#152 - Joe Gallagher Jr. - Entrepreneur/Musician/Chef

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Up, boys and girls.

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It's the Christmas Mike show.
We got Chef Giuseppe, He's

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liking the music.
You need to have this in your

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kitchen, dude.
Get some, get some Hard Rock

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grub coming.
So there you go.

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I'm the Chris, the Mike Shore.
I'm Chris.

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He's Mike.
This is chef Giuseppe and this

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is cool because you're the first
person we've had on the show

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that is not a musician is is not
a coach, is not a health nut, is

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not a like AI don't know.
I we've had everything but model

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somebody like you on the show.
We've had entrepreneurs, right,

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but not somebody who, who, who
you've taken your, your love for

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food, right, and turn it into
something more.

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I'm going to tell you something
right now.

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So in 2019, in 2019, I was in
contention for a Grammy

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nomination for best new rock
artist, got hit by a truck, had

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two spinal surgeries, and my
life went down the toilet.

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Yeah, so back.
To hide my prayer, yeah.

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Yeah.
Back that up, man, Back that.

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Truck right up and start with
how?

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What did you play?
What kind of Yeah.

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What was the name of the band?
You were a rock artist like Lay

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Us.
Some background for that you

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can't lead with.
That sure, sure.

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Yeah, what was, what was, what
was the name of the band?

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I I was in a few, I was in a
few, but it was most the Grammy

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and content.
I was in contention for a Grammy

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nomination in 2019.
So my name was on a ballot.

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Big Noise records, the hit
cartel Al Gomes put me up right.

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And it was for an album.
It was a single on an album

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called Side Effects that was
produced by OB, who's LL Cool JS

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Godson and he he worked with a
bunch of rappers.

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This was his first rap album or
a rock album.

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But I've written 2500 songs in
10 different genres since the

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age of 15.
Shit, dude.

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Dude, you're right with us, man.
I would I would go down to pull

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my lyric book out, but but it
we'd be here all day.

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Yeah, I got stacks and stacks,
but but yeah, I just got feeling

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back in my hands about a year,
two years ago.

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What do you play?
What's your main answer?

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Acoustic guitar, you know, I'm
saying I'm a lead vocalist, but

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I can't do that anymore either.
They they cut the, the

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surgeries, they had to cut
through the front of my neck and

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move my vocal cords and I can't,
I just can't hang in it.

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Wow.
Man, that sucks.

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I want.
To find.

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You a little machine, but I
can't find you.

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Yeah, I like Joe Gallagher.
I like to share.

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Joe Gallagher junior, You know,
I was OK.

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Joe Gallagher Junior.
Yeah, that's my, that was my

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name.
I I also go by Joe Virgo and

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then Atlas Star.
Atlas Star Records.

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I had a record company for a
little while.

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OK, there we are.
OK, because I like this, I like

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to share this stuff so people
can, can recognize the fact that

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you're not talking out of your
ass, you know, I mean, if you

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know, because we do, I do with
all our guests though, because

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it's, it's again, it's about,
it's about showcasing you and

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what you do.
So, so here's you type in Joe

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Gallagher Junior on the Google
machine and this is what we get

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all this, all this stuff.
So there's your songs, there's

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your songs.
Yeah, quite a, quite A and so

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that was the album.
No.

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So the album Side Effects got
taken down by the record label

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because I owed them $40,000.
So they they fronted me two

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albums.
Yeah.

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Well, no, no, man, Listen, this
is it.

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This he was my best friend.
I mean, I still to this day,

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we're great friends.
But what happened was I got into

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that car accident and they
fronted the albums.

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And, you know, we were thinking
there's going to be a

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settlement, you know, because it
wasn't my fault I was

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rear-ended.
And that that ended up taking

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four years to go to trial.
And I I didn't, I didn't get a

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dime.
Wow.

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So they, they shelf the whole
project.

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Yeah.
That.

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Sucks so all the music.
All the thing happened to me in

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1998.
Really.

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Yeah, luckily I didn't get
disabled out of it.

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I ended up with two crushed
discs in my neck.

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Chris has the same injury.
My mom has the same injury.

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It didn't disable me, but it
definitely changed my way of

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life.
So I I feel for you not being

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able to play it man.
Yeah, yeah.

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So I mean, I'm on the praise
team at church now and I can do,

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I, I could do small doses, you
know, like 3 songs and I'm, I'm,

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I'm hit, you know, I'm.
So you can still play a guitar,

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you just can't.
I can't.

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Sing I I can sing too, but
again, my dexterity and stamina

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is just not there.
You know, I get I get pain,

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sharp pains and I start losing
feeling in my hands again, cramp

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up so.
What happened when you were in

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the accident?
Like what was your physical

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injuries?
So I had I had my C6 and seven

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fused and L45 fused.
Jesus.

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Yeah, yeah, I was rear-ended at
a red light.

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A guy was on a cell phone, hit
me at like 5560 miles an hour.

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I was on the 2O2 in Arizona and
I got rear-ended by an asphalt

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truck.
Oh.

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Really.
Wow.

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He was looking at his radio.
He never hit the brakes, man.

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He pushed my trunk all the way
into my back seat.

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Yeah, same that, That's that
sounds like, yeah.

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Mine's, mine's boring.
I was just born 2 1/2 months

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early and premature.
So they pumped me full of

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steroids and shit and hoped that
they could, you know, keep me

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alive.
And that caused my third and 4th

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vertebrae to fuse together,
which then over time, the five

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and six weren't getting the
proper fluid.

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So that's in 2014.
I had the surgery, the little

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Peyton Manning surgery scar.
Yeah, yeah.

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They drum, they drumbled it
down, took out one of the one of

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the things, put a Lego screw in
there and.

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You know.
Hey.

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We're we're bionic men, right?
Yes, yes.

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Half robot, half robot.
Exactly, I just whisked out and

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I deal with the pain everyday
so.

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Right.
That's OK, Somebody's got to be

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the tough guy.
Well, I, I got hooked.

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I got hooked on painkillers.
So after, after that, I went

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down a really dark path, man,
and got, got out of the got out

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of the hospital.
And about two weeks later, I, I

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just started to be able to walk
again and I got into an

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altercation.
I drove a drunk guy home, you

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know, being a Good Samaritan.
Yeah, get to the get to his

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trailer park.
And him and his roommate tried

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robbing me.
I defended myself.

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I got charged with attempted
murder.

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What the Frick man?
Yeah, you ended up getting

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charged with the jars, Yeah.
That was my. 1st to do my first

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arrest.
Yeah, my first arrest, yeah.

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Oh my, well, you know, if you're
going to get arrested the first

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time, you might as well do it
with some power, you know,

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conviction, right?
Like Jay, no conviction.

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That's, that's not cool.
Let's just go with the attempted

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murder, you know, 'cause it's a
good starting point.

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I mean, I would.
I wish it, I wish it sounded

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bad.
I wish it was badass, but it

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wasn't.
I was survival.

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I was in survival mode.
And I mean, and I didn't get

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convicted because, you know, it,
it wasn't, you know, bullshit.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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What does that end up happening?
What?

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What did they do?
Just railroad.

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You So what well, what happened
was so I'm getting robbed.

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They took my wallet, my keys, my
phone right and I had AI

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happened just happened to have a
2 inch pocket knife on me.

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I never carried a weapon.
You know, I used to fight in the

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street, like if I'm going to
fight, it's going to be with my

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hands, you know, and I, I, but
for some reason, something was

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telling me to have something
when I, I went out to that bar

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that night and, and you know, I,
I base, I almost cut my whole

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finger off my fingers dangling.
There's blood everywhere.

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I cut him, I gave him a little
paper cut out of his arm.

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He didn't even press charges,
but there's blood everywhere.

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I'm holding the knife.
There's a guy stripped down

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naked.
I lost the other guy.

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He went into another room and
that's why this all went down,

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because I thought he's going to
get a shotgun or something.

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So, you know, I was holding the
big guy down and the cops showed

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up.
I had the knife in my hand.

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There's blood everywhere.
OK, understood.

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Victim circumstance.
Yeah, Yep.

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Pretty much.
Yep.

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Damn man, that sucked.
That's.

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Great.
It was like.

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Like so you got straight up
arrested, everything booked, you

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know?
Yeah, so I was had a $50,000

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bond.
I was in jail for like 10-15

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days, something like that.
My father bombed me out.

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I promised on everything I'd
never get in trouble again.

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You know, I'd never drank again.
I'd never and when in a month or

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two I'm getting my first DUI and
then then a reckless Dr. and

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then a hit and run and and then
ADV 2, which is what end up

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bringing me to my knees and
finally get me to surrender and

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just say, you know, in the
middle of jail cell drop to my

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knees.
Pray to God, hey, you know, I

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can't do this anymore.
I need help, you know.

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So, so tell us, give us a little
more insight as far as how old

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were you?
So when all this happened, I

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think I was like 37, maybe 3637,
OK, somewhere on there.

