#101 - Conversations From The Abyss

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I know, I know you can, man, I
know you can.

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Oh oh shit, we're live and I
totally didn't have the.

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News going on live, ladies.
And gentlemen, that was that was

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a little behind the scenes like,
you know, because I hit the

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button to go.
I have another behind the scenes

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question.
OK, OK.

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Where's our names?
Where Oh my name I can see my

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name?
Oh, I can't see mine.

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You can't see Mike.
It's right there, man.

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Mother, it's not online, but
that's.

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Weird, weird, weird, weird,
wacky stuff, man.

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Because every man would say
weird wacky stuff.

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Or is that Johnny?
Johnny Carson weird wacky stuff.

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Whose?
Line was that was that Johnny's

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line?
I don't know, man.

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I don't know.
That's a good that's a good

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conversation to have later.
So we got to start the show off

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with, with this by far one of my
favorite intros to a television

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series.
OK.

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And I'm going to, I'm just going
to bust out on this cause 'cause

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it's, it's in my head and I can
hear it.

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Before we came on, I was singing
to myself.

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So making your way in the world
today takes everything you've

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got.
Taking a break from all your

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worries sure would help a lot.
Wouldn't you like to get away

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sometimes?
We want to go where everybody

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knows your name.
I'm out of key and they're

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always glad you came.
Dun Dun, Dun.

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You want to be where you can see
which I was all the same.

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You want to be where everybody
knows your name and.

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If you don't know that, you've
been living under a rock.

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Rice right, so today is yeah
right.

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So today's March, May 20th and
we lost George Went, who was

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famously known as Norm on
Cheers, 78 years old, I think it

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said.
Great character.

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Great, great fucking character
and A and A and and a staple of

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a character, right?
Like you.

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You think of Cheers.
I always think of Norm.

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I don't know about anybody else
and maybe a little bit of Cliff,

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but it's more Norm to me.
Absolutely.

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He's the first character that
comes to mind for me for sure.

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And then Cliff sitting next to
him, and then sitting behind the

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bar and yeah.
Yeah, I never, I never really

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liked Ted Danson.
I still don't really like him as

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as an actor.
He kind of seems like one of

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those pompous, arrogant,
narcissistic fucks.

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I mean I could be wrong.
No, I there's something about

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him.
I'm trying to even think of a

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series that I liked him in.
See, that's it.

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All you, all you think about him
is.

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Cheers.
I guess that's.

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Like he's, he's done other
stuff.

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He's he's intolerated.
Him in.

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Cheers, right.
Yeah, I can.

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I can see the things that he's
done, but I can't, I can't name

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them now, unfortunately.
He's in the remake of Naked Gun.

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The Naked Gun, You know, police
squad shit.

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He's playing Leslie.
Nelson's.

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Character.
Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm

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sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Liam Neeson's doing that.

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Liam Neeson I, I think of the, I
think, I think of the same

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because there's a thing on
Netflix that has Ted Danson on

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it and he's kind of right and he
kind of looks.

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Liam Neeson is cool.
He is cool, but Ted Danson's on

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has this thing on Netflix I
think where you see him and he

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looks like he's he's playing the
Liam Neeson character.

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And I was just like, no, fuck,
please don't.

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Please don't, Please don't,
don't, don't be that guy.

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Just don't be that guy, you
know?

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It's all about the dollars,
buddy.

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It's all about the dollars.
Right.

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It is, you know, So yeah, that's
that's what happened today,

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Norm.
Norm has passed away.

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Yeah, I don't know how I missed
that.

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Did that like just happened?
Or it just it just happened in

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the last hour so I just randomly
I've been.

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Oh, that's why.
I've been responding the

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respondents of stuff on Reddit,
real estate post and shit, kind

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of educating the masses and did
a blog.

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I made a handful of videos
marketing and shit and it just

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it popped up.
No, normally Georgia went died,

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you know, so.
Yeah, definitely a staple of

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American sitcom television for
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Yeah.
Yeah, he was one of those

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character actors that that
basically took his spot, you

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know, like, like owned it, owned
his, owned his character for

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sure.
Yeah, if you watch the show like

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you and I did, you can totally
see in your mind there he is

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sitting at the barn, right?
Just totally had that.

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He had that posture totally that
defined his character for sure.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And and and and then some

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because again, you know, Sam was
there and the Sam and Diane

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thing on Cheers was kind of
cool, you know, for a while, but

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it's just, it kind of got old.
It's it's just like, OK, you

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know, it's, I mean, I get every
TV show needs to have a

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relationship in it because it's
got to draw in all, all the

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demographics and women like
relationships and shit.

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And you know, my, my, my cohort
on Co host on on my radio show

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Real Talk USA, Margie, she was
actually on cheers.

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She was an extra in the
background.

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That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, she has all kinds.

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She had all kinds of fun
stories.

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I love those little.
Claim to fame.

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Yeah, growing up in in
California and then she worked

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she she's, I can drop some of
these.

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So she worked at a, at a, at a
movie studio.

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I don't know, we'll just call it
Warner Brothers for lack of

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better name.
And she would go on her smoke

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break.
I don't know what her role was,

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but one of the time she went on
her smoke break, she was Outback

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smoke with Alec Baldwin, you
know, back before he killed

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somebody.
Said he was quick, quick waited.

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Like you wouldn't believe like
that dude.

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Just you say something and boom,
he's right back at you firing.

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OK, there you go.
How?

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How do you feel about that
subject?

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About him shooting that dude in
the in the movie, Yeah.

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OK.
So if you got to go back in time

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a little bit.
Like you know, I have, you know

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I have an opinion about
everything.

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I do.
I do so, so but this, but I'm

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going to preface it with I'm
going to preface it with this.

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Remember the movie The Crow with
Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son?

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Yeah, I've seen it about 100
times for.

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Sure, great movie, great movie,
fantastic.

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He was he was killed in in the
movie with with it wasn't it

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wasn't real bullets, but it was
enough.

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There was enough bullets being
fired at him that the shards

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ended up piercing skin and
killing him because they're

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using blanks and blanks still
discharge.

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It's not just when you have a
gun, you still have a bullet

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coming out.
It's just not loaded with

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gunpowder and shit.
It's, you know, that should have

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taught everybody in the movie
industry gun safety on a grand

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scale because Brandon Lee was
just breaking into the scene.

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He was.
He's legend.

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His father's a legend.
Right.

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I told her to remember that
story.

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Yeah, and it was, it was a
great, it was a great movie.

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And he was, I mean, he, he, he
was a good looking human.

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He was ripped.
He I mean, just everything.

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He would have been a superstar
for sure.

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Yes, he would have been an
action superstar hero type

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thing.
So, so with the Alec Baldwin

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thing, we don't know anything
but what we've read and seen and

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heard.
But if he's messing around with

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a gun, a prop gun, nonetheless,
he's still messing around with a

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gun and not handling it properly
and then it accidentally goes

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off and kills somebody.
I, I got to call BS on that.

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He should have, he should have
got in trouble for that because

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he was, he was holding a prop
gun and playing with it.

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So right.
I'm going to stop you right

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there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because here's how I feel about
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OK.
You know that I had to pick one

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or the other, right?
I like, I went out shooting guns

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with the first guy that sang and
played bass in our band.

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He he was really into it.
Took Scott and I out to the

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desert several times, got us
into shooting guns.

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It was a blast.
But I had to choose between do I

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want to have nicer musical
equipment or be a gun collector

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because they cost about the same
amount of money, right?

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Guns are expensive.
They are I don't my point of

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this long winded.
No, it's not long.

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It's just you and I, man.
Is thank you.

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My point is I don't really know
a whole lot about gun safety

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other than the little bit that I
learned for that six month

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period before, you know, we
moved on as a different band.

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But right, right.
I know enough.

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When you pick up a gun, you
check everything before you ever

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think about firing that weapon,
right?

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Is the safety on?
Is it loaded properly?

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You know blah blah blah blah.
Is all the safety checks done

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first before you even think
about pointing that gun anywhere

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but at a target, right?
Exactly.

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That's just the way that Mike
laid it out.

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That way you don't kill anybody.
We only shoot in this direction

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and we do all these things
before we point the gun at the

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target.
So he my point is he should have

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checked to make sure that there
weren't live rounds in that gun.

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Absolutely.
And who put the lab rounds in

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the gun to begin with?
Because, again, it's a prop gun

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on a movie set that has no
business.

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They never did.
Did they ever figure that out?

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I don't know.
Because if he didn't load the

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gun, he's for surely 50%
responsible.

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But then the.
Person negligent homicide.

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There you go.
Negligent homicide?

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Absolutely, like you, you load
it or not, you have the gun in

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your hand.
If if somebody comes to my house

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and, and I get my shotgun out
right and, and, and we struggle,

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they take my shotgun, he ends up
killing me in my house and he's

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the intruder.
It's not, it's not murder, it's

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self-defense, but it's still,
it's still, it's a homicide

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thing because it's, you know,
breaking in and all that kind of

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jazz.
You know it's you.

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You still neglected.
I don't know if that was the

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best example, but you still
neglected to maintain a level of

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safety.
That was a horrible example.

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Just so you know, that I call
you out, just.

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I'm not going to sugarcoat shit.
Yeah, that was a.

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Horrible I was there.
Terrible I was.

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I was trying.
To because you would have been

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let off on self-defense.
The guy broke in your home and

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you had the absolute right to
defend yourself, especially in

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the great state of Arizona.
Right.

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But if you took where?
It's going kind of like the Wild

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West.
Right.

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But if you took my gun from me,
then he killed me, would that

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still be relevant?
Would that still be?

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Then it's murder.
Right.

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Why?
Is it murder?

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Or is it?
He killed you with your own gun.

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Still murder, but who?
But he was self defending

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himself right?
No, he's in here.

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He broke in your house.
You would be the greatest

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defense lawyer in the history of
the fucking world.

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He's arguing against himself.
The judge would be like, you

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win.
I'm fucking confused.

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That's awesome.
No?

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For surely murder.
He took your gun from you and

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then shot you in your own home.
Unless you're going to claim

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that he's going to claim
squatter's rights at this point.

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Right.
Yeah, right.

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No, I live here, Officer.
No, I I just moved in right

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after this guy died.
That's funny, man.

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That's that's so funny.
Now you know why we're into

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serial killers.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's.

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Just right.
Oh dude.

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The Ed, right?
Speaking of serial killers, the

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Ed Gaines stories coming out
this month on on Netflix.

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So sweet, right?
It's supposed to.

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Be really dark and disturbing.
Yeah, it's supposed to be very

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dark and disturbing, so we'll
we'll see I.

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Don't think it has a happy
ending.

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I don't think so either.
I it's, I'm, I'm the one thing

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about him.
I've seen stuff on him, but

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they've never made a movie about
him.

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So that that I think it's going
to be the interesting part of

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it.
Did you see they're making a a

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Tyson movie with Jamie Foxx and
Christian Bale?

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No, no, no, no.
Yeah.

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OK.
So that was I saw that the other

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day.
Jamie Foxx.

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No, I'm sorry, Sammy.
Jamie Foxx and Samuel Jackson.

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Samuel Jackson, I think is
playing Don King and Jamie Foxx

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is playing Tyson.
The other movie I'm I'm thinking

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about with Christian Bale is
Christian Bale and Nicholas Cage

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are playing John Madden and Al
Davis Cage.

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Right, Nicholas, I know, but
still, man, Nicholas Cage, he's

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one of those dudes that I mean,
you love him or hate him 'cause

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he fucking does.
He doesn't turn anything down

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right?
But like I do image.

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I do like a lot of his movies.
For yeah, I do too, and his and

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his.
I don't know if it's got to be

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prosthetics and shit, because
he's huge.

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He's mad and huge in this thing.
I saw picture for it.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I think I think that's going

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to be good because it'll be cool
to see what for sure what what I

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I want to see the dynamic of
Davis and Madden because,

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because that would be cool.
Because obviously it's it's just

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starting with Madden's coaching
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And then I'm going to assume it
leads into the broadcast booth

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because why wouldn't it be
stupid if it didn't?

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But that'll be interesting to
see what kind of human he was,

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at least on that aspect.
There was somebody recently

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telling, and I wish I got to
write these things down.

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They're told the best Al Davis
story ever, and it had to do

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with the draft, like he screwed
some kid from going somewhere

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else.
Yeah, I can't remember how it

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went down, but I was like, holy
crap, that guy was gangster.

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Oh, like that kind of gangster.
Yeah, like the the kid would

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ended up somewhere else that he
probably wanted to go and

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somehow Al Davis went in and did
some kind of underhanded deal

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with the draft.
And you know, things were

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different back then.
Well, that I think, but there's

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I still think there's Slim Shady
shit going on though on a whole

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question.
You know, like, I mean, just

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everybody wants to say the whole
shudder.

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Sanders, you know, dropped to
the fifth round was the NFL and

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you know, the whole nonsense of
that.

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But what I think it really was,
nobody gives a damn who your dad

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is right at that level for sure.
No, no, you're not.

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I don't.
I mean, because there's plenty

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of sons that have played the
that join the NFL that you don't

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hear about because they're not
as good as their fathers were.

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And there's some that are
there's some that are kind of,

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you know, close to it, but not
right.

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There's I saw something last
week because you being a

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baseball fan, Cecil Fielder,
right?

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So there's the third generation
of the Fielder families now

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playing baseball.
Yes.

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Yeah, that's that.
Now that's legit.

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But he still had to work his way
up.

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It was absolutely, it wasn't
like you're just drafted to the

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majors and you're starting
tomorrow.

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You still got to you still got
to put your time in.

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And I think that's what what the
Sanders family was thinking,

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that that Shadir was just going
to walk on and be a number one

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pick overall, which, yeah, you
if you don't have the skill set

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and all the stuff that came out
afterwards, too, he wasn't

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prepared.
He he was interviewing the

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coaches instead of letting them
interview him in the arrogance

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and the narcissism.
And he eventually fired his dad

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as his agent.
So what does that tell you?

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That tells you a lot.
Tells you everything.

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When I heard that, I was like,
huh, you know, I, I don't know,

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maybe I wanted to.
I don't think I wanted to see a

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different side than you when
we've been talking about this.

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But I'm glad you brought that
up, because when I read that I

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was like, holy shit, yeah, OK,
now I'm on Chris's side on this

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because that speaks volumes when
everyone thinks there's some

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kind of nepotism or whatever
going on and all of a sudden

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that was the.
Word.

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That was the word.
It here's a here's a good

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correlation in the music world.
I just read an article with

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Wolfgang Van Halen and one of
the questions that the guy asked

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him and I would want to ask him
this too.

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Sure.
Did your dad teach you how to

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play guitar?
You know, anybody would want to

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know that Eddie Van Halen was
one of the greatest guitar

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players on the planet, and he
flat out says no.

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My dad was a horrible teacher.
He was a great.

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Player, but he couldn't teach
for shit because he would just

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play it real fast and say you do
it like this.

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But he could never slow it down
enough to where he could grasp

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it as a young child to pick it
up.

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You got to slow things down to
like, you know, so less than

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half speed, maybe 1/3.
So imagine being in that room,

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right?
Eddie Van Halen sitting over

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there in the recliner.
You got Mike the guitar teacher

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sitting there looking at
Wolfgang, facing each other with

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the chairs.
And you're showing them how you

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know the hit the the the frets
and shit.

