#120 - From Pearl Jam to Podcasting - Music, Memories, & Meaning

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We're live on the YouTube boys
and girls.

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Hello.
Hola.

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Hola MI Amor cristobal como
esta.

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Miguel.
Hola, Miguel.

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Don de Salam Bano.
That was where's the bathroom

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there, man?
That's it, That's all.

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That's all I've hoped past.
Here we go, You know we're just

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going to this play.
One of my favorite songs.

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We ever wrote.
I like I blew out the thing.

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We win.
This world's a day.

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We have a picture.
Yeah.

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Hello boys and girls.
It's Chris.

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That's Mike.
It's the Chris and Mike show.

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What's up, ladies and gentlemen?
Yes.

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What's up ladies?
It's just us.

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Today we had somebody coming on
that deemed herself the

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survivor, but apparently she has
not survived since the last time

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we instructed her to come on the
show today.

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Well, we hope she survived.
Well, yeah, it's just, you know,

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that was my clever plan.
Words.

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I don't know what her we never
like dove deep into things, you

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know, as far as insurance and
outs of of what we're going to

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talk about.
But it's OK, we got plan to talk

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about because.
In the grand scheme of things,

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I'm voting for flaking out
versus death.

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Right.
Well, I, I, I didn't want to

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make that assumption of death.
I just was being comical about

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the surviving, you know, I got,
I'm a survivor.

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I'm, you know, whatever it is.
So, so there's that.

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So what's going on, Mr. Mike
Michaels?

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I'm enjoying some Don
Francisco's with the Honey Don.

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Francisco, I had some Don
Francisco earlier today.

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Man, I like the butterscotch
stuff still.

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It's still my favorite.
I've been stuck on it, so you

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know, I'm an Amazon Prime
customer, and with Amazon Prime,

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they tell you how many times
you've ordered each thing, which

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sometimes can be quite comical.
I've ordered those three cans of

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coffee 37 times.
Holy smokes, man.

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Yeah, I've been drinking that
for a while.

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I think I'm only on our 4th or
5th jar of it.

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Well, you're you're, you're a
newcomer.

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So I'm a newcomer.
I am a newcomer.

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And how many, how many, how much
Don Francisco coffee do you

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drink on a weekly basis?
Like do you go through the

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entire can in a week or does it
take a little bit longer?

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Oh, it's longer than a week for
sure.

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Is it from Columbia or Peru
'cause I want to know where does

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Don Francisco come from?
It's from Colombia, it says so

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right on the can.
So is Don Francisco, is he a

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Don?
Is he a Italian Don?

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Is he like Gotti?
Like he just runs a runs an

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empire in in Colombia?
No, I'm going with he's probably

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yeah.
What are they in?

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They're Colombian.
They're Colombian, a political

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refugee from Colombia.
My name is Tony Montana.

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What's you talking about, man?
What's you talking about?

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The octopus coming out of my
ears, man.

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OK, OK.
Kind of like Juan Valdez in his

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faithful goat.
Yes, yes, yes, I remember that

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when he was walking on the
ledges of of of the mountaintop,

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right.
And and wasn't that the coffee

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commercial with a dude in New
York City it?

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Just became it became a funny
thing to say in the 90s with all

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that, you know, up and comers
that thought we were cool.

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Right.
Everybody just started saying

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Juan Valdez and his faithful
goat.

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It was just fun.
That's awesome.

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But yeah, you got it.
That was the commercial.

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OK, cool.
I thought so.

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So you saw the the thing we can
do headlines like that, that

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CEO, which I don't understand
what the big deal is about.

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Like the CEO was caught on a
Cam, like a kiss Cam of the

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Coldplay concert.
You see that shit and it's like

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all the rage.
I did not educate me.

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It's, it's some CEO, he's at a
Coldplay concert, ACEO for an

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astronomy company or something.
And and he's at the Coldplay

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concert with his girlfriend
while his wife's at home with

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their kids.
Right.

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But, but I mean, I don't, I
would never do that in my

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relationship, Right?
But, and to each his own, but we

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don't know the other side of
that coin.

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And everybody's, you know, oh,
big deal, big deal about all

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this shit.
I'm like, well, is that really

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news?
Is it really relevant?

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Does is it affect his job as
ACEO?

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Probably not.
So I think, I think I've said on

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here many times, and I'll
probably say it many more till

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people get sick of it, but
you're right, life is all

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perspective, right, Right.
So while on the face of it,

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yeah, that doesn't seem like it
would be news, but most people

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are looking at the news like
it's news.

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And what I hear when you say
that is it just proves to me

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that the news is what it is,
entertainment.

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Exactly.
Yep, exactly 100%.

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That's what I hear when you say
that headline.

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It's just because.
It's entertainment.

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Right, 'cause I don't care.
I'm not losing sleep because the

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guy's standing in a kiss, right?
So I don't know why people are.

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I mean, there's funny stuff
going on.

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Like somebody created the AI
thing, Like, you know, AI nailed

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it.
Because as soon as they came

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into play, the dude picked up
the chick and threw her off

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screen and jumped the other
direction.

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And you know.
I guess I should be careful to

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say what I mean by I don't give
a shit is I don't know the guy,

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right?
Well, no, right.

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If he's cheating on his wife, I
care a lot.

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That's wrong.
You know you shouldn't be doing

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shit like that.
But I don't know and you don't

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know and they don't know either.
And that's your point, so.

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Yeah, it's like nobody
understands what the dynamic is

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'cause it could, you know, we
had, we had somebody on our show

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that that it's in.
He's in an open relationship

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with his wife, right?
Correct.

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And she has a hall pass for the
rest of her life, as does he.

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And that's their dynamic.
And there's a lot of that out

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there.
Right and more.

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Than most people know.
Right.

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And there's nothing wrong with
that if that's if that's what

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you as a couple decide, right.
So when I saw it, and then I

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started seeing more and more of
it, and then people are posting

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it and I just kind of like,
that's what you're focusing on.

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Like well, and it's funny that
you bring that up because I

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didn't know that story, but I
literally yesterday, true story,

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just had this conversation about
human beings in general.

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Yes, in that we have not lived
as monogamous being.

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No.
For very long in the context of

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humanity, right.
So if you go from, we discussed

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it on the last show, I think
mitochondrial, yeah, we can

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trace everybody back to this one
woman.

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Right.
Yes, yes, from.

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That point forward, we have
lived in most actually tribes of

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50 to 100 people and nobody knew
who's each other's kids were

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because it wasn't necessary for
survival, right?

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We were not monogamous.
No, it was communal sex, it was

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Woodstock on steroids, but it
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life.
Correct.

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And the man haunted and the
women gathered and did the

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cooking and taking care of the
kids and whatever.

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But there was no you're my woman
and that's my man.

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And that's not how people have
lived.

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This is a new concept to
humanity.

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So if you want to know why men
cheat a lot, it's because it's

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still in our DNA, right?
They're part of that is

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ingrained in that in our
species.

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We're supposed to procreate and
keep the human population going

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forward.
We didn't.

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There was a time we, you said
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2000 people.
We could have never dreamed

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there would be 8 billion people
on the planet.

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Right.
No, no, because those 2000

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people did so much.
Here's a Here's a fun thing to

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do since you like the Google
machine.

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You were born in 1970.
Yes.

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OK, look at the United States
population in 1970.

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This is fascinating because then
we'll look at the United States

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population today, and it's crazy
how fast we populate this

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planet.
Yeah, especially with just 2000

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people because, you know, they
had to be doing it every day.

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I'm going to guess in 1970 the
population was around 215

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million.
US population in no OK in 1970.

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Come on man, that's not what I
asked.

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Sometimes I just this, ladies
and gentlemen.

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Sometimes I just like to hear
him argue with the Google

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machine.
This is what I asked US,

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Population 97.
This is what I got.

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OK legit what percentage of the
US was white in 1970?

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I didn't say that.
I said US population 1970.

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So this is thus 65% of the US
population identified as white.

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Only some identified as both as
white and a member of a racial

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slap ethnic minority group.
This is in contrast to 93%

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identifying as white in 1970.
US since since 1970.

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One 80% Nineteen, 8076 percent
90.

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I didn't.
I asked the population, man.

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Like that's what I asked.
It's stupid, stupid, stupid man.

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OK, so sometimes it's how you
ask.

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So one thing that I learned with
the Google machine and ladies

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and gentlemen, if you're
listening and you're smarter

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than me, I apologize, but this
might help people that are right

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where I was.
Don't use the term what is so

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leave.
So I just put US population in

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1970 and it came right up
203,302,031 people.

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OK, well fuck you Google.
Yeah, sometimes you got to be

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smarter than the Google and that
pisses me off.

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Yeah, yeah.
OK, so now US population in

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2025.
Are you doing it on yours or I

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need to do it on mine because we
don't have it on mine.

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I'll get it.
OK, how many people live in

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America?
How many people?

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331 million.
Well according to this it says

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340.1 million in 2024 because
all of a sudden when I typed how

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many people live, that's what
populated 330.1 million.

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So that's 120 some million
people. 7.5 million in Arizona.

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7.5 million in Arizona.
Now here's the here's a cool

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little graph I see.
So in 1940 we had 484,000 people

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in Arizona. 1940 there was 400,
just short of 500,000.

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People.
Yep, exactly.

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So in 19, Wow, what is that 60?
In 1960 we jumped to 1.4 million

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in 40.
In 20 years, boys and girls,

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Arizona's population increased.
Almost tripled in size.

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Well, I was going to say over a
million, like legit over

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1,000,000 people in that year.
And then in in from 1960 to 1988

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doubled to 2.7 million.
From 1982 thousand it more than

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doubled at 5.1 million.
And in two thousand 2020 it went

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from 5 million to 7.4 million,
which is where this says we

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hover today. 7.4 million was the
the census in 2024 or 7 point.

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Yeah.
So that's crazy.

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We're like ants.
We really.

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Are more like rabbits man, you
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I mean, just the way that we
keep building.

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Yeah, You know, yeah, probably
where we shouldn't.

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We we were never meant to live
in that valley in the middle of

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the desert.
No.

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If it wasn't for the Indians, I
don't think they're Native

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American excuse.
Me.

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God.
Damn it.

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It's OK man, you know it's it's
they built all the This is not a

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politically correct show.
The Hohokam built a.

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Canal.
No, but I like to.

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I like.
To oh, I know it's always good

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to be politically correct and,
you know, in some facets.

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That was one of the things that
I learned when I moved there

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that I found fascinating,
though, is that the Native

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Americans actually built the
waterways from the mountains

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down to the valley so that they
could grow food and live and

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can't survive without water.
So.

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Yeah, so here's the Google
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So Netflix shares fall as weak
dollar driven forecast fails to

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impress.
Whatever the hell that means.

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Where's this?
Oh yeah, no, that's not what I

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saw.
Something I was like, oh that

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look interesting.
Well, there's a lot of those

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things that are starting to
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existence, man.
Yeah, every year they keep

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right.
You know, YouTube TV, when I

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first signed up for it was sub
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and then it was like 62.
Now it's like 82 or 80.

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Four they.
Just keep raising it every

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quarter or six months or year.
They're just going to price

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themselves out of existence.
They'll be like cable.

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People will have to choose which
one or two they're going to

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have, or they're going to have
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prices.
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Nick and I were talking about
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these streaming things we need
to go through and just figure

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out which ones we actually
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And they just get rid of the
West because it's it's it's a

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waste of money.
I mean, like Paramount I get

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from a friend of mine.
So that's cool.

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I wonder who that could be?
Disney I get, we get From the

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Sky, so that's cool.
But so then we have Apple, we

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have Hulu, we have Netflix,
YouTube TV.

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What else is on there?
Peacock.

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Peacock.
And the reason I got Peacock, to

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be honest with you, is because
he had the Super fan episodes of

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The Office, and there's other
other things that trickle on

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that one.
And I get that.

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I keep Netflix because I love
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Right, right.
Amazon Prime.

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I don't think we ever really
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then.
Amazon Prime.

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I'll send you some stuff on
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Think like, OK, and we were,
when we were up at Nick's cabin

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over the 4th weekend, I was on
Bruce's, Nick's partner or Bruce

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or Nick's husband.
I was on his, his apple, right?

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It was his Apple.
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And there's all kinds of shit I
didn't know exist.

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I'm like, that's fascinating.
But then it was his account.

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So when I got home, I couldn't
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And I didn't think to remember.
But there's some really

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fascinating documentaries on on
Apple TV that I wasn't aware of.

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And I got to kind of dive into
that and see, see.

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What?
Maybe I should go through that

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again too.
I that might overlook some stuff

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too.
So, so 90s kid, OK 90s like 1990

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nineties kid.
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Have you ever seen that?
No, it's a documentary.

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It's a it's a really cool
documentary, actually.

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So L Moon Frye, AKA Punky
Brewster from our generation

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right TV show.
Well, during her her lifetime as

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a, as a thespian, she carried a,
a camcorder worth her the whole

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time, the entire time.
So like there's, there's like

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there's, there's house parties
at her house because her

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neighborhood, she grew up in a
very working class, single level

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ranch style home in California.
Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't

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think it.
But if you think about how, how

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that all plays out with a, a
child actor, they don't get the

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money till they're of age.
They get paid their working

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wage, basically whatever.
They're unless you're Gary

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Coleman and your parents rape
all your money from you, right?

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So a very middle class
lifestyle, but anything, anybody

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and every, not anybody, but
almost all of the people that

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were around the Punky Brewster
era.

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As far as other fellow actors in
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all of them at some point in
time, they all connected with

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each other, which I think is
because of the age and and back

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then, back then, the Hollywood
is different than it is now,

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right?
Because it was a more close

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knit, you know, But I mean,
think about, I mean Saved by the

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Bell cast.
Well, and they would have that

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thing that you like to talk
about that I don't think I ever

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put into words as far as being
in a band together.

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Nobody will ever have that
feeling because you were never

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there.
So they have that common ground

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of if you weren't a child actor,
you don't know what it's like to

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have to work 16 hours a day when
you're 10 years old, you know?

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But, and the cool thing about it
was so you have all these and it

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shows all her stuff.
It shows, it shows the the cute

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little punky booster growing up
and all the little innocence,

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right?
And then it it there's a there's

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a segment where she was out
partying with someone she knew,

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you know, passed out drunk,
stupid thing.

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And then, you know, when she
came, basically she lost her

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virginity because the guy was
took advantage of her because

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when she came out of, of
whatever this was on the on the

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show, the house room, whatever,
he, he, he was like, how does it

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feel to not be a virgin anymore?
And she was like, what the fuck?

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Like because she was they, she
went through a whole party stage

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with.
How old was she?

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Teenager.
No, I was, it was, I think it

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was after she was 18, but, but
the, yeah, probably after 18

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because that's when she kind of
started her and her core group

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of friends.
They all kind of started

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dabbling with, with the
different kinds of drugs and you

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know, the, the beers and the
partying.

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Because she specifically, I
don't know if you remember this

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or not, I vaguely do because
I'm, I could care less about

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women's breasts.
But she had developed from like

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nothing to like double D in, in
a, in a span of like 3 or 4

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years.
So once Punky Brewster ended,

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she used being typecast just for
the boobs.

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Like that's how she met Mark
Paul Gossler.

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So her I wouldn't remember
because I guess I never

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considered Punky Brewster to be
hot.

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You know, I watched the show,
but yeah, I wouldn't have

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remembered that.
Yeah, no, so, but she had she,

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she had developed so
dramatically that she actually

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had breast reduction surgery at
a very young age.

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But that's go through school
that had to have that done too

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high school.
You know, genetics sucks

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sometimes, right, And but that's
how she met.

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That's how she ended up becoming
friends with all saved by the

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cast bell, because they cast her
on that show as as Mark Paul

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Gosser's character.
Zach was like wowed by the

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boobs, but that was all her
stuff.

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Was she just she went through
this time frame and she even

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talked about on the on this
documentary.

