April 5, 2026

#188 - The Timelessness of Classic Albums

#188 - The Timelessness of Classic Albums
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Chris and Mike explore their favorite albums, legendary bands, and the intangible qualities that make music timeless. They share personal stories, discuss iconic artists, and analyze what makes certain songs and bands stand out in the world of rock and roll.

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It's all.
About the rock'n'roll coochie

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COO Uh huh.
Felt a little spicy today.

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Yeah.
I'm going to tell you.

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Oh.
Give me a bottle of anything.

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And a glazed doughnut.
To go to go.

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You had no idea what I was
thinking today and then you just

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said that.
That's crazy dude, I love that

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album.
I'm.

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Going to make it so quite clear.
Hi boys and girls, this is

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Chris.
I'm Mike.

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Or maybe not.
Maybe it's the other way around.

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Hey, we can do it backwards
today.

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So Mike's like, hey, dude, you
know, I'm going to name a band.

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I want you to tell me your
favorite album.

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And then I was like, he had no
idea that I had one of my crates

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of my albums out.
This is fun because I didn't

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realize that was what was inside
this.

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This is Ultra Bridge Walk the
Sky double album.

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Check out what's inside of it as
I just opened it up.

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Let me see.
Fucking autograph picture.

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Oh.
That's all.

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So it was captivating to me or
intriguing when we talked to

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Neander Paul, because I asked
the question, you know, why

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isn't Alter Bridge who they are
and why aren't they famous and

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he's.
You know I love his answer.

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Because they, they've never had
they've, they've never had that

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one hit, which is mind boggling
to me because, because I mean,

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I'm a fan.
As a SO.

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I'm so I'm skewed right, but
some of the stuff I just it

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blows my mind that they didn't.
It's not a, there's not a hit.

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Well, he, he kept using that
word stank, right?

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And for people that don't
understand what that means, it

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means there's an intangible
quality to your your music that

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you cannot understand why people
like certain bands.

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You know, why are ACDC the
biggest band in the world?

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It's because they write great
songs, but they also have an

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intangible quality that nobody
can ever put their finger on.

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They just understand it makes
them want to move.

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Right.
For some reason, Alter Bridge

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just never made anybody want to
move on that level except you

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and I and you know.
And they haven't deputies still,

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Yeah, they.
Sell out theaters and.

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They do.
They read the both times I've

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seen the marquee, it was packed.
I'll make it legitimately was

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this.
I mean, thank God I was in the I

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was on, you know, right here's
the stage.

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But when I turned and looked
it's like holy shit, they said

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you can't see an open space.
No, and people are missing out

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because they are a fantastic
live band.

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Just perfection you.
Know and the cool the cool thing

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about the the second time I saw
them the opening act was was

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mammoth his first Oh awesome
right.

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And then obviously the
relationship with with them and

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and Wolfgang carried over to
this, their latest album, where

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they recorded the entire thing
in the 5150 studio at Eddie's

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house.
And there's another great band

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that people should give a
chance.

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If you haven't listened to
Mammoth, which was Eddie's son's

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band, Wolfgang, he played every
instrument on the album

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rock'n'roll style, just like
Prince did in the pop world, you

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know?
Oh, invasion of your privacy?

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Uh huh, dude.
See.

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You're in love.
Oh, that.

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Lay it down.
Right laying Down is one of the

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favorite guitarists of all time.
Yes.

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That Thing Changed might be the
two best ever written.

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Yeah, just the just the opening
riff of Lay It Down was fucking

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fantastic.
You cannot not hit the volume

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knob when that happens.
No.

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Remember these guys?
David, David, what was their hit

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dude?
Boomtown Welcome to the

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Boomtown, OH.
That's a great.

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Song.
That's Yeah, it is.

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That's the only reason Miska's
treated jabs in 9440.

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Satisfaction oozes from a pole.
That's a hose.

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Remember in The Sopranos, when
they go to, what's his name, the

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Jewish guy that Hesh, they go to
Hesh and he's running the record

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label and like, I don't hear a
hit.

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It's like, well, what's a hit?
And he's like, I don't know, but

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that's not it.
You.

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Know.
So this is this is this is funny

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true story.
Oh, I was gifted that record.

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You want to know the true story?
Yes.

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I lost my virginity to this
album.

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Fantastic.
Yeah.

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I've never actually, I've never
actually acknowledged that to

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the girl that I lost my
virginity to.

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So if you're watching this show,
you know who you are.

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You did.
You popped by Jerry this rainy

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rose live.
Here's another one.

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Here's another one.
This is a disappointing if if

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it's disappointing now because
the lead singer is is a a small

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blimp and because it's just,
it's such a phenomenal voice and

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it's just so sad to see that
he's allowed himself to get so

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unhealthy.
Really.

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Yeah, Mike Reno, dude is
fucking.

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It's so unhealthy.
He's I haven't seen him these

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days, but I don't what I don't
voice back in the.

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Day.
Oh my God.

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Right.
Unbelievable.

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Voice.
I don't know if I've ever

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admitted this, but Hot Blooded
is what made me want to play

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guitar.
Really.

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Yeah.
I heard that riff on the radio

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when I was super young.
Whenever that came out, you

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know, I might have been 8-9.
So here's, you know, everybody

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has a little bit of gayness in
them.

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Here's my gay side I.
Was going to say, what are you

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trying to say?
The little boy's gay.

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No. 10,000 Oh I love 10,000
maybe.

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Right.
I know, but a lot of people like

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dude, you're gay.
Well, you know, you're a

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songwriter and they write great
songs.

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Oh yeah, and Natalie Merchant.
Dude this is 0.

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Fucking what?
A voice?

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Yeah, yeah.
God Dang, I don't have my

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glasses I don't recognize.
It's it's Cheap Trick Dream

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Police, one of the most
underrated bands ever.

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When they were inducted to the
Hall of Fame, it was, it was a,

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it was a just a, a, a a lineage
of who's who that has just,

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they're one of those bands well.
Here's a huge example.

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When Chris logged on, I was
jamming as I usually am.

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I used that as practice time.
Right, Right.

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About 80% of the licks he was
listening to were directly

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stolen from Cheap Trick
themselves.

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Oh yeah, Robbie Krieger and the.
Boys.

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Yep, Yep, The Doors sold more
albums than The Beatles in the

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60s in America.
The Doors did.

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That's a fact.
That is a fact.

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They were the biggest band in
America.

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They were the biggest.
This, this, this.

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So these guys, I had a 113
pictures of them on the walls

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when I was a teenager.
Oh, I had quite a few myself

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too.
Yeah, this guy, just this guy

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just died, Francis.
Yeah.

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He's dead now.
Now the the disappointing thing

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is, is when they had avhs of
this right of this entire album

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which was fucking phenomenal.
Yeah, I watched it about a

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bazillion times.
Myself to to to where the little

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lines of the VHS start
crackling.

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Yeah, the bottoms all fuzzy and.
Right.

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So I found it, I found it
online, I found it on YouTube

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and I was disappointed because
either number one, I don't

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remember how I, I thought I did
and #2 it wasn't, it wasn't the

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same cut.
It's like a bunch of stuff out

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which I was like, but that's
fucking stupid.

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You know, another one that
happened to for me that I've

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watched a million times as well
was that priest Live that came

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out in the 80s.
I've never found a decent copy

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of that.
Yeah, So when I was a child, I

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didn't understand what Edom Edom
and smile meant.

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I do now.
We get and this, this.

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I saw David Lee Roth on this
tour.

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I like to back a road.
I did too.

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He opened up for Cinderella.
Yeah, he was.

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He was headlining when I saw.
Him or wait, it was, it was.

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I got that backwards.
So there you go.

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Yeah.
And it was at the Veterans

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Memorial Coliseum.
And I remember the cool thing

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that he did.
This was the height of him, I

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think.
I think because he was

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phenomenal.
He didn't record.

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Outstanding dude.
He, he wasn't drunk, he wasn't

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an asshole.
He he just, he just sang.

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He was a showman.
It was.

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It was pretty cool.
He.

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Surfed Steve Vyat.
Yeah, and.

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Billy Sheen Yep.
Yep.

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And he surfed.
He had this giant surfboard from

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the back of back of OK, He did
the U2, yeah, back of back of

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Veterans Board Coliseum and he
surfed down onto the stage.

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I saw him at the Peoria Civic
Center.

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OK, same thing.
Cool.

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I must have been about 15, maybe
01 of the greatest selling

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albums of all time.
Right, right.

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So when I dropped little men off
today, I was wearing my red

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shirt that says vinyl on it.
And the the the teacher that

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patrols the playground, he's
like you in the records.

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How'd you guess?
Because I could have been a

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Dick.
What do you think, dumb ass?

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But I was like, yeah, man,
what's up this 15 minute

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conversation about vinyl records
and sound systems and shit?

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When his dad came home from
Vietnam, he brought all the

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speaker shit with him because he
did they weren't selling that

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shit in America.
So he he package mailed home

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like pioneer speakers and
turntables and shit and like had

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the whole set up.
I'm like, that's cool.

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That's.
Awesome, just from wearing my

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vinyl shirt.
The Unforgettable Fire, the one

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that that that now the cooling
like this one.

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It was the promo.
Oh, that's awesome.

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The promo.
The promo.

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I got a good one for you
yesterday.

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I was walking out of the casino
and I'm wearing my Sacred Wreck

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shirt.
And that was.

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The only guy out of the whole
casino, he was walking in as I

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was walking out, he's like,
yeah, man, nice shirt.

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I say.
Yeah, We opened up for him about

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200 times, so we had to stop and
talk about it for a second.

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Very cool.
Now you had referenced ACDC.

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Oh, is that the Power Up album?
Yes.

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I like that album.
Yep.

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They took some shit for that
one, but what are you going to

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do when your primary songwriter
dies?

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Right.
Power.

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I think there's some good stuff
on there.

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I jammed that on my way back and
forth to Michigan one time.

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Oh, right on.
What else we got in the record

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collection today?
Oh, oh, look at these young,

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young bucks.
That would be The Rolling

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Stones.
The.

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Stones, the big hits, high tide
and green grass.

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The real.
Call me crazy, but if they keep

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practicing, I think they're
going to become something.

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Yeah, probably the cool thing
about this album is the in the

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in inset, it's paper.
So if I can do this already,

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it's paper.
Like it's just paper, you know

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what I mean?
It's like a book.

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Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, that's what we missed

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today in albums.
And then, ironically enough,

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like Neander Paul was talking
about, you know, albums are

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coming back and, you know, this
was probably like $5, you know,

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and now they're like 50.
I've seen CDs that are out of

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print that people are asking
just outrageous money for, which

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is why I don't own a copy of
that Badlands album that him and

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I talked about.
Yeah, one of the the bands that

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Neander Paul loves.
Oh yeah, me too.

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And and had it not been from
Mötley Crüe, they would have

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been huge.
I saw them live.

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Oh no, these guns and roses.
Twice.

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And we actually opened up for a
version of their band when they

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weren't touring as Tesla.
They called themselves the Sofa

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Kings.
We were on that hill.

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OK, cool.
Lynyrd Skynyrd.

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Everybody's got to have Lynyrd
Skynyrd.

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Oh yeah, Golden Platinum is the
best one to have if you don't

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have them all.
Yeah, yeah.

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The only song I don't like on
here is is Free Bird.

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Well, we like it.
It's just come on now.

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Fuck.
It's so overplayed man, just I

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get it already 1.
Of the last songs that came on

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on my drive home, yesterday was
Saturday night special and I

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bought blew my speakers out of
my car.

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Wasn't into that one.
Yes, that's a good one. 5150

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time.
Another great riff, 5150 itself.

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So here's a good story.
There's a guy named.

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I've never pronounced his name
right.

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It's like SIPOICW on Instagram.
Sipowicz or something like that.

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Yeah.
He plays that song on his

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Instagram page.
Sammy Hagar comments on it.

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Put your money where your mouth
is.

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Come play with us at the sphere.
That just happened about, I

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don't know, two weeks ago.
And he killed it, dude.

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Cool.
Young kid probably in his 20s

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but how cool is that a Sammy?
Just say put your money where

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your mouth is.
Come game with us.

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Joe Casey, I mean, you like
liked my comment about coming on

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the show.
Let's go, dude.

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This this is this is the actual
mechanical rest calling your

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bluff.
Yeah, this is the the actual

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debut album.
And I think it was Guns and

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Roses that Neanderthal said had
this not come out.

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The same time for destruction.
Appetite came out that that

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would have been a whole
different thing.

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But the greatest?
Not one of the greatest openings

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to an album ever.
Dueling guitar shit going on.

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Fantastic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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What was supposed to the first
song on that modern come easy

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go, Yeah or yeah, easy come,
easy come easy go then, then,

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but check it out.
Easy come easy go.

