July 30, 2025

#119 - Yury - Growing Up Behind the Iron Curtain

#119 - Yury - Growing Up Behind the Iron Curtain

Hello Friends

In this engaging conversation, Yury shares his unique journey from growing up in the Soviet Union to transitioning to life in America. He reflects on the cultural differences, the concept of freedom, and the importance of education. Yury discusses the challenges of language and communication, as well as the impact of communism on personal identity. Through his experiences, he emphasizes the value of sharing stories and understanding one's history and culture.

In this conversation, Chris and Mike delve into the life and experiences of Yury, who shares his journey from growing up behind the Iron Curtain to his current life in America. The discussion covers various themes including the importance of genuine conversations, family dynamics, investment strategies, cultural insights, and personal growth. Yury's curiosity and passion for life shine through as he reflects on his aspirations, the influence of music, and the shared humanity that connects us all. The conversation is filled with humor, wisdom, and a deep understanding of life's complexities.

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There it is.
There it is.

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We got it.
Now we're cooking with gas.

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We got cooking with gas.
This is Mike and I's band Yuri

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song called Freeman Do.
You guys have?

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Hey boys and girls, it's
Christian Mike Show.

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We are here with Yuri.
We are I see live right now on

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YouTube as well as Twitch.
So if you happen to be on those

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platforms, welcome to the show.
Welcome and then, as always, in

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a couple weeks, this episode
will drop on our podcast channel

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and all the podcast outlets for
your reviewing re listening.

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You know what is the word
pleasure?

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Pleasure, pleasure.
Hey, thanks for coming on, Yuri.

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It's nice to meet you.
And just so everybody knows, we

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just popped Yuri's cherry
because he has never been on a

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podcast before.
So, so welcome, Yuri.

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Welcome.
Thank you for doing that with

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the you know.
Thanks for coming on man.

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Yeah, so far, I enjoy that.
Can you?

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Let's go, Let's go.
Depart.

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All right.
Hi, guys.

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Yeah.
So what I did, you know

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homework.
I realized I have to talk about

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myself quite a lot so I I guess
I should my LinkedIn page and

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kind of copy paste and ask
myself to just read it out loud.

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Well, this this is.
Tell us like, who you are, why,

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why you want to come on.
You know what inspired you to

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want to come on and talk to two
knuckleheads like us?

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Yeah.
And where?

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And but before we start that,
where are you at?

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Because I'm in Arizona, Mike's
in Illinois.

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Where are you?
Right now I'm in a pool house.

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It's pretty much no.
I know you're in a pool house,

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but I want to know where you
what's what city, what?

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Country.
Yeah, it's a small town,

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Greenwich, next to New York.
Greenwich, CT.

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It's right next to Manhattan,
maybe half an hour.

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OK.
So New York's cool.

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So you're in New York, I'm in
Arizona, he's in Illinois.

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So it's a beautiful thing.
That's technology, man.

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You got to love it for that part
of it.

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Right, but you obviously have an
accent, so where did you grow

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up?
Yeah, it's a it's a great

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question, especially nowadays.
I have a cover story I always

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use.
Actually, I recently used that.

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I'm from Romania.
I know it.

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Awesome.
So no, I actually grew up a

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friend.
From Romania for years that I

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worked with was a cool.
Guy Yeah, right, right.

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No, actually the the real, real
story is I grew up in Soviet

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Union platform is how I called
that.

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And maybe 20 years back, when I
quite was guided by my

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grandparents, I made a big
decision.

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I moved out and now I live in
the United States for the last

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20 years with my right.
So you grew up in Romania?

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No, Romania is my cover story.
Because nowadays, in a place

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where I actually grew up,
because it's, it's not a good

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thing.
Oh, OK.

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It's not.
Yeah, it is Soviet Union.

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He.
Actually hit the nail on the

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head, Chris.
He grew up in the Soviet Union.

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You said that before he came
back on.

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Right.
I just assumed because the name

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of the accent, but I wasn't, I
wasn't sure.

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So.
Yeah.

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So how was so how so?
Because we like, we like we like

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to talk about anything and
everything.

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As you know, we're just, it's a
conversation.

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I want to hear that part of the
story.

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Right.
I want to hear.

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I want to hear what the Soviet.
Union.

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What was it like growing up?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Wow.

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All right.
Please.

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All right, let's go from, I
think from the beginning, I

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guess it's, you know, Soviet
Union platform.

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I, I, it's how I called it
Soviet Union LLC Soviet Union

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Corp was powered by certain
beliefs and that was because

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they all came back to communism
party.

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So the communism communist
system was designed for everyone

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pretty much.
And obviously my family members,

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my parents, my grandparents,
they are under this umbrella.

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They believe what they should
believe.

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And I was super lucky when I
grew up at that point, when I

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was let's say 10 and 11.
It's actually the point when you

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start asking yourself questions.
All right, how long I can live

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in a life, right?
It's 100 years.

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So I already had 10% of my life
down when I was 10 years.

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So I was lucky at that point in
life, the whole, the system, if

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we call IT system and actually
the system, right, starts

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falling apart.
And I found that wherever my

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parents, they believe actually
it's alternative reality.

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And I had the luxury to
challenge that and ask them

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direct questions because at that
point it was already OK to ask

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what the heck is that, right?
So honestly, my mom, she was

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more conservative.
She had more political correct

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answers and my questions why we
do this, why we do that?

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My dad.
You're freezing up on us.

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Yeah, and I looked at my thing.
I'm uploading fine.

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So is he.
Weird.

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Sorry ladies and gentlemen here.
He's having technical

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difficulties, which really sucks
because I'm super engaged in

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this story.
I know, I know, right?

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I've never met anybody from.
Russia.

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No.
No.

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And I really want to hear about
how he grew up and like how old

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he is now.
That was one of the questions

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he'll.
Be back.

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Yeah, Yeah.
No, absolutely.

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Because that that's something
that's fascinating, right?

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Because it's you're going behind
the Iron Curtain.

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Is that what that was called
when you're growing up?

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100% good job.
So be able to see, you know, at

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least at least listen to a story
of.

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Of let's make sure we establish
how old he is now so we know

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what years we're talking about
when he was growing up, because

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if he's close to the same age as
us, yeah, you're going to hear

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what his experience in life was
compared to going to an American

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school every day.
And sure, right away you can

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just you hear the difference in
what those people went through.

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And right away, at 10 years old,
he was aware that his life was

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10% over.
Were you aware at 10 years?

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No, no, no.
And right away, my brain went.

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I had no idea my life was. 10%
over at 10 years old.

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But see, that means that he
plans on living to 100, right?

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But.
What I'm saying is that was the

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despair and the hopelessness
that life was, you know?

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It's just.
You're just kind of waiting to

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die because you're going to do
the same thing over and over and

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over and over again because
everything's for the system,

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right?
Right.

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And that's, that's communism,
which you know.

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It doesn't work.
No.

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And you eat the same, you sleep
the same, you work the same.

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You do this.
I mean, it's, it's, it's

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Groundhog Day movie to an
extreme.

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Yes.
And that's that's.

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A great way of putting a great
analogy.

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And I had no idea he was where
he was from when we were talking

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because it it, it just, it
wasn't his resume, his, his life

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resume he sent me was more
business related and things like

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that.
So this really surprised me when

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when I first heard him speak.
I'm like, oh, he's not from New

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York.
No, no, you hit the nail on the

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head.
I couldn't believe it.

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Yeah, he's like, I'm from
Romania.

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That would have been cool
enough.

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Here we go.
Absolutely.

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Yuri is piping back in, ladies
and gentlemen.

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You're good.
I don't.

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Know you're good, man.
We were.

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So I was just like, Oh my God,
I'm so engaged in this story.

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I want to hear the rest of it.
Right.

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Oh.
He froze again.

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Let's see if he was in Russia, I
could see like, you know, the

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three continents, right?
Or two continents apart, right?

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You know, and there's other
Wi-Fi.

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No, because the weird thing was
is he was keeping up with us on

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the upload speed.
Oh, interesting.

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Which is nerd talk, ladies and
gentlemen.

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But it is nerd talk.
You have to have a decent

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Internet connection to use this
service, so that's why we're

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always talking about it on the.
Podcast And that's why I

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included in all my welcome to
the Hey, there you are.

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There you go.
Nope, there you went.

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You're still freezing up on us,
brother.

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Man, that sucks.
Yeah, because now he does suck.

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0% loaded.
Yeah, but he, you know, he's

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looks like he's having a good
time.

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He's got a smile on his face.
I want to ask him if he's on

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ADSL connection.
Oh, that could be it.

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Because you and I are sitting
here talking to each other like

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we're in the same room and we're
1800 miles apart, so.

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We are.
So I wait for your to come back

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on.
Mike and I were talking before

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the show that that I have a
unique ability in my vehicle to

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get ethanol gas.
OK, so there's two stations in

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Arizona, both are in the East
Valley, one's in Tempe, one's in

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Mesa where you can actually get
this ethanol fuel.

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So I go to the one in the East
Valley because I'm on that side

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of town this morning doing real
estate stuff.

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What was I pull up to the gas
station slash restaurant.

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And the restaurant inside gas
station is one of, you know,

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Arizona's favorite fast food
Mexican stops called Filibertos.

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Yeah, Filibertos, right.
So I pull up in there and

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there's there's a landscape
truck and you know, a AA44 door

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Crew Cab, dually wheeled tire,
massive truck with a long

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trailer that's probably just as
long as a truck.

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And this gentleman's blocking
1233 pumps, right?

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Which means you're blocking 6
people's ability to pump

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gasoline on the other side.
The ethanol nozzle on that side

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of the pump is broken.
So the only ones on the side

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where his trailers at in front
of that spot is another truck.

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That's one of those, you know,
they have to have to the back is

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empty open.
So you unload, you know, like, I

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don't know, drop off pickup
donation type truck.

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OK, right.
It's like going to the

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restaurant and look around.
I kind of, you can kind of tell

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a landscaper because they're
everything's covered from head

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to toe except their face because
of the Arizona sun.

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So I was like, excuse me, you
know, is that your white truck

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out there?
He looks out there, looks at it,

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looks back at me, doesn't say
anything.

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I'm like, is that your white
truck?

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I said you there's ethanol
there.

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I like to pump that gas for my
vehicle.

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And that's the only one that's
working.

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Gentleman behind him rattles
something off in Spanish and the

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guy that I'm talking to responds
in Spanish that rewraps his

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burrito and continues to eat.
So I'm standing looking at him

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for about 3 seconds and I'm
like, I'm like I just need you

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to move your truck forward so I
can get gas.

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It's not that.
Big a deal.

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Reasonable request.
Didn't respond to anything I

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said OK, so forget exactly what
I said, but it's something to

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the level.
Well, if you're going to be a

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Dick about it, then maybe when
I, when you come out there,

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you're just not going to have
any, any air in your front 2

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tires.
And I walked out and none of

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them moved.
Like, no, it's, it's and it's

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somewhere in that conversation
that point out the fact.

