#147 - Classic Seger Band - Tribute to Bob Seger

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This I hear.
It we don't.

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Seriously.
You.

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Got the live button clicked.
How do?

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Should be music.
There should do you hear the

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music?
No, no.

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We don't.
Nobody hears the music but me.

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You're the only one that hears
the music.

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All right, well, you know, I'll,
I wonder if it's going to be, I

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wonder if it's going to be a
glitch in the matrix.

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Then let's see what happens.
Nope.

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It let me pause it.
Hey, boys and girls, this is

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Chris and Mike Show.
I'm Chris.

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He's Mike.
And we have Darren here.

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Who's all the way?
Where you at Darren?

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I'm in UK, Eli or Ellie UK,
which is about two hours out of

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London, and we're on tour right
now with the Classic Seger.

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Yeah, and then what's your role
in classic Seger, man?

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Are you the singer?
I'm the singer, I'm the great

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Bob Seger and we got a nine
piece band and we're having a

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great time over here.
Right now you write all the

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music, all the songs,
everything.

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Well, primary songwriter.
I wish I'd be a little bit older

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right now, but.
I love your hat, by the way.

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That's awesome muscle strolls.
Oh yeah.

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Oh, right now we, yeah, we're
very.

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Fond of that music?
Got to record there a few times

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so every time I go there I pick
a new a new you've.

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Recorded at Muscle Shoals.
Yeah, a couple Times Now we

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whenever we do a show in the
area, we always book.

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And because Bob Sneaker had a
huge history there, he record a

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lot of his music with the
swampers in the in the same

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room, same equipment.
So we just struck a relationship

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with them and we get to go.
We go there, try to go for once

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a year.
That's a pretty amazing

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building.
Have you have you ever met Bob?

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No so he lives where I live in
in Canada we're about 45 minutes

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from Detroit right on the river
not be ever heard of port here

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in Michigan.
That's where right across and so

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Bob he's still currently pretty
close and one of used to keep is

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a boat in Sarnia.
So I, I know so many people who

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have, who have mechanics in the
Marina or and he said he was the

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best guy ever and very down to
earth, but I was never, ever

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invited to the Marina to meet
him so.

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I kind of, I, I kind of feel, I
feel like he would be a very

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down to earth, just old school,
you know, leave, you know what I

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mean?
I just he, since that I've seen

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him live, he's fantastic live.
Just, and I saw his farewell

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tour and it was like he didn't
miss a beat.

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That's like I was listening to a
record, you know, aside from

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some of the little different
things he did during the songs.

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But from us, from a vocal
standpoint, he was spot on.

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Yeah.
You've seen it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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You had to have seen him live a
few times.

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Right.
Yeah, I've seen him a handful of

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times.
The first one in 9096, I think

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it was when we first came out of
his reti.

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You know, he gave it up for a
few years to spend time great

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raising his kids.
That's the.

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Tour I saw Darren.
Yeah, that was amazing.

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And Kenny Earn off was on drums,
which is a huge fan of him.

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And yeah, so that was probably
one of the best I've seen.

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And but yeah, he's very family
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You always see him in Detroit.
He's always at the Lions games

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or a Tiger game or at a concert.
He's very, he's just living

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retired and living his life.
Well, you know, what stood out

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to me was when Kid Rock inducted
him into the Rock and Roll Hall

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of.
Fame that was not amazing.

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Was just spectacular.
He talked about how he was a

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family man and how he had every
last dollar he ever made because

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he wasn't out there, you know,
living that rock'n'roll

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lifestyle or whatever.
He was just writing great songs

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and kicking ass.
Yeah, he nailed that induction

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there.
Yeah, it was pretty good.

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So you guys play music too?
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
The song you were supposed to

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hear at the beginning.
What you'll hear when you hear

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the podcast.
OK.

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That, that, that'll be our song.
OK, Yeah.

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Sometimes, sometimes you have
technical difficulties.

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But yeah, Chris and I met in the
early 90s and we played for many

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years together, wrote a lot of
songs, played with some great

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people like the Marshall Tucker
Band and Pat Travers and Tony

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McAlpine and oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, that's the classic secret

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Facebook.
What a what a backdrop, man

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Beautiful.
Not sure that is it's.

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That's rock'n'roll right there,
man.

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Yeah, that might be downtown.
The soundboard Casino in Detroit

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that might be.
It doesn't matter.

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It's badass.
Dude.

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You know what I'm?
Just trying to myself, I haven't

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seen that one a bit and that's a
that's a great.

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Such a great stage.
It's it's your cover photo on

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your Facebook page, man.
Oh yeah?

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Well.
He's like, yeah, how much I pay

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attention.
We've moved.

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On since then.
Yeah.

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Hey, let me ask you a question
real quick.

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Darren, you're out there
portraying Bob Seger.

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What kind of legalities are
involved in that?

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Are you sanctioned by his
management or?

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No, we've been pretty good.
And I mean, there's the tribute

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band is very popular right now,
so everybody's in the same boat.

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So when we sell tickets for
shows, we have to pay his

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licensing company a fee that's
set up through with a, you know,

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BMI.
So can all these various places

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and it's a percentage of the
tickets and whether Bob sees the

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money or not, but the publishing
company does.

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And that's legality.
We we do everything when we do

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videos, we have a couple of
YouTube videos out.

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We always put, you know, music
written and performed by Bob

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Seger.
And there's, I think most of the

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artists.
I've never heard any trivia band

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have any issues.
OK.

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Now that leads me to another
question though that Chris and I

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have a problem with, because
obviously we like to talk to

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musicians and we have to play
music on here.

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When you release clips of you
guys playing his music, you

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don't get any kind of copyright
problems from YouTube or is it

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because you have management that
already has that set up to pay

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those licensing fees upfront?
Do you know that answer that

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question?
It's so whenever we upload a a

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clip, YouTube does your due
diligence and obviously Bob

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Seger's publishing companies
signed off that you people, he,

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he doesn't care basically either
accounted and passed the checks.

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There's no copyright issues.
You guys are doing all the right

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things up front and he knows
that.

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And believe me when I tell you
he is getting paid by his

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publishing company.
That yeah, I'm sure, yeah.

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Does he even know he exists?
Maybe he does.

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I I'm not sure.
But you know, I'm sure his

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management knows everything's
above board anyway.

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And again, even here and in the
UK, looking at the the Ticker

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reports, yeah, that has to go to
the the, the publishing

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companies get their cut and what
more can we do?

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No, that's really cool.
I mean, you guys are doing all

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the right things.
I just asked out of my own

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selfish curiosity because, you
know, back in the day when we

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were playing cover songs in bars
and stuff like that, and Chris

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and I never did that.
We were an original band.

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But I've played well.
We did do a couple covers.

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We did Roadhouse, we did Cash
Cash Fever.

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Back then, nobody cared.
There wasn't all this.

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You know, the only way that
people are making money is

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through basically what you guys
are doing, being out there

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touring and selling tickets to
shows, right?

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Because there isn't a lot of
money on the streaming, there

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isn't a lot of people actually
buying physical copies of music.

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You got a few holdouts like
Chris who still to support the

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cause and he buys everything
from everybody and God bless

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him, right?
But I buy the whole album,

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Darren, when I go and I buy the
whole album.

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I just don't buy one song
because to me, like, like back

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in the day when we had to buy
albums right in CDs and and

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cassette tapes, you bought it
for one song and then you had

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all these surprises because the
artist would just release one

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song to get you to go buy the
record, right?

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And then sometimes the lesson
songs were right.

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So, so right, so prime example,
when Pearl Jam dropped, I think

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it was even flow.
First I was like, yeah, it's a

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decent song, but then they
dropped a live I'm like, fuck, I

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love that song.
So that probably to go buy the

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CD, which I opened the lyrics up
and from a from a vocalist

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standpoint, that's what hooked
me the lyrics because you can't

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really understand better half
the time, but the lyrics hooked

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me.
And so that's my gig.