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Coming at your life, getting
better, Too late for love right

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off the gate.
Those those first four songs are

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phenomenal.
And little Susie's a kicker for

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It's supposed to be kind of like
a ballad, but it's not really a

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ballad.
Right, but then side 2 is modern

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day cowboy changes and little
Susie so you.

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Such a great.
Fucking a dude.

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So you have 7 songs on this
album that that made the charts

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at some level.
Times making changes.

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Right.
Look at you and you.

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You just can't forget that
melody.

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Yeah, there was.
There's one line that I love.

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I I think it's coming at you.
Live.

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I can't.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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It's too late for love.
I can't believe this fucking

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world in which we're living in.
Yeah.

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Still, I do the best that I can
see Look.

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At you in that melody.
You just can't forget those

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great songs.
One of the greatest, one of the

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greatest live performers ever as
far as an entertainment value

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and and just fucking an unsung
rock star.

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No.
Yeah.

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And all around humanitarian.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Bob Seger Now a lot of people

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don't know this, OK?
A lot of people don't are going

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to be like what the fuck is that
man?

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Got to be David Bowie.
Planet P Billy Thorpe.

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Oh.
This was his.

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His.
Children of the Son.

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Yes.
No.

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Was it Billy Thorpe?
No.

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No, I'm sorry.
It wasn't Billy Thorpe.

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It was fuck the the song on here
is why me It's badass that you

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got to look at.
If you haven't heard that song,

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you need to find that song.
It's fucking it's I'll see if I

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can find it on YouTube and just
play the opening riff because

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it's outstanding and the whole
the whole beginning of it is why

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I like it.
It's the opening riff of it.

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Just just the music itself.
Tony Carey.

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I'm sorry, Tony Carey.
Tony Carey's a singer.

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What your did this come out?
Hold on.

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And it had to be in the 80s.
It looked for your 80s.

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I've got a Christian mic so I
can.

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I was convinced it was David
Bowie, but I don't.

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Have one of the one of the one
of the one of the why me?

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He's he references won't be back
this way till 2010 so and he

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passed away not too long ago.
It's from Geffen records.

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I don't have a date.
I don't have a date on it.

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Why me?
Why?

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Me.
Oh shit, why me?

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Planet P.
I'm thinking they have a video.

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Oh, they do have a video.
That's right.

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OK, so let's do that.
This is the opening riff of it.

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Did you hear it?
Yep.

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Wait for the wait for the the
the groove to come.

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I remember.
That that's pretty fucking legit

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in the headphones, man.
Pretty fucking legit in the

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headphones, dude.
So that's planet PY me Tony and

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he also Tony Carey also did it
was a really cool song.

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First day of summer.
You'll you'll probably recognize

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it when I when I put it in.
I like I know it just by the.

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Title and it's and it's a fine,
fine day it's.

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Fine, fine.
Oh.

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Yeah, you know that song for
sure.

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So this is this is Tony Carey.
Come on.

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Oh, damn it, Jim.
Wrong button.

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Oh, I'm missing the intro
business in the beginning.

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Damn it.
It's.

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Yeah.
Of course this is a cheesy ass

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video because it's the 80s.
That's a great.

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Beat though.
Yeah, yeah, he's fucking stupid

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video and he also has what was
the other one?

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Tony Carey well, you know,
that's one thing to blame for

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Billy Squires demise was.
Rock me tonight.

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Rock Me Tonight video for.
Sure.

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Yep.
Yep, Yep.

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And by demise, I mean he's still
cashing all those checks every

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week on his way to the bank.
Yeah, so this is a This is a

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Cool Story song from Tony Carey.
It's a fine, fine day.

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This is Uncle Sunny Sunny
Lombardini, you know, mobster

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type shit.
But so this is the lead singer

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for Planet P.
OK, that song's actually in my

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playlist somewhere, yeah.
I just thought the video was

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cool because he's sitting there.
He's sitting there kind of

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singing, talking to the to the
guy at the desk, you know, kind

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of telling a story.
That is cool.

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Yeah, it's better than the
cheesy 80s.

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Video by.
Right slide right.

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I love this voice.
She had a cool voice, man.

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It's.
Got that little quiet rasp, you

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know.
Yeah.

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So there's that intangible that
you can't teach someone.

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Yeah.
See just just a fine right

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there, right there little.
Yeah.

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That little rasp, man, that
little rasp was cool.

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You have the same intangible
quality.

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Oh, thank you, Mike.
So that's Tony Carey.

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So here's another one I pulled
out of the thing.

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Well. 1st I ever bought with my
own money and.

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And and talk about breaking on
in the scene.

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I did a movie that never never
left the the the tin can.

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What?
The fuck was it called?

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I played this really wicked,
like just sadistic dude that

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there's a scene in it where
there's a dungeon and I'm I'm

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I'm in up in the room and from
the back you can you can see I'm

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I'm pleasuring myself and
dropping it into a tube.

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OK.
And then the tube goes down to

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the dungeon and the women are
there feeding off the tube.

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But the opening song he was
using was too late for love I'm

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walking.
This is how old this movie was,

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OK?
I'm walking through Sky Harbor,

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no permits.
I have, I have a movie set, 9mm

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in my hand, OK, Like in my hand,
walking through, walking through

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one of the terminals, just with
the gun in my hand.

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And he's, he's the cameraman's
going backwards, 'cause I'm

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walking and they're coming up
from the feet, you know, all the

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way up.
And they zoom in on the eyes,

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you know, fucking Sky.
HARBOR, Man.

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That's crazy.
Did anybody say anything?

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No, because it's just it was, it
was, you know, middle of the

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day, man.
I don't remember if anybody was

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fucking in there.
It was just one of those things,

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dude, just fucking crazy.
The deep cut off that pyromania

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album that I liked, that very
few people ever mentioned is

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Billy's got his gun.
I love that song.

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Yeah, there's the longest ending
in the history of the world.

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That's the first White Snake
incarnation.

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Yep.
That's what.

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For your loving John Sykes man,
he's one of the baddest guitar

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players to ever pick up the
guitar.

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So Speaking of guitars, some
people in my office theater,

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people in the office theater
today we're talking about

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there's a documentary for Red
Hot Chili Peppers on Netflix,

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which I didn't know.
Yeah, I got, I haven't watched

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that one yet, all McCartney one
on Amazon Prime.

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I cannot recommend enough, man.
On the run.

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It's an hour and 55 minutes.
That feels like about 25.

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OK.
So that one the the the Peppers,

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it wasn't an argument.
It was it was just a discussion

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there.
Like swear, John Forsyth's the

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best, the best guitar for Shanti
has the best guitar player

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around right now.
And I'm like, really, I'm like

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better than just Prince came to
mind.

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I'm like better than Prince.
Well, Prince is dead.

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So yeah, I don't, I don't, I
don't think I agree with that

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because I just don't think.
He is a bad musician, man, He.

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Is, but I don't think he's the
best.

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He's up there.
Yeah.

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Just not be not for his
technical playing ability, for

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his ability to put such complex
chord structure together.

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Gotcha.
OK.

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That's the that's the hard part
about when you start getting

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into who's the best.
It's like the best at what?

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Yeah.
Is he the There's people when

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you say Malcolm Young is one of
the greatest guitar players

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ever, they'll go.
No, he's not.

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And then there's an argument,
right?

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Because right, technically was
he the greatest?

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No.
He used like 5 chords in his

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whole career.
But yeah, he sold over what, 150

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million records using those five
chords.

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So yeah, right.
Right.

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We have, we have to define
what's the best.

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I know where you're coming from
and from your mindset.

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No, you know, technically, maybe
not.

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Oh Jesus.
Now talk now talk about

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technical ability Rushes 2112
for those of you who are just

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listening.
One of the greatest albums ever

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recorded.
Right.

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I just read a funny story with
Getty Lee, He said now that

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they're going out on this tour
and he hasn't been playing those

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songs in a long time.
So I didn't realize how hard

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those songs were to play when we
were in the middle of all of it.

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Because you're doing it all the
time.

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But yeah, when you've been away
from it for a while and you have

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to relearn it.
Yep.

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To hear that from Getty Lee, it
makes you feel better as a

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player, right?
Because we all have those same

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problems.
Yeah, so when Alter Bridge came

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to Arizona, the first time I saw
them, this was the album that

451
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,960
they were touring, which 21
songs.

452
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Wanted to be able to play there.
And and you didn't realize that

453
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,840
these 'cause I was like, wow,
this has been a long show cause.

454
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280
For those of you who are
listening, he's holding up the

455
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Live at the Royal Albert Hall
album.

456
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,600
You have to be invited to play
there.

457
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,480
You just, you know, that's a
honor.

458
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,840
Yeah.
It's not just another gig, even

459
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,880
for a band that size.
Right.

460
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,640
And it's alter bridges with the
Parallax Parallax Orchestra.

461
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,840
But kid you not, most bands play
13 to 15 songs.

462
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,720
They they play 21 songs.
And legit, I just it blew my

463
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,120
mind like we're still here.
We're still I'm like, they got

464
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,600
to be done.
They got to be done sooner or

465
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,160
later.
They played because nobody knew

466
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,800
this was the end product.
So what we heard in Phoenix,

467
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,040
which I think was a second or
third date, they end up touring

468
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,840
for over a year and a half and
then finishing in in in in

469
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,640
England.
And he fucking nailed everything

470
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,200
Miles did nailed.
There's there's in the where is

471
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,120
it waters rising.
They never play that live.

472
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,400
There's a sequence in there
where miles like, you know, I

473
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,240
can hold, I can hold a note for
pretty long.

474
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,520
Yes you can.
This dude puts everybody to

475
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,240
shame.
Not only does it hold a note, he

476
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360
keeps going higher and higher
with it to where you think he's

477
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,320
just there.
No.

478
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Pushes at once.
It's just, it's and it's this is

479
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,760
unopened by the way kids never
opened.

480
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,800
Just.
Unbelievable.

481
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,080
This is this is The funny thing
about Mike and I.

482
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,680
So when we were pre show, he's
like, dude, I'm going to ask

483
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,440
you, I'm going to name a band,
you're going to tell me what

484
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,160
your favorite song is.
I'm like, did you have no idea

485
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,880
what I had planned for today?
I didn't either.

486
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,640
Another reason I wanted to play
guitar.

487
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,560
Right, right, that that
literally was the first heavy

488
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,800
metal album to ever reach #1 at
the time.

489
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,840
Yep, that's true story 1983,
right?

490
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,560
Yep, Yep, on all charts.
Amazing.

491
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480
I remember walking around town
with a boom box jam and mental

492
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,160
health.
Oh.

493
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Fuck yeah, dude.
That was, that was I was I, I, I

494
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960
did something.
I was doing something for school

495
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,720
or something and I want it.
So I got to pick what record I

496
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,640
wanted or cassette.
I wanted Mental health.

497
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600
Quite right.
My brother was like fucking dumb

498
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,440
ass.
That's a question I've always

499
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,000
had.
If Randy Rhodes had stayed in

500
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,120
Quiet Riot, would they have
attained the success that they

501
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,280
had because he after he, not
because he left, but after he.

502
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,760
Left.
I don't.

503
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040
I don't, I don't.
Think so I I know I think they

504
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,920
still because I think it was
more Kevin Dubrow was this, it

505
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,960
was this.
It was a voice.

506
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,920
I think more than than any
imagery because the mental

507
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,920
health, the mental health video
with the with the metal and

508
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,800
shit.
I just saw it about a week ago

509
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,480
on, yeah, that Metal Mayhem show
on MTV.

510
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Yeah, it was fantastic video for
its time.

511
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,840
Yep, it was.
And that's what you'd had to do

512
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,040
to make it in the world back
then.

513
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,520
MTV, you had to be on MTV.
You had to have a catchy video

514
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,560
that that sparked interest and
was played and requested all the

515
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,360
time.
It's just weird how Kevin Dubrow

516
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,920
needed more simplistic music in
his life and Ozzy needed more

517
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,600
complex and it all worked out
for everybody, you know?

518
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ozzy needed Randy.

519
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,720
He I don't, I don't, I don't
know if Ozzy's solo, initial

520
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,600
solo would have done what I did
without Randy.

521
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,640
No, that would say that Sparky
needed.

522
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,800
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause Ozzy's Ozzy,

523
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600
you know, You all know we love
Ozzy, but I just, I just think

524
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840
that without that element, you
know?

525
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,880
I went and saw that tour.
Yeah, I still wanted the album.

526
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,880
They made a lot of shit man, but
they they do great songs.

527
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,080
They did write great songs for
sure, absolutely.

528
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840
But to Neanderwall's point, you
have people like Mötley Crüe.

529
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Nobody knows why, they're huge,
and Poison's much better than

530
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Mötley Crüe.
So this is a record store find

531
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,640
which you can tell because of
the drawings on it.

532
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Oh yeah.
Born around the drawings.

