#158 - Troy Lee Campbell - A Life Overview

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And we're live.
And we're live.

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What's up?
We're live.

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We are live.
This is this is Chris and and

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that's Mike.
And over there is Troy.

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I buddy Troy Campbell.
We're live on twitch in the and

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YouTube.
This is this is the band Troy.

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That's me singing, brother.
No, it's not.

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Yes, it is.
It's Mike playing guitar.

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Just wait for it.
Nice.

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On stage, it says on stage right
there.

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That's me.
That's mine.

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OK, nice.
Yeah.

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Joe.
And there you have it.

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Nice.
The history, according to

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Nemesis.
Welcome to the show, Mr. Troy

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Campbell superhuman being so
those of you joining us, we are

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now this is Chris and Mike on
the Chris and Mike show.

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Join with us.
It's very cool superhuman with

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an outstanding life resume Troy
Campbell And if you if you

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followed us, followed us for the
last like what 100 + 50 plus

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episodes and you're what 3030
countries 29 countries 29.

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You know how much we appreciate.
We know how much we appreciate

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life resumes.
So Troy Campbell, hello and how

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are you today?
Thanks for coming on absolutely

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moment's notice.
I just want to clarify for

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Chris.
You know, I like to go by Troy

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Lee Campbell officially, you
know my initials TLCIII.

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Forget Chris for the mistakes,
but you know if this is TLC

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coming to you live this Friday
morning.

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Too.
Now we can say, now we can say

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we had TLC on the show that's
going to give us St.

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Cred, Absolutely.
That's right.

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St.
Cred.

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We will not be lying on any
level.

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The other cool thing about that
Troy Lee Campbell sounds like a

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serial killer.
It does.

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Chris, I don't know how I feel
about that.

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Thanks for you know, every every
time I introduce myself I have

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to include my middle name, but I
don't need to be accused of a

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serial.
Killer.

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No, no, no, no.
I didn't see.

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Him and I have this odd
fascination we do.

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Like, like, could you not last
day of Thanksgiving with with,

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with June's parents were here,
Skyler's husband.

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So we're all sitting at the
table, right?

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Both his mom and I think his mom
was there still at that point in

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time, Jake and and Sky and Nikki
and me and it came up, serial

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killers came up and like we had
this legit 20 minute

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conversation.
If they're kind of look at me

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like, wow, really you like I was
like, hey, dude, and it started

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with Ed Gein.
Oh no, it started.

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I don't know how it started, but
oh, it's Dahmer party.

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We were talking about a live the
plane crash.

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Where people ate.
Because it started with this

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feeding chicken meat to the
chickens and cannibalizing the

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chickens.
Because, because people think,

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oh, you're going to caramelize
the chickens.

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And then and then and then June,
which is Skyler's husband.

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She's like, oh, kind of like
the, the, the Dom, that party

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that, you know, they're the
plane crash with alive.

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Yeah, the Dahmer party.
Right.

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And then and then went to the
Dahmer party and that went to.

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Dahmer party, that's what.
It was right.

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But then, But then we all heard
Dahmer, so that opened up the

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Dahmer conversation, which went
down, which went down Ted Bundy

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and then Mark Harmon.
So it opened up this whole can

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of worms about serial killers
and stuff.

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It was fun, you know.
Happy Thanksgiving.

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Well, let's not let be that the
copic of my episode, Chris.

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No, no, no.
We're gonna talk.

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We're gonna so.
We talk about all sorts of silly

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shit.
I'm.

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Good with it, I'm good with it.
So.

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So tell the world who you are
and what you're all about.

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Yeah, absolutely.
So my name is Troy Lee Campbell,

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You know, born and raised in
Southern California, spent a lot

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of my days there, but now I've
spent a majority of my days here

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in Arizona.
What?

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Part of California.
What Southern California in the

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Empire?
OK, grew up in Beaumont.

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So it's off the 10 freeway.
You just driving on the 10

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freeway.
Oh, hey, there it is.

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And then you keep going.
It's grown a little bit since

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then, since we grew up there,
but it's been, it was fun.

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I enjoyed growing up in a small
town, you know?

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All that terrible weather you
had to endure?

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I know the weather was just
miserable.

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Actually, it was fantastic.
And then, you know, graduated

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from College in Southern
California, grew up close to

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home or went school close to
home, didn't went to.

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School for Troy.
Government, yeah.

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So I, you know, I walked into a
yeah, so I walked into my skin

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or into my advising office.
I was playing football and we,

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they brought all the new
freshman football players in a

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big room and like, hey, we're
here to pick out your major and

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pick out your classes.
So I walked in and they're like,

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So what do you want to major in?
I said football.

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They said, well, that's not an
option.

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So how about, you know,
something that you're passionate

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about is that I don't know.
I've always told my parents I

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want to be president of the
United States forever.

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And they're like, oh, perfect,
there you go, government next.

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And that's how I declared my
major SO.

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That's crazy.
I didn't.

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I didn't.
I didn't know you played

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football.
What did you play?

