Dec. 10, 2023
#6 - Tackling Religion (literally)
*WARNING* If the topic of religion is sensitive for you, then you might want to sit this one out. These are just honest conversations that we have had for years, and sometimes they are about hot button issues that bother some people. We just blaze right through them like any other issue.
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Oh yeah, screwed up already.
I just grew up.
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Can you hear that?
Whoa, can you hear that?
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My little Dings on my messenger
Dings.
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I didn't that time.
Do you hear a little doorbell
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chime every now and then?
OK, intro music.
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Yeah, screwed up already.
We are Where's my Music Shambles
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already, ladies and gentlemen.
So say again.
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I said everything's in shambles
already.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
Music won't play right?
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Right.
These are the golden moments
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that he wanted me to capture.
Absolutely, man, you can't do
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the podcast.
He'll drive people crazy.
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Why could you ever the fuck I
want you to know why?
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Because I'm Mother Fucking
Crystal real estate guy.
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Bitch ass motherfuckers.
I'm the Tower guy.
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The other guy, the Iron Dog.
You got all that right for
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recording.
You got all that?
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Every fucking bit of it, man.
And.
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The music still won't play.
I know music.
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I could just.
I could just, hey, you know,
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what can I say?
I had a bad day sipping on a
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bottle.
Just wasting time away.
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And I don't know what I've been
told.
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And I don't know just where I'll
go.
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I live my life and take a day by
day set my time.
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It'll never fade away.
Because I ain't perfect.
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Not the chosen one.
I find my piece underneath us on
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you to take me now, baby.
How I am Leave the red
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separation of sin.
Take me now, baby.
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Let me be.
I took my soul and eternity
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because now I lay 6 feet to
rest.
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I got no regrets.
I got nothing left.
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Just the time that was spent in
vain.
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Just the soul crying.
I didn't shame because I don't
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believe in the afterlife.
I don't believe in Jesus Christ.
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You always hated that line.
I don't believe in the words you
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say.
I don't believe what the
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preachers say because I don't
believe in the common man.
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Did I hate that?
One, because I'm a nothing man.
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Let me get rid of that gum now.
Yeah, you always hated that
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Jesus Christ line.
And there was one song, that one
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song I wrote that I said, I said
God damn.
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And you never liked that either.
I thought I was fairly religious
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back then.
I'm not quite as opinionated
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anymore.
Well, no, it's it's.
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No, no, no, no, no, it's not
it's not a bad thing.
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It's, you know, that's what
makes you who you are, you know.
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Like.
Well, I'm not religious per SE,
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right?
I would say that's how much I've
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evolved as a person because that
wouldn't offend me anymore.
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Gotcha.
Yeah, gotcha.
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I'm only offended if it affects
me directly, right?
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Yeah, my, my whole, my whole
religious, we'll call it, or
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faith driven background was I
grew up going to Christian
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Church wanting to be a high
school minister for a large
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chunk of of time.
I actually was like in like I
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knew the Bible, you know forged
back which probably read it
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three times with a young life
leader.
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If you're not familiar with
young life it's like this
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outreach thing that you do with
high school kids to help them
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find God in a non threatening
non like fucking in your face
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street corner, Jesus saves
thing, you know just like you
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and I hanging out talking.
It's just the vibe and the and
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the relationships and the
friendships that that once those
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things blossom, then you kind of
open the door to, you know, is
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your soul prepared or not?
Well, during young life, Part of
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young life where skits like you
do skits and you make shit up
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and engage the kids and have
fun.
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And that's kind of what,
ironically enough got me into
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the whole the acting bug and the
performing bug.
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Because you get up there and
being in somebody's house,
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right?
But you stand in front of like
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30 kids in the living room and
he put on some stupid skit.
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Like we had one that was a
playoff of Wayne's World.
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It was Garth and barf.
And then our barfing was silly
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strangling, you know, But that's
that's really what kind of got
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my left side of my brain, 'cause
I write, I was a writer, right?
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I always wrote, but that the
performing side of it was
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introduced through that.
So the reason I'm telling the
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story is I met a couple people
during my tenure in young life.
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One was a drummer and one was a
guitar player.
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So we formed a band that never
really did anything, but that's
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that came from that.
And that's one of the reasons
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when I left, when I ventured
away through my life, they all
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chastised me because I was
leaving this Christian faith
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group to go be in a rock band.
Like, OK, so let me get this
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straight.
You Christians who believe fully
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in you know he who throws glass?
What?
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Who?
I don't know what the fuck it is
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now, but you?
Know who the judge shouldn't
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live in a glass.
My experience, this is not, you
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know, Right.
So in my experience, this is
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not.
I'm not, you know, baptizing the
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world with a garden host.
I got in trouble for that once
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on our show I did.
But you're going to judge me for
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wanting to pursue something that
could totally have been a
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vehicle on all levels.
But you chastisize me and then
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cut me out of their lives
completely because I left Young
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Life to be a lead singer in a
rock'n'roll band, which that
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band ended up leading me to you
so obviously.
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That group of people were
Christians or Christian.
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Christian music, I should say.
That's what you were doing.
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It wasn't Christian music.
No, no, it wasn't.
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It wasn't.
I mean, you know, my lyrics, My
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lyrics have overtones and and
nothing's ever everything had
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more than one meaning.
Whenever I thought this was
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maybe like a worship group.
Or something.
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Nope, Nope.
Just straight up rock'n'roll.
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Just just, you know, just
straight up, straight up Rock
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Band.
That that you.
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Know they just happen to be
Christians.
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Which was cool.
We never didn't exactly.
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Kind of like you too.
Well, I've been in.
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I was in a similar.
Situation that foundation Kind
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of, yeah.
Yeah.
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So elaborate on your situation
because it's, you know you
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choose that.
We talked about 3 Doors Down
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having that when I saw them in
concert with Candlebox and how
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Candlebox Cover Me was full on a
song about Kevin talking to God
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being like, what the fuck, man?
What the fuck?
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Come on.
And I think more people should
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be like, what the fuck in the
relationship with God?
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Because I swear to you.
How do we?
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Well, I mean, I don't, I don't
want to go down.
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I'm listening.
I don't want to go down to how
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do we know there's God Rd.
Because that just irritates
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people.
We're not no well.
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Yeah.
Well, we're no, I guess where
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I'm coming from is.
We're not.
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We're not, yeah?
I asked that path.
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We're we're.
I ask that question every day,
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man.
I mean, I've.
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I've never seen him or her or it
or whatever.
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You know, to your point, people
should question what they
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believe all the time, right?
You got to think for yourself,
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man.
You can't believe what somebody
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told you as a young child.
They, you know, now that I'm an
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adult, I look back.
And if you go?
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What did those people know?
That we're trying to tell me how
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life was right?
They only knew as much as I know
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and I don't know shit, so.
Yeah, yeah, I get that and that
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that.
To me, if you're not questioning
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things every day, then what the
fuck are you doing with your
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life?
Because everything, everything
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has a question and answer.
I mean, hell, you drive me down
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the street.
I question who the fuck's in
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front of me, why they're driving
so stupid.
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Right, absolutely.
That's a question.
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So you have to have
conversations with yourself.
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And if you're not answering your
questions on your own
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conversations, there's something
wrong with you.
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Correct?
Like people that say you're
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allowed to talk to yourself or
not, but but once you start
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answering your questions,
there's something wrong.
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No, once you fail to answer your
own questions in the
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conversation you're having with
yourself, that's where
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something's wrong because
there's a disconnect somewhere
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in your mind that you're not
understanding.
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The conversation you have is 2
sided, even though it's just you
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having the conversation.
But there's Did you know that
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Long Day was written?
There's so many people that just
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go through their emotions every
day, right?
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They don't think about what
they're doing, yeah.
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Oh yeah, that's, that's, it's
the no at all.
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No, they don't question like
coffins driving down the
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highway, to quote a line from
Point Break.
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Great movie, Great movie.
No, and I think, I think I mean
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from A and we're on topic of
religion, so we might as well.
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It was, well, the original 1,
not the remake, but a. 100%
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Yeah, just piss everybody off
because.
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But since we're on this topic
when I'm always going to stay
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here so.
I've completely changed my views
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on this subject.
Why was I was going somewhere
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that with with the concept of
like I can remember as a kid,
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like a small child, you know,
praying.
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Like, you know, I don't.
It was never ingrained to me
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from the monster.
But it was ingrained to me
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because I was going to church,
because the reason we went to
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church is so she could fuck the
dude she had an affair with for,
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you know, fucking ungodly
amounts of years where we were
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at church.
And I stopped going to church
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because she stopped picking us
up on time and I ended up being
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the last kid standing in the
parking lot for an hour.
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So I'm like, fuck it, I'm not
going to church anymore.
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So that's all on her.
But there's always, there's
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always like I do a lot with
homeless and I do a lot of
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outreach and it's kind of like
that thing.
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It's like granite Every every
choice you make in life has a
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consequence.
But when when you when I see the
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things that I see at the level
that I see them, choices are not
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if if there's a God, where is
God.
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Like why would a 2 year old get
kidnapped, you know, raped and
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assaulted for five years and
just to be found and then
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returned to his, you know,
rightful parents at the age of
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seven only to be mentally fucked
up for the rest of his life?
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So now that's a miracle.
Where's the God in that?
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No, now that's a miracle.
Right.
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But it's not a miracle.
How's it a miracle?
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That's what the Christians will
tell you.
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I'm just telling you that you're
advocate here's.
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That's why.
That's what the Christians will
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tell you.
Oh, what the miracle?
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Yeah.
Yeah, OK.
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Makes sense?
I'm with you.
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I think it's fucked up.
Yeah 'cause I wrote a song.
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Last.
Band I was in, I'm Yeah, Yeah,
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way fucked up, right?
So remember the song I wrote?
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Letter to God in the last band I
was in.
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I do, yes.
Yeah.
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So there's lyric and there's
lyric in there that that oh,
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that's escape me.
But why?
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Why do you offer?
It's kind of like why do you
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offer absolution where the
sinners sit next to the Saints.
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Because in Christian the concept
of Christianity you the ABC's
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you accept and believe and
commit.
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So you accept your life.
You accept that Jesus died for
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your sins.
You have full belief in that and
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you commit your life to living
Christ.
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Like, right?
The ABC's not always be closing
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but you know so the story rumor
has it, Dahmer one of the
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greatest.
And I'm not saying that as an
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asshole, but I've I've, I've,
I've always been engrossed with
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serial killers and mass
murderers in that dark side of
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life.
I don't.
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Know if you and I used to have.
Probably because.
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In depth conversations about
that, I remember I have the same
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fascination.
Right, right.
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Yeah.
So, right my my fascination
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probably stems come from being
abused and what not growing up.
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And then so it's just it took
that dark side.
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But the way to me to channel
that darkness was #1 writing #2
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music and performing.
But then I just would be
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engrossed in these
documentaries.
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So Dahmer, rumor has it Dahmer
found God while in prison,
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right.
So from a Christian standpoint,
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if if you're a full blown God
fearing Bible told in Christian,
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OK, and I'm not slamming anybody
because been there, done that.
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I used to.
The worst thing came out of my
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mouth for years was Fudge.
Not fuck, but fudge nothing
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against it.
Either if it helps that person.
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Dahmer found God in prison.
Dom, Right.
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Dahmer found God in prison,
according to many sources.
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So if that's if that was a true
and accurate statement and he
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truly did the ABC's of
Christianity, Dahmer's in heaven
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right now, even though he, he
killed and cannibalized and
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consumed and chopped up, You
know what's never really going
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to be known?
The true figure.
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So we'll just call, you know, 20
people.
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But he's legit.
He's, he's sitting.
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If there's a heaven, he's up
there right now.
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Chill.
Or up there, down there,
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wherever it's at, you know,
could be the astral playing on
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the other side of my tree for
all I know.
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But he's in heaven because he he
accepted, committed or accepted,
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believed and committed his life
according to Christian theology.
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Now if you're Catholic, doesn't
matter what the fuck you do, you
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just die.
You just die and go to purgatory
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for X amount of years to absolve
for your sins and then you taken
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on to the next level.
So it's kind of like I'm I was I
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was born in the Catholic Church
because I was 2 1/2 months
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early, but I was baptized
Methodist, which is lazy
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Catholic.
I was baptized Catholic.
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So, right.
So see, you're Catholic so
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there's nothing you can do wrong
in the eyes of Catholicism.
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You could go out right now on a
shooting spree and hit every you
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know Circle K 711 putting cap in
everybody's asses and and end up
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having a you know a smoking the
bandit trail police officer
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coming after you like you know a
three day standoff.
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And you finally give yourself up
and you go to prison get
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convicted of this mass slaying
of all these Circle K workers
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and you're sticking it to the
man in your death row.
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And 40 years from now because
our government fucking judicial
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system is so fucked up you're
going to be put to death but
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you're Catholic so you're cool
man.
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There's like and you know
there's nothing wrong you just
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you, you say a couple hairy
Marys and and so be it.
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Why do you think all the
mobsters were Catholic?
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OK, I got a question that I
just.
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Absolution man.
They all got absolved for their
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sins for Hail Marys.
I've just asked this question
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recently, so I'll ask you
because I value your opinion.
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OK.
Being raised a Christian, you
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are taught that you have to
accept Christ as your savior.
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He's died on the cross for all
your sins, correct?
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Correct.
We've agreed that far, OK?
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Yes.
So what happens to the Muslims
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and the Islam Islamic people,
the Hindus, the Buddhists, What
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happens to them when they die?
They're all going to hell
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because they don't accept Christ
as their savior.
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The Jews, even the Jews, don't
believe Jesus was the savior.
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Oh.
What happens to all those
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people?
According to Christian theology,
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if you don't believe, if you
don't accept, believe, commit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Yeah, they go to hell, Mike.
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You.
Know so this is where my.
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Suffering in the pit of fire?
It's the back conundrum.
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Slowly but surely that's where
the whole thing unravelled for
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me.
So it started unraveling there.
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I'm like everyone else is going
to hell because they don't
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believe in Christ.
I I just can't accept that.
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The second thing, that the
second thing that made me really
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sit up and go what's wrong with
this picture is that I learned
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that we can only translate 75%
of Hebrew because there's no
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numbers in the Hebrew language
that it's all letters.
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So we had to guess at 25% of
translating the Bible from
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Hebrew to English then.
And also one more #3 was that
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Constantine commissioned the New
Testament to be written 1000
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years after Christ walked the
earth, supposedly.
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And whether he did or didn't,
there's a lot of proof that he
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did.
Right.
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But still, they didn't write
these stories till 1000, years
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after you and I are telling
stories that happened 30 years
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ago to us, and we're kind of
remembering bits and pieces as
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we go.
Along 20 right, right for 20
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years.
Right.
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These books were written 1000
years later.
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You're telling me those stories
are accurate?
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Come on now.
I know, right?
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Well, here's the other thing
that.
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That that Mary, you know the.
Immaculate Mother of God, yes.
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Right.
I forget who I think John did.
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John write.
I'm drawing a blank now.
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But John?
John penned the the the half the
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Bible Right was all based on.
Well, there's the book.
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There's the book of John, and
then he also wrote the Book of
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Revelations.
It's a wiping.
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Well, what it was is was was
Mary was dictating.
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I heard this somewhere.
I thought it was fascinating,
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was dictating to the disciples
who pinned the books of the
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Bible telling Jesus's story.
The problem is, is that Mary was
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was eating natural remedy
mushrooms while she was telling
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these stories.
So she was hallucinating the
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entire time she was telling
these stories and they were all
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scribing them down, writing them
down South.
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And there's nobody to discount
that idea that that she was
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eating psychedelic mushrooms
that were naturally grown.
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Because back then everything was
naturally grown correct, you
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know, and and everything was
just a trip.
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Everything was just a trip.
But like he didn't part the Red
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Sea, you know, as it or he, he
could not have parted the Red
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Sea as it's as it stated.
He could have just, she could
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have just been tripping on on,
you know, mushrooms.
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And in her mind he parted the
sea, where he actually just
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maybe, swam across it.
Right.
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The Adam.
What is it?
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You know the Adam Muscaria.
Burning Bush was because MO,
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right?
It grows readily in that part
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of.
The world and and Moses was was
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right and and and Moses was
smoking a joint and he flipped
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it, you know, And that's when he
caught the Bush on fire And he
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was too embarrassed to say, yes,
I'm smoking pot to point out
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that that was me that caused
that.
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So he just said, oh, it's a
miracle from God, God's the
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burning Bush.
So there's all these little
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things.
This is history brought to you
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by Chris Dunham.
They're.
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Also, we're going to get lit up
for this one.
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No people.
OK, here's my here's my homework
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for the listening audience.
Go out and do some research
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because that's what I did.
To Chris's point, there's
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actually a guy named John Marco
Allegro, and he believes he's a
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renowned scientist, author.