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So I just don't want to stick
myself in a box of oh, just one

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song.
We had phenomenal dude on the

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show.
I don't we Mike and I don't know

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why this guy's not not top of
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world, because he's just
phenomenal.

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Dave Noodle.
He's got a song, The Lord of the

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Devil, that if we played it
right now, you'd be like,

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that's, that's top 20, Dave.
Noodle, right?

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Dave Noodle.
Yeah, NUDO right, but have had I

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just bought that one song, I
wouldn't have known the rest of

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his stuff.
So I bought his one of his

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albums and then that song was
just a single, but I drew to

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that song right away.
But just just cause the title,

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man, the Lord or the devil that
just spoke to me and I, I just,

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it's one of those songs, dude,
that just you, you listen to it.

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If you Google it when we're done
and and listen to it I I'd be

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shocked if you don't have the
same feeling.

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Like why isn't this guy top 10?
It's not even that.

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The rest, like the rest of his
music, is outstanding and it's

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totally great quality country
music.

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Yeah, kind of a it's kind of
Americana country.

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Rock, Yes, Yeah.
It's.

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A style he's from Idaho.
But what Chris, the reason we

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keep harping on this one song
and the reason I think you'll

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have the same feeling, Darren,
is when you hear it, it's like,

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why is this not in movies,
commercials, TV shows?

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It just has that this is America
and this is, it's almost like

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this is a what human beings
struggle with kind of song, you

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know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Good.
I'm definitely.

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Always listened looking for new
music to to listen to and and I

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miss that you were talking about
albums, buying albums and

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growing up and every paycheck
and teenager go running this in

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Canada big thing was Sam the
record band and that's where we

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went to buy the albums and.
Yeah, yeah.

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Tower Records in America.
Yeah.

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But that's how it was.
That was that was the cool thing

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about it.
And before MTV came along, then

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when you went to concert, you
still had the chills.

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You know, when when the band,
the house lights come off, you

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know, and, and you're staying in
the crowd.

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You've never seen these guys in
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All you don't know what they
look like.

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And then they're real people,
dude.

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They're real people, right?
The lights come up and the

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fucking electricity in the crowd
goes crazy.

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And you know, hands in the air
and you can't hear the first

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song because everybody's
streaming.

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Yeah.
The kid, the kids nowadays, they

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don't get that.
They don't know because it's

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you're so flooded with social
media like, you know.

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You know the set list before you
go ahead of time and and I'm

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guilty for.
That story, that.

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We are too.
I do too.

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Yeah, I do too, but still.
That's actually a subject that's

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never come up musically on this,
and Chris just nailed it.

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These kids today will never know
that feeling that the three of

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us had of standing in the middle
of that arena when the lights go

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down and you hear either the
first drum beat or the first

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guitar chord and people like
just went crazy.

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They lose their shit, man.
Yeah.

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My first concert, already 7 1/2
years old in 1977, my mom

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brought me to the Kiss and
Teenage Dude, and that was

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pretty good.
Yeah, that was that was a good

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introduction to live music.
Absolutely.

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My my my first concert.
This is embarrassing.

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Was Men At Work?
This summer.

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Well, at least Poison is
fucking, you know, they hit a

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pinnacle in the hair rug.
Like, here's a minute work

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concert.
OK, we're we're at the man

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House.
Am I down with Phoenix?

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Which is better than we're the
Colosseum.

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OK.
And I shit you not, nobody was

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standing.
It was Men At Work about, I

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don't know, half an hour, 40
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They turn on all the fucking
lights in the stadium, OK, All

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of them in the in the right.
They they drop a giant map in

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front of the drum riser.
OK, you got Colin Hayes standing

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there on his microphone pointing
to the map, telling the world

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Will Australia is.
I'm like, if this is

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rock'n'roll, I don't fucking
like it, man.

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I don't like.
It and then that next, that next

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Christmas, I think, I think my
brother got me either Kiss

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Dynasty or Destroyer.
And I'm like, oh, this is

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rock'n'roll.
Yeah.

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And then it went it went up from
there.

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But yeah, that was my first
concert.

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And then my first real concert
was Cheap Trick, which, you

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know, is much better than Men At
Work.

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So.
Oh yeah, I was, I was drugged to

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Men At Work.
Cheap Trick, right, right.

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Cheap Trick.
I willing went to go see you.

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So yeah, it's funny you say
Cheap Trick, because that's who.

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You don't have that like Mike's
point.

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I went on a tangent.
Sorry, Squirrel.

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ADHD moments while we're here,
you know?

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But I do like tribute bands.
I didn't know that what you said

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about the tribute and how you
have to pay licensing fees and

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stuff because the only.
Well, this app for sure.

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Right.
Well, because you figured the

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Van Halen tribute because they
go all over the world, right?

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Atomic punks.
Yeah.

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And I don't really.
Those are the you and classics.

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Classic secret and atomic pumps
are only two I can really think

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of from a tribute band
standpoint.

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I mean, there's that that Pink
Floyd tribute, right?

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I think what are they,
Australian Pink Floyd?

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Yeah.
Oh, we lost Aaron.

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We'll ask Darren.
He'll be back.

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He's across the ocean and he is.
Across the ocean.

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I don't know if you know this,
that the underground Internet

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cable, which is more of the
Internet than anything that runs

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underneath the ocean, got cut
not that long ago.

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So make sure there's a repair
that's keeping it going right

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now.
That might be, you know, slowing

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things down.
I noticed he wasn't uploading as

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fast as you and I.
Oh, huh.

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Is that what happened a couple
days ago?

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A couple days ago there was all
kinds of shit going on.

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Yeah.
And the last time you and I

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talked about we both had
cellular and you had Internet

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problems when you reported the
mayor that day.

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Yeah, that was right around the
time that they said there was a

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they claimed it was like a
terrorist.

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You know, somebody actually cut
it on purpose.

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Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah, You know, even like the

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Pink Floyd light show that I
went to see when I lived in

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Phoenix, they would have to pay,
obviously.

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Yeah.
Some sort of a percentage of

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their ticket sales to.
Yeah, so why we're waiting, why

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we're waiting for Darren to come
back, We would be remiss if we

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didn't talk about this.
The 30 arrests made from current

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and past players and referees in
the NBA, which is directly

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connected with the mafia for a
30 year operation of corruption.

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This is why when they brought
when they brought gambling into

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sports, I was weary.
Nobody feels more vindicated

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than steel right now because
he's literally been saying it

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since probably the late 80s or
the early 90s for sure, but that

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shit was fixed.
Well, and think about it when

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the Suns had the run with Steve
Nash, all the bullshit calls

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they got against them.
Remember when Robert Ori body

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checked him into the to the
scoring table and there was not

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a flag or not a not a not a
whistleblown right.

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So you got to look back now and
think, OK, how many of these

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championship runs are Tate?
I don't think the.

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Bull is, you know what
conversation.

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What if you think about watching
an NBA game and there's 2 1/2

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minutes left?
He always uses somewhere around

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2 1/2 minutes.
As an example, your team could

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be down by 22 points and end up
winning by 10 points.

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That doesn't happen in
basketball.

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If you're playing basketball the
way it was intended to be

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played, all you have to do is
watch college basketball.

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If you're down by 22 points with
2 1/2 minutes left, you're going

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to fucking lose.
Right.

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It's so.
It's no different than the

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Giants being ahead of the
Broncos 18 points with six

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minutes left.
There's been two NFL

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commentators come out and say
the calls.

