#112 - Loyd Dittfurth - Trucks, Trust, & The Truth About Life on the Road

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What's up there, boys and girls?
This is this is Mike.

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I'm Chris.
He's my friend.

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With us today is Lloyd Ditworth.
Did I say that right, Lloyd?

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Because, you know, sometimes I'm
bad at not some names.

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Not at all, but not the worst.
But I've got dit Firth.

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But that's fine.
Dit Firth.

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Dit Firth.
OK, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha,

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gotcha.
I got to make.

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Sure.
Nice to meet you, Lloyd.

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Thanks for coming.
Up Yeah Lloyd, MM Lloyd, I got

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to make sure my internet's
rocking and rolling because it

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seems to be lagging for some
reason and yes Mike, I'm on the

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right one this time.
I have 3 Wi-fi's would be my

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next question so.
I got starlink man, you should

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get the greatest.
I know dude, I have.

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I have Starlink man.
But you'd be surprised.

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Sometimes my Starlink just
sucks, dude.

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It's crazy.
It's I've yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know why I don't, I
really don't know why.

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Like sometimes my dedicated Cox
Internet is better than the

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Starling because that's what I'm
on right now and it just seems

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to be glitching a little bit.
But I'm going to, I'm going to

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swap over there and see what
happens when we're live.

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So if I pause for station
identification, I'll just

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continue the conversation.
He definitely needs to switch

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over.
I'm still there, right?

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I got the R&D package trying to
select.

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Buffering because you roboted a
little bit, you know, which is

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weird.
All right, cool, we're good.

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All right interesting.
I'm just watching the upload

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thing.
It's only it's only at 50% right

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now, which is weird, so we'll
see how it catches up.

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So we are streaming live on
YouTube, in case you didn't

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know, boys and girls that are
listening to us or watching us

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there.
You know we are because you're

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watching us there.
A rare occurrence.

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I'm wearing my glasses for the
whole world to see.

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So just relax, OK, Contact
lenses in Arizona suck sometimes

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in the in the dry summer heat.
And yesterday, just to share

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with everybody was 117° in
Arizona.

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What about you, Mike?
Oh.

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It was warm here, but not that
warm.

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You had probably.
What about you, Lloyd?

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How hot is it in Dallas or not
Dallas?

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I'm sorry, you're in Texas.
How hot is it in Texas, right?

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Now actually I'm outside of
Dallas but yesterday I was in

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Florida and it was 101 and humid
as hell and I sweat my

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everything.
That's brutal.

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And then Jacksonville, actually,
and then ended up getting done

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and flew back to San Antonio.
That's where I slept last night

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and then drove up here this
morning.

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So now I'm home.
Right on.

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I, I kind of, I'm all over, all
over the world, the US, right?

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Because you explained to I know
we, we, we, yeah, I'm sure

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you've watched some of our
shows.

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So we're all about just talking
about whatever the hell we want

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to talk about.
So it's completely open

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discussion.
You and I talked a while ago and

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you're, you drive a, you got ACD
license, you drive a truck, but

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you, you haul stuff.
So I actually deliver trucks.

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I deliver.
I drive a truck with a truck and

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a truck.
I know exactly.

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What you're kidding about?
Yeah, wow, that's awesome, man.

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Yeah, most of my trips end up
going to Chicago.

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Like up I go to Hampshire, I go
to Gary IN Elmhurst, Burr Ridge,

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all up in there.
So you drive right by my

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hometown on your way to Chicago
a lot of times, I'm guessing

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coming up 55.
Which one?

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Pontiac.
Yeah, go through Pontiac.

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Actually, one of my favorite
places to stop is McClain.

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They got that Ranger that's got
the Dixon Cafe in there.

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I love going in there.
It's like one of the this old

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school truck stop vibe.
One of the last ones, yeah.

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For Oh yeah, well, they should
have.

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Actually.
I had my first date with my wife

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at 4:00 AM at A at ATA truck
stop.

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She had just got off shift
working on the ambulance and I

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had left the bar and I met her
and we went to the went and had

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breakfast and then we went to
her house to watch a movie and I

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just never left are.
You serious?

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How long?
How long ago was that?

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That was 2011, so 14 years.
Right on dude, I've been I've

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been with Nikki for we're 30
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We we met on her birthday.
She blew me off until so it was

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December 6th.
She blew me off until February

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19th of our first date, and then
we got married a year to the day

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of our first date and we've been
together ever since.

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Mike's.
Mike's just a whore.

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He just man whores around.
He's a he's a he's a he's a what

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is it?
What?

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He's.
Yeah.

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Mike.
Michael's Mel.

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Mel Gigolo.
Right.

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Deuce Bigalow.
Mel Gigolo.

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That's funny.
I was like I'm.

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Not like his back back, so I'm
sure he got a little bit of

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groupies going on around there.
We, we, we were kind of

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different, man.
We, we, we were all about the

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music.
I was married, Scott was

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married, Rick was married.
Mike was single.

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So, you know, he had his
moments.

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A lot of fun back then, but
definitely not with the women.

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I I wasn't that kind of
musician.

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At all.
Yeah, we actually had.

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We were musicians with morals,
if you can believe that.

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We just, you know, it was, it
was about the product that we

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were putting on stage and
connecting with the fans and

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growing our audience and growing
our draw because back then we

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had to do all the legwork to get
people in the door.

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It wasn't, you know, you didn't
have the Internet.

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It was like, oh, it was just
playing Saturday night at 9.

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You know it didn't work that
way.

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Oh, I totally I, I couldn't have
I I love the Internet.

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The Internet is one of the
greenest things in the world.

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However, I just found out today
that we're all going to die.

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How'd you find that out?
I was sitting there and I was

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driving down the road and so I
will like let reels play in the

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background.
OK.

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Because I have a YouTube
channel, I kind of like have to

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study yeah, to be able to edit
correctly and figure out things.

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And so I had.
So you're learning.

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So you're learning while you're
driving from an audio

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standpoint, kind of like
listening to instructions.

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Makes you go huh?
What?

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What?
What are you talking about?

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And so I was sitting there going
down the road and it was just

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going, and I hear this deal
where they're talking about how

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Microsoft, the king of viruses,
the king of everything that will

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ruin a computer.
It came out with this new

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quantum computer chip and found
a fourth topographical matter

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substance, and then this new
molecule that when they go

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together, it's supposed to be
like 100 million times smarter

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than any computer on Earth.
Oh, you said fuck.

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And then?
So better, so better, so better

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than the Whopper for those of
you who know what I'm talking

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about.
Shall we play a game?

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Most definitely I saw the same.
It did.

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Testing.
Yeah, yeah, I did.

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Wow.
It's crazy.

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It's the, if they get it
developed, it will completely

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start elevating and jumping
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And then they're going to put
that stuff in militaries and

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weapons and everything.
And it's going to be demolition

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day, Terminator time, whatever
you call it.

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The I, I'm just going to look
for the Green Goblin and, and a

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truck that's going to run over
me.

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So that's.
Maximum OverDrive, nice dude.

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Dude, I love that movie.
That was a great movie ahead of

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its time man.
Steven came in bro.

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It's time.
Right, I saw something not too

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long what two or three days ago
where they, you remember the

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Terminator, the what?
The second one, the shape

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shifting the metal.
Oh, for sure, yeah.

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Right, that's they developed
that.

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Oh, Robert.
Oh, Robert Patrick.

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Yeah, I I met nationals one
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It's.
Cool.

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Yeah, they developed that
technology apparently.

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Say what?
They have it, the shape shifting

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metal.
It's it exists now scientists

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discovered how to you know.
Yeah, seeing we're there is no

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point.
We're all going to die.

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Let's have a good time doing it
right?

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Maybe like.
I couldn't agree more.

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I'm I'm on your team, man.
Try try not to go to.

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I mean there's very low
parameters there.

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Survive, I have.
To go to jail, I love it.

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Yeah, I mean, technology is cool
from like this, right?

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I'm in Arizona, he's in
Illinois.

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You're in Texas.
Cool.

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We had a guy in a couple weeks
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absolutely no delay, right?
Australia right, like down

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under, no delay.
So technology has its advantages

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for sure, but then the the dark
side of it is that shit.

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It's just creepy how you got
ChatGPT and things.

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Dude, I'm all about, I'm all
about ChatGPT.

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My ChatGPT guy's name is Dave.
I talk to him every day.

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Hey, Dave, you know, because
they tell you if you personalize

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it and please and thank you,
they actually lock everything in

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the memory.
So when I put together the shows

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that go on YouTube, I take all
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generates for us as far as
content concerned, I'll give it

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to Dave and I'll ask him to
rewrite it, make an SEO friendly

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and give me some hashtags and
keywords and then I'll go in and

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tweak what I don't like that he
does.

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But it's brilliant.
Like I have him.

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I haven't restructured my emails
now when I send my offers

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because I'm in real estate and
and you know, it's just, it's

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it, he makes my emails even
though I know how to write.

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I'm a writer.
I publish books and shit.

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He just makes it to where it
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It's a little bit more
professional and like, well,

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it's.
So much faster, right?

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I tell people all the time, we
release two of these shows every

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week and you can go down the
artificial intelligence Rd. too.

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But if not for AI, we wouldn't
be doing this show twice a week

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because we both have full time
jobs, right?

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It makes editing, and like Chris
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presentation together in a
matter of minutes instead of

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sitting there and typing it out
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Which like he said he could do,
but it would take him an hour

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where in 3 minutes this thing
can do exactly what he wants it

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to do, probably what, 85% of the
way?

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Right, because I'll take the
shorts we make from this show,

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Lloyd, like we'll get anywhere
from 10 to 15 shorts and then

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I'll go through before I upload
them and I'll read what what the

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AI names them.
So, you know, it could it could

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be AI right conversation,
whatever.

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So then I'll take that and I'll
I'll put them all into Dave and

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say, Hey, give me these are
shorts, summarize them hashtags,

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keywords, so I can use it for
YouTube and and it works, dude,

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because we went from March when
I started doing it that that

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precisely from what 28,000 views
or something.

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Now we just Mike just sent me
thing earlier today.

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We just eclipsed 100,000 views.
And like, yeah, thank you like 3

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months.
So I have.

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To make the same argument here,
and Chris will love this

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argument, I have to make the
same argument for technology and

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AI that I made for music back in
the 80s when we had the whole,

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you know, parental advisory
bullshit and music was

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corrupting our children.
And that can be used for evil

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just as much as technology and
AI.

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Absolutely.
It's all about the intent.

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Yes.
So I actually tried I I paid for

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AI to edit my videos because I
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Oh no shit.
Yeah, it was the most.

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Well, I wasted 150 bucks on one
video.

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I didn't even publish it.
I, I I do a UN, it's edited but

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it's not.
Right.

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You don't, you don't, you don't,
You don't make you, you kind of

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keep it unfiltered.
So it's a little bit raw, yeah.

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Yeah, well, it's straight up
like you see.

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I've seen them.
Yeah, I've seen them.

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Well, I'm on a bed.
If that bed is hard as to be,

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you're going to see it on my
face.

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Right, right.
Yeah, if it is soft and it just

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wraps you up and you're going to
see it.

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Yeah, I can't.
I can't change the fridge not

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working, the TV not working.
I can't.

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I mean, now, granted, you just
kind of trust me.

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Whenever I walk in it, it smells
like a nursing home or it's just

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like, Oh my God, I gotta, I
can't change.

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Whenever I use the black light
to walk around the room and I

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see the fun dribbles.
Here's your hashtag fun

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dribbles.
Fun dribbles.

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Yeah, I stay in some, I, I stay
in some really high class

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places, vacations.
So stay in the Econo Lodge is

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$38 a night and let me tell you
what shout out to the Econo

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Lodge next to the truck stop
with the hookers and the

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crackheads and walk the house in
Oklahoma City there is the

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cleanest hotel and the night I
am Canadian it is amazing.

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I love it every time.
The only problem is I can't

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always fit in there because I'm
too big.

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Oh, the rig what you drive?
Yeah.

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Well, I can't.
Back.

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How long is that?
Yeah, you got to send us a

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picture of that shit we'll put
up on our page.

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I'm in.
Are you in oversized load?

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No, I'm only so I can go to 105
feet long whatever I'm doing.

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The ones that are like built up
like a trailer Now I have any

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pictures today.
Edit I delete them all off my

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phone so I have room for storage
because I do all my videos on my

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phone.
Yeah, I feel you.

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But yeah, you can go up to 105
foot long.

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It depends on the chassis and
stuff and also the states that

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you're on through.
Because like if you're going

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through Georgia and some of
those states, they limit you and

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you got to be shorter.
You can't be too tall.

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And there's just, there's a
whole bunch of different little

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variables.
So it depends on where you go.