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I know you understand what I'm
saying because what you do for a

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living, you have to at least
understand what I'm saying.

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Whether you speak it or not, you
have to understand what I'm

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saying.
And there's two guys here.

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There's three guys here and then
there's the door and there's

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there's four guys that are
there.

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Don't look like they're a
landscape.

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And again, in Arizona landscape,
like legit, you're wearing a

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bright white yellow shirt and
the only thing that's open to

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the air is yours on your face.
And even when you're in the

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yard, you put on your face with
a mask of sunglasses.

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So there's nothing exposed to
the sun, right?

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But you have to, and I've done
that when I've done light, it's

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actually a cooler environment,
being completely covered from

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the sun.
And the only thing really

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exposed, Nothing.
Nothing really.

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When I run my bones, everything,
I'm just like a landscape.

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So and nobody wants skin cancer.
No, but it was just, it was a

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reasonable request.
I wasn't being a jerk.

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I was, I was slight and and
respectful about it.

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And he just looks at me like,
like, fuck you is basically what

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he said.
And then the guy behind him

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again changed on something
Spanish.

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And I'm learning Spanish, but
I'm not quick enough to pick up

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what they say because, you know,
people who have spoken Spanish

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their entire life.
Well, I mean.

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They're talking as fast as we
are right now, right?

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So there's you.
One second, he's going to finish

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this.
I got to finish this story.

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So my point is, boys and girls,
it's not an unreasonable request

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to ask someone to move forward
when you're trying to get fuel

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if the only pump that is
allowing fuel to be dispersed.

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Be a human and respond instead
of just being a Dick and staring

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at the.
And one thing I would like to

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add to that story, yeah, is
true, genuine, heartfelt

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Mexicans that grew up in Mexico
hate Mexicans like that because

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they give them all a bad name,
right.

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When you fake that you can't
speak English.

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And that both that I've known
plenty of good Mexican families

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who came here illegally and
then, you know, made it legal

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later on, but their parents were
always careful to make them

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speak English when they were in
the house and, you know, just.

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We're in this country now.
Here's what we're going to do.

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So I, I hear that in my head
too.

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It's like, man, those, those
kind of people, they give

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Mexicans a bad name.
They do.

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Well, and it's just, it's just a
human respect thing, just.

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Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't
matter, but it's I'm talking

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now.
It's the language barrier thing

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too, you know.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Anyway, sorry you're.
Yeah, no, we were talking about

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little situation happened this
morning when I asked somebody

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politely to move their vehicle
so I could get some fuel and and

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they just stared at me like I
was and, you know, a space, an

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alien that just had no
relevance.

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It was the strangest thing, man.
So, you know, so anyway, so we

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want to we want to continue.
This is Yuri.

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He lives in New York.
He's originally from the Soviet

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Union.
And we were talking about how

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Mike and I both you made the
statement that when you turn,

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1010% of your life was gone.
That hit he and I, like you,

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wouldn't believe.
Because when we were 10 years

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old, we were not aware at all
that our life was ever even

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going to end for one thing, let
alone know that it was 10% over.

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So what made you hyper aware at
10 years old that your life was

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10% over?
That's my first question.

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Oh, it's a it's a great
question.

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And I actually first time in
life, I asked myself why I I

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knew that why I had this kind of
concern, right.

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And you nailed it.
I didn't expect it.

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Let me think about it.
My guess.

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All right, So here's what
happened back in the time in our

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culture when I say our culture,
whatever culture we had at that

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point, right, Sure.
When grandparents or adults die,

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the holdest event, the holdest
ceremony, I called it right, was

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designed around tragedy and it
was really depressing for

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anybody, even adults.
So I, I guess at that point I, I

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was witness of few, maybe
relatives or some neighbors that

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die.
And obviously that concept that

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life is over a certain point was
introduced by not even asking me

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kind of right.
And it was introduced in a

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pretty harsh style as a whole.
This, you know, process to say

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bye to those, you know, people
who die.

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It's, it was set up like like a
real, real experience, right?

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You can see actual dead body,
right?

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And that dead body, it was not
like modern days.

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It was not designed to be.
It looks healthy.

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And nice.
It wasn't, Yeah, it wasn't, it

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wasn't more.
It didn't go to mortician and

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get it all cleaned up and stuff,
right?

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Right, right.
So yeah, yeah.

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Now you kind of went to, it's
not a therapy session, right?

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I don't pay you guys right.
So I think at that point in

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life, I was first time
experienced, second time

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experienced that that concept
that you might be bright and

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and, you know, running around to
doing some shit when you child

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obviously, right.
And then at certain point you

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that piece of disposal piece of
meat which looks ugly.

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And so I think it was it is my
answer why I was kind of aware

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of the fact that eventually the
whole this, you know, version of

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the life is over eventually that
that that dude or that Lady

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were.
Yeah.

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OK.
Now my next question real quick

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is how old are you?
So we have a time frame of when

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we're talking about.
At that point or right now?

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Right now?
Oh, right now I'm roughly 45.

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OK.
Yeah, I would say it's my kind

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of.
Cool.

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So I'm, I'm 10 years old and
you, Mike's eight years old.

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And you, so you were, you were
10 years old in the Soviet

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Union.
Right.

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OK, so when did you move from
the Soviet Union?

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How old were you?
I needed that when I was in

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college.
Second year in college where

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maybe it was 19, it was in
Boston.

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And actually it was not Boston.
Yeah, it was New Hampshire.

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Right, OK, so you so you lived
there till you were 19?

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Right.
I I was OK till 17 1/2.

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I would say pretty precise.
So.

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So what was it like being a
teenager growing up in Russia,

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man?
Partly have Which part of that?

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I don't, I just like, I know
what is obviously we know what

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it's like to grow up in America
as teenagers.

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And it was, you know, when we
were teenagers, right?

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There wasn't the social media,
there wasn't the Internet.

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It was, it was basically, you
know, you, you get home by the

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time the street lights come out.
So it was a great childhood from

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that aspect.
If you look at what kids have to

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deal with now, right?
Because there was no hiding

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behind texts and phone calls and
cell phones and shit like that.

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It was just you're going to
knocking on Mike's door.

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Hey, Mike, can Mike come out and
play?

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You know, and then parents like
no, he's grounded.

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He'll you know, or he's doing a
homework, whatever.

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So did you have so just.
I mean, I don't.

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Here's a way of asking that, I
think here's a way of asking

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what you're trying to say.
Did you have that same kind of

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freedom even though you were in
a communist country?

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I mean, you could you could come
and go as you pleased as far as

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playing with your friends and
going to a club.

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Or that's what he's asking,
right?

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Robert, I think it's.
It's.

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It's not making.
Teenager in Moscow, in Russia.

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Yeah.
So in my Moscow, different

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cities as well, right, right,
right.

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I think the whole concept, the
whole narrative, we are less

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free nowadays.
Our kids, I have 3 kids, right?

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It's international.
So back in a time when you're

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17, when you're 15, when you're
14, the level of freedom and

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level of independence, I would
say, right, if we put any number

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on that, it was maybe less than
10X.

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So we did have a pretty similar
experience.

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You just go to somewhere and you
come back from somewhere and

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your time and obviously you have
some expectation from, you know

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yourself that your parents wants
you to see before the dark and

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you can have access to the bike.
You can bike somewhere and

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explore and find sometimes you
find troubles, right?

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Sometimes you find something
very interesting and sometimes

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you build, build, bring those
troubles to your household,

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right?
So, and I grew up in a small

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town, like roughly 9000 people
compared to a local town.

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So I would kind of say that it's
more like small version of

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Queens in New York.
OK.

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You have quite diverse
community.

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You have people who are
successful doing, you know, good

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stuff and a wife and obviously.
You have some Russia.

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It it was small town near and
usually in upgrade that time it

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was Gorky and that small town
was primarily built around two

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different 2 businesses.
One business produced food for

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peaks and second business
produced peaks and obviously

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humans, we eat those, you know,
pigs.

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So it's pretty simple.
Pretty simple, logical I'm.

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I'm pretty good with geography,
but are you closer to the

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European side of the Soviet
Union or are you more like in

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the interior of the country is
what I'm asking I guess.

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It's right in the middle.
I would say it's right in the

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middle.
And like, I know we're right

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where you're at.
Then yeah, like let's say 4

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hours by good car, 4 hours from
Moscow.

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It's very much to to put a
point, right.

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So that lifestyle was evolved
pretty dynamic dramatically

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when, you know, systems start
falling apart.

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The whole freedom was leveraged
by not just kids, but adults as

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well.
So the whole system was very

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like maybe 2 years a transition
from one type of everyone

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shared, everyone united by same
vision.

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And now over 2 years it become
more kind of independent

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lifestyle.
So each family who?

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Lived under two different
regimes, right?

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Right, so I what was?
The first regime.

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I'm sorry.
What Who was in charge during

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the first regime, when you were
like, from birth to whenever

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Putin took over?
Right, right.

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So the the last guy, I think to
be political correct, we should

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kind of stay away as far as
possible so our podcast can go

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live, right?
We don't talk about that guy.

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I will stay away from that part,
OK, Just for the reason.

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Fair enough.
I don't believe.

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I don't believe I have so much,
you know.

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What?
You call him Bob.

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Yeah, I don't have kind of very
concrete balls and.

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I like what Chris says.
Let's call him Bob.

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And when Bob was in charge, what
was life like?

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And then when Putin took over,
what did you notice like

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immediately and then maybe
progressively afterwards, so.

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The the Bob I wasn't part of Bob
umbrella How to say that when

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Bob was on top of family is a
family member.

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I already am flying over to you
know my new life.

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So but when I grew up, it was a
dude named Gorbachev, right?

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Based on based on record.
Think of his name.

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Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.

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So that dude, he was pretty kind
of human focused kind of.

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He was not a good manager, but
obviously he managed the

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country, which was not a good
business in the first place.

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So maybe we would have much more
success in the business if he,

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you know, run, you know, pretty
good business at that point.

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There's a previous guy, whatever
previous guy name, he could not

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build as a country, as a
business in any perspective.

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Yes, it was super inefficient.
It was super.

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How to say that super not right?
Inefficient works, and no

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inefficient works.
It just it wasn't.

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It wasn't performing the way it
should be.

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And the people suffered under
that right.

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Oh, it's a great, great note.
I didn't see anybody in my

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circle who had zero, who had any
negative emotional things in

446
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,840
their life.
Right.

447
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,120
The system itself, when you
unite people on their same

448
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:57,840
vision and you let them go in
that direction and you tell them

449
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,880
to feel, you know, the fact they
actually part of that journey

450
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,480
and they can feel, you know,
accountable for whatever there

451
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,880
is.
They have to be the one guy who

452
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,400
might, you know, part of you
know, he might be plumber second

453
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,160
guy, he might be big boss,
right?