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OK, and this is post accident,
post get rear end of where your

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life went down a yeah there.
And that's when you got hooked

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on the on the on the painkillers
and stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.
I was suicidal.

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I was.
Yeah, yeah.

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I was I was suicidal, man.
I'm, I mean, my identity, my

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whole life and identity was, was
tied into being a famous music,

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music.
I sympathize, man.

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Yeah, we went down the same path
for sure.

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We did.
We're we're vibing right now,

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dude.
Yeah, and it comes with the

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territory.
You don't live fast, die young,

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rocks our mentality, you know,
And that was me.

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And and then I had to get
stopped in my tracks.

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I was living too fast.
And I was going to die young if

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I didn't have to, if I didn't
slow down.

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But here's The funny thing.
We were all on the right path

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until, at least in Uran Ice
case, pharmaceutical companies

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got us addicted to drugs before
we did that for ourselves.

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I learned that on this podcast.
I had my timeline screwed up,

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right as we talked my journey
through, I realized I became

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addicted to painkillers before I
became addicted to anything.

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You know, we might smoke some
pot before we went on stage.

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My drummer and I, Chris, might
have a shot and a beer, but we

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weren't hammered when we went up
there.

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We wanted to enjoy it.
We loved what we did, just like

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you're talking about.
So it wasn't like we were

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smashed going up there.
We had a little buzz and we went

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and had a good time.
Oh, I, I was getting smacked

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when I was out there playing in
the car, in the bars and the

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clubs and everything.
I was getting smashed.

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I mean, I don't remember half
those nights.

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I did a lot of that afterwards,
but I never was in that shape on

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stage because I couldn't play
drunk.

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No, no.
I.

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Wasn't one of those guys that
could do that.

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I could smoke a joint and I'd be
fine, but to down 7-8 beers and

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go up on stage, my timing be all
fucked up.

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And we put ourselves on being
tight and I know there's guys

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that can get up there and do
that, but we just weren't back

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then.
We weren't interested in doing

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that anyway.
Like I said, we just wanted to

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maybe feel good for a couple
minutes before we went on stage,

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take the edge off and you know,
maybe afterwards.

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These guys had women and wives
and kids back in the day.

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I was single.
I had a good time afterwards,

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but never during.
I went home.

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I I hung up for maybe 1/2 an
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So then I went home because, you
know, we just, you know, I had a

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little girl and my wife and my
wife and I are still together 31

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years later.
And Congrats.

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It is what it is, you know?
Thank you.

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And I didn't become an alcoholic
till well after the music.

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I mean, it was well after, yeah.
It was just a life cycle, which

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when this went about me, we're
talking to you.

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But people heard my story
before, so it's all good.

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So you go from from I'm going to
be a rock star.

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I get nominated for Grammy, I
get rear-ended.

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My life is chaos.
I, I get addicted to

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painkillers.
Then I can even go further down

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the rabbit hole because the
depression, the suicide, like I

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was supposed to be this and I'm
over here.

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And then you have the awakening
while you're in jail.

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How long were you in jail?
I mean, I never, I never said

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more than 1015 days, like 15
days.

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I think it's the most I ever,
yeah, 5 * 5 different times, you

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know, and at the end and that
last arrest, now they wanted to

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throw the book at me.
Now they, you know, they,

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they've got sick of seeing me
coming into the courtroom.

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So this was it, you know.
Yeah, so that was good that we

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had another guy on the show that
he didn't get his awakening like

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he had.
He was smoking pot when he was

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five years old.
Like, kid, you not.

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Yeah, that was his first joint.
And it took him until he was

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actually in prison.
He was walking the yard one day

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and he saw these group of of, of
convicts.

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Has to call them.
What do you call them, Mike?

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They're.
Convicts, yeah, like when they

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they were doing, they were doing
yoga.

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Was that it?
Remember, remember Mike?

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I don't remember.
I think it was yoga meditating

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or something.
And so he just, he gravitated

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towards them and, and that was
the epiphany for him.

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It's like that moment just just
changed his life.

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Kind of like you dropped down
your knees, you know, So that's

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interesting.
So you get, you get, you have

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that a moment, the awakening in
prison, jail, whatever, you get

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out.
So, you know, talk us through

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that.
Like, how's you, how do you, how

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do you dramatically change
dramatically?

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Because I know when I went, when
I got sober, my biggest hurdle

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was my wife because it's like so
drunk Chris couldn't be talked

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to a reason with.
I'm always right.

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Like whatever, I don't, I'm
fine.

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I don't have a problem.
So it took us a while, you know,

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I mean, we started within three
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understanding sober Chris can be
talked to, but it really took us

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a year kind of to work through
all of that chaos and stuff that

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I caused.
That's where we're back, you

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know, normal.
So with you having been arrested

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five times and and really going
down a dark, dark hole, what was

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it like when you came out that
fifth time and, and the

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transition and how did that
evolve to who you are now?

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Yeah, so the solicitor, you
know, was Co ordering me to do

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meetings, you know, recovery
meeting.

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So I knew that was common.
But I also, you know, I've been

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in and out of recovery, you know
for since 2010, you know, so

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this wasn't anything really new.
But now this is 2024 is my

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sobriety date is March March 5th
2024.

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Oh, a day after my birthday,
hey.

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Look at that.
My sobriety date is February

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9th, 2005.
OK, OK, right on.

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I got a little time on you.
You can.

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Catch.
Hey, we all just got today.

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We just got today.
Yeah, we just got today.

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Exactly, that's why I never.
Win the day, man.

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Win the day, though.
That's it.

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I just.
Got sick the day and I've done

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the same thing ever since.
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I couldn't even get a job at

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Walmart at this point, right?
I, you know, I couldn't.

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Nobody would hire me.
Yeah, nobody would hire me.

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And I brought some spaghetti and
meatballs and some eggplant

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Parmesan to a meeting.
And somebody was like, bro,

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this, this is the best sauce
I've ever had.

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Why can't you just sell this?
You know, you know, you know, go

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to farmers market, sell, sell
your sauce.

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So I started looking into that
industry which I had no

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experience in and I made a
prototype and you know, June

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1st, 2024, I was making my first
sale at Piggly Wiggly, 6 cases

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they were.
That's awesome.

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So this is like recent too.
This is cool.

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Yeah, and that's a big chain in
the South.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, there's actually, it's

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nationwide.
There's 500 Piggly Wiggles

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nationwide.
And they were the first, they

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were the first grocery chain
like before Piggly Wiggly.

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That's true.
Bring bring your list to the to

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the grocer and he would go get
all your stuff and bring it out

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to your car.
So they actually had the patent

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on the shopping carts and
shopping lanes.

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Sweet.
Check out lanes, Yeah.

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Yeah, so, so whoops.
So, so there's this classic

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Italian red sauce right there on
his website.

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Yeah, which is a pastioli.com,
which is, if you see his hat,

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that's that's the website.com.
For those of you that are

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watching us on Twitch and and
YouTube, you can go there right

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now.
If we click this button, there's

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an exclusive offer inside.
So let's just talk about it.

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It's a classic Italian red sauce
with a timeless blend of plum

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tomatoes, garlic, basil and
traditional Italian spices.

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His sauce evokes nostalgic
memories of family gatherings

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and cherished meals.
Crafted to perfection, the sauce

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captures the essence of
authentic Italian flavors,

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creating a culinary experience
that transports you to the heart

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of Italy with every single bite.
Embrace the rich taste and aroma

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of our classic red sauce,
specifically made to elevate

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your dishes to new heights of
flavor and

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authenticityapacioli.com How do
you like?

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That sounds good.
Hey man, very nice.

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Robin, I need you to record a
commercial.

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Hey, I'll I'll do it for you,
man Oh yeah, radio.

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I've been on radio so you know,
I'm used to doing that shit, but

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that's pretty cool.
So that's.

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So your book.
Let's talk about your book a

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little bit here.
So so obviously.

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Well, let's let's stay on your
sauce first.

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So is this a family thing?
Obviously your.

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Town.
Yeah, yeah.

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My grandmother, my, my, both my
grandmothers were from Italy,

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but the grandmother I used to
hang out with down in New Haven,

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her house was in New Haven on
Sunday.

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She'd be cooking, you know,
every, every holiday, every

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weekend.
We're doing something as a

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family together, you know?
Yep, yeah, my wife's from my

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wife's family's from Sicily, so
I understand the sauce thing,

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man, believe me.
Yeah, my grandmother was Naples.

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OK, Yeah, yeah, I don't, I
don't, I don't know where.

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Like my wife, my wife's
grandparents came over and

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really barely spoke any English.
And my wife was the first one in

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her family to actually graduate
high school and go to college

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and graduate college.
So like, legit, like we went to,

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we went to New York, I don't
know, years ago when, but Ellis

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Island was shut down from
something because we wanted to

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go look for the records, you
know, because they came through

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that way.
And and we could so totally

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respect the whole Italian side
of things.