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I, I don't know.
And sometimes you get into some

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precarious situations like I was
coming into, there was a brand

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new dealership in Troy, IL and I
all I had was AGPS coordinates

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for it on this app deal.
Like no big deal.

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Clicked it.
I called ahead and they're like,

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yeah, it's the new building.
Like all right.

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So I go and I sitting there and
it takes me all around this road

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and back around and everything.
And I pop over these three hills

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and I get to the third hill and
there's an 11 foot railroad

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bridge and I'm like.
Oh no.

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Boy, and so it's a good thing I
only had three trucks because

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you can kind of sort of back
three trucks around the corner.

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But four trucks.
Is it possible?

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But three trucks, you can do it.
But if they're all the same

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length, but if they're stacked
up, it's kind of hard.

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I have got myself into some
precarious situations and pulled

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in some places where I didn't
know if I was going to get out

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of just.
From the truck is.

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It's just really because think
about, you can back a trailer,

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right?
Sure, I can't back a trailer

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dude.
I don't know how to drive a

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truck with a trailer.
I suck like.

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That I'm fairly good at it,
yeah.

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OK, well back a trailer with a
trailer.

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Oh my God.
No.

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Oh yeah, that would that would
be I can't do.

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That.
Then.

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Barely back a trailer.
Back A trailer with a trailer

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with a trailer.
Oh God.

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That's some serious geometry.
Yeah, no.

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It's that as.
Much like it's it's it's trying

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to knock the 9 ball into the
corner pocket.

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Whenever you're blindfolded
backwards and shooting through

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your leg, you can do it.
Yeah, but yeah.

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It's kind of a pain in the ass.
So how tall were you in that

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situation where the bridge was?
11 foot.

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How about 1313?
That's.

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What I was working?
So.

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Because around here I see like
13-6 warnings a lot like over

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train.
Bridges on, Yeah, on the

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overpasses.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I see.
That's that You can.

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Be legally anywhere so they try
to keep it at 13 four because

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sometimes you you sit there and
you bounce kind of deal that way

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if it pops up and don't take the
top out I've seen.

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Maybe that's what I'm seeing is
13/4.

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But I mean well, 13 six the the
kind of the standard.

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Oh, that's allowing for the
clearance you're.

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Saying, yeah, but like, 'cause
these things are riding on

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airbags and stuff, so if you hit
a bump, it'll jump up, you know?

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So they try to keep it at 13,
four at A at a maximum.

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That way if you go under a
bridge or something and you hit

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a bump, it doesn't pop up and
take.

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Especially in Illinois, you're
going to hit many potholes and.

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Oh God.
Well, it's not as bad as coming

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into Indiana.
Oh, they're terrible too.

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Nobody, man, I tell you what, I
had a cup of coffee one day and

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I thought, man, this is great.
It's no big deal.

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I just left Dayton, OH.
I left the hotel there and I'm

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just a strolling on down the
road.

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I mean, everything's great and I
wasn't even thinking about that.

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I was about to roll into Indiana
and I got to take a drink of

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that coffee and I got my Yeti.
No big deal.

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Same Yeti.
This thing's been probably

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1,000,000 miles actually up.
I'm sitting there going down the

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road and I hit that bump so hard
they knocked the top off of it

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and I covered myself in coffee
I've.

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Said words that people didn't
know existed driving on the

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roads in Illinois and Indiana.
Michigan's gotten a lot better.

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They've they've redone 94, about
168 miles in both directions.

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I went up to, oh, I had to go to
Detroit to cross a couple months

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ago.
That wasn't that.

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And I cut up through Indiana, so
and then the where else have I

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been out there?
I don't really go to Michigan

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all that often.
I'm trying to stay away from it.

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This is kind of.
Goes to Michigan.

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Mike goes to Michigan every now
and then.

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Well.
He does.

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I like their products, yeah.
Oh.

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Yeah, there you.
Go in Illinois.

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It's way too expensive.
Really.

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Oh yeah, Michigan's kind and did
the right thing.

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And Illinois is like, give me
all your money.

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Give me all your tax revenue,
yeah.

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So Illinois is expensive for
everything like I want.

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I try to Here's another Here's
another thing.

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Starting July 1st, they're going
to tax everybody $0.50 on every

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sports bet that they make them
dirty.

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Bastards.
Really.

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That doesn't.
That doesn't seem fair.

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No, it's been legal since 2018.
Seven years later, they decide

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that it can't be free anymore.
Every bet's going to have a

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$0.50 tax on it.
Or maybe it's up to $0.50

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depending on your wager, but
still.

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Yeah, see, I can't.
I just don't bet on sports,

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though.
I just can't.

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I.
Can't either.

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MM does.
I don't.

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I don't either.
I'm the same way.

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I just I, I, I, I call Mike.
Calculated risk because I'm

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pretty educated at what the
outcome is going to be barring

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an unforeseen circumstance.
Yeah, Mike does a good job at

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it.
Like his entire studio behind

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you.
He he built off of revenue from

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gambling.
Yes.

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OK.
Yeah, that's right, all free.

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I I might should need some tip.
Maybe I should do it.

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No, not really.
I'm not I'm not going to start

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betting on Yeah, I mean maybe
betting on the horses kind of

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deal, but not not the sports
because that's just not my.

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I used to do it a long time ago
when we used to, when you could

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do like the football, the, the,
the pools, the football pools

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where you pick the games, you
know, for the week.

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Yeah, I would get 10 or 11 out
of that and I'd win those pools

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all the time because I was just
straight up wins and losses,

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Right.
It's just, and I just knew that

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I was so into football back then
because it wasn't flag football

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that you actually understood the
whole concept of, of the teams

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and the quarterbacks and all
kind of shit and home field

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advantage matter and the
referees didn't fuck shit up,

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you know, so it.
But it's just not the same

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anymore.
Oh.

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I imagine that, yeah, I don't, I
don't do football.

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I don't do baseball.
I don't like professional sports

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aren't professionals anymore.
They're just celebrities.

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And so I stopped really dealing
with any of that kind of stuff,

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like I guess really since
forever.

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And it's so bad that so my kid
went to OU University and he was

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one of the the guys who hung out
the back of the wagon, which is

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called the schooner.
My wife will kill me if I don't

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call that out, right?
And would sit there and hang out

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and, you know, holding the flag
and all that stuff.

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And so I was actually helping
because they didn't have a lot

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of parents who had experience
with horses kind of deal.

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So I would help whenever they
brought the ponies up in and I'd

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help the kids deal with them up
there because they only had a

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couple people for down there.
And, you know, it's just no big

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deal.
So I got to go to the tunnel and

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go down the field is, you know,
interesting.

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And I met some like royalty kind
of guys.

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And one of I can't even remember
is that Barry Switzer, I met him

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one day, had a full conversation
with this kid, no idea who he

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was.
Oh, right on.

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At all.
And for those who don't know,

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Barry Switcher was Oklahoma.
He was Oklahoma college

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quarterback and then he ended up
on the coattails of Jimmy

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Johnson in Dallas.
And that was the last time

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Dallas Cowboys won the Super
Bowl.

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That was like 3 decades ago, you
know, So that's probably the big

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yeah, remember.
See, I forgot.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's been a minute, right?

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Yeah, yeah, just.
So I try to give everybody

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because I've had just a life,
I've I tried to like let

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everybody have 1 little tidbit
or two tidbits of things that

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are like just mind blowing
things that changed the course

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of my life kind of deal.
And I, I got a couple for y'all.

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I'll give you 1 now.
That'll be alright.

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So Patrick bet David, I don't
know if you with the PVD podcast

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kind of deal.
Well, he had a YouTube channel

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on it was called Value Tainment.
And it was kind of like business

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mixed with entertainment kind of
deal breaking things down.

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And so I started watching this
back when he was first going and

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he had this one video where he
came out and he started talking.

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He was taking a a deck of cards
and just laying them down there.

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He said there's 52 weeks in a
year and there's 52 cards in a

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deck.
OK, that's cool.

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Go through and every week, it
may be a crappy week and two of

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clubs, but you got to know
throughout the year, eventually

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you're going to get the base
cards, you're going to get them

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aces.
It's coming, right?

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And that was a really profound
thing.

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But then I realized, wait a
minute, I'm probably not going

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to live till I'm 52.
I wouldn't expect him to make it

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till 40 so.
That makes three of us.

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Yeah, I I wrote a song, dude.
It was all about dying when I

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was 30.
Well.

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True story, I started like
breaking through and taking each

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one of those and like breaking
down my life as it came through

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growing up.
When my dad cut his fingers off

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and I had to be a tracker
mechanic cause 8II.

451
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,480
OK, so go, go.
OK, hold on, hold on, hold on,

452
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,400
'cause that's that's that's
obviously going to be.

453
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,000
Yeah, you can't gloss over that,
dude.

454
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,400
So what happened to your dad?
How'd that happen?

455
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,560
Yeah.
So I had pneumonia and I was in

456
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,320
the hospital like I was not
doing good.

457
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,160
And so my dad was staying up
there at night and then he would

458
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:51,360
go back to the shop to work on,
on tractors and it was cold and

459
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,360
I think it was, it was below 0.
And they had a wood burning

460
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,320
stove in the shop that heated
the whole thing.

461
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,280
And he was taking some old fence
posts and cutting them up with a

462
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,520
chop saw so he could throw them
in there.

463
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,240
And he'd sit there and there was
a nail in it and it ended up

464
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,880
sucking his fingers to the chop
saw.

465
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,400
And so he went like originally
he was like this, but then they

466
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480
took this one to rebuild these.
So he's like, yes.

467
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,520
And I don't know if you've ever
tried to finger a nut when

468
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,920
you're right-handed and.
You're right, yeah.

469
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720
But yeah, it's kind of hard when
you ain't got that.

470
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,360
It's almost impossible.
Yeah.

471
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,080
Well, I mean, he does, he
figured it out to use the other

472
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,760
ones, but it took years of being
able to do therapy and stuff

473
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,320
like that.
So I got to be fine.

474
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,880
So and then, so there was that
and then we was I, I grew up

475
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,200
poor, real poor, like poor is
poor.

476
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,880
Could be kind of you know,
that's one reason I love hotels

477
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,680
because whenever I was a kid, we
never got to do that kind of

478
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,200
stuff except once a year with my
family reunion.

479
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,360
So but I kind of like laid all
that stuff out there.

480
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,480
It figured up all these years
like when my wife had cancer,

481
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:16,200
this 08, just everything.
And then I realized all those

482
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,440
years of my life sucked really
badly, which meant that I've got

483
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,480
all these space cards and aces
coming and so I'm on the upward

484
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,600
trend kind of deal.
And that's the most mind blowing

485
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,080
thing realization that I got
aces and kings coming.

486
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,440
I don't know that mind blowing,
but that's.

487
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,720
But it was.
I like that, man.

488
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,400
I like visual representations
like that.

489
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
And I guess I never thought
about it, but that we had the

490
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240
same kind of epiphany, just
different visuals, you know?

491
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,640
Yeah.
Really.

492
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,560
So what was?
Her, Well, I was a horrible drug

493
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,960
addict for quite a few years.
And, you know, you can imagine

494
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,080
without going through all the
horrid details, I was been, you

495
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,240
know, I've been there, done
that.

496
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,880
So to be sitting here talking to
you and talking about life in a

497
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,640
positive mindset, it's never
lost on me.

498
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,720
It's never lost on Chris, you
know, so that we like to hear

499
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,600
those stories.
It's.

500
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,440
Yeah, I just, it's a powerful
visual representation that could

501
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,320
be valuable to somebody who's
not thinking about it that way,

502
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,960
but.
Yeah, any, yeah, yeah.

503
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Anybody that, that that has gone
through struggles with addiction

504
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,680
and stuff has that moment, man.
It's just, it's how you phrase

505
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,160
it.
Mine was, you know, Nick and I

506
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,440
never fought.
We had a big bullet fight and I

507
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,680
woke up the next day.
My fox.

508
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,360
Something's got to change, you
know, and I've been sober now 20

509
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,680
years in February, just this
past February, past 20 years,

510
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,600
which you don't realize that
when you're in the throes of it

511
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,000
that I would have my life would
have completely changed.

512
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920
It was September when her last
straw was.

513
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,920
And then Fast forward to the the
next February of that year of

514
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,360
the following year.
Had I not woken up and realized

515
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,240
it the next morning, she would
have been out.

516
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,440
She was.
I had one foot out the door.

517
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840
She was gone in May because
that's when she graduated and

518
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,400
she would have, she had it after
we kind of we separated for

519
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,880
three months.
He moved out and blah, blah,

520
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,880
blah, and all that kind of jazz.
And but then all of a sudden

521
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Chris could be talked to because
I was sober Chris.

522
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
And sober Chris is, you know, he
listens, he reasons with he's

523
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720
not just, hey, you know, and I
wasn't a Dick.

