#2 - DLR or Sammy?

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Thank you.
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Hey, this is, this is the Chris
and Mike show.

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Mike's the one holding the
tobacco vape.

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I'm the one holding nothing.
I don't know what to do with my

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hands.
Like Ricky Bobby.

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What do I do with my hands?
What do I do with my hands?

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Welcome to episode #2.
So this is this is #2 season

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one.
Number two, I kind of stopped

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leaning out of the frame.
Season Season One Episode 2.

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Of the Chris and Mike show, what
are we going to talk about

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today, Mike, I think we're going
to talk about who was better in.

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A spot like that David Lee Roth
or Sammy?

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Who's.
Better Chris or Mike.

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Oh there you go Danny the the
damny that's like going to be

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the the then one is one of the
one of the top ten all time

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discussions I think in the music
world of who's better Sammy or

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Dave right my opinion is and I
and and you have to my opinion

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is that they were both great.
Right, because it depends on

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what you're looking at and and
why, right?

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Because the first song I ever
heard the the my introduction to

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Van Halen.
Ironically enough, because of

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our age, MTV played Unchained
and I was like, holy shit.

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These guys are freaking awesome.
Just you know that that that

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video, right, was the old school
video was just the stage.

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There's no nonsense to it.
It's just them performing live

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speakers stacked front of the
stage to the ceiling.

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Eddie.
Right, right.

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Eddie had that trademark red and
white whatever Frankenstein

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pants that he was wearing.
You know, shirtless.

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Yeah, shirtless, cigarette
dangling.

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Just, you know.
And David Lee Roth being David

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Lee Roth, like the front man
that he is, because he is a

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front man.
Motherfucker Can't Sing.

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We're shit.
He's out of key all the time.

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Forgets the lyrics.
I've seen him three Times Now.

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But he was a front man like he
he epitomized the front man for

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rock'n'roll in the 70s and what
would eventually be the 80s, you

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know and and and for his time he
was an amazing front man.

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He was also an amazing singer
for his time.

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He got bad.
He he how do I say this he did

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not age gracefully.
His voice did not age.

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You got?
Worse with age it did.

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Because Scott and I saw him.
I don't know, probably 9596.

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He was out on his A Little Just
Ain't Enough tour, and I believe

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we saw him at America West Arena
when it was still that they were

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well, he was amazing.
His solo band was good.

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He sounded good.
I agree with you.

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Something happened when he got
to about 60 years old where he

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just couldn't hit any of those
notes anymore.

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Yeah, I saw him.
I never saw Van Halen Original

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wind up.
I saw Dave when he did the Eat

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Him and Smile tour right after
the break up right and he played

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at the Madhouse on McDowell and.
The he came.

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I don't remember if it was the
beginning of the show or

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somewhere during the show, but
at one point in time he comes

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from what would be center field
of a baseball diamond and surfed

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down to home plate while singing
and holding onto this rails on

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this surfboard.
And just.

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And then he ended up on the
stage, like entertainment value

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wise, fantastic.
And then I saw him again when he

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came back with Van Halen and he
sounded like shit.

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I forgot lyrics.
You know it was obviously drunk

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walking around stage you know
gyrating and and pelvic

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thrusting and it just to me it
wasn't like dude you don't have

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18/19/20 year old girls in the
crowd anymore.

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You have you know 3540 year old
women are just kind of looking

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like what are you doing Dave And
then I saw him with Sammy where

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they were doing their tour and
they flip-flopped.

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One would headline and one would
open, you know, different nights

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and I did not see.
Again, the the he didn't.

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OK, so, so the antics, the
antics of him for that, for that

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show was just this kind of
stupid, like he was like pigeon.

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He pigeonholed himself from this
juvenile, you know, I'm 2223

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years old, however old he was
when Van Halen was at their

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peak.
With him, mind you, because I

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think they peaked even higher
with Sammy, they were definitely

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a better selling band.
With Sammy, they actually the

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Sammy era actually outsold the
Dave era.

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Oh yeah, absolutely tenfold.
I mean they became the biggest

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band in the world with Sammy,
whereas with with Dave, they

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they, they they owned
California, they owned the West

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Coast, they had their, you know,
United States dominance.

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But I think with Sammy.
Just, you know, and then I've

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heard stuff before, I don't know
if you, if you know this or if

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you've heard this, that one of
the producers wanted Sammy in

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the band way back when because
he thought he'd be a better fit

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than David was.
I don't know how much truth

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there is to that, but I've never
heard that I I could imagine

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that that could put.
I could imagine that could

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potentially be true.
The only reason that I would say

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there's a possibility that it
wasn't is for the for the same

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reason that many lead singers
ended up getting in a band.

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The reason that Dave ended up in
Van Halen is he was the one that

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owned the PA system get.
A trade system.

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Back in the day, if you were a
singer and you had your own PA

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system, you were almost
guaranteed a band, correct?

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Yeah.
Oh.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah, That's because that's

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the one thing.
PA system when I joined Nemesis.

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Yeah, you actually did.
Remember that you had that P?

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Yeah, you had that PV and those.
Nice.

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Tower speakers.
OK, That's right.

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OK, I forgot.
That was one of the casualties

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of me moving back to Illinois
was those speakers and that PA

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or the mixer was still in
Kevin's backroom.

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Yeah, yeah.
He ended up getting it.

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He ended up giving it back to
me.

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Oh, you ended up getting it back
years ago.

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Oh.
Nice.

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I I kind of, you know, like like
poked on like, dude, you know, I

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know you had a conflict with
Mike, but my gear's my gear.

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Come on.
So yeah, he.

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I forget where I'm at.
But he ended up.

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I ended up getting it back well,
and hindsight, I should have had

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to grab my stuff too.
You know, I probably would have

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tried if, if, if, if.
I think he probably knew what

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was yours and what was mine
because he kind of alluded to

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that, you know, I don't know, it
was a while ago, you know, a

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while ago.
Back to the topic though.

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So Sammy and Dave, you never saw
that tour, you never saw that

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tour.
So the night, the night that we

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saw him, is that cricket
pavilion, which is where you and

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I saw the the work at the time,
one of the most entertaining.

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Shows ever from John Mellencamp,
everyone.

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Kenny Smith's snare broke, his
snare drum broke and he went up

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and as he went down they had to
replace it.

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I do.
That was amazing.

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Remember that?
I do.

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Yeah, that was amazing.
And what was amazing, as we were

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both watching that moment at the
same time, because I know that's

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Whoa, did you see that, dude?
I would love to know how many

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people caught that moment in
time because I guarantee it was

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very few.
Only musicians, I think, caught

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that that had.
You know but yeah so so they

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played at Cricket, which is I
don't know what it's called now.

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They played at cricket pavilion.
Sammy was on 1st and he was in

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his prime post Van Halen.
I think he left, just left Van

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Halen.
I don't remember.

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But it was it was he was like
Cabo Abo Cantina was was you

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know he was everywhere.
It was like the lean, fit red

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rocker, you know.
Just fun.

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His show was just fun.
There was nothing negative about

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it.
He just came out and he had his

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little he had these little
dancers, he had the bands, he

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had his bar.
He had people on side stage, you

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know, pimped out his.
His tequila he made in Cabo Wabo

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and just start to finish was a
great show.

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Like, it was entertaining, it
was energetic.

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The crowd was engaged.
They were singing back.

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He did the Van Halen stuff.
He did his solo stuff.

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The Van Halen stuff obviously
was more revered than the solo

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stuff because solo stuff, 3 lock
box, can't drive 55.

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And that's all I really know
from him.

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I know he did.
What was that candy song from

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Montrose?
He did.

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Oh, rock candy, you know.
What I'm talking about rock

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candy.
Yeah.

