#142 - Music, Mental Health, & Ozzy Osbourne

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What's other boys and girls
Christian Mike and the Christian

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Mike show.
We are live literally on on the

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YouTube and the there we go.
Hello.

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Why is my why is I don't
understand why my headphones

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aren't aren't like working
right, man.

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I can hear you, but I can't hear
myself and my headphones.

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I don't understand why.
Hello, Chris.

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Hello, Chris.
Hello, Chris.

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There I am.
Do you have the volume on your

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headphones turned up?
I did just now.

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There you have it.
That's always my mistake too.

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I know you know these damn
musicians doing media shit.

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What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?

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So that was my.
Else, but I can't hear myself.

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That was Mike Michaels on
guitar, lasers on them.

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So I used to do it on the stage
too.

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Ladies and gentle Mike Michaels.
I'd go Mike Michaels on guitar

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and he would.
And then and then I'd be like,

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we got Mr. Scott Connor on the
drums and William Richard Carr

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the 4th on the bass and me,
well, I'm a nothing man.

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And then Mike would start
playing Nothing Man, and there

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you go it.
Was more like this.

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There it is.
There it is.

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That was my favorite part to
play.

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But my favorite part was your
chorus.

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Man, that thing just ripped.
Scott was cooking on the drums.

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That was like double time on the
hi hat.

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Yeah, yeah.
It was that.

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Yeah, something like that.
Something like that, something

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like that, something like that.
So keep playing guitar 'cause we

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can just have a show with you
playing guitar.

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So I watched the oh, fuck me, I
got the wrong Internet on damn

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it.
That must be why you're

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chattering on me.
We're going to do a switcheroo

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and see what happens in the live
in the live world.

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OK, are.
You back.

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Well, I'm back.
Hey, it's Chris Elder here.

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We have Chris and Mike show
we're live on Twitch and

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YouTube.
Welcome to see if my, and

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hopefully my thing starts
uploading better.

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So we were supposed to have John
Carney on the show.

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He couldn't make it, which is
cool.

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We're going to reschedule him
before a later date, December.

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And I was talking to this dude,
Sean Valentine, for quite a

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while.
You've been interacting with him

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as well.
So I confirmed that he was going

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to be on the show today.
And you know, I don't know.

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I don't know where he is.
I just don't know.

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He's not, I don't know.
We're checking out Zipfis for

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you Zipfis people who's at my
door?

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There's somebody at my door.
I don't know.

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OK.
You keep on.

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Dozer went to the dozer.
Dozer went to the door.

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I got to see this at the door
because Nick, go check it out.

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Be home yet?
Chris may be under attack.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we're
going to monitor the situation

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from here.
I'm not quite sure what

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appropriate near death
experience music is.

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Maybe like that suspense.
That's the wrong story.

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That's definitely not Dave from
Ireland, ladies and gentlemen,

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that's oh Jesus.
Chris has been Chris has

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definitely been abducted.
I don't know dude.

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Nobody was there.
Chris has been abducted, ladies

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and gentlemen.
That is not a ghost.

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That is not Dave from Ireland.
What a scary ghost.

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That is not Dave from Ireland.
That's what I'm saying.

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When you were coming back, I'm
like, he's been abducted.

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It's not Dave.
I don't know where Dave's at.

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Dave's been gone for a while
now.

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I know I got to dial him up.
I found him on the on the

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streets.
I remember Dave.

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I do?
I wondered.

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Oh, he can't hear me.
I keep fucking dropping shit

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man.
I was talking to you.

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I'm like, oh, he can't hear me.
I'm that smart.

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I can't hear you, man.
I was giving Lord she's got

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captain.
What episode do you think that

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was 45?
50 That was way early in the

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days, man.
I didn't, I didn't know where

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Dave.
I don't even know where Dave's

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face is.
I'm sure it's behind me in my in

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my cabinet, but you know, so.
Honestly, that was one of the

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best days ever on a podcast, by
the way.

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Dave, Dave, we'll get Dave back
on.

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So so I told you I, I told you
my my buddy Larry Gonzalez.

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Hey, Larry.
I don't know if he watches the

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show or not, but you should
because I just name dropped you.

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He posted a thing about Ozzy's
new documentary And I'm going to

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do this.
You know how we keep getting

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blocked on YouTube and shit?
I do I have a question.

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OK.
How can these people do these?

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Remember I told you about the
charismatic voice?

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That girl that does like the
here's why the singer is so good

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kind of videos.
She's an alpha singer.

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How does she get away with that?
Because she's got to be

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monetized.
She has well over 1,000,000

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subscribers.
She has to be.

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So how does she get to do a 28
minute video on why?

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Dio is a great singer and I'm
super appreciative that she gets

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to do that.
Absolutely.

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But when we're trying to explain
why we love a certain band, we

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get blocked.
So if anybody out there knows

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why, let us know, right?
That would be great because we

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would like to talk way more
music and play way more music.

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But yes, you guys don't get to
hear it because they keep

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shutting us down.
South the camera something is

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Dan.
It's like what a convicts or

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something more.
Take I just thought of that at

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work today.
I'm like, I watched these 30

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minute explanations of why
Ozzy's a great singer, Dio's a

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great singer, Hetfield's a great
singer, you know?

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And I'm like I said, I'm super
appreciative she's making a

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living at it and doing it.
I'm just not quite sure what

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we're doing wrong, right?
I I hear you.

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I'm trying to find something, so
I don't know.

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I know you are.
No, no.

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You're good.
You're good.

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Where's my search, man?
There it is.

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Like Arsenio Hall, Things that
make you go, ladies and

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gentlemen.
Hey, hey, Joe, where are you?

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Joe?
Joe.

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I don't have all the answers but
I got a lot of questions.

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Got a lot of questions.
That's my quote.

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My head spins round and round
and round.

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Joe, come on, where the fuck is
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Type something you swear.
I think Chris just wanted me to

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hang on to my guitar so you guys
knew what was going on in my

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head when I don't have a guitar
in my hand.

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So yeah, if I see if I see my
absent minded sometimes it's

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because I got music going on.
You don't seem I wanted people

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to see the so I so I I messaged
Dave Mastain because he told me

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to message him to get him on the
show.

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He he has not, he has not
responded yet.

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He's busy getting ready to go on
tour, so we'll forgive.

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It well, OK, so now I want to
show you something though real

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quick here, because that can
this can possibly answer the

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question you have about how do
people get away with shit that

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we can't get away with?
OK, do tell.

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Well, I'm going to show you.
I'm going to share the screen.

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Look at him.
This, this this is Joey from

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Syracuse.
OK, Joey's coming on the show.

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I've been talking to him for
quite a while.

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I'm super.
I follow him.

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Yes, he's awesome.
Yes, he's way awesome.

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He's I.
Follow him too, I love his shit.

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So.
So we have.

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We've been talking.
Shit, in the nicest way

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possible, Joey.
Yeah, yeah, nice way possible.

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I got to find it again.
So I'm going to tell you when we

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we've been talking.
Oh, it's the wrong app.

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Wrong app, wrong app.
Yeah, that's awesome.

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I love his channel.
Yeah.

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Come on, Joe, where are you?
OK, so Joe, we were talking on

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next Friday, next Friday.
I'm so it's the what got to get

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my calendar.
Yeah, I don't know what that is

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either.
I either know it's a work day or

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not a work day.
It's the, It's the 17th at

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11:00.
So which I got it, I got to

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tell, I got to tell why I'm
thinking about it.

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Gambino I I triple booked this
and I can't do that.

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Also, do you not have the time?
Because if you, you don't have

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to cancel it if you don't want
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Friday's pretty wide open for
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I don't I just don't think we
can have three people that would

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be that would be a a busy day
that.