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Look at that.
Score from the first quarter to

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the fourth quarter, it's like
Broncos 00000000 and then all of

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a sudden it's 13. 28 Yep.
And there's two NFL commentators

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that they've come out and
vocalize the fact that they

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think that the calls that were
made during that that 6 minute

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span were bullshit.
I'm sure a lot of it has to do

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with the gambling and the
numbers and the spread and shit

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like that.
I mean, I don't know cuz I don't

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really.
I don't gamble like you do, but.

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No, but we can speculate.
That's why we're here, right?

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And I, yeah, I completely agree
with your speculation.

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And there's there's becoming too
many examples.

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So now you and I within this NFL
season have talked about $1.1

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billion being bet on the Packers
money line, which was a record

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money line right for any single.
Team right, Right.

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And now we're talking about your
beloved New York Giants

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basically having the game in the
bag in any other NFL season 30

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years ago. 1602 games played
where the team is ahead by 18

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points in the fourth quarter
with less than 5 minutes left.

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Wins the game.
That was the first time it ever

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happened, correct?
Right, that was the first time

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A-Team lost.
There you go.

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What's that tell you?
This exactly?

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It's just it's I like the fact
that that this NBA stuff that's

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going on that I thought I was
going to get more out of that,

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that LeBron is is in that
conversation.

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I kind of did get a little kick
out of that myself, to be honest

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with you.
I got booted up.

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I think I'm back though.
Laflop the Queen, the king of

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Flop.
So you know.

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Here's the Here's the trouble,
though.

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Who is everybody's hero in the
NBA?

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Michael Jordan What does Michael
Jordan like to do more than

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anybody on?
Earth Gamble.

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Oh, Gamble so his.
Name is probably going to come

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out somewhere.
So here's the thing.

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I I had this full conspiracy
theory back when Jordan stepped

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away for two years.
Tell me, OK, so so because he

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gambles like crazy, we all know
he gambles like crazy, but he

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never gambled on the game.
He gambled to the golf course.

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That we know of, right?
Right, Right, right.

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Right.
Do we know?

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So I think, I think he owed
money to some bad people.

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Yes, and that's why his dad was
killed.

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Oh you and still agree on that
one too.

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Speculation.
I'm not, you know.

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We talked about that back in the
day.

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I agree with you too.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause he was found

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in a on the side of the road in
a Cadillac, right.

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And then Jordan steps away for
two years and goes plays

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baseball to take the attention
off him and then comes back

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because I'm, he paid the debt or
there was enough gap between or

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there's something with him and
the commissioner saying, hey,

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you got to step away for two
years or we're going to fuck up

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your legacy.
I love Michael Jordan.

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Yeah, I, I just there's, but
just like you.

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Asked of us.
He has some skeletons in his

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closet, right?
Right.

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There's nobody enjoyed watching
play basketball more than him.

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I wasn't a Homer Bills, the
Bulls fan.

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I, I born in Illinois.
So I've watched them, you know,

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religiously as much as I watched
the Sun.

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So it's kind of 1 and 2.
Sure.

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Me too.
But if you look back over 30

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years and all the controversies
dropped, just an NBA and there's

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people are so tired of the NBA
now, which I can I totally get.

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I haven't watched the NBA in
years.

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I gave up after Barclay and Ange
and Marley and all those guys

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are retired.
That was yeah.

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I haven't watched it since then,
literally.

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I think, I think I stopped the
year before COVID because I was

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so tired of LeBron being the
face, even though Kobe should

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have been the face because Kobe
was still alive.

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They were still just, you know,
LeBron, LeBron, LeBron.

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It just, it just changed, man.
The game changed.

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And if all these allegations are
true, This is why the game

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changed because it turned into
money.

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It turned into how can we make
money?

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How can we, how can we beat the
spread?

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I mean 30 people man from
coaches and players and and

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referees and shit.
But, you know, as people here,

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I'll play devil's advocate as
people lose their mind over all

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this, put yourself in that same
position.

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And this is what I like to call
human nature, right?

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This is what people do.
Yeah.

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And it doesn't matter what
subject you're talking about

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when you put that much money in
front of a relatively small

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group of people when we're
talking about the 7 billion

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people on the planet, Right?
Right.

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So a relatively small number of
people control the NBA in

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relation to humanity, right?
Look at the amount of money

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they're controlling.
It's just greed takes over.

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That's why it's one of the seven
deadly sins, right?

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Yeah.
It's not an accident that it's

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in that group.
So it does.

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All I'm saying is it doesn't
surprise me and it shouldn't

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surprise anybody else, believe
me.

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No, your church, your
politicians, your business, if

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they're at the level of the NBA,
they're all corrupt too.

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On some, at some level, they
just are.

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Yeah, somebody's got their hand
in the pot.

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Somebody.
Yeah, absolutely.

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It has to be.
And I think it's on a level that

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that we haven't even really
touched on yet because of, of

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what's going to go down, you
know, and no.

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I thought it was fucking crazy,
man, Just that it went that far

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and they actually got enough
evidence to say, OK, yeah, we're

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making indictments now.
Yeah, like we're fucking it up,

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man.
We're going to fuck you all up,

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which is good.
So I really think though, I

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think it doesn't stop at NBA.
Like I said, I think it goes to

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the NFLI, think it goes to
baseball.

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Of course it does.
And which is the hypocrisy of

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Pete Rose.
And that's kind of would explain

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why that was the guy Shoshana,
we didn't talk about this, but I

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don't know how to say his name,
but his.

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Yeah.
But his game where he his six

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innings pitched and three at
bats with three home runs and

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3RBI S.
So here's a fact that most

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people laughed at when they
found out that the Dodgers paid

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750 million, or 7. 100 million,
we broke it down.

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Remember, we broke it down per
bat.

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Yes, we did, lady. $76,000 per
bat.

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They've already made their money
back per Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah,

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almost double.
Right.

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Almost double.
It's crazy.

452
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,360
And look Darren's back.
Oh, you can come back, brother.

453
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,600
Did you see me come back a
minute or two ago?

454
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,120
We did.
Oh no, I've been trying to.

455
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,680
Better than you were talking
sports, I think.

456
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We, we're filling the gap

457
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,240
because you know the whole
thing, because the whole thing

458
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,760
went down yesterday.
I don't know if you know that or

459
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,400
not, but the NBA, there's 30
coaches and officials and and

460
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,400
and players past and present
that got all, all got arrested.

461
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760
Oh, I did hear something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

462
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,520
Connection with the mob and the,
you know, just the whole world's

463
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,240
fucking falling apart, man.
Massive indictment, yeah.

464
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,880
Yeah, no, that's.
That's.

465
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,600
Yeah, with the time change here,
5 hours, we're getting things

466
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,440
later.
And yeah, yeah.

467
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,200
So what time is it there?
It's, it's, it's 9:30 in the

468
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,000
morning in Arizona.
What time are you?

469
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,040
5. 30 for me and 5:30 in the
afternoon.

470
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,480
OK, Wow, wow.
OK, that's cool.

471
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Yeah, we had.
We had some people on.

472
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,160
We got a show tonight at 7:30,
so I'm looking forward to it

473
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,560
and.
Where are you playing?

474
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,400
It's called the Maltings.
The town's Ely, it's called.

475
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,160
It's a venue's called the
Maltings.

476
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,880
It's a cool little place and.
Is it like a theater or?

477
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,440
Yeah, this is more of a theater.
So last night we played in AI

478
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,400
call it a cathedral, but over
here it's just a a small church.

479
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,000
But it was to me, it was a it
was a grand one in North

480
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,760
America.
But as I'm.

481
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760
Sure, it was beautiful.
It's coming into town here.

482
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240
There was a real cathedral and
I, it was like triple the size

483
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,040
and I.
Oh, I bet.

484
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,560
I hope I have time to tour it in
the morning in the morning, but.