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It's like I went from being a
child legitimately then all of a

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sudden overnight looking like
developed overnight, which it

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didn't.
But it you know, for all, for

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all intensive purposes, if you
didn't see her every day, all of

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a sudden you see her six months
later, but then she's the way

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they treat her dramatically
changed.

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She was being treated like a
child and then all of a sudden,

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because of, you know, the C's
and the D's that she was, you

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know, developing into the adults
started treating her

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differently.
The men started treating her

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differently because because
misogynistic assholes, you know,

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sexism, all that kind of jazz,
you know, focus right on the

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boobs.
Now, if you've never if you've

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never really Oh, it's I don't
want to say participant if

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you've never been really been
affected by that.

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Here's a quick story.
So Nikki and I had one.

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I had one Fox Sports when the
Diamondbacks were still

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Colangelo owned.
They had this, this contest

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right for charities.
And I want it, which I don't

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know how I want it for $1000.
But there's an entire behind the

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scenes tour of the Fox Studios
at Bank 1 Ballpark, behind the

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scenes of all the media at Bank
1 Ballpark.

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I I know we've talked about it
because I, I met Greg Schulte,

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who's a total prick.
Yes, Greg Schulte doesn't.

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Listen to every episode.
So yeah.

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No, I think you and I had had
this conversation, but so I

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think we.
Talked about it on here too, but

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it's.
Cool story.

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OK, so we met.
We met Greg Schulte Brick.

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I said it twice.
You're welcome.

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Joe Garrigiolo, senior, super
nice guy, like just amazing.

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And he actually signed a
baseball for me.

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I have no idea where it is.
Which that sucks because you

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know, he was just a superhuman,
but we got to see all the.

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I'm jealous you met him.
I always thought he was really

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cool when he did the color
commentary for the time back, so

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it seemed like a really new and
human being so.

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That's good.
And that's and that's how it

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came across where when we walked
into the booth, Schulte and him

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were in there.
And Schulte, really, You thought

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that we were intruding on his
life's work like he was going to

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he.
Could tell he was put out by the

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fact he had to.
Him.

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Totally, totally.
Yeah, I hate that.

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And and didn't pretend like,
just like I left there thinking

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you're a Dick, Joe, you're
amazing.

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That's great to be here.
Yeah, and if it would have been

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in my world today now, I would
have told Schulte you're a Dick.

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Like really dude?
I won a contest for Diamondback

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Charities to be here, you can
give me 5 minutes of your

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precious time because all you do
is sit on your fat ass and talk

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about a baseball game for four
hours.

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So really dude, really?
You're not that good, right?

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They live in most people's dream
that love baseball.

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They would love to do that.
Exactly.

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Yeah, be gracious, man, because
I don't even know where he is

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anymore.
So just be gracious and

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respectful just for the sheer
fact that, you know, you're

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you're 5 minutes with me.
Change my perception of you for

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the rest of my life, Greg.
Rest of my life, you will always

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be a prick.
Joe Garry, Joe Osina, who's no

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longer with us, will always be a
genuine human being.

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That was super nice to us.
And then you have Todd Walsh,

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OK, the guy that would comment
before the show, before the game

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and after the game, remember.
Him.

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OK?
Yep, I do now, yeah.

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So while we were talking to Todd
Walsh, what do you think his

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eyes were the entire time
looking at Nikki's breasts?

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Nikki's cleavage, because she
was wearing a jersey so you

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could see the cleavage.
And kid you not, that's how

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disrespectful this dude was the
entire time that we are talking

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to him and it's Nikki and I and
him and he.

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Legit every time I catch his eye
he's looking at her cleavage

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right in front of me.
A quick addendum, public service

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announcement gentleman out
there, if you were standing in

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front of a woman who especially
if it's a tall woman and she

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has, she's well endowed, do your
best to look at her eyes while

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she's talking to you.
That's that's the respectful

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thing to do.
They're a human being.

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They are a beautiful creature.
There's no question.

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But that is I agree with Chris,
that is so super disrespectful.

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All of us want to sit there and
say, yes, you're beautiful and

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you have you're you're well
endowed.

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It's.
Gorgeous isn't wasn't well

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endowed.
What what what you talk about

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with men, whereas women it's
it's you're voluptuous.

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Voluptuous.
Yeah, yeah, I think the dwell

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endowed refers to the danglings.
Yeah, whatever you got.

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Big tits.
I mean, that's how I talk.

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I'm just trying not to talk that
way.

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Right now, now we can go further
with this example and go to the

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Seinfeld episode where they're
pitching the pilot.

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Remember that.
Yes.

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And, and what's his face's
daughter comes in the room and

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he catches George Costanza,
like, motorboating without

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motorboating his daughter.
And then so he likes Russell or

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something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Russell,

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Right.
And then he flies off the

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handle, which rightfully so.
Yep, you're, you're, you're.

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Ogling my my daughter, my
innocent little daughter.

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You're Googling, you know,
ogling her, right?

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So then what do the Seinfeld
does?

450
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,160
He gets Elaine or Elaine
convinces them that she can do

451
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,160
it right.
And then so Elaine shows up at

452
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,360
this restaurant and she's trying
so hard to find it.

453
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,720
She's just.
Going to push up, Bra going

454
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,280
right.
Yep, and and then he's like

455
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280
Russell's staring right at
Elaine, but Jerry's over here.

456
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,000
He's like line of sight, huh?
Yep.

457
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,080
The next episode they have their
pilot.

458
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,080
So you know, that's.
We're all guilty.

459
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240
Right.
But it just, it was fascinating

460
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,320
to me to watching her
documentary because it had, it

461
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,840
truly gave very raw and real
footage of what it was like to

462
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,120
grow up in Hollywood at the
time.

463
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,360
She had nothing negative to say
about her childhood.

464
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:10,680
She said she had a great
childhood.

465
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,560
She didn't miss out on anything.
The people that were in the

466
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,840
commentary with her, Perry
Ferrell was in it, you know,

467
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,880
Mark, Paul Gossler, the the some
of the crew from Alf and

468
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Emmanuel Lewis and Gary.
I mean, just kind of anybody and

469
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,480
everybody in that era was.
There.

470
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520
This is on Apple.
I don't think it's.

471
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,040
I think it's on.
I don't know what was on this

472
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Apple or or Netflix or
something.

473
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,160
Hold on, I'll Google it.
OK, 90s kid, Nineties, 90s kid.

474
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:49,640
So well.
Kid 90 is what it's called kid

475
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520
90.
That's a coming of age story.

476
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520
So here's the people in it.
So I'm Moon Fry, Jonathan

477
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,520
Brandis, Justin Pierce, Leonardo
DiCaprio, Harold Hunter, Johnny

478
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,160
Depp, Mark Wahlberg's in it
Charlie Sheen.

479
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280
She loved Charlie Sheen.
She wanted to marry Charlie

480
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,200
Sheen, which is kind of funny,
but that age, right, her dad

481
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,440
found out was an actual like
rock star actor who was in the

482
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Marlon Brando era, Paul Newman
era.

483
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,680
Brian Austin Green from nine O 2
and on David Arquette's in

484
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960
there.
Corey Feldman, Sarah Gilbert

485
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,560
Meyer Lopez, Michael Rapaport,
Steven Dorf, Alfonso Riviera,

486
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Freddie Prinze Junior Joey
Lawrence.

487
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,360
I mean, it's a it's a list.
Mark Paul Gossler, Perry

488
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:34,000
Farrell, Mark McGrath Bartholos
and our Getty Emmanuel Lewis,

489
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,040
Jonathan Silverman, Heather
McComb, Dana Ashbrook, Charlie

490
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,320
Johnson, Virgil Fries, Her dad,
some Danny Boy rapper that she

491
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,960
dated for a while.
You can tell we lived through

492
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,560
the 90s.
I recognize every name.

493
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,040
Yeah, it was, it was, it was
amazing.

494
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Just the amount of of people
that.

495
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,400
But again, it goes along.
Yeah, it's on YouTube and Hulu,

496
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,280
but it goes along with it goes
along with because she just

497
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,000
carried this camera around and
then I think 6 or 8 of them all

498
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:11,440
passed away in her lifetime.
Like like some suicide, like one

499
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,680
of one of the girls, she wrecked
her, her Corvette.

500
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,640
And then so a week later, she
blew her head off Jonathan

501
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Brandis hung himself in a
hallway.

502
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,400
It just, you know, crazy that
the, the trauma that they went

503
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480
through, but it was all
documented, which was cool.

504
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,520
The good, then the bad.
And then, you know, and she

505
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,640
looks good for her age too,
because she's around our age.

506
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,560
It was just, it's a fascinating
thing.

507
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,360
If you, if you, if you grew up
watching 90s sitcoms, watch

508
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,920
that.
It's an hour and a half long.

509
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,480
It's, it's, you don't have to
really watch it.

510
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Watch it.
It can be background noise.

511
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,960
You still pick it all up because
all it is is interviews.

512
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,680
And she recorded phone calls,
dude.

513
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,640
She recorded messages from from
like throughout her career.

514
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,280
She said fuck some fucking some
context in her.

515
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,040
She has she has a voice message
from a manager lighting her up.

516
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,000
Like why are you doing that?
People don't want to see Punky

517
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,400
Booster saying fuck it's.
Funny you say that because I

518
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,440
just got done listening to a
Henry Rollins interview from

519
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,280
like 2017 on Rogan and he
documented every show he ever

520
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520
played from the time he before
he was in Black Flag.

521
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,760
So like the very first band he
was ever in when he was like 17,

522
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,760
he documented the date, the
time, the venue, where it's at,

523
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,880
all the way through.
Like, you know, he became a

524
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,600
spoken word guy.
What, in the 90s, late 90s

525
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,000
maybe.
And he's been doing that pretty

526
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,680
much ever since.
In addition to his music, he's

527
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,400
documented all those shows too.
And he does like 150 to 170 of

528
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,840
those shows a year.
I thought that was fascinating.

529
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Most people don't have that.
That's an OCD on a level even I

530
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,560
don't have.
Yeah, that's that's it's well,

531
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,160
YouTube does it.
YouTube records all their shows,

532
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,360
but they do that.
I think more from the standpoint

533
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560
of let's make sure we're doing
putting the best product on

534
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,160
stage and and make sure that if
we, we, because you catch things

535
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,640
live that unless you're
recording it, you never can

536
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,040
recapture that, which is which
is why bands it's a good idea.

537
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Like we did you record your
practices, whether it's audio or

538
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560
video, because there's things
that you do when you're jamming,

539
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,160
your chances are you're never
going to you're never going to

540
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,440
grab that again because it's
it's in the moment.

541
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,120
Well, yeah, I told you that was
the best lesson that I ever got

542
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,960
from the guy that taught me to
play guitar was he just made one

543
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240
simple statement.
Tape doesn't lie, you know.

544
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,120
So if you think you're playing
good, record it.

545
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,760
And a lot of times you'll listen
to it back and go, oh, yeah.

546
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,320
That's not it's only sounds good
to me.

547
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,800
It doesn't sound good to anybody
else.

548
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400
Right.
Or you confirm, yeah, it sounds

549
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,000
maybe even better than I thought
it did.

550
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920
There's those instances as well.
But you're right man, if you

551
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400
have to record it and listen
back to it because sometimes

552
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,920
your ears are deceiving, you
want to believe it sounds good.

553
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,560
Yeah, you do.
And like you said, you're here

554
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,880
to receive.
It's kind of like being nose

555
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840
blind, right?
You live in the house and you

556
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880
have your smells and all of a
sudden somebody comes to your

557
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,200
house like your house smells,
man.

558
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920
What is that?
Well, do you know that

559
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560
scientifically, your nose
doesn't smell anything?

560
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,720
Your nose detects changes in
smell, which is why people can

561
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440
live next to like a sail barn,
you know, where they sell hogs

562
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280
and cattle and people say they
get used to it.

563
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000
That's true.
Because your nose actually

564
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
detects changes in smell.
You don't smell anything.

565
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040
It's a defense mechanism that we
have.

566
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,520
Interesting.
So that you don't eat something

567
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,120
that would poison you.
Before we knew what things were

568
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840
right, you'd picked up that
plant and it stunk and you're

569
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,400
like, Oh yeah, don't eat that.
OK, I never knew that.

570
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Yep, interesting.
The things you learn man.

571
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,000
The things you learn.
So do you have anything yet

572
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,000
ripped from the headlines you
want to chat about?

573
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120
I don't know man.
I kind of, I haven't really

574
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680
watched the news here lately.
Yeah, I haven't either.

575
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680
I mean a little bit, but mostly
to see what the weather was.

576
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,800
I've been having fun driving my
new ride man.

577
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Oh, I bet, yeah.
Going flying down the country.

578
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Roads.
Yeah, I actually get in the car

579
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,680
and go for a drive here lately.
And I'll give a shout out to

580
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,080
this guy because he really
inspired me to start picking up

581
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,600
my guitar.
I'd play every day anyway, but

582
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360
man, I'm playing a lot longer
watching this guy's YouTube

583
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,040
channel.
It's the Feedback Guitar

584
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,640
Academy.
If you're a guitar player and

585
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,720
you're listening to this
podcast, check this guy out.

586
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,760
He's very he explains things and
layman's terms so idiots like me

587
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440
can understand.
And he's very passionate about

588
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,880
what he does.
I like his energy.

589
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,440
You know, he just makes you want
to play.

590
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Right on.
Instead of talking to his

591
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,600
audience like they're idiots,
which a lot of guys do, even if

592
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,040
they don't realize it, he's very
positive.

593
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200
You know, like I made all these
mistakes too, and here's how I

594
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,600
fixed them.
I like people like that.

595
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Yeah, yeah.
So I have been watching a lot of

596
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,240
his channel here lately.
Well, that's good.

597
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Oh, and I ran that.
I ran that scenario by, I told

598
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,240
you I work with a lady whose
parents immigrated here from

599
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Mexico.
And I said I almost guarantee

600
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,720
you that she would say it, that
your story gives her people a

601
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,680
bad name. 100 per.
Story.

602
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Whose story?
Yours.

603
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,840
All about about the people that
were blocking my line and.

604
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360
When they pretended that they
couldn't understand a word you

605
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040
said.
And one of the first things she

606
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,720
said was, you know, how did they
get a landscaping job if they

607
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,400
couldn't understand that, You
know, Yeah.

608
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,400
Yeah, I had somebody reach out.
That just was like way pissed

609
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,080
off when they saw that I had
somebody else reach out.

610
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Somebody I sold the house to
years ago.

611
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,360
Kevin Klein, who owns.
Pissed off in what context?

612
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Well, the SO the landscape when
they were pissed off that I was

613
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,400
treated the way I was treated
because I wasn't being a Dick.

614
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,680
I was wanting to make sure that
people are mad in the right

615
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,760
direction.
Right.

616
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
So they were pissed off how how
they reacted to my request to to

617
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,000
politely just move their vehicle
because again, I got there and

618
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760
so.
Well, of course, her first

619
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,720
question was the same question
that we all had.

620
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Why did they block the pump to
begin with?

621
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Right.
They're going to go in and sit

622
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,080
down and eat breakfast.
Why did they just leave their

623
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,480
vehicle there?
Yeah, and that's the thing, too,

624
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920
because when you go into a
restaurant, you know, you order,

625
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,160
then you got 20 minutes usually
for your food, of course.

626
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,920
So he was at least there for 1/2
an hour, I'd say, because by the

627
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,560
time I walked in there, he was
already probably 1/4 of the way

628
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,280
through what he was eating.
So there's at least 1/2 an hour

629
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,680
of him blocking that.
So I want the first person that

630
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,080
he blocked.
And then by the time I went in

631
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200
and out of the restaurant, while
they ignored me, then came back

632
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,400
and kind of looked at the
situation.

633
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,480
How can I get my truck
maneuvered so I can get this

634
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000
fuel?
Because again, my truck takes

635
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160
ethanol as well as gas.
There's only two stations in

636
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,960
Arizona that take ethanol.
This was one of them.

