#169 - Nate Palmer - Fitness/Nutrition Coach

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What's now Mantic?
There we go.

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There we go, boys and girls.
Welcome to the show.

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YouTube and Twitters.
YouTube and Twitters.

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Everybody.
Everybody.

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Listen to me.
Why?

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Why should I listen to you?
You're going to show me what,

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man?
Oh, I love that.

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What are you going to be?
What are you going to be?

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Oh, yeah.
What are you going to find?

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What are you going to do with
it?

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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hey, man, welcome to the Chris

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and Mike show.
I'm Chris.

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He's Mike.
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Palmer.

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Welcome back, Nate Palmer.
Thanks.

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It's good to be here.
You.

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Heard that song before a couple
times.

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A couple.
Times I've heard that song

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before, you know, it's like an.
Lyric or two to that.

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This way there's there's a funny
bit man, I saw a long time ago

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on Saturday Night Live where
where, where one of the one of

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the actors on the show was doing
that with the song.

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I'm like, that's fucking
brilliant.

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So it was.
Really good, I liked it.

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Yeah, you know, my my favorite
song moment in SNL is when

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Kristen Wiig and Fred Armisen
like Fred would sing a song that

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he's making up and Kristen would
be like, yeah, I know that song

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and try to sing along with it on
Weekend Update.

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That is like that's my favorite
type of I never I'm going to

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have.
To YouTube that, that sounds

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cool.
Was was she in the Penelope

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character?
'Cause they're like, they're

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like a band or like they're like
they're married, but they're.

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A couple.
Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

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Her Penelope character is pretty
cool too, because it was where

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she was twirling her hair.
And you'd be like, you'd be

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like, I can bench £450 six
times.

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Yeah, well, I can bench, like,
500 lbs twelve times.

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So there's that.
Like everything that you would

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say, she went up.
And we went.

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Up her.
We actually had a neighbor at at

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the time that as soon as that
episode of Cessna dropped and

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then we were at their house
hanging out and they can like,

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holy shit, it's Penelope.
Obviously we never told that

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neighbor and we've I will not
tell that neighbor that don't

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no, not no name dropping.
But yeah, it was a trip.

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Dude.
It was like every time from that

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point on the rest of our lives,
whenever we hung with them and

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then they were do that.
We just like, yeah, yeah.

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That's.
Penelope there's I mean, there's

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people like that though that you
just like you're trying to have

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a conversation with them and
they're like, well, actually

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when when I was in the Amazon
jungle and you're like, OK.

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Yeah, take a breath.
Actually, that's most people.

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If you notice, they're just
waiting to tell you what they've

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done, even if they have done it
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I call those people ZQ people. 0
questions.

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Here's a great here's a great
example.

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Nate.
I just, Rogan was telling a

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story about this game show that
he did.

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It was called Game Show in my
head.

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So one of their skits that they
were going to do was there was a

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reporter on the street who was
supposed to interview these

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people who had been abducted by
aliens, right?

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They'd seen a UFO, They'd gone
up in the ship, but that person

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is gone.
So you need to fill in for the

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person who was abducted.
He said it was 100%, everyone

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did it.
They're all lying, right?

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But they knew they were going to
be on TV, so they signed the

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form and said, yeah, sure, I was
abducted by aliens.

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Wow.
Well.

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That's 10 people want to be
noticed.

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Well, that's kind of like with
with the reality show stuff like

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the producers will tell you, and
I've, we've talked about this

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when I was on that one, you
know, millionaire mastermind,

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whatever it's called real estate
show that I walked out of

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because of the bullshit they do.
But they would tell you, like in

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Nate, if you're on a fitness
show and, and you were just

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getting along with me, Mike, the
producer would come up.

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Nate, I need you to talk about
Chris's sobriety because we know

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that's going to be a trigger for
him.

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And we want you to poke and
potted him about how he's not

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really sober because at some
point in time in his 20 years,

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he has slipped and he's just
lying about it.

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And that wants you to every
reality show you're watching.

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And literally, it would be like
Nate.

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Nobody wants to see you and
Chris get along, so we're going

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to need you guys to have some
kind of, you know, hostile.

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Interaction.
Yeah, man, should we do that?

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We can do it, yeah.
We can do that.

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We can do that.
We can do that.

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I'm a little bit hostile
sometimes.

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We could, I could, I could be
really hostile for it to you.

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Know I could be the producer
because I try not to be.

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Hostile.
I'll win the producer shopping

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cart out in front of you, Chris.
I'll be, I'll say that right

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now.
Dude, I've seen people do that

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when people park in those red
zones in front of stores.

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I've seen people walk up and put
the shopping carts in front of

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their car.
So, and, and, and then when they

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leave, they don't realize the
cart's there.

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I don't want to, I, I'm not
there to see it happen, the

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aftermath of it.
But I've, I've literally watched

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people walk up and put their
cart in front of a vehicle

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that's in that unload that red
zone, fire lane and walk away.

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And I'm like, OK.
And I look kind of like, oh,

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that's brilliant.
Like I wonder what's going to

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happen.
That was my first thought when

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you said.
When they pull out, because when

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they pull out, if they don't see
the cart, boom, they hit the

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cart and then it's like, what
are you going to do?

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What are you going to complain
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You're not supposed to park to
begin.

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With I feel like this all goes
back to kind of like the self,

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like knowledge of self and just
like authenticity.

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I think people who are, who know
who they are, that is that's

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like #1 my like my #1
qualification.

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If if I want to like be around
someone, they have to be self

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aware.
Do you guys find that that is

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that like, you know, you've
interviewed tons and tons of

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people on the show.
How often or what percentage of

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people would you say, come on
and are self aware?

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They know who they are.
They know how they shut the

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present and show up.
Can I answer that question?

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Yes, absolutely.
I'm glad you asked that.

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That's a good question, nice job
mate.

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High 5.
I'm going to give Chris kudos in

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that it would be way higher if
he wasn't better at reading

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people's bullshit, right?
So he'll text me every now and

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then and he'll say, and I'm not
going to throw anybody under the

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bus, but for an example, he'll
say this person wants to come on

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and talk about XY and Z.
Here's how I feel about it.

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And I would say over the course
of what, 2 1/2 years we've been

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doing this, we've only disagreed
maybe one time.

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And I went along with him
because I felt like discretion

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was the better part of valor,
right?

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If he's got a bad feeling about
somebody that's going to be on

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the show.
So to answer your, that's a long

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winded way of saying most people
we have on here are hyper self

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aware, right?
Because they've lived either a

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hard life, an interesting life,
whatever.

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You know, he likes to call him
life's resumes, which I love.

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So on this show, I would say
most people are hyper self

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aware.
And I've learned a lot from

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that, right?
But in general, on a daily

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basis, the people I meet, almost
none of them are self aware.

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So literally, I have levels of
friends, right?

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You guys are people that I would
look to, to teach me, to make me

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a better person, right?
When Nate's talking, when Chris

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is talking, I'm listening
because I'm going to learn

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something along the way.
Of the two.

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Of you guys.
Are waiting to answer, you know.

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Who's who's more like?
Who's more naive?

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I guess the naive is not maybe
the like the nicest word.

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I would say I'm pretty naive.
That's not the right.

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Word.
But who know, like, like who's

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more like willing to give people
the benefit of the doubt and

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who's more willing to cut
through like and just be like,

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no, that's, that's bullshit.
I'm getting a bad feeling about

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that.
That's why we make a good.

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That's why we always made a good
team in the band as songwriters

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on the podcast.
My wife is like that.

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She's a lot more like she's
like, I don't like that person

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And I'm like, he seems fine,
he's nice and then she's like

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all the time.
Screwed.

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Most of the time we're going to
get taken and I.

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Can't have a week.
Yeah, I get.

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I get.
I've gotten scammed before,

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sure.
Me too.

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Yeah.
I think it's a woman thing

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because Nikki's like that.
Nikki.

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Nikki will judge.
Not not judge is the wrong word.

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I don't want to say that she
will pick up on the person's

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true reasoning for trying to get
into our circle within the first

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half hour meeting them.
She's only been fooled once and

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the people that fooled her
fooled me.

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And it was a real estate thing.
I'm not going to go into because

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I'm not going to throw them out
of the bus.

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But it was mind boggling how how
she didn't catch it because it's

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always, it's always like if
you'd like, if I just met you,

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Nate and you and your wife are
going to come over and we're

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going to hang out within the 1st
30 minutes, Nikki would, would,

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would know the type of human you
are and the type of human your

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wife are.
And as soon as you left the

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house after date night,
whatever, she'd be like, I like

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Nate or Nate.
What the fuck is up with Nate?

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She wouldn't say like that, but
she's like, you know, there's

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something wrong.
But that's just, I think it's a

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woman thing because women have
to have that extra sense because

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men are assholes.
And so they have to have that

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internal alarm and those hairs
in the back of their head paying

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attention to them because as as
women will tell you guys lie

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about everything.
Sure.

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Especially when you're dating,
right.

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Oh, oh, yeah.
I mean, I mean, they, they lie

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about everything.
So that's the other part of why

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I think the women have that
extra little receptor.

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If you like it's discernment.
You know what?

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I.
Mean, there you go.

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Discernment.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, absolutely.
But I heard that that women who

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have the best husbands hate men
the most.

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I could see that.
Yeah, I could see that.

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I can see that.
Because they're like, I know, I

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know what it looks like to live
with a like a high integrity

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man.
And therefore, like all this

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other bullshit, does not fly
with me.

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Well, and that's part of the
reason why Nikki and I gravitate

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each other, because, because at
the time I had shaved my head

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and then I was realizing back
then that that women were

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shallow as a motherfucker
because like, nobody had shaved

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their head yet.
Like, I did it before.

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Michael Stipe did it once.
Michael Stipe did it already.

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And then all of a sudden, oh,
Michael Stipe shaved his head

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and became relevant.
Kind of.

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Even then, it still wasn't.
True, but you had you had.

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You had a public figure.
I'll agree.

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With you there.
But yeah, I've, I've always said

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when you did that, man, that was
people have no idea.

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I hate to equate it to The
Beatles, but you know, right,

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Right, right.
It was that shocking when I saw

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him for the first time because
he had long hair when I met him,

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right.
And then all of a sudden he

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shows up for band practice one
day and he looks like that in a

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time when that was not socially
acceptable, is the best way to

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put it.
We've got a good shape for your

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head.
It's nice.

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It's nice.
Thank you.

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Really good shape.
Mine's a little lumpier than

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that.
I don't get away with the shape

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very often.
I'm lucky in that respect too,

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Nate.
Mine's like his.

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It's round on top.
That's nice.

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My dad, he always says I'd, I'd
be screwed because he's kind of

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got the you know where
Frankenstein on top.

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Why not flat spots on the side?
Yeah, OK.

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Yeah, yeah.
So it's not good.

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It's not good.
We got a picture.

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Oh, we're just looking at the
whole thing.

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He's.
Giving us the 360.

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The 3D, the 3D mapping I saw
like AI saw like a 3D render of

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like what they thought Pharaoh
might have looked like back like

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from like Egypt.
OK, a lot like Chris, to be

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honest.
He does look very yeah, he could

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pass for an Egyptian.
Very Egyptian.

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I need, I need to be a little
Tanner to be Egyptian.

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But yeah, well, you know.
It's winter time.

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It is winter time, so you asked
you.

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You asked before we jumped on a
show if I was excited about John

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Harbaugh, you know, being a
Giants fan.

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And I'm excited for you, and I'm
not a Giants fan at all.

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Right.
I yeah, yeah.

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Neither is Mike.
Mike's a Bears fan.

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Doug Bears.
Who's your team?

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Nate.
We never talked about that.

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Seahawks.
Oh, OK.

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So the Seahawks are favored to
win the Super Bowl, which I

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don't understand why because Sam
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he's he's possibly playing.
I did not know that they.

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Well, because yesterday, because
everything on social media, I

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mean, everything was.
Harbaugh.

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Harbaugh.
Harbaugh.

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So I ended up watching ESPN,
something inside ESPN inside

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football or something, waiting
for Nick to come home.

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And they were talking about all
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And when they brought up the
Seahawks, it's I, I wanna

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oblique.
He's he's nursing an oblique

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injury, which is really, really,
dude, really.

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Come on man, Oblique's tough.
Though because it's you can't

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heal well.
You Oh, I know, and you're

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throwing it and shit I get.
It throws.

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Yeah, that's going to throw off
your.

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Throat motion for sure, but
quarter zone, you know, 'cause.

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Yeah, yeah, shut up and get two
more games, you know?

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Cut it, Mick.
Cut it, Mick.

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Right.
So but you know, Jack Young

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played the Super Bowl with a
broken fibula, so I don't really

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care if Sam Bradford has has an
oblique issue, dude, just.

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The tough part about that game
is you got to play somebody in

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your own division.
Those division games are tough.

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Dude, yeah, the NFC West has
been crazy.

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This we're like we're like 40
and seven across the NFL.

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Right.
And there's and there's.

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And three of the playoff teams
were from the NFC West this

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year, right?
Well, last time Chris and I

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talked about the NFLI said don't
sleep on the Seahawks, man.

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That team on both sides of the
ball is brutal.

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We don't see a lot of them in
this part of the country

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because, you know, obviously
they're showing the stupid

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Browns and the Cowboys Bears.
But yeah, we end up with the

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Cowboys of the game of the week
The few times that I've had the

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pleasure this year of seeing the
Seahawks.

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What an amazing coach, offense,
defence, just it's a well oiled

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machine.
I'm sorry about it for you about

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this.
Rookie safety Nick Eman worry.

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Yeah.
He's a, he's a beast.

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He's on every play.
What's surprising about the

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Seahawks is the turn around
because how long was how long

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has Carol been gone?
2 years, maybe three that is.

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And all of a sudden they're back
in the playoffs and Carroll got

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a one year deal and not one year
deal.

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Got paid for a year and kicked
to the curb and still making

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money.
I'd say the Seahawks found the

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problem.
Right, and there's still 8

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openings in the NFL head
coaching ranks, man 8.

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Russell Wilson, DK Metcalf and
Pete Carroll.

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I don't think the problem.
Russell Wilson.

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Russell Wilson was not Russell
Wilson was done.

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He should never went to
Pittsburgh.

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He should have retired when
after Denver, he should have

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just called.
I heard someone say he played

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himself out of a Hall of Fame.
He did he absolutely first,

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first, at least the first two
ballots.

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Now he's and now they're
claiming some bullshit.

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Oh, I hurt my hamstring the
second week and the Giants.

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Fuck you, dude.
That's just an excuse.

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It's like you see you, you see
Aaron Rodgers playing right when

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they get in their asses kicked,
all of a sudden he's like, oh,

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my hand, Oh my hand.
Oh, I can't feel my hand.

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Well, I can't feel my hand on my
leg, on my knee, my knee.

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And then as a press cover.
What's wrong with your hand,

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your knee?
Oh, they just, I'm not going to

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comment on that.
I'm not going to comment on

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that.
I'm a professional athlete.

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Shut up, dude.
You're making excuses, man.

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Just please.
But you know.

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Here's a good statistic that I
just saw for those gamblers that

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are out there.
Matthew Stafford is one in nine

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when it's under 20°.
He's only one game, yeah.

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Wow.
And who are they playing the?

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Bears.
Dub Bears and it might be the

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coldest game ever at Soldier
Field with the windshield.

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Oh damn, OK, I watched this
thing on the YouTube last night

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because I was looking for
something and I couldn't find

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it.
So it was the top 10 weather

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games and the bears were on one
of them.

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I want to say -29 with the
windshield.

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Yeah, wasn't that one of the
first Super Bowls?

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Google that.
Google that, Google that, Google

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that.
The Packers played one of those

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games, too.
It might be the Packers that

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the.
Packers was the very first one,

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the ice ball, but this one was
different.

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OK.
Let me go to my YouTube because

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it should be on there because I
watched it.

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And then find out what the
coldest game at Soldier Field

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has been recorded, because
unless the weather changes,

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that's one of the things that I
heard earlier in the week was

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potentially with the wind chill,
it could be the coldest game at

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Soldier Field, which is going to
benefit the Bears mightily.

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The Bears Ben Johnson took.
Away the heaters all week for

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practice.
This game at Soldier Field was

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December 22nd, 2008.
Bears versus Packers

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temperatures at -2 Fahrenheit
with a 13 negative 13° wind

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chill.
Wow.

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I'm Nate Palmer.
I'm faster than Chris Dunham,

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but check this out.
This is pretty cool.

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Look what popped up.
Look what popped up on on on the

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YouTube right there.
We're live right now.

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We're live on.
That's Nate Palmer.

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Like like, isn't that a trip
like?

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I know that dude.
I pulled it up and we're live

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and then.
There's What are what faces are

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we making?
I don't I don't know.

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It's interesting ones, though.
It's it's interesting ones,

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though.
I can't I can't make that go.

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But that was I thought that was
crazy.

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Just dialing in and and OK, so I
got to like, where do we where

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do you find what?
Oh, history, history history

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will tell me history's there it
is top 10 crazies top ten.

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OK, there was top ten worst
weather games so I don't want to

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see the volume I want to get to.
The you looked up specifically

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solder field right now I did,
yeah.

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OK, yeah, because Chris was
busy.

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I'm busy, man.
To step in.