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I played defensive in my first
year and I got hurt and stopped

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playing so and then it shows.
Student government is my

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passion.
And what college was that?

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University of Redlands small D3
school so.

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Count.
Did you get a sound?

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Up a little bit, Chris.
My what?

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Turn my amp up?
He was talking to me.

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Turn.
Your turn your volume on your

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mic up a little bit.
Volume I'm all the way up is.

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My volume on my mic.
OK, Mic.

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Oh yeah, dude, yeah, we're
louder than him.

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Who's yours actually?
But yeah, but you'd be doing it

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all.
Do you still have that thing

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plugged into that cloud lifter?
I do.

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That's crazy, man.
Cloud Lifter Cloud lifter.

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It's a cloud.
It boost your signal 25

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decibels.
Oh.

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Cloud Cloud.
Looks fancy.

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It's not the cloud, it's the
cloud.

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All right.
It does.

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I don't know, strange things,
strange days.

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So did you get a scholarship or
did you just like walk on and

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play football?
Well, I, you know, I got a

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scholarship to play football,
but when I stopped playing

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football, that academic
scholarship that I received went

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somewhere out the window, so.
That's weird.

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Because you know, Division Three
they can't OfferUp football

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scholarship for athletic
scholarship they can offer

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academic scholarships.
So gotcha.

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Maybe that's changed since I
went to school, but Division 3

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wasn't able to give athletic
scholarships.

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OK, so you have no desire to be
president anymore?

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Oh no, that's not, I'm not
saying that's off the table.

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I'm just saying I want to raise
my family and I want my girls

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to, you know, live in an
environment where they're not

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critique for walking down the
street sideways so.

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Right.
And he does have two girls which

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are, which are just the fun
little little peeing little

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humans.
Yeah.

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How old are the Troy now?
I have an 11 year old and five

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year old.
You say hi to the running rag.

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You don't have.
You don't have to drop their

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names if you don't want to, but
you can say hi to your children.

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Hey children, good to see you.
Some people worry about dropping

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names and stuff, but the cool
thing what Troy does is he he,

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as long as I've known him, he he
he tags his girls on social

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media, which I'm assuming then
he has a page dedicated to them

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on social media.
So when they get older, they can

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go back and look at all the
things right?

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Is that what you're?
Well, that's.

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The plan, that's the hope, you
know, I want them to kind of

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relive their memories through
pictures.

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Some people will get weirded out
by that.

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I'll be honest.
Some people have some opinions

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about that and that's.
OK, No, I think that's really

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cool if that's the reason that
you're doing it, so that in the

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future they'll have all these
cool memories to go back and

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look at dad and you know.
That's what I thought.

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They'll see their progression
growing up.

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That's awesome.
Yeah, I took a picture of each

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one of them every day of their
life from day one.

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Well, sorry, in the first year
of life, day one, day 365.

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So I have that chronicled each
day from when they were born to

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their first birthday, and then
after that it was weekly and

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then after that it was monthly
and then now it just kind of

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screw out it.
I think that's really cool, man.

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Yeah, I did that with little I I
did that with little man.

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I had a countdown, a little
countdown board.

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So it started 365 days till I
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And then so the whole his entire
first year of life, there were

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some misses because Skylar would
would go visit June, you know,

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for a week.
And so I'd miss a couple days

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here.
And therefore, but but for the

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most part, and then I put it all
up in a video, a time lapse

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video.
And it's just, you watch them

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morph, you know, it's pretty
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That is really cool so.
Cool.

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Yeah, I didn't do with Trip
because I don't have Trip every

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day like I have Anthony, but you
know, it was, it's cool.

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It's cool watching them grow
especially I see everything I do

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with them is in Dropbox.
So I have Dropbox folders.

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So as any like every day,
they're over here to take

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pictures, upload Dropbox with
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So I have I have all their lives
digitally stored as well.

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So Dropbox.
Will be around for a while too,

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you know that?
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
So.

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So the fact that you played
football, it probably, you know,

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is why you're such a passionate
football player.

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And you must be super excited
because the the Cowboys actually

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won two games in a row.
Wow.

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This is unheard, Mason.
They won.

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This is serious money yesterday,
so thank you I truly.

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Think the reason you all invited
me on the show was because the

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Cowboys actually won a game and
let alone two games 2, two in a

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row against the defending Super
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participant and.
Against my better judgment, I

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actually bet on them two games
in a row and I'm very happy with

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the results.
So well, Mike.

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I need you to keep doing that.
That's the special sauce here,

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normally.
That doesn't work for me.

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Hey, it.
Works for me.

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I don't care.
Keep it up please.

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I just.
Had a feeling yesterday that

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after that performance against
the Eagles, like they're on a

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roll man, I just, I don't see
well.

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Let's let's I don't see.
Him losing to Kansas City let's.

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Talk about the Eagles game real
quickly, because in the fourth

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quarter there was there was a
punt in the fourth quarter that

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they said hit the scoreboard and
it clearly did not hit the

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scoreboard.
Yeah.