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So that's really.
And then was one of his original

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ones.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And so, like his like straight

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up showmanship, right.
And then lights go out.

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They do the stage switch for
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We're all just kind of, you
know, crowd half an hour or so

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now since Sammy laughed and and
all of a sudden the light goes

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on and outcomes Dave and the
band like there was no.

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Showmanship to it.
There was no entertainment value

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to it.
He came out in this spandex blue

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suit that was, you know kind of
like AU cut so you could see the

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chest and the ABS left nothing
to the imagination how how tight

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fitting the thing was, had what
looked like like wrestling shoes

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on and just came out and started
singing and then he.

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He had the bottle of Jack.
He played with the whole show

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and that was his little phallic
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As he's walking around he's
drinking it.

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It just, it was, it was weird,
man.

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There was there was nothing in
my eyes anyway that it was just

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a guy up there singing songs
with no flash.

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No.
No fun.

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No.
No pyrotechnics, nothing behind

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the scene.
He was doing a lot of that, that

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martial arts stuff with the big
stick that he used to twirl

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around, you know, all up and
down as he's singing songs and

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shit.
He kind of half assed a lot of

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the Van Halen songs that, you
know, made him what he was.

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It just, it wasn't.
I left early.

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We didn't stay for the encore.
It was that kind of like, what

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the fuck is this?
Sammy and I, from a showmanship

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standpoint, from an
entertainment standpoint, from,

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from a vocal standpoint, just
annihilate him.

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It wasn't even, it wasn't even a
competition.

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It was just like get off the
stage.

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And I've heard Sammy.
I've, I've watched him and Dave

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different times with the
interviews and stuff over the

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years.
And Sammy said he was just the

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biggest asshole in the world on
that tour.

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Like they they wouldn't talk to
each other.

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Sammy wasn't allowed to go knock
on his dressing room door.

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He wasn't allowed to.
Engaging conversation.

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You know, before or after the
shows, they took separate buses,

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you know?
And Dave's never really

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elaborated too much on anything,
except he just thinks that

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Sammy's jealous of him, you
know?

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And Dave could do no wrong.
There was Joe Rogan.

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Joe Rogan had them both on.
As we talked about Joe Rogan

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earlier, I saw Dave and he.
Was talking to them both.

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I don't know if it was the same,
OK, yeah.

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So yeah, it wasn't the same
show.

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Shaved, but it was really close.
Like, all?

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Yeah, Right.
OK.

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Had he had Sammy on our show and
Dave on our show separately.

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I've never seen Sammy on there.
I've seen Dave on there though.

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OK, yeah, that was one of the
reels I just saw was was him

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talking to Sammy and it was, it
was kind of a back and forth

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thing there was there was a
Sammy question, Sammy respond

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and then the reel went to Dave
and something.

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Relevant to what Sammy was
saying.

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So somebody obviously met,
meshed it together.

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Yeah, I would say that's
something that somebody.

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Put together, Dave was his
typical.

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Yeah, well was Dave his typical.
ADHD on the show, you know, had

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to overtop laughing.
Everything was stupid funny,

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even though it oh 100% yeah,
that.

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That's just who he is.
Yeah.

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Well, yeah, I mean, you know,
the whole Brown M and Ms. thing

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was just a gimmick, right?
It wasn't real.

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Well, it was real, but it wasn't
for the reason that people

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thought it was, for it was to
make sure that the promoters

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were actually reading the
contract.

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Oh, no shit.
So many, yeah, many contracts,

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especially in the music
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one day after day after day
after day.

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The people that run the venue
are also doing that, and they

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get real complacent at just
boilerplate contracts.

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So they snuck things into their
contract to make sure that

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people were actually reading
them.

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Yeah.
That's cool.

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That's and most.
Of everything I've heard about

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Dave from marketing standpoint,
yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Dave was an excellent marketing

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he.
He knew, he knew how to promote

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it himself.
He knew how to promote the band.

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Obviously, back in the day he
was the guy with the PA system,

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so he had his shit together.
I mean, there's a reason they

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were successful.
He was one of the first real

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actual.
Frontman rock'n'roll ever saw?

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Oh, I agree.
With that, Van Halen took the

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arena concert to a whole new
experience.

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They.
Did.

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And then they took stadiums to a
whole new experience because

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they did.
They did stadium tours too,

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right when they were first in
Van Halen in the 70s.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Sammy.

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Sammy took me to a whole another
level just because of the

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harmonies and the range and the
melodies.

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And that's the one thing that I
don't think Michael Anthony got

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enough credit for.
Was his backing vocals.

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Helped to find, helped to find
the sound of Van Halen even with

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Oh no question was David or
Sammy singing?

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I like Anthony's background.
Vocals were.

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That's kind of awkward.
They were amazing.

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That dude had a voice like they
were Spot.

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On he had a voice like there was
no tomorrow, man.

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I mean the, like you said, the
harmony parts that he hit at the

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range that he hit, for a guy his
size, you would never expect

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that voice was going to come out
of that man.

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Not.
At all.

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And that was, that was kind of
why Van Halen was Van Halen,

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right.
They had, it was the full

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package.
I mean Eddie was Eddie and Eddie

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will always be Eddie And I I I
don't know if you follow

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Wolfgang or not.
I saw Wolfgang open for Alter

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Bridge earlier this year at the
Marquee Theatre and I never

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really got into him prior to
that show.

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I heard the song that that he
when he debuted, you know about

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his dad.
Never, really.

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It just didn't, It didn't appeal
to me.

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I wasn't like, it didn't pull me
in right.

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But seeing him live like he's
fantastic.

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He's he's got, he's got the the
stage presence he has the the

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power to control the crowd.
He's everything you want from a

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lead singer.
And then you have the fact that

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he can.
Like he shreds on the guitar

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like you can.
You can.

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When we were watching him, he
did that little finger tapping.

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You know, which Eddie wasn't the
first one to do the finger

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tapping.
I'm sure you know that it was

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some blue sky.
Eddie was not the first person

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to do it, he just perfected it.
Nope.

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Right.
That's what I was going to say.

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Yep.
He just took it to a whole new

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level.
Like, look what I can do.

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And you can't do it as good as I
can.

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So Wolfgang did a little bit of
that, but not too much, which I

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was kind of.
I was kind of glad with that

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because.
I don't think Wolfgang wants to

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get pigeonholed as any Van Halen
son, you know?

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No, I actually follow him on
Facebook and he no, you're

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right, 100%, because I thought,
yeah, I follow him on Facebook,

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Instagram.
He's totally not wanting to be.

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He understands he's in his
father's shadow, but he's doing

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everything he can to get out of
that.

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And he's very interactive with
his fans.

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Like if people talk shit to him,
he talks shit right back to him.

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He he's super interactive with
the people that are on social

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media, so you got to be careful
fucking with him.

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And I admire him for that.
That's cool.

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Yeah, no, he was on on stage
that night.

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He was really engaged and he
talked to the crowd.

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He he praised the crowd for
knowing some of his songs and

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singing back to it several
times.

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You said we're the, you know,
which all bands do it?

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Oh, you're the best crowd on
tour to date.

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No, we never did that.
But then Alter Bridge was saying

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the same, right, right, right.
No, we didn't because we just

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had fun.
But Alter Bridge was saying that

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as well.
And then when the review came

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out, which I don't know how, the
review stumbled in my lap, but

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it did.
They they reviewed both Wolfgang

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and him as just Alter Bridge and
Wolfgang.

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Their performances just showered
them with praise like it was.

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It was very indicative of the
show if you read the review.

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Then you were at the show.
You're like, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep,

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Yep.
Just down the line there was a

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band that opened the the first
band was pistols, pistols and

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pistoleros.
I think really good band

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actually.
I think they, I think they

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opened for Alter Bridge.
Last time I saw them in, I think

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it was 17 on the last hero tour.
They were really good too.