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I'm busy.
We appreciate it, man.

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I'm trying.
I'm trying, Nate.

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You know, I'm a little sly.
Switch the same.

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No, that's why.
I'm I'm so glad you're.

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Helping.
I'm a surgical with Google.

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So we're just let this we're
going to let this play in the

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background because I think it'll
be fun to have it on the side.

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So these are weather games.
So that was the that was super

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cold that.
Game.

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I was going to say I don't see
any weather.

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No, there was a super cold one.
Super cold.

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Super cold.
In Dallas.

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Yeah, yeah, it's shit.
Is that or is it?

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No.
Or maybe it's humid.

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Super humid.
Like 109°.

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That's what it was, 109° at
kickoff.

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Everyone's cramped.
The hot.

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The hot.
The hottest game in NFL history.

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OK, the humidity must have just
been stifling.

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That's just.
As bad as being -13.

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Amen.
I don't like either one.

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I don't like either one either.
I don't like either one either.

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So that's, that's number nine
game #9 Andy Reid when he was

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skinny and young, the Bears, the
Bears.

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So let's see what they say about
this one.

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Oh, the wind, 27 mile an hour
winds throughout the game. 95

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combined passing yards with six.
Turnovers. 27 mile an hour wins

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man throughout the game and look
at this, look how it moves.

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Look at that.
And he he missed it.

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He missed it like nobody even
broke. 50 yards passing on

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either side.
Of the No, no, it was crazy and

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I I don't remember if this is a
run back or not, but I it may be

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the run back that sealed the
game.

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Yeah, he runs it back all the
way back from the from the

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field.
Gomes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was the largest, the

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longest field goal return in the
NFL history at the time.

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At the time.
Yep.

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Fasher.
Yep.

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And he just falls in the ends
and like, damn, I'm tired.

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So you got another Cowboys game.
Oh, the snow game, 16 to 14.

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Oh, it's honorable mentioned.
Shit.

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They were doing honor mention
stuff, which was irritating.

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There's a pretty fun snow game,
1948 NFL championship game,

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Chicago Cardinals, Philadelphia
Eagles.

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Look at that shit, man Wow.
That's how football should be

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played, that right there.
And again, it's an it's an

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honorable mention.
It's not it's not actual the

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thing.
So here's #7 this one's pretty

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cool.
If I remember correctly, one of

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the one of the kickoffs or
Ponce, it's just the ball.

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Just go right into the ground.
But look at all this snowman

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like it's while you're playing
the game like.

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But let me tell you, they're in
Detroit, right?

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Billy.
That's OK.

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That's Billy.
Well, they have the same thing.

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They're close to water.
When you're close to water like

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that, it is fascinating how fast
snow can accumulate, right?

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So look at that.
The wide receiver had 243 return

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yards and two touchdowns.
Lashawn McCoy had 29 rush yards,

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29 rushing, 217 yards and two
touchdowns.

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Totally a ground game.
That was the seventh worst one.

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I think we're going to see a lot
of ground games.

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There's there's.
The mud, there's the mud.

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The Vikings and the Rams, that
was in LA.

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The Vikings went to LA and and
just, yeah, Rams to the ball

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over three times.
That was that was a muddy,

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sloppy game.
Muddy, sloppy game.

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Number 5 was a snow bowl.
Or was it the fog?

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Remember the fog game?
Chicago fog game.

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No, this is yeah, this is the
Chicago game.

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The lake effect.
Yeah, yeah.

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No, I'm sorry, Not the Bears.
Frick is oh, see the ball.

453
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,280
Just Duke.
Watch, watch, watch, watch.

454
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720
Duke.
What is the bill?

455
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,840
6 was in the bill.
It was in Buffalo.

456
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,680
It was in Buffalo.
Yeah, Buffalo and and the Colts.

457
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200
Gross.
Watch this guy gets tackled by

458
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:30,680
the snow.
Like legit he gets tackled by

459
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,720
the snow.
OK, snow tackle.

460
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,440
Oh man, you're that cold though
and you get hit.

461
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,320
I mean that hurts so bad.
That's what I was thinking too

462
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,560
man.
This is the water game where

463
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,560
they had the field was an
island.

464
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,800
It's coming next.
The the field was an island.

465
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,680
Remember this in in Carolina,
the tsunami bowl.

466
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520
Yeah, the field they had 6
inches of water around the

467
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,680
field.
They said while I was watching

468
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,520
this but legit just.
Sloppy.

469
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,120
You can't see the lakes on them.
Yeah, field there.

470
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,200
That's the that's the anti ACL
bowl. 4 inches of rainfall

471
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,120
beginning in the second quarter,
4 inches, so first quarter dry,

472
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,400
second quarter, 4 inches started
coming down.

473
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,080
And that's the way it works.
Yeah.

474
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,600
Get close to what?
Jacksonville, That's they get

475
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,440
that.
That was North Carolina, yeah.

476
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,440
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

477
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,400
Anytime we're that close to the
ocean, it's.

478
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,920
Crazy icicles can OK so cold
cold cold when he had icicles on

479
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,920
the eyebrows.
Oh this was a disgusting game.

480
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,560
I watch this in Panama.
Yeah, Patriots defeat the

481
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,480
Dolphins, the lowest scoring
Monday Night Football game in

482
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,480
history. 3.
To three nothing. 3 to nothing.

483
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,480
That's Seahawks game that we
won, and here's.

484
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480
This and then yeah, here's this
one so.

485
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,160
Which it was Blair Walsh's
botching 5 field goals.

486
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,400
Yeah, there was.
There was that stat.

487
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,160
I want to get that.
Stat.

488
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,200
And then we signed Blair Walsh
two years later.

489
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280
I was like, are you guys forgot?
He missed five in one game.

490
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,000
Maybe it was maybe 4, but it was
like still disgusting.

491
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Yeah, that's.
Crazy there's a, there's a thing

492
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,480
going on one of the Giants pages
to everybody send Tyler Lupa a

493
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040
thank you card for missing the
field goal for Harbaugh getting

494
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,520
fired.
So this was minus this is what I

495
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520
was talking about, Mike.
So you're, you're you this, it

496
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,240
wasn't the Bears, but -6° of
kickoff -25 win shows the third

497
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320
coldest game in NFL history.
And this was the Seahawks and

498
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600
the, and the Packers.
I mean the Packers, the Vikings.

499
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:27,400
Icicles on his eyebrows.
You.

500
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,720
Got icicles on your eyebrows
and.

501
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,600
What?
So was that?

502
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,360
So no, Minnesota had an outdoor
stadium.

503
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:39,880
How the hell did he miss that?
I I.

504
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,480
Don't remember that, I guess
they did huh?

505
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Before they went to Dome.
So then the mud really knew.

506
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,280
OK, OK.
And then the 2007, the muddy

507
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,720
Monday night, muddy Night
Football.

508
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,560
This is the lowest scoring
Monday Night Football Game 3.

509
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,720
Nothing was the end score and it
was just it was just mud.

510
00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,520
Look at that boom.
See it just just stuck.

511
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,560
Just just stuck and they're all
walking around it.

512
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,960
Replace your debit.
Yeah, lowest scoring game in

513
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,360
Monday Night Football history 3
Nothing Steelers.

514
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,040
That's the highlight.
And that's just an honorable

515
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:21,160
mention, mind you, but yeah #4
the Fog Bowl, the Bears and

516
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Eagles.
Oh yeah, this is Randall

517
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,760
Cunningham era, Jim McMahon era.
Yep, I remember that game.

518
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,960
What's funny is they had the
commentators talking and they're

519
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,920
like, it's like we're in the
clouds trying to figure out what

520
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,800
the Hell's going on.
And we couldn't, we couldn't see

521
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,920
anything.
And yeah, second quarter,

522
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,080
through the rest of the game, it
was just dense fog.

523
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,840
I remember too.
It's like, how do you play in

524
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,480
that?
Which is crazy now because

525
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,560
they'll call any game now with
just a little bit of rain, right

526
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,360
when it starts flooding.
Oh, we got to call the game.

527
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,160
We got to pause it for two
hours.

528
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,240
It's not safe.
How was that safe?

529
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,360
It's not.
No, it's football.

530
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,040
It's football, right?
I can't believe we haven't seen

531
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,600
the fans throwing snow.
And Buffalo remember that when

532
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,480
they were throwing snowballs and
they had to threaten the if they

533
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,200
throw any more snowballs,
they're going to start

534
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,720
penalizing the Bills.
Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.

535
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,320
What was this one?
Number three?

536
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,640
January 10th, 82.
Where is that?

537
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,560
What stadium is that?
Oh yeah.

538
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Bengals.
Chargers.

539
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,520
Bengals.
The Freezer Bowl.

540
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320
I love that you guys can just
like, do your podcast about

541
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,720
whatever too.
That's so fun.

542
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,240
I feel like sometimes I go to my
podcast, I'm like fitness again

543
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,160
already.
I got 600 episodes about

544
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,720
fitness.
What?

545
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,080
Yeah, yeah, I think we'll tell.
You that I told him probably

546
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,520
till the point where he didn't
want to do the show with me

547
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,960
anymore.
I'm like, as long as you

548
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720
understand that we can talk
about anything at any time.

549
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,480
This is just like we're having a
conversation.

550
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,920
It is cool.
Yeah.

551
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
Yeah, which I know he got sick
of me saying that.

552
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,560
No, but I think that's why
people like it, because it's

553
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,600
conversational.
The Tuck Rule game, everybody

554
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160
members of Tuck Rule that that
that changed the outcome of

555
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,400
Gruden's legacy as a as a Super
Bowl winning coach in in the

556
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Raiders world. 4 inches of
snowfall in the game during the

557
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720
game and again now.
Yeah.

558
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,000
And nowadays they would say, oh,
we got to stop player safety.

559
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,200
We don't want to get a contusion
on her inner thigh.

560
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Like shut up, you're a football
player, man #2 again with the

561
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,360
again with the Raiders.
Yeah.

562
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,360
Oh, that was that was the same.
Why?

563
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,480
That was weird.
I thought the other one was

564
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600
number 30.
We're not at #2 yet.

565
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,080
OK, not bad.
Jump ahead #2 there you go. 4°

566
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960
to kick off -27 wind chill. 4th
coldest game in history.

567
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,160
It was the the Chiefs and the
Rams and not the Rams, the

568
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,520
Dolphins.
I'm going to experience this

569
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,920
close to that this weekend.
Yeah, it was just cold.

570
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280
Are you going to?
Here's the What's that?

571
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,920
You going to the game?
No, no, no, no.

572
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,680
It's just going to be that cold
in Illinois.

573
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,840
So I get to experience it right
along with the Bears.

574
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Oh that'll be nice.
You should go outside.

575
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,240
Bears with a helmet on run into
some stuff.

576
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,680
You know how you tell people
everything above 110 is pretty

577
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,760
much the same, it's just hot?
OK, so this is the game you want

578
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,360
to.
This is the game the Bears want

579
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,480
to beat. 13 -, 13° to kick off
-20 three wind chill.

580
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,600
That's the coldest game NFL
history.

581
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Only wind chill maybe?
Yeah, that's the cold.

582
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,360
Well, that's the thing though.
If it's if the wind chill's

583
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,360
below 23°, it could be the
coldest game.

584
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:38,040
And, and it could, and, and
they, they were talking about

585
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080
how the, the, they put their
hands in the pockets like that

586
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,200
to know it was going to be a
pass.

587
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,400
Oh wait, what was the actual
temperature of that game?

588
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,360
I'm.
Sorry -13 at start with the -20

589
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,200
three wind.
Chill.

590
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,040
So it'll be a wind chill thing.
Yeah, so that was the 12 coldest

591
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,640
games, the 12 most weather games
in NFL.

592
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,800
That was cool history.
Brought to you by the Chris and

593
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,160
Mike Show.
Nate Palmer, special guest,

594
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,360
athletic.
Training something new everyday.

595
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,960
You know, this is all about
fitness and and how fit were

596
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480
those athletes playing that
game?

597
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Crazy.
Pretty pretty fit night.

598
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760
I think the, I think NFL
athletes are, are like top tier

599
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,440
in terms of just fitness.
Like you take a tight end or a

600
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,280
linebacker and they can pretty
much play any sport.

601
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800
I think basketball athletes are
maybe some of the most like

602
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,480
athletic in terms of like
plyometrics and bounciness.

603
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,960
I think gymnasts are the
strongest and I think wrestlers

604
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520
are the most well conditioned.
How about soccer?

605
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Soccer's have good endurance,
but I wouldn't say that they're

606
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,320
like upper level like of elite
athletes.

607
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Would you say, would you say
gymnasts have the best core

608
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,680
strength?
Probably they just like just

609
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,840
overall, like in terms of just
strength, the way your shield,

610
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760
yeah, those guys are, those guys
are unbeatable.

611
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,160
I would agree with that because
one of my best friends in

612
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,760
college was a gymnast and that
dude was strong.

613
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,440
Like you could even couldn't
even imagine.

614
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,600
He was like, no, he was my size
and my frame, but he looked like

615
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,200
Nate, you know, just he was
defined everywhere.

616
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,880
I, I see gymnasts all the time
who's like, you know, they come

617
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,880
into the gym.
These are like junior high high

618
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,720
school gymnasts.
They come into the gym for the

619
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,360
first time and then they they do
20 pull ups with 90 lbs on them

620
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,480
or they deadlift 405 lbs having
never deadlift before.

621
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200
This dude did the rings, Nate.
Yeah, like they're, they're

622
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,320
ridiculous, Chris.
They're, they're just so strong

623
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,240
because they move their body
through space and there's like,

624
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,680
so there's a difference between
like doing a leg press.

625
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920
It's called an open chain
exercise where you're moving an

626
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,880
external load.
A shoulder press is a, is an

627
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,920
open chain exercise, a closed
chain exercise like a push up or

628
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,680
a squat where you're moving your
body through space.

629
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,560
So all gymnasts do is move their
body through space.

630
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,360
And these closed chain exercises
and closed chain exercises do

631
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,520
two things which are really cool
because they signal to your body

632
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,640
that there's some external
threat.

633
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480
We need to get out of this into
this tree to escape the Saber

634
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,680
toothed tiger.
So they are very good at

635
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,880
retraining your body to build
more muscle and to drop more fat

636
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,920
because it's just a safety thing
for us.

637
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,280
So it's a kind of triggers that
evolutionary mechanism that we

638
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080
have to keep ourselves safe.
So that's why I think that most

639
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
people should training should do
more closed chain than open

640
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,040
chain.
Even though open chain like

641
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
machines and stuff are really
fun, keeping something in there

642
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080
where you're moving your body
through space and like learning

643
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,960
that proprioception really
helpful for body composition

644
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,760
stuff and just being strong and
and able.

645
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Like this guy?
Yeah, that guy is probably

646
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,400
pretty strong.
He's got, he's got multiple ABS,

647
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,560
like 13 of them.
That's an inmate that.

648
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Yeah, yeah, fuck.
Yeah, I bet he could do 30

649
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,920
muscle UPS.
Look at that one arm.

650
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
One arm.
I mean, have you tried hanging?

651
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,520
From one arm.
I never have.

652
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,480
I'll do it next time I go to
the.

653
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,320
US as a.
Kid go slow with it, go slow

654
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,680
with it.
Start with two and then and then

655
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160
let let the other one drop.
But it is go with, OK, it's a

656
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,560
lot harder than that guy made it
look.

657
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,160
OK.
Yeah, he made it look easy.

658
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,520
Yeah, he makes, he makes pretty
much everything look easy.

659
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920
So here's here's the rings.
The rings I think are impressive

660
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,760
just for the sheer.
That's what my body had.

661
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,960
The shoulder strength has to be
insane for the rings man.

662
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640
The but like, what's crazy about
this is that his biceps are

663
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840
working to like maintain the
iron Cross or that the planche

664
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
your biceps have to be so strong
because if you if you're like,

665
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280
even if you tried that weight,
Chris, without using your body,

666
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520
your biceps would probably RIP
right off the head of your

667
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,440
finger or head of your humerus.
Probably would because that like

668
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720
the amount of tension and torque
through this part of your muscle

669
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,320
is absolutely mind blowing.
These guys have like the

670
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,680
strongest arms ever even though
they're just doing straight arm

671
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760
stuff.
It's crazy to be able to do

672
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480
that.
So how long would it take

673
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160
somebody to get to the level to
do that?

674
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,680
Because you have it's it's you
have to practice on the rings,

675
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,360
right?
You just can't, Yeah.

676
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
They have, they make some tools
for it and stuff like the things

677
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,680
that'll assist you in doing
those things.

678
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,520
But like, OK, I don't know that
like I'm 64.

679
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,440
I don't know that that is in the
cards for me.

680
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Like without years of training
on an hourly basis.

681
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
OK.
Yeah, like I don't, I don't see

682
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,320
that happening.
So you have to have a specific

683
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,480
body makeup to be even geared to
accomplish those two positions.

684
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
I'm not saying that someone
who's 64 can't do those things.

685
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,320
I'm sure that there is a lot of
beasts out there that you can,

686
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
but they've also trained
gymnastics for a long period of

687
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,920
time.
Well, when you said that I don't

688
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120
have a picture of a big like
heavyweight looking dude as a

689
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,360
gymnast in my mind, right?
No, they're they're.