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We just did a lot of that.
Oh, did he?

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Yeah, right on.
And then looking over and seeing

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Eddie, like just eyeing you,
like, what are you fucking

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teaching my son, man?
Who?

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Who?
That's not right.

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That's wrong.
Because, you know, he was a

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control freak.
He had to be for who he was.

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You know, from a music
standpoint.

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Not I'm saying, you know, a
lifelong, but from a music

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standpoint.
I didn't know de Weasel Zappa

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taught him how to play guitar.
That was cool.

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He didn't teach him I'm, he was
pretty well self-taught, but I

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think that they hung out and,
you know, like he picked up some

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things from him because Eddie
and de Weasel had been friends

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forever.
Oh see, I didn't know that.

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Oh yeah.
I did not know that.

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I'm pretty sure, for example,
lived in that neighborhood.

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OK, yeah, I know.
I know.

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Wolfgang, like his dad, plays
everything.

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Eddie gave De Weasel his first
guitar.

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Oh, no shit.
Yeah, I did not know that weird

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wild stuff on the Venice night
show.

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Johnny Caution.
Do you like Johnny Caution?

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Yeah.
Wolfgang stuff that was.

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Oh yeah.
I try every now and then.

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I can get it every now and then.
I can get my little accents

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right off.
I have I his new his new song is

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kind of fun.
It's it's it's you remember that

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movie Till dusk, till dusk, from
dusk till dawn with with George

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Clooney.
Yeah.

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Yeah, right.
Wasn't Antonio Banderas and.

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That yes, he was.
Yes, he was.

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So was, so was the, I forget his
name now, the bad Lieutenant

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Actor Harvey Keitel.
Great freaking actor.

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Oh, I love Harvey.
Keitel.

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If you ever saw bad Lieutenant,
that's the epitome of Harvey

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Keitel.
Oh my gosh, there is also.

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One, I've seen them all too.
Yeah, just like Big Hackman and

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clean the Eastwood Harvey
Keitel.

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I've seen all those.
Movies.

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Yeah, Mickey Rourke had one and
and I just every time I think of

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Harvey Keitel, Bad Lieutenant, I
think of this Mickey Rourke one.

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Well, he was a barfly.
The movie is called Barfly.

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I don't think it's so good, but
I haven't been able to find it

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for years, man.
But it's called Barfly.

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Like he legit plays this little
gimpy, no offense world

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character that, you know, is not
all physically there.

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And he's always searching for
that one thing like, you know,

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those people that just I need
that one.

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If I, if I hit the lottery,
that's I'm, I'm set, man.

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Oh yeah.
And he's trying and he's trying

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to put on this this boxing
match.

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And if he if, you know, he's in
debt up to his eyeballs and

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everybody's after him.
And but I mean, he's Mickey

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Rourke was was brilliant.
He's a brilliant actor, man.

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I wish he never did the freaking
plastic surgery because it just

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destroyed his face.
But totally agree.

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Great actor, man.
The wrestler.

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You've had to seen the wrestler.
He was epic in the wrestler.

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It was a great movie.
But yeah, so Harvey Keitel was

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in it.
So the video of his of his new

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song he just released, just kind
of it kind of has that vibe to

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it.
When the when when the the the

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bar turns and everybody starts
turning the vampires and zombies

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and crap.
Right.

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Miles Kennedy's in it.
His head blows up.

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I saw that that's.
Awesome because because when I

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watched I was like, like, that
looks like Miles Kennedy.

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And that's what made me go watch
it because I read I think it.

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Yeah, it was just a headline on
Facebook that said Miles Kennedy

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appears in mammoth new video or
whatever.

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Yeah, see, I, I see that.
I saw it from the fact that I

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follow both of them and and
Wolfgang had dropped something

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about or maybe Miles dropped
something about going on tour

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with Wolfgang.
Yeah, that's awesome.

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And then that just led me down
the path of, well, Wolfgang his

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his second tour he opened for
Alter Bridge.

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Yeah, like I when I saw I've.
Been following his career from

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the beginning because, yeah, the
thing that I appreciate about

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him is he is pretty much
self-taught and he plays

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everything.
He said.

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Like Alex showed him a couple
things on drums and Michael

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might have showed him some
things on bass or whatever, but

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for the most part it was just
him.

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You know, his dad's out on tour
with the rest of the guys and

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he's sitting at home.
Hey, I got the coolest equipment

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in the history of mankind.
To listen to his album and know

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that he's played everything on
there is fascinating.

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He's the bass grader, he's the
drummer, he's the background

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singer, he's the lead singer,
he's the songwriter.

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That's impressive.
Yes, and that's kind of like a

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la Prince, right?
Because Prince would play

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everything in his.
Couldn't agree with that one.

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Phil Collins.
Yeah, I didn't really Phil

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Collins.
I didn't know Phil Collins.

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Phil Collins can play like 19
different instruments.

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I don't know if he played all of
the instruments on his albums,

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but he played quite a few of.
Them No shit.

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OK, I didn't know that.
I I knew.

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I knew.
I knew Prince.

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I didn't know Wolfgang.
That's legit.

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I know Kid Rock.
I don't know if he plays

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everything, but I know Kid Rock.
He's Cape I love.

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Right, because one of the one of
the things I've seen him twice

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and one of the things he does on
stage during one of the songs is

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he'll jump from from musician to
musician spot on the stage.

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So he's singing and then he'll
jump over to the piano guy.

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Don't jump over to the drummer.
They'll jump to the bass, jump

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to the guitar.
And if there's a horn section or

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shit, he does the whole gamut
during one song, which is.

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Do you know the Kid Rock Vanilla
Ice story?

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No.
So you remember the album Devil

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Without a Cause, right?
His breakout album had a middle

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finger in the middle of the CD,
right?

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And all the kids went, it's
awesome because you know, that's

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what we did back then.
That's cool, man.

451
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:15,400
That guy's like, fuck the man.
Here's the story behind that

452
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240
middle finger on that CD.
He was signed to Atlantic

453
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,040
Records.
I don't know who he ended up

454
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,840
signing with back in the day.
I think it was Geff.

455
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560
And it doesn't matter because it
wasn't in Atlantic.

456
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,480
OK.
So he's already got a deal.

457
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,000
They're ready to start promoting
him, recording an album.

458
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,040
They're 100% behind Kid Rock.
Along comes this guy named

459
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,640
Vanilla Ice Ice Ice and they
could only fund one of the

460
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,960
artists.
No kidding.

461
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,360
And they drop Kid Rock.
So I'm almost positive Geffen

462
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,480
Geffen picked him up, you know,
so many years later, right?

463
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920
He still had to fight and scrape
and claw to get to the top.

464
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,280
Another 3456 years, whatever it
was, because Vanilla Ice broke

465
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000
in what, the mid 80s?
Late 80s?

466
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Ladies.
Yeah, maybe even the 90s

467
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,280
because.
No, it was 80s for sure because

468
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,520
OK, Devil Without a Cause
probably came out in what, 93

469
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,840
maybe?
OK.

470
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720
So Vanilla Ice would have had to
been probably late 80s.

471
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,760
So he had to still fight for
another 3 or 4 years to get to

472
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,000
the top, you know, after he had
already been there.

473
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,240
He's like, I got a record deal,
I'm ready to go, and all of a

474
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,960
sudden they just kicked me to
the curb for this guy who's got

475
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,800
one.
Fucking song. 1985 was was when

476
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,720
Ville Ice first hit the scene.
I was right the first time I

477
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,080
said mid 80s.
Kid Rock debut.

478
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,400
No, I just want to know when
Devil Without a Cause came out

479
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,800
because I don't think anybody
cared about him until then.

480
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440
About Devil without a cause,
where is?

481
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800
It that's when the whole world
knew who Kid Rock was.

482
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,320
Yeah, my.
Name is Kid.

483
00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,720
He fucking yelled it at you
right from the get go.

484
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280
Yeah, kid.
Rock returned to turn, to turn

485
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,400
to turn.
A fucking bad ass riff.

486
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,880
Yeah.
I couldn't hear that thing loud

487
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,160
enough on my speakers when I
heard it the first time.

488
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,080
I'm like, this is this is the
coolest fucking thing I've ever

489
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760
heard.
Right, it was dude and the fact

490
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,840
that he was he mixed, he mixed
1998 devil out of cause.

491
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,880
So look how long.
He had to wait from 1985 to 10.

492
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,360
Years, dude.
No wonder there was a middle

493
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:34,240
finger on that fucking album.
That's the story behind that.

494
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,240
That's crazy dude.
I heard it from his own mouth on

495
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,960
one of his documentaries.
That's crazy.

496
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Yeah, I had no I.
Don't have a bad taste in your

497
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,800
mouth.
And then now he's still I mean,

498
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,440
villain Ice is relevant.
Villain Ice did OK for for for

499
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,080
his.
He's not Kid Rock, though.

500
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,680
No, he doesn't have Kid Rock
money, that's for sure.

501
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,760
Kid Rock's got that middle.
Finger money, that's for sure,

502
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,080
right?
Yeah, that's absolutely for

503
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,720
sure.
So we were supposed to have a

504
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,320
guest on the show today.
By the way, this is the Chris

505
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,320
and Mike show.
We are on Instagram, Facebook

506
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040
and YouTube.
Go ahead and give us a follow on

507
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280
the Instagram, Facebook, and
then you can subscribe on the

508
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440
YouTube channel because we drop
shorts twice a day and the

509
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,120
shorts don't coincide with our
show.

510
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,400
There are different shorts from
different people that were on

511
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800
our show at random times.
It's pretty fantastic.

512
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,080
I'm telling you.
It's beautiful people.

513
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,320
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing.

514
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,040
You're going to absolutely just
love.

515
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,600
Just love.
The kids seem to dig them as

516
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,120
we're just going to say, the
kids seem to dig them.

517
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,120
Yeah, you're just going to love
the Christian micro.

518
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,440
Can I bring that back?
You can bring that back.

519
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,040
Dig them, dig them.
I dig it, man.

520
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,840
I dig it, you know, because I
don't know if I.

521
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,600
Understand this language they
speak today.

522
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:55,280
This is this is kind of fun.
So Walter Coggins.

523
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,320
Walton Coggins.
Right.

524
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,920
Righteous Gemstones.
Baby Bobby.

525
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,200
Billy.
Baby Bobby, Billy.

526
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Great.
Is that what it is?

527
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,680
Is that what it is?
Baby Bobby, Billy.

528
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Baby Bobby Billy.
Yeah.

529
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,880
Baby Bobby.
Baby Bobby.

530
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,760
So.
But he was also Uncle Rico,

531
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,440
right?
But he's also Uncle Rico.

532
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Like, that's the dynamic of this
guy.

533
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720
If you didn't know that boys and
girls, the guy who plays Baby

534
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,560
Bobby Billy on Righteous
Gemstones was played Uncle Rico

535
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,720
on Napoleon Dynamite, he was.
Also a badass on Justified.

536
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,960
I can't remember that character
name.

537
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,720
And their yes, he was.
Right now, because he was a

538
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,520
great anyway, he was a great
character on Justified.

539
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840
He was on White Lotus recently,
that was good.

540
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,760
So anyway, what I'm going with
this is he maintains and manages

541
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,840
his own social media stuff.
OK, No shit.

542
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Right.
So when that, when that little

543
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,200
scene came out or I just, I need
$2,000,000 in 8 ball.

544
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Why can't you just understand
that?

545
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,120
I just need $2,000,000 in 8 ball
and then I'm, I'm off.

546
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,080
I'm off doing my thing.
Right.

547
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,280
So that dropped on something on
on Facebook and I typed in below

548
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,400
it the acronym for if you know,
you know, right, right.

549
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,080
OK.
Oh yeah, Couple days later,

550
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,720
Skyler messaged me.
Oh, Dad, Walter Coggins manages

551
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,240
his own Facebook page.
I'm like, that's cool.

552
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,720
He's like well he liked your
post so legit I went and looked.

553
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,280
That's awesome.
And and so he's he liked my post

554
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,680
and followed me, so I'm
following back.

555
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,760
You got so tight now man.
That's awesome.

556
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,960
The the really cool thing is
you're.

557
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Welcome on anytime, Walter.
Right, exactly.

558
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,480
I actually said that I had.
He hasn't responded yet.

559
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,600
And I've been getting a lot of a
lot of friends, a lot of friends

560
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,240
suggestions on Facebook that
have to do with with I think

561
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,160
it's because Mark Jeffrey,
because you know how Facebook

562
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,360
is.
Oh, for sure.

563
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,120
All the radio, TV stuff in the
valley all of a sudden is

564
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,520
suggesting to be my friend.
So a couple of them accepted it

565
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760
and I reached out to one Kim.
Kim can tell her.

566
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,000
I was like, hey, you want to be
on our show?

567
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,360
She's like, well, send me some
links.

568
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,760
I was like, OK, here's your
links.

569
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Now let me know.
She has a.

570
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,880
Link away a.
Link away.

571
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,040
So that was kind of cool, you
know, so then I, so when I was

572
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480
going with that, I went on his
page because scholar said he

573
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,840
manages it.
And I watched, I went all the

574
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,320
way down to the beginning
because he hasn't done it for

575
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,440
very long.
It's, it's kind of cool because

576
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,960
it's like there's stuff where he
gets like 10 engagements, which

577
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,240
is the likes, loves, you know,
heart emoji, whatever.

578
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,200
And then, you know, no shares
and 15 comments all the way up

579
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,240
to when he's doing this Saturday
Night Live thing that day he's

580
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,680
jumping up and down and it's
like, you know, 18,000 reactions

581
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,960
and 87 shares and like 400
comments.

582
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,160
But the dynamic of it I thought
was cool because normally

583
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,120
somebody that's at that.
Similar to ours on scale, right?

584
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,360
Right.
One's got one's got 100,000

585
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,520
views or 30, whatever it was,
and then the next one's got 12.

586
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Yeah.
It's just, it's a, it's a trip.

587
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,240
How that?
How that?

588
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,800
It's like some of your shorts go
down a black hole to never be

589
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,560
found again.
Right.

590
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,640
And not just I didn't mean
yours, I mean just like

591
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,320
everyone's in general.
But it's like.

592
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,800
The Internet sucks it up and
nobody ever sees it again.

593
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Yeah, those 12 people were
lucky.

594
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Yeah, I came across 1 today
'cause I was.

595
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,960
I wrote a blog about the HUD,
one settlement statement in the

596
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
real estate world and what it's
all about, blah, blah, blah,

597
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,600
because somebody had asked on,
on Reddit, which is where I go.

598
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,440
And, and, and I, I read, I read
comments and I like them and

599
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,960
that kind of thing.
And I, and I answer the

600
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,160
questions and stuff because I'm
real estate professional.

601
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,080
So I'm, you know, putting my
stuff out there.

602
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
So it was.
It was surprising to me that I

603
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,920
couldn't find that one video I
did in in 2022, but my other one

604
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,440
I did today wasn't long enough
to to put it up as into a blog,

605
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,200
which was stupid.
Did you say you're putting

606
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,720
yourself out there, Chris
Dunham?

607
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Do we need to have an
intervention?

608
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,920
I put myself out there all the
time, Michael.

