#105 - Peter Vinnicomb - Australian First Responder

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Music.
There you go.

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And we're live.
We are live.

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On the YouTube even.
On the YouTube even it's the

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Christian Mike show, we got
Peter.

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Is it Vinicombe?
Vinicombe.

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Vinicom, Peter Vinicom.
Here we go.

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Boys and girls, everybody.
So there you have it.

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There you go.
This is the Chris and Mike show

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and we are, we are.
This is kind of cool.

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For those of you just joining us
live on YouTube and those who

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will be joining us later on,
Peter is in Australia, I am in

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Arizona, Mike is in Illinois.
That is the power of technology

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in a positive way.
We have traversed the

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International Dateline for the
first time.

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And it's, and Peter's living in
the future from what I

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understand, it's when we're
recording this, it's, it's 3:00

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on a Tuesday afternoon in in
America.

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What time was it in Australia,
Peter?

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It is 8:00 Wednesday morning.
Wow so so let us know what

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happens between now and tomorrow
morning, because I would like to

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know I want to know about the
stocks I want to know about what

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what sports teams have won or
lost.

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I want to know what what I
should invest in right now.

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So then I reap the benefits
tomorrow.

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OK.
And then if there's.

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Anything else?
And a $70 million Lotto drawer

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about maybe 12 hours ago.
OK.

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And what are those numbers?
Give us the numbers.

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I'll I'll I'll PM them to you.
OK, cool.

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Because then we'll we'll split
it, man.

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We'll split it three ways.
Is and is it it's hilarious.

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Is it Australian money?
It is.

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So that's 70 million probably
the difference is we don't pay

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tax on our Lotto wins.
Really, which is the way it

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should be?
So if you win, 70,000,070

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million goes into your bank.
OK, So what?

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Can't tell you how many.
I can't tell you how many

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people, Peter, that I hear say
if I were going to live anywhere

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else in the world other than the
United States, they all say

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Australia.
So you guys must do a lot of

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things right down there.
Yeah, I was dragged over here

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when I was 12 years old.
I was brought up in England and

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I wasn't, wasn't impressed to
come over.

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Dad hated the the cold weather.
He he worked on a ship and loved

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the heat.
So we came over in in 87 for a

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holiday and then they said we're
moving.

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OK.
So I was brought over in 89 and

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yeah, I would, I wouldn't live
anywhere else.

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Love it.
That's all.

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Really.
So, so we've heard now from

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America, because America, this
is one, this is the question I

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wanted to ask you.
So, so Americans, the viewpoint

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of Australians, right?
And this is sounds so it's

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usually like when I, when I,
when I think of Australia, I

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think #1 Crocodile Dundee, OK, I
think of, I think, and this

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isn't, this isn't me mocking
anybody, but you put another

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shrimp on the Bobby, right?
Those are the, those are the two

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instant things that comes to
mind as an American after

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Australia.
That and the fact that you're on

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the other side of the world,
right?

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And your, and your toilet water
goes the opposite direction than

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our water.
I don't know if that's real or

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not.
But I was guilty of all that

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until I, you know, did some
research myself because so many

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people said they wanted to live
there.

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I'm like, this has to be a great
place.

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You know, I had the same
initiation to Australia that you

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did.
It's silly and everybody over

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here says the same thing.
But I think he's going to say

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it's nothing like that.
Well, and this is my question,

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what what do Australians think
of Americans in that kind of

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context?
Like, do you just think we're

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all arrogant asshole Donald
Trump loving type?

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You know, from from your
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Yeah, from your perspective.
What do you what?

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Yeah.
I think Americans in general

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often don't know much outside of
their own backyard in world,

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world affairs and geography and
that type of thing.

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Yeah, there are a lot of people
that think Australia is this

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tiny backwards hit town, You
know, even though it's a massive

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country, Australians probably
one of the friendliest mobs out

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there.
You know, we definitely have our

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issues.
There's we don't have guns, you

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know, there's, there's, there
are guns for people in sporting

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shooting associations and in on
the land.

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But apart from that, we don't
have the worry about guns.

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Your police don't carry guns
either.

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No, the police do carry guns.
Yeah, so, and if I had to guess,

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I'd say we probably average
maybe two to three school

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shooting, school shootings, just
police shootings every year

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Australia wide.
Two to three in the entire

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continent.
Yeah, yeah, there's not a lot.

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So so.
Just so people understand it's a

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culture thing though, you know,
so we athletes don't go up to

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people in a, in a, in a traffic
stop and think that they're

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carrying.
It's, it's an extremely rare

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thing.
I mean, there is organized crime

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and that sort of thing.
So, you know, there's, there's

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bad players in every country,
but generally it's not too bad.

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So you you, so you open up the
can of worms about the mob.

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Is your mob similar to like the
the American mobsters that, you

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know, gambling, racketeering,
prostitution, drugs, all that

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kind of jazz, Like go over and
take over a city and just, you

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know, bring it down into the
absolute, you know, just dregs

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of society.
Are they more respectful?

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A lot of the organised crime is
what we call outlawed bikie

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gangs.
So most, most, most one

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percenters of the bikie gangs
are outlawed and it's actually

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illegal for them to to to band
together and that sort of thing

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and be found.
And I think it's more than three

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people and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of that and

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they're the bikie gangs are
probably the most organised

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crime over here.
But there's definitely, you

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know, Chinese groups and, and,
you know, Lebanese groups and

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that sort of thing in different
pockets around the country.

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OK, let me ask you this, Peter.
From what I understand, and I've

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done a moderate amount of
research on Australia because

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I'd like to go there one day,
isn't it true that the majority

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of the civilized population
lives in a tiny part of a

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gigantic continent?
Is that not true?

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Absolutely, yeah.
No, that is very true.

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The the mainly the eastern
seaboard of Australia is your

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most populous.
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If you know roughly how many
miles is that wide towards what

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you guys would call the Outback
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Well, see, I'm, so I'm in
Townsville, I live in far North

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Queensland.
So for those that know

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Australia, you kind of got that
pointy bits at the top right.

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I'm sort of towards towards the
northern part of there.

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But it still probably takes me
another 8 hours to get to the

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tip.
OK, driving.

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And then to get down to
Brisbane, which is the capital

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city of the state that I'm in,
is about 1300 kilometres.

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Wow.
Then it's about 1000 kilometres

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to Sydney and about 1000
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So they they're your three major
cities in, in Australia would be

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Brisbane, Sydney and and
Melbourne.

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And then across on the other
side of the country, which I

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think think it's about it's
either 7 or 8000 kilometres over

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to Perth.
OK, yeah, people don't realize

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Australia is gigantic.
Right.

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So if so, how many?
How many Texas is Australia?

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Because Texas is pretty big.
I knew it one time to be honest

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with you, I don't want to guess
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I think it's like, well, I'll
Google it if you got I got one

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more question.
So explain to the people.

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So now we know that everybody
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As far as civilized society,
what is the rest of the

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continent like from like N to
Southeast to West?

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Is it all the same or is it
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It's different and there are
pockets of people throughout.

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There's a lot of mining goes on
in Australia.

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So a lot of the Outback, what we
call the Outback towns are, are

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pretty much around those, those
sort of mines.

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And then you get little pockets
and then there's a lot of

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indigenous places spread
throughout and they can be.

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So the most, most remote place
I've worked is probably a place

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called Buck Alden.
And that's six hours inland from

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a medium sized city.
It's an hour and a half from any

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clinical backup or, or anything
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Kangaroos are literally sitting
in your front, your front lawn.

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Yeah, there's a, there's a lot
of stereotypes that, you know,

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we catch Kangaroos to school and
things like that.

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When you're in the Outback
there, there are Kangaroos

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sitting in your front yard.
And that's crazy.

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Yeah.
Now how?

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Are those people living?
Are they living in traditional

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houses?
Are they living in huts?

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Are they poor?
Do they you know what?

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What kind of lifestyle are they
living out there?

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Normal houses, they're normal
city, normal towns, often 1500

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people would be, you know,
around 1000 people would be sort

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of be a minimum kind of thing.
There's, look, there's, there's

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definitely indigenous towns that
are, are quite poverty stricken

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and they, they live a different
lifestyle with, with the, you

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know, there's, there's rampant
alcohol problems and crime

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problems and that sort of thing.
And that's, that's probably the

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biggest ongoing institutional
issue that we have is the

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disparity between Indigenous
people and, and, and the common

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folk.
So Indigenous people is the

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Aborigines, correct?
That's correct.

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And then so.
Indigenous, Aboriginal and

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Torres Strait Islanders.
OK, so for those that don't

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understand that may not truly
grasp the concept of Aborigines

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or what what's their are they
like the original settlers in

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Australia?
Yeah, they've got a history

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here, you know, not forgive me
if I misquote times, but they,

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they've been here thousands and
thousands of years.

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There's rock paintings and stuff
going back a long, long time.

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And then Australia was basically
taken over in 1788 when Captain

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Cook sailed over.
And yeah, and basically there

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was a mass genocide.
There was a lot of a lot of

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people killed.
And then then there was a, you

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know, it's a pretty, pretty piss
poor history in dealing with

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Indigenous folks.
Didn't the English make it a

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prison colony for a while?
Yep, that's exactly what who

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came over in the first fleet was
was it was English convicts and

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then they they basically wiped
out indigenous folk left right

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and centre they came with.
All this technology.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And then they tried to, then

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they tried to breed them out.
They would steal their children.

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And yeah, so there was a big
thing called the Stolen

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Generation where they would
actually steal children in this.

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And we're only talking 70 years
ago, 80 years ago this is this

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is relatively recent.
The stolen, the stolen

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generation, that's what you call
it, yes, I mean, I mean.

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And it was literally the
government.

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The government would go in and
they would take Indigenous

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children an attempt to
assimilate them into white

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people's culture and kind of
breed them out.

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They weren't they, they, they
fought for us in the World War,

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in World War 2, but they weren't
actually classified as citizens.

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I think it was until the 70s,
which for me is just, you know,

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I'm a, I'm a child of the 70s.
To me, that is so just.

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It's so foreign to me that that
would even be a thing.

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Agreed.
Yeah, we.

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Come from the same. 70s yeah, we
come from the 70s too.

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We're all the same age.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's crazy, man.
The I, I, I mean just, I mean,

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it sounds cheesy, but the stolen
generation that's that's kind of

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that's a, that's a unique way to
phrase something if.

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We didn't go for a pen and paper
there.

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I'd be real surprised.
Yeah, the Stolen Generation.

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I like that too.
Yeah, yeah.

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So.
And the, you know, the, the, the

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Prime Minister, I think it was
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there, the, the Prime Minister
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50 years for the government to
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apology.
And governments now are still in

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the process of trying to make
reparations or come to

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agreements on reparations
because there's still people

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alive now from the from the
stolen generation.

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And it did.
And it's caused multi

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generational trauma.
Oh, I don't, yeah, I could see

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that because it's it's no
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people come over.
I'm sure you've heard the

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nonsense of our border wars and
stuff with especially in

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Arizona, like the border wars in
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prevalent than than it is in
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I think.
I don't know why, but but you've

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probably heard stories of how
when they come across they

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separating the parents and the
kids and things like that.

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And you know, so I can't imagine
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I can't imagine being separated
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So trauma for sure.
I could see how that would have

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a lasting effect generationally,
right?

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Because it's just, you know.
That's why I agree with what

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Peter said.
And I always say I'm on team

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people, right?
The whole borders and races, and

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we're all on this one planet
together, and we all have the

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same pool of resources, right?
Why can't we just get along, be

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cool with each other, do a
podcast, meet a guy like Peter,

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have a good time.
You know, I don't understand why

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that's so hard.
If you don't like somebody,

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don't talk to him.
What does a imaginary line have

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to do with anything?
Nothing except for Les Messman's

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office in WKRP.
So so Peter, I like your smile.

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So you know WKRP.
Did WKRP make it to Australia?

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I'll say yes.
Right on and.

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Not OK.
OK, well, it was a it was a

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sitcom in this in, in the 70s
that was, was, was focused on a

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radio station.
And one of the, one of the

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characters was Les Nessman, who
was a news reporter.

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And he always went in an office,
but he wasn't allowed to have an

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office.
So he took duct tape basically,

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and duct tape a space on the
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And he wouldn't mind himself
going in and shutting his door,

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you know, and somebody just
walked past line, like, wait a

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minute, Peter, you have to knock
and then you'd back up and, you

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know, just they're famous.
The, the most famous scene they

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have is is on Thanksgiving, the,
the, the WKRP Turkey drop.

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So Les Nessman's on the ground
watching the helicopter above

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pushing out the turkeys and
everybody thought they could fly

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and they didn't fly.
So it was raining turkeys and

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it's just a whole bunch of chaos
and the mob, you know, and the

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last, the last gimmick in the,
of the show that episode was was

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Mr. Carlson, the station manager
standing there with Herb

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Tarlich.
The sales guy is like, you know,

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it's God is my witness.
I thought turkeys could fly.

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It was one of the funniest
American sitcoms that we ever.

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Produced.
Yeah, it was great, all the

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different.
We get, we get most of the

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American sitcoms over here.
We are very, very heavily

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influenced by American culture.
So movies as well.

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Sorry, Chris.
No, you're good it.

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Was a good question.
Movies as well.

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Absolutely.
Yeah, OK.

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So from from your guys's
standpoint, since you since we

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did went to the media thing, do
you guys have like like

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obviously Mel Gibson came out of
Australia, the Mad Max trilogy,

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original Mad Max trilogy, not
the one, I don't know about the

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ones George Mosery doing, but
the original ones were all based

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in Australia, correct?
That's correct, yes.

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Yeah.
So do you have your own, I don't

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know how to like, do you have
your own Hollywood, for lack of

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a better question, like in in
Australia where you produce your

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own movies and TV shows and that
kind of stuff.

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Yeah.
And when, when Trump recently

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announced that a tariff on
movies produced outside of

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Australia, sorry, outside of
America, that could cost us

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hundreds and hundreds of
millions of dollars.

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The Gold Coast is probably our
number one thing.

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Most of the Pirates of the
Caribbean were filmed in

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Australia.
Really.

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I did not know that.
I didn't know that either.

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The Matrix.
The Matrix.

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The Matrix was filmed in
Australia.

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Really.
A few of them, Yeah.

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The Marvels have input.
King Kong though, the Kong

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versus gorilla versus Kong that
was made in Australia.

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So there's a huge Australian
thing and and especially in a

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special.
Effect.

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I know that that's crazy that's
good to know So and you've been

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you've you 20 years in as a
first responder basically right

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Yeah.
So I've been a.

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Paramedic for 20 years.
OK, so give.

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Us a little insight.
Over here, our system's slightly

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different to yours.
Yeah, all our, we have state

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based ambulance services and
that's pretty much it.