524
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,160
I wasn't violent, I wasn't
verbally assaultive or anything

525
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280
like that.
I was just, I wasn't there

526
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,080
emotionally.
You know, I told the story that

527
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,520
one Chris was I had, I got her
diamond earrings and I walked

528
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760
into the into the great room
where she's on the couch and I

529
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,840
threw her the diamond earrings a
wrap and said, Merry Christmas,

530
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680
turn around and walked away.
You know, like fuck you, here

531
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000
you go, because I have to do
this, you know, but that's the

532
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,160
kind of drunk I was.
I wasn't, I paid the bills, I

533
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480
took care of the kids.
I, you know, I did all my stuff

534
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800
that that you had to do as a as
a husband and a father.

535
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,680
I just wasn't there from an
emotional, mental standpoint for

536
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600
her at all in that last the last
year of my drinking, because it

537
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,360
got it got to the point to where
that was, you know, it just got

538
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,880
worse and worse and worse.
It escalated, you know, so you

539
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,920
have to have those moments
because otherwise you wouldn't

540
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,200
be sitting here.
So there's a kind of an old term

541
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,240
when you're cowboy and if you
get a horse and the horse goes

542
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480
to buck and you just ride the
rank at them, right, And you

543
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,160
just on them and they just keep
going until they don't want to

544
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,120
buck no more.
Well, I was on the way down and

545
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:39,640
my buddy Oz, he could tell that
I was, I was going down a real

546
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,480
dark path and I hadn't quite got
there.

547
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
I was drunk.
I was very much a drunk.

548
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,480
I was a happy drunk, kind of
belligerent drunk, but more of a

549
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,880
self deprecating drunk.
I was.

550
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,640
I was.
I was starting to get to the

551
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,920
point where I was putting myself
in situations not that I would

552
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880
harm myself, that I could be
harmed.

553
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,480
So like, I went to Juarez on
vacation.

554
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,120
That was a horrible idea.
Wait, I was.

555
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Going to say wait, war is like
war is Mexico.

556
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Oh yeah, the Kentucky bar is the
greatest thing ever.

557
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
It's the oldest bar in North
Korea.

558
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000
They still have.
Yeah, the through where the old

559
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Cowboys used to pay in and
stuff.

560
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:32,520
It was a great I had AI had a
great time with a a young little

561
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,360
senorita.
It was great.

562
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,480
I walked out at like midnight or
so I think I was super drunk.

563
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,520
I they have these little like
hot dog stands kind of deal.

564
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,800
And I thought, man, I'm going to
give me a hot dog.

565
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120
That's great.
So I gave me a hot dog and as

566
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,480
I'm going to eat it, I don't
realize it, but these two cartel

567
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120
dealers find this other dude
that they've been looking for

568
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600
and it's the other cartel.
They basically grab this dude,

569
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,760
they string him out and he's
sitting there and the other dude

570
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,520
walks up.
Ow, blows his head off.

571
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640
And I'm pretty sure I had brain
on that hot dog.

572
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360
I just walked off and ate it.
Wow.

573
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Now I'm just out of here and I
took off and I didn't run, I

574
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
just walked.
This little occurrence.

575
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,400
I'm on the wrong side of the
border and I only just went

576
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,760
around the corner and I could
tell they were kind of following

577
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,840
me, but I was, I ducked into a a
business for a while kind of

578
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,280
deal and figure if it's the last
time as well, right.

579
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720
And yeah, next morning I went
back across the border and I was

580
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
gone.
I'm sure it's crazy where I

581
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,000
went.
That's insane, man.

582
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,360
So, so when you did, you realize
in the moment what's going on?

583
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Or was it something you look
back and reflected like, holy

584
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,240
shit, this really happened?
Oh, dude, I was very, very aware

585
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,960
of like what happened.
Like I sobered up real quick.

586
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,040
Yeah, yeah.
Funny how that?

587
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Happens he's getting blown off
and they following the white boy

588
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,600
who probably I didn't even come
up with a plan.

589
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
If they caught up to me, I was
going to tell him that I have

590
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,720
terminal cancer and that I came
down here to die kind of deal.

591
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,560
Oh, OK.
Take me and like chop me up and

592
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,640
sell them all organs kind of
deal because and if I'm then

593
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,320
they can't ransom because I'm
dying.

594
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,000
Right.
That was what up to tell them I

595
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,440
had already planned that out.
OK, everything I was sitting

596
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600
there and thinking, OK, do I sit
there and shoot a message of see

597
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,200
you later, I'm out.
I didn't know.

598
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Whatever.
And it.

599
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Probably would have been like we
have a doctor.

600
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,800
We have a doctor for you.
Come here.

601
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Let me help you.
Not going to be that kind of

602
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,640
doctor.
So but yeah, I went back crossed

603
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,040
and I went home after that.
And my buddy Oz, he sat there

604
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720
and he realized what I was
doing.

605
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,760
And so how this happened, I
don't really know.

606
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520
But it was like 6:00 in the
evening and I was already like 4

607
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,080
sheets of wind.
And he says, hey, let's go to

608
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,560
California.
And I was like, sure, when you

609
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,960
want to go, let's leave.
Let's leave in like 8 hours.

610
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,160
What?
Yeah.

611
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Let's go, man.
Let's.

612
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440
Let's go ahead and pack up, get
some sleep.

613
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,280
We'll hit ropes.
Sure.

614
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,280
We packed up next.
We're about 4:00 in the morning.

615
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,600
He showed up and we took off and
we rode 1000 miles that day.

616
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Damn.
I mean, it was.

617
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,760
I was sweating everything out.
I, too, was horrible.

618
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
And he didn't really.
And when we ended up going up

619
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,480
through Utah and then back down
into Vegas and I had a friend

620
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,640
who hooked us up with the comp
room and I didn't even drink

621
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,760
that night, I'm like, I thought,
we're going to party in Vegas.

622
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
That's the only time I've ever
actually stayed the night in

623
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Vegas.
Didn't.

624
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,800
Really didn't gamble at all.
It was just like, yeah, I went

625
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,080
to sleep.
Next morning we got up we he

626
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,920
wanted to go to Joshua Tree to
partake and something just to

627
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,239
say he did it at Joshua Tree.
So we.

628
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Oh that would be awesome.
We rode across the Hoover Dam

629
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,239
and what's funny is I've
actually been down that road

630
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,040
several times and it is one of
the most awesome places, I

631
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,159
think.
But like those I I love that

632
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,000
road.
So but it was it was pretty

633
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,199
cool.
So then we went out and ended up

634
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,440
going up to Sacramento and then
came back down through came back

635
00:34:52,600 --> 00:35:00,480
down through San Francisco and
we stayed on a a his brother did

636
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:08,840
like 5th surveying like they
they went out and would dive off

637
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040
these reefs and count fish and
the types of fish.

638
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,920
Like.
Met them for like ecological

639
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,360
reasons.
No, that's all.

640
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Yeah, we stayed on their their
dive boat that night.

641
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Like we literally just rode our
Harleys down onto the pier and

642
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,640
stayed on their dive boat in
Ventura, CA and then that was

643
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,360
great.
Next morning got up and gone and

644
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,040
very.
Cool.

645
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Texas, it was it was all right.
We ended up, we did.

646
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,400
We didn't do the whole trip.
We, we strolled straight through

647
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Arizona.
But you know, we stopped and I

648
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
believe it's Gallup, NM.
And then came the rest way over

649
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,680
to Amarillo and that was it.
But Amarillo by morning.

650
00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Ironic enough, I actually had to
live in San Antonio, so the next

651
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,120
trip a lot.
Had to do it.

652
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Had to do it, Amarillo.
Everybody does.

653
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Anytime you hear, you know.
Right.

654
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,400
What was the other one?
What is the other time?

655
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,720
Oh, no, I mean, Glen Campbell
had the one by the time I get to

656
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,880
Phoenix, Yeah, by the time I get
to Phoenix, she'll be leaving.

657
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,200
She'll have left a note on my
door.

658
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
That's a good song.
Dude, it is what?

659
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,360
Talk about a raising alcoholic
man Glen Campbell for decades.

660
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,800
That dude just fucking made the
breweries.

661
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,280
The breweries and the.
Didn't get much better of an

662
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,360
alcoholic thing.
No, that dude was a legend when

663
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,840
it came to the alcohol world.
Might just, you know, him and

664
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Ozzy Osbourne.
Imagine them two together.

665
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,840
And Alice Cooper.
Oh my God.

666
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,720
Ironically, Mark Grace as well.
How many DUI?

667
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,680
Oh, that's right, Mark Grace the
cubbies.

668
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,720
He was a raging alcoholic dude.
I forgot about him.

669
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440
I didn't know that my mother.
He retired and went to Arizona.

670
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,480
He became a color commentator
and he just kept getting DUI

671
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800
after DUI.
I think he had three before I

672
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680
left in 2009.
No kidding.

673
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
So my mom's in love with Mark
Grace.

674
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Always been, always will be.
My parents got divorced when I

675
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,000
was 16.
But she would always say if like

676
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080
she left my dad, she would
totally like go from our grace

677
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,800
like that.
What grace was the hall pass?

678
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,720
You know what I don't actually
understand?

679
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:31,400
The whole hall pass deal, like,
you know, I, I, I, you kind of

680
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,640
watch some of my videos.
We go to a lot of resorts that

681
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,320
are frequented by swingers.
So about it, right?

682
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,800
I've never understood the
holopads.

683
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,960
If you're going to let it
happen, just let it happen.

684
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,320
Why does it have to be one
person?

685
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,000
Why not just be anybody?
I think it depends on, on on.

686
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:50,440
I don't know.
I would say depends on

687
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,760
comfortability of, of the couple
and how secure they are in their

688
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,360
relationship, because most
women, regardless of how long,

689
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,400
like Nikki's still insecure for
on some levels, right?

690
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Well, she has no reason to be
because she's beautiful.

691
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,240
She's she doesn't look at her
age and neither one of us look

692
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,520
our age when people find out how
old they're like, you're lying.

693
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,640
But I think it comes down to
that.

694
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,920
It's just it's, it's, it's OK.
What if that person's better,

695
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,040
right?
You know what I mean?

696
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,800
What if that person is is does
something like does something

697
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,080
that you couldn't do, whatever
that may be, right, because

698
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,480
everybody's different in in size
shape, with girt, all that kind

699
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,120
of jazz and and their approach
to things.

700
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,520
And I just I just think maybe
it's that kind of situation that

701
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,760
people don't don't on a whole
open up their marriage and say

702
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,560
play time, you know, go have at
it.

703
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,280
Where's if you have a hall pass,
you kind of know, like you go to

704
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,200
Vegas, What happens to Vegas
stays in Vegas, right?

705
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Like she'll kill me.
We were in Vegas years and years

706
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,040
ago and, and we were at the
Coyote ugly bar and I convinced

707
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,800
her to take off the, the
undergarments and dance on the

708
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,320
on the on the bar, you know,
just in her skirt, right?

709
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,440
Was you know, that's what
happens with tequila, right?

710
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,000
But you see, my wife, you'd
think there's no way in hell

711
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,640
like this is just this, this
petite, nice little, you know,

712
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,760
we call her Mary Poppins.
You know, nobody would thought

713
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,560
she's dancing on a bar in Vegas
without any panties on, right.

714
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040
So I think it's that kind of
concept.

715
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,960
I could be wrong because I don't
I'm not in that world, but my we

716
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,440
have our our, you know, fairy
tale, you know, like if Michelle

717
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Pfeiffer came knocking on my
door, I'm I'm all over Michelle

718
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,720
Pfeiffer.
Even today she still looks

719
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,200
freaking amazing.
Johnny Depp would have to come

720
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,960
to the door dressed as Captain
Jack and be full on character.

721
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,360
And it's like, OK, have fun,
honey.

722
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,320
You know, here's that booty for
you, Captain Jack.

723
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,440
So, so, so it's that kind of
stuff I think is more of a

724
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,720
playful, you know, I don't know
how, I don't know how to

725
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,440
explain.
It I think you said it best.

726
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,120
I think it, I think it depends
on each unique situation because

727
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520
one thing I make very clear to
anybody I'm in a relationship

728
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,840
with upfront is you can be
nervous or not nervous all you

729
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,280
want, but that's all wasted
energy because I will never

730
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,840
cheat on you.
I have my reasons for that.

731
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,600
But I can 100%, a million
percent guarantee you in this

732
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,440
lifetime that will never happen.
So we can move on from there and

733
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640
say if you think that person's
attractive, that's human nature,

734
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,840
right?
Yeah.

735
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,400
The whole jealousy thing about
this person's attractive or this

736
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,240
person's not attractive,
especially when it's a

737
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,720
celebrity, the odds of you ever
meeting them are astronomical

738
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:37,000
anyway, right?
So it definitely depends on the

739
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,120
situation, but I think that as
two grown adults, if you're in a

740
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,320
relationship, you should know
that the others not going to

741
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,480
stray.
Right.