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And, you know, sauce is
everything.

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So yeah.
Yep.

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And so I'm originally from, I'm
from New Haven, CT, like I said.

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And then in 2014, I, I moved
down to Charleston, SC, where

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there isn't really authentic
Italian down here, you know?

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Good call, dude.
Yeah.

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Good move.
Yeah, it turned out, it turned

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out to work.
Work in my favorite.

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So in the grocery stores, you
know we're the only South

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Carolina based tomato sauce
manufacturer.

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Really.
That's awesome.

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Wow.
Yeah.

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Well, I think people are finally
realizing again that the mass

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produced sauce is junk, right?
I gave up on that probably 20

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years ago.
And I use all authentic.

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You know, there's no sugar.
There's no.

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It's all.
And I'll try your sauce for

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sure, because.
Yeah, so, so that we, we would

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never, we would never be caught
dead with a, a, a jar sauce in

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our house.
You know, we all made it.

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Every single one of my family
members makes it from scratch.

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You know what I mean?
But this here is, you know, 6-7

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hours and you know, only doing
small batches, but I but because

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of the demand for the product so
fast, I have to scale

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production.
The only way to do that is, you

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know, get the machines, get the
equipment and and start cranking

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them out that way.
But so I've.

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Been.
You're still, but you're still,

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but you're still doing it the
way that it was meant to be

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done, right?
Yeah.

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I'm not, that would be like what
I would consider a boutique

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sauce at that point, like,
right, you know, yeah, I'm just,

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I would say I'm more concerned
about the ingredients because

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people don't realize when you're
dumping ragu down your kids

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throat.
You're right.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah.

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And a lot of people don't know
that though.

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They're like, I'm giving them
spaghetti.

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How bad could it be?
Well, if you give them Prego or

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Ragu or one of those mass
produced sauce, that's what I'm

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talking about.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
And more people are learning

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natural ingredients are the way
to go.

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Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

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And you look closely on those
labels, they're all

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bioengineered.
That's not even real tomatoes,

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you know.
Yeah, no, I, I saw that on one

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of them.
I clicked on I the second

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picture was the label.
Let's see if I can pull it up

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now.
Yeah, I want to turn that one

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right there.
There you go.

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Roasted garlic, sweet onion.
Damn, Is that just boom in your

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face right there?
Boom in your face.

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Like, yeah, like Amarillo, he's
got.

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One right there.
Yeah.

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Oh, you got a label?
He just held it up.

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There you go.
OK, cool.

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Right on.
I don't know if they can see

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that, but.
I don't know either, but yeah,

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it's all natural.
All natural.

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No, you know, that's awesome.
No bullshit.

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No bullshit man, I love that.
Yeah, So what was happening?

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You know I.
Was yeah.

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I had a commissary kitchen, you
know, 8:00 at night till 4:00 in

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the morning.
I'm hand ladling sauce into 300

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jars and putting the labels on
my by hand too.

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And at 15 stores that was it.
That was the glass ceiling from

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that location.
So I actually shut it down and

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started calling all different
kinds of factories and stuff to

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see who could do it and, and
stay true to the recipe in the

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process, which there weren't
any.

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I wasn't fine.
I wasn't having any luck.

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So that's when a possibly farms
came to mind.

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And now and some nonprofit
ideas, you know, 'cause I was

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having recovering addicts come
and help me and volunteering at,

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at the kitchen.
So I wanted to, yeah.

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So I wanted to build a, you
know, a farm like a sanctuary

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where people could get second
chances and have find new

449
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,520
purpose and come farm with us,
you know, and, and do the

450
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560
pocket.
That's awesome, man.

451
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,240
Yeah.
Chills, chills.

452
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,880
Absolutely.
That's fucking way to go, Joe.

453
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,920
Way to go, Joe.
And I loved it.

454
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,640
I loved it from the bars to
jars.

455
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,240
A saucy redemption story.
That's clever, man.

456
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,640
It is very.
I like it too.

457
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,160
Very.
Clever.

458
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,280
That's really clever.
I'm assuming you came up with

459
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,360
that.
Yeah, yes.

460
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,520
So what was happening while I
was working at the commissary,

461
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480
you know, sometimes, a lot of
times I was by myself and I just

462
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,080
started writing.
I was going to write a book

463
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,840
about how to get into food
entrepreneurism, you know, and

464
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,760
get a product to market, you
know.

465
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800
But what ended up happening was
I'm trying to explain all this

466
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,480
stuff, writing it down.
And it's like, you know, why

467
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,160
don't I go to the back to the
beginning?

468
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,800
My, you know, I've always said
my, my life has been like a

469
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,080
movie, you know, So from the
music industry stuff and all the

470
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,680
shit that I was doing there, you
know, I got to play with some of

471
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,880
the original members of the
Whalers, like 17 years old, you

472
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,040
know?
Yeah, I I mean, I played at this

473
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,080
place called the Acoustic Cafe
in Connecticut.

474
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,680
That's where John Mayer got his
start.

475
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:31,040
You know, I played out in LA at
the whiskey a go go, you know,

476
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,840
opening for some of the members
of Judas Priest, you know, so

477
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,560
I've been through, you know,
I've seen some shit being in the

478
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,200
music industry.
But and then and in my

479
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,680
testimony, my faith, you know,
without my faith and, and that

480
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,120
moment in that jail, so none of
this would be happening.

481
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,920
I should have been dead.
You know, I got kidnapped in the

482
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,640
Bahamas.
You know, the attempted murder

483
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,760
thing.
It's like, and God was there the

484
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,560
whole time, whether I wanted to
believe it or not.

485
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,880
That's cool, man.
So, so now you mentioned you

486
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,600
referenced something about
writing a book about how to be a

487
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320
food entrepreneur.
I think you should still do

488
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,960
that.
Because.

489
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,480
That's something like I have I
have the legit dude.

490
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,360
I I had a this is so random.
So I had a smoker and I used it

491
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,760
once and I did it wrong and so I
smoked out my house.

492
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,160
My wife now hates smoked foods.
I totally get it right.

493
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,040
So I put it on Facebook
marketplace.

494
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Check this story out, Joe.
So a guy comes and buys my

495
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,160
smoker and then about I friended
him on Facebook and a couple

496
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,560
years later I it was his
birthday.

497
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,680
So I wished him a happy birthday
because I have a Facebook

498
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240
birthday thing I do.
And then he comes at me in a

499
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,640
message.
Hey, hey, man, I just want to

500
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,720
let you know that that I should
have him on the show.

501
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,640
Hey man, I want to let you know
that that smoker you got me.

502
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760
I ended up turning that into
commercial business.

503
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,680
I'm like, what?
So he actually, he started

504
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,320
smoking jerky, calling it butt
rubs, and now he's kind of doing

505
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,320
what you're doing.
He's he's trying to get.

506
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,040
In I heard about that company.
Right.

507
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,640
That started because I sold them
my smoker man, and it was a

508
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760
tiny, it was a stupid little
$100 smoker.

509
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,240
Nothing.
Nothing exciting, just.

510
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,120
This little.
Smoker that I like.

511
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,560
I think the kids got me from
Home Depot and I just had it on

512
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,200
my patio with the screen door
open and and I'm smoking, man.

513
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,640
And then I go inside.
I'm just doing my thing and my

514
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,880
wife's like, you're smoking the
house out.

515
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,920
I'm like, what?
I'm like, oh shit, I realized.

516
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840
So I shut the Arcadia door.
Never.

517
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,720
I'm like legit swear to God,
dude, she will not eat smoked

518
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,680
food now if her life depended on
it because I smoked the house.

519
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,520
But just from that simple act of
selling this thing from next to

520
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000
nothing, I Dave took it off to a
whole new level.

521
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,400
His own jerk, right.
It's crazy.

522
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,000
That's awesome little things.
So I think you should still

523
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,320
write that book because if you
have if you have from the bars

524
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800
to jars, you know the sauce of
your redemption Shorty, that

525
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,360
gives you credibility right
there.

526
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,200
And so I think that would be a
great little how to.

527
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,120
Book.
Well, here's the thing.

528
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,880
Here's the thing.
A few of these chapters, it is.

529
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,680
It's given the instruction
manual.

530
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000
Yeah, I tell.
I tell people exactly how to do

531
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840
it.
Yeah, exactly what I did.

532
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,200
But there's a second book now
too, which is fiction.

533
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,560
So what happened was I, you
know, I sent my man after I

534
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,880
published it.
I rush published it because, you

535
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,760
know, the the stores were
running out of product.

536
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,760
So I needed to keep my brand
alive in these stores.

537
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600
I didn't have another food
product to put in there.

538
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,760
So I published a book, self
published.

539
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,400
And now now I'm doing book
signings and a book tour with

540
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,120
Piggly Wiggly.
Well, I sent the manuscript to

541
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,440
Angel Studios, who did the
chosen, you know, just roll the

542
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,360
dice, just random shot in the
dark.