454
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,880
But at a certain point, everyone
has access to the same table, I

455
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,960
would say, right.
And when people united by

456
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,720
something huge, they actually
feel very happy about the

457
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,560
lifestyle.
They even it's not about money

458
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,680
at that point, right, It's more
about where we going.

459
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560
I would say Ellen masks.
He isn't biggest communist type

460
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
of guy right.
He's trying to put you and me to

461
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,080
the Mars and when I grew up, the
guy who is in charge, our Ellen

462
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,040
Musk, they try to put me in a
live way in the future.

463
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,000
We all happy.
I forgot exactly the tagline,

464
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,320
but we did at we had exact same
branded message from the system

465
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:55,640
as well.
OK.

466
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,920
That makes sense, yeah.
So let's go to the Mars so.

467
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,040
So this is kind of a random
question.

468
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280
I don't know if if it's even a
legitimate question.

469
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440
But as I grew up not really
understanding communism, right,

470
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,600
because I lived in America,
right?

471
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,280
So I never had this struggle
through that.

472
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Is it true that that the
government would dictate what

473
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,680
your occupation was?
At a certain degree you you

474
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,080
more.
Your journey started in high

475
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000
school.
In high school, you're pick

476
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,320
something based on your parents
observations, right?

477
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,320
So your parents pretty much put
you on some path and that that

478
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240
specific path will place you
somewhere in the society.

479
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,800
And you got a full time presence
in society and you feel very

480
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,840
happy because you go to the to
the to the Mars.

481
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,200
Gotcha.
OK.

482
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320
OK.
Then with that said, sorry

483
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,160
Chris.
You're good.

484
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,000
No, you're good.
I like where you went with that.

485
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,120
With that said, what if you
wanted to be an artist?

486
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,360
him and I played in a band
together, right?

487
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,400
We chose that as part of our
profession for a portion of our

488
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,760
lives.
What if you wanted to be a

489
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080
guitar player in a band?
You don't have that freedom.

490
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,600
You have a freedom to play
guitar with any rhythm you can

491
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,600
come up with because guitar
music doesn't impact does have a

492
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,400
direct message, right?
But as soon as you open your

493
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,160
mouth, whatever comes from your
mouth, it has to be in a certain

494
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Li was a message.
We go to the Mars.

495
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,520
It's got to be politically
correct.

496
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,520
Pretty much.
You can't be.

497
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,560
Anti establishment gets you
taken off the stage and shoved

498
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,480
in in a closet in the backroom
for days.

499
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Pretty.
Much, Mike?

500
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,000
Yeah.
Yeah, so like it or not, we

501
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480
could Chris and I could have
went on stage and said, you

502
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040
know, fuck America.
We hate this fucking the way

503
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,080
this country's run, which we
never would have said because we

504
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,560
love where we live, but we
already.

505
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,200
Said that right.
To get up there and what if?

506
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,800
What if you did that?
Oh God.

507
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,080
In my time, in my yeah, sure,
yeah.

508
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,400
I don't see anybody.
I didn't see anybody in my life

509
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480
in my circle.
And I did have some, you know,

510
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,920
very bold and proactive
activists wherever people who

511
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600
against the system.
Nobody would say that.

512
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,680
Yeah.
It's it's so it's not just bold,

513
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,960
it's it's not even the the the
bad news when system when you go

514
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,360
too far too long for to the Mars
you actually start, you actually

515
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,640
believe you, you you're in a
path to the Mars and anybody say

516
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,480
the Mars is fuck anybody say
that the Mars is illusion.

517
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,200
Not so many people can hear the
message.

518
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,200
Not so many people can support
that.

519
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,400
So what are we screaming your
Microsoft on the stage.

520
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Not so many people can, you
know, get reacted in that

521
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,200
passed.
Away.

522
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Gotcha.
Yeah, that makes sense.

523
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,920
So now, so now you're in
America.

524
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000
You like you, you moved from
Soviet Union, Russia and you're

525
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,960
in America now.
You go to you go to college.

526
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000
What did you study in college
and was and what did you notice

527
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,800
when you came over from a
communist country to the

528
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,760
freedoms of America?
What was the biggest culture

529
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,280
shock for you?
Great question.

530
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Yeah, go back to education part
then we can culture police.

531
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,640
OK, Yeah, I, I just maximize
opportunity to study as much as

532
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,840
I could.
Thank you for, you know, to my

533
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,200
parents, I guess they, they are
pretty direct.

534
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,400
You, you better still learn and
be smart than not.

535
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Yeah.
So I went to same.

536
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,600
Message.
Right, right.

537
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,960
So I went to mechanical
engineering school.

538
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,600
I graduate after 70 years, been
in a in a pretty good college

539
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,880
and I went to PhD and as a
mechanic engineer type of guy.

540
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,160
And obviously I drop out for the
sake of someday I will say it

541
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,080
loud.
I drop out PhD instead of high

542
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,320
school.
So this I, I Max out the fact

543
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520
that we had free education
system.

544
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560
It's a good part of the kind of
go to the Mars.

545
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,000
It's it's, it has a good
benefit, right?

546
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,120
When you go to the Mars, you
have to build a good platform

547
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,560
for education.
You have to get to the Mars, you

548
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,480
need engineers.
So I spent seven years studying

549
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
math, finance, where we named
that.

550
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480
So I was full time in a few
different education systems.

551
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,280
The good news, I paid 0 for
that.

552
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,680
The best news, sometimes I even
get paid for that.

553
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,000
If you started good, if you got
good score points, whatever you

554
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,560
call that, you actually get
paid.

555
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,560
And so transition to cultural
question, what was quite

556
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,400
different versus here versus
Russian culture?

557
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Yeah, honestly, it's more I'm
trying to go back that time, my

558
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,240
impression that time versus my
impression nowadays and.

559
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,280
That time he's been
Americanized, Yeah.

560
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, you
know, it's now I'm going to

561
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400
different Mars, right.
Right.

562
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Exactly.
And my belief system already

563
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,440
kind of influenced by years.
Be present.

564
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,520
Be present here.
I'm not going to say prison.

565
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Well, maybe, maybe, maybe pose.
Let me, let me pose the question

566
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,680
this way.
Like so when you, when you first

567
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,320
come to America, right, and the
freedom that you were then

568
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,760
allowed, was that just like
overwhelming, like, Oh my gosh,

569
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,240
I can just get up whenever I
want.

570
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,360
I, I can go to McDonald's and
get a cheeseburger or I can go

571
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400
in this movie at blockbuster.
You know, just that type of

572
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720
because you're going from like a
what a communistic world where

573
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280
you're kind of told what to do,
when to do it, how to, you know,

574
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960
all this stuff, right?
And now you're now you're

575
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280
completely free to kind of do
whatever you want, right?

576
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,520
Like you can go in the middle of
the not.

577
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Exactly not, not not even
exactly.

578
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,480
I would take even absolute the
good news in my personal case

579
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,360
when I was out, when I checked
out from that hospital, from

580
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880
that Mars expedition, right.
Yes.

581
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560
I would say it the last two or
three years, the, the, the, the,

582
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960
that regime, the system was
already collapsed, right?

583
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,800
It was complete freedom that
time in that part of the

584
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,960
country, not OK that those three
years after the system

585
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
collapsed, it was the biggest
freedom you can experience in a

586
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320
life.
So you do whatever you do, you

587
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,360
go against legal things and your
legal system, you, you quite

588
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,560
control that.
You go against messages.

589
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000
You can open your mouth, you can
say whatever you want because

590
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680
the system doesn't exist now.
You can say it out loud.

591
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Your parents were dumb.
Follow this, you know, one to

592
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,920
three belief.
So back to your question was a

593
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,000
big like difference in the
freedom to be honest here I

594
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,480
experienced much less freedom.
So right it it was much less

595
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,880
you, you you observe by rules.
There is something you you you

596
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,600
have to be compliant every day,
right?

597
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,880
It's what I experienced here,
right?

598
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,680
So if you compliant follow a
certain protocol.

599
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,840
It's what I discovered here.
Is it good or bad the first day?

600
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,480
Yeah.
The first time you kind of you

601
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,080
don't feel comfortable.
You you feel control kind of,

602
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,720
right.
You have some boundaries, right?

603
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000
But eventually, when you realize
all those girls, they actually

604
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560
designed for good of your
things, for good of your

605
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,800
presence, being part of the
system.

606
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240
I I decided, listen, that that
version of control is much

607
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600
better than what I experienced
when I was a child.

608
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520
So give me a simple example of
something that you have to do

609
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,960
here that you did not have to do
when you lived in your hometown.

610
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Oh my God, so now?
This is, this is, this is that's

611
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,080
a, that was a fast, fast answer,
Yuri, because really, I never

612
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880
would have thought coming from
communistic control.

613
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,680
Have a claim that he had less,
more freedom there, Right,

614
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,720
right, right.
Give me a simple example.

615
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Right, which if you.
Think one off top of your.

616
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,160
Head Brilliant insight, man.
But again, big note that we're

617
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,040
trying to compare apple and
banana.

618
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Yeah, we know, right, because
the last three years it was

619
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,240
episode of companies.
If you compare communism

620
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,960
different different animal,
right.

621
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:06,440
So the the the biggest thing,
not the biggest one of oh wow,

622
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,160
it's going public, right.
Let me pick something in a more

623
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,960
easier to to to let's.
Get you in trouble?

624
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,040
Right, right.
So I'm trying to stay away from

625
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080
trouble all about.
You see how much KGB now?

626
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Oh, let's doorman.
I'm knocking on my door either.

627
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,000
Let's use that thing as the fact
we we're trying to discover,

628
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,880
right?
You see, when we try to say

629
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280
something here, right, we're
still trying to filter where

630
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,360
there are some messages they can
put you guys and me in certain

631
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,520
trouble if you go to let's say,
oh, the big one, which, and

632
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,960
obviously let's not count
details because I don't know,

633
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,080
we're kind of in trouble for
sure when we go races, when

634
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,320
we're trying to define different
personalities driven by

635
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,000
different, you know, ethnicity,
the history behind each.

636
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,600
So we all came from different
places, right?

637
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,240
We have to have some expectation
who that person based on ways

638
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,920
he's coming from, right?
So that subject, the race, it

639
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,400
might be color, it might be the
size of the body, etcetera in

640
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,239
the country we're part of right
now, right.

641
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,840
It's much less written to, to
emphasize, to explain, to be

642
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,679
verbal on that subject, much
less like I would say, TNS.

643
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120
Yeah, Holy crap.
Amazing example, Yuri.

644
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Wow, that was a brilliant
answer, man.

645
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Thank you very much.
Now I understand.

646
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,800
I.
It was just.

