#208 - Nehemiah Bailey - Singer/Songwriter

Unknown Speaker (0:08): Welcome boys and girls. Twitchers. Yeah. Welcome to the Chris and Mike Show. He's Mike, I'm Chris, and a portion of the show is brought to you by Riverside FM, the one and only choice for your podcasting platforms.

Chris (1:01): Remember, we're live on Twitch, YouTube, and chrisandmikeshow.com. That's just chrisandmikeshow.com. You can join us there right now along with all you other 100 countries, and you could check out Nehemiah who is our guest. Gonna be a fantastic conversation. Nehemiah, welcome to the show.

Chris (1:16): Welcome, Nehemiah.

Nehemiah (1:18): Thank you for having me. I'm honored to be talking to you guys today.

Unknown Speaker (1:21): We're happy to have you, man.

Chris (1:25): Absolutely. So give us a little bit. We're going on an elevator ride from the 1st Floor to the 30th. Why are you here? What are you all about?

Chris (1:31): Why did you want to come grace us with your presence? Which we're not complaining because we love people gracing us with their presents.

Nehemiah (1:38): I'm here, basically, just a little bit about me. I moved from my hometown in Maryland about a to year or so New York to start a band. The band is Exotic Vision, and I just released my first EP, Minnesota, which is which holds the first the the lead single, the original song, I Left My Heart in Minnesota, and two classic rock covers, one Painted Black by the Stones

Unknown Speaker (2:07): and- Oh!

Mike (2:09): It's a very good version too. Anybody that wants to hear it, go to Instagram, TikTok, wherever he's got it posted, it is a badass version of that song. Congratulations, man.

Nehemiah (2:18): Thank you. And then another classic rock cover, Proud Mary.

Unknown Speaker (2:22): Another great version. I listened to that one. He kills it, dude. He kills it.

Unknown Speaker (2:27): Yeah. Well, thank you. I I appreciate it. So, yeah, man.

Mike (2:31): Anybody that knows me, I love CCR. Like, you better have your shit together. I know they didn't write it the first time.

Unknown Speaker (2:39): It was like Kikina Turner. Right? Yeah. Or was or my is that just too common?

Mike (2:42): CCR's version of proud Mary is my jam. Right? That's what I'm comparing you to. You killed it, man. Great version.

Unknown Speaker (2:48): Thank you.

Unknown Speaker (2:51): Thank you.

Chris (2:52): So what are what are because again, I'm this is me. I don't I don't don't I dive into backgrounds and stuff. So on Instagram, what are you? What's your handle?

Nehemiah (3:03): L l l, Nehemiah, l l l. So, basically, l l l, then my name Nehemiah spelled n e h e m I a h, l l l, again. And you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube. I post on all the things.

Chris (3:21): Cool. I found you. The reason why I did this is because while we talk and have a conversation, I share. So I'm sharing your stuff because that's what I do. Right?

Unknown Speaker (3:33): That's you. There you go.

Unknown Speaker (3:35): Yes, that's me.

Unknown Speaker (3:36): There you go. Yeah, that's me. There's the song Minnesota. How come we don't have a Minnesota accent? He's singing with a Minnesota accent when you sing the song.

Chris (3:43): Just want to know. No? K. Which one so so I'm gonna click on something. Just I just oh.

Chris (3:49): I'm gonna click on something. Just to why is it where's the volume? Where's the volume? Damn. I hate when it does that.

Chris (3:59): This is a little live track. You gotta love you gotta love sound of silence, man. That's a Yeah. That's a song right there.

Unknown Speaker (4:28): Yeah. For

Mike (4:28): sure. I love the tone of your voice, man.

Chris (4:31): Yeah. It's outstanding. You. It's kind of an effortless, effortless tone, just like a natural.

Unknown Speaker (4:36): Thank you.

Chris (4:36): You're not forcing. You can tell us fuck off, man. Don't gotta sleep saying thank you. Shut up guys. Shut up.

Chris (4:42): Stop it. I don't like compliments. What's wrong

Unknown Speaker (4:46): with you?

Chris (4:46): Where's the, don't mind him. Yeah, don't worry me dude. I'm just a goofball.

Unknown Speaker (4:53): You know, the minute you're looking for the song.

Chris (4:55): Yeah, song. Oh, you're on Apple Tooth iMusic? Right on. Yeah. Can I get all three of your songs you have on Apple Tooths?

Nehemiah (5:06): Yes, everything's streaming, yes.

Unknown Speaker (5:09): Nice, man. Cool.

Chris (5:10): I can okay. That's all I need to know because now just the singles, right? You don't have you don't have an EP out or anything yet. You just got the singles going.

Nehemiah (5:18): Well, that they're they're those three songs are in an EP together.

Chris (5:22): Oh, perfect. Okay. That's nice. That's one. Yeah.

Chris (5:25): That's one to verify. So there you go. There it is. I left my heart in Minnesota Nehemiah on so the three songs are I left my heart in Minnesota, right?

Unknown Speaker (5:35): Yes.

Chris (5:36): And then Painted Black.

Unknown Speaker (5:39): Yes.

Unknown Speaker (5:40): And then what was the third one?

Unknown Speaker (5:41): Proud Mary.

Chris (5:42): Proud Mary. That's right. Oh, yeah. Proud Mary. Yeah.

Chris (5:45): Because I like how Tina Turner is that Proud Mary, man. I'm excited to hear you do that.

Nehemiah (5:49): And it it might be on the streaming services. I think on Apple Music is still like the name of the name the artist name is Nehemiah of Exotic Vision and Spotify's Exotic Vision. All switching over to the band name, but it's

Unknown Speaker (6:02): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (6:03): Those things.

Unknown Speaker (6:05): So you obviously, you have the band put together now. Who are the other members of your band? How many people?

Nehemiah (6:10): Well, it's just the two of us right now. It's hard to find young guys who want to do the things. That's what we're

Unknown Speaker (6:16): trying Tell me to about it, man. Yeah. That's how I met this guy.

Chris (6:21): Yeah. Yeah. Well, and we met by accident. It's a long it's we've told the story a thousand times. We were at a concert and I was singing along to the lead singer of the band and he kept looking back at me and long version of a short story, a thing, a cling glitched in the matrix on the stage and he turned around and gave me a business card.

Chris (6:40): So are you a singer? And I was like, yeah. And, you know,

Mike (6:44): that was it. My drummer and I had just split with a guy that we had been with for a while, wrote a bunch of songs, played one gig. He wasn't gonna cut it. We were desperate man. And it's fate just has a way of finding you.

Unknown Speaker (6:57): The universe knows what you need when you need it, you know?

Nehemiah (7:00): Yeah, this is true. Yeah. That's the great thing about concerts. They bring people together.

Unknown Speaker (7:06): Like minded for sure. Yeah. Absolutely.