543
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,120
And about a month later they hit
me back and we're so inspired by

544
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,960
the story.
It says, hey, you know, why

545
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,920
don't you film a torch pilot?
We want to see a torch pilot to

546
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,040
submit it to our Guild and let's
see this thing go to screen.

547
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,120
So now there's a film
adaptation.

548
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,440
And so I'm looking at looking
into different producers,

549
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,120
directors, writers, all that
stuff.

550
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800
And while that's going on, I
started writing a second book,

551
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960
which is a fictional
continuation of From Bars and

552
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Jars.
So this one's called The

553
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,640
Harvest, which it starts as if
we get the farm off the ground,

554
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,480
a $15 million investment.
But then all kinds of drama and

555
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
shit happened.
So the, the now we're doing ATV

556
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,840
series.
I'm already talks and with a

557
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,920
bunch of different people, heavy
hitters I can't mention, but you

558
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,720
know, so it's like Yellowstone
meets Ozark meets the Chosen

559
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,480
meets Shameless, kind of a, you
know, family drama, spiritual,

560
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480
faith-based series.
Yeah.

561
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,640
Very cool, I like that.
And here I thought you were just

562
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,400
a chef man like you open up this
whole we could do a different

563
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,440
episode from every aspect of
your life, Joe and and you were

564
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760
going to bail today and I reeled
you back in.

565
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,920
Yeah, thank God man, I know to.
Hear a story about your smoker

566
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,360
creating an empire?
We've done 152 episodes now.

567
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,360
I've never heard that.
Story because it never came up.

568
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,800
I know.
That's awesome though.

569
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,400
This conversation with Joe
brought that back to life.

570
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,480
What?
Made me man do it today Joe.

571
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,680
It was a.
Time.

572
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,760
No, it wasn't.
It was, No, yeah, it was a time

573
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,280
thing because I forgot that it
was a 2 hour difference.

574
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,200
And I had a meeting with the
National Italian American

575
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Foundation.
I'm doing an event in a custom

576
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080
fragrance for them.
So I had to present it to the

577
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,440
guest of honor for this event
coming up in December.

578
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,760
But no, they, they, they totally
understood and it all worked out

579
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,960
and here we are.
Yeah, you're busy.

580
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,880
And he thought it was 9:00 AM
too, which, you know, because we

581
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,440
talked, I don't know how long
ago.

582
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240
And then I started.
I think I poked at your last

583
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280
week as a reminder.
Yeah.

584
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,320
But yeah, so that's the thing
we've gotten.

585
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,600
We've gotten to the point to
where like now we're booking in

586
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,360
December, you know, and I
actually slowed it down a bit

587
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,720
because I was there was, we were
so far out for stuff.

588
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,160
And I'm like, I just, I got to
slow down a bit, but just for

589
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280
the sheer fact that, you know,
Mike and I got to breathe

590
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560
sometimes.
Well, and because of what he

591
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,160
just said, literally some of
these people we started

592
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680
contacting months ago and now
it's coming up.

593
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,280
It was summertime probably when
you talk to him the first time.

594
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.

595
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,200
It's crazy.
It's.

596
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,120
Also like, so when I tell you,
yeah, go ahead.

597
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,440
When I, when I talked to you
that first time, I've only, I

598
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,680
had only been on maybe two or
three podcasts at that point.

599
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,240
I'd like the book just kind of
just came out, just started

600
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,640
getting some traction.
And since then man, I've been on

601
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880
like 3035 different shows.
Right on.

602
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,880
Very cool.
Yeah.

603
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,240
That's very cool, man.
So so from a book standpoint,

604
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,040
again, it's it's from bars.
It's from bars to jars, a saucy

605
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,320
redemption story.
And you can go Amazon, all the

606
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040
online places, right?
Yeah, yeah, Barnes and Noble.

607
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Or you could get it right from
my site.

608
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

609
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,320
And so you self published that
you did it.

610
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,840
Yeah, yeah, that book I, I self
published the second book will

611
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,960
be going through a a different
publisher.

612
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080
OK, that's cool.
That's very cool.

613
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,160
So you got some apparel?
Yeah, shirts and hats and stuff

614
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,480
like that, you know?
Just cool.

615
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,200
We need some apparel.
Chris, Donna.

616
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440
What's that We need some I know
we got to get apparel, man.

617
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,160
I know Maybe we should talk to
Joe after the show and fragrance

618
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,960
now does your fragrance does it
smell like like Italian sauce?

619
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,040
I.
You know, I had a feeling you

620
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,240
were going to ask that
everybody.

621
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,760
No, the the fragrance don't
smell like garlic and the and

622
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320
the sauce don't taste like
perfume.

623
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,560
OK.
But what it does do it, it is

624
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,080
positioning us as like a, you
know, a, a premium brand, a

625
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920
luxury lifestyle brand like, you
know, absolutely.

626
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,600
You picture your picture going
to a fancy Italian dinner,

627
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
you're getting dressed, you're
spraying the, the Cologne, you

628
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,000
know what I mean?
Then you get there and it and

629
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,240
it's my sauce on the table.
Yeah, yeah.

630
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000
And then you have 88 course meal
and then you can't get up from

631
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280
the table because, you know,
food combo.

632
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Yeah, they then you got to leave
in a stretcher.

633
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Yeah, right.
But it's all right once in a

634
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,800
while, yeah, but it's all super
good Italian food, so there's

635
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,080
nothing wrong with that, man.
Hell.

636
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Premium, it's quality.
That's what you're going to get

637
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
with a possibility.
That's that's it.

638
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560
That's fantastic.
Here would be my challenge to

639
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640
you.
I'm allergic to that dairy, so

640
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
you would have to chef me up
some Dessie right away.

641
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,080
I love it.
I love people.

642
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't.

643
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,280
Yeah, that's the roasted garlic.
The roasted garlic don't have a

644
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,920
doesn't have any dairy in it.
Yeah, and it's hard to find

645
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,640
quality.
That's why I want to try your

646
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,120
sauce.
It's hard to find quality sauce

647
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,480
that isn't, you know, loaded
with three kinds of cheese and.

648
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200
Yeah, right, right.
And I actually, I, so my product

649
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,440
line, the food products, there's
actually 10 products.

650
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,280
So you got the four sauces.
Like I got 3 marinaras, I got 1

651
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,840
pizza sauce and I got 2 sauces,
hippy dip and trippy dip.

652
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,520
And then I've got. 4 Right on. 4
marinated veggies for like doing

653
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,800
like antipast like charcuterie
boards.

654
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,320
Everybody's going nuts for that
kind of shit.

655
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,600
So, you know, bang banging
bellas, Banging bellas, cremini,

656
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,400
mushroom, red Peppers,
artichokes and green olives.

657
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,120
It all sounds delicious.
Faith food fragrance film.

658
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,640
That's cool, dude.
That is cool.

659
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,680
And now I see you're married.
How?

660
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,960
How long are you married?
I May 19th.

661
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
No, sorry, May 11th.
It was 16th.

662
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,640
When you get home.
Oh, definitely.

663
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,480
She's.
Listening.

664
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,600
She's listening right now.
She might be coming on the

665
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,920
corner with a shotgun.
There you go so so so this is

666
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960
cool right here.
So this is coming up right?

667
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Wednesday, November 26th of this
this year.

668
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,720
OK.
So if you want, if you want to

669
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,880
go meet, you're going to go meet
Joe Gallagher, the the author

670
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,120
from bars to jars.
There you go, right there at

671
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,040
South Carolina, John's Island,
12 to 3 meters.

672
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,000
Is it a book signing?
Yeah, it's a book signing.

673
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,400
It's weird.
This is a clothing store.

674
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Jane McLaughlin.
They've got about 180 stores,

675
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,440
but they're like a boutique,
high end boutique.

676
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,520
They're from New York, but their
biggest location, their most

677
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040
successful location is down here
on Kiawah Island, where all the

678
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,400
rich people hang out.
And so I'm, yeah, so I'm going

679
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320
to have sampled the sauce,
signed books, sample the

680
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,280
fragrance, the whole deal.
That'll be a fantastic day for

681
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,880
you.
Yeah, yeah, it's it's exciting.

682
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,440
They bought me an outfit.
They gave me an outfit.

683
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,200
What is what is what is low
country lunatics, Joe.

684
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040
That's that's my podcast.
I've got a podcast every Friday

685
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,080
at 11.
Yeah.

686
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,440
Awesome.
Yeah.

687
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Yeah, I just started out about 3
months ago.

688
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,040
We've done, yeah, 19 episodes.
That's, that's the latest

689
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,800
episode.
Sarah Bolden, I know she's going

690
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640
to be watching this thing.
She's she's a Lyme disease

691
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,160
survivor and she's been bent,
bent through hell and back.

692
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Yeah, she's cool.
She's on my my team.

693
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,920
Right on, dude.
See, I like.

694
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,240
I like.
I'll check it out for sure.