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So and they're not, they're not
ingrained with fire departments

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or anything like that.
So, you know, and so to give it

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to and we, we are a very large,
very large state.

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So I, I used to work as a single
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So I would be on call for what I
would do 8 days on six days off

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with office hours and then be on
call for the rest of the rest of

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the time.
So you're pretty much on call

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for 24 hours a day for 8 days
and you are responding on your

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own.
So you may get in some regions

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or areas, you might have some
volunteer first responders who

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will drive your vehicle so that
you can treat in the back.

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But yeah, sometimes it can take,
you know, it can be 8090

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kilometres down country roads to
get to a place.

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You know, it can take an hour,
hour and a half to get somewhere

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and then it can take an hour and
a half to get back to a very,

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you know, something that's very
much a health clinic rather than

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a hospital.
And then often they have to get

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flown via Royal Flying Doctors
Service to to a major tertiary

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hospital.
So that sounds like a like a a

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potential crisis turning into
death If if it's something.

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That's a three hour round trip.
Right, just to get to a health

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clinic.
And then if they're severe like

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let's let's let's let here's so
you see if you can answer this.

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I'm sure you can.
So somebody's having a heart

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attack, right?
So they call you up, you're 90

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minutes away.
You get there, they're still

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alive.
Then you do what you can to

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stabilize them, I would assume,
right?

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And then you drive them back to
90 minutes.

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And then if they're still alive
after that three hour total

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window plus whatever time they
were suffering from this.

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That's somebody who who would
then be flown to a actual

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hospital.
Yeah.

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So we, we do carry drugs, clot
busting drugs that we are able

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to give under circumstances that
can clear it.

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I mean they're a high risk drug.
We call it Draino for Draino for

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the heart.
I don't know if you guys have

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Draino but it basically.
Dissolves.

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Everything heart Draino.
Yep, but the problem with with

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heart draino is that if you've
got a clot in your brain that is

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kept you alive, it busts that
too.

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Oh.
Oh, so you know, it's one of

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those cost versus benefit
things.

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You know, you're gonna die from
a heart attack if you don't get

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it, but it can, the actual drug
can cause the death of people as

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well.
So, you know, and that and, and

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it's not a drug given lightly.
Sure, we have doctors.

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We have doctors on call for US
24 hours a day nowadays that we

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can ring up and get advice.
Telehealth is obviously improved

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massively.
So there's a lot of things that

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can be done.
Now if we're going to a job

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that, you know, it also depends
if we're in reach of a

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helicopter whether or not they
can come.

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You know, they, they only have a
certain range and often we're

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outside of that range.
So, and now the, the new thing

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that they're looking at
unofficially is drones, using

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drones to be able to take
product to people to, to scenes

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that might be able to help them
get, you know, how you could get

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there and get a drug into them
before we get there using, using

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telehealth and talking to
doctors and that sort of thing.

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So there there's a lot of
technology that's going to help

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in the in the future.
That's cool.

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And that's just because it's
because you're that's just

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because all your cities are so
spread out.

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That's like and it's it's so, so
every specific city doesn't have

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those services.
It's just a statewide thing like

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you referenced.
So then all of this parts from

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the same location.
Yes, yeah.

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So each, each so, So for
example, I, I worked for the

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Queensland Ambulance Service and
there was 4000 paramedics spread

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out somewhere.
Oh Jesus.

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I don't even, I don't know what
to compare that to, but it's

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huge.
Like I said it to go from the

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bottom of the state to the tip
of the state's probably about a

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25 hour drive.
Wow.

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OK, yeah, that's crazy.
To give you an idea, Chris,

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because I know you asked
earlier, yeah, the United States

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is only slightly larger than
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Oh, that's how big Australia is.
Why so when he's?

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Talking.
So so.

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Now it's.
Really.

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The United States into about 6-6
states.

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Oh, OK.
Wow, wow.

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So now you can imagine how
Western.

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Australia is about 1/3 the size
is 1/3 of the country.

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OK.
Now you can imagine how long it

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takes to get somewhere because
you know how long it takes to

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get from one state to the next.
You'd have to go 6 states to the

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next state.
Wow, that's insane.

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See Jake, Jake, my son's a
Marine and he was when he was

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stationed in Japan, he actually
got an opportunity to be doing

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the Navy for about was supposed
to be 3 months and it being nine

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months.
But during that time they they

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had, I guess you call it ported
in Australia.

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So he actually got to see
Australia, which is cool.

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Of course she doesn't like share
all the fun stuff with us.

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Just that, you know, he had, he
had a Vegemite sandwich that it

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was disgusting.
Yeah, I've never, I've never

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been able to get into Vegemite.
And then he had the Fosters,

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which is, you know, Americans
look at Fosters as Australian

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for beer might, right?
And the only people that drink

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fosters is people that aren't
Australian.

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That's marketing genius right
there you walk into that's how

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you can tell right we'll.
Go overseas and they'll be hard.

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You want to fosters?
It's like I don't drink that

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shit at home, why would I?
Drink it here.

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So the brilliance of that, you
know, when a tourist is in town,

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right, because they walk into
Washington.

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I like a Fosters please and
everybody in the barges.

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Four stops.
OK.

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That's my question.
It's funny because we, I live in

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a, in a, so Townsville where I
live is a big Garrison town.

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We've got a huge Army base up
here.

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I think it's, it's got about I
think 70,000 or something.

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Wow, no, no, that, that, no,
that's way bigger because I

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think it's only 70,000 Australia
wide.

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But there's a big exercise going
on up here at the moment and we

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went to, so rugby league is
probably the big sport over

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here.
And we went to a cow always

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game.
We've got the North Queensland

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Cowboys, who's our team up here.
And we were walking there the

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other day on Saturday night and
in front of us a guy turned

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around.
He said, are you guys, do you

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guys support the Tigers who we
were playing and and I said, you

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know, I wouldn't be wearing this
shirt if I did.

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He'd go And then he started
talking and he was American.

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He was over here on exercise.
And yeah, there was a bunch of

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them going to going to the rugby
league game for imagine the

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first time.
Now Speaking of rugby, because

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I, I, I spy with my little eye
behind you, there's, I don't

450
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want to say footballs because I
don't think that's what they're

451
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,640
called in rugby, right?
Actually in a in a in Australia

452
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,360
it is called football.
I call it football.

453
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760
OK, so you have two footballs
behind you then?

454
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,360
I'm assuming are from rugby so
expand.

455
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,440
OK, so so there's two games,
there's rugby union and rugby

456
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,040
league.
Rugby union is is generally

457
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,160
called rugby and league is
generally called footy.

458
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,120
They are slightly different
games.

459
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:49,360
League has league has 13 people
on the field at once, where like

460
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:54,360
13 people in a team, whereas
union has 15 and union union has

461
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,600
a a much more sort of upper
class history compared to

462
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,160
league.
League was the you know, the

463
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,840
work, the workers or the lower
class game, But it's definitely

464
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,600
the on on the northern coast.
It's it's the biggest game and

465
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,800
in the in victory, Victoria and
the southern states, it's what's

466
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,280
called AFL or Australian rules
footy, football and AFL.

467
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Other people who don't like it
just call it aerial ping pong

468
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,200
because you just see it all
similar shape to this, just

469
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,640
going back and forth over a
field that's nearly 200 meters

470
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:28,960
long.
That's.

471
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,640
Awesome, So so so do you play
rugby?

472
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,640
No, I, I was a soccer player
coming from England.

473
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,280
So I, I played one game in my
life, didn't know where to

474
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480
stand, didn't know what to do.
I was just told I, I think I was

475
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,600
13 or 12.
And they just said you're big,

476
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,680
you're in the front row and
yeah, go do stuff.

477
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,360
I just didn't have a clue what I
was doing.

478
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:02,600
So and, and it's for those that
haven't seen rugby league, we

479
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,640
don't wear any protection.
No, some somewhere a little

480
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840
headgear.
And that's purely to stop cuts.

481
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,360
It doesn't stop any concussions
or anything like that.

482
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,880
It it stops lacerations.
So yeah, it's a pretty brutal

483
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,480
sport, but I love watching it.
Oh yeah, I've I've.

484
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Seen a lot of.
It too.

485
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Yeah, it's definitely it's yeah,
you know, it.

486
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,880
It makes the NFL that in, in in
America look like, you know,

487
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840
even more Patsy Cake, flag
football.

488
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,920
Oh, don't, don't hit me.
Oh, I'm a quarterback.

489
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Don't touch me.
Don't you know, like we should

490
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320
send all the American football?
So for the last couple of years

491
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,400
and including next year, the
NRL, which is the main, the main

492
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,240
body like your NFL, the NRL,
they, they actually do the

493
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,120
season launch in Vegas and they
take, they do a couple of games

494
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,400
over in Vegas in February.
Right on.

495
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,520
OK, let me ask you this because
I've been sitting here trying to

496
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,360
rack my brain and I know you're
going to cringe if unless you're

497
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,840
a fan of their band.
Other than Men At Work, give me

498
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,600
a couple other Australian bands
that I'm overlooking because

499
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Chris and I have been musicians
midnight entire lives.

500
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Oh, midnight oil.
ACDC.

501
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,440
Oh yes, ACDC man.
Mike, you're going go to your

502
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,680
room.
Go to your room, Mike.

503
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,000
Just go to your room man.
Chris is going to finish the

504
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,680
rest of the podcast, ladies and
gentlemen.

505
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,040
In excess.
In Oh, I just loved in excess,

506
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Michael Hutchinson, Brilliant
man, Brilliant.

507
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,920
He was just like the the he kind
of like.

508
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,680
That man, I'm not.
Going to pay and I'm not

509
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040
comparing us to Michael
Hutchinsons intersex, but but

510
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Mike and I had that kind of same
vibe that Michael had with the

511
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480
the members of INXS where they
would come to him.

512
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Here's the song we put together.
Then Michael would open up his

513
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400
notebook and be like, OK, this
song fits perfectly.

514
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Here you go.
Done.

515
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
I'll I'll tell you real quick
how I got to get a.

516
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520
I thought you were going to say
you were into the erotic

517
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,120
asphyxiation.
No, not at all.

518
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,840
No, I'll tell you how I got to
be a fan of their band was when

519
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,920
I was in college.
I was trying to put a band

520
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,640
together just to have something
to do.

521
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,920
And the drummer in that band was
the biggest in excess fan I had

522
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280
ever met in my life.
And I just thought it was weird

523
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560
because we were forming a Hard
Rock band, right?

524
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,280
Yeah.
Until I started trying to learn

525
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760
their music and I was like, OK,
I get it now.

526
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,680
They had some of the coolest
beats and melodies and just the

527
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,280
musicianship along with his
songwriting, outstanding.

528
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,360
I I was like, OK, I get it now.
And Chris is right.

529
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
We had that same kind of
relationship where we all played

530
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,280
off each other.
Yeah.

531
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Yeah, we're very, very American
influenced in our in our music

532
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
as well now.
You guys ruled the Rock'n'roll

533
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,200
world, man.
ACDC.

534
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,960
How did I overlook that?
One I know that's that's

535
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
disappointing.
Like all of our all of our

536
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,120
viewers are like, wait, Mike's a
decision and he forgot what they

537
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,080
should do.
OK.

538
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,000
And we got we got Apple, right?
We have a really good habit of

539
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,880
if they're from New Zealand as
well, if they've if they've been

540
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,560
to Australia, we claim them as
ours.

541
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560
Where's where's New Zealand in
relation to Australia?

542
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,360
I'm terrible at geography's
better.

543
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,880
Just it's about a two hours
flight S to the sort of

544
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,280
southwest, so bottom right.
Yeah, OK.

545
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,560
So you, they're basically like,
they're our brothers and

546
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,080
sisters.
You know, we're very close bonds

547
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880
from what we call the Anzacs,
which is the Australian and New

548
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,040
Zealand Army Corps.
So Gallipoli and in World War

549
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,680
One and all that sort of stuff.
So we're, you know, that we, we,

550
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,000
we've got that relationship with
New Zealand where we all like to

551
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
give shit to each other.
We'd all die for each other.

552
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Right now, that's cool.
Now New Zealand, their claim to

553
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,360
fame is the Lord of the Rings
movies, right?

554
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Yep, that's where they were.
That's where they were made for

555
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,760
sure.
Them and sheep shagging, that's

556
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,880
what.
That's their other claim for

557
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,200
fame.
Gotcha.

558
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,920
So now you married, kids,
family.

559
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Yep.
Wife, two kids, the eldest is

560
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,120
22.
She just moved out with the

561
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,560
boyfriend a couple of weeks ago.
So big step.

562
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Yeah.
So yeah.

563
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800
And it's it's, it's been
difficult actually last couple

564
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,920
of years because I've been off
work.

565
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920
Like I said, I worked, I worked
away.

566
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,600
I did my week on week off.
And then, yeah, I got, excuse

567
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,480
me, I got attacked at work and
developed PTSD and I've been off

568
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,200
work for two years still.
Attacked at your paramedic job?

569
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Yeah, yeah.
I had a guy on ice attacked me,

570
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
a solo officer at 2:00 in the
morning, pitch black.

571
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,120
And yeah, he basically tried to
kill me.

572
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,480
And yeah, it was one of those.
But what it did is, is although

573
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,800
I wasn't physically hurt from
that attack, but we in first

574
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,400
responders and same as military,
you get really good at siloing

575
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,720
memories.
You know, you kind of deal with

576
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,440
it, put it to the back.
But what this did was basically

577
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,400
joined all those solos off and
let the lid open slightly.

578
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,400
So all these memories that you
thought you'd forgotten just

579
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,080
came back and then.
And then they come back at the

580
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,200
worst times.
Or just like, it could be

581
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,840
something on TV.
It can be geography, You know,

582
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,280
you can be driving past
somewhere.

583
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Yeah, I went to that.
And then you get these vivid

584
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,960
memories of a scene.
Most of the time they're

585
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,840
unpleasant.
We we see things that human

586
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,280
beings shouldn't see.
Yeah.

587
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,960
And and that's the nature of the
job we get.

588
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,480
We get into that knowing that
that's going to how it's going

589
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720
to be.
And but, but, but but before

590
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
you, before you go further.
But do you really get into it

591
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,000
knowing in your mind all the
absolutely death and the

592
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,160
structure you're going to see?
I don't.

593
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Think you could could?
Right.

594
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Or are you getting into it
because like, my son wants to be

595
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,720
a firefighter when he gets out
of the military service and, and

596
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,760
we look at that as he's such an
impact because he feels what

597
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,960
everybody else feels.
Yeah, look, I, I got into, I'll,

598
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,200
I'll tell you how I got into it.
I used to work at a cinema

599
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,400
complex, 16 screen cinema
complex and I was one of the GD

600
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,440
managers there and we used to
get a lot go wrong.