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It was a whole all three bands
did a really good job.

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Wolfgang really impressed me to
to the point that I bought his

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next.
I downloaded his next album, his

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his most recent one, and I've
listened to it probably 30-40

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times.
It doesn't.

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It doesn't get old.
He's he's got, Oh yeah, I got a

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really good song.
I got all his stuff on my

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Spotify playlist.
I really make it too, man.

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I don't have Spotify.
You better get Spotify because

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that's where.
We're published this time.

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I think it's Spotify.
Yeah, well, see, now I have to.

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Now I have to.
So now Van Helen's in the Hall

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of Fame, right?
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

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correct.
Right, yes.

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And are they in there with Dave
or with Sammy or both?

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Because I I don't know that
answer with both of them.

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They're in there with both of
them.

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Yeah.
When you're a band, you can

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induct just certain members.
You can induct all the members

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and since they were successful
with both Dave and Sammy on

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massive levels, yeah, they're
they're all in there together as

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Van Halen I.
Thought so.

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But you know, Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame is such kind of bullshit

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right now with, you know, it's
ridiculous.

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Rock'n'roll.
Not hip hop.

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Not right.
Not.

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Not rap.
Not hip hop.

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Fucking Dolly Parton was like,
what?

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I don't want to go in the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame.

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I'm not a rock singer.
I'm Dolly Fucking Parton.

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I agree with you on this subject
because it does say Rock and

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Roll Hall of Fame on the outside
of the building, right?

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It doesn't say Music Hall of
Fame.

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If they want to have a Music
Hall of Fame, that's fine.

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Then you can put country, rap,
Rock Eastern, what?

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You can put it all in there, but
it literally says Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame on the outside of
the building.

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If you don't play rock'n'roll,
you shouldn't be able to be

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qualified to be in there, right?
Right.

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Right, exactly.
Exactly.

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And they have a country Music
Hall of Fame and I do they have

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a hip hop Hall of Fame or they
just or a Rap Hall of Fame?

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Yeah.
So there you go.

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So like Bono said, rock'n'roll
stops the traffic man and

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anything else goes the wayside,
you know?

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It's funny you mention that,
because I literally just saw,

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you know, Where The Streets Have
No Name video on MTV last night.

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When they stopped the traffic in
LA and they arrested them and

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all that shit, that was an
awesome video.

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I had to crank that thing up,
man.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I saw a little glimpse of

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of some of their stuff when
they're because they're doing

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The Sphere right now in Vegas
and when they play, their

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streets have no name, that
inside of that Sphere turned

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into that desert background, you
know, with the red.

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Oh, that's awesome.
Just on their yeah, on their

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flat screen.
I looked at the going going

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there.
It was fucking insane.

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Tickets.
Like, yeah, I'm not spending

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1200 bucks a ticket just to
watch you two in a giant Dome.

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Not going to happen.
Is that what all the tickets

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cost or is that the ticket
price?

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No, no, I think it's the average
ticket price because I was like

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I'm going to be taking you know
when I saw that.

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Yeah, well it's you know it's
you 2 and that's the opening of

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the skill.
I'm trying to find it.

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I, I, I subscribe to SiriusXM,
right.

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And so you too has their own
channel obviously and they had

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this little thing they do called
desire.

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So you listeners can chime in
and and you know, you could be

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be the guest DJ for half an
hour, whatever long it takes.

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You pick five songs and and
you're going on the show.

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So just for the hell of it, I'm
like, oh, I'm going to do this,

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you know, just to see if it if
it actually would amount to

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anything and should you not as I
pull it up.

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That was my release.
Yeah.

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So my 5 songs I I picked for the
show which I have to record

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everything explain it is running
the standstill.

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I love that song Bull the Blue
Sky, Exit bad and all I want is

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you.
Now thinking about it I should

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have been I should have added
removed one of those and did

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who's going to ride you around
the horses?

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But that was more because of the
video.

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If you remember that video, you
know because in all.

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Videos, You're lip synching.
You're not really playing,

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right?
Right.

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But there's a one part, man,
that was just to me is the

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epitome of Bono's personality.
He was singing the lyric, you

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know, blip singing the lyric and
he fucked up and he just stops

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like fuck and walks off the
screen.

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She can't see him and he comes
and he comes back.

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He's just like, you know, it
was, it was, it was fantastic,

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man.
It was the coolest thing because

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he really was so pissed off that
he missed.

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He missed the lyric.
I'm pulling up YouTube right

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now.
It's just like, you know, you

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two who's, Yeah, the black and
white one.

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Is it the black and white one?
Does it start off at?

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I guess it does start off at the
screen.

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I'm going to, I'm going to let
it play.

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I'm going to tell you what, what
spot it is so you can go, oh, oh

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shit.
Do you hear that?

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That was my Did you lose me?
Get my, my, that music.

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I was crazy.
No, I think that was my shirt

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brushing against the microphone.
Can you hear this?

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Oh no, I can't hear your music.
Wow.

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Wow.
I can hear it.

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I well, hold on.
I can actually hear the song in

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my headphones.
Can you do you hear it?

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I do not.
Do you hear the song?

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No, I don't hear it, OK, But I
couldn't hear you when it was

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playing.
That's a trip, man.

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So we're going to have to figure
that one out and watch it.

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Yeah, that's pretty cool.
But yeah, yeah, that's that's

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that was that'd be 5.7 million
views on this.

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It's 11 years.
It's the fifth single from the

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album Auctun Baby.
Awesome album.

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Awesome.
They're really good.

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They're really good live.
I I don't know how good they are

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not.
It's the age of them and stuff,

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but back in the day.
My guess is they still sound

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portion of Arizona was filmed.
My guess is they still sound

452
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,240
amazing.
I they do.

453
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,360
I I I would think so, because
they're not.

454
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,880
Their music is not that
complicated and he used his

455
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,520
voice effectively correct.
I will tell you though, if

456
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:29,520
you've heard him do acoustic,
it's not the same like he needs.

457
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,880
He needs the band behind him.
He needs all that going on

458
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,720
behind him for him to sound the
way he sounds because some.

459
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,160
Of the They're a They're a
strange band, man.

460
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960
And well, I shouldn't.
I shouldn't say this because

461
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,440
almost every band is this way.
The bass player and the drummer

462
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,560
could survive anywhere, but the
uniqueness of the band comes

463
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,640
from the guitar player and the
singer for the most part.

464
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:01,840
There's exceptions to the rule,
but you know your layers.

465
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,080
Your different unique sounds,
they all come from effects on

466
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
The Voice or effects on the
guitar, right?

467
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160
You don't have really any
effects on drums or bass.

468
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,360
Once again, there's exceptions
to the rule, but for the most

469
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,240
part, when you lay a song down,
the foundation of the song is

470
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,800
the bass and the drums 1st.
And then you layer all the just

471
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280
like baking a cake, man, you got
to bake the cake 1st and then

472
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,480
you put the frosting and the
sprinkles and all that shit on

473
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600
the top, right?
But that's how you build a song.

474
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,920
So the Edge and Bono.
Getting back to your point, The

475
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,880
Edge and Bono, yeah, they rely
on all those effects to make

476
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,360
that sound.
The edges sound is completely

477
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:48,240
based on delay, so if he doesn't
have a delay on his guitar, then

478
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,680
you ruin what makes the Edge the
edge, right.

479
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,000
His sound is that delay, and
he's perfected it better than

480
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,280
anyone.
You're right.

481
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,920
Certain bands can't pull off
acoustic.

482
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,360
I've I've there's stuff online.
No he doesn't he doesn't sound

483
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:08,560
anything like he sounds with the
band doing acoustic stuff.