533
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,320
So if you've never watched
anything about the E Street

534
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Band, there's documentaries, go
watch that because Bruce

535
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Springsteen wouldn't be anything
without Steven Van Zant.

536
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,120
He'd be nothing. 100% absolutely
nothing.

537
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,600
I don't care what you say, go
watch the documentary and you'll

538
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,200
realize.
It very rarely is there not a

539
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,360
songwriting duo.
You know, Yep, there's cheap

540
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:38,880
trick again tonight, heaven
tonight.

541
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,240
Oh yeah, well, and and just just
the E Street band, the whole the

542
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,160
whole I got to fix this, my OCD
the whole the whole background

543
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,440
like like everybody found.
Yes, his image, right?

544
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560
He was the image and the sound
backed up what he was

545
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,360
portraying.
It was.

546
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480
It was an act on all their
parts, but it worked.

547
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,560
Right.
And the other thing too, that

548
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,680
the foundation of that sound in
the image came from Jersey

549
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Shore, the Atlantic City stuff.
So none of none of Bruce

550
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040
Stringstein wouldn't be who he
is without all that.

551
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840
They they, they pulled him up on
stage.

552
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,880
Bruce was just a rhythm guitar
player basically.

553
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,320
He wasn't the forefront of
anything.

554
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,960
You just was there jamming with
him.

555
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,440
But then it goes back to like
The Beatles playing 12 hour

556
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,800
shows and locking yourselves in
a room and doing nothing.

557
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400
I've heard Bruce say in
interviews, I just wanted to be

558
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920
in the band.
I yeah, you could never predict

559
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440
this was going to happen.
Or, you know, a liar, you know.

560
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Right.
Yep.

561
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,680
But so many people just, you
know, they just gravitate to

562
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,800
born in the USA and think that's
that's the thing.

563
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,560
And and that's a protest song,
boys and girls.

564
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,880
In case you didn't know, we open
for these motherfuckers.

565
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,240
Yes, we did.
Can't.

566
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,040
See, don't remember any of these
guys.

567
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,760
I didn't.
I wasn't drunk or stoned at the

568
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,800
time.
I think maybe one of the

569
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,360
original members might have.
Been there.

570
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,760
At the time too, you know, but
still rain on Scarecrow.

571
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,800
Oh, fantastic album.
So that that touched me because

572
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,440
my entire family up to me and my
parents were farmers.

573
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,160
So that was that was pretty, you
know?

574
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,800
So this is this.
Holy shit.

575
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,240
That is right.
That's Michael Schenker.

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Before he left.

577
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,880
Yep.
And that's a that's a crazy

578
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
story because they were so
worried that he was going to

579
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760
freak out over the songwriting
or whatever, and he wanted out

580
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,800
so bad he basically signed a
contract that said it's all

581
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,560
yours, I will never bother you
again.

582
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440
He just didn't want to be
pigeonholed into playing that

583
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,360
same kind of music forever.
So some of the titles of the

584
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,880
songs here, the first one, he's
a woman, she's a man.

585
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,040
They were ready for the future.
They were.

586
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Ready for the Future Man,
Shamrock Fever, Dark Lady,

587
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speedies Coming, Robot Man,
Catch Your Train, and On the

588
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560
back advertisements for three
other albums.

589
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,600
That's how people did it back
then about.

590
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,320
Every nine months an album came
out.

591
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,160
Yep, arguably argue.
Arguably one of the best Billy

592
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,360
Joel albums ever.
The Stranger.

593
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Oh, couldn't agree.
More arguably.

594
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720
One of the.
Best Supertramp albums ever.

595
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,120
Billy Joel's Yeah, I agree.
Billy Joel's funny for me

596
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
because I always think that I
don't like Billy Joel till one

597
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120
of his songs comes on and then I
like, Oh yeah, I love Billy

598
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,240
Joel.
Yeah, same way, same way, dude.

599
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,200
It's the weirdest thing.
This this was.

600
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:38,240
An album that that changed.
My it was when I.

601
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,120
Started drawing pictures of
bands.

602
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Oh, escape.
Yep, and it.

603
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200
Wasn't necessarily don't stop
believe like believe it or not,

604
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200
I'm the guy that likes I like
Stone.

605
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,560
In love I.
Liked Escape, Lay it Down,

606
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Mother Mother father.
I like the heavy riffs, like I

607
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,920
dumped the ballads a little bit,
but I really like the heavier

608
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,080
stuff that Journey did and they
just don't get enough credit for

609
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,800
that.
Which blows my mind man, because

610
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880
any time is my favorite.
Song by Journey.

611
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Yeah, they wrote some.
Really good, heavy stuff, man.

612
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,240
And who is that Greg?
Greg Rossi, Yeah, he's.

613
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160
The singer on that song?
Yeah.

614
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,840
Another journey.
Oh yeah.

615
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,520
And then just, you know, boys
and girls.

616
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
We don't realize that Neil Shawn
started playing guitar with

617
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,560
Santana when he was 17, and I
think he joined Journey when he

618
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,800
was 19.
Yeah, and the one.

619
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,160
That I think.
Yeah, the one that I think

620
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,360
really, really, really put
Journey on the map.

621
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Oh, frontiers for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

622
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Yeah, I remember the video for
I.

623
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Remember the video for track
listing for that?

624
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,080
Other than faithfully.
Fuck, where is it?

625
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,560
It's so there it is.
Up on top separate ways wasn't a

626
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,720
big fan of that one.
Syndrome.

627
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600
I loved Separate ways from what
I've learned about them was all

628
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,840
They were all going through
divorce at the time, like all of

629
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,640
them.
Syndrome I.

630
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Love chain.
Reaction after the fall

631
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480
faithfully, but then you go to
the side to Edge of the Blade.

632
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,560
Fucking great song.
Troubled child, great song.

633
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Frontiers Grape song.
Rubicon, great song.

634
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440
I didn't really like Back Talk
too much.

635
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,360
I love Faithfully.
That was when I really started

636
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,480
like love at first.
Sting, Still Loving You and

637
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,960
Faithfully were the first 2-2
ballad songs that I like.

638
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Oh shit, I like Syndrome.
I love a little bit more than

639
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,440
than Faithfully just because I
like the story behind it.

640
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
You know, I'm on the road.
It's more of a songwriter song.

641
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,840
For sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

642
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Here's one that came on
yesterday, right?

643
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800
Before I got to the casino that
I just again about blew my

644
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
speakers out.
Marvin Gaye's Trouble man.

645
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Oh.
Holy shit does he show his

646
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,960
voice?
Off in that song, yeah.

647
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,760
It's just such a great voice,
dude.

648
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Well, this is just such a cool.
Laid back groove that's played

649
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,080
in halftime and he sings like
almost double time throughout

650
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,160
the whole song when he gets to
the verse.

651
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Just carrying out those notes,
man.

652
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Another, another this.
This took Def Leppard to a whole

654
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,280
new level like you thought
Pyromania took them somewhere

655
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200
they had to sell 4 million.
Copies of that album to break

656
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,160
even, right?
Imagine that you got to go 4.

657
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Times platinum just to get even.
That's how expensive that album

658
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040
was to make, right?
So here's another.

659
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880
This is it.
This isn't an album but it's ACD

660
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,440
set but it's.
Live with the O.

661
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Two yeah again ultra bridge
don't feel too sorry for them if

662
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,880
they're.
Selling out the O2?

663
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,080
No.
And they?

664
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760
And they did, man, they just and
the cool thing this has in the

665
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,000
booklet, it has the lyrics and
everything you know, with, with,

666
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,680
with photos and stuff.
It's nice.

667
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,440
They do really nice shit, man.
Like I got some really nice

668
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,840
ultra bridge merch that you
think like one of them.

669
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,880
I'm named on the back of it.
They only did like, I want to

670
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360
say 500 of them, and my name's
on the back.

671
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,720
Oh, that's awesome.
So here's the one that's.

672
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Opened of course, for some
reason.

673
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,000
For.
Some reason I had two.

674
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,840
I don't know why, but for some
reason I had two.

675
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,520
But yeah, it's, it's, you know,
fucking ultra bridge, man.

676
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,320
I keep.
I keep.

677
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Trying to get miles.
Kennedy on the show, you know.

678
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Another one that that.
That would be awesome.

679
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,639
Another one that I lost that I
wish I had was my original

680
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,000
Zeppelin box set because they
never reissued that and I don't

681
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
think they're ever going to.
The one that came out in the

682
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,320
90s, Yeah.
Yep, we just talked about this

683
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,440
person.
Billy Squire.

684
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Yep.
One of my.

685
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,679
Favorite guitar songwriters?
Ever dude right you want?

686
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,120
To learn how to lay a.
Beat down and put a guitar lick

687
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,600
around it.
Listen to Billy Squire.

688
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Yeah, he'll teach.
You.

689
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,320
Here's a super.
Group Night Ranger, OH.

690
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Yeah, saw them in concert too,
Brad.

691
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,360
Gillis is a monster guitar
player.

692
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Oh, then look, there's another
autographed.

693
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,440
CD of Ultra bridge.
He just so happens to have.

694
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,120
That's it.
That.

695
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,720
We went through that entire.
Crate of albums.

696
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,760
I only brought one crate in
because I didn't.

697
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,840
Know how long it would take to
go through it so there you go

698
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,920
there's an entire crate I did
find this in the same crate

699
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,160
though it's it's dusty remember
Todd McFarlane oh the artist

700
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,240
there's this spawn version of
Jim Morrison that's.

701
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,360
Awesome dude.
And on.

702
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,800
The back they have Jerry.
Garcia, James Hetfield and Angus

703
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,440
Young's Spawn version I.
Didn't know they had such a

704
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,200
thing.
Somebody gave that to me.

705
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,400
I believe I.
Wonder if it's worth any money?

706
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Probably, unless they made about
100 million.

707
00:35:52,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Of them, right?
Wow, we just hit a wall because

708
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,640
there's no more.
Records to talk about Tony

709
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,840
Carey's still playing on my on
my behind the scenes.

710
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,400
They're the same song has been
looping.

711
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680
I bet they're oh, Asia.
Remember Asia Falk?

712
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120
There's another super group.
Asia Super Group for sure man.

713
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,720
Asia, Asia, Asia, yeah, that's.
It my tote's empty.

714
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,640
Man my my tote albums is empty.
I have another one in the garage

715
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,120
if you want to wait a minute.
What was the first record you?

716
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,920
Bought with your own money.
I have, I don't fucking

717
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,440
remember.
Dude, I have no idea.

718
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,680
See, I totally remember it was
pyromania.

719
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,800
For sure.
Yeah, I think.

720
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,560
This Yeah, Jake gave me this.
One year for my I think it was.

721
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,800
My birthday, it was 30.
Seconds To Mars I like. 30

722
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Seconds To Mars.
Yeah, they.

723
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,720
Ride a lot of good stuff too.
Man, there's another band that

724
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,440
just never took off because for
whatever reason they didn't have

725
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,680
a big hit.
Which is weird because.

726
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,240
They have a.
Massive following.

727
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,400
Like a massive following.
Well, in my.

728
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Opinion.
They're the same as Corrosion

729
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,800
and Conformity.
They had a couple minor hits in

730
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,040
the 90s when the Deliverance
album came out, but they can

731
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800
play anywhere in the world
without a problem.

732
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,960
So I think you got the best of
both worlds.

733
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,080
You don't have to be mega famous
and you're making a decent

734
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
living.
Yeah, true.

735
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,160
My phone's.
Being weird have you?

736
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Is your.
Phone being weird lately?

737
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,480
No, but it goes.
It goes.

738
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,760
Through periods, you probably
got towers down around you or

739
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,080
something.
That's what happens here.

740
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,320
It's just bizarre, like
sometimes.

741
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,400
It, it's acts like it's sending
a message and then it doesn't

742
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,520
send a message.
I'm like, why aren't you not

743
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,040
sending the message?
And I look at it, it's like

744
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,160
thinking about it.
Well, there's, it's not that

745
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,240
hard to send that message, man.
It's just a simple little

746
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,840
message.
Like, come on, motherfucker.

747
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Who do you have for phone
service?

748
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Verizon.
I had T-Mobile forever man, but

749
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,200
then it just made financial
sense to switch to Verizon I.

750
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Got AT&T?
And so far they've been the best

751
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,040
that I I would went from
T-Mobile to them.

752
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,840
Yeah, T.
Mobile did not work.

753
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Inside the factory, so I would
have to leave my phone in one

754
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,320
spot and it wouldn't work so
every.

755
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Time I saw somebody that was.
Actually on their phone and it

756
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,000
was working.
I said who do you got for

757
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
service?
And the answer was always AT&T.

758
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:31,280
So see, and I had AT&T forever.
But when I switched because

759
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,200
T-Mobile had a new program out
when I first got into real

760
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560
estate, that's how long I've had
my phone number had AT.