695
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
I'll put it in my like playlist.
That's why I like the social

696
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480
media stuff, because I can Share
your story while we're having a

697
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,480
conversation.
I love how you're doing this

698
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,720
man.
I'm I'm taking notes now.

699
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480
This is the way to do it.
Share the screen.

700
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Yeah, you know.
It's funny, it's just this

701
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,800
turned into the same thing as
the band.

702
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800
I had one vision of what the
band was going to be and then

703
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,200
when the other three members
joined, I was smart enough to

704
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,120
allow them to have an opinion
and it became something else,

705
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,920
right.
So the same thing happened here.

706
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040
I I had a vision of what I
thought this was going to be in

707
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,360
it organically morphed into this
and it's so much fun.

708
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Like just given you an
opportunity to tell what you do.

709
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Like he said, we would have
thought you were just a chef and

710
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,600
if we were a couple of assholes
we would only ask questions

711
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,440
about food.
Right.

712
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,440
Which is why we don't do pre
interview stuff, which is why we

713
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,880
don't ask questions because
because then you don't, you

714
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,960
don't learn this stuff.
And the fact that like legit

715
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,160
everybody who who watches the
shows and follows us now

716
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,200
understands this is real and raw
in the moment.

717
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,160
We don't.
We don't.

718
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Real time we don't.
Pre.

719
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,480
That's one thing him and I
agreed on 100%.

720
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,120
We knew that we wanted it to
just be a conversation.

721
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Yeah, exactly.
And this is better than better

722
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,000
than your ex right there.
I.

723
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Like that?
OK, that's my life.

724
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Sure.
Right on, dude.

725
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440
We'll just leave that there for
a while.

726
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,800
Oh my gosh, she's going to kill
you guys.

727
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:16,920
I know she is, that's why I
left.

728
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Is this Halloween?
No Halloween yet.

729
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Yeah, right on, right on.
And who's she peeing?

730
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Who's she pretending to be?
Snoop.

731
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,560
I was going to say Snoop, but I
didn't want to step on the toe,

732
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,880
man.
Yeah.

733
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,320
Yeah, Snoop, Snoop, we're going
to get Snoop Dogg on the show,

734
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,400
Mike.
That would be outstanding.

735
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560
You make that happen.
I know.

736
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Listen, I'll tell you what guys.
So my graphic designer, the guy

737
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,719
that did that logo right there
is Jason Hutton.

738
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,320
Look him up.
He does all the great dogs, does

739
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440
all Snoop Dogg's merge $0.50
merge.

740
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,000
Cool.
Yeah, I met him from back in the

741
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,920
music industry.
Yeah.

742
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,400
Yeah, wow, that is a great logo.
The apostole one, right?

743
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Yeah.
Yeah.

744
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560
I like this picture.
I like that picture.

745
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,720
I like.
I like artsy things.

746
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,760
At that time.
I want some cheesy, but I like

747
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,640
that kind of stuff.
It's cool.

748
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:07,880
Oh, there's it.
There it is again.

749
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Celebrate the season, boys and
girls.

750
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,280
Go meet.
Go meet Joe and taste his stuff.

751
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Taste his sauce.
Sign his buys book, he'll sign

752
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,200
it for you.
So Reagan, are you a Reagan fan

753
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,200
or what?
Where'd you come up with the

754
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,360
name Reagan #4?
No, this is, I sponsored the

755
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,760
Reagan, the 3rd annual Reagan
Gala, which is the South

756
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,400
Carolina Republican Party.
Yep.

757
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,840
And so I was for their silent
auction, I created 2 signature

758
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960
cents just for the event.
And so this is, this was one of

759
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,720
the products.
Yeah.

760
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Does it smell like Ronald
Reagan?

761
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,880
I don't know.
I hope not, because this is a

762
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,240
new debt.
So this is your buddy Jason

763
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:47,680
Hutton.
Did this hold this logo?

764
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Before you get too far, No,
don't be sorry.

765
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,560
Before you get too far away from
the perfume and Cologne, how did

766
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600
you get into that?
How does somebody go from being

767
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,080
a chef, a musician, and all of a
sudden they decide that they

768
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,680
know?
Where did that come from?

769
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,960
We've never discussed that and
it's been bothering me ever

770
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,080
since we talked about it.
You know what?

771
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,520
I'm glad you asked, Mike.
So way back when I had worked

772
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,120
for a distillery.
Then I started a startup

773
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,960
distillery in Alabama.
I was.

774
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,880
I got 10 moonshines out into the
market, you know, got them

775
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
approved, created the formulas.
The Moonshine.

776
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Did the labeling and all that
stuff.

777
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,440
But what I learned there is
that, you know, during COVID, a

778
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,920
lot of distilleries switched
their production to hand

779
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,320
sanitizer.
They could have done hand

780
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200
sanitizer and they also could
have done perfume because the,

781
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680
the, the biggest ingredient in
perfume is ethanol.

782
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040
And ethanol is a byproduct of,
you know, that's not what's

783
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,480
going into your, your bottles of
liquor, but it's actually the

784
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,360
waste, you know, the, the stuff
that comes out really hot, you

785
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920
know what I mean?
When they run, run those.

786
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Man.
There you go.

787
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,240
Yeah.
So, yeah, yeah.

788
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,240
And then the oils and stuff,
that's a whole another process.

789
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,480
I had to research that.
It's it's pretty intense.

790
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Like I'm extracting the oils
from woods and flower, flower

791
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,360
petals and stuff like that and
blocks of coconut oil.

792
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,560
And then, you know, doing what
they call entourage Rich, you

793
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,680
heat it up in the ethanol and
it's a.

794
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920
It's, I find that kind of shit
fascinating, dude.

795
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,160
I'm one of these people that
once I know that, I mean, I've

796
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960
watched so many documentaries on
that kind of stuff that now that

797
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,880
you explained it that way, I
understand exactly what you're

798
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,320
doing.
But until then, I'm like, how's

799
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,840
the guy?
I'm trying to put the puzzle

800
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,080
pieces together, you know?
Yeah, And, you know, there's a

801
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,720
science to it for sure, but
there's also an art to it, you

802
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,040
know, because people will come
to me.

803
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,680
And he's like, hey, could you
make something that smells like

804
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Arabian and and mystical?
They're giving me like

805
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,760
emotional.
Could you make something that

806
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120
smells like hope?
I'm like, well, what the fuck

807
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,000
does hope smell like?
I don't know, you know, But then

808
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,000
I kind of got to, I got to put
myself in the zone and then just

809
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,760
start mixing some shit together
and, you know.

810
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,120
Now does this same guy do all
your packaging and?

811
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,200
No, no, no.
So he was my mentor.

812
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200
I, I started doing all my own
packaging.

813
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,960
So I'll call him on special
occasions.

814
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,880
Your presentation is amazing, so
kudo.

815
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Yeah, it.
Is thank you bro.

816
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,280
Thank you I love all I went to
school for graphic arts there it

817
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,680
is my.
Mug shot.

818
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,840
That's the intent of.
Murder.

819
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,160
That's the mug shot.
Yeah, yeah.

820
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040
That's our.
First mug shot for real on the.

821
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Podcast.
I love it.

822
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Yeah, I'm sorry.
It's like a totally different

823
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,400
guy.
I don't even recognize that guy.

824
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Right.
I love, I love.

825
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,200
That's the cool.
Thing about life, man, yes,

826
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,840
that's the that's the best thing
about life.

827
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,400
You can.
You can make the decision to

828
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
change and you can change.
You can, and nobody's too far

829
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,320
going, man.
Yeah.

830
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,720
No, people just think you're
pigeon holed and you're just

831
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,280
stuck.
You don't.

832
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,320
Look what you've done since
then, man.

833
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
I'm just, I'm blown away at like
your marketing and your

834
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,360
packaging.
Amazing.

835
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Logos and everything is just
very professional.

836
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,640
I love it.
That's the moonshiner I was

837
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,160
talking about.
Yeah, Tony Griffin.

838
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,320
If you want him on your show, if
you want, he's a good friend of

839
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,280
mine, we would.
Love to yes.

840
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,760
Yeah, see, let's get a
moonshiner.

841
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,800
Make that happen, Joe.
That'll be fantastic.

842
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
OK, I'll text you.
He'll he'll be.

843
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,800
He'll be thrilled.
Get in touch with Chris, We'll

844
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,040
be thrilled.
Yeah, that'll be fantastic.

845
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,640
That'll be awesome.
Yeah, I tried to have him on my

846
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,400
show, but his Internet
connection, you know, five times

847
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,080
we tried to record his
interview.

848
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,120
Yeah.
We've we've run into that too,

849
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,920
dude.
Well, and I think there was

850
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,840
something spiritual going on
because he's trying to blow the

851
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360
whistle on, on somebody that was
doing some crooked shit.

852
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,840
I, I or something, I, I can't
even remember.

853
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,040
But he, we, and for some reason,
the episode never got out.