485
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,880
Yeah, my wife loves Old
Catholic, old Catholic stuff,

486
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,480
old Catholic churches and
things.

487
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Yeah, this one last night was
built between 1485 and like

488
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,800
1510, so it's pretty.
Yeah, it's pretty old and.

489
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,200
How long have you been doing
this, Darren?

490
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:35,160
I think we're just around 4
years.

491
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,480
Wow.
So just come in, there's put

492
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,240
together just, you know, during
the COVID stuff there, we put it

493
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,640
together and we kept on.
We had the show's book and it

494
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,760
kept on being delayed.
I think the first show got

495
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,120
delayed three times because we
couldn't get in the venues and.

496
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,080
How many shows a year are you
averaging?

497
00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:01,360
This is not so much this year we
we're shooting for 40, but I

498
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:06,240
think we're at like 30 or so of
this I, I not sure, but I think

499
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,480
this few less this year.
OK, so here I have I have a

500
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,120
picture of the band up.
Can you see that?

501
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Yes, yeah.
You want to, you want to, you

502
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,960
want to introduce your
bandmates.

503
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,000
Sure.
I think everybody, there's

504
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,800
almost everybody's in there now.
So there's myself to the guy

505
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,160
with the long hair on the one
side.

506
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,000
That's my brother Ian.
Yeah, the guy on the side of me

507
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600
is Rob McLaughlin.
He plays piano.

508
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:36,320
And then we had drummer in front
of the the Lounge beer beer

509
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,040
cooler.
There is a Steve McLaughlin.

510
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,880
He's no longer with us.
He's fantastic B3 player though.

511
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,000
And Chris Molino, the other sax
player.

512
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,200
Then you got to live Gogas
vocals.

513
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Andrew Brody does vocals and
guitar.

514
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Then Roberto Jasmonde is a
guitar player in the back

515
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,080
corner.
And everybody's, everybody's

516
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,200
great.
It was a great calm combination

517
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680
of positions and we complement
each other and.

518
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600
Nice.
Yeah, I bet you do a sound

519
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,160
justice with all those
instruments.

520
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,440
Man, yeah, that's awesome.
There you go.

521
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,200
There's with the instruments on
cue, Mike.

522
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,200
Yeah, that was good.
You got, yeah, you got the

523
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,840
backup vocals, you got the sax,
the guitars, bass.

524
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,120
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely you

525
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,280
do.
Because Sugar has such a fat

526
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,360
sound, man.
Oh, that's why I love.

527
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,200
It, I mean, yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, there's a lot of

528
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,640
personalities, don't let me tell
you, but it's.

529
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,000
Sure there is.
Sure there is.

530
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,200
That's the part of being in a
band.

531
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,840
Man, yeah, there is.
You guys would know that and

532
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,240
that.
But we know when we get on stage

533
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,120
it's, you know, put everything
beside and yeah, yeah, it's

534
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,680
great.
So what?

535
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,800
What?
What's I want?

536
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,080
I got one.
Yeah.

537
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040
What is the most received song
you guys cover?

538
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:59,080
It's got to be turn the page.
OK, OK, I figured, but I just

539
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,720
thought I'd ask.
Yeah, then then depends where

540
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800
you are.
If you go down to the Detroit

541
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,480
market where we we, we try to
play that at least once a year.

542
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,680
There's some you know that's
where Seeker got his sure God is

543
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,160
starting.
There is a lot of old time they

544
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
they do not even acknowledge a
silver bullet ban.

545
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,800
They want to hear pre we well,
we do a lot of that as well, but

546
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
and that's cool.
We're getting us more receive

547
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,840
than turn the page, but we still
have to throw in the five or

548
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,520
six.
You know the Hollywood Knights

549
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,320
turn the page.
Old time rock'n'roll against the

550
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920
winners, withdrawal to me or
impeccable thongs.

551
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Yeah, yeah, Ironically, the one
I don't like, I don't like, I

552
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,040
don't like old, old time
rock'n'roll.

553
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,200
I just, I think Tom Cruise
ruined it for me on Risky

554
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Business and I've never liked it
since.

555
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Yeah, it took, it took a few
years to get back.

556
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
We love playing it because the
sax solo, we do that, sure.

557
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Same as Seger does.
Every time I saw Seger, it's

558
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,200
like the 5th or 6th song and he
does it on purpose.

559
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,720
Does it get to place going nuts
early?

560
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,480
You'd think that would be an
encore song.

561
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,840
Yeah.
And so we well, 4 songs in,

562
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800
we're warmed up and then we do
that and that's when the place

563
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,200
just really starts going nuts
and.

564
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,440
Nice.
Yeah, it's fun to play.

565
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,800
It's a fun song to play.
I I admit it.

566
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,360
And guitar and sax solos, really
good solos in it.

567
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,680
So it just but I know what you
mean.

568
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,600
The Tom Cruise.
Movie, I think the I, yeah, I

569
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920
think, I think the logo, man,
it's kind of got the whole

570
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,920
classic car into it.
You still got the kind of

571
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,760
default.
Logos.

572
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Awesome.
The Detroit ties, if you want to

573
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440
go that far, you know it's.
Cool.

574
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Yeah, it's taken.
So if you if you get a Bob Seger

575
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
one, it's similar but different.
You know, we don't want to copy

576
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,000
it, but it's the same, same
style and yeah and yeah.

577
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Yeah, I like it.
That's all your pictures, man.

578
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,240
That's all the photos from your
cover.

579
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,480
Those were all your those were
all your cover photos over the

580
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,080
years, just so you know.
So, hey, why we got this pulled?

581
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,960
Yeah, why we got this pulled up,
boys and girls.

582
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,240
You can find them on X at
Classic Seger.

583
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,520
You can find them on Instagram
at Classic Seeger Music.

584
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000
You can e-mail them at
infoclassicseager.com.

585
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,720
And then of course, the website
isclassicseager.com, which I

586
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
kind of figured it would be, so
that's cool.

587
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,720
So here's some stuff from you
guys played this place.

588
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
I played it last night.
Really.

589
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480
You play?
That's freaking cool, dude.

590
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000
That's beautiful, that is.
Wow.

591
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Well, if you go to the next
picture, you'll see it from the

592
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,000
outside.
Oh.

593
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,280
Wow.
Wow.

594
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,120
That's amazing man, just to have
that experience is so cool.

595
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,240
Yeah, that's the church.
That's what, yeah.

596
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,920
That was last night, yeah.
He's.

597
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Right, that would be a super
upgrade in America.

598
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,160
That's fantastic, man.
Yeah, and it's all I was worried

599
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440
about the sound in that, but it
was all, if you saw that last

600
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760
picture, it's all wood.
See, there's a lot of wood in

601
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,240
there.
So it's warm and oh.

602
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,400
I bet it sounded amazing.
And after this was Ireland,

603
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Yeah, I was in Ireland.
And you all you could say, all

604
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,760
you said was all I can say
Ireland is wow.

605
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480
Did you have potatoes?
Did you get some potatoes?

606
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Because.
We had a lot of there, but they

607
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680
because they would, they came to
party.

608
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,000
It was.
Oh yeah.

609
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Oh yeah.
Compared to.

610
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Motherland loves the loves the
Guinness now the ale.

611
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640
They like to get their piss on
for sure.

612
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Yeah, we've had a few.
We had a few pints while we're

613
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,800
there and but yeah, the Dublin
crowd was so like North

614
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,960
American, like they would, they
came, they liked their concerts

615
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,600
a lot.
The Rialto.

616
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,880
Yeah, I go.
There you go.

617
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Classic Seger.
Right on.

618
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Yeah.
See, this is the cool thing

619
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,000
about Facebook, man.
We can pull it up and share your

620
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080
stuff and oh, where'd that go?
Oh, this is your.

621
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,240
Oh, this is your shows.
OK.