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What was that all well?
So yeah, I, I.

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Chosen to forget that I'm having
collective amnesia here.

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I'm not sure what you're talking
about, so we can go to the next

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topic, OK?
So moving around let's but but

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so that changed that.
See those little no, I mean,

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it's, it's legit.
I mean it's and it's not just

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the Cowboys, man.
There's there's stuff in the

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there's there's stuff all over
the place that you can you can

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lay Daniel Jones out and he's on
the ground for two minutes and

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you barely get a finger on
Mahomes and you throw a flag.

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It's like it's.
Unreal they.

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Really need to like get rid of
all the current referees and

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bring some new ones up because
there's so much, I think, and

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you may or may not agree,
there's so much.

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There's some level of corruption
going on with the NFL

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officiating right now.
Mike notices it from gambling

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and he's not, you know, well.
I think that's why they're

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pushing the gambling so much,
right?

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They're trying to get what the
market's doing or what the

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market's predicting.
So that way they can kind of

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manipulate the market,
manipulate the money going in

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and going out type thing.
Which is bullshit.

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Which is absolute bullshit,
right?

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Because back in the day, if you
gambled on sports, what happens?

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Pete Rose get kicked out, right?
And remember the ASU.

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I don't know if you remember
this, there was the ASU

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basketball player that got all
tied into gambling and was point

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shaving years and years.
I don't come.

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To that at all I.
Forget his name, you just said

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it, but I totally remember that
now, yeah.

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Yeah, he got.
Was that in the?

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90s.
Something and he was a really

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good, He was a good prospect
too, let me say.

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Yeah, he was.
Supposed to be like the number

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one NBA prospect that year.
Really.

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Yeah, I can't I I would have
totally not been able to

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remember that on my own.
But now that he brings that up,

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I I remember this story and he
was an.

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ASU guy, huh?
Yeah.

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Hold on.
I'm pulling it up.

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I'm pulling it up.
Let's see where it is.

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So how many games did you get to
play before you got hurt?

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Troy while he's looking.
Absolutely none.

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Zero.
Really.

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My poor nephew went through the
same thing.

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He never got to play live in a
game.

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He got hurt before the season
started.

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Unfortunately I got.
Hurt and camped my knee.

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That's what happened.
Well, he broke his leg in two

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places.
Oh my yeah.

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So I.
Can't really claim I'm a

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football player.
I went to play football.

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But you know, no, you play, you
just never.

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Got to play in a game
unfortunately.

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Exactly, exactly.
I saw a.

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Hell of a time camp.
Was a lot of fun.

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Oh.
I dude, I can't imagine Tory not

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having a hell of a time.
Troy would have a hell of a time

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and an insurance seminar where
everybody was 97 years old and

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dying.
This hey, I got to keep on my

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toes.
Yeah, this is the guy 25 years

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ago, 2018.
Yep.

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There is, yeah.
Stevie Hideki Smith turned into

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a campus bookie who who's just
fixing the game.

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So that's him, that and and.
Obviously I was still living in

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Arizona then.
That's why I remember that it

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was all over the news.
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
But that's the guy.

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And it was, it was legit.
Like there's AI want to say

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there's a movie about him
somewhere, a movie about it.

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Really.
Yeah.

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Yeah, let me jump back on the
way you guys are talking.

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But yeah, I I believe there's a
movie about it.

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Yeah.
What's it called?

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But so, so recently, right there
was a guy that in the NBA that

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got suspended because they've
they Chauncey Phillips or.

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Whatever it was, well, we talked
about.

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Somebody recently too like in
the last time about.

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Those two referees, one of them
went to prison.

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Two.
Yeah, 1.

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Referee.
Yeah, yeah.

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One went to prison for sure.
I can't.

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Remember that guy's name?
But I can see his face, yeah.

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I never knew about that.
That was a story that I heard

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about on Rogan, and then I
researched it myself.

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I was like, are you serious?
Somebody actually got busted,

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legally or illegally?
It was.

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The IT was the one that was.
Go ahead.

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Go ahead, Troy.
Oh no, I was going to say, did

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you know that I was also high
school football official for a

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little bit?
No, I did not.

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Just.
Recently. 2021, I think the

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season 2021, yeah, OK.
So let me ask you this because I

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coached, I coached Jake and Sky
right as they're coming up.

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So absolutely referees I didn't
always see.

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I no, no referees and I didn't
always see eye to eye.

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I was always, I was always
respectful as much as I could

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be.
So being a referee with with

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parents on the sideline and
coaches, how did you ever have

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to deal with that nonsense?
Absolutely.

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That's why I wanted to bring it
up because it was hilarious.

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There was one game in
particular.

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Well, two games in particular.
I'm saying one game in

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particular.
You know, I'm getting done with

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this game.
And mind you, it was freshman

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football, so it wasn't varsity.
There's no stakes in the green.

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We're finished the game and they
told us in our training, as soon

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as you get done with the game,
you have to leave the field.

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You don't hang around, you don't
deal with hecklers.