854
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Really.
Well, we'll give it a shot

855
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560
because we would love to talk to
a moonshiner for sure.

856
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,080
I watched the show just like
Chris did.

857
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880
I'm fascinated with that kind of
shit.

858
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Yeah.
Yeah.

859
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,000
So we had, we had.
Go ahead.

860
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Him, Jimbo Gray, Jimbo Bray,
they both they're they're

861
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,680
partners and they 111 show he
won the other show, so yeah.

862
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Right on.
Yeah, we had a we had a guy on

863
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,320
not too long ago, Dwayne Dwayne
Parker, a country singer.

864
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,840
Guy's amazing.
He was actually singing who did

865
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,520
the show live in the Appalachian
Mountains and and was so.

866
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,000
We asked him about moonshine.
He's like, Oh yeah, Since he

867
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,360
was, you know, little kid.
Like, it's like, right on.

868
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:26,080
His music Joe is that authentic
outlaw country that Lion and

869
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Willie started 100 years ago.
He's still doing it.

870
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,680
He played a live session one day
and kudos to Dwayne.

871
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120
I fucking cried at one of the
songs he played.

872
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,920
He just knows how to capture
your emotions.

873
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,760
Yeah, yeah, he.
Wrote the best singer.

874
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,480
I'm not the best guitar player,
but I know what a good song is,

875
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,320
right?
Right.

876
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,000
And and, and he played first
live.

877
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,640
My truck's on crack, dude.
It was, it was the most fun we

878
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,520
had on the show.
We were rolling, man.

879
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,880
We were just rolling.
It was.

880
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,440
Crazy.
My truck's on crack.

881
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
I love that.
Yeah, the lyrics were perfect

882
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,680
for the title.
Yeah.

883
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Uh huh, Uh huh.
Yep, that's a good one like

884
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,920
that, Joe.
Yes.

885
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Thank you.
Thank you.

886
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,240
Now you know what's up with the
Braves and Yankee hats, which

887
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,720
isn't man, Braves or Yankees.
Neither.

888
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,760
OK, I got 40.
I got 40 hats.

889
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,480
I've got 40 hats.
You know, it depends on what I'm

890
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,000
wearing, you know, whatever, you
know, that's why I just got

891
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,600
this.
I just got this hat yesterday.

892
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,520
So now there's, you know, no
more confusion.

893
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,440
Yeah, it was annoying, man.
Like, I, I'm depending on what

894
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,160
kind of hat, what team hat I'm
wearing.

895
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,160
I'm getting all kinds of
questions.

896
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,760
Oh, did you see the game last
night?

897
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,640
You know?
Yeah, I'm like.

898
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,640
No, I'll make you a deal, Joe.
I've been wearing the same Bears

899
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,880
hat for 151 or two episodes.
If you send me one of those

900
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,360
hats, I'll wear it once in a
while.

901
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Oh, really?
OK, there's my.

902
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,440
There's my I.
Love that, Doug.

903
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,720
You know what I said?
You know when people ask me

904
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,480
that, I'm like, listen, when one
of those teams wants me to

905
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,840
endorse them, I'll throw out all
the other ones.

906
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,640
You know, pay me.
You know, my answer is just like

907
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,880
your answer to Chris.
This hat fits me better than any

908
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,080
hat that I own.
So that's what I that's why I

909
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
wear it.
But I would be happy to wear

910
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,960
yours because you're cool.
Oh man man, I appreciate that.

911
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,400
I know I need more walking
billboards.

912
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,800
I think Chris said it way more
eloquently earlier.

913
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,760
Or maybe you said it.
I've been through some shit,

914
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,120
right?
I think you said it.

915
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,960
Yeah, yeah.
I We've been there, too.

916
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,120
I understand how dark you've
been, what kind of mindset you

917
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,360
were in hopelessness.
Chris understands that.

918
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Yeah.
All three of us have that in

919
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,880
common.
And to come out the other side

920
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,120
and to watch him scroll through
what he likes to call your life

921
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,040
resume is outstanding, man.
It just, it gives me goosebumps

922
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,480
to think, you know, became a
chef.

923
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,280
You became a marketer, you
became a perfume maker.

924
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,320
It just it's.
Outstanding.

925
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Yeah.
What is what is that one thing

926
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,360
that Kramer said about Remember
when he came up with the beach?

927
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,680
The episode The Beach?
Yes.

928
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,760
A fragrance.
What was it?

929
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,760
A fragrance.
Sex on the beach.

930
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Yeah, but no, it was the ocean.
But he wanted to be a fragrance.

931
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,880
He was pissed off because Calvin
Klan ran with the without giving

932
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120
him his due.
And he's like, I could have been

933
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
a fragrance, something mogul or
something.

934
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,160
Mogul.
That was it.

935
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,560
I could have been a fragrance
mogul.

936
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Yeah, yeah.
You know, now we, we need to

937
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,000
come up with some Chris and Mike
Cologne.

938
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Mike, hey, if you're going to
have to have Joe Mint for us,

939
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,440
you know.
You can put my name on it.

940
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Listen, I do private labeling
too.

941
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,240
So you, you tell me what you
want.

942
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,800
I can, I can, I can get you AI
can get you something.

943
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,760
There you go, I just texted you
both so you have each other's

944
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,440
number.
Oh, look at that tasty dish.

945
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Sweet.
Dude, yeah, it's been so long.

946
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,840
Fresh Basil.
Authentic pasta?

947
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,320
Oh, I can taste.
It well, you all are out in

948
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Arizona, right?
Arizona, Yeah, yeah.

949
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,920
Yeah, they don't.
I'm in Arizona, like in Pontiac,

950
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,400
IL.
Do they have Italian restaurants

951
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,760
out there?
They do, but the one Sammy, the

952
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
bull that he owns, that he owned
for a while, oh.

953
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,040
OK.
It's called Uncle.

954
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,880
It's called Uncle Sal's that
that's pretty legit, like pretty

955
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
authentic because, you know, OK,
Bull.

956
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Yeah, you're right.
But it's but it's, you know, I

957
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,160
mean, it's just, you know, my
wife, my wife makes her sauce is

958
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
amazing.
Like it's legit like I won't

959
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,800
eat.
I never liked sauce for years

960
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,040
because I was a kid.
I had an incident at an Italian

961
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040
restaurant where I threw up
after eating the sauce.

962
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Bad taste in your mouth, right?
But so she made sauce, she made

963
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,440
sauce.
And then it's just like, OK,

964
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,400
let's.
You're not making me sick.

965
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,640
No.
And it's and it's amazing

966
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,720
because it's, it's you know, you
know how to make sauce.

967
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,920
You're Italian.
It's the whole love and the team

968
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560
and the slope.
Yeah, you put your soul in it.

969
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,240
You have to slow cooking.
All day process, Yeah.

970
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,680
We would start.
We would start.

971
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,320
Man.
Thanks, man.

972
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Yeah, we, we would start a sauce
at like 8:00 in the morning and

973
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,800
we wouldn't be eating till 3:00
or 4:00 in the afternoon, you

974
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,360
know?
Yeah, absolutely.

975
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,440
It's a process, exactly.
And you're so good to love.

976
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Oh, there you go on the shelves.
Yeah, that's the whole lineup.

977
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640
That's everything.
I'm just fascinated, like he

978
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,360
said earlier, how fast this
happened for you man.

979
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Like you had a vision, you put
it to motion and bam.

980
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,720
Yeah, bam, there's a there's a
lot of AI and there's the farm.

981
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,800
Well, it's an AI thing, you
know, I, I usually have but but

982
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,760
yeah, yeah, the.
Vision is there and we've

983
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,320
already.
Seen you make something get.

984
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Happened so I believe that
vision too.

985
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Yeah, me too.
Me too, man.

986
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
I just had some calls this week
with a billionaire who is

987
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,200
probably going to fund this
thing so.

988
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,760
Sweet.
I hope that happens for you,

989
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,880
man, because your your idea of
what you want to do is just so

990
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,280
awesome.
It could help so many people

991
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,440
stay on the right path and, you
know, move forward and do things

992
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,120
productive like you did, like I
did, like Chris did.

993
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,080
We became productive members of
society, as I like to say, You

994
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
know, we're paying taxes.
We're doing the right thing.

995
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:02,960
We're not in jail.
Yeah.

996
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Being an outlaw isn't
sustainable.

997
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,960
Thank you.
No, but I like you.

998
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Can be an outlaw without being
in jail.

999
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,720
Sorry, right, right.
No, we had that.

1000
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,280
We had that band on what Gibson
and company, they're they're

1001
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,240
outlaws, but it's outlaw music,
right?

1002
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,000
You're doing it in your own way,
man.

1003
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,400
Now you're an outlaw of the
pasta business, right?

1004
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,680
Exactly.
You're an outlaw of the Cologne

1005
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,200
business, the perfume business.
You're an outlaws speaking out

1006
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,520
for what you believe in.
I love that.