690
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,920
All 54 but like I like I said
like and they weigh, they weigh

691
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,160
100 and 25140 lbs but their
strength to weight ratio is just

692
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,920
out of this world.
Sure.

693
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Yeah, yeah.
So like rings, I think is one of

694
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,680
those impressive.
It is, man.

695
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Demonstrations of physical
strength and ability?

696
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Ridiculous.
Yeah, I knew the first time I

697
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,400
saw that guy on the rings, I'm
like, I would never cross him

698
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,280
ever.
Pop your head off like a zit.

699
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,080
You know, like you said, his arm
strength was just massive.

700
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Yeah.
This is these are these are the

701
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,960
exercises they talk about.
We can just, you know, OK, the

702
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,640
insanity of of.
OK, so the thing that I like to

703
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320
do incorporate with my clients
is not I don't, I don't do a lot

704
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,400
of like ring like rings, like in
the way that the like gymnasts

705
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,080
do.
I'll do ring pull ups and ring

706
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,680
dips and stuff like that.
But I like to do parallets.

707
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,320
So those are like the parallel
bars.

708
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360
And so mine mine that I built
some out of PVC pipes and mine

709
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
are about 16 inches off the
ground.

710
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,040
So they give you plenty of space
for like the L sits and kind of

711
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,240
like the transition from the L
sit to the do like the same hold

712
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
and up into like a shoulder
stand or even a handstand if

713
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040
you're really strong.
But that is a really great place

714
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400
for, I'm sorry to interrupt
normal people who want to just

715
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680
improve their athleticism and
physical strength to start

716
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600
without having to get specific
gymnastics equipment or do

717
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320
things that are like completely
outside of the the realm of

718
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,520
possibility.
I put up a like a, a bunch of

719
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480
videos on my, on my YouTube that
are like all the like the P bar

720
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,520
pairlet, like entry level
workouts.

721
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,880
But there's, there's a ton of
people like gymnastics bodies

722
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280
and probably the guy who was
just on that, that video that

723
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,040
sell like little handbooks on
how to like build up to your

724
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,280
first plant or build up to your
hand stand on the parallets.

725
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,760
And those can be really fun to
train in conjunction with

726
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960
another, like with strength
training and cardio programs.

727
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,920
But they're like skill based.
You know, a lot of like, I would

728
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,320
even say pull ups are skill
based.

729
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360
Yeah, like you do.
The more you do of them, the

730
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
better you get at them, more so
than just like building a big

731
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640
debt deadlift.
That's true because I never did

732
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760
pull ups for I hadn't done pull
ups for years and years and

733
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,480
years and the first time I went
to suffer city the the very

734
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280
first day was like we're doing
pull ups and I'm like, look at

735
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
the pull up.
I'm like serious and I pulled

736
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,800
off like 23 and I was like, holy
shit, I could do 23 pull ups at

737
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,000
fucking 54 years old.
Like it blew my mind because I

738
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,280
didn't I didn't realize, right,
because just it's just orange

739
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600
theory and orange theory is not
really built as a workout to to

740
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,040
give you tons of strength,
right?

741
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,240
They're trying to say they're
high rocks.

742
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320
They're high rocks training Now
I'm like, you're not shut up.

743
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,680
You're not high rocks training.
Do you do you know how high

744
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,440
rocks stands for?
No.

745
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,040
Please share.
It's called, it's hybrid rock

746
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,560
stars.
And I'm, I'm going to have to

747
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,880
insist that people when talking
about high rocks to say hybrid

748
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,560
rock stars because it just
sounds so dorky when you say

749
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,120
that.
OK, so a hybrid rock star

750
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600
training is now at Orange Theory
Fitness, which I don't really

751
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,960
get because Suffer City was all
about what was it again, hybrid

752
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,639
Rockstar training.
And like you're pushing sleds,

753
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,239
you're doing, you're pulling the
rope from the ground.

754
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,840
Like you're laying on the
ground, laying flat on the

755
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,639
ground with the rope.
And you got to you got to pull

756
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,360
yourself up with just your arms
and wrists all the way to the

757
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,199
top.
You're doing, you're doing

758
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,520
squats, front squats, back
squats with the bars.

759
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239
You're doing power cleans.
You're doing half cleans, you're

760
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,440
doing jump boxes.
You're, you're, you're, you're

761
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520
got a 30 LB medicine ball.
Drop it to a squat.

762
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,120
And then and you know these
Nate, right?

763
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,320
And then you, you rise up.
Balls watch that bad.

764
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,239
Boy, yeah, you have to get it at
the thing, catch it and go back

765
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,520
all the way down.
That shit doesn't compare to

766
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Orangetheory.
I was having a good conversation

767
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,520
with Lee, one of the trainers, a
couple days ago and I'm like,

768
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,760
and she's like, well, it's, you
know, this is more the endurance

769
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,800
side.
And you know, I'm like, I get

770
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,080
that, but it's, I've done them
both, like I've done them both.

771
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080
And to me, Suffer City is up
here.

772
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Then you got Orangetheory, then
you got F-45, then you got D1.

773
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,080
And I tried them all and the
hardest by far was Suffer City.

774
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,760
Michael attested that Mike
thought Suffer City kicked his

775
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,080
ass.
Of course, he was just dreaming

776
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,040
about it through my.
My life because I feel like

777
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,720
Suffer city also.
I never trained there, but I

778
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,120
thought a couple of people who
have gone through and what they,

779
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,840
it seems like what they do is
they have the, the they kind of

780
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,720
have like the CrossFit box with
like the high rocks, the hybrid

781
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,680
rock stars training and then
kind of how many things in

782
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,960
between.
So they can do a lot more stuff

783
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,360
and they don't seem like they're
completely pigeonholed into one

784
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840
training methodology.
They can make it really hard.

785
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Yeah, they're absolutely not
because you still have the

786
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,400
treadmill.
You still have their treadmill's

787
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,000
the the Groovy 1, right?
Yeah, it's just a flat 1.

788
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,520
It's a Groovy.
One, they have your face on the

789
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,680
ground.
Right.

790
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
They have the wind bikes, so
they don't have just stationary

791
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,360
bikes, they have the wind bikes.
Where you doing this and the

792
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,160
wind is circulating in your
face?

793
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,160
I got one of those my garage,
and I think that's my best

794
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,760
fitness investment ever.
Those those things are harder

795
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,800
than they than you think they
are.

796
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160
When I first got there, like,
you know, 10 years orange 3,

797
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,080
this shit's going to be enough,
man.

798
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,200
That kicked my ass the first
day.

799
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Like it kicked my ass like I was
sore for days.

800
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,320
Even though I pulled off the 23
pull ups, I was still sore for

801
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,960
days.
I still went back the next day

802
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,880
because, you know, that's just
my stupidity.

803
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080
But and then I, I get like 10
weeks, 2 weeks into it.

804
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,400
This one guy ran into Nicki and
I, we were that's cost for

805
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
something.
And you know, I'm low key when I

806
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,960
go work out, I have my, my, you
know, my I'm here to work

807
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,320
outlook, right?
And so I'm not very

808
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,280
approachable.
People would think and ran into

809
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640
this guy at Costco or something
and he starts just showering me

810
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840
with accolades.
But he's telling Nikki like this

811
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640
guy showed up and stuff.
So you were like, who's this?

812
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,920
And then he's just, he's balling
out.

813
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,760
He's like he's, he's maintaining
with all of us.

814
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,760
And we know all he did was
orange tree because he told us

815
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,400
that It's like, this is crazy.
And I'm like, I'm thinking, no,

816
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,320
this shit kicked my ass.
There's no way.

817
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,400
I was gassing all the day.
Like the whole thing.

818
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
I was gassed.
When you push the sled the first

819
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000
time 100 yards or what?
100 yard, 100 feet.

820
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,360
Oh my God, that that's like, and
they got to pull it back and

821
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,680
they got to push it again.
I'm like, oh fuck this, this is

822
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,760
crazy.
You got to come over to one of

823
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,120
my savage Saturday workouts.
I know it's hard because

824
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Saturdays are open house days
and things like that.

825
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400
But sooner or later, sooner or
later, I'll get there.

826
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,560
But it's only say it's 6:30 in
the morning.

827
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,320
You can.
You're not open house 6. 30 I

828
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,440
know, but that means I got to
get up at. 5 We do a lot of like

829
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,800
I used to do a lot of truck
pulls there because we just put

830
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,200
the hook people.
I saw that and now we hook

831
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,320
people up to the other people
because when I have eight

832
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360
people, I got to have like I, I
got to put them together or

833
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,040
something like that.
So I would do like, I'll hook

834
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,640
them to there.
So someone's leaning back and

835
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
like giving you weight and you
got a back pedal against it.

836
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,240
So like top favorite leg
exercises of all time?

837
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,880
A backwards sled.
Yeah, because it doesn't put any

838
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,240
stress on your spine.
You can train it because you

839
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,920
have bad knees.
And what's cool about it is that

840
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,720
every single Rep is that what's
called a terminal knee

841
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,560
extension.
So it's like that last little

842
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,280
bit of a leg extension.
And what's cool about that is

843
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360
that it's training your anterior
tibialis, the front of your shin

844
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,920
muscle, which is very healthy,
which is very helpful for your

845
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960
knee health.
And it's training your knees and

846
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,560
your glute medias.
So you're so you're building up

847
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,400
big strong quads without having
to do the negative, the

848
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520
eccentric portion like you would
do with a squat.

849
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,480
So without putting a lot of
stress on your back, without

850
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,960
putting a lot of like recovery
debt into your workout, you

851
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,360
build up this crazy burn in your
legs.

852
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,720
Because anyone who's got big
quads, the one thing that tells

853
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,200
me about them is that they are
OK with suffering.

854
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880
They are good with it.
You don't have big legs without

855
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
suffering.
And so if you do that, you do

856
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,520
that for long periods of time,
you get you get great ankle

857
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,480
strength, great knee strength,
great low back strength and you

858
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,640
don't put yourself in recovery
debt.

859
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600
That's a huge win, massive ROI
exercise for me.

860
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Right on well that and the fact
that that the legs drive

861
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,480
everything so the stronger your
legs are right, the better your

862
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
life is.
I learned that a long time ago

863
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,360
that that you, you can have the
biggest, you know, upper body in

864
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,120
the world.
You can bench £500, all this

865
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,520
kind of jazz, but it's your legs
that drive everything, your legs

866
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,440
and.
Your thighs save lives, baby.

867
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680
I'm on your, I'm on your, I'm on
your Instagram.

868
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,480
I want to find, I want to find
the truck pull because I want to

869
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,320
show people like I've seen it,
I've seen you do it.

870
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680
It's freaking insane.
It's so fun.

871
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,640
It's just like, and then people
will stop and be like, do you

872
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,160
need help?
And I'm like, no, I'm training.

873
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,280
Right.
Well, one of the things that you

874
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,920
said, Nate, about protecting
your back.

875
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:31,400
What are the top two things that
you think you do differently

876
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
than, you know, Chris just
mentioned four or five different

877
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:37,760
things that he's done in his
life that are, you know,

878
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,880
national campaign, so to speak,
for lack of a better term,

879
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,720
right?
You're an independent, super

880
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,520
passionate about what you do.
You have years of experience.

881
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120
What do you feel like you give
your clients that they're not

882
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
getting at a place like what
Chris is going to?

883
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
That's, you know, a chain
operation.

884
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,240
I would say like two things.
They're both pretty related.

885
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:00,520
Number one is I don't program
like stuff because I'm don't.

886
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,760
Zoom in.
Don't zoom in.

887
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,160
I won't.
You can.

888
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,240
You can swipe.
It gets weirder.

889
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,120
I know, I know.
Like, but I don't give clients

890
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,640
things for the sake of like
getting them, getting them sore

891
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,240
or tired.
I don't treat soreness and

892
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,440
tiredness as training metrics
for a successful workout.

893
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,120
I think of those things as like
they're byproducts of just not

894
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,080
having done the thing before.
Chris said he was super sore

895
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,280
after having done his workout,
probably just because he hasn't

896
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,400
done it.
There's this principle called

897
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,760
the specific adaptations to
impose demands the said

898
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120
principle.
And if you like, if I take the

899
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440
best athlete in the world and I
have them go out and do 600

900
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,040
lunges, they're going to be
super sore.

901
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,920
Sure, even if they're the
greatest athletes off of all the

902
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,480
time.
So I, I always try to keep that

903
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,640
in mind.
I'm not, I, I want to make

904
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,000
people better and not lazy or
not a not a not tired or sore.

905
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,280
And then I always, always,
always think a lot about ROI,

906
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600
what is the return on my
investment for this workout?

907
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,280
And especially as I've gotten a
little bit older and, you know,

908
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,560
dealing with my clientele that's
getting a little bit older, too.

909
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,480
This.
Yeah, it's a good one because I

910
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,600
can stick myself with a needle
here.

911
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,800
Ow why are you doing that?
I put a chip clip on.

912
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,120
It's my, it's my chip, my needle
chip clip.

913
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,960
OK.
So everything that I do, I'm

914
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,040
trying to run through the filter
of like, what is the best, where

915
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,080
is the lowest risk with the
highest reward on any particular

916
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,880
exercise.
So there's always like it's

917
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,880
probably 8 or 10 exercises that
I think of that really I can

918
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,680
encompass that for me.
And I just have, I have people

919
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,720
do those exercises most of the
time.

920
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,400
And there's always a like, you
know, some sort of dumbbell row,

921
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120
but you can do a million
different variations of it.

922
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,400
So I like to mix with the
variations, but I'm not having

923
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,280
people do dumbbell snatches
overhead, for example.

924
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,840
I don't think the risk really
not is there.

925
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,320
Like like is good for the reward
there.

926
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,240
Most people don't have great
thoracic mobility doing

927
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,720
something explosive up and
overhead.

928
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,120
It just puts a lot of stress on
the shoulder in the whole

929
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,280
system.
So if you're not completely

930
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,040
locked in both mentally and
physically, maybe you're a

931
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,000
little bit tired, maybe your
shoulder's been bugging you a

932
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,840
little bit and now your shoulder
is sore for three months.

933
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,360
Like that wasn't worth it for
that.

934
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,280
That's going to be my question a
lot before you get too far away

935
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,240
from both of those subjects, how
do you balance, you know, like

936
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,640
you said, he was sore
afterwards.

937
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,320
How do you balance how far you
can push someone versus how much

938
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440
recovery they need before they
can do that particular exercise

939
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,200
again?
That's, I think that's all been

940
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,160
a lot of just experience and
I've been now personal training

941
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,760
for 17 years.
That's what I want.

942
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,800
To tell when people are are
getting to the point where I

943
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
can't push them more.
I also have this, this thing I

944
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,480
call the rule of 12.
So if I'm doing a super set, so

945
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,560
let's say I'm super setting like
a leg move and an upper body

946
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,760
move, I don't want to do 2 moves
that are both 8 out of 10.

947
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,000
I don't want to do like like an
L sit, pull up and a front

948
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,800
squat, something like that.
That's like both of those

949
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,760
exercises are both like very,
very challenging, like both

950
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,720
neurologically and physically
and putting those pair together

951
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,080
like you can get away with it
sometimes, you know, like most

952
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,240
maybe those are both sevens and
now we're doing a 14.

953
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,760
I think that's a little too
high.

954
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,640
I would prefer to split it.
Maybe do the L sip pull up with

955
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,960
like a a single leg variation
and then the front squat with

956
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160
like a single arm cable
variation.

957
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,520
So it's just a little bit more
like flexible with their, like

958
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000
they're not having to put so
much stress into their central

959
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,000
nervous system and feeling like
they're now burnt out, beat up

960
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
and they leave the gym feeling
worse than when they got there.

961
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,960
I'm one of my big goals is
whenever someone trains with me,

962
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,880
whenever I teach a class, I want
people to leave feeling better

963
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,240
than when they got there.
It's OK if you throw up.

964
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,200
It's OK if you like you get a
little like, you know, a little

965
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,720
nauseous sometimes, especially
we're pushing the pace on the

966
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,160
assault bike or whatever, but I
want you to leave feeling better

967
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,760
than when you got there.
And sometimes, you know, like

968
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,760
that's not always going to be
the case.

969
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Your first leg day back after
four months off is never going

970
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,240
to feel that great.
You got to get through that that

971
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,440
piece.
So like all this stuff I feel

972
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,040
like is is take with a grain of
salt, but that's kind of my

973
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440
philosophy when coaching
somebody.

974
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,400
OK, so now the other side of
that, that Chris and I were

975
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,960
talking about on the last
podcast that we waited for you

976
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,320
to show up that I know is near
and dear to your heart, that is

977
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,920
not to a lot of other fitness
programs is nutrition.

978
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,880
So we have a new food pyramid,
right?

979
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,400
Talk to us about that.
Yeah, I'm so I think that number

980
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
like #1 I'm, I'm very
contrarian.

981
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,800
So people are on both sides are
like, oh, I love, I love the new

982
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,320
food pyramid, more meat,
whatever else.

983
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,560
The sweet people are like that's
too much fat in the whatever.