Chris (7:09): So so how give us a little history of who you are and how long you've been doing this and, you know, just what got you into music? What's got you into taking this? Because you went from started in Minnesota and you moved to New York?

Unknown Speaker (7:22): No, he suckered me into it with the song. He's from Maryland, he said.

Unknown Speaker (7:26): From Maryland. So not Okay. Quite as

Unknown Speaker (7:29): But you still, you went to New York purposely, purposefully to go fulfill your dream, right? Chase your dream Exactly. With what you want to Which is no different than Mike going to the West Coast to

Unknown Speaker (7:39): fulfill That's why I the moved to Phoenix.

Chris (7:40): Yeah. Right. So that's a big leap of faith in yourself and that takes a lot of cojones. So we totally respect that. But give us an idea of what kind of where you got to this point where you just said, you know what?

Chris (7:52): I got to go to New York, man. Got to get out there and just kind of just go do it.

Nehemiah (7:57): Basically, I've always been in front of people. I used to speak in church. I used to be one of those little preachers. I used talk in church all the time, sing in church and stuff. So I always had, you know, I always had a voice, and I always had this, like, want for, you know, to go into entertainment.

Nehemiah (8:15): But I thought I was going to go more in the acting side when I was younger, but then I discovered rock and roll. The first like rock star that I, that I discovered was Steven Tyler of Errol Smith. And the first time I cert, I heard him sing Dream On, it just like blew my world Thank you.

Chris (8:32): The first time I heard him sing Hold on Mike. The first time I heard Okay. I didn't really heard of Aerosmith and I went to a concert years and years and years ago, Summer's Last Blast in Arizona, which was Scorpions headlines. Okay. Aerosmith was on their comeback tour.

Chris (8:43): Like they just got through all their chaos. And the only thing I remembered about that concert because when the Scorpions came out, was just like the video was like, dude, there's just so stale. Steven Tyler, and I'm standing in the very back of this thing. I mean, the stage is like this small to me. Right.

Chris (8:56): And I don't know who again, ignorant, don't know who Aerosmith is junior high. Steven Tyler steps to Mike. I want you all to close your eyes and dream on the entire crowd lost their shit. Liars went in the air and then he started singing and I just did like, Oh my God, this is the greatest song ever. It is.

Chris (9:14): That was my intro to Norseman. So I feel you there, man. I feel you a 100%. Yeah.

Nehemiah (9:19): Yeah. It it first the first video I watched of him was the one where he sung it on American Idol when he was a judge. Then, you know, the YouTube wormhole, like, it was after Aerosmith, it was Kiss and Journey, Fleetwood Mac, and I just got exposed. I literally spent my entire high school career just consuming so much live music and stuff. Then I'd like thinking about it, I was like, well, I used to sing, so I just got back into singing, and I was like, well, how do I become Steven Tyler?

Nehemiah (9:52): Well, he's in a band, so I need to find a band and what's the best way to do that? You know, go to the place where all the great bands come through. So that's what led me to New York.

Chris (10:02): There you go. Go ahead, Mike. I'm sorry for cutting you off, but I had to capture the minute.

Unknown Speaker (10:06): No, that was a great story, dude. I'm not sure I've

Chris (10:08): heard that story. You mean how shocking?

Mike (10:12): It is shocking. How old are you?

Unknown Speaker (10:15): I'm 22.

Mike (10:17): There's very few people your age getting into rock and roll, man. So Yes. You're a breath of fresh air and I know people are screaming right now. We're all in a rock and roll, dude. I get it.

Mike (10:28): It's so refreshing to see somebody actually out there doing it like him and I did. Right? Where we had a dream. We were your age. You're living the exact same moment in time we did thirty five years later, right?

Mike (10:42): It's just cool that there's people out there that have the same passion that Chris just told for that story. I've seen Aerosmith myself, man. When you see that song presented the way it was supposed to be, the way he heard it in his head live at that moment in time, and to hear that speech, I didn't get the speech, right? Because that, like he said, that was their comeback tour. They were ready to kick people's ass again.

Mike (11:07): It's just such a religious experience to hear him do that live. It just is

Chris (11:13): right. And then fast forward, I saw their five years ago when they came back. Finally came back on the road after his tenure with with American Idol. They started in Phoenix and I still had my radio show. So I actually got I was actually up in the IHeart Suite looking down and literally looking.

Chris (11:31): I mean, I, you know, it's like I could run and jump out of the suite and fall on the piano, which I didn't do, but he hit that thing like nobody's business. Like, I mean, he nailed it that entire concert of that that night with them. As far as flawlessness at that range right up there when I saw Queen's Reich in their in their heyday of building empires where you just you couldn't find a mistake in the show. Nope. That's how tight Aerosmith was.

Chris (11:57): That's how pure his voice was. And of course now he's aged out five years and has a struggle, which I mean, me a break. He's getting older. Happens. But that that was just as as perfect as it could have as it could have been from when I saw him in 1989 perform it and then from just it which blows my mind because the damage that he did to himself with the drugs and the alcohol and the booze and the smoke and all that kind of stuff It's never

Unknown Speaker (12:24): killed his voice.

Chris (12:26): Yeah. Right. To still be able to sing the way he sings is just phenomenal.

Mike (12:30): But Steven Tyler has that quality just like Nehemiah. Nehemiah has a natural you do too. As a singer, you have to have that's what your character becomes. Right? When you say the name Steven Tyler, the three of us being fans of rock and roll, you hear that voice in your head.

Unknown Speaker (12:46): You see that face. Right?

Unknown Speaker (12:47): Yeah.

Mike (12:48): Right. He's a character. Chris was a character. You're going to become a character. If you don't, you're not gonna be a successful singer, right?

Mike (12:55): People have to put that voice with Nehemiah's name, and you're gonna But do you know that that's your ultimate goal is to draw people into your world for just a little while. Right? That's your job as a front man. Right.

Chris (13:10): Yep. Gotta get there. Gotta get there. We're we're the we're the door, man. That's Mike and I talk about all the time we have bands on that people forget that the singers were the door, we're the gateway.

Chris (13:20): If you can't get past us, you're not getting to the band. And so it's the pressure's on us, man.

Mike (13:29): Unless you're going to a Yani concert, you're going to expect that there's

Chris (13:33): going to be a singer, you know? Yeah. Or Kenny G, man. What about Kenny G, dude?

Unknown Speaker (13:37): Kenny G? I've actually been

Unknown Speaker (13:39): to a Kenny

Unknown Speaker (13:39): G concert in Sun City. So not surprising.

Chris (13:45): Mikey looks at everybody.

Mike (13:49): I steal ideas from everyone as a guitar player and saxophone players are the most fun because they do the same kind of runs.

Chris (13:56): Absolutely. Absolutely. What are what are you in in app and iTunes again, Nehemiah?

Nehemiah (14:03): Yeah, it should be on iTunes too, but like, you know, it's on Spotify, Apple Music, all the big platforms.