647
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,199
In the show.
Just in the show.

648
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,480
How?
Do we go up from there?

649
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
No, but that was that, that was
amazing that way.

650
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,639
And that was a, that was a great
way to, to, to frame that

651
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,360
because I never would have
thought of that.

652
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,159
So over there, you're just over
there, you're just communistic,

653
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,840
you're in that world and that's
how it is.

654
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,880
So they don't see any of that
per SE, right.

655
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,240
And over here, like you just
said, there's so much division

656
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840
from from the cultures
themselves, the race, the

657
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,680
religions, because you didn't
touch religions, right.

658
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,080
There's religion and religion is
the mother of all wars, right?

659
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440
That's why the world's always
been at war as religions and

660
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,920
stuff.
So I mean, that's that was a

661
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,560
really great insight on on the
difference between the two for

662
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,720
sure.
Nice job.

663
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen,
Yuri from from, from, you know.

664
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Yes, I think it's better phrase
that way.

665
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,120
So OK, so here's another fun
question because Mike and I

666
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,080
talked about this before you
came on the show.

667
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,840
We were talking he like we've,
we've always asked people what

668
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200
is America's perception from the
country, but obviously we're not

669
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,800
going to ask that because you're
in America now.

670
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,480
But we've learned that people
that are in other countries

671
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,840
outside of America, some of them
think that we're arrogant pieces

672
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,440
of shit.
And then Mike had a conversation

673
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,240
with someone and and the answer
was basically, well, we only

674
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,200
speak one language in America,
whereas your buddy speaks how

675
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,840
many, Mike?
5. 55 So how many languages?

676
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,840
He speaks 9 languages, but he
speaks 5 fluently.

677
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,120
And where is he from?
Norway, right?

678
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560
So what about you, Yuri?
How many languages do you speak?

679
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,200
I think the English, my second
now become eventually the first

680
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,160
one, I guess because the way I
process, yeah, first one

681
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200
English, second Russian.
I can speak, I can speak Ukraine

682
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,760
to support Ukraine.
And then somehow I understand

683
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Espanol and Spanish and pretty
much that's it.

684
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,440
I'm not language guy, I'm more.
No, it's, but still that's.

685
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Still speaking?
You're still speaking 2 fluent

686
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040
languages, then you can
understand two other ones, so

687
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,200
that's still 4.
Languages.

688
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,000
I only speak one fluent.
Right, right.

689
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,080
I'm learning Spanish, but it's
not, you know, I had my little

690
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,040
ordeal today and I didn't
understand the thing those guys

691
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,520
said because they said it so
fast.

692
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,680
I was like, it's like, OK, so
no, that's still that's props,

693
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,720
man.
That's good job.

694
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,000
Now I had an uncle who took
Russian in college and

695
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000
supposedly that is one of the
hardest languages to learn other

696
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,840
than like Latin which is a dead
language anyway.

697
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,320
So they say that Russian is
actually the hardest language to

698
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,600
learn that's actively spoken
every day on the planet today.

699
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Would you agree with that or no?
It'd be hard for you to agree

700
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,280
with it because you grew up with
it, yeah.

701
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,600
No, it it was hard for me as
well.

702
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,840
It was like I said, yeah, I was
pretty good in physics, math,

703
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,840
and, you know, such science,
right?

704
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,360
Can I ask you a quick question?
Why are the words this long?

705
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,080
And I'm, I'm holding my fingers
really wide.

706
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Ladies and gentlemen, why are
there so many letters?

707
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,200
There's where in a, in a, in a,
each word.

708
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,800
In Russian, yeah.
Like when I look at Russian

709
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,960
signs, you know when you see
them on TV, like the the names

710
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,720
seem like they're 14 letters
long.

711
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:54,720
Yeah, they do.
Oh, I think oh wow, is a test.

712
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,840
No, no.
OK, let me nail that.

713
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,960
The the biggest difference
between English American

714
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,720
language, right?
There is a symbol might have

715
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,400
there are two symbols, right.
But when you write description

716
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,480
for how you pronounce that, you
have to come up with three

717
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,920
symbols, right?
OK, in in that type of group of

718
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,680
languages like in Bulgaria or
Romania as well, right?

719
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:22,040
And all those languages is
Slavic.

720
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,400
There is no such like to be
honest, there is no such

721
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,400
language as Russian.
They all function of it's a mix

722
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,680
of and they always evolve,
right?

723
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,960
They answer your question.
They are not.

724
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,760
They don't have issue to write
all small sounds, so you just

725
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640
can read that exactly what I
see.

726
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,240
You don't have to generate big
sounds from, you know, small

727
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,240
symbols.
Kind of.

728
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,840
It doesn't make sense.
OK.

729
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,640
So whatever you see, you have to
read that in English, you have

730
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,440
to memorize certain combinations
of symbols and you pronounce

731
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,720
them quite different whether you
see actually in the paper.

732
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,600
OK, so, so if dog in in America
is dog in Russia could be what's

733
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,680
your call and it could be 14
symbols long.

734
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,400
Yeah, right.
No, actually, right, right.

735
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,240
No, that animal, the one who
have have.

736
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Yeah.
In English there are three

737
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:22,520
letters and it's dog in Russian.
Sabaka is 11 more symbol bigger.

738
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,560
OK, but no need for that.
We can call it Sabah.

739
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Whatever.
Sabah.

740
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,360
Yeah.
So now, yeah.

741
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,800
Now we we simplify like become
more English.

742
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,800
I know, I know Russian Sabah.
So now that we now that we've

743
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,840
picked your brain about how you
grew up and all that kind of

744
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,000
stuff because it's fascinating,
Mike.

745
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,240
Now let's turn our attention to
what you do now and and what you

746
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,840
want to share while being on the
Chris and Mike Show.

747
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,200
There's no specific message to
share beyond us.

748
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,360
It just going through the life
and be have quite different

749
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,760
experiences.
Eventually you, I ask myself.

750
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,080
I should talk to myself
directly, I guess.

751
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,120
At what point I should actually
combine this knowledge and at

752
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,320
least in my head and feel it,
enjoy it and so feel the whole

753
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,880
life, which I already went
through right.

754
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,720
So being in the camera, being in
the podcast, thank you guys.

755
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,280
You know, for to be here.
It was pretty much the main

756
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
driver.
There is no direct message or I

757
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,120
have a message XYZ.
No, I actually, I decided, OK,

758
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
it's time to.
I'm 25.

759
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,240
I already had the laugh.
And maybe it makes sense to help

760
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,760
yourself become, you know, more
public versus less public, I

761
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,840
guess.
Sure.

762
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,000
So with that said, Yuri, let me
ask you this question.

763
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Obviously, you probably looked
over your shoulder for quite

764
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
some time when you first came
here.

765
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Do you still do that?
What do you mean by that?

766
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,960
By the way?
I discourage.

767
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Were you nervous about being
here on your?

768
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Well, just because the, I think
Mike what, what he's getting out

769
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,520
of the atmosphere in America,
you know, the Cold War and

770
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,000
stuff, I don't think that was
still relevant.

771
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,280
Relevant, right.
But but the fear, the fear like

772
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,360
I'm from another country, in any
given time, somebody could just

773
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,880
tap on my shoulder and say, you
know.

774
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Oh, the, the, and we're talking
about, it's not about

775
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
podcasting.
It's about, you know, back to

776
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080
the first part of the outcome.
Yeah, yeah.

777
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,680
No.
Just what you just said.

778
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,720
Were you ever did you just kind
of go into a headstrong and say,

779
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,840
this is what I'm going to do and
I'm going to move forward in

780
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,200
this direction?
Or you know what, you at some

781
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,800
point you had to make a decision
that you're going to change your

782
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,520
life.
What?

783
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:49,160
What triggered that?
The the trigger back to it's a.

784
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,920
It's a next great question,
which might be quite.

785
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
A great question.
Right, right, right, right.

786
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,040
It might be there are multiple
triggers.

787
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:04,160
It was not just one, right,
Obviously the fact the fact,

788
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,000
right, I didn't believe that go
to that specific Mars.

789
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,400
It was a good, you know, time to
spend.

790
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,240
I didn't believe in that vision
they had when I was 10, whatever

791
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,360
11 would say, right.
Then next time, next chapter,

792
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,000
like when you from 10 to 14, I
guess when systems start falling

793
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,560
apart, I had clear picture that
there is no such system as the

794
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,200
system exists.
You pretty much define your own

795
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,520
system when you go.
And obviously there are some

796
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120
external messages from
grandparent, let's say right and

797
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,600
from somebody else who might
whisper to ear its norm that's.

798
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Still super intuitive at 14
years old.

799
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:49,960
I'm going to give you that
again.

800
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,600
Yeah, but again, when you're in
a journey to find signals and

801
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,440
symbols, you you can find them
even you, I don't know, five, I

802
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
guess, right.
I have, I have a sound history

803
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,440
as old right now, right.
And I can see.

804
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
His I was looking at girls at 14
Yuri.

805
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,840
That's was my only.
No, no, no, I I did that as

806
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,760
well, but just for record, I, I.
No, I'm not saying you.

807
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680
I'm not saying you didn't.
You're, you're a man like

808
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,480
anybody else.
I'm just saying that was my only

809
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,960
concern at that point.
I I wasn't thinking about.

810
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000
This my only concern as well, to
be honest.

811
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,880
No, we we, we, we, we, we all
right, so we, we probably have

812
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,720
to go numbers, right.
Sorry.

813
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Back to the shoulder part.
Let's go back to the shoulder.

814
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,720
It sounds like we missed that
part.

815
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,760
The shoulder part yeah, being in
different ventures different I

816
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,480
was an entrepreneur trying to
make different things in the

817
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,800
life trying to I was trying to
generate cash flow.

818
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,800
I didn't know that thing.
I would say cash flow at that

819
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000
time, right.
But obviously I was involved in

820
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,760
so many different ventures and
some ventures I was part of a

821
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,880
joint somebody think somebody
initiative, right and most of

822
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,360
the time it was mine, right.
I was a guy who designed idea.

823
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,200
I was a guy who actually go
after and I was the one who you

824
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,920
know, to take all the
responsibility for the outcome,

825
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,720
good or bad.
So being on different ventures,

826
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,440
multi different country, it was
the easiest project I took over

827
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640
in my life to be honest.
Well, we're done.

828
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,320
That's a great answer.
Yeah, that is a great answer.

829
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,000
So let's, so you, you, you sent
me a, a, a full back history on

830
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,400
you.
And I kind of I, I skimmed

831
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,440
through it because again, we
like this being real raw and

832
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,320
relevant.
So I don't, we don't like really

833
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,120
knowing who we're talking to too
much because it's, it's the

834
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,000
reactions in the conversation is
more genuine from our point of

835
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,800
view, because I, I had a radio
show and so I did all that and

836
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,880
that was, you know, as cool as,
but it was never, never genuine.