637
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
So if you didn't hear the story,
I pulled up this landscape

638
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,200
truck, a white dual dually Crew
Cab with the world's longest

639
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,480
trailer was basically blocking 3
to 4 pumps on one side of this

640
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
gas station with only has 12
pumps.

641
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,120
The ethanol had two.
The one on the north side of

642
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,280
this pump was out of order.
So I the S 1 was the only one

643
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,360
available.
So I had to figure out how to

644
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680
maneuver around to get to it,
which I eventually did and just

645
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,240
extended the hose all the way
across, you know, the, the

646
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,600
little concrete pad, whatever.
I couldn't go up too close

647
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,200
because some other bozo was
sitting there with his truck, a

648
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
delivery van that was nowhere to
be seen.

649
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
So it's like everybody decides
let's just park under the gas

650
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,640
pumps so we can eat food instead
of actually parking in the 12

651
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400
spots in front of the
restaurant, which is fine.

652
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920
So, but I had, I have, I've had
people reach out.

653
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520
They were pissed off about the
the fact that it's not that

654
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,160
difficult to just, you know, be
a nice human.

655
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Now, transversely, the other fun
thing that happened with the

656
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,400
months park the the tire rubbing
on the white car.

657
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,720
Somebody I sold the house two
years ago, Kevin Klein.

658
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,760
Hey, Kevin, who owns a
motorcycle shop in Colorado.

659
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,159
He looks at the picture of the
car and he's like carb cleaner.

660
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,199
I was like, what?
He's like, carb cleaner takes

661
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,880
that right off.
That's the extent of the damage

662
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,800
of that car that that crazy lady
is telling me, trying, trying

663
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,239
to, trying to say that, oh, you
know, damages and whatever.

664
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,800
Yeah, and that's basically what
I saw.

665
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,000
And I'm an idiot.
I don't, I'm not a body guy, but

666
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,360
you know, I would be.
My initial thought would be, oh,

667
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,880
fuck, you know, But then when I
looked at it again, it's like,

668
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,800
OK, so it sucks that it happened
right?

669
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,600
But I think I told you in a text
message, that's the best of a

670
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,520
worst case scenario, right?
At least it can be buffed out

671
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
and it's a body.
Guy looked at that just like you

672
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,840
said and went no problem.
And he looked at it off a

673
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,040
picture, so he's not even seeing
it in person, right?

674
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,520
He's seen it from a.
Picture.

675
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,760
But if you blew that up like I'm
sure he did and I did, I blew it

676
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,040
up as far as I could get it.
There was no dent.

677
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,880
There's no paint missing.
It's just no your rubber scuffed

678
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,320
the what left side of her
bumper.

679
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,520
The the passenger, the driver's
side rear panel, right, right as

680
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,120
you, as you, as you pass the
tire go up to where the trunk's

681
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,280
at.
It rubbed right there.

682
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040
That's it.
And it can be cleaned with carb

683
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,800
cleaner.
So you don't even need a body

684
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,360
guy.
No, but you know, according to

685
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,880
her, she's probably walking
around in crutches with a, with

686
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,520
a neck brace and you know, and
how much damage did she say was

687
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,680
I don't know.
They, they won't tell me.

688
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,800
They I called, no, I called AAA
yesterday to get an update And,

689
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,200
and I, it's like I put the lady
out who's handling the claim

690
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,320
because she was like really
short.

691
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,520
I'm like, I'm just calling to
get an update.

692
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,280
She's like, well, if I had an
update, I would let you know.

693
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,520
I'm like, oh, OK, well, sorry
for bothering you.

694
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,640
I just wanted to get an update.
And you know that was that.

695
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,760
I can't believe that people go
to that level.

696
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,640
I know something that's that
minute, you know, does it suck?

697
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,920
Yeah.
Anybody would.

698
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Their initial reaction would be,
ah, shit, you know, that really

699
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440
sucks.
But then you kind of calm down a

700
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,040
little bit and you look at the
situation, you're like, you

701
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,840
know, my car is not dented, the
Fender still there.

702
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,280
There's no paint missing.
OK, we're good.

703
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Yeah.
That would have been me.

704
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,280
By the end of it, I'd have been
like, this sucks, but you know,

705
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,360
I'll take care of it, it's no
big deal.

706
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Right and that's the thing and
that's what I told her when I

707
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,000
looked at it.
I'm like, OK, I'm sorry, I

708
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,280
didn't mean to do it.
You're you're the way you were

709
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,920
parked aided in the fact that my
tire clipped it because you're

710
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,320
not parked in properly, which I
get because it was a crazy

711
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,280
parking lot, a convenience store
parking lot.

712
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480
I said, but it's it's something
he'll be buffed out.

713
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,680
It's I didn't damage your
vehicle, aside from tire tread

714
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,600
rubbing on your Fender, it's
nothing.

715
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
That's, but she wasn't having
it.

716
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,200
She wouldn't give me her name.
I'm sorry.

717
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,320
I ordered the police report.
I'm waiting to get that.

718
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
So when I get that, I'm
hopefully it will, it will shed

719
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,560
some light on who she is and
like license plate and name and

720
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,680
all that kind of jazz.
So then I can, I have a friend

721
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,720
whose husband's a private
investigator.

722
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,360
So I can be like, hey, go track
this woman down and and get

723
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200
pictures of her doing jumping
jacks in her front yard 'cause

724
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,360
you know she is.
Right, Yeah, 'cause those kind

725
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
of people aren't smart enough to
play that role all the way

726
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,720
through.
You know, that's the long con,

727
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,080
and that takes commitment.
Well, and just to do it with, I

728
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,440
mean, and she had her two
daughters there, which were it's

729
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,280
hard to tell how old girls are,
But I'm, you know, from from a

730
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,040
visual standpoint, I'm thinking,
you know, 17 to like 22 range,

731
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
right, because you just, it's
hard to tell, like I couldn't

732
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,840
tell how old she was, but I'm
assuming she's probably in her

733
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,240
40s but acting like a nine year
old.

734
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,800
But that's like you're showing
that's your example to your

735
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,280
daughters.
You they know you're lying.

736
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Right.
Like they, they just the example

737
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,320
and you're specifically showing
them how to try to con the

738
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,840
system for something that didn't
happen and, and, and try to get

739
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,040
money out of it.
And then in return F over the

740
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440
person that you're going after.
Because if if the claim gets

741
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960
settled then all of a sudden my
insurance goes up for something

742
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:20,160
that was really a 5 minute buff
it out, you're done stupid.

743
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,200
People suck.
Sometimes people do suck.

744
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Or, as I told you and as Jim
told us many years ago, people

745
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,600
are strange.
People are strange when they're

746
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,640
strangers.
Yeah, I have a This is a little

747
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800
fun little story, so I.
Actually thought I understood

748
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,120
that song, but it took me a long
time to really understand it.

749
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,920
I get.
It now the people are strange.

750
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,120
When you're a stranger, that's
the important part of that song

751
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,440
is I don't think like the rest
of you.

752
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,960
That's what he was telling us,
right?

753
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,320
I can't.
I can't comprehend the way you

754
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800
guys are living.
So people are strange when

755
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,600
you're a stranger.
Faces look ugly when you're

756
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,520
alone.
Women seem wicked when you're

757
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000
unwanted.
Streets aren't even when you're

758
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000
down when you're strange.
Faces come out of the rain when

759
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520
you're strange.
No one remembers your name when

760
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
you're strange, when you're
strange, When you're strange.

761
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,600
See.
That's it.

762
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,680
That's the entire context of the
lyrics.

763
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,000
That's it.
He wrote 1/2, 2 verses and a

764
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,080
course.
I know, but it's.

765
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,360
That's dude, but.
That's all it took.

766
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,960
It took me 20 years to figure
out exactly what he was saying

767
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160
because you have to live that
many years of your life to

768
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,800
really get what he was saying.
He had to live that many years

769
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,760
to write those lyrics.
That's that's, that's insane

770
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000
that it's that simple.
I mean, I mean, you know me and

771
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,800
you and I are both like, you
know, simple as you know, keep

772
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,680
it simple.
But that's.

773
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,280
So now I would like to call it
effective, right?

774
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,120
How effective is that
simplicity?

775
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,880
Because he packed that message,
just that one line to me.

776
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,720
People are strange when you're a
stranger.

777
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:03,080
Just that one line that just
blows by so many people.

778
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,640
They don't get it.
I didn't mean to interrupt your.

779
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Story.
No, no, you're good dude.

780
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560
But that's just I mean, I've I
love Morrison and the door.

781
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,560
I know you do.
I just that blows my mind that I

782
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,960
never realized that was just
basic.

783
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560
You were actually the person in
my life that gave me the

784
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,840
appreciation for the Doors that
I never have because you were so

785
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,320
rabid about Morrison at the
time, and rightfully so.

786
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,880
Right?
You're coming from a lyricist

787
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,920
standpoint.
Yeah.

788
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,520
Wow.
My dad is a fan of the.

789
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,800
Doors too.
So I listened to him, but you

790
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,680
know, then I met you and I'm
like, oh alright, I better give

791
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,720
him a listen again.
Right, so this is a funny thing

792
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,960
since we're on the doors, so and
I've I've known this for years.

793
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,880
So the radio version of break on
through the other side is

794
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,640
actually actually has been
edited.

795
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,520
It doesn't have all the true
original lyrics in it because

796
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,600
you have the the 1st 2 verses
that you know, you know night.

797
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Day destroys the night, Night
defies the day.

798
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Try to run.
Try to hide, break on through to

799
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,400
the other side.
Great song.

800
00:40:58,720 --> 00:40:59,840
Right.
And we chased our pleasures

801
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
here, dug all treasures there.
But can you kill, Recall the

802
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
time we cried, break on through
to the other side.

803
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,280
So hey, Yeah, Come on.
Yeah.

804
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,360
Right.
And then everybody loves my

805
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,240
baby.
Remember this part?

806
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,240
Everybody loves my baby.
Everybody loves my baby.

807
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Right.
They took all that out.

808
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,880
That's that's the high parts out
like that.

809
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,400
She no longer no, if you listen
to the radio, you will never

810
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
hear the she gets high part.
I guess I never realized that

811
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,000
because I always listen to my
version on, you know, my

812
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,840
playlist.
Right, No, even on, even on even

813
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,080
on like the the stuff you buy
online because I've I've bought

814
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600
the all the greatest hits and
stuff that's cut out.

815
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,240
It's kind of like with Creed
with what's this life for where

816
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:50,120
stop stop no longer sings.
He never hit.

817
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,840
He no longer sings God damn in
the song and on the the version

818
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,240
you buy online, they they took
it out, which, you know, we've

819
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,560
talked about that before because
his he got religiified again,

820
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,160
which is cool, but so that's
something he doesn't want to

821
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,400
have with his legacy anymore.
So that that lyrics gone.

822
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,320
It's just you don't ever hear
him sing, you know?

823
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,720
No, Whatever the fuck it is, I
can't.

824
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,640
Probably goddamn school or
whatever.

825
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Don't have to settle.
No goddamn school there, you.

826
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,800
Go.
That's the line.

827
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,160
And but that, to me, changes the
vibe of that song because it

828
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,480
captures the moment of his anger
and angst towards the organized

829
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,120
religion, you know, which he
struggled with for a long

830
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,520
portion of his life when Creed
became Creed and broke out, you

831
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,360
know?
And I guess that's why so I have

832
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,560
my opinions on this too, but
they've, they've changed over

833
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,120
the years.
Just like I like to say, I'm not

834
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,600
married to any of my ideas,
right?

835
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:51,160
I, it's good to be open and like
a sponge for your entire life.

836
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:56,720
But I guess what I would like to
say about that is it was written

837
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,080
just like you said, in the right
artistic context for the message

838
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,600
of the song.
It's not like he was given a

839
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:10,240
middle finger to God himself or
the idea of a supreme being.

840
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,600
He was given the middle finger
to the oppressive.

841
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Right.
I have my thumb on you from his

842
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,800
father and his mother or whoever
in his family, you know, forced

843
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,400
him to be what he didn't feel
was him at the time, right?

844
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Which everybody goes through.
That's the teenage angst.

845
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,600
That's why bands like Pearl Jam
were so successful at their

846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160
breaking point.
Because the entire 10 album and

847
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,720
never mind Nirvana, all that was
was never Mind Itself or Smells

848
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,000
Like Teen Spirit, the epitome of
teenage angst.

849
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,840
But, and that's but and and
teenagers identified that shit

850
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,000
kind of like back in the day,
they identified to The Beatles,

851
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,360
right?
They identified to the Doors

852
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,880
because here's something
completely out of the norm that

853
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,920
the parents didn't like at all,
because it wasn't Dean Martin.

854
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,080
Well, and one thing that you and
I have commented that I'd like

855
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640
to reiterate because not
everybody listens to every show,

856
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,000
but right, you can't touch Pearl
Jams 10 album.

857
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,680
It's one of the greatest debut
albums in the history of music

858
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,560
of any kind.
They never recreated that after

859
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,720
maybe verses, right?
Phytology had some great songs

860
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,000
on.
So we'll give them up to

861
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,880
Vitology, but they lost that
fire and I'm not sure it's their

862
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,360
fault.
You know, can you ever have that

863
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,160
again?
Is what I always wrestle with in

864
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,360
my head, right?
And I don't think you can.

865
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,160
I don't think the initial, the
initial releases from any band

866
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
can ever be as strong as the
initial initial release.

867
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,000
And the reason behind that I
think which you can relate to

868
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,840
this is you spend how much time.
Your entire life up to that

869
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,800
point.
Right.

870
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,240
And then and then like the songs
you have that you start playing

871
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:54,160
out 12 to 20 songs, those things
are so tight and flawless.

872
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,960
By the time you get to the level
of I'm going to go record these

873
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000
in the studio and I'm going to
release an album, you've played

874
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,760
them live thousands of times.
So you know, the different

875
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
nuances of improv and, and what
works and what doesn't work, the

876
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,640
fills and shit like that and the
breakdowns and the, you know

877
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,280
everything, right?
And then you go and you and you

878
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,080
turn into, you know, you, you
record 10 and then all of a

879
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,640
sudden you're touring these
small clubs like Mason Jar.

880
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,280
And then somebody plays Jeremy
and it fucking explodes.

881
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
And then all of a sudden you're
going from Mason Jar to the

882
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,560
ballroom, from the ballroom to
the celebrity theatre, from

883
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160
celebrity theatre to Talking
Stick Arena, from Talking Stick

884
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,040
to cricket in the course of a
year or maybe 18 months.

885
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440
So your entire life gets
uprooted, right?

886
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,640
No, you're right.
In that case it was within 12

887
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,240
months.
Right, because you never, you

888
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,120
don't live on the road and all
of a sudden you're living on the

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,640
road and then you're forced with
the label saying, because back

890
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,640
then label got behind you.
Oh, you need to write more

891
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,040
product.
You need to write more material.

892
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Well, then your, your, your
point of view changes because

893
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,280
now all of a sudden, this entire
world, which used to be so far

894
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,080
away because before the
Internet, now you're in places

895
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,160
you never dreamed of and you're
exposed to things you never

896
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,960
thought you'd be exposed to.
And then you there's a time when

897
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Vedder would wear masks like,
you know, I had for COVID

898
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,320
because he couldn't go anywhere
without being recognized and

899
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,800
mobbed, kind of like with Elvis,
kind of like with The Beatles.

900
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,560
So you just hit the nail on the
head right there.

901
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,600
That's the epitome of the
message, is you went from

902
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,360
suffering and not knowing where.
And you and I lived through it,

903
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,640
too.
We didn't know where our next

904
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,000
meal was coming from.
That's why we always hail

905
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,320
Filibertos, you know, because we
could get a gigantic burrito

906
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,960
that would keep us full for an
entire day for 2 bucks back in

907
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,440
the day.
That was important.