Unknown Speaker (14:07): He's asking what's it under Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (14:09): Yeah. Like, what does

Unknown Speaker (14:10): he type in?

Nehemiah (14:11): Oh, just just type in I left my heart in Minnesota and it should come up and you should see like the the planet and the guitar Yeah.

Mike (14:21): Yeah. So I changed my tune. Everybody go to Apple Music and buy his EP.

Chris (14:27): Oh, I gotta do it on me. It won't let me do it on my computer. I don't think. Let's see. Oh, there it is.

Chris (14:33): Open. Don't start playing music. Don't start playing because this is okay. Don't start playing music because you can all of sudden you're starting to hear Whiskey Myers if that happens. That's my last one thing I bought.

Unknown Speaker (14:44): Yeah, that'd be bad.

Unknown Speaker (14:45): Keep talking. I'm just looking. I'm just looking for this

Unknown Speaker (14:47): thing

Unknown Speaker (14:47): so I can share it. You guys keep talking. So do you

Unknown Speaker (14:49): play an instrument, or are you just singing? Because I see a I'm keyboard behind

Nehemiah (14:54): just a singer, and I write lyrics. Like, I wrote the lyrics to I Left My Heart in Minnesota. I wish I played an instrument, you know, it'd make my life a million times easier. No, I

Unknown Speaker (15:03): sympathize with you for sure.

Unknown Speaker (15:05): He wrote I just

Unknown Speaker (15:06): the lyrics and the melody, but you know, you need the music behind it to make that happen. Right.

Nehemiah (15:13): That's, that's the, that's the thing about, you know, getting a band, you know, like Elton John and Bernie Tapping. They're not a band, but you know, you know where I'm going. You know, it's it's yin and yang, you know?

Unknown Speaker (15:24): Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Mike (15:25): I often I wonder that man if you weren't with your guitar player, would you write the same kind of songs? Chris If and I weren't sitting in the same room together, would he have written the same melody? There you go. He's answering the question right away. Absolutely not.

Chris (15:39): Because it's the dynamic. It's being in that space, right? It's the muse. It's feeding off each other's energy. It's feeding off the creativity and cause it's infectious, right?

Chris (15:48): I mean, that sounds cliche.

Nehemiah (15:50): And every, and everybody hears music differently. Hears music and, and creates their expression That is so

Chris (15:58): right there. Because when I met Mike, they already had lyrics to a bunch of the songs that when I came in, when they got, when that singer left and I came in and took over, I wasn't singing his lyrics because personally I thought they were stupid. And, but I took over and then rewrote the songs and then that gave me more street cred because holy shit, you know, I write songs that have me like we were people ask us, you know, often if we would have broke when we when we were heading to break, who would we have sounded like? And I just say we were Creed. We were Creed before Creed was Creed because that's how I wrote.

Chris (16:32): I wrote about life and I wrote about different things. And it wasn't all about getting laid and getting drunk and go finding chicks. It was different things. It was ideology. The first song on the podcast you heard was us.

Chris (16:43): It was a song called Free Man. The last song when we wrap up the show is Listen to Your Sin. And so these are songs that are still relevant today, which is pretty cool because of what they talk about. We were timeless in that, you

Unknown Speaker (16:54): know? Right.

Chris (16:54): And so I agree with you a 100%. You have to have that.

Nehemiah (16:58): Right. And that's what I'm going for in my career, is I want to, you know, if the lyrics to Minnesota, you know, I've been getting tired of this life that I've been leading. All I thought about is when I would be leaving. Like, that was real to me as I was in my hometown trying to get to New York, trying to create a better life for myself and my family. I want to create music that speaks to people on more than just get up and dance level, that really touches their soul.

Nehemiah (17:23): And it stays with them as they grow old. Then, you know, as they grow old, the song takes on a different meaning.

Unknown Speaker (17:32): Yes, for sure. I love you.

Unknown Speaker (17:33): That's a

Unknown Speaker (17:34): great point. Yeah, absolutely. I'm thinking the same thing as I'm listening to him say that.

Chris (17:39): But that's true. There's everybody nowadays is so one hit wonder, one hit wonder. Just let me get this out. Let me get all this electronic mumbo jumbo. Let me auto tune the hell out of everything.

Chris (17:48): I can't really sing, but let me just put all this together and then blast it out there and, and, you know, million downloads and I make $10 and then I go on tour for four years. It's it's just one song and you can't duplicate it live and it just sucks. Be real, man. In a world of music, you need to be real. You need to be raw.

Chris (18:07): You need to do. I mean, as much as I hate David Lee Roth right now, at least he's not going out there and faking it. I still hate him right now because he sounds terrible. It's

Unknown Speaker (18:14): like But

Unknown Speaker (18:15): he

Unknown Speaker (18:15): dying could be playing to a backing track. You're making a good point.

Chris (18:18): Correct. So I mean, he's staying true to who he is, even though he's not listening to everybody telling him to stop. Same with the Scorpions, like just stop, man. Like don't tarnish your legacy. It's time to go away.

Chris (18:28): Triumph came back out, right? You know Triumph Mike. This is a band from the eighties. Nehemiah is a three piece man from Canada. Good band.

Chris (18:36): Kind of didn't have as big as Rush, but kind of in the Canadian world.

Unknown Speaker (18:40): One of the best guitar players that ever graced the instrument. His name's Rick Emmett. Just outstanding. Fantastic.

Chris (18:46): But all their promos for their concert tour, it's all studio track. When you see their little commercials and stuff on Instagram and Facebook trying to get you to end to them, you know, to come see their show, it's all studio track, which tells you what he can't fucking do it live. So don't go do it live, man. Don't tarnish your legacy, please, please agree. I'm not going argue that point at all.

Chris (19:11): Yeah. But this, so I have Nehemiah's single up his little three, three. What do you call it? Three album EP. Don't know how to say that.

Chris (19:19): Nehemiah of Exotic Vision, it's on on the Apple Music app. There's just three songs. You're not assigned

Unknown Speaker (19:25): to a label, are you?

Unknown Speaker (19:26): No. That's the goal though. I'm trying to get a record deal so

Unknown Speaker (19:29): I can Do you care if he plays some of this?

Nehemiah (19:31): No, of course not. I wanted to play it until the cows come home, as they

Chris (19:35): would say. Awesome. It'll do that thing where it'll give me the preview because I haven't bought it yet, but let's see what we can do.

Unknown Speaker (21:13): I like it. I do too, man. I

Unknown Speaker (21:15): like it. Thank you. And then and then, of course, it does this stupid crap. Where did

Unknown Speaker (21:18): you record that at, Nehemiah?

Nehemiah (21:20): I recorded it at a studio, Virtue and Vice here in New York.

Unknown Speaker (21:25): Okay. Yeah. Now is that on the streets where where you basically go in there and and then do you have do you have, like musicians there? Where you go in on your track?