837
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,720
And, and what Mike and I like
about this is we're genuine and

838
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:02,040
the people we talked to, they're
genuine conversations and like,

839
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,280
like this entire story about
where you, where you grew up.

840
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,200
And that's fascinating to both
of us.

841
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,560
And you answered questions for
us, probably for a lot of people

842
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,680
that will listen to this episode
that are watching now too,

843
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,760
because you never really get to
get in depth with someone who's

844
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400
lived behind the Iron Curtain.
So that was cool.

845
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Totally appreciate you sharing
that.

846
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,960
And hopefully that, you know,
the KGP doesn't come knocking on

847
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,240
your door tomorrow.
I don't know if they still

848
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,880
exist, but if they do, tell them
it's our fault and they can come

849
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,720
find me.
Right.

850
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
And it's a record.
I, I didn't share any secret so

851
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,280
far.
So by the way, I can share both.

852
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,880
It's all for Sale, by the way.
Any secret guys?

853
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,480
Reach out if you want to get
some secrets.

854
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Yeah, listen.
We can talk about the business

855
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,960
model behind the podcast.
Yeah, Yeah.

856
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,000
Let's get a business model
together and we'll we'll connect

857
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,600
you to and you know, we can make
some money there.

858
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,120
I'd love and you're anymore
every.

859
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Minute that goes by, right?
So you're married now?

860
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,720
You have three kids, right?
How long you been married?

861
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,880
20 I guess it sounds like.
Right.

862
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,000
OK.
Yeah, my wife and I'm together.

863
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,320
I'm 32.
So good job.

864
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,760
And you, you said you had a 3
1/2 year old.

865
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,600
What about the other two?
How old are the other two?

866
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,280
I have a quite diverse
portfolio.

867
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:17,640
The oldest asset I have 22, OK,
the middle 112 and the youngest

868
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,200
3.
So it's kind of wow, 10 years

869
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,760
gap.
Yeah, that's OK, you know.

870
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,480
And there's.
There's I have a friend who had

871
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,640
had what their kids were all
gone up and grown and then all

872
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,120
of a sudden they decided to have
another kid.

873
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,600
And so there's like 25 years
apart, you know, it's crazy and.

874
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,280
Just for record, same acts, same
sperm, same exact kind of thing.

875
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,400
That's.
Funny, Vernon, so talk a little

876
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
bit about your, your, your
business side of what you do

877
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080
now, because I did, I did skim
what you sent me and you talked

878
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,240
about some ventures and real
estate stuff and, and things

879
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,360
like that.
And, and, you know, give us a

880
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,560
little insight to what you do
now.

881
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Is there something that you want
to, you want to share?

882
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,480
I mean, are you, you know, like,
what's your like?

883
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,920
We OK, let me put it to you this
way.

884
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,360
Like we've had people on here
that are health and Wellness,

885
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,920
that are fitness coaches,
peptide experts, writers,

886
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,600
authors, producers for movies.
We've had a professional boxer

887
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,280
on who ironically enough, a week
after he was on our show, he

888
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,360
like literally just dropped this
guy with one punch.

889
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:31,520
And he was the most quiet,
sincere, polite, gentle human I

890
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,520
think we want to talk to.
And he just laid this dude out,

891
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,040
man.
Like we just one punch and then.

892
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,840
He jabbed him and then he just
laid him out with the second hit

893
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,360
to hit.
It was beautiful.

894
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,680
It's just, you know, so but
that's the cool thing.

895
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,280
Everybody has has something,
whether it's it's are we going

896
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,920
to be a coach or we're going to,
you know, teach about investing

897
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,320
and things like that.
So that's kind of what I'm

898
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,960
getting at with that, because
obviously we connect a while

899
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,240
back because we have such a a
scheduled out show.

900
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,440
But what is it?
What's your passion in life,

901
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,840
man?
What fuels your fire?

902
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,200
What What makes you up in the
morning and get you excited?

903
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,760
Yeah, what makes your ego now at
45 in America?

904
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,280
Yeah.
Right, it's good coffee, I

905
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,720
guess.
That helps.

906
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,360
We love we.
Should have a product placement

907
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,840
right here like Dunkin' Donuts I
guess or.

908
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Chris and I, I think he's still
drinking it.

909
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680
We drank Don Francisco's
butterscotch toffee.

910
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,920
If you want to send it to me by
the case, I'll talk about Don

911
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Francisco's from here to Kingdom
Come.

912
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Yeah, yeah, Mike introduced me
that.

913
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,560
It's legit, dude.
It's like you don't even have

914
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,400
anything.
It'll change your life.

915
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,840
Yeah, you don't have to have
anything in it.

916
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,800
It's that good.
It's just and, and they have a

917
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,360
wide variety, Yuri, there's a
wide variety of flavors from Don

918
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,560
Francisco, you know.
All right, I should try that and

919
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,480
thank you for time to to let me
process and come up with the

920
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
right answer.
I guess what makes you wake up?

921
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,640
Well, everybody wakes up because
they're alive.

922
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,400
But once you wake up, what's
your?

923
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,600
Yeah, I know that party.
I got it.

924
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,400
I've been trying to make a joke,
I guess.

925
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Still here?
Right.

926
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,240
No, it's good.
It's good, man.

927
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,000
Yeah, There's a child.
He's three years old.

928
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,720
He makes me wake up.
No, actually, the biggest

929
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:19,520
answer, the right answer would
be I still, I have curiosity and

930
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,160
a level of nine out of 10, I
guess.

931
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:28,040
And it comes to the price.
Sometimes you go to too many

932
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,560
directions, right?
Sure.

933
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,760
So yeah, that is.
Main reason that's called ADHD.

934
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Yuri squirrel.
Squirrel.

935
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:40,160
Welcome to United States.
We all have kind of diagnosed

936
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,800
kind of thing.
No, actually it's curiosity when

937
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,120
you have interest in something,
right?

938
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,400
So nowadays, right, I, I found
myself with a big, big, with big

939
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,680
passion involved in, I called it
opportunistic investment

940
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,760
transactions.
And, and what I found the whole

941
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,360
my life is more opportunistic
type of investment.

942
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,840
I invest my, my time to execute
certain vision which I can come

943
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,760
up when I wake up one day,
right?

944
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,680
So pretty much the answer your
question, what it wake UPS.

945
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Nowadays I have a vision that me
and my team, we can build quite

946
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,320
sizable portfolio of passive
investment investments.

947
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,760
So we can retire with a quite
stable cash flow and enjoy this

948
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,880
American dream, do nothing
pretty much, and still have a

949
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,600
nice lifestyle, right?
That's my dream too, Yuri.

950
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Yeah, you see how I nailed it?
You see how I made it right And.

951
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,400
And I'm in tune with that dream
too.

952
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,240
So let's all find that dream
together.

953
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:44,880
Yes.
How do we find?

954
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,440
The dream is not it's challenge.
The dream I can, you know, write

955
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,040
it down.
The dream I can give you a lot

956
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,240
of details of what this dream is
about, right?

957
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,320
The whole thing.
Is put it into.

958
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,160
Emotion.
Yeah, the whole exercise to find

959
00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,280
the path to the dream, right.
And that is called execution

960
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,320
center point.
And at the same time, it's more

961
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,680
not just execution part, just
sometimes it's not execution as

962
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,680
well.
Sometimes you put to yourself in

963
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,360
a in a treadmill and you go on
direction, which doesn't bring

964
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,000
you to the vision that you come
up with, right.

965
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,320
So sometimes it makes sense just
doing nothing, right.

966
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,800
So if the equation, what makes
me up sometimes doing nothing,

967
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,080
right?
So I'm, I'm most of the time I

968
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,200
take a break to do not most of
the time.

969
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,880
Sometimes I take a break, do
nothing, just kind of reassess.

970
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,600
Is it right path, not the right
path.

971
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Is it right action plan to the
vision?

972
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,160
I can I just come up recently.
So nowadays I'm in debt space,

973
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
investment space, trying to find
deals, trying to find

974
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,440
opportunities, make sure that
those opportunities, they, they

975
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,680
bring the value for to me, to my
investors very much.

976
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,560
So do you run like an investment
portfolio?

977
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Do you run like a hedge fund?
Help us understand.

978
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200
It's coming up, it's coming up.
You know, it's more friends and

979
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,360
family structure because I do
that.

980
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,000
I do that.
I'm investor had for the last,

981
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,640
let's say four years, three
years and a half before I was a

982
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,720
guy who's a horse when I say
horse and the guy who run the

983
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:12,640
show.
Yeah, I.

984
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,440
Know I got that.
Right.

985
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080
I was a guy who focused on start
up.

986
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,720
I had and I was trying to build
something big, building an.

987
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Empire.
Right, right.

988
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,080
So whatever Elon Musk's dream is
about right.

989
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,480
And then last three years I
shipped gears.

990
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,040
I realized there are different
approach to to the the goal.

991
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,800
There are different strategies
how you can accomplish your goal

992
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,040
passive, all this type of
income, right.

993
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,920
So last three years I shipped
completely from active guy.

994
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Obviously I am active to find a
deal, but I I prefer that that

995
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,080
deal has one more driver.
OK.

996
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,360
Who can drive?
So you, so you, So you're the

997
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,520
passenger.
You're the passenger in the car.

998
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,440
Right.
Sometimes a passenger, sometimes

999
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,920
you step on a on a gas station
and you put a gas in a in a car.

1000
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,200
So there has to be somebody.
Yeah.

1001
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,080
And somebody has to tell the the
driver where, you know, the

1002
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,560
highway ends and it become, you
know, Paver Rd.

1003
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,920
So you have to slow down the
guy.

1004
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:08,960
Yeah.
OK.

1005
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,240
That's do you have some great
analogies?

1006
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,120
Man, yeah, he does.
Yeah, right.

1007
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,080
I love it.
I like the.

1008
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,920
You should like it.
Just write a book about

1009
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,520
analogies.
Analogies by Yuri.

1010
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,240
That's a.
That's a good analogy, man.

1011
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
You're very good at making
people understand.

1012
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,160
Yeah.
Complex things, yeah.

1013
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,640
You're good at painting a
picture.

1014
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,840
Your answer's painting a
picture.

1015
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,520
So it's not just a generic
answer.

1016
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,800
It's like you're framing it,
which is perfect for for

1017
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,000
podcasting, for people to listen
to it because then they can they

1018
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,560
can picture what your answer is
because the way you frame the

1019
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,560
response.
For your first podcast, you've

1020
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,920
done amazingly well and I've
been captivated the whole time.

1021
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,160
First off, I've never met
anybody that grew up in Russia,

1022
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,720
so you got me right there.
That was a win.

1023
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,160
Thank you guys.
I agree with Chris, this whole

1024
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,400
time we've been talking about
some pretty seriously complex

1025
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,400
issues and you have a really
good way of painting a picture

1026
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,080
to make my stupid brain
understand it.