609
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240
I think by the way I want to.
Have a guest on the show that

610
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,480
discussed that subject.
Yeah, so.

611
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320
It'll be OK.
I'm on I'm on the YouTube page

612
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440
right now.
I got to say our YouTube page.

613
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,520
If you haven't been there boys
and.

614
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Girls are YouTube page kicks
ass.

615
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Right.
It's just at Chris and Mike show

616
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720
and it's I'm looking at it
because I wanted to I wanted to

617
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,040
find something.
That thing's bad ass.

618
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,080
I.
I think what you should do is

619
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,880
write down the 1st 56 or
whatever it is followers and

620
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840
someday we'll send them some
nice gifts when we have some

621
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,360
swag and some merchandise
because they have really

622
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,600
supported our page on a level
that's about 10 to 15 to one of

623
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,840
all the other platforms can buy.
And so congratulations ladies

624
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,920
and gentlemen of the YouTube
community, you guys kick ass.

625
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,360
You do kick ass.
And one of one of our past

626
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,040
guests, Nate, Nate Palmer, the
$1,000,000 body, he, he, I sent

627
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560
him all his shorts from his
show.

628
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760
I told him, you know, start
sharing these things and he's

629
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,880
like, you know, they don't share
very well on Instagram.

630
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,600
I'm like, they do, dude.
They actually they're perfect

631
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,320
for Instagram because they're
less than a minute.

632
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,880
Actually, our Instagram reels
do, not quite as well as your

633
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,840
Facebook reels, but they do
about 5:00 to 1:00 on Facebook.

634
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,320
I know numbers, ladies and
gentlemen.

635
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,880
I, yeah, just have an obsession
with how things grow.

636
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,920
Well, and and see, and this is
where I'm going with it because,

637
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,360
OK, there is there, there you
go.

638
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,920
Because YouTube gives you
certain things.

639
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,800
So Bill Belichick praising Eli
Manning, that was a 25 second

640
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
short.
That's over 11,000 views.

641
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,240
The Maddox debate, the Maddox
rule, the rule, the Greg Maddox

642
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,600
rule.
That's 1400 views.

643
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,600
But we had that one on
Instagram.

644
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,880
That was what, 60,070 thousand?
Right.

645
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,600
So that's the, that's the
dynamic of it.

646
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,200
It's a trip.
Pete Rose was 916.

647
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,000
We obviously were right on that
because in the.

648
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960
But here's the deal.
Here's what I see.

649
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
You have shorts right now
because you release them

650
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
religiously, correct?
Some of them.

651
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360
Some of them shoot right up to
8. 100, right?

652
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Yeah.
And the next one is 15 and then

653
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,440
the next one is 900 and it'll be
56, right?

654
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,440
And then it's 1.5 K and then
it's. 2 Yeah, it's weird, man.

655
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,960
It's the weirdest thing.
I love watching it though, it

656
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,960
cracks me up.
It's like.

657
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800
Yeah, I'm I'm what is special?
About these other ones, I I

658
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,480
think I don't know but.
Yeah, 'cause I'm, I'm going

659
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000
through, just scrolling through
right now, there's like 400 plus

660
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520
is all the popular ones, all the
shorts, they're at least have

661
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240
400 views.
So I don't know if that's if

662
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040
that's YouTube's algorithm that
you got to have at least 400 for

663
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,320
it to be popular.
But I mean we have, I'm still

664
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,040
scrolling.
I mean, that's how many sorts we

665
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
have that are still.
Well, I think it's a combination

666
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,520
of a lot of things.
You've gotten better at your

667
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,120
advertising of it, even at the
grassroots level, right, Your

668
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,440
better displays, you have more
interesting content on a regular

669
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320
basis, a lot of things come into
play.

670
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
You have better hashtags,
whatever, you know.

671
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Yeah.
And right now there's a bunch of

672
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,920
young kids screaming at me going
if you would do just this, you

673
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,440
would have 10 million.
And I'm like, yeah, so send us

674
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040
an e-mail.
Yeah, as I see those things,

675
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,680
we're, we're on, we're on some
podcast platforms on, on social

676
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,160
media and I see, oh, I just got
my thing up to, you know, 60,000

677
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760
subscribers in a year.
And my comment always says, did

678
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360
you pay for that or was it
organic?

679
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,440
And guess what?
They never answered the question

680
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,120
because and they never answered
the question.

681
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
That means they paid for it.
You know that as well as I do.

682
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Oh, that's.
Stupid, we've been around the

683
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,840
block when it comes to
entertainment and being an

684
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,400
artist and how shit works.
The game may change but or the

685
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
way the game is played may
change but the game is still the

686
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,480
same right?
It is.

687
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,360
It's all about networking and
you and I, I think, are doing it

688
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,520
the right way and that we're
meeting new and interesting

689
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,040
people all the time that are
providing a message of some kind

690
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,920
of interesting.
It doesn't always have to be

691
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
positive.
I don't want to say positive

692
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,000
because the world is not always
positive, but for the most part,

693
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200
we've done a good job of
bringing some pretty uplifting

694
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,080
messages to the world and that
makes me happy, right?

695
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,080
I think people like those
stories of Alicia's story blew

696
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
me away, man.
You know that some of these just

697
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,360
keep getting better and better.
It's like you can't believe

698
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,160
there's people out there doing
that kind of work because the

699
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,800
media would have you believe
that everything's falling apart

700
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160
every day while this person's
going out putting it back

701
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400
together, right?
And and that's the fucking

702
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,120
media, man.
I just, I just don't.

703
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,600
I just can't.
I'm so tired.

704
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,080
It's fucking exhausting if you
try and make sense of it because

705
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,680
there is no sense to be made of
it.

706
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,960
It's all propaganda.
You know that as well as I do.

707
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,640
One, they just and they just
lie.

708
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,640
They just, they just lie.
Propaganda.

709
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Everything, it's just it's like,
like, yeah, like.

710
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,440
Here's an interesting thing
because I number one, I don't

711
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,480
want you to get angry and #2 I
think this is interesting.

712
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,240
I was scrolling through my
fucking rabbit hole that I go

713
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,000
down on Facebook or Instagram or
one of them, right?

714
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,520
And I fucking hate that because
sometimes I lose an hour,

715
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,440
sometimes two of my life and
that's unacceptable.

716
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,320
But this person had an
interesting theory that we've

717
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,120
discussed on this podcast before
of the Mandela Effect, Yes.

718
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,440
And this guy said, what if it's
so sinister that it's not really

719
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,320
magic?
What if they are purposely

720
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,679
changing the timeline ever so
slightly maliciously to see how

721
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:26,360
far they can go before people
will break, right?

722
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,960
How how much can we change
certain things?

723
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,320
It broke my brain for a minute.
I sat.

724
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,440
And you know when somebody makes
me stop and think because most

725
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
of the time I'm like, yeah,
you're full of shit and here's

726
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,320
why.
Because I've studied a lot of

727
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,880
things and I don't claim to be
the smartest person in the

728
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,880
world, but there's a lot of
things people tell you you're

729
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719
like, that's bullshit and here's
why.

730
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,800
And if you don't believe it,
that's fine.

731
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,760
So kind of like the Truman Show.
Remember the Truman Show, where

732
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,000
they're.
Manipulating the character,

733
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,440
we're being gasoline.
Yeah, well, we've talked about

734
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,160
that before to where are that
we're, you know, are we actually

735
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,760
living in what's known as the
matrix like did the matrix is

736
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,240
that is that?
I mean, I don't think that's

737
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,760
legit like that, but I think
that I wouldn't.

738
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,560
That's a possibility, like a
simulation.

739
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Yeah, yeah, a simulation, yeah,
yeah, which would be weird you.

740
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Know world landed long ago.
We're just like the Matrix or

741
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,840
floating in suspended animation
to be used as batteries.

742
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:28,400
So, so this, I like that.
That's that's, yeah, that's.

743
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,000
How do we know that's not?
True.

744
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,960
That's heavy, man, That's heavy.
When virtual reality takes over,

745
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,200
how do you know that's not true?
And that's common.

746
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,680
Oh, it's dude.
It's it's so it's.

747
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,240
You're already being trained by
carrying your fucking

748
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,720
smartphone, you just don't know
it.

749
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Right, did you see the video
like we went in the QT, Nick and

750
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,960
I drove to Tucson 'cause I got
the listing popping up.

751
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,840
And I liked it.
Your mom commented on it.

752
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's right.

753
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,760
So boys and girls that are in
the listening viewing audience,

754
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,880
if you're not familiar with what
I'm talking about, my wife and I

755
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000
went down to Tucson 'cause I
have a listing coming up to the

756
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,240
wholesale deal.
And there was, we went to a QT

757
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,360
because, you know, it's an hour
and a half from our house.

758
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,720
We had to pee.
And that one, I didn't know if

759
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,240
the house is going to have
utilities out or not.

760
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:08,600
So I'm like, we need to go here,
stop here.

761
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,360
Just, you know, get out, stretch
legs, you know, go to the

762
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,280
bathroom.
Sure.

763
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,360
We walk in the door and there's
this robot.

764
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Remember, for those of you that
ever watched The Jetsons, OK,

765
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,720
it's a small version of Rosie
the robot, probably 3 feet tall,

766
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,400
and it had eyes, and the eyes
could see me walking in the door

767
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,160
because it stopped.
It talked, it told me thank you

768
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,720
for coming to QT, please come
again.

769
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,120
And then later, hello, I'm a
robot, please don't mind me as I

770
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680
clean the floor and thank you
for shopping at QT.

771
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600
So let me ask you this real.
Quick, yes.

772
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,000
In 2025, when I can sit here
with the most badass computer

773
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,160
that Mac could make in 2023 to
make a more badass one in 2025.

774
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,200
But I have the best thing that
Mac made in 2023.

775
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,320
It can make voices out of
anything.

776
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Why does it still have to be the
robot voice?

777
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040
And thank you for coming to
Cutie.

778
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,200
And I, I, I think it needs to
have the cute element to it for

779
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,760
the little kids that walk in the
store.

780
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,840
To catch their attention, keep
them from getting run over or

781
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,480
whatever.
Yeah, OK, I can accept.

782
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,880
That 'cause it did it, it did it
legit stopped.

783
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Like grabbed your attention.
It stopped and then it and then

784
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,480
it turned around, 'cause I stood
in sway.

785
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,440
We have them cleaning our floors
at work so.

786
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,800
Yeah.
I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's,

787
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,760
it's coming.
It's coming.

788
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Well, I told you I read that
article, that in 2026 or 2028

789
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,800
they're going to have a fully
automated assembly line of

790
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,720
humanoid robots in South
Carolina building cars.

791
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,800
Did I tell you that?
I don't.

792
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640
I don't think you did.
And that's scary from the

793
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,680
standpoint.
Of that's a true story.

794
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,360
I believe you, but it's scary
from the standpoint that you,

795
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840
some of those things, you just,
you just you got to have the

796
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,440
human element to it.
I think you know some of the,

797
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,400
some of the nuances.
I I do I think so in building a

798
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,840
car.
I think you're right.

799
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,960
I I think there needs to be
something.

800
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Huh, I actually know you're
right on a lot of levels.

801
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Yeah, I just, that's what I'm
saying.

802
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,720
I just think you have to have.
I'll tell you on the off the air

803
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,040
why, OK.
Well, one of the reasons why I

804
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:26,440
think why is because if if like
a human, OK, so like a trained

805
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
human, like somebody who who
built cars back in the day,

806
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,520
right?
When when Detroit started

807
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,840
booming, right.
They could look at the car, they

808
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,480
could look at the body.
They they could see

809
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640
imperfections after doing their
job long enough, they could say,

810
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,680
oh, this is this is jacked.
This won't fit.

811
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,960
This is off.
This is off.

812
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
This isn't whatever, right?
Do you have that human element

813
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,840
to it?
Machines are great.

814
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Yeah, because the air and and
the flaws should drop.

815
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,160
But here's what I'll say about
the manufacturing process in

816
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,360
today's America, which I'm
pretty familiar with, right?

817
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,240
Yeah.
You are.

818
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:05,120
They're great as assistants to
help a meaningless task.

819
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Yes, that would cause repetitive
motion injuries and but there

820
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,240
still needs to be eyes on the
prize, so to speak, as the

821
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,920
project moves along.
And that doesn't just go with

822
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,520
building cars.
They still can't recreate

823
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,240
Beethoven, right?
Because AI can't.

824
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,120
AI has no imagination.
That's the one thing.

825
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Once it has imagination, we're
fucked.

826
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Right.
Because then it can think for

827
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,120
itself.
That's the that's the

828
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,120
distinctive factor between
mankind and the animal Kingdom

829
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,080
or electronics, right?
We have free will and we have an

830
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,680
imagination.
An imagination made this

831
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,600
microphone, made this computer,
made all this possible, right?

832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,240
I'm too stupid to do any of
this.

833
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,920
So I've luckily somebody had a
different imagination.

834
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,080
I can do the podcast, I can make
it work.

835
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,440
You can make it work.
But we couldn't build the

836
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,960
microphone, the computer, the
mouse, the interface that we

837
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,520
use.
You know, people don't think

838
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,360
about that shit.
That all came from a human

839
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,040
brain.
It didn't come from a

840
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,120
rhinoceros.
It didn't come from a giraffe.

841
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,960
No.
And it didn't come from a

842
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,640
computer yet.
That's the scary part, because

843
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,160
the keyword is.
Yet I've seen a lot of say I

844
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640
shit, I've played with the
Oculus Rift and all that kind of

845
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,720
stuff.
What's the Oculus that explain?

846
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,120
I don't know what that is.
So the Oculus is a virtual

847
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,000
reality headset.
OK.

848
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,000
Where you can play games in a
virtual reality space, so you're

849
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,960
in your own living room, but
when you put that on, you have

850
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,800
to be very aware of your
surroundings because you are now

851
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,280
in a three-dimensional
environment that is no longer

852
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,880
your living room.
It's a lot like tripping on

853
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,400
acid.
Gotcha.

854
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,840
You know the world in front of
you disappears and another world

855
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,320
appears that is either in your
mind or it's really there.

856
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,080
You just don't see it all the
time, right?

857
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Virtual reality is a lot like
that, and it's fucking weird

858
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,240
until you get used to it.
If you have any kind of motion

859
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,080
sensitivity, I don't recommend
it at all.

860
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:11,160
OK, freak you the fuck out.
But if you don't, it's man, it's

861
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,760
cool.
There was a game called Beat

862
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Saber on there where you just
basically had a lightsaber and

863
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,040
you played your favorite songs
and these objects came at you

864
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,680
and you're hitting them with
lightsabers.

865
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,560
And that's how you scored your
points, right?

866
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,360
And you could play that against
Carrie and I planted together.

867
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,040
That's where I, she had one of
those.

868
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,160
It was awesome.
So that's the world we're coming

869
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,840
to.
There's going to be a point

870
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,040
where I feel like you're going
to be able to choose between

871
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,480
that world and whatever's left
of this world, right?

872
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,960
If we don't shape things up,
this world could come in.

873
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:51,560
We could either be whatever,
nuclear winter, no resources.

874
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,800
What if there's a company that
comes along that says, hey, if

875
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,080
you just want to slip into this
world, we'll pay you X amount of

876
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,160
dollars to be a participant,
right?