908
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Yeah, and now all of a sudden
you're eating caviar and trying

909
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,640
to hide your face, right?
How can you write a song like

910
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,600
I'm still Alive, right?
Because that's one of my

911
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,560
favorites.
Once is another great one.

912
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Once in a life.
Those are great examples of

913
00:46:53,440 --> 00:47:00,280
feeling where emotion or music
becomes emotion out loud, right?

914
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,800
You can feel what he's trying to
say.

915
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,440
Right, and looking at and
looking at their list once, once

916
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,480
starts that album off, which is
just really cool 'cause it.

917
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Has your ass right off the.
Bat it has that dark little

918
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,120
interlude, right?
Instrumental thing.

919
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,120
That drum beat is outstanding.
Yeah, yeah.

920
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Then you go to Evenflo, which I
think was their first release,

921
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,080
which opened with a montage of
surfing.

922
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,280
Then a live came next.
But then Jeremy, when Jeremy

923
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,480
released, that's what took them
to the stratosphere.

924
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Even though even though I think
alive and and even for better

925
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,040
songs, I didn't No you're.
Right.

926
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,840
Jeremy introduced him to the
world, no.

927
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,760
Question.
Yeah.

928
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
That was the top ten.
Single might have been #1.

929
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,840
Yeah, porch love porch.
Me too.

930
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,360
Coming to you.
Then leave a message.

931
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,320
At least I could have divorced
on last time.

932
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,560
That melody's outstanding,
right?

933
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Yeah, so let's see what?
And if you want to know what

934
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Melody does for people, ladies
and gentlemen, the fact that

935
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,920
Chris just ripped that right out
of his subconscious, that's what

936
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Melody does for you.
It forces you to remember it.

937
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,920
So how many number one hits does
Pearl Jam have?

938
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,360
The song follows a four week
reign of the group's dark

939
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,000
matter.
That's not what I asked.

940
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Man, I hate this fucking Google
machine.

941
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,920
I asked.
Basically, Pearl Jam songs

942
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,080
charted.
Pearl Jam songs are charted.

943
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Let's see.
Oh OK, there it is.

944
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Maybe Daughter 1993 was was was
charted Better Man in 2005,

945
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,920
given to Flying 98.
And then there's two number one

946
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:50,440
to 2024.
Their most played song is Even

947
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Flow. 739 million plays.
I think I just said that is

948
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,360
emotions in music form.
Yep, I've been.

949
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,080
So it's even Flow Alive, Black
and Jeremy, which is

950
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,720
interesting, right?
Because they're right.

951
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,640
Because they're all from 10.
All from 10.

952
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,600
That's because you can listen to
that album.

953
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,680
You just said.
From beginning to end.

954
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280
And there's no weak songs on
that album.

955
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,280
There just isn't.
Those guys wanted it like there

956
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,680
was no tomorrow.
Because if you know, most people

957
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,880
don't know you and I are freak
historic music historians.

958
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,280
But Pearl Jam came out of Mother
Love Bone when their singer died

959
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:33,440
tragically of a heroin overdose.
The rest of the band still

960
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
wanted it on a level like there
was no tomorrow, and they got

961
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,120
lucky and found Eddie Vedder,
who was equally as talented at

962
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,040
conveying lyrics and emotion to
his audience.

963
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Yeah, there's a there's a
documentary about Temple the

964
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,920
dog.
You ever see that?

965
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,320
Yeah, I have so so the.
The coolest thing about that was

966
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,600
was when they released Oh my
God, Jake would kill me right

967
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
now.
Hunger strike.

968
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Sorry, son.
When they, when they dropped

969
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,440
hunger strike, I remember the
members of Pearl Jam when we

970
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,640
talked to them about hunger
strike is like they're like,

971
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,680
yeah, we got a singer too.
Like, 'cause you, you're with

972
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,280
Chris Cornell, OK, You can't
touch Chris Cornell.

973
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,080
He's up there.
With Robert Plant, I don't care

974
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,080
what anybody says.
Yeah, Robert Plant, Freddie

975
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Murkley, the dude, just the
voice was unheard of, right?

976
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,760
But it was kind of neat watching
that documentary.

977
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,760
Where's where's the members from
Pearl Jam?

978
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920
It's like when that song drop
Hunger Strike, they realized

979
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,640
that Vetter was just as powerful
as Cornell, but just on a

980
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,800
different level.
That's when I realized it for

981
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,960
sure.
That whole album, if you know,

982
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,000
if you guys are into that kind
of music and you never heard the

983
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,920
Temple of the Dog album, that's
another one from beginning to

984
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,040
end that you can just listen to
it over and over and over again.

985
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,360
And fun fact, that album was
recorded in two weeks.

986
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,840
Oh, 10 or no Temple the dog.
Yeah, yeah, 14 days.

987
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,200
The other the.
Other cool thing in there,

988
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800
ripped it out.
The other cool thing about that

989
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,400
documentary, and I maybe can I
may be blending some of the

990
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,640
Mother Love Bone documentary
into this, but they would have

991
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,920
Cornell and Andrew Wood and some
of the other Kurt Cobain.

992
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Who else was in the scene?
Screaming, trees, whatever.

993
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,640
There's another great band.
Right, so there was.

994
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,000
They all hung out.
I nearly lost you.

995
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Right.
Right, that was their big that.

996
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Was a great song, right?
But they all hung out and they

997
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,680
all challenged each other to be
better writers and to be better

998
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,080
musicians.
So there was there was

999
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,800
conversations in this, in this
documentary where Andy would go

1000
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,160
back to his apartment, which I
think he was living with Cornell

1001
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,480
at the time in his own room.
And they, he would work all

1002
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,520
night on his little, you know, 4
track mixer and shit to try to

1003
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,600
one up Cornell.
And then he would record

1004
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,320
whatever he did, give it to
Cornell and Cornell be like,

1005
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,400
holy shit, you did that.
And then Cornell would do the

1006
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,080
same thing and then turn and
give it back to Andrew Woods.

1007
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,720
So it's just dynamic going back
and forth like I'm going to make

1008
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,800
you better because I'm going to
challenge you to write better

1009
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,280
music.
So that example right there for

1010
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,080
the people that are religious
listeners to the show is what I

1011
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,200
mean by when we used to get done
playing at a show and we would

1012
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,400
talk backstage or behind the
venue or whatever with other

1013
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,400
bands or guys that work for
their band.

1014
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,680
Those are the conversations
where we learn stuff.

1015
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,000
You know, it's like, wow, how'd
you do that?

1016
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,880
What piece of equipment are you
using there?

1017
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,960
You know, those are the, I, I
call them productive

1018
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,840
conversations.
I don't know a better way to put

1019
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,360
it.
But, you know, instead of

1020
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,560
talking about things or people
or whatever, we're sure we're

1021
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:36,560
conveying different ideas that
make all of us better.

1022
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,400
You know, it's a it's a friendly
competition, right?

1023
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,040
That's what you just described
was a friendly competition.

1024
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,760
They weren't trying to say I'm
going to make more money or sell

1025
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,840
more records than you.
They were like, wow, that's a

1026
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,280
really cool idea.
Now, how can I make that idea

1027
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,120
better for me, right?
Right, right.

1028
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,000
And yeah, I love that.
Change was in that mix, right

1029
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,880
Alice?
And Change was in that mix, too.

1030
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,640
So imagine, Imagine Lane Staley,
Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell,

1031
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,280
Andrew Wood.
Well Vedder wasn't in there yet,

1032
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,480
he was still in California.
But just imagine walking into a

1033
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,800
bar and seeing those 3 sitting
at the bar talking about music

1034
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800
and shit when they weren't even
relevant in the world yet.

1035
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,080
Right, nobody knew who they
were.

1036
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Like that would just be the
coolest thing ever.

1037
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,040
And you know, you know, there's
people that that lived in that

1038
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,920
era.
If they're still alive, they

1039
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,760
have those amazing stories of of
these three guys and these all

1040
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,200
these bands and how tight they
were.

1041
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,480
And it wasn't, it wasn't like
the the I've always heard, like

1042
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,800
the whiskey row, the, you know,
Rainbow Room, all that kind of

1043
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,320
shit.
The LA scene sure was always,

1044
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,440
you know, like fuck you.
You know, the fights come on,

1045
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,400
the crew is going to beat up
freaking, you know, whatever was

1046
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,080
like, you remember all the the
stupid little drama bullshit

1047
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,840
that would go on that would come
out of out of California and all

1048
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,400
that kind of jazz because
pissing on our territory type

1049
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,440
shit.
Yeah, that's why Metallica left

1050
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,960
and moved to San Francisco when
they got Cliff Burton in the

1051
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,400
band, because they hated that
shit.

1052
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,400
Right, because you all have the
same goal, right?

1053
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,960
Like.
We're musicians.

1054
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,640
It's not a sports competition,
right?

1055
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,520
Nobody's winning and losing.
And you would think you'd want

1056
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,000
to embrace Metallica.
Holy shit this is a brand new

1057
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,680
sound.
I'm going to be their friend.

1058
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Because if they break, they need
an opening act and they're going

1059
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,400
to remember friends more.
They can remember assholes.

1060
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,040
They they succeeded in spite of
everyone else, because they

1061
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,320
would be the first to tell you
that everyone told them they

1062
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,120
were going to fall flat on their
face.

1063
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,240
You're never going to make any
money playing that kind of

1064
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:32,680
music.
That's what they were told all

1065
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,800
the time.
Yeah.

1066
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,320
I don't think they were.
I don't think they cared.

1067
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,680
That wasn't their motivation.
That's why they were successful.

1068
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
And we've discussed them too.
It's it was their sheer

1069
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,400
determination to do things on
their own terms, which is my

1070
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,000
motivation in life too, which is
why they're one of my favorite

1071
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,680
bands.
And that's why you're one of my

1072
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,560
best friends.
It's like, it's not hard to

1073
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,760
figure me out.
If you're driven and you're

1074
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,440
trying to move forward and
you're not, you know, negative

1075
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,680
towards ideas or other people
all the time, I'm probably going

1076
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,440
to be friends with you.
Yeah.

1077
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,320
But that sheer will to succeed
is 100% why they are one of the

1078
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,840
most successful bands on earth.
It wasn't about selling records

1079
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:17,640
or making money.
It was about having a family of

1080
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,600
friends who had the same vision
that they did for the same kind

1081
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,960
of music, right?
Yep.

1082
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Same reason you and I put a band
together.

1083
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,880
We didn't hear the music that we
wanted to hear on the radio, so

1084
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,000
we're going to make it
ourselves.

1085
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,280
That was our motivation as well.
I want to write songs that I

1086
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,080
enjoy playing.
I think Freeman is as relevant

1087
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,920
as alive as far as being
emotional.

1088
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,280
When you always say, you know,
jokingly or I know you're, I'm

1089
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,760
mostly serious.
But when you say you're going to

1090
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,680
let that song play, it's like
you're never going to hurt my

1091
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,120
feelings because that song gives
me the same emotion every time I

1092
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,280
hear.
It's why I know it's a great

1093
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,320
song.
Yeah.

1094
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,720
I've heard it 100,000 times in
my life now and it's it hits me

1095
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,880
the same way every time.
Yeah, agreed.

1096
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,760
I like the.
I like how people react to it

1097
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,000
too.
Me too, because it's fun for us

1098
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,080
to be able to see them react to
it for the first time, right?

1099
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,680
And then we say, oh, that's us.
Meant a lot of times we're like

1100
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,440
what?
Really.

1101
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,320
Really.
Like Joseph was cool.

1102
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,720
It's like, wow, really?
So that's the most fun is to see

1103
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,080
Lemoyne react to it because he's
a musician.

1104
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,400
To see Joseph react to it, he's
a musician.

1105
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Josey, you know, these guys,
they appreciate, they either

1106
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,480
appreciate music on the same
level we do, or they're

1107
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,920
musicians themselves.
So I agree, man, that's really

1108
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,000
cool.
It is.

1109
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,320
It is.
It's fun too.

1110
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,520
That's one we're going to redo
and Polish up and present to the

1111
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,360
world in the right format.
Yes, yes, because now we know

1112
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,920
how to get on Apple because of
the Carla, Kyle, Kyle Carl, the

1113
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,520
the pilot agent Carl Ferrera,
who got us in the I told him he

1114
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,280
got us in the Malaysia.
He was like, no way.

1115
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,800
True story, Carl.
Thank you very much.

1116
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,560
We appreciate it. 21 countries
now, ladies and gentlemen.

1117
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,160
He was like, woo Hoo, It was
fun.

1118
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,320
It was fun and why why we're on
the subject.

1119
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,520
So when you come on a podcast,
just be aware of boys and girls.

1120
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,760
It's we're broadcasting you 21
countries and you're on YouTube

1121
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,120
as we record this.
So that means anybody in the

1122
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,240
world can jump in and see your
episode.

1123
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,000
We we've had and they do, just
so you know, we're not just

1124
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,920
saying that like one person
listen to us in these countries,

1125
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Sweden or not Sweden, Austria is
almost 5% of our listenership.

1126
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,400
So they actually listen to the
show.

1127
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,720
It's awesome.
Absolutely.

1128
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,160
It's awesome, yeah.
Austria.

1129
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,600
Who would have thought?
Yeah, That is a port.

1130
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,920
That is an important public
service announcement.

1131
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,440
We are live on YouTube.
When you come on here, we are in

1132
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,960
21 countries.
We're in about 2/3 of the states

1133
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,920
now, 60 some percent.
And inside those states we're

1134
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,040
in, you know, either 10s or
hundreds of cities.

1135
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,080
Right.
We won't say why we say that,

1136
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,720
but you got to know that when
you come on here.

1137
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,760
I'm going to pause for station
authentication.

1138
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,960
I'll be right back.
Keep the listeners.

1139
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Engaged.
We are pausing for a station

1140
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,400
identification.
This is the Chris and Mike show.

1141
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,280
We are live on YouTube right
now, so we welcome all of you

1142
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,240
and we are live on Twitch and I
think that's it.

1143
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,480
YouTube and Twitch right now.
You can keep in touch with us on

1144
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,040
the Instagram.
If you haven't subscribed on

1145
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,480
YouTube or Instagram or
Facebook, definitely go out and

1146
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,240
do that.
Drop us a comment.

1147
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Let us know what you like about
it or don't like about it.

1148
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,240
And if you would like to be a
guest, you can e-mail us at the

1149
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,080
Chris and Mike, not the you can
e-mail us at

1150
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:45,800
chrisandmikeshow@gmail.com.
chrisandmikeshow@gmail.com.

1151
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,520
And the person who we're waiting
to come back will contact you

1152
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,240
and give you a time and set you
up to be on the show.

1153
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,920
You have to have a dedicated
Wi-Fi.

1154
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:04,280
You can't use a hotspot, and it
probably should be a cable modem

1155
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,600
or higher.
We use a service called

1156
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Riverside dot FM if you want to
go out and check it out.

1157
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,680
Other than that, like Chris
said, just know that you're

1158
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,120
going to be live on YouTube for
pretty much the entire episode.

1159
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,920
And those get uploaded to
YouTube immediate.

1160
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,600
Well, they get uploaded as we're
doing it.

1161
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,800
We had an instance where I don't
think somebody knew that.

1162
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,440
So that's important to get that
out there.

1163
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,000
It gained us a lot of it gained
us a lot of subscribers as we

1164
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,800
started going live.
So it seems like people like

1165
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,600
being there before the episode
comes out.

1166
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,960
So with that said, your live
episode ends up on YouTube and

1167
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,200
then two weeks later the actual
podcast will drop.

1168
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
So I will go in and actually fix
the audio.

1169
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,800
If, you know, say you had some
background noise or you had

1170
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,160
maybe a reverberation in the
background, I can actually bring

1171
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,120
your voice forward so that your
level with us and I'll put the

1172
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,920
music in, you know, layer it
underneath and it'll actually be

1173
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,200
a polished episode in 1080P.
The YouTube episode is the live

1174
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,840
episode is compressed,
obviously, because it's

1175
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,800
uploading at the same time we're
doing it.