622
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
You'll have to be up the next
time you're in Chicago.

623
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,840
I'll come up and see you,
Darren.

624
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880
Yeah, so you're familiar with
Rialto?

625
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Oh yeah, I grew up.
Yeah, we're.

626
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Both familiar.
I just.

627
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Moved back here.
Oh man, I wish we would have

628
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,960
done this in August.
I'd have come seen you.

629
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Yeah, it was at the beautiful
venue.

630
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Like it's one of the nicest in
the in the country.

631
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Quite a few shows there.
Oh yeah, it's beautiful.

632
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Absolutely.
OK, so I'm just scrolling.

633
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,760
I'm you guys keep talking.
I'm just scrolling through the

634
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320
show so people can see it.
Yeah, yeah, I think.

635
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,520
That's are you wrapping up in
April 25th or does it take a

636
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,760
break and go back on the road?
I see it stops right here.

637
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,840
So that's oh, you're on the like
a there's more added.

638
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520
That's just all we have, OK.
And now it's good.

639
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,880
I think your screen might be
frozen dude.

640
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,720
Mine.
Yeah, cuz if you're scrolling,

641
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,160
we're not seeing you scroll
anymore.

642
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,280
You're stuck on like November.
Yeah, that's why I'm kind of was

643
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,480
wondering I'll.
Stop sharing then.

644
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,880
I'll stop sharing then.
No, you're fine.

645
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,480
I should fix No cuz I should fix
it then.

646
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960
Yeah, there you go.
You weren't.

647
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160
The screen was.
Oh, OK.

648
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,640
I just.
I just like to share.

649
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,960
You know, I'd like I told you
before, Darren, we're all about

650
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,880
sharing.
No.

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360
That's great.
Folks that are on the show, you

652
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
know.
Yeah, no, I think this is really

653
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,160
cool because this is like a
cover band on steroids right

654
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,880
here.
You're representing one person

655
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360
and you've taken it to a level
where you're playing some really

656
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,000
cool shows, man.
I mean, how many people get to

657
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720
go tour Europe as a musician on
any level?

658
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,160
That's really.
And I'm hoping so, but I'm

659
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480
putting this together as like
one of EU tribute bands.

660
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,800
I don't know any of this.
Done it.

661
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,240
I'm I've done so many calls from
other tribute bands just wanting

662
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
and I'm sure it's going to be
fun when I get back.

663
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,400
How do we do this?
How do you And I've made some

664
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,880
great contacts to you.
So I'm hoping it just paves.

665
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,680
You know, I've I've already made
mistakes on this tour coming

666
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,000
over here.
You know, you learn the next

667
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,840
time you go back, you look
smarter and sure, I'm hoping

668
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,800
that some great promoters here
that we can bring some more over

669
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760
because obviously there's
incredible musicians in North

670
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,000
America, bands, Ezra is here.
But you know what's if we can?

671
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,240
So let me ask you this.
Obviously you did it because

672
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,080
you're a huge Bob Seger fan, but
did you see a niche in the

673
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200
market that there wasn't a Bob
Seger tribute band?

674
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Is that one of the reasons you
picked it, or just more so

675
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360
because you were such a huge
fan?

676
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:15,440
I'm saying a little bit of both.
Always a huge Seeger fan and

677
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,680
there was there wasn't so
obviously from up in Canada.

678
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,040
There was only one at the time
that was doing it like I can say

679
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,800
at this level and they split for
a bit and there was and I I saw

680
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,080
that and I so I thought the and
COVID is going on.

681
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,160
So I said that there's nobody
doing in Canada too much and and

682
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,280
now they're back together that
band and they're fantastic band

683
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,320
as well.
I just I'm sure we butt heads at

684
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160
venues sometimes, but we're all
doing the, you know, doing it

685
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,240
for the same thing, playing Bob
Seger music and but the yeah,

686
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,960
there's.
Can I raise a?

687
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Suggestion.
Sure.

688
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,640
When you do your next tribute
band, because you're from Canada

689
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920
and Chris is going to turn this
into a drinking game, he knows

690
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,760
where I'm going with this every
time we talk to Canadians.

691
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Tell me about The Tragically
Hip.

692
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,720
Put one of those tribute bands
together.

693
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,840
Yeah, there's enough over here.
It's like, really?

694
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Oh, they're they're.
Dude, they are like, you have no

695
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960
idea how popular this band is in
Canada.

696
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,800
Like the Canada loves.
They have a day named after

697
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,639
them, Yeah.
They it's funny, I never took.

698
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,159
Off in the state.
They didn't never took off and

699
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,040
they I don't know if that was.
Except for me.

700
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,120
And my, except for me in my own
little world and the dude that I

701
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,360
had a friend that used to fly
around the country repairing

702
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,480
robotics equipment.
OK, he used to fly around the

703
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600
world.
So he went to Canada and he

704
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,880
actually saw The Tragically Hip
in concert back in the 80s.

705
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,920
He bought their cassette at the
time and he brought it back and

706
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920
he said, dude, you got to hear
these guys, they're right up

707
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,360
your alley.
Because I like songwriting kind

708
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,360
of bands where nobody is the
star, right?

709
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,280
The song is the star, and that's
The Tragically Hip.

710
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,920
The song is the star.
There is no star in that band.

711
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040
No other.
Than you know gourd would be for

712
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,160
you guys.
You know, Canada embraced him.

713
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,880
Yeah, they sure didn't.
He passed away a few years ago

714
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,680
now, but so I saw them first
time.

715
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,640
It used to be a bar in Sarah
called the Campbell St. station

716
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,760
where all the upcoming, you
know, the the was on the

717
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,440
rotation and The Tragically Hip
came in there on a Monday night.

718
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,280
This was before they were
anybody and.

719
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Been there, done that.
They played and we got the tape.

720
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,840
We can't find the tape that the
sound man gave us because we

721
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360
would not.
So they were doing old stone

722
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,520
stuff, the Monkeys, you know,
like you're stepping Stone and

723
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Mary Mary.
They just, I think the only

724
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,360
original they played that that
show at that time was of their

725
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,720
first album, the last American
accent.

726
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,280
There's a song, But we hung out
with them.

727
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,800
We were in the band.
They came over our house.

728
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,520
So the the the guitar player
Baker, I was kind of seeing a

729
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
girl at the time.
So he stole that girl from me

730
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,000
that night and a couple weeks
later they're getting ready to

731
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200
hit a day off.
So he hitchhiked from Toronto

732
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840
down to Sarnia, 3 hours to feed
this girl and they brought him

733
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,760
over to my house.
So we're carrying on doing doing

734
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,400
stuff all night.
Then we had to drive him back at

735
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,560
3:00 in the morning to Toronto,
get on the tour of us.

736
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,480
But that's my tragically up
story.

737
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,000
But.
That's awesome, man.

738
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,600
I bring up a band.
He has a personal story.

739
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680
I love it.
Yeah, I don't have a lot, but

740
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,360
yeah.
They're one of my favorites out

741
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,400
of Canada for sure.
Yeah, yeah.

742
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,880
They never made.
I don't know if there's their

743
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,960
management or what why they just
didn't take off the states.

744
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,720
They I know they tried.
So with the same, it was the

745
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,240
same as seeker in the early 70s,
like around Detroit.

746
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:44,840
He sold more albums than The
Beatles.

747
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,520
But then he would go and Florida
very well, but he'd go in the

748
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,200
outside the Midwest and like
you'd play in front of 30,000

749
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,600
people.
He'd trade the next day, he'd be

750
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,120
playing maybe 1000 people and
nobody That was the same with

751
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,080
the hip he was they're playing
in the Toronto say and 20,000

752
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680
people, then Chicago and
probably the luckiest 500

753
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,560
people.
I, I it's.