1027
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,280
Not just listen, there are such
thing as stupid brain.

1028
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Just being funny.
I think it's it's a stupid

1029
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,120
approach to explain things.
So I I was trying to make your

1030
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,320
your brain comfortable.
You did a great job.

1031
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,680
Yeah, for sure.
Man, you did absolutely.

1032
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,840
That's fantastic.
So what's on the horizon for

1033
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,280
Yuri?
What's what's, what's the,

1034
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,920
what's the five year where
you're going to be in five

1035
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,760
years?
What's the goal?

1036
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,240
What's the target?
There's goal you're.

1037
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,520
Going to take over the world and
and and we can join.

1038
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,760
No, no, no, I I'm not that dude.
I have 0 Mars plans.

1039
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640
I don't see myself in the Mars 0
plans for that.

1040
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,200
I don't.
Want to go to Mars either man?

1041
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,480
No.
I don't even have I have 0

1042
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,400
desire be in a part of any
government or related journeys

1043
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,920
processes would say right.
I agree with that.

1044
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:56,120
So the plan is very simple, stay
humble as much as I can, kind of

1045
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:00,720
control emotional part is
obviously we get older and we've

1046
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:05,720
found ourselves that the middle
age crisis kind of behind the

1047
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:07,960
back.
So control that part.

1048
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,800
So where we can accomplish
wherever I can accomplish, it's

1049
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,920
migration, right, It would be
good enough.

1050
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:20,240
So obviously tangible part of
the equation, what I expect it

1051
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,880
be to have, I have a least, I
have a vision board.

1052
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,200
I did it maybe 10 years, 10
years ago.

1053
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,840
Certain point I can share with
that with the with the crowd.

1054
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,520
I guess I'm not ready right now,
but obviously there are some

1055
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,200
tangible.
We're going to, we're going to

1056
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,360
have you back on the show, man,
because I mean, we're not done

1057
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,520
yet, but we're going to have you
back on the show because you're

1058
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,400
an interesting conversationalist
for sure.

1059
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,120
You're very intelligent because
you're a mechanical engineer.

1060
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,720
So that alone you have a very
analytical mind, which is

1061
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,400
fascinating.
Which is good and bad, right?

1062
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,560
Well, no, but it's it's been.
Great for this podcast.

1063
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,000
That's all we care about right
now.

1064
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,560
We're damn glad to meet.
You Oh, you guys selfish, right?

1065
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,640
No.
You should think about my brain.

1066
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,040
I have to analyze everything
what we discussed here.

1067
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Just just nature.
It's my muscle.

1068
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,960
I can't help you there.
You're you, you got to live in

1069
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,840
that body.
I get to live in this one.

1070
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,720
We're just, we're just happy
that, you know, like Chris said

1071
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,800
for a podcast, it's great for
the audience when you can paint

1072
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,360
a picture and make them
understand right along with us.

1073
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,520
So.
The the really cool thing is

1074
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,960
that your your, your responses
to the questions, the fact that

1075
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,360
you pause and think about how to
respond shows your level of

1076
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,800
intelligence because you're just
not wanting to to quickly answer

1077
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,200
something just to fill the
space.

1078
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,640
You're wanting to answer the
question with a legitimate

1079
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,440
response to help us understand
why we asked and and the answer.

1080
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,960
So don't ever feel like like
your answers were wrong.

1081
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,360
They were they were spot on.
It's public speakers, right?

1082
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,120
When you go to see a public
speaker, they will have pauses

1083
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,080
when they're on the stage.
And those pauses on stage are

1084
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,840
because in their brain, they're
going from this chapter to that

1085
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,080
chapter.
But what that pause does, it

1086
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,520
makes the person kind of lean
anymore.

1087
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,400
What's he going to say?
And then when you deliver your

1088
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,280
answer, because the way you do
it so eloquently and the way you

1089
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,200
frame it, it's a great answer.
Like it's just, it's a great

1090
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,520
answer.
Like I want to ask you what you

1091
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,240
have for breakfast, but I'm
afraid you'll you'll make my

1092
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:13,800
breakfast pale in comparison
just how you would paint the

1093
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,720
picture.
It's very simple.

1094
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,920
It's a yogurt and two knots.
See, it still makes our

1095
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,840
breakfast sound like shit, just
the way he said.

1096
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,080
It.
All right, so yogurt.

1097
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,400
It's yogurt and it's and a white
colored yogurt.

1098
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,800
I'm not going to raise this
here.

1099
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:36,040
It's a white yogurt.
That's awesome.

1100
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,000
That was hilarious.
So.

1101
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,880
So did you ever watch the Rocky
the Rocky trilogy's the Rocky

1102
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,880
movies with Sylvester Stallone?
Fight the guy.

1103
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,400
Oh yeah, I did that.
That wasn't that sport as well.

1104
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,800
Oh, right on.
So so that's great because I

1105
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,480
love, I love boxing.
So does Mike.

1106
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,720
So you're from so so you're from
Russia's and Ukraine's in that

1107
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,120
area.
The Klitschkos did you?

1108
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,400
Have you?
Did you watch them in their

1109
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,040
careers?
Not not enough.

1110
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Because I'm not.
I'm not a box guy.

1111
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,200
I'm kickboxing guy.
OK.

1112
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,560
OK.
So you're more you, more you go

1113
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,280
boxing just for physically
fitness and just to do that so.

1114
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,760
You I gotta go kickboxing?
Oh cool, right on.

1115
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,920
Straight up kickboxing or Muay
Thai.

1116
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,480
Straight, yeah, the, the, the,
the basic one.

1117
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,960
The basic one, right.
The regular one when you when

1118
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,320
you use your legs to break, to
break somebody else's legs.

1119
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,040
So when you watch the Rockies,
did Dolph love Dolph Lundgren's

1120
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,400
character?
You know, the Russian guy?

1121
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,640
Was that a good stereotypical
example of, you know, the

1122
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,760
steroid arrowed Russian athlete
that was just juiced up like

1123
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,560
crazy?
That was a great look.

1124
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,320
You didn't answer the question
with the look man.

1125
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,280
In real life, in the real life,
this guy who looks quite

1126
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,480
different to be honest, he is
more his shoulders more rounded,

1127
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,800
he's more less organized, I
would say, right.

1128
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:10,800
But it was important for local
crowd to to enjoy the fact that

1129
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,880
we can nailed that type of
machine.

1130
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,040
So it it was a picture not for
me, it was a picture for you

1131
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,720
guys.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense for

1132
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,000
sure.
I must break you.

1133
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,240
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a style machine.

1134
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,360
I never saw such guy.
All my friends are good guys who

1135
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800
actually perform nicely in the
kickboxing, etcetera.

1136
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,280
They are quite different.
Yeah.

1137
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,320
Yeah, do you know?
Do you know who Bert Kreischer

1138
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,760
the comedian is?
Yuri.

1139
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Google that.
OK.

1140
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,520
Yes, Google's your friend.
He has a great story of going to

1141
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,480
Russia when he was in college,
and he's told this story a

1142
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,240
million times and he elaborates
on it each time he tells it.

1143
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,360
But I will say the one thing
that he says about his time in

1144
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Russia is it was the most
intimidating experience going

1145
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080
into it.
With some of the nicest people

1146
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,440
he ever met, he said they were
scary as shit, but they were

1147
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,680
cool to him because they wanted
to party with him.

1148
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,960
Right.
And in general, yes.

1149
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,520
And in the general, general yes,
yes, yes.

1150
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,520
I didn't find any culture any
place when I travel and I travel

1151
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,080
quite remote spots in in the
universe, I would say, right?

1152
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,480
Let's say in Bangladesh, right?
I found myself so sometimes

1153
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,800
shocked by certain local
messages for them.

1154
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,520
It's norm for me.
Outsider is quite wow.

1155
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:50,120
I'll give you 1 which quite
remarkable, at least for myself,

1156
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,480
right?
I was in Bangladesh and the guy

1157
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,640
who was my kind of buddy, he's
local, right?

1158
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,680
So he put me in a, in a program,
like not a program.

1159
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
We went for different local cool
places, etcetera.

1160
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,280
Right.
At a certain point he was

1161
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,400
explaining to me about certain
religion, which I don't want to

1162
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,360
kind of promote right now, not
because I don't like that, just

1163
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,760
because I feel responsible for
what you're saying here, right?

1164
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,320
So what he said that we all
different and at that point,

1165
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,400
imagine what we had, we had a
food in a good restaurant and in

1166
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,040
the food we had on table, we use
our hands to use to to eat the

1167
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,240
food.
So it's a restaurant, it's you

1168
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,160
have you dress nicely because
those most guys are professional

1169
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,760
in that in that meeting, right?
And they use hands and what he

1170
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,800
said, listen, we might be all
different in any degree, right?

1171
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,320
We may have different,
different, different opinions,

1172
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,440
different, etcetera.
But in reality, if we cut our

1173
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,160
hand right here in this spot,
you and me will have exact same

1174
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,280
blog.
Yep.

1175
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,160
Yeah, we do so.
And so the bottom line, he

1176
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,440
introduced me the concept that
actually he's absolutely right,

1177
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,400
etcetera.
And then I do believe we're all

1178
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,000
the same.
We do have some differences just

1179
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,760
based on a place where we grew
up, based on messages we

1180
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,720
listened from our parents and
based on books we consume.

1181
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,440
And it's why I'm trying to stay
away from books.

1182
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,640
I don't have been influenced by
somebody else.

1183
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,800
So it's kind of the summary for,
you know, to make this whole

1184
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,920
thing.
I agree with what you said that

1185
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,240
that speaks to me because I
don't buy into governments

1186
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000
borders.
We're all on this planet right?

1187
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,000
A lot of people don't even
consider the fact that we are

1188
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,560
literally spending at 1000 miles
an hour hurtling through space

1189
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:47,600
into Infinity and it could all
end in 1/10 of a second, right?

1190
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,400
Something terminal if if the
Earth, well, if the Earth

1191
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,920
doesn't stay at 23 1/2°, if it
goes to 18, we're all dead,

1192
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,480
right?
Yeah, yeah, that.

1193
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,160
Would be.
That's how fragile life is.

1194
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,520
So for us to define all these
things by races, religions,

1195
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,840
countries, cultures, it's just
so stupid.

1196
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,560
We're all human beings.
We all came a theoretically and

1197
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,240
you know, if, whether you
believe, if you believe in the,

1198
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,840
in the big boom, right, the
evolution with you, Carl Sagan,

1199
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,840
we all spawn from monkeys.
But if you believe the biblical

1200
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,680
side of it, we all spawn from
Adam and Eve.

1201
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,360
So sure, we're all related if
that's the case.

1202
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,080
And there's I've heard something
and you may know if this is true

1203
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,640
or not, Mike, because you're,
you listen to so many things.