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So I and I didn't pack my full
set of keys.

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All I brought was my key, actual
key, not my remote or anything.

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So usually I have my remote when
I can't find my car, I push, you

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know, beep, beep, beep, beep.
There's my car.

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Exactly.
So I just brought my key and I

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was running around the parking
lot looking for it and I heard

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this guy from the stands go hey,
Rath can't find your car.

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Like you couldn't find your
flag.

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They've been holding us all.
Game.

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And I said what he's like, you
can't find the car, you can't

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find your flag.
And he was letting me have it,

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man.
He was ripping in to me about

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how I couldn't find my car
because he couldn't find my

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flag.
They were holding his son all

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game.
And he was just making sure that

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I knew that was your.
Did you just start getting

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anxious?
Did you start like your heart

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racing?
Like, oh boy, no.

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OK, that's good.
Did you ever have any?

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The one.
Time I get anxious, hostile with

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you.
Yeah.

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So there's one time in
particular.

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This was my my mistake.
I totally screwed this up.

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It was on a kickoff and they
always told us be careful of

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inadvertent whistles, like
whistles that you don't, that

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you shouldn't blow.
So anyways, they kick it off and

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I'm on the receiving team.
I'm on the receiving team's

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side, and he picks it up and
then drops it and then fumbles

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it on the ground.
And so I blow my whistle.

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Like, what the hell.
Like not thinking the play

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wasn't dead.
He picks it up and he keeps

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going like he's running the
other teams just stops, like

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looks around and because I blew
my whistle, so they stopped

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playing and then he took off.
He ran into the house.

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One coach was pissed at me
because he ran into the house.

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One of that touchdown better
team was like, hey, my parents

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heard the whistle, they stopped,
they played the whistle and the

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coaches were both at me.
Just what'd you do that for?

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What'd you do that?
And I was like so.

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I think I kind of know, Troy,
but for those at home, what do

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you do in a situation like that?
Because maybe I don't know.

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So in that situation, I just
worked with the coaches and I

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said, can we all agree that we
just need to recap like that was

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my mistake.
I owed my mistake a do over.

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Let's see how this goes.
And the kid ended up getting a

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decent run back like he probably
got to the 3540.

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I think at that point post
coaches were still upset because

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one one of their touchdown and
one one of the ball back there.

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But I think they got over it as
the game went on.

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But I was I was a mess the rest
of the game.

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I had to get my head.
I was rattled.

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So.
So why did you blow the whistle?

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It was a mistake.
It was, he wasn't.

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It was a mental just blank.
Like I saw the ball on the

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ground.
I was like, oh, game plays over.

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Not like an incomplete pass in
my head.

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I think that's what I was
thinking.

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He was thinking.
When he fumble it again that

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that play was over.
But really, that's still a live

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ball.
He just and he knew it right

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after he blew the whistle.
Oh yeah, shit, right.

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Oh, yeah, my white hat as they
described the white hat's the

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official, you know, the, the
head official and the, the guy

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on the field, he came over to me
and he's like, listen, Troy, if

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we ever have to do that again,
you're going to be taking those,

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those, those stripes off your
back.

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And I was like, oh, this is
serious.

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And then afterwards he said he
got his, he let his emotions get

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the best of him because he was
in the heat of the moment and he

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shouldn't have said that.
That was very rude.

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You're.
Not going to even be coaching

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pee wee football within 60 miles
I hear my friend.

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My friend, you're going to be
going out into the football

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hound.
Yeah, so that was a rough game.

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That was a rough mistake.
And they told us in training,

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like you have to be aware of
your whistle and it's in your

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mouth.
So like when you're breathing,

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you have to be careful, like all
the things you know.

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And then pandemic, we have
little button whistle little.

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Really.
Whistle maker because they

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didn't want us putting the
whistle in the outside of our

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mouth.
So we have a little whistle.

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But, you know, personal, it's
not ridiculous things.

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You don't just.
You just.

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Didn't go to the football field
and have a box of whistles and

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say, oh, I'm going to put this
one in my mouth.

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No, I actually gave it to each
player to blow first, make sure

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this works and then put in my
mouth.

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That's why I want to see if we
try to.

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That's stupid.
Like a whistle.

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Like a foghorn.
That would be better.

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A foghorn.
Little personal foghorns instead

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of whistles.
And that's what they use in.

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Basketball games.
That's crazy though.

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Yeah.
Is that that whistle is made by

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the same company that actually
makes whistles.

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That was their.
That was their We also have

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masks on.
Yeah, we had.

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Masks on, that's.
Couldn't blow the whistles to

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the masks, but really, why don't
you?

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Just have to cut a cut a hole in
the mask and put the whistle

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through the hole.
That's what I'm not as smart as.

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Chris Donovan.
So again, I want to talk about

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this too, because this was epic.
So.

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So Troy's a Cowboys fan and I'm
a Giants fan, and we've known

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that since probably since the
first or second time we met each

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other.
Yeah.

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I almost fired him to be my
realtor once I found out he was

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Giants fan.
Actually right it was.