761
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,560
And T for the first couple.
Years and T-mobile's new.

762
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,440
Program was was.
Like 40. 999 a month for.

763
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Everything business line, I'm
like switching and AT&T was such

764
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,280
an asshole about letting my
number go.

765
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,760
It took like 3 days.
All that was back in those days.

766
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680
When yeah, they didn't want to
port the phone number to a new

767
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
carrier.
Yeah, like 2000 I.

768
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Want to say 2003 or 4?
You've had your phone number so.

769
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,080
Long that I remember it, and
think about how many phone

770
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,600
numbers you remember it, right?
I remember my mom and dad's home

771
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,160
phone, and I think I remember
yours and maybe two others.

772
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,240
My home phone was 839. 0064 I'm
not going to say ours.

773
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,600
Because she still has it.
Oh, wait on.

774
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,760
I still remember my locker.
Combination at School 283828.

775
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,640
71142.
Imagine the guy that has.

776
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Come up with.
Combos.

777
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,480
What's your job?
I do the combinations for Master

778
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,320
Lock.
That's my job.

779
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,720
Man, that would be a cool job.
Yeah, done by a computer.

780
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:40,840
Now I'm most certain you think.
Making up the.

781
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Combinations, yeah.
Because the computer is going to

782
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,280
make make sure that there's no
duplicates in the sequence and

783
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,960
oh, that's how we.
Track serial numbers.

784
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Where I work, yeah.
Computer can do it in two

785
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,280
seconds.
Mark Winters.

786
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Might be able to do it in. 2
seconds.

787
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,320
But you're not going to be able
to afford 100 Mark Winters at

788
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,800
your business to do the
counting, no.

789
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Backwards and inverted.
Speaking of which, his album is

790
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,640
out.
Today, ladies and gentlemen, go

791
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,960
buy it.
Stream it.

792
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,440
Yeah, Jensen.
By the Jensen.

793
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:15,840
Jensen Buck messaged me earlier
today.

794
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:22,320
Nice shout out to Jensen.
Yeah, he wanted to come on the.

795
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Show.
Let's come on the show again and

796
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,360
not be sideways.
Yeah, this is like what he said

797
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,480
I was like.
Dude, I got time today.

798
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
He's like, fuck, I'm working.
And then Don.

799
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Warnock.
Our our good friend, he wanted

800
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,040
to come back on the show and so
I was like, why, you know, I

801
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,000
didn't schedule something for a
day.

802
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,520
He's like, I'm working.
So Don's coming on April 14th.

803
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Awesome.
I got to and I got to get, I got

804
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,240
to go and check because I,
there's a couple people I, I

805
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,080
gave opportunities for in April
before I go back to Jensen and

806
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:56,200
say here's your date and time.
Yes.

807
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,120
And just for the record.
For the last time, that was a

808
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,040
glitch in the system which we
made Riverside aware of and.

809
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,960
This is all a process because.
It's new for everybody.

810
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,800
We didn't realize we were such
an early adopter of Riverside,

811
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,800
so no, we did not.
They've come.

812
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,480
A long way and one thing.
You cannot do is rotate it if

813
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000
your guest moves his phone.
And that's what happened.

814
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,520
And Jensen was made aware of it.
And for all the people who were

815
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,960
naysayers, he approved of that
episode being released.

816
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,840
So we didn't do.
Something to be an.

817
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,960
Asshole to somebody, we.
Wouldn't do that I.

818
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,240
Texted him immediately.
Here's the deal dude.

819
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,160
I will not release it if you
don't want me to.

820
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,920
And he said laugh out loud, I
don't care.

821
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Which I thought.
Was what he was going to say,

822
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,720
which is why I approached him
with it in the first place.

823
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,040
You just know people you know
and he.

824
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Seemed like he kind of goes with
the flow like I do.

825
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,280
I would have said the same
thing.

826
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Sorry man, I'm the one that
moved my phone.

827
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,240
And for the whole episode, we
thought that he was in portrait

828
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,720
mode because that's how we were
looking at each other, right?

829
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Exactly and just for the.
Record Riverside.

830
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,280
Did reach out again at a higher
level and say can you explain

831
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,040
what happened so that we can
look into this?

832
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,600
And I did.
I sent him back an e-mail and

833
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,480
said here's what happened.
Cool.

834
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,280
So they're very.
Proactive.

835
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Which is why we like them.
You, you suffer through growing

836
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,000
pains when their customer
service reaches back out, right?

837
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
They've always done that for me.
So when I see negative things,

838
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,360
and I know you do too, I like to
try and say that's not been our

839
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,720
experience.
Yeah, I do, because I don't.

840
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,440
I don't, you know, everybody's
learning by doing.

841
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Here's nothing that's
interesting because we always

842
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,360
have, we always have upload
issues, right?

843
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,240
Right.
Without a guest.

844
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,320
I'm at 99%.
You're 80, you're at 97%.

845
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,440
When I have guests, we have
guests.

846
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,080
I'm always like 30-40.
Fifty percent is the weirdest

847
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,280
thing, man.
Well, that is weird.

848
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Right, I don't know, I.
I because you're right, that is

849
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,760
and that's been.
The case here lately for sure,

850
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,080
yeah.
Yeah, like when we had when we

851
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680
were talking to what was his
name?

852
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,440
The.
Other day I.

853
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,320
Had I had to I?
Died twice it.

854
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Was it was annoying, you know,
so that was another one I

855
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,920
didn't.
Tell you about we waited forever

856
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,880
for his and his never got past
94% and then I finally had to

857
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,080
have him log out and log back in
and then the upload completed.

858
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000
That's so weird, man, but we.
Just got in a conversation we.

859
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Talked for like 15 minutes and I
looked down.

860
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,520
I'm like dude, you're still at
94%.

861
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,400
I bet you log back out and log
back in.

862
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,440
So then I go to edit it or make
not.

863
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,520
Edit it make.
Sure that it processed and his

864
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,960
track wasn't processed.
So once again I had to reach out

865
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960
to customer service and they
fixed it but.

866
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,360
It's not perfect when you're
trying to.

867
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600
Record people who are in all
parts of the country, I guess,

868
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:47,480
right?
Yeah.

869
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Which you?
Know shit happens, yeah?

870
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,440
It's part of the charm of the
show.

871
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,800
It ain't no big thing.
It's live, warts and all.

872
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,640
Live.
It's not memorex.

873
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,120
So if you want to be on the
show, just go.

874
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,680
To Chris and mikeshow.com and
scroll to the top and click

875
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880
register as a guest and Mike
gets that e-mail.

876
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,640
He forwards it to me, then we
get you dialed in.

877
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:18,720
So a guy named.
Phillip which you, you, you, you

878
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,280
messaged me.
You forwarded me Phillip's

879
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,440
message.
Phillip Nekov, you know.

880
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,840
What I'm talking about, yes.
Well, we had Chad Valier.

881
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,200
On he loved the Chad he he loved
the Valier show, so he's going

882
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,960
to he's chiming in to to come on
for.

883
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,680
The 21st at. 5 PMCT What's CT
Central time with Deborah

884
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Masterson for Freedom Quest, a
love story.

885
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,360
I'm going to have to remind him
that the 21st is is is.

886
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:55,480
It's 4:00 PM, not 5:00 PM.
Well, if he's talking central.

887
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,840
Time, it would be 6:00 PM if
it's Tuesday, OK.

888
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,000
It is Tuesday.
If it's a Tuesday.

889
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,160
We start at 6:00 central time,
which is 4 year time.

890
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:15,360
Well, that's why I told him.
We start Tuesdays, 4:00 PM set

891
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,520
up time, which is 6:00 PM to
your time.

892
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,320
Confirm you are good.
Yeah.

893
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:26,840
It's part of the year.
I start at 5:00 and.

894
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Part of the year I start at six,
we're in the part of the year I

895
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,600
start at six, right?
So letting him know that.

896
00:45:45,820 --> 00:45:47,060
There you go, we'll see what he
says.

897
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,760
This says this guy powered his
home.

898
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,920
For eight years with 1000
reclaimed laptop batteries

899
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,360
arranged as packs recharged by
solar panels using an engineered

900
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,040
fully off grid system for a
year.

901
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,960
You're right.
That's what that's.

902
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,680
What's?
Crazy.

903
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,040
That's a lot of batteries, man.
Uh huh.

904
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,360
So.
We're going to get him on the

905
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,880
show.
Nice.

906
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,760
Yeah.
Anything else you want to talk

907
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,120
about?
Because.

908
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,720
I don't want to be that guy that
just sits here.

909
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:20,880
Filling space, you know what I
mean?

910
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,440
You know, because, I mean, our
shows are good.

911
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,640
And I don't, I don't want to be
that guy.

912
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,680
That's just like, OK, let's talk
about something, Mike, just

913
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,720
because we are viewers.
Well, that's what we're doing.

914
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,720
We're just talking.
OK, OK.

915
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,800
Yeah, that's true.
Relax.

916
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,320
We don't have to have something
to talk.

917
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:45,160
About, but this is true.
What can't?

918
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,920
What did you do yesterday?
What did I do yesterday?

919
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,400
What was yesterday, Thursday, so
I had a closing so I had to go

920
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,040
get keys for that.
I worked out.

921
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,320
I went to the I went to Oh, I
said I went to the urologist,

922
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,320
you know, because I do that a
couple times a year because you

923
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:10,640
have to and I wore my B kind
shirt.

924
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,280
So when?
I get in there.

925
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,680
I always ask when I go to the
doctor.

926
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,000
I was when I because I walked
in, it was crowded, like the

927
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000
whole thing was crowded.
So I.

928
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,720
I I, you know, walk in and I go
to the front desk.

929
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,880
Really cool 80 receptionist.
Not receptionist but.

930
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,120
You know the.
Lady behind the counter takes

931
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,200
your insurance card?
Sign in.

932
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,480
I don't.
I don't know if she's Jamaican

933
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,400
or what, but she's really just
fucking.

934
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,320
I still call him a receptionist.
Too.

935
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,360
OK, yeah, she's a super cool.
Human right?

936
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,240
We've always had this little
banter going back and forth.

937
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,880
So I sign in and I go sit down
in the one chair available and

938
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,400
she comes back.
And.

939
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Says oh, Nikki comes back and
and calls me up and I was.

940
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,480
Like, hey, how late is he
running?

941
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Because when I see a full
office, a full waiting room, I'm

942
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
like, how late is he?
Because I'm not going to sit

943
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,240
around for an hour.
I'm like, sorry, time is

944
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,080
valuable so.
She's like half an.

945
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Hour and she's like oh I love
your shirt because I said be

946
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,720
kind my thanks and I said I'm
not going to be very kind if I'm

947
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,400
just sitting here for an hour so
I.

948
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,560
Hear the I hate rumblings of.
Laughter behind me right so I

949
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,640
turn around and it's literally
probably a 15 by 15 waiting

950
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,200
room.
So I turn around and and a

951
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,400
couple people make comments
about my shirt right then and

952
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,760
somebody comes and gets gets a
patient and they're oh, I love

953
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,160
your shirt.
I sit.

954
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,160
Down another one opens.
The door for somebody else

955
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,520
coming out and oh, I love your
shirt.

956
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,880
So.
I'm there 10 minutes before my

957
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,760
appointment, so about 132, my
appointments at 1:30.

958
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,720
I get called back at 1:32 and
and then she's like, oh, look at

959
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,160
that.
Chris is on his way back.

960
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,560
So I go back the door and blood
pressure and stuff, you know,

961
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,880
like you do.
And then and then the two other

962
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,440
people see the shirt, lobby
shirt, lobby shirt.

963
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,560
I get into the room, doctor
comes in, you know, we have our

964
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,960
2-3 minute conversation because
it's just a follow up and he's

965
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,160
by the way, I love your shirt.
This the most comments I've

966
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,880
gotten on that shirt of all the
times I wore.

967
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,440
You know what that tells me?
That at the core, people really

968
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,160
do just want to be nice.
Yeah, yeah.

969
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,360
And as long as you don't watch
the.

970
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200
News.
You realize that there's way

971
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,680
more nice people out there than
there are Dick heads?

972
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Agreed The Dick.
Heads and assholes are the.

973
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Minority, but they're so loud
that they stand out right.

974
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,840
I spent the whole.
Day at the casino.

975
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,760
Yesterday with my buddy Joe and
we encountered way more nice

976
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,960
people people than we did not,
you know, yeah, I had one grumpy

977
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
asshole that almost ran into me
coming out of the bathroom and I

978
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,360
said excuse me, even though it
was clearly, clearly his fucking

979
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,400
fault.
And he just.

980
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Grumbled at me.
Whatever.

981
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Yeah, because he probably lost,
you know, more money than he

982
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,320
needed to and he was in a bad
mood and whatever.