Nehemiah (21:36): The guy who the guy who produced this record, Senator O'Brien. He made music back in the early 2000s. He actually had a record that was, I don't know if it was co produced or produced by Mick Fleetwood or Fleetwood Mac. Oh, nice. But he basically put everything together.

Nehemiah (21:53): He brought the engineer in, the guy that played the the all the instruments. And, Virtue and Vice was a was a really nice studio. I think, like, Cigarettes After Sex had recorded there. John Legend had done some stuff there.

Unknown Speaker (22:06): Yeah.

Nehemiah (22:08): Very nice studio.

Mike (22:09): Yeah. Because the sound quality is really cool.

Chris (22:12): Yeah, it is. And I do, I dig your voice, man. It's a, it's a good I don't know how to I can't put my finger on it. Makes me

Mike (22:20): wanna be a professional producer because I would love to produce that for you for sure. I just I hear so many ideas in my head from years of sitting in the studio myself and coming up with ideas. I love your song. I just I hear different layers and years of experience talking, man, but I

Chris (22:41): love the song. Right. Like the voice. I can't I can't I can't place the voice. It's unique enough that you can't place it, but it sounds very familiar if that makes any sense.

Unknown Speaker (22:52): Thank you. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker (22:53): It does.

Chris (22:53): What mean? You're spot you were supposed to stop saying thank you or you're supposed to tell us fuck off.

Unknown Speaker (22:58): I am. I am. No. You know, you know, it no. Because it's it's it feels good to hear you say that because

Unknown Speaker (23:04): I know. Know.

Nehemiah (23:05): I know. Growing up, you know, I had like a deeper voice, and most pop singers- Oh, And that means like popular or rock stars, they all had these high crazy voices, and I listened to like, Steve Perry of Journey. I was trying to sing faithfully and stuff, and my voice was cracking because I couldn't quite reach those tenor nil.

Unknown Speaker (23:28): That's Steve Perry, man. That's Steve Perry, I That's know you care. Yeah. Steve Perry, man.

Nehemiah (23:34): You know, grow into my own and, you know, really kind of like love my voice in order to gain the confidence to be able to, Right. You

Chris (23:43): And see, I love that you said that too, because from a singer, it's hard, right? Because we're so hard on ourselves because we don't think we sound good.

Mike (23:49): Was just getting ready to say, did you actually like your voice? Like when did, or you were maybe not like it, but when did you actually feel, and I'm asking Chris, I'll ask you the same thing, Nehemiah, but he has about thirty years of singing on you. When was your moment where you were like, yeah, I feel comfortable, and I am owning this character?

Unknown Speaker (24:13): That to me or Chris?

Unknown Speaker (24:16): Chris, I

Chris (24:16): think it's the okay. I I I don't know if I ever mean, believe it or not, dude. I don't know if I ever really reached that point. Really? Because because I always I mean, you know me well enough from from I always knew somebody who's better than me, but I knew that that what I did, nobody could do better than me.

Chris (24:33): But I always knew there were Steven Tyler's out there and Jeff Tate's out there and people like Nehemiah out there that had I don't know. I just I never never

Unknown Speaker (24:42): here's really the got way I the look at what you're saying. Okay. Those are different. That's why music is beautiful, right? It doesn't make Jeff Tate better.

Mike (24:50): We weren't trying to be queens rank. No. Nehemiah's not trying to be Journey, right? He got smart quick. We got smart quick too.

Mike (24:58): We knew our limitations, right? Yeah. We are this. That's what Nehemiah just said. I am this.

Mike (25:04): I figured out who I am. Are you comfortable with your voice yet? Nehemiah?

Unknown Speaker (25:10): Best to you, Nehemiah.

Nehemiah (25:12): Definitely. And I think, you know, I'm I'm beyond excited to see where my voice takes me. Obviously, like, I'm still growing and my voice is still maturing. So what my voice sounds like, now is going to be different in ten years, hopefully stronger and wider range of things like that. But yeah, like I said, going through puberty and your voice dropping and all that stuff, it did come with those, well, why can I do this, or why can I do that?

Nehemiah (25:36): But I think, I love the emotion that I think my voice holds. You know, not to toot my own horn, but I think that, you know, just when I'm singing, it's like, I've heard people say, Oh, I can really feel it. Even when I'm just, you know, singing, like, you know, not doing all this crazy stuff. So,

Mike (25:52): yeah. I can totally relate to that mindset as a guitar player, right? I was to 35, I was winging it, man. So whenever anybody would give me a compliment, it was like, on the inside, I'm thinking, phew. You know?

Mike (26:07): They don't know I really can't play. I flipped that switch maybe five years ago where now I'm in command of what I'm writing. Right? And I wish I would have been there when I was 25, but we were having a blast and we wrote great songs and I'm proud of those songs. There's some of those are still hard for me to play now.

Mike (26:24): Mhmm. But it's fun to hear you say that you know where you're at and where you're going. Right? There's no ego there. There's confidence at the level you're at with the understanding that you want to get so much better.

Unknown Speaker (26:39): Right. That's

Unknown Speaker (26:39): cool. It is cool, man.

Chris (26:41): Yeah. Because I never again, I just I never really got to the point where I was like, okay. I mean, don't believe me wrong. You know me well enough. I walked on stage.

Chris (26:48): I own that shit. But that's why I'm

Unknown Speaker (26:50): asking because I would have never known that you had any kind of insecurity with what you were doing.

Chris (26:56): Yeah. It's humility, man. Want to paint it black. Again, very cool, man.

Unknown Speaker (28:35): Great.

Mike (28:35): Like it. Anytime you can take good understanding melody for sure, man. Yeah. Any anytime you

Chris (28:42): can take a song that's like that, that I mean, it's, you know, it's an iconic song and make it your own, but still stay true to the foundation of it. It's cool because you put your own dynamic on it without really completely changing. Now there's bands that will go in and completely change the song when they cover it. But I think there's something to be said for giving giving homage to the original version of it and just making it your own with your own style of singing, you know, how you did it.

Mike (29:09): So nice job, man. Agreed. Yeah. That one's outstanding for sure, man.

Unknown Speaker (29:18): All respect to the Rolling Stones.

Unknown Speaker (29:20): Oh, yeah. I was just

Unknown Speaker (29:22): listening to those lyrics again going, man, that was sort of outstanding lyrics.

Unknown Speaker (29:26): Yeah.

Mike (29:26): I could not foresee this happening to you. I love that lyric.

Unknown Speaker (29:31): Yeah. No. I gave it. Yeah. What'd what'd I just do?

Unknown Speaker (29:37): Oh, that was primary. My bad. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (29:39): Yeah. He kills this one too. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (31:09): Very cool, man. Very cool. That one, man. Did did you get to the Tina Turner thing where you just go? I

Nehemiah (31:20): don't I don't know. I think we we try we we tried to keep it, like, you know, leveled all the way through, I think.

Unknown Speaker (31:27): Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool. That's cool, man.