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'D be a long day, a lot a lot of
editing.

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And it's it's my fault on the
31st.

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It's a lot of work doing this,
ladies and gentlemen, I used to

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book our gig.
So if that's why you never hear

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me get excited or lose my
patience with Chris because it

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the logistics involved in doing
things months out, he does a

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stellar job.
So.

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Thank you, Mike.
You know, I mean what I say, if

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you weren't doing a stellar job,
we'd have a different

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conversation.
But this has been an awesome

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experience, and being in real
estate, I figured that was your

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Forte, right?
You're good at organizing

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things.
Jack and the people.

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So, yeah.
So Joe, so Joe's going to come

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on the show on the 17th at 11 AM
post Standard Time, Pacific

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Standard Time.
But this is this is the cool

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thing about him.
He does, he does, he takes, he

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takes his approach to all these
songs.

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That's an interesting one.
Chick swinging.

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But she's not doing that.
No, she's literally watching the

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video just like we were.
Gotcha.

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OK.
So yeah, so this is yeah.

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So this is all his stuff that he
does.

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And he he really does.
He kind of spins it and it's a

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cool thing.
So I saw him post this when he's

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talking about new chapter, new
passion.

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So I'm like, dude, let's get you
on the show.

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Let's talk about this stuff.
Let's help promote you, you

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know.
Absolutely so.

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And that's funny that we were
following him apart from each

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other.
We just figured it out right

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now.
I love that huge channel.

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Yeah, so just all and he does,
he plays all this stuff.

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So we're going to totally dive
into his life, what he's, what

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he's done, who he is.
Oh, I'm, I'm Paul.

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Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.

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So that's that's Joe.
That's he he he used to be yes,

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just Joe Syracuse and.
If you're watching Joe, I'm

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super excited to talk to you,
man.

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I've, I've been following your
channel for a long time.

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I watch all your videos.
I think we'd like all their

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stuff now because I'm pretty
sure the Chris and Mike show

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follows him too.
So check this out.

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I had no idea he's the voice of
the WWE and AEW themes for the

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big show.
I knew he's I knew he was.

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I knew he was a solo musician,
artist and coach.

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That Yeah, right there.
Oh, look right there.

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Look what it says.
Followed by Chris and Mike Shoe.

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Yeah, that's pretty sure, yeah.
So yeah, we're having him coming

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on the next couple weeks.
We're super exciting.

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We also have, I'm going to stop
sharing and I'm going to go back

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to this over here.
We have this this person coming

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on as well.
This is from Villo Cheetah.

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Villo Cheetah, a record label
with Bruce Gambino, been talking

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to him.
Super nice guy.

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He brought he brought Dave
Noodle on.

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Which Dave are we sharing?
I've listened to the Lord and

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the devil.
About That's such a good song.

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500 times.
So you're welcome, Dave.

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Your plays on Spotify have to
increase.

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Drastically had to increase.
So we have Gina Jones coming on.

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This is another one of of
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OK, so there she is.
She's a country singer.

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Awesome.
So it's going to be it's, it's

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probably going to be the end of
October because again, I ended

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up I, I triple booked us on the
17th, which is just insane.

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So I just messaged him saying
hey, we got to move her.

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But he'll I'm sure he'll be fine
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bringing us a whole bunch of
stuff in in November too.

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Every Friday, November is going
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record label.
So to put this into perspective

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for yourself, myself and our
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expanded drastically.
Expanding.

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We we started this two years ago
and the only people that cared

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was me, you, Mama Kay and
sunshine couple other people

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that really thought that we
could do this right.

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So to everyone that supported us
when no one cared other than

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you, thank you.
And to everyone that's joined

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along the way, we truly
appreciate it.

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It's this is so awesome.
It is.

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And hey, Michael, I'm sure
you're there at some point in

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time.
And for everybody listening, I

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really only wanted to do this to
talk to one of my best friends

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that I've ever had in my entire
life.

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So everything else that comes as
icing on the cake.

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Yeah, yeah.
He just wanted to talk to Dave.

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I did so.
So this is Dave.

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So if you I I don't remember his
show dropped.

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So he was on.
Oh, there he is.

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There's a couple of spots of him
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This guy's just a badass.
Like if you have not checked out

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Dave Nudo please.
And not only as a musician, as a

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human being.
As a human being.

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If we're telling you he's a
great human being, you can

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imagine what his music's like.
Yeah, so definitely go, go check

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out Dave Noodle, just there's
his name right there.

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Simple, easy.
He's a beast.

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Super super, you hear me say it
all the time.

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He's superhuman.
Got a a great life resume I when

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it's talking to Bruce and
talking to Dave, I'm like, dude,

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we need to get Lord and the
devil needs to be playing on

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every single station Well.
There's no reason it needs to be

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in movies.
It needs to be in TV series,

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Netflix.
The song is just everything that

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it needs to be.
It the message gets across, the

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music is outstanding, the
recording quality is over up to

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par.
We need to share that on our

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Facebook page.
I keep meaning to do that and I

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haven't done it.
I think that's all.

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There's very few times in the
last 10 years where a song has

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really spoke to me to the point
where I can't stop listening to

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it.
So great job, Dave.

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Yeah, absolutely, Dave.
That's what that song did to me.

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It got stuck in my head and
every time I think of it I got

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to listen to it.
Yep, agreed man.

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So here is here is this is the
label behind Dave Noodle.

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OK, this is Velo Cheetah.
And bringing a lot of the guests

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to the Christmas.
Bring it.

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Yeah, bring it.
Bring in a ton of our bring in a

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ton of our guests.
Oh, stop that.

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Bring a ton of our guests that
are coming with.

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This is their Facebook page just
so you guys can see it.

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There's all their information.
OK, so obviously I'm not

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clicking stuff, but like right
here.

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They got Cody Johnson live March
7th in Baltimore, MD OK, this is

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them.
This is what they do the cool

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this this is you and I have both
dealt with record labels and

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record companies and and and
those those, you know, people.

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Bruce is genuine.
He is straight up a genuine

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human who wants nothing more
than the artist to get paid for

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what they're doing and be
successful and bring them to the

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forefront.
That's that's if I had to define

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him in any way.
That's that's how he is.

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Carson Lee, he's got coming on
the show.

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We just talked about him.
We got him coming on I think in

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November.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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This is the This is the calendar
for the show.

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Awesome, there really is a
calendar.

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There really is a calendar.
I tell people in emails all the

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time.
Chris has the calendar edit.

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Yeah, I thought it was
electronic.

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Yeah, so November, we have a
Carson Lee coming on on the

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14th, so and that's a super,
super cool thing from him.

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Like I said this, this upcoming
Friday, we have Jason Santiago.

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He's not a musician, but he's a
cool dude.

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We have, we have Greg Fox, who's
a musician.

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He's a he's, I was talking to
Bruce about him today.

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So he's coming on the 17th and
then we'll have just Joe

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hopefully after that.
Monkey Guitars is coming on

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October 21st.
Monkey.

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Wait for that one too.
Right.

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Tell the world whom who Monkey
Guitars builds guitars for Mike.

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So the one person in his life
who is also one of my favorite

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guitar players is Peter Clip
from Candlebox.

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And this guy built a guitar for
him that Peter fell in love with

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and cannot stop playing.
He plays at every show on the

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Candle Box reunion.
Tour right on.

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And he's just so excited that he
built him another one.

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I think he's got it already.
I'm pretty sure it's done, but

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I'm super excited to talk to
that guy too.