484
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,320
It's just like holy shit who is
this And then wow that's Bono.

485
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,240
Like dude go back to the amps
and the and the Marshall stacks

486
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,320
get let's go get the music
popping behind you again because

487
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,000
he doesn't have that.
He doesn't have that voice you

488
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,080
know he just he just doesn't.
It needs.

489
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,280
You're like shit, man.
This ain't working for me.

490
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,040
It's filling the space behind
him, right?

491
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,520
No, no.
And I and I Bono, I mean, you

492
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,120
know that Bono, Morrison and and
and Vetter were my three.

493
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,800
Like, Oh my, the lead singer
said.

494
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,120
I just like epitomized this is,
if I could take a piece of all

495
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,240
of them and throw it into my
personality, I'm winning.

496
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,640
Well, I'll, I'll say that you
know Bono is one of those guys

497
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,840
that you.
I know people don't like him,

498
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:02,560
but if you can't admit that he
was the voice of a generation,

499
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,040
then you're just kidding
yourself.

500
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,880
Because you too was the biggest
band on the planet for a long

501
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,120
time, right?
Oh yeah.

502
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Oh yeah, yeah, Just.
And then and then going back to

503
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760
we were just started discussing
Van Halen was the biggest band

504
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,080
in America for a while there
too.

505
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,560
So you had.
Absolutely.

506
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,880
You had extreme polar opposite
type of music, you know, I mean,

507
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,440
the grants are both based on
rock'n'roll, but you know,

508
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,040
different elements for sure.
But I'm still watching who's

509
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240
going to ride you on horses
waiting for that specific scene.

510
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,720
Wait, there it is, right?
What?

511
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,680
What does that say?
4 minutes and 33 seconds into

512
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,360
the song. 4/30 4 minutes 33
seconds he's all pissed.

513
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Off 433, HE misses the lyric
man.

514
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Yeah, it's awesome.
It's it's, you know, it's great.

515
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,400
It's a great moment you get.
It's a great moment in

516
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,400
rock'n'roll.
So getting back to the point

517
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,640
that you just made though, what
does that say about the power of

518
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,320
music when a band as Hard Rock
as Van Halen can command the

519
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:15,040
entire planet, and then ten
years later a band as pop rock

520
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
as you too can command the
entire planet?

521
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,040
It doesn't matter what kind of
music it is, It just matters

522
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,720
that it's good, right?
It has to move you right and and

523
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,800
the biggest thing that right and
the biggest similarities between

524
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,440
the two bands, if we're not
talking anything but from the

525
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,000
musical aspect, neither one of
them were afraid to go in their

526
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,400
own direction with the next
release of their albums, right?

527
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Like they didn't.
They were pigeonholed and that

528
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
that.
I think from a fan standpoint

529
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,880
that speaks volumes because you
know they're they're not putting

530
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280
themselves in a box.
They're they're music.

531
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,800
They have to grow.
They have to change.

532
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,240
They have to evolve.
Especially you too, because you

533
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720
2 embraced all that electronica
stuff and all the like you said

534
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,800
the distortion and the voice
vocal effects and and the

535
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,360
different elements of music,
music.

536
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Like when remember when Van
Halen came out with Jump and

537
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,040
everybody's like what the fuck
is that he doing playing

538
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,480
keyboard?
I was just getting ready to say,

539
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520
so let's.
Yeah, so let's.

540
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,120
So let's expound, let's expand
upon that subject just a little

541
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,520
bit.
You got, you have two schools of

542
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,440
thought, right?
You have the fans that as soon

543
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,040
as a band changes, they get
pissed off, right, Because they

544
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,200
feel like they own that band
from the beginning.

545
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,360
There's nothing more.
So there's nothing more exciting

546
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,680
when you're a new fan?
To a band that nobody knows

547
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080
about, right?
All of a sudden you're like, hey

548
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,520
man, you got to check these guys
out.

549
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,160
You get a whole bunch of people
into them.

550
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Now, their next album, they
gained some kind of popularity.

551
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840
And for some reason, man, you
got these people who are just

552
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,720
like, they feel like they own
you as a band, right?

553
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
And you change a little bit and
they're not cool with it.

554
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Metallica was one of those
bands.

555
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,040
There's so many people that
after Injustice for All, nobody

556
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,560
would listen to Metallica.
There's two schools of thought.

557
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,960
You either love them as a whole
or you jumped off the bandwagon

558
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,400
after Injustice For All.
Van Halen was the same way, man.

559
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,760
They got so much shit for coming
out with Jump and it ended up

560
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,440
being the biggest song that they
ever wrote.

561
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,720
So I would say that Eddie knew
what he was doing, right.

562
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Did they ever have a top?
Did did.

563
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Did they ever have a top?
A number one song.

564
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Jump was a number one song, if I
remember right.

565
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,480
What's the number one?
OK, OK.

566
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,040
You're on the Google right
there.

567
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Check it out, man.
But yeah, it's a Google machine.

568
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Van Halen's number one song
tracks like Panama Drop, Dead

569
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480
Legs and Hot for Teacher retain
the guitar focused sound that

570
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,480
Van Halen was known for, but it
would be jump.

571
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,120
They gave the band the very
first and only #1 single by the

572
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,960
end of the 1984 tour.
That's what I thought.

573
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,240
I was pretty sure that was their
only number one hit.

574
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Yeah.
Good job, Mike.

575
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,120
I know a couple things about
music.

576
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,800
It is my favorite subject, you
know?

577
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,440
I know you do.
I know you do.

578
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,360
We've had many, many
conversations about music in our

579
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360
time, so now we're having them
with all of our friends on the

580
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Internet, right?
Speaking of which, one of our

581
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,520
new fans has a message for you
about farming, So I'm going to

582
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,880
tell you, let me pull it up
here.

583
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,240
My grandpa's got to put his
glasses on farming.

584
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520
This was specifically for you
farming.

585
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,680
This is from Rhonda.
OK Rhonda.

586
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,040
Rhonda show she is a first time
listener, first time caller.

587
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,680
She is a first time listener,
first time caller.

588
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:04,040
OK, so messenger, she said.
To tell you she just finished

589
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,320
listening to the podcast.
I really enjoyed it.

590
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Tell your buddy that to grow
good Peppers, add cow manure to

591
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,320
the soil, OK?
And her last comment was

592
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440
personally because it it jacks
with me.

593
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:24,160
Maybe she meant to say potatoes.
I think that maybe she meant to

594
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,640
say potatoes.
Potatoes were great, but Nikki

595
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,600
likes them.
Yeah.

596
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Or did you talk about Peppers
and I forgot about it?

597
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,520
On the last podcast I talked
about both.

598
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
I talked about potatoes because
we went back to the motherland

599
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,920
for potatoes.
You know, being Irish, German,

600
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,080
you know, we had a potato famine
in Ireland.

601
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,120
All right, I I remember now.
Potatoes, it's.

602
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Coming back to me, yeah.
And then we did talk about the

603
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Peppers, but the Peppers didn't
go very well.

604
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,560
So if there's lots of cows in
the neighborhood, I could just

605
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,240
walk up to somebody's backyard
and take a bucket and say, come

606
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,280
on cow shit, shit, cow shit, and
then I'll take the shit with me.

607
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,080
I passed the message along and
it was funny because her last

608
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520
question was what the hell is a
sitar?

609
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,040
So I explained that one as well.
Right on.

610
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,360
I always direct everybody to the
beginning of wherever I may

611
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120
roam, right?
Yes.

612
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Yeah, that's it.
Because I didn't know that.

613
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,080
And you told me that.
I'm like, no shit.

614
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,639
Yeah, that's a sitar.
So here's here.

615
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,400
Here's a fun little thing for
you.