877
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,040
And now there's a million, 2
million people living in virtual

878
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,280
reality, and that's their new
environment.

879
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360
That would be a trip, man.
And then you just, you're just

880
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,400
sitting there in a, in a.
You're in suspense animation,

881
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,640
basically.
Yeah, like the Matrix when he

882
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,240
wakes up.
In the but now you can be

883
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:19,960
married.
Called.

884
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,280
Cindy Crawford, you know, and
then her when a woman of your

885
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
dreams or.
Well, it's that I I I can't

886
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,400
imagine being married to anybody
else but Nikki, as cheesy as

887
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,280
that sounds, even.
No, in your position, I'm in a

888
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,800
different position.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

889
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,440
This is true.
You can have Cindy Crawford.

890
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,520
I'll, I'll still, I'll still
have Nikki 'cause you know, oh.

891
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,240
It's going to be Jennifer
Aniston for me.

892
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Aged.
I think she got better with age.

893
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,320
Well, you know, plastic surgery
and and and nipa.

894
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Tucks, hers is really good.
It is, well, because she's

895
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,840
smart, man.
She didn't do it stupidly, you

896
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,440
know, and I think some of it
probably is from good living,

897
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,560
like a lot of how people age.
It's it, it ties directly with

898
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,240
their life and their lifestyle
and their stress levels And, and

899
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
you know, like I have one of the
world's most stressful jobs.

900
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,920
You have one of the highest
suicide rates.

901
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Too.
I do.

902
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,760
Oh yeah.
My fucking job is just, you

903
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
know.
A lot of people don't know that

904
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,400
that that came as a shock to me.
I think you're the one that told

905
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,960
me that.
Yeah, yeah, I, I've legit, I

906
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,800
told you before, it's worth
repeating.

907
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000
I sold a house.
I sold three houses to a family.

908
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,760
The father-in-law was so
emotionally attached to their,

909
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,640
their their house.
He raised the kids and, you

910
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,960
know, forever and ever,
rightfully so.

911
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,640
So that was a struggle.
And then they bought a new one

912
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,440
right across the street from
from the people that that the

913
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,000
kids of, of the father-in-law,
right.

914
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,360
I grew up with them.
But when all is said and done,

915
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,920
representing all three of them,
he had Tony had pulled me aside

916
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,440
one day.
And he's like, you know, I, you

917
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,720
know, I thought my job was
stressful.

918
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,280
And just so you understand, boys
and girls, this was a former

919
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,600
hostage negotiator with the
Maricopa County deputies.

920
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:02,400
Holy craps, right?
And has spent, even though he's

921
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,440
retired now, he's spent probably
the last 15 years doing cold

922
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,320
case remains.
And what I mean by that, he

923
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,000
feels that every, every box of
bones deserves to have a name

924
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,480
attached to it.
So that's his, that's his gig.

925
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,040
And that's what he does after
retired.

926
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,480
He still fights to find those
names of those of those remains.

927
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,920
But yeah, he said that he would
not wish my job on anyone.

928
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,000
I agree straight up.
And he straight up was a hostage

929
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,840
negotiator for decades.
And here's.

930
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,600
Why?
That's fascinating.

931
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,080
It is way way more fast like.
Like I wish I could get him to

932
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,040
put that in writing because I
need it in writing.

933
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,760
It's way more fascinating than
what my opinion would be worth

934
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,120
because that guy was under way
more stress than I've ever been

935
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,440
in other than trying to stay
alive at one point.

936
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,360
So I guess I can relate at some
level.

937
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,720
But it's, you know, all the
things that you say that you've

938
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,240
learned along the way as we've
done this podcast.

939
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,040
And one thing I've learned from
you is I would not want to do

940
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:09,920
your job just for the simple
fact I'm a pretty good self

941
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,640
starter and self motivator.
But I don't know if I could

942
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,240
continue it at that level doing
that job.

943
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,720
You know what I'm?
Saying it's, it's, yeah, I do.

944
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,560
It's it's very, it's very.
You have to have a passion for

945
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,960
it for sure, what you do.
Yeah, you do.

946
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,800
And and the other thing too with
it, it's a fucking microphone.

947
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,840
I can't get this day wearing
today.

948
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,840
The other thing too with it as
well is that I'm documenting my

949
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:42,680
day-to-day that you wake up
every day, and I've said this

950
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,880
before, unemployed and what I do
today affects me 45 days from

951
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,800
now.
And so when you're constantly

952
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,520
grinding, trying to, to drum up
business and, and I've, I've

953
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960
drummed up plenty of business
the last couple months, but they

954
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,680
all hit the wall for some
reason, right?

955
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000
This buyer couldn't do because
that this one's on hold because

956
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,320
this this one can't go because
of this, that one needs to do

957
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160
that.
So it's, you know, it's one of

958
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,200
those weird conundrums where
I've had enough flowing of

959
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,080
potential deals, but they all
just stopped on a dime because,

960
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,960
you know, this didn't work or
that didn't work or they got to

961
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,560
save more money and they got to
pay this that off or they didn't

962
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,400
realize by doing this, by the
way, when you want to

963
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,920
consolidate your credit cards,
you think you're doing it right

964
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,960
by doing a credit consolidation
loan, you just essentially file

965
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,000
bankruptcy.
So don't do that.

966
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,040
You know what I'm talking about
credit consolidation.

967
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,120
You see those ads and stuff,
boys and girls online, you can

968
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,960
consolidate your credit cards.
You know, if you have over

969
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,480
$20,000 credit card debt, we'll
no, because it is it's it's you

970
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,840
just you just filed bankruptcy.
It's the same approach because.

971
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,480
The one thing that you and I
have in common when it comes to

972
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,440
credit is I have been on both
sides of the fence where I

973
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,080
knowingly and willingly ruined
my credit and knew how to

974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,080
manipulate the system to get
what I needed and what I wanted

975
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,480
on a level that's probably
unprecedented other than like

976
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,760
fucking New York Stock Exchange
white collar crime.

977
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,360
You know, I knew what I was
doing for sure.

978
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,320
I ran up a lot of credit cards
and never paid them off because

979
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,160
they will not put you in jail.
No, they won't.

980
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,880
But they will ruin your fucking
life forever when it comes to

981
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,080
you can't buy a car and you
can't buy a house.

982
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,080
And Chris worked miracles
helping me understand what

983
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,000
credit meant the first time I
bought a house.

984
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:38,000
So, you know, I think you put it
testimonial for me, which you

985
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,200
can do anytime on the Internet
the other day that said I will

986
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,360
testify what he will go to as a,
you know, the lengths he will go

987
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,560
to as a realtor.
There were No2 less opportune

988
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,280
clients than Carrie and I at the
time because she basically had

989
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480
no credit and mine was in the
toilet.

990
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,640
So I learned a lot from you just
getting started there.

991
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,920
And then, you know, my life fell
apart after that.

992
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,920
My credit rating fell apart
after that.

993
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,040
So I had to rebuild from not
applicable when I moved back

994
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,880
here in 2009 to I'm sitting here
talking to you.

995
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,760
I just got it from Discover Card
the other day.

996
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,200
It's 825.
So wow, I figured shit out.

997
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Holy smokes man, I know what I'm
doing when it comes to repairing

998
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,240
your credit so.
That's better than mine.

999
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Well, it's better than a lot of
people's just for the simple

1000
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,000
fact you're carrying more debt
than I am, like revolving debt

1001
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,240
and blah, blah, blah.
You know, your situation is

1002
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:38,520
different than mine.
But sure, I have a better credit

1003
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,560
score than the guy that taught
me how to get there, which is

1004
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,280
Clark Howard.
His is like 770-5780 averages

1005
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,040
all the time because he carries
a lot of debt.

1006
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,200
You know, he's a landlord and
blah, blah, blah, whatever.

1007
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,480
But yeah, I figured shit out.
So when you tell people that, I

1008
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,240
want them to know his message is
100% true.

1009
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,000
You have to do all the things
that he lists and the podcast

1010
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,040
that he's releasing right now on
his YouTube page, right?

1011
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,800
I learned that.
I learned that from this.

1012
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,160
I was like, hey, why you don't
want to do a little side project

1013
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,720
and and that I think that.
They're valuable, man.

1014
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Thank you and I haven't looked
at my numbers on it.

1015
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,440
I just when I went in to upload
a couple today I was like holy

1016
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,160
smokes I got 100 more followers
in a week.

1017
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,400
Well, I'll drop that shit on our
page too.

1018
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,680
You know it's legit if you not,
even if you're looking for a

1019
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,600
house in Arizona.
I mean, that kind of stuff is

1020
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,200
valuable to people.
I didn't know until I knew.

1021
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,160
One of my favorite sayings in
life is you don't know what you

1022
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,600
know.
You don't know what you don't

1023
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
know till you know it, right?
I almost forgot my own saying.

1024
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
You people say this is a stupid
question.

1025
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,640
I'm like there are no.
There's never no thank you.

1026
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,840
I have this.
Only stupid question is the one

1027
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040
you don't ask.
So you don't know what you don't

1028
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,400
know till you know it.
That's one of my favorite

1029
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,000
sayings.
And if you know it, then you

1030
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,880
know it, and you always know it.
Then you can share that

1031
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,240
knowledge with somebody else who
doesn't know it.

1032
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,120
Then you just took something
they didn't know and made them

1033
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,960
know it.
Because you know it.

1034
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,600
Because you knew it from the
time you knew it, and learned it

1035
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,200
from knowing it.
Now tell me what you said

1036
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,000
before.
Listen to your sin every time.

1037
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,320
I was trying to think of it the
other night.

1038
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,600
OK, tomorrow doesn't understand,
yesterday will never be again,

1039
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,160
so take a moment and listen to
your sin.

1040
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,440
I fucking love that.
I was dead and I couldn't think

1041
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,440
of it.
I was sitting there and I'm

1042
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,640
racking my brain.
I I had part of it, but I I

1043
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,280
could.
So, so that right there is 100%

1044
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,560
I should turn this.
That's 100% Jeff Tate influence

1045
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,280
because Jeff Tate to me.
Jeff Tate is the lead singer of

1046
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,280
a band called Queens Reich
Ladies and Gentlemen If.

1047
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,960
You don't know.
So I was always I I loved the

1048
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,520
Queens Reich.
I loved scorpions, right?

1049
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,320
You know, we've kind of right.
So back when Nemesis was, was

1050
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,960
was just beginning, you know,
when I joined this desperate

1051
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,880
Angel, my, my big things I was
watching at the time was Ozzy

1052
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,280
Osbourne's Live and Loud because
he was going on his final tour.

1053
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,960
And tours tour.
My cousin got me into it.

1054
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,800
Right and Queens Reich was was
breaking under the scene at a

1055
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,560
grander scale than Operation
Mind Crime.

1056
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,680
They released building empire
they built, they released

1057
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,080
empires or empire which was a
whole more commercially

1058
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,000
successful not.
Yes.

1059
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,240
For sure not.
Not really a whole concept album

1060
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,680
like Operation was.
Even though it was, it didn't

1061
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560
have.
Just not to the level.

1062
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:29,200
Yes, right, but so the live when
they went on tour for for

1063
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,640
building empires tour they call
it, they would do an hour of

1064
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,400
operation mind crime and then
they would play the empire album

1065
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,120
in its entirety.
That's.

1066
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,600
Awesome.
Right, so then.

1067
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,240
So you got to see part of the
tour.

1068
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,440
I did.
And then because I didn't see

1069
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,480
the Building Empires tour, I saw
the Operation Mind Crime tour.

1070
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,680
I ended up seeing that a couple
more times on the anniversary

1071
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,720
dates they did at the celebrity
theater here in Phoenix.

1072
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,840
They did.
They did the Operation Line

1073
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,160
crime in its entirety.
At the time I took my brother, I

1074
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,440
was done drinking.
He was still a slosh.

1075
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,040
We were legit as close as I am
to my screen to Jeff Tate the

1076
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,880
whole show because there he was
and my brother wouldn't leave

1077
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,920
him alone.
So Jeff Tate literally ended up

1078
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,640
moving over by Eddie for the
bulk of the show and stayed on

1079
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,360
that side of the catwalk because
had a catwalk runway that would

1080
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,560
go.
Back I saw Ted Nugent.

1081
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,200
There was Scott.
Right on.

1082
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,440
So Tate would run off the stage
and then come back and.

1083
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Yeah, Yeah.
So I mean, here he was.

1084
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,720
And then he just wouldn't leave
him alone.

1085
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,840
Just.
And my brother's like, you know,

1086
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:35,560
6-2, you know, I want to say 200
lbs, but he's.

1087
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,720
It's muscle.
It's built 200 lbs.

1088
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,840
And when he's drunk, it's.
And you have somebody down in

1089
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,040
the front row.
Yeah.

1090
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,640
You know, every time Jeff Tate
came by and I started watching

1091
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Def Tate's eyes, like.
You know what that's like when

1092
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,200
somebody's a little fucking
crazy 2 feet from you?

1093
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,400
It's like, bye, Jeff, see you,
see you over there.

1094
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,360
OK, so that was kind of a drag.
But yeah, so anyway, when I was

1095
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,160
going with that story, squirrel,
squirrel, squirrel.

1096
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,960
And when they film, when they
recorded, when they recorded the

1097
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:13,400
mind crime, the live part of it,
they wrapped up a song in an

1098
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Operation Mind Crime set list.
And as his music was winding

1099
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
down, he's like, I got a
question here.

1100
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880
I want to know, is there anybody
here tonight in Madison, WI that

1101
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:31,120
believes in love?
And then and then Degarmo and

1102
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,120
he's like, I don't and turns
around.

1103
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560
I'm like, fuck, like I got
chills as a kid watching that

1104
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,280
was a kid.
But like, you know, like as I

1105
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,440
said it.
I can still.

1106
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,080
I can still see it.
So I still got a little bit of

1107
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,880
the chills because because
that's just, that was just, that

1108
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,200
was fucking cool, man.
And so, so those are the little

1109
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,360
things, the little nuances that
I would pick up.

1110
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,720
So imagine this.
Yeah, I'm 16 years old.

1111
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,080
I see them for the first time do
their entire Operation Minecraft

1112
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,480
album before Metallica plays
their And Justice for All set

1113
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,920
list.
And I was in the front row for

1114
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,560
the And Justice for All set list
because that was back in the

1115
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,040
days when they still had general
admission.

1116
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,080
People hadn't gotten smart yet.
Metallica concerts can get a

1117
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,640
little rowdy if he didn't know.
So as soon as Queens Reich was

1118
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,840
done and the lights went down
and they started playing that

1119
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:32,040
opening little, I think it's a
French horn on blackened chairs

1120
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,000
started flying.
And my buddy looked at oh fuck

1121
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,720
yeah.
It got open quick, dude.

1122
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,080
People were trying to get to the
front, so we saw a path and if

1123
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,000
we hadn't gone at that second,
he's like, we got to go now.

1124
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,040
We ended up right up against the
gate.

1125
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,560
James was sweating on us, just
like Jeff should have been for

1126
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,760
you if you hadn't been in an
unfortunate position.

1127
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,320
He.
He he was for a while.

1128
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,360
You know, do you know how much
that changed my fucking life?

1129
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,640
To be like this was before they
put you 16 feet from the band?

1130
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,520
This guy was sweating on us.
He was literally 5 feet from us.