You know, this is a guy who went
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to school, got educated, did
everything that society asked of
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him.
And he really believes that with
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the amount of mushrooms that
grew naturally in that part of
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the world, there was no
Internet, there was no
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television.
There wasn't 57,000 things to do
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on Saturday night.
So they were picking up cow
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patties and they were eating
mushrooms and they were tripping
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their balls off.
And there's two things that
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people should not talk about if
they've never done it, and
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that's have children and talk
about children.
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Or if you've never done drugs,
don't talk about doing drugs you
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don't know.
You've never been there.
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I've tripped my ass off many
times.
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I know exactly what it entails.
I can talk to you about it.
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I've been on plenty of trips.
It's great.
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I highly recommend it.
Do it under a safe environment
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with a guide.
Yeah, but that's what those
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people were doing.
And let me tell you, you are on
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another fucking planet when
you're doing it.
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You you are seeing and hearing
things that you believe are
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there, but nobody else can see,
right?
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So are they really there?
Am I really there?
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Am I really here?
Right, That's the thing.
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Because that's kind of like,
right, Exactly.
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This could all be a dream.
This could be the Matrix, man.
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We don't know.
We could all be plugged into a
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little conveyor belt of just
body fluids that's fueling the
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machine.
Totally.
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Just think about it.
You're you're born.
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You live.
You die.
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It's it's like, correct.
Yep.
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It's like that.
Your life is over like that.
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Like I'm, you know, I'm, I'm on
the other side of 50 now.
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And it's that.
It's that thing, man.
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It's just like, fuck, you know?
How much longer do I have to
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live, you know?
And that question crops up into
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your mind more and more does.
It not like when I was, Oh yeah.
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And when I was a kid, 50 was
fucking old man like.
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Dude, we thought we were turned
40 when we were 30.
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Over the hill party and you know
I well, yeah, Vision, Vision,
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the whole Vision song was I was
going to be dead when I was 30.
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We all, none of us thought we
were going to make it that.
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Far, yeah.
Exactly.
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Well, thank goodness.
You know but yeah it's it's a
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trip that right.
And it's a trip that I I I've
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sold homes you know in my 25
years of selling houses because
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that's what I do for a living as
I'm the real estate guy for
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those of you that don't know.
So when you're ready to sell
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buy, you call the real estate
guy for Arizona anyway, but when
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if thank you, I appreciate that.
So when.
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He sold me a house, so I know I
would.
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Sell the the adult community
homes right So the adult
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community jargon, you know when
I first got in the business you
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know you'd you'd I was 20 what
was it 99 so 2930 years old and
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I'd I'd sell houses to people
that wanted to go live in the
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adult communities which are 55
plus even back then it's like
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it's like they were old like I
can remember like they were like
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legitimately 55 was old man.
Oh yeah.
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And now the 50 is like the new
30 it's it's crazy and it's not
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so much technology because the
right.
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I mean life hasn't changed the
way you live it.
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I mean I'm more I'm you know
obviously I'm a physically
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active individual and I don't I
don't eat shit.
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I don't drink and.
Something changed.
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Though smoke, anything that's,
you know, going to make me look
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like I'm something had to right
somewhere along that path.
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In these last 25 years,
something had to have been
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evolved because why is it now 50
year olds or like 30 year olds?
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You know, Well, like like it's
just it's a trip and it's not.
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I just saw something on Facebook
the other day that showed Fred
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Sanford, Archie Bunker, George
Jefferson.
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And it said, you know, like
Archie was 46 or 52 when he did
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that show.
And oh, Don Knotts was like 50
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when he was on Three's Company.
Dude, they look like they were
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next to death.
Yeah, they did.
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Totally.
I'm. 50 I hope I don't look like
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I'm next to death, right?
I just turned 50.
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I hope I don't look like I'm
dying.
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No, no, you know.
I feel good.
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You don't.
Most and most people will.
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Most people try.
Yeah.
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Most people tell me I'm I'm 40s,
like low 40s.
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One every now and then.
So you're in your 30s?
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Like, no, come on, don't, don't
kiss my ass.
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But I just you know and there's
but there, right.
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But then there's legit.
Like again because I do so much
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with homeless and I I I
coordinate meals and things like
450
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,040
that.
I'm on a board for a a Community
451
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,960
Center.
Some of these homeless people,
452
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160
man, could be 20 years old and
you just fucking look at them
453
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920
you think they're 60.
Oh yeah.
454
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,400
So it it really it's it's I
think a lot of it has to do with
455
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,560
what you put in your what you
put in your body and how you
456
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280
live and and I think drinking is
a big thing because I haven't
457
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,040
had a drink.
February will be 19 years and I
458
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,600
think, I think booze definitely
weathers you and.
459
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,880
You don't have to toll.
On your body, mentally and
460
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,200
physically.
You can and just with somebody
461
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,240
that's right, you know, just
been in the bar the whole life
462
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
or sucking down gallons of vodka
every day.
463
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,360
You're right.
It weathers you, man.
464
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Right, right.
Yeah.
465
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,480
And then you have the ones that
are daily drinkers, that it may
466
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:22,640
not weather them, but they it's
just a lot it it changes.
467
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,080
It's that whole concept.
Like we went, we started with
468
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600
the religion, innuendo stuff.
You're welcome.
469
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,080
But but like your body's, your
temple, it's the only one you're
470
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,280
going to get.
Like this is it?
471
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080
You might.
Whether you believe your soul
472
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,120
reincarnates and goes on to the
Astro planes and you go to
473
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:43,000
purgatory, you go to heaven, you
know, you go to Ezlene Fields,
474
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,120
whatever it may be, this is it.
You have one body to house your
475
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,680
soul, right?
So there's one of those things
476
00:26:52,680 --> 00:27:01,560
that Elysian, sorry, you know,
just it's what you put in.
477
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,560
Your body comes out whether it's
good or bad.
478
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,880
Agreed.
You know it's fucking 78° today
479
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320
in Arizona, December 5th.
Like what?
480
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200
What the fuck?
I had said that because I had
481
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,440
thrown my fan.
What?
482
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320
What is it in Pontiac?
Oh, it's not that bad.
483
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,000
It was like you like. 12.
No, it's just damp, man.
484
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,680
It's like 40°.
It kind of rained this morning.
485
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,480
It's just that time of year
where, you know, it's just cold.
486
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Even at 40, it's cold.
Yeah, yeah, I had a buddy.
487
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Yeah, I oh, fucking 40s cold
here, dude.
488
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,120
I had a friend that I helped.
I helped sell their house here.
489
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,120
They're friends now.
Anybody I work with ends up
490
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,880
being friends for the most part.
So they moved to Maine.
491
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:55,320
Like Maine, like Arizona to
Maine, like, you know, That's
492
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,040
cool.
That's cool.
493
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920
He posted a picture yesterday on
Facebook.
494
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Shout out to Chris Gibbs.
Hello.
495
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,080
I'll have to make Chris Gibbs
listen.
496
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,440
I'll tell him.
Yeah, I'll tell him that I name
497
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,880
drop him.
We'll get a new listener out of
498
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,520
it.
He posted a picture.
499
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,480
Like.
Holy shit.
500
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,960
Like it's just it's all white
and like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
501
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Hey, Mike.
I gave him a shout out.
502
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,720
No, your buddy Chris Gibbs.
Hey, Mike, you fucking can you
503
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,120
hear me?
Now you're being.
504
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,560
Funny.
Oh, I thought you'd say.
505
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,320
Hey, Chris, Me.
I got you.
506
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,520
I knew that.
Yeah, my bad.
507
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Chris Gibbs.
Hey, yo, thanks for listening.
508
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Yeah, if you do.
Appreciate.
509
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Chris Gibbs.
Chris Gibbs, right.
510
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,000
Yeah, there you go.
He's in Maine now, suffering the
511
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640
consequences of his move.
But I want that ass house.
512
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800
It's like an old Victorian
style.
513
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,560
They want to set up a whole.
Yeah, well, I got a hook up for
514
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,280
you.
They want to do like a whole bed
515
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,960
and breakfast.
Super nice family, man.
516
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,560
They had a realtor.
They were working with it
517
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,160
completely, completely hosed
them.
518
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200
And they found me because they
lived in my same neighborhood,
519
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,640
you know.
Thankfully, we were able to get
520
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,800
them done and sold within 60
days and off and running and you
521
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,280
know, chasing their dreams,
which is awesome.
522
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Yeah, super cool people, man.
Super cool people.
523
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,240
You keep going black, you know
that.
524
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Your your screen keeps blacking
out.
525
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,120
I don't know if you know that or
not.
526
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,040
You're not blacking out to me,
I'm.
527
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880
Taking a picture of it, I'm
going to text it to you right
528
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,160
now.
And I'm still here, but you're
529
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200
blacking.
Out to me working with, I'm
530
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,640
going to send you a picture of
it, right?
531
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Now it's all good.
It's all good.
532
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920
I know you're still there, but
now when you see the picture,
533
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360
they just text you.
I just text it to you.
534
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720
Take a look.
And I forgot to turn my phone
535
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,720
off, so I'm going to get busted.
Out again.
536
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:42,330
Out.
It's a trip, right?
537
00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:49,370
I didn't get the text either.
I just texted to you, you're
538
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:52,450
Mike Michaels, right?
Last time I checked, oh, there
539
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:54,530
it is.
It's got the last time I
540
00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:56,050
checked, you were Mike Michaels,
yeah.
541
00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:59,090
Last time I checked, I was too.
There's another weird thing.
542
00:30:00,010 --> 00:30:02,730
It's got to go 2000 miles, but
come on man.
543
00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:05,880
Well, that is weird.
It's.
544
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Really weird.
It'll be all right.
545
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,520
There.
Oh, OK.
546
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,760
There we did.
Now they just went.
547
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760
They just they just left.
You read one at 4 O 7:00 PM, it
548
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
said.
And then they sent you another
549
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680
one.
So there you go.
550
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680
If anybody's wondering where
Mike is, he's still there.
551
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,320
You just can't see him.
I don't know why I'm still here.
552
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520
I can see me.
So do you think so?
553
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,880
So here, here.
All right, cool.
554
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,120
So here's a question for you.
So when when Jesus and Moses and
555
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920
the dudes were walking across
the desert, you know, and and
556
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,360
the hot barren wasteland of I'm
terrible geography.
557
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,520
So I don't know where they
walked.
558
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,280
Desert they were they were in.
Egypt modern day Israel to
559
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Egypt.
Right.
560
00:30:54,120 --> 00:31:00,280
So, so, right, so half a day
walking in the desert with no
561
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,800
end insight, right?
You know.
562
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Well, they walked for like 30.
You know, they had to be.
563
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640
They're just pissed off.
Right, 40 days and 40 nights.
564
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:14,120
You know, right, right and and
right and just like you know
565
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
that Jesus was like looking up
and being like, what the fuck,
566
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Dad?
Like what are you fucking making
567
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,720
me do?
It's the desert.
568
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560
There's nothing to drink.
There's nothing to eat.
569
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,000
It's fucking hot.
I have these ready ass sandals
570
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
on my feet.
I'm wearing what is the
571
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,280
equivalent of of a dress made
out of hemp because that's what
572
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,840
they probably made clothes out
of back then.
573
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
And I'm.
I'm digging shit out of my nose
574
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,880
because it's nothing but dry
wind blasting my face.
575
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960
You know, they were walking
through the desert just fucking
576
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,040
cussing him out, you know?
That's where God damn came out
577
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880
came from.
If you think about it, like who
578
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,440
thought of saying God damn it,
Jesus did because he's walking
579
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
in the desert.
He's like, God damn it, what the
580
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320
fuck are you doing to us?
Why do we got to keep walking
581
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,440
for another 30 days with no
food, no water?
582
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,840
What is this all about, man, You
know?
583
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,920
So I've always kind of thought
that that that swearing,
584
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:20,280
swearing came from Jesus.
The preamp is the one on the
585
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,160
left, far left.
How's that?
586
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Is that better?
Yes.
587
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Well then you'll sound, then
you'll, yeah.
588
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Then your voice will come
through.
589
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,160
But you were fine where you were
at.
590
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,320
That's just.
My bad.
591
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160
No, you're fine.
It sounds way better with it
592
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560
closer to you.
It'll It'll what?
593
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,440
It sounds way better with it
closer to you.
594
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Oh, right here.
Like this?
595
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Yeah, you just had your preamp
too hot to have the mic that
596
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,360
close.
Like mine's about at 11:00 if
597
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,600
that gives you A-frame of
reference.
598
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Oh, yeah.
Mine's about about between 11:00
599
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,200
and 12:00 now.
It was about between 2:00 and
600
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920
3:00.
You know, I don't, I don't.
601
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,280
I don't ever play with that
shit.
602
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,040
It was just, you know, item
checks.
603
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200
It's like we're just singing.
They would adjust everything for
604
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,480
me.
I don't know.
605
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Prima Donna.
Prima Donna OK.
606
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,440
We took care of it.
Prima donnas.
607
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,240
He was out doing PR for the band
and bullshitting with the
608
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,320
audience.
I know, I'm just saying.
609
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
I'm just being silly.
You did your part.
610
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Right giving away.
The front man.
611
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,760
You know, I did.
I did.
612
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160
I thank you.
So you did too, Mike?
613
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,880
I tried, you know.
So here's my favorite thing
614
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,120
about.
We have a We should have a
615
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,400
picture of Jesus.
Here's my Here's my favorite
616
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,000
thing that makes me laugh.
The hardest, OK, is that white
617
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400
people think that Jesus was
white.
618
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
They don't even realize where he
lived.
619
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
You know, nobody in the Middle
East was white the last time I
620
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,560
checked.
Ever.
621
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Not one person well, but every
picture I ever saw, Jesus, he
622
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,880
was white guy.
No.
623
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Agreed.
What's kind of like Santa Claus?
624
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720
The hypocrisy is just it knows
no bounds and I couldn't take it
625
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,840
anymore.
And then you know, right?
626
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,000
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
627
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,159
And I think maybe that's that's
the Jesus that was was inside
628
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,440
for 40 days after the 40 day
walk and trekked the desert
629
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,639
because he was fucking tired of
being out there.
630
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,400
So he just got pale white skin
from like living in a cave.
631
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
And when he emerged, I think
that that was when the first
632
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Polaroid was snapped of him,
this pale, white shaken man with
633
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880
the the long beard and hair,
because he'd been in a cave for
634
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,800
so long, recovering from the
just insane abuse his body took
635
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,199
walking the desert and the sun
beating down.
636
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,800
They didn't have umbrellas back
then.
637
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,199
They didn't have sunscreen.
Said by a person who writes
638
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,040
fiction, ladies.
And gentlemen in their shoes
639
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,880
they had flat sandals made out
of.
640
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Take it with a grain of salt
said by a man who writes
641
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880
fiction, ladies and gentlemen.
Take it with a grain of salt.
642
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,360
Take it with a grain of salt.
I like it.
643
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,880
Yes, I was into the story.
I just want to put the.
644
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,480
With a grain of salt.
With AI.
645
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680
Want to put the PSA out there?
Guy who writes fiction.
646
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
I always thought that be a yeah,
I always thought that'd be a
647
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,200
funny bit for comedian, a funny
bit for a comedian would be
648
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
talking about Jesus's walk
through the desert, you know,
649
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720
and that's how swear words were
originated.
650
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,960
I'd be pissed.
Because.
651
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,320
I'd be pissed off my daddy let
me get nailed to a cross.
652
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
We'll talk about faith in an
entity.
653
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Oh yeah, like, really like what?
I mean idea that was so bad,
654
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,320
man.
I love my dad a lot.
655
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Desert like he never let me get
nailed to a cross, right?
656
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,240
Yeah.
Ever.
657
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,280
You know, Not once.
Never let me get hurt.
658
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,720
Granted.
No.
659
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:55,560
Saved my life, in fact.
Granted.
660
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,520
And you know, that was that was,
you know, well, that's, you
661
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
know, that's a good dad.
My dad's a piece of shit that
662
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,440
you know.
My dad was awesome about My dad
663
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
is awesome, you know not was it?
Is what it is.
664
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,400
That was the.
Hand.
665
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
He still is.
I still remember Saturday for
666
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,040
coffee.
Every All right on so I have a
667
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,240
cool I have a really really
salted the earth person that
668
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,600
that that I kind of if I could
adopt A father you know reverse
669
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,320
it like you can adopting me but
I'm going to adopt you.
670
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:34,480
I would have Rick Rodart by
thought by all means just guy
671
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,920
was with such a stand up human
he still is he's such a stand up
672
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
human being.
He's just, you know, they just
673
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,720
had their anniversary, him and
his wife and I don't know how
674
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,440
long, but it's got to be like 50
years somewhere approaching
675
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
that.