983
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,120
I just 20 years.
Ago I'd have.

984
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Stood there and been like, you
know, you were the fucking

985
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,240
asshole that ran into me, right?
And I'm apologize.

986
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,960
I would have explained why he
was in the wrong, but it's like

987
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,880
he's never going to understand.
No, I've.

988
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,800
Come to the point just.
Now I understand who's standing

989
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,960
in front of me.
I know you're not capable of

990
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,400
understanding my explanation.
You were wrong.

991
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Yeah, but I'm apologizing.
To you.

992
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,440
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not.

993
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,520
I'm not I.
Don't.

994
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,400
But that was one person out of.
Hundreds.

995
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,520
That's my point, right?
When somebody when somebody

996
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,040
apologizes.
I my reaction is no need to

997
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,920
apologize.
Whatever the situation is, it is

998
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,800
what it is.
You know, it's it's all good.

999
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,080
You know, shit happens.
So here's the flip side of that

1000
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,680
I'm.
In the bathroom and they have

1001
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,600
this fancy new because this is a
brand new casino it just opened

1002
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,800
not even no, I don't think so
I'm in the.

1003
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Bathroom and the.
Fucking hand dryer is not

1004
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,880
working and I'm always trying to
use the hand dryer as the soap

1005
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,400
anyway so I was proud of myself
for finally figuring out how to

1006
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,200
do it the right way.
You know my.

1007
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,440
Hand dryer doesn't work.
So I start laughing.

1008
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,320
I'm like a fucking corset
doesn't work.

1009
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,880
So I go to use the one next to
me and there's a guy that was

1010
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,600
going to use that sink and I was
like, oh man, I'm so sorry,

1011
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,920
dude.
I said I finally figured the

1012
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,560
shit out and mine doesn't work
right.

1013
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,600
He just starts laughing.
He's like, it's all good, man.

1014
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,920
It's all good.
Yeah, that's more.

1015
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,640
What I.
Encountered than the guy who was

1016
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,560
grumbling at me.
That's my point, Yeah, We had a

1017
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,720
good laugh.
About it, it's like.

1018
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,480
Hey, I finally figured out the
soaps over here and the fucking

1019
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,120
dryers over here and mine
doesn't work.

1020
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,800
Then I try and interrupt you,
you know?

1021
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,440
Yeah.
And see, I don't necessarily.

1022
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Like the hand the the air
dryers, they don't work.

1023
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,280
No, I walked out and my.
Hands were wet.

1024
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,760
Every fucking time.
So when you go to like a like.

1025
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,520
A like a convenience store gas
station type, right?

1026
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,840
You know they always have hot
dogs and food for sale, yes,

1027
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,560
right, So I won't.
Use the hand.

1028
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Dryers.
I'll I'll walk out of the I'll

1029
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,440
shake my hands.
I'll walk out of the bathroom,

1030
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,280
beeline for wherever the napkins
are, grab 5-6 napkins, dry my

1031
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,040
hand and throw it away.
That's genius.

1032
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,800
Yeah.
I'm just 'cause I don't like.

1033
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,080
The hair dryers at all?
I don't.

1034
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,720
I don't either.
They just don't work.

1035
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,160
No at all.
So if I walked.

1036
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,840
Out of there, without wet hands,
I'd use.

1037
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,280
Them every time.
I don't like it either, so I've

1038
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,960
I've always learned.
Just.

1039
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Just to use the.
The the paper towels or napkins

1040
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:22,400
or whatever they have.
I'm going to start doing that.

1041
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,720
I don't.
Know why I never thought of that

1042
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:24,880
myself?
Yeah.

1043
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,240
Man, it's all good.
It's crazy.

1044
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,920
Remember when they had that?
Old fucking shit where you

1045
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,560
pulled the look like an old
man's undershirt.

1046
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,160
Yes, that's fucking terrible.
Oh, the diseases that were on

1047
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,240
that thing.
Can you imagine?

1048
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
No dude, I hate.
Those things even.

1049
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,440
As a kid.
And then and then and.

1050
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,680
It's supposed to be sanitary
because it rolls through the

1051
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,200
cup.
Fuck you.

1052
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,120
It doesn't clean.
It's all nasty and brown and

1053
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,960
shit, man.
It's Some of those things were

1054
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,080
just.
Disgusting.

1055
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,320
Yeah, it's fucking terrible,
dude.

1056
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,920
I don't oh that.
And they say that with the with

1057
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,320
the hand dryers that you put
your hands.

1058
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,880
They say they're just as
unsanitary.

1059
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,400
I just heard that on Rogan.
He said he called it shit dust.

1060
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,360
He's like all he does is blow
the shit.

1061
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,240
Dust.
Around.

1062
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,360
So and so here's the here's the
thing.

1063
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,840
That I've done and I've done
this pray way before COVID.

1064
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000
So whenever I'm in like when it
can I go dance and Saturday

1065
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,960
nights, the denim and diamonds.
It's it's you know, it's the old

1066
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,120
school bathroom where every
urinal is lined up so you can

1067
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560
look over and wow, God bless
you.

1068
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,520
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, dude, you're going to have a

1069
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,000
hard time getting anybody with
that.

1070
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,360
You know what I mean?
One of those things, right?

1071
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,600
And then you have the row and
then you have all the sinks tied

1072
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,720
together, right?
There's like 10 sinks and you

1073
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:34,840
have like probably 30 urinals
and then you have single stall

1074
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,400
Thrones, right?
Yep.

1075
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,680
And then it's a typical.
West Country Western bar where

1076
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,440
you have the the the shelf above
the urinal so you can put your

1077
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,440
beer you know well.
When you're washing.

1078
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,960
Your hands, kids.
If you turn the.

1079
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,040
Faucet on, you get your hands
wet, then you get the soap and

1080
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,880
you wash your hands like I know
the faucet.

1081
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,560
Oh, clean, clean, clean.
But then if you have to grab the

1082
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,280
paper towel dispenser, go whack
A whack A whack A whack A whack

1083
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,600
A to get paper towels out.
You just uncleansed your hand.

1084
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,640
So for the OCD people in the
world, you whack a whack of the

1085
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,000
the paper towel first.
Then you take that paper towel,

1086
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,480
whack A whack again, open up the
faucet, put the paper towel

1087
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,960
behind the faucet.
I know.

1088
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,400
Wash, get the soap, wash your
hands, use that paper towel,

1089
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,880
shut the faucet.
Then you already have a paper

1090
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,440
towel.
They're ready.

1091
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,360
So you pull the new paper towel
off and you whack A whack, A

1092
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440
whack, A whack, A whack, A whack
again to get the right amount of

1093
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,880
paper towels to dry your hands.
Then your hands are clean.

1094
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,120
I'm laughing with you and here's
why I know.

1095
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,480
I've had MERSA 4 times and I'd
learned to do shit like that

1096
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,320
because people are disgusting.
Yeah, so when I used to be on.

1097
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,560
The When I used to do the
homeless stuff, you know, feed

1098
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,120
homeless four or five times a
month, there was 1.

1099
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Of the things that you had to
take.

1100
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,480
The food handlers class, you had
to be mindful like doing that,

1101
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,720
just scratch and tip my nose.
No boys and girls wasn't picked

1102
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:01,840
right there.
I would have just see I'd have

1103
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,600
to go wash my hands again.
So I learned that from from

1104
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,120
doing that, that it's just you
got to you just don't.

1105
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,720
You don't.
And that's a good habit to get

1106
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,200
out of.
When you're in public too, is

1107
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,920
you just said it touching your
face because that's where I got

1108
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,120
it the first time was like right
here on my jaw.

1109
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Yeah.
Blew up like a.

1110
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Golf ball.
You know what?

1111
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,120
I saw this thing, the other.
Day, I think it was Instagram

1112
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,520
about Japan so we know this from
Jake when Jake.

1113
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Was in Japan two years.
Says the cleanest city he's ever

1114
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,680
been in.
I remember him saying that on

1115
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,200
the 1st.
Time he was on the podcast, so

1116
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,680
check this out.
You are not allowed to eat while

1117
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,200
standing up in Japan.
If you're on a train.

1118
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,720
On a train, you're not allowed.
You're not allowed to speak.

1119
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:46,040
You have to respect the silence.
You're not allowed to talk on

1120
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,440
your phone in public because
you're not supposed to let

1121
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,800
everybody else hear your
conversation.

1122
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,360
Case in point, yesterday when I
was a grocery store, some

1123
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,920
dumbass is walking through one
of the aisles.

1124
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,120
He's got a phone like this on
speaker.

1125
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,200
It's not my job to be your PR
representative.

1126
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,960
Meanwhile, he's wearing clothes
that he probably just rolled out

1127
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,640
of bed and that he's been
wearing for a week.

1128
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,440
Completely dishevelled hair, and
he's probably some IT guy

1129
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,200
talking.
It's not my job to be your PR

1130
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,440
representative.
It's not my problem that you Bob

1131
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,360
Bob the whole fucking store and
then here this guy first on the

1132
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,000
other.
End going aren't yeah, it's like

1133
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,240
dude, it's like.
Nobody wants to hear your

1134
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:23,760
conversation.
So in Japan, legit you cannot

1135
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,120
have a a conversation in public
on your phone.

1136
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,640
I like that you have you have
to.

1137
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,520
Respect the silence.
On the train, you can't eat

1138
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,760
while standing.
You have to sit down and eat.

1139
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,280
No shoes allowed in in
businesses or homes, which I've

1140
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,160
always known that most people do
know that about about that stop

1141
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,480
right there.
That's where.

1142
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,920
Most of the germs come in your
home.

1143
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,960
I have the same rule here.
Yeah.

1144
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,320
On the bottom of your shoes.
You're out in public.

1145
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,760
Public right?
There's no, there's no, there's

1146
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,400
no litter allowed and there's no
garbage allowed.

1147
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,240
So there's no receptacles in
public.

1148
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,720
You cannot jaywalk like you're
not allowed to jaywalk at all

1149
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,800
anywhere.
That's a matter if it's a fence,

1150
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,320
right?
Right.

1151
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960
No matter if it's a surface.
Street, neighborhood street or

1152
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,520
you know, a a busy St. you are
not allowed to jaywalk.

1153
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,200
But the crazy thing to me is
those.

1154
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,880
People have that so ingrained in
their culture, they wouldn't

1155
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
think of doing it anyway, you
know, like we would think of

1156
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,720
doing it.
Fuck you.

1157
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,760
Don't tell me what to do.
I'm going to cross right here.

1158
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,560
That wouldn't even enter their
mind.

1159
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,680
That's fascinating to me, Yeah.
That proves that your DNA.

1160
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,360
Carries so much of your, You
know, that's why we still have

1161
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,480
these crazy puritan values in
our DNA.

1162
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,040
It's irrational, but they're
there.

1163
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Yeah.
We're not really those people.

1164
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,000
We haven't.
Been those people for a long

1165
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,560
time.
They haven't been those people

1166
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,200
for a long time, but that
everything you just.

1167
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,520
Said has.
Been carried over for probably

1168
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,760
1000 years.
Yeah, it's called respect RE.

1169
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,600
SPECT.
Find out what it means to me.

1170
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,000
But think about.
Every rule you just.

1171
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,560
Said it's thinking about the
other person and I don't know

1172
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,600
how much.
It's a rule.

1173
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,560
But it's just, it's just what
they're it's I guess it is a

1174
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,000
rule, I guess their culture,
yeah.

1175
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,280
And it's their culture for sure,
I've seen.

1176
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,720
Videos of those Japanese.
Women out there like sweeping

1177
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,400
their storefront sidewalk, you
know, there's nothing there.

1178
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,120
I'm like, what are you sweeping?
Right there was.

1179
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,560
One little piece of trash,
right?

1180
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:22,680
There, you know.
Flakes.

1181
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Flakes.
Yeah, We just don't have the

1182
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,360
same respect.
For our society.

1183
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,440
We don't.
I noticed that.

1184
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Driving down the road yesterday.
Which is in disrepair.

1185
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,920
Well, and you notice the drive.
Down the road when?

1186
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,600
People flick stuff out of their
their vehicles, their windows

1187
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,840
and, you know, you know,
litterbugs and shit.

1188
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Like, that's like, come on, man.
Like, really?

1189
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Yeah.
Still to this day you have.

1190
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,880
People who don't realize they
live in the middle of the desert

1191
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,440
and they're flicking their
cigarettes out the window.

1192
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Oh yeah, the other two days.
Ago driving some one of those

1193
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,360
stupid little Chevy PT Cruisers.
I think they were.

1194
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,800
You know, the guy's got his
window down and legit.

1195
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,520
You're in the desert, cigarette
butt.

1196
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,880
Things burn.
Granted, it was on the.

1197
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,720
Freeway, but it's still.
It's like dude.

1198
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Is it?
Is it?