984
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
It doesn't matter.
No one's going to do the food

985
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,600
pyramid.
No one's ever done the food

986
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,720
pyramid.
So like, you know, if I look

987
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,920
some of the stats up and
basically it is these are self

988
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,440
reported, but the amount of
people who were getting the

989
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,840
required amounts of fruits and
veggies either on the food

990
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,200
pyramid, the original 1 or my
plate, less than 1% of people

991
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,040
were getting that.
Really.

992
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,840
So like everyone can get all
butthurt about it, but it

993
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,600
doesn't matter that no one's
doing it.

994
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,240
The one thing that I will say is
that like we're kind of we're

995
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,280
bringing back in protein at
every meal.

996
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,160
And while RFK Junior is like
we're going to end the war on

997
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,520
protein, there's no war on
protein.

998
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,200
There's protein in like tortilla
chips.

999
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,400
Now it's fine.
Like there's proteins in like

1000
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,400
marshmallows and breakfast
cereal.

1001
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,120
There's, there's plenty of ways
to get protein, but I like that

1002
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,480
there's now there's a focus on
protein with every meal.

1003
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,080
I think that's important.
That's always one of my like my

1004
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560
big rules for nutrition.
I like to really simplify things

1005
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,960
down and one of them is it's
crazy.

1006
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,520
If it doesn't have protein in
it, don't eat it.

1007
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,680
It's right.
Don't if it doesn't have

1008
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,800
protein, don't eat it.
Like so if it's like, obviously

1009
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,920
like mashed potatoes is is not
protein.

1010
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,600
But if you're eating mashed
potatoes and chicken and

1011
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,520
broccoli, that's a protein meal.
Great.

1012
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Eat that, right.
You know, don't go out and eat a

1013
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,080
bowl full of cereal.
Not really, no.

1014
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,400
OK, not in a bowl full of.
Cereal.

1015
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,720
We gotta eat a bowl full of
cereal.

1016
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,520
Oh, OK.
I I don't, I don't know.

1017
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,880
I just, I thought it did for
some reason.

1018
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,400
Do you know?
Broccoli is man made.

1019
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Yep.
Is it really?

1020
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,400
I was asking Chris down on my
fingers.

1021
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,000
You did?
Yeah.

1022
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,760
Oh, I didn't know that.
I got I got some man made

1023
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,840
broccoli in my garden outside.
It's just basically mini

1024
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,640
cabbage.
Oh, I.

1025
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,000
Thought it was.
I thought it was crossed with

1026
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:58,120
with cauliflower.
It is cabbage and cauliflower.

1027
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,760
And we turned it green.
OK who?

1028
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,800
Who the hell had the idea of
making broccoli, man?

1029
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,080
Like, wait, let's come up with
something kids are going to

1030
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,240
hate.
Right.

1031
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,120
What do you got?
And I meant when I was peas.

1032
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Man, I love it now.
Yeah, Jake, Jake hate agreements

1033
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640
with his kids to the point that
he would make himself gag and

1034
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,280
and and spit it out.
Little man hates peas to the

1035
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,760
point that he told he told
scouter's mom at one point in

1036
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,720
time when he gets 6, he'll be a
big boy.

1037
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,920
He'll eat some peas.
So on his 6th birthday, like

1038
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,440
dinner like really sky she fed
him peas and it's the same thing

1039
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,280
that Jake did, man.
He started start gagging himself

1040
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,640
and and I was like there's so
many other vegetables that he'll

1041
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,560
eat like just feed a peas.
My kids love peas and they want

1042
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,320
me to feed them like the frozen
peas.

1043
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,880
They don't want me to them up.
They want frozen peas in a bowl.

1044
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,760
Yeah.
Why Frozen?

1045
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560
What did you do to them when
they were young, Nate?

1046
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,240
I don't know if I just made them
eat the food that I ate.

1047
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,520
I didn't give them anything
special.

1048
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Well, we did the same thing.
I mean, I don't know what Skyler

1049
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,960
did because I don't.
We don't really have them.

1050
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,840
We never had it.
Well, we did for a while, but I

1051
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,600
just have them for breakfast now
and it's the hardest thing in

1052
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,040
the world to get him to eat, so
I begot.

1053
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,320
I've been getting him to eat a
banana and peanut butter toast.

1054
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,600
Perfect.
Because he just, you know, like

1055
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,520
I got sausage dog.
No, you know, he doesn't like

1056
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,800
eggs, at least over here, you
know, so it's it's a bagel of

1057
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,480
cream cheese and I'm like, did
you need more protein?

1058
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880
So I started doing Bagel of
peanut Butter, and then I got

1059
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,360
bananas.
I'm like, but he goes through

1060
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,000
cycles, right?
Every for a week.

1061
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,600
He'll like bananas and he won't
like them anymore.

1062
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,760
Yeah, I think that's a kid
thing, right?

1063
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Like my kids like, hey, you guys
like this last time They're

1064
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,680
like, I hate that now.
Yeah, since when?

1065
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,760
They're like since right this
second, bring me chicken Nuggets

1066
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,280
just started.
Like OK, how about no chicken

1067
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Nuggets and that's all the food
you get and no snacks from that

1068
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,360
for a week because I'm mad.
Right, right, I tell him.

1069
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,240
I'll turn the teeth off if you
don't eat the peanut butter

1070
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,600
toast and bananas, but I'm
turning TV off.

1071
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,120
You're going to sit on the
kitchen island until it's time

1072
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,480
to go to school and do nothing,
he looks at.

1073
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,760
Me, I'm like, I'm serious.
I'm serious, low man.

1074
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,760
And he'll pick up his fork and
eat his banana and then OK, now

1075
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,480
the toast.
Let's get peanut butter.

1076
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,720
I know you need the protein.
Eat it.

1077
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,920
OK, so I, I I think that peanut
butter toast with banana, great

1078
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,320
breakfast for him.
No problem.

1079
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,520
I got to I'm going to die on
this hill.

1080
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Peanut butter's not protein.
A hard stop.

1081
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,800
It's not protein.
Peanutter fat.

1082
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,800
And not only is it a fat, it
doesn't even have a complete

1083
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,400
amino acid profile, so it can't
even doesn't even qualify as

1084
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,680
being in the ballpark of
protein.

1085
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,560
I do.
I really like to my whole life.

1086
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,400
I you too, right, Mike?
You thought I was protein?

1087
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,280
He just blew me away.
That's why I said talk to me.

1088
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,600
So fuck me dude.
Sorry, here's the thing.

1089
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,480
Here's the thing.
Here's.

1090
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,240
What you can do so?
Peanut butter.

1091
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:37,640
There's this.
There's this powdered peanut

1092
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,600
butter called PB2PB Fit.
Yep, I got it.

1093
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:42,560
Yep, take that and mix it with a
little bit of Greek yogurt.

1094
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,600
OK, now it's a protein source
because that like it has a

1095
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,120
little bit more protein in it
because the fat is was way

1096
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,720
reduced.
And then the Greek yogurt has

1097
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,000
protein in it and then smear
that on a bagel and it's like a

1098
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,360
nice creamy.
If you take the powder and mix

1099
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,040
it into Greek yogurt and like
whiskey really good.

1100
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,920
It becomes this like nice
whipped topping textures.

1101
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,720
So I'll just tell them it's a
different peanut butter then

1102
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:01,960
because I tell them it's Greek
yogurt.

1103
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Peanut peanut butter frosting.
OK, so let me.

1104
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,040
Ask you this then yeah, go
ahead, Mike.

1105
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,640
We we thought that peanut butter
was semi healthy for us, right?

1106
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,400
It is it not healthy at all?
Does it provide really no

1107
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,880
benefit other than to turn a lot
of things turn into sugar that

1108
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,720
people don't realize, right?
Is that one of them?

1109
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,560
No, I would say it's very hard
to convert fats and proteins

1110
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,880
into sugars.
It's really easy to convert

1111
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,720
carbs.
It costs a lot of our like our

1112
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,880
bodies like processes to convert
them.

1113
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,480
I will say peanut butters are
seem to be a little bit more

1114
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,080
like mold heavy than almonds.
So that's like kind of a, a

1115
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,080
negative.
They are also really high in fat

1116
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,840
and and while that's not
necessarily a bad thing, a lot

1117
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,480
of people like fat and get
needle need it in their diets.

1118
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000
It's extremely easy to overeat
fat.

1119
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880
Like if you track your calories
at any time like and you're

1120
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,600
like, OK, I'm trying to get 90
grams of fat today.

1121
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,280
It's so easy to go to 140 in
like a meal.

1122
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,480
You eat one rib eye and then all
of a sudden you're like, how am

1123
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,440
I at 120 already?
It is extremely easy.

1124
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,160
So when I have, whenever I have
people who are having a hard

1125
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,000
time losing, losing weight or
they're like, man, I'm like,

1126
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,080
just I'm doing, I'm eating
really clean, but I'm not

1127
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,160
getting the results I want.
Most of the time there's it's

1128
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,240
two culprits.
They're not sleeping correctly

1129
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,480
or they're eating too much fat.
And I just see that over and

1130
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
over and over and over again.
So I don't want to say that

1131
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,320
like, no, there's no benefit to
it because there's like it's,

1132
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,480
it's got nutrients in it, it's
got vitamins and minerals.

1133
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,080
OK, what if somebody comes and
asks you the opposite question

1134
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,000
like myself?
Sometimes I have trouble putting

1135
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,280
on weight, right?
I'll go through periods where, I

1136
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,480
mean, you know, there's women
out there screaming at me right

1137
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,320
now, but I will actually eat
what I want forever and I'll be

1138
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,400
I'll lose weight at the same
time, right?

1139
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,800
I know part of it's stress.
Sometimes sleep is another one.

1140
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,080
You know, I go through periods
where I don't sleep so well.

1141
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,800
But what would you advise to
somebody that came to you and

1142
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
said I have trouble putting on
weight?

1143
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,480
What do I eat then?
Tacos.

1144
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,800
Lots and lots of tacos.
That's healthy, right?

1145
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Yeah, healthy tacos can be
healthy.

1146
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640
No, I thank you.
No, I'm just throwing that in

1147
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,040
there.
Yeah, No, I think they're like,

1148
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,480
I think there's a a couple
things.

1149
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,880
Number one is that I think this
idea of like bulking and adding

1150
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,600
an extra 500 to 1000 calories
every single day to gain weight

1151
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,240
is not ideal.
When they show that, we look at

1152
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,120
studies about people gaining
muscle.

1153
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,720
You don't need much more than
your maintenance level of

1154
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,680
calories to gain muscle to gain
weight.

1155
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
We can do that easily.
Stack at the peanut butter, a

1156
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,640
little bit of ice cream after
dinner.

1157
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Just make sure you're getting
some snacks in.

1158
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,440
Stay and stay in bed all the
time.

1159
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,440
That's a great way to gain
weight.

1160
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Drink a bunch of milk.
And be and be really lazy so.

1161
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,400
I can't have that limits me
there.

1162
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,480
All right, well, just like just
eggnog, that's probably not

1163
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:37,760
dairy.
But if you're trying to gain

1164
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,960
muscle and gain like good
weight, a lot of times that's

1165
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,680
going to be focusing in on your
pre and post workout nutrition

1166
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,200
and making sure those are low
fat meals, but high carb, high

1167
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,400
protein meals.
So usually like a lot of times,

1168
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
like that's where the biggest
meals of the day will come from

1169
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,040
because pre workout you're now
fueling your body, giving

1170
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,240
yourself the nutrients it needs,
the the glycogen in your muscles

1171
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:03,400
to be able to go exercise.
And then post workout, you've

1172
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,840
now burned off that muscle
glycogen.

1173
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,520
So you're refilling those
stores.

1174
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,680
And then what's cool about the
post workout window is I love

1175
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,520
this is that when you, when you
work out and then you eat most

1176
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,160
of your carbs, you're starting
to train your body that when we

1177
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,720
eat carbs, it goes to muscle.
That's where we put it, rather

1178
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,760
than let's goes to storage, just
generally.

1179
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,600
Yeah.
So when I get the working out, I

1180
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,040
should eat, I should eat, I
should eat.

1181
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Say that again.
It should be carbs when it get

1182
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,200
that worked out carbs and carbs
and proteins is is probably your

1183
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,080
ideal limited fats because you
don't want to slow digestion

1184
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,760
down too much and that post
workout you want to give

1185
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,760
yourself the like the ability to
digest and put those nutrients

1186
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,760
where they go pretty quickly.
OK.

1187
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,000
So my top carbs I didn't you
didn't ask, but I'll tell you

1188
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,240
anyways.
Yeah, I was.

1189
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,480
I was going to go there.
Potatoes number one Potatoes and

1190
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,680
sweet potatoes number one for.
Sure, I love potatoes.

1191
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,760
Me too, from the motherland.
I can tell from the my love.

1192
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,320
Of the motherland with a potato
famine we live in potatoes all

1193
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,960
the.
Time, I think we can't do rice,

1194
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,480
but rice I think is is like a
pretty innocuous carb.

1195
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,920
It doesn't doesn't do much to
you, doesn't keep people like

1196
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,360
too floated.
Big fan of what, Mike?

1197
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Big fan of Rice.
Rice.

1198
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,800
I like Jasmine rice.
Oh, Jasmine rice, Jasmine rice

1199
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,800
is the best you're going to do
it that long grain Jasmine.

1200
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,640
I also been like trying to make
like the black rice, the

1201
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,720
forbidden rice, but I but making
that into your rice cooker, not

1202
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,200
so great.
You would have learned about

1203
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,560
making, you know, I'm sorry,
this is the total squirrel

1204
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,520
moment when I learned about
making rice in a rice cooker.

1205
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,840
As soon as it's done, take all
the rice out because then the

1206
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,320
pan is that has that doesn't
have rice stuck to it.

1207
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,800
Like we would just make rice and
then we'd scoop out for the

1208
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
meal, right?
And then let it sit and the

1209
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,960
whole thing's coming, right?
Take it all out at once and

1210
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,320
you're good, man.
Do that in any cooking utensil

1211
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,800
you're using, all the time.
Always.

1212
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,800
OK, that's just the way you
cook.

1213
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,800
Oh wow, I didn't know we'll have
that.

1214
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,400
Sounds like a way to get more
pans dirty, which you know.

1215
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,720
Right, cooking.
We're gonna have another

1216
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:57,760
episode.
Cooking tips from Mike.

1217
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,680
That's growing up with Mama Kate
and keeping things organized and

1218
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,560
not having all this stuff in the
end.

1219
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,600
Yeah, yeah.
OK.

1220
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,800
Sounds very organized.
Yeah, I took you off.

1221
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,240
I took off.
Your no, we're on fruits.

1222
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Fruits.
Fruits is number 3 for me.

1223
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,320
OK, OK, so potatoes, right?
Pacific fruits or any fruits?

1224
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Nate, do you have super fruits
that you like to?

1225
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
If we're going to if we're going
to put something in a superfood

1226
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,120
category, which I think is
largely marketing and bullshit,

1227
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,920
pomegranates, acai berries,
they're not super fruits.

1228
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,560
There's a lot of vitamins and
minerals in them, but

1229
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,840
blueberries have got to be up
there.

1230
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,520
They're just so good.
They're so hot, like so rich in

1231
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,400
antioxidants, and they're so
limited in calories and sugar

1232
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,360
and they're just delicious, so.
Can I ask?

1233
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,000
You these are always one of the
best ways to go.

1234
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,040
OK.
So generally if I have someone

1235
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,720
who's trying to get away from
from eating a lot of sugar or

1236
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,600
trying to lose weight, I had
them stay away from the higher

1237
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,320
glycemic fruits.
That's the bananas, the

1238
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,000
pineapples, the mangoes.
Those are a little higher

1239
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,960
glycemic, but I think grapes.
But I but like berries, apples,

1240
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,480
oranges.
You can't go wrong with those

1241
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,920
guys.
Like having those for lunch, you

1242
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,000
know, just like eating some
protein, apples and oranges.

1243
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,800
It's just like that's the way
God intended us to eat food, you

1244
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,840
know?
Agree.

1245
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Yeah, yeah.
Apple a day.

1246
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,680
Does something support?
So if I so if I ate a medley of

1247
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560
of pineapple chunks, watermelon
chunks, and blueberries and

1248
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,480
strawberries every afternoon, is
that a good or bad thing?

1249
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:20,120
Are you having?
Protein with it.

1250
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:25,280
It's my afternoon snack.
So is that a no or is that a

1251
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:25,960
yes?
I can't tell.

1252
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,360
That's a that's a no, it's my
well before before that or

1253
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,240
typically before that, it will
have actually, I'm sorry, I have

1254
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,520
lunch and that's my afternoon
snack.

1255
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,080
And then a couple hours later
I'll have I'll have a protein

1256
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,880
based chicken.
Rice, what's your lunch?

1257
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,360
It's typically some type of
chicken, tuna, rice, tortilla,

1258
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,040
cheese.
So I don't like, I don't like

1259
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,480
the necessarily the good or bad
label, the cleaner dirty, the

1260
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,080
really binary like you're
eating, you're eating Whole

1261
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Foods that are nutrient rich,
antioxidant rich.

1262
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,920
That's great.
What I would love to see is

1263
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
maybe add into like, you know,
just even like 1/2 scoop of

1264
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,040
protein or something like that,
just on the side.

1265
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,320
Because what's happening is now
you're, you're increasing your,

1266
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,680
your glycogen in your blood so
your blood sugar goes up.