1131
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,400
That changed my life, man.
I was like, I want to do that.

1132
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,000
You know what?
That's a job.

1133
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Yeah, this guy's making a
living.

1134
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,240
Yeah, yeah.
Fucking.

1135
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:20,800
Incredible, man.
That would be cool.

1136
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,800
That would be cool.
And that's the thing that people

1137
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,600
don't understand now.
And that's, I'm glad you pointed

1138
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,120
out because really, there's a
barrier now.

1139
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,920
And it's because idiots would
jump on stage.

1140
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,920
That's why you don't have nice
things, because people don't

1141
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
respect the fact that that,
yeah, yes, James Hetfield's a

1142
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,400
rock God.
He's an icon.

1143
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,800
He's he's he's, you know,
changed the evolution of heavy

1144
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,320
metal and then some.
But he's still a freaking human

1145
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,400
being.
He can still be freaked out.

1146
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,720
He can still be spooked if if
you're jumping on stage and or

1147
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,920
screaming top your lungs, just
like Jeff Tate was with my

1148
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,600
breast.
In peace.

1149
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,960
Poor fucking Darrell got shot
while he was doing what he

1150
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,760
loved, right?
Entertaining his fans?

1151
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,200
Yeah, jumping on stage and
fucking murdered him.

1152
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,680
From prime example, absolutely
prime example.

1153
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,600
That's why there's barriers,
that's why there's one.

1154
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,920
Of the most peaceful human
beings in the earth that played

1155
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,360
some of the heaviest music on
the planet, right.

1156
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,440
Nobody ever said a bad thing
about Darrell.

1157
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,240
They were like holy shit what a
amazing human being.

1158
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Went and did guitar clinics for
kids and just wanted a jam, man.

1159
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,320
One of your famous quotes that I
always tell people that I always

1160
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,880
loved about you is you would say
all the time.

1161
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,120
I don't know, dude.
It's just like if we'd start to

1162
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,480
even get close to being in an
argument, like I just want to

1163
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,200
jam, man.
Let's just fucking jam, dude.

1164
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,840
Come on, let's let's go crank it
up.

1165
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,880
Let's get loud.
Yeah, because everything's

1166
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,000
better when you jam, man.
Absolutely.

1167
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Everything that's better, you
get, you get all the emotion

1168
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,880
out, you get whatever's in your
head out, you just, you just

1169
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,560
lose yourself in the music.
You kind of transcend into the

1170
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,160
moment of whatever you're doing
because you got to be focused.

1171
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,840
You got.
To but it brought us all back

1172
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,320
into a circle, right?
Everybody always got to chuckle

1173
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,480
out of that.
You just be like, I don't know

1174
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,200
man, whatever dude.
Let's let's just jam.

1175
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Let's look at jam.
Let's jam.

1176
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,760
We can worry about that later.
Let's play something we know

1177
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,920
right now, right?
Just jam.

1178
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,640
And then, and then you all just,
you all just knew and shut up on

1179
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,960
our fucking play then.
Fuck you, Chris.

1180
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,760
Because you can't argue with
logic.

1181
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,640
We, we were all there to do
that.

1182
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,800
It's like, fuck, he's right, you
know?

1183
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880
And then five songs later,
nobody's mad.

1184
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,720
No, because you forgot why
you're mad.

1185
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,640
Because it was that stupid and
petty.

1186
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560
And it wasn't stupid and petty,
but it just, it was relevant at

1187
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,760
the time and it was always
something music related, right?

1188
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,320
It was, you know, lyrically or
you know, bridge here, bridge

1189
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,960
there, fill this gap, put the
fill in here.

1190
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,200
I don't want to make it sound
like that.

1191
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,400
And you know, Scott used to out
ride me because I would say I

1192
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,680
would say phrases too many
times.

1193
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,960
I remember that one song.
I don't know why.

1194
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,280
He's like, dude, you say I don't
know why too many times, but it

1195
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,400
calls for it.
Scott.

1196
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,280
It doesn't.
Carrie, Carrie, what do you

1197
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,360
think?
Leave me out of it.

1198
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,160
She was a good producer.
Like, leave me out of it, you

1199
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,400
know?
And then it's every time, dude,

1200
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,840
she's like, dude, you do sing
that way too many times.

1201
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,760
I'm like, but it calls for it.
I'm filling the space.

1202
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,000
Trust me, on stage, you'll see
it because it's an energy thing.

1203
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,360
I'm building it up.
That was a song about how I went

1204
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,920
and pissed off Rodger Klein.
I love that song.

1205
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,520
Which is now the Peacemakers.
But that's the whole.

1206
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,080
That's what that song was about.
Because.

1207
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520
I was actually proud of that
moment because that was so

1208
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,400
different for us.
That song was not like anything

1209
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,200
else we ever wrote.
It was like it was very.

1210
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Remember, the beat was very on.
The only best way I can describe

1211
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,120
it is Scott was like not on top
of the beat.

1212
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,920
He was almost like over the top
of the beat.

1213
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,160
It was very driving in a way
that.

1214
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,720
It was.
It was, yeah.

1215
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,360
You know what I'm saying?
But it was because the way the

1216
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,880
melody and the way I sang it, I,
we built it up because legit I

1217
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,200
was, it was AI told a story.
So much fun to play.

1218
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,640
Yeah.
It just was, yeah.

1219
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,080
It was a journey.
It was a journey melodically and

1220
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,600
vocally.
And then the way you guys built

1221
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,200
the music around it, it just
kind of just it build up, build

1222
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,000
up and then it was.
Kind of.

1223
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,480
Then it dropped down to nothing.
Yes, remember.

1224
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,560
Yes, because that's and it
would.

1225
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,800
Build itself back up from there
because I fucking like that

1226
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,960
song, dude.
I love playing it live.

1227
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,440
I think we only got to play it
live a handful of times.

1228
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,680
Yeah, that was a good song
though.

1229
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Hey, if if you don't remember,
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1230
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,400
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1231
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,880
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1232
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,640
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1233
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,640
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1234
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,960
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1235
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,720
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1236
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,040
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1237
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,080
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1238
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,600
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1239
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,680
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1240
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,480
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1241
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,440
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1242
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,000
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1243
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,800
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1244
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,400
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1245
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,360
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1246
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,520
Review.
Go ahead, tell me why I suck.

1247
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,680
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Don't tell Chris why he sucks.

1248
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,920
He's emotional today.
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1249
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,840
YouTube because again, it helps
us grow organically and we're

1250
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,800
trying to do this organically.
We don't want to pay.

1251
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,320
We don't want to pay for
licensed subscribers because

1252
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Mike and I both just think
that's wrong.

1253
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,080
Like we were in the music
industry where you built

1254
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,280
everything by word of mouth.
We had to beat the streets and

1255
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,320
Flyer and go to ASU and hand it
out to beautiful women.

1256
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,280
It was horrible.
I'd hate it every second of it.

1257
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,920
It was.
Grueling.

1258
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,040
Terrible.
In Arizona heat, I handed out

1259
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,320
those Flyers to every beautiful
woman woman I saw.

1260
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,160
That's.
Why you're so skinny.

1261
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,360
Let's say you didn't.
You didn't.

1262
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,720
You lost all the weight because
you're walking around when

1263
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,360
there's 100° outside when you're
long haired and you know the

1264
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760
rock'n'roll.
That was one of the best ideas

1265
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,960
we ever had, though.
I'm like, why are we going to

1266
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,360
all these places?
Let's just go where the chicks

1267
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,040
are, right?
Yep, and there you go.

1268
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,160
We should have what we should
have did.

1269
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,600
We should have went to strip
clubs because some of our A.

1270
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Couple I did a lot of that, but
I don't think I flyered there.

1271
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,520
A couple of our songs would have
definitely worked very well for

1272
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,000
the stripping, stripping world.
Oh no.

1273
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,560
Question.
I'm not going to lie.

1274
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,920
So, you know, there's that for
sure.

1275
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160
So you sent me something and I
liked it.

1276
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,600
I knew you would.
So I'm going to.

1277
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,440
I got another one too, but I
thought you ought to read that

1278
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,040
one because I got a funny one
after that.

1279
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,320
So here a funny thought.
So here are the uncomfortable

1280
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,440
truths that that everybody needs
to hear.

1281
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280
OK, and this is a trip because
this really is eye opening.

1282
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,080
Made me think.
The average lifespan is 76 years

1283
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,200
in Is it?
Is this just America because I

1284
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,760
know in in in like overseas
Asian?

1285
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,720
Country, I think that's average
overall, like worldwide.

1286
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,400
So, so Norm George went, lived
two years past the average

1287
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,240
lifespan.
Not bad for somebody who was as

1288
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,320
large as he was And agree and,
and, and we don't know if he's

1289
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,640
healthy or not, but from a, from
a visual standpoint, very

1290
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,720
unhealthy human.
But you know, to each his own.

1291
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Middle age is not 50, it's 38.
So when you're having a midlife

1292
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,200
crisis, boys and girls, you're
38, not 50.

1293
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,680
That's about where I was.
Yeah, not 50.

1294
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,240
The days are long, but the years
are shorter than you think.

1295
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Isn't that true?
We just talked about his time

1296
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,520
going faster.
Yeah, I don't know if it's

1297
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,720
necessarily going faster, but
like, OK, so here's here's a

1298
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,680
good way to explain this.
So little man 5 1/2, right?

1299
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,200
Like just yesterday he was 1.
So that's a trip, right?

1300
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,120
And and he does these little
things every now and then.

1301
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,720
We're all.
I know where you're going with

1302
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,240
this, yeah.
Yeah, so.

1303
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,400
But pull up.
OK, OK.

1304
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,800
How do you explain me?
Because I blinked in 10 years

1305
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,520
went by, right?
I don't have AI, don't have kids

1306
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,200
to compare it to if they're not
married.

1307
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,480
So and then they find out that
the universe is expanding faster

1308
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,640
than they had anticipated.
I'm like, does that mean time's

1309
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,440
going faster?
We don't know if time is really

1310
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,960
linear, right?
We don't.

1311
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,960
We don't.
We don't.

1312
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,440
And I and I, yeah, it feels like
it's going faster from from a

1313
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,560
calendar standpoint.
Nothing's changed.

1314
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,840
Like we haven't changed our
calendar at all.

1315
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,040
Right.
I can guarantee you if Carrie's

1316
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,360
listening to this, she's
screaming because one of my

1317
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,880
running and jokes the whole time
she's known me is days, 24

1318
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,600
hours.
It goes the same all the time,

1319
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:22,960
right?
Like some people say, Dave

1320
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,480
dragging on man.
It's just.

1321
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,000
Really, really going slow.
It's like, no, it's going the

1322
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,280
same speed.
It goes every day.

1323
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,880
So I know where you're coming
from because I've argued that

1324
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,960
for years.
But Jesus, man, to me it just

1325
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,440
feels like maybe we have way
we're being inundated with

1326
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,280
information we didn't have
before, right?

1327
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,560
It's possible.
Used to end your day, you ate a

1328
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,800
baked potato and a hamburger and
some French fries or whatever,

1329
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,000
right?
And then you watch the Evening

1330
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,960
News and then you talk to your
wife or your kids and then you

1331
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,000
went to bed.
Now you have emails and social

1332
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,600
media and computers and podcasts
and you know.

1333
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Oh yeah.
Does that make time go faster?

1334
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,560
Because your attention is always
being consumed by something,

1335
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,640
right?
Right.

1336
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:16,200
Yeah, if something doesn't feel
right, don't settle for it.

1337
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:23,400
I agree with that one in Spain.
Oh yeah, yeah, don't stay in

1338
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,520
places that drain you.
That's another one that I've

1339
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,080
done, everybody's done, but.
Somebody's done that.

1340
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,080
Way too much.
I know somebody right now who

1341
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,840
has been lingering in the past
for close to a decade just can't

1342
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,880
let it go.
It's that.

1343
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,360
That's scary.
Super sad don't.

1344
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Yeah, don't waste your time.
Yeah, you get that.

1345
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,040
Don't waste your time.
And that's what irritates me

1346
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,080
when we have guests that we're
supposed to be on our shows.

1347
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,600
We've had two now that that have
cancelled the day.

1348
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,360
It's going to happen, you know
that.

1349
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,040
And I and I understand that
completely, but they're, they're

1350
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,840
luckily you and I are
professionals and we can just go

1351
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,000
on the fly.
But I will tell you and Chris's

1352
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,400
defense, whatever, you know, he
handles a lot of the booking and

1353
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,040
all that kind of stuff.
Whatever you guys are talking

1354
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,240
about behind the scenes.
Here's what I'm going to say as

1355
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,880
his Co host and the person that
asked him to do this in the 1st

1356
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,560
place.
If we had cancelled a gig at

1357
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,880
some of the best places we ever
played at right before we were

1358
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,000
going to play at it, we would
have never got asked back there

1359
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,640
again because there were no
other options right at that

1360
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:35,080
level.
So not that, you know, we don't

1361
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,320
have millions of downloads, but
we're in 18 countries and we

1362
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,440
have enough listenership and you
guys all kick ass and we

1363
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,520
appreciate you listening and
we're trying to bring you good

1364
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,920
content.
So to the people that bailed,

1365
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,000
that's what you bailed on, you
know?

1366
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,520
Right.
And that's one of the reasons

1367
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,080
why we don't, we don't, we don't
do our show live because we want

1368
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,440
to be able to have those guests
on and talk to them and edit the

1369
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,520
clips and things like that.
So then before they come on, one

1370
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,840
of our new trends is I'm going
to let people know, oh, this

1371
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,480
such and such person starts, you
know, it's going to matter show,

1372
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,080
you know, check it out because
then you know who's coming on.

1373
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,520
Yeah, but the actual podcast is
live.

1374
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,040
Oh yeah, we're live right now.
Absolutely, yeah.

1375
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,040
I'm just saying I don't edit the
actual podcast very much.

1376
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,760
No, we added, we added into
shorts and we add a little bit,

1377
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,680
a little bit of, you know, touch
up here and there.

1378
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,880
But everything else is, is what
you see is what you get.

1379
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,240
We're real raw and we're
relevant.

1380
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Yes, I take pride in that, man.
This is just a conversation.

1381
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,680
We're we're having a rap session
here or whatever happened, man,

1382
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,320
whatever the cool kids call it.
Now we're talking about the

1383
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,840
cheese.
We're talking about the cheese

1384
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,680
and the and the and the queso,
you know?

1385
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,160
Chris is one of the cool cats.
The cheese Mike's the cool cat.

1386
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,520
I'm just along for the ride,
people.

1387
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,280
So eventually the only thing you
would regret is not doing more

1388
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,960
of what you love.
Get that.

1389
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,600
The only thing you're going to
regret is not doing more of what

1390
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,120
you love.
Which is why I try to have sex

1391
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,160
with my wife every single day.
That's how she.

1392
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,600
Wants to or not?
Stellar.

1393
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,120
I was just getting ready to say
that's a stellar mission.

1394
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:08,480
That is not a stellar mission.
It's, it's, it's, it's always a

1395
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,760
stellar mission, man.
You know, It's, you know, it's

1396
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,680
like I'm a fight.
I'm a hunting rabbit season.

1397
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,560
I'm hunting rabbit.
We're men, that's what we do.

1398
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,120
We are men.
Was that the last one?

