it, how
you stay out of it, finding
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positive affirmations to let you
know you're going to make it
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through another day some days.
So it's a constant.
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It's a constant reminding
yourself that you're no longer
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there.
That's not going to help you,
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that kind of thing.
So we definitely want to unpack
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what got us there, what got us
out of it, what keeps us out of
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it, what to do if you know
somebody that's in that
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position.
That's important to me as that
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people understand that A, it's
not their fault and B, that that
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person's sick and and sometimes
there's just nothing you can do
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until they want to help
themselves.
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So we'll go down that road as
well-being as we've both been
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there.
So I don't want to end on a
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downer.
It was supposed to be a
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Thanksgiving message, right.
So anyway, happy Thanksgiving to
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everybody and once again we
thank you for your support.
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The outpouring of love for this
podcast has been amazing and
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more than I expected.
And I'm humbled and honored that
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people have been listening and
are interested in listening.
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And it's a blast for us to do.
Probably more so Chris than
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myself at the moment, just
because this is way outside my
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comfort zone.
So I'm getting there.
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Just getting on here and doing
this by myself is proof enough,
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I guess.
I've come a long way.
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So Happy Thanksgiving to
everybody.
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And we will be back a week from
today with a brand new episode
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with the both of us, and we look
forward to bringing that to you
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then.
Until then, everybody be safe,
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be kind to each other and talk
to you soon.
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Peace.
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Hey, everybody.
This is Mike.
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And since Chris isn't here this
week, I guess Mike is going to
3
00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:11,240
interview Mike.
It should be interesting.
4
00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,320
No, seriously, I just wanted to
get on here and wish everybody a
5
00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:22,600
happy Thanksgiving and say that
we are thankful that you've been
6
00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,920
listening and following us on
Spotify.
7
00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,120
If you haven't done that, click
the follow button and
8
00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:36,520
subscribing, sharing it with the
social medias and all the things
9
00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,520
that you guys have been doing to
help us out.
10
00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080
We truly appreciate it.
This is something that I have
11
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,440
wanted to do for a very long
time and never really knew how
12
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,280
to do it by myself and didn't
put two and two together with
13
00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,120
Chris until he called me up and
wanted to do some music.
14
00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,240
And I traded writing him music,
which I still owe him for doing
15
00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,240
this podcast.
I know he joked a couple
16
00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,519
podcasts ago that he forced me
to do this.
17
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I actually asked him to do it in
all seriousness and fairness to
18
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,800
him, so I I'm thankful that he
wanted to do it.
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00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,320
He didn't even bat an eye.
So him and I have always worked
20
00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,680
well together and we have a lot
of fun and there's times where
21
00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,120
we would get in super deep
conversations about a subject
22
00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:32,160
that we were at odds with but
somehow never came to a
23
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disagreement violently.
You know, nobody ever raised
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their voice or I just really
admire somebody that I can have
25
00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440
those deep conversations with.
And I guess that's the point of
26
00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,560
the podcast is just to be able
to have a long form discussion
27
00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,160
with somebody that has lived an
interesting life in whatever
28
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,200
capacity.
You know, I started getting into
29
00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,520
long form talk radio in the 80s.
My Grammy listened to Art Bell.
30
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,080
He hosted a show called Coast to
Coast AM, which became the
31
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,120
largest syndicated overnight
radio show in the history of the
32
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,200
world.
I believe he went well into the
33
00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,760
2000s and had a show on
SiriusXM, but I digress.
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Anyway, that's what I'm looking
for is just those serious
35
00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,720
discussions where you take a
subject and break it down to the
36
00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,640
root, you know?
Things that I've become obsessed
37
00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,280
with.
I just want to figure out how
38
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,560
they work, you know?
Like when I went to my first
39
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,360
concert and saw the lights and
the smoke and the costumes and
40
00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,320
the volume and the cool guitars,
I wanted to do that myself.
41
00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,920
So in order to make that happen,
you have to figure out how it
42
00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,800
works.
So I started picking the brains
43
00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,400
of all the people that were
involved in that business in
44
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,760
whatever capacity.
So starting out, I've found a
45
00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,080
good guitar teacher and he
taught me that side of it and
46
00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,080
how amps and guitars and strings
and cables and everything makes,
47
00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,280
you know, even if it's the
slightest bit of difference.