Chris (31:30): I dig it. The only the only the only tune I ever covered, man, was Roadhouse Blues for the Doors. The only song I would sing at live that was a cover. Could, but, you know, that was it. And I, I nailed it, you know?

Chris (31:42): Mike knows that. Oh. That was my, that was my The,

Mike (31:47): there was a reporter there one night. There was a music magazine in Phoenix, and back then, we come from the pre Internet days, brother. Mhmm. So we had music rags, they called them. Right?

Mike (31:59): So there was the music voice. There was the new times. There was shit. I don't know. Probably five of them.

Mike (32:04): But those were the two big ones. Mhmm. So that night, we were playing in the Fender Showcase Room, Fender musical instruments. They moved to Scottsdale about the time that I moved to Arizona, so they wanted to have a presence there, so they would have bands come play. And the guitar that I was playing before we got on the show belonged to a friend of mine named Ray Stone.

Mike (32:25): He sold it, didn't know where it ended up. It ended up with another friend. My guitar got stolen. I begged Troy to sell me this guitar. Right?

Mike (32:34): So I show up at work one day and Ray's like, where the fuck did you get that guitar? I said, from Troy. And he's like, that's my guitar. And I'm like, not unless you got $800 And he just started laughing. He's like, you don't understand, dude.

Mike (32:50): Is that serial number blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? And I was like, how would somebody know that? But, yeah, it was. He's like, I bought that guitar originally, never knew where it ended up. And it ended up with a guy we worked with who I bought it from.

Mike (33:03): Ray's just like, what are the chances? Right? I still have it, Ray, if you're listening. Hi, Ray. Ray Stone, come on the podcast and talk about music, brother.

Mike (33:12): Right.

Chris (33:15): Yeah. So we played that song and Music Voice wrote something up about it, which was cool.

Unknown Speaker (33:20): Said it was the best version outside the doors they had ever heard is what they said. I

Nehemiah (33:24): just got, a blog, a review on a David Bowie cover I did, which was really cool.

Unknown Speaker (33:31): Heard that one too, man.

Unknown Speaker (33:32): That was good. Yeah. What, what Bowie song? Ziggy Stardust.

Unknown Speaker (33:38): Oh, wow. That's a, that's a big song, man.

Nehemiah (33:41): Who wrote you up about that one? Nehemiah. His name was believe it's John Maga I don't I'm no. I'm gonna butcher his last name, but it was like John Magalor, Maganori. He's he's been doing like a a bully blog for, like, ten years or something.

Nehemiah (33:59): So he just like hit me up. Yeah. He just hit me up. He was like, I love the cover. I'd love to do a write up on you.

Nehemiah (34:04): I was like, go for it.

Unknown Speaker (34:07): No, thank you. Yeah. No, I'm good.

Unknown Speaker (34:10): That's awesome, man. Congratulations.

Chris (34:12): Thank you. So what are you doing in New York and as far as trying to find what's your approach to find other musicians? What are you doing to kind of get those like minded people around you?

Nehemiah (34:24): You know, you know, Facebook groups, going to open mics, going to, you know, shows, and, you know, just advertising. That's really what I've been trying to do. But like I said, it's it's been, you know, rough trying to because, you know, especially guys my own age are, like, you know, college and work and all this stuff. So so many different commitments, especially living here in New York in such a a crazy city. It's like everybody has a billion things to do.

Nehemiah (34:51): So, you know, it's been it's been a little slower than I would have hoped and anticipated, but, you know, you know, we're still out here. We're still doing the thing. Like me, I work a full time job. My guitar player, Alex, he's a reporter for a French French news company. So he's working full time.

Nehemiah (35:12): Your guitar player speaks French? My guitar player is French.

Unknown Speaker (35:17): Oh, wow. Right on.

Unknown Speaker (35:20): My guitar player is French.

Unknown Speaker (35:21): Now where'd you find him? Where'd you find Alex?

Unknown Speaker (35:24): Facebook, man. Oh, shit. That

Mike (35:27): is interesting. I'm glad Chris asked that question because I've kind of wondered, and we've never had the opportunity to ask a young musician, how do you put a band together nowadays? We used to go to clubs and I don't know. We went to clubs. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (35:42): That's where I met Chris.

Unknown Speaker (35:44): Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker (35:45): now you guys are using the Internet, obviously, which is a great tool.

Nehemiah (35:49): Right. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm sure, you know, I I like to put my hand in every different jar, you know, going out to open mics and all that kind of stuff. Just trying to find, you know, good people, you know, e even if it's not to be in the band, just to network, because you never know who you're gonna need down the road, so

Mike (36:07): Absolutely. That's smart. I used to go meet other music, like sound men, light men. That's how we got our gig at the Electric Ballroom. I knew the guy that ran sound there.

Unknown Speaker (36:17): Right.

Chris (36:18): So you, you need to be that guy. Just go to, go to, go to like local dive bar concerts, right? Shows. Right. And then just find that fantastic band and just approach them after the show and say, I need you to be my drummer.

Chris (36:31): I need you to be my bass player. You know, you can, you can keep this, you go all you want, but because really that's when you hear it. Because again, the way Mike and I met Mike heard it. I didn't have to audition. I'm standing in a crowd of probably two, three thousand people and I'm singing along with Kevin Martin from Candlebox.

Chris (36:48): So number one, knew I could sing. We just made him to make sure he wasn't a serial killer. Right. Number two, he knew I could, they could sing in front of people with no recourse with no fear. Right?

Chris (37:00): So but so had he not gone to that show and vice versa, we wouldn't be sitting here. So I would tell you just go to shows, go to local dive bars, you know, those the bands that play in front of two people and 30 people then 300 people as they climb up that ladder. Once you once you find it, once you hear it, you will know it. That's great advice. And they just, you just walk up to me after the show.

Chris (37:23): Hey, This is who I am. This is take take something that your product of your work. Listen to this. My number's on the back. Let me know if you want to jam.

Chris (37:31): This is what I want to do. I want to take over the world. Do you want to come along? Because I think you're going to get more. I know I can be completely wrong to you because I'm not in the music scene anymore, but no, think you get more traction.

Chris (37:42): He's saying,

Mike (37:43): if you go back and look at the history of all and I'm so proud that you're so young and you love all the great bands. If you go look at the history of Black Sabbath and like Led Zeppelin and The Doors and those guys actually did exactly what Chris just said. They would have two members and they would go hang out at a club. They call them pubs in England, right? They're hanging out at the pub, and they would see John Bonham playing drums and John Paul Jones or no.

Mike (38:12): It was Robert Plant told Jimmy Page, you have to have this guy in your band. I I'm not sure if they played together. They knew each other. They were friends. He said, there's no other drummer in the world.

Mike (38:22): This is the guy you need. Right? Yeah. Right. You're gonna find the same thing with your networking connections, but Chris is right.