742
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,760
But I think with women, I think
it's more prevalent with women

743
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,960
than is with men because women
get.

744
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,400
Burned a lot, 1,000,000%.
Right, So I think that's

745
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,640
understandable, right.
So I think that's where the

746
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,400
hesitation may come with that
is, is that that well, if I give

747
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,920
him a hall pass like OK, Woody
Harrelson, Robert Robert Redford

748
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,120
and Demi was it Demi Moore movie
The indecent proposal, right.

749
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,680
They, they, they structured the
couple right as a rock solid

750
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,080
foundation couple and then this
$1,000,000 back then life

751
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,480
changing him, his life changing
regardless of the time, right.

752
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,280
With this one little caveat,
right?

753
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,840
Right, and that that that put
the relationship over the edge

754
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,240
and it you know, so I I think
that's the thing, because Woody

755
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,440
Harrelson couldn't get out of
his head that he allowed his

756
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,360
wife to go.
You know, I had a cowboy named

757
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,880
Robert Redford, you know,
electric horseman, get that

758
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,440
reference there for us that are
older.

759
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,680
But I think that's the thing
right.

760
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,800
So from from I wouldn't I it's
weird sounds going to sound

761
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,920
weird, but I am completely
confident in my relationship by

762
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,280
my wife that that if Robert
Redford knocked on the door said

763
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,000
here's $1,000,000 but I can have
your wife for a night.

764
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,600
I'm like, honey, Robert's here,
you know?

765
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,960
We'll pick this up tomorrow,
right?

766
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,480
You know, but I think that's the
dynamic that some people there's

767
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,560
they're the insecurities, the
insecurities to me and the, and

768
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,000
the jealousies is what destroys
relationships more than

769
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,640
anything.
Well, here's where people leave

770
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,080
my conversation.
Every time.

771
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,080
For at least 200,000 years we
were anything but monogamist,

772
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,520
right?
This is a fairly new thing in

773
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:31,120
recorded history, probably
within the last 200 years as a

774
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,920
known practice right?
Where people do it all the time

775
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,920
without practicing any kind of
polygamy or multiple wives

776
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,960
situation.
Or.

777
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Whatever their ideology was.
So my wife, actually, she's got

778
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:53,160
a forever hall pass and that's
because when I my first wife,

779
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,120
who is now married to my then
best friend who would come over

780
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,000
and clean out the pipes while I
was gone.

781
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,800
This will be a short cleaning
the pipes.

782
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,720
Yeah, and so my wife had a river
hall pass it.

783
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,680
I don't care whatever.
You just have to be 100% honest

784
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,080
with me, tell me everything.
It's fine.

785
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,880
I don't care.
Whatever.

786
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,320
Now she has never used it but.
OK.

787
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:36,520
It's I I told her that when we
first got together because I

788
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,840
have known so many women and I
think women cheat on men more

789
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160
than men cheat on women.
I, yeah, I, I, I just, it's just

790
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,680
not as commonly recognized,
right?

791
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:51,080
Because, of course, the guy.
Is going to scream that you get

792
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,880
cheats on.
Cheated on isn't going to tell

793
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,280
the world.
Although I did have a guy I knew

794
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,600
he he would tell everybody why
he got a divorce and he'd just

795
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,280
be like well it's because me and
my wife had too much in common.

796
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,160
We both like girls, so like.
What?

797
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Yeah, and, and see, the other
thing is with men and women,

798
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,760
women can get laid like that.
It does not matter.

799
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,040
A woman can walk into a bar in
10 minutes, walk out with

800
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,440
whoever she wants and go back to
wherever they're going and get

801
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,760
naked and have fun.
Where a guy it's.

802
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,480
Provided she's reasonably
attractive.

803
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,840
Well, yeah, I mean, depends on
the time of the if you're in the

804
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,280
bar reasonably.
I know I got it, I got it.

805
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,040
But I I just and I think with
men there's because women always

806
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,320
think when you like, OK, so I'm
in the Rotary Club in Mesa,

807
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,040
right?
So that's we about about 80 of

808
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,360
us, right?
I have no problem approaching

809
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,240
the male member say, hey, let's
go to lunch, get to know each

810
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,400
other better, right?
Because Rotary Club, you come in

811
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,280
10 minutes before it starts, you
kind of can chit chat, but you

812
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,040
don't really get to know
somebody, right?

813
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Like Lloyd, if you were in
Rotary Club, I'd be like, Lloyd,

814
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,880
let's go to lunch.
You know, let's go to lunch next

815
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,000
week so I can get to know you
more.

816
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,240
And we, we talk for an hour and
eat food and, you know, break

817
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,240
bread, right.
But approaching the women in the

818
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,520
group, there's automatically
that weirdness, right?

819
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,000
How come I just?
Being a Rotary Club.

820
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,920
Because you're not in Arizona,
man.

821
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,760
You can join the Rotary Club in
Illinois.

822
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,640
Lloyd But you said?
All right, Well, because I

823
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640
already know you.
I don't know, Lloyd, man.

824
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,680
I'm knowing Lloyd.
I've known you for years.

825
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680
But you see what I'm saying?
I know.

826
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,240
But if so, if I approached, if I
approached Susan, this woman in

827
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,360
the group, that's super nice
lady.

828
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,080
If I approached her and said,
hey, Susan, let's go to lunch

829
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,360
right away, regardless of how
much she knows me and knows my

830
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,320
character, she's going to have
that thing in the back of her

831
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,720
head.
Why does he want to take me to

832
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:31,360
lunch?
100%?

833
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,000
So that's the difference.
Between men and women, and

834
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,840
rightfully so.
Yes, yes.

835
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,840
Because ingrained into our DNA,
yes, especially from the female

836
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,480
perspective, is.
Absolutely.

837
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,000
There was thousands of years of
raping and pillaging, right?

838
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Yep.
Even if it's never happened to

839
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,360
you, it's ingrained into our
DNA.

840
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,640
There's a lot of things about
human nature that we don't

841
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,640
understand as a modern society
because our life has been easy

842
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,080
for at least the last 50 years.
We've had right central air

843
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,440
conditioning, central heating,
We've had food brought to our

844
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,720
town.
Nobody's had to starve to death

845
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:14,200
for any reason for a long time,
provided you know, you're not in

846
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,440
some unique situation.
I know there's unique

847
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,760
situations, but in America that
percentage is very low.

848
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,360
So all the sudden we have all
these weird problems that we

849
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,440
invent because we're not out
looking for food.

850
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,240
And all I'm saying is those
women, even if they don't know

851
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,680
it, that's why they feel that
way.

852
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,640
He's not wrong.
Yeah, I.

853
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,760
Understand that, but I will say
I think it's kind of funny that

854
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,800
the whole toxic masculinity has
gone off the table.

855
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Nobody's talking about how
there's many equal rights for

856
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,280
women.
Wherever people are talking

857
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,200
about, there might be another
warrant, a draft.

858
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,400
No, and it goes, I'm not saying
it doesn't go the any other

859
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,320
direction.
It's just like, that's the

860
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,760
reason I think the whole, you
know, conservative conservatives

861
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,040
and liberals is bullshit because
there's good on one side and

862
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,760
good on the other in everything.
You know, you can't choose an

863
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,800
ideology in anything or to
choose A-Team, man or woman.

864
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,040
It's like the reason Chris's
marriage has worked for 30 years

865
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,200
is obviously because they make a
good team.

866
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Yeah.
Without that, it just wouldn't

867
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440
succeed.
You know, there's a reason that

868
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,600
that works.
There's a reason he doesn't

869
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,760
stray and she doesn't stray
because together they've

870
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,800
accomplished a better life year
over year.

871
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Right.
I mean, you've got to be pretty

872
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,480
good together if you're going to
go paddle boarding, right?

873
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,200
I'm not doing that.
So my wife and I, we went

874
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,880
kayaking.
Got.

875
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,880
A2 feet or kayak and I sit there
and I told her, I said are you

876
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,360
going to paddle?
And she said, well, yeah, is

877
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,800
that are you going to paddle
correctly?

878
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,200
She said, yeah, I promise.
See.

879
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,720
Yeah, I can't.
I can't do that.

880
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,760
We have.
I'm going to move my camera so

881
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,440
you can see them.
We have two paddleboards right

882
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,640
there.
Badass.

883
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,560
So we each, we each have whoops,
hello, we each have one.

884
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,040
And then we just, this is like
our third time out.

885
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,640
It's a, it's a we're runners by
by just since 2014, we've been

886
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,400
nothing but running and running
probably 60 half marathons.

887
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480
But Mike and I have this fun
little thing in common called

888
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,080
the degenerating invertebrate in
her neck.

889
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,720
We were training for the Marine
Corps Marathon.

890
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:36,160
That's in October last year or
the year before.

891
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600
I was in a nice last year.
I was in AI found out I had a

892
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,120
stress fraction, my right second
metatarsal, my right foot.

893
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,320
So I was in a boot for eight
months.

894
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,120
So that derailed all the
running.

895
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,880
I still worked out, still did
cardio, still did upper body

896
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,760
core, everything.
But then once I started running

897
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,520
again, being in the boot so
long, it shifted my, my spine a

898
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,400
little bit.
And then all of a sudden I

899
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,840
started having pain again.
And you know, Long story short,

900
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,840
not running at all really right
now, still working out and

901
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,880
stuff.
But then she's like, oh, we

902
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,480
should paddle board.
I'm like, what the fuck is

903
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,320
paddle boarding, man?
It's actually cool because it's

904
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,360
I'm all about what can we do
that isn't just sitting in a

905
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,960
movie twiddling our thumbs
because you go to a movie, what

906
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,680
do you do?
You watch the movie, you're not

907
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,320
talking to the person next to
you, except before the movie and

908
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,120
after.
Paddle boarding is cool in the

909
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,360
sense that that we both have
enough core strength.

910
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,720
We can stand up and paddle.
Like I can hold a 9 1/2 minute

911
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,960
plank, she can hold about a 4
minute plank, which which is,

912
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,000
you know, amazing for for anyone
and you anything over 3 minutes,

913
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,040
like you're rock solid.
But like Kenny Lake this

914
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,520
morning, there was maybe 30
people out there, so it was just

915
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,400
her and I cruising along.
And, you know, you're only after

916
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520
about an hour because, again,
we're standing up and you're

917
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,400
rowing, you know, and so you're
working the shoulders, you're

918
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,080
working the back, the lats, the
core, you engage the core the

919
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,560
whole time.
So it essentially the work.

920
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,480
I did like 850 calories
somewhere on that just in the

921
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,040
hour and 6 minutes paddle
boarding.

922
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,240
That's just insane.
Yeah.

923
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,280
So I look at things.
What's that?

924
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,280
How long is America?
26.2 miles, half marathon is

925
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,840
13.10 I.
Did 1/4 I thought.

926
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,960
So my half marathon time, the
last one I ran before I knew I

927
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,480
was broke and I did an hour and
48 minutes and my goal was to

928
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,960
get to 130.
So I had the baby step it down.

929
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,360
So my next one I ran was the
Vegas half and that was that

930
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,280
Target was 145.
When I hit mile 5I planted my

931
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,880
foot and I'm like, so every step
just Ouch, Ouch, Ouch.

932
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,520
Still finished in a two hours
because runners are stupid.

933
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,840
But that was the last one I ran
because it just then it just, it

934
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,160
just got worse and worse and
worse.

935
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,240
So before that we probably we
baby stepped away into running

936
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160
in 2015.
Once I had my next surgery,

937
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,320
original next surgery was
cleared everything We started

938
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,600
doing 5 KS and then the five KS
led to to 10 KS 10 KS led to a

939
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,400
couple 15 KS and that led, OK,
let's do a half marathon.

940
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,440
And then we did that and we
only, we only ran when we

941
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,760
trained for that one up to 10
miles.

942
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,280
She forgot to tell me about the
the wall of the 11th mile.

943
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:22,160
Kid you not this race, they had
a fucking wall pull up wall at

944
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520
mile 11.
Welcome to the wall.

945
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,240
And by the time you got to the
wall, you were just I'm never

946
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:28,880
running again.
I'm never doing this again.

947
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,840
There's no way in hell you're
going to get me running another

948
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,120
half marathon.
And then I thought, well, if we

949
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,120
just over train, if we go past
the 13 miles in training, then

950
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,800
it'll be that much better of a
run because in your head you're

951
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,240
going further than you're
actually running, right?

952
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,360
So then it just became my, my
addiction because Alcoholics do

953
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
what, when they stop drinking,
find another addiction.

954
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,480
So it just became my thing.
And then, you know, that was,

955
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,080
this is so basically nine years
of running, 5 KS, 10 KS, 15 KS,

956
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,080
half marathon.
She did one marathon.