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He was just such a good guy,
such a lovable guy.

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I couldn't, I couldn't help it.
My wife, everybody.

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Has their fault, Troy.
Everybody has their.

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Fault, I know.
Well, it's like Nikki says, you

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either love or hate me.
There's no in between.

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So but but we love.
You, buddy, we love you.

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We love you.
But we do.

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I forget what I forget when it
was, but tell the tell the

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Beckham story.
Yeah, so the the Pro Bowl came

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to Arizona.
When did the Pro Bowl come to

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Arizona?
I can look it up to you.

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So Pro Bowl came to Arizona
before the Super Bowl.

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Let's see 22,000.
No, not 2515, 2015.

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There we go.
So the Pro Bowl came to Arizona

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and we were living in Arizona or
in Flagstaff up at the time and

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had a buddy that worked for some
agency that was working with the

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Pro Bowl or something.
I'm not really sure how his

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connection was, but he's like,
hey, you wanna go down the hill

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and go to a Pro Bowl game?
And I was like.

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Well, how much are these
tickets?

456
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,080
Like I got to get approval with
my wife.

457
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,160
He's like, no man, I got free
tickets and I was like, that's

458
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280
ridiculous.
OK, So we drove down the hill to

459
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,960
a Pro Bowl game, went to the
stadium, showed up and you know,

460
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,040
the the Pro bowlers were on the
field warming up, doing their

461
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,120
thing.
And Odell Beckham junior, you

462
00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,640
know, the ones in miracle catch
back in the day that just

463
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,280
celebrated their 10 year
anniversary thing or 12 year

464
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,920
anniversary against the Cowboys.
He's running off the field and

465
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,360
everyone's like, hey.
Hold.

466
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,640
Out and he just throws his his
practice glove up in the stands

467
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,600
and I'm like, I got it.
Yeah, there it is.

468
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,720
That that effing catch right
there.

469
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,520
Awesome.
No, it's not awesome.

470
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,360
I hate it.
So he threw.

471
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,720
His glove up in the stands and I
grabbed it and I was like, oh

472
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Dang.
And I had guys up at the stadium

473
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,200
coming up to me.
Hey, I'll give you 50 bucks for

474
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,320
that.
I'll give you 100 bucks for

475
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960
that.
I'll give you 200 bucks for

476
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,680
that.
And I wish I would have done

477
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,720
that, to be honest.
But I think it went to a better

478
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,960
cause.
I think it went to Chris and

479
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,800
Jake.
Yeah.

480
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,160
And I was to it forever because
I didn't, I didn't like the

481
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,320
Giants, but I didn't want to
sell it.

482
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,360
I was like, I'm going to find a
Giants fan that I like.

483
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320
And then one day I was just, you
know, looking at it and I was

484
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,040
like, I like Chris, but do I
like Chris that much?

485
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,000
No, I like Jake that much.
I like Jake that much.

486
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
So I called Chris and said, hey,
I think Jake might want this

487
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,360
glove.
So, you know, Jake's an overall

488
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:33,480
badass serving in the military.
So yes, I I had to give it up.

489
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,760
Yeah, Yeah, he still has it.
And I think it's still worthy.

490
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,640
Cost frequent guest on the.
Chris and Mike show too.

491
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,880
OK, perfect.
I didn't.

492
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,280
Know to share his business
around.

493
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,600
Yeah, yeah.
And I got that that that's a

494
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,720
that was it was 2020 year
anniversary.

495
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,280
I think of that was it. 20th
anniversary.

496
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,000
I thought he just celebrated
something, but it was 10 years

497
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,920
ago that caught the glove, so
that's crazy.

498
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,280
Yeah, yeah.
He.

499
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,160
Just got he just got he just got
reinstated too.

500
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,680
I don't know why he was
uninstated, but he just got

501
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,160
reinstated to the NFL.
I'm not sure why I don't.

502
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600
Know how you get?
Yeah, unless he had PEDs or

503
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,120
something, I don't know.
But so, yeah.

504
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,240
So that was awesome because you
know, that's one of those things

505
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600
that when he did, I was like,
really like you've really given

506
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,400
me his glove because, you know,
I knew what a die hard Cowboys

507
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,080
fan he was, you know, So you
guys being Cowboys fan, what are

508
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,000
you?
What's your record now?

509
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,200
Is it 5:00 and 5:00 and?
65 and 6.

510
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,320
Five and 165 and one, yeah, I
really don't like that little

511
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,720
one on the end.
It really bothers me.

512
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,960
No, but that's.
The one thing that makes

513
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,880
football?
Stupid.

514
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,920
The fact that any game can end
in a tie.

515
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,240
Tie well.
What do that Mike yeah 1 and the

516
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,920
Chiefs are now what are they
56565 and. 5:00 and 6:00 Well,

517
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,720
here's why I'm.
Stupid because in college

518
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,040
football you can't end in a tie,
right?

519
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,880
You just.
I think you can in high school.