601
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120
There was all sorts of, you
know, there was seizures, heart

602
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,280
attacks, fights, stabbings,
believe it or not, a couple of

603
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760
suicides.
In a movie theatre.

604
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Yep, there we had people jump
off the building, we had people

605
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,640
hanging themselves in the
toilet.

606
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360
That's not and I used to frot
Oh.

607
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,960
So this is.
Routine like.

608
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,200
You're good, you're good.
This is routine.

609
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Like every weekend this is
happening.

610
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Or every night at the movie
theater?

611
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Or how often?
No, but it was, it was, it was

612
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,440
fairly rare, but it was enough
where I thrived on it.

613
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,480
I that's when I kind of stepped
up and and then it became

614
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680
between being a police officer
and being a being a paramedic.

615
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,120
And like I said over here, you,
you don't join the fire

616
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,640
department, you join as a
paramedic into an ambulance

617
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:09,639
service.
And yeah, I applied for the and

618
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,080
it and I joined when it was the
in service training.

619
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,239
So you just did your, all your
training in service through your

620
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,719
whoever your employer and then
did a deployment and and I loved

621
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,600
it.
I loved it.

622
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,040
I, I, I started working at Roma,
Roma Street, which is basically

623
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,600
in, in the heart, the CBD of
Brisbane.

624
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,760
So the heart of New York City,
for example, our equivalent.

625
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,280
So right smack bang in the
middle.

626
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,719
So really busy, really good
exposure to lots and lots of

627
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,199
different types of things,
especially drugs.

628
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,159
Yeah.
And then, and then from there,

629
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,159
I, I, I kind of went out West
and, and did a relief stint in a

630
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,600
smaller place and realized that,
you know, you can get a much

631
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920
better work life balance when
you go out West.

632
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Gotcha.
Yeah, See the the first

633
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,000
responders here from what I
understand and what I know it's

634
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,760
it's typically a 48 on and like
72 off like you're not.

635
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,760
But you, you little tutor
earlier.

636
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,080
If you're just joining us, this
is Peter.

637
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,640
We're talking to him.
He's from Australia.

638
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,800
I spent 20 years as a first
responder and his typical work

639
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520
schedule was 8 days on and six
days off to where he was

640
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840
consistently on call for 8
consecutive days office hours.

641
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,600
So because of that, because that
kind of like, wow, that's a lot.

642
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,800
What would be a typical day for
you during those eight days

643
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,600
being being on?
So actually though, it was a

644
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,280
really good time when I when I
was there.

645
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,480
So let's let's for example, say
Bach Alden, which was a town of

646
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,920
about 1500 people.
You can Google it.

647
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,560
It's six hours from Rockhampton.
Some people are aware of Long

648
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Reach.
I've heard of Long Reach as an

649
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,360
Outback place and it's about an
hour an hour from there.

650
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,360
It in those eight days, one
might do 10 actual jobs where

651
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,960
you're going to patients, so
it's not overly busy.

652
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,080
There are others that you'd be
doing 40 in that stint.

653
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,480
It really varies, but but on an
average I'd do about 10.

654
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,600
I think my busiest week would
have been in those eight days

655
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,920
would have been maybe 30-40
jobs, and my quietest would have

656
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,560
been one.
You get to take your kid to

657
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200
school, you get to pick them up
from school, you get to go and

658
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
do whatever as long as your
phone's on, you drive an

659
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600
ambulance everywhere, you're
always available.

660
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440
You can pretty much do whatever
you want to do.

661
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,840
You know, we could go swimming.
You could do.

662
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,720
So if I went for a swim, if we
went to the local council pool,

663
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,440
I'd give the pool operator my
phone and if it rang, they, they

664
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640
would answer it and come over
and give it to me.

665
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,360
And then I'd get out and I'd go
to a job.

666
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,480
And depending on the job is
whether I turned out with with

667
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,320
dripping wet shorts or or got
dried and changed and you know.

668
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,280
So your company card was the
ambulance?

669
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Absolutely.
Yep, my kids were.

670
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,320
Crazy.
With me taking them to school in

671
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,080
an ambulance in a fully fledged.
Ambulance.

672
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Oh, that's fun.
Did they get the novel Siren on

673
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,560
every day?
Yep, they didn't They they were

674
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,920
so blase about it.
So when we moved to Townsville

675
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,280
with, you know, with the kindies
and stuff where you often take

676
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,920
the ambulance into kindy visits
and that type of thing, they

677
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,800
just, they didn't care.
Like they all the other kids

678
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,720
that thought it was awesome and
they were like, yeah, that's

679
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,440
just a normal vehicle.
It's like I.

680
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,920
Killed my dad drives.
Yeah, yeah.

681
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,040
That's really.
Cool.

682
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,720
So in Australia the the steering
wheels on the on the right side

683
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,080
of the vehicle, right do you
guys?

684
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Yeah, we and we drive.
We drive on the left.

685
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,960
OK, that's what I say.
So it's it's kind of like

686
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
England, which is makes sense
because England settled

687
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920
Australia, correct?
Yep.

688
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,680
That's right.
That's right.

689
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,920
And and yeah, we use the metric
system.

690
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,880
I think you guys are pretty much
the only ones that.

691
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,840
You're the only ones that don't,
man.

692
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Let me let me give you a piece
of history.

693
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,640
I'm not.
Peter might know this.

694
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,360
Chris, this is going to blow
your mind.

695
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,760
OK, OK.
Do you know why they drive on

696
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160
the left hand side of the road?
To get there faster.

697
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,000
No, OK, because when people
wrote, All right, I'm going to

698
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,120
teach everybody something here.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's

699
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,000
history with Mike.
Because when people rode horses,

700
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,880
only 2% of the population is
left-handed.

701
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,280
So you wanted your sword hand,
You wanted to be on the left

702
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,960
hand side, so the people coming
at you were at your sword hand,

703
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Yes.
Interesting.

704
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,800
By the time we got to America,
we were like, whatever, fuck

705
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,120
that, we're going to do it our
own way.

706
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
I'm not sure how that happened
because we were still riding

707
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
horses, but.
Speaking of lefties, little

708
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560
man's left-handed.
My grandson, which we're like,

709
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,000
he's 2.
Percent of the population.

710
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Which explains why he hated
baseball because we were trying

711
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,320
to think he's right-handed, that
he hated football because he was

712
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
left-handed.
And we were, you know, and then

713
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480
when he was Nikki's, my wife's a
teacher, Peter, so she works

714
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,640
with him on stuff.
And about a month and a half

715
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
ago, we gave him something to
write and he was struggling with

716
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,960
the right hand and then came
back till later picked it up

717
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,080
with his left hand.
It was like, what?

718
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,400
What is this?
And it's 10%.

719
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,800
He's left-handed, so it's crazy.
That's a big difference between

720
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040
2:00 and 10:00, yeah.
Huge, man.

721
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,600
I'm 2%.
I have green eyes, so I knew it

722
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,680
was one or the other.
Yeah.

723
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,120
It's only 2% of the population
have green eyes.

724
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Yeah.
What about you, Peter?

725
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,040
What color are your eyes?
Mine are like a brownie Hazel.

726
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Brownie Hazel.
OK.

727
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,280
What's the, what's the
percentage of that one, Mike?

728
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Very common I'm I'm
technologically advanced, I got

729
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,160
green eyes, and I'm allergic to
milk.

730
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,480
There you go.
So here's another fun question,

731
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,560
and this is this.
Is this this stupid American

732
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
enemy?
Did Outback Steakhouse originate

733
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,840
from Australia or is that just
an American made-up nonsense?

734
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,640
I.
Think it's I think it's American

735
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,120
made-up nonsense.
Yeah, but I, I don't know it's

736
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,440
the name is familiar, but I
don't know if it's from movies,

737
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
you know, seeing it on movies or
whether I've actually seen it.

738
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,160
It's.
Probably movies.

739
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,000
What's your biggest?
Well, here's here's another fun

740
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,320
fact that you guys probably
don't know.

741
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,840
So you guys have Burger King
over here and when they when

742
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,640
they brought it over, that name
was taken already.

743
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,320
So our Burger King is called
Hungry Jacks.

744
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Hungry Jacks.
I did not know that.

745
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,840
Now let's talk food.
So like American food's

746
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,720
terrible.
Like I just learned that Ritz

747
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,960
crackers are one of the worst
things you can put in your body.

748
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,800
And I've, I've ingested Ritz
crackers since I was like 5

749
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,080
years old.
So my wife and I are about a

750
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,920
month and now we've gotten rid
of all the bad starches, all the

751
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,880
breads, all the enriched flowers
and things like that.

752
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,440
Sunday we did decide what the
hell, let's have some pizza and,

753
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,200
and like just been paying for it
for days with the inflammation

754
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,480
and the spine and all that kind
of jazz.

755
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,200
So it's like, OK, definitely
can't go back to this at all.

756
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,720
So the food in Australia is, I
mean, you've never probably been

757
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,120
to America, which you probably
can't, can't compare the two.

758
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,840
But but we've heard Mike and I
have heard from people we've

759
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,320
been on and the things that he
watches and listens to podcast

760
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,880
wise, as do I, that American
food is so terrible.

761
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,040
But everybody else, everywhere
else in the world, the food is

762
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,760
so much better because how it's
it's not processed like we

763
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,200
process food and put all the
nonsense and shit in it is that

764
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,600
is that I mean.
Yeah.

765
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Do you guys ban all the like
dyes?

766
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,560
And I would love to say I.
Would love to say yes, but no,

767
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,400
no, we, we, yeah, our diet is,
is very poor as well.

768
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,840
Diabetes is on the way up and
all that sort of stuff.

769
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,200
We, we are very, we are very
mishmashed with different

770
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,480
cultures.
We're, we're a very

771
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,240
multicultural country.
So we do have a lot of Asian

772
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,800
influences and that sort of
thing.

773
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,240
So our food is a bit of
everything and there are,

774
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,200
there's a lot of indigenous
Tucker, what they call the, the

775
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,800
slang for food over here is
Tucker.

776
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,920
There's a lot of Indigenous
Tucker that happens.

777
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,520
And there's more and more
restaurants that are

778
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,120
specializing in that, where
they'll use berries and stuff

779
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,480
grown in places that, you know,
you don't go to the supermarket

780
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,960
and buy these sort sort of
things.

781
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080
So yeah, explain what that is.
What is Tucker?

782
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,400
Tucker's just food.
Tucker's just, we're a, we're a

783
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,600
mad country of lingo.
Everything is shortened or has a

784
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,560
has a, has a lingo for it.
So afternoon is arvo, arvo you.

785
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,720
Know like a.
Petrol station or a gas station

786
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,600
that you call them.
We call it a servo A.

787
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,400
Servo OK if I look like BBQ with
Barbie.

788
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,160
Yep.
So that's true American.

789
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,920
Barbecue is very much
infiltrating over here.

790
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,360
It's becoming big.
Smoking meat, that type of

791
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,840
thing.
That's that's becoming quite a

792
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,640
big scene.
You know, all the stuff that

793
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,480
used to be cheap is no longer
cheap.

794
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,360
Now.
Used to be able to get all your

795
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200
cheap cuts, yeah.
Now, do you guys eat kangaroo?

796
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Like, is that a delicacy?
Yes, OK, yes and it's.

797
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Actually one of the leanest,
highest protein meats you can

798
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,520
get.
Really.

799
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,120
It is extremely good for you.
It's a very strong flavor and

800
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,320
it's quite gamey.
There is a lot of people that

801
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,280
don't like it.
We make most of it when we do a

802
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,480
bolognaise.
We make it with generally with

803
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,040
kangaroo mints.
It's lower fat.

804
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Yeah, it's got like 1% fat.
So now that's something you

805
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,920
could buy at like the
supermarket there.

806
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Yeah, it's it's it probably
takes up 1% of the entire meat

807
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
department compared to your
chicken and lamb and that sort

808
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,000
of thing.
So it's not common.

809
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Yeah, it's it's one of those.
I think we're the only country

810
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,440
that eats the food that's on our
coat of arms.

811
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,000
We're not allowed to even touch
the American eagle.

812
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,720
Like if you like, if you if you
have a feather in Alaska and you

813
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,880
pick it up and it's an eagle
feather and you try to go home

814
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,120
with it, you get shut down like
it's that well protected animal.

815
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,120
So yeah, we wouldn't yeah, we
wouldn't be eating the American

816
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,480
eagle.
But so so because you guys.

817
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,360
Savage.
Yeah, so because you guys can

818
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,920
eat the Kangaroos.
If you have a kangaroo in your

819
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960
backyard, you can you just shoot
it, skin it and process it and

820
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120
have it for dinner.
They don't have a gun.

821
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,520
No, there are.
You you need.

822
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,240
To do all that sort of stuff.
And there's a lot of, they do

823
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,240
have parasite issues.
A lot of most, most Kangaroos

824
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,000
die in suburbia from getting hit
by cars.

825
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,160
They're some of the dumbest
animals.

826
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,520
You know, they'll, they'll be
laying, they'll be standing next

827
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,360
to 20 of their dead mates and
they'll be like, and then

828
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,240
they'll try and run in front of
you, but then they'll stop, try

829
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,360
and turn around, but they'll
skid and then you'll hit them.

830
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
And then you do get a lot of
people that when they do hit a

831
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,120
kangaroo, they carry their, they
carry their young, their joeys

832
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640
in their pouches.
And often if they're if they're

833
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600
females, they'll often have a
Joey.

834
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,960
They nearly always have a Joey
in their pouch.

835
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,560
And then they keep one kind of
incubated until that one moves

836
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,240
out really they'll start growing
this next one.

837
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,160
Yeah, that that's my
understanding.

838
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,760
I'm not any any in any way.
We're going to hold you to that.

839
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,280
You heard it here first from
Peter in Australia.

840
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,760
OK, Kangaroos incubate.
Why?

841
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,240
They have one growing and then
that one leaves and one pops

842
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:26,960
back up.
That one leaves, pops back up.

843
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,440
It's a non ending cycle, like
Jack rabbits in the desert.

844
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440
They are huge when they are in
the in the pouch.

845
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Like they'll stay in their pouch
until their legs and their arms

846
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,720
don't fit.
Wow.

847
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,120
It's yeah, you can, you can have
it.

848
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Have a look at it.
And and some, some Kangaroos are

849
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,000
massive and a lot of them are
very small.

850
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,720
So the average one that you'll
see on the side of the road

851
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:56,040
nowadays, what we call
Wallabies, they're a smaller

852
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,840
thing.
They might be in your in your

853
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,360
lingo.
Foot, foot and 1/2.

854
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,240
High.
Oh, OK.

855
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,360
Or you can get red.
Red Kangaroos are probably

856
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,160
standing up 910 feet high.
Wow.

857
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,560
They'll kick your ass.
Wow.

858
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,440
Shit, yeah.
They're the ones that you see.

859
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,360
They look like they've been
doing steroids.