616
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,760
Hold on, hold on.
We talked to I think I, yeah, I

617
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,239
was on here running to stand.
OK, I'm holding.

618
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
I bet that's it.
Oh, no, go ahead.

619
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Sorry, my bad.
Well, I was trying to see if I I

620
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,320
would love to be able to.
I think the Rattle and Hum

621
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,760
version of running the
Standstill is the one that I

622
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,480
fell in love with.
That album was just fucking

623
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,440
great, man.
I don't know how to start to

624
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,360
finish, just fucking unbelief.
It's funny how we start talking

625
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,520
about U2 or or Van Halen and now
we're talking about U2, you

626
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,920
know?
If I do like talking about

627
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,880
music, I sing.
It just goes all over the place.

628
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,760
But you know how I am too.
I mean, my whole thing with

629
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,200
music is I from a from a vocal
singer standpoint.

630
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:28,880
I always, I it's always what the
lyrics the lyrics have to draw

631
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880
me in.
If I if I like the lyrics, then

632
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,400
it's just game over.
Like when I when I first threw

633
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Pearl Jam I didn't really dig
them and then I got I got, which

634
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,120
is you know shocking.
But then I got somebody had

635
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,640
their their cassette tape and I
opened it up and I started

636
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
reading the lyrics and I'm like
holy shit, these are badass

637
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,400
lyrics.
And then it was just all over

638
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,120
you know all over.
So yeah, I'm all, I'm all about

639
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,480
lyrics and.
I apologize for that little

640
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,880
technical difficulty there.
My Mama was calling me Buddy at

641
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,960
all because I was rambling.
Oh, hi, Mom.

642
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Yeah, she just got back from
vacation, so welcome back.

643
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,760
Where'd she go?
They went up to the great state

644
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,160
of Wisconsin.
Where was vacation?

645
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600
They were vacationing up around
the Wisconsin Dells.

646
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Yes.
So they got some cheese, some

647
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,400
queso.
My guess is they probably got

648
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,400
some cheese.
You know, it'd be kind of

649
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,560
shocking if you're with the
Wisconsin and then get Didn't

650
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,480
get cheese.
Say I just got an e-mail from

651
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,080
what is this VIP Nation tour
update?

652
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,320
I have no idea who these first
three bands are.

653
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Doja Cat Gloria Trevi and two
friends, OK?

654
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,320
I'm going to say I've heard the
next three dropped her.

655
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,840
Majid Jordan now, Sam.
Sam Hunt.

656
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,840
I've heard of Travis.
Sam Hunt, I think he's is Travis

657
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Scott Blink one.
Is he is Yeah.

658
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,720
And is Travis Scott Blink 182?
Yes, Sir, He absolutely is.

659
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,280
OK, OK, good.
There you go.

660
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,520
So I didn't make a fool of
myself on our Chris and Mike

661
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,280
show episode #2 Season #1.
You know what's fucked up?

662
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080
I'm just going to tell you.
So foreigners still playing,

663
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,280
right?
Foreigners still out there

664
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,760
touring.
And they're calling it the Fair

665
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,800
World Tour, but there's no
original member in Foreigner.

666
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,120
How the fuck do you have a tour?
And you call your Fair War tour,

667
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,680
but all the original members of
the band no longer are playing

668
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,760
in said band.
So it's just the I don't.

669
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680
Know because the entire music
has had nothing to do with

670
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,600
Foreigner back.
Hold on it.

671
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,240
Is Mick still there?
That's fucked up, Mike.

672
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
I think Mick still might be.
Are you sure Mix?

673
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,280
Is he gone now?
From what I understood, man,

674
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,800
it's it's Fleetwood Mac is not
the original lineup at all.

675
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Fleetwood.
Oh, hold on, you said Foreigner

676
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040
musicians.
You said foreigner.

677
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Yeah, yeah.
Now you're excited.

678
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
I just typed in Fleetwood Mac
and I said Foreigner, what the

679
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,640
fuck is up with my head, man?
That was crazy.

680
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560
And I'm not even high.
Nor am I.

681
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,000
No, I don't want to.
Never list who's touring?

682
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,080
OK, let's see.
So here's here's the members

683
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,720
turning with former foreigner's
current touring incarnation.

684
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,440
Features from guitarist Bruce
Watson, keyboardist Michael

685
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Bloomstein, singer Kelly Hanson,
bassist Jeff Pilsen, guitarist

686
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,640
Louis Maldonado and drummer
Chris Frazier.

687
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,720
OK, there are.
That tells me there are no

688
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,240
original members because Mick
was the last one there.

689
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,160
So Foreigner, original lineup.
We'll come, we'll compare here.

690
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,280
There is original members Lou
Graham, which obviously Lou

691
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,320
Graham.
Oh yeah, Lou Graham, Mick Jones,

692
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,360
Ian McDonald, Ed Gagliardo and
Dennis Elliott.

693
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960
And keyboardist Al Greenwood.
Yeah.

694
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,280
And Mick was the last one there,
and he was still there the last

695
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:08,120
time that I saw them.
But that was about 2810.

696
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Somewhere around there.
Yeah.

697
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,720
Yeah.
So I think the only one there,

698
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600
it looks like Ed Gagliardi.
Is that what I said?

699
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,840
Yeah.
So the only original member

700
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480
still in that band is the bass
player, Ed, which we know bass

701
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
players can, you know, go
anywhere.

702
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,400
That's it.
So I'm sorry, I'm not going to

703
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,480
see foreigners to watch Ed do
this.

704
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,760
I'd rather see Lou Graham do his
thing.

705
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,280
But.
Actually, based on what you just

706
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,640
said for their active members.
Jeff Pilsen is the bass player.

707
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,320
He was the bass player in
Docken.

708
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,840
That was Docken's original bass
player.

709
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,280
Oh, So what is that doing in the
band?

710
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Because Ed's listed as the band
as.

711
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,840
AI wonder if he's playing.
I wonder if he's playing

712
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,280
keyboard.
Let's see.

713
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Bruce.
Michael, Colin Basses.

714
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
No, I'm sorry, I was wrong.
He was that listed.

715
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,720
So it's not so there is no
original member left.

716
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
No, there are no original
members based on that line up

717
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:17,720
you gave me.
Yeah, yeah, You know, which is

718
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,080
just who's the last concert you
saw or what's the last concert

719
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,760
you saw?
Oh shit, man.

720
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Let me think.
Actually, the last concert I saw

721
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,680
would have been. 2000, The Death
Magnetic Tour.

722
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,160
The opening night.
Yeah, it was the opening night

723
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,760
of the Death Magnetic Tour.
What's that arena down the road

724
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,080
from where I lived with Kevin?
They played there where the

725
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,320
Coyotes play.
Oh, HeLa River, HeLa River

726
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Arena.
I don't know if.

727
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,720
That's that's where we saw him
at.

728
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,240
OK, Wow.
Interesting.

729
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Yeah, and that fucking pussy.
We were in the front row, so

730
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,200
there was a there was a just, it
was like the heavens parted,

731
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800
man.
And there was a big opening

732
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
right to the gate, right in
front of James.

733
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,920
And we went up there and we're
probably there for, I don't

734
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,160
know, 15 minutes.
And he's like, I don't want to

735
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,840
be up front anymore, man.
Let's move to the back.

736
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,680
I was like, Jesus Christ, man,
you're in the front row of a

737
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560
fucking Metallica show for the
second time in my life.

738
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,440
I went back there with him.
Yeah, you should have said bye.

739
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,840
I should have.
I would have been like bye.

740
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Didn't see you after the show.
Yeah the only the only shows

741
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,320
I've ever been front row like
you know kissing the stage is is

742
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,720
both Ultra Bridge concerts.
I I Counting Crows because Nikki

743
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,360
loves Counting Crows.
I I I think that's the last one

744
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,440
I saw.
I like Counting Crows.