1199
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Are you really?
Are you really so like?

1200
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,480
I mean, number one, you're
smoking in your car.

1201
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,360
You.
Know I was guilty.

1202
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,960
For a long time myself, yeah.
And then?

1203
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,600
And then you flip the.
Cigarette out of your car.

1204
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,800
And you know, I never learned.
I never.

1205
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,120
Understood what?
The chains were like, you know,

1206
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
you're not allowed to have not
no dragon chains.

1207
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,680
They don't.
They don't wish you having

1208
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,880
chains.
That's because it.

1209
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,840
Sparks.
It sparks.

1210
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,760
It sparks, Oh yeah, Arizona.
And then they can leave the

1211
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,640
fires.
I never do that.

1212
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,760
I saw, I saw something.
I was like, what the fuck does

1213
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,160
that mean?
And then I learned, oh, that's

1214
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,200
what that means.
I used to see that back in the

1215
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120
90s.
With a lot must have been the

1216
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,720
car haulers, not the semi car
haulers, but the guys who would

1217
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,720
buy the big, huge pickup trucks
and they would put a fifth wheel

1218
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,560
on it, you know?
Yeah, they would have those

1219
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,000
chains dragging on the freeway
and you'd see the sparks coming

1220
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,280
out behind them.
Yeah.

1221
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Like that can't be safe.
No, it can't be.

1222
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,000
I don't.
I don't, yeah.

1223
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,080
I don't know how that would be
safe.

1224
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,960
We live in the middle of an
inferno.

1225
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,760
And you're making more fire,
Yeah.

1226
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Which is crazy, right?
What'd you do yesterday?

1227
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,320
I went to the casino.
Did you not work?

1228
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,240
I worked for four hours.
Oh, got you, we.

1229
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,960
We have a time.
Limit on our personal time and

1230
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,760
that time limit is up next week,
so she got to take it.

1231
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,480
You either take it or you get
paid.

1232
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,280
Out for it.
And if they're going to pay me

1233
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,320
to not be there, guess who's not
going to be there?

1234
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,440
That's right, yeah.
So my buddy Joe and I went to

1235
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,080
the.
Casino.

1236
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,200
And the first thing that I said
when I walked through the door

1237
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,720
was I know we're in the same
boat, buddy, but I'm always

1238
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,160
fascinated when you walk through
the door at 11:00 in the

1239
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,600
morning.
All the people who have nothing

1240
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,040
better to do than sit here and
play games at the casino, right?

1241
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,360
Right.
Now they could all be like me.

1242
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,560
You.
Know a lot of more senior

1243
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,200
citizens I get it you know
you're retired you served your

1244
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,480
time, but the people that are
our age, I guess, you know they

1245
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,520
work different shifts or
whatever there's always an

1246
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,160
explanation but it's just
fascinating that many people

1247
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,240
have nothing better to do at
lunchtime on a Thursday then go

1248
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,800
gamble well and and then.
And see, I'm a big believer and

1249
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,480
I don't like the most I've ever
gambled at all was this year in

1250
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,240
in football I played.
I played the.

1251
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,320
Super Bowl squares for Rotary
Mesa Rotary Club that I'm in and

1252
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,320
I won one of the quarters.
So the $200 I invested in to the

1253
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,000
to the whatever app we use to
gamble.

1254
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,120
I made it all back.
So I'm actually up $6 for the

1255
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,040
year.
Nice.

1256
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,840
So.
Here's what I do.

1257
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,680
Yeah, I had a problem because,
you know, I have an addictive

1258
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,080
personality.
And it took until that I just

1259
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,440
told Joe that story yesterday.
That was the addiction that I

1260
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,200
finally went you dumb
motherfucker.

1261
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,280
Things that you really like that
are bad for you for some reason

1262
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,840
you're you gravitate towards.
So stop and my story.

1263
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600
To him was.
I walked up to the craps table.

1264
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,000
It was probably 11:00 in the
morning on a Thursday because I

1265
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,280
used to work Friday, Saturday,
Sunday, 12 hours a day.

1266
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,640
That was my shift, right?
So.

1267
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,760
The rest of the week I had.
Off and I would go to the casino

1268
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:10,840
and play craps one day I got
there and in an.

1269
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,640
Hour and a half I won $6000.
Nice.

1270
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,440
Now.
I didn't really.

1271
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,760
Know what I was doing?
The guy at the end of the table

1272
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,720
probably won close to $100,000.
Oh fuck the guy.

1273
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,320
Next to him, probably.
Won 25 to $30,000 because I

1274
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,480
rolled for almost an hour.
Wow.

1275
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,000
And I didn't know.
What I was doing betting wise,

1276
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,040
so I just kept trying to follow
what they were doing, but with

1277
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,400
not nearly as much money, right?
At the end of that session.

1278
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,960
The guy at the end of the table
gave me $500 tip and his buddy

1279
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,520
gave me a $250 tip.
That's how I know they want a

1280
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,280
fuck ton of money.
Right on three.

1281
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Months later, that money was.
Gone.

1282
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,320
Oh yeah, Because that's how the
casino works, right?

1283
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,480
Right.
That was my tip.

1284
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,320
To.
Say here's what I'm going to do.

1285
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,240
The very next April, when I got
my tax return, I stuck that in

1286
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,160
an envelope.
And if I lose that, I can't

1287
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,080
gamble anymore, right?
You got to set.

1288
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,480
You got to set limits for
yourself.

1289
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:09,920
Yeah.
So when?

1290
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,360
People find out I gamble.
Automatically they think that's

1291
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,120
a negative thing First off
sports betting actually makes me

1292
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:21,200
money that's OK Profit Center
for me so sometimes I take that

1293
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,040
profit from sports betting and I
put it in that envelope if I

1294
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,800
need right.
That's my other source of income

1295
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,880
for gambling yeah.
Because otherwise you have to

1296
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,880
have your mindset.
I know where you were going.

1297
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,880
Most people are like, I don't
want to lose my money.

1298
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280
It just seems irrational.
Well, I yeah, I.

1299
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,320
Just work too hard.
For it and because of what I do

1300
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,320
for a living, there's there's no
guarantee I I don't get paid

1301
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,800
every every week or every two
weeks like normal human beings

1302
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,000
do.
I can go six months not going to

1303
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,240
paycheck because I'm completely
100 pin dependent on the market.

1304
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,480
Doesn't matter how hard I work,
doesn't matter how much

1305
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,280
marketing I do, how much
advertising do, how much

1306
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,240
grinding I do.
It does, for lack of a better

1307
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,840
term, you're Chris Dunham
Enterprises.

1308
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,400
Right.
Not getting a paycheck from

1309
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,200
anybody else, No.
And.

1310
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,320
It's legit.
It's all dependent on the

1311
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,840
market, like it's and I have to
get, I have to fucking overcome

1312
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,560
people's rationalizations of,
you know, this market, this,

1313
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,440
this market's that.
I'm like, well, it's really not

1314
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,240
like it's just not like you
can't have a real estate market

1315
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,280
without buyers buying and
sellers selling and you need a

1316
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,120
buyer just to buy the house that
sellers selling.

1317
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,560
I was like so well, here's the
same.

1318
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,920
You know, in Illinois, I just
heard it on the news.

1319
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:31,440
They were crying yesterday about
there's a shortage in inventory

1320
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,400
in homes.
But if you listen to what they

1321
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,160
have been saying up until that
new story, you would think that

1322
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,480
nobody could sell their home
right now, right?

1323
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,600
You can't have it both ways.
We've had this conversation

1324
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,240
before, but I literally just
heard it.

1325
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,400
And I thought of you right away
when they said that They're

1326
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,000
like, yeah, people are just
desperate to buy a home.

1327
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,960
Well, it's a reelection year for
the governor right now.

1328
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,720
We're talking about, oh, I'm
going to solve that housing

1329
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,400
crisis that didn't exist six
months ago.

1330
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,200
People are stupid.
Man, they're easily.

1331
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,920
LED, hold on.
Let me rewind that.

1332
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,360
I got to stop saying that people
don't have time to be informed.

1333
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,480
It's not that they're stupid.
They literally don't have time

1334
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,600
in their day to sit there and
figure out that everything they

1335
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,800
hear is doublespeak.
They might have only heard what

1336
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,400
I heard yesterday.
Yeah, I'm like, Jesus Christ,

1337
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,120
for six months you've been
telling me that if I wanted to

1338
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,400
sell my house, there's no way on
hell you're ever going to sell

1339
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,640
your house.
Right, that's.

1340
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,760
Yeah, that's the thing that
people don't understand because

1341
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,960
we get that all the time.
Like all the housing market,

1342
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,440
we're flooded with inventory.
I did a search yesterday that a

1343
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,920
referral called me thinking
about selling this house that

1344
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,200
has a tenant in it and the
tenants locked in until

1345
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,320
September.
So I was like, OK, right away.

1346
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,320
We can't offer FHA or VA buyers
because they have time

1347
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,720
constraints to be in the house.
FHA you buy a house, you got to

1348
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,880
be in there with 30 days, VA
within 90 days.

1349
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,480
This is so we're.
Limited to investors.

1350
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,240
Only I said, so if it's required
24 hour notice to show, then you

1351
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,800
got to have 24 hours notice to
show, which means if I want to

1352
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,760
show the house today, I can't.
I got a schedule for tomorrow.

1353
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,200
My buyer might not be available
tomorrow.

1354
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,440
So there's there's three things
that you're up against the wall

1355
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,080
right away and understand.
This is how I approach.

1356
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,000
Everything because I don't want
to put a sign in the yard, just

1357
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,160
say, yeah, I got a sign in the
yard.

1358
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,360
So we left the conversation base
that we're going to revisit this

1359
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,400
in August when we're 30 days out
from lease expiring, hit the

1360
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,200
ground running, start marketing,
start doing our thing.

1361
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,480
But when talking to him, we were
we.

1362
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,160
Were kind of talking about the
inventory.

1363
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,720
I said, OK, look I'm going to go
on to our MLS system and right

1364
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,240
away I typed in, you know just
active 26,000 active properties

1365
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,640
in in all of Maricopa.
Now County, which is our two

1366
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,000
biggest counties, but also now
pulls from some northern cities

1367
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,120
like Sedona, Flagstaff,
Prescott, Pinetop, Show low all

1368
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,080
those kind of things.
It also pulls stuff from from

1369
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,880
Mexico.
Now Rocky Point, it pulls stuff

1370
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,000
in the southern the southern
border towns like across the

1371
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,880
border.
So you're picking up all the

1372
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,120
stuff.
If you just go in and type in

1373
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,000
Maricopa and Pinell County, that
drops to just under 19 thousand

1374
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,200
18,994 as of yesterday, which
was March 26th.

1375
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:06,120
OK, his house is in Gilbert.
It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 15197

1376
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,840
square feet, two car garage.
So I took it 3 bed 2 bath active

1377
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,800
1600 square feet with two car
garage we so we go from 26,000

1378
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,800
to just under 19,000 to 312 in
Olive Gilbert.

1379
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,120
See, that's what I was thinking
about was when.

1380
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,840
You said that you know you have
to define what are you looking

1381
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,680
for, right?
There might be 400,000 homes for

1382
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,880
sale, but there's only 300 that
you can choose from, right?

1383
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,920
Right at 4:00. 100,000 homes for
sale.

1384
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,360
We'd be fucked because I know,
but that's.

1385
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,840
A That was a huge.
You know, I know, you know, I

1386
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,200
know.
That was a huge it.

1387
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:45,640
It when I started this in
992000991999/2000 there was

1388
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,520
between 33 and 35,000 Properties
for Sale.

1389
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,600
That's that's condos,
townhouses, Patty homes, single

1390
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,360
family homes and manufactured
mobile homes on land.

1391
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,200
OK, that was.
My average. 33,000 to 35,000 and

1392
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,040
back then it really was just
Maricopa and Pinell County

1393
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,960
because the MLS wasn't big as it
is now.

1394
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,680
It's grown over the years.
Yeah, my super be a.

1395
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,720
Mass exodus, right?
So yeah.

1396
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,560
A total mass exodus like when
our market crashed, there was

1397
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:22,399
about 50 to 70,000 in the given
time right when our market was

1398
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,359
was smoking hot before the crash
IN2000678, whichever you whoever

1399
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,680
you talked to, there was like
2500 houses.

1400
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,279
That's where people were lining
up to see a house and lines out

1401
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,760
through all of which was media
induced all of it.

1402
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,800
Covad Covic created this, this
chaos with the housing market in

1403
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,000
Arizona.
It was all COVID related.

1404
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,240
It was all media related.
So now look in our market now

1405
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,279
it's all media.
It's all media generated.

1406
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:50,439
Oh, the housing market's slow.
Oh, the the housing inventory is

1407
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,399
guess what, kids when?
COVID hit.