1399
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,360
Do we not pee standing up?
That was.

1400
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,080
That was the last.
One, this is going to make you

1401
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,360
laugh your ass off because if
anything was ever made for Chris

1402
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,320
Dunham, it's this right here.
And I know you're going to adopt

1403
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,600
this into your life, which is
why I saved it.

1404
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,240
OK, Right.
On.

1405
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,080
Right on.
You can say have a nice day and

1406
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:45,040
no one thinks twice, but you
cannot say enjoy the next 24

1407
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,800
hours and not sound like you're
threatening someone.

1408
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,440
Oh, I love that.
I knew you would.

1409
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,120
I totally saved that for.
You.

1410
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,000
That's brilliant, man.
Because somewhere along the way,

1411
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,920
you're going to work that into
your life and you're going to

1412
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,000
catch somebody by surprise.
And I know you're going to go,

1413
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,120
hey, enjoy the next 24 hours and
you're going to move on about

1414
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,560
your day.
And that motherfucker is going

1415
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,560
to go.
What did he just say?

1416
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,800
Because I know you.
I've.

1417
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400
Never heard anybody say that it
was in a meme.

1418
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,560
I like that man.
Like I didn't say have a nice

1419
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,720
day all you want and no one
thinks twice, but you cannot say

1420
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,040
enjoy the next 24 hours.
Of your do you say of your life

1421
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,479
or?
Just Nope, you just say enjoy

1422
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,000
the next 24 hours, OK?
Enjoy the next 24 hours.

1423
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,640
Wait, hold on, maybe it did say
of your life.

1424
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,960
Nope, that's it.
Enjoy the next 24 hours and not

1425
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,560
sound like you're threatening
someone.

1426
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,800
OK.
Enjoy the next 24 hours, ladies

1427
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,359
and gentlemen.
Yeah, so, so totally off topic,

1428
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,800
have you seen that that Jordan
has signed with NBC Michael Ji?

1429
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,279
Did not.
So he's going to provide

1430
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,880
commentary pre taped before or
during and after select games

1431
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,880
throughout the season.
He's not going to be there from

1432
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,279
when I'm when I gathered and
reading what I read.

1433
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:10,080
So these are pre taped.
It'll be relevant to it'll be

1434
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,040
relevant.
OK, so like before the game

1435
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,600
starts, whoever is there,
wherever he's at, they're going

1436
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,319
to have technology, they'll
shoot a clip, whatever he's

1437
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:20,720
going to do, 2-3 minutes break.
Kind of like we're doing right

1438
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,479
now, right?
You can record anybody,

1439
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,040
anywhere, at any time, for any
reason.

1440
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,560
Right.
I'm just, you know, have to

1441
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,479
shatter your bubbles, people.
But every, everything, every

1442
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,240
single late night television
show is recorded in the

1443
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,800
afternoon and aired later that
day.

1444
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,399
Sometimes.
None of them are live.

1445
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,520
None of them are live like when
I was on iHeartRadio.

1446
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,279
Remember that Seinfeld episode?
What do you mean they record

1447
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Carson or whatever it was, it
was?

1448
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:45,760
Carson.
It was Carson.

1449
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,080
Was it Carson at the time?
Yeah.

1450
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,279
What do you mean?
They record Carson at 11 AM?

1451
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,880
It doesn't come on till 10 at
night.

1452
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,120
Right.
Yeah, yeah, no.

1453
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,760
When I when I was on radio, we
recorded Tuesday morning at 10

1454
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,640
AM.
My show is aired Saturday and

1455
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,880
Sunday mornings, so you know.
We'll throw ourselves under the

1456
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,400
bus.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is

1457
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:08,320
Tuesday evening at 418 Pacific
Standard Time, 6:18 Central

1458
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,680
Standard Time, and you won't see
this until probably a Sunday or

1459
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,680
well, for surely a Sunday or a
Wednesday.

1460
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,400
Yeah.
Because Who's Who drops What

1461
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,640
drops tomorrow?
Is that?

1462
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,480
Is that OK?
Yeah.

1463
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,760
So tomorrow.
Yeah.

1464
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,680
So I I'll make a thing for that.
But yeah.

1465
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,480
So where was I going with that?
I was going somewhere.

1466
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,400
Squirrel.
Squirrel.

1467
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,080
You were talking about recording
a radio on on Tuesdays.

1468
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,920
I know, but there was a reason I
I brought that up.

1469
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:45,080
I don't know if I can remember
now something.

1470
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,440
About not being live.
Oh, dude, there was I, I totally

1471
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:50,280
wanted to.
Oh yeah, the Jordan thing, The

1472
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Jordan thing.
So yeah, there you go.

1473
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,520
So from what I read from
understand, he'll, he'll do his

1474
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,480
little pregame, you know, and
then he'll watch the first half

1475
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:02,280
of the game right from his
Learjet or his yacht or

1476
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,760
whatever.
Batman Bunker.

1477
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,400
Right.
And then he'll he'll have his

1478
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,480
halftime breakdown, OK,
whatever.

1479
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:12,400
And then he'll wrap up the the
game at the end.

1480
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,520
It's not, it's not a continuous
thing.

1481
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,280
It's not like every night you're
going to see Jordan or hear

1482
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,320
Jordan.
I think the ploy of it is, I

1483
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,960
think, to get more people to
tune into NBC slash Peacock,

1484
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,800
wherever the games are going to
be played.

1485
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,400
Or, and just to care about the
NBA in general at all because

1486
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,160
their viewership is down
drastic.

1487
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,600
It's way down, it's way down.
And part of the problem is

1488
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,240
LeBron James.
Like I don't care.

1489
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,960
The fact that the game is boring
as fuck it is.

1490
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,080
Boring.
They like if you look at I had a

1491
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,520
debate with my friend Mark
Montgomery, hey Mark, which I

1492
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,840
want to get him on the show
because he would be a great

1493
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,680
conversation.
Like he has to be.

1494
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,760
It has to be a Friday.
We could.

1495
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,240
I swear to God to you, dude, if
Mark comes on, we can talk for

1496
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,040
four hours and it'll seem like
it's 20 minutes.

1497
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,080
Let it go the the dude I I keep,
I welcome him.

1498
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,680
He he is like you in in the fact
that he's very well read or or

1499
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,080
audio heard.
Yeah, you know, I like to go

1500
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,640
deep on shit.
Right.

1501
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,600
And, and, and so we had this
little quick debate about I put

1502
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,080
this thing up on my page
yesterday on Facebook about

1503
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,360
Jordan's coming in the NBNBCNBA
and NBC.

1504
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,440
And I'm and the meme that I
found of the picture I found was

1505
01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:25,160
basically Jordan doesn't doesn't
pull punches like it is what it

1506
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,920
is.
He's friends with Barkley for a

1507
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,200
reason.
Right.

1508
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,120
Barkley speaks his mind, too.
Right, but they're not that good

1509
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,360
of friends anymore.
Because Barkley spoke his mind.

1510
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,720
Almost According learned the
lesson he needed to in life.

1511
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,680
Right, right.
At least according to the the

1512
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,320
Jordan documentary on him.
And then what I've heard Barkley

1513
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,880
say.
But yeah, Barkley will will RIP

1514
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,880
anybody to shreds.
Barkley has ripped LeBron to

1515
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,800
shreds.
He's going to be to shreds all

1516
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,280
season long this season.
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be

1517
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,840
different when Jordan rips the
NBA to shred, because if you

1518
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,080
look at.
I don't know if he will, though.

1519
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,720
Is he going to be the political?
I don't think so.

1520
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,440
Politically correct.
Jordan, I don't think so.

1521
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,720
I, I don't, I don't.
I mean, he has, he has a high

1522
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:13,560
level respect for the game.
I saw some stats where you know,

1523
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,480
everybody he ever battled
against in his career, the the

1524
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,600
names, the the namesakes, right?
They were all 7 or 8 out of 10,

1525
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,760
meaning meaning you know, he
battled the scoring champion,

1526
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,520
you know, 7 out of 10 times,
right?

1527
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,880
So I mean just the competition
that he had compared to what

1528
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,160
LeBron has is night and day
LeBron.

1529
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,240
I don't think LeBron would last
in this NBA because he would

1530
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,960
just get his ass kicked.
You know, it's embarrassing.

1531
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,640
He's an embarrassing human from
on on the court.

1532
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,960
I I hear the stuff he does off
the off the court and his

1533
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,360
philanthropic work and and what
he does for his community.

1534
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,280
That's all great, but I couldn't
agree with him.

1535
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:57,280
He's horrible for basketball.
It's terrible.

1536
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,400
It's I mean when you, when you
flop to the point that your

1537
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,720
teammates just walk over you,
Yeah, dude, stop.

1538
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,480
Just you're arguing that LeBron
is good for the game.

1539
01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:10,480
You have to re evaluate what
you're looking at, right?

1540
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,120
You do.
There's something wrong with

1541
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,840
you, right?
The only reason it's not good

1542
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,880
for basketball.
No, absolutely not absolutely

1543
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,080
not.
He's he's making it like I told

1544
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,280
Mark when we were talking about
this, like if, if, if, if what

1545
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,320
was LeBron?
He he thinks LeBron is a great

1546
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,160
athlete.
He thinks Jordan's very

1547
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,400
unapproachable.
You know, he kind of.

1548
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,960
LeBron is a great athlete,
there's no denying that.

1549
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:41,920
But would he, would he, would he
survive in the 90s playing

1550
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,920
basketball?
Not that you had to drive the

1551
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,920
lane almost every player to get
there.

1552
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,800
No, because he's hurt all the
time and those guys played every

1553
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,760
fucking game.
And they hit they and so I was

1554
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,400
watching.
Do you see the?

1555
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,520
Distinction.
That's what Jordan and Barkley

1556
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,640
keep saying.
We didn't have a oh, he's

1557
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,880
potentially injured fucking
rule, right?

1558
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,360
Right.
No.

1559
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:05,280
We didn't play, we didn't get
paid.

1560
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,240
That was the bottom line, right?
They played every game.

1561
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,360
They took prime and playing
every game.

1562
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,520
They have a There's things on,
There's a thing on Netflix.

1563
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,440
I think it is.
It's Boston, the Boston versus

1564
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:19,600
the Lakers, right?
The the best team you love to

1565
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,440
hate, something like that.
I got halfway through the first

1566
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:27,720
episode and swear to God
watching just the first half of

1567
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,000
the basketball, the assaults
that occurred.

1568
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,920
Oh yeah, that was a brutal game
back then in the 90s.

1569
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,920
Right.
And and the coaches are on the

1570
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,160
sideline screaming and hollering
like there's this one.

1571
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,400
People were setting blind pics
and shit and just laying people

1572
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:45,680
out.
Right.

1573
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,880
It was, it's Lakers.
It's all about the Lakers and

1574
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,960
the Celtics and their dynasty
and their battles and for

1575
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,280
championship supremacy and
stuff.

1576
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,680
There's, I mean, there's when
they're running away from the

1577
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,600
basket, they score basket.
And then and then I think Larry

1578
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,360
Bird shoves Magic Johnson and
Magic Johnson turns around.

1579
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,840
There's no freaking whistle
blown.

1580
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,360
There's no stop play.
That late 70s to mid 90s late

1581
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,360
90s basketball was it just got
more brutal all the time.

1582
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,400
Which then they nerfed the world
right?

1583
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,880
It got worse because they made
stupid rules that made the game

1584
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,440
less interesting to watch.
It's a lot like watching soccer

1585
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:24,080
now.
If you if if you think Lebron's

1586
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,840
the greatest basketball player
ever, you're entitled to your

1587
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,360
opinion.
I, I challenge you to go on

1588
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:32,320
YouTube and just pull up the 93
NBA season, not just the Bulls,

1589
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,440
just the 93 NBA season and watch
a handful of games.

1590
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,680
And you know, one of Michael
Jordan's greatest quotes.

1591
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,000
What?
He would have said if I cared

1592
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,760
about statistics, I would have
tried a lot harder, right?

1593
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,840
I cared about winning ranks.
Yep.

1594
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,120
Like if I cared about those and
his statistics in the short

1595
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,760
amount of time that he played
Blow Lebron's out of the water

1596
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:57,800
night and day and twice on
Sunday, as they say, right?

1597
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,960
They just do.
And here's a man who put up

1598
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,480
those kind of numbers.
Nobody's still ever been.

1599
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:05,960
What is it the offense of a
Defensive Player of the Year at

1600
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,160
the?
Same time and the MVP of the

1601
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,640
season and the MVP of the
playoffs, right?

1602
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,400
He had all four one year.
Like that's unheard of.

1603
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,280
He watched LeBron on defense.
LeBron stands there.

1604
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,440
He doesn't go down the field.
They don't court.

1605
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:22,400
He just stands there.
The superstars don't play

1606
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,680
defense, which is one of the
problems that I have with the

1607
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,640
NBA.
And you know, everybody asks me.

1608
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,200
What do you want to call
basketball, dude?

1609
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,800
Because they still play the game
the way it's supposed to be

1610
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,680
played.
There's an offense and a defense

1611
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,840
and it's still a competition,
right?

1612
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,320
That's the word I'm looking for.
There's still a competition.

1613
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,480
What I see in the NBA is we're
going to throw the ball from one

1614
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:44,960
end to the other.
We're going to shoot a three.

1615
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,040
We're going to miss every now
and then, somebody's going to

1616
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,560
get an alley oop dunk.
Then we're going to go back to

1617
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,920
throwing it up and down the
court.

1618
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,880
There's no, you just hit the
nail on the head.

1619
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,160
There's no defense.
No, I will.

1620
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,720
I will say the one caveat
because I've always liked the

1621
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,360
three-point ball, right?
Steph Curry is amazing.

1622
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,000
I love watching Steph Curry.
I went through there.

1623
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,720
Steph like you've obviously
you've seen some he.

1624
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,480
Shoots the ball and you're like,
there's no way that's going in.

1625
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,120
And then when he's on a cold
streak, it's like, what's wrong

1626
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,400
with you?
Like they're out of the playoffs

1627
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,560
because he didn't play.
I was like, why were they?

1628
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,440
Why did they only win one out of
five games?

1629
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,360
Like, what's up?
And then I googled it and he's

1630
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,720
hurt.
And that's how much I'm not into

1631
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:26,600
the NBA anymore because I just,
I, I Googled it every once in a

1632
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,480
while, like NBA playoffs.
Oh, the playoffs showing.

1633
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,960
Oh.
I try and watch, I just can't.

1634
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,600
Yeah, no, it's, you know, it is
what it is.

1635
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,160
They've it's, you know, it's
like Jordan said, you're being

1636
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,520
paid on potential, not what
you've done, right, Right.

1637
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,200
There's an A, there's an, a
quote, right.

1638
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,200
There's an ASU football player
that that is getting $15 million

1639
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,560
to stay at, to play at a issue
and, and some other team had

1640
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,160
recruited him, wanted to give
him 23 million.

1641
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,160
He said no and people are kind
of going back and forth with

1642
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,840
that, which, OK, he's already,
he's already, he's in college.

1643
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:03,800
He's he's got $15 million.
Like, why would you leave what

1644
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,600
you comfort with to go make
another 7 million in a different

1645
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,160
city, different state.
So, you know, Speaking of money,

1646
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,840
do you see Brock?
What Brock Purdy got paid?