1007
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,800
And that's what we're looking
for is people who are real.

1008
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Thank you.
Raw and relevant.

1009
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Who's that guy?
Who's that guy?

1010
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,760
I don't know that guy, very
daft.

1011
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,440
I told AI told AI to to put me
give me some air because as you

1012
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,280
can see.
Yeah, we're all in the same

1013
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,960
boat, brother.
We can make fun of bald people

1014
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,160
because we're bald.
I'm going to put this one on our

1015
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,280
Facebook page.
What's Costanza say?

1016
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,720
This is the These are the
remnants of a once great

1017
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:06,800
civilization.
Or something.

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, exactly.

1019
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,200
Yeah.
And mine was a once great

1020
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,560
civilization, I must say.
Yep.

1021
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,280
Forget about it.
I was waiting for that.

1022
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,480
That's why I was searching for
this.

1023
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,720
Like somewhere there's got to be
this full blown, you know,

1024
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,680
something.
So there it is there.

1025
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,320
It is.
That's it.

1026
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Yeah, 1.
Of the greatest movies of all

1027
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,080
time.
Definitely.

1028
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,920
Actually the guy that is helping
me get this investment right,

1029
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,800
Jamie Trasiati, He owns a
company called Goodfellas

1030
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,200
Business Services and he he's
friends with, he's friends with

1031
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,240
a few of the guys that were in
that movie.

1032
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,560
He's got autographs with Paul
Paulie Sorvino.

1033
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Yeah, All right.
On.

1034
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,600
That's so cool.
Yeah, Polly was in Sopranos too.

1035
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Yep.
Yeah, absolutely.

1036
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Dude this is awesome man.
If you ever had a guest on your

1037
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,600
podcast, reach out.
Yeah, man, definitely.

1038
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Yeah, for sure.
We both, either one of us be

1039
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040
happy to do it, or both of us
together.

1040
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,640
I want a story behind this.
I don't even know what that I

1041
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,280
was helping a franchise to sell
some shit.

1042
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,680
I'm just messing with you man.
I want that it's gone.

1043
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,640
It's gone.
It's so quick.

1044
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Is that real or is that AI?
That's AI.

1045
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,440
OK, that's crazy, man.
I do AI.

1046
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,120
It looks real insane, right?
Yeah, yeah.

1047
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:40,280
Yeah, it's getting freaky, man.
Yeah, Is that what you look like

1048
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,520
when you're in the Rock'n'roll
Day?

1049
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,240
Yeah, I had the red Mohawk.
That's when my hair started

1050
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,760
falling out.
You know, because you got to

1051
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360
strip your hair, right?
Strip it, bleach it.

1052
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,120
And.
And it wasn't long after.

1053
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Yeah, 28 years old, I started
losing my hair.

1054
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,800
Me too to the I was the same age
dude, and by the tub started

1055
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,440
getting a little more full at
the bottom every time I took a

1056
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,880
shower, you know?
Yeah, same age by the time I was

1057
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,760
32.
I should have given it up then,

1058
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,240
but I hung on a little longer.
OK, so here's your here's your

1059
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:14,120
coming soon, the Netflix plug.
So it's, it's, is it, it's, it's

1060
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,080
the whole thing's going to be
wrapped around the book from

1061
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,760
bars to jars.
Yeah.

1062
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,880
So it's the first season.
The first season is the base on

1063
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,680
the well, it's all based on the
true story because there's

1064
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
elements of the second season
that come from the first book.

1065
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,400
But yeah, it's the first and
second books.

1066
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,800
But and Netflix is we're not
locked in on that.

1067
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,960
Yeah, I just put that out there
to start manifesting.

1068
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,320
But we're talking to we're
talking to network.

1069
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,240
So yeah.
OK, cool.

1070
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Right on.
Right on.

1071
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,000
Who that?
Yeah.

1072
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,960
That's that's Chef Raffi.
He's the the Puerto Rican

1073
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,400
hippie.
Yeah, Yeah.

1074
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,560
He's not a chef either.
But see that jar of salsa?

1075
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640
The jar of salsa.
So it's a Puerto Rican hippie.

1076
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,760
Puerto Rican hippie dip.
Basically what I did.

1077
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,600
It's it's bruschetta, you know?
Yeah, OK.

1078
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
It's bruschetta.
Take out, take out, take out the

1079
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,120
basil and put in cilantro and
jalapeno.

1080
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,640
There's your recipe.
Right on.

1081
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,720
Yeah.
Very cool.

1082
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Yeah, that's awesome.
Very cool so so that is that is

1083
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,800
all of Joe's stuff man right
there on the Facebook page

1084
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,800
that's awesome that's fantastic
so what's what's what's on the

1085
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,400
horizon for you Joe The.
Screenplay right in the

1086
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,400
screenplay continue with that
and then I've got some some

1087
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080
events coming up, some
collaborations with different

1088
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,760
designers in the fashion world.
We're doing collaborations on

1089
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,880
fragrances, some events coming
up down in Florida, and I'm

1090
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,960
supposed to go speak at the
Rochester Cathedral in in the UK

1091
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,080
in February.
Nice, like a testimony type

1092
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,320
thing.
Yeah.

1093
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,880
Wait on man, that's awesome.
Yes, taking it as in common man.

1094
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440
That's that's fantastic.
We need to have you come back on

1095
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
next year when you kind of get
some more traction on things

1096
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,840
you're doing.
So we can help you get that

1097
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,960
stuff out there for sure.
And then you and let me talk

1098
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,800
about creating a fragrance.
OK.

1099
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Yeah, I'm down, man.
Definitely.

1100
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:16,720
We we had a we had a guy who
makes guitars for he made a

1101
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,160
guitar for Peter clip from
candle box and and a couple of

1102
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,240
guys from Everclear.
He's he's making Mike a guitar

1103
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:22,400
now.
Monkey house.

1104
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,360
Oh wow.
What up So?

1105
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Yeah, it's.
Going to get a custom custom

1106
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,360
guitar made so.
It's awesome.

1107
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,680
And then it would be.
Cool to have a custom Cologne

1108
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,320
too.
Right, right.

1109
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,800
You got to get some cool shit
out of putting forth all this

1110
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,360
effort to do this podcast.
Right.

1111
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,840
Listen, you need a consumable,
consumable product.

1112
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,000
You need merchandise.
You know?

1113
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,280
It's that way, you know.
We're going to.

1114
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Be streaming streaming, you
know, it's to monetize your your

1115
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,200
content.
It takes a long time and a lot

1116
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,160
of hell of a lot of listeners,
you know, millions to really to

1117
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,800
start living off that income.
And we're doing, yeah.

1118
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,200
And we're doing everything
organically.

1119
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,320
So like since, since March,
we've grown, you know, over

1120
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,800
200,000 views.
And but we put I put content on

1121
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,440
YouTube page three times a day,
Mike.

1122
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,640
Does constantly.
So, so it, I mean that that

1123
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,520
itself is, is, is and the
dynamics cool because it's 2100

1124
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,280
subscribers and over 200,000
views.

1125
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,480
So, you know, the numbers are
legit.

1126
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,720
It's not that.
Oh, I have a million

1127
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,520
subscribers, but only 3000
views, man.

1128
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,080
There's something wrong there,
man.

1129
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,840
Yeah.
And we get hit up with that all

1130
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,360
the time.
Like, I can make you grow.

1131
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,400
I'm like, no, no, I don't want
to buy.

1132
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
I don't want to buy people.
I want it to be real.

1133
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Yeah, real.
That's.

1134
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:38,400
Real right, And it's a cool.
Story to tell man, because we

1135
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,240
literally started it was him and
I with a 2 second delay from

1136
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,240
Illinois to Arizona and he dealt
with it like a trooper for 50

1137
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:52,480
episodes to the talking to you
who's someone who's, you know,

1138
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,720
turned their life around 1
moment to having jars of

1139
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:59,640
spaghetti sauce on the Piggly
Wiggly shelves in the matter of

1140
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,880
like a couple years.
You know, it's just.

1141
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Yeah, not, yeah, not even it
took.

1142
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,120
Several a couple years.
Within six months, I outgrew my

1143
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,760
production capacity and then I
started getting calls from Food

1144
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,240
Lion.
They've got 1300 stores, Publix,

1145
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,160
1300 stores.
You know, I've got approved for

1146
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Walmart.
I'm in their system too now and

1147
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,040
I'm just waiting, yeah.
Very cool.

1148
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,040
So let me ask you, let me ask
you this, and you don't have to

1149
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,360
answer the question if it's too
personal.

1150
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Like, OK, so say you sell.
You sell it a jar, say for 10

1151
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,600
bucks, right?
A jar of your sauce.

1152
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,400
And then Walmart takes it, puts
it on their shelves for 10

1153
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,960
bucks.
So how much of that 10 bucks do

1154
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,520
you see?
You know, So what?

1155
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:39,280
No, I have my, my production
cost, my, my cogs, you know

1156
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,240
which and then I'm more.
I'm more question.