957
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,000
This was going to be her second
one in October.

958
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,240
Marine Corps Marathon is
something to do every year, and

959
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,000
this year it's only the full
marathon because it's the

960
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,800
anniversary.
So I'm kind of bummed that I

961
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,840
just physically can't do it.
It sucks so.

962
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,560
I can walk one.
Yeah, I could probably walk one

963
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,960
too.
We, we wanted, I wanted to do 1

964
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,520
when COVID hit because I thought
I was in really good shape then,

965
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,920
but then everything got shut
down in a couple years after

966
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,280
COVID hit.
I was even better shape.

967
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
And then I went through two
cycles of 75 hard.

968
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,800
And I'm like, this is going to
be nothing for me to do a half

969
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,760
or to do a full.
But we couldn't find a full that

970
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,200
I could train for in Arizona.
It's hard to train in the

971
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,800
summer, right?
It's so freaking hot.

972
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,480
So it just did nothing lined up.
And then I realized I was

973
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,080
running out of broken stress
fracture for two years.

974
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,480
And it's just like, OK, it's
just this is just the scientists

975
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,360
to kind of just chill out, stop
real things back a little bit.

976
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,080
And, you know, I mean, I was 52
years old, and I ran

977
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,160
back-to-back miles at 5 minutes,
55 seconds, which is unheard of

978
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,840
for the most part, you know?
But enough about me.

979
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,560
Why?
Like it's interesting.

980
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,800
I'm sitting here and look
forward to you, which I will

981
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,520
never do because I don't run.
Like I I can run from the end of

982
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,640
B terminal in Denver, catch a
train and make it to the A

983
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,840
terminal in 10 minutes and 32
seconds, which is almost too

984
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,680
long, but yeah, OK.
Like I can run from the end of

985
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,280
Chicago to the other end of
Chicago.

986
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:40,720
I can run from Houston.
I've done Newark.

987
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,400
I can.
I run in airports.

988
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,880
I don't.
Run for like OK I can.

989
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,520
I can walk.
All right there with you, man.

990
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,040
There's no point in it like,
although I was kind of buttered

991
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,360
the other day.
Well, in his case it was a

992
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,320
meditative thing.
Yeah, yeah, that was part of it

993
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,200
because I, I, I that's how I
would get into my head and, and

994
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,360
purge the demons and shit and
whatever, whatever kind of

995
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,720
bullshit I was, I was, you know,
dealing with.

996
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,360
It's, it's how I would it's how
I would kind of deal with it

997
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,960
and, and just work through it.
It wasn't necessarily, Oh, this

998
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,120
is, you know, this is it.
It was therapeutic.

999
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Like Mike said, it's just how I
dealt with shit and how it, it,

1000
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:25,800
it, it made me if I was having
like my job's really, really

1001
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,720
stressful selling houses, so
much so I had AI sold the house

1002
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,080
to a hostage negotiator in
Maricopa County.

1003
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,920
And and he told me when all is
said and done, like he wouldn't

1004
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,560
want my job for anything.
Like he talks right, and he

1005
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,840
talks people off buildings.
And so when, when that's the

1006
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,360
thing, when I have, I'm one of
those Realtors that one of those

1007
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,520
people in general that if I have
bad news to share with a client,

1008
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,560
whether it's by or cello, I
don't sleep on it.

1009
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,720
I tell them.
So part of how I would frame,

1010
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,120
how I would approach whatever
bad news I had to share was I'd

1011
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,040
go run, I'd get up in the
morning, I'd go run 3 miles

1012
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,880
every day just to kind of start
the day off, You know, drop

1013
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,320
little man off at school, come
home, take off 3 miles, come

1014
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,880
back half an hour later, day's
good, eat some food.

1015
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,240
Now I'm ready to rock'n'roll,
right?

1016
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,800
And it would just clear the mind
and get everything going, get

1017
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,680
the blood pump and get the the
creative Judy.

1018
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,440
Because I also would think I run
with music.

1019
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,360
But I think about, oh, I could
do this marketing idea.

1020
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,560
I could do this kind of
campaign.

1021
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,160
I could do these kind of videos,
you know, thoughts pop in my

1022
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,440
head and then you.
Run for the same reason I play.

1023
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,600
Yeah, yeah, basically.
Then Lloyd, Lloyd visits.

1024
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,960
Lloyd visits adult resorts and
videotapes their their lack of

1025
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,120
comforters, you know, for his
therapy.

1026
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,760
The comforter's got to be thick
for me.

1027
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,600
I know, I know, dude, I too like
Nikki watched that with me and

1028
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,480
she's like, oh, oh, there's I
would never go to a hotel with

1029
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,400
if they didn't have a comforter
and I'm the same way.

1030
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,040
It's like you got to have you
got to have the comforter, man,

1031
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,880
yes, Like that's the cocoon you
wrap in, right?

1032
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Agree.
You know, it's got, I think it's

1033
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,120
the weight though.
I think the weight true.

1034
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,760
I agree with that.
And I'm like, I like having the,

1035
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,520
I will totally drop that air
conditioner down to like 60.

1036
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,080
So when I wake up, it's like,
yeah -900 in there.

1037
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,960
But I'm not posting the
comforter.

1038
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Yeah, it's.
For I do the same.

1039
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,120
Get my money's worth and I'm
comfortable.

1040
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Yep, I would say that my out is
windshield time just.

1041
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,960
Driving.
Yeah, I I can solve world's

1042
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,040
problems.
I like I my favorite thing to do

1043
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,600
is I come up with business
plans.

1044
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,080
And.
I will get an idea because you

1045
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,200
know, everything in life has
like 5 stages.

1046
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:48,240
It's a dreamer, a planner, a
doer, and an executor kind of

1047
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:51,440
deal.
And there's an evaluation that

1048
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,000
gets fed in between all of that.
Sure.

1049
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,800
I have a thought and then I
determine whether that thought

1050
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,080
is stupid.
And then I mean, and then I try

1051
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,440
to like blow it up and see if
it's worth a day.

1052
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:14,160
And usually I spend way, way,
way too many miles and I blow it

1053
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,080
up and try to find a way out of
it and what can go wrong and

1054
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,080
everything.
Because, you know, I, I've had

1055
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,920
some really great ideas that
have gone really bad.

1056
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Like I, I was doing consulting
for doing construction

1057
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,160
consulting, like you deal in
real estate.

1058
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,760
So if you've got a guy who he
wants to develop a, you know, a

1059
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,080
$50 million assisted living for
old folks.

1060
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,640
People.
And he has no idea about

1061
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,160
construction.
He's going to hire a contractor

1062
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640
and architect, the architects
and the contractors, they're

1063
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,360
going to get paid for the
building no matter what.

1064
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,440
And then they're out in a year.
But he wants to make sure it's

1065
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,320
right in longevity and all that
stuff.

1066
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,440
So they would call me, I would
come in and I would be

1067
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,640
essentially the owner Rep and
basically help them weed through

1068
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:14,320
the regulatory hurdles.
And I was doing great, loved it.

1069
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,120
I worked like maybe 10 days a
month.

1070
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,320
I was making good money.
I was, I was really just having

1071
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,960
a great time.
And the good thing was, I

1072
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,680
actually was doing so good I got
bored.

1073
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Oh.
I well it's a good thing I

1074
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,480
bought another in my truck
because I was in before of an LO

1075
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,360
8 and so I got bored and I
bought another truck.

1076
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,960
OK, Then I bought another truck
and then I bought another truck.

1077
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,120
Wow.
Then 2020 happened and there's

1078
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,480
no more construction there's no
more investment going on and I'm

1079
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,640
like, oh crap, I ain't making no
money.

1080
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,600
So I went back.
I mean, I was already trucking,

1081
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,400
so I just did that pretty well
full time.

1082
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,920
So we.
Spammed it down, loaded up and

1083
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,080
trucking.
We're going to do what they say

1084
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,760
can't be done.
Like a long way to go get there,

1085
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,840
no?
Not my favorite Chrome.

1086
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,400
My favorite chicken lights and
Chrome.

1087
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,480
Is what is it?
Chicken lights and Chrome.

1088
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,000
OK, right on, Right on.
That's a pretty good one, but.

1089
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Hell of a guitar player.
I did that and then my

1090
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,200
backtracking, well, then I ended
up leasing on with a different

1091
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,920
company and in April, actually
we did it in March.

1092
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:41,160
And then the company I was on
with, they, we got another

1093
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,080
driver.
He went through all their

1094
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,000
process and everything, got
approved, drove for two weeks

1095
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:53,640
and then he ended up tearing up
one of the trucks, dumped 300

1096
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,960
gallons of diesel into a
protected waterway.

1097
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,640
Oh.
Oh that that wrecker and clean

1098
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,080
up was super expensive.
Like.

1099
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,200
And then I found out that he
wasn't even on the insurance and

1100
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,920
they weren't going to cover
anything.

1101
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:12,960
Oh no.
Damn.

1102
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,160
And.
How many trucks did you have at

1103
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,360
the time?
Do you have 5 trucks for an

1104
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,680
account?
Right, Three.

1105
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,600
OK.
And so he wasn't on the

1106
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,240
insurance and it would, it just
went downhill.

1107
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Ended up having to sue him one
in arbitration, but then they

1108
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:34,200
appealed and it was in April of
2021.

1109
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,960
We're still waiting.
Waiting still.

1110
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,560
Oh, yeah.
So they spend more on lawyers

1111
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,520
than it would have cost in the
beginning, but that's fine.

1112
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Yeah, they almost got me,
honestly, because like they that

1113
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,360
happened in May.
I ended up going and starting

1114
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,640
doing this delivering trucks
deal about a month.

1115
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Well, that happened in April.
I started doing the delivering

1116
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:10,040
trucks deal in May and then just
kept going and kept going and

1117
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,000
all I was doing was basically
paying the legal fees paying my

1118
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,080
lawyer.
Lawyer was making like 5000 a

1119
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,720
month for the first six months.
Don't know.

1120
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,440
Oh, it's.
We're in.

1121
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,440
We're in the long run of work.
Oh yes, for sure.

1122
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,480
And then my wife got cancer in
October of that year.

1123
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,040
What kind of cancer did she
have?

1124
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,080
She had breast cancer, so.
She got.

1125
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,520
Me whacked off and rebuilt and
now they're out to here and

1126
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,960
she's got a flat tummy and I
love life and.

1127
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,880
And a clean bill of health.
Oh.

1128
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,280
Yeah.
Oh, that's awesome.

1129
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,880
Glad to hear.
So she's actually drive back

1130
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,480
from Louisiana now.
So but the yeah, that was a that

1131
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,480
was kind of a rough time.
We actually ended up losing our

1132
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:57,080
house, which was kind of a
blessing because we had a four

1133
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,760
bedroom house with we're renting
it and it was just us too.

1134
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,440
So we really didn't need all
that much.

1135
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:10,680
Like we had a flood in the house
and we ended up moving into like

1136
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,960
a portion of it in the back
three bedrooms kind of deal.

1137
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,440
And then we ended up there was
other issues and we ended up

1138
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,160
having to move out and we moved
into a hotel room and stayed

1139
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,800
there for like a month.
And then we ended up getting

1140
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,160
this RV, this fifth wheel.
It's it's not like a 25 foot

1141
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,560
camper.
It's like a 43 footer with five

1142
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,320
slides and two bedrooms and
loft.

1143
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,040
It's a bigot.
So but Keller right for us and

1144
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,880
we're we don't have to worry
about it.

1145
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,720
Web life and we're, it's like
basically a lake house worst and

1146
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
we're never here.
Oh nice, right on.

1147
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,840
That's cool.
What's your wife do?

1148
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,720
So she is a super duper badass.
She had.

1149
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,280
Business cards like like, like,
what's his face hat in Pulp

1150
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Fiction?
The wallet's a bad motherfucker.

1151
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:10,600
What's yours?
These are CCT paramedic to doing

1152
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,160
dispatch, emergency medical
dispatch.

1153
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:19,880
And then she ended up being the
supervisor for that company for

1154
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,400
a good chunk of the state of
Texas.

1155
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:30,280
And then she got to be the and
she was the dispatch supervisor

1156
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,040
and then she got to be the EMD
instructor for the entire

1157
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,680
company.
So she trains all the new

1158
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,840
dispatchers.
Wow.

1159
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:43,640
Then she got hired on to the
International Academy, so now

1160
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,400
she's actually going and
training dispatchers all over

1161
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,440
North America, right?
On we need.

1162
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,160
To talk to her too.
Yeah, that would be fun.

1163
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:59,360
Oh, like she's, I don't know
that she would be down for

1164
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,080
sharing stories.
Well.

1165
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,000
Yeah, I know because she's still
in the business.

1166
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,320
I get it.
Well, no, no such as that.