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So I'm happy for him.
I'm happy for his success, Chris

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and I understand what it takes
to start a vision and see it

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through to fruition, right?
So when something like that

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happens to you, that's your
ultimate goal, but you never

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really expect it to happen,
right?

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No.
That guy was his idol, just like

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he was my idol.
I was standing there.

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Chris was right behind me at the
concert.

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That's how we met.
I was there in awe of this guy's

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guitar playing, his tone.
Peter, if you ever happen to

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listen to this, you're more than
welcome to come on here for as

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long as you want to talk,
because I would love to pick

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your brain.
Well, and here's and here's

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here's Monkey Guitars page.
So this is super.

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Excited.
To talk to him, man.

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So he's coming on the show.
I was kind of hoping to show his

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his.
So it's, it's, it's all the

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technical stuff.
It's, you know, it's, it's, you

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know, let's see if there's
anything fun, you know?

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No offense, buddy.
Hey, I can nerd out on guitars.

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Yeah, I know.
I this is this is totally for a

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nerd thing.
It's not for me.

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Bruce just texted me back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is true.
I got to text Bruce back.

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Oh, that's what it was.
I was stopping myself 1 short.

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OK, so OK, I'm going to get rid
of Monkey Guitars.

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So back-to-back to back to Velo
Cheetah Music.

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Velo Cheetah.
So that again, Carson Lee's

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coming on the show.
Get out of there.

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So if you want to find out more
about them, there's their

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website,
infovelocheetahmusicentertainment.com.

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They also have a YouTube
channel.

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We should review them.
Let's review them, shall we?

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Yes, let's recommend.
This is how you do reviews, boys

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and girls.
So when we ask you to, when you

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come on our show, we ask you,
hey, give us a review.

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So you go to the Facebook page
and you you find the review

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button and you do this.
Which is right towards the top

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of the page and the top third of
the page it says write a review.

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Right.
And it's very helpful to get our

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page in front of other pages
that have not, you know, other

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people that have not seen us.
And it doesn't cost me anything.

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No, no.
I like things that are free.

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Exactly.
A lover of music wants to see

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everyone succeed.
Tell him that Chris and Mike

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Show sent ya.
Damn straight, And those are the

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people like you said that we
love, man, that just are

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musicians supporting musicians
genuine.

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And he writes me, he's writing
songs and music and shit.

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He, we've been talking about all
the stuff he's been doing on his

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own and with his label.
The guy is just super, super

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cool.
I, I, I mean, I don't, I don't

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have like a man crush, but he's
just, he's just a really good

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human And he's, he's fun.
He's fun to talk to.

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He's he's he's got all kinds of
knowledge and wisdom.

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It just just a super cool guy.
Like here's his album, the road

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Rd. tours.
So this is this is whoever

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whoever's bus this is, it's one
of the one of the bands that

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he's this one's going was going.
This was in 23 was going

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southbound across Canada and the
United States and heading to

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Nashville, TN.
So that's a tour bus.

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There's the inside of a tour bus
for some artists that they took

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care of.
And you know, that's, that's

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just this dude, man.
So straight up so.

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That's nicer than the VW boss.
We're trying to get Bob on.

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See Bob Oakman right there and
that name right there we're

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trying to get, we're trying to
get Bob on Bob Bob's Bob's a

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pretty legit dude in the
industry.

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Oh yeah, Creed, Creed, Creed is
bringing Creed, miss.

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There's Dave Noodles Band right
there.

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There's another plug for Dave.
Yeah, we love Dave.

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Yeah, it was awesome.
I'm this is Bob Oakman Studio.

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I'm assuming that's Bob Oakman,
so I don't know for sure because

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I've never met Bob and I've
never met Bruce.

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I've just talked to him on the
phone.

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What about There's Chunky's got
there.

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There's Carson.
Carson Lee Mother Rd.

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Music What is this chance to win
Route 6 Route 66 guitar Oh by

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the way Villa cheat is going to
get us some signed drumsticks

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that we can have have a Q&A or a
raffle or something on the show

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live on the show that we will
get we.

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Will have to think of something
good for that.

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Absolutely.
I so, yeah, I, I, yeah, there's

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Hank.
He just, he just had a thing

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with Hank Williams Junior not
too long ago.

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We talked about that, which is
pretty cool.

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Hank Williams Junior is an icon,
man, the legend.

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We talked, he talked, we talked
about Quiet Riot, how they're

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back on the road.
He's doing some stuff with them,

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which is really cool.
So this guy's not, not not he's

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he's, he's somebody who has has
movement in his, in his label

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and doing things.
There it is.

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WASP, Black and Lawless.
New shows added.

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Yeah, let me talk to Blackie
Bruce.

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Yeah, I would love that.
I've been a WASP fan since I was

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probably, I don't know, 10-11
years old.

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Yeah, yeah, right on.
So, yeah, So this is this is

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their webs, this is the Facebook
page.

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Let's go to their let's go to
their kind of go to the YouTube

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page.
Yeah, we're going to go to the

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YouTube page.
See what they got happened on

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happened a little bit on the
YouTube page.

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Let's stop sharing that YouTube
in it.

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Let's go back to the share going
to the YouTube page.

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So this is his YouTube page,
right?

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This is the videos and stuff
only.

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I'm sorry, I didn't subscribe to
that.

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My bad.
We're subscribed now, Bruce,

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we're going to help help you get
this thing going.

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So baby steps still still build
their their YouTube page was

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just cool, you know, but you got
to you got to you got to get

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everything going, man.
You got to get everything going

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for sure.
So he's super, super good human

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being, man, excited to be a part
of his world and what he's

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helping us get on the show is is
fantastic.

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Here's another fun thing.
This is it's had a squirrel

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moment.
What I wanted what we were

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talking about before the show
started the day was this so

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Ozzy's new documentary just
dropped last night or two days

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ago on Paramount.
It's called no Ozzy, no escape

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from now.
And and I got to tell you from

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from somebody who grew up and a
lot of people have grown up with

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Ozzy's music from one way or
another.

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It it it hit home on a on a lot
of different levels.

450
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,200
It talks about how I don't want
to give it away because it's a

451
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,160
really good documentary.
You just need to watch it.

452
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,920
But there's going to be some
things that you're going to see

453
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,760
it.
It's going to resonate with you

454
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240
as a musician as it did with me.
I was talking to Bruce about

455
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,320
this earlier that you just don't
you don't realize the impact of

456
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,760
a fan base and being in front of
people have on you.

457
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840
And it talks about them.
No.

458
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,920
And it talks about the dynamic
of he and Sharon, you know, for

459
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,320
41 years were non-stop on the
road at one time raising 3 kids

460
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,000
all under to the age of three.
Mind you, the only other

461
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
musicians I ever I ever know
that have done that were Pat

462
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,920
Benatar and Neil Dorado because
they raised their kids on the

463
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,600
road too.
But Pat and Neil, I don't think

464
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,040
had the substance.
No.

465
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Issues you had so just the
dynamic of that and then the

466
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440
documentary got Jack Kelly and
Amy talking all three of their

467
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,920
kids.
Amy's always kind of shield away

468
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,960
from the spotlight.
But but she was the oldest of

469
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,360
the three kids between Ozzy and
Sharon.

470
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,840
It's I can't I cannot like just
impress you upon the fact that

471
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,520
you you got to watch this thing.
This is it's amazing.

472
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,080
It's amazing documentary for
somebody who who 115,000,000

473
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:20,680
albums worldwide gross or $200
million in in tours, the most

474
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,000
successful artist, solo artist
in the history of music.

475
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
So that's impressive.
So watch that show.

476
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,840
It's on paramount.
It's it's, it's, it's it's the

477
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,520
Aussies no escape from now.
It's it's sad.