860
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,160
I don't know if you've seen it,
where they come across their

861
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,720
arms.
They got pecks bigger than Arnie

862
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:24,560
Schwarzenegger and it's.
I had to look them up on

863
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,960
YouTube.
I listened to a podcast where

864
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,640
they were talking about these
Kangaroos.

865
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,400
A guy had taken a trip to the
Outback and he said, you can't

866
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,440
even imagine.
You have to see it with your own

867
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
eyes.
So I looked it up on YouTube and

868
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,760
I know it doesn't do it, you
know, give you the perspective.

869
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,960
But Amanda, they're ripped.
That's crazy.

870
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,200
They.
Look like they've been lifting

871
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,000
weights for 10 years.
So they look like.

872
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,800
They've been doing steroids.
They they sit on their back tail

873
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,800
and they just stand up and it's
all about just intimidation.

874
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,440
That's how they they win their
fights.

875
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Let's talk animals.
Let's talk species and insects

876
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,800
and stuff because over here we
we.

877
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,200
I got to know about the koala
bear.

878
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Yeah, well, we hear, we hear, we
hear a lot of things and I just

879
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,000
want to like we've heard this
like I saw something on Facebook

880
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,480
within the last month where it
was spider season in Australia

881
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,320
and there's and face, right.
And they cause the caption was,

882
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,360
no, it's not snow.
It's spider season in Australia.

883
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
And it it looked like blankets
of snow, but it was webs.

884
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,360
But because AI is what it is
now.

885
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,280
Is that legit or is that
made-up?

886
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,200
That's legit.
But I don't know if it's

887
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Australian.
I've seen that one and I don't

888
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
know if it's Australian.
I thought that might have been

889
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,760
in some cotton fields or
something.

890
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,600
I can't remember.
I have seen that same, same

891
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,200
thing and I've seen it where
they they set it alight and all

892
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:46,640
the lot, all the the webs burn
up and yeah, I don't, I don't

893
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,920
think there is a spider season.
It's pretty much always spider

894
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,480
season.
There's.

895
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,000
OK, let me ask you this.
There's another famous meme that

896
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,520
has gone around Facebook
forever, Instagram as well,

897
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,560
where there's this gigantic, I
think it's a Huntsman spider

898
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,840
like the mother, and then
there's just a million babies

899
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,720
around her.
It's underneath a bed.

900
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,680
I think everybody's seen this
picture.

901
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,600
Is that legit?
Yes it is.

902
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Yes, it is.
I would burn that house down.

903
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,560
So, so let me tell you about my
first experience with a Huntsman

904
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,600
spiders because I I came from
England and we, we call, I don't

905
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,400
know what you guys call them
daddy long legs.

906
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,240
The really tiny ones with
cricket.

907
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,760
Yep, Yep.
So that was pretty much my my

908
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480
experience with spiders was
Daddy long legs and I came over

909
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,880
here and I've heard about these
Huntsman spiders and they jump.

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Oh my God.
So the first time I've got 2-2

911
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,200
to tell you about the first time
I ever saw one, we didn't know

912
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,480
how far they jumped, so I didn't
know if they jump across the

913
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
entire route or, you know, an
inch.

914
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,520
I got to know how far.
There's me and my dad.

915
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,040
There's me and my dad with a 14
foot fishing pole just kind of

916
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
prodding this thing, you know,
as brain blokes.

917
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,000
And yeah, they, they run.
They run everywhere.

918
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:12,360
They they do bite, but then
they're not venomous, OK, But

919
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,360
they do, they do hurt.
So this one time I was getting

920
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,080
out of the shower and I put on
my towel and I felt something on

921
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,440
the back.
Of my Oh my God.

922
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,240
Like just above the the towel
and I turned around and I had a

923
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,280
Huntsman on me and it no shit it
was the IT was the size of my

924
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,000
palm.
Oh my God.

925
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,960
Lift your palm.
Lift your.

926
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,000
Lift your palm up.
Lift your palm up so people can

927
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,480
see it.
Lift your palm up.

928
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,800
OK, OK, so it.
Was it was it would it would

929
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,040
have been two, maybe two 2 1/2
inches across. 2 1/2 inches

930
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,000
spider a hunt for spiders out
and it bit you.

931
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,600
Well, this thing, I felt every
leg and it walked.

932
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,600
It didn't run.
It walked into the middle of my

933
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,880
shoulder blades.
It stopped.

934
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,600
It turned around and it slowly
walked down.

935
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,920
Oh my God.
And I tell you what, when when

936
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,680
it reached the towel, the towel
went flying and I was running

937
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,760
around like an epileptic tail.
How old were you at this time,

938
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,960
12/13?
Probably 14 at that time, OK, I

939
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,240
was, I was almost ready to run,
to swim back to England.

940
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,240
OK, so Huntsman spiders are real
and they're 2 1/2 inches in

941
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,360
diameter.
Yeah, they can get bigger.

942
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,120
So I I was at a friend's
barbecue and we, we, there was a

943
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,640
large spider that went across
the table and he put a ice cream

944
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,840
container, an empty ice cream
container on the on top of it.

945
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,600
OK.
And all you could see was this

946
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,840
ice cream container lifting off
the ground as this spider

947
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,120
jumped.
You don't like?

948
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,840
Spiders, Peter.
No, I I'm not a fan or at all.

949
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,480
At all, and especially when
they're big enough to have a

950
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,040
conversation with you.
Yeah, and if they've got to get

951
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,000
up and brush their hair in the
morning and you can have eye,

952
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,960
eye contact, I'm just.
That's not right.

953
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560
It's not my thing.
And, and they're just prevalent

954
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,320
everywhere as well as just
certain parts of.

955
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Australia everywhere.
Another very, very everywhere.

956
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,960
And they're indoor.
They're an indoor spider, so you

957
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,840
also find them indoors the the
one.

958
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,480
But like I said, the good thing
about them is they're not,

959
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,680
they're not considered venomous.
The the funnel web and the red

960
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,560
back.
They're they're probably your

961
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,200
two that you worry about.
Don't forget your second

962
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Huntsman story.
I want to hear that.

963
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,000
Yeah, yeah.
You had two, you had two

964
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,960
Huntsman stories.
That was both of them, so one of

965
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,320
us was prodding it with the
fishing.

966
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

967
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,800
Climbing on, yeah, OK, but you
always check your shoes out and

968
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,640
that sort of thing before you
put them on.

969
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,840
So Chris is.
Familiar with that because

970
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,560
they're scorpions and scorpions.
Owner, right?

971
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,400
Right.
But.

972
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,440
We did the same thing.
Scorpions.

973
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,640
Over here as well, yeah.
And they're been, they're

974
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,120
bigger, right?
They're like 6 inches.

975
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,040
They're like a foot long.
You're scorpions.

976
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,640
Because everything seems to
masturize.

977
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,480
The only one I've seen, the only
one I've seen here was probably

978
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,560
about an inch.
It's long and it was in my inner

979
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,720
Landry.
I was just laying down watching

980
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,720
TV with my foot on the ground.
I was like lying on the couch,

981
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:11,960
foot on the ground.
And and my girlfriend at the

982
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,960
time, she just so casually
painted as a scorpion next to

983
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,600
your foot.
I'm like, what?

984
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,440
And then I had a look and it was
only shit myself because I'd

985
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,280
never seen one before.
Yeah, don't ever be that calm

986
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,680
again when you tell me that
woman.

987
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,720
Peter, Peter, honey, darling,
there's a scorpion down by your

988
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,840
foot.
I just wanted you to know.

989
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,400
Thank you, love.
Yeah, the red back spiders, the

990
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200
red back spiders are are are
venomous spider.

991
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,160
And they're like they're in the
populated areas where you live.

992
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:47,040
They are very much so they, they
kind of live in their webs are

993
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,320
just this messy kind of gooey
and they, they're often in

994
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,120
corners and, and areas that you
just kind of know where they're

995
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,760
going to be.
Now how big are they?

996
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,640
A large mile would be less than
a centimeter.

997
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,000
OK, oh still it's still, but
still, if it has a red back, you

998
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,600
want to kill it.
Yeah, we tend to leave them

999
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,560
because they, they kill other
pests.

1000
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,880
OK, so, and that's the thing,
you know, it's a, it's a bit of

1001
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,240
a delicate thing like
Huntsman's.

1002
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,240
I hate them with a passion, but
they kill a lot of the the flies

1003
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,640
and the mozzies and stuff like
that.

1004
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,240
So they all have all kind of
have a role to play.

1005
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,600
So we try, I try and live, live
and live.

1006
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,160
But you know, there's definitely
times when you're like, yeah,

1007
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,560
yeah, snakes are another big
issue there.

1008
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,800
We, I think we've got something
like 9 of the top 10 most

1009
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880
venomous snakes, venomous snakes
over here.

1010
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,360
OK so we have 2 1/2 to 3 inch
spiders that aren't venomous but

1011
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,440
they will bite you.
Then you have the red back

1012
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,440
spider which will kill you.
Then you have 9 out of the 10

1013
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,720
most venomous snakes in the
world in Australia.

1014
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,880
Yeah, pretty much anything over
here wants to kill you.

1015
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,560
OK, OK.
And Mike, you really want to go

1016
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,120
to Australia?
Oh, I'm reevaluating.

1017
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,840
Yeah.
Do they fumigate the hotels?

1018
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,200
Yeah, so.
If we go to the if we go to the

1019
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:16,880
beach here, OK, we actually have
netted off areas because they're

1020
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,440
you can choose what kills you.
If you go for a swim in the

1021
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,120
ocean, there's crocodiles,
there's sharks and there's

1022
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,120
jellyfish.
Don't you guys have the

1023
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,080
deadliest jellyfish?
Yeah, they box jellyfish, Yes.

1024
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,280
I watch a lot of nature
documentaries.

1025
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,040
Yeah, yeah.
So as paramedics, we carry the

1026
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:42,440
anti venom for boxed jellyfish.
It is an extremely painful,

1027
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,640
very, very deadly.
And what happens with them?

1028
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,840
And that's the one that a lot of
people hear about.

1029
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,840
Vinegar is used as the antidote.
So, So what vinegar does that

1030
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,160
most people don't realize
vinegar doesn't stop the pain or

1031
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,680
doesn't stop the venom.
That's all.

1032
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,160
It's not an antidote.
What it does is it neutralize

1033
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,880
neutralizes the tentacles that
are still on you from injecting

1034
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,840
more into you.
So myself you're getting.

1035
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,560
More in Venom.
Yeah, years.

1036
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,440
When I, when my son, I think was
7 or 8 years old, we went to

1037
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,520
Mexico with a whole, a whole
group of neighbors and we were,

1038
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,040
he and I were just kind of in
the in on the beach, in the

1039
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,560
waves.
The waves were coming up, you

1040
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,280
know, to my shins type thing.
He got a little deeper into the

1041
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,440
water, you know, and I was
following him and, and then it,

1042
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,960
it felt like electric, but it
felt I was equating it to just

1043
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,800
the sea salt hitting my shins,
right.

1044
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,120
OK, so then, so then my son, I'm
looking at him and he just has

1045
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,040
this look on his face and then
just starts screaming like, holy

1046
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,600
shit.
Like you think that Jaws is

1047
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,360
underneath him taking half his
body, right.

1048
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,360
And I reached down and grab him,
lift him up by underneath his

1049
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,280
armpits and just jellyfish had
wrapped around the core of his,

1050
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,840
his like from his chest down.
And he was just just blood

1051
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,040
curling, screaming that I
obviously pulled him out.

1052
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,160
And and then the the, the
Mexican police came down and

1053
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,720
like you said, vinegar.
So there's they got Windex and

1054
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,600
shit because they don't have
vinegar packets.

1055
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,080
So they're pouring Windex
because it's an American, it's

1056
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,360
an American resort.
So obviously they're like, you

1057
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,280
know, flies on.
So they're pouring all it's on.

1058
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,400
He's screaming.
I had one on my It was it was to

1059
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,280
the point that that it took him
years to go back in the ocean.

1060
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,400
It took him probably 6 or 7
hours just.

1061
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,160
I can't believe he ever.
Did drama of that?

1062
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,760
You know what I mean?
Like I won't, I don't.

1063
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,160
I just stepped on one and I'm
not crazy about going.

1064
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,720
No, and I'm saying I'm not a big
fan of the ocean.

1065
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,480
You like I'll, I'll sit on the
beach and watch it.

1066
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,560
You know, Nikki's got me to go
on cruises now where we're

1067
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,640
floating on top of it.
But I'm, I'm not, I'm not going

1068
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,720
to go see.
Now the difference is, you know,

1069
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:47,120
poor Jake, he had it way worse
than I did, but I still ended up

1070
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,280
with two holes in the bottom of
my foot for years.

1071
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Wow.
Like there were, they were just

1072
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,800
there.
It took forever for those things

1073
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,000
to go away.
But in Peter's case, we step on

1074
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,280
a box jellyfish and you and I
aren't tell if that happened to

1075
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,800
Jake in Australia, He's dead.
Yeah.

1076
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,560
Yeah, yeah, the.
Trouble with the box jellyfish

1077
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,960
is their tentacles.
Could be they can be sort of

1078
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,200
ten, I think they can be longer
than 10 feet.

1079
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,960
I think they can be 1520 feet
long.

1080
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,160
And yeah, so and yeah, there,
there's been quite a few deaths

1081
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,840
from, from those.
They just cause so much cardio

1082
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,200
respiratory issues and and pain
that and, and kids, kids die

1083
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,000
from that as well.
So, and then the other one, the

1084
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,320
other jellyfish that causes
issues is 1 called Irakanji.

1085
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,400
Irakanji is about the size of
your thumbnail, so it's really

1086
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,280
small and you won't actually
feel it sting you.

1087
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,080
But about half an hour later,
you develop what we call

1088
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,120
Irikangi syndrome, and it's a
pain like a parent never had it.

1089
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,120
I have a colleague who has had
it and says it's a pain like

1090
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,640
you've never felt.
It's a back pain that you can

1091
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,480
have as much fentanyl, morphine,
whatever you want.

1092
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,040
You can have as much of that as
you want.

1093
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,680
It won't touch the sides.
It needs magnesium.

1094
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,840
The magnesium is is the antidote
for that.

1095
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,360
So these little.
Tiny jellyfish are just floating

1096
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,080
along next to you and they just
latch on sting and you're out

1097
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520
there swimming, having a good
time, and this thing the size of

1098
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,120
your thumbnail just jacks you
up.

1099
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,680
And The thing is, you've got to
remember, jellyfish don't look

1100
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,800
for you.
You kind of.

1101
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,720
Have to be yeah, it's the tide
that takes them into you.

1102
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,800
So we we have conditions where
they won't let you in the water

1103
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560
and in the sting at what we call
the Stinger Nets.

1104
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,960
And up here from from November
to May, you're.