Just it's still like they were
676
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,600
the people we moved to champion
across the street in 76.
677
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,600
And I still talk to the family
to this day like on a regular
678
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,760
basis.
You've seen him on my
679
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,160
appreciation page.
Rick Rodarto.
680
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,640
Absolutely.
On stuff.
681
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Yeah.
Yeah.
682
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,760
Super nice guy.
I should drop this on the
683
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
appreciation group.
Hey, check this out.
684
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Although it kind of, it's a
different, a different version
685
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,320
of Chris that not everybody
might be ready for in that
686
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
group.
I just think that you should
687
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,880
start a podcast.
I need the link to the show so I
688
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,920
can start.
The the podcast just needs its
689
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,720
own Facebook page.
Oh yeah, I need the new page.
690
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,960
Yeah, yeah.
Then you can go crazy with that
691
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
and you can invite who you want.
To invite and I'm.
692
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,760
I've given up.
Yeah, I've given up on my guy
693
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,640
that was doing the thing.
I'm going to go to Fiver.
694
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960
Fiver is pretty legit.
They've done some cool stuff for
695
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,120
me over there.
So I'm going to have Fiver
696
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,120
create us a logo, OK?
It'll cost like 10 bucks for me
697
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,200
to do that because, you know,
they're overseas and they want
698
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,960
to make money.
So you say I want to make a logo
699
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
for a podcast.
OK What kind of logo do you
700
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,760
want?
Well, I want a microphone and
701
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,840
two caricatures of people called
the Chris and Mike Show.
702
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Oh, I can do that and have it to
you by next Tuesday.
703
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,880
Oh, thank you.
And then next Tuesday, I get the
704
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,400
thing.
And.
705
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400
OK, here's your $10.
Oh, thank you very much.
706
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:20,280
Everybody's happy.
I'm glad to play you Tuesday for
707
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,040
the hamburger today.
That was it.
708
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,320
That's wrong.
Wrong accent for that.
709
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
That was wimpy.
That was.
710
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,760
Yeah.
Yeah, that was that one.
711
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,920
Yeah, he did.
But that's OK though.
712
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,400
That's that's the beauty of
live.
713
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,720
Not so live podcasting with with
the taller.
714
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,880
He was a wuss.
Right.
715
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Like remember the movie Popeye?
The Robin Williams Popeye movie.
716
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400
I do.
I went to the movie.
717
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,720
Theater.
Do you remember that Robin
718
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,880
Williams Pop.
Oh, dude, what a what a fuck.
719
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,560
What a fucking great movie that
was.
720
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
That sucks that he killed
himself, but I get why he killed
721
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,400
himself.
Because, you know, you don't
722
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,240
like when it's time for me, When
it's time for me to wear
723
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,960
diapers, Dude, I'm Peter Pan and
like, everybody knows, like,
724
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Nope.
If the doctor says, yeah, you
725
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,000
got to wear diapers.
Fuck you dude.
726
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Where's the roof access?
Because yeah, I don't want to
727
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,960
wear like that either.
You come in wearing diapers.
728
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,040
I ain't even wearing diapers.
It's not happening.
729
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160
No interest.
And you know right.
730
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,400
And I'm not Catholic, so it
doesn't matter if I Peter Pan
731
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400
off a building.
You, on the other hand, you
732
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Catholics, you can't do that
shit.
733
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,680
That's blasphemy.
I'm a lazy Catholic, I'm a
734
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Methodist.
So it's fucking game on.
735
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,240
Listen, I was only baptized
Catholic and then we ended up
736
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,960
going to the Presbyterian Church
because that was my dad's
737
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,200
church.
So I only ever got baptized
738
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Catholic.
And but when I first met you, I
739
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,720
was still pretty indoctrinated
into that side of life.
740
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,440
But like I said, I started doing
my own research and asking my
741
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,760
own questions, and I started
learning things that just didn't
742
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,440
add up for me.
So I developed my own religion.
743
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,320
And if anybody wants to join,
I'm not a very I'm not a very
744
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,880
demanding cult leader, but my
religion is.
745
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200
I try and be a better person
tomorrow than I was today,
746
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400
right?
I try to not hurt anybody
747
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080
intentionally.
If I don't like you, I just
748
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,520
don't talk to you.
Right.
749
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,280
So I thought about creating
denimism.
750
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,840
Right.
You know.
751
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,480
I'm just too lazy to be a cult
leader, man.
752
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,360
I just don't have it in my
schedule.
753
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,560
You know, There's a lot of
sports to watch, a lot of
754
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
relaxing to do.
I'm not looking to be a go
755
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,800
getter, you know, 24/7.
I need a little downtime.
756
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
I enjoy the hell out of doing
this podcast and writing some
757
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,680
music, and beyond that, I just
don't have a lot of extra
758
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,280
motivation.
But I know how people get sucked
759
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,120
in.
Once you once you hit the 50
760
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,520
man, you know.
Oh right.
761
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,880
Well, see, I think that that
some people need to be told how
762
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,120
to live.
They need to be told they have
763
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,400
to pray every day, they have to
tithe, they have to show up, you
764
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680
know, at the church.
They have to pay their dues.
765
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,520
Some people need that and
listen.
766
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
If that works for you, that's
great.
767
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Other people have nothing
against it.
768
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,720
Don't.
But well, absolutely not at all.
769
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800
More power to you if you need
that kind of structure and
770
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,080
guide, because I had it like for
years and years and years and
771
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,920
years, years but.
Didn't take.
772
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,880
You know, once I went to
one-on-one conversation with the
773
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,040
minister of the Church of no.
Well, I took to the point I
774
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
forget when how old I was, but I
want to say 20 ish.
775
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Maybe between 2122 I went and
and was having a struggle and I
776
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,640
went and talked to the pastor,
Tom Wilson.
777
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,920
The only reason I remember his
name is because Tom Wilson was
778
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,320
the artist for Ziggy and he had
always used Ziggy cartoons in
779
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,840
his sermons, which I always
thought was kind of weird,
780
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,000
right?
But he lectured me in our
781
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,360
one-on-one and plural pluralized
it.
782
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,480
He was reciting A sermon.
So I stopped him like I do.
783
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,760
And I'm like, dude, you just
called me friends, plural.
784
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,680
I'm one person.
You're you're reciting A sermon
785
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,280
to me.
I'm done.
786
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,920
I got up and left.
I haven't gone back to church
787
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,600
since.
Unless it was with Nikki and the
788
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,280
kids going to the Catholic side
of life because they're all
789
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:24,560
Catholic and I'm not.
But so disingenuous in a
790
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,600
one-on-one conversation with
somebody who was actively
791
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,240
involved in the church, that
church I taught what was a
792
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:33,520
Sunday school?
The five year olds.
793
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,080
That was fun.
And yeah, treating me like I was
794
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,040
a sermon, I'm like, you fucking
asshole.
795
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,360
So I think I left and that's
when I started saying fucking
796
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,520
drinking beers and you know,
going down the normal path of a
797
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,160
21 year old.
You know, yeah, well, we had a
798
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,800
lot of fun.
Kind of like when Bono's Halo
799
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720
exploded under Octoon, baby and
he discovered Vegas.
800
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:08,680
I'll tell you when, when I 100%
just realized that for me it was
801
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,160
all just nonsense, was the first
time that I ever did mushrooms
802
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,840
because I just had a sense of
overwhelming.
803
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
I've taken myself far too
seriously.
804
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:31,240
You know, I encountered beings
that just kept laughing and
805
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:36,000
joking and saying, you know,
they were they were speaking in
806
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,960
a language that I didn't really
understand at the time, but it
807
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,400
was a feeling that I could sense
they were just saying you're
808
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,680
you're taking your life too
seriously.
809
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,800
You're too hard on yourself,
You're carrying around a
810
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160
tremendous amount of guilt
that's going to kill you.
811
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,680
And for me, it was just thinking
that everything that I did was a
812
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,440
sin, right?
You know, everything the church
813
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,360
says was a sin.
I was pretty much doing while we
814
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
were in the band on a daily
basis.
815
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,720
So it was a lot of guilt to be
carrying around.
816
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,640
I just had to let it go because
for me, I wasn't hurting anybody
817
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,800
except.
Myself, right?
818
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,640
Right.
But in the world of Christian
819
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,560
theology, as long as you pray
and ask for forgiveness every
820
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,360
night, you don't get in trouble.
Yeah, well, that's a lot of
821
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
responsibility too.
I'd.
822
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,920
You know, just.
Just more nonsense.
823
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,760
You know, If I do something
wrong, I do something wrong.
824
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Did the devil make me do it?
Well, I don't know.
825
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,320
I didn't seem so.
If I do something right, did God
826
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,160
make me do it?
I don't know.
827
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,680
I didn't seem so.
There's been a lot of you got to
828
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,640
have faith for the whole 50
years I've been on this planet,
829
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,920
and the only person that really
has ever, 100% not let me down
830
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,720
in the end is me, because nobody
can live your life for you.
831
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,120
There's plenty of people who
helped me get to where I'm at,
832
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:19,120
and I'm fortunate and I love
them, but holy shit, man, at the
833
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
end of the day, the only person
that makes you a good person is
834
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,360
you.
Yeah, Bottom line.
835
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Yeah, I agree.
I just try and be a better
836
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,280
person every day.
I try not to hurt anybody.
837
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,200
I even if somebody's does wrong
by me, I try and take a deep
838
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,000
breath and say I feel sorry for
that person.
839
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,080
I hope they have a better life
from this point forward because
840
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
I enjoy living now.
Man, life is fun.
841
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:50,230
I thought that was you texting
me, but.
842
00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:52,150
I agree.
I'm texting my daughter right
843
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:53,430
now.
That's why I seem distracted.
844
00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:55,640
I apologize.
No, it's all good.
845
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,520
My daughter, my daughter reached
out and asked me a question.
846
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,400
It's all good, man.
My phone just went off and I saw
847
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
you were texting so I thought I
was doing something wrong even.
848
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Though they even though they
drive you nuts, not nothing's
849
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,600
wrong.
Everything's cool.
850
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,560
No family first.
Off.
851
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Everything's cool, man, you
know?
852
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaking of people who helped me
when I moved back home after
853
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,080
getting sober, they were the
first people to believe in me.
854
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,640
So there you have it.
You know, Mom and Dad let me
855
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880
crash at their house until I got
back on my feet.
856
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,720
That's a lot to ask of somebody,
so.
857
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:29,960
That was nice of them.
You know why?
858
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Because they gave you something
to believe in.
859
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,640
Absolutely.
That might be a.
860
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Hit Well, the nice thing is you
have that as an option and what
861
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,880
was that something to believe
in?
862
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,760
I was just being funny.
That was a joke.
863
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,360
I know, I know.
I was.
864
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,000
I was about to pull the lyrics
out.
865
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,080
But that.
But whenever I think of
866
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
something to believe in I it
goes to every rose has a stone.
867
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,600
I don't know why, yeah.
They were two.
868
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Different talk because because
because the Mario's Your Throne
869
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,800
is that we both like Silent is
still in the dead of the night.
870
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640
But that's not the start of
something to believe in.
871
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,160
I forget what the start of
something to believe in is.
872
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,840
And that's a great song.
Like like the original version
873
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,760
of that song.
Because there was something over
874
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640
the years I heard the demo of
that.
875
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Oh, what a not the demo.
The original version of the
876
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:22,640
thing was a fucking joke, man.
I don't know who Brett the the
877
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,160
new the the released one
absolutely.
878
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,800
But the demo version was just
like what the fuck are you
879
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,880
singing about Brett?
And so I don't know who came in
880
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,280
there and produced that and made
him forced him to change lyrics
881
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,080
and structure the song.
But you know that dude should
882
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
get a paddle back because where
it started from and to the end
883
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,520
product night and day, man.
If you ever have a chance to
884
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,680
listen to that it's not the
original demo version of
885
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,680
something to believe in.
It's it will it.
886
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,000
It will fucking knock you on
your ass How bad it was legit.
887
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,240
And I I love, I love a lot of
poisons music.
888
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,160
I do.
Choose you stuff, but the stuff
889
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
that has substance to it and
that was one of them.
890
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:16,880
That one of them that I thought
were fantastic but you know it's
891
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,000
it's the cool thing like every
now and then I'll hear something
892
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000
on Sirius got less than the
SiriusXM a lot and they'll do
893
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,280
they'll play demos of stuff and
like they played a point a Pink
894
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Floyd demo for Kung Fu and I'm
fucking no sorry doesn't work.
895
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,600
The context is there the the you
know the the structure of the
896
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,160
song was kind of there
informing.
897
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
But what they what they ended up
producing was so much better
898
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,000
than a demo like just.
Well, that's the way it's a
899
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,600
demo, right?
Because you got to, right?
900
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
You're like, we had everything
that we used to do.
901
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Your grandma was an outline,
right?
902
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Yeah.
It's just like an outline that
903
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,680
you used to write in school.
Right.
904
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Exactly.
Yep.
905
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,760
Yep.
Nice analogy, Guitar player.
906
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Good job.
Yeah.
907
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Hey, thank you.
Good job.
908
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,600
You should call yourself the
guitar player, because I'm the
909
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,400
taller guy today.
Probably taught to me about the
910
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,200
drummer, I'm sure.
You know how to change your name
911
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520
on this, right?
So you don't have to be Mike
912
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,400
every time.
I'm sure I changed it to Mike at
913
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,200
one time.
But you know, you know me, man.
914
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,960
I do shit.
And then I forget how I did it.
915
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,880
No.
How do you change your name?
916
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,960
I'll look for it.
I'll find it.
917
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,400
It's when you when you first log
in, it asks me who I am.
918
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,160
Yeah, that's who I am.
So that would be a thing for
919
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,760
next podcast to surprise me with
a new name, not just Mike,
920
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,800
because the mic could be the
microphone.
921
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,360
You know even though it's Mike
not MIC, it's weird.
922
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,520
You keep blacking out, man.
It's, it's.
923
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Are you tripping right now on
the?
924
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Podcast I am not you.
Just keep.
925
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,240
Going in and out of darkness.
100% No.
926
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,280
I didn't think you were.
I have not taken mushrooms in,
927
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,640
well, at least 15 years,
probably 17 years.
928
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,240
Wow.
No, it's been a long time.
929
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,480
No, there's nothing wrong that's
not that's not even anything to
930
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,560
be proud of.
I'd do them again in a heartbeat
931
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,600
if somebody hand them to me.
Well, I know, but I'm just, I'm
932
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,920
just, I'm just saying for that,
you know, it's still you've
933
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,280
abstained from psychedelic
tripping.
934
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,880
No, you know.
Only because I have the
935
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,600
opportunity, let's not.
Go What are your plans for the
936
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,600
rest of the week there, my
friend?
937
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,720
Let let's be clear, we're going
for.
938
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,560
The rest of the week.
Hold on.
939
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Let's be clear on a couple
things.
940
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,680
We're going to talk about how we
are recovering addicts in the
941
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,480
one breath, and I'm going to
tell you how I enjoy smoking
942
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,240
marijuana and I would do
hallucinogens again in a
943
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,920
heartbeat.
There's a reason for that.
944
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Nobody's ever died doing the
marijuana and nobody's ever died
945
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,520
from doing mushrooms.
People have gone crazy doing
946
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,160
acid because they did too much
and they went on a bad trip.
947
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680
I'm not saying that any of this
is safe and that you should do
948
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,040
it.
I don't condone it.
949
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,240
Too much but.
For me, right, the hallucinogens
950
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,120
changed my life.
It's.
951
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Keeping it real, raw and
relevant.
952
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,000
It's the Christian like show we
forgot, right?
953
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,920
Say that again.
We we do.
954
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,520
You like how you got to we're
we're real raw and relevant on
955
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,640
the Chris and Mike Show and it
only took me 51 minutes and 50
956
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,480
seconds to announce to the
listeners what the show is
957
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,560
actually called.
Because we started the show off
958
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,280
today with me singing nothing
man lyrics that unless you know
959
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,800
who we are, you have no idea
what the fuck that was.
960
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,880
But you're thinking, hmm, that's
catchy.
961
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Where's the music segue, Chris?
Is very good at covering up.
962
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Timeless.
When I'm screwing up.
963
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,880
So that's what he was doing,
ladies and gentlemen, was
964
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,080
covering my ass because for some
reason the intro music wouldn't
965
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,360
play today.
That's my vent for the podcast.
966
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,040
I hit the play button.
That's all you can do.
967
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040
It is, But maybe in post
production we'll just call you
968
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Mike, because that's what your
name says right there, Mike.
969
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,160
I prefer to be call you, Mike.
Yeah, that's.
970
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,840
Great.
Maybe in POST?
971
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Production makes life easier for
me at the beginning.
972
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,280
Like I used to put in when I did
my episodes of Good News
973
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Arizona, I would film Little Man
doing something fun.