745
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,000
This is, this is, this is
October, August, I think it was.

746
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,880
They came Washington Federal
Theater, used to be Dodge

747
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,000
Theater.
You know we were second row.

748
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,080
And of course the guy in front
of me was was, you know, 65,

749
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,760
right.
So I put Nikki on the aisle.

750
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,400
I had seats one and two second
row.

751
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,160
So I put her on the aisle so she
could make sure she could see

752
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,480
because it's never ending.
When we go somewhere, she can't

753
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,920
see.
Not that she's short.

754
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:31,120
She's like 5, I'm 6 feet, she's
5-6, I think 5453, something

755
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,080
like that.
But yeah, as soon as the dude

756
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,920
stood up on my fox, so my entire
night was was bassy dude right

757
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,040
in front of me, shoulders,
everything.

758
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480
So I had to either go this way
or go that way.

759
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,440
I don't want to see anything.
That's always so much fun.

760
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,400
So it was.
It was.

761
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,360
And the reason why?
Well, and the reason why for

762
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,320
that is, is Counting Crows don't
have a pit.

763
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,360
There's not a mosh pit.
You don't mosh at Counting

764
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,280
Crows.
You're sitting down and standing

765
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,360
up.
So they had seats set up,

766
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840
whereas Alter Bridge you're, you
know, there's no chairs.

767
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,120
So legit.
The first Alter Bridge concert,

768
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,800
I was on Tremonti's side and
this last one I was we were dead

769
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600
center.
So you know Miles was right

770
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,280
there, you know, which is cool.
I had this T-shirt that said

771
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,960
believe in yourself.
And at the end of the show, when

772
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,600
they're doing all their, you
know, tossing up guitar picks

773
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,680
and drumsticks and shit, you
know, we're just standing, you

774
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,000
know, and like straight up just
looks at my shirt and then

775
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,320
follows up to my eyes and he's
like, which I thought was.

776
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,280
Cool.
That's awesome, man.

777
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,080
I met him.
I met them all in.

778
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,200
I met them all in 17.
I think I told you that before.

779
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,160
Super nice guys.
Just super nice guys, like, you

780
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,320
know, not, not wrapped around
what they do at all.

781
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,840
Just grounded, humble.
And I think part of that's

782
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,880
because I think Creed took the
three of them up and over the

783
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,680
edge.
And then when the staff left,

784
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,840
Miles came in and ironically
enough, I learned that Brian

785
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,680
Marshall, the bass player, he
was out of, out of Creed an

786
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,800
ultra bridge for a while due to
his alcoholism, due to raging

787
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,440
Alcoholics.
So I'm like, that's cool.

788
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,040
I did not know that, You know,
recovery and stuff.

789
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,400
Not either.
He's got a whole thing on it

790
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,040
somewhere on on YouTube.
I was watching.

791
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,920
I did something on the TV and it
was Brian Marshall, for love of

792
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,800
the music, I think.
Oh.

793
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,720
If I look for that, I think
that's what it was called.

794
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,320
I'm.
I'm going to look at it right

795
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,680
now and just see if that was
what it is.

796
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,920
Yeah.
For For the Love of music.

797
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,680
Brian Marshall.
It was released two years ago.

798
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Where can folks watch that if
they would like to?

799
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Brian Marshall discusses his
story in his own words.

800
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Yeah absolutely.
It's it's for the love of music.

801
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,240
Brian Marshall is on YouTube.
It's it was released by Alter

802
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,920
Bridge two years ago on their
channel.

803
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Had 66,000 views for what that
you know, whatever.

804
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,240
But he from the discovery of his
tone to his Rd. of sobriety and

805
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:07,400
life on the road.
So anytime I come across an

806
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,800
alcoholic being, you know,
approaching 19 years in February

807
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:17,760
of 24, I like, I like to to
learn about their journey

808
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,320
because everybody's journey is
different, which, you know, one

809
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,000
of these episodes will talk
about our journeys.

810
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,760
Oh absolutely.
But it was it was it was

811
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,440
interesting that I because I
didn't know that I had no idea

812
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
he he was he's a recovering
alcoholic, which is cool.

813
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,920
You know I I need to actually
watch it.

814
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,000
I had, I had stumbled on it for
something and I I didn't watch

815
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,160
it.
But there's a whole, there's a

816
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,760
whole episode on it.
It's a whole show on it.

817
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,760
It's not if anyone say it's like
an hour.

818
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,520
But as I scroll through this
now, it's not I'm not finding,

819
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,600
I'm just finding snippets of it.
But there's actually a whole.

820
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,120
There's a whole episode, a whole
story behind it.

821
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,880
I'll definitely have to check
that out.

822
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,280
Man, that sounds awesome.
Yeah, there's a whole lot of

823
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,960
musicians named Brian Marshall,
too.

824
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,680
Brian Marshall?
Rock Rubin, Mark Rubin.

825
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,800
You know, the guy that helped
Bruno Mars with Uptown Funk live

826
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,200
at the 4th annual Festival of
Texas Fiddling?

827
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,080
I doubt that song, by the way.
I doubt that's the actual.

828
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Oh, it's a great song, man.
It's a.

829
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Great.
That song doesn't make you want

830
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,600
to move.
There's something wrong with

831
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,840
you, right?
Actually, that was one of the

832
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,800
candy ass teeny boppers.
It's right.

833
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,400
And that's that's where it's
going with this.

834
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,720
That's one of those.
He was a candy ass teeny, you

835
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,080
know, teeny bop or whatever I
used to call scouters, you know,

836
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,640
music she'd listen to.
The only one that I ever felt

837
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,200
would would have sustainability
was Bruno Mars.

838
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Just when I learned that he
played all the instruments on

839
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,960
his on his album, right.
He's like a he's like a a small

840
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Mexican version of Prince.
Exactly, probably the same time,

841
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,480
just.
Him and Prince, he oozes talent,

842
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,440
you know?
Oh, big time him and yeah, I

843
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,800
mean him and Prince Stallone,
man.

844
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,400
I mean the Prince.
Just fuck.

845
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Not a lot of people realized
that Prince was so musically

846
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,000
talented that he played every
single instrument on every album

847
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680
he ever did.
That's why I made that post the

848
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:19,600
other day. 27 different
instruments he could play.

849
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080
Yeah.
And he played them all on his

850
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,040
first album or second album.
I know.

851
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,880
I liked it.
Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

852
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,480
yeah, yeah.
Oh, Bruno.

853
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,320
Bruno.
Oh, I didn't know this Bruno.

854
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,360
Mars and Morse day and the time
did a did a Prince tribute.

855
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,920
That's fuck.
Got to watch that shit at the

856
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,600
15th annual Grammy Awards.
And he was wearing Prince's

857
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,120
suit, man.
He's wearing Prince's purple

858
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,400
suit.
Right.

859
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160
That's totally awesome.
He's got the guitar, yeah.

860
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Right.
I never saw that either.

861
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,760
I'll have to look that up, man.
Good for him.

862
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:01,240
I hope he's doesn't.
Yeah. 59th Annual 2017 Grammys.

863
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,920
There's a tribute for Prince.
Oh, stop the commercial shit.

864
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,160
His chick's talking about it.
Show the fucking video, man.

865
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,720
There we go.
Yeah, it's badass, dude.

866
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,680
They were.
They sounded like they were

867
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,680
doing let's go crazy.
But the chick wouldn't shut up

868
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,240
talking.
That's commenting on it.

869
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,480
So trying to actually see if
they played the video.

870
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,800
Yeah, Bernard does.
Let's go crazy.

871
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,840
Oh man, I want it.
I'll definitely have to look

872
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,400
that up.
That'll be awesome.