Mike (38:28): If you go one step further and you go see an outstanding band that has the bass player you're looking for with that groove that you know is gonna work with your voice, Same thing with the drummer or keyboard player. You know what you're looking for as a singer just like he did. There was a sound that Chris heard in his head that was gonna work with his voice. Every singer knows that. Right.

Unknown Speaker (38:51): His advice is I understand.

Chris (38:52): Even though I didn't really know at the time We were with I would give Mike a song. I would give Mike a set of lyrics and I'd be like, dude, write me a song for this. I come back next practice. And he nailed it. Like, he's the only person in my entire life of of being around four or five other bandmates that could take that lyric and match it musically.

Mike (39:14): My only gift on a guitar. Thank you for saying that is I can convey emotion. If you want something to I used to listen to some of the craziest music and rest in peace. Scott would always come to my defense and say, you better be careful making fun of Mike because he can write riffs that'll melt your face off. Because he's listening to Madonna doesn't mean that's what he plays.

Mike (39:37): Right? I like everything, man.

Unknown Speaker (39:41): Mhmm. Yeah. Me thank you

Mike (39:42): for that compliment. But that is my one gift on an instrument is I can make a guitar emotional. That was always my goal. So I'm proud of that gift.

Chris (39:53): Yeah. And I I think I think if you do, if you even I mean, do how you're gonna do it. But if you if you throw this into your arsenal of finding musicians, because you love being on stage, right? You love feeling the energy. You love you love feeding off the crowd, even if it's just loud, Mike, there's still something there.

Chris (40:10): Right? Exactly. If you're going to open mics, you're going to pick up more so singers than you are musicians themselves. But if you start going to little shows at the high bars and stuff, then you can start focusing on like, you know, like Mike and Mike and Scott were together before I came in. And then once I came in, then we got a bass player.

Chris (40:27): So you got guitars and you

Mike (40:29): think about it, Nehemiah, I did exactly what Chris is advising you to do. Was at that gig that night for candle box because I wanted to see him play live. Like Chris said, had I said fuck it and just stayed home, we wouldn't even be doing this podcast because I would have never met this guy, you know? It's crazy how the universe works, man. I love his advice Yeah.

Chris (40:49): And I probably never would have would ever would have played in a band again because I wasn't looking for it anymore. Had my little

Unknown Speaker (40:55): room crazy with part the that I didn't know till we started this podcast. That you weren't even looking to be in a band at that time.

Chris (41:01): I was just, I was just there singing, man.

Unknown Speaker (41:05): He thought he was annoying me. He's like, I thought I was pissing you off. Yeah.

Chris (41:08): But I would, I would try that, man. I would try that next couple weekends. Just go check out some bands and see if somebody just stands out. Because what are they gonna tell you to do? No, but you know, hey, this is who I am.

Chris (41:18): This is what I'm doing. This is where I want to go. You know, I like your sound. I like either your vibe, whatever, you know, the cool

Unknown Speaker (41:25): thing is he has a product. Can say, hey man, I got three songs two: on iTunes. Do you got? You know, Speaker Yeah, Mike

Unknown Speaker (41:30): had a business card, dude.

Unknown Speaker (41:32): Speaker That was a big deal back then, dude.

Unknown Speaker (41:34): Speaker was a big deal.

Unknown Speaker (41:35): Listen, I have a business card too.

Chris (41:37): We're glad, you got music too Yeah. He turned around business card desperate angel Mike Michaels guitar phone number I was like okay. And it's funny because he said it was desperate for a singer right desperate angel that didn't last long because then I don't know two months or so later I came to practice I'm like we're gonna change our name to nemesis What? And you know, there we are.

Unknown Speaker (42:02): Yeah.

Chris (42:04): I would do that. I would try that approach and just see if you get, see if you get success with that. I mean, dig how you're doing on Facebook, but you can't really, you can't feel that emotion, right? I mean, we can feel it sometimes when we're doing this, can, we, some, some of our guests have such a really good presence. You can feel it, you know, but to truly feel the presence of a musician, think you got to be in that room with them.

Unknown Speaker (42:25): You got

Chris (42:25): to see how they're playing off the crowd and, you know, and how they're feeding off the music and how they're portraying that music to the crowd, you know, and again, whether it's two people or 2,000 people, you still that to me is more indicative of the artist. If they're standing there in front of just the wait staff, you know, and a couple of friends and family members playing like it's an arena rock show versus in front of 2,000 people and playing like an arena rock show. If you're doing the same, Andrew Wood was brilliant with that mother love bone. Don't know if you've ever heard of him. Mother Love Bone is kind of the door that opened up Seattle along with Mud Hutty and some of those younger earlier bands in the Seattle grunge sound.

Chris (43:07): But everybody Mother Love Bone was the original backing of any veteran Pearl Jam. But Andrew Wood, he had the mindset no matter what he played in front of it was the last show he's ever going to play and he was going to treat it like that. So he treated like it was a Rainer Rock show every single night. It didn't matter if they were playing to a janitor or playing to a packed house. That's how we played.

Chris (43:29): Right. So when you when you do that as a band, which when you get your band together, you're going to feel that then you can feel that energy and you can feel the rawness of it. So keep doing what you're doing. You do whatever you want to do. I just think this would be a good thing to add to your arsenal.

Chris (43:42): Look at

Unknown Speaker (43:43): those guy families

Chris (43:43): and just definitely see if you can find somebody that just blows your socks off because if he blows your socks off, what do think is gonna add to your music? And you've got about Rick in the bass player. Changed the dynamic of our songs like you wouldn't believe it blew my mind.

Mike (43:56): Like, Scott, got to remember is you have to exist with these people. Know, you're you want to do this professionally. We were a family, man. These people are gonna be. You're gonna spend more time with them than you do your family, right?

Unknown Speaker (44:09): So they are your family.

Chris (44:11): Mhmm. Right.

Mike (44:12): You gotta like these people. So I I tend to agree with him again. You wanna feel that energy, right? I knew who he was right away. I knew he could sing.

Unknown Speaker (44:22): I knew he wasn't an asshole.

Unknown Speaker (44:24): Mhmm.

Mike (44:26): All we had to do is have like three beers together. It's like, let's go jam, you know? Yeah. Right. I mean, you feel that.

Mike (44:32): So that's kind of what he's saying to you is you can get a little bit of a feel for somebody online, but until you're standing in front of them and you're talking to them, I think part of the reason we can feel it here is we're having a real genuine conversation. Right? We didn't know you from Adam an hour ago, but now forty five minutes into it, I feel like I kind of know who you are. You can feel a little bit of that. You don't get that with seeing someone play music on the Internet.

Unknown Speaker (44:59): I agree with him a million percent.

Unknown Speaker (45:02): Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

Unknown Speaker (45:04): it's only gonna make your music stronger. The only Yeah. Reason I

Nehemiah (45:08): Yeah. Yeah. And that's the whole goal to, to make great records and just blow people's socks off. That's what I want exotic vision to be. I want it to be something that, you know, has that essence of, like, old rock and roll, but, you know, with the modern -: original voice, where it's, like, rooted in emotion, but also, you know, you know, you can party too.