974
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,000
And he was on the He's on the
end of every single episode.
975
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,200
All 106 of them.
That's all.
976
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,360
Not all of them.
Maybe maybe 100 of them.
977
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,160
He's at the very end of every
episode doing something.
978
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,480
That's totally awesome.
Yeah, which is cool.
979
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,080
He doesn't realize it.
You know, once he gets older.
980
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,440
And I'll tell him, Hey, go watch
that and watch watch it till the
981
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,880
end and.
He'll and I don't, you know, I
982
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,360
don't know did we actually
record the fact that we
983
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
confirmed a guest that will be
upcoming at a later date here.
984
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,960
I don't think that got recorded,
so.
985
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,200
We talked about it, we talked
about it last week, but I don't
986
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,200
think we we touched on it more.
Than that so.
987
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,000
What you could do?
When's it coming on?
988
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,240
When's it coming on?
Whenever we want.
989
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,400
Do you have that?
OK, So what we need to do is we
990
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,400
need to do a little teaser.
So you need to get me a a a
991
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,680
picture or two of him so then I
can do a quick little YouTube
992
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,720
short and announce that he's
coming on the show.
993
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,120
We need to know when he's coming
on the show so then we can we
994
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,320
can prepare.
I had this thing I want to try.
995
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,560
It'll be difficult for all three
of us to participate unless
996
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:10,120
there's some planning.
But my idea is the I'm hesitant
997
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,920
to say it on air because I'm
afraid somebody's going to steal
998
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,480
it.
Because I used to do this thing
999
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,240
where it was, it was karaoke in
the car and then all of a sudden
1000
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080
there was karaoke in the car was
a bit.
1001
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,280
So I'm going to text it to you
because I'm, I'm afraid it's
1002
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,600
such a brilliant idea when you
see the text that why didn't I
1003
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,240
think of that like 20 years ago?
Why hasn't anybody thought of
1004
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,120
that?
Because I'm that's how stupid my
1005
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,480
brain works sometimes.
I'm super excited to get this
1006
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,080
text.
Ladies and gentlemen, one of the
1007
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,360
ideas behind this podcast was
when we were in the band.
1008
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:48,320
One of my favorite things to do.
I don't know.
1009
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,320
I can only speak for me because
I am me was to sit around and
1010
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
bullshit with the guys in the
band and we would have super
1011
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,280
deep conversations that would go
on for hours and hours and hours
1012
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,960
because we were young and we
didn't need sleep.
1013
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,960
So that was part of the idea,
was to introduce you guys to a
1014
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,800
way of thinking that you
probably haven't been exposed to
1015
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,080
on a level that we've had many,
many, many, many, many times for
1016
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,960
hours.
So that was part of the idea was
1017
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,080
to be Privy to conversations
and.
1018
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,880
And to me, yeah.
And that's that to me is the
1019
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,560
thing that nobody really ever,
ever, ever, ever touches on when
1020
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,240
it comes to to bands.
Right, Right.
1021
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,960
I got thumbs up.
He got the idea.
1022
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,920
You just got to wait.
Oh yeah.
1023
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,000
I'll, I'll wait for.
It the the right but see and and
1024
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,720
and you now knowing what that is
right.
1025
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,440
Aren't you shocked that nobody's
done that?
1026
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,160
I am.
Like, think about it.
1027
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Like, think about the media,
right.
1028
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,160
And some of the shows that are
on, you know, late nights, like
1029
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,440
there's I'm, I'm, I'm.
And just I'm shocked.
1030
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
I might have to hit, so we might
have to hit a different point
1031
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,040
before I do that one.
What three different, You know
1032
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,320
what I mean that but that's the
thing.
1033
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
But I think that would it won't
be the whole thing, right.
1034
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,560
But I think it'll be a segment.
We'll call that and then we'll,
1035
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,800
we'll do what the text
references during the Q&A.
1036
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440
So maybe make it like a 5 minute
thing, like maybe 10 questions
1037
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,880
that you know I'll ask one, you
ask one that type of thing like
1038
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,360
you'll have your five loaded
questions, I'll have my 5 loaded
1039
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,920
questions.
We won't tell him, so he has no
1040
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,360
idea what the fuck we're going
to ask.
1041
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,960
I I actually makes it even more
funny.
1042
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,480
I actually have responding.
A better guest to do that with.
1043
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,240
I think we should do with all
our guests.
1044
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:57,240
Kind of like when Holmberg and
KUPD years ago used to do this
1045
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,360
thing.
Anybody that called into his
1046
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,640
show, I don't know if you
remember this or not, but
1047
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,400
anybody called into his show
that he interviewed, he would do
1048
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,040
what was called a pause and
toss.
1049
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Remember that I?
Do I do.
1050
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,280
What's his first name?
Pete.
1051
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,280
Pete Holmberg.
So for those of John.
1052
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,400
John Holmberg.
Holberg's Morning Sickness.
1053
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,640
That was it.
Holberg's.
1054
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Morning.
But so yeah, so.
1055
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,480
So for those of you that don't,
that don't know.
1056
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Yeah.
So those he's still on the air.
1057
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,120
But those of you that don't
know, his paws and toss would be
1058
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,080
he'd call, like, say, say The
Rock would call in and he'd be
1059
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
interviewing The Rock about an
upcoming show, an upcoming
1060
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,440
movie, whatever, whatever the
hell, right.
1061
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,800
So then the last question he'd
asked everybody the same was,
1062
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,880
was what movie when you're a kid
that you would watch on VCR?
1063
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,120
Because back then VCRS were
ruled the world.
1064
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,320
There was no DVR in anything.
You had to actually get up, put
1065
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,920
a tape into a machine, press
play, and then go sit down with
1066
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760
your remote control.
So here's one question to
1067
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,000
everybody, Regardless of who
they were, whether they're a
1068
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,360
rock musician, superstar or a
baseball player or politician,
1069
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,840
it didn't matter.
Anybody from A-Z every single
1070
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,240
level in life, it didn't matter.
You got this question, What was
1071
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320
your pause and toss go to when
you were a kid?
1072
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,840
And what that meant was watching
a movie like like an 80s movie.
1073
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Breakfast Club wouldn't have it.
Fast time Jurism on high.
1074
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Jennifer Jason Li, right.
Well, I'll think about it
1075
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,920
though.
Fast time, Jurism on high when
1076
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Jennifer Jason Lee was, was, was
in the pool room with Damone.
1077
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,160
Right.
And then when that scene was
1078
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,400
over, she was laying there butt
ass naked, you know, which was
1079
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,000
shocking, you know, to anybody
back then because holy shit, you
1080
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,200
saw everything.
Rocking.
1081
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,320
The pubic area, that's a pause
and toss moment.
1082
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
So the Rock would say, Oh well,
I every time fast times would
1083
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,760
come on When I was 13 years old.
I'd pause that scene after
1084
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,440
Damone and and whatever Jennifer
Jason Lee's character's name was
1085
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,240
after getting Stacy.
When Damone and Stacy had sex in
1086
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,160
the pool room, was Damone left?
Stacy would just sit there butt
1087
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,840
ass naked for all the world to
see.
1088
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,280
He.
Took off because he came and
1089
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,200
that's.
A pause and toss.
1090
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,520
She'd pause the movie to freeze
that picture of her butt ass
1091
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,280
naked, take care of business,
and then press play.
1092
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,800
Pause and pause.
So I'm thinking we should do the
1093
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,280
text thing.
The text thing that I sent you
1094
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,640
that idea with everybody and we
limit it to like 10 total
1095
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,760
questions.
I have 5.
1096
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,400
You have 5:00 and it's it's
somewhere in the interview that
1097
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,840
it's because you want to have,
you want to have.
1098
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080
We want to have some type of
structured thing concept like
1099
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,360
with good news Arizona, we had
the rapid fire news.
1100
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,760
We had just the good news.
Then we had live on location.
1101
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,160
But everybody looked forward to
one of those elements of the
1102
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,480
show because it was consistent.
So if we consistently have that
1103
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:50,760
thing and we call it that like I
text you, then we have we have 5
1104
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160
questions that I have 5, you
have 5.
1105
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,600
And we don't know what our
questions are.
1106
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
That's the beauty of it.
That's what makes it funny
1107
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,720
because you may know a guess and
I may not know that guess like
1108
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,120
this guy.
And then I'll, I'll have
1109
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,280
somebody come on and you may not
know him, but I will.
1110
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,360
So the benefit of having just
five random questions from each
1111
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,600
of us that have no bearing on
what what we're talking about is
1112
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,520
that makes it even funnier.
And then you add that element to
1113
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,480
it, it's going to, you know,
those are those little hooks,
1114
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,120
like in our songs, our hooks,
right.
1115
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,240
You got to have a hook to make
the song stick.
1116
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,480
Correct.
So I'm done selling the ID to
1117
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720
you because I know you like it.
So that's the concept behind it.
1118
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,920
It's not.
It's not.
1119
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,360
It's nothing more so than having
something to look forward to
1120
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,640
every episode.
When we have guests, that is.
1121
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,080
While we're on that subject,
before I forget, I made myself a
1122
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,080
note.
We actually had somebody from
1123
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,120
Austria watch the podcast and
now they've watched it twice.
1124
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,160
Austria.
So if you are that person right
1125
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,560
on, leave us a comment with a
way to get a hold of you,
1126
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,280
because we would like to know
how you found us, because now we
1127
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,560
know you've watched it twice.
I can see it on my right.
1128
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Austria, that's right.
Yeah.
1129
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Austria the country, right?
On.
1130
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,720
They're 2% of our viewership.
Austria, Austria.
1131
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,160
That'd be cool to have have.
I would totally like to have
1132
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,720
that person on the.
I would totally like to have
1133
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,280
them on the podcast.
That's what I'm saying.
1134
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,320
Find a way to get a hold of us.
There's AQ and a part at the
1135
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,480
bottom of the podcast page, so
when they go to listen, they can
1136
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,080
leave me a comment.
And if you want to give me an
1137
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,080
e-mail address or a Facebook
page or a way to get a hold of
1138
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,520
you, we'd love to know how you
found us.
1139
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,800
That's awesome.
So thank you for listening.
1140
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,280
And drop us a comment.
Yeah.
1141
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,880
That's way awesome.
Yeah, there you go.
1142
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,280
So I'm going to Vegas Thursday,
so let's just wrap this puppy
1143
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,840
up.
Man birthday's tomorrow.
1144
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,120
She's on her way home, so we're.
Going to Happy birthday, Nikki.
1145
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,680
I know, I know.
Yeah, I'm not.
1146
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,320
I don't like Vegas, man.
I don't.
1147
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,800
I don't like Vegas, to be honest
with you.
1148
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,680
I don't drink in this.
I'm a gambler.
1149
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,480
I don't.
I'd see.
1150
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,600
I don't like the gamble either.
So it's just it's it was hey
1151
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,760
let's go to Vegas for your
birthday.
1152
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,800
So we're going to do stuff other
than, you know, but I'm just
1153
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,000
not.
I'm not a big.
1154
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,440
You need to hit the craps table
with me.
1155
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Really.
Trust me.
1156
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Oh, yeah.
We'd have a blast.
1157
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,560
OK.
Yes.
1158
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Oh, yeah.
I'd teach you all the ends.
1159
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,120
And I was a playing crap.
We'll plan that out.
1160
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,320
You'll have a blast.
Trust we'll.
1161
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,280
Plan that out next year.
We'll do that, absolutely.
1162
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,960
I got five weeks of vacation.
We'll plan that out.
1163
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,360
All right.
So again, this is Chris.
1164
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,200
Oh, see, there you go.
OK Oh, dude.
1165
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Right on.
OK, so there you go.
1166
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,160
So this has been the Chris and
Mike show.
1167
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,400
He's he's Mike as it says right
there on his side name.
1168
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,120
And then I'm I'm, I'm a taller
guy.
1169
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,880
He's the taller guy.
So you know, there you go.
1170
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,920
Thank you everyone for tuning
in.
1171
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,720
Make sure that you hit that
follow button.
1172
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,120
Hit the follow button on the
Spotify share with your friends.
1173
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Feel free to post it all over
social media.
1174
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,200
It doesn't do us any good if
nobody's listening.
1175
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280
So this isn't a secret.
Share it with everybody.
1176
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,480
No, right.
And remember, the the opinions
1177
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,920
shared in this broadcast are
purely our own.
1178
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,000
We have no intention of stepping
on anybody's toes or, you know,
1179
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,880
pissing people off.
You know, we have lawyers and
1180
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,920
attorneys, you know, all over
the world stationed ready to to
1181
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,240
pounce on me if you try to
pounce on us.
1182
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,800
So behave yourselves.
Not really.
1183
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,800
We love you, but really?
Right, right.
1184
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,200
It doesn't matter who you think
Jesus is, you know is because.
1185
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,960
We love you if you're listening
to this podcast.
1186
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,360
We just, it's just, you know.
It's all about love, man.
1187
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
exactly.
1188
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Nothing but love.
The world needs more love.
1189
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,080
Right, not.
Hair Love.
1190
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,560
Not like John Lennon and Yoko in
the bad Hair.
1191
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,880
Love.
Just love, man.
1192
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,960
Just just, you know, believe in
yourself, you know?
1193
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,000
Be kind.
Just open the door for.
1194
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,880
Open a door for somebody, you
know.
1195
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Buy somebody's coffee when
they're behind you in line.
1196
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,320
You know, shit like that.
Absolutely.
1197
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Do random things.
Random things.
1198
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,720
Like you know, it's this, it's
the silly season.
1199
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,200
Go grab a a thing off the Angel
tree and buy a present for
1200
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,960
somebody.
And teenagers, mind you, are the
1201
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,280
ones that get shafted.
Everybody wants to buy presents
1202
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,280
for the 012345 year olds on the
Angel tree.
1203
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Teenagers get fucked, man.
Teenage.
1204
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,640
Our fostered kids too.
And so be mindful of that.
1205
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,160
If you're gonna buy a 2 year old
gift, well fucking grab a $25
1206
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,880
Amazon gift card for a 13 year
old.
1207
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,120
You're gonna make their day.
I mean, their day is gonna suck
1208
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,520
Anyway.
When a couple years ago I did, I
1209
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:55,480
played Santa at a meal service
and it was cool, but it sucked
1210
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,640
because we had James and I, this
other volunteer coordinator.
1211
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,960
We we we gathered presents and
stuff and and so we had it all
1212
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,920
set out.
I had this bad ass Santa suit.
1213
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,400
I'm not the real Santa,
obviously, for those of you
1214
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
listening that believe, I'm not
going to discredit that.
1215
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,560
He worked for Santa Claus.
I I worked for Santa Claus that
1216
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,200
day and I have an epic Santa
suit.
1217
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,840
So I was giving out gifts and
legit these homeless kids would
1218
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,760
come up with nothing.
They have nothing.
1219
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,160
And and for me to hand them a
gift, just that was it, man.
1220
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,120
Like their their month was made
because they they weren't going
1221
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,600
to get shit.
And you know that because when
1222
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,280
you're homeless, your parents
aren't going to fucking be able
1223
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,880
to, you know, help you in any
way.
1224
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,040
And Santa can't find you.
If you're homeless, you got to
1225
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,960
have an address.
See what I did there?
1226
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:52,720
So it was really cool to be able
to do that and and be anonymous
1227
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,680
because my Santa mask is legit.
You can't tell there's a human
1228
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,040
behind it.
Zagoni Studios in in Illinois,
1229
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Chicago, IL.
This guy's Zagoni makes the
1230
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,440
greatest mask.
You've seen him.
1231
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,760
My my masks that I wear.
Oh yeah.
1232
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,040
Fucking lights out, man.
The guy's fantastic.
1233
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,440
He's a Craftsman, he says.
Chicago's Zagoni.
1234
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,320
Zagoni is ZAGONE.
Look them up, Google.
1235
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,520
We rock here in Illinois, man.
Really nice guy to eat because I
1236
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,400
had them do a live on location.
Yeah.
1237
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,920
Oh yeah.
Quality musician oh.
1238
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,680
Yeah, I mean everything.
You know, Illinois itself is
1239
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,400
kind of fucked up on on on a
whole, but yeah.
1240
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,800
Yeah, well, politicians are
fucked up the.
1241
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,480
People, right.
Any state, yeah, any state that,
1242
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,960
that that has Robin Zander out
of it.
1243
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,840
You know you can't go wrong, you
know.
1244
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,040
Or your Speedway.
I sold.
1245
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
I sold the high.
I sold the penthouse condo to
1246
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,480
right.
I sold a penthouse condo.
1247
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,480
A guy named Paul, I'm not going
to drop his last name 'cause I
1248
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,520
don't you know he actually grew
up with Cheap Trick.
1249
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Like he was that all the yeah,
he was at their college parties
1250
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,160
and shit like one of them.