1408
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,439
Builders stopped building when
when, I'm sorry, not when COVID

1409
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,160
hit, when we when the market
crashed the first time in 2006,

1410
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,960
Seven, eight, depending on where
your market was and who you

1411
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,160
talked to, builders stopped
building.

1412
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,120
There's about a six month gap
where builders stopped building

1413
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,960
because of that gap.
We're still about a million plus

1414
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,120
shortfall when it comes to
housing for Americans and a lot

1415
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,560
of that COVID.
Gap.

1416
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,200
I know you're talking about the
the crash, but right, there was

1417
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,600
a gap during COVID too, but that
was all artificial due to not

1418
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,920
being able to get supplies, not
because people didn't want to

1419
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,080
build stuff, right?
They were waiting.

1420
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,399
We waited, you know, I work for
a manufacturer too.

1421
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,120
We waited for product that we
needed to make our product.

1422
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,600
Yeah, supply chain.
You know when they kept saying

1423
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,240
there were supply chain issues,
Yeah, you had a bump in the

1424
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,520
market, but look how the market
recovered since then.

1425
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,600
Yeah, it's.
Going to always recover or?

1426
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,680
It's going to fail.
It's the shit's an illusion.

1427
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,600
Yeah, because how much really
was it was?

1428
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,880
Supply chain.
Like really?

1429
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,000
Did you really run out of toilet
paper or did you just want to

1430
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,120
say, hey, let's fuck no, you
just said it.

1431
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,800
So manufacturing had the same
lag that you talked about in the

1432
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,400
housing market, right?
There was, it wasn't that there

1433
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,440
was a supply chain issue, it was
that it got disrupted.

1434
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,680
So it took a long.
It's like trying to stop a

1435
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,920
freight train, right?
Yeah.

1436
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,880
The guy wants to stop before he
kills you because you're on the

1437
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,840
tracks.
There's no way he can do it

1438
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,280
right.
It takes a.

1439
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,600
Mile to stop.
That freight train, So once

1440
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,040
again, it was an illusion.
You had to catch up.

1441
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,160
Everybody had to catch up
because people stopped not

1442
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,360
knowing what to do, so they
stopped making steel.

1443
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,880
We don't know if we need it now.
You got to wait for those

1444
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,640
factories to start back up.
We got to wait for him to make

1445
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,360
the steel to make the product we
make.

1446
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,720
It's all an illusion, the.
Stock market's an illusion.

1447
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,200
The housing market's an
illusion.

1448
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,000
You just said it.
A lot of this bullshit is

1449
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,360
created by the media because
what do people watch?

1450
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,320
The news?
I mean, constantly.

1451
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,560
And if they don't watch?
The news they read the.

1452
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,200
Headlines.
And because they just read a

1453
01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:00,920
headline, which is the story.
If you don't read the story, I

1454
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,760
guarantee you 95% of the time
the headline has nothing to do

1455
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,320
with the outcome of the story
they're writing about.

1456
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,880
No, it just wants to keep you.
Engaged into that Channel so

1457
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,080
that you watch the commercial so
they can sell more of them.

1458
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,760
It just wants a response.
To the headline, I think it has

1459
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,360
nothing to do with staying on
the channel, it has nothing to

1460
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,400
do with reading the story.
They just want your knee jerk

1461
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,920
reaction to the response.
Because the more the more likes

1462
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,000
that's necessarily likes, the
more reactions and the more

1463
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,000
comments on the thread then the
more popular that news channel

1464
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,440
is.
I do it all the time.

1465
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,040
When something comes up I'm like
I read the article I'm I'll try

1466
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,360
and I'm like do better.
It's the the the article has

1467
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,840
nothing to do with the title.
We are literally the living.

1468
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,920
Definition.
We used to say it and it was

1469
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,960
true, but now it's more true
than ever.

1470
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,560
There is no bad publicity.
No, because you're being paid

1471
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:55,040
like you said, for the eyes and
time on your content.

1472
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,680
Yep, which is.
A bad way to.

1473
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,040
Run a system because it, it
promotes lies, manipulations,

1474
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,680
AI.
You know, all these things that

1475
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,440
people can use for nefarious
reasons are going to be

1476
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,000
exploited.
And obviously, just like the

1477
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,840
asshole in the room is always
the loudest, the fakest shit is

1478
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,160
always the stuff for whatever
reason, that the average person

1479
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,920
grabs on to.
I don't understand it, but

1480
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,520
right.
I've come to the conclusion they

1481
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,440
just don't have the time to
educate themselves.

1482
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:28,440
They're raising a family,
they're working at a job,

1483
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,720
whatever, you know, you don't
have time to dig into.

1484
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920
Did the president really say
that?

1485
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,640
Did that congressman really do
that?

1486
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,120
Did you know, do you really have
the time to look into all that

1487
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,360
bullshit?
Yep.

1488
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,320
I know I don't think they do I.
Think it.

1489
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,440
I think people are just, they
become complacent because it's

1490
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:50,880
headline news.
The journalists don't, actually.

1491
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,760
Promote and and share true
stories anymore it's all

1492
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,720
entertainment.
When I was in journalism school

1493
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,480
we had to do a stopwatch timer
of when and this was back in

1494
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:08,160
1980911991 We.
Had a we had a stopwatch.

1495
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:14,560
And we and we had to time a 30
minute newscast of actual news.

1496
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,840
OK, not sports.
Sports was taken out, so you got

1497
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,880
cut down to like 22 minutes. 3
minutes I think if I remember.

1498
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,440
Correctly was the actual hard
factual news that was reported

1499
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:32,400
in in that 30 minute broadcast.
Taking out sports because sports

1500
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,440
was considered entertainment.
Taking out all the commercial

1501
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,640
breaks.
You have 3 minutes of actual

1502
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,280
concrete news that could be fact
checked and verified.

1503
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,200
And weather took out weather,
weather.

1504
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,720
And sports were out of the mix,
but weather was was an average

1505
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,240
of 4 minutes long and sports was
an average of 6 minutes long.

1506
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,160
Because you know, everybody
watches the news back then

1507
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,200
because I want to see the
sports.

1508
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,040
And you couldn't Fast forward.
You had to sit through the news

1509
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,160
segment to wait for sports.
It doesn't count traffic in the

1510
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,600
morning.
So it wasn't, it was an evening.

1511
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,200
It was an evening broad, like a
6:00 news was the assignment we

1512
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,000
had to, and it was really it.
Was maybe 3 minutes.

1513
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,480
Of total actual relevant news
that.

1514
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,520
Is crazy good.
Or bad everything else was.

1515
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760
Banter hey Mike, how you doing
today, man?

1516
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,880
You know, I just drove in this
day from the from the, you know,

1517
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,800
from the east side and hey man,
there's a wreck on the freeway

1518
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,480
and it was crazy.
You know, they had all these

1519
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:23,200
tires that came off this truck.
It was insane.

1520
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,680
Got in all the big plans for
the.

1521
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,480
Weekend no plans.
No plans.

1522
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,040
Man, no plans at all.
You know, maybe going to go

1523
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,760
fishing with my son if he's if
he comes, that's great, Chris.

1524
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,000
That's.
Great, right, Right.

1525
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,720
You know.
And that is how it goes.

1526
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,720
Yeah, it was just banter.
Which I mean, you know,

1527
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,760
Anchorman kind of kind of, you
know, for lack of a better

1528
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,400
example, the, the, the fluff in
news.

1529
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:47,680
You.
Know the way they do that shit

1530
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,480
and it was a great
representation.

1531
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:52,840
Of it, it's my exaggeration of
400,000 homes for sale, right?

1532
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,720
That was an exaggerated version
of how the news is.

1533
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,480
But there was 98% truth in what
they were telling you.

1534
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,040
Yeah, yeah.
And back then for sure, because.

1535
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,720
You had to be the number one.
It's it was my same point to

1536
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,400
Paul about the radio DJ back in
the day, man, They were the

1537
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,120
person that you looked up to.
Absolutely.

1538
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,080
You're Walter Cronkite.
You're even your local news guy,

1539
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,920
You know, he was the local news
guy, but he was the number one

1540
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,120
local news guy.
Every market has that.

1541
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,600
Yeah.
Who do you like to?

1542
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,480
Listen to well, I always.
Go to this guy because more

1543
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,120
often than not, it's the filler
that keeps you coming back.

1544
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,960
Is that the person is that
sounds Yeah, the person.

1545
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,680
And then they always had.
That mystique because you

1546
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,320
couldn't get into radio station,
the doors, everything was vacuum

1547
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,040
sealed, TV stations vacuum
sealed.

1548
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,680
You you couldn't, you couldn't
breach that thing.

1549
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,760
That movie airheads with Brendan
Fraser and Adam Sandler and

1550
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,560
Steve Buscemi where they're
trying to get into the right,

1551
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,920
where they're trying to get into
the right radio station to have

1552
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,600
their music played.
That's true.

1553
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,920
Like you, when I, when I did
stuff on radio as my own on air

1554
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,000
side of it, I, I, I'm on the
air.

1555
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,680
I had a radio show on iheart,
OK, And I was still I could get

1556
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,440
in the building with my card,
with my card.

1557
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,160
I go up to my floor with my
card.

1558
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,400
I couldn't get past the lobby of
the elevator lobby with a card.

1559
01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:12,240
I had to wait.
I don't.

1560
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,440
Want everybody?
Having access to that

1561
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:17,280
microphone, for sure I've been
in the microphone.

1562
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,800
Dude, I just, when I come up to
the floor of my show, which was

1563
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,560
the 3rd floor, I had to wait
until my producer, Steve

1564
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,000
Giannini came and opened the
door and I had access to, I

1565
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,400
could go to the building like I
had a show, like it wasn't some

1566
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,000
punk ass coming from the street.
I had a show, but I still

1567
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,360
couldn't breach that door unless
somebody breached it for me.

1568
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,520
Mark Jeffrey, sometimes he'd
come get me because, again, I

1569
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,600
couldn't get past that door and
I was an on air personality when

1570
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,280
I did my spots with KUPDKSLX&KD.
KB.

1571
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,080
I would like go to the front,
the front entrance of the thing

1572
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,480
and they'd have to buzz me in
and then I go into a lobby that,

1573
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,840
you know, kind of like it's just
a lockdown lobby.

1574
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,680
Who are you here to see?
Mom?

1575
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,040
You know, J David Holmes was
KUPD.

1576
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,360
I'm here to see J David.
J David Holmes.

1577
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,120
We're doing a commercial for my
real estate.

1578
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,200
Oh, who are you?
I'm Kristen.

1579
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,680
Yeah, Yeah, that's me.
OK, we'll have a seat.

1580
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,720
He'll be right out.
So I'd have to sit and then

1581
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,840
you'd hear the buzz and then JD
would open the door and say,

1582
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,440
come on back, Chris, you know,
But that's the thing.

1583
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:21,920
It's it's locked down.
So from from a listener, you

1584
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,160
know.
That's where Aerosmith is.

1585
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,760
Going to because they announced
Aerosmith's in studio and that's

1586
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,680
why, because too many.
Crazy fucking people showed up

1587
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,640
back in the day, right?
Either to get a look at, if you

1588
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,640
go back as far as like the
Wolfman Jack days, now that was

1589
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,040
really nobody even knew what
that guy looked like.

1590
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,760
There's no video.
There was no, you know, you

1591
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,520
might see him in a newspaper
article or something once in a

1592
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:44,840
while.
And rarely would there be a

1593
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,240
photo of a radio DJ, you know,
So that guy was just a voice in

1594
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,040
the night or a voice in the
morning, or Yep, then you found

1595
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:52,760
out.
That was a real.

1596
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,960
Person And all of a sudden
people probably started flooding

1597
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,040
the radio stations and then
passed that.

1598
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,720
Like you said, the band's going
to be there.

1599
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,200
Oh my God, Def Leppard's going
to be at such and such studio.

1600
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,480
Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones,
they're going to go talk to

1601
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,000
whoever.
So then it became a building.

1602
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,360
With no.
Windows and a big tower I

1603
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,640
remember in Dave Pratt.
'S heyday, he was going down the

1604
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,000
I-10 with Tommy Lee from Motley
crew in a a bulldozer because

1605
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,440
somehow Tommy convinced the
construction work in Gimbo the

1606
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:26,400
bulldozer and they're driving
down the I-10 towards oh fuck.

1607
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,280
It's PIR now.
What the hell was?

1608
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,800
That Compton, Compton Terrace,
driving towards Compton Terrace

1609
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,560
in a bulldozer.
Him and Pratt in a bulldozer.

1610
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,920
That's where I saw a White
Zombie.

1611
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,680
Oh, right on.
Yeah.

1612
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,800
But that kind of shit that's
that's that's the that's the

1613
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,120
allure of of disc jockeys.
That's the thing that, you know,

1614
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,400
these guys had they had when I
moved to Phoenix.