Nehemiah (45:29): So

Unknown Speaker (45:30): -:

Unknown Speaker (45:30): Yeah. And if you I love

Mike (45:31): want a great example of what he just described to you, if you have never heard Mother Love Bone, go listen to Stardog Champion when you get off here. Just type it in Stardog Champion, Mother Love Bone, and you recreate that emotion that he put into that song and you'll be a superstar. Yep. It's amazing.

Unknown Speaker (45:53): God shit. God shit.

Mike (45:54): Yeah. He captured that emotion and that feeling on a record because every time I hear that, there is no volume loud enough for that song. There just isn't.

Chris (46:04): Nope. And there's there they are on the screen. That's Mother Love Bone. The other thing, I don't know, because, again, we just met you. Once you get the band together, I would champion you and the band to go play a 100 shows before you lay any tracks down.

Chris (46:20): Everything changes when you play it live. Everything. With Nemesis, we played live and practiced, I don't even thousands and thousands of hours before we went to Mark's apartment. And I went to the bathroom, and we shut the door, and I I laid down vocals to music. It changes everything.

Chris (46:36): The last band I was in, we didn't play out live because they just didn't. So all the tracks are laid down. There was no live sessions behind it. I just the end product to me, the end product to me would have been so much better. Had we been playing them live for a year before recording because I, as a vocalist, which, you know, when you're on stage, everything is faster.

Chris (46:59): The timing is going to be a little bit different. Your energy is going be different. You're going to go into these pockets where you want to improv through a song that you don't necessarily think of doing when you're sitting in a in a jam session with the band or sitting in the studio and it changes the dynamic, changes the directory. You can create these cool little interweaving workings of different stuff within these songs and have, you know, just nuances that would never have been there had you not been doing it live and playing it in front of a crowd.

Mike (47:25): Yeah, I can remember a 100 times where I would look over at him like, woah, where are we going now? You know? Because the song was not I never played the song the same way twice, so why would I expect him? You know, that was one rule we had is there's gonna be a lot of improv in this shit. We're gonna record it one way, but when we're on stage, we he's describing it exactly the way we played.

Mike (47:45): We went with the flow every night. Sometimes there was an extra measure in shit, you know? Right. Sometimes his melody would extend a minute longer than it normally would just because he was in the zone, you know? It's like, he's there.

Unknown Speaker (47:57): We're gonna go with him.

Nehemiah (47:58): Right. Erica Badu would always say, you know, being in the studio is trying to perfect something, and then being on stage is trying to just create a moment. And I totally agree because music, it it moves you differently.

Mike (48:12): Call the studio controlled chaos. Right? You're trying to capture a Chris just described it. You're trying to capture a live I'm talking rock and roll, pop and classical. That's all different recording.

Mike (48:26): Right? But a rock and roll band wants their record, if they're smart, to sound like they do on stage as much as possible. Right? So that's why he's saying, if you haven't played that song a 100 times in front of people, it's never going to record the same way. Agree with that so much because he's experienced both sides of it.

Mike (48:47): I've experienced both sides of it. The last band I was in, we tried to create a band in the studio. And let me tell you, that doesn't work. Mm-mm. It's too sterile, man.

Mike (48:59): Never develop that relationship that him and I did with him having a pad of paper and a pen and me laying on the couch jamming through my practice amp, you know, just playing until he would go, Hey, what's that? You know? Do that again. Right.

Unknown Speaker (49:16): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (49:18): How many times Right. Yeah. You want me to do

Chris (49:20): So you've probably heard of Chris Cornell, right?

Unknown Speaker (49:22): Yes.

Chris (49:23): Soundgarden. Okay. So Chris Cornell and Andrew Wood were roommates. Okay. From my level, they used to have songwriting contests where they would challenge each other to write a new song.

Chris (49:33): They would go into their bedroom, shut their doors. They had all their little four, four, eight track, four track recorders and shit. They would go lay down. Would record their song and then come out the next day or two days later and they would, they would play each other their songs and they would, they would contract. What's the word?

Chris (49:49): What's the word? Critique, critique their songs and then they would go back and make them better. And then, and then Mike, I didn't know this, but, but, the singer for Candlebox actually was a roommate with Andrew Wood too. I can kind of assume that they probably did the same shit because Andrew Wood lived and breathed the music. That's all he did.

Chris (50:07): The dumbass that he was, he got hooked on heroin, which is why he's not already here. But had he not the trajectory of his life would have just been stratosphere. So constantly moving, constantly working, trying constantly trying to change the song and make it that much better, that much better. So when you listen to mother love bone, it's the only thing they ever laid down. Those songs are only songs ever laid down, but it stands the test of time It like legit.

Chris (50:29): You're going to love it just because it's pure rock and roll with an arena rock vibe when arena rock vibe wasn't a thing yet. Grudge wasn't really a thing yet. It's it's it's it's good. Think we're

Mike (50:40): literally creating the blueprint for what we call grunge nowadays. Like he said, that there just wasn't a word for it. There wasn't music. I had a friend that went out to Washington state and they brought back Louder Than Love by Soundgarden in 1986. And it changed my world, man.

Mike (51:00): But nobody had heard that sound yet. And if you listen to that album, it's really not grunge anyway. It's somewhere between, like Chris said, arena rock and this new kind of sound. Right? But there was enough of that new kind of sound.

Mike (51:15): If you listen to the song louder than love, that riff is just outstanding.

Unknown Speaker (51:19): Yeah. It

Unknown Speaker (51:19): sucks you right in.

Chris (51:21): Mhmm. All

Mike (51:23): of a sudden here comes Pearl Jam, but we didn't know that they were the remnants of mother love bone until later. Chris taught me that when I joined Nemesis in 1990 or when he joined in 1993 or '4. Yeah. Like he was so into this man. I'm like, I gotta know who they are and what they're about.

Mike (51:39): He's like, you know, they're basically Pearl Jam without this guy that died. Right?

Chris (51:43): It's like Alter Bridge is Creed without without Scott Stapp. Correct. You know, replace Miles Kennedy. You have a whole different band, a whole different, you know, but same musician, same foundation, but it's a whole different different, different trajectory. As soon as

Unknown Speaker (51:55): you put that voice. Mhmm. That different voice.

Chris (51:58): Your voice needs this type of musician behind it. So I, I, I mean, I dig how you're doing it. I just think throw that in the arsenal and let us know how that goes. Because I think, I think if you find, if you find people that wow you, then you're gonna wow them and that's gonna change the

Mike (52:15): dynamic I can't what you do, wait to hear you with what he's describing. This badass, we're all be I would love to be I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it because I would love to be on the I'm behind Nehemiah train just like I was behind Chris, you know? There's something about knowing, and I knew. I'm walking onto stage with a murderer, you know? This guy is gonna slay people, whether he knows it or not, and he had no ego.