478
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,440
It's it's funny.
I cried like I don't cry.

479
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240
I don't cry for anything, man.
And shit you not, at the end of

480
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,880
it, I was, I was fucking rolling
up like a baby.

481
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,040
Because it's just.
It's just.

482
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000
You know why I feel bad?
Because I cry at shit like that,

483
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800
but I don't cry when you're
supposed to.

484
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,280
Yeah, it doesn't matter the to
me, the the the reason why I

485
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,840
got.
It doesn't matter to me either,

486
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,560
but you know me.
I'm like, I feel not only my own

487
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,280
feelings, I feel everybody
else's feelings around me.

488
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:10,040
So true, I'm hyper aware of how
other people expect me to react

489
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,160
in certain situations right?
And it's difficult when I

490
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,520
disappoint them.
Yeah, I can see that.

491
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,080
You know, because I don't do it
maliciously.

492
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,240
I do it to protect me, right?
Everything I do in my life after

493
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,160
recovery is to protect my Peace
of Mind and my physical being,

494
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,760
right?
Whether it be I have to rest, I

495
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,960
have to be alone, I have to be
with people, whatever.

496
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,080
But yeah, yeah.
The, the thing that, that I

497
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:45,200
think hit me was the fact that,
that it takes 25 years once your

498
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,960
first album's released, you have
25 years to be, you have to wait

499
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,640
25 years to be deducted in the
Hall of Fame.

500
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,800
Well, Ozzy, Ozzy did it.
It took them 44 years to get him

501
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520
to the Hall of Fame, which is
ridiculous.

502
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,760
And in the, in the, in the
documentary, Sharon even points

503
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,480
it out.
She's like, she says she's told

504
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,720
these people at the Hall, like,
why do you wait so long?

505
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,320
Not just for Ozzy, but for
everyone.

506
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Well, you know, in his case, I
think that he got blackballed

507
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:18,520
until society caught up to the
fact that everything that the

508
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,120
previous generation had dubbed
him as was fucking utterly

509
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:28,160
ridiculous, right?
I think that's really what

510
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,760
happened is I think he got
blackballed just for the simple

511
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,720
fact that the stories were out
there.

512
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,840
He, you know, bitten the head
off a bat.

513
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840
He worshipped the devil.
Your children were.

514
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Yeah, your children were killing
themselves because they were

515
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,680
listening to his music.
Just everything that was utterly

516
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,240
ridiculous.
Yeah.

517
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,880
So it took getting our
generation, I guess, to the

518
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,080
point where we were adults, and
we knew that that was ridiculous

519
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,360
because if one kid killed
himself because he was listening

520
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,760
to Ozzy and that he was a
troubled child, and that's

521
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040
horrible, but none of my friends
ever killed themselves listening

522
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
to Ozzy.
We just rocked out and smoked

523
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800
some cigarettes and drank some
beer and you know.

524
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,960
And there I saw something where
this, because once he passed

525
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640
away, there's all kinds of
snippets and reels dropping all

526
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,840
over the place.
And there was, there was an

527
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800
interview with him about that,
about the, the kid who committed

528
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,000
suicide and suicide solution, he
explains.

529
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,680
You know.
Yeah, he had to go testify

530
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,520
before Congress over that
bullshit we wasted taxpayer

531
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,160
dollars on.
This.

532
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Yeah.
Yeah.

533
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240
And he's one of the greatest
thing he said with that.

534
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,920
Where were the parents?
Where were the parents?

535
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360
I wrote a song.
Where were the parents?

536
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Exactly?
Like, so you're going to pass

537
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000
your guilt of not being there
for your child, right?

538
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600
I mean, I understand we don't
always know what's going on in

539
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,240
somebody else's brain, you know?
Case in point, right, But still,

540
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:55,160
where were you when your child
was walking down just dark, dark

541
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160
path of depression, right.
And you know, and again, you

542
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,080
can't, you can't, I'm not going
to blame the parents because

543
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,800
it's, it's hard enough.
You're like, we've been touched

544
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,280
by that and it's, it's, it's
suicide, suicide.

545
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,520
And it sucks, but don't don't
blame don't blame a musician who

546
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:18,000
who did nothing to warrant you
accusing him of killing

547
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,960
themselves because he listened
to suicide solution.

548
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,280
The lyrics for suicide solution
are just that.

549
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,600
It's it's kind of anti suicide.
It's like if I keep thinking.

550
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Completely anti suicide song.
Let's find the lyrics, shall we?

551
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Please.
Because these things are

552
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,760
important.
You know, I'm not just being

553
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,600
flippant and saying, you know,
it wasn't his fault.

554
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,320
He wasn't out there putting
backward masking messages or

555
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,880
what.
No.

556
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,160
Effect.
It was an effect.

557
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,920
Correct.
That whole Satanic Panic thing

558
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,080
of the 80s was just.
Tripper Gore Tripper Gore

559
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Tripper fucking gore, man Tip
you had to be relevant.

560
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Tipper Gore.
Tipper Gore.

561
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,160
Don't, don't, just don't get
wrapped up with Jack Tripper.

562
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,600
I'm sorry.
My bad.

563
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,360
And for those you know, Jack
Tripper, John Ritter, character

564
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,440
on Three's Company, Come and
knock on my door.

565
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,040
Knock on my door.
We've been waiting for you.

566
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400
We've been waiting.
Still a hilarious show if you

567
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,880
watch it.
Right.

568
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,920
Sure.
OK, so here's the lyrics.

569
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,160
The suicide solution.
Wine is fine.

570
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Whiskey's quicker.
Suicide is slow with liquor.

571
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Take a bottle.
Drown your sorrows.

572
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440
Then it floods away.
Tomorrow's our way.

573
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Tomorrow's evil thoughts and
evil do Wings cold.

574
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Alone you hang in ruins.
Thought that you'd escape the

575
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Reaper.
You can't escape the Master

576
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Keeper.
That's I mean it there.

577
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,480
It's a song.
It's just a song, kids.

578
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,120
It's it's no different.
Alcohol taking control of your

579
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000
life.
Right, it's it's no different

580
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,240
from from Freeman, right with
no, it's a Freeman that I would

581
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560
that I had the lyric to it.
No, I don't believe in Jesus.

582
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,040
Nothing man, nothing man.
So there's a lyric and nothing,

583
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
man, Mike and I've talked about
this before where I where I,

584
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200
I'm, I'm in, I'm in the.
Character of This is probably

585
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,280
the only heated debate that ever
happened within Nemesis, right?

586
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000
Right.
Right, because it was heated.

587
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Yeah.
So nothing man has a line in

588
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,800
there was I don't believe in
Jesus Christ.

589
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,680
I don't believe in the
afterlife.

590
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,680
I don't believe what the
preacher.

591
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Says I don't believe.
Yeah, I don't believe what the

592
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,560
preacher says.
Yeah.

593
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
I, I, I should I find it.
Should I find the lyric?

594
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,880
Yes, please.
That's why we're here, man.

595
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680
We're doing things sometimes.
I hate, I hate, I hate leaving

596
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,320
the screen.
No.

597
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
No, no, no, no.
That's the other day when I did

598
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,800
it.
I had to pee so bad I was going

599
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,480
to pee on the floor so.
Lyrics Ladies and gentlemen,

600
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,120
this is just one bag.
Chris Dunham has wrote a couple

601
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,200
lyrics in his life.
Just a couple couple he he

602
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,800
killed a couple trees, as they
say.

603
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Yep, keep tree killer.
Of course, what pops up right

604
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,920
away?
Intervention.

605
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Divine.
First thing that comes up first.

606
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Thing Bob Rouse is down all
right.