1105
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,840
Selling us on Australia, man.
Oh shit yeah you are meant to

1106
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,080
wear full body.
Suits when?

1107
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,360
You go in the water during
Stinger season because if they

1108
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,080
can't contact your skin they
don't sting you.

1109
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,000
OK, so my question is, why
doesn't the Department of

1110
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,840
Tourism?
For Australia, have all this

1111
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,400
listed as reasons come and come
to Australia if you can do like

1112
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,920
Fear Factor really should just
be Australia.

1113
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Remember the show Fear Factor?
It's Australia, the Australian

1114
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,320
version of Fear Factor.
In Australia we'll give you 2

1115
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,920
weeks for free.
Like, that's just insane.

1116
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,760
It's insanity.
So we've, we've, I guess we, we

1117
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,720
grow up with it.
So it's such a.

1118
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,640
Normal part of life, you know,
and, and most of the time when

1119
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,680
people are taken by crocodiles
or when you know, you're in

1120
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:29,680
their territory, crocodiles
generally they're stalkers so

1121
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,120
that you've generally done
something probably not so smart

1122
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,680
to get taken by a crocodile.
And we get big Crocs, like 5

1123
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,000
metres long.
I've, I've seen many myself.

1124
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200
I, I, I'm an avid fisherman,
love fishing and you see

1125
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,280
crocodiles all the time.
You just stay away from, you

1126
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,200
know, you can see where they're
going to be.

1127
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,320
You don't fish on the bank and
you, you, you know, you go past

1128
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,480
on the boat and people will be
waist deep throwing A and you're

1129
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,240
like, you are just mad now.
So boat you're talking, is it a

1130
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,280
motorized boat or you're just
like?

1131
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,040
In a rowboat?
No.

1132
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,120
A motorized boat.
I've got what we call.

1133
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,120
A tinny yeah.
So 100 horsepower on the back.

1134
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,680
Okay, Kind of like what
Gilligan's Allen had S s minnow

1135
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,840
something like.
That you know, I'm just I'm just

1136
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,480
for relation of size because I
don't I don't you know, I just I

1137
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,840
like to I like to when people
were talking with the No 10 feet

1138
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,880
pretty small.
I liked I like to get Yeah

1139
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,400
mines.
About a 15 foot a.

1140
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,160
Mines about a 15 foot.
Hilligans Island boat would have

1141
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,480
been like a 3040 foot boat.
Yeah, well, I was, I was.

1142
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,880
So I was just trying to get a
bearing of the.

1143
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Size of it so people people can
understand because when people

1144
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,720
tell us their stories and stuff,
it's I like to paint a little

1145
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,080
bit more detailed pictures so
they get a well, let me put this

1146
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,400
into perspective for you.
OK, nobody.

1147
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Could imagine living in the
desert if they didn't have air

1148
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,120
conditioning at this point.
This is true history right?

1149
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,840
You live in a very inhospitable
climate for humanity.

1150
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,280
I do like you, absolutely.
Yes, absolutely.

1151
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,160
Yeah.
So last year we had a.

1152
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,480
We call them cyclones because.
And they actually go the

1153
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,520
different way to the Hurricanes,
so not just the toilets.

1154
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,000
So they spin the different way.
We had a cyclone last year that

1155
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,280
came relatively close to us.
OK, let me ask you this real

1156
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,040
quick because now I got to know
I'm.

1157
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,920
Confused already.
What's the difference between a

1158
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,520
cyclone and a typhoon?
Typhoon is.

1159
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,120
The Asian version.
Oh, it's the same thing, only

1160
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,360
the Asian version Cyclone.
Hurricanes and typhoons, I

1161
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,520
believe.
Are exactly the same thing, it's

1162
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,920
just where they are.
That's just my understanding as

1163
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,160
well.
OK so the Asian 1 you have sushi

1164
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,440
in.
It the Australian.

1165
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,320
One, you have spiders in it.
And then what was the third one?

1166
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,640
Yeah, you got Sharknado.
Sharknado.

1167
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,400
Sharknado.
Yeah.

1168
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,680
Gotcha.
Now we understand what's great

1169
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,280
we we don't get very many
tornadoes.

1170
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,280
Over here yeah, I don't either.
So the.

1171
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,200
Last year we had this cyclone.
Go over.

1172
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:59,680
And the heat following it was up
there with the worst it so it we

1173
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,800
deal in centigrade.
I don't know what this is in

1174
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Fahrenheit, but it was it was
about 45 with a feels like a 58.

1175
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,280
That would be a probably 1:20
to. 1:30 if yeah, see, see you

1176
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,480
looked at.
When July, August come around,

1177
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,840
we, we can be, you know, 120
like I, I lived through the

1178
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,880
summer where it was 128° with
the 1970 Camaro with no air

1179
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,560
condition because I just rolled
out the windows and went to

1180
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,960
work.
So, you know, we're not and I'm

1181
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,680
allowed to talk about the heat
because my wife believes you put

1182
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,720
voices on something that all of
a sudden it becomes true.

1183
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:37,040
So you can just Google Arizona
summers and you'll see what we

1184
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,280
deal with from a heat
standpoint.

1185
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,440
But so I can feel the 120° thing
because I've been there, done

1186
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,840
that.
Oh, it's the same as you.

1187
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,680
It's 136.
Feels like of 100.

1188
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:50,160
And 36 it feels like of a. 136
and the humidity is what kills

1189
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,760
you up here, right?
See and.

1190
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,800
We.
Have monsoon season, so when we

1191
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,000
have.
The monsoons, that's where

1192
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,000
humidity goes through the roof.
Like see Arizona is a dry heat,

1193
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,000
whereas the Midwest, like I, I
was born in Illinois.

1194
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,600
Mike lives in Illinois, so it
could be it could be 90° in

1195
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,920
Illinois with 90% humidity where
it could be 120° in Arizona with

1196
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,960
10% humidity.
I would take what I have opposed

1197
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,160
to what he has just because of
you know, and most people would.

1198
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,920
You can get in the shade and
cool down whereas when it's so

1199
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,680
humid.
It's just disgusting, right?

1200
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,320
Exactly.
It's kind of like Florida, the

1201
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,200
armpit of America.
Right.

1202
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,480
Yeah, that type of thing.
So we've been picking your brain

1203
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,600
all about Australian stuff.
Is there anything you want to

1204
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,280
pick our brains about being that
we're, you know, these these

1205
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,120
Americans?
Have you been to America?

1206
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,280
Yeah, no.
No me and the misses.

1207
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,560
Were actually talking about.
Next year maybe coming over for

1208
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,040
for two weeks and where would
you like to go?

1209
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,440
What's your ideal spot?
I'd like to do.

1210
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,000
Something in Florida.
I'd love to go to Cape

1211
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:53,000
Canaveral.
Cool Vegas and and probably LA

1212
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,120
just do a few days kind of
thing.

1213
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,200
OK, so if you if you do that,
I'd love to go to Everglades and

1214
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,520
I.
Want to do some giant carp on

1215
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,440
fishing?
Cool if you do if you do this

1216
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,160
and you.
Plan on coming to Vegas, give me

1217
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,480
a heads up and if schedules
align my Wi-Fi, I'll pop down

1218
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,800
and hang out for a day or two
and in the in the strip and that

1219
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,400
would be awesome.
You can lolligag.

1220
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,080
You can lolligag.
With two Americans.

1221
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,600
We did want to, we did want to
go to the the.

1222
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,240
NRL launch because.
My team's over there in

1223
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,960
February.
We did want to go and play that,

1224
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,520
go and watch that.
But my wife's a personal trainer

1225
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,880
and taking holidays early in the
year is probably is not the best

1226
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,600
thing because because that's
when that's when most of our

1227
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,120
people are, you know, doing a
New Year's resolutions and yeah,

1228
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,160
right.
If you if you get them off the

1229
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,480
treadmill, they ain't coming
back.

1230
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,040
Right, right, because.
Then by March, they're done.

1231
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,000
They realize, oh, this.
Is too hard for me, I don't want

1232
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,440
to.
So I guess going back to Chris's

1233
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,840
question since you've.
Never been here.

1234
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,160
Yeah, yeah.
The questions you have, yeah,

1235
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,800
Pick up.
Pick the Americans brains, yeah?

1236
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,720
Nothing's you know.
You know what?

1237
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,920
Probably the first 10 minutes of
most of our news bulletins are

1238
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,360
American based.
Really full of them.

1239
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,320
You guys have such a huge
influence on Australian culture.

1240
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,400
That's crazy.
Good and bad.

1241
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,880
Good and bad.
I did not know that.

1242
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,400
I didn't know that either.
Yeah.

1243
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,880
What's a good thing?
That what's a good thing that

1244
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,480
there are cultures done to
Australia.

1245
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,200
It's positives.
Oh look, I love the I love the

1246
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:28,360
movie culture and that sort of.
Thing I love the podcasting

1247
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,640
culture.
I've got really into podcasting.

1248
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,920
How about our music?
What kind of music are you into

1249
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,920
from America?
I'm really.

1250
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,120
Easy.
So my favorite band.

1251
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,680
Of all times, is Guns and Roses
cool?

1252
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,800
Yeah.
I'm going to the Metallica

1253
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,760
concert in November when they
come over.

1254
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,480
So I'm into, I'm into, I'm into
everything.

1255
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,360
Like I I appreciate, I
appreciate music, whether it's

1256
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360
so real quick, Peter, I don't
really give a shit.

1257
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Real.
Quick a blast from the past.

1258
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:01,840
Chris and I got.
To.

1259
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,560
See the Load Reload tour in 1998
together.

1260
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
That was his first Metallica
concert.

1261
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,320
I got to be there with him and
it, it was awesome.

1262
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,200
Him and his wife both.
That's awesome.

1263
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,160
Yeah.
I I I remember when I was.

1264
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,560
When I was 15, Guns and Roses
and Metallica did a joint

1265
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,280
concert over here.
Yeah, that was a world tour at

1266
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,880
Easton.
Creek at a place called Easton.

1267
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,880
Creek Raceway and I think there
was 150,000 people that went and

1268
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,880
I was about $40 short sort of
going and my mum wouldn't let me

1269
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,680
go.
Oh no.

1270
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,800
Oh, I was gutted.
I had to wait until I.

1271
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,880
Think 2000 and I think it was
like 2012 to see Guns and Roses

1272
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,920
live for the first time.
So that's my accuracy tour.

1273
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Yeah, that's when I took Jake.
That's when I took.

1274
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,880
Jake, you guys saw the same.
Tour.

1275
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,240
That's why I was asking.
Chris Yeah.

1276
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,720
And.
Like a 2500.

1277
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,040
Seat so.
Let me tell you a quick story,

1278
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,240
yeah.
Crazy how small the world is.

1279
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,200
Peter, the guy who was playing
guitar when you saw them, grew

1280
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,280
up 18 miles from me in a smaller
town.

1281
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,120
Really.
In the middle of a cornfield.

1282
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Yeah, that's so that guy
standing on.

1283
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,720
That stage playing for.
You.

1284
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,440
Started there.
That's just so I just those kind

1285
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,720
of things just make life crazy.
So I'll give you another

1286
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,760
example.
So I've got a podcast.

1287
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,040
As well.
And I had a, an English guy come

1288
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,720
on it.
He, he, he was a paramedic for

1289
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,560
50 years.
And I rang him the day before

1290
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,240
and he's one of those blokes
that makes you look at your life

1291
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,120
going, oh, I've achieved
nothing.

1292
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,400
You know, he's just an absolute
unbelievable person.

1293
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,760
I call, I call it the life
resume.

1294
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,760
I love it.
Yeah.

1295
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,600
So he.
He's Have you heard of the

1296
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,480
Glastonbury Festival?
The music festival, Yes.

1297
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,240
Yep, Yep.
So he started.

1298
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,240
And runs the.
Charity that does all the

1299
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:04,240
medical provisions for that.
Nice, so they have over 5000.

1300
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,640
People and.
Like intensivists, they have

1301
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:12,320
X-ray machines, you name it.
And they all, they all donate,

1302
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,560
donate their time for free.
And then the money that would go

1303
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,520
to them goes to this charity and
then they do medical stuff

1304
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,439
around the world.
But anyway, I rank him and, and

1305
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,880
he, he, I knew he was English,
but I was like, and, and we were

1306
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,200
on the phone via Facebook and I
said, oh, I said, so whereabouts

1307
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,439
are you from?
And he said, oh, a little town

1308
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,279
in the southwest of England
called Burnham on sea.

1309
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,640
I said, get the fuck out of
here.

1310
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,920
And he's like, what?
I'm like, oh, that's where I was

1311
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,960
bought up.
And it is a town.

1312
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,399
Of less than 5000 people.
Wow, that's half the 1000 town,

1313
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,359
Yeah.
Man, yeah, my home, my home town

1314
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:51,960
just gets in here for.
People like 2.

1315
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,520
Years ago.
So when he's giving.

1316
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,399
When he's giving all these.
Stories.

1317
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:00,359
It's like, holy shit, like that.
Yeah, it was it was really cool.

1318
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,240
Yeah.
He he went to Afghanistan and

1319
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,600
taught people how to de mine,
like first aid for people that

1320
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,439
do de mining and things like
that.

1321
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,160
It was just an extraordinary
man.

1322
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Like de mining from from like in
the.

1323
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,760
Mine like mining for things or
de mining from picking up land

1324
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,399
mines yeah landmines sorry is
that we just.

1325
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:22,640
Had a guy on.
Friday, That's what he did when

1326
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,040
he was in the.
Military, yeah.

1327
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,160
In the Army, he was I Yeah,
yeah.

1328
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,920
And the cool.
Thing that that that he

1329
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,359
explained to us, they have these
vehicles that are 30 feet off

1330
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:34,920
the ground and they have the the
it's like an angle of iron.

1331
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,359
Whatever the vehicle, it's like
V shaped at the bottom.

1332
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:40,120
Yeah, V shaped the bottom of it.
So if they drive over an IED and

1333
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,560
it goes off it.
Explodes.

1334
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,880
That way it deflects the IED
away from the vehicle.

1335
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,240
Yeah.
So the the ones that he.

1336
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,680
Was he, he was teaching they
were Afghanis that were.

1337
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,480
So he was saying there's 100
million mines in in Afghanistan.

1338
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,600
And what they used to do,
especially, especially the

1339
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,360
Russians, is they would throw
these little ones, these colored

1340
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,880
balls that had do you know what
Sycamore like what a Sycamore

1341
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,320
seed is?
They've got these.

1342
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,960
They're kind of like little
wings that come out so they

1343
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,720
spin.
Yeah.

1344
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,120
Yeah.
So it was, he said.

1345
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,680
They were colored.
And they were designed.

1346
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,280
For children to pick them up and
then they would explode.

1347
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,320
And they were designed to maim
children, not to kill them.