Mike (52:42): It wasn't, here's how we're gonna do things. You know, we were one all for one and one for all. We were a band, man. Absolutely. But I knew in my mind, no matter who is on that bill with us, I have a murderer walking on stage.

Unknown Speaker (52:56): I'm gonna be just fine.

Unknown Speaker (52:58): Yeah. Right.

Mike (52:59): And we were every night. We just kept getting better gigs and better gigs and opening for national acts. It's like, then metal blade came calling and you know, now a record label wants you and you're like, wow, man. I achieved my dream, you know? There's no bragging.

Mike (53:13): There's no ego. It's just me being a musician and saying, I did what I set out to do. I left this cornfield. I moved 2,000 miles away. I started a band.

Mike (53:23): Now we're signing a record deal. It's just it's outstanding.

Nehemiah (53:26): That's the dream. That's the dream.

Unknown Speaker (53:28): Is, man. I'm excited for you.

Chris (53:30): Yeah. So if people wanna find Nehemiah, how do they find you, man?

Nehemiah (53:34): You can find me on all the social media platforms, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, triple L, Nehemiah, triple L. I post constantly posting reels, updates about things of, like, my live gigs and stuff right now. We're we're doing mostly acoustic stuff. Okay. We might we might do some, like, busking here in New York, try to, you know, expand our reach a little bit more, but really we're just looking for a couple guys that want to create a kick ass rock and roll band and, you know, get a record deal so that way we can explode our music to the world, you know?

Chris (54:10): Yeah. That's awesome. When you're doing your shows acoustically, how long are the sets typically?

Unknown Speaker (54:19): Forty five minutes usually.

Chris (54:21): Cool. Yeah. Right on. I'm assuming it's a mix of originals and covers?

Unknown Speaker (54:26): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (54:27): Cool. Cool. How many originals do you have right now?

Nehemiah (54:30): Right now I have just, I left my heart in Minnesota and then we're working on a few more that we're going to start introducing and we want to get some recorded for 2027.

Chris (54:41): Cool. So man, triple L, Nehemiah, triple L on all the social media platforms that how you find this man, check them out. You can also go on, on, oh my gosh, Apple music, What other platforms can you buy music Mike? Cause I just go to Apple.

Unknown Speaker (54:59): Those are the two big ones.

Unknown Speaker (55:01): Those are the two big Are

Unknown Speaker (55:02): you on Amazon?

Unknown Speaker (55:03): Yeah, it's on Amazon too.

Chris (55:05): Okay. And same concept. I left my heart in Minnesota is going to pull you up. Yep. Right.

Chris (55:10): And there's three songs on that thing. I challenge you all by the whole thing. Don't go one

Unknown Speaker (55:13): side because he's got a great voice.

Unknown Speaker (55:15): He's gonna

Unknown Speaker (55:16): go far.

Chris (55:17): I always buy the album, man. That's why I asked you if you had an EP. I just don't buy one song. I buy the whole thing. Even if I don't like the whole thing, I still buy the whole thing.

Chris (55:25): Sometimes I'm disappointed because you know, you'll buy this whole, you know, I like my wife loves Luke Bryan. Right. So we, I bought his two albums because on each album has one of her favorite songs. The rest of the songs on his album suck. Like he's one song and both albums are good.

Unknown Speaker (55:38): That's the whole idea. They just suck people Right.

Chris (55:40): That's the sucks, man. So you still have to buy the whole album because you have to support the artist because they are going out there on a ledge and saying, is me. This is me. I'm being vulnerable. By my music.

Chris (55:50): Support me. Let me let me entertain you, man. Because that's what it's all about. You're phenomenal, man. So I want you to come back with us once you get your band together and once you've you've done some shows and stuff and once you get to the point where you can record a full length album or full length EP, EP is eight songs, right?

Unknown Speaker (56:08): It's usually five.

Unknown Speaker (56:10): Five? Okay. Yeah. When you get to the point where you're gonna record again, you got a band, definitely come back on. Let's get the band on.

Chris (56:15): We've had the entire bands on before in the AMI. It's been pretty cool because, you know, whole this whole screen is filled with musicians.

Unknown Speaker (56:20): It's it's quite epic. It gets crazy. It's fun.

Unknown Speaker (56:23): Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I was so Go ahead.

Nehemiah (56:27): I'd I'd love to. I'd love to do that. So.

Mike (56:30): Cool. Be awesome. Anytime you have any news that you want to promote, man, you'd like, you don't have to wait for your whole band, but like, I agree with Chris. When, if you get to that point before you have news, but if you have things that you want to talk about, come back anytime, man. This has been awesome.

Unknown Speaker (56:44): I will. Thank you guys for having me.

Chris (56:46): Yeah. You got my number now and we got your email. So don't, don't be shy, man. Reach out. Again, it's triple L, Nehemiah l l l on all the social media platforms.

Chris (56:55): You can find him on Spotify and Apple Music. Just type in on those two platforms. I left my heart Minnesota. You'll find his three song EP, which is a left me heart Minnesota, proud Mary and a paint a black two covers on there that are pretty bad ass. We listened to them earlier on the show.

Chris (57:09): So check him out, do him a solid, help support his career. Going to climb to the charts and one day he's going to like, you know, going to get a Grammy and he's going to reference the Chris and Mike show. We'll like, Hey man, hey man.

Unknown Speaker (57:21): We'll be happy to say yes.

Chris (57:24): Where were they? Right now, now unfortunately if you're feeling depressed and suicidal which I don't know how you could be because we're talking to Nehemiah here who's you know he's taking him to take over the world I mean that's nothing more positive than that but go journal go scream at a pillow go run outside go find somebody to you. You cannot find somebody talk to you. There's a website called sunflowerssober.com is absolutely free, has all kinds of resources for you to kind of change your mindset and get the help you need. If you're not feeling that you can go to Apple and Google play ZOBI with a space AI.

Chris (57:55): It's a really cool AI centric therapist, but it's going to help work you through your problems, things like that. A friend of ours, Eric Zink, developed those developed that app. So he's somebody who's huge in the recovery world. So it's worth your while to do that. Tomorrow's a better day with you waking up in it.

Chris (58:11): So don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you chose not to. For the Chris and Mike Show, I'm Chris He's Mike. This is Nehemiah Bailey. Again, triple L Nehemiah triple L and all the social media platforms. Go check him out, follow him, find his music, show him some love.

Chris (58:24): Until next time, we'll see

Unknown Speaker (58:25): you later. Peace. Thanks again, Nehemiah. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (58:28): Thank you.

Unknown Speaker (58:30): Love you brother.

Unknown Speaker (58:31): Love you, brother.

Unknown Speaker (58:32): Love you guys too. I'll see you guys soon.

Unknown Speaker (58:34): Don't leave yet. Don't sign off. Hold on. Oh.