754
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,200
Yeah, and all that.
It was kind of it's, Yeah, it's,

755
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,280
well, I think it's just the
music because it's Alter Bridge.

756
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,640
I'm sure you've heard of Alter
Bridge, right?

757
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,920
The, the basically the, the band
Creed with Miles Kennedy as a

758
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,680
singer.
That Creed's huge in the United

759
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,840
States, right?
Creedo, Creedo fill Madison

760
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Square Garden three nights in a
row.

761
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,400
No problem.
Alter Bridge will play a 2500

762
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,800
seat venue here and pack it.
Then they'll go overseas and

763
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,800
they'll sell out Wembley three
nights in a row.

764
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,480
So what's the difference between
Alter Bridge and Creed?

765
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,240
It's just a vocalist.
Miles is a better singer in my

766
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,680
opinion.
Stabs a little, you know, office

767
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,240
rocker, which is cool because I
love Creed.

768
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:43,160
When they came out because our
band was, we people ask what we

769
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,440
sounded like.
I was like, well, we always, we

770
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,760
were kind of Creed before Creed
was Creed just from the writing

771
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,320
standpoint and lyrically.
And I had a better range than

772
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280
stop.
But it's it's it makes no, it

773
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680
doesn't make any sense, right?
Because you have the exact same

774
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160
core musicians, just Miles
Kennedy, who has a better voice,

775
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
better range, and can do a lot
more vocally than Stop could

776
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,360
ever do.
But in the United States,

777
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,200
they're just like, yeah, OK, you
know, 5-10, maybe 15,000 seat

778
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,360
venues.
But overseas they venues.

779
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360
But you know as well as I do
that it timing is everything,

780
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,600
man.
Oh, absolutely.

781
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Chris is right.
And I wear this with a badge of

782
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,080
honor and I have for a long
time.

783
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,760
We had their idea long before
they did.

784
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,840
We also, I also had the idea of
Evanescence long before they

785
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,640
did.
They got there before I did,

786
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,160
right?
I said if you take a kick ass

787
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,760
tight metal band and you put a
beautiful woman with a great

788
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,400
voice in front of that band,
it'll sell like hot cake.

789
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,600
Yeah, it's good.
So in the middle of the grunge

790
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
revolution, Chris and I were
like, if we just play straight

791
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,240
ahead rock'n'roll, people are
going to eat it up because

792
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,640
they're going to miss it at some
point.

793
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,800
And they did.
So timing is everything too

794
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,160
right?
Yeah, Yep.

795
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,320
And, and the fact that we wrote
how we wrote, we didn't write.

796
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,120
We write like like how Bob
Singer writes.

797
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,040
It's life.
You don't it's not a lot about

798
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,200
getting laid and partying.
And you know, it was we wrote

799
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,720
about life.
Everything that I wrote about

800
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,920
lyrically had had had reason
behind it and substance behind

801
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,760
it was just, you know, it
wasn't, you know, we weren't Van

802
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,280
Halen lyrically, right?
You know, we're beautiful girls

803
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,640
and shit because Van Halen did
that.

804
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,840
Yeah.
You don't need another Van

805
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,280
Halen.
We always say there's nothing

806
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,120
wrong with that.
We love listening to that as

807
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,840
much as.
Anybody.

808
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,080
We wanted to say that if you
really listen dive into Bob

809
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Seger songs.
He was talking about getting

810
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,640
laid a lot.
He.

811
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,320
Oh, he is.
He is.

812
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640
But the way he does it, yes,
right.

813
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,960
That's what I'm saying.
Kind of like Bob Scott did in

814
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,240
ACDC.
It was very innuendo when he was

815
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,280
in the band.
And then if you think about it,

816
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,520
when Brian Johnson came in, the
man, they were like, fuck it,

817
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,920
we'll just say this is what
we're doing.

818
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Right, Right.
Right.

819
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,000
But I always appreciated Bond
Scott's innuendos, just like Bob

820
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,320
Seger's innuendos.
Like the song that would get me

821
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,160
going for Bob Seger, if you play
that one, is her strut.

822
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,680
I love that, too.
Yeah, that's the attitude of I'm

823
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,080
going to get that chick without
being gross about it.

824
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,320
Right.
Yeah, that's a good song.

825
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Yeah, we're not doing that over
here now, but we do that quite a

826
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,960
bit.
That's a great song.

827
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200
But.
Tell the boys you're going to

828
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,440
throw it in the set list
tonight.

829
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,760
For we could.
We could, yeah.

830
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,200
I like that one.
It yeah, got a great groove to

831
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,320
it.
Yeah.

832
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Excellent guitar.
Like I'm a guitar player, so I'm

833
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440
going to gravitate towards a
really cool guitar parts.

834
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,440
Yeah, that's one of the heavier
one that's from Against the

835
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Window.
I'm thinking that's one of the

836
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,360
heavier songs on it and.
For sure.

837
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,240
Yeah.
The one that would, the one that

838
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,000
really makes my hair stand on
end is Night Moves.

839
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000
And just because I was a kid
during that time when that came

840
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,960
out and you were at that, we
were all at that age, you know,

841
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,800
that he was talking about it.
Just I love the feel of that.

842
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,680
We always talk about the space
between the notes, right?

843
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,800
There's so much space in that
song.

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,040
It just, I don't know, it's one
of those perfection kind of

845
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,800
moments, you know?
Yeah.

846
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000
So yeah, he recorded that one in
Toronto, that song.

847
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,640
The rest of the album was done
in Muscle Shoals we talked

848
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:08,800
about, but he Jack Richardson
was a famous producer out of

849
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,760
Toronto.
He worked with guess I guess who

850
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,920
anybody like you the list and
they they just wanted to change

851
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,720
up.
So he went drove all the Toronto

852
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,760
to meet him and he's a started
strumming that he said this is a

853
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,640
song we're going to work
tonight.

854
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,320
So he didn't.
One night he brought positions

855
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,000
back in, never met Seeger, any
of them, and they recorded that

856
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880
and drawn A1 night.
Then he drove back-to-back to

857
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,120
the States and that was the
biggest song, that's what.

858
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,480
That's crazy.
I don't.

859
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Know that's what made it for
him, yeah.

860
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,840
Night Moves is the one that
broke him out.

861
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,480
Yeah, so live bullet album.
Right on.

862
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Yeah, the live album came out in
76.

863
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Yeah, my bullet and that started
to get some traction and then

864
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,560
about six months later, Night
Moves album came out and that's

865
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,280
just and this that song
particular and then it all says

866
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,600
rock Main Street on it.
Rock'n'roll never forgets.

867
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,920
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Main Street's the

868
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,840
coolest song.
Oh yeah, yeah.

869
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Yeah, there's another one that
just the space between the

870
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,800
notes, you know?
Yeah, keep it.

871
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Keeps you lulling along with the
tune all the time.

872
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Yeah.
So that's one of the ones we

873
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,480
when we first found it, which
Muscle Shoals we played, we

874
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,440
record.
And then you had that stents at

875
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,640
the same piano, some of the and
this song probably was not

876
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
played in this room again since
1975.

877
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,000
And you just, it was just, you
know, it's a nerd musician

878
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800
moment, I guess, but.
Well, there's a great no.

879
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,560
There's a great example talking
about a nerd musician moment.

880
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,040
If you speed that song up, even
like two or three beats a

881
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,800
minute, it would ruin the whole
song.

882
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,880
That's a great example.
For musicians and songwriters,

883
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,560
tempo is everything.
Right.

884
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,800
Yeah, it's having a great,
having a great producer with

885
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,280
him, Punk, Punk.
Andrews was always his manager

886
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,960
and producer and they had the
right people.

887
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,480
You need somebody listening for
that, you know, make sure you're

888
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,600
And I'm sure he had his own.
He knew that himself as well.