1176
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,640
So that's about all on that
front.

1177
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,400
Other than that, we really
appreciate it.

1178
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,600
Everybody that's found us on
YouTube here lately, within the

1179
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,240
last six weeks, we went from I
think 68 subscribers to 2000.

1180
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,160
So that's awesome.
And Spotify, the numbers have

1181
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,240
been increasing.
So we welcome all the people who

1182
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,320
are listening on Spotify and
YouTube.

1183
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,200
And I know there's a lot of
people that listen on Podcast

1184
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,480
Addict and Overcast.
And so wherever Apple podcast,

1185
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,400
wherever you guys listen, we
appreciate it.

1186
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,400
The video portion is on YouTube
and the video portion is on

1187
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,240
Spotify.
I don't think there's video on

1188
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,720
Apple.
I'm I've never listened to us on

1189
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,520
Apple, if I'm being honest with
everybody, but I know for sure

1190
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,800
there's a video on YouTube and
Spotify because I've checked it

1191
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,840
out myself.
The last time I checked Apple,

1192
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,080
it wasn't there.
And I don't think there's video

1193
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,240
on like overcast or podcast
addict.

1194
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,040
That's another big one that
people listen on.

1195
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,840
So if you want to watch the
video, definitely hit up Spotify

1196
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,560
or YouTube.
Hey, look at that.

1197
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,680
Welcome back to Co host.
Yes, this would be tough to do

1198
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,080
by yourself.
I can't wait.

1199
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,680
Everybody going but yeah, you,
you really got to talk like a

1200
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,560
babbling fucking idiot.
Well, that's why when I'm, when

1201
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,120
I'm doing my my real estate guy
moment with the Real Estate Guy

1202
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,200
podcast, when I do it by myself,
it's basically I'm just talking

1203
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,120
about certain snippets of things
like.

1204
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Well, that would be easier
because you're not sitting down

1205
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,440
for like Rogan, you know, he's
sitting down for three hours.

1206
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240
I noticed the couple that he
tried by himself, he didn't make

1207
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,520
it even 2 hours.
And he admitted to everyone

1208
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,560
later on, he's like, I think
somebody asked him about that.

1209
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,840
Do you ever do these by
yourself?

1210
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,200
And he said, you know what, I
tried two of them and they're

1211
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,880
still there and you can go
listen to them.

1212
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,920
But he said people like Bill
Burr that do this by themselves,

1213
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,720
that's an art.
Yeah.

1214
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,920
Basically, I just did a public
service.

1215
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,000
I finished the public service
announcement you had and we went

1216
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,240
on to talk about, you know, like
a lot of people listen on

1217
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,960
Overcast Podcast Addict, I Heart
Apple.

1218
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,720
I wanted people to be aware that
there's no video there, right?

1219
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,680
So if you want to listen to the
video, you have to go to

1220
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,360
Spotify, you have to go to
YouTube.

1221
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,840
People may not know that because
a lot of podcasts I found on

1222
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,520
different platforms and I didn't
know that there was video on

1223
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,640
Spotify.
And obviously, you know, there's

1224
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,480
video on YouTube if you've been,
unless you've been living under

1225
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,560
a rock for the last 15 years,
right?

1226
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:01,280
Exactly.
So get up from anything with

1227
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,200
rock people, get underneath from
rock, rock, rock, rock.

1228
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,080
I don't think Apple supports
video podcast because Brogan's

1229
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,400
his video is not there either.
Oh that's interesting.

1230
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,120
I've checked his out too.
OK, yeah, so you know, we're

1231
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,880
talking about music.
Alter Bridge is dropping a new

1232
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,280
album January 2026.
That's exciting, man.

1233
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,280
Simply called Alter Bridge
sweet.

1234
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,400
The tour is called what lies
beneath.

1235
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,400
Then they're going on the road
with Daughtry and Sevendust and

1236
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,440
of course there's, it's the
weirdest thing about Alter

1237
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Bridge.
They're huge overseas, man.

1238
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,320
They're, I mean, they're huge
like they sold Wimbledon out

1239
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,800
three nights.
Like they're amazingly.

1240
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,480
Europeans appreciate music more
than we do.

1241
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Yeah, because here they just,
they, they just, I mean, again,

1242
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,080
I've seen Alter Bridge twice at
the Marquee Theatre and I mean,

1243
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,040
it's packed.
I mean it's standing room only.

1244
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,120
But that's what, 3000 people?
Yeah, and it's, but it's it's

1245
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,640
it's, it's phenomenal.
I mean, it's just, it's the

1246
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,240
entire Live at Wembley record
they dropped.

1247
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,160
That was the first time I saw
them.

1248
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,440
That was the tour they did in
Arizona.

1249
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,120
And we didn't we like I I was
blown away because it was a 215

1250
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,840
minute show.
Like this is just insane.

1251
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,200
And then Fast forward 18 months,
they drop live at Wembley.

1252
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,680
The entire setlist they played
at Marquee was that show, and

1253
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,400
there's songs they haven't
played since because they're

1254
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,600
just so such rarities.
But they knew they were prepping

1255
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,360
for that, that show.
I would love seeing shows like

1256
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,120
that.
Right.

1257
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,720
But nobody knew it until they
dropped it because they played

1258
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,400
with the London Philharmonic
Orchestra.

1259
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,360
So they kind of, I think
Metallica opened that door

1260
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,440
personally because S because S&M
is by far my favorite collection

1261
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,240
of Metallica music.
Because the first one.

1262
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,360
Right, because it shows you.
It shows you how.

1263
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,800
How powerful.
How powerful it is and and the

1264
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,560
and and whether they knew it or
not when they were writing it,

1265
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,760
how it could be translated into
that.

1266
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,560
Well, I told you that funny
story.

1267
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,360
I'll tell it again real quick.
There's a, a YouTube clip out

1268
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,040
there and I got to find these
things and I'll share them on

1269
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,280
our page.
But James Hetfield is talking to

1270
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,560
the interviewer about Michael
Kamen, who rest in peace.

1271
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,040
He's dead now, but he was the
conductor for the whole S&M

1272
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:22,120
experiment and he came into
their dressing room while they

1273
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,120
were on break one day and he
said this master of Puppets

1274
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
thing, this section right here,
he said.

1275
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,320
It's just fascinating, He said.
You guys go from 4/4 time to

1276
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:37,760
11:30 second time to 6-8 time to
4/4 time back to this 11:30

1277
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,920
second.
He said, did you guys discuss

1278
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,160
this 11:30 second measure right
here?

1279
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,280
And James is like, we didn't
discuss anything about anything

1280
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,000
that you just talked about.
He said we just thought it

1281
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,800
sounded cool, man.
And he said I felt like the

1282
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,800
biggest idiot when I had to say
that, you know, because here's a

1283
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,800
guy who is just like Joseph was,
you know, here's a guy who's

1284
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,760
educated in music, can play
classical music, can write

1285
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,160
music, can notate it, can read
it, you know, has however many

1286
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,840
hundred students a month.
And this is a guy who's into a

1287
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,400
pouring music back out in the
universe like I'll never be able

1288
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,400
to do.
And that was James sitting

1289
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,400
there.
He's like, I'm expected to tell

1290
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,120
this guy how my song is played
and he's an actual conductor.

1291
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,120
And, you know, he said.
I just felt like the biggest

1292
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,040
moron to have to say, oh man, we
just thought it sounded cool

1293
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,440
dude.
Right, right.

1294
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,440
It's yeah, but that's a so so
that because I'm, I'm like most

1295
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,640
people like I liked black, but I
didn't like black.

1296
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,680
I like the older stuff.
I do like some of the newer

1297
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,440
stuff.
I love it all, but but not in a

1298
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,320
hole, right, Because I'm just
that's how I am.

1299
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,400
But I think that opened the door
to that because it's kind of

1300
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,280
like unplugged.
KISS did it after them.

1301
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,320
Right kiss fucking most
overrated.

1302
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,320
Ban them in them in the world.
They got some great songs man.

1303
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,720
They're a marketing machine.
That's it.

1304
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,360
That's that's all I ever think
about.

1305
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,360
KISS marketing.
OK, you're a marketing machine.

1306
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,200
Good job.
And they did.

1307
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,360
They're brilliant, brilliant at
marketing because they sold

1308
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,560
their image before they sold
their music in my eyes anyway.

1309
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,320
And I, I know people are like
the rolling falling off their

1310
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,640
chairs right now if they're
watching this.

1311
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,400
And then when they no.
They didn't break and they'll

1312
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,200
never, they'll never even say
this.

1313
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,640
They didn't break any new ground
musically.

1314
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,960
But those riffs are that they're
etched in stone.

1315
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,880
I mean, there's a reason that
people keep going back to see

1316
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,400
him.
And it's not just because I

1317
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,480
agree with you.
The image had more to do with

1318
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,600
them than anything, and they'll
admit that too.

1319
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,800
Yeah, they will, you know.
But they had no business plan

1320
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,640
with the Symphony.
I tried to listen to that album

1321
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,480
and it just did not.
It did not convey the same way

1322
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,720
that Metallic is dead.
What what the S&M album did for

1323
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,640
me was just solidify how great
of songwriters they were.

1324
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,840
Yeah.
Because another thing they

1325
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,960
talked about in that documentary
was how hard it was to fit the

1326
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,680
orchestra into some of those
pieces because there was already

1327
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,360
so much going on with just three
guys playing or, you know, four

1328
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,240
guys playing instruments.
Almost left James out of the

1329
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,680
mix.
And he's the best rhythm guitar

1330
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,480
player on the planet.
Yeah, which is he doesn't get

1331
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,320
enough credit for that.
No, he is for sure one of the

1332
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,160
best rhythm guitar players ever
walked the earth.

1333
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:21,120
And so is Dave Mistain.
Yeah, Dave Mustaine invented a

1334
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,800
whole new way of playing chords
that allows him to play the way

1335
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,560
he plays.
So when you're an innovator that

1336
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,720
people follow from that point
forward, which everybody did

1337
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,439
right, you can't.
You just can't ever take that

1338
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,920
away from somebody.
No, no.

1339
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,240
And imagine the different how
different metallic would be if

1340
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,279
Dave Mustaine stayed in the
band.

1341
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,520
I don't think it would have been
his big I really have.

1342
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:50,040
Something happened because he's
too much of a perfectionist and

1343
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,479
I don't think he would have been
able to survive with Lars in the

1344
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,000
band.
That's true.

1345
01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:00,520
Lars is what do they call that?
Lars is a double edged sword is

1346
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,200
the best analogy I can come up
with.

1347
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:04,279
He is not the greatest drummer
on the planet.

1348
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,840
He plays by feel right.
Yeah, yeah.

1349
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:12,479
But the fact that he plays by
feel is what made Metallica one

1350
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,800
of the biggest bands on the
planet, whether people know it

1351
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,560
or not, right?
It's that little bit of

1352
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,160
difference.
Just like, you know, everybody

1353
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:24,040
says that ACDC has written the
same album, you know, 13 times

1354
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,399
or whatever. 10 times and Angus
said 11.

1355
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,560
Yeah, Angus got Yeah, You've
made the same album 10 times.

1356
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,840
No, actually, that's a lie,
because we've made the same bomb

1357
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,479
11 times.
Exactly.

1358
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,240
But it's that feel, you know,
that swing beat.

1359
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:43,800
Lars has that swing to his beat
that just sucks people in.

1360
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,880
It's an innate ability that you
just can't teach somebody.

1361
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,720
You can tell them how it's done,
but some drummers will never

1362
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,480
have the ability to get off that
metronome.

1363
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,360
You know where it's just I
called typewriter rock.

1364
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,520
Charlie Watts.
Rolling Stones.

1365
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,360
Charlie drugged the beat too,
though he had Swank.

1366
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,120
Right, but he's still.
But he was the one that kept

1367
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,560
them all in time.
Sure, that's why they called him

1368
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,720
metronome, because he didn't
waver from that shit.

1369
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,520
No, but he still played a swing
beat, which is why The Rolling

1370
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,840
Stones had that, you know, suck
you in feel kind of to their

1371
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,520
songs.
I know what you're saying

1372
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,600
though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1373
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,280
He just wouldn't allow the world
to to, you know?

1374
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,360
My personal opinion is Metallica
would not have been a as big of

1375
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,480
a band if Dave Mustaine would
have stayed the lead guitar

1376
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:36,560
player.
I just don't think they would

1377
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,560
have.
Gotcha.

1378
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,600
And we wouldn't had Megadeth.
And I'm as equally a big a fan

1379
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,240
of Megadeth for different
reasons than I am Metallica, you

1380
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,880
know?
So I never really gotten a

1381
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,480
Megadeth.
I got a couple songs, but I

1382
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:55,640
just, you know, to me, Mustaine
is not a strong enough lyricist

1383
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:02,680
slash presence that I just, you
know, I just I just couldn't get

1384
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,440
into that.
Like Peace Sells was a cool.

1385
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:07,280
Song.
See, now there's a great

1386
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,360
statement.
Yeah, but but for the most part,

1387
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,000
I just, I couldn't get into
Megadeth at all.

1388
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,600
I thought they were.
I thought it was too much of A

1389
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,160
Metallica RIP off.
Well, now you know why Metallica

1390
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,600
is one of the biggest selling
bands in the world and Megadeth

1391
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,440
is maybe sold a third of those
records because there's a lot of

1392
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:28,240
people that have that attitude
and it's not wrong, you know,

1393
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,680
people's opinion of music is
their own.

1394
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,680
It's not for me to say whether
you're right or wrong because

1395
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,720
it's how you interpret it,
right?

1396
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,840
You and I have always are going
to approach music from a

1397
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,440
different angle, right?
I'm coming in at 180° from you

1398
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,000
all the time.
I'm listening to the music first

1399
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,440
and the lyrics second.
Which is why, you know, back in

1400
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:53,800
the day when I'd be listening to
certain music, either your

1401
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,080
parents or you know, some kind
of authority figure in your life

1402
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,760
would hear you listening to the
things and say, wow, that

1403
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,560
person's going to be affected by
that.

1404
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,960
And in most cases I wouldn't
because I even know what the

1405
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,680
fuck they were saying.
I just like the music.

1406
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,920
Exactly right?
I might know 3 lyrics in the

1407
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,520
whole song, the ones that
everybody knows.

1408
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,360
The rest of it I'm jamming along
to the guitar and the drum beat

1409
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,640
and hey, that's a cool rhythm,
you know, let me see what I can

1410
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,440
do with that.
I really didn't appreciate

1411
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,240
lyrics until I met you.
Oh, thank you.

1412
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,200
That's true story for sure.
I.

1413
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,280
Believe you, once you and I
started writing our own songs

1414
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,480
and I saw the passion that you
had for what was on that page in

1415
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:36,840
front of you before.
It's just a notebook front

1416
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,320
sitting in front of somebody,
right?

1417
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:41,080
Right, right.
And if you're not you, you don't

1418
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,800
understand that that notebook is
your soul on a piece of paper,

1419
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,040
right?
That's what you taught me was

1420
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,800
sitting there on the couch and
what, in the apartment or

1421
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,880
whatever, just, you know,
songwriting and hashing things

1422
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:58,160
out on an acoustic or whatever.
Those moments to me showed me

1423
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,000
what that piece of paper meant
to you as a person.

1424
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,840
You know, it's like this is my
soul on a on a page.

1425
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,040
Yeah, no different than that
piece of music is that for me.

1426
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,200
Right.
Which is why we gelled, which is

1427
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,880
why we matched.
Because my soul, your soul.

1428
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:14,600
But you know, together you get
free man.

1429
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Oh, it worked.
Yeah, on an unprecedented level,

1430
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,080
it worked.
Yeah, that's why we got to get

1431
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,480
that shit back out of the world.
Now the world needs Nemesis 2

1432
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:26,120
point O.
That one for sure.