1157
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,880
I'm more than 10 cost.
Yeah, I'm not going to give up

1158
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,240
exact numbers, but I mark it up
to the distributor, the middle

1159
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,800
man, right, or the store, the
retailer, and then they mark it

1160
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,920
up.
They got to make a certain

1161
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,400
percentage to the end user.
So when my my product lands on

1162
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,640
the shelf at 999, you know,
everybody's eating.

1163
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,760
Let's just put it that way.
OK, cool.

1164
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,280
Well, yeah, because you know,
with music like you like Snoop,

1165
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Snoop Dogg was famous for one of
his one of his songs hit a hit a

1166
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,240
million downloads and he made
30.

1167
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:15,240
Randolph that a million 1
billion with AB and he made 40.

1168
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:18,280
6000, yeah.
So that's, that's so I know it's

1169
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,280
a percentage thing, right?
So I wasn't, I didn't want you

1170
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,240
to give up the entire thing, but
like, hey, if you know, like

1171
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,400
like I had a conversation with
the with the butt rub guy and I

1172
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,000
just, I know the answer to him
because I was just wondering if

1173
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,480
it's got to be kind of the same
thing because obviously it's got

1174
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,280
to be.
They're looking.

1175
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,040
You're looking for percentage on
your margin, right?

1176
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,520
We want to.
Because you have to make money.

1177
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,040
They have to make money.
I get all yeah.

1178
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,400
Yeah.
So I mean, so I've sold 7038

1179
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,640
jars in six months, which equals
about $48,000, right.

1180
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,560
But that was my break even.
I put that much money into

1181
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,000
making that happen.
And that's at 15 stores.

1182
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,560
So it's, it's a volume game, you
know, it's high volume, low, low

1183
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,040
margins.
Whereas on the on the, on the

1184
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,560
perfume, you know, the margins
are a lot higher.

1185
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,920
So you don't have to sell as
many of them to make the same

1186
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,480
money.
Right on.

1187
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,400
Sure.
Cool.

1188
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,400
That's cool.
So I wonder, let me know when

1189
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,760
you come up with a with a, with
a pasta sauce perfume, because

1190
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,680
then I'll put it behind my ear
and see if my wife wants to

1191
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,480
nebulize.
I might do, I might do a

1192
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,440
commercial.
I might do a commercial like

1193
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
that spraying sauce all over my
face or some shit that.

1194
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,360
Would get people's attention
man.

1195
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,640
It sure would.
Yeah, it sure would.

1196
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,600
That's awesome.
That's awesome.

1197
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,200
All right, so if you want to
find Joe, you just go to

1198
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,240
posteoli.com.
You can also find him on

1199
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,680
Facebook at Joe Gallagher
Junior.

1200
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,560
He's also on Instagram.
Let me pull up your let me pull

1201
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,960
up your Instagram.
I had it a minute ago just so I

1202
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,240
can share that so people can see
you on the Instagram.

1203
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,840
Yeah, I've got, I've got three
different Instagrams, 3

1204
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,440
different Facebooks, you know,
Apostoli, Low Country.

1205
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,240
One comes yeah, yeah, this one's
coming right off your right off

1206
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,240
your website.
The the, the, yeah.

1207
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,960
So, oh, we're not following.
There we go following.

1208
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,640
So there's.
Instagram.

1209
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,720
Page, you know.
I'll go follow you from the

1210
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,440
podcast page too.
Yeah, and all the different

1211
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,840
hats.
So if you've seen one of the

1212
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,840
Yankees hat, definitely talk to
him about the Yankees because

1213
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,680
he's a huge Yankee fan and a
Braves fan.

1214
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,240
He.
Loves to talk baseball and

1215
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,200
Georgia football.
Goodbye.

1216
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,240
Fuck you, Chris.
Fuck you, Mike.

1217
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Yeah, he'll, he'll entertain you
for hours.

1218
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,280
I'll shoot.
I'll blow my brains out.

1219
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,360
Somebody starts talking to me
about baseball.

1220
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,880
You talk.
To him about a pasta, a pasta

1221
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,600
totally.
Yeah, yeah.

1222
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,120
That's it.
That's awesome.

1223
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,280
That's awesome.
And go by go from bars to jars.

1224
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,040
Yeah, a saucy redemption story.
Joe.

1225
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,280
Joe Gallagher Junior, you can
find him on all the social media

1226
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,120
things.
Go check him out.

1227
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,040
Go buy his book.
Dude, you're in South Carolina.

1228
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,360
You can go meet and greets and
all that kind of jazz.

1229
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,280
Dude, what an amazing life
resume.

1230
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Dude, an amazing life resume.
And here I thought you just a

1231
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,840
guy who is a chef and wrote a
book.

1232
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,360
So you completely just.
But again, that's why we do it,

1233
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,680
how we do it, because.
It's that's what made more so

1234
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,280
much fun too.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause we learned so

1235
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,920
much about you.
I appreciate you guys.

1236
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Time and and your life, it's
just.

1237
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,440
What a We appreciate you,
brother.

1238
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Yeah, and now you're married,
you got a business you're going

1239
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,720
to go into into the the boob
tube and have the TV show going

1240
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,880
on.
Maybe that's going to launch

1241
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,480
into, you know, big screen and
stuff.

1242
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,200
That's outstanding, man.
Yeah, there's no telling.

1243
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,760
Good for you.
And just to put this into

1244
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,560
perspective for you, the reason
that we do this this way is

1245
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Chris and I could, we've already
paid for all this, right?

1246
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,240
We, him and I could talk to each
other till the cows come home.

1247
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Yeah.
It was fun for a while.

1248
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,560
And we've done so much of what
we're doing right now that I

1249
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,640
agree with what he said.
You know, it's time to, you

1250
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,240
know, maybe have a couple
episodes for ourselves again,

1251
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,920
that's how far we've become from
that, right?

1252
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,880
But this is so much fun, man.
We'd I don't think either one of

1253
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,600
us realized what this is, what
it was going to become, and how

1254
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,560
much fun it's become to. 28
countries now 28 countries.

1255
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Wow, that's just.
Mind boggling to me and the.

1256
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Numbers are starting to, like
you said with your, you know,

1257
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,440
it's a numbers game, right?
It's the same thing with doing

1258
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,960
this.
We started out, Nope, nobody was

1259
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,320
watching.
Nobody cared.

1260
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,400
We'd get two or three views.
And it was great.

1261
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,320
You know, hey, somebody watched
it, didn't say no views, right.

1262
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,240
Right.
To the point where the other

1263
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,960
day, for some reason, we had a
huge spike where somebody found

1264
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,600
it in the Matrix, right.
And a new 128 people found it,

1265
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,040
right?
And about 46% of them signed up.

1266
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,200
So yeah.
Like Chris, that's really good.

1267
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,640
It was encouraging 2. 1000 to
2100, almost overnight.

1268
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,320
Yeah, it's just weird.
You fall into these little

1269
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,240
algorithms that just work.
Yep, Yep.

1270
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Yep, Yep.
So it's cool, Joe, you're a

1271
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,240
superhuman man.
Great life resume.

1272
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Thank you so much for giving us
your time because time is

1273
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,760
valuable.
We appreciate that.

1274
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,440
Hey, thank you.
I appreciate you for having me.

1275
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,840
Yeah.
Thanks for the opportunity.

1276
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,600
Yeah.
Absolutely.

1277
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,000
So we always wrap up like this
and don't leave when we're done

1278
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
because once we once we stop the
show, we're going to give you

1279
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,640
some more details.
So if you are feeling suicidal,

1280
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,040
depressed, don't do it.
Go screaming a pillow, go

1281
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,880
journal, go outside for run, go
workout.

1282
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Somebody will miss you.
Somebody does love you.

1283
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,680
So the only way tomorrow is
better is if you wake up in it.

1284
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,480
If you can't find somebody to
talk to, text 988 because they

1285
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,400
are standing there right now
waiting to talk to you, to help

1286
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,120
you come off that ledge and help
you work through whatever

1287
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,240
struggles you're working
through.

1288
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,680
I'm Chris.
He's Mike.

1289
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,600
This is Chris.
My show.

1290
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,960
This is Joe Gallagher, Chef
Giuseppe.

1291
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Thanks again, Joe.
Super life resume.

1292
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Go check him out.
Go Gallagher.

1293
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Go yeah.
Joe Gallagher.

1294
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,200
Oh my gosh.
Joe gallagherjunior.com or a

1295
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,440
postioli.com.
You'll find him just looking

1296
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,120
forward to talking to you again.
Man, I wish you all the.

1297
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Best with everything.
Thank you.

1298
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,000
God bless everybody.
God bless.

1299
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,320
Thank you.
Yeah, you too bro.

1300
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Complete turn around man.
Fantastic.

1301
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,560
Love you brother.
Love you too man, Take.

1302
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Care.
Peace, Peace.