873
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
That song just fucking ripped
Bruno Mars.

874
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,840
Let's see.
This is one thing we'll have to

875
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,360
learn that you can learn as an
editing standpoint of this.

876
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,920
You can drop clips, You can drop
what we refer to somehow and

877
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,720
make it clickable underneath the
the our podcast as we drop them.

878
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,960
But yeah, holy shit, 12 million
views from three years ago.

879
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Just Google Bruno Mars.
Let's get crazy.

880
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,960
It's the second one that pops
up.

881
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,680
Yeah.
The first one that pops up is,

882
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,480
is 5.8 million views.
And it was six years ago, the

883
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480
official video.
But the one that did three years

884
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,320
ago with 12 million looks like
it's a it's coming from from the

885
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,040
crowd where the one, oh, it's a
rehearsal.

886
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,760
The first one pops up the
rehearsal for it, which is I'd

887
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,640
be kind of like watch your
little back behind the scenes,

888
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,840
you know, behind the scenes
stuff.

889
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,520
Oh yeah, I loved it like that.
He's no, he did a Little Richard

890
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,360
tribute too.
Yeah, Little Richard tribute,

891
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,120
yeah.
He says he steals the show in

892
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,360
2017.
But Princess, let's go crazy.

893
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Well, I was with you, man.
I was way more He's badass,

894
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,000
dude.
I was way more into that dude as

895
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,440
a pop singer than anybody else
that was out when he first came

896
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,800
out.
I agree with you.

897
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,280
There was just something about
him that he just had that it

898
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,080
factor, man.
He commanded the stage for you

899
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,200
know, you hit the nail on the
head for being a little dude.

900
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,520
He should get lost in the crowd,
but he's so larger than his

901
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,240
persona, you know, he just or
he's larger than his stature.

902
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,320
His persona is larger than his
stature.

903
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,920
You know, he just seems like
he's 60 foot tall on the stage

904
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
and then you see him and he's
like 5 foot 4.

905
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,440
You know, some people just have
that ability.

906
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,880
You had that ability to be able
to walk on the stage and command

907
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,760
it, you know?
You have to be able to wrap the

908
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,960
people around your finger and if
you can't do that you're going

909
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,040
to lose people quick.
But I just.

910
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:40,360
I just yeah, my whole thing was
just you got to get yeah Bruno

911
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:48,400
or Prince was 5256 with heels
but I'm bump and and Bruno Mars

912
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,640
is 5/5.
So so Bruno Mars is is 3 inches

913
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,400
taller than Prince but with the
heels.

914
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,120
Oh holy shit.
Lenny Kravitz is only 5-9 dude.

915
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,760
Michael Jackson.
I'm 59.

916
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,480
I'm 59.
I seem bigger with the guitar.

917
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Yeah, I seem bigger with the
guitar.

918
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,880
Makes me look taller.
Gotcha.

919
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,560
So Prince had once.
Prince had a kid.

920
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,640
Their name?
The kid.

921
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,400
They named the kid Boy Gregory.
That's weird.

922
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,480
But he died within a week of
being born.

923
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,800
That sucks.
That's right up there with the

924
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,520
moon unit.
Frank Zappa's daughter.

925
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,880
Yeah, yeah.
And Dwezel.

926
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,080
And Dwezel.
Yeah, Dwezel.

927
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,720
Amazing.
Guitar player, by the way.

928
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Oh yeah, just for shits and
giggles.

929
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,400
Now I'm putting in Rockstar
Heights.

930
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,440
I want to see if it drops your
random things that help.

931
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,320
OK, 3232 Short Musicians who
rock the world.

932
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,720
Rodger Daltrey's 57, Prince 52.
John Mellencamp 5-7.

933
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,520
And that's another one that you
wouldn't think that he's 57

934
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560
because they.
I no idea.

935
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,440
Because he just he just the way
he commands the state.

936
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,800
Holy shit.
Bono 55 and a half.

937
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,440
You got to give him a half.
Wow, dude, there's something to

938
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,600
be said.
Check this out.

939
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,560
OK?
I'm going to write off these

940
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680
names, OK?
Roger Daltrey.

941
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,920
Prince.
John Mellencamp.

942
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,400
Bob Marley.
Bono, Angus Young, Malcolm

943
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,360
Young, Paul Simon Claus Mining
from the Scorpions.

944
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,280
The greatest band in America,
even though they're from

945
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,440
Germany.
Danny First back in the day.

946
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Lou Reed, Steve Stevens, which
is Billy Idol's guitar.

947
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Player.
He's a guitar player for Billy

948
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Idol.
Thom Yorke.

949
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,360
Bruce Dickinson, Right.
Bruce Dickinson.

950
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,440
How tall is Bruce?
Willie Nelson?

951
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Billy Joe Armstrong.
Bob Dylan.

952
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,400
I'm getting there.
Beck Hanson.

953
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,920
Eddie Vedder.
Iggy Pop.

954
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Axel Rose.
This is enlightening.

955
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Cee Lo Green, Bow Wow, Bruno
Mars, Ja Rule, Joe Man, Lil

956
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,120
Wayne, O'meric.
None of them.

957
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,160
Not a single one of them is
taller than 5 foot 9 inches.

958
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Bruce Dickinson is 5/6.
See, now he's another one that I

959
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,000
didn't Eddie Vedder's foot.
Bruce is the one I asked about

960
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,400
because I've never seen him
standing next to anyone that

961
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,600
made him look short.
The only reason I knew about

962
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,760
Bono and whoever else I
mentioned?

963
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,920
Oh, Mellencamp.
Because I've seen them standing

964
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,920
next to people who are tall,
Yeah.

965
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,000
Bruce is one of those people.
He he looks larger than life on

966
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,360
stage, man.
That dude is amazing as a front

967
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,120
man, absolutely amazing.
And he can fly.

968
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,960
That explains a lot.
And Bruce can fly a commercial

969
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,280
airline.
Yeah, he can fly at 747.

970
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.

971
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,200
And and he was bullied as a
child, like, like, like

972
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,720
painfully bullied because his
his mouth was so big.

973
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,360
Like he just, he got ridiculed
like crazy, Especially when he

974
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,120
was at school, which in in
England he went to one of those,

975
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,360
you know, boring schools.
And like legit, he got bullied

976
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,640
so intensely that he actually
took up fencing as a way to

977
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,920
like, you know, raise up arms
against his oppressors.

978
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,840
You're right, Master Fencer too.
I forgot about that.

979
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Really.
Totally.

980
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

981
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,960
But yeah, straight up bullied,
like like evilly.

982
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,760
So I don't know what the word
is, you know what I mean?

983
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:29,400
Just like tormented to no end.
So picture of Bruno Mars

984
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,320
standing next to Wow Keenan from
Keenan and Kel.

985
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,000
So Keenan must be short too
because Bruno's we said was 55

986
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,080
and and Keenan's only like a
nose up higher than him so he

987
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:47,280
must be like 5-6, seven.
Amazing how short these people.

988
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,880
That's why he never made it.
Dude, I'm too tall.

989
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,440
I'm too tall to be a singer in
the world of singers.

990
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,720
What are you, 6 plus feet tall?
It just doesn't work.

991
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:55,960
I can't.
I can't get on those.

992
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,000
Yeah, I can't get on those light
trusses.

993
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Well, that's why you were
hanging from them.

994
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,520
It should have been smaller.
I should, right?

995
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,240
Right.
Oh, now here's wow.

996
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,200
Here's surprising cat filled 6-1
large.

997
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Yeah, he's tall, that little man
syndrome.

998
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,960
Kirk Ham, Kirk Hammett's 5-7 and
Cliff Cliff was the tallest of

999
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,280
the bunch at Six Two.
I knew he was tall.