607
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,280
What am I looking for again?
Nothing, man, Nothing.

608
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,280
I don't know why.
Immigrants into my way.

609
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Americans.
Freeman 2. 3344.

610
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:05,680
234.
There's pain and whisper.

611
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,239
I found pain and whisper.
We're talking about that

612
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:31,920
earlier.
I just take a step from one of

613
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,280
our concerts.
That's old because we were just

614
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,960
for an Angel on.
That yeah, yeah, yeah.

615
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,679
That's an old ticket for the
ballroom.

616
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,679
So that's where Chris and I met
at the Candle Box concert.

617
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,760
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're
just listening, he held up a

618
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,280
ticket for Desperate Angel,
which was the original Nemesis

619
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,520
name at the Electric Ballroom in
Tempe, AZ, right down the street

620
00:34:52,520 --> 00:35:00,720
from ASU.
I should really optimize this

621
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:14,240
shit man.
I don't like that song.

622
00:35:28,850 --> 00:35:34,490
Here's my.
Proof.

623
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:37,490
Proof that I was the original
lead singer of Disturbed.

624
00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:40,970
That is proof right there.
The original lead singer of

625
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:42,490
Disturbed.
So suck on that.

626
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
So that was a we must have met
in 94.

627
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:47,760
We met.
We met probably after that.

628
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Yeah, Yeah.
That wasn't that.

629
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480
That didn't last very long.
That was my my first real band.

630
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,200
And it just, you know.
I moved to Arizona in May in 93.

631
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Original lyrics to listen to
your sin right there.

632
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200
That's the song that you all
hear at the end of the podcast,

633
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,720
ladies and gentlemen.
It is at the end of almost

634
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,360
everyone since probably episode
50 this.

635
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:25,840
Is this is how cool this is?
So I wrote this in practice and

636
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,840
it has the title of this song
has no name and that's what it

637
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,240
says.
And then I typed it up to

638
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:36,040
nothing, man no shit, no shit.
So this song has on any.

639
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Of that stuff I.
Believe.

640
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960
I believe so.
I wish I yes.

641
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,320
April 1996.
Awesome.

642
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,160
So nothing, man.
Everybody listen to me.

643
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,600
I'm going to tell you how it's
supposed to be.

644
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,680
I'm going to be a free man.
I'm going to fight until the

645
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:56,960
end.
I'm going to find the answer

646
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,240
here.
I'm going to make it all quite

647
00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,200
clear.
That's Freeman.

648
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Is it Freeman?
I think nothing man became.

649
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840
Free.
Here it is now I see it because

650
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,120
here it is.
This is this is this is this is

651
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,520
got to be my favorite riff lyric
that I wrote because of the hook

652
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,240
of it, the melody, because it
just rolls off the tongue.

653
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,800
I wrote this while I was doing
lights at a play at MCC, the

654
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,640
rehearsal of the play, and I had
Alice In Chains playing in the

655
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640
background while I was just
going to the light setting.

656
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,960
And this is how this came just
from that being in the

657
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,320
auditorium.
I think it was.

658
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,160
I think it was.
What fucking hell was that?

659
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,720
I don't know.
That's the Rooster album for

660
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,600
Alice In Chains, but it's like,
what can I say?

661
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
I had isn't.
That on dirt.

662
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Dirt.
Yes.

663
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,880
So what can I say?
I had a bad day, sipping on a

664
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,360
bottle, just wasting time away.
I don't know what I've been

665
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,120
told, and I don't know just
where I'll go.

666
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560
I live my life, take it day by
day, serve my time.

667
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,800
It'll never fade away because I
am perfect at the chosen one.

668
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,640
I find my place.
I don't need the Sonia.

669
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,400
So take me now baby.
How I am.

670
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Leave the rest.
Separation of sin.

671
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Take me now baby.
Believe me be I chose my soul in

672
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600
eternity.
Now I lay 6 feet to rest.

673
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,320
I got no regrets, got nothing
left.

674
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Just the time that was spent in
vain.

675
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,760
Just the soul crying out of
shine.

676
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,160
So start at the beginning of
that.

677
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,400
OK.
So that part, that part is that

678
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,720
part.
The take me now.

679
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Yeah, because that was the.
Where'd they come in at?

680
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,200
I remember.
Right there.

681
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,880
So right there, 234.
So.

682
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Check me in now, baby, how I am.
Leave the rare separation of

683
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,320
sin.
Check them now, baby.

684
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,280
Leave me.
Please join my soul.

685
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,760
And it's turning chief now I
live shit St. you rest.

686
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,640
I've got no regrets.
Got nothing left.

687
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Just a time that was spent in
vain.

688
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Just a soul.
Crying out in.

689
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Shame.
And I don't believe in the after

690
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,280
liars, don't believe in Jesus
Christ.

691
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,640
I don't believe in the coming
man, don't believe in the

692
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:27,600
government's pain and I don't
believe in yesterday's, don't

693
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,560
believe in social praise and I
don't believe in the histories,

694
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,480
don't believe that societies.
It's different without the drums

695
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,960
in the bass, man.
Yeah, I realized we were going

696
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,960
super slow in the.
Beginning super slow, but yeah,

697
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:52,800
so the lyric that's more like.
Don't believe in Jesus Christ,

698
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
and I don't believe in the
common man.

699
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Don't believe in the
government's plan and I don't

700
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:08,480
believe in the yesterday's.
Don't believe in social praises.

701
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:15,160
I don't believe in history.
Don't believe in society.

702
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Yeah.
So the so yeah, so the lyric

703
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
that that we had a debate on was
was the IT was the pre course,

704
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,520
right?
I don't believe in the afterlife

705
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,480
and I don't believe in Jesus
Christ.

706
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,080
I don't believe in the common
man.

707
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,560
I don't believe in the
government's plan.

708
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,480
I don't believe in yesterday's
and I don't believe in the

709
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,240
social praise.
I don't believe in histories and

710
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,880
I don't believe in societies
because I'm nothing, I'm a

711
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,480
nothing man.
But Scott had a problem with

712
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,080
with I don't believe in Jesus
Christ.

713
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Yeah, because he was thinking of
it as he was saying that, right?

714
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,440
So when I finally had a chance
to talk to him one-on-one.

715
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Right, right, right.
Right.

716
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,280
I basically just said, look,
we're artists.

717
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,800
He's an artist.
Yeah.

718
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,880
He may not even believe what he
wrote.

719
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,360
He may be writing it from a
third person of somebody else

720
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,800
who he created in his head.
Correct.

721
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Exactly.
Yep.

722
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,000
So this guy is at the and I
explained it to him and like,

723
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,640
immediately you could see the
understanding wash over him,

724
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800
right?
Yeah, yeah.

725
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Like, this is a guy who is
fucking desperate.

726
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,600
He's just, he's at his.
What's end?

727
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Right.
He's Michael Douglas and falling

728
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,920
down, right?
I've had it.

729
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,240
Basically, yeah, cuz, cuz here's
the thing.

730
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,640
OK, so just going back to what
can I say, I had this.

731
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,880
This is my favorite thing I've
ever wrote.

732
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
As far as rolling off the
tongue, it's.

733
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,560
I love the way that that one
section I just figured out again

734
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,040
when that where it went high
from the.

735
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,600
Like the same three chords
forwards and backwards.

736
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,200
But like you said, the flow of
how that worked together was

737
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,360
outstanding.
Right, right, because really,

738
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,920
the intro of the song, what can
I say?

739
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,720
I had a bad day.
Sipping on a bottle, just

740
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,000
wasting time away.
I don't know what I've been

741
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,560
told.
I don't know just where I'll go.

742
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,760
I've lived my life and take it
day by day.