1647
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:19,880
No. 260 five, $265 million.
Good for him. 180 million won

1648
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,000
and guaranteed.
Good for good for him, but.

1649
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,560
You know how I feel about these
subjects.

1650
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,080
I do.
I couldn't sign that fucking

1651
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,240
thing fast enough.
No but but.

1652
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,760
I play one game and I'd be like,
Oh, my neck.

1653
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,200
Oh no, I do, believe me, I'd
sign up too.

1654
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,440
But the but the argument is and
it's always the same argument.

1655
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:43,280
It's OK.
So he and I know people that

1656
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,080
knew, like I have a friend I
went to high school with that

1657
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,160
ended up being a football coach.
He actually coached him like,

1658
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,080
you know, So we, we, we had a
little debate on Facebook.

1659
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,240
Do I think he's proven himself
to be worth that much money?

1660
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,320
No.
No, that's my that's my point.

1661
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:02,240
Like Eli Manning never
restructured his contract,

1662
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,000
right?
Michael Jordan And then I'm not

1663
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,120
saying Eli and Jordan are the
same category, but Jordan never

1664
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,240
restructured his contract.
He played his original contract

1665
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,960
till the day it expired, and
then he.

1666
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,880
And then he got $50 million a
year for every year thereafter.

1667
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,080
Squirrel moment on topic.
Yeah, OK, Who just got their

1668
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,400
last check for like $3.2
million?

1669
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,200
That's being they quit playing
baseball like in the 90s or some

1670
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:24,440
shit.
Oh, what's this?

1671
01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:26,200
Did you see that?
Yeah.

1672
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,320
I was blown away by that.
He it was that was his agent man

1673
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,920
every.
Year Was it Ken Griffey Junior?

1674
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:38,560
No, somebody else.
They got like a last 3.2 million

1675
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,000
dollar $3.6 million check.
They've been paid for like 22

1676
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,560
years after they stopped
playing.

1677
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,080
I thought that was great.
Yeah, it was brilliant.

1678
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,600
I forget I know it.
I know it sounds up my tongue

1679
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,120
but.
I anyway, isn't that, that's

1680
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,400
super smart, right?
Yeah, totally.

1681
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,760
And that's and that's the thing.
It's it's it's.

1682
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,680
Thumbs up.
Jordan, again, I go back to

1683
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,840
Jordan, because Jordan signed
his rookie contract.

1684
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,160
That was it.
He never negotiated it.

1685
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,200
He let that contract expire.
Then he negotiated.

1686
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,800
He got 50 million a year, which
back then 50 million a year was,

1687
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,920
you know, Brady renegotiated all
the time.

1688
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,920
But Brady renegotiated his
contract because he wanted to

1689
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,720
have strong support players
around him, which makes sense.

1690
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,200
Eli Never.
Did win in Super Bowls.

1691
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,640
When Eli retired, which a lot of
people don't know this at the at

1692
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:28,240
the time, Eli was the most, he
was the highest played paid

1693
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,280
football player in the history
of the NFL from a contractual

1694
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,360
standpoint because he never, he
never negotiated.

1695
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,600
He just he signed it and that's
it showed up every day and

1696
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,040
played.
He missed one game because Ben

1697
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:42,480
McAdoo benched him and but other
than that, like, you know, so

1698
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,560
that's my point.
Brock Purdy, yes, he took them

1699
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,160
to the playoffs.
He took them into the Super

1700
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,440
Bowl.
But and it's a team sport, but

1701
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:57,560
he hasn't he hasn't delivered
and I he's, you know, super good

1702
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,960
human.
I mean, I know he's Arizona

1703
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,280
ties.
So I hear all kinds of, you

1704
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,920
know, lovey dovey stories about
him.

1705
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,120
Yeah, and I'm not saying he's
not.

1706
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,880
Like.
You said he's a great athlete,

1707
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:12,320
but to command that kind of
money with that shorter resume

1708
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,640
is a huge.
You're talking like you're going

1709
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,960
all in on an opening roll in
craps hoping somebody's going to

1710
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,240
hit a 7 or 11, right?
Right, right.

1711
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,640
That's what I see.
If I'm an owner, I would be

1712
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,760
like, we're going to do what?
Yeah.

1713
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,120
I just hold.
Whoa, whoa.

1714
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Like you.
Know and stop the.

1715
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,120
Train.
And to his and right, and but to

1716
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,760
brought it to to Brock's the
Brock's I, I don't you know what

1717
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,000
I mean.
To Brock's credit, to Brock's

1718
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,960
credit, you could have gone in
and renegotiated his his rookie

1719
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,760
contract.
He was Mr. Relevant.

1720
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,880
He made crap compared to
everybody else.

1721
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,640
Yeah, league and.
He right, and he could have held

1722
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,400
out like, you know, a lot of
players do, but he didn't.

1723
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,040
So which shows you the type of
character he is as a human.

1724
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,400
He had a contract.
He honored it, you know, period.

1725
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,400
Great for him, I just don't.
Yeah, you know me, I'm never

1726
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,360
denying denouncing someone's
character because I don't know

1727
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,080
the guy.
I'm just saying with the small

1728
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:10,120
bit that I see that he's done in
the face of the public in the

1729
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,680
job that he's being paid to do.
Right.

1730
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:16,440
No, I I couldn't sit there in
good conscience and give him

1731
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:19,600
$181 million.
No.

1732
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,280
And that's guaranteed his total
contract's 265, but it it it and

1733
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,080
so like.
I might give him 265 and say OK,

1734
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,040
20 million of this is guaranteed
and the others incentive based

1735
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,880
and I would have some pretty
good incentives, right?

1736
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,320
Right.
I mean, but go back.

1737
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,080
Deshaun Watson.
They paid him $260 million.

1738
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,040
He's awash.
Deshaun Cousins will never.

1739
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:40,080
Yeah.
Cousins.

1740
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,600
Yeah, Kirk Cousins.
He's the I think he's holds the

1741
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,920
record for the highest pay, most
amount of money in the shortest

1742
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,400
amount of time with no results.
Right.

1743
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,400
Good on football.
Heck of a football player, you

1744
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,080
know, but he never heck.
Of a human being.

1745
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:55,680
Right.
Yeah, totally.

1746
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,280
So Deshaun Watson, that's a
waste of money because he's

1747
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,440
never going to amount to
anything.

1748
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,360
Kyler Murray, waste of money.
He's, I'm sorry, Arizona, he's

1749
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,400
not taking you to the Super
Bowl.

1750
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,040
He's too.
Small.

1751
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,280
No, he's another bust.
I couldn't agree with you more.

1752
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,800
Total bust.
Our guy's going to be a bust.

1753
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,320
You watch.
Who's your guy?

1754
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,640
Caleb Williams.
Oh yeah, Cale, Yeah.

1755
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,800
Did he get paid?
Paid.

1756
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,400
I don't know yet you.
I don't think he got paid paid

1757
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:18,760
and he's still on his rookie
contract.

1758
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,520
I think that's the best thing.
The best thing that could have

1759
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,960
happened to Shadur Sanders was
the fifth round, because now

1760
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,120
he's got a chip and he picked
#12 because he's coming after

1761
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,320
Brady.
Good.

1762
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:30,800
Come after Brady, dude.
Show us.

1763
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,400
Show us, Show us that you're
more than what everybody thought

1764
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,880
you were because you handled
your meetings and your

1765
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,000
interviews.
Show the world you were wrong.

1766
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:38,840
We were wrong.
Here's.

1767
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,640
What Tom Brady's saying, I've
been there, done that, right?

1768
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,560
So yeah, sure.
Come after all those.

1769
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,960
Records.
Yeah, I would be.

1770
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,400
That would be fantastic.
That would be that would be a

1771
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,120
greatest story ever.
Of course it would.

1772
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,280
Was supposed to be here.
Drop to here, chip on his

1773
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,800
shoulder.
I'm going to change the the

1774
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,400
evolution of.
Football goes out and breaks

1775
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,440
every record, Dan, If I've ever
seen, I would love to see that.

1776
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,440
Right.
Absolutely.

1777
01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:04,280
Because it'd be great for the
game, right?

1778
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,080
Exciting.
But Willie, No.

1779
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,360
No, I have my doubt.
No, because because the Browns

1780
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,080
have 5 quarterbacks.
I saw that, I'm glad you brought

1781
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,680
that up.
I was sitting there having

1782
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:21,200
coffee with my dad when the, the
week that he got drafted and

1783
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,480
their little thing scrolls
across the bottom of ESPN all

1784
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:26,520
the time, right?
And it listed the Browns

1785
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:31,120
quarterbacks and it's like #1 #2
#3 and it just kept going #4 I'm

1786
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,840
like, Jesus, they got 5
quarterbacks.

1787
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,920
And five quarterbacks.
So two of them got to go.

1788
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:39,720
You got to cut 2 of them because
you can't carry more than three.

1789
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,640
Yeah, you get one for the
practice squad and a backup.

1790
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,240
Yeah, so two of them are so, you
know, and it can't be the I

1791
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,480
mean, they they should just cut
Deshaun Watson because he's

1792
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,080
just, he's just, you know, you
know.

1793
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,520
You said it, he's a bust.
He's a total bust.

1794
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,800
He doesn't have it.
He doesn't he, he just, he was

1795
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,280
really good in Houston, but
that's when he was really good,

1796
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:05,760
right, You know?
That's it.

1797
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,640
He just, he peaked.
Yeah, he did, which is sad

1798
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,440
because, you know, but he made
his millions and yeah, Oh yeah,

1799
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,160
he made all his money and then
some.

1800
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:20,840
You know what else you want to
talk about, Squirrel?

1801
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,320
Hey, by the way, this is Chris
and my show.

1802
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,080
Follow us on Instagram, Facebook
and YouTube.

1803
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,800
Drop a review.
We're working on a

1804
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,520
chrisandmyshow.com website that
should be pretty legit.

1805
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,280
We do drop shorts twice a day on
on YouTube.

1806
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,240
So it's really important to to
subscribe to YouTube because you

1807
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,880
can see those shorts and they're
they're from all different

1808
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,880
shows.
So it's not just something

1809
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,200
you've seen.
They may be something from the

1810
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,400
past, something from the future
that you have not seen yet.

1811
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:50,080
So definitely subscribe to
YouTube, you know, because why

1812
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,280
not?
And we're also on Spotify, Apple

1813
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,240
podcast, where else, all
platforms.

1814
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,880
Any Yeah, pretty much anywhere
you would listen to a podcast.

1815
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,840
I can't think of one that we're
not on.

1816
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,000
And is that something that you
did or does it just happen that

1817
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,280
way?
No, I did it.

1818
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,080
It's called a RSS feed and it
doesn't really matter, but it

1819
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,440
stands for.
I know what it is, yeah.

1820
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,360
Real simple syndication.
That's what it stands for.

1821
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,960
So you put the RSS feed on
different things then?

1822
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:21,040
Well, when you when you home
base yourself somewhere which

1823
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:26,000
we're home based at Spotify,
Spotify provides a service where

1824
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:31,280
if you type in your link at
Spotify to their special RSS

1825
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,080
deal, they send it everywhere
else.

1826
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:39,600
So we're on Overcast,
iHeartRadio, Amazon, Apple,

1827
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,480
Spotify.
Like I said, pretty much

1828
01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:46,480
anywhere you would listen to a
podcast were there so.

1829
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,000
You're going, you're going to
have to show me that for the my

1830
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,480
podcast, boys and girls, which
is a moment with the real estate

1831
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,240
guy.
Every Tuesday I drop Oh yeah, we

1832
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,120
do tangible information.
Yes.

1833
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,280
That was it.
That's all I had.

1834
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,720
That was my plan.
And post those on our page and

1835
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,560
post them on the Chris and Mike
Show.

1836
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,880
When we get that going, we'll
set you up a section for your

1837
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,440
real estate podcast for sure.
Cool.

1838
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,280
And maybe if I get really good
at this, we'll take on some more

1839
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,480
people for the Iron Dog Podcast
Network and actually make it a

1840
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:19,680
real podcast network.
That would be fun.

1841
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,040
It would be fun one step at a
time, but might need Mark

1842
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,400
Jeffrey's help.
One step at a time, Buck.

1843
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,520
Jeffrey hasn't hasn't left us a
review yet.

1844
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,120
I've been acting bugging him a
cold time.

1845
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,160
He's a busy guy.
I'm sure he'll get to it.

1846
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,960
I know, I know.
You brought a tight ship,

1847
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,840
brother.
I bought a tight ship.

1848
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,600
You see, I got Joe on there.
I did.

1849
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,680
Oh, yeah, I didn't.
I didn't.

1850
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,680
Good job.
What about Jake?

1851
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,840
Jake responded today.
Jake has been taking finals, so

1852
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,600
he has checked out of the
universe for a couple weeks here

1853
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,800
and I think he's reintegrating
himself back to society.

1854
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:52,960
So, all right.
Good.

1855
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,080
Yeah, Yeah.
He's a college student.

1856
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,120
Yeah, because because I anybody
that like the one that was

1857
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,240
supposed to be on the show
today, I told him like the show

1858
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,320
doesn't start without making
sure you've done these three

1859
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,280
things.
And she did those three things.

1860
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,200
She left us a review about
excited to come on the show and

1861
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:14,640
then, yeah, not on the show.
So, you know, and, and I tell

1862
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,440
everybody it's you know.
I understand shit happens but.

1863
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,880
I do too.
You've booked.

1864
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,520
Things up because we have a show
to run here, right?

1865
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,720
We can't just not have a guest
all the time, so.

1866
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,160
No.
And if you're a life coach, you

1867
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,600
should know what your life is
about that day.

1868
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,400
It's helpful.
You know, so we do.

1869
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,960
Surely keep track of better
track of your husband please.

1870
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,480
Yes, yes.
He was in the hospital.

1871
01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:42,000
Poor soul, right?
Anything else you want to talk

1872
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,240
about?
What do I have?

1873
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,880
Oh, I'm going to leave you with
one funny thought and this will

1874
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,440
make you feel better when you
run into people that just make

1875
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:52,040
you go all.
Right.

1876
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,920
Well, you know, enjoy the next
24 hours, Mike.

1877
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,920
I fucking love that.
That was so right up our alley.

1878
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,880
I'm like screenshot screenshot
screenshot like 9 times so I

1879
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,160
wouldn't lose it.
This is a true fact.

1880
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,200
This is from Look.
Speaking of the devil, Nikki

1881
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,520
just walked in.
She's not the devil I'm talking

1882
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,120
to.
No, no.

1883
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,000
But we were Speaking of you.
Know you're talking to the

1884
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:12,880
devil.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1885
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,640
She's the sexy devil.
There you go.

1886
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,280
We can.
We can go with that.

1887
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,480
This is from National
Geographic.

1888
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,760
OK.
One in ten Americans still think

1889
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,080
the Earth is flat.
See.

1890
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,160
OK, so little.
Man, Mike said hi.

1891
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,560
She just waved.
Mike says hi.

1892
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,880
So so when little man, I showed
him this picture earlier this

1893
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,040
week of there's there's no ice
wall in the Antarctic.

1894
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,040
OK, you know what I'm talking
about.

1895
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,840
Yes, I totally know what you're
talking about.