I think Rick Nielsen, he said
1251
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,960
lived above him and their
duplex.
1252
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:03,840
They lived in the fourplex.
So he heard everything like like
1253
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,840
legitimately and and when they
did the Japan thing the the live
1254
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,400
in Budokan before that they were
nothing and then all of a sudden
1255
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,920
that hit and boom and so it was
cool talking to him because he
1256
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,080
legit had had first hand.
Yeah they had but he had first
1257
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,280
hand account stories of them up
to that point in their life that
1258
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,160
you don't get unless you know
them.
1259
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,560
You know, it's like our
development deal and shit.
1260
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,640
If we would have pursued that
and you know what I mean?
1261
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,320
And then all of a sudden, you
know, the Mason jar would, you
1262
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,560
know, have history of us being
there before we were anything.
1263
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,840
And then you know, we would have
exploded onto the scene because
1264
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,960
we just would have, because we
don't fuck around.
1265
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,560
This is kind of cool that Paul
has all that intimate knowledge
1266
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,680
and details and and and
friendships and shit with with
1267
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,680
with the band, with with Cheap
Trick, because I mean what a
1268
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,240
fucking band they are.
And we got to stop because we'll
1269
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,760
go on for another hour.
Fantastic.
1270
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,960
That's like my dad, so he.
Used to see so with that he.
1271
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,240
Used to see REO Speedwagon.
You know, great.
1272
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,840
Talk with you.
Yeah.
1273
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:21,040
Sock OPS.
Great. 1950 sock OPS.
1274
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,080
All right, let's.
I like the.
1275
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,120
Thumbs up.
All right, everybody be kind to
1276
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,479
each other as.
Always.
1277
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,200
And then Mike Michaels.
Chris Dunham Until next week,
1278
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,439
Peace, my brother.
Until next week, use.
1279
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:55,680
Well, my friend
the.
1280
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:25,720
None.
00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,480
Oh yeah, screwed up already.
I just grew up.
2
00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,920
Can you hear that?
Whoa, can you hear that?
3
00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,200
My little Dings on my messenger
Dings.
4
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,920
I didn't that time.
Do you hear a little doorbell
5
00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,040
chime every now and then?
OK, intro music.
6
00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:34,640
Yeah, screwed up already.
We are Where's my Music Shambles
7
00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,040
already, ladies and gentlemen.
So say again.
8
00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,560
I said everything's in shambles
already.
9
00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,520
Ladies and gentlemen.
Music won't play right?
10
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,720
Right.
These are the golden moments
11
00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:57,600
that he wanted me to capture.
Absolutely, man, you can't do
12
00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,320
the podcast.
He'll drive people crazy.
13
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,640
Why could you ever the fuck I
want you to know why?
14
00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,600
Because I'm Mother Fucking
Crystal real estate guy.
15
00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,280
Bitch ass motherfuckers.
I'm the Tower guy.
16
00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,720
The other guy, the Iron Dog.
You got all that right for
17
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,080
recording.
You got all that?
18
00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,400
Every fucking bit of it, man.
And.
19
00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,560
The music still won't play.
I know music.
20
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160
I could just.
I could just, hey, you know,
21
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,200
what can I say?
I had a bad day sipping on a
22
00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,040
bottle.
Just wasting time away.
23
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440
And I don't know what I've been
told.
24
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,840
And I don't know just where I'll
go.
25
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,280
I live my life and take a day by
day set my time.
26
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,440
It'll never fade away.
Because I ain't perfect.
27
00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640
Not the chosen one.
I find my piece underneath us on
28
00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:51,080
you to take me now, baby.
How I am Leave the red
29
00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840
separation of sin.
Take me now, baby.
30
00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,200
Let me be.
I took my soul and eternity
31
00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,640
because now I lay 6 feet to
rest.
32
00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,920
I got no regrets.
I got nothing left.
33
00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,240
Just the time that was spent in
vain.
34
00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,280
Just the soul crying.
I didn't shame because I don't
35
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,160
believe in the afterlife.
I don't believe in Jesus Christ.
36
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,960
You always hated that line.
I don't believe in the words you
37
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,960
say.
I don't believe what the
38
00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,520
preachers say because I don't
believe in the common man.
39
00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,520
Did I hate that?
One, because I'm a nothing man.
40
00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,240
Let me get rid of that gum now.
Yeah, you always hated that
41
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,040
Jesus Christ line.
And there was one song, that one
42
00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,640
song I wrote that I said, I said
God damn.
43
00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,800
And you never liked that either.
I thought I was fairly religious
44
00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040
back then.
I'm not quite as opinionated
45
00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,240
anymore.
Well, no, it's it's.
46
00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,600
No, no, no, no, no, it's not
it's not a bad thing.
47
00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,640
It's, you know, that's what
makes you who you are, you know.
48
00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,880
Like.
Well, I'm not religious per SE,
49
00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,720
right?
I would say that's how much I've
50
00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,400
evolved as a person because that
wouldn't offend me anymore.
51
00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,120
Gotcha.
Yeah, gotcha.
52
00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:08,040
I'm only offended if it affects
me directly, right?
53
00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:18,480
Yeah, my, my whole, my whole
religious, we'll call it, or
54
00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,760
faith driven background was I
grew up going to Christian
55
00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,240
Church wanting to be a high
school minister for a large
56
00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,760
chunk of of time.
I actually was like in like I
57
00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,080
knew the Bible, you know forged
back which probably read it
58
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,600
three times with a young life
leader.
59
00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,360
If you're not familiar with
young life it's like this
60
00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,240
outreach thing that you do with
high school kids to help them
61
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,480
find God in a non threatening
non like fucking in your face
62
00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,000
street corner, Jesus saves
thing, you know just like you
63
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600
and I hanging out talking.
It's just the vibe and the and
64
00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,920
the relationships and the
friendships that that once those
65
00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,600
things blossom, then you kind of
open the door to, you know, is
66
00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:06,480
your soul prepared or not?
Well, during young life, Part of
67
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young life where skits like you
do skits and you make shit up
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and engage the kids and have
fun.
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And that's kind of what,
ironically enough got me into
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the whole the acting bug and the
performing bug.
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Because you get up there and
being in somebody's house,
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right?
But you stand in front of like
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30 kids in the living room and
he put on some stupid skit.
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Like we had one that was a
playoff of Wayne's World.
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It was Garth and barf.
And then our barfing was silly
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strangling, you know, But that's
that's really what kind of got
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my left side of my brain, 'cause
I write, I was a writer, right?
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I always wrote, but that the
performing side of it was
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introduced through that.
So the reason I'm telling the
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story is I met a couple people
during my tenure in young life.
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One was a drummer and one was a
guitar player.
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So we formed a band that never
really did anything, but that's
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that came from that.
And that's one of the reasons
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when I left, when I ventured
away through my life, they all
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chastised me because I was
leaving this Christian faith
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group to go be in a rock band.
Like, OK, so let me get this
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straight.
You Christians who believe fully
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in you know he who throws glass?
What?
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Who?
I don't know what the fuck it is
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now, but you?
Know who the judge shouldn't
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live in a glass.
My experience, this is not, you
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know, Right.
So in my experience, this is
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not.
I'm not, you know, baptizing the
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world with a garden host.
I got in trouble for that once
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on our show I did.
But you're going to judge me for
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wanting to pursue something that
could totally have been a
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vehicle on all levels.
But you chastisize me and then
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cut me out of their lives
completely because I left Young
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Life to be a lead singer in a
rock'n'roll band, which that
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band ended up leading me to you
so obviously.
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That group of people were
Christians or Christian.
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Christian music, I should say.
That's what you were doing.
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It wasn't Christian music.
No, no, it wasn't.
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It wasn't.
I mean, you know, my lyrics, My
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lyrics have overtones and and
nothing's ever everything had
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more than one meaning.
Whenever I thought this was
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maybe like a worship group.
Or something.
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Nope, Nope.
Just straight up rock'n'roll.
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Just just, you know, just
straight up, straight up Rock
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Band.
That that you.
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Know they just happen to be
Christians.
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Which was cool.
We never didn't exactly.
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Kind of like you too.
Well, I've been in.
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I was in a similar.
Situation that foundation Kind
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of, yeah.
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So elaborate on your situation
because it's, you know you
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choose that.
We talked about 3 Doors Down
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having that when I saw them in
concert with Candlebox and how
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Candlebox Cover Me was full on a
song about Kevin talking to God
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being like, what the fuck, man?
What the fuck?
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Come on.
And I think more people should
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be like, what the fuck in the
relationship with God?
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Because I swear to you.
How do we?
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Well, I mean, I don't, I don't
want to go down.
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I'm listening.
I don't want to go down to how
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do we know there's God Rd.
Because that just irritates
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people.
We're not no well.
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Yeah.
Well, we're no, I guess where
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I'm coming from is.
We're not.
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We're not, yeah?
I asked that path.
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We're we're.
I ask that question every day,
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man.
I mean, I've.
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I've never seen him or her or it
or whatever.
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You know, to your point, people
should question what they
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believe all the time, right?
You got to think for yourself,
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man.
You can't believe what somebody
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told you as a young child.
They, you know, now that I'm an
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adult, I look back.
And if you go?
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What did those people know?
That we're trying to tell me how
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life was right?
They only knew as much as I know
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and I don't know shit, so.
Yeah, yeah, I get that and that
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that.
To me, if you're not questioning
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things every day, then what the
fuck are you doing with your
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life?
Because everything, everything
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has a question and answer.
I mean, hell, you drive me down
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the street.
I question who the fuck's in
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front of me, why they're driving
so stupid.
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Right, absolutely.
That's a question.
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So you have to have
conversations with yourself.
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And if you're not answering your
questions on your own
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conversations, there's something
wrong with you.
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Correct?
Like people that say you're
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allowed to talk to yourself or
not, but but once you start
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answering your questions,
there's something wrong.
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No, once you fail to answer your
own questions in the
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conversation you're having with
yourself, that's where
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something's wrong because
there's a disconnect somewhere
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in your mind that you're not
understanding.
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The conversation you have is 2
sided, even though it's just you
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having the conversation.
But there's Did you know that
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Long Day was written?
There's so many people that just
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go through their emotions every
day, right?
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They don't think about what
they're doing, yeah.
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Oh yeah, that's, that's, it's
the no at all.
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No, they don't question like
coffins driving down the
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highway, to quote a line from
Point Break.
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Great movie, Great movie.
No, and I think, I think I mean
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from A and we're on topic of
religion, so we might as well.
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It was, well, the original 1,
not the remake, but a. 100%
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Yeah, just piss everybody off
because.
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But since we're on this topic
when I'm always going to stay
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here so.
I've completely changed my views
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on this subject.
Why was I was going somewhere
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that with with the concept of
like I can remember as a kid,
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like a small child, you know,
praying.
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Like, you know, I don't.
It was never ingrained to me
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from the monster.
But it was ingrained to me
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because I was going to church,
because the reason we went to
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church is so she could fuck the
dude she had an affair with for,
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you know, fucking ungodly
amounts of years where we were
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at church.
And I stopped going to church
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because she stopped picking us
up on time and I ended up being
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the last kid standing in the
parking lot for an hour.
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So I'm like, fuck it, I'm not
going to church anymore.
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So that's all on her.
But there's always, there's
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always like I do a lot with
homeless and I do a lot of
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outreach and it's kind of like
that thing.
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It's like granite Every every
choice you make in life has a
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consequence.
But when when you when I see the
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things that I see at the level
that I see them, choices are not
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if if there's a God, where is
God.
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Like why would a 2 year old get
kidnapped, you know, raped and
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assaulted for five years and
just to be found and then
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returned to his, you know,
rightful parents at the age of
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seven only to be mentally fucked
up for the rest of his life?
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So now that's a miracle.
Where's the God in that?
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No, now that's a miracle.
Right.
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But it's not a miracle.
How's it a miracle?
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That's what the Christians will
tell you.
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I'm just telling you that you're
advocate here's.
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That's why.
That's what the Christians will
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tell you.
Oh, what the miracle?
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Yeah.
Yeah, OK.
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Makes sense?
I'm with you.
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I think it's fucked up.
Yeah 'cause I wrote a song.
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Last.
Band I was in, I'm Yeah, Yeah,
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way fucked up, right?
So remember the song I wrote?
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Letter to God in the last band I
was in.
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I do, yes.
Yeah.
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So there's lyric and there's
lyric in there that that oh,
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that's escape me.
But why?
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Why do you offer?
It's kind of like why do you
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offer absolution where the
sinners sit next to the Saints.
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Because in Christian the concept
of Christianity you the ABC's
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you accept and believe and
commit.
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So you accept your life.
You accept that Jesus died for
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your sins.
You have full belief in that and
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you commit your life to living
Christ.
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Like, right?
The ABC's not always be closing
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but you know so the story rumor
has it, Dahmer one of the
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greatest.
And I'm not saying that as an
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asshole, but I've I've, I've,
I've always been engrossed with
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serial killers and mass
murderers in that dark side of
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life.
I don't.
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Know if you and I used to have.
Probably because.
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In depth conversations about
that, I remember I have the same
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fascination.
Right, right.
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Yeah.
So, right my my fascination
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probably stems come from being
abused and what not growing up.
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And then so it's just it took
that dark side.
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But the way to me to channel
that darkness was #1 writing #2
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music and performing.
But then I just would be
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engrossed in these
documentaries.
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So Dahmer, rumor has it Dahmer
found God while in prison,
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right.
So from a Christian standpoint,
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if if you're a full blown God
fearing Bible told in Christian,
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OK, and I'm not slamming anybody
because been there, done that.
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I used to.
The worst thing came out of my
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mouth for years was Fudge.
Not fuck, but fudge nothing
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against it.
Either if it helps that person.
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Dahmer found God in prison.
Dom, Right.
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Dahmer found God in prison,
according to many sources.
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So if that's if that was a true
and accurate statement and he
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truly did the ABC's of
Christianity, Dahmer's in heaven
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right now, even though he, he
killed and cannibalized and
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consumed and chopped up, You
know what's never really going
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to be known?
The true figure.
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So we'll just call, you know, 20
people.
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But he's legit.
He's, he's sitting.
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If there's a heaven, he's up
there right now.
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Chill.
Or up there, down there,
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wherever it's at, you know,
could be the astral playing on
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the other side of my tree for
all I know.
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But he's in heaven because he he
accepted, committed or accepted,
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believed and committed his life
according to Christian theology.
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Now if you're Catholic, doesn't
matter what the fuck you do, you
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just die.
You just die and go to purgatory
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for X amount of years to absolve
for your sins and then you taken
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on to the next level.
So it's kind of like I'm I was I
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was born in the Catholic Church
because I was 2 1/2 months
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early, but I was baptized
Methodist, which is lazy
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Catholic.
I was baptized Catholic.
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So, right.
So see, you're Catholic so
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there's nothing you can do wrong
in the eyes of Catholicism.
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You could go out right now on a
shooting spree and hit every you
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know Circle K 711 putting cap in
everybody's asses and and end up
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having a you know a smoking the
bandit trail police officer
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coming after you like you know a
three day standoff.
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And you finally give yourself up
and you go to prison get
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convicted of this mass slaying
of all these Circle K workers
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and you're sticking it to the
man in your death row.
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And 40 years from now because
our government fucking judicial
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system is so fucked up you're
going to be put to death but
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you're Catholic so you're cool
man.
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There's like and you know
there's nothing wrong you just
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you, you say a couple hairy
Marys and and so be it.
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Why do you think all the
mobsters were Catholic?
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OK, I got a question that I
just.
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Absolution man.
They all got absolved for their
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sins for Hail Marys.
I've just asked this question
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recently, so I'll ask you
because I value your opinion.
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OK.
Being raised a Christian, you
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are taught that you have to
accept Christ as your savior.
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He's died on the cross for all
your sins, correct?
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Correct.
We've agreed that far, OK?
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Yes.
So what happens to the Muslims
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and the Islam Islamic people,
the Hindus, the Buddhists, What
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happens to them when they die?
They're all going to hell
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because they don't accept Christ
as their savior.
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The Jews, even the Jews, don't
believe Jesus was the savior.
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Oh.
What happens to all those
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people?
According to Christian theology,
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if you don't believe, if you
don't accept, believe, commit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Yeah, they go to hell, Mike.
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You.
Know so this is where my.
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Suffering in the pit of fire?
It's the back conundrum.
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Slowly but surely that's where
the whole thing unravelled for
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me.
So it started unraveling there.
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I'm like everyone else is going
to hell because they don't
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believe in Christ.
I I just can't accept that.
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The second thing, that the
second thing that made me really
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sit up and go what's wrong with
this picture is that I learned
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that we can only translate 75%
of Hebrew because there's no
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numbers in the Hebrew language
that it's all letters.