1433
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:29,360
Yeah, Vision Jink, show me a
pop.

1434
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,440
I would love to pull off
Intervention Divine, but I

1435
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:33,520
don't.
I don't know if that's possible

1436
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,960
without Scott.
Anything possible?

1437
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,040
I What's to stop the world?
I love that song Window.

1438
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,080
Hell, that's a good song.
That guy that I told you I

1439
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,360
wanted to have on Gary Romero,
Yeah.

1440
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,360
He's one of the best drummers
I've ever met.

1441
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,920
So we could probably coax him
into you.

1442
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,320
He has a home studio, so he
could record things and send

1443
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,600
them to us digitally.
I'm sure he'd be down for that

1444
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,600
if he can squeeze in some time.
So we do have a drummer.

1445
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,320
I forgot about him.
Right on.

1446
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,720
I have I've poked out, I've
poked at some.

1447
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,200
We have some positions coming up
in, in September, October or

1448
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:13,120
August, September, but there's,
there's there's some gaps still

1449
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,240
that I got to fill.
It's weird how we went crazy,

1450
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,760
right?
Like YouTube went nuts and then

1451
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,960
now it just kind of got quiet.
So we did.

1452
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,440
We something happened.
I think you fall into

1453
01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,360
algorithms.
Probably.

1454
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,160
Because when YouTube kind of
trailed off, Spotify picked up a

1455
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,640
little bit.
We, we don't have nearly as many

1456
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:38,040
subscribers on Spotify, but, but
sometimes we'll go long periods

1457
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,640
of time and never pick up a
subscriber on Spotify.

1458
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,160
And in the last 30 days, I think
we picked up 11, so.

1459
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,600
That's cool.
That was another thing we talked

1460
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,760
about while you're gone.
I was welcoming all the new

1461
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,240
YouTube subscribers because what
Chris just described as a true

1462
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,400
story, and I talked about it
while he was gone with a month

1463
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,160
ago we had what, 68 subscribers?
64, and now we have just shy of

1464
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,920
2000.
So yeah, welcome to everybody

1465
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,960
that has jumped on for the ride.
And then those of you that have

1466
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,920
jumped on for the ride that have
to be listening to this episode

1467
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,360
on on YouTube, just go ahead.
And we need 10 more people to

1468
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,680
get to 2000.
Well, we don't know where it

1469
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,800
1990 something.
It might be 9, we might just

1470
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,200
need one.
We don't know.

1471
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,800
It doesn't show us that last
digit.

1472
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,080
Damn it, it doesn't.
It probably does you because

1473
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,840
you're the page owner.
It doesn't show us, it just says

1474
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,280
1990.
Let's go to the YouTube man

1475
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,680
going to the YouTube right now,
boys or girls which were live on

1476
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,360
YouTube.
By the way, we are 21 countries,

1477
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,440
21 countries come to 21
countries.

1478
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:42,600
Let's go to our channel view
channel.

1479
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,560
Now that we're in Malaysia, we
have literally circumnavigated

1480
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,880
the globe.
A circumnavigated big word

1481
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:55,880
because Malaysia is over there
on the other side of China. 1999

1482
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,080
subscribers.
Are you serious?

1483
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:04,560
We need one more person. 147,937
Views of 466 videos.

1484
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,920
Which is absolutely amazing.
Thank you everyone.

1485
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,880
You're making our vision of
having this be a place that

1486
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,440
people meet and learn about
different ideas come to life.

1487
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:20,360
So that's outstanding.
And what's really cool is Mike's

1488
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,640
going to take some time off in
August and he's going to, we're

1489
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,280
going to build the, we're going
to build the website we are.

1490
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,600
And all the stuff is going to be
on the website and more.

1491
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,400
So what's what's cool about the
live?

1492
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,920
Because I'm on the page now we
have the testing 1 which we did

1493
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,880
a month ago at 3 views.
Thank you.

1494
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,640
I was one of those people.
But today's show marks our 20th

1495
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,640
show being streamed live, which
is cool.

1496
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,960
This is #20.
This is #20 the stream live,

1497
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,360
yeah.
That's awesome.

1498
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,360
Yeah.
Gone live to the YouTube 20

1499
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:56,680
times.
Right.

1500
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,680
And you know, our shorts, for
those of you don't know the

1501
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,320
reason why you want to subscribe
to our channel is that we have,

1502
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,280
we have shorts that drop every
day and the shorts are

1503
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,840
different.
They're never the same, but

1504
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,000
they're from different,
different episodes that we've

1505
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,640
that we've done.
So your ability to kind of to

1506
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:22,800
kind of get a feel for different
topics as as they as they come

1507
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,200
across is pretty neat.
So yeah, you do a good job of

1508
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,400
giving a mix from and I'll I'll
reinforce that you definitely

1509
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,400
want to subscribe to YouTube,
even if you're a Spotify or

1510
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,720
Apple podcast listener for the
simple fact that Chris does a

1511
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,080
great job of digging back in the
archive and showing you examples

1512
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,400
of shows you may have missed
that you might say, hey, I want

1513
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,640
to learn about peptides.
I didn't know that that Brian

1514
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,480
Morris episode was about
peptides.

1515
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:50,640
So now I want to do that.
I really, I like it for myself.

1516
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,400
That's why I like all your reels
that you drop because there's

1517
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:55,840
things I forget about too, you
know?

1518
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,720
And I was sitting here like, oh
wow, I.

1519
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,320
Missed that.
And yeah, and we're my the reels

1520
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,640
are booked out all the way.
We have three wheels, 3 shorts.

1521
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:08,200
I'm sorry, we have three shorts
that drop a day and they go to

1522
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:13,320
August 12th.
I'm sorry, August 1st and that

1523
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,640
hasn't I haven't done it for the
last two or three shows and

1524
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,800
there's still some other shorts
and then that'll get get set up

1525
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,600
as well.
So it's kind of cool that that

1526
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,920
the stuff I'm looking at that's
coming, that's coming up.

1527
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,520
It's we have stuff on there from
from Jake Johnson, the badass

1528
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,640
boxer, but it's super cool,
cool, mellow human.

1529
01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:37,760
We have someone who's been
kidnapped that's coming up,

1530
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,120
conversation with Mark Jeffrey
from iheart about random things.

1531
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,760
Well, I didn't think about it
until I was talking to one of

1532
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,160
our guests.
It wasn't Yuri, but it it was

1533
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,400
somebody before.
Then you took a break and you're

1534
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,600
like, I'll be right back.
You guys talk and we were

1535
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,120
talking about the shorts and I
said it didn't hit me until he

1536
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,040
started posting all these on
YouTube and I went back and

1537
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,960
looked.
We average.

1538
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,200
I said, let's just say we
averaged 10 shorts a show, which

1539
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,880
is about average.
We usually do 10 to 13.

1540
01:19:12,440 --> 01:19:17,480
We've done 120 shows now.
That's 1200 shorts minimum that

1541
01:19:17,480 --> 01:19:21,320
we have sitting in our archive,
just to give people an example

1542
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,400
of what kind of catalog we've
developed over the last, what,

1543
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,800
18 months?
Right.

1544
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,120
And what's crazy is I wasn't
dropping those shorts until

1545
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,000
March, right?
So if I is, if there's a way to

1546
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,440
go back into into Riverside?
So coming up in September is

1547
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:42,040
going to be our renewal, OK?
And I'm going to put us on the

1548
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,680
pro plan so that we don't have
to have things archived.

1549
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,600
They'll just be there whenever
you want to use them.

1550
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,400
Cool.
Yeah, because I still have, I'm

1551
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,760
looking at probably wow.
There's.

1552
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,480
Oh wow, wow.
Yeah, see, they just keep

1553
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:58,560
multiplying.
I got a lot of I'm just on

1554
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,040
YouTube that I haven't set up
yet.

1555
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,400
I have I have drafts, man, like
I did the truck drivers TikTok

1556
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,160
tragedy.
Is it is it still under draft?

1557
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,360
So I really can go in here and
and set up another Wow, there's

1558
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,840
another hole.
Mama Kay's secret spaghetti is a

1559
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,320
is a reel that has yet to drop.
Sweet Jeff Bezos space mishap.

1560
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,200
Like when, whenever I think I'm
caught up, it's like, oh shit,

1561
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,400
you're not caught up, Chris.
Tell me about it.

1562
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,040
That's why I panicked when you
told me I didn't do those.

1563
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,400
That one episode.
I'm like, I can't be that far

1564
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,080
behind.
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, man.

1565
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,960
I panicked.
It's all good.

1566
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,800
I mean, that's the but was the
benefit though, because when I

1567
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,000
went on, when I, when I went on
vacation, then I was gone for

1568
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,000
seven days.
We we we we dropped like 4 shows

1569
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,000
in a row, scheduled them out.
Yeah, so that's one thing that I

1570
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,640
should have talked about when I
was doing the public service

1571
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:56,960
announcement while you were
gone.

1572
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,840
So we'll talk about it now.
That's the reason, when you come

1573
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,640
on, if you're a guest, that your
show doesn't drop for two weeks

1574
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,000
because we have to have a week
buffer in there so that him and

1575
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,080
I can take a vacation.
We have lives too.

1576
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,440
We have to be able to go out and
live so we can bring you more

1577
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:15,120
content.
That's why it takes two weeks to

1578
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,320
drop your show.
Right.

1579
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,560
It's, you know, sometimes I have
to rub my tire tread on a car,

1580
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,760
you know, that's content.
Sometimes I got to ask a, a, a,

1581
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,600
a a working man to move his
vehicle and just have him stare

1582
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,760
at me.
You know what's funny too?

1583
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,720
When I left right, I drove
around the pumps and then came

1584
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,400
up to the side to the window
where he was sitting still

1585
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,480
sitting there, rolled my passion
side window down and just I

1586
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,320
don't know for a minute just
looked in.

1587
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,240
He never moved his head.
He just the entire time, the

1588
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,560
silhouette and you and you can't
tell me you couldn't feel my

1589
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,600
presence of.
Course you can.

1590
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,720
It's.
But that's another thing that's

1591
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,120
been scientifically proven.
The stupid things that I know in

1592
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,400
my head over 60% of the time
when they perform those

1593
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,240
experiments, can someone tell if
someone else is looking at them?

1594
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:06,400
Yeah, it was like right at 60%
accuracy.

1595
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:08,200
Yeah, you can tell when
someone's looking at you.

1596
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,120
Yeah, or you can at least feel
it.

1597
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,040
You can feel the.
Presence.

1598
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,480
That was their point, right?
Yeah, you can feel it.

1599
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,280
Right.
But just, yeah, such a Dick

1600
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,760
move.
And it really it, it wouldn't

1601
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,680
have cost him any time except
for 5 minutes.

1602
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,800
And, and just really, you know,
I just, I don't know, don't be

1603
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,800
that human, man.
If somebody asked you to do

1604
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,760
something and, and, and
literally you can pick up what

1605
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,640
you're doing without affecting
your life for two minutes and

1606
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,440
make that change.
Because really, I could have let

1607
01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:39,520
that too.
I could have let that totally

1608
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,560
affect the outcome of my day
because the guy was a total

1609
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,200
piece of shit.
Well, here's what I'll add to

1610
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,760
that if someone makes a
reasonable request like Chris

1611
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,840
did of this person.
He wasn't a Dick at first,

1612
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,400
right?
No, nor would I have been.

1613
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,440
I always start off trying to be
the nice guy.

1614
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,600
Give me a logical explanation as
to why you can't fulfill my

1615
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,160
request and I'll listen, right?
But you can't just sit there

1616
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,800
like a fucking bump on a log and
pretend that I'm not there or

1617
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,840
that I wasn't talking.
That's rude.

1618
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,200
Disrespectful.
Right.

1619
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,760
And and and I'm the furthest
person from racist in the world,

1620
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,000
as is Mike. 100%.
I'm learning to speak Spanish

1621
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,040
because when I go to countries
where they speak Spanish, I want

1622
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,080
to be able to speak Spanish.
That's their language.

1623
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,040
I respect that if, if, if Nikki
and I, we're going to go to

1624
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Italy at some point in time.
So I will go on Duolingo and I

1625
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,680
will Start learning Italian
because it, to me it's a respect

1626
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,920
thing.
I'm going into your country,

1627
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,160
Mexico.
So I should have the respect

1628
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:40,480
enough of me of a human being to
and to respect your your primary

1629
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,520
language.
On a basic level.

1630
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,000
For sure, right, right, just and
for for nothing less than just

1631
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,800
to to be able to minimally
communicate.

1632
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,520
I mean like legit I, I
conversational Spanish I can

1633
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,440
pull off just because of
Duolingo and and my foundation

1634
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,600
from high school with Miss
Alonzo's Spanish class, right?

1635
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,360
She would never let us speak
English in class once we walk in

1636
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,720
the door.
We had to speak Spanish, right?

1637
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,800
It was, and it was so
frustrating.

1638
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,200
But it, I mean, it's, it is
Espanol Miguel, right?

1639
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:09,600
I was Santiago, I was Paco.
I was Paco.

1640
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,440
You were Paco.
I was Paco, you know?

1641
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,800
I I was Paco, you know I was
Paco, man.

1642
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,760
You remember the movie Bad Boys
with Sean Penn and East Side

1643
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,320
Morales?
Oh yeah.

1644
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,160
That's a great movie.
The chicago-based movie, the

1645
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,480
opening scene.
I'm going to paint the picture

1646
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:24,960
opening scene.
It's like one of the opening

1647
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,520
scene.
It's it's within the 1st 10

1648
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,920
minutes.
Sean Penn and and oh fuck me,

1649
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,680
the dude, his partner on the in
the in the movie, the beginning

1650
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,240
of the movie was a dude that
played Cameron in Ferris

1651
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,920
Bueller's Day Off.
You see him?

1652
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:40,880
Yeah, I don't remember that guy.
I.

1653
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,560
Don't remember his name here I.
Don't know who you're talking

1654
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,840
about though.
Yeah, so they're driving in this

1655
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,600
like beat up Oldsmobile, flying
through Chicago streets, Billy

1656
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:52,920
Squires songs on what the fuck
It was song was in the dark.

1657
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,680
Great song.
It it fit perfectly with the

1658
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,720
scene, like perfectly with the
scene.

1659
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,800
And then they were robbed these
drug they were robbing these

1660
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,200
drug dealers in chaos ensued.
And that's kind of took down the

1661
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,960
whole bad, bad boy path of, of
juvenile facility in Illinois,

1662
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:13,560
you know, But that's so his so,
so Isa Morales's name in the

1663
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,640
movie was Paco.
And I liked the movie.

1664
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,000
And I was like, oh, what's your
name Chris?

1665
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,080
Oh, it'd be Paco.
And she's like, no, no crystal

1666
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,000
ball.
No Paco.

1667
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,680
Me Miyama Paco.
You know, I had to be Santiago.

1668
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,880
Why?
Because some other Dick in my

1669
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,880
class got to be Miguel, because
apparently he had a better last

1670
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,680
name or some shit.
You know, that's funny.

1671
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,960
He's, I'm not going to call him
out, but he's already.

1672
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,720
Miguel Yeah, OK, I'll be
Santiago.

1673
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,040
Yeah, that's, you know, one of
my friends.

1674
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,760
Not one of my first lessons, but
right up there in one of my

1675
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,600
first lessons in that sometimes
it's just better off to take the

1676
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,480
discretion is the better part of
valor, right?

1677
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,160
Right.
Yeah.

1678
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,760
Wasn't a battle I was willing to
fight, but it still pissed me

1679
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,200
off.
No, yeah, I can see that.

1680
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,600
Well, because it's your name,
you know.

1681
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,320
Yeah, I want to be Miguel.
Yeah, fucking.

1682
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:09,600
Better than me.
I was listening to Sirius.

1683
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,360
I don't know, I've been
listening to spa music when I

1684
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,680
drive, but I was listening to
something and they were doing

1685
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,360
like a a top something list,
like top ten song music movie

1686
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,160
songs that that captured the
moment.