1267
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,720
OK.
And blood sugar is the key to

1268
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,320
opening up cell doors, right?
So if all you have is blood

1269
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,280
sugar or triglycerides fats
floating around, it's easy to

1270
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,880
open up fat doors and stuff
stuff into fat storage.

1271
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,640
Oh no shit.
But if you have proteins and

1272
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,440
amino acids floating in the
blood as as well, it's easier to

1273
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,600
open up muscle cell doors and
pack those into muscle.

1274
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,880
So if I sprinkle that's what PB
2?

1275
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,000
Doesn't have protein?
Don't eat it.

1276
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,920
Right, so if I sprinkle with PB2
it would be fine?

1277
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,480
If I sprinkle the PB 2 is a
pretty low protein.

1278
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,800
But like, yeah, get a, get a,
get 1/2 scoop of half scoop of

1279
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,720
whey protein, a scoop of PB2 and
then that's, that's your little

1280
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,560
drink with it.
That'd be amazing.

1281
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,040
It'd be a great way to add some
size Mike to your question.

1282
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,960
You keep pushing this dairy on
me, though.

1283
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,040
See, I'm a talent, Nate.
I can't what was the dairy I.

1284
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,920
Can't have weigh anything.
They will have they have the

1285
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,800
beef protein isolate.
I don't give a shit.

1286
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,920
You OK?
You see?

1287
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,720
A lot of things plant based
protein.

1288
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:07,760
Come on.
A lot of these questions I'm

1289
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,320
asking is because I have like
what I would call a pedestrian

1290
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,600
knowledge of this shit, right?
It's just from listening to

1291
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,200
podcast, so I have different
opinions.

1292
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,280
When you were on the first time,
everything you said made total

1293
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,240
sense, right?
And today it's like, what are

1294
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,800
you talking?
About what the fuck no.

1295
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,200
No man, that's why we want on,
you know?

1296
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,920
How do you feel about what the
news was that came out?

1297
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,200
And I like your answer in that
I'm just going to do what I've

1298
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440
always been doing because nobody
paid attention to that shit

1299
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,680
anyway.
But but like so the so beef

1300
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,560
protein isolate is a good non
dairy type of of protein.

1301
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Couple tips on that.
If you're going to get beef

1302
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,680
protein isolate, always get
chocolate because it's kind of a

1303
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,760
rich mocha Y flavor.
It's much richer protein than or

1304
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,520
a whey.
Do not get the watermelon

1305
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,720
flavored beef isolate.
You're going to think I should

1306
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,680
get watermelon flavored beef
isolate.

1307
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,680
It's a good idea.
Do not do that under any

1308
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,280
circumstances, Mike.
OK.

1309
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,240
Don't do it.
And then the other thing that it

1310
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,360
could be good is an egg white
protein and that they there's

1311
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,080
this stuff called muscle egg,
which sells gallon jugs of like

1312
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,880
of egg of pasteurized egg whites
that you could literally just

1313
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,440
drink like a cup of it is like
30 guys of protein.

1314
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,720
And if you get the cake batter
one, it's legitimately just the

1315
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,680
it's delicious.
But check that out.

1316
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,760
That's a that'd be a good way to
gain some some lean muscle mass

1317
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,680
too.
Awesome muscle egg.

1318
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,320
This episode is brought to you
by.

1319
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:38,000
Muscle Egg.
So we had we had this guy on the

1320
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,480
show a couple episodes ago.
I don't know if you know who he

1321
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,360
is.
Apache Joe.

1322
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,560
You know, Apache Joe is Snake.
I'm familiar show Apache

1323
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:52,080
Junction fit guy, fit guy.
He's actually running his fourth

1324
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,040
full marathon, water in his
mouth the entire time and a

1325
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,240
piece of tape over his mouth
that says Apache Joe.

1326
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,160
Huh.
He, you guys would be like Ying

1327
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,720
and Yang, man.
Like from a physique standpoint,

1328
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
from a health standpoint, from
what you eat standpoint.

1329
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,160
Like I was trying to find
something on his, on his, on his

1330
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,360
Instagram where he's actually
just standing still.

1331
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,560
He's just, he's always moving.
I found him in a dad's group on

1332
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,280
Facebook.
I think.

1333
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,040
I think it's the same group that
you and I are in, but really,

1334
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,120
really cool dude, super nice
guy.

1335
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,800
I, I think I even mentioned
Mike, didn't I?

1336
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,840
Like we should have him and Nate
on at some point in time.

1337
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,360
You did.
I did because I think you guys

1338
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,480
would just, you guys would just
you, you just same cloth man.

1339
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,320
And he's that guy that he, yeah,
even.

1340
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,040
Fell out of my chair when he
said he ran that whole marathon

1341
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,240
with, yeah, he's like, you have
a crazy tape over my mouth to

1342
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,880
prove that, you know?
To do breathe.

1343
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,880
Water to nasal breathe like that
like that requires like a lot of

1344
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,200
diligent training.
That's amazing.

1345
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,640
I sleep with with mouth tape on
Sometimes you do and I try to,

1346
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,320
when I try to like when I do jiu
jitsu or when I do cardio, I try

1347
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,320
to breathe through my my nose as
much as I can.

1348
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,200
But at a certain point, like I
kind of just, I stopped being

1349
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,440
able to do that.
And he does it with water.

1350
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,720
He does it with water in his
mouth the whole race.

1351
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,760
And he was telling us how, yeah,
26.2 miles.

1352
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,440
He holds the same sip of water
in his mouth.

1353
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Yeah, yeah, there's, there's
waters.

1354
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,320
And he says Spartans did it.
He's like the Spartans were

1355
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,760
going 10 mile runs with water in
their mouth.

1356
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Like it's just, it's crazy.
It's it's some breathing science

1357
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,280
and and and I was like, dude,
that's I've tried it before, but

1358
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,680
with my asthma, it just, I
always end up having to open my

1359
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,480
mouth.
I just can't.

1360
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,880
I just and he's like, well, I
have asthma.

1361
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,120
I'm like OK that's cool, but I'm
not Apache Joe.

1362
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Some people are a bit different
though, you know, some like,

1363
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,920
right, you know, I like, I think
about David Goggins sometimes.

1364
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,040
Oh yeah, one of the best Brogan
episodes ever.

1365
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,000
That guy is like that guy.
Like on paper you're like, whoa,

1366
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,480
what a beast.
And then you're like, bro, you

1367
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,000
could have avoided all of that
trauma if you had just done

1368
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,360
like, a cursory Google search
about electrolytes.

1369
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Sure.
He's like, I'm, I'm going to run

1370
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,640
a marathon.
I poured broken glass into my

1371
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,160
shoes.
You're like, why would you do

1372
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,040
that?
Who are you trying to prove this

1373
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,160
to?
Himself?

1374
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,600
But.
Like, I don't know, like I just

1375
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,200
like again, like I always think
about the ROI, like what's like,

1376
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,360
what is the point of this?
What did you ever?

1377
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,520
Listen to him on Rogan.
Nate, not to interrupt you.

1378
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,760
I I apologize.
Talk over.

1379
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,080
Either I've heard clips I don't.
I don't listen to Rogan episodes

1380
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,560
because they're long and I don't
and they're long over 8.

1381
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Million people have listened to
his.

1382
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,440
If you listen, that's just don't
understand why he does it.

1383
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Yeah, just that particular
episode.

1384
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,600
And here's why, he admits over
and over and over again.

1385
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,760
I'm a dummy, right?
I could have done things way to

1386
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,600
your point.
I know I could have done things

1387
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,040
way easier.
But when you hear the beginning

1388
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,880
of his story and how he grew up.
I read his book.

1389
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,840
Yeah, he barely had a chance,
right?

1390
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,840
So he had just keeps admitting
all I knew how to do was

1391
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,240
overcome, right?
And he overcame in the only way

1392
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,480
he knew possible.
And it wasn't always the right

1393
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,720
thing, but his motivation and
his discipline is unmatched in

1394
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,600
my opinion.
I just don't want him to be 55

1395
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,440
and not be able to do anything
ever again because he just was

1396
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,760
like couldn't be bothered to
like do do something the right

1397
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,120
way or wear the right running
shoes.

1398
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,120
Sure, I'm running, I'm running a
race.

1399
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,520
Antivas like.
Why?

1400
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,040
Which is why I asked you the
question earlier.

1401
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,840
You know, how much credence to
you give to recovery versus

1402
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,720
pushing yourself to the limit,
right?

1403
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,000
Because the new, the new mindset
is we don't push ourselves to

1404
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,760
the limit or past, we push
ourselves 80% to the limit and

1405
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,880
we recover so that we can keep
doing it when we're 60, right?

1406
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,280
John Harbaugh spending £400 or.
400 squatting Squatting 450 lbs.

1407
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,840
63 years old. 8 times, I don't
know.

1408
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,160
I don't know the age because the
video didn't say the age.

1409
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,720
He's 60 right now.
He is, but I don't know the age

1410
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,160
of the video because he was, he
was.

1411
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,840
He was in the Ravens gear,
Ravens athletic room, whatever.

1412
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,200
That video was from this season.
Oh, OK, I didn't know I.

1413
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,080
Just I saw it.
I know what you're talking.

1414
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,520
About.
OK, cool.

1415
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,040
Yeah, right on.
But I think that like we like, I

1416
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,840
think we were so like everyone
was so intense for a minute with

1417
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,880
like CrossFit and pushing
yourself and puking, give

1418
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,480
yourself rhabdomyolysis.
And then we're shifting the

1419
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,160
needle way back to being like,
well, it's only cold plunge and

1420
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,120
only drink green tea and only go
to 80% because you can't.

1421
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560
But I also think there's like,
again, like I don't like these

1422
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,440
black and white like one side of
the other.

1423
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,640
I think you got to push yourself
sometimes and you got to also

1424
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,440
recover really hard.
So you have those really smart,

1425
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,320
smart times.
Like when I train, I called it

1426
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,520
the TEF method, the top end
failure training.

1427
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,800
So if let's say we're doing like
a, a pull down, just doing a

1428
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,600
pull down, OK, we'll do 12 reps,
then we'll do 10 reps then we'll

1429
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,920
do 8 reps something like that.
OK, first set, we'll do 100 lbs

1430
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,200
on the, on the 12 reps we could
have done another 8 or 10 reps

1431
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,680
no problem.
Second set, we're doing 10 reps

1432
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,080
and we're going to be doing 150
lbs OK, we got we got 10 reps We

1433
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,080
could have gotten 12 or 13.
And then on 8 reps we're going

1434
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,120
to go 180 lbs and we're going to
get we're going to get 7 and

1435
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,640
we're not going to quite get our
eight.

1436
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,320
And then we're going to go to
the top and we're going to do

1437
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,840
these small little baby reps all
we got.

1438
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,880
Got another six in there and
then we're done.

1439
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,080
You did 7 1/2 like real reps You
did like another seven like baby

1440
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,160
reps to the top.
And then all you did was you

1441
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,800
just like you.
It's like playing poker, right?

1442
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,320
You did the small blind on your
first couple sets, you did big

1443
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,160
blind, you did the flop and then
you went all in on your chips.

1444
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,920
And most people don't ever like
they've put, they go all in and

1445
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,680
they fold before they see the
end, the last card because they

1446
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,720
don't push themselves to those
last two or three reps.

1447
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,760
But like, so there's that side
where people, you see people

1448
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,520
benching 135 lbs for 10 reps
this year, next year, and the,

1449
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,640
and the following year, because
they never get pushed themselves

1450
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,160
to their limit and force their
body to change.

1451
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,280
And there's the other side where
people try to go up 50 lbs every

1452
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,520
single workout and end up
blowing out a rotator cuff.

1453
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,120
And the, and the answer, as
always, is somewhere in the

1454
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,920
middle where it's like, choose
your points, choose the

1455
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,360
intensity, do something hard.
But like, like I was talking

1456
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,120
about earlier, the human drags,
the sled drags.

1457
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,440
Those are high ROI things that
you can really fucking suffer

1458
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,000
during if you put your mind to
it, but are not going to destroy

1459
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,720
your body.
So that's like that's the

1460
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,960
mentality that I, that I like to
bring is like, yes, let's get

1461
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,040
intense, let's do it smart and
then let's work our asses off in

1462
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,640
a way that's not going to like
absolutely destroy us or

1463
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,360
decimate us for two weeks to
come so we can come back and

1464
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,320
train the next day.
Well, that's why I wanted you to

1465
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,400
explain that because before we
started recording, we were

1466
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,480
talking about different things.
And I told you, I think I was

1467
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,840
talking to Chris, and I said I
had a ton of guitar students who

1468
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,680
basically would have the same
lesson over and over and over

1469
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,560
again because they never pushed
themselves.

1470
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,200
They didn't have the discipline
to do the weekly work to move on

1471
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,240
to the next thing.
That's why I wanted you to

1472
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,360
explain working out in the same
way.

1473
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,600
There are times I'm so sorry I
have to go.

1474
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:53,920
My wife just got in a car
accident.

1475
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,200
Oh.
Jesus, shut up.

1476
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,760
Did she really?
Yeah.

1477
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,200
I'm so sorry.
I don't know.

1478
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,960
I hope she's OK, guys.
Hope she's OK.

1479
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,280
Prayers, brother.
Thoughts and thoughts and

1480
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,800
prayers.
That's weird that oh, whoa,

1481
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,000
terrible, terrible.
Sorry, Nate.

1482
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,720
Hope she's OK.
Yeah, prayers to Nate's wife.

1483
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:18,360
That's a terrible text to get on
on a positive text to get while

1484
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:25,080
we're doing the show, Jake, the
Marine text me, I'm getting

1485
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,520
moved to another unit.
I'm like, oh, I got orders to be

1486
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,280
supply chief.
Congratulations, Jake.

1487
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Right, right.
Where I'm.

1488
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,120
Like, right, I don't know.
He didn't, he didn't expand

1489
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,880
there.
He just, he just, he just said I

1490
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,400
got orders.
He's like I'm moving to another

1491
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,440
unit.
And I said why?

1492
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,200
He's like, I got orders to
become the new supply chief.

1493
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,680
So he was telling me a couple,
right?

1494
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,000
He was telling me a couple days
ago that when when he first got

1495
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,840
to Pendleton doing his job, the
person in charge at the time got

1496
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,080
like a 37% on on.
It's kind of like when I ran

1497
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,600
group home state would come into
the houses and they'd have this

1498
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,920
major checklist they'd go
through.

1499
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,880
Like all the rooms had to be
clean.

1500
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,400
The bathrooms had to be clean.
You know, I kind of like white

1501
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,680
glove test.
They had to all my pill minders

1502
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,560
had to jive with the actual
medications themselves, the

1503
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,200
doshas, the times that they have
to give them all my logs had to

1504
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,080
had to jive all the all the
programs, the clients, the

1505
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,680
people that we took care of, we
call them clients were on, you

1506
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,600
know, programs.
And it's going to sound weird,

1507
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,240
but it's like a boy, like one of
our guys repeated himself, like

1508
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,520
he just repeated himself, you
know, like non-stop.

1509
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,320
So one of his programs was he he
would only repeat himself up to

1510
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,160
three times, you know, a day.
So if during the day, if if he

1511
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,680
only did it three times and he
would get a check mark that he

1512
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,520
accomplished that.
If if he repeat himself like 20

1513
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,040
times having a bad day, he'd get
a 0.

1514
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,680
So.
But all that stuff had to jive,

1515
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,720
OK.
Oh, that's great.

1516
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,280
Yeah, and just, you know, I, I
loved him.

1517
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,480
I, there's, there's this four,
this group of four that I

1518
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,400
started with and just like legit
just the, the greatest 4 humans

1519
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,480
that I've ever been around my
entire life were those four

1520
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,160
guys, Which is why I smile when
I talk about it because it

1521
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,600
really, it was, it was
fantastic.

1522
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,480
Even though they were, you know,
they weren't there.

1523
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,479
They were, they were our age,
but mentally, you know, seven

1524
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,399
years old.
But it's just, you know, it was

1525
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:20,439
just, it was cool.
It was a great place to be.

1526
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:27,000
That's all my life.
So they just did that for him at

1527
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:28,760
because he took that person's
spot.

1528
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,920
So he just had it and he got
like a 95.

1529
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,640
So he killed it.
So it's it's, I mean, that's

1530
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,640
pretty cool that now he's he's
he's being, you know, moved.

1531
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,120
They can just ask where to.
He didn't say.

1532
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,000
I asked the same question.
Awaiting a response.

1533
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,160
Probably thinking the same thing
I thought when you said that.

1534
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,600
Hopefully back to Arizona.
No, it'll no, he'll he he

1535
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,560
doesn't want to come to Yuma.
Yuma sucks, man.

1536
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,640
It's he's he's in Pendleton.
It's going to be somewhere

1537
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,800
there.
It's going to probably Pendleton

1538
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,279
or MCRD.
I'm assuming it's going to be

1539
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:00,399
Pendleton.
He's trying to get back to DI

1540
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,680
school, which if he does, which
he feels like he'll have no

1541
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,399
problem doing, that'll be
October of this year for that

1542
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:11,720
first cycle and then do that and
then, you know, all of a sudden

1543
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,640
he'll turn into a lifer.
If if that happens.