1348
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,760
So designed to blow their hands
off.

1349
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,240
That's terrible.
So there's A and they would they

1350
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,200
would throw 5. 1000 out of a
chopper.

1351
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,440
And they would go anywhere and
then these kids would pick them

1352
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:33,240
up.
So now there's 100 million of

1353
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,360
these things laying around.
So they're not buried.

1354
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,640
They could just be sitting in a
tree or or whatever.

1355
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,000
So they go around picking these
things up.

1356
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,120
They're not digging ones up.
They're actually picking these

1357
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,840
ones off the surface.
And they're, he was saying that

1358
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,680
all around Afghanistan,
especially in the especially in

1359
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,480
the mountain areas.
And he was saying, yeah, there's

1360
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,000
apparently 100 million of them.
And one in seven people in

1361
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,600
Afghanistan are missing a limb.
You got to remember the Russians

1362
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,960
were there for 10.
Solid years, and then we've been

1363
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080
there ever since.
But what's kind of ongoing what?

1364
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,120
What kind of mind?
Does it take to willingly

1365
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,800
construct something that you
know is going to be used for

1366
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,920
that?
And then you order somebody to

1367
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,040
fly ahead and just throw these
things out the side of the

1368
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,120
helicopter knowing like full
well knowing you're going to cut

1369
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,520
off children's arms and, and and
hands and just to be a Dick

1370
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,640
like.
And The thing is, it's not like

1371
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,120
there's an off switch where you
can say, okay, we're no longer.

1372
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,800
At war and no longer doing this
right.

1373
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,440
They're around forever, that's
what I'm saying.

1374
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,960
Like and even then back then.
They're doing it for the

1375
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,360
children, like the, like MM and
I are fascinated with serial

1376
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,760
killers, right?
And the biggest thing about

1377
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,680
serial killers, for the most
part, they have a code, right?

1378
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,400
No women, no children, right?
There's the there's the bad ones

1379
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,280
that do, but you just you draw a
line with the child does

1380
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,640
nothing.
Now, yes, the child can grow up

1381
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,680
to be Genghis Kong, right?
Or, or you know, Dahmer or you

1382
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,720
know, Donald Trump, right?
You know you're going to grow up

1383
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,560
to be somebody who's just just
malicious, right, and has just

1384
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,480
just a vile intention in the
world.

1385
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:09,000
But it's a child, man.
It's, I just, I can't, I just

1386
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,280
the way he explained it, which
which fits into that is, is.

1387
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,800
What better way is there to
cause terror than sure,

1388
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,560
potentially maimed children?
So as a, as a parent, your job

1389
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,600
is to protect your child.
And that's the way to sort of

1390
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,560
yeah, to keep them in line.
It's I would, yeah.

1391
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,960
It's I would say you have to
understand that that kind of.

1392
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,800
Evil exists in order to combat
it, right?

1393
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,760
You can't just bury your head in
the sand and say people aren't

1394
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,120
doing that.
It doesn't exist, right?

1395
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,320
You have to combat that kind of
stuff head on.

1396
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,320
And that's why I say I'm on team
people.

1397
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,160
Yeah, look, more people doing
the job that I did, doing the

1398
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,600
job that I did.
It was.

1399
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,120
I just remember even within the
first week, realizing how

1400
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,400
privileged my upbringing was.
I say that because it's not

1401
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,160
until you see how the other side
live.

1402
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:01,120
You know.
Obviously we, we deal with

1403
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,240
people in abject poverty or
drugs or or whatever, and you

1404
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,200
don't realize how well you are
off until you see that sort of

1405
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,480
stuff.
Correct.

1406
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,160
I, I, yeah, I would agree with
that.

1407
01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:15,680
They.
Say if you make over. $30,000 a

1408
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,040
year, you're in the.
Top 1% of the world, people

1409
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,400
forget that, right?
Yeah.

1410
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,480
Yeah.
And a lot of Americans don't

1411
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:24,520
understand that because they
always want more and more and

1412
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:25,720
more, right?
Right.

1413
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,560
We're a consumer driven nation.
Yeah.

1414
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,000
So that that was the one thing
that.

1415
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,000
When he said.
About asking you questions, the

1416
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,960
one thing I've never really
understood about you guys is

1417
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,600
your is your Healthcare is, is
just, it's just crazy.

1418
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,960
I believe it's the leading cause
of bankruptcy over there, and

1419
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,400
that it wasn't, it wasn't, it
wasn't, it wasn't bad.

1420
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,400
Like when my wife and I, my wife
and I've been my wife and I have

1421
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,160
been together for 30 years.
So we had our first child for

1422
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,880
like 10 bucks because back then
Blue Cross Blue Shield, there

1423
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,400
wasn't, it wasn't monopoly.
It wasn't a monopoly.

1424
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,000
It wasn't, it wasn't about the
money.

1425
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,600
It wasn't about the
pharmaceutical companies.

1426
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,400
You know, like you probably
heard how insanely expensive

1427
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,440
diabetes medication is and but
you can get Viagra for fucking

1428
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,680
$5.
Like really?

1429
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,440
There's a disconnect here, boys
and girls.

1430
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:18,040
OK, let's like, like I, I,
there's more and more stuff

1431
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,760
coming out now and again.
I don't know how much of his

1432
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,800
tied to AI and all that nonsense
because it's hard.

1433
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,680
It's hard to to discriminate
what's fact and fiction

1434
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,480
nowadays, but there's been stuff
being dropped that I've seen as

1435
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:31,080
of late that there's there's new
medicine, medicine they're

1436
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,000
they're discovering in other
parts of the world that they're

1437
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,560
there's one that I saw that I
want to say I don't, I'm not

1438
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,680
going to quote, I'm not going to
guess the country, but somebody

1439
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,440
developed something to where
it's, it can help prevent 14

1440
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:44,760
different various varieties of
cancer, right?

1441
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,640
Or that's true, I don't know.
But if you look at cancer in a

1442
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,480
whole, especially in the United
States, it's a multi $1,000,000

1443
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:57,400
a year industry and it's one of
the most, you know, given to

1444
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,720
from a charity standpoint, if
any other things.

1445
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,520
How long does it take to find a
cure, man?

1446
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,400
Like how many trillions of
dollars do you have to funnel

1447
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,120
into something?
There's no money.

1448
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,280
What's that cure?
But right so.

1449
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,320
What are we giving the money
for?

1450
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,840
That's the that's the insane.
Thing so, so I don't get the

1451
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,040
health care either, but it's
it's over the years it's

1452
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,440
completely evolved and it's it's
it's turned into more I think a

1453
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:21,160
more of a money making monopoly
than anything else because like

1454
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,800
my wife's a school teacher going
on her 20th year she pays her

1455
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,200
medical insurance.
So she's the sugar Mama medical

1456
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,360
right and it keeps going up
every year so they'll get

1457
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,120
they'll get like this 5% cost of
living raise, but the insurance

1458
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,520
will go up 12% So yeah, that's
fun.

1459
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,840
Now I'm 6% in the hole again,
right so.

1460
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,280
Our daughter her.
Husband jacked his ankle up so

1461
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,640
they went to an urgent care 1 I
don't know, two weeks ago or so.

1462
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,280
It kind of cost her 5 bucks with
the insurance she has, which is

1463
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,240
through the state because the
income that they make, which is

1464
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,960
insane.
So we have universal healthcare

1465
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,520
over here, right?
And see.

1466
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,120
Where I was going with that is
then us.

1467
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:00,440
The other taxpayers, we pick all
that up.

1468
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,920
So then, you know, it's it's
it's bullshit.

1469
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,720
So universal Healthcare is like
a social, it's like socialism

1470
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,840
type thing.
I don't want.

1471
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,800
Yeah.
So we we, as is called Medicare.

1472
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,360
So all our hospitals and GPS, so
GPS are starting more and more.

1473
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,080
In fact, it's getting harder to
find one that doesn't have an

1474
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,120
out of pocket because they're
the GP.

1475
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,480
Even general raised General
practitioner.

1476
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,280
OK, Yes, yes, OK.
Yeah.

1477
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,040
I think you guys call them
primary practitioners.

1478
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,880
Same thing.
Yeah, so, but if, if, if you had

1479
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,400
a heart attack, if you broke
your broke your leg, you go to

1480
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,520
hospital.
So so earlier this year my wife

1481
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,480
we we discovered she had a
football size growth on her

1482
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:45,520
uterus and just my wife had the
same thing like shoot you not

1483
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,720
like 3 or.
Four years ago.

1484
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,360
Wow.
Like on her?

1485
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,560
Yeah.
And.

1486
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,120
She.
She.

1487
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:59,560
So she had a, an MRI done on, on
Boxing Day and then and then six

1488
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,360
weeks later it doubled in size
and she had to get a full

1489
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,800
surgery and you know, full, full
labyrotics, a full zip, zip down

1490
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,720
the stomach and get it, get it
all out.

1491
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,720
Hysterectomy.
The lot didn't cost us a cent,

1492
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,920
right?
And anything, anything like

1493
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,960
that, it just general, General
Healthcare doesn't cost you

1494
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,840
anything.
Now, if it's, if it's an

1495
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,720
elective surgery, if you have
arthritic knees and you need a

1496
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,400
knee replacement, then you might
be waiting two years.

1497
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,600
OK.
If you have private health

1498
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,560
insurance, which we do, we do
have, and that's a choice to pay

1499
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,280
extra.
You can go to a private

1500
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,120
hospital, you'll get get in and
but there's cost, there's cost

1501
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,520
to that.
So you can pay for getting.

1502
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,040
It's not better healthcare, it's
generally quicker healthcare

1503
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,600
through a different system.
So you.

1504
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,640
So by paying for it, you're not
stopping somebody else getting

1505
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,760
it through the public system.
You know, you're just kind of

1506
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,120
going through a privately funded
1.

1507
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,360
So but, but if you're sick like
I, I, I remember seeing some

1508
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:06,280
comparisons of drug costs for
American versus what we pay.

1509
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,760
This would be interesting.
I was blown away.

1510
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,360
So really.
Oh.

1511
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,920
I, I, I would love to find that
the, the chart, the things that

1512
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:20,760
you guys were paying $1000 for,
we were paying 6-6 dollars all

1513
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,840
Yeah.
Wow, wow, that's where our.

1514
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,920
System is what we call the PBS.
The Pharm.

1515
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,640
Pharmaceutical Benefits.
Scheme.

1516
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,840
And that's where the government
subsidizes a vast amount of

1517
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,040
drugs.
Vast amount.

1518
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,360
The maximum you'll pay for
something on the PBS, I believe,

1519
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,560
is $32.
Wow.

1520
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,520
Now let's talk.
Let's let's talk.

1521
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,000
About keep this in mind, there's
only two countries.

1522
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,000
In the civilized world that
allows drug advertising, the

1523
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,440
United States and Peter, New
Zealand.

1524
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,560
Thank you, really.
So my question.

1525
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,560
My question is this.
About money. $32 in Australia

1526
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,600
equates to 32 how many dollars
in America I think.

1527
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,480
Any idea?
$32.

1528
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:08,920
I think it's.
I think. $1.00 Australian is

1529
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:14,000
buying about 70 US OK cents OK
cents $0.70.

1530
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:20,200
Yeah, it's so 70.
So, so yeah, so if it's if it's

1531
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,800
if let's say it's $30 here, that
would be let's say 40, yeah,

1532
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,680
about 40.
OK, OK, OK.

1533
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,120
I just perspective, that's all.
No, sorry.

1534
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,760
It'd be about 20 dollars, $20 US
the other way around, yeah.

1535
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:32,480
Yeah.
OK.

1536
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,680
So I so I like that.
I like that.

1537
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,120
We need to.
Can we figure out how to make

1538
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,640
that happen here in America?
Well, that's why your drug costs

1539
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,040
are so high.
Because every 10.

1540
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,680
Seconds.
There's an ad on television

1541
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360
saying, Chris, you need this,
Chris, you need this, Mike, you

1542
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,400
need this.
No, I don't know how correct it

1543
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,120
is, but I heard that the
pharmaceutical.

1544
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,760
Industry over there spends $2
billion a year in advertising.

1545
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,520
That's probably, that's probably
conservative.

1546
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,880
And and half of it's for for
erectile dysfunction.

1547
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,720
Or testosterone, because that's
all they seem to focus on is, is

1548
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,800
just testosterone, wrong
erections.

1549
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,360
It's like, OK, let's talk about
this, Let's talk about that,

1550
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,920
right?
You know, it's, it's ridiculous.

1551
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,640
So again with my ignorance if we
will find if a if a new drug.

1552
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:19,400
Comes on the market that's
important and let's say, let's

1553
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,080
say a Zimpick or you know,
although that type of drug not a

1554
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,600
Zimpick itself, well that's
going to come back to bite

1555
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,600
everybody agreed.
Very, very much.

1556
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,080
That potential?
Absolutely.

1557
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,360
But but let's say there's
something a new white control

1558
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,080
drug comes out on, the
government will actually do some

1559
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,560
advertising and say speak to
your doctor.

1560
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,360
There's no brands.
They'll just say speak to your

1561
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,360
doctor and then your doctor can
decide.

1562
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,880
So, yeah, yeah.
But at the same time, so you

1563
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,520
can't do any of that.
But they'll there's gambling,

1564
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,800
especially sports gambling
advertising has gone through the

1565
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,640
roof in the last.
Well, here too, man.

1566
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,520
Here too.
Just especially once the NFL

1567
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,000
opened.
Up gambling and and partnered

1568
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,200
with and sort of the NBA and
then it's just it's non-stop

1569
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,320
it's insane.
How about casinos do you guys?

1570
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,800
Good question.
Are you a casino culture?

1571
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,520
Not really there.
There's no way that has.

1572
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,000
I think most major cities have
one casino.

1573
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,480
OK, otherwise that wasn't mine.
Yeah.

1574
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,920
So, so I mean, we've got, we've
got a casino.

1575
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,600
Up here in Townsville, so
Townsville.

1576
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,120
'S a a a regional city.
We've got about, we've got about

1577
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:42,000
260,000 people here and there's
probably, there's probably six.

1578
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:47,960
Yeah, there's, there's 11 casino
and it's probably got 2 or two

1579
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,960
roulette tables in it, 6
blackjack.

1580
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:55,480
I can't play craps.
There's.

1581
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,680
No craps up here.
There is in some of.

1582
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,880
The other ones in some of the
bigger ones, That's my game man.

1583
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,840
I love playing craps.
Never played.

1584
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,080
It oh fantastic seen it played
but.

1585
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,600
Never played it.
Fantastic.

1586
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,800
Do yourself a favor.
Put it on your bucket.

1587
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,240
List here's Here's a political
question.

1588
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Like America, you know.
We have a president.

1589
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,960
What do you have in Australia?
Are you great, president?