1204
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,160
There's a point in time where
the world population was just

1205
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,040
under 2000, correct?
And we still survived that.

1206
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,400
So we're all related in some
way, shape and form to those

1207
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,960
2000 people.
We can trace.

1208
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,400
This is a true story.
I just got it.

1209
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,800
OK, They just figured out that
they can trace all modern man

1210
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,160
down to one woman.
Everybody that's in our current

1211
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,680
state today.
They call her Mitochondrial Eve.

1212
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:01,880
She was busy.
I got a joke by the way.

1213
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:08,320
What's your joke exactly?
I got a message 19199 other

1214
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,520
people.
Trying to get my style kind of

1215
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,320
explain couple of things in a
simple language, right, right.

1216
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,600
We're going to.
Practice that.

1217
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,920
We're going to practice that,
Yuri.

1218
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,600
Every conversation we have, we
learn something.

1219
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,680
Today.
We've learned so much.

1220
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,760
It's, that's why we do this.
Yeah.

1221
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,720
It's it's it's been fascinating
talking to you to.

1222
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,360
Be honest, it was my question,
why did you guys do that?

1223
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,960
What you.
Because I got to meet somebody

1224
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,040
who grew up 10 years after me,
17 years.

1225
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,400
Right, right, right.
Yeah.

1226
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,360
So we're all roughly within the
same era as far as, you know,

1227
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,040
the way we grew up before the
Internet and after the Internet.

1228
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,400
And that doesn't even matter.
I would have never met.

1229
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,160
I might have gone the rest of my
life and never met somebody that

1230
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,560
actually was born in a different
culture, came to our free

1231
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,960
culture and has lived on both
sides of it.

1232
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,600
And I got to hear it from your
mouth.

1233
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,880
I don't.
I like to speculate a lot about

1234
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,280
how, you know, different people
grew up and live, but I don't

1235
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,360
know till I hear it from them.
So that's why I do.

1236
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:15,280
This my question, sorry, sorry.
Would you consider to have a

1237
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,880
sample the taste of different
culture like a sample, you know

1238
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,120
the Whole Foods and you got a
sample of new food on the shell

1239
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,560
and you got you got a bite and
you can always shoot it tastes

1240
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,040
so different and good.
I I don't have extra bite.

1241
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,160
Would you consider to go
somewhere and have a bite of

1242
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,040
different culture?
Absolutely.

1243
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,080
I would love to, yeah.
For sure.

1244
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,480
Absolutely.
I've just never afforded myself

1245
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,360
the opportunity to do that.
So yeah, I would love to so.

1246
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,280
We have to push.
Yeah, I guess.

1247
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,720
It's going to happen, yeah.
So if I ever meet the future

1248
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,920
misses, I'm probably going to
make that happen.

1249
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,920
So there you go.
So now you mentioned Yuri, that

1250
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,440
you travel all over the
universe.

1251
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,880
OK, We don't want to talk about
stuff off planet Earth because

1252
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,360
of, you know, you're, we got to
keep that stuff on the down low.

1253
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,040
We don't want KGB knocking on
your door.

1254
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,440
So you mentioned Bangladesh.
What other, what other countries

1255
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,040
or, or I guess it's a country or
wherever.

1256
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,240
What's what's something that
that somebody would be shocked

1257
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,520
to know that you went and
visited?

1258
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,520
Not much to me.
For me, Bangladesh was the

1259
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:31,000
biggest wow factor was the quite
the I know there are some

1260
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:36,240
different countries exist.
I I didn't have I had no need, I

1261
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,760
would say to go, but definitely
there are some places don't ask

1262
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,120
me names.
I have to Google that there are

1263
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,400
small countries and I met
someone's been in I think it was

1264
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,200
in what country?
It was in Indonesia somewhere.

1265
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,080
So I met some.
I already was impressed how we

1266
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,760
different from local guys, let's
say in Indonesia, right?

1267
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:03,360
And then in a breakfast in local
hotel, I came across small talk

1268
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,480
to someone from even more
different place.

1269
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,880
So that sample, the one I
mentioned, Mike, you want to go

1270
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,360
Whole Foods, right?
I had this bite.

1271
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,920
So what I back to the question
which we can circle that what

1272
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,920
makes me wake up every morning?
I still didn't touch.

1273
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,280
I didn't still bite other pieces
of the pie.

1274
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,480
So there are some cultures,
Laos, I guess.

1275
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,400
Laos, it's a country which I
kind of in my not exactly bucket

1276
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,600
news.
I don't believe in bucket news.

1277
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,000
It has to be a life list.
So I'm trying.

1278
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,640
To dude, I love that it's
lifeless.

1279
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,320
See, I have to have a thing
where I call it's it's your life

1280
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,640
resume.
Like what have you done in your

1281
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:42,760
life?
What kind of things have you

1282
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,920
accomplished?
That's a lifeless dude.

1283
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,360
It's so much better than a
bucket list.

1284
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,240
That's cool.
Again, the Uri euphemism.

1285
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,760
I like it too.
Yeah.

1286
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,880
I'm adopting that one.
Let's write a book, guys.

1287
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,320
Write a book.
Man, we have to come up with the

1288
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,400
title.
What?

1289
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,520
Yuri euphemisms.
Yuri euphemisms, right?

1290
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,600
Euphemism title, Yeah.
It has to be, that's what.

1291
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,840
Oh, that's what Yuri said.
Oh, really?

1292
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,280
There you go.
That's it.

1293
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,240
That's catchy.
That's what Yuri said.

1294
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,439
I think it sounds like that I
come up with a name in the past

1295
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,319
to to send some messages to my
daughter.

1296
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,319
Oh, it was an exercise.
She asked me in a random spot

1297
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:26,720
and she can put a camera in my
face and ask me any wisdom to to

1298
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,960
me.
So I would love to listen her

1299
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,080
records wherever I deliver,
produce I guess for the last

1300
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,720
maybe 10-15 years because she
collect those records.

1301
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:39,399
Yeah.
So it might be good content for

1302
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,680
whatever book nowadays.
So.

1303
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,439
You just sparked another
question that I have because you

1304
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,760
talked about records.
What kind of music did you

1305
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,800
listen to?
Growing growing up.

1306
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,319
Growing up, yeah.
Growing up, I was not in the

1307
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:59,279
space of music guys and I
actually went.

1308
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,840
I put myself in music school for
over the year just for the sake

1309
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,479
to be comfortable to have this
conversation, I guess, with you

1310
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,040
guys.
OK.

1311
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,240
Let me ask you this real quick.
Music was not my thing.

1312
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,880
OK, when you turned the radio
on, what did you hear?

1313
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,600
Like if you're at.
Did they?

1314
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,680
Did they have radio in Russia?
No, we, we and we had cold and

1315
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,840
hot water.
It was a joke.

1316
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,040
I know.
All right.

1317
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,279
So if you go right now in
Miley's, I I rather talk about

1318
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:34,160
today's kind of things.
Right.

1319
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,240
OK.
What are you listening to now?

1320
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:38,000
It's.
Pretty much function of previous

1321
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,800
things.
You'll find the biggest one I

1322
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:46,279
have, which called papaya.
So papaya is a kids music and

1323
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:51,760
somebody very smart dude come up
with the rhythm and the like

1324
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,520
this how to say that it's it's
designed for kids.

1325
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,520
But I enjoy it so much because
when you listen to five times

1326
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:58,960
and it's stuck you in your
brain.

1327
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,680
There's one more person I have
to promote in this podcast and

1328
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,320
don't share with anybody else.
I was a big fan of Selena Gomez

1329
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,640
and I was a big fan of Selena
Gomez for one specific song.

1330
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,360
And don't ask me which one I
learned.

1331
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,040
So if you go on my music list,
it would be some classical

1332
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,640
piece.
Just I trying to push myself in

1333
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,600
a classical.
I don't believe it's good.

1334
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,080
Stuff I I love classical.
Music I love most I can Queen,

1335
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,320
queen and such things.
Now we we had access to any

1336
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,600
music we can.
But obviously that if you go

1337
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,160
back to that, that time under
umbrella of communism system,

1338
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:44,320
right, Obviously it was so
limited and we had local guys

1339
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:49,840
and local guys somehow the copy
paste international guides.

1340
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,080
So somehow through the proxy, my
parents, they were part of

1341
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:57,160
global culture.
But again, it's from the proxy

1342
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,680
visit local guy, he had access
to international content and he

1343
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,560
produced local content, but
influenced by international

1344
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,280
content.
So I was part of your culture on

1345
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,640
a 10% degree, I would say.
Gotcha.

1346
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,320
OK, gotcha.
Yeah, cool.

1347
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,400
Good answer.
So does your do you?

1348
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,840
Is all your family still in
Russia aside from you?

1349
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,480
Most of the family, yes.
OK.

1350
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,560
And so do you, do you visit or
you just phone calls FaceTime?

1351
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,240
For multiple reasons and we all
can Google those reasons.

1352
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,000
I I'm not part of that life
anymore.

1353
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,160
Gotcha.
And mechanically, emotionally

1354
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,680
and etcetera.
So it's kind of answer for that

1355
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,480
question, right?
That's cool, that's fine.

1356
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,480
I'm I'm in the same boat with my
my my family so no worries there

1357
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:43,120
man.
It's just a random question.

1358
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:49,200
By the way, my family lives.
My my my mother lives about

1359
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,760
probably within 15 minutes of
me, but I haven't talked to her

1360
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,080
in over a decade.
My father lives in Illinois and.

1361
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,360
I know, I know, I guarantee
there's a story behind that.

1362
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,240
But it it makes sense, there is.
There is.

1363
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,800
There's all kinds of stories
behind that, but this is about

1364
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,440
you.
Now it's therapy session for you

1365
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,640
guy.
My family lives next door to me

1366
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,680
and two blocks away and I see
him multiple times a week, so

1367
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,520
yeah.
Mike is a good guy.

1368
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,000
And Kristen?
Yeah, Mike is a really.

1369
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,080
Yeah.
I had a good family.

1370
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,200
Kristen.
Not so.

1371
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,600
Yeah.
It is what it is.

1372
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,960
But but like you talked about,
like you're the person you are

1373
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,600
because of how you were brought
up and and your influence, what

1374
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,160
your parents did and what you
read and what culture and what,

1375
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,280
what world you were in as a
child and that that formed that

1376
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,520
formed who you are.
And I don't, I don't regret how

1377
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,920
I was brought up because it it
made me the person I am today.

1378
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,480
I'm the points, the fingers.
One of the things that I always

1379
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:43,920
say is the people that I find
the most interesting

1380
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,200
unfortunately have the most
fucked up lives.

1381
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,720
True, it's unfortunate.
It's.

1382
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,360
True.
Let me think about it.

1383
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:52,560
You know the most.
Interesting.