48
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,520
So you figure out that and then
you figure out how to perform
49
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,880
with other people and put a band
together and practice, and then
50
00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,960
you have to figure out how to
book gigs.
51
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,000
And that's fun all by itself
because you get told no
52
00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,560
constantly, no, no, no.
Especially as an original band,
53
00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,720
nobody really wants to give you
a chance.
54
00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,320
So getting your foot in the door
that way and having the
55
00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440
connections and the networking
and just all that stuff was
56
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,920
fascinating to me.
So just that one subject I broke
57
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,160
down to its root to the point
where, you know, I was playing
58
00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,920
professionally and we were open
international acts and playing
59
00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,480
on the big stages in front of
the big crowds and it was
60
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,040
amazing.
So I admire anybody that puts in
61
00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,040
that kind of time and those are
the kind of conversations that
62
00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,240
I'm looking to have.
So I guess that's the target
63
00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,760
audience and the point of the
podcast is just to have deep
64
00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,600
conversations about subjects
that either I'm interested in or
65
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,880
subjects that I'm competent in,
like music.
66
00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,040
Being a guitar player.
I've been a recording engineer,
67
00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,600
I've built studios, I've run
live sound.
68
00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,960
So Chris has been a performing
actor on stage.
69
00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:38,800
As an actor and as a musician,
we both obviously shared the
70
00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,800
stage in a band capacity.
So we'll be talking on those
71
00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,200
subjects.
And then we actually just booked
72
00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:52,160
our first guest week before last
and well, he confirmed we
73
00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,960
haven't booked him.
He's waiting on us.
74
00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,800
I want to make sure that I have
this, you know, figured out to
75
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,960
the point where we don't cause
him any inconvenience being on
76
00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,800
here.
I think everybody's going to
77
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,920
enjoy it.
I'm super excited about it.
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00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560
This person's been in the music
business for 40 years,
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professionally, give or take.
Maybe more, maybe less.
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Somewhere right around there.
And as soon as we get a date
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ironed out, I will announce who
it is.
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It's probably not somebody
that's going to be a household
83
00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,760
name, but he was a behind the
scenes guy for years as a front
84
00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,120
of house sound engineer.
He was also a recording
85
00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,000
engineer.
We'll let him dissect all the
86
00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,880
functions he's played in the
music business, but I think
87
00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,240
you'll enjoy your stories.
I've really enjoyed them when I
88
00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,640
got to hear them for the first
time.
89
00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,720
So we were honored that he said
yes, and looking forward to
90
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,440
doing that interview coming up
probably within the next few
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00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,920
weeks, I would imagine.
And then, you know, Chris and I
92
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,520
don't make a mystery out of the
fact that both of us are
93
00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,400
recovering addicts.
So we definitely want to offer
94
00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,480
people some kind of hope and let
you know some of the horror
95
00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:17,800
stories of how we got there.
And the flip side of it of you
96
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:24,160
know, how you got out of it, how
you stay out of it, finding
97
00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:31,360
positive affirmations to let you
know you're going to make it
98
00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,280
through another day some days.
So it's a constant.
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It's a constant reminding
yourself that you're no longer
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there.
That's not going to help you,
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that kind of thing.
So we definitely want to unpack
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what got us there, what got us
out of it, what keeps us out of
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it, what to do if you know
somebody that's in that
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position.
That's important to me as that
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people understand that A, it's
not their fault and B, that that
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person's sick and and sometimes
there's just nothing you can do
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until they want to help
themselves.
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So we'll go down that road as
well-being as we've both been
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there.
So I don't want to end on a
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downer.
It was supposed to be a
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Thanksgiving message, right.
So anyway, happy Thanksgiving to
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everybody and once again we
thank you for your support.
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The outpouring of love for this
podcast has been amazing and
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more than I expected.
And I'm humbled and honored that
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people have been listening and
are interested in listening.
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And it's a blast for us to do.
Probably more so Chris than
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myself at the moment, just
because this is way outside my
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comfort zone.
So I'm getting there.
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Just getting on here and doing
this by myself is proof enough,
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I guess.
I've come a long way.
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So Happy Thanksgiving to
everybody.
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And we will be back a week from
today with a brand new episode
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with the both of us, and we look
forward to bringing that to you
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then.
Until then, everybody be safe,
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be kind to each other and talk
to you soon.
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Peace.