1590
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,800
Democracy.
So we use the We're the.

1591
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,080
Westminster system which?
Is the same as the United

1592
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,640
Kingdom, so we have a Prime
Minister.

1593
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:29,200
So the way it works over here is
the country is divided into

1594
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,080
seats.
And I think you did.

1595
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:34,720
We've only just had the
election.

1596
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,800
I'm trying to think of the
number.

1597
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:41,080
I think it was 75.
You need 75 seats in your party.

1598
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,680
And then of those people that in
that party, they vote for the

1599
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,600
leader and the leader becomes
the Prime Minister.

1600
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,720
OK.
So there's no one person that

1601
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,680
you're, you're, you're not
voting for the leader, although

1602
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,760
they kind of try and make it
that way.

1603
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,240
You're voting for your local
member.

1604
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:03,240
And then those local members
work out who's going to lead

1605
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,480
them and they, they become the
leader.

1606
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,760
So in the middle of, let's say,
I don't know.

1607
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,040
So Anthony Albanese is our Prime
Minister.

1608
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:16,520
He just got reelected if in two
years time we three years, I

1609
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,880
think is our our cycle for
federal.

1610
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,440
If in two years time the the
Labour Party who are current

1611
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,680
current government party.
If they decide that I don't

1612
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,960
think Albanese stands no chance
in hell of being re elected for

1613
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,120
the next one, that somebody can
challenge him for the

1614
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,680
leadership.
And if he gets and if they he or

1615
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,360
she gets more votes, then they
become Prime Minister and he

1616
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,880
gets the boot.
He just goes back to the

1617
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,200
backbenchers.
So is there a term limb like

1618
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,720
like in America?
It's it's 2 terms.

1619
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,760
And that's it.
You can't, you can't run for 1/3

1620
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,080
even though, you know, Donald
thinks he's going to run for

1621
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,720
another term.
But here's it's 2 terms.

1622
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,880
That's it for president,
Congress and Senate.

1623
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,280
They can, they can be in office
for 70 years and, and not even

1624
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,240
show up to vote because they're,
they're so old and decrepit, but

1625
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,440
they're still getting, you know,
voted in, which is ridiculous.

1626
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,880
So do you have term limits in
Australia?

1627
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,000
No, we don't.
No.

1628
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,000
And and and I think that.
That's part of the problem.

1629
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,520
Like we're, yeah, there's people
been in politics for 30-40

1630
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:19,440
years, but they, they, so, yeah,
we, we have three different

1631
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,640
levels of government.
We have local councils, we have

1632
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,040
state governments and federal
governments and they, they all

1633
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,320
run off the same type of system.
So we.

1634
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,920
So for our federal system, we
have what we call the House of

1635
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,480
Representatives, which is where
generally, but Yep.

1636
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:42,520
And then then they're sort of
check is what they call the

1637
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,200
upper house or the Senate.
So, so basically things have to

1638
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,480
go through the we can see how we
stole our system of government.

1639
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,160
Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah.

1640
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,120
This is all I think the biggest.
The biggest problem is that it.

1641
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,840
It has become very, we are
becoming more and more American,

1642
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Americanized and we are becoming
more and more polarized, very

1643
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,640
much leading on from American
sort of culture.

1644
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,680
So the So that would be the bad
side of it.

1645
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:14,800
Yeah, I think so.
It's it's.

1646
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,840
Not something I'm a fan of.
So our head of state, a lot of

1647
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,200
people don't know, and I can't
imagine too many Americans would

1648
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,480
know we our head of state is the
king.

1649
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,440
Oh, OK, King Charles.
King Charles.

1650
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:29,640
So we.
Are a part of the.

1651
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,400
Commonwealth from over in
England.

1652
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,720
So you're still an English
Commonwealth?

1653
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,440
OK.
Yes, yeah, we're part.

1654
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:37,920
We are.
Called the our our actual.

1655
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,520
Name is the Commonwealth of
Australia.

1656
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:46,120
So we there was a, there was a
what's the word?

1657
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,640
There was a vote of shit.
There's a word for a.

1658
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,440
Referendum.
There was a referendum a few,

1659
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,480
well probably about 15 years ago
to change to A, to leave the

1660
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:00,800
monarchy and become a, a, a, its
own Republic.

1661
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,080
And it got defeated and, and it
was simply and, and it was

1662
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:11,440
defeated simply because there
was no real advantage for the

1663
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:14,240
cost that it would have had.
No one could sell.

1664
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,000
It I like I voted.
No, because no one sold me on

1665
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,400
the advantage.
Like, I don't know, how's my

1666
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,960
life going to get better?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1667
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:24,800
I mean they.
They're they're purely.

1668
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,680
In your big, big ceremonial
facet, that's all, yeah.

1669
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,120
They're your Big Brother.
Yeah.

1670
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,000
Oh yeah.
England I.

1671
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,200
Mean again, we're the most.
We're the most.

1672
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,360
Epic sporting rivals.
But yeah, we're we're the one

1673
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,040
thing I do love about Australia.
Compared to other.

1674
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,240
Countries is that sporting
rivals over here are fun.

1675
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,920
There's never any any animosity.
Like you might have a jab at

1676
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,840
somebody, but it's always done
in jest.

1677
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,480
Yeah, you very rarely get get
fights at sporting events.

1678
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,960
Yeah, it's, it is.
Starting.

1679
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,240
To sneak in.
With.

1680
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:08,600
Clubs that are a lot more
ethnically based so that you

1681
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,960
know, that can't that is and
that used to be a massive issue

1682
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,200
in soccer.
So within soccer back in the day

1683
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,880
before it became what what's now
called the A league, they had

1684
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,240
they had clubs based on
ethnicities.

1685
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:28,520
So they had Melbourne, Croatia
and, and you know, and so you,

1686
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,760
you were always going to have
this massive, massive fight.

1687
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,560
So they, they cleaned that up a
lot.

1688
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,720
So yes, so the most, the most
epic rivalry or in the biggest

1689
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,040
game is probably what we call
state of Origin, which is

1690
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,480
Queensland versus NSW, which is
actually what those balls are

1691
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:49,800
behind.
He just got balls.

1692
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,480
And that's like you're.
I would call that the equivalent

1693
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:56,760
of your All Stars.
Nice balloons.

1694
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,280
I don't.
Know how I did?

1695
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,280
Yeah, I was just going to say.
What the hell?

1696
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,760
Just saw balloons going.
It would be the equivalent of

1697
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,920
your All Stars, but it's All
Stars with meaning.

1698
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,120
So it's, it's, it's mate versus.
Mate, state versus state.

1699
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,720
But it's fun and it's, it's
there's never any animosity and

1700
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,800
and we don't have to worry about
coming out and getting shot.

1701
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,800
Yeah, well, and that's not
indicative of everything in

1702
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,440
America.
Because the ones of us that are

1703
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:25,120
adults like Mike and myself,
it's it, it, it's a game.

1704
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,320
It is what it is.
I mean, if you know, if the

1705
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,400
Giants from the Super Bowl, I'm
not going to go outside and and

1706
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,720
and lift my my neighbor's
vehicle upside down, you know,

1707
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,960
in celebration, that's just
monumentally stupid.

1708
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,480
But you have that mindset still,
unfortunately.

1709
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,640
But it's not it's not something
that's shared on a whole.

1710
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,760
You have Philadelphia, there's
like that.

1711
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,760
Their fans are stupid like that.
Well, there's isolated

1712
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,000
incidents, right?
Right.

1713
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,840
And.
But that's the thing, you take,

1714
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,040
you take.
You take the isolated, you know,

1715
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,160
you take one small core of fans
that are just idiots and then

1716
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,960
they run it for everybody else.
It's like, that's why we can't

1717
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,120
have nice things, right?
I think what he's saying no, and

1718
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,720
correct me if I'm wrong, they
don't, but.

1719
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,920
That kind of stuff just doesn't
happen there.

1720
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,920
Right, Right.
That's what that's what I yeah,

1721
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:05,960
but that's what I was saying
like.

1722
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,840
From, from I was, I was kind of
debating with him a little bit

1723
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,640
that well, let me also put this
into perspective for people

1724
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,600
that's.
Also going to be a debatable

1725
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,200
issue, but I don't think so
because we have to consider the

1726
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:22,840
population density, right?
There's 350 million people in

1727
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,200
the same size as how many people
do you guys have?

1728
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,240
3027 million, 27,000,000 I was
pretty close.

1729
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:33,440
That's yeah.
So they're basically the size.

1730
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:34,920
Of Orange County, our biggest
city.

1731
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,160
Is I think for maybe 5 million
for Melbourne and Sydney.

1732
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,040
They're about 5 million each.
OK, So another thing that we

1733
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,480
need to clear up for.
Our listeners and viewers.

1734
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,400
Because Australia is completely
upside down for us, right?

1735
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,000
Like we could dig a hole and
find you is Christmas in July

1736
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,040
we.
Have Christmas in summer and

1737
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,760
that is something.
I still am not used to after 30

1738
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,360
years.
OK, so that's legit.

1739
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,360
That's great question.
When is is it?

1740
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,840
Is it December?
In the summer.

1741
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:11,600
December the 25th, but it's in
the December 25th so they they

1742
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,240
do do Christmas.
In July.

1743
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,800
And that's just a marketing
gimmick so that people can wear

1744
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,560
winter, you know, Christmas
jumpers and stuff like that.

1745
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,560
So, but yeah, our.
Christmas is generally.

1746
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,760
Seafood and sitting around the
pool and playing cricket or, you

1747
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:33,000
know, or or whatever it is.
It is not normal.

1748
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,240
It is to me.
It's really odd because I came

1749
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,320
from England when I was young
and cold.

1750
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:41,640
Christmas is associated with the
cold in every literature and

1751
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:42,720
movie.
Us too, right?

1752
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,400
Yeah, right.
I grew up that way.

1753
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Yeah.
Me.

1754
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:49,000
Too so, but it's so it's like
100 and. 20° outside and you're

1755
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,120
hanging out by the barbecue and,
you know, playing cricket.

1756
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,280
Yep.
Yeah, it's yeah and and.

1757
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,440
Drinking beer and eating.
Seafood there's no you know,

1758
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,360
some places do Turkey, but yeah
it's it's seafood is probably

1759
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,800
our number one Christmas food
now OK and then all your seafood

1760
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,360
obviously is fresh because you.
You're surrounded by ocean.

1761
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,520
It's.
Crazy, we export way more.

1762
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:19,160
Than we actually import and eat
more imported seafood because

1763
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,720
it's cheap and believe it or
not, it's cheaper to get prawns

1764
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,400
or a lot of seafood sent
overseas, processed and sent

1765
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,800
back than it is to actually do
it.

1766
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,200
Yeah, it's it's just so
ridiculous.

1767
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,080
So barramundi is probably our
number one most famous fish.

1768
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:38,880
Yeah, and, and, and it's a bit
of a staple.

1769
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,320
And I think it's something like
70% of all the barramundi eaten

1770
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:47,360
in Australia is imported.
Wow, I would have never guessed

1771
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,920
that.
So what's it is?

1772
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,120
It's.
Just nuts.

1773
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,280
What's the What's 1?
Thing that that Australians.

1774
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,560
Like you just gravitate towards
from an American thing like like

1775
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,680
like certain countries, like
they just they just fall head

1776
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,560
over heels of a red tag of
Levi's, right.

1777
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,840
And certain countries, they just
got to have the Jordans.

1778
01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:07,760
Is there something like that
that Australians would just, you

1779
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,320
know, move Earth and stone to
get something that it's

1780
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:16,400
American?
That's a good question.

1781
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,120
Thanks.
That is a great question.

1782
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,240
Nothing that, nothing that
really.

1783
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,000
Springs to mind.
There's a lot.

1784
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,600
Of.
I mean, fashion, yeah, fashion

1785
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,840
is very much influenced by all
the different cultural, you

1786
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,800
know, influences music or
whatever.

1787
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:40,800
Sure, Yeah.
I don't know.

1788
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,440
It's funny, isn't it?
Because we.

1789
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:48,320
The the world is so it's it's
come together.

1790
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,480
So much with the Internet like.
There's just, you know, and, and

1791
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,160
if we want something from
America, we just jump on Amazon

1792
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,520
and buy it right, right now.
So that's interesting.

1793
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,840
I was going to bring up Amazon.
Because Amazon's worldwide,

1794
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,280
right?
Yeah.

1795
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,080
So, so let's.
OK.

1796
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,040
So like what's the normal cost
of a brand new vehicle?

1797
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,400
In Australia, like here?
If you want to buy a 4 door Crew

1798
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,320
Cab pickup truck, you're like
120 grand brand spanking new

1799
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,200
that doesn't have all the bells
and whistles right.

1800
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,280
So say like do you have, do you
have American products as far as

1801
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:24,240
vehicles like Fords and Chevys
over there, the Chevys and.

1802
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,840
Dodge Rams and that.
Sort of thing have just started

1803
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,160
to come over here and then
they're around 200 grand.

1804
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,640
Wow.
So that's about 150.

1805
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,640
In American.
Yeah, probably slightly more

1806
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,240
than that.
So yeah.

1807
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:40,840
They're they're pretty.
Expensive.

1808
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,440
So what's the main thing you?
Guys manufacture vehicle wise

1809
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,080
over there.
Is it the Subaru Outback?

1810
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:50,880
No, we we lost all our.
Manufacturing.

1811
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,640
There is no cars manufactured in
Australia anymore.

1812
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:59,880
I think the Holden factory, we
used to do Holdens and Fords,

1813
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,880
the Holden factory closed, if I
had to guess, I'd say maybe six

1814
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,560
years ago, seven years ago.
So you know how you guys have

1815
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:12,880
NASCAR, We have super cars over
here and the the ultimate and,

1816
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,000
and it was Ford versus Holden
and that that was the the big

1817
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,560
thing and it went for many, many
years and it was a real rival,

1818
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,320
you a real rivalry.
You kind of went for one or the

1819
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,200
other.
And they since Holden and Ford

1820
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,760
now go overseas, they're they've
now brought in like Nissan and

1821
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,280
other manufacturers and it's
lost its kind of lost its

1822
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:38,600
Australianism of it, that real
tribalism.

1823
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:44,080
So yeah, unfortunately there is
nothing that we make over here

1824
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,920
anymore, which is really sad.
So with.

1825
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,480
So I don't, I don't, I don't, I
correct me if I'm wrong, but

1826
01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:55,680
Trump can't control the whatever
you guys do from Australia to

1827
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,880
other countries, only between US
and America, right?

1828
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,560
Like he wants to tear a few from
American stuff.

1829
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,440
He can do that.
But you, you, you're not getting

1830
01:35:02,440 --> 01:35:04,880
tariffs like crazy for stuff
that you come from Britain or

1831
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,200
other countries around you aside
from America, right?