1544
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,640
I found so I was I was cleaning
out the the one of the barns,

1545
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:22,120
right, and I found five totes.
One of the totes was filled with

1546
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,240
song lyrics like what the fuck?
A tote.

1547
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,960
I'm talking a.
Tote a whole.

1548
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,279
Tote a whole tote like a file
folder.

1549
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,760
I took the file folder out of
the file Cam and put them in the

1550
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,840
tote so it's all alphabetically
organized.

1551
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,279
I don't have it with me, but
then I found this.

1552
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,160
I'm burning with anticipation.
Which was kind of funny.

1553
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:51,000
So that's my wife as a baby 3
1/2 years old.

1554
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,720
Good thing she doesn't watch
this because she would be

1555
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,280
pissed.
I have many similar photos, so

1556
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,880
trust me when I sympathize.
Oh, look at that full that's.

1557
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,880
A That's a young Chris Dunham
right there.

1558
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,760
Oh yeah, I see.
I have no.

1559
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,840
Idea when this?
I have no idea when this was

1560
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,520
because there's no date on it,
no date at all.

1561
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,920
But yeah, somewhere there's old
like.

1562
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,600
Somewhere there's a picture of
me with ET glasses buddy So.

1563
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,600
This this was kind of cool,
though.

1564
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,120
I found this.
I found this.

1565
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,080
This is probably from the very
first come bite the apple thing

1566
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,960
I ever got from other love bone.
That's awesome.

1567
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,400
Yeah, fish islands.
But this this is what I thought

1568
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:32,640
was cool.
This is what I wanted to grab.

1569
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,120
This is this is going to it's
going to blow your mind.

1570
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,200
It's a newspaper.
I don't know why I had the

1571
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,640
newspaper because I scoured all
the it's a sports bub.

1572
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,200
I scoured all the things I find
out.

1573
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,080
Why did I say this?
Because back in the day in

1574
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Arizona, this is 83.
So I was 13 years old.

1575
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,520
They used to have when you
played summer ball, which is

1576
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,720
Parson rec, they would come out
and they'd do do the sports

1577
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,040
writers for Tribune and Republic
would watch the games.

1578
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,600
And then they did mention they
just.

1579
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,640
Yeah, Sue the stats.
Oh, Chris, Adam had, you know,

1580
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,600
went for. 4 for four with.
You know.

1581
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,200
My mom.
'S yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1582
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,240
This is, this is what I thought
was cool.

1583
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,120
OK.
Friday and Saturday only.

1584
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:22,400
OK, look at the price of the
car, brand new car. 15-8 You

1585
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,760
know a cougar.
Yeah a 1983 brand new 1983

1586
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,480
Lincoln Town Car for $15,888
new.

1587
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,320
I want a new look Cougar for 199
per month.

1588
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,720
OK, that's I was going to say I
want you to hold that up again

1589
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,680
because here's why.
Because even though the price of

1590
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,600
a new car now is on average,
well, on average it's over

1591
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,760
30,000.
I think it's over 32,000.

1592
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,560
Dollars, Yeah, Yeah.
They can still get you that same

1593
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,640
$199.84 payment, ladies and
gentlemen.

1594
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,000
Yes they can.
It's just for eight years now

1595
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,680
instead of three.
Right, right.

1596
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:04,440
But I thought that was cool when
I because I was I'm like, why

1597
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,040
did I save this?
Why did I save this?

1598
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,200
And then the the front page had
a bunch of Harleys.

1599
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,920
How much are those?
It doesn't give me the price, it

1600
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,880
just says.
Monthly.

1601
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,440
Yes, yeah, 12.9% finance rate.
You're high, your rebates are,

1602
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,880
your rebates are between 2:00
and 3:00.

1603
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,520
Well, motorcycles rebate
interest rates are always high

1604
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,520
because they're there's a death
trap.

1605
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,280
Like the odds of you living, the
odds of you having this thing in

1606
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,440
in 10 years to resell it is slim
to none.

1607
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,880
OK.
Then flip that over, does it say

1608
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,680
the interest rate on that $199 a
month payment?

1609
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,000
Yeah, let.
Me check, let me check.

1610
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,400
Because interest rates back then
for houses were really high in

1611
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,800
1983, right?
Yeah, yeah, they were over 10

1612
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:57,720
percent, 90. 424 months or
201212.2513.2 five 13.25%

1613
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,400
interest rate for the 19913.25.
That's high, man.

1614
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,360
There's the ghost, right?
So for people out there that are

1615
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,800
crying that it's 8% or whatever
it is right now.

1616
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:11,760
Shut the front door and look how
and look how nice that is from

1617
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,280
1983.
That's a 1983 news because

1618
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,600
you've.
Kept it out of the light.

1619
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.

1620
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:24,280
Light and humidity are ink and
paper's worst enemy.

1621
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,960
So you're in Arizona and you've
kept it in a tote.

1622
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,040
You're good.
I've kept it in a tote in a

1623
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,800
barn.
A tote in a barn down by the

1624
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,440
river.
Yeah.

1625
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,760
So that was that was kind of
that was kind of cool, though,

1626
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,320
because when I pulled out the I
wasn't, I opened the lid.

1627
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,720
I'm like, holy shit.
These are all lyrics.

1628
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:46,120
And then I found this zip lock
bag of the of the photos, you

1629
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,920
know, and then the fun, you
know, the fun classic baseball.

1630
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,040
Remember those?
Oh yeah, I got my mom's got all

1631
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,000
those too.
Yeah, absolutely.

1632
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,720
That's crazy.
They did that nationwide, right?

1633
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,280
Everybody thought that that was
unique to where they were at.

1634
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,000
You got the exact same photo I
do.

1635
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,600
Yeah, yeah, this was a cool one.
That's my brother and I and my

1636
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,920
grandmother, who was just the
bomb diggity.

1637
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,040
Oh, that's awesome, man.
Yeah.

1638
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,200
Yeah.
Where did did she live in

1639
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,680
Illinois?
Yeah, she did.

1640
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,480
She live in Pleasant Plains.
Pleasant Plains, IL.

1641
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:21,760
She would come visit.
Yeah.

1642
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,440
So that was that was it.
I'm not going to sit and go with

1643
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:27,080
him, you know, But, yeah, lots
of baseball, a lot of baseball

1644
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:32,840
frames, you know, and the
pictures of my wife, another one

1645
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,520
she'll hate.
That's her in the sky when sky

1646
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,200
was a baby.
Don't ever show that again.

1647
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:45,640
She'll say, hey, you know, you
know, the little little girl,

1648
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:51,040
little Nikki. 1977.
I'll give it to 1977.

1649
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,560
I'll say one thing.
I hate having my picture taken.

1650
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,000
Anybody that knows me knows
that.

1651
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,520
Yeah, but just to prove that I'm
an enigma in every part of my

1652
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,600
life.
Yeah.

1653
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,560
I've never heard anybody say I'm
sorry I have that photo.

1654
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,280
I've only ever heard people
laugh at themselves in jest.

1655
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,200
And like you said, I hate that
photo or whatever, but I've

1656
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,520
never heard anybody say I'm
sorry I took that photo, you

1657
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,080
know?
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's

1658
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,640
that's the thing.
Like Scott was over last night.

1659
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,120
She brings, she brings Anthony's
stuff over.

1660
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,800
Chip comes over to visit and I,
I we're talking about photos or

1661
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,720
something.
And oh, we're talking about

1662
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,800
eyelashes and how she's, she
likes eyelashes.

1663
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,120
And I made a comment.
I said, yeah, because no guy

1664
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,680
ever said, oh, I want a girl
with eyelashes, you know, And

1665
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:42,800
her husband June says, yeah, it,
it, it, it makes you look, I'm

1666
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:43,920
back.
And I was like, yes, guy, there

1667
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,000
are some pictures you had, you
know, I don't take shelf, as I

1668
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,600
said, not anymore.
But you did.

1669
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,440
And it's because I have them
all.

1670
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,400
There are some of the selfies
you took with those eyelashes

1671
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,840
and make them on.
You look like a cholo.

1672
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,360
You look like, you know, it like
straight up not.

1673
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,080
And she's beautiful.
She can't she beautiful.

1674
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:05,000
But some of the stuff it's just
like, OK, home girl, what's up?

1675
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,120
What's that you know?
Well, it's like Dave Chappelle

1676
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,040
said in one of his comedy skits.
I'm sorry I said that, but some

1677
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,880
stereotypes are legit man.
Yeah, that's true, you know,

1678
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,000
Yeah, Yeah.
Like we're not being mean.

1679
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,560
We're saying, hey, you, you guys
apparently like looking like

1680
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,600
that because that's how people
describe you.

1681
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,040
Yeah, yeah.
Nikki's nervous because she's

1682
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,360
afraid he doesn't get someone
else.

1683
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,200
I'm like, I'm assuming
California because why would

1684
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,000
you, you know?
But we'll find out.

1685
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,720
So let's go back to football,
how we started it.

1686
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,120
Yeah, let's, let's go back to
football because it's

1687
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,480
interesting.
Then we'll wrap this puppy up.

1688
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:43,200
So.
So Harbaugh is now the Giants

1689
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,200
coach once again.
I'm I'm on the fence about it,

1690
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,440
But the more I learn about him
and the more I learn, the more I

1691
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:50,240
read about it, it seems like a
good fit.

1692
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,160
There's a guy named, we call him
the license plate guy from New

1693
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,280
York Giants.
You've probably seen him at a

1694
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,320
game as he's used to wear the
license plates around his neck

1695
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,040
and they were OK.
He's like super involved in

1696
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,320
Giants.
I don't know what he does for a

1697
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,680
living, but he's like super
involved in Giants to the fact

1698
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:10,080
that he's sidelines everything
he like he'd you know, so he's

1699
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,600
championing the cost.
I'm like, all right, he knows

1700
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,040
what he's talking about.
You still have 8 vacancies in

1701
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,800
the NFL coaching carousel and
nobody's being interviewed until

1702
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,280
after the playoffs.
Which poses the question, how

1703
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,360
did Harbaugh get an interview
before the playoffs ended?

1704
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,720
Because you're supposed to have
that fairness act, right?

1705
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,000
That they have.
And he get the dude got $20

1706
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,640
million a year, five years, $100
million contract.

1707
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:40,680
I don't know if there's actually
a written rule that says you can

1708
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,240
and can't do certain things.
I thought it was a Rooney Rule.

1709
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,920
I thought this.
Or was that just minority?

1710
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,000
Maybe that was just a minority
aspect.

1711
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,360
I.
Have to go with, I don't know.

1712
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,400
I'm sure that OK, I'm sure that
it must be an unwritten rule,

1713
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,320
otherwise the Giants wouldn't
have been.

1714
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,520
They're not going to do
something illegal or under the

1715
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,080
table that blatant, right?
This is true, yeah.

1716
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,840
Yeah.
I just don't know enough about,

1717
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,840
you know, like you said, what
the rules.

1718
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,120
I think it's more of an
etiquette was the word I'm

1719
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,960
looking for.
I think it's an etiquette thing,

1720
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,240
more of that rule, you know?
Yeah.

1721
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,000
And in his case, he wasn't in
the playoffs, The Giants

1722
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,480
weren't.
There was no post season

1723
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,160
implications for no talking, you
know right?

1724
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,880
No, but yeah, he just got fired
last week.

1725
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,480
Just, you know, and.
Now, so that tells me nobody

1726
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,080
wants MM McDaniel quite yet,
right?

1727
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,000
Mike no, Jake said.
MM Mcgahn is going to the bear

1728
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,040
to the Lions.
Oh, he is.

1729
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,200
Yes, I ask because because I
thought Mike.

1730
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,440
Mcgahn was an OCC.
Uh huh.

1731
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,680
Well, then there's.
Rumour then there's rumours now

1732
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,240
that day balls going to day
balls going to Washington to be

1733
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,040
the OC like that's cool because
that means I'll suck because he

1734
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,400
was the OC called the you know,
I mean, it is what it is like

1735
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,960
you're quarterbacks coach Dabel.
Just go back to what you know,

1736
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,680
man.
But yeah, McDaniels, Jake said

1737
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,160
was going to Detroit.
That's the rumor, which I could

1738
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,080
say I, I think if you're a head
coach and you get fired and

1739
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,600
Harbaugh's going to be that
exception, you don't go be

1740
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,520
another head coach.
I, I get the reason why.

1741
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,600
What's funny to me, and I, I
thought about this last night

1742
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,600
before 3 weeks before this, you
know, the end of the season, it

1743
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,720
was Gruden, Gruden, Gruden.
Where's Gruden going to go?

1744
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,840
Where's Gruden going to land?
Nobody's talking about Gruden

1745
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:23,920
again.
Nobody.

1746
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,520
No.
Nobody, which is crazy.

1747
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,760
There's a little rumor about him
going to Tampa, but that was it.

1748
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,560
It was just a rumor.
And then nobody's talking about

1749
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,080
Gruden.
Well then that means one of two

1750
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,960
things.
Either his mind's already

1751
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,680
made-up and he knows where he's
going, or there's no interest,

1752
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:42,520
right?
True.

1753
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,320
I would say it's probably the
former he prior and that's where

1754
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,480
he's going.
Yeah, and Kingsbury left

1755
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,560
Washington out of nowhere and he
wasn't in the coaching, head

1756
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,880
coaching conversation at all
either, which it's where I don't

1757
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,560
know why he left, but that's
kind of weird, I thought.

1758
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,040
Well, it might be my own
ignorance again, but Washington

1759
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,320
was a fall from grace from one
season to the next.

1760
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,240
They were part of and Jake,
because Jake and I talked about

1761
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,640
that two-part of this because
they had such horrific injuries

1762
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,280
in the quarterback three
separate times and you know, and

1763
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,720
that but that's football, man.
Like you can't.

1764
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,080
And that goes back to which you
and I have talked about, which I

1765
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,960
still fully believe.
You don't have the intense

1766
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,440
practice 2A days anymore.
You don't have the full pad

1767
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:26,480
practices 2A days anymore.
Your body's not getting hit like

1768
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:29,640
it was 10 years ago, which is
why you have so many injuries

1769
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,680
now at the beginning of the
season and in the middle of the

1770
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,360
season because your bodies
aren't conditioned to get

1771
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,840
drilled like they were years
ago.

1772
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,000
It's somebody I was debating
somebody, a friend of mine, Ed

1773
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,240
Glancy, on the giant post about
getting Harbaugh.

1774
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,840
And if somebody in common, well,
maybe Jackson Dart will find his

1775
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,200
way like Jackson Dart has this.
I saw Jackson.

1776
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,520
I agree with what you said too.
Yeah, Jackson Dart, that's how

1777
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,160
he plays football.
Like shut up.

1778
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,520
Like you play football because
if I was a violent sport, you

1779
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:01,000
don't play football to go out
there and you know as soon as

1780
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,480
you see you're going to get hit,
you slide.

1781
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Well, here would be a silly
analogy, but it's an accurate

1782
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,920
one.
OK, we didn't practice with

1783
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,800
acoustic instruments and then
take our electric instruments

1784
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,360
with a gig and rock out, right?
Right.

1785
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:16,200
Yeah, because it sounds totally
different and the vibe is really

1786
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,280
different and the energy is
different and that's.

1787
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,800
Actually, it's not a silly
analogy, it's very accurate.

1788
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,680
Really good analogy.
Yeah, 'cause you wouldn't.

1789
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,920
Practice soft all summer and
then no September whatever 27th

1790
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,000
or whenever the first game of
the season is right.

1791
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,520
Then go out there and go balls
to the wall and run right 1820

1792
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,160
miles an hour at each other at
full clip.

1793
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,600
I don't think you're so far from
the truth, man.

1794
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,400
No.
As far as dramatically, no.

1795
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,880
I think it's dramatically
affected the game the way that

1796
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,160
they practice now.
Collective bargain agreement has

1797
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,600
destroyed football the way it
was played and meant to be

1798
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,800
played.
And if you talk to all the old

1799
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,080
school players that still have
all their faculties, because

1800
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,160
really it's it's if you look at
all the people they played

1801
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,960
football from the dawn of time
to when they started, you know,

1802
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,280
wussing it out, what in the 80s
is when they started doing all

1803
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,640
that stuff.
Players strike the 80s,

1804
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,000
nineties.
Yeah, towards the, yeah, towards

1805
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,880
the latter half of the 80s I
think is when the unions, the

1806
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,480
collective bargaining players
union came about.

1807
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,480
Right.
But it really didn't start

1808
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,080
dumbing down the physical aspect
of it probably until the last 10

1809
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:26,680
years.
I think is when you they came up

1810
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,920
with all you can't have two a
days, you can't have full pad

1811
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,400
practices.
But in the beginning you have to

1812
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:36,120
remember that it was the
opposite, where if you didn't

1813
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,120
play, you didn't get paid.
So.

1814
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,840
Right.
There were two.

1815
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,120
There were two schools of
thought.

1816
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,560
There were owners who would dope
guys up just because they wanted

1817
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,400
the revenue to keep coming in,
in that they didn't want the

1818
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,240
stands empty.
Or there was the players

1819
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,920
motivation, like Jim Harbaugh
said on the dark side of

1820
01:22:54,920 --> 01:23:00,440
football where you just bought a
summer home and you got to now

1821
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:02,720
you have two mortgage payments
and if you don't go out there

1822
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,280
and play football, I don't care
if you got a broken fucking leg.