1000
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,680
You can tell that looking at him
on stage.

1001
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,880
Yeah, I did too.
Yeah, Hatfield.

1002
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,560
And, yeah, Hatfield and Cliff
Burton always towered over Lars

1003
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,320
and Kirk.
Yeah.

1004
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,240
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah.

1005
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:37,000
Lars is tiny dude.
He could be a Midget.

1006
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,000
Like, we say that Midget.
Or is it vertically challenged?

1007
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,280
Yeah, whatever.
Interesting.

1008
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Whatever.
Interesting man.

1009
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,920
Marilyn Manson.
What do you think he is?

1010
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,360
Because he looks like he's
really tall, 61.

1011
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,120
He's the same height as as head
fill.

1012
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,280
Yeah, I would have guessed with
heels.

1013
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,400
With heels.
Well then, he's 65.

1014
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,000
Yeah, it doesn't say what he is
with heels.

1015
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,080
Aussie's 510, I believe that.
I believe that Trent Reznor's

1016
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,240
only 5-7.
It's funny when you type in

1017
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,240
meatloaf because I'm going to
see how tall meatloaf was.

1018
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,520
First two things I get is
meatloaf recipes.

1019
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,960
I'm going to guess meatloaf was
about 6/4.

1020
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,200
Meatloaf was 510.
Wow, he's 510, my son just

1021
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,720
chimed in by Marine son Hoorah.
Thank him for his service.

1022
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,720
He's coming home 43 days.
That'll be fun.

1023
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:34,280
I'll have to get him on a on a
on a podcast.

1024
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,640
That'll be awesome, man.
Absolutely.

1025
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,640
I took him to the radio show.
Yeah, I yeah, I took him in the

1026
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,240
sky both to the radio show when
I was recording the show.

1027
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,440
That was fun.
All right.

1028
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Well, I got to pee again, so I
think that's a good time to wrap

1029
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,080
it up.
All right, brother.

1030
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,840
So what we learned today, we
learned that we learned that

1031
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,880
Sammy and Dave are both good,
good at what they do based on

1032
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,360
what we're talking about.
Yes, I enjoy them equally as

1033
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,160
much each because without Dave,
with right, because without

1034
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Dave, Van Halen wouldn't have
been Van Halen, but without

1035
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,280
Sammy Van Halen wouldn't have
been Van Halen, right.

1036
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,680
Because you know, United States
Van Halen was dominant, Sammy

1037
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,600
came in.
It was boom worldwide.

1038
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,280
And then we learned in the
lovely world of music that a

1039
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,280
decade later you get the new
biggest rock band, the world,

1040
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,360
which is U2, which came from
Ireland.

1041
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,040
So you have and and where were
where were Eddie and Alex from?

1042
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,240
They were from somewhere else,
right?

1043
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Eddie and Alex were from
Denmark, correct?

1044
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,120
They weren't.
They weren't there.

1045
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:41,880
It was there.
It was.

1046
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,000
I knew they were from somewhere
else.

1047
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,680
Correct.
Yeah.

1048
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,400
So you know, we covered the V
and EU of rock'n'roll TUV

1049
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,760
backwards.
TUV.

1050
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,000
Yes.
You know, maybe next time we

1051
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,080
talk about Tesla.
They're a good band.

1052
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480
I like Tesla, I like his.
I like the mechanical

1053
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,960
restaurants.
Modern Day Cowboy was my one of

1054
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,120
my all time favourites from
them.

1055
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,240
We actually opened up for three
of the members of Tesla.

1056
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,320
They were called the Sofa Kings
at the time.

1057
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,880
Right on.
Yeah, I would say at some point

1058
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,680
we will cover the biggest band
in the world, which would be

1059
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,080
Metallica at the time.
That'll have to be a whole

1060
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,080
episode unto itself.
Yes, we can.

1061
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,640
Yeah.
Metallica is currently the

1062
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,000
biggest band in the world, by
the way.

1063
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,440
Well, that's old, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, next to Taylor

1064
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,320
Swift.
Kidding.

1065
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,840
Kidding.
Well Taylor just did become a

1066
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,760
billionaire with whatever album
she just released that's I I'll

1067
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,840
give we can we can we'll close
with this as a teaser because we

1068
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,120
talked about Mataka that's the
one thing that that because I

1069
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,560
hated Lars for what he did with
the whole Napster shit right.

1070
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,240
Like that was like,
motherfucker, you got yeah,

1071
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,880
we're God and you're gonna.
Yeah.

1072
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,800
We're gonna talk about why he
did that, though.

1073
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Just need, right?
Well, I'm saying I, I, I kind

1074
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,040
of, I'll leave it there because
I know where you're going to go

1075
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,400
because we're probably going to
go the same place.

1076
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,520
But because of what he did and
enabled people like Taylor Swift

1077
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,800
to become billionaires because
they own the rights to their

1078
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,760
music from day one.
Especially since like when when

1079
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,120
Hollow council when we started
our path with Platinum Plus

1080
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Records under Universal is that
weird little time where

1081
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,200
everything was shifting from
labels to self to self promoting

1082
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,000
You didn't need distribution
anymore.

1083
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,360
You didn't because the Apple
Music thing was was coming down

1084
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,160
the pipe and we got stuck in
that box like there was nothing

1085
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,000
you know labels didn't know what
to do and and the download side

1086
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,800
was just starting.
So it's like why do we do, how

1087
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,080
do we do this how do we make
this profitable for everybody in

1088
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,440
the labels obviously like fuck
you this is how we make our

1089
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,080
money.
You have to you can't have

1090
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,040
control.
So that was interesting to to be

1091
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,720
on that in in that at that time
at the level that even though we

1092
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,080
really had a level but it was it
was interesting I still.

1093
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,640
And you and I and you and I were
in two different bands at that

1094
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,280
time because I remember you
trying to get us hooked up with

1095
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,760
that same label that you were
on.

1096
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,560
So that'll be a that'll
definitely be another subject

1097
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:18,240
for another day for sure.
Yeah, because that was a very

1098
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,160
interesting time in my life too.
What was that?

1099
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,400
Yeah.
Was that Angel and the Batman?

1100
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Is that the Band, The Angel and
the Batman?

1101
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,560
That was the band I was in at
that time, Yes.

1102
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,360
Correct.
Yeah.

1103
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,080
All right.
Cool.

1104
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,760
All right.
All right.

1105
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,760
Well.
Hey, it's Chris Denham, AKA the

1106
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,520
Iron Doc.
That's Mike Michaels.

1107
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,520
This is Mike Michaels.
I would like to give a shout out

1108
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,640
to my good friend Sunshine, who
without this wouldn't be

1109
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,320
possible because between you and
her, you guys were instrumental

1110
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,520
in me being motivated.
Because I haven't.

1111
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,680
You know, sometimes I need a
kick in the ass.

1112
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,480
So thank you, sunshine.
I appreciate it.

1113
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,880
Have a Have a good night.
She's the sunshine of your life.

1114
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,320
Name the band.
Name the band?

1115
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,440
No.
She's completely Sunshine,

1116
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,880
Sunshine, Sunshine, Cream What?
Is that band?

1117
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,440
I don't remember now.
Was it cream, sunshine of your

1118
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:13,920
love?
Yeah.

1119
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,600
There.
You go but right.

1120
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,280
But but he doesn't love you,
Sunshine.

1121
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,600
You're just a friend.
Yeah, she's completely hey.

1122
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,920
Until episode 3.
See ya later.

1123
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,600
Brother, I forgot how to shut it
off.

1124
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Can I just close my window?
No, you just.

1125
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Yeah, you don't have.
You don't have to do anything.

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I already stopped recording.
All right, brother.

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Have a good night, man.
Thank you.