743
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,040
I serve my time and it'll never
fade away because I ain't the

744
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,840
chosen one.
I'll find my place underneath

745
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,240
the song.
Didn't Mike has a guitar solo

746
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,280
and then a breakdown.
So take me now, baby, how I am.

747
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Leave the rest.
Separation of sin.

748
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Take me now baby, leave me be.
I chose my soul and eternity.

749
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,080
I love that line before that one
too.

750
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,720
Thank you.
Read that again.

751
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,920
So take me now, baby, how I am,
leave the rest.

752
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Separation of sin.
I fucking.

753
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,440
Love the way.
That take me now baby, leave me

754
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
be.
I chose my soul and eternity now

755
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,240
I lay 6 feet to rest.
I got no regrets man.

756
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,560
Nothing left just a time that
was spent in vain.

757
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,720
Just a soul crying out in shame.
Then I do the I don't believe

758
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,080
stuff.
But then it goes into now I

759
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,280
won't apologize for my life and
I won't apologize for damaged

760
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,880
lies.
That part always spoke to me

761
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,920
too, because now this guy is
having a conversation with

762
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,240
himself within the same idea,
right?

763
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,120
Yes, yes.
Go back to that, read that

764
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,920
again.
That's now here real quick.

765
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,160
Squirrel moment.
The reason that, and I don't

766
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,760
know, she may say yes, I
remember that like it was

767
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,280
yesterday.
Mama Kay may not even remember

768
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000
why she was never concerned
about the kind of music I

769
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,040
listened to, because the first
thing I told her, and she always

770
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,600
knew whether I was lying to her
or not.

771
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,200
She's my mother, right?
Right, right.

772
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,680
I blatantly looked at her with
100% certainty and I said 99% of

773
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,120
the time I have no idea what
they're saying and I really

774
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
don't care.
I'm just listening to the guitar

775
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,200
and the drums and you know, that
was my thing at the time.

776
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Yeah, yeah.
So when I met you and I read

777
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,200
those lyrics for the first time,
other than maybe Led Zeppelin

778
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,680
and, you know, their lyrics and
Pink Floyd and things like that.

779
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,640
Poignant bands, right?
People change the world.

780
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Yeah.
You were the first person I ever

781
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,480
met that wasn't famous that I
went.

782
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Holy shit thank you, I get it
right, lyrics can be something.

783
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,480
So and yeah, yeah, OK, so.
OK, so now I want to apologize

784
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,080
for my life, and I want to
apologize for damaged lies.

785
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,080
I live my life the only way I
could.

786
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,720
I gave my soul as no other
would.

787
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Took my times eternally.
And man, I'm grateful for my

788
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,560
misery.
It taught me well about my

789
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,440
history.
It taught me well about my

790
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,160
insanity.
And then it goes back into the I

791
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560
don't believe in the afterlife
and I don't believe in Jesus

792
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,080
Christ.
I don't believe in the common

793
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,040
man.
I don't believe in the

794
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,440
government's plan.
I don't believe in yesterday's

795
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,040
and I don't believe in social
praise.

796
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,840
I don't believe in histories.
I don't believe in societies

797
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,160
because I'm nothing.
Nothing.

798
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,080
I'm a nothing man.
That's all that I am.

799
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,720
And part of this I think.
I had so much in common with

800
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:55,200
that person at the time.
Well, and I appreciate that and

801
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,800
part of it, and I'm not going to
divulge, I don't like telling

802
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,280
why I wrote what I wrote, but
part of it, I think, was my

803
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,960
internal struggle with the, the,
the faith and the, the journey I

804
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960
was walking on with, with young
life and all that kind of stuff.

805
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120
And, you know, half of my soul
was kind of, you know, driven.

806
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,280
I wanted to be a high school
passion.

807
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640
The other half of my soul I
wanted, I wanted to be for like

808
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600
a better term, which is I, I
wanted to be like Ozzy.

809
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,600
I wanted to be on a stage in
front of thousands of people

810
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,840
every night.
Me too.

811
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,880
That's where I'm at home.
That's where I'm at peace.

812
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,400
It's like he talks about it in
the in the documentary.

813
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,360
When he did he did one song in
England.

814
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,440
It was, I forget what it was for
some kind of festival.

815
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,720
They went up and did Paranoid
and he's like, I wish we did

816
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:40,000
more than one song.
And I I I the one thing I hated

817
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,120
about open mics is you can only
do 3 songs.

818
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Right.
You know, I mean, it was.

819
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,000
Cool, just warmed up that for
three.

820
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,640
Right, right.
It's like you got to do more

821
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,560
than just one song.
So I, it's like halftime shows

822
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520
and things like that.
When you're doing, when you're

823
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,200
doing like the national anthem,
things like that.

824
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,200
I can't imagine just going up
and doing one song and being

825
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,760
done because if you've never
been on stage, you don't

826
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,480
understand.
It's, it's not, it's, it's not

827
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,440
a, it's a fear, but it's not a
fear.

828
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,520
It's.
OK, I'll, I'll put it into

829
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,520
perspective for you right now.
OK, OK.

830
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,040
I've been, what time is it we've
been on here for OK, so we've

831
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,840
been on here for however long,
half hour, 40 minutes.

832
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,080
I'm, I'm just now starting to
feel like I could play something

833
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,360
like if I had to record it in
the studio, right?

834
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,880
So that's, I don't play as often
as I used to.

835
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,320
I play every day, but not for
the same length of time.

836
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,240
So like Chris is saying, even
the best artist in the world,

837
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,520
their first thing that they're
going to do for the day is never

838
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,720
going to be the best.
That's why Whitney Houston, I

839
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,600
just saw you post that version
of the Star Spangled Banner,

840
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,400
hands down is still the best in
history because she had one shot

841
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,320
at that.
And that was, I'm sure she

842
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,920
warmed up a little bit, but
that's not the same as standing

843
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,200
in front of 60,000 people.
No, and that was this.

844
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,360
That was Super Bowl 5th, 25 and
that was live.

845
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160
She didn't record that shit like
a lot of them do now.

846
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,360
Stapleton didn't didn't record
his, but a lot of those artists

847
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,320
record that live because they
don't have a choice, because the

848
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,120
sound system and stuff that they
have, it doesn't work right.

849
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,560
You need to have your gear
behind you.

850
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,000
But Whitney Houston fucking sang
that shit right then and there

851
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,520
and she nailed it.
She, I mean, that is by far my

852
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,440
favorite rendition ever of that
Montana.

853
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040
I don't care who.
And I've debated it with people.

854
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Chris Stapleton.
Chris Stapleton's was good.

855
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,680
It's not Whitney.
Houston, it's not better than

856
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,880
hers.
No, nobody can touch what

857
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,320
Whitney Houston did.
Nobody.

858
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,920
That's a bar that's very high.
Yeah, that's why you don't cover

859
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,720
Whitney Houston.
Correct.

860
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,520
You don't see.
You don't see any Whitney

861
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Houston cover bands?
No, there was a fucking at my

862
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,320
office yesterday.
Nick was listening to one of the

863
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,440
one of the stations get on on
Sonos and and Dixie Chicks came

864
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,520
on, which I didn't know who it
was a Dixie Chicks who never

865
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,560
liked them, but they're covering
Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks.

866
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,360
I'm like, you don't do that.
You don't cover Stevie Nicks,

867
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,880
man.
No, you just know there's one

868
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,360
girl out there that did an
outstanding job and she got

869
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,880
famous over it.
We we talked about that there

870
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,600
was a chick on the cruise, I
don't know name.