889
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,200
But you're 100% right.
That's what it ruined that song.

890
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,760
Yeah, I'm one of those musicians
who I've always been open to

891
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,440
constructive criticism because
I, you know, I just, I know I

892
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080
don't know it all.
And I count on those people that

893
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Chris will say that sometimes
when we're writing songs, it's

894
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,720
like it's either too fast or too
slow.

895
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,920
I need you to speed it up, man.
I'm running out of air.

896
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,960
You know, he'll make a joke
about it instead of, you know,

897
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960
there was no egos in our band.
So instead of being an asshole

898
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920
about things, we would just say
it in a funny way.

899
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,960
He's like, you got to get
through that section a little

900
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,640
faster.
I'd, you know, I've only got so

901
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,280
much breath.
I'm a human being, you know?

902
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Yeah, Yeah.
No doubt, no doubt.

903
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,360
Yeah, so how, how many more
dates do you have left on this

904
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,240
tour?
I think we have 7 shows left

905
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,280
while we're here in a week and
1/2.

906
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,080
So it's a lot.
It's busy.

907
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,320
And the coolest thing though,
and it's coming up on Monday, we

908
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,880
get to read, we're talking about
being able to record their

909
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Muscle Shoals.
I think this trump's out for us

910
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,640
nerve positions and we get to
record at Abbey Road Studio now

911
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,320
and Studio 2.
So when you go record, like when

912
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,000
you record a Muscle Shoals and
now you're going to record at

913
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Abbey Road, what are you?
What are you recording?

914
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,440
You just doing covers, are you?
Doing we're just doing seeker

915
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,760
promo, we're doing our promos
and do videos and I don't care

916
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,680
for recording there.
I just want to sit in that room.

917
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,800
That's so.
Cool, I'm with you man.

918
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Just a nerd.
Look at the gear.

919
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,720
Hey turn everything on, I want
to see the light.

920
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,760
Yeah, but that's a lot of the
same equipment.

921
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,840
And studio, Studio 2, that's the
The Beatles one.

922
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
That's where they recorded 99%
of the stuff.

923
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,080
And right on, they said if that
one was booked, this is months

924
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,320
ago, they said if you can't have
that one, we can offer you

925
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,280
Studio 3.
And I'm looking at that wall.

926
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,920
That's where Dark Side of the
Moon was next and recorded.

927
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,960
So that would have been a good
second.

928
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
There was a show that I used to
watch.

929
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,320
I don't, I can't find anymore.
It's called the it's, it was

930
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,920
called Inside Abbey Road.
And they would have.

931
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,320
They would have.
That's how I was introduced to

932
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Damien Rice.
Do you know who Damien?

933
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Rice.
Yeah, I know the name.

934
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,520
Yeah, OK.
Irish, Irish singer.

935
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,240
He's fantastic.
Do you?

936
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Oh, what the hell is his name?
I'm going to butcher the name

937
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,880
Gerardo Clay or something.
A really cool soul RB guy, but

938
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,800
had a rock hit flip to it.
Goo Goo Dolls was in there.

939
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,520
It was one of those things I
like watching.

940
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Not so much rock humidities, but
I like, I like like I could, I

941
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,240
could.
Mike and I have talked about

942
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,280
there needs to be a streaming
platform with just access to all

943
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,680
the musicians, all their stuff,
all their videos, their tours,

944
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,040
all the genres of music.
Just like an MTV on steroids,

945
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,840
because MTV sucks ass now.
But it's just something where

946
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,840
you could dial up.
Like you can go to YouTube Music

947
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,840
and I can dial up shit, but it'd
be cool just to have Alphabet

948
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Cadillac boom.
But it was really cool, just

949
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,160
music.
Right.

950
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,720
But it was really cool because
you were inside the studio,

951
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,080
right inside Abbey Road.
And they would show the whole

952
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,360
studio sounds, Then the bands
would they'd play a song and

953
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,840
then they would talk about the
studio experience and talk about

954
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680
the song.
They'd only do like 3 songs and

955
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520
it was usually two or three
bands per the, the, the 40

956
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,040
minute episode and they'd all
play two or three songs.

957
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,360
But it's really cool because you
could just kind of you could see

958
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,080
as a viewer the impact that
being in that space has on them

959
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,200
because it's like so much
history, so much music has come

960
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
out of that building over the
years and the spirits that's got

961
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,400
to be in there and the vibe and
just because that's the biggest

962
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840
thing about us two years, right?
The vibe and the and and just

963
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,680
how you feel when you walk in
and just, you know, it's like

964
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,240
the first time we played the
Mason drug this place in in in

965
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,840
Phoenix.
I didn't realize that Pearl Jam

966
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,440
was on the stage and I'm they
have these photos all over the

967
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200
all over the bar inside and of
the bands that played.

968
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,360
And so before the show, I was
walking around and looking at

969
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,720
the band.
My holy shit, Eve, Eddie stood

970
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,240
there, you know, and at the time
Eddie Vedder was one of my vocal

971
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,200
like, Oh, so that one.
Went through there, Nirvana went

972
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520
through there, Tool went through
there just.

973
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,240
Amazing.
Huge bands that went on to sell

974
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,840
millions and millions of
records.

975
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,360
Yeah, and you can you and you
feel that, right?

976
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,240
You feel the vibe, you feel the
like when when my last band is

977
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:13,000
and we recorded 4 songs at Dolly
Parton studio in Nashville and

978
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,760
you walked in and you just, you
just knew.

979
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Like holy shit, there's the
hallway between the the vocal

980
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,480
booth and the the band part
because everything was recorded

981
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,640
live and and the producers room,
you know the boards and shit.

982
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,160
The whole hallway was written
and autographed and signed.

983
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:30,200
Yeah, I love that.
And and and you can't recognize

984
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,600
some of the signatures right,
because you're sloppy, but you

985
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,000
know I can I see my hand, my
signatures on a wall in Dolly

986
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Parton pseudo.
But it was just so you just felt

987
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
it right.
You just you just felt like this

988
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,520
place is just you're just like
something's going to happen

989
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,760
here.
That's bad ass because you're in

990
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,320
this element where all these
creative juices have gone

991
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,280
through and they've and they've
left a piece of their soul on

992
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,440
the wall and that just bleeds
into everything.

993
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Cheesy, I know, but that's.
Just no, I exactly know.

994
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,680
Yeah, Less if we record on
Monday.

995
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,120
I just want to be in that room
and look at the yeah.

996
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,960
Yeah, just laying the floor
like, oh.

997
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,800
Yeah.
And that those are some, those

998
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,160
are feelings only a musician can
understand, right?

999
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,880
Because if somebody who has has
not put the passion of a

1000
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,360
lifetime into music that the
three of us have, they would

1001
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,280
just be standing there going
well, yeah, I mean it.

1002
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,360
It's cool.
But.

1003
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Yeah, but like my wife, my wife
brought her about.

1004
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,720
I'm pointing, you know, I'm a
little kid and she's.

1005
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,480
Yeah, that's cool.
That's that's something you're

1006
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080
staying on a carpet, you know?
Interesting.

1007
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,160
Yeah, that's.
Awesome.

1008
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,920
Yeah, but you got to be nerds
about something, and there's

1009
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,200
worse things.
There is, absolutely, yeah.

1010
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,240
Yeah, so it sounds a healthy
addiction.

1011
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,800
It is.
So what's the future for Classic

1012
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,520
Seger Darren?
We're just booked.

1013
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:57,880
We're booked just starting into
2027 and wow, we're just, as I

1014
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,680
mentioned, we talked about Night
Moves album and I mentioned a

1015
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,920
live bullet.
They both turned 50 next year.