1687
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,360
And you and I have talked about
this, which is why this stuck in

1688
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,760
my head.
The movie The Warriors, the end

1689
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,920
of it, when they're coming over
the mountain, was not really a

1690
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,520
mountain.
Come over the hill and then they

1691
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,560
hit the beach.
And more like a dune, right?

1692
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,440
Right, and the dune and and then
the first note of in the city

1693
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:42,400
hits and then just in the the
camera pans out and you know,

1694
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,680
you get the right just you feel
it and you get tangles because

1695
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,000
it's it's the fucking DJ on
SiriusXM said the IT described

1696
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,000
the exact same scene before that
song played.

1697
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:58,880
And I'm like, finally somebody
else recognizes the power of

1698
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,960
music on a level like that that
because when I hear in the city,

1699
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,880
I automatically think the
Warriors, right?

1700
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,080
You know, I've had that
conversation with so many

1701
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,960
people, and you just see that
light bulb go off over their

1702
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,920
head.
I ask one simple question.

1703
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,640
Imagine TV or movies with no
music.

1704
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,440
Yeah.
Yeah.

1705
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,200
And they're like, man, I never
thought about that.

1706
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,960
Yeah, it would suck.
You imagine Superman flying

1707
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,080
without Superman music.
He's just flying with a Cape in

1708
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:30,280
the air.
You know what the hell are we

1709
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,760
watching?
It's just a man of dude flying

1710
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:40,000
in the sky.
But when you're here, that was

1711
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:40,760
Star Wars.
But.

1712
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,840
But you know it but same.
Thing though, yeah, imagine Star

1713
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,800
Wars without that song.
Imagine Darth Vader coming

1714
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,120
through the the the door with
with nothing, just walking, just

1715
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,720
walking.
It's so you've seen the stuff

1716
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,320
where they can isolate vocals,
right?

1717
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,840
They can take the music out of
the vocals like they did Ozzy's

1718
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,440
Mama.
I'm coming home with his final

1719
01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:01,600
show, which I thought was like
bullshit, like leave the man

1720
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,760
alone.
But you think they could be able

1721
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,280
to isolate, take the music out
of a movie scene and just see.

1722
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,080
Oh, I'm sure they can.
The the how, how, how

1723
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,280
dramatically effects it.
I to be honest with you, I think

1724
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,440
this popped into my head because
I swear on one of my rabbit

1725
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:23,400
holes they did it with a sitcom
and it was The Big Bang Theory

1726
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,120
in particular, if I remember
without the laugh track, how

1727
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:32,480
stupid that show really is and
they suck you into and I like

1728
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:35,160
The Big Bang Theory.
I'm not, I'm as guilty of being

1729
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,640
sucked into it as anybody else,
but man, when you watch it

1730
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,800
without that little laugh track
and the music in the background,

1731
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,720
it is, it's just kind of like,
why is that funny, you know?

1732
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,160
Well, yeah.
Well, Seinfeld had a laugh

1733
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,840
track.
Yeah, of course it did.

1734
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,600
And that would be a lot of those
would be equally as stupid

1735
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,760
without the most of theirs was
comedic timing though.

1736
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,480
Right.
The office had no laugh track.

1737
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,680
The office wasn't filmed live.
There was no.

1738
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,080
The Office is the same way as
Seinfeld.

1739
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,120
The comedic timing is what makes
it.

1740
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:07,680
You know, it's, it's how Michael
says it.

1741
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,000
It's when he says it, it's like
flexion in his voice.

1742
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,640
You can't.
That's another thing you can't

1743
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:13,720
teach, right?
Right.

1744
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,760
But but what I'm saying is the
office, there is no laugh track,

1745
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,800
there's no live studio audits.
It's just we have these cameras.

1746
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,800
It's kind of like Parks and Rec.
We have these cameras.

1747
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,640
It's supposed to be they're
following us around like a.

1748
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:31,880
Documentary scrubs, so check
that out the the people who

1749
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,040
created scrubs, parks and rec,
the office and and St.

1750
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:40,600
Dennis, which is AI think a
Netflix show all the same, all

1751
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,840
the same guys and the whole
concept is it's a documentary.

1752
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,200
There's no laugh tracks, there's
no live story audience.

1753
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,760
It's just you're feeling great
writers.

1754
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,800
They do right and you relying on
the on the actors to fill the

1755
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,960
the gap of no laugh track and no
studio.

1756
01:29:55,960 --> 01:30:01,120
These characters that are when
you say Dwight Schrute, you know

1757
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,040
that character, right?
When you say Pam, everybody, you

1758
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,280
know, fell in love with Pam as
the secretary.

1759
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,960
When you say Michael, you know,
the goofy office manager guy who

1760
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,880
doesn't really have a clue, and
it's his team that supports him.

1761
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:18,080
And it's not an accident that
you and I, as fans automatically

1762
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,720
know each character.
That just tells you how great

1763
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:22,920
is.
Same thing with the song that

1764
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,080
you get stuck in your head.
Yeah, yeah.

1765
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,400
That just proves the artist had
the right vision of conveying

1766
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,400
their message because it got
stuck in your head.

1767
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,160
And see that that goes back to
development, right?

1768
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,880
Like labels, there's no labels
anymore to develop those bands,

1769
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,560
to develop those artists, to get
them to the level where

1770
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,360
Metallicas are AT and the Pearl
Jams are AT.

1771
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,600
And they just, they don't back
them anymore.

1772
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,600
And then it's the same thing
with with TV, right?

1773
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,560
Because the mayor's America's
attention span is so small.

1774
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,800
Sitcoms were the same way.
They used to give them

1775
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:58,600
development deals and you would
have a season or maybe a half a

1776
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,880
season to try and gain some
traction.

1777
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,040
They'd give you 9 episodes and
if that did well then they would

1778
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,840
pick it up for the back end is
what they call it.

1779
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,320
You'd get the other 12 episodes
or whatever it was for that

1780
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,160
year.
Right, like the Office?

1781
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,640
Yeah, The Office pulled off of
the English version of The

1782
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,760
Office and their first season
was only 9 episodes.

1783
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,160
Right, that was that's usually
the standard development deal is

1784
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,240
9 episodes.
I think Seinfeld's first season

1785
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,520
was 5, five or seven or six.
Yeah, it was.

1786
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,240
Yeah, it was small.
And the first season of Seinfeld

1787
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,720
sucked.
Like I just.

1788
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,240
Did going back and watching it I
never watched the first season

1789
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,400
anymore.
Yeah, no, I don't.

1790
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,520
I don't watch the first or
second because they just suck.

1791
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,960
It's just so bad because they're
developing it.

1792
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,440
They're they're finding their
class.

1793
01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:42,520
I thought I hated Seinfeld when
you and I were in Nemesis in the

1794
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,080
90s.
I'm like, that show sucks.

1795
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,080
Well, that's because we were
there in the beginning and it

1796
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,920
kind of did.
Yeah, yeah, Cheers sucked for

1797
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,160
the first couple years, man,
because absolutely, you're

1798
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,440
building things up.
Cheers wasn't Cheers until

1799
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:56,320
probably the fifth or sixth
season where it finally got its

1800
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,200
its roots planted and you had
all the characters developed and

1801
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,440
it was the Thursday night thing
and all of a sudden it was, you

1802
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,400
know, Cheers and ER and whatever
else was on.

1803
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,520
It's being invested in those
characters.

1804
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,560
One of the funniest stories that
I tell is when I was living with

1805
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,880
Kevin and it was me, Kevin and
Nick.

1806
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,400
And on Wednesday night, you
know, three of the manliest men,

1807
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,160
you know, like women smoking,
smoking pot, going out drinking,

1808
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,200
having a good time.
Wednesday night we had all these

1809
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,880
people come over and it's like
everybody shut up. 9 O2 one I

1810
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,600
was on right?
Right.

1811
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,680
Shut the fuck up because we
can't see this again, right?

1812
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,800
You know?
Nine O 2 and followed by Melrose

1813
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,760
Place.
Oh yeah, and that was the same

1814
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,520
thing.
Shows on, shows on.

1815
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,000
So here's all these macho guys
sitting around and he, Kevin had

1816
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,840
one friend who was a female that
would come over, but that was

1817
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,120
it.
There was like 7 guys in Sookie

1818
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,320
sitting there and shut up shows
on.

1819
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,880
Yep, I remember that.
I remember the funny.

1820
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,880
Because we were invested in the
storyline and the characters.

1821
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,120
I know 21-O sucked in the
beginning too.

1822
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:01,400
Yep, Yep, it did.
But you just hit the nail on the

1823
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,320
head.
There's no, you know, there's no

1824
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:08,480
time to develop that kind of
we're doing it organically here,

1825
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:12,080
but we had to foot we're our own
producer and production company.

1826
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,920
So sure.
And it still took that time that

1827
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,160
you just described to develop
some traction.

1828
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,440
We went along with 100 people
watching us forever.

1829
01:33:21,480 --> 01:33:22,520
Right.
And that's the thing too, like

1830
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,080
when people on the podcast
platforms run on Facebook, when

1831
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,560
people will post stuff on there
and you probably see me respond,

1832
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:32,160
yeah, oh, just passed 100,000
subscribers and this many views.

1833
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,720
And so my comment is always, did
you do it organically or did you

1834
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,400
pay for it?
Or if you go and look, sometimes

1835
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,280
they've been doing it since
2006, right?

1836
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,320
Right.
So yeah, in 20 years you got

1837
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,360
100,000 subscribers.
Right.

1838
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,600
But the ones that don't answer
are the ones that pay, right?

1839
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,880
And to me, that's a fact, right?
And to me, if you pay for

1840
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,920
followers and pay for
subscribers, they're they're,

1841
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,280
they're not organic, they're not
real, they're bots.

1842
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,600
It's because we get hit up all
the time and I tell them all

1843
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,880
like, you know, go fly a kite,
go find somebody else, go play

1844
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,040
in somebody else's sandbox.
Because I don't we don't want to

1845
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,160
develop it that way.
I like the guy that you said.

1846
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,320
You pay us and then if we get
the results that you desire,

1847
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,880
we'll give you your money back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1848
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,400
And he's like, what?
And I was like, wasn't that the?

1849
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,000
Best one ever dude.
Wasn't that clear?

1850
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,320
Like you give me money and then
you do the work and if I see the

1851
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,120
result, 'cause I I said that, I
laughed.

1852
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,640
So hard when I read that I'm
like I love you.

1853
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,640
Just because I want real
authentic followers.

1854
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:33,800
Because I know.
Me too.

1855
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,840
When, when, when I first started
doing Instagram, when Instagram

1856
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,200
wasn't really a thing yet with
with real estate stuff.

1857
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,080
I could hit up all the time with
that stuff.

1858
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,080
Oh, you know, 5000 followers by
the end of the day.

1859
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,080
I was like, well, but are they
going to be real followers?

1860
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:48,160
Well, it's just numbers.
Well, no, I don't.

1861
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,520
I don't want bullshit.
Because then the bullshit ones,

1862
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,600
they fall off, right?
They disappear, you know, how

1863
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,800
many days later or how many
weeks later than those those

1864
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,560
profiles were fake.
So then they're gone and then

1865
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,280
all of a sudden you don't.
It's kind of like Facebook.

1866
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:02,600
Every now and then you're going
to Facebook, right?

1867
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,840
And I'll go and clean up my
friends list because some of the

1868
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,080
profiles end up having the
pictures gone because they were

1869
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,640
bogus to begin with.
Well, you know how much of A

1870
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,640
nerd I am, and I have to know
the real answer to whatever

1871
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,600
question somebody's asking or
the one I'm asking of myself.

1872
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,280
And I asked the same question of
myself about, OK, if I pay for

1873
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,760
these subscribers, what's going
to happen?

1874
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,720
And if you watch enough of those
YouTube videos of these people

1875
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,840
that have millions of
subscribers or hundreds of

1876
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,920
thousands, they will tell you
that the mistake they made was

1877
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,280
doing what you just said.
Because if you have too many

1878
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:40,800
subscribers and no views to show
for it, it kills the algorithm.

1879
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,560
So all of a sudden it kicks you
to the bottom.

1880
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,920
It's like actually it's a
negative connotation then

1881
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,800
because you have 100,000
subscribers and you're getting

1882
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,360
less than 100 views on every the
show you put out.

1883
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,680
The algorithm doesn't like that
right?

1884
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:58,000
AI is like, I don't understand.
Evidently their content sucks

1885
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,560
because they have 100,000
subscribers and no views.

1886
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,160
And another interesting thing
about AI and YouTube, effective

1887
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:11,720
July 1st, which was 17 days ago,
your content on YouTube, if it's

1888
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:17,320
not real, IE what Mike and I are
doing, this is and has and has

1889
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,240
real people, real faces, real
voices, real human voices, real

1890
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,080
human interaction.
Am IA real?

1891
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:28,680
Person sometimes depending on
the matrix Pinocchio, but the

1892
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:32,400
ones that create content that's
fake, they use AI to create a

1893
01:36:32,480 --> 01:36:35,480
using AI to create content.
The YouTube spiders, Google

1894
01:36:35,480 --> 01:36:37,360
spiders, they're not going to
recognize it anymore.

1895
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:42,120
So if if you're not real like
this, your contents not going

1896
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,760
anywhere because it's not going
to recognize it being real.

1897
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,640
So that way it will do what Mike
just mentioned about the fake

1898
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,400
followers with not enough views,
you're going to get pushed down

1899
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,400
to the bottom.
I did not know that.

1900
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,800
It's interesting.
Yeah, Why?

1901
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,280
Because think about it, you
can't tell some stuff now from

1902
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:00,880
reality and AII.
Mean OK, so with that said, have

1903
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,680
you heard of that just that's
great.

1904
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:04,880
That's just triggered this
memory.

1905
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,600
Have you heard of these bands on
Spotify now that are blowing up

1906
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,240
that are AI?
Yes.

1907
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:11,840
But that's Spotify, it's not
YouTube.

1908
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,960
But I think that YouTube, now
that you say that, I think

1909
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,440
that's YouTube's way of
combating that happening to them

1910
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:25,440
because I I had actually heard
of one of those bands on Spotify

1911
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,200
and I'm like, that can't be a
fake man.

1912
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,560
It was.
Yeah, it's insane.

1913
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,320
So it's somebody sitting at
their laptop like me that's

1914
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,280
being nefarious and saying I can
create a whole band.

1915
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,480
And you can, if you're Lemoine,
you can sit here with my MacBook

1916
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:42,240
Pro and he can make it sound
like Van Halen by himself with

1917
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,200
never picking up an instrument.
I have every instrument I need

1918
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,480
inside that Studio 1 program
that I use here.

1919
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,920
That's amazing.
And because I know how to play,

1920
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,720
and because he knows how to
play, he can say I want an A

1921
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,360
chord, AG chord and AD chord,
and I want it to go this many

1922
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,200
times on this measure and I can
keep charting it out until the

1923
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,760
song is done right.
Yeah.

1924
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,560
So somebody did that with an
entire band named it gave it

1925
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,120
members and I.
Think Spotify awesome and made

1926
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,160
money?
Yes, I think it's awesome, but

1927
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,360
it's also not awesome because
you're you're taking the offense

1928
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:23,040
of authenticity of what makes a
musician A musician away because

1929
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:27,160
the the the whole reason every
successful band, right,

1930
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:28,760
everybody that's out there in
the upper.

1931
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,840
But am I because it's me?
My phone.

1932
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,160
Wait, let me finish my all
right, let me finish my thing

1933
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,840
here.
Every band who is who is filling

1934
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,800
stadiums and arenas and shit
like that, they paid their dues,

1935
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,800
right?
Like we paid our dues.

1936
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:47,640
So then you take somebody who's
sitting in front of computer one

1937
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,640
night and he creates an entire
band and then spends a couple

1938
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,680
weeks creating an entire set
list of 12 songs and puts it up

1939
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,120
on Spotify.
It's Milli Vanilli artificially

1940
01:38:57,480 --> 01:38:59,360
and make money and blah, blah,
blah.