871
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,920
The Gardner or something?
Something yeah, there was there

872
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,960
was the the cruise that Nick and
I went on the second one, the

873
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,480
the band that played the entire
cruise in the in the comedy

874
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080
showcase room.
She sounded like Stevie Nicks,

875
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,720
like legit.
And they were.

876
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,360
Yeah, they.
Were Here's what I'm going to

877
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,440
say, yeah.
OK.

878
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,600
I'll agree with you that when
I'm in a place where a live

879
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,560
bands playing, there's certain
bands that if you start playing

880
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,760
instantly, I go, you better have
your shit.

881
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,680
Yeah, Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood
Mac, because you got to cover

882
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,440
all those harmonies.
Def Leppard.

883
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,040
Def Leppard has four part
harmonies.

884
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,760
Right.
And a lot of it's with the

885
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,000
music.
People don't realize that.

886
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Def Leppard is all live.
Ladies and gentlemen, they.

887
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,080
Always have been, yes.
Right.

888
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,320
And they're still live.
They're not fucking amping and

889
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,000
shit.
I went and saw that with my own

890
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,600
eyes, and every time somebody
made fun of Def Leppard, I was

891
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,720
like, you can shut the fuck up.
Yeah, because I saw with my own

892
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:16,240
eyes guys playing harmony guitar
parts and singing harmony vocals

893
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,080
at the same time.
They weren't just playing the

894
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,360
same chords to thicken it up.
No, the one guy was playing the

895
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,000
chord, the other guy was playing
the 3rd or the 5th, and they

896
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
were singing a harmony over the
top of what Joe Elliot was

897
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,560
singing, and they were doing it
with perfection.

898
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,240
Yep, Yep.
I.

899
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:30,800
Got.
I got.

900
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,680
Goosebumps right now, man.
I was blown away walking out of

901
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,640
that Def Leppard concert.
I'm like kudos you guys kick

902
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,840
ass.
They may have.

903
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,280
They may have looked like.
They were.

904
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,720
Proper pop rock yeah, they may
have looked like yeah, they

905
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
yeah, I mean, they have they may
have they may have kind of felt

906
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,840
like they were just this this
pop rock band, but but they they

907
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,400
legit fucking you know, just,
you know, you have no, if you're

908
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,080
not a musician, you don't know
what they're doing.

909
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,360
And normally every person
doesn't realize what they're

910
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,720
doing and the dynamic that
they're creating by doing what

911
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,080
they're doing and how.
Hard, that is, to pull off,

912
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,600
especially live.
Yep, Yep.

913
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,880
Agree.
Those guys were outstanding,

914
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:17,360
man, and even Joe Elliott will
admit we had super good music

915
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,400
with sometimes questionable
lyrics.

916
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,720
Right, right, right.
It's like I don't know what

917
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,840
poured some sugar on me means
any more than you do.

918
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,840
It just sounded cool with the
riff that was going on at the

919
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,360
time.
You know it just like you said,

920
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,040
it flowed off the tongue and
everybody admitted instantly

921
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,880
that that stupid line was going
to catch on just like it did,

922
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,320
right?
It became a top ten hit.

923
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,160
Well, and what I believe,
because again, this is the

924
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
beautiful thing about music.
That's why I never really kind

925
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,120
of have ever have ever really
shared what what's behind my

926
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,840
songs that I wrote lyrically
because I want you have your own

927
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,040
interpretation of it.
What I took from Pour Some Sugar

928
00:50:54,040 --> 00:51:01,280
on Me was basically you're
making a baby and you remove the

929
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,000
phallic symbol and you pour some
sugar all over the person that

930
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,800
you're engaged with.
That's what I equate that to.

931
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,000
And if you watch the video right
back in the 80s or was in the

932
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,120
90s, that totally that totally I
ate it.

933
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,720
That totally had that in your
window because you got all the

934
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,080
chicks poured some sugar on me.
Joe Elliot, come on.

935
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,120
And you know, so 90% of Def
Leppard crowd was what, female,

936
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,680
OK.
And the 10% of men that went

937
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,120
with them to that concert got
home and they poured some sugar

938
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,280
on the person they took to the
show.

939
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,560
Just saying.
And.

940
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,240
As a band, when you look out
there and see 80% women and 20%

941
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:47,160
men, you know you've made it.
Because the women buy all the

942
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,680
stuff.
They buy the posters and the

943
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,920
magazines and the shirts and the
hats and the pics and all the

944
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,760
things, man, all the things.
Music truly makes the world go

945
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,440
out.
And when you watch the

946
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,680
documentary, the Aussie
documentary, you're going to

947
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,280
understand even more so how much
music has the impact on

948
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,560
somebody's soul and, and just
what it can do to just, you got

949
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,720
to watch it.
Watch it tonight.

950
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,600
That's I will.
That's the thing that I wish I

951
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,840
could give everyone is the gift
to live musically in our head

952
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,640
for a day.
I wouldn't want to live

953
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,000
musically in our heads for a
day.

954
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:28,480
I'm just saying, just the
ability to sit down and go, I'm

955
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,840
going to do.
Yeah.

956
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,200
Right.
To the average person looking at

957
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,040
that, when I see somebody who's
never seen me play before, when

958
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,040
their eyes get as big around as
half dollars, I forget sometimes

959
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:55,680
that the ability to just pick up
a guitar and do doesn't apply to

960
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,800
everybody.
No.

961
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,720
I haven't been bored since I was
nine years old.

962
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,800
That else doesn't exist to me,
you know.

963
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,160
That's the beautiful thing about
Music Man.

964
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,640
And the other thing too about
the documentary.

965
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,800
It's it's it's imagine spending
41 years on the road non-stop.

966
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,000
Go, go, go.
Raising a family.

967
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Well, just 41 years on the road,
and then in that time span, you

968
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,400
only put out 13 studio albums.
So that tells you how much of

969
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,240
that time was actually truly
spent on the road.

970
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,280
And then you wake up one day and
you get out of bed, you go to

971
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,320
the couch and that's your life
for three years.

972
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
I didn't realize either what
you're going to learn in the in

973
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,560
the thing when he fell one
night, that he fell in LA and in

974
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,160
Beverly Hills, he actually broke
his neck and they went to the

975
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,000
hospital.
They went to the hospital and

976
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,880
they sent him home because all
he said they could see was

977
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,920
bruising.
So in my mind, you can expect a

978
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,080
heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy
lawsuit to be dropped against

979
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,400
the doctors that eventually, I
think personally watching it led

980
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,640
to his physical demise because
he hadn't been drinking and

981
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,200
drugging for years and years and
years.

982
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,920
No, So that's, that's one take
away that I'm interested to see

983
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,960
what you think as well as
anybody else that watches it,

984
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:34,800
what you think if that that one
incident because the doctors did

985
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400
things they didn't need to do,
according to other doctors that

986
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,000
they ended up going to and being
as old as he was, I don't think

987
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,320
that damage could have been
undone because your brain, your

988
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,520
brain, your bones, as you get
older, they get less and less.

989
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,960
They get more brittle, right,
Because we're old.

990
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,120
Sure.
So it's interesting.

991
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,080
It's definitely interesting.
It's a really, really good

992
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,480
documentary.
You're going to, you're going to

993
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,080
cry because if I cried, fucking
dude, you're going to cry

994
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,480
probably.
And yeah, yeah, the other thing

995
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,440
too, is you look at that.
And that's the one drawback.

996
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,240
Watching documentaries about
people like Ozzy, you kind of

997
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:08,920
you.
And you don't intentionally do

998
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,480
it, but you you start comparing
your life to, well, OK, well, he

999
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,440
came from shit poverty.
And then, you know, the highest

1000
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,200
selling solo artist ever, Rock.
What have I done?