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So we had to guess at 25% of
translating the Bible from
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Hebrew to English then.
And also one more #3 was that
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Constantine commissioned the New
Testament to be written 1000
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years after Christ walked the
earth, supposedly.
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And whether he did or didn't,
there's a lot of proof that he
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did.
Right.
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But still, they didn't write
these stories till 1000, years
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after you and I are telling
stories that happened 30 years
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ago to us, and we're kind of
remembering bits and pieces as
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we go.
Along 20 right, right for 20
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years.
Right.
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These books were written 1000
years later.
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You're telling me those stories
are accurate?
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Come on now.
I know, right?
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Well, here's the other thing
that.
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That that Mary, you know the.
Immaculate Mother of God, yes.
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Right.
I forget who I think John did.
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John write.
I'm drawing a blank now.
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But John?
John penned the the the half the
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Bible Right was all based on.
Well, there's the book.
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There's the book of John, and
then he also wrote the Book of
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Revelations.
It's a wiping.
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Well, what it was is was was
Mary was dictating.
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I heard this somewhere.
I thought it was fascinating,
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was dictating to the disciples
who pinned the books of the
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Bible telling Jesus's story.
The problem is, is that Mary was
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was eating natural remedy
mushrooms while she was telling
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these stories.
So she was hallucinating the
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entire time she was telling
these stories and they were all
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scribing them down, writing them
down South.
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And there's nobody to discount
that idea that that she was
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eating psychedelic mushrooms
that were naturally grown.
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Because back then everything was
naturally grown correct, you
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know, and and everything was
just a trip.
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Everything was just a trip.
But like he didn't part the Red
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Sea, you know, as it or he, he
could not have parted the Red
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Sea as it's as it stated.
He could have just, she could
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have just been tripping on on,
you know, mushrooms.
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And in her mind he parted the
sea, where he actually just
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maybe, swam across it.
Right.
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The Adam.
What is it?
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You know the Adam Muscaria.
Burning Bush was because MO,
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right?
It grows readily in that part
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of.
The world and and Moses was was
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right and and and Moses was
smoking a joint and he flipped
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it, you know, And that's when he
caught the Bush on fire And he
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was too embarrassed to say, yes,
I'm smoking pot to point out
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that that was me that caused
that.
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So he just said, oh, it's a
miracle from God, God's the
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burning Bush.
So there's all these little
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things.
This is history brought to you
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by Chris Dunham.
They're.
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Also, we're going to get lit up
for this one.
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No people.
OK, here's my here's my homework
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for the listening audience.
Go out and do some research
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because that's what I did.
To Chris's point, there's
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actually a guy named John Marco
Allegro, and he believes he's a
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renowned scientist, author.
You know, this is a guy who went
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to school, got educated, did
everything that society asked of
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him.
And he really believes that with
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the amount of mushrooms that
grew naturally in that part of
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the world, there was no
Internet, there was no
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television.
There wasn't 57,000 things to do
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on Saturday night.
So they were picking up cow
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patties and they were eating
mushrooms and they were tripping
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their balls off.
And there's two things that
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people should not talk about if
they've never done it, and
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that's have children and talk
about children.
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Or if you've never done drugs,
don't talk about doing drugs you
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don't know.
You've never been there.
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I've tripped my ass off many
times.
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I know exactly what it entails.
I can talk to you about it.
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I've been on plenty of trips.
It's great.
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I highly recommend it.
Do it under a safe environment
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with a guide.
Yeah, but that's what those
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people were doing.
And let me tell you, you are on
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another fucking planet when
you're doing it.
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You you are seeing and hearing
things that you believe are
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there, but nobody else can see,
right?
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So are they really there?
Am I really there?
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Am I really here?
Right, That's the thing.
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Because that's kind of like,
right, Exactly.
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This could all be a dream.
This could be the Matrix, man.
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We don't know.
We could all be plugged into a
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little conveyor belt of just
body fluids that's fueling the
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machine.
Totally.
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Just think about it.
You're you're born.
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You live.
You die.
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It's it's like, correct.
Yep.
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It's like that.
Your life is over like that.
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Like I'm, you know, I'm, I'm on
the other side of 50 now.
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And it's that.
It's that thing, man.
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It's just like, fuck, you know?
How much longer do I have to
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live, you know?
And that question crops up into
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your mind more and more does.
It not like when I was, Oh yeah.
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And when I was a kid, 50 was
fucking old man like.
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Dude, we thought we were turned
40 when we were 30.
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Over the hill party and you know
I well, yeah, Vision, Vision,
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the whole Vision song was I was
going to be dead when I was 30.
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We all, none of us thought we
were going to make it that.
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Far, yeah.
Exactly.
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Well, thank goodness.
You know but yeah it's it's a
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trip that right.
And it's a trip that I I I've
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sold homes you know in my 25
years of selling houses because
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that's what I do for a living as
I'm the real estate guy for
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those of you that don't know.
So when you're ready to sell
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buy, you call the real estate
guy for Arizona anyway, but when
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if thank you, I appreciate that.
So when.
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He sold me a house, so I know I
would.
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Sell the the adult community
homes right So the adult
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community jargon, you know when
I first got in the business you
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know you'd you'd I was 20 what
was it 99 so 2930 years old and
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I'd I'd sell houses to people
that wanted to go live in the
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adult communities which are 55
plus even back then it's like
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it's like they were old like I
can remember like they were like
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legitimately 55 was old man.
Oh yeah.
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And now the 50 is like the new
30 it's it's crazy and it's not
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so much technology because the
right.
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I mean life hasn't changed the
way you live it.
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I mean I'm more I'm you know
obviously I'm a physically
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active individual and I don't I
don't eat shit.
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I don't drink and.
Something changed.
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Though smoke, anything that's,
you know, going to make me look
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like I'm something had to right
somewhere along that path.
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In these last 25 years,
something had to have been
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evolved because why is it now 50
year olds or like 30 year olds?
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You know, Well, like like it's
just it's a trip and it's not.
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I just saw something on Facebook
the other day that showed Fred
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Sanford, Archie Bunker, George
Jefferson.
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And it said, you know, like
Archie was 46 or 52 when he did
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that show.
And oh, Don Knotts was like 50
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when he was on Three's Company.
Dude, they look like they were
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next to death.
Yeah, they did.
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Totally.
I'm. 50 I hope I don't look like
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I'm next to death, right?
I just turned 50.
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I hope I don't look like I'm
dying.
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No, no, you know.
I feel good.
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You don't.
Most and most people will.
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Most people try.
Yeah.
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Most people tell me I'm I'm 40s,
like low 40s.
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One every now and then.
So you're in your 30s?
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Like, no, come on, don't, don't
kiss my ass.
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But I just you know and there's
but there, right.
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But then there's legit.
Like again because I do so much
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with homeless and I I I
coordinate meals and things like
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that.
I'm on a board for a a Community
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Center.
Some of these homeless people,
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man, could be 20 years old and
you just fucking look at them
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you think they're 60.
Oh yeah.
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So it it really it's it's I
think a lot of it has to do with
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what you put in your what you
put in your body and how you
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live and and I think drinking is
a big thing because I haven't
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had a drink.
February will be 19 years and I
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think, I think booze definitely
weathers you and.
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You don't have to toll.
On your body, mentally and
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physically.
You can and just with somebody
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that's right, you know, just
been in the bar the whole life
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or sucking down gallons of vodka
every day.
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You're right.
It weathers you, man.
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Right, right.
Yeah.
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And then you have the ones that
are daily drinkers, that it may
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not weather them, but they it's
just a lot it it changes.
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It's that whole concept.
Like we went, we started with
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the religion, innuendo stuff.
You're welcome.
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But but like your body's, your
temple, it's the only one you're
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going to get.
Like this is it?
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You might.
Whether you believe your soul
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reincarnates and goes on to the
Astro planes and you go to
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purgatory, you go to heaven, you
know, you go to Ezlene Fields,
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whatever it may be, this is it.
You have one body to house your
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soul, right?
So there's one of those things
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that Elysian, sorry, you know,
just it's what you put in.
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Your body comes out whether it's
good or bad.
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Agreed.
You know it's fucking 78° today
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in Arizona, December 5th.
Like what?
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What the fuck?
I had said that because I had
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thrown my fan.
What?
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What is it in Pontiac?
Oh, it's not that bad.
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It was like you like. 12.
No, it's just damp, man.
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It's like 40°.
It kind of rained this morning.
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It's just that time of year
where, you know, it's just cold.
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Even at 40, it's cold.
Yeah, yeah, I had a buddy.
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Yeah, I oh, fucking 40s cold
here, dude.
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I had a friend that I helped.
I helped sell their house here.
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They're friends now.
Anybody I work with ends up
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being friends for the most part.
So they moved to Maine.
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Like Maine, like Arizona to
Maine, like, you know, That's
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cool.
That's cool.
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He posted a picture yesterday on
Facebook.
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Shout out to Chris Gibbs.
Hello.
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I'll have to make Chris Gibbs
listen.
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I'll tell him.
Yeah, I'll tell him that I name
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drop him.
We'll get a new listener out of
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it.
He posted a picture.
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Like.
Holy shit.
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Like it's just it's all white
and like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Hey, Mike.
I gave him a shout out.
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No, your buddy Chris Gibbs.
Hey, Mike, you fucking can you
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hear me?
Now you're being.
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Funny.
Oh, I thought you'd say.
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Hey, Chris, Me.
I got you.
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I knew that.
Yeah, my bad.
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Chris Gibbs.
Hey, yo, thanks for listening.
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Yeah, if you do.
Appreciate.
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Chris Gibbs.
Chris Gibbs, right.
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Yeah, there you go.
He's in Maine now, suffering the
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consequences of his move.
But I want that ass house.
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It's like an old Victorian
style.
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They want to set up a whole.
Yeah, well, I got a hook up for
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you.
They want to do like a whole bed
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and breakfast.
Super nice family, man.
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They had a realtor.
They were working with it
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completely, completely hosed
them.
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00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200
And they found me because they
lived in my same neighborhood,
519
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,640
you know.
Thankfully, we were able to get
520
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,800
them done and sold within 60
days and off and running and you
521
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,280
know, chasing their dreams,
which is awesome.
522
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Yeah, super cool people, man.
Super cool people.
523
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,240
You keep going black, you know
that.
524
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Your your screen keeps blacking
out.
525
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,120
I don't know if you know that or
not.
526
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,040
You're not blacking out to me,
I'm.
527
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880
Taking a picture of it, I'm
going to text it to you right
528
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,160
now.
And I'm still here, but you're
529
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200
blacking.
Out to me working with, I'm
530
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,640
going to send you a picture of
it, right?
531
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Now it's all good.
It's all good.
532
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920
I know you're still there, but
now when you see the picture,
533
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360
they just text you.
I just text it to you.
534
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720
Take a look.
And I forgot to turn my phone
535
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,720
off, so I'm going to get busted.
Out again.
536
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:42,330
Out.
It's a trip, right?
537
00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:49,370
I didn't get the text either.
I just texted to you, you're
538
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:52,450
Mike Michaels, right?
Last time I checked, oh, there
539
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:54,530
it is.
It's got the last time I
540
00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:56,050
checked, you were Mike Michaels,
yeah.
541
00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:59,090
Last time I checked, I was too.
There's another weird thing.
542
00:30:00,010 --> 00:30:02,730
It's got to go 2000 miles, but
come on man.
543
00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:05,880
Well, that is weird.
It's.
544
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Really weird.
It'll be all right.
545
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,520
There.
Oh, OK.
546
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,760
There we did.
Now they just went.
547
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760
They just they just left.
You read one at 4 O 7:00 PM, it
548
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
said.
And then they sent you another
549
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680
one.
So there you go.
550
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680
If anybody's wondering where
Mike is, he's still there.
551
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,320
You just can't see him.
I don't know why I'm still here.
552
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520
I can see me.
So do you think so?
553
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,880
So here, here.
All right, cool.
554
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,120
So here's a question for you.
So when when Jesus and Moses and
555
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920
the dudes were walking across
the desert, you know, and and
556
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,360
the hot barren wasteland of I'm
terrible geography.
557
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,520
So I don't know where they
walked.
558
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,280
Desert they were they were in.
Egypt modern day Israel to
559
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Egypt.
Right.
560
00:30:54,120 --> 00:31:00,280
So, so, right, so half a day
walking in the desert with no
561
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,800
end insight, right?
You know.
562
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Well, they walked for like 30.
You know, they had to be.
563
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640
They're just pissed off.
Right, 40 days and 40 nights.
564
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:14,120
You know, right, right and and
right and just like you know
565
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
that Jesus was like looking up
and being like, what the fuck,
566
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Dad?
Like what are you fucking making
567
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,720
me do?
It's the desert.
568
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560
There's nothing to drink.
There's nothing to eat.
569
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,000
It's fucking hot.
I have these ready ass sandals
570
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
on my feet.
I'm wearing what is the
571
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,280
equivalent of of a dress made
out of hemp because that's what
572
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,840
they probably made clothes out
of back then.
573
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
And I'm.
I'm digging shit out of my nose
574
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,880
because it's nothing but dry
wind blasting my face.
575
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960
You know, they were walking
through the desert just fucking
576
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,040
cussing him out, you know?
That's where God damn came out
577
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880
came from.
If you think about it, like who
578
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,440
thought of saying God damn it,
Jesus did because he's walking
579
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
in the desert.
He's like, God damn it, what the
580
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320
fuck are you doing to us?
Why do we got to keep walking
581
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,440
for another 30 days with no
food, no water?
582
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,840
What is this all about, man, You
know?
583
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,920
So I've always kind of thought
that that that swearing,
584
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:20,280
swearing came from Jesus.
The preamp is the one on the
585
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,160
left, far left.
How's that?
586
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Is that better?
Yes.
587
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Well then you'll sound, then
you'll, yeah.
588
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Then your voice will come
through.
589
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,160
But you were fine where you were
at.
590
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,320
That's just.
My bad.
591
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160
No, you're fine.
It sounds way better with it
592
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560
closer to you.
It'll It'll what?
593
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,440
It sounds way better with it
closer to you.
594
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Oh, right here.
Like this?
595
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Yeah, you just had your preamp
too hot to have the mic that
596
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,360
close.
Like mine's about at 11:00 if
597
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,600
that gives you A-frame of
reference.
598
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Oh, yeah.
Mine's about about between 11:00
599
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,200
and 12:00 now.
It was about between 2:00 and
600
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920
3:00.
You know, I don't, I don't.
601
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,280
I don't ever play with that
shit.
602
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,040
It was just, you know, item
checks.
603
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200
It's like we're just singing.
They would adjust everything for
604
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,480
me.
I don't know.
605
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Prima Donna.
Prima Donna OK.
606
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,440
We took care of it.
Prima donnas.
607
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,240
He was out doing PR for the band
and bullshitting with the
608
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,320
audience.
I know, I'm just saying.
609
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
I'm just being silly.
You did your part.
610
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Right giving away.
The front man.
611
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,760
You know, I did.
I did.
612
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160
I thank you.
So you did too, Mike?
613
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,880
I tried, you know.
So here's my favorite thing
614
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,120
about.
We have a We should have a
615
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,400
picture of Jesus.
Here's my Here's my favorite
616
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,000
thing that makes me laugh.
The hardest, OK, is that white
617
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400
people think that Jesus was
white.
618
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
They don't even realize where he
lived.
619
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
You know, nobody in the Middle
East was white the last time I
620
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,560
checked.
Ever.
621
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Not one person well, but every
picture I ever saw, Jesus, he
622
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,880
was white guy.
No.
623
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Agreed.
What's kind of like Santa Claus?
624
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720
The hypocrisy is just it knows
no bounds and I couldn't take it
625
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,840
anymore.
And then you know, right?
626
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,000
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
627
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,159
And I think maybe that's that's
the Jesus that was was inside
628
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,440
for 40 days after the 40 day
walk and trekked the desert
629
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,639
because he was fucking tired of
being out there.
630
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,400
So he just got pale white skin
from like living in a cave.
631
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
And when he emerged, I think
that that was when the first
632
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Polaroid was snapped of him,
this pale, white shaken man with
633
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880
the the long beard and hair,
because he'd been in a cave for
634
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,800
so long, recovering from the
just insane abuse his body took
635
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,199
walking the desert and the sun
beating down.
636
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,800
They didn't have umbrellas back
then.
637
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,199
They didn't have sunscreen.
Said by a person who writes
638
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,040
fiction, ladies.
And gentlemen in their shoes
639
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,880
they had flat sandals made out
of.
640
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Take it with a grain of salt
said by a man who writes
641
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880
fiction, ladies and gentlemen.
Take it with a grain of salt.
642
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,360
Take it with a grain of salt.
I like it.
643
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,880
Yes, I was into the story.
I just want to put the.
644
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,480
With a grain of salt.