1896
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:43,720
So it's like 9000 meters tall.
So the way the picture, right?

1897
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,640
So the way the picture looks,
you have the Earth, you have the

1898
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:50,520
Antarctica, then you have this
wall that comes around and then

1899
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,240
it's black because it's
obviously the dark side of the

1900
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,320
wall.
So it's black.

1901
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,240
He's like the Earth is flat.
Pop, pop.

1902
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:02,040
No, it's not.
So then I went so, so because we

1903
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,800
were on YouTube, because he
wants to be an astral, he's

1904
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,600
still in that, that space mode.
So we went on YouTube and I and

1905
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,080
I, I, I googled Earth.
I mean, he was messing with

1906
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:11,480
because he's getting that sense
of humor.

1907
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,840
So then, yeah, I yeah, that's
the Earth's round, dude, come

1908
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,200
on.
But the but the picture legit.

1909
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,320
You could tell by looking at the
picture why somebody would think

1910
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,880
it was flat. 100%.
You know.

1911
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,760
That's how that's how these
people talk these people into

1912
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,520
it.
But like, dude, I got

1913
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,880
photographic evidence.
It's like, no, you have an

1914
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,000
illusion.
Yeah, it is an illusion.

1915
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,920
Like what you got there, Plant?
It's a, it's a plant.

1916
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,280
She's she's cleaning out her
classroom and she has plants in

1917
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,120
her classroom.
So I was at the end of the

1918
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,040
school year.
Yeah, so she's bringing plants

1919
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,000
home.
She's got this.

1920
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,000
She's got a half a day tomorrow
with kids and then the rest of

1921
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:52,000
the week is just nonsense and
full day tomorrow, half day

1922
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,080
Thursday.
Good for her.

1923
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,760
There's the plants.
You have an addition to your

1924
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,480
office.
There's more.

1925
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:58,680
There's more.
Plants.

1926
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,400
Plants breathe life into
America, into the souls.

1927
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,920
A funny little fact here, boys
and girls.

1928
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,360
Jasmine.
OK, the plant that Jasmine, it

1929
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,440
actually cleans and purifies and
deodorizes your air.

1930
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:12,160
So if you have And it helps you
sleep better.

1931
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,960
So if you want to sleep better
at night, put a Jasmine plant in

1932
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,800
your bedroom.
I'm glad you said something

1933
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,400
about that.
I'm going to send you one other

1934
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:19,960
thing that's going to blow your
mind.

1935
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,040
You don't have to.
You can just read it because

1936
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,840
it's kind of long.
OK?

1937
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:25,800
You're going to love this one
too.

1938
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,160
It has to do with what you just
said, food.

1939
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,920
About Jasmine plants or.
No food secrets you need to know

1940
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:37,040
it's food secrets, yes.
So.

1941
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,040
Here's one that blew my mind.
OK, place mushrooms and sunlight

1942
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,920
an hour before cooking.
They absorb vitamin D like a

1943
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,760
sponge.
I didn't know that.

1944
01:32:46,440 --> 01:32:48,640
I didn't know that either.
Interesting.

1945
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,920
Do you use turmeric in in your
diet?

1946
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,880
Turmeric Every Every now and
then we have turmeric.

1947
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,600
It depends on if we're having
casual Indian food for dinner,

1948
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,920
which is very not.
It does you no good if you don't

1949
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,280
use it with black pepper.
But we don't we'd.

1950
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,360
Oh, really?
So Curry.

1951
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,560
Curry turmeric.
Works 20 times better when eaten

1952
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,120
with black pepper.
Wow.

1953
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,120
This is another one that
everybody needs to hear.

1954
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,400
Crushed garlic and let's sit for
10 minutes before cooking.

1955
01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:19,400
This boost the disease fighting
compound Allison.

1956
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:25,000
Huh.
I lost my mind on Allison Rd.

1957
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,200
This blew my mind too.
I always wondered if tomatoes

1958
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,080
were still healthy when they're
cooked.

1959
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,160
Tomatoes are actually more
healthy when they're cooked.

1960
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:38,600
They release more Lycopen, a
powerful antioxidant which is

1961
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,160
good for your heart and your
skin, makes your skin glow.

1962
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,440
Chris Dunham.
Makes your skin glow.

1963
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,440
It's glowing.
It's glowing right now because I

1964
01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:48,080
got the light right there.
It's glowing.

1965
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,400
OK, so your other one here
pairing item iron with vitamin C

1966
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,560
it boosts that boosts the iron
absorption by combining it with

1967
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,760
foods I.
Found that kind of fascinating

1968
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,800
too.
It's a trip like I do lemon or

1969
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,440
use lemon juice on greens.
Talk to Peter Ho about this on

1970
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,080
Friday.
See, now we both got it.

1971
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,080
OK, interesting man.
Don't eat oatmeal plain.

1972
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,000
No, because oatmeal plain is bad
for you.

1973
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,240
It's not too healthy, people
think.

1974
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,760
That's right this Friday, right?
Peter Holt and Nate Palmer,

1975
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,000
$1,000,000 body.
I'm looking forward to this.

1976
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,720
Like Nate's like, can I pick a
fight?

1977
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,120
Nate, can I pick a?
No, a debate that's.

1978
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:29,840
Why?
I said I'm like, I'm like, I'm

1979
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,040
like, you can't pick a fight,
Nate.

1980
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,560
We're not fighting, we're
debating.

1981
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,560
I'm like, I'm like, like Peter's
a health and Wellness coach.

1982
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,000
You're a health and fitness
coach.

1983
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,640
I'm like, you know, because he
saw Peter doing the doing the

1984
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,480
drops.
Nate apparently has issue with

1985
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:46,040
drops, so we're going to find
out.

1986
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,560
That'll be fun.
They can.

1987
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,720
They can Duke it out in a
healthy they're going to be

1988
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,240
fine.
I know, I know.

1989
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,680
You and I agree to disagree all
the time on this, that's why I

1990
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,880
always ask you before I give you
my opinion.

1991
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,600
Right.
But you never have to ask.

1992
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:01,680
You just have to give me your
opinion.

1993
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:02,640
I don't care.
I don't.

1994
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,440
I don't need to be.
I don't.

1995
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:03,720
I.
Don't.

1996
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,760
No, I don't want you to be
swayed in any way.

1997
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,720
And then then when we don't
agree, I'm like, now here's why

1998
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,400
I don't agree with you, but
whatever.

1999
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,720
I asked you earlier, which I
could never remember now because

2000
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,080
that was over an hour ago.
Right.

2001
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,280
We agreed wholeheartedly.
Oh, it was on the shooting.

2002
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:20,640
Right.
Yeah.

2003
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,160
That guy, the Alec Baldwin.
Yeah, Yeah.

2004
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,880
So another Margie story.
Because she lived in Hollywood,

2005
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:33,880
so she she she punched Tom
Petty's daughter in the nose.

2006
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:36,760
She's the one that authorized
the biography, the movie.

2007
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,760
I know.
I know, and so Margie punched

2008
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:43,120
her when they were kids.
Billy Idol was riding down

2009
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:46,240
Sunset Strip.
I think I may or might correct,

2010
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,080
but on his Harley and she
screamed to the Topper lungs.

2011
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,920
Oh my God, it's Billy Arnold to
the fact that he squirked his

2012
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,600
bike and turned back and looked
and almost got in an accident.

2013
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,240
So she, I mean, that's why,
that's why we worked so well

2014
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,120
when I did the radio show
because it was the IT was the,

2015
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,840
she was the Robin Quivers to my
Howard Stern.

2016
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,680
It just worked.
But just, you know, because you

2017
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,760
got to have somebody like my
podcast I do was cool because

2018
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,920
it's just me dropping hints and
tips, but they're only like 2

2019
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,360
minutes or less because I'm not
going to sit here and.

2020
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,760
I will tell you right now, there
is only one podcast this tells

2021
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,320
you.
So Chris couldn't have brought

2022
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,560
up a better subject.
There is only one podcast that I

2023
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,960
can listen to.
Or the guy does it by himself.

2024
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:29,040
And Rogan would agree in spades
too, and that's Bill Burr

2025
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:35,080
because he is a fucking artist.
That man can argue with himself

2026
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,240
and have you laughing so hard
that you got to hit pause.

2027
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,920
It's like that.
I just got I need a minute,

2028
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,040
right?
And then let him go on again.

2029
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,800
He's just got the talent to be
able to know how to keep a

2030
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,880
conversation going by himself.
Joe tried it a couple times by

2031
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,320
himself and he finally admit
it's weird.

2032
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,240
Yeah.
I think you've got to get over

2033
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:59,000
the fact you're you just feel
like you're talking to no one.

2034
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,320
If you weren't here right now I
would feel super weird.

2035
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,480
Well, and that's why when I,
when I because I've gone back

2036
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,080
and forth forever about doing a
podcast with a moment with the

2037
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,320
real estate guy, because I've
always had that kind of idea.

2038
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,800
Sure.
But a couple people have reached

2039
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,640
out to locally, they're like,
yeah, you know, maybe a show

2040
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,840
here or there, but I'm not like,
OK, so then I just find this

2041
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,160
out, you know what, what if I
just drop 2 minute segments and

2042
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:26,400
I just focus on one, one thing
and, and just shoot it.

2043
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,200
And then it's just, it's, it's
information.

2044
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,200
That's legit information.
It's real.

2045
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,200
It ties to the real estate
world.

2046
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:38,240
And it just, you know, so I
think it, I think it worked.

2047
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,640
It wasn't, you know, I what I
wanted to do, which bummed me

2048
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,040
out.
Like you can't get shorts out of

2049
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,760
Riverside unless you go for.
They have to be 5 minutes or

2050
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,040
longer.
Right, so I did my first one

2051
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,720
like a minute and I was like I
can't do a short.

2052
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,040
I'm like OK, maybe I'll go 2
minutes.

2053
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,440
I still can't do a short.
I don't know what I would.

2054
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:56,000
The only way I can do a 5 minute
show is if I had.

2055
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:57,880
I have a way for you to fix
that.

2056
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,000
Well, I was thinking.
To talk about it off the air.

2057
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:01,720
OK.
I was thinking if I had like,

2058
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:07,680
like, you know, 45 second to a
minute knowledge bombs and just

2059
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,760
record it on one thing and then
there's my shorts.

2060
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,960
You don't even have to do that.
You can combine those things you

2061
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,400
did together as one.
Oh and then and then.

2062
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,560
So I had to have 6 episodes as
one and then pull shorts out of

2063
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,280
it.
Yeah.

2064
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,080
So what you would do is you're
going to put them all into one

2065
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,640
file.
Just make a new file, put them

2066
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,560
all in there together as one
long thing that you're never

2067
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,720
going to use for anything other
than to cut those shorts out of.

2068
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:36,800
Oh.
Right on.

2069
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,400
OK, you have to show me that.
Yeah, I learned it by accident

2070
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,160
because you accidentally
recorded two of our podcasts in

2071
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,200
Wade Simmons Podcast and I
couldn't find it, so I had to

2072
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,520
reach out to customer service.
I, I don't know how I did that,

2073
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,080
but that explains why when I
opened up Riverside, Wade

2074
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,680
Simmons pops up.
I'm like, why does he keep

2075
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,200
popping up?
So I need to go in.

2076
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,360
So I need to go into Wade
Simmons to get those shorts of

2077
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,520
those other two episodes.
No, I moved them into their own.

2078
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,680
OK, I fixed it a long time.
Ago, good job.

2079
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,760
I'm the behind the scenes guys,
ladies and gentlemen.

2080
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,320
He's beside me, he's Hey, so
again the.

2081
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,120
Support knows who I am.
He does, absolutely.

2082
01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:14,520
So this is the Chris and Mike
show.

2083
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,640
Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
drop a review, give us a follow

2084
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,880
on all platforms.
We always wrap up the shows like

2085
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,640
this.
Don't let the bad days win.

2086
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:24,880
Somebody Loves You, somebody
needs you.

2087
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,200
Somebody will miss you tomorrow
if you're not there to answer

2088
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,440
your phone or text or open that
door with your smiling face.

2089
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,120
That's right, that's right.
So there you go.

2090
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,560
Anything else you want to add?
That's it, that's it.

2091
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,320
That's good.
Good, good show, good show.

2092
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,640
And you know, to our guest that
wasn't here, sorry, you know,

2093
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,840
I'll reach backed out to you
maybe in August, see if there's

2094
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,600
a spot for you, you know,
because again, thanks, you know,

2095
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,840
you know, they do happen, but be
be respectful of other people's

2096
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,160
times and challenges because I
could have had somebody else in

2097
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,520
the spot agreed, you know, but
it is always nice.

2098
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:01,520
I think I'm going to reserve at
least one Tuesday every month

2099
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,160
just for you and I because I
like just talking to you.

2100
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,960
Do whatever you need to do.
I like talking to you too, you

2101
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:07,120
know that.
That's why we started.

2102
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,680
It is.
It is absolutely, But it's fun.

2103
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,160
Learning about other people, I
think you're seeing that side of

2104
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,600
it too, right?
Yes, we've learned every,

2105
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,400
everybody we've had on it,
they've taught us something and

2106
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,280
we've taken something away.
And we and they.

2107
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:24,040
For the people that wonder why I
gravitated towards Rogan, that's

2108
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:28,800
why, because what his podcast
became was just that I learned

2109
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,240
so much from like Graham Hancock
and Mike Baker, who was a former

2110
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,560
CIA agent and you know, all
these MMA fighters who have done

2111
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:41,600
great things other than MMA.
Like just like I told Alicia

2112
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,760
with Justin Ran, he went over to
the Congo and you know, these

2113
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,680
people did great things.
And I just, I love hearing those

2114
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,280
stories.
It's like reading a book without

2115
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,120
having to read, right?
Right, right.

2116
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,200
You just sit there and listen to
them as orbit, which is fun.

2117
01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:55,840
I love it.
So thank you for doing this with

2118
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,120
me.
I've meant to say that for a

2119
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:58,720
long time.
I love you brother.

2120
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,560
This has been.
Thank you for thank you for

2121
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,640
having me, Mike.
Thank you for having me.

2122
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,360
It's it's a, it's a mutual
acceptance.

2123
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,680
It is.
Absolutely love you too, man.

2124
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,520
Love you everybody.
We'll see you next time.

2125
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:12,800
Absolutely, thanks for
listening.

2126
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,760
See you peace.
Peace.

2127
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:50,040
You will go behind your eyes.
Take your moment.

2128
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,360
Look until your tear.
Fight your battle until your

2129
01:41:54,480 --> 01:42:02,560
bust wheel, fight your battle.
Hold your baby till your tear.

2130
01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:26,490
Come
down here, we haven't found

2131
01:43:26,530 --> 01:43:32,490
salty and sand from fighting.
Wait for the dead.

2132
01:43:32,490 --> 01:43:36,610
Wait exposure out here for the
wind.

2133
01:43:36,610 --> 01:43:40,930
You ain't no creature.
We're playing Smound.

2134
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,480
You quit on the almighty man.
You got a dream.

2135
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:55,840
Who in your life to keep up?
So in every man, take the trip

2136
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,520
behind your eyes.
Feel the soul revolution now.

2137
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:09,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

2138
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,360
You gotta.
You gotta.

2139
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:49,480
You gotta.
You gotta.