1384
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,480
People I've ever met have had
the most oppressive childhoods

1385
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,840
that anybody could ever ask for.
And you can either come out of

1386
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,800
it triumphant, like Chris did,
and decide this is my life and

1387
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,880
I'm going to live it my way and
I'm going to be happy and

1388
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,360
positive and I'm going to go
forward and be effective.

1389
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,720
Or I'm going to blame the way I
grew up on the way I am for the

1390
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,400
rest of my fucking life.
Right.

1391
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,600
And that's just there's.
Nowhere to and and it's also we

1392
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:26,080
have a choice right, we can't.
So is it kind of transition to

1393
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,120
let's talk about why you're so
interesting based on how his

1394
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:36,360
life was fucked up.
The good news it was fucked up,

1395
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,960
but it was fucked up under
control of my personal.

1396
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:48,360
I manage how much I need fucked
up, sure, and so I was lucky I

1397
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,920
was not fucked up like in our
language.

1398
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,440
You weren't fucked up beyond
repair.

1399
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,280
Right, right.
So it was not I had so Oh OK

1400
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,000
now.
OK, Speaking of your kind of

1401
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,240
language, I had to design
artificial fucked up lifestyle

1402
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,360
to become interesting person.
That was me.

1403
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,040
I had to do the same thing,
yeah.

1404
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,880
Thank you, Mike and I, I kind of
feel that, to be honest.

1405
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,200
I don't know why it's Yeah,
right.

1406
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:21,480
So I wasn't an adjourned.
I was actually I was always

1407
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:25,480
looking for something which Mike
me which can put me on the edge

1408
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:31,480
of stupidity kind of and come
out from this act whatever

1409
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:36,440
exercise experience clean and
nice and make a mental note that

1410
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:40,640
thing whatever I did right now,
I will leverage that to become

1411
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,080
good guy, a good person,
interesting person, wherever

1412
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:48,120
that's I have so many occasion
very another case stories in the

1413
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:53,000
life which obviously was
designed and executed by me by

1414
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,920
my choice.
I have nobody to blame.

1415
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,760
I actually was.
I might very calculate sometimes

1416
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,000
calculated choices to do
whatever I did.

1417
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,360
Yeah, that's awesome.
Maybe a good example.

1418
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,800
Anything else you want to talk
about, Mike?

1419
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,600
Any other questions for
conversations with with Yuri?

1420
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,440
We're going to have Yuri back
on.

1421
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:15,520
We have to have.
Yuri back.

1422
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,840
We have to have Yuri, but now
you're getting into the the

1423
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,960
podcast zone.
So go do a couple more and then

1424
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,240
we'll have you back on.
And, and, you know, just because

1425
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,880
there's so much stuff we could
talk about just for the sheer

1426
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,560
fact that you're a great
conversationalist man, you're,

1427
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,720
you're fascinating human.
Thank you.

1428
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,800
Thank you guys.
You are you too.

1429
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,240
You too as well.
Listen.

1430
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:36,880
And you have and you have a pool
house.

1431
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,880
I don't have a pool house.
Mike, do you have a pool house?

1432
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,040
I don't have a pool house.
No.

1433
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,280
Now do you have a pool?
Yuri If.

1434
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,360
I have a pool house.
I should have pool I guess.

1435
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,400
Why you you would think that,
you never know, man.

1436
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,840
I just, I just, I'm trying to
kind of educate kind of

1437
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:55,400
Meanwhile, no, I do have a pool
which right now closed for the

1438
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,480
last three years it's shut and
for for multiple reasons

1439
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,080
because.
The young, the little one, the

1440
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,960
little one right you.
Want to keep it's it's it's

1441
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,160
reason 55.
There are like 54, you know

1442
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,960
before that. 54 other reasons
OK.

1443
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,360
Yeah, 54, I can give you the
main 1.

1444
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,320
I don't know why I need that
when when we travel summer and

1445
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,440
we need a full Yeah, when it's
it's sort of, you know, kind of

1446
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:19,160
place where you should have a
pool.

1447
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,120
I don't know why people build
pools nowadays.

1448
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,200
Private.
That's what I always say about

1449
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,240
Illinois too.
It's stupid to have a swimming

1450
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,400
pool and all.
You know, it's more than that.

1451
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:33,320
It's like if you claim you can
afford such property and you

1452
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:40,120
kind of calculated place that
thing in the property, how much

1453
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,840
you stupid man like like you're
going to use it five times in

1454
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,040
your life cycle and whatever
and.

1455
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,240
Yeah, where where Chris is going
to use his like 200 days a year.

1456
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,960
When we had a pool, we don't
have a pool now because our

1457
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,760
grandson was born in like safety
purposes, but where we lived

1458
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,560
before with the pool, I was in
it every single day of the year.

1459
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,160
But it's Arizona, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1460
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,560
No, listen, in Arizona you have
to have a pool just for safety.

1461
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,440
They have to jump in a pool to
cool down right?

1462
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:17,040
And N you have a pool to me I,
I, I.

1463
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,080
I'm trying to find an actual
like logical reason why you

1464
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,240
should have a pool.
Obviously it looks sexy and nice

1465
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,360
when it's a blue kind of thing
on your, on a LAN, on your.

1466
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,240
All it is, all it is around
these parts, is to show your

1467
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,280
neighbors that you're that much
better than them.

1468
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:32,160
It's a.
Status.

1469
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,520
Symbol I hope my neighbors
they're not part of the path

1470
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,400
cast, but if they hear that
listen guys, if you I have a

1471
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,960
pool, I have a pool not impress
you.

1472
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:43,600
It's the last thing I want to
do.

1473
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,120
Impress you guys to be a second.
That that's what I've

1474
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:54,000
encountered is people who have
pools, except for Yuri, who live

1475
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,600
north of what we consider the
South southern United States.

1476
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,040
It's a status symbol.
It's a status symbol.

1477
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,880
Right.
And he?

1478
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,920
Uses his it's a it's a dance
floor.

1479
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,600
He just covered it with with a
deck, right?

1480
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,840
And you just have barbecues and
shit on the pool deck.

1481
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,000
No, I have.
In my case, I haven't like kind

1482
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,400
of the the green colored condom,
you just put it down there.

1483
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,840
There you go right now.
I call it that way.

1484
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,840
Oh, this has been this has been
fascinating year.

1485
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,000
We definitely want to have you
back on.

1486
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,640
You've been a great a great.
So much fun.

1487
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,360
Conversation with Mike and I
wrap this up all the time with

1488
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,000
with if you're having a bad day,
don't let the bad days when

1489
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,520
somebody's going to miss you,
Somebody Loves You.

1490
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,680
So make sure you wake up
tomorrow and and, you know, have

1491
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,200
a better day because once you go
to sleep, tomorrow is always a

1492
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,160
better day.
So if you're struggling, if

1493
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,080
you're depressed, you're down,
you know, reach out to somebody

1494
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,920
that you know, they want to talk
to you, they want to hear you,

1495
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,320
they want to help you get off
that ledge and and keep you

1496
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,520
around because you know, this is
what life's about conversations

1497
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,800
and meeting people.
And this has been a great hour

1498
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,440
and 15 minutes or so.
You're just getting to know you.

1499
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:00,840
And truly, Mike and I are
sincere to saying we want to

1500
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,880
have to come back on at some
point in time just to revisit

1501
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,760
and, and chat about life and
things like that.

1502
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,240
Absolutely.
So, So keep that in mind.

1503
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,320
And if you have anything you
want us to do as far as you

1504
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,960
know, like we sent you links to
like our, our pages and things

1505
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,720
like that and drop reviews on
the Facebook group.

1506
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,800
If you have anything else you
want us to do, by all means, let

1507
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,040
us know.
We'd be happy to do it for you.

1508
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,440
Yeah, just reach out.
Yeah, yeah, the the nice lady

1509
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:31,200
behind my emails, Sidra, she
will to execute what she

1510
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,880
believes makes sense because I
kind of ask her to become my

1511
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,280
producer.
I would say I produce people all

1512
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,320
my life and now I ask somebody
else to do kind of push me to be

1513
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,560
here.
So it's a big thanks for her to

1514
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,800
her.
She made it happen, to be

1515
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,040
honest.
So where where all the emails

1516
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,560
you have is from her.
And I think you see the very

1517
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,680
good job.
Nice guys, Chris, nice awesome

1518
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,640
guy Mike.
He designed lifestyle on his own

1519
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,000
choice is good as well.
So we're on the same page, Mike.

1520
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,840
Thank you.
Thank you man.

1521
01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:04,360
Yeah.
You're the first person to

1522
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,040
notice that on the podcast.
There you go.

1523
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,440
You're, you have a fantastic
game, man.

1524
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:12,000
We again, thank you so much for
joining us.

1525
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,280
It's been a blast, man.
We've learned so much from

1526
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,280
talking to you, man.
Thanks for coming on man, nice

1527
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,800
to meet you.
Nice to meet you guys.

1528
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,160
We're a great human.
We'll see you on Mars, buddy.

1529
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,680
No, I'm not.
No, no.

1530
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,760
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
We're just, we're just checking

1531
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,480
to make sure we're all still
staying here.

1532
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,720
Right, right.
Stay here.

1533
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,440
Listen, it is a fake bullshit
vision.

1534
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,400
There is no need to ghost.
We, we, we, we're good here.

1535
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:35,600
Yeah.
Cheers.

1536
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,000
Bye.
See you.

1537
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,320
Man, cheers buddy.
Love you Mike.

1538
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,200
See.
You love you too.

1539
01:20:41,960 --> 01:21:11,560
That was awesome.
Behind your eyes, yourself and

1540
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:17,240
need your nerves.
Take a moment, look until you

1541
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,680
see it.
Bite the bail and tear.

1542
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,200
Bite the bail.
Put your bail.

1543
01:21:25,280 --> 01:22:28,830
Hold your baby to your finger.
The.

1544
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:53,810
Come down here, you haven't
found solids in your sand.

1545
01:22:53,850 --> 01:22:58,290
You keep fun fighting.
Wait for the dead.

1546
01:22:59,730 --> 01:23:04,530
When you close.
Your eyes and you ain't no

1547
01:23:04,570 --> 01:23:09,450
creature when you're playing
smile and you just you press on

1548
01:23:09,650 --> 01:23:16,640
the almighty dance.
You got a team ruin your life to

1549
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:23,480
keep on going every day.
Take the trail behind your eyes.

1550
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,920
Feel the soul revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1551
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:38,760
yeah.
Take your moment.

1552
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,400
Listen to your fear.
What's your better with you?

1553
01:23:43,760 --> 01:24:11,830
More clear.
You gotta, You gotta.

1554
01:24:12,510 --> 01:24:14,150
You gotta.
You gotta.

1555
01:24:14,190 --> 01:24:54,960
You gotta.
The.