1832
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,040
No, we've just, we've, I think
we've got free trade agreements

1833
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,760
with.
Pretty much everywhere, very

1834
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,160
cool.
Australia is net positive for

1835
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,800
America.
So you guys in you guys export

1836
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:24,320
more to us than you import.
So and one of our biggest

1837
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,960
imports to you guys is steel and
it's going to hurt us when with

1838
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:33,160
that that 20% tariff that's
because it was going to be 10

1839
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,240
and then he's doubling it to 20
announced yesterday or day

1840
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,040
before.
So that could have some some

1841
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,200
flow on effects.
But at the same time, we have

1842
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:50,520
such broad export partners, then
I don't think it's going to make

1843
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,600
too much of a difference.
The difference will become will

1844
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,560
be the flow on effects from
America's influence on the

1845
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:58,880
world.
So.

1846
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,160
So when when you go when when
those tariffs were first arrived

1847
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,800
and your stock market tanked as
as followed suit, we just went

1848
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,120
yeah, straight down the game.
I think a lot of I think a lot

1849
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,440
of his thing is wishful
thinking.

1850
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:11,880
And then he.
He's just, he's who knows what

1851
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,360
the hell he's doing.
He's he's a whack A mole.

1852
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,600
But I don't, I don't, I'm
hopeful that it doesn't.

1853
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,240
It doesn't do every because
every time he's tried to do

1854
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,200
something with guards to that,
we've shut it down.

1855
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:21,880
Like, yeah, you're not doing
that.

1856
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,960
Yeah, you're not doing that.
Yep.

1857
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,560
Not doing that.
Now I get the China thing

1858
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,000
because China has been sticking
it to us for years.

1859
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,480
So I'm let's stick it right back
to them, right?

1860
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,160
Turnabout is fair play.
If we get, if we get charged,

1861
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,640
you know, if any people are
charging us to export import,

1862
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,760
then I'm, I'm the same.
OK, if they're going to charge

1863
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,920
us 10%, let's charge them 10%.
But don't do it to Peter.

1864
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,680
Peter's been my representative.
For Australia, as far as the

1865
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,600
Chris and Mike's show goes, and
he's been his outstanding

1866
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,360
representative of Australia.
So let's not let's not mess with

1867
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,080
Peter.
He seems like a friendly fellow.

1868
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,760
Yeah, I guess the the problem
with tariffs is that if.

1869
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:01,280
I'm, If I am a manufacturer over
here, I'd probably buy a huge,

1870
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:05,120
huge proportion of my things
from various countries,

1871
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,840
including China.
They're obviously the the, the

1872
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,560
world's biggest exporter of
pretty much everything, which I

1873
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,400
don't get that because China
being.

1874
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,760
That is that just because you
know, it's because they're cheap

1875
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,920
slightly.
OK, OK.

1876
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,920
Yeah, you.
Can do a lot when you

1877
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,680
essentially comes down to what
the what.

1878
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,160
They have little hands.
Exactly, you know.

1879
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:29,880
And it's it's one of those
things every, everybody gets.

1880
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:34,080
On their high horse and says our
iPhones or Samsung should be

1881
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,240
made in America.
But you could probably going to

1882
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,760
be paying $5000 for it right?
Well, Apple came out and said.

1883
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,440
They're going to invest $400
billion over the next four years

1884
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:48,280
so they can actually produce all
of their products in America,

1885
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,040
which I think is cool.
And and we'll see what kind of

1886
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,880
cost that carries over to the
consumer.

1887
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:57,000
But like, you know, there's the
reason why Detroit was Detroit

1888
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,160
was because all the
manufacturing cars that were

1889
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,320
made, right?
I mean, that's that put the

1890
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,080
industrial revolution was
America.

1891
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,360
That's what our foundation is.
So now that everything's gone

1892
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,200
and being exported and we're
going to go build a factory in

1893
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,040
Mexico to build cars instead of
in America.

1894
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,280
Well, you know, it hurts our
economy, but it boosted that

1895
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:15,560
economy.
Yeah.

1896
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,440
And then you have all the tariff
stuff going back and forth.

1897
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,640
So I think it's just a vicious
cycle that you just need to find

1898
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,600
a happy medium.
And so, to play devil's

1899
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,560
advocate, do you think that
would have happened if Trump?

1900
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,920
Didn't do these tariffs?
No, I don't think so.

1901
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:31,120
So you know, is there a method?
Is that you know?

1902
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,360
So.
It's one of those things that it

1903
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,320
could have good things for
America and very bad things for

1904
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,280
the rest of the world, but it's
kind of it's going to take a

1905
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,440
generation or two to actually
make up that that difference.

1906
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,880
Well, here's what I told Chris.
Many.

1907
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,640
Episodes ago when this first
started, in my opinion,

1908
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,520
everybody's looking at it in
reverse.

1909
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:59,120
They're not concerned about what
the results are to you and I,

1910
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:03,880
because what I was seeing was
stock market manipulation right

1911
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,840
before everybody's eyes.
The rich got richer right there.

1912
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,600
They pulled the market down,
they bought it up and they,

1913
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,520
they're starting to drive it
back up.

1914
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:13,880
The rich are getting richer,
right?

1915
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,480
That's how they do it.
Yep, absolutely.

1916
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:17,760
Do you have stock market in
Australia?

1917
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:20,280
Yeah, absolutely.
OK.

1918
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:21,440
Absolutely.
We.

1919
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,760
Heavily influenced by by
America, but it's also the hang

1920
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:31,640
Sai like the, the the Japanese
and and yeah, it's we're part of

1921
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,680
the world, the world economy.
Do you guys drill your own oil

1922
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,240
and stuff?
You're self-sufficient in that.

1923
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:40,920
Aspect we actually export.
We export.

1924
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,360
We have some of the highest gas
and oil prices in a in the world

1925
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,000
and we export the majority of
it.

1926
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,920
So see how then how is Mad Max
possible man?

1927
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,920
Because.
Mad Max was all about dystopian,

1928
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,880
you know, they ran out of
everything was at that point,

1929
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,160
but no but.
But they were.

1930
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,640
But all those vehicles, man,
were.

1931
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,160
Driving, they all had gas.
They that's what what they were

1932
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,560
on the hunt for though,
remember?

1933
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,680
So they're wasting all the fuel
hunting for fuel, yes.

1934
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,040
And then, and then he had the
Thunderdome and all hell broke

1935
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,680
loose.
Tina Turner just raised hell.

1936
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:14,480
One man enter.
Two man 80s.

1937
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,880
That was 25 lbs of chain link
fence she wore.

1938
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,200
Yes, we export more more.
Oil.

1939
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,960
And natural.
Gas than we actually use how do

1940
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,200
you how do you which is so
stupid how do you.

1941
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:28,280
Export natural.
Gas.

1942
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:29,680
Man.
Is it just to?

1943
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,960
Throw a pipe, pipelines and
tankers.

1944
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,320
So the pipeline goes under the
ocean.

1945
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:40,520
Ocean.
Floor pipeline to yes, OK makes.

1946
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:41,360
Sense.
Yeah, I look.

1947
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,080
I don't.
Know enough to.

1948
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,920
Yeah, I don't know how to do it.
There's coal.

1949
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,640
Coal is a big one as well.
We do a lot of.

1950
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,760
Mining OK.
OK, cool all.

1951
01:40:51,480 --> 01:40:52,600
Right.
Well, boys and girls.

1952
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,360
This is the Crystal Mike show
you can find.

1953
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,280
Us on Instagram, Facebook and
YouTube, this is Peter Vinnicol

1954
01:40:57,440 --> 01:41:00,000
as I say that Peter, we're going
to, as far as I'm concerned,

1955
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,600
we're going to put.
You on our list of people to

1956
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,680
head back because I'm fascinated
with Australia and you've been

1957
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,880
awesome, man.
Thank you so much for your time

1958
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,520
and humoring us with all our
questions.

1959
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:14,320
And if you want everyone, a
couple Americans on your show,

1960
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,880
we'd be.
Glad to be guests as well.

1961
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,200
You know, million percent or so.
Yeah, absolutely.

1962
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,880
Absolutely.
I'll give everything a plug you

1963
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:23,840
want, man.
That's what we're doing.

1964
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Whatever.
You want to talk about you'd lay

1965
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:26,920
it on.
Yeah, my.

1966
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,760
Podcast is called Beyond the
Call.

1967
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,880
Experiences of high trauma
occupations say that one more

1968
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,400
thing have long conversation
beyond the.

1969
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,720
Call.
Experiences of high trauma

1970
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,160
occupations, OK.
And I talked to people in and

1971
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:46,600
around the high trauma space.
So be it defence or, or, or

1972
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,800
first responders.
I, I've had a professional, I

1973
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:54,440
had an NRL referee, I've had a,
I had an escort, a high class

1974
01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:56,200
escort from America on there as
well.

1975
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,880
Because, you know, all, all
trauma, trauma is a lot more

1976
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:03,000
than what we see and what we
think and the, the effects it

1977
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:07,760
can have is huge.
I, I suffer from PTSI hate the

1978
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,520
word PTSD.
It's to me, it should be PTSI.

1979
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,560
It's an injury, not a disorder.
Nice.

1980
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,240
I like that.
I like that too.

1981
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,400
Yeah.
Disorder has such a negative.

1982
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:23,520
Connotation.
It does to it internally a dis

1983
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,680
I've got a disorder, whereas an
injury is a temporary can, can

1984
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,200
be a temporary thing.
So I'm still in the process of

1985
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:32,640
getting through that.
And I found it really

1986
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:37,160
therapeutic.
I've yeah, it's it's it's long

1987
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,040
form, but it's yeah.
And it's deep, dark and can get

1988
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,280
graphic.
So, you know, if you're easily

1989
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,520
offended, don't, don't go there.
But yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's

1990
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,400
really therapeutic.
So from a, from a, from a trauma

1991
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,760
standpoint are.
And so you have something like

1992
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,040
I, I went through a fair amount
of trauma in my child and

1993
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,800
growing up.
So from a vantage points I had

1994
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,840
come on, we talked about my my
trauma and stuff.

1995
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,600
Are you somebody that that
certified to kind of work

1996
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,160
through the trauma with someone
you just kind of sharing stories

1997
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,680
and how they how they adapt,
recover and survive through all

1998
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,040
of it.
So what I'm generally doing?

1999
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,600
Is trying to get stories.
That and no, I'm not certified,

2000
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:20,120
although it is something I'm
interested in, in becoming.

2001
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,240
I've spent time in mental mental
facilities myself as a patient

2002
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:29,800
and got a lot out of that.
I get people to come in and tell

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their stories and I like to try
and get them to, I want my

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audience to be able to identify
if they might be feeling or

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01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,880
thinking something similar and
it might be enough for them to

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reach out and get some help.
So I'll go through the emotional

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01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:52,560
stuff that people go through and
and because the worst feeling

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about any sort of mental health
trauma is that you feel alone,

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01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,320
right?
Couldn't agree with you.

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The only person.
Going through this, that's why

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we always.
Drop our show up with with if.

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If, if you're, if you're feeling
down, depressed, suicidal, you

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know Somebody Loves You,
somebody's going to miss you,

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make the call.
Go on Google, find somebody that

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can help you talk through the
problem.

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If if nobody else is there, you
can reach out to Mike and I

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because somebody will miss you.
You don't, don't create a hole

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in somebody's heart because you
were struggling and didn't know

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how to deal.
Because everybody on some level

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has dealt with trauma in a
similar fashion and has has felt

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the same way at some point in
time in life.

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Because nobody can say my life
is perfect from day one.

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No matter who you are, what
stage you are in life, what

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class level you are, you know,
low class, middle class, upper

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class, it doesn't matter.
Everybody has to deal with the

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bullshit that everybody else has
to deal with.

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It's just different for each
person and how they carry it and

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how they process it.
So we never let the bad days

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when somebody's going to miss
you, Somebody Loves You.

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Remember that.
Because that's kind of why we

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started this because we're both
recovering out.

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I'm a recovering alcoholic, he's
recovering drug addict.

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You know, we both had those dark
periods of our life.

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Everybody does.
But it's, it's something like

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you, which is really cool.
I didn't realize that's what

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your show is about, but that's
fantastic because you're you're

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helping people release that and
get it out of their systems.

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That could be very cathartic.
I know some of the stuff I've

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gone through getting it out.
My my benefit was writing and

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singing and performing.
I was able to purge that

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darkness and turn into something
positive as far as, you know,

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that aspect.
But a lot of people don't have

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that.
That's a million percent what

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music did for me, right?
And a lot of people don't have

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that outlet, so that's a cool
thing.

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That you do, man.
Well, the next time we have him

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on, well, that will be the whole
show, man.

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We'll just talk about this, you
know what, how you've started

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01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,640
and how you got going.
And I'm super interested in that

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myself and I'll be tuning into
your show.

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01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:44,800
So yeah, absolutely.
Thanks, guys.

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Yeah, I.
Mean the, the the. 2 words that

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are probably the most dangerous,
worthlessness and helplessness.

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If you feel worthless or
helpless, if you feel those two

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things combined, your risk of
suicide is so high that that

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that's a red flag.
That's when you need to get some

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help.
Because if we don't have things

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that where we're going to look
forward, that's yeah, your risk

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is just through the roof.
And I've been to so many, I've

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been to hundreds in my career,
and every one of them is one

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more than the needs to happen.
Yeah.

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Agreed.
Amen to that, man.

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That's Peter.
He's Chris.

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I'm Mike.
Thank you for tuning in for

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Chris and Mike.
Sure.

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01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,640
You can find this episode on
YouTube when it drops as well as

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01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,120
Spotify have a podcast,
etcetera.

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01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,960
Although we were recording this
live simultaneously on YouTube,

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which is kind of cool.
We will drop a whole bunch of

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01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,760
information about Peter so you
can follow his podcast as well

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01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:37,720
on our Facebook page.
Give us a follow, give us a

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01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:38,960
like.
We love you all.

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01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,520
Thank you very much, Peter, for
being here.

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01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,040
We truly appreciate.
And and yeah, let's have you on

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01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:43,680
again.
Thanks guys.

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Sounds great.
Feel the trail behind your eyes.

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:26,880
Feel yourself and need yourself.
Take a moment, look until you

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01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,040
see it.
Fight the battle and tear.

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01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:37,360
Fight the battle.
But you fuck will put you.

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01:47:37,440 --> 01:49:01,920
Back there to your.
Come down here, we haven't found

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01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:07,920
solids in the sand.
You can fuck fight him.

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01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,240
Wait for the dead.
Wait for the the wild you.

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01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:14,600
Ain't.
No creature.

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01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:22,840
Quick on the almighty day.
You got a dream.

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01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:30,720
Who in your life to keep our
soul in every man.

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Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul, everyone.

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You shine now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:52,440
yeah.
Take

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01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:23,720
a.
Moment.

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The.