1016
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,800
So we're doing some, we're going
to do some dedicated shows of

1017
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:15,480
just doing those albums and just
switch it up a bit and just see

1018
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,560
what happens.
Yeah, we're just booking and

1019
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,680
cool.
I'm going as long as we can.

1020
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,400
We don't know if we're done
tomorrow or we're just going to

1021
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,040
go as long as we can.
So is this all your guys's full

1022
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,200
time jobs or do you plan this
around jobs that you have?

1023
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:41,320
Most little of both.
A lot of people are retired and

1024
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,760
some of us like myself with all
we do and a few people have jobs

1025
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,040
that they can book around.
OK.

1026
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,720
So with we we give as much
notice and we we play with sub

1027
00:49:53,720 --> 00:50:00,040
positions as well that fill in.
So if we have enough time, and I

1028
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
think we've used almost
everybody, you know, if we need

1029
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,240
a guitar player can't make it,
we have musicians as know the

1030
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,640
material that sets in so.
Well, I was just curious because

1031
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,880
it seems like at the level you
guys are playing it, it wouldn't

1032
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680
be a full time job for most of
you at least, yeah.

1033
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,320
It it is and but you know,
people have family vacation

1034
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,240
stuff too.
So yeah, we just, it's very

1035
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,520
common that we use a sub player
and we prefer the original guys

1036
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,160
obviously and it's because.
Yeah, you get used to playing

1037
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,440
with the same guys, right?
Sure.

1038
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960
But it's fun playing with new
people too, so.

1039
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,640
Sure.
Yeah, yeah.

1040
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,400
So I'm I'm I'm showing your
website as you guys are talking.

1041
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
So I'm on the I'm on the the
song list.

1042
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,000
So these.
Are beautiful loser.

1043
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Come on, how did I forget?
That Yeah, right, right against

1044
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,360
the win down below.
Yeah.

1045
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
See, there's another one Chevy
could have ruined against the.

1046
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,600
Wind for everybody.
Don't let them do that.

1047
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Roll me away.
Roll me away.

1048
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,800
Roll me away.
Fantastic song.

1049
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Yeah, that's one of my
favorites.

1050
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,320
Yeah, Romeo Way's pretty.
I mean, you were talking about

1051
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,600
the biggest, that one very well
well known song and right,

1052
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,360
right, OK, so.
I see one there.

1053
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,760
Hold on one second, OK.
Give me your opinion on

1054
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,680
Shakedown.
Amazing song to play our.

1055
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Guitar player just shreds in it.
You got to listen to the you got

1056
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,760
to listen to the live version.
Is that the Yeah, there's a live

1057
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,680
version that he does.
It's different from the Beverly

1058
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Hills Cop.
It's, you know, it's yeah, he

1059
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,680
played yeah when he played Shake
down here.

1060
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,400
On the on his farewell concert
that that did it got the crowd

1061
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,000
rolling.
Strut was funny.

1062
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,120
The story is sold.
He told about her strut.

1063
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,080
He didn't realize that was being
being played in the strip clubs.

1064
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
And then in the year that they
came out, one of the 80s, I, I

1065
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,800
want to say 88, don't quote me.
He won a Grammy or something for

1066
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,960
that or American some some award
based on that as they had the

1067
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,480
most plays on the radio or
something.

1068
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,440
And so when he's talking about
it to the crowd, he's like, he's

1069
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,120
explaining all that and you
know, we're like, what song is

1070
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,560
he talking about?
And then he's like, I'd love to

1071
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,560
watch her struts, you know, and
but they made sense, right?

1072
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,040
But stripper picks up that song.
Absolutely.

1073
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,840
What are they doing?
They're strutting.

1074
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,360
Oh, the great roof word too, so
I may.

1075
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,040
Not have heard that song in a
strip club.

1076
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,240
Myself, right?
We may or we may or may not

1077
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:26,560
have.
Yeah.

1078
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,400
That song just needs to be
updated.

1079
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,760
I'm glad you showed that.
You're welcome.

1080
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,320
I'm here to help Darren.
A lot of new stuff we.

1081
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,680
We do other than that.
He provides a great public

1082
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,440
service, Darren.
Yeah.

1083
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,360
Yeah, I'm here to help.
You gonna send me the?

1084
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,240
Bill.
Mate, no.

1085
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:45,080
Not at all.
Just you ever come to Arizona?

1086
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,800
Reach out and I'll bring the
wife.

1087
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,240
We'll check you guys out.
Absolutely.

1088
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,960
You ever go to Chicago?
Reach out to Mike.

1089
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,400
We'll love that.
Come hang out.

1090
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,920
Yeah.
You know, this is.

1091
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080
That's the cool thing about this
is I really.

1092
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,760
Hope that you know, I know you
guys are going to keep playing

1093
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,480
so when you come back around
again, if you're near Chicago or

1094
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,800
Peoria, it's cool to be able to
come out and see you guys.

1095
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,120
You know, we've had comedians
and musicians and really like to

1096
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,320
pay back, you know, and 100% you
guys do definitely.

1097
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,840
Make it happen.
And yeah, it's too bad we

1098
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,080
didn't.
Like you said, we just played

1099
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,480
outside Chicago there last
month.

1100
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,640
That would have worked out fine.
Yeah, it's crazy.

1101
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,480
That picture is that recent.
That's awesome.

1102
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,600
That stage is.
Just and there's and there's my

1103
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,240
favorite one.
And that's how we're going to,

1104
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,560
that's how we're going to wrap
this puppy up, boys and girls.

1105
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,360
That's Darren from Classic
Seger.

1106
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Check them out.
Classic segerband.com.

1107
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,440
They're booking shows and
playing shows until 2027.

1108
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,800
They're going to start doing
some 50 anniversary tours

1109
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,800
related to night moves and the
live the live bullet, correct?

1110
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,640
Correct.
Yeah, correct.

1111
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,880
So.
We wrap up every show like this.

1112
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,320
If you're feeling sad, depressed
or suicidal, don't do it.

1113
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,040
Go scream at a pillow.
Go run, go journal, go work out.

1114
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,520
Call somebody.
If you can't get a hold of

1115
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000
somebody, text 988.
Someone will miss you.

1116
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,920
You will leave a hole in
someone's heart because someone

1117
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,000
does love you and care about
you.

1118
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,360
And tomorrow is a better day
with you waking up in it for the

1119
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,440
Chris and Mike show.
I'm Chris.

1120
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,280
He's Mike and that's Darren from
classic Seger.

1121
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Check them out live.
I'm sure you'll be blown away.

1122
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,880
Super nice guy.
We love to have you on the show

1123
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
when you come back to the States
sometime in the next in 2026.

1124
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,640
Let's get you back on and and we
can talk more about your your

1125
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,360
European Tour and how fantastic
it was.

1126
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Sound sound like a plan.
That sounds awesome.

1127
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,600
Appreciate it.
Guys, thanks again for coming.

1128
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,320
On Darren, appreciate it.
Thanks.

1129
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Peace.
Love you brother, love you to

1130
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,000
your brother.
Peace.

1131
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,920
Behind.
Your eyes take.

1132
00:55:03,910 --> 00:56:41,060
A moment.
Come down here, we haven't found

1133
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:49,060
salad and sand from fighting.
Wait for the dead when it's

1134
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:53,860
closure out of the wind.
You ain't no creaser.

1135
00:56:54,820 --> 00:56:58,520
We'll play and smile.
You could you put on the

1136
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,880
almighty day.
You got a dream true in your

1137
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:09,880
life to keep a soul in every
man.

1138
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul evolution now.

1139
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:24,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1140
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Take a moment.
Look at you.

1141
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,520
See you, see you fight the
battle into you more clear.

1142
00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:00,610
You gotta.
You gotta.

1143
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:02,930
You gotta.
You gotta.

1144
00:58:03,010 --> 00:58:03,930
You gotta.