With AI.
645
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680
Want to put the PSA out there?
Guy who writes fiction.
646
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
I always thought that be a yeah,
I always thought that'd be a
647
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,200
funny bit for comedian, a funny
bit for a comedian would be
648
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
talking about Jesus's walk
through the desert, you know,
649
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720
and that's how swear words were
originated.
650
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,960
I'd be pissed.
Because.
651
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,320
I'd be pissed off my daddy let
me get nailed to a cross.
652
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
We'll talk about faith in an
entity.
653
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Oh yeah, like, really like what?
I mean idea that was so bad,
654
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,320
man.
I love my dad a lot.
655
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Desert like he never let me get
nailed to a cross, right?
656
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,240
Yeah.
Ever.
657
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,280
You know, Not once.
Never let me get hurt.
658
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,720
Granted.
No.
659
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:55,560
Saved my life, in fact.
Granted.
660
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,520
And you know, that was that was,
you know, well, that's, you
661
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
know, that's a good dad.
My dad's a piece of shit that
662
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,440
you know.
My dad was awesome about My dad
663
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
is awesome, you know not was it?
Is what it is.
664
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,400
That was the.
Hand.
665
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
He still is.
I still remember Saturday for
666
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,040
coffee.
Every All right on so I have a
667
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,240
cool I have a really really
salted the earth person that
668
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,600
that that I kind of if I could
adopt A father you know reverse
669
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,320
it like you can adopting me but
I'm going to adopt you.
670
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:34,480
I would have Rick Rodart by
thought by all means just guy
671
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,920
was with such a stand up human
he still is he's such a stand up
672
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
human being.
He's just, you know, they just
673
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,720
had their anniversary, him and
his wife and I don't know how
674
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,440
long, but it's got to be like 50
years somewhere approaching
675
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
that.
Just it's still like they were
676
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,600
the people we moved to champion
across the street in 76.
677
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,600
And I still talk to the family
to this day like on a regular
678
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,760
basis.
You've seen him on my
679
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,160
appreciation page.
Rick Rodarto.
680
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,640
Absolutely.
On stuff.
681
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Yeah.
Yeah.
682
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,760
Super nice guy.
I should drop this on the
683
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
appreciation group.
Hey, check this out.
684
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Although it kind of, it's a
different, a different version
685
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,320
of Chris that not everybody
might be ready for in that
686
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
group.
I just think that you should
687
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,880
start a podcast.
I need the link to the show so I
688
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,920
can start.
The the podcast just needs its
689
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,720
own Facebook page.
Oh yeah, I need the new page.
690
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,960
Yeah, yeah.
Then you can go crazy with that
691
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
and you can invite who you want.
To invite and I'm.
692
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,760
I've given up.
Yeah, I've given up on my guy
693
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,640
that was doing the thing.
I'm going to go to Fiver.
694
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960
Fiver is pretty legit.
They've done some cool stuff for
695
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,120
me over there.
So I'm going to have Fiver
696
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,120
create us a logo, OK?
It'll cost like 10 bucks for me
697
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,200
to do that because, you know,
they're overseas and they want
698
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,960
to make money.
So you say I want to make a logo
699
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
for a podcast.
OK What kind of logo do you
700
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,760
want?
Well, I want a microphone and
701
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,840
two caricatures of people called
the Chris and Mike Show.
702
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Oh, I can do that and have it to
you by next Tuesday.
703
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,880
Oh, thank you.
And then next Tuesday, I get the
704
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,400
thing.
And.
705
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400
OK, here's your $10.
Oh, thank you very much.
706
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:20,280
Everybody's happy.
I'm glad to play you Tuesday for
707
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,040
the hamburger today.
That was it.
708
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,320
That's wrong.
Wrong accent for that.
709
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
That was wimpy.
That was.
710
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,760
Yeah.
Yeah, that was that one.
711
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,920
Yeah, he did.
But that's OK though.
712
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,400
That's that's the beauty of
live.
713
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,720
Not so live podcasting with with
the taller.
714
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,880
He was a wuss.
Right.
715
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Like remember the movie Popeye?
The Robin Williams Popeye movie.
716
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400
I do.
I went to the movie.
717
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,720
Theater.
Do you remember that Robin
718
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,880
Williams Pop.
Oh, dude, what a what a fuck.
719
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,560
What a fucking great movie that
was.
720
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
That sucks that he killed
himself, but I get why he killed
721
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,400
himself.
Because, you know, you don't
722
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,240
like when it's time for me, When
it's time for me to wear
723
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,960
diapers, Dude, I'm Peter Pan and
like, everybody knows, like,
724
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Nope.
If the doctor says, yeah, you
725
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,000
got to wear diapers.
Fuck you dude.
726
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Where's the roof access?
Because yeah, I don't want to
727
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,960
wear like that either.
You come in wearing diapers.
728
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,040
I ain't even wearing diapers.
It's not happening.
729
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160
No interest.
And you know right.
730
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,400
And I'm not Catholic, so it
doesn't matter if I Peter Pan
731
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400
off a building.
You, on the other hand, you
732
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Catholics, you can't do that
shit.
733
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,680
That's blasphemy.
I'm a lazy Catholic, I'm a
734
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Methodist.
So it's fucking game on.
735
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,240
Listen, I was only baptized
Catholic and then we ended up
736
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,960
going to the Presbyterian Church
because that was my dad's
737
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,200
church.
So I only ever got baptized
738
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Catholic.
And but when I first met you, I
739
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,720
was still pretty indoctrinated
into that side of life.
740
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,440
But like I said, I started doing
my own research and asking my
741
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,760
own questions, and I started
learning things that just didn't
742
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,440
add up for me.
So I developed my own religion.
743
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,320
And if anybody wants to join,
I'm not a very I'm not a very
744
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,880
demanding cult leader, but my
religion is.
745
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200
I try and be a better person
tomorrow than I was today,
746
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400
right?
I try to not hurt anybody
747
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080
intentionally.
If I don't like you, I just
748
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,520
don't talk to you.
Right.
749
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,280
So I thought about creating
denimism.
750
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,840
Right.
You know.
751
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,480
I'm just too lazy to be a cult
leader, man.
752
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,360
I just don't have it in my
schedule.
753
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,560
You know, There's a lot of
sports to watch, a lot of
754
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
relaxing to do.
I'm not looking to be a go
755
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,800
getter, you know, 24/7.
I need a little downtime.
756
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
I enjoy the hell out of doing
this podcast and writing some
757
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,680
music, and beyond that, I just
don't have a lot of extra
758
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,280
motivation.
But I know how people get sucked
759
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,120
in.
Once you once you hit the 50
760
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,520
man, you know.
Oh right.
761
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,880
Well, see, I think that that
some people need to be told how
762
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,120
to live.
They need to be told they have
763
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,400
to pray every day, they have to
tithe, they have to show up, you
764
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680
know, at the church.
They have to pay their dues.
765
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,520
Some people need that and
listen.
766
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
If that works for you, that's
great.
767
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Other people have nothing
against it.
768
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,720
Don't.
But well, absolutely not at all.
769
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800
More power to you if you need
that kind of structure and
770
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,080
guide, because I had it like for
years and years and years and
771
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,920
years, years but.
Didn't take.
772
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,880
You know, once I went to
one-on-one conversation with the
773
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,040
minister of the Church of no.
Well, I took to the point I
774
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
forget when how old I was, but I
want to say 20 ish.
775
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Maybe between 2122 I went and
and was having a struggle and I
776
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,640
went and talked to the pastor,
Tom Wilson.
777
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,920
The only reason I remember his
name is because Tom Wilson was
778
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,320
the artist for Ziggy and he had
always used Ziggy cartoons in
779
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,840
his sermons, which I always
thought was kind of weird,
780
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,000
right?
But he lectured me in our
781
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,360
one-on-one and plural pluralized
it.
782
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,480
He was reciting A sermon.
So I stopped him like I do.
783
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,760
And I'm like, dude, you just
called me friends, plural.
784
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,680
I'm one person.
You're you're reciting A sermon
785
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,280
to me.
I'm done.
786
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,920
I got up and left.
I haven't gone back to church
787
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,600
since.
Unless it was with Nikki and the
788
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,280
kids going to the Catholic side
of life because they're all
789
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:24,560
Catholic and I'm not.
But so disingenuous in a
790
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,600
one-on-one conversation with
somebody who was actively
791
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,240
involved in the church, that
church I taught what was a
792
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:33,520
Sunday school?
The five year olds.
793
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,080
That was fun.
And yeah, treating me like I was
794
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,040
a sermon, I'm like, you fucking
asshole.
795
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,360
So I think I left and that's
when I started saying fucking
796
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,520
drinking beers and you know,
going down the normal path of a
797
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,160
21 year old.
You know, yeah, well, we had a
798
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,800
lot of fun.
Kind of like when Bono's Halo
799
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720
exploded under Octoon, baby and
he discovered Vegas.
800
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:08,680
I'll tell you when, when I 100%
just realized that for me it was
801
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,160
all just nonsense, was the first
time that I ever did mushrooms
802
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,840
because I just had a sense of
overwhelming.
803
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
I've taken myself far too
seriously.
804
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:31,240
You know, I encountered beings
that just kept laughing and
805
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:36,000
joking and saying, you know,
they were they were speaking in
806
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,960
a language that I didn't really
understand at the time, but it
807
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,400
was a feeling that I could sense
they were just saying you're
808
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,680
you're taking your life too
seriously.
809
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,800
You're too hard on yourself,
You're carrying around a
810
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160
tremendous amount of guilt
that's going to kill you.
811
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,680
And for me, it was just thinking
that everything that I did was a
812
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,440
sin, right?
You know, everything the church
813
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,360
says was a sin.
I was pretty much doing while we
814
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
were in the band on a daily
basis.
815
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,720
So it was a lot of guilt to be
carrying around.
816
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,640
I just had to let it go because
for me, I wasn't hurting anybody
817
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,800
except.
Myself, right?
818
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,640
Right.
But in the world of Christian
819
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,560
theology, as long as you pray
and ask for forgiveness every
820
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,360
night, you don't get in trouble.
Yeah, well, that's a lot of
821
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
responsibility too.
I'd.
822
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,920
You know, just.
Just more nonsense.
823
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,760
You know, If I do something
wrong, I do something wrong.
824
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Did the devil make me do it?
Well, I don't know.
825
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,320
I didn't seem so.
If I do something right, did God
826
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,160
make me do it?
I don't know.
827
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,680
I didn't seem so.
There's been a lot of you got to
828
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,640
have faith for the whole 50
years I've been on this planet,
829
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,920
and the only person that really
has ever, 100% not let me down
830
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,720
in the end is me, because nobody
can live your life for you.
831
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,120
There's plenty of people who
helped me get to where I'm at,
832
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:19,120
and I'm fortunate and I love
them, but holy shit, man, at the
833
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
end of the day, the only person
that makes you a good person is
834
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,360
you.
Yeah, Bottom line.
835
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Yeah, I agree.
I just try and be a better
836
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,280
person every day.
I try not to hurt anybody.
837
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,200
I even if somebody's does wrong
by me, I try and take a deep
838
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,000
breath and say I feel sorry for
that person.
839
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,080
I hope they have a better life
from this point forward because
840
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
I enjoy living now.
Man, life is fun.
841
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:50,230
I thought that was you texting
me, but.
842
00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:52,150
I agree.
I'm texting my daughter right
843
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:53,430
now.
That's why I seem distracted.
844
00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:55,640
I apologize.
No, it's all good.
845
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,520
My daughter, my daughter reached
out and asked me a question.
846
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,400
It's all good, man.
My phone just went off and I saw
847
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
you were texting so I thought I
was doing something wrong even.
848
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Though they even though they
drive you nuts, not nothing's
849
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,600
wrong.
Everything's cool.
850
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,560
No family first.
Off.
851
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Everything's cool, man, you
know?
852
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaking of people who helped me
when I moved back home after
853
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,080
getting sober, they were the
first people to believe in me.
854
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,640
So there you have it.
You know, Mom and Dad let me
855
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880
crash at their house until I got
back on my feet.
856
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,720
That's a lot to ask of somebody,
so.
857
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:29,960
That was nice of them.
You know why?
858
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Because they gave you something
to believe in.
859
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,640
Absolutely.
That might be a.
860
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Hit Well, the nice thing is you
have that as an option and what
861
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,880
was that something to believe
in?
862
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,760
I was just being funny.
That was a joke.
863
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,360
I know, I know.
I was.
864
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,000
I was about to pull the lyrics
out.
865
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,080
But that.
But whenever I think of
866
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
something to believe in I it
goes to every rose has a stone.
867
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,600
I don't know why, yeah.
They were two.
868
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Different talk because because
because the Mario's Your Throne
869
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,800
is that we both like Silent is
still in the dead of the night.
870
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640
But that's not the start of
something to believe in.
871
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,160
I forget what the start of
something to believe in is.
872
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,840
And that's a great song.
Like like the original version
873
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,760
of that song.
Because there was something over
874
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640
the years I heard the demo of
that.
875
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Oh, what a not the demo.
The original version of the
876
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:22,640
thing was a fucking joke, man.
I don't know who Brett the the
877
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,160
new the the released one
absolutely.
878
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,800
But the demo version was just
like what the fuck are you
879
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,880
singing about Brett?
And so I don't know who came in
880
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,280
there and produced that and made
him forced him to change lyrics
881
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,080
and structure the song.
But you know that dude should
882
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
get a paddle back because where
it started from and to the end
883
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,520
product night and day, man.
If you ever have a chance to
884
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,680
listen to that it's not the
original demo version of
885
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,680
something to believe in.
It's it will it.
886
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,000
It will fucking knock you on
your ass How bad it was legit.
887
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,240
And I I love, I love a lot of
poisons music.
888
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,160
I do.
Choose you stuff, but the stuff
889
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
that has substance to it and
that was one of them.
890
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:16,880
That one of them that I thought
were fantastic but you know it's
891
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,000
it's the cool thing like every
now and then I'll hear something
892
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000
on Sirius got less than the
SiriusXM a lot and they'll do
893
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,280
they'll play demos of stuff and
like they played a point a Pink
894
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Floyd demo for Kung Fu and I'm
fucking no sorry doesn't work.
895
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,600
The context is there the the you
know the the structure of the
896
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,160
song was kind of there
informing.
897
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
But what they what they ended up
producing was so much better
898
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,000
than a demo like just.
Well, that's the way it's a
899
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,600
demo, right?
Because you got to, right?
900
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
You're like, we had everything
that we used to do.
901
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Your grandma was an outline,
right?
902
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Yeah.
It's just like an outline that
903
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,680
you used to write in school.
Right.
904
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Exactly.
Yep.
905
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,760
Yep.
Nice analogy, Guitar player.
906
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Good job.
Yeah.
907
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Hey, thank you.
Good job.
908
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,600
You should call yourself the
guitar player, because I'm the
909
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,400
taller guy today.
Probably taught to me about the
910
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,200
drummer, I'm sure.
You know how to change your name
911
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520
on this, right?
So you don't have to be Mike
912
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,400
every time.
I'm sure I changed it to Mike at
913
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,200
one time.
But you know, you know me, man.
914
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,960
I do shit.
And then I forget how I did it.
915
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,880
No.
How do you change your name?
916
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,960
I'll look for it.
I'll find it.
917
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,400
It's when you when you first log
in, it asks me who I am.
918
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,160
Yeah, that's who I am.
So that would be a thing for
919
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,760
next podcast to surprise me with
a new name, not just Mike,
920
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,800
because the mic could be the
microphone.
921
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,360
You know even though it's Mike
not MIC, it's weird.
922
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,520
You keep blacking out, man.
It's, it's.
923
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,200
Are you tripping right now on
the?
924
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Podcast I am not you.
Just keep.
925
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,240
Going in and out of darkness.
100% No.
926
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,280
I didn't think you were.
I have not taken mushrooms in,
927
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,640
well, at least 15 years,
probably 17 years.
928
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,240
Wow.
No, it's been a long time.
929
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,480
No, there's nothing wrong that's
not that's not even anything to
930
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,560
be proud of.
I'd do them again in a heartbeat
931
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,600
if somebody hand them to me.
Well, I know, but I'm just, I'm
932
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,920
just, I'm just saying for that,
you know, it's still you've
933
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,280
abstained from psychedelic
tripping.
934
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,880
No, you know.
Only because I have the
935
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,600
opportunity, let's not.
Go What are your plans for the
936
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,600
rest of the week there, my
friend?
937
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,720
Let let's be clear, we're going
for.
938
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,560
The rest of the week.
Hold on.
939
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Let's be clear on a couple
things.
940
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,680
We're going to talk about how we
are recovering addicts in the
941
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,480
one breath, and I'm going to
tell you how I enjoy smoking
942
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,240
marijuana and I would do
hallucinogens again in a
943
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,920
heartbeat.