1615
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,120
He.
Was the main heroes, yeah.

1616
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,920
He was.
Yeah, and still is, I mean.

1617
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,720
It just, it's a different to me.
It's just a different era.

1618
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:56,720
You know, it is.
You can't.

1619
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,080
Just like you.
Said when we were kids and we

1620
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,000
went to a concert, you can't
recreate that for these kids now

1621
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,880
today because there's too much
exposure of every band that they

1622
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,640
like and there's just not that
era of mystique that there was

1623
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:16,400
back then, right?
Yep, it's a crazy thing about

1624
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,360
about disc.
Jockeys, man, they had that and

1625
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,160
the same thing with I remember
when I had I was doing, when I

1626
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,520
worked for SeaWorld, there was a
SeaWorld office out in Arizona

1627
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,160
and we were doing, I was dressed
up as Shamu.

1628
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,440
So in the in the late 80s,
eighty. 8 to probably 90.

1629
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,680
That wasn't that wasn't called,
I mean, a high school.

1630
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,960
So 87 to 89, any commercial you
saw on TV with Shamu, you know,

1631
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,760
the, the, the, the like, you
know, Mickey Mouse cart

1632
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,560
Disneyland character Shamu that
that was me.

1633
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,440
And then we did.
It with Dave Muncie.

1634
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,960
Because Dave Muncie had this
whole summer of supervision

1635
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,680
spiel he did every summer for I
remember that name too.

1636
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,840
Watch The Kids Are Right.
So when I met Dave Muncie when

1637
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,720
we were in the house, because it
was just filmed in the backyard

1638
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,480
of the pool, you know, it's kind
of like you're Dave Muncie.

1639
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,120
You know, even though I was
never one of those aw shucks,

1640
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,560
kind of people.
Like I never.

1641
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,080
I never was.
Oh shucks.

1642
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,400
You're, you know, you're.
Dave Munsey.

1643
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,200
Holy shit.
You know, yeah, I'm not going to

1644
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,360
faint or anything.
But everybody has that moment of

1645
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,200
wow, right?
You know, that guy's really

1646
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,120
standing in front of me, right?
So.

1647
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,200
And, and really, it wasn't even,
it wasn't even that 'cause I

1648
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,800
don't, I've never, I've never
looked, I've never seen somebody

1649
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,120
on TV.
And then when I see him in

1650
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,880
person, like, you know, it's
like I met Steve O and I was

1651
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,680
like, what's up, man?
There was nothing, you know, he

1652
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,720
was more intrigued with who I
was, why I was at our heart

1653
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,040
studio than I was who he was and
why he was there.

1654
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,920
They're just people now.
Now when I met Jeff Schwartz,

1655
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,520
the Center for the giants, the
the two errors with Eli, that

1656
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,080
was fun because the size
difference, right?

1657
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,680
Like that.
We, we, we ran in each other in

1658
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,560
the hallway and, and me being me
being a dumb ass, like can you

1659
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,520
get any taller?
And he kind of looks down and he

1660
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,960
kind of chuckled and he shakes.
We said, hey, I'm Jeff.

1661
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,440
I was like, hey, I'm Chris.
I'm like, what are you doing

1662
01:20:56,440 --> 01:20:58,560
here?
There's odds on a Fox Sports,

1663
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,400
the Fox Sports show.
Sports show.

1664
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,080
I was like, right.
And I run my own show, you know,

1665
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,360
And we had little banter.
And then Steve Gianini is like,

1666
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,320
why don't you guys take a
picture?

1667
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,160
I said, that'd be fun.
Let's go into your studio and do

1668
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,160
it.
That's the picture I have with

1669
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,080
his elbow on my head.
Oh, yeah.

1670
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,480
That's a good chat man.
Right.

1671
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,760
And that's just.
But that's like I was.

1672
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,960
I got my suit.
I had a suit getting fixed one

1673
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,280
day and I was at Brothers
Tailoring in downtown Phoenix

1674
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,720
and I walk in to pick it up and
Tom Chambers is there.

1675
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,080
The, you know, the 611 Center
for the Suns is pretty famous.

1676
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,560
Marley's Place.
Yeah, he's pretty famous, pretty

1677
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,440
same as Sky.
In Phoenix.

1678
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:37,360
And so there's a dressing table,
there's probably 4 feet high and

1679
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:42,080
he was sitting on it.
OK, His ass was on the table and

1680
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,800
his legs were bent and his feet
were on the ground 4 feet tall.

1681
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:50,000
So I've come up to like his, his
like between his, his chest and

1682
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,000
his belly button just from that
aspect.

1683
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,800
So, and I knew he was, I
recognized him.

1684
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,760
I'm like, they can't find you a
chair, huh?

1685
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,160
And he chuckled.
And I was like, hey, you know, I

1686
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,200
followed the sun's nice, you
know, you know, I don't remember

1687
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,840
what I said, but it wasn't, it
wasn't like, oh, can I have tab

1688
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,800
tables?
You know I just you.

1689
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:07,760
Know he's like, what are you
here for?

1690
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,680
I saw I'm getting a suit,
getting a suit fixed.

1691
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,760
I said, you know, obviously
you're doing something with the

1692
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,400
suit.
And we kind of chuckled, but one

1693
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,840
of the funniest things.
I saw was Amari Stoudemire come

1694
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,600
into Guitar Center with his
entourage and he can't hide

1695
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,200
himself because nobody's as tall
as Amari Stoudemire.

1696
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:27,040
So all his bodyguards were huge,
but he's like 6 inches taller

1697
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,640
than anybody that was next to
him, right?

1698
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,560
And when you come in with.
Do you really need an entourage?

1699
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,600
Like really, you just need one
person.

1700
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,120
I really only need one person,
maybe 2A driver and and somebody

1701
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,760
that's hanging out with you.
But I don't, I don't need 6

1702
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,880
people.
That's why they're broke.

1703
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,480
That's why I'll deal.
Beckham blew through $100

1704
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:46,560
million in five years.
True, stupid, true.

1705
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,080
Just be cool.
Nobody was.

1706
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,120
I mean, it wasn't like.
It wasn't like he was arrogant

1707
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,440
or anything, but yeah, all those
guys are on the payroll.

1708
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,720
I agree with you.
Yeah, nobody needs now.

1709
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,320
Entourage.
The TV show Entourage.

1710
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,200
HBO.
That's based on Mark Wahlberg's

1711
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,720
life when he went to Hollywood.
Yes.

1712
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,280
Did you know that That's a great
show.

1713
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,120
Yeah.
That's why I.

1714
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,200
Watched it.
Right, so that shows you his his

1715
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,400
three or four guys, which I
could I could see that because

1716
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,680
you're going from here to there
and you're going from nobody to

1717
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,520
everybody knows your name.
You need to have, you need to

1718
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,800
have some type of comfort shield
around you, especially when all

1719
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,400
of us in your life is
microscoped.

1720
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Well, there's levels of fame,
too.

1721
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,880
He's attained a level of fame
that's higher than most people.

1722
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,040
Prince, Michael Jackson, Tom
Cruise.

1723
01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:35,560
You know they can't just go to
the grocery store.

1724
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:36,760
True.
Which sucks.

1725
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:37,920
Which is.
Fucking terrible.

1726
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,880
But I I still don't think you
need 5 people because what

1727
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,080
attracts you more?
If if I see five people walking

1728
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,240
around one person, I'm going to
I'm going to see that quicker

1729
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,800
than I'm going to see the one
person walking.

1730
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,320
Yeah, I wish I could remember
who it.

1731
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,960
Was there was a super and I got
to commit these things to memory

1732
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,960
better.
There was a super famous person

1733
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,160
that's oh, it was David Lee
Roth.

1734
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,200
Yeah.
He drove himself to Rogan's

1735
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,400
podcast.
Yeah, in a Toyota.

1736
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,240
And Joe's like do.
You always, you know, are you

1737
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,240
always by yourself?
Don't you have bodyguard or

1738
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,120
whatever?
No, man, I've always been like

1739
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,080
this and he kind of alluded to
what you said.

1740
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,160
You're way less conspicuous if
you're by yourself than you are

1741
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,000
if you have 5 people with you.
Yeah, remember the Harrison

1742
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,480
Ford?
Thing we showed where he was

1743
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:23,120
like ducking those people,
right?

1744
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,200
If he would have wore a hat and
had sunglasses on, nobody would

1745
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,560
have fucking recognized him.
He would have been an old man

1746
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,120
walking in in the streets of New
York.

1747
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,760
So to me, it's a conscious
decision not to wear a hat and

1748
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,960
sunglasses.
Sure, even if.

1749
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,480
Even if it's not conscious, it's
some it like look at me.

1750
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,000
Yeah, on some line.
Yeah, it's not.

1751
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,600
It's not hard to disguise
yourself very low key.

1752
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,880
In a city like New York.
There's millions and millions of

1753
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,600
people and that's a walking
city, so.

1754
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,240
There's always people around,
right?

1755
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:55,920
There's I saw.
Something the other day on

1756
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,560
Instagram, some guys walking and
they they picked him up because

1757
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,880
he's wearing this overly
obnoxious for a coat with

1758
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,360
different colors and shit.
So somebody's like you could see

1759
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,280
him the the camera come on, he's
he's falling.

1760
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,720
Hey man, hey man, hey man, hey
man, the guy fights with say,

1761
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,880
who are you?
Who are you with that coat?

1762
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,600
You have to be somebody.
You're not just nobody wearing

1763
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,160
that coat.
The guy was Andrew Palais or

1764
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,600
something.
I don't I don't have never heard

1765
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,080
the guy.
So they're having a little

1766
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,840
conversation, but it's like, OK,
don't wear the coat.

1767
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,480
Nobody fucking gives a shit.
Justin Timberlake, if you

1768
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:36,280
haven't seen his DUIDWI footage
from it's it's dude was hammered

1769
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:39,120
you.
Have all the money in the world.

1770
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,160
There's no reason you can't have
a driver.

1771
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,960
You can't take an Uber.
I said the same thing.

1772
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,480
And it was funny when he's in
the.

1773
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:45,960
Car.
He waited till about two or

1774
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,800
three minutes into it.
Well, I'm Justin Timberlake.

1775
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,560
What are you doing?
Well, I'm on a world tour.

1776
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,720
Well, what's that?
What's a world tour?

1777
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,120
Yeah, what's a world tour?
Really.

1778
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,280
I'm touring the country.
I'm touring the world with my

1779
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,280
band.
I'm a singer-songwriter,

1780
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,080
musician.
My name is Justin Timberlake.

1781
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:07,160
Maybe you've heard of me.
But he's he skirts around.

1782
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,920
It you know, he he skirts around
it, which was which I thought

1783
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:17,680
was crazy.
While you look that up, I got to

1784
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:18,440
take.
A leak?

1785
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,040
No, I was just.
I was just bonding.

1786
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,960
With Nikki, we.
We can bounce dude.

1787
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,040
I got.
Laundry and shit to do.

1788
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,160
I got to finish cleaning my
house and stuff, you know, so we

1789
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,800
can wrap this fucker up, Wrap it
up, you know, then you.

1790
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,240
Can go to the.
Bathroom and all that kind of

1791
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,600
jazz, you know, And edit
content.

1792
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,640
What's our who?
Who's who's Aaron Sunday?

1793
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,280
I'll tell you as soon as we're
done.

1794
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,120
OK, so boys and girls.
This is this is the Crystal Mike

1795
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,640
show.
We've we've, we've chatted you

1796
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,880
around for a little over an hour
and a half.

1797
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,760
Thank you for listening and
joining us the, the, the, the

1798
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,160
journey down vinyl records.
If you're feeling sad, suicidal,

1799
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,280
depressed, hopefully this shows
helps you not feel that way.

1800
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,360
If you still feel that way goes,
you know, go for a jog, go

1801
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,440
workout, go scream in a pillow.
Go find some way to talk to.

1802
01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:00,960
If you cannot find someone, text
988.

1803
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,840
Somebody's there waiting to talk
to you and help you feel better

1804
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,480
about yourself and what you're
going through.

1805
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,960
Do not leave a hole in somebody
else's heart by not waking up

1806
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,920
tomorrow.
Tomorrow is a better day with

1807
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,520
you.
And I know I say it all the time

1808
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,920
and we always close with this,
but don't feel like it's we're

1809
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,640
being complacent because we
truly have been impacted by this

1810
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,560
in our own personal lives.
So just, you know, don't be that

1811
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,000
person that takes your own life.
Don't do that until until next

1812
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,520
time which will be.
April, right?

1813
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,240
No, no, We have one more show.
We have one more show in March.

1814
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:34,800
See you later, Mike.
Love everybody.

1815
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,120
Peace.
Stop it.

1816
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,160
Stop it, Stop it, Stop it.
Peace, Peace.