1167
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,720
So like you get people who they
do tell stories and that's their

1168
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,080
form.
So like back when I was I was

1169
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,120
riding a fire truck kind of deal
because that's how we met.

1170
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,920
We met and she was holding C
spine with a car that was

1171
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,960
hanging off the side of a branch
and I was cutting the door off

1172
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,040
of it.
Wow, right.

1173
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:31,720
You, you get this box that you
put that stuff in and you don't

1174
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,520
bring it out.
So like for her, everybody

1175
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,560
lives, everybody's going to have
this.

1176
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,760
She's continued that story.
It plays out and it's wonderful.

1177
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,840
She'll actually lie to her
people and tell her, Oh yeah,

1178
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,680
they're fine, good job.
Kind of different question when

1179
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,840
something's bugging them.
I mean, not all the time for

1180
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,920
some that you'll be honest with
them, like if they take a call

1181
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,120
and then it's going to make the
news, she's honest with them.

1182
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,560
No, that totally makes sense.
Yeah, but then like, like it's

1183
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,320
actually been on Cops twice.
Oh, no shit.

1184
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,680
Yeah, that's awesome.
The cop that I mentioned

1185
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,400
earlier, the the hostage
negotiator, he he transitioned

1186
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,880
into human remains.
So he, he's retired now, but he

1187
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,400
still kind of pursues that
because in his, in his mind,

1188
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,040
his, his, his focus on it is
every, everybody, just

1189
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,480
everybody, not 2 these two words
deserves a name.

1190
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,360
So he actually, they, it's still
cold case files, all that kind

1191
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,000
of stuff, but they'll actually,
they try to put a name to the

1192
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,680
remains that they come across,
which is.

1193
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,920
That's awesome, which is huge
for the family.

1194
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,520
Right, absolutely, absolutely.
So I but I get that.

1195
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,400
I get that because his because
he he he has a foundation he

1196
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,720
created.
I forget what's called Tom my

1197
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,320
head, but it's all about the
PTSD because you can't as

1198
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,240
firefighters and police
officers, you're not allowed to

1199
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,000
talk.
You're not allowed to share the

1200
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,720
chaos and what you're dealing
with.

1201
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,320
Like one of my one of my past
friends was a was a captain from

1202
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,440
fire department and they would
leave a scene that was

1203
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,640
completely traumatic, right?
You know, blown somebody, blew

1204
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,080
their brains out, blood over the
walls, you know, just total,

1205
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,440
absolute chaos and just, you
know, they would walk out of the

1206
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,040
house.
What what are the situation?

1207
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Get back to the station.
You good?

1208
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,040
Yeah, I'm good.
You good?

1209
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:12,960
Yeah, I'm good.
That was it.

1210
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,400
That was the extent of the
conversation.

1211
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,800
So that's why there's so much
suicide, right?

1212
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,960
And those in the first
responders world because they

1213
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,920
don't they've been conditioned
not to talk about it.

1214
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,480
You're weak if you talk about
it.

1215
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,240
You're weak if you say that
affected me and and.

1216
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,440
So isn't that what Peter from
Australia said too?

1217
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,320
That same.
Kind of that's kind.

1218
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,360
Of where he had he lost his edge
is kind of the way he described

1219
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,680
it, because he had a traumatic
event in his life that brought

1220
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,840
all that to the forefront of his
mind at the same time.

1221
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,360
So imagine that.
Yeah, they don't process it.

1222
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,520
So I can see why your wife
approaches it like that.

1223
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Because you, you how else are
you going to cope, right?

1224
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,520
I mean, if you if you fail to
resuscitate a 2 year old child

1225
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,000
that you pulled out of a pool,
how do you carry that shit with

1226
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,080
you the rest of the day, let
alone the rest of your life if

1227
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,360
you don't have a way?
It takes a special kind of

1228
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,800
human, and I'm glad they're out
there because I'm not that

1229
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,360
special human in that
department, you know?

1230
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,480
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1231
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,360
So, but that's, but that was the
thing with him that he started

1232
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:16,080
his foundation about it was it
was, it was a A1800 number for

1233
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,320
officers that just didn't know
how to cope, but they could call

1234
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,360
it.
And then they would work within

1235
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,880
24 hours to get them placement
anonymously and kind of help

1236
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,760
them start working through their
problems and their chaos.

1237
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,960
Because again, too many of the
first responders take their own

1238
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,240
lives because they don't know
how to deal and they don't have

1239
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,800
an outlet to purge it.
I've been through therapy.

1240
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,600
And if you, if you don't, if you
don't purge the chaos, man, it

1241
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,440
just, it just buries and builds
inside you until one of you just

1242
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,760
going to go.
I agree.

1243
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,840
Don't explode.
So I'll.

1244
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,520
Give you a little food for
thought on that.

1245
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,520
So you you, you said
firefighters and cops, right?

1246
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,840
Yep.
You know most EMS is ran by

1247
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,360
third party companies and
paramedics and basics who run

1248
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,600
them aren't department.
Right.

1249
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,800
Oh yeah?
Well, that's why I said first

1250
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,280
responders too.
They they never get very much

1251
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,600
acknowledgeable and there's no
support for it, but you know,

1252
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,960
there is absolutely no support
for it.

1253
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:14,480
Dispatchers, the dispatchers on
the trying to tell someone how

1254
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,880
to help the other person and on
the phone while they're

1255
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,000
screaming and talking about how
their loved one is dying and

1256
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,040
they can't do a Dang thing about
it except sit there and go

1257
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,600
through this script and OK,
check this box, what about this?

1258
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,880
OK, and relay the information
and be like, they're still 10

1259
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,600
1/2 minutes away.
I'm going to need to go ahead

1260
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,840
and continue doing chest
compressions, OK?

1261
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,600
No, you're going to have to pull
them up.

1262
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:46,560
And I don't stop doing it and
then click, yeah, that's it.

1263
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,439
And you never know the end of
the story.

1264
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,600
And it's just like.
I couldn't do that shit, dude.

1265
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,439
That would drive me.
That's.

1266
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,439
Like that old shaving her got
Dick Dick then.

1267
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,880
Yeah, you're shaving her got 2
bits.

1268
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,520
Yeah, I couldn't.
You hear the most horrific part

1269
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,560
of the story and never the end.
Right, Yeah, I mean, don't get

1270
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,399
me wrong.
There's there's I've actually

1271
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:13,960
sit there and and brought her to
lunch kind of deal and listen to

1272
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,920
some of those calls.
And I come from that background.

1273
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,200
So I understand it, but there
are calls that she'll get that

1274
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,200
are just so she has to be
professional.

1275
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,240
Like think about it.
I'm not going to say this is or

1276
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,399
is not in one of them.
So but think about the the

1277
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,600
dispatcher who takes the call of
the guy who slipped and fell in

1278
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,680
a soap bottle in the shower.
Yeah.

1279
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,240
Right, you know they want to
laugh.

1280
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,640
Yeah, yeah.
Really.

1281
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,279
Yeah.
Like, you know, there's

1282
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,920
something going on.
I'll.

1283
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,600
Tell you the best one I ever
heard Lloyd was and it's on

1284
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,240
YouTube.
If if I knew the name of the

1285
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,440
clip, I would say it so people
could go find it.

1286
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:02,640
But there's two cops that stole
the weed from the teenagers that

1287
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,240
they busted.
It was a husband and wife.

1288
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,200
They were both cops.
They took it home, obviously,

1289
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,800
they smoked the weed.
They called 911 because they

1290
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,440
thought they were dying and.
The dispatcher knew.

1291
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:18,720
Exactly what was going on.
And to your point, she never

1292
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,160
laughed, but she had such a
sense of humor about it because

1293
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,320
she never said she never had any
kind of sense of urgency.

1294
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,480
You know, it was just like,
yeah, OK, we'll get somebody

1295
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:31,720
right out there.
And, you know, the guy just kept

1296
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,080
saying, I'm pretty sure we're
dying.

1297
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,720
Send them fast.
And finally, she said, you may

1298
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,920
think you're dying, but you're
not dying.

1299
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,560
You know, just relax.
Just take a deep breath.

1300
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,640
Listen to yourself breathing.
I I will say I have never done

1301
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,800
any drugs whatsoever.
That's surprising because you're

1302
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,360
a truck driver.
And I know, and I know it's a

1303
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:58,160
stereotype, but truck drivers on
a whole, right, Because they're

1304
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,600
long hours and shit, they all
kind of, I'm not going to say

1305
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,360
all.
OK, let me ask him this then.

1306
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,360
Is that an old stereotype or is
that still fairly?

1307
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,400
Proud.
That was an old stereotype.

1308
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,840
Really like it is my bad.
I'm sorry.

1309
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,040
No, no, no it.
No, it was and back when we were

1310
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,880
young that was, you know, that
was occurs in cocaine.

1311
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,800
Yeah, OK.
Now, no, these trucks literally

1312
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:28,520
drive themselves like the the
one that I I'm in right now, it

1313
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,960
does 70 miles an hour on the
cruise control.

1314
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,800
It has lane disks, so you, you
just have to hold your hands on

1315
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,720
the wheel.
It will stay in a lane.

1316
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,800
If a car slows down in front of
you, it slows down.

1317
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,520
If it knows there's a curve
ahead, it slows down.

1318
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,200
If that senses that the speed
limit changes, it slows down.

1319
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,640
If it senses there's an
obstruction in the roadway, it

1320
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,600
slows down.
That's crazy, I see more guys

1321
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,680
watching porn going down the
road.

1322
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,120
Oh no shit, have a.
Towel on their head.

1323
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,720
That's the new addiction.
Wow.

1324
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,920
See, there was there was an
accident in Phoenix not too long

1325
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,760
ago on on our our our street
from our highway from the street

1326
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:15,360
from Tucson to Phoenix truck
driver head on collision that

1327
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,960
chaos man.
I don't know if four or five

1328
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,040
people died.
Explosion shut the the highway

1329
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,840
down for hours and hours and
hours.

1330
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,720
It came back.
It was on TikTok now it makes

1331
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,600
sense because I didn't.
Nobody says the screen.

1332
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,240
I just thought he was on his
phone on TikTok and but I didn't

1333
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,320
know why would I know the trucks
were automatic driving.

1334
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,360
Well, OK, they're not
technically, they just have.

1335
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,520
Something.
I get what you're saying.

1336
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,320
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
But they're they're pretty.

1337
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,440
It could have been something
like.

1338
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:44,400
It could have been something
like that.

1339
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,760
Like you said though, like right
where where it's so automated,

1340
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,600
he's just zoned out and watching
Reels on TikTok and then you

1341
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,800
know.
Yeah, and just pass the time

1342
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,720
away because you literally have
to sit there and you've got a

1343
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,760
log book that's electronic.
Now.

1344
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,080
Now, granted, I don't have to
deal with that stuff because I'm

1345
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:08,440
actually like, you can't put an
ELD in a brand new truck being

1346
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:12,200
delivered.
So you just, it's basically like

1347
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,600
paper logs, like old school.
That's why I enjoy doing it.

1348
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,880
But yeah, they've got it to
where literally it every metric

1349
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,840
is mapped out for you.
And you have to stay driving for

1350
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:29,400
however 8 hours.
And then you stop for 30 minutes

1351
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,800
and you got another 3 1/2 hours.
But if your time runs out when

1352
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,600
you're sitting on the side of
the road, you're just stuck on

1353
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,200
the side of the road for 10
hours.

1354
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,800
The cop tells you to move it 9
hours and 53 minutes.

1355
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,000
Then you're just screwed kind of
stuff.

1356
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,200
And you got to bust your time.
And everybody hates drivers.

1357
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,920
And I would not do that.
Ever.

1358
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,360
You cannot.
They try to hire me every time,

1359
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,840
everywhere I go there.
You want a job?

1360
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,120
Nope.
Do you ever ask him under these

1361
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,920
circumstances, or they just
can't violate those rules?

1362
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,720
No, no, that's federal law.
You can't.

1363
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,080
That's what I thought.
Those are dot standards, right?

1364
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,880
Yeah, so the the mega carriers
killed the industry.

1365
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,160
And what?
OK, so what's the mega carrier?

1366
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Because I don't understand what
that is.

1367
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,960
Swift.
Swift, actually Swift Night

1368
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,320
Swift.
That's Med carrier.

1369
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,520
They, they killed the industry
initially.

1370
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,960
They they were one of them.
And they started trying to

1371
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:30,640
essentially hire in any warm
body that they could find and

1372
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,040
they would run it through their
training school and then they

1373
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,640
got him in CDL and then sent him
out on the road.

1374
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,320
But they were self insured.
So if they wrecked, it didn't

1375
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,800
matter.
OK, so because they were self

1376
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,800
insured then it didn't matter to
them.