520
00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:59,240
It's weird I think high school
can, college can't, and the bro

521
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,360
pros can.
Don't quote me on the high

522
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,520
school, but I know for sure you
cannot in college because the

523
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,360
University of Illinois a few
years back had like 18 overtime

524
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,320
periods but you remember that.
I don't remember who they were.

525
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Playing might have been
Northwestern, but yeah, they had

526
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,880
18 overtime period, so that
can't end in a tie.

527
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,760
No, that's.
Insane.

528
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,880
I just don't like that.
I do.

529
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,280
I do.
Like now I but I do like now how

530
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,880
how like if the Cowboys and
Giants are playing OK and then

531
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,280
it goes overtime, so then the
Cowboys go down the field and

532
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,680
score a touchdown, then the
Giants are allowed to try to go

533
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,920
down the field and score a
touchdown where they made.

534
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,880
Yeah, I thought it was the first
touchdown wins.

535
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,520
No, it used to be the.
Update.

536
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,640
They they.
This, this year, this year, I

537
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,120
think it was the first year with
that, right?

538
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,760
Well, it was last year.
For sure.

539
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,640
Was it last year?
Yeah, so.

540
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520
There's no sudden death, so both
teams have the opportunity to

541
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480
match each other's scores.
So if the if the Cowboys went

542
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,280
down and scored a touchdown, the
Giants went down and scored a

543
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,920
touchdown, then I believe it's
the next score.

544
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,800
Wins or defensive turnover.
Got it.

545
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,040
Right.
Right.

546
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840
So yeah, it's yeah, it's
interesting.

547
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,800
Because my philosophy on why
there's no.

548
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,280
There's a lot to be a tie in.
NF LS because of the money, they

549
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,240
don't want to miss out on the
next games money even though

550
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800
they should just like stop
televising it instead of drool

551
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,960
out.
But they don't want to lose that

552
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,600
money, you know?
You know, I never thought about

553
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,600
that.
I think you might be on to

554
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960
something there for sure.
Yeah, well, and.

555
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,040
Mike, you said something earlier
this year that that there was a

556
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000
weekend with like two or three
ties or something or two ties or

557
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,960
something in the NFL.
And if you had bet on those, if

558
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,400
you bet on the probability of
ties, that the money line was

559
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,840
crazy, Yeah, it would.
Astronomical money, Yeah,

560
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,240
because the.
Odds of that?

561
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Yeah, the odds of that, like
Jake had a friend who bet $10 on

562
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080
on, I forget what game he said,
but if he would have won, it

563
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,800
would have won like $34,000
because it was that much of an

564
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040
underdog thing.
And then and they didn't, it was

565
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,480
like the last, I mean, it was
only 10 bucks.

566
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,800
Like I'm playing.
I started fandueling.

567
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,880
I don't know what, I don't know
what, maybe a month ago.

568
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,160
So I've been playing on that
one.

569
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,680
Yeah.
So I've been playing on that one

570
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,120
money.
I haven't even touched my

571
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,160
original 100 bucks yet because
you win your first spend on fan

572
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,200
bull, you get this $300 bonus,
but you can't cash out.

573
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,320
You have to use it.
You have to, you have to use

574
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,720
that money to bet.
But it's still it's, but it's

575
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560
free money, right?
So and when you win, when you

576
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,040
win with the free money, you get
that money.

577
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,120
You just don't get the $10.00.
So, so if a $10 bet got me a $25

578
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,120
win, I wouldn't get $35.00
because they don't recoup that

579
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,440
10.
I get 25 back.

580
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,280
So you know, last night I'm not
my.

581
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600
My nephew's all in about parlays
and ready and I just can't get

582
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,680
into it.
I'm not good at the parlay.

583
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Part of it, but I am good at
just making single spread bets

584
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840
and like Chris has been doing a
lot of prop bets.

585
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,800
I do, I do a lot of those two
where somebody's going to throw

586
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,040
for more than 250 yards, right?
Yeah, interesting.

587
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760
I like making those single bets
like that.

588
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,680
One of my claims to fame, Troy,
is since 2016, I have never lost

589
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,920
a dollar of my own money
gambling on sports.

590
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,320
I actually refinished the whole
I built the studio here, did all

591
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,840
the floors on 1/2 of my house.
That's all from sports betting.

592
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Seriously.
Yeah, See.

593
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,640
That's incredible.
All you got to do is go on

594
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,960
sports.
Center man, and they give you

595
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480
little tips.
And then like on the MLB

596
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Network, there's this girl named
Ariel Epstein.

597
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,400
She does like these pitcher
props.

598
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,120
She's like 70% accurate.
So if you just know what she

599
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,760
says every day, what's her name?
Ariel Epstein.

600
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,800
So when baseball season comes
around, make sure you watch her.

601
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,000
She calls it the Diamond K Play
of the Day.

602
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,120
So I record it.
On my YouTube TV, right?

603
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,000
And then I just Fast forward to
that section, figure out what

604
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,360
she's going to bet for the day,
stick it in my bet slip.

605
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,120
And last year she was 70%
accurate.