1823
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,960
Let's, you know, brace it up,
let's shoot you full of

1824
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,360
whatever, he said.
It was like a pharmacy in those

1825
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,320
locker rooms.
Back.

1826
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,720
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I'm sure still is.

1827
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,920
You just can't see it.
I don't know.

1828
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,240
I don't think so.
I really don't because I think

1829
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,800
there's too much oversight.
And to your point, we have gone

1830
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,840
all the way in the other
direction.

1831
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,240
You know, I'm intimately
involved in a union.

1832
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,080
There's just like anything in
life, man.

1833
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,920
I always say everything's
perspective, right?

1834
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:35,680
Yeah.
Yeah.

1835
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:41,120
The people who say that it's
100% a good thing to have a

1836
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,120
union, they're wrong.
And the people who say we would

1837
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,320
be better off without one,
you're also wrong, right?

1838
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,840
The truth is always somewhere in
the middle.

1839
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,520
And I'm glad we actually went
down this road again because I

1840
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,400
remember talking about this with
you the first time.

1841
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,320
And now that we talked it out
again, that's exactly what

1842
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,480
happened, man.
Football was a, it became a

1843
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:05,800
dangerous operation in that you
weren't going to get paid if you

1844
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,240
didn't play.
And these people, you know, that

1845
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,440
was their job, so they didn't
have any income.

1846
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,840
OK.
We have to form some kind of

1847
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,320
work together against the
owners, which would be a union,

1848
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,560
to make sure that our rights are
protected in that if we don't

1849
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,160
play, we get paid.
You know, if I get hurt at work,

1850
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,040
I get paid, right?
The company doesn't just say,

1851
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:29,560
oh, fuck you, Mike, you know
you're out the door.

1852
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,840
Right.
Well that goes back to the

1853
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,120
guaranteed money when in
contracts, right like you're,

1854
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,040
you have guaranteed money now
regardless of the contract you

1855
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,400
sign.
So because you have guaranteed

1856
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,560
money, I don't think it then
should be like, well, I can't

1857
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,000
get hit now until the the week
one of the OR the the first

1858
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,800
preseason game I play.
Agreed.

1859
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,600
And you know, that's the
negative side of protecting

1860
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,120
people too much right now.
We've what do they say?

1861
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,560
We've nerfed the world, right?
Yeah, totally, totally.

1862
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,800
It's it's, yeah, it used to be
the not for long league.

1863
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,560
Now it's the National.
What is National Entertainment

1864
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:03,320
League?
What do you call it?

1865
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,000
Remember these people just
caught the not for long leg

1866
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,440
because you you five years was
the average lifespan of an NFL

1867
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:13,880
athlete.
What the hell was the new act?

1868
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,520
We just said it not too many
shows ago.

1869
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,480
I can't remember now.
Something about entertainment.

1870
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:22,400
Something about what isn't it?
They filed something.

1871
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,400
I remember you telling me about
it.

1872
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,080
They filed.
They filed A trademark or

1873
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,400
something.
It had to do with entertainment.

1874
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:31,040
Now not not.
Oh yeah, They filed a suit in

1875
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,080
federal court to say that it
wasn't a sport, it was an

1876
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,520
entertainment league, Yes.
Yes, there you go.

1877
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:39,760
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.

1878
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,720
It's still obviously the
National Football League, but if

1879
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,280
it's defined, it's defined as
entertainment, not a sport.

1880
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,400
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.

1881
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,280
Which lends itself more to the
WWE.

1882
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,480
Yes, because WWE was pure
entertainment, you know, at

1883
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:01,840
least I mean, I mean, huh at.
Least they were.

1884
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,360
Right.
But, and, but, and, and the

1885
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,760
entertainment that wrestlers,
professional wrestlers do,

1886
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:11,160
that's not easy entertainment.
It's blocking acting when you're

1887
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,600
acting on stage, acting in ATV
show, acting in a movie, there's

1888
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,240
blocking.
If nobody's ever heard that

1889
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:16,640
you're blocking, every scene is
blocked.

1890
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,720
Like, you know, the 2 1/2
minutes comes to mind, right?

1891
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,120
So you have the scene where Jon
Cryer's in in the living room

1892
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,800
with, with, with their kid, with
his son.

1893
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,880
And so they're, they're standing
in certain ways.

1894
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,680
That's called blocking.
And when when John Cryer moves

1895
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,600
across the room, he moves behind
the kid because that's blocking.

1896
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,840
And then Charlie Sheen open his
door.

1897
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,880
So then they pan the camera.
Charlie Sheen goes behind the

1898
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,280
couch and ends up face to face
with John Choir.

1899
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,800
Why?
Angus, the kids over there, it's

1900
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,720
blocking.
Wrestling is the same concept.

1901
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,880
You're blocking the moves.
You're practicing the moves.

1902
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,280
I'm Hulk Hogan.
You're about your man Randy

1903
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:47,200
Savage.
We're going to fight.

1904
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,000
OK, I'm going to climb up on
the, on the, on the rope.

1905
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,920
Somebody in the corner of the
turnbuckle, I'm going to jump.

1906
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,680
You're going to catch me there
and you're going to, you're

1907
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,440
going to throw me this way and
my body's going to do the

1908
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,600
somersault roll.
You're blocking all that shit.

1909
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,920
It's, it's, it's staged.
It's acting football.

1910
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,400
You're not acting, man.
It's full on, you know, 60 miles

1911
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,600
an hour.
How do you feel?

1912
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,120
Right?
That's what they're missing

1913
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,720
because they're not doing that
in practice.

1914
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,160
That's why I think concussions
have gone up because you're not

1915
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,320
getting hit, you're not getting
used to getting hit again.

1916
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,280
You have, you have short time
off, right?

1917
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,960
It's it's what would the season
in the two weeks ago.

1918
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,280
So that was the end of December
now, right?

1919
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,080
And then OTA start in March if
I'm not mistaken?

1920
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,520
Yes.
So you have three months?

1921
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,840
Yeah, basically.
And if you make the playoffs,

1922
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,960
you have maybe a month and and
three weeks because the Super

1923
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,680
Bowl now is in is in the first
week of February.

1924
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:43,120
So if you make the Super Bowl,
you have a month off, which is

1925
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,960
why it's so impressive.
The Chiefs did what they did and

1926
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,400
the Patriots did what they did
right.

1927
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,760
And when the Cowboys did what
they did in the 90s, that's you,

1928
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,800
you don't have this big time off
and you're back-to-back to

1929
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,720
back-to-back.
So I just, I just, I think they

1930
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,640
need to be hit more frequently
before the pre season starts to

1931
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,600
eliminate a lot of the the
injuries that they have now.

1932
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,240
You know, because you're not
pushing your body anymore like

1933
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,960
Nate was talking about, you
don't push yourself enough to

1934
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,160
sustain the level of being
pushed, right?

1935
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,760
Or have they created superhumans
in that league, in that those

1936
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,320
people are just dangerous,
you're going to get hurt no

1937
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,360
matter.
Possible, right?

1938
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,560
Possible.
Yeah, look.

1939
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,480
Look at a guy from 1983 on the
offensive line and look at the

1940
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:29,440
guy from 2023 on the offensive
line, right.

1941
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,920
Yeah, a lot more muscle mass now
than fat.

1942
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,120
Well, we understand nutrition.
We just had a guy tell us for an

1943
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,800
hour how much we understand
nutrition to the point where we

1944
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,920
know exactly where your
carbohydrates go when you do

1945
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,480
certain things, where your
proteins go when you do certain

1946
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:48,840
things.
We can control how your body's

1947
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,720
built.
I didn't either.

1948
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,360
That was fascinating.
Yeah, I'd like to have them come

1949
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,680
back and just talk about
nutrition.

1950
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,800
Like solar.
We're going to work in the

1951
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,400
sidetrack because we always do,
but it'd be cool to talk about,

1952
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,560
OK, If you want to gain weight,
this is the type of nutrition.

1953
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,240
If you want to lose weight, this
is the type of nutrition.

1954
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,920
This is how you shoot it when
you shoot the frequency of

1955
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,360
shooting, right?
Because so many people have so

1956
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,240
many different ideas of when and
how they should eat.

1957
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,920
I have a friend every two hours,
she'll eat something every two

1958
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,880
hours, every two hours.
You're right and.

1959
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,560
And I'm not.
So is that good or bad, man?

1960
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,840
I don't know.
Yeah.

1961
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,360
Yeah.
Well, I don't think everybody

1962
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,960
body is different, right?
Sure, absolutely.

1963
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,840
And it depends on what you're
doing from a physical standpoint

1964
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,440
too.
Because I've learned I forgot

1965
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:32,560
how hungry I was after doing
Orangetheory Fitness as opposed

1966
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:33,960
to not doing Orange Theory
fitness.

1967
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:39,960
Because I can burn 1000 calories
in 53 minutes and then I still

1968
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:45,200
have the rest of my day and I'm
I'm like I legit came home and

1969
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,320
had two hamburgers with cheese
and and a cup of rice.

1970
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,040
That's what I ate post.
Workout, you just proved my

1971
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,640
point.
So if, let me see how I want to

1972
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,480
phrase this.
If you're somebody who's lucky

1973
01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:59,240
enough on the outside to be on
the outside looking in and

1974
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,560
they're shadowing you somehow
and they say, wow, Chris Dunham,

1975
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,640
he can eat 2 cheeseburgers and
in a bowl of rice, he can do

1976
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,920
that every day and he never
gains a pound, right?

1977
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,200
He just, he's a Adonis.
How does he do it?

1978
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,760
They don't see that you're going
to work out to the point where

1979
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,680
you're dripping sweat.
You don't want to be talked to.

1980
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,240
You're just they're on a
mission.

1981
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:23,960
To work, I eat.
I'm there to kick my ass.

1982
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:28,320
If I eat 2 cheeseburgers after
just working for 10 hours, and I

1983
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,680
do that every day in a bowl of
rice, I'm going to start gaining

1984
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,440
belly fat all over the place
because I'm not doing anything

1985
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,800
with all that protein, right?
Right.

1986
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,240
That's why I'm saying
everybody's nutrition, and I

1987
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,120
wanted Nate to get to that, and
he did.

1988
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,320
Everybody's nutrition is
different, right?

1989
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:47,160
Yeah.
It's based on what you're doing

1990
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,760
and how you're living your life.
You said it earlier, if you're

1991
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,360
sitting on the couch every day,
you're going to gain weight for

1992
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,240
sure, especially if you're
eating, you know, Hostess apple

1993
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,440
pies and bread and.
Right.

1994
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,000
And just to clarify, I didn't
have McDonald's cheeseburgers.

1995
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,280
I had two smash burgers that we
made last night on the

1996
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,600
Blackstone.
I made extra.

1997
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,400
So when I came home today,
basically those, those two beef

1998
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,640
patties that were smashed, I
threw cheese on it and a cup of

1999
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,960
rice and naked it.
So it wasn't like I'm Sonic.

2000
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,360
Super Sonic Cheeseburger, Sonic
satisfied Route 45.

2001
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,840
That's kind of, that's what I
used to order at Sonic years and

2002
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,320
years and years ago.
That was my thing.

2003
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:29,440
Super Sonic Cheeseburger with
Mayo Sonic size frying around 44

2004
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:31,680
Ice T.
You guys have had an out in

2005
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,400
Arizona, right?
We do, and I've only been there

2006
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,160
a handful of times with Jake.
I don't remember Don Warnock,

2007
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,640
Our buddy Don, he's always
wanted me to send him In and Out

2008
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,120
Burger.
Like got to send me an Out

2009
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:42,480
Burger brother.
I'm like, I don't know how.

2010
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,240
So that's why I got him.
I can't see Chiefs banner that I

2011
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,040
found.
It was a marketplace one day and

2012
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,840
I was like, Don would love that.
And I messaged the chick.

2013
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:50,800
I'm like, hey, is this
available?

2014
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,920
She's like, yeah, I said you
want this for She's like, yeah,

2015
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,640
I said, all right, cool, I'm
there.

2016
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,880
And then like the next time we
picked it up and and shipped it

2017
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,240
to him, I was like, what's your
address, Don?

2018
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,800
He's like, why?
I said I'm I'm going to send you

2019
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,160
something and I'm showing his
head was like, oh, I'm getting.

2020
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,840
Burgers in and out burgers.
Right.

2021
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,240
And then he gets he's like.
And then he was blown away by

2022
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,640
what he got because it was the
coolest thing to him ever.

2023
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,240
Because here's this random thing
I saw that I knew he would love,

2024
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,000
and it's like, there you go.
It was.

2025
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:24,680
Awesome.
OK, somebody asked me if they

2026
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,320
can show on my listings.
Like which one?

2027
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,280
I have many, I have many.
Can I show one of your listings

2028
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,960
at 1:15 today?
Which I don't.

2029
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,480
I don't just lead.
With the address lead with the

2030
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:37,400
address.
Hi Chris, can I show your Oh,

2031
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:43,640
oh, I think Oh, I think.
Did you mean to say via day?

2032
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,680
I'd have to respond back and say
I try not to have all my eggs in

2033
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,880
one basket, so define which.
Well, her thing says can I show

2034
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,720
you via day?
I'm like via day.

2035
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,320
Oh, I got you.
Sure.

2036
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,760
Let me tell the owners.
Let me tell the owners.

2037
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,600
Yeah, Verizon went down
yesterday, which I had no

2038
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,440
Monday.
Monday went down and I'm like or

2039
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,440
Wednesday, Wednesday went down.
I'm like, I have Verizon.

2040
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:11,920
I'm fine.
So it didn't affect you at all?

2041
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:13,880
Not at all.
Not at all.

2042
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,360
I saw a lot of bitching on
Facebook about that.

2043
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:20,000
That's how I found out about
Neanderthal posted that he that

2044
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,320
that that I'm not ignoring you.
Verizon's down.

2045
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,080
And I was like, let me Verizon's
down, man.

2046
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:29,880
So that makes me wonder if they
got hacked.

2047
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:31,960
You know, they cover up a lot of
that stuff.

2048
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,680
We're having networking issues.
I'm starting to think most of

2049
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,400
the time these companies are
getting hacked.

2050
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,200
I think so too.
And I and I think part of it is.

2051
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,120
I think part of it is is.
That's why I think our next wars

2052
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:46,760
are heading.
It's going to be cyber.

2053
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,560
Yeah, which can be thank to
1,000,000%.

2054
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,800
Yeah, there's going to go
because the chemical, chemical

2055
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,960
war was COVID.
I think that was a chemical war

2056
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,800
that China won just to see if
they could do it.

2057
01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:05,360
Conspiracy theories chime in.
You know, I, I mean, you think

2058
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,280
about it because we've always
had the flu, right?

2059
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,160
But now all of a sudden the only
people that die are the ones

2060
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,960
that go to the hospital and get
stuck on a ventilator.

2061
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,000
Nobody else died from COVID
unless you're in the hospital on

2062
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,280
a ventilator.
I've, I've talked to people

2063
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,920
that, that had perfectly healthy
humans in their life and they

2064
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,200
got COVID and the, the spouse
has urged them to go to the

2065
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,400
hospital.
They walk in the hospital

2066
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,320
ventilator. 3 days later,
they're dead.

2067
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,240
That happened so much.
During that time, it was the

2068
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,480
wrong way to treat the flu.
So I really think that was

2069
01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,600
something that was China won
that that war.

2070
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:41,640
You know, love me or hate me,
that's my my thought on that.

2071
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,480
No, I.
I was telling the viewers.

2072
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,200
Oh, I would, I would tend to
agree with that.

2073
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,640
And I would think right now if
you're witnessing what's going

2074
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,320
on, we're chasing the Petro
dollar.

2075
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:55,680
You know, we're trying to keep
the dollar alive by maintaining

2076
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,360
our stranglehold on oil because
we're broke.

2077
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,360
You know, I mean, right, you got
to just RIP.

2078
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,600
You got to RIP the Band-Aid off.
We're broke, ladies and

2079
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,080
gentlemen.
And we're going off to

2080
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,960
Greenland.
Greenland's a nice piece of the

2081
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,080
pile.
It's a nice card.

2082
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:14,120
As Nikki says, Donald is is
playing his own game of risk and

2083
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,240
he's he's got Venezuela now.
He's going for Greenland and

2084
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,800
he's going to go for Australia
next.

2085
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:24,360
You know real life Risk, right?
How is she?

2086
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,840
Who the fuck?
Who the fuck wants to go after

2087
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,280
Greenland?
What has Greenland done to

2088
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:29,800
anybody?
They're owned by Denmark.

2089
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,120
It's cold to sell.
Nikki, I said.

2090
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,240
That's brilliant.
He's.

2091
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,120
Playing real life.
Doing a risk.

2092
01:35:35,480 --> 01:35:37,680
Right.
Because I mean really like, you

2093
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,200
know, of all the things.
I looked at that scroll bar last

2094
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,000
night, dude, and it was if
Mexico doesn't do this, we're

2095
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,960
going to do that.
If Iran doesn't going to do

2096
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,360
this, we're going to do that.
Oh, yeah.

2097
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,280
And by the way, we're going to
take over Greenland.

2098
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,480
And I thought the same thing.
I was like, whoa, whoa.