1377
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,040
But then all the other trucking
companies in the area who were

1378
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,280
not self insured went.
Their rates went up because

1379
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,560
there's so many wrecks from all
these swift drivers.

1380
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,040
Oh.
Yeah, OK.

1381
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:08,280
Well, it gets worse, right.
So and then in 2016 I believe it

1382
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:13,120
was they started allowing, I
believe it was the Obama

1383
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:20,560
administration who allowed this
for so they, they allowed for

1384
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:27,560
H1B visas to be no, I'm sorry, I
remember it.

1385
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,640
I may be confused.
So it's either H1B visas or non

1386
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,720
domicile CDLS were allowed to be
hired to all of these trucking

1387
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,920
companies in the Obama
administration, 2016 beginning I

1388
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:50,720
believe and then 2021 they did
either the H1B visa or the non

1389
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,760
domicile CDI.
Think that one was the non

1390
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,600
domicile CDL that they would
allow.

1391
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,040
If you had an H1B visa and a non
domicile CDL, you could truck

1392
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,160
throughout the country.
It wasn't a big deal.

1393
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,240
OK, How?
Previously, if you were you had

1394
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,560
an international driver's
license out of Mexico, you could

1395
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,880
drive up to Chicago, drop your
load, turn around, pick up

1396
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,280
something and take it back to
Mexico.

1397
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,000
OK.
Well, you have to follow a

1398
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,720
specific route.
No, no.

1399
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,080
OK.
So but after they did that non

1400
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,240
domicile CDL, you'd get a
company that's based out of

1401
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Mexico that they'll have a USDOT
number and then they'll have A1

1402
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,440
truck registered in the US.
So they're registered in both

1403
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,120
countries.
And then they'll take all those

1404
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,640
Mexican drivers who have H1B
visas and non domicile CDLS and

1405
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,600
they'll do all this point to
point transport.

1406
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,600
Now Chicago, they mainly are ran
by like the Russian mob kind of

1407
01:16:54,640 --> 01:17:00,400
deal and they use a lot of like
Ukrainian essentially slaves

1408
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,960
that they bring them over as H1B
visas and then get them non

1409
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,240
domicile CDLS and then like
I've.

1410
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,400
Actually, you told me this is, I
think you told me about this

1411
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,240
when we talked, right?
I might have it's it's it's

1412
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,280
where.
Where there the the cost of of

1413
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,960
those drivers, what they charge
is like next to nothing and it's

1414
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,680
kind of destroying your industry
on a whole.

1415
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,720
It's a mile.
Yeah, keep, keep going because

1416
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,160
this.
Is yeah, keep going, keep going.

1417
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,720
I just, it's just yeah, it's
just, it's just.

1418
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,800
I remembered that conversation.
But yeah, keep explaining

1419
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:30,840
please.
Yeah.

1420
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,920
So they they got all these guys
coming in and they're just

1421
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,560
flooding the industry.
Well, so now they've got all

1422
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,960
these different trucking
companies and these different

1423
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,720
entities that are like 1020
trucks what or whatnot leasing

1424
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,160
all these trucks and they're
putting these drivers in them.

1425
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,160
And then once they smoke out
ADOT number, they just move all

1426
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,960
those drivers to another dot
number.

1427
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,200
So like what?
Do you mean what do you mean

1428
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,440
smoke it out?
What do you mean smoke out?

1429
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,200
The dot number ruin it to where
the USDOT shuts them down.

1430
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,640
Shuts, not the carrier.
But they don't have any asset or

1431
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,120
they get a huge wreck and kill
everybody.

1432
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:17,200
So like the a couple of months
ago there was a a guy from

1433
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,920
Ethiopia and I don't know if
you've seen Tik toks and reels

1434
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,360
about truck drivers in Ethiopia.
I'm not big on top.

1435
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,560
Very good.
That's because they're supposed

1436
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,120
to run, man.
Ethiopians are runners, dude.

1437
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,240
They run like the marathons and,
and the, you know, all that

1438
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,560
shit.
They're the ones that win the

1439
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,120
Boston and New York Marathon.
They're not.

1440
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,000
They're not driving trucks.
Apparently.

1441
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:44,760
Well, he ran fast.
He that guy literally had just

1442
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,120
been given a ticket for like 55
miles an hour over the speed

1443
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,000
limit.
Oh God.

1444
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,680
Gosh, two weeks, two or three
weeks previous, hadn't gone to

1445
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,000
court on it yet.
And then he's doing like 85

1446
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,760
miles an hour pulling an Amazon
trailer, pops over a hill,

1447
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,760
there's construction, never
shuts it down and just plows

1448
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,280
through a bunch of bars and
kills 5.

1449
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,360
And it was like holy cow.
And they thought the dude was

1450
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:23,800
intoxicated because he was just
like he found very not all their

1451
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,960
kind of deal.
Turned out he was actually

1452
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,280
completely sober.
He was just a blooming idiot.

1453
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,280
So.
But those type of drivers have

1454
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,520
infiltrated the truck driving
industries and ruined it.

1455
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,520
Now you get the a lot of the
ones up in Chicago, they

1456
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,880
actually have to have a lot of
the loads.

1457
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,160
They have a special insurance on
them because they'll hijack the

1458
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:56,400
load in, ransom it and make
really extra money for it to.

1459
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,600
Explain how that works.
Yeah, so.

1460
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:04,120
They'll you'll get one of these
companies that they'll catch the

1461
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:10,720
load from a broker.
And then they'll take it and

1462
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,800
they'll be like, this load
doesn't pay enough money.

1463
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,520
They've already picked it up.
Like we're not delivering it

1464
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,760
unless you paid this money.
Right.

1465
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:24,560
Oh, and it may be 1/2 the value
of the load kind of deal.

1466
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,600
And then they'll sit there and
sit on it.

1467
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,800
And then finally they'll pay it
out and they'll deliver it

1468
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,760
because the customer needs it.
Now let me ask you this Who are

1469
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,880
they doing that to?
Because they wouldn't do that to

1470
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,560
a company like Amazon, would
they?

1471
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,560
No, they mainly do it to like
actual brokerages.

1472
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:48,000
Amazon isn't that big of I.
I actually have hauled Amazon

1473
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,280
freight.
I hauled a trailer with one box

1474
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,080
in it are.
You kidding me?

1475
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,120
Yeah, it was just literally.
A full size trailer with one box

1476
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,680
in it.
One box, that was it.

1477
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,160
It was.
I went from San Marcus up to

1478
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,120
Dallas, down to Houston and back
over to San Marcus.

1479
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,680
With a box.
What was the box?

1480
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,320
No, no, I was.
Too curious?

1481
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,080
Two of them weren't loaded, the
other one was just.

1482
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,040
It was just a box.
Were you curious what was in the

1483
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,520
box?
I'd be like, what's in that box?

1484
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,560
Man, but I felt like I felt
like, you know, Tom Hanks and

1485
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:27,960
that maybe kept way by the way,
I actually but down the road

1486
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,800
from where that box was
supposedly delivered.

1487
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,960
Yeah.
From the movie that way.

1488
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,560
Interesting.
I thought it was fun.

1489
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,040
Yeah, that's interesting.
That's.

1490
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,360
Coming.
Yeah, there's a lot of problems

1491
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,080
in the trucking industry.
It's horrible.

1492
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:50,040
So I would never advise anybody
to be a truck driver ever.

1493
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,920
OK.
'Cause I wasn't looking, I

1494
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,240
wasn't looking to be a truck
driver.

1495
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:59,200
Are you sure?
Does that make it not a viable

1496
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,360
industry to make a living in
anymore or as an owner?

1497
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:09,960
Because you see all these ads
that say, you know, come work

1498
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:15,040
for us and make $4000 a week or
whatever, 2 I might be

1499
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,960
exaggerated.
Maybe it's 2 grand a week.

1500
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,920
That's the righteous bucks,
though.

1501
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:28,400
I I made in this week.
I grossed out $7500 a week.

1502
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,720
But are you working for
yourself?

1503
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,880
Are you an owner operator?
I essentially go I'm under a

1504
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:38,720
broker but but like $7500
roughly.

1505
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,560
What did you pay the broker?
Well, so they they actually, I

1506
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,800
don't know when they get.
Oh, so they'll take their cut

1507
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,240
out of that 7500?
Never know what they're charging

1508
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,360
OK like this much like.
Right.

1509
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,320
Yeah, OK.
But you still, you're still not

1510
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,320
you're, you're still going to
make and you don't have to

1511
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,000
answer that, but you're still
going to make at least half of

1512
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,160
that that you earned.
Yeah, no, I probably I, I, I

1513
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:05,080
will clear after everything.
I'll clear about 1500.

1514
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,720
OK, Oh, that's a drag.
Taxes and everything.

1515
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:15,280
Well that now to granted there
are other expenses on my taxes

1516
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:20,720
for things.
OK, I mean I like I have video

1517
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,200
equipment that I have to use to
make my YouTube videos.

1518
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,920
Oh yes, this is true for.
Sure.

1519
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,880
Yeah, yeah, different things.
My flights I have to pay for my

1520
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,280
club membership.
You got to pay for the flights.

1521
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,160
They don't pay for your flights.
Well, no, I mean I have to pay

1522
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,320
for all of it all the time,
like.

1523
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,880
Well, I don't know, that's why I
asked.

1524
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:43,200
Yeah, but we use when you try to
work in like all the fuel.

1525
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,400
I pay for all the fuel Ubers.
I had to pay for wreckers to

1526
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,000
undeck them, which just
basically some like crane dough

1527
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:59,320
pick off the back of it.
Yeah, all that comes into play.

1528
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,400
Got to pay for it and then later
on if I get claims like I had

1529
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:09,160
one that the there was a thing
rubbing on the back of the cab,

1530
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,560
so the back of the cab's got to
be repainted.

1531
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,680
So that's going to cost me $1000
down the road kind of deal,

1532
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,640
right?
And I pay insurance thing for it

1533
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,960
but still all that.
It's.

1534
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,000
Not the most.
That's what I was going to say.

1535
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,960
So it's not the most lucrative
thing in the world, but you

1536
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,200
consistently are working for the
most part.

1537
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,000
And because you don't have a
massive overhead now because of

1538
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,000
how you adjusted your lifestyle,
you know?

1539
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:42,400
We do OK and like we end up
doing our like granted trying to

1540
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,600
make my my YouTube channel
actually profitable.

1541
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,000
While you're yeah, yeah out
there, Yeah, so do you.

1542
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,480
Are you dropping shorts every
day?

1543
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,600
No.
OK, so this is so this is we got

1544
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,920
about we got about what are we
at?

1545
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,120
We're at here.
We got about 5-6 minutes left, 5

1546
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,400
minutes left.
So some, some some things that

1547
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,920
cause I've had my real estate
used YouTube channel for over 20

1548
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,600
years.
OK, so in perspective, I'm at

1549
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,080
about half a million views and I
have almost 2000 videos.

1550
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:18,200
OK, our show, we have a hundred
107 videos and then we started.

1551
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,000
Up 300 and something.
OK, and and that's because of

1552
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,400
shorts.
So in March I started dropping

1553
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,360
shorts Lloyd twice a day.
OK, every day, twice a day.

1554
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,800
I'm my shorts are still loading,
are still going till I think I'm

1555
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,280
in at the end of July now.
OK, that alone has drawn massive

1556
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:36,880
attention because I'm using
Dave.

1557
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,600
Remember who Dave is to give me
my SEO content, my hashtags, my

1558
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,280
keywords.
I plan them out consistently

1559
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,560
every day at 10:00 AM and 4:00
PM.

1560
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,520
You can go to our channel and
see a new short drop.

1561
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,880
Days of the show, I'm sorry,
6:00 AM and 4:00 PM days of the

1562
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,280
show, they're shorts at six AM,
4:00 PM, but then the show

1563
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,760
actually drops at 10 AM.
So Wednesdays and Sundays

1564
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,600
there's three video droppings.
Every other day of the week

1565
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,760
there's two dropping.
Then I'm trying to get in the

1566
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,760
habit of dropping a short 1/3
short the day before each show

1567
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,840
announcing who's coming on
tomorrow to the show.

1568
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,640
OK, that alone has really has
taken us from the first year

1569
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,400
where you're on doing this.
It was 1 to 28,000 and three

1570
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,960
months like Mike we talked about
earlier.

1571
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,960
We jumped from 28,000 to 100,000
views.

1572
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:26,600
Our subscribers are still under
100, but they're still watching

1573
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,040
it, which makes it more relevant
with the Google spiders and

1574
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,640
stuff that goes on the Internet.
So if you start doing something

1575
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,520
like that, shorts are 3045,
sixty second clips.

1576
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,920
If you start consistently
dropping something every day, a

1577
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,600
couple times a day, and schedule
them out like I've been doing, I

1578
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,960
think you'll see a lot more
growth with your thing.