606
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,560
The prop.
Queen.

607
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,280
There you go.
The prop.

608
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,200
That's what the problem.
Queen.

609
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,400
OK, yeah, I just found her.
That's cool.

610
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,400
Interesting.
And she is the prop.

611
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,640
Queen Yeah, I'll share it.
I'll share it for the viewers

612
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960
that when I get into gambling,
we don't condone gambling boys

613
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400
and girls.
OK, no, but if you're over. 18

614
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,360
and you got some extra income.
There you go.

615
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,560
There you go.
So there is Ariel God and she's.

616
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Cute on top of it.
I've never heard anything.

617
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,000
No.
No.

618
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,480
So yeah, all kinds of stuff.
There she is.

619
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800
The prop queen.
Interesting.

620
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Yeah.
Kind of like that movie with Al

621
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Pacino and Matthew McConaughey
too, for the money, right?

622
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,120
But she's just a chick.
OK, yeah, I can't promise.

623
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,600
That I would listen to anyone
else on my betting, but that's

624
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,360
just me.
I don't know.

625
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,760
I I like my money too much.
I don't want to give it away to

626
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,000
no where does it.
Go when?

627
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,440
Where?
Does it go when you lose?

628
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,920
Like that's my question.
It goes to your betting.

629
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Kings to the mob.
Oh.

630
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,040
OK, Yeah, it.
Goes to.

631
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,000
I don't have a college.
Kid, it literally goes to two

632
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,880
college kids who had a dream
that they could play fantasy

633
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080
sports with their friends after
college who were going going to

634
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
spread out to different parts of
the country.

635
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,040
Right.
Right.

636
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920
They never intended for it to be
a gambling app.

637
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,840
They wanted to be able to play
fantasy sports.

638
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,320
What?
Yeah.

639
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
There's a documentary.
I wish I'd could remember where

640
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
it's at, but it was fascinating
because these guys became

641
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320
inadvertent billionaires.
Is it draft?

642
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Drones, though, Yeah.
They developed DraftKings.

643
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Yeah, True story.
Wow.

644
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,760
And then?
Right.

645
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,120
After they developed DraftKings,
but online sports betting became

646
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400
started becoming legal state by
state and you know, light bulb

647
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,680
went off over the top of their
head.

648
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Yeah.
Hey, here's.

649
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,400
A money making idea yeah that's
true story I just.

650
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Found just you don't need to
look it up Troy, because I just

651
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,120
found it on the Chris and Mike
show.

652
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,280
We're sharing the screen right
now.

653
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,400
This the DraftKings story found
in Boston 2012.

654
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,800
Our three founders set out to
create the best in class daily

655
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720
fantasy sports product focusing
on customer service excellence.

656
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Some years later, we now boast a
suite of products that millions

657
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,560
of customers engage with every
day.

658
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Wow.
But it all started.

659
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080
With their wanting to keep in
touch with their friends and be

660
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
able to play fantasy sports
online.

661
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,240
Same concept.
As Zuckerberg with Facebook, you

662
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,520
know, yeah, he wanted a way to
be able to communicate over the

663
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,960
Internet with his buddies.
Yeah, exactly.

664
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Well.
Zuckerberg also kind of stole

665
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,320
the idea well.
Chris, that is.

666
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Up for that is up for
discussion.

667
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,560
I'm not sure.
Well, no, I don't have.

668
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880
AI don't have AI don't have a
problem with him doing what he

669
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,840
did because hey, it's it's you
know, it's think about it for

670
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,720
saying.
Allegedly, Troy, so we don't get

671
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,960
sued.
Oh yeah, my bad.

672
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,280
But but think about it like like
anything in the world.

673
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Why is the screen not going back
to normal?

674
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,280
I stopped sharing there.
You go it's, I mean, I mean

675
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680
think.
About it though, you you, I

676
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
mean, like Jeff Bezos isn't the
first person that thought about

677
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,680
online shopping, right?
He was just the one that

678
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,240
executed, right Elon Musk wasn't
the first one probably thought

679
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480
about PayPal.
He was the one that executed it,

680
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,920
right?
Yeah.

681
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,200
But somebody's got to be there.
Got.

682
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,840
You true?
Oh yeah.

683
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Right, right.
Somebody's got to be there to

684
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,560
execute the idea.
Yeah.

685
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's no.

686
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,600
Different than what we're doing
here.

687
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,720
I had.
So what's our idea?

688
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,280
I.
Was afraid to do it by myself.

689
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Right.
So you help me bring it to

690
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480
fruition.
I I can't say that I did this by

691
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
myself because I didn't.
No, no.

692
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,480
You.
I don't, I don't think any.

693
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Of those people are claiming to,
That's what pisses me off about

694
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,200
like them saying Led Zeppelin
ripped off Stairway to Heaven.

695
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,960
If you listen to the original,
yeah.

696
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120
Go, go look.
Up this debate because OK, OK.

697
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Interesting the the original.
Is very close, but close only

698
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760
counts in horseshoes and hand
grenades, right?