1001
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,800
I just sell houses.
You know what I mean?

1002
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,200
It's that it's that weird
dichotomy in your brain.

1003
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Like, well, fuck, I'm a singer,
man.

1004
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,080
Like what the hell?
It ain't over.

1005
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,920
It ain't over yet.
Oh, I know, but I'm just saying

1006
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,520
it's that it's that it's the
thing.

1007
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,360
It's the sorrow that you just
you know if.

1008
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,880
You know exactly what you did in
those thirty years.

1009
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,160
You raised a beautiful family.
You brought 2 productive members

1010
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,840
into society.
One of them is the United States

1011
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Marine.
I mean.

1012
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,800
No, it's not, it's not, it's not
what I've accomplished as a, as

1013
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,560
a, as a, as a, you know, as a
lifelong work.

1014
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,800
It's just one of those things
that.

1015
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,400
I have those musical, yeah,
horrible moments more times than

1016
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,120
I want to admit, because.
And you know, as a musician, you

1017
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,640
have to be somewhat conceited,
right?

1018
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,080
So this is going to sound
horribly conceited, but I know

1019
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,520
what I'm capable of.
Right.

1020
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,480
Oh, no.
Absolutely.

1021
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,760
And nobody else is capable of
what you and I are.

1022
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Correct.
And nobody capable of what you

1023
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,880
and I and William and Scott
were.

1024
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Unfortunately, Scott's no longer
with us.

1025
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,440
We can't put that puzzle piece
together.

1026
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,120
But yeah, there were things that
we did musically that still

1027
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,760
speak to me today.
You know those.

1028
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,720
Yeah, I mean, right.
I can hear that song, I can

1029
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,600
picture myself playing it on
stage and meaning it at the

1030
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,040
time, right?
Yeah, yeah.

1031
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Like you should always say, we
didn't go up there and sing.

1032
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,440
Not that there's anything wrong
with the pour some sugar on me.

1033
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,880
I fucking love it as much as
anything I ever played.

1034
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,320
Right?
It's fun.

1035
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,720
But that's not who we were.
And when I was up there playing

1036
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,840
those songs, I was that
character of the song along with

1037
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,000
you.
Right, Right, Right.

1038
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,120
It meant something to me.
Just like it meant something to

1039
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,240
you.
Because the two worlds got

1040
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:04,720
melded together.
Yeah.

1041
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,320
It was no longer just a piece of
music.

1042
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,320
It was a song.
Right.

1043
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,800
It has to be played this way
because this is where the

1044
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,560
melody's.
Going to go.

1045
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,560
Yeah, agreed.
That's the beautiful thing about

1046
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:25,840
music, man.
Anything else you want to talk

1047
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:32,320
about?
Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll.

1048
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,080
So the Giants, we can talk a
little about football, right?

1049
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,120
So, you know, Giants play
tomorrow night, Thursday Night

1050
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Football or Tuesday?
Yeah, that's tomorrow night,

1051
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,960
October 9th against the Eagles.
I hate primetime football.

1052
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160
We can talk about how the NFL is
completely scripted because what

1053
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,440
was that fucking play, that last
play last night Where?

1054
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,520
The Jaguars.
Trevor Lawrence ever fell down,

1055
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,600
got back up.
Fell down.

1056
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,480
And fell down and got back up
and ran in for a touchdown and

1057
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,520
no one was 11 people on the
other side that were six feet

1058
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,480
away were not capable of coming
over and tackling.

1059
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Let's see, then you go back to
the scripted comment where Tom

1060
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Brady says, do you really think
the NFL is scripted?

1061
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Because do you really?
I would lose that.

1062
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,120
I would lose to Peyton Manning's
little brother not once, but

1063
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,120
twice.
If they paid him enough money,

1064
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,800
they're going to win that.
You're going to win every other

1065
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,600
one, Tom.
Yeah, I don't think that was 19.

1066
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,000
And oh man, I don't think
there's enough money in the

1067
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,600
world that there wasn't like
Tom.

1068
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,880
There wasn't sports betting at
the time like there.

1069
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,560
Is this is this is true?
No, I yeah, this is true for

1070
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
sure.
Yeah, it's.

1071
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Yeah, That totally sounds like
simple, man.

1072
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Well, it's the same court.
Yeah, yeah.

1073
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,600
I could learn to play that one
pretty easy.

1074
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,960
Yeah, I'm sure you could.
I can sing that one pretty good

1075
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,920
too.
I kind of, it's Shinedown the

1076
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,800
way Shinedown does it.
I, we did it before.

1077
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,240
We did it before Shinedown
released their version and when

1078
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,720
their version came out, I'm
like, motherfucker, because he

1079
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,960
and I kind of sound the same.
We have the same kind of range

1080
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,360
in the, the the Southern draw.
But yeah, when he when that,

1081
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,160
when that cover came on, I'm
like, yeah, OK, yeah, that's how

1082
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,440
I do it, you know, but I got to
pee, man.

1083
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
OK, so we can wrap it.
Oh, yeah.

1084
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,520
Go eat your burrito.
We can wrap her up.

1085
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,880
All right.
Cool.

1086
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Yeah.
Joe, we'll, we'll get you back.

1087
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680
We'll get you back on the show.
Joe or John Kerry.

1088
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,960
I'm sorry.
I don't know what happened with

1089
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Sean Valentine.
You know, we'll talk again, see

1090
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,440
if we can get you back on and
then.

1091
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Yeah, hopefully he's OK.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he is.

1092
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,000
And then I said Friday, just in
Santiago.

1093
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,560
And then Tuesday we have
Matthew, a buddy of mine from

1094
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,440
Mesa Rotary Club.
He's he's he's really cool and

1095
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,720
financial advisor guy.
But he also, he's raising money

1096
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,240
for Foster 360 and doing all
kinds of stuff, film,

1097
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,920
philanthropic key
philanthropically.

1098
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,440
So remember, boys and girls, if
you're feeling sad, so

1099
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,560
depressed, suicidal, somebody's
going to miss you.

1100
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,000
Somebody Loves You.
Don't leave a hole in their

1101
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,000
heart.
Go for a run, journal, screaming

1102
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,680
a pillow, go workout, go do 100
push ups.

1103
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Do something that will change
your mind and alter your mood

1104
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,000
for the better.
Tomorrow is always a better day,

1105
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
and it's even more so when you
wake up in it because you are

1106
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,880
loved it, just like I love Mike
Michaels here.

1107
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,080
And I love you too, brother.
And I love you too, Mike

1108
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Michaels, thank you.
And to all those that have been

1109
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,520
watching us in all 23 countries,
we truly appreciate your

1110
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,200
presence.
Without you, we wouldn't be

1111
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,200
here.
There's a sex little Nikki.

1112
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,960
So with that my my friend, we
will see you guys on Friday.

1113
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,720
Peace, dear brother.
Later.

1114
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:22,840
The you will go behind your eyes
yourself and meet yourself.

1115
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:31,440
Take a moment look at your tear
fight your battle, and tear

1116
01:01:32,360 --> 01:02:38,260
fight your battle.
The.

1117
01:02:46,700 --> 01:03:01,200
Come down here, we haven't
bounced all the exam from

1118
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,520
fighting.
Wait for the dead.

1119
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,600
Wait, it's supposed to arrive
here for the wind.

1120
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:12,520
You ain't no creature.
We don't pray and smile and you

1121
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,280
just your breath on the almighty
day.

1122
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:26,320
How to feel who in your life to
keep on soul in every man.

1123
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:32,880
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul evolution now.

1124
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:41,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

1125
01:03:47,760 --> 01:04:19,300
Take
your moment.