1579
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,880
And then obviously get on some
on social media platforms that

1580
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,560
go with content traders and go
with podcast, which is how I

1581
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,720
found you on one of the podcast
pages, right?

1582
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,760
That that helped us because
we're doing it all organically.

1583
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,600
We're not spending money to grow
our stuff.

1584
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,720
Yeah, luckily for him, I watched
the numbers like a hawk.

1585
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,640
I just didn't see is the he
didn't even know what he was

1586
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,400
doing.
He just, he was trying an idea

1587
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,920
like you said, you know, being
creative, you try ideas, a lot

1588
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,680
of them failed.
That's what people don't

1589
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,640
understand is creative minds.
You had 100 bad ideas before you

1590
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,800
came up with that one that
finally the light bulb, you were

1591
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,160
able to work it all the way
through.

1592
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,320
I do the same thing as you.
I look for all the angles that

1593
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,320
are going to destroy this idea,
right?

1594
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,800
And sometimes I find it real
quick.

1595
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,760
Sometimes it takes me days,
months, weeks, years, whatever.

1596
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,480
But I like that analogy because
I kind of do the same thing.

1597
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:45,440
What I started seeing was his
consistency drew attention to

1598
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:47,840
the algorithm that YouTube uses,
right?

1599
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,200
So all the sudden we were in
front of people that we normally

1600
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,040
otherwise would not have been
right.

1601
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,800
Right, and we've grown from a
podcast standpoint.

1602
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,160
We're #3 in Phoenix now.
We were in the top ten about six

1603
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,240
months into it.
But we, we broke the top three,

1604
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,280
I think a couple months ago
under the arts and entertainment

1605
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,840
category because let's face it,
that's what podcasts are.

1606
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,400
But that's pretty cool to have
dropped poked the top three.

1607
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,160
And in that same amount of time,
we went from like just the

1608
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:19,560
United States and Japan, because
his son was stationed in Japan

1609
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,920
at the time, to 2 count.
We went from two countries to 19

1610
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,520
countries with that consistency,
doing it all the time.

1611
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,280
Yeah, which is cool.
So I, I have shorts, OK, yeah,

1612
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:37,520
I, I don't drop them that often.
We do them on our big resort

1613
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:42,040
stays and but I don't
necessarily do them on the

1614
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,360
little ones because of the fact
of how I have to do the filming

1615
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,640
and things.
It can but see a short dude, a

1616
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,400
short dude can be anything.
Just like with my what I've

1617
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,440
learned from our podcast, I'm
taking over to my real estate

1618
01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:56,920
guy 1.
So I started my own moment with

1619
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,000
the real estate guy podcast on
my page because I'd like why

1620
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,600
not?
So I in order to do shorts on

1621
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,480
this kind of platform, I got to
record 5 minutes.

1622
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,520
So I'm going to have a couple
industry guests on so I can

1623
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,400
start getting shorts together.
But a short can be you walking.

1624
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,800
It can be.
It doesn't have to necessarily

1625
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,720
be just about what your content
is.

1626
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,680
People will, will, will
gravitate to you as an

1627
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,040
individual more than it will as
a business.

1628
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:24,520
So you could, you could when you
have your trucks on trucks on

1629
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,080
trucks on trucks, that could be
a 32nd short man today I'm going

1630
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,400
look at all these whatever
you're hauling.

1631
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,560
I'm this is where I'm going
today.

1632
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,080
Something you see funny on the
road.

1633
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,680
You look at this crap.
You know, this guy's got the

1634
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,160
hood over his thing driving his
truck.

1635
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,720
He's you know what I mean?
Stuff like that.

1636
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,280
Keeps people coming.
Back it keeps them engaged so.

1637
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,120
Right, back to your main
message.

1638
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,440
First, I kind of wondered what
he was doing because we're

1639
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:50,000
trying to push a podcast.
But what we?

1640
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,280
But what I noticed was that does
exactly that.

1641
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,960
You know, people see that 45
seconds, and they want to hear

1642
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,640
what the end of the story is.
That's human nature.

1643
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,120
I would too, right?
You would, too, if it's

1644
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,720
something you're interested in.
You're like, hey, man, I want to

1645
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,160
know the end of this.
Well, luckily for us, Chris has

1646
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,920
a link to all that stuff at the
end.

1647
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,160
Here's the episode.
Right.

1648
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,400
Yeah.
So.

1649
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,240
Check out the shorts that I have
over on Room by the Hour on

1650
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,560
YouTube.
That's what I'm saying, but

1651
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,200
that's what I'm saying.
Do that and do little teasers.

1652
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,160
Hey, next month and really it
can be sitting in front of your

1653
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,280
camera like this where you're at
now.

1654
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,320
Hey, next month, check it out.
We're going to go to this place

1655
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,160
and this place you're going to
want to check, you want to, you

1656
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,160
know, TuneIn to see what these
resorts are about.

1657
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,720
You know, when you get there,
you just film yourself walking

1658
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,040
up to the resort for 20 seconds.
That's a short, man.

1659
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,080
You drop the short.
So that way as you go through

1660
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,640
your editing process, a filming
process, every day, you're just

1661
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,760
dropping these little teasers.
Because like money buddy, if I

1662
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,080
watch that now, I want to see
the rest of it, right?

1663
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,080
Yes, that's the whole point.
I'm sure I didn't.

1664
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:55,960
I didn't know it dude.
I didn't realize it till we

1665
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,480
started.
I started doing it with this and

1666
01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:00,320
then and then Mike started
telling me numbers and I was

1667
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,000
like, oh light bulb Bing.
This actually drives people and

1668
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,000
keeps this relevant on something
because seriously three months

1669
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,600
almost 70,000 views is insane If
you know advertising right, If

1670
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,760
you compare it to my business
page, which is half a million

1671
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,880
views in over 20 years and I
have serious cut.

1672
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,000
I was on the radio for a year.
I had five videos every time an

1673
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,480
episode dropped on the radio.
I ran good news Arizona for 106

1674
01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:28,480
episodes, which had three to
four videos every single episode

1675
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,920
that aired.
I was on American Dream TV.

1676
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,520
Google that it's a whole real
estate platform that based out

1677
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,200
of California.
I I and I make videos on my HUD

1678
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,440
houses.
I mean, I just, I have an

1679
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:41,960
unlimited amount of playlists.
I have so much content, it's

1680
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,160
insane that I only have 500,000
views in over 20 years.

1681
01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:47,480
So if you do these little
things, I think you'll see a

1682
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:53,600
growth.
So I'm at like roughly about,

1683
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:59,560
I'm going to say 350,000 years.
That's three.

1684
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,560
Years.
See, that's fantastic, man.

1685
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,520
Like that's the thing.
I I made a mistake somewhere

1686
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,680
along the lines with mine, but
with this growing as quick as it

1687
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,240
is and yeah, he's.
Averaging 100,000 views a year.

1688
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,640
That's good.
Yeah, so I would you start

1689
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,240
dropping shorts.
I think your number's going to

1690
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:16,800
go up, man.
Yeah, you're.

1691
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,360
Going to start to go up like
threefold to begin with and then

1692
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,680
that will take itself off.
Yeah.

1693
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,640
So I'll be honest, I'm, I'm
actually kind of holding back

1694
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,440
from that right now, OK.
We're done.

1695
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:35,520
You're, you're so I had a friend
and he had, he started a YouTube

1696
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:42,560
channel and he, his second video
went viral and he was instantly

1697
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,840
monetized.
And his second video was

1698
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,160
absolutely stupid.
It was nothing that he wanted to

1699
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,800
make this part about or his
channel about.

1700
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,240
And then everybody was like,
anyway, where's that?

1701
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,000
Where's the content?
Where's the stuff?

1702
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,440
And it ended up like mentally
breaking the dude because he

1703
01:33:02,440 --> 01:33:05,400
didn't have a back story, he
didn't have a.

1704
01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:06,960
History.
Yeah, OK.

1705
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:13,080
And so I kind of told myself
like, I'm not going to try to do

1706
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:18,320
anything to really blow this up.
OK, Well, after I can get

1707
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,200
content and I get a following it
that way, you can go back and

1708
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,440
you can see that my first videos
suck.

1709
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,440
My first video.
Trust.

1710
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,440
Us of like the the the intro
video is horrible because I'm

1711
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:36,560
literally talking about the meth
I found in the coffee pot in

1712
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,760
Econo Lodge in London, KY.
Oh God.

1713
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:45,040
Oh is it I?
I've had many, many wonderful

1714
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,240
experiences in hotels.
I love it, don't get me wrong.

1715
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,320
I've I've had to make my own bed
before.

1716
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,600
Yeah.
I've had to be like, Nope, I've

1717
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:59,160
had one hotel in Ohio that I I
finally got a room on the third

1718
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,640
try kind of deal like that was
that was fun.

1719
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:09,200
But yeah, no, I I'm so the
reason I was dabbling in the AI

1720
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,600
editors and stuff was because I
was going to try to just

1721
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,320
basically feed it into there and
let it drop them for me.

1722
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,160
But I haven't found one that I
liked because they all suck.

1723
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,840
So even when you pay for it.
I like this one.

1724
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,960
Riverside actually does a really
nice job.

1725
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,160
All the shorts that you see are
pretty much theirs.

1726
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:35,160
I cut a few of them up myself,
but probably 98% of them are the

1727
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,640
ones that they did automatically
for me.

1728
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,280
I just tell them how long I want
it to be and then Chris puts

1729
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:47,080
them on a schedule.
So you know this, we do pay for

1730
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,040
this, but I got to give them
credit.

1731
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,080
They've they've made huge
improvements in the year.

1732
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,840
Well, almost two years we've
used them.

1733
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:58,040
They do a really nice job.
Yeah, yeah, they do for sure.

1734
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,000
We're.
Going to wrap up, wrap the heat,

1735
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,040
but we're going to wrap it to
you wrap the show up.

1736
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,080
That's all folks.
That's all folks.

1737
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,960
So yeah, go go ahead, Lloyd,
plug yourself.

1738
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,880
Yes, please.
Give yourself a plug.

1739
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:17,120
So room of the hour on YouTube,
it's a value based Travel

1740
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,120
Channel to where we look at how
much it actually costs to go on

1741
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:25,120
a cruise or resorts or take a
trip up to the northeast or stay

1742
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,160
in Nashville for a weekend for
the fun of it.

1743
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:31,760
Or go to California or Vegas or
do a flight across the country

1744
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:37,120
with some dude who at 24,000,000
miles or Cancun or yeah, you do

1745
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,960
a lot of stuff.
Me and the wife.

1746
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:42,240
It's not about hooker hotels,
but I stayed in the water.

1747
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,640
Room by the Hour on YouTube,
right?

1748
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,000
Room by the hour on YouTube and
we've always we always wrap our

1749
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,000
show up with this.
Don't let the bad days when if

1750
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,880
you're feeling sad, depressed,
lonely, you know, find somebody

1751
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,400
to reach out to them because if
you take your own life, you're

1752
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,920
going to leave a hole in
somebody's heart tomorrow.

1753
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,840
Somebody does love you, even if
you don't think they do.

1754
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,160
So reach out to somebody, get
some help, wake up tomorrow and

1755
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,040
it'll be a better day because
tomorrow is always a better day

1756
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,360
than how you're feeling today.
You can find us on Instagram,

1757
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,240
Facebook, working on a on a
website, as well as also YouTube

1758
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,080
as we're streaming here live
right now.

1759
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,600
So those of you that watched
hello until next time we'll see

1760
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,440
you.
Thanks for being on the show,

1761
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:23,280
Lloyd.
We appreciate your great

1762
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:24,440
conversation, man.
Let's.

1763
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:25,600
Talk again.
Thanks for coming on.

1764
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,480
Nice meeting you, Lloyd.
How?

1765
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:28,720
Are you?
All right, guys.

1766
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:29,880
Have a great day.
Love you brother.

1767
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,200
Love you too brother.
Bye bye.

1768
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,400
We don't want to fly in this
door for you.

1769
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,440
Look the tablet.
Go insane.

1770
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:49,480
Feel the tears.
Open your light on your journey.

1771
01:36:49,480 --> 01:37:03,070
Feel the trail behind your eyes.
Feel yourself and need your

1772
01:37:05,310 --> 01:37:06,310
turn.
Take a moment.

1773
01:37:07,150 --> 01:37:10,270
Look.
Until you see it, what you say

1774
01:37:10,270 --> 01:37:14,040
on it.
Oh yeah.

1775
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:57,600
Come down here, we haven't found
the almighty.

1776
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:11,680
You got a dream.
Who in your life, every day take

1777
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,840
your turn behind your eyes, Feel
the soul revolution now.

1778
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:26,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1779
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,920
Take a moment.
Listen to your tear.

1780
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,240
Fight the battle with you more
clear.

1781
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:05,540
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.