699
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:59,360
And darts and darts so and pull.
And pull.

700
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Yeah, OK.
Stop you.

701
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Guys are you guys are killing
me?

702
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,520
And almost burning.
And almost drowning And archery.

703
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960
You know, Archer and I could go
on for days.

704
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960
Troy.
See, this is my love story.

705
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200
That's our next.
That's our next topic.

706
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
He's got my.
Crazy brain that you just.

707
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,640
He assured me I was going.
To love you.

708
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,920
And he was right.
Yeah.

709
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000
OK, good.
Good.

710
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Yeah, so here it is, the iconic
band, rock band we're accused of

711
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
stealing the songs, opening a
riff from a song called Taurus

712
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,120
by US psych rocker Spirit,
recorded three years before

713
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
release of the album Led
Zeppelin 4, which came the rock

714
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,040
behemoth.
Behemoth, behemoth, behemoth.

715
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Oh, so is this.
The is this oh, here's the

716
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,920
here's the controversy.
Let's see what happens here is

717
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
this am I sharing this?
OK it.

718
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,640
Is close.
Where's the Where's the volume?

719
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
There it is.
Oh, whoa, whoa.

720
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,320
That's loud.
Oh, come on.

721
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Oh, stop.
OK, I know that's so.

722
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Frustrating your fuck ton.
Is a standard unit of

723
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,000
measurement for amount.
Hey, that's us.

724
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Your.
Fuck ton is that?

725
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,440
25 shit loads.
A shit load is equal to 25 ass

726
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,120
loads, and an ass load is equal
to 20 to 50 something else.

727
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,120
So I don't think you have it
now.

728
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,360
Why we're on TON?
Why are we talking?

729
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,040
How much is an ass ton?
You may ask?

730
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Well, ass ton is 1000 units of
ass.

731
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Weights vary from.
Cheek to cheek, so a proper

732
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
conversion similarly cannot be
made.

733
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560
A shit ton is more easily
converted as it refers to

734
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:47,600
exactly 1 imperial ton of shit.
One shit ton is exactly .0907185

735
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,920
metric.
Why is this top?

736
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,000
Right here?
Probably not. 1st but we're all

737
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,320
about engaging and educating so
we hope you engaged you into the

738
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,160
shit ton fuck ton ass ton.
Oh my goodness, that's so funny.

739
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Most listen to real across any
social media platform, really.

740
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,760
It's funny.
It's funny that.

741
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
That just popped up like
randomly dude, and it's been.

742
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Shared here it's been saved 11
times.

743
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Thank you for whoever got that
much of A kill we we got.

744
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320
On some weird topic dude where
where I forget how it even came

745
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,000
up but then I just looked it up
and then we said something.

746
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Like, that's a, that's a fuck
ton.

747
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,400
And I said that's a technical
term.

748
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440
And I kept talking and
unbeknownst to me, Troy, there

749
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,120
he is in the background like
always on the Google.

750
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
And he's like.
Actually it's in the Websters

751
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720
dictionary.
I'm like, you got shit man.

752
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Yeah.
No, it's right here.

753
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Yeah.
Yeah.

754
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,960
I got you.
All right, we got.

755
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,080
To wrap this up, because she's
got a life and he's got to go do

756
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,800
things.
So you got to come.

757
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,560
You got to.
Come back when you got more time

758
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,800
brother.
No, I agree.

759
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,320
And I want to come back and you
know we'll get this going.

760
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,360
I appreciate you guys bringing
me on today, but we'll get

761
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,480
coming on our.
Our guest, we had a a snafu and

762
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,040
scheduling faux pas, so thank
you for making time for us and

763
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,960
definitely come back.
Man, this was a blast.

764
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Yeah, I don't like.
It.

765
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Once don't.
Don't leave yet because once we

766
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,840
sign up, we're going to make
sure you're uploaded.

767
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,639
So as as per usual, this is a
Christian Mike show.

768
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,120
If you're feeling sad,
depressed, suicidal, don't do

769
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,440
it.
Go journal, go run, go scream in

770
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,280
a pillow, go workout, go find
somebody to talk to.

771
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,320
If you can't find somebody to
talk to, text 988.

772
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,159
They are standing by to help
talk you off that Cliff.

773
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,880
Help change your mindset.
You don't want to be that person

774
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,679
that leaves a hole in somebody's
heart because you don't wake up

775
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,719
tomorrow because after all,
tomorrow is better because

776
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760
you're in it.
So for Chris, Mike had a really

777
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,400
cool superhuman, Troy Campbell.
We just touched on how cool he

778
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,000
is.
We'll bring him back in the new

779
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,880
year and we'll have an even more
dynamic conversation because

780
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,800
truly, trust me, you're going to
love this guy.

781
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,400
We'll see you next time.
Love you, Mike, love you, troll.

782
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Love you to your brother.
Thanks.

783
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,800
Thank you, TLC.
TLCTLC I'm not chasing

784
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,320
waterfalls.
We're clear we don't want to fly

785
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,640
and deserve