1941
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:00,520
And then they finally get called
out.

1942
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,760
You're not a real band.
They just hoodwinked.

1943
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,320
Hoodwinked.
How many ever many people?

1944
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,480
So so to me, it's it's not
genuine because you're just

1945
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:09,960
showing the world.
But I'm going to make.

1946
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,680
I'm going to make my same
argument.

1947
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,960
OK, what if it's me?
I'm a musician.

1948
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,680
If there's validity there
because you are a musician, but.

1949
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,800
What if I wrote all the music on
my computer and I sent it to you

1950
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,120
and you sang the song?
Does that make it any less of a

1951
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:25,600
song?
No, no, because I'm.

1952
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,800
But it's a real person singing
the songs.

1953
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,160
I mean, you created the music,
yes?

1954
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:31,880
But I've never played an
instrument.

1955
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,040
But you but you know how to play
instruments.

1956
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,960
That's my argument.
Right, right.

1957
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:37,480
What?
If that person's the same way,

1958
01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:40,040
what if Lemoyne sat down and
created his whole band in his

1959
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,600
head and put it up there as a
fake band and it took off, which

1960
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,200
it very well could be just like
his album's doing right now

1961
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,840
because he's a talented
individual.

1962
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,160
What if Lemoyne sits there and
it's a cold winter in Illinois

1963
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:52,560
and he can't get out for three
months?

1964
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,840
And he's like, I got this
vision, this guy, he's like this

1965
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,840
kind of singer, and I always
wanted this kind of drummer.

1966
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,480
And he just dreams it up in his
head, like.

1967
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,920
You would write a book, right?
That's.

1968
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,080
A valid point, OK, and.
He sticks it up on Spotify and

1969
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,720
it blows up and he's got 20
million subscribers a month

1970
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,360
because he wrote such damn good
music, but he never played an

1971
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,760
instrument.
I'll give you that.

1972
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,680
I agree with that.
Then it's yeah, it's, yeah.

1973
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,040
OK, so that's no different than
somebody the producers behind

1974
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,160
boy bands and shit, right?
So, yeah, I'll give you that.

1975
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,520
I can see that point of view
now.

1976
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,800
It you can argue both sides of
it, Yeah, I'm not saying that

1977
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,480
either side is wrong.
I'm just giving you my opinion.

1978
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:28,760
But that's, I mean, that's a
valid point that I wasn't even

1979
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,520
thinking about.
So that from that aspect of it,

1980
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,080
then yeah, there's nothing wrong
with it.

1981
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,800
Because at first I was thinking
exactly like you just did.

1982
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,680
And I had to, you know, break it
all the way down to the nub, as

1983
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,360
I say.
And I put myself in their shoes.

1984
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,480
And I'm like, if I sat here on
my MacBook Pro and I created a

1985
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:49,440
whole band in my head and it
blew up, and then all of a

1986
01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:51,880
sudden everybody's saying that
I'm not legitimate, I'd be

1987
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,440
fucking pissed.
I'm like, of course I'm

1988
01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:54,840
legitimate.
I'm the one that wrote the

1989
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,920
songs, put them up there, and
people love them, right?

1990
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,160
I got 20 million subscribers a
month.

1991
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,320
How's that wrong?
Yeah, that's true.

1992
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,080
OK.
Yeah, I'll give you that.

1993
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:04,520
I agree with you.
Then you've changed my mind.

1994
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,160
Good job.
Get your calendars out, boys and

1995
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,000
girls.
Mic change my mind.

1996
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,000
It's a.
It's a valid point though, and

1997
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,760
that's A and and that's a good
place for to wrap the show up

1998
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,560
today because you know, I got
shit to do.

1999
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,160
You got shit to do and you know
again.

2000
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:22,720
Mostly go pee, if we're being
honest.

2001
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:28,360
OK, well, you got to start
somewhere, you know, So our next

2002
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:34,520
show, just just to see who it
is, we were supposed to have

2003
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,760
Terry Devine on.
So we will poke at Terry and

2004
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,520
make sure that he he joins the
show.

2005
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,320
I don't remember what Terry's
about, so I'm not going to

2006
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,360
elaborate on that.
But, you know, to the survivor

2007
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,720
out there, Katie, I don't know
what happened today, but I I

2008
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,280
messaged you and and you just,
you just didn't respond.

2009
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,320
So hopefully everything's OK in
your world and you just had a

2010
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,440
snack.
We wish you well.

2011
01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:52,160
Katie.
For sure.

2012
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,720
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

2013
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,800
But she sounded like an
interesting conversation

2014
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,120
because, you know, she did, she
did dub herself the survivor

2015
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,560
from something, not really sure
what survivor or what, because,

2016
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,040
you know, we didn't have her on
the show.

2017
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,360
Well, you guys got to listen to
two survivors here, so.

2018
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,320
You did, you did.
And hey again, you can find us

2019
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,680
on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
Spotify, all the Apple, all the

2020
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:23,680
all the podcasting platforms.
As Mike alluded to, also Twitch

2021
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,400
because we record this and it's
YouTube and Twitch live,

2022
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,200
correct.
We are working on a website,

2023
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,400
chrisandmikeshow.com.
So we'll get that up and

2024
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:33,320
running.
Be patient with us.

2025
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:34,600
Thank you.
It's just two of us, and we have

2026
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:39,280
real lives aside from this, yes.
You know?

2027
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,400
Anything else you want to share
before we jump ship?

2028
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,040
It's 1111, which is kind of
cool, you know?

2029
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,800
Here's an interesting fact that
I thought you would appreciate

2030
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,160
because you like interesting
facts.

2031
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,160
I do like.
Interesting.

2032
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,520
You know how we talked about
the, I'll make this quick, but

2033
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,280
you know how we talked about the
airplane and we found out from

2034
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,720
Carl the airplane crashes are
not really more than we thought

2035
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:04,840
they were.
Yes, as far as flash floods go,

2036
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,600
it's actually way worse than I
would have anticipated.

2037
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,000
So now they're going to call
this the year of the flood.

2038
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:15,920
So far there have been 4400
flash flood reports and the

2039
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,720
average year to date is 1900.
Wow.

2040
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:27,000
So we're what, 3 times?
Wow. 2 1/2.

2041
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,560
You know what that could be?
Because the Earth is moving at

2042
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:34,240
.00000005 milliseconds faster it
is.

2043
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,240
You know that's going to add up
over time though.

2044
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:40,240
It is.
It is really, you know, And then

2045
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,160
they found another world that's
just like ours, but it's it's so

2046
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,000
far away.
It doesn't matter, which I don't

2047
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,480
know why they tell us that shit
like, oh, we found another world

2048
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:50,120
called Andromney over here and
this the other Galaxy.

2049
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,360
OK, Why?
Who cares?

2050
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,480
We're not, unless you're going
to beam me up, Scotty, Who

2051
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,280
cares?
I think it's.

2052
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,400
I think that possibility is
there.

2053
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,960
I think that I think no, I think
they're going to be able to fold

2054
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,400
space and time.
I think we're going to finally

2055
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,040
learn that time is way different
than we.

2056
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,320
We think time is linear.
I don't think time.

2057
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,440
Is.
I don't think time is either.

2058
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,960
Once they can figure out why
time is not linear and if they

2059
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:19,720
can fold space and time all of a
sudden, instead of 480 light

2060
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,400
years to get to the next planet,
it might be 6 months because you

2061
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,480
can ZAP through this wormhole.
Yeah, and I was watching this

2062
01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:30,880
documentary, I think last week,
I think it was called Back to

2063
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,960
the Future where the scientist,
he had developed a time machine

2064
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,640
and it it propelled I'm.
Going to tell you why that's not

2065
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,520
possible.
Yeah, he propelled his friend.

2066
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,520
Because DeLorean quit making
cars.

2067
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:48,280
And I love your example though.
Yeah, yeah.

2068
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,240
There's this documentary.
There's three parts to it.

2069
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,160
There is actually.
There's five, I thought.

2070
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,120
No, there's only three Back to
the Future.

2071
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,640
Oh, I thought there's 5.
The third one's where he goes

2072
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,160
out West that I'm.
Not Oh, that's right.

2073
01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:01,400
Yeah.
I just, you know, the first one.

2074
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,920
The first one was.
Good.

2075
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,800
The second one was good too.
The second one was decent from

2076
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,320
the fact that if you, if you go
watch the second one, you're

2077
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,920
going to see all kinds of
relevance to our world today,

2078
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,480
which is a, which is a trip,
which is a total trip.

2079
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,640
You know, talking to ATV on the
wall, which, you know, we talk

2080
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,000
to Siri all the time.
So that's a trip.

2081
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,120
So talk to your car now.
Right.

2082
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:26,160
I had to.
I had, I had someone I know that

2083
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,680
had had one of those, has one of
those Rivion trucks, you know

2084
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,320
those electric trucks.
Yeah, they make them right down

2085
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,960
the road from where I live.
OK.

2086
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:36,600
And you get in there and it's
Alexa, Alexa brain.

2087
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,280
And he's like, I just tell
Alexa, Take Me Home and I buckle

2088
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:41,440
up.
And that's all I got to do.

2089
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,960
That's crazy, right?
Yeah.

2090
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:51,040
There's a way MO graveyard in in
my part of town because the way

2091
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,600
MO breakdown more than people
think and they're lined up side

2092
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,680
to side, bumper to bumper.
That's the driverless car

2093
01:45:58,680 --> 01:45:59,800
company.
Right, right.

2094
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,240
They're all Jaguars, but they
have, they have so much issues

2095
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,160
with them that legit there's a
graveyard where they just cycle,

2096
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,640
they break down, they fix
breakdown and they're Jags.

2097
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,800
So you know, the vehicle itself
is fantastic.

2098
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,040
It's a Jaguar.
You know why I think that is

2099
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,480
real quick.
Yeah, yes.

2100
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:17,800
Please.
I don't think it's the

2101
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,120
technology.
I think that the infrastructure

2102
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:23,040
is not ready for that advanced
of technology.

2103
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:27,280
If you look at how broken down
our infrastructure is and now

2104
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,760
that I'm driving this car that
basically drives itself for a

2105
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:35,160
gas powered engine, it it's not
like an electric car, but it's

2106
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,560
got sensors all over it, right?
So it sees the lines on the road

2107
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:42,680
until the lines on the road are
not there enough or not there

2108
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:43,400
at.
All right.

2109
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,600
Yes, yes.
You go to other countries and

2110
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,760
that's the reason they have real
thick lane lines and stuff like

2111
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:52,000
that, so that their cars will
drive themselves where they need

2112
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,640
to go.
It's very helpful if your

2113
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,520
infrastructure is up to par.
Agreed.

2114
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,400
Well, but you don't want the
infrastructure in the back, the

2115
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,760
back country roads of Illinois
because it takes the the

2116
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,360
character away from that shit.
Well, I can.

2117
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:06,920
Still, I mean, at least I
wouldn't, you know what I mean?

2118
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,160
I don't, I because I, I learned
how to drive in Illinois and

2119
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,960
those back roads of Illinois and
I, I, I can remember that

2120
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,960
vividly.
I don't, I don't want lane lines

2121
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,280
on country roads.
I want barren country roads with

2122
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,120
country roads.
Take Me Home.

2123
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,760
No, but in the city where you're
talking about driverless cars,

2124
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,920
you would think that.
And Phoenix is pretty advanced

2125
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:30,640
as far as not being a broken
down Rd. system, but it's it's

2126
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,600
still aging, right?
You haven't been here in a

2127
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:33,640
while.
That's ridiculous.

2128
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,000
They're down now.
They're widening the 2O2.

2129
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:41,280
OK, they built the two O 2 in
2003.

2130
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:46,640
Four 5K on my side, the same 10.
Oh OK, the other side opened up

2131
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,840
when I first moved.
There, but they're widening it.

2132
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,040
And so they're widening the
bridges.

2133
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,000
They're they're, it's the
stupidest thing, man.

2134
01:47:54,440 --> 01:47:55,600
They're doing the same thing
here.

2135
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,560
It's it's just.
Route 80 has been under.

2136
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:02,000
Here's an example of how.
Here's an example of how.

2137
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,200
Sometimes I really believe, and
I can't prove this, so I'm just

2138
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:06,720
speculating.
Don't sue us.

2139
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,840
How?
Unions kind of screw things up

2140
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,360
sometimes.
And I am the vice president of

2141
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,480
my local union, so it's not that
I'm anti union.

2142
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,360
They literally have been working
on the section of Route 80 since

2143
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:24,200
2016 and in that same amount of
time the state of Michigan has

2144
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:29,360
done I-94 in a for 168 miles in
both directions, including the

2145
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,720
overpasses.
The state of Illinois has been

2146
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,120
working on widening this one
section of Route 80.

2147
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,520
Now, it is a massive engineering
project.

2148
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,560
I'm not saying it's not.
It's massive just like you're

2149
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,320
describing.
Adding lanes to an Interstate is

2150
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,960
not just as simple as laying
down on a strip of concrete.

2151
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,240
Right.
But come on now, people.

2152
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:54,560
Yeah, yeah.
Do better, Illinois, Do better.

2153
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:56,320
Do better.
Like if you're going to build

2154
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,520
roads, you're building roads
because you know the population

2155
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,200
is coming.
So Bill, for the population, you

2156
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,560
know that's coming instead of
baby stepping it.

2157
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,040
Thank you.
Thank you.

2158
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,480
Don't let the bad days win.
Somebody Loves You.

2159
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:10,600
Somebody will miss you.
Don't leave a hole in somebody

2160
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,120
else's heart because you decided
to take your own life and you

2161
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:18,480
know it's it's not worth it.
So talk to somebody, reach out

2162
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:20,000
to Google Machine.
There's always somebody that

2163
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:21,480
will listen to you.
Somebody will help guide you

2164
01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:23,160
through the problem that you're
having.

2165
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,920
Take a nap, meditate, journal,
journal your feelings.

2166
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,680
You'll find that tomorrow is a
better day when you wake up and

2167
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,760
start fresh for Mike Michaels.
I'm Kristen.

2168
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,920
This is the Chris and Mike show.
Thank you so much for listening

2169
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,840
and allowing us to do this
little podcast thing.

2170
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,440
That's Mike's dream to take over
the world.

2171
01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:42,880
We're getting there inch by
inch.

2172
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,440
World domination.
As Brian Morrison says, inch by

2173
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,600
inch is a cinch.
Right, yard by yard is hard.

2174
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,280
Yard by yard is hard.
Until next time people, nothing

2175
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:53,200
but love.
Love you brother.

2176
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,840
Love you too.
Peace, Peace.

2177
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,680
We don't want to fly and this
stuff to you.

2178
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:04,360
Look the tablet.
Go insane.

2179
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:18,640
This is the place where you will
go.

2180
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:29,120
Feel the trail behind your eyes.
Feel yourself and meet yourself.

2181
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:30,520
Take a moment.
Look.

2182
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,600
Until you see him, what's the
fail?

2183
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:39,720
That's you for the clear, but
you fuck Will.

2184
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:56,520
Who is this
baby?

2185
01:51:30,750 --> 01:52:03,490
The.
Now you turn it, come down here.

2186
01:52:03,490 --> 01:52:10,290
We haven't bounced all the exam
from fighting.

2187
01:52:11,170 --> 01:52:14,050
Wait for the day.
When it's.

2188
01:52:14,130 --> 01:52:16,290
Closer.
I'm here for the way you ain't

2189
01:52:18,170 --> 01:52:20,890
no creature.
We don't play in France.

2190
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:27,080
You press on the almighty man.
You got a dream.

2191
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:34,880
Who in your life to keep our
soul in every man?

2192
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:40,120
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul evolution now.

2193
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:50,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

2194
01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:27,890
Take
your moment.

2195
01:54:08,150 --> 01:54:08,230
The.