2099
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,680
You know, I can understand.
Maybe Mexico owes us money or

2100
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,600
whatever.
You could make arguments for the

2101
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,400
other two, right?
I ran in Mexico.

2102
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,120
Maybe you could make arguments.
I said the same thing.

2103
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,120
I'm like, whoa, pause,
Greenland.

2104
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,160
Yeah, yeah.
What did people fuck Greenland

2105
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,320
Do people?
Forget Greenland's even there.

2106
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,600
Right, I didn't know Greenland.
I was because I'm shitty

2107
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,120
geography.
I thought Greenland was above

2108
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,960
us, not Canada.
Eh, like I legit.

2109
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,640
And then when Pookie, my buddy,
when my buddy Paul Pookie, he's

2110
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,160
like no, dude, Canada.
Canada runs all the way from

2111
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:24,400
Seattle to New York, brother.
I'm like, Yep, I like the Nikki.

2112
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,560
Really.
Yeah, no shit.

2113
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,560
I need to look at a map again.
I was, I didn't, I didn't.

2114
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,840
I didn't go to school a lot when
I was young because of my asthma

2115
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,800
and illness.
So I I missed some significant

2116
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,200
geography days apparently.
It's the largest island in the

2117
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,720
world.
And you know, I know that now,

2118
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,160
but Venezuela, I get why you had
to go out to Venezuela.

2119
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,560
I get that because of the chaos
and the tyranny and the

2120
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,920
dictatorship and the and the
mass killings and all that kind.

2121
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:49,720
Of non.
Can I present an argument to you

2122
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,520
please?
I agree with you and my initial

2123
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,200
thought was exactly what you
just said, that fire.

2124
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:56,640
Fire 100.
Percent.

2125
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,920
So then I think that through to
the bone, right?

2126
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:03,800
You do, you do.
What if the Chinese showed up

2127
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,960
here tomorrow on the east and
West Coast and said we don't

2128
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,400
write the way you're running a
country?

2129
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,800
OK.
So we're here to make sure that

2130
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,280
you run it the right way.
What are we going to do?

2131
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,320
We're going to go to war.
The only reason that Venezuela

2132
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,440
didn't do that is because
they're in chaos.

2133
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,760
But what business is that of
ours is my question right?

2134
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,440
If somebody showed up and told
Chris Dunham, I don't like the

2135
01:37:26,440 --> 01:37:29,360
way you're raising your kids,
we're here from the state of

2136
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,640
Arizona to make sure that you do
it the right way.

2137
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,360
They're not going to be.
They're not malnourished.

2138
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:35,880
Right.
Right.

2139
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:37,120
You have no choice in the
matter.

2140
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,840
You have no choice in the matter
because they have guns.

2141
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,280
Yeah, right.
You're going to have to do what

2142
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,320
they say or they're going to
take your kids away from you.

2143
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,920
Here's your list of rules.
You either follow them or

2144
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,560
they're coming to the camp with
me.

2145
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,680
That's my analogy is what if
somebody showed up and told you

2146
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,400
you had to do XY and Z?
How are you going to feel?

2147
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,640
Oh, we're Americans.
We do what we want.

2148
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,520
That's the problem.
That's a good point.

2149
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,600
You can do what you want inside
this country.

2150
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,400
Right.
But when we start going, I know

2151
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,280
that was a chaotic mess down
there.

2152
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,280
That's a whole separate
argument.

2153
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,920
My argument is, who are we to go
there?

2154
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,840
RIP this guy away even though
he's a self.

2155
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,520
That's their business.
Right.

2156
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,880
He wasn't even elected.
Agreed he was.

2157
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,920
He didn't.
He didn't win.

2158
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,920
Here's a took office.
For the people who are screaming

2159
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,360
at me right now, here's a real
quick good analogy.

2160
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,840
We thought we were doing good
when we cut the head off in

2161
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,400
Libya with Gaddafi and we
created a fucking nightmare that

2162
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,000
we're still living today.
That's a mess and always

2163
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,600
happened.
Was that Was that Reagan?

2164
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:45,440
No, that would have been.
Was it Carter?

2165
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:48,000
Jimmy Carter.
No, this is way later.

2166
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,560
Like Hillary Clinton was
involved in that operation.

2167
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,800
Oh, Obama.
Obama, Mama.

2168
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,480
Yeah, I think it was Obama.
OK.

2169
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,360
The cutting people's heads off
in the street to this day in

2170
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,280
Libya.
Yeah, well, and The funny thing

2171
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,840
too about Obama is Obama
deported.

2172
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,760
We talked about this way before
Trump was in office.

2173
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:09,080
Obama has deported more illegal
aliens from this country than in

2174
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,200
their president combined.
He's also killed more innocent

2175
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,600
people with drone strikes than
any other president ever.

2176
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,200
Right.
The biggest difference that that

2177
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,120
the argument I get with that,
which is legitimate, Obama did

2178
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,840
it quietly.
Trump's doing it through ice.

2179
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,000
Trump's loud, Obama was quiet.
That's it's the, it's the, the,

2180
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,280
yeah, what it's, it's the method
of which they chose to do so

2181
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,080
with it.
And then you see these little

2182
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,760
things with, with even Clinton
talking about illegal aliens

2183
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,640
need to be removed.
So it's like we're not getting

2184
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,040
political boys and girls,
because we're not.

2185
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,120
We all have Mike and I voted and
we're big believers that as long

2186
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,440
as you vote, you're allowed to
talk politics without choosing

2187
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:49,680
sides.
And we're not choosing sides.

2188
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,080
I'm just bringing that up
because ICE is a big topic now

2189
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:57,680
and every president before Trump
has talked about illegal

2190
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,240
immigrants being every mom in
this country and how they need

2191
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,840
to be removed.
It's just, it's just the method,

2192
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,640
the methods of which they choose
to remove them is different.

2193
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,320
Sure, Trump's, Trump's look at
me, look at me, look at me.

2194
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,280
Trump's doing what I didn't
think, what I hoped he wouldn't

2195
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:12,720
do.
I hoped he would come in and

2196
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:17,200
restore his legacy and, and
build a better country for the

2197
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,600
next president to come in and
just pick up and go on.

2198
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,320
But his, his legacy.
What do you love or hate him?

2199
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,040
You?
It's not, it's not a legacy

2200
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,640
that's going to be looked at
fondly.

2201
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,320
Unfortunately, I think the guy's
off his fucking rocker at this

2202
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,400
point.
I really do.

2203
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,040
I think, I don't think he's all
there.

2204
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,120
They're they're all off the
rocker.

2205
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:36,080
I think the power.
Goes No.

2206
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,400
I mean, like Ronald Reagan off
his rocker.

2207
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,080
I think you're going to find out
if he lives long enough.

2208
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,040
I think you're going to find out
that, like, you don't.

2209
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:48,400
He's always said outrageous
shit, but now he's saying stupid

2210
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,840
shit.
Right, Right.

2211
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,560
There's a difference.
Yeah.

2212
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,360
I can the best.
Howard Stern said outrageous

2213
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,560
shit for years.
You can agree or disagree,

2214
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:57,080
right?
He did.

2215
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,720
But he built himself into an
empire because he was an

2216
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,920
intelligent man and he knew how
to push.

2217
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,600
People's butts, the buttons
right and.

2218
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,600
Trump knew how to do the same
thing and now he's getting

2219
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,600
boring as fuck.
Like you're just saying shit to

2220
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,160
get.
Be relevant.

2221
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:13,640
You're not relevant enough.
Thank you.

2222
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,800
The best thing that Trump said
in the last probably four or

2223
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,720
five months, maybe not that
long, last two weeks, is when

2224
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,680
John Harbaugh got fired, he
tweeted that the Giants need to

2225
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:29,000
hire that man.
And you know, because, you know,

2226
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,320
and obviously the Giants
listened because they hired John

2227
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,880
Harbaugh and paying him $20
million a year for the next five

2228
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,680
years.
Whoever said that he was the

2229
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:41,160
best candidate, I agree.
I was hoping that you guys would

2230
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:45,040
get.
After again after after because

2231
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,480
I don't follow the Ravens.
So all I see in the Ravens as

2232
01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:51,040
you have two time MVP Lamar
Jackson and he one of the top

2233
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,920
ten ever running backs in
Derrick Henry like I still to

2234
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,680
this day don't know why
Tennessee let him go.

2235
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:01,120
They were stupid pay the man pay
the man Derrick Henry has the

2236
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:02,600
longevity of running back is
short.

2237
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,080
But when you have somebody like
Derrick Henry, who has proven

2238
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,240
year after year after year after
he's.

2239
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,600
Way more durable than a regular
running back because he's £250.

2240
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:16,280
Right right now if Cam Scataboo
can stop leading with his head,

2241
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:17,680
he's going to have a long career
too.

2242
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,640
Because Cam Scatab was hard to
bring down.

2243
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,400
I did see something about Cam
his introduction to the NFL.

2244
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,840
He was against the the the
Broncos and the he was signed

2245
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,480
with blocking and the defensive
lineman knocked him on his ass.

2246
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:33,600
Like literally knocked him on
his ass, like defensive lane was

2247
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,360
probably, you know, 64380 and
put Cam on his ass.

2248
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,160
And and Cam pointed out that
that was my welcome to the NFL

2249
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,320
moment.
Like this guy knocked me on my

2250
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:43,640
ass.
And he's like from that point

2251
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,840
on, I knew I had to come a
little bit harder, a little bit

2252
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,440
faster, a little bit more
aggressive, but he did.

2253
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:53,280
And he's, he's, had he not blown
his, his, his, his ankle, his,

2254
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,480
whatever he did, he would have
had a hell of a rookie year.

2255
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,560
Hell of a rookie year.
I think the Giants were looking

2256
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:05,640
at what I'm looking at in that
you have a long tenured Super

2257
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,840
Bowl winning coach.
Yep.

2258
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,360
From a pedigreed family, just
like the Mannings.

2259
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,600
True.
You know, you're talking an

2260
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:17,920
entire decades, generations of
football minds and that family

2261
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,080
that they have to draw from.
And I just think he was the most

2262
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,000
experienced, mature.
The Giants can't just hire

2263
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,160
anybody, right?
It's New York.

2264
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,680
No, right.
He's going to have to win at

2265
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:33,040
some point.
Well, yeah, the other problem

2266
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,480
with the Giants is if you look
at the coaches they've hired

2267
01:43:35,480 --> 01:43:38,200
since Coughlin contradicts that
statement, they hired just

2268
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,120
anyone.
Well, the Bears did that for a

2269
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,440
long time, too, and he would
think that the city of Chicago,

2270
01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:45,040
as big as it is, would put a
winning team on the field.

2271
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,960
See, that's the thing.
The Bears, The Steelers, The

2272
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,000
Giants.
Who else is the Packers?

2273
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,200
Those are like like the I don't
think of any.

2274
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,240
I can't think of any other team.
Maybe the Raiders.

2275
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:04,720
Those are like 5 coveted long
standing religious football

2276
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,680
teams, right?
Like you follow these teams with

2277
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,240
a religion like like you travel
better than anybody.

2278
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,800
Oh, and they just sent me a
picture.

2279
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,120
Let's see.
Let's see what happened to his

2280
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,360
wife.
Hopefully it's not.

2281
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,080
Bloody yeah.
Hopefully it's not bloody.

2282
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:17,880
Oh shit.
No.

2283
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,760
OK.
Oh shit.

2284
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:20,840
Oh yeah.
Wow.

2285
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:25,320
OK Oh, thank God, dude.
Forget.

2286
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,720
Thank you for sharing.
We we were worried about you.

2287
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,200
Oh, I'll send you the picture,
Mike.

2288
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,440
Yeah, that's a that's a dinger.
That's it's and it looks like 3

2289
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:40,440
cars involved in the
intersection which you know

2290
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:43,320
somebody was out there people,
not your fucking.

2291
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,160
Phone.
Yeah, somebody was on their

2292
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,240
phone.
Somebody was on their phone

2293
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:54,240
because I just sent it to you.
Yeah, 1 Yeah, somebody was doing

2294
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,840
something stupid.
And if you have a car like we do

2295
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,680
nowadays, there is no excuse for
that because all you got to do

2296
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,800
is talk and it'll do whatever
you want it to do.

2297
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,080
You don't have to look or touch
it.

2298
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:04,280
You don't have to touch
anything.

2299
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:09,280
No, Oh, yeah, Although I will, I
will say they need to improve

2300
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,040
Siri because when you voice text
with Siri and then when you get

2301
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,400
to a stop light or get your day
station, look what Siri just

2302
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,680
sent.
You're like, what the fuck?

2303
01:45:17,480 --> 01:45:20,360
I didn't say any of that.
I have to something like shit

2304
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,360
you not dude.
Sometimes I have to for Siri to

2305
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:23,680
understand me.
I got to do this.

2306
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,600
Hey Siri, text, text Mike
Michaels.

2307
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,440
Hey Mike, I'm running late.
I'll be on the show in about 10

2308
01:45:28,440 --> 01:45:30,360
minutes.
Jump on with dates and I'll be

2309
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,880
there shortly.
It gets a spot on.

2310
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,960
But if I say hey Mike, it's
Chris, I'm running a little bit

2311
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,720
late.
Hop on the show with me.

2312
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,760
I should be on there about 10
after it'll come back something

2313
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,960
wack away.
I'll read it like hey Mike, it's

2314
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:42,880
Chris.
I'm wearing a dress.

2315
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,360
I can't find my slippers, but I
should get there within 10

2316
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,280
minutes or so.
What the fuck, Dave?

2317
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,200
Like it's ridiculous, it's
ridiculous.

2318
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:52,640
All right, we're going to wrap
this puppy up.

2319
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,880
Glad your wifes okay Nate.
We'll have you back on as

2320
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,520
always.
As always, appreciate you coming

2321
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,280
show.
Anytime.

2322
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,480
Absolutely.
Again, this is the Christian

2323
01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:02,680
Mike show we are proudly brought
to.

2324
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:08,360
Proudly brought to you.
We actually are proudly bought

2325
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,080
to us.
Because they right for this

2326
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,880
we're we're, we're we're we're
proud to say a portion of our

2327
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,520
show is supported by and
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2328
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If you've never podcasted with

2329
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2330
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It does all the kinds of stuff
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2331
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,560
been doing it now for 100.
This is 160 eighth show.

2332
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,320
Yeah, somewhere around there.
Yeah, yeah, 168 shows so pretty

2333
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,200
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I use it for my personal stuff

2334
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:38,520
too, so check them out.
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2335
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,400
And hey, if you're feeling
depressed, if you're feeling

2336
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,840
suicidal, if if you're just not
having a good day, it happens to

2337
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,520
everybody.
Go journal, go run, go for a

2338
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,440
walk, go work out.
Call somebody to talk to.

2339
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:54,960
If you can't find somebody to
talk to, text 988.

2340
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,000
Someone is there standing by to
connect with you, to help you

2341
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,560
get out of that mindset and talk
you off that Cliff or off that

2342
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,880
ledge.
Tomorrow is always a better day

2343
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,480
with you in it.
Mike and I have both been

2344
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:06,120
affected by suicides.
It sucks.

2345
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,040
It leaves a hole in that
person's heart.

2346
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,120
You don't think that people love
you, they do.

2347
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,880
You don't think people care
about you, they do.

2348
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,560
You don't think people will miss
you, They will.

2349
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,280
Don't be that person.
Tomorrow is always a better day,

2350
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,840
so it's even better when you
wake up with us.

2351
01:47:21,480 --> 01:47:23,920
That being said, this Christian
Mike show, I'm Christie's Mike.

2352
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,800
Good, good, good.
I'm glad everything's cool.

2353
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:29,920
Nate with the wife, nobody is
hurt.

2354
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,040
That's that's that's a blessing
because that would suck.

2355
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:33,520
I actually thought it was a
joke.

2356
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,360
Not not not as a bad way,
because Nate went down the path

2357
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,120
of of he was doing some stand up
comedy.

2358
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,120
So I legit thought he was
joking.

2359
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,240
So that's why I was like.
He caught me off guard for a

2360
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,760
second too, and then I saw his
eyes.

2361
01:47:44,440 --> 01:47:47,600
Right, Well, that's me too then,
because you know, he does.

2362
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,800
He was doing some stand up.
So that's what I that's you

2363
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,840
know, because it was so abrupt.
Like we're in the middle of a

2364
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:52,680
conversation.
He looks down.

2365
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,560
He's like, I got to go.
My wife was in a car accident

2366
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,040
and I was like.
Well, the three of us have such

2367
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,640
chemistry, I could see how that
could happen real quick.

2368
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,400
Right.
Yeah, yeah, we're all fucking

2369
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,000
jokesters.
So yeah, he got me for a second

2370
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:04,440
too.
I'm.

2371
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:05,960
I'm super glad she's OK.
Yeah.

2372
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,040
Yeah, absolutely.
So until next time, thank you

2373
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,640
for listening, thank you for
watching, thank you for tuning

2374
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,120
in as we can continue to grow
our little crystal mic world.

2375
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,360
We're glad you're part of it and
on the journey with us.

2376
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,360
Absolutely.
See you.

2377
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,280
Love you brother.
Love you too man, peace you get.

2378
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,840
The press, you get the press
stop.

2379
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:24,680
We're clear,