There's a reason for that.
944
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Nobody's ever died doing the
marijuana and nobody's ever died
945
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,520
from doing mushrooms.
People have gone crazy doing
946
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,160
acid because they did too much
and they went on a bad trip.
947
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680
I'm not saying that any of this
is safe and that you should do
948
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,040
it.
I don't condone it.
949
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,240
Too much but.
For me, right, the hallucinogens
950
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,120
changed my life.
It's.
951
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Keeping it real, raw and
relevant.
952
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,000
It's the Christian like show we
forgot, right?
953
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,920
Say that again.
We we do.
954
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,520
You like how you got to we're
we're real raw and relevant on
955
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,640
the Chris and Mike Show and it
only took me 51 minutes and 50
956
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,480
seconds to announce to the
listeners what the show is
957
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,560
actually called.
Because we started the show off
958
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,280
today with me singing nothing
man lyrics that unless you know
959
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,800
who we are, you have no idea
what the fuck that was.
960
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,880
But you're thinking, hmm, that's
catchy.
961
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Where's the music segue, Chris?
Is very good at covering up.
962
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Timeless.
When I'm screwing up.
963
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,880
So that's what he was doing,
ladies and gentlemen, was
964
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,080
covering my ass because for some
reason the intro music wouldn't
965
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,360
play today.
That's my vent for the podcast.
966
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,040
I hit the play button.
That's all you can do.
967
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040
It is, But maybe in post
production we'll just call you
968
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Mike, because that's what your
name says right there, Mike.
969
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,160
I prefer to be call you, Mike.
Yeah, that's.
970
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,840
Great.
Maybe in POST?
971
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Production makes life easier for
me at the beginning.
972
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,280
Like I used to put in when I did
my episodes of Good News
973
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Arizona, I would film Little Man
doing something fun.
974
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,000
And he was on the He's on the
end of every single episode.
975
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,200
All 106 of them.
That's all.
976
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,360
Not all of them.
Maybe maybe 100 of them.
977
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,160
He's at the very end of every
episode doing something.
978
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,480
That's totally awesome.
Yeah, which is cool.
979
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,080
He doesn't realize it.
You know, once he gets older.
980
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,440
And I'll tell him, Hey, go watch
that and watch watch it till the
981
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,880
end and.
He'll and I don't, you know, I
982
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,360
don't know did we actually
record the fact that we
983
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
confirmed a guest that will be
upcoming at a later date here.
984
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,960
I don't think that got recorded,
so.
985
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,200
We talked about it, we talked
about it last week, but I don't
986
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,200
think we we touched on it more.
Than that so.
987
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,000
What you could do?
When's it coming on?
988
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,240
When's it coming on?
Whenever we want.
989
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,400
Do you have that?
OK, So what we need to do is we
990
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,400
need to do a little teaser.
So you need to get me a a a
991
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,680
picture or two of him so then I
can do a quick little YouTube
992
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,720
short and announce that he's
coming on the show.
993
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,120
We need to know when he's coming
on the show so then we can we
994
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,320
can prepare.
I had this thing I want to try.
995
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,560
It'll be difficult for all three
of us to participate unless
996
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:10,120
there's some planning.
But my idea is the I'm hesitant
997
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,920
to say it on air because I'm
afraid somebody's going to steal
998
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,480
it.
Because I used to do this thing
999
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,240
where it was, it was karaoke in
the car and then all of a sudden
1000
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080
there was karaoke in the car was
a bit.
1001
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,280
So I'm going to text it to you
because I'm, I'm afraid it's
1002
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,600
such a brilliant idea when you
see the text that why didn't I
1003
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,240
think of that like 20 years ago?
Why hasn't anybody thought of
1004
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,120
that?
Because I'm that's how stupid my
1005
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,480
brain works sometimes.
I'm super excited to get this
1006
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,080
text.
Ladies and gentlemen, one of the
1007
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,360
ideas behind this podcast was
when we were in the band.
1008
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:48,320
One of my favorite things to do.
I don't know.
1009
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,320
I can only speak for me because
I am me was to sit around and
1010
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
bullshit with the guys in the
band and we would have super
1011
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,280
deep conversations that would go
on for hours and hours and hours
1012
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,960
because we were young and we
didn't need sleep.
1013
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,960
So that was part of the idea,
was to introduce you guys to a
1014
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,800
way of thinking that you
probably haven't been exposed to
1015
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,080
on a level that we've had many,
many, many, many, many times for
1016
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,960
hours.
So that was part of the idea was
1017
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,080
to be Privy to conversations
and.
1018
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,880
And to me, yeah.
And that's that to me is the
1019
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,560
thing that nobody really ever,
ever, ever, ever touches on when
1020
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,240
it comes to to bands.
Right, Right.
1021
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,960
I got thumbs up.
He got the idea.
1022
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,920
You just got to wait.
Oh yeah.
1023
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,000
I'll, I'll wait for.
It the the right but see and and
1024
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,720
and you now knowing what that is
right.
1025
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,440
Aren't you shocked that nobody's
done that?
1026
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,160
I am.
Like, think about it.
1027
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Like, think about the media,
right.
1028
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,160
And some of the shows that are
on, you know, late nights, like
1029
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,440
there's I'm, I'm, I'm.
And just I'm shocked.
1030
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
I might have to hit, so we might
have to hit a different point
1031
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,040
before I do that one.
What three different, You know
1032
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,320
what I mean that but that's the
thing.
1033
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
But I think that would it won't
be the whole thing, right.
1034
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,560
But I think it'll be a segment.
We'll call that and then we'll,
1035
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,800
we'll do what the text
references during the Q&A.
1036
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440
So maybe make it like a 5 minute
thing, like maybe 10 questions
1037
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,880
that you know I'll ask one, you
ask one that type of thing like
1038
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,360
you'll have your five loaded
questions, I'll have my 5 loaded
1039
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,920
questions.
We won't tell him, so he has no
1040
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,360
idea what the fuck we're going
to ask.
1041
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,960
I I actually makes it even more
funny.
1042
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,480
I actually have responding.
A better guest to do that with.
1043
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,240
I think we should do with all
our guests.
1044
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:57,240
Kind of like when Holmberg and
KUPD years ago used to do this
1045
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,360
thing.
Anybody that called into his
1046
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,640
show, I don't know if you
remember this or not, but
1047
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,400
anybody called into his show
that he interviewed, he would do
1048
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,040
what was called a pause and
toss.
1049
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Remember that I?
Do I do.
1050
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,280
What's his first name?
Pete.
1051
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,280
Pete Holmberg.
So for those of John.
1052
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,400
John Holmberg.
Holberg's Morning Sickness.
1053
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,640
That was it.
Holberg's.
1054
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Morning.
But so yeah, so.
1055
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,480
So for those of you that don't,
that don't know.
1056
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Yeah.
So those he's still on the air.
1057
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,120
But those of you that don't
know, his paws and toss would be
1058
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,080
he'd call, like, say, say The
Rock would call in and he'd be
1059
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
interviewing The Rock about an
upcoming show, an upcoming
1060
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,440
movie, whatever, whatever the
hell, right.
1061
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,800
So then the last question he'd
asked everybody the same was,
1062
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,880
was what movie when you're a kid
that you would watch on VCR?
1063
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,120
Because back then VCRS were
ruled the world.
1064
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,320
There was no DVR in anything.
You had to actually get up, put
1065
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,920
a tape into a machine, press
play, and then go sit down with
1066
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760
your remote control.
So here's one question to
1067
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,000
everybody, Regardless of who
they were, whether they're a
1068
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,360
rock musician, superstar or a
baseball player or politician,
1069
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,840
it didn't matter.
Anybody from A-Z every single
1070
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,240
level in life, it didn't matter.
You got this question, What was
1071
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320
your pause and toss go to when
you were a kid?
1072
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,840
And what that meant was watching
a movie like like an 80s movie.
1073
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Breakfast Club wouldn't have it.
Fast time Jurism on high.
1074
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Jennifer Jason Li, right.
Well, I'll think about it
1075
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,920
though.
Fast time, Jurism on high when
1076
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Jennifer Jason Lee was, was, was
in the pool room with Damone.
1077
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,160
Right.
And then when that scene was
1078
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,400
over, she was laying there butt
ass naked, you know, which was
1079
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,000
shocking, you know, to anybody
back then because holy shit, you
1080
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,200
saw everything.
Rocking.
1081
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,320
The pubic area, that's a pause
and toss moment.
1082
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
So the Rock would say, Oh well,
I every time fast times would
1083
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,760
come on When I was 13 years old.
I'd pause that scene after
1084
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,440
Damone and and whatever Jennifer
Jason Lee's character's name was
1085
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,240
after getting Stacy.
When Damone and Stacy had sex in
1086
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,160
the pool room, was Damone left?
Stacy would just sit there butt
1087
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,840
ass naked for all the world to
see.
1088
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,280
He.
Took off because he came and
1089
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,200
that's.
A pause and toss.
1090
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,520
She'd pause the movie to freeze
that picture of her butt ass
1091
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,280
naked, take care of business,
and then press play.
1092
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,800
Pause and pause.
So I'm thinking we should do the
1093
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,280
text thing.
The text thing that I sent you
1094
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,640
that idea with everybody and we
limit it to like 10 total
1095
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,760
questions.
I have 5.
1096
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,400
You have 5:00 and it's it's
somewhere in the interview that
1097
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,840
it's because you want to have,
you want to have.
1098
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080
We want to have some type of
structured thing concept like
1099
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,360
with good news Arizona, we had
the rapid fire news.
1100
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,760
We had just the good news.
Then we had live on location.
1101
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,160
But everybody looked forward to
one of those elements of the
1102
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,480
show because it was consistent.
So if we consistently have that
1103
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:50,760
thing and we call it that like I
text you, then we have we have 5
1104
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160
questions that I have 5, you
have 5.
1105
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,600
And we don't know what our
questions are.
1106
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
That's the beauty of it.
That's what makes it funny
1107
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,720
because you may know a guess and
I may not know that guess like
1108
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,120
this guy.
And then I'll, I'll have
1109
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,280
somebody come on and you may not
know him, but I will.
1110
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,360
So the benefit of having just
five random questions from each
1111
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,600
of us that have no bearing on
what what we're talking about is
1112
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,520
that makes it even funnier.
And then you add that element to
1113
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,480
it, it's going to, you know,
those are those little hooks,
1114
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,120
like in our songs, our hooks,
right.
1115
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,240
You got to have a hook to make
the song stick.
1116
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,480
Correct.
So I'm done selling the ID to
1117
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720
you because I know you like it.
So that's the concept behind it.
1118
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,920
It's not.
It's not.
1119
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,360
It's nothing more so than having
something to look forward to
1120
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,640
every episode.
When we have guests, that is.
1121
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,080
While we're on that subject,
before I forget, I made myself a
1122
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,080
note.
We actually had somebody from
1123
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,120
Austria watch the podcast and
now they've watched it twice.
1124
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,160
Austria.
So if you are that person right
1125
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,560
on, leave us a comment with a
way to get a hold of you,
1126
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,280
because we would like to know
how you found us, because now we
1127
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,560
know you've watched it twice.
I can see it on my right.
1128
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Austria, that's right.
Yeah.
1129
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Austria the country, right?
On.
1130
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,720
They're 2% of our viewership.
Austria, Austria.
1131
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,160
That'd be cool to have have.
I would totally like to have
1132
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,720
that person on the.
I would totally like to have
1133
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,280
them on the podcast.
That's what I'm saying.
1134
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,320
Find a way to get a hold of us.
There's AQ and a part at the
1135
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,480
bottom of the podcast page, so
when they go to listen, they can
1136
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,080
leave me a comment.
And if you want to give me an
1137
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,080
e-mail address or a Facebook
page or a way to get a hold of
1138
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,520
you, we'd love to know how you
found us.
1139
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,800
That's awesome.
So thank you for listening.
1140
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,280
And drop us a comment.
Yeah.
1141
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,880
That's way awesome.
Yeah, there you go.
1142
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,280
So I'm going to Vegas Thursday,
so let's just wrap this puppy
1143
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,840
up.
Man birthday's tomorrow.
1144
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,120
She's on her way home, so we're.
Going to Happy birthday, Nikki.
1145
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,680
I know, I know.
Yeah, I'm not.
1146
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,320
I don't like Vegas, man.
I don't.
1147
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,800
I don't like Vegas, to be honest
with you.
1148
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,680
I don't drink in this.
I'm a gambler.
1149
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,480
I don't.
I'd see.
1150
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,600
I don't like the gamble either.
So it's just it's it was hey
1151
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,760
let's go to Vegas for your
birthday.
1152
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,800
So we're going to do stuff other
than, you know, but I'm just
1153
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,000
not.
I'm not a big.
1154
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,440
You need to hit the craps table
with me.
1155
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Really.
Trust me.
1156
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Oh, yeah.
We'd have a blast.
1157
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,560
OK.
Yes.
1158
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Oh, yeah.
I'd teach you all the ends.
1159
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,120
And I was a playing crap.
We'll plan that out.
1160
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,320
You'll have a blast.
Trust we'll.
1161
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,280
Plan that out next year.
We'll do that, absolutely.
1162
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,960
I got five weeks of vacation.
We'll plan that out.
1163
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,360
All right.
So again, this is Chris.
1164
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,200
Oh, see, there you go.
OK Oh, dude.
1165
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Right on.
OK, so there you go.
1166
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,160
So this has been the Chris and
Mike show.
1167
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,400
He's he's Mike as it says right
there on his side name.
1168
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,120
And then I'm I'm, I'm a taller
guy.
1169
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,880
He's the taller guy.
So you know, there you go.
1170
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,920
Thank you everyone for tuning
in.
1171
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,720
Make sure that you hit that
follow button.
1172
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,120
Hit the follow button on the
Spotify share with your friends.
1173
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Feel free to post it all over
social media.
1174
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,200
It doesn't do us any good if
nobody's listening.
1175
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280
So this isn't a secret.
Share it with everybody.
1176
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,480
No, right.
And remember, the the opinions
1177
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,920
shared in this broadcast are
purely our own.
1178
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,000
We have no intention of stepping
on anybody's toes or, you know,
1179
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,880
pissing people off.
You know, we have lawyers and
1180
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,920
attorneys, you know, all over
the world stationed ready to to
1181
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,240
pounce on me if you try to
pounce on us.
1182
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,800
So behave yourselves.
Not really.
1183
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,800
We love you, but really?
Right, right.
1184
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,200
It doesn't matter who you think
Jesus is, you know is because.
1185
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,960
We love you if you're listening
to this podcast.
1186
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,360
We just, it's just, you know.
It's all about love, man.
1187
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
exactly.
1188
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Nothing but love.
The world needs more love.
1189
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,080
Right, not.
Hair Love.
1190
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,560
Not like John Lennon and Yoko in
the bad Hair.
1191
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,880
Love.
Just love, man.
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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,960
Just just, you know, believe in
yourself, you know?
1193
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,000
Be kind.
Just open the door for.
1194
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,880
Open a door for somebody, you
know.
1195
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Buy somebody's coffee when
they're behind you in line.
1196
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,320
You know, shit like that.
Absolutely.
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01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Do random things.
Random things.
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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,720
Like you know, it's this, it's
the silly season.
1199
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,200
Go grab a a thing off the Angel
tree and buy a present for
1200
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,960
somebody.
And teenagers, mind you, are the
1201
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,280
ones that get shafted.
Everybody wants to buy presents
1202
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,280
for the 012345 year olds on the
Angel tree.
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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Teenagers get fucked, man.
Teenage.
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01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,640
Our fostered kids too.
And so be mindful of that.
1205
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,160
If you're gonna buy a 2 year old
gift, well fucking grab a $25
1206
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,880
Amazon gift card for a 13 year
old.
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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,120
You're gonna make their day.
I mean, their day is gonna suck
1208
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,520
Anyway.
When a couple years ago I did, I
1209
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:55,480
played Santa at a meal service
and it was cool, but it sucked
1210
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,640
because we had James and I, this
other volunteer coordinator.
1211
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,960
We we we gathered presents and
stuff and and so we had it all
1212
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,920
set out.
I had this bad ass Santa suit.
1213
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,400
I'm not the real Santa,
obviously, for those of you
1214
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
listening that believe, I'm not
going to discredit that.
1215
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,560
He worked for Santa Claus.
I I worked for Santa Claus that
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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,200
day and I have an epic Santa
suit.
1217
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,840
So I was giving out gifts and
legit these homeless kids would
1218
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,760
come up with nothing.
They have nothing.
1219
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,160
And and for me to hand them a
gift, just that was it, man.
1220
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,120
Like their their month was made
because they they weren't going
1221
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,600
to get shit.
And you know that because when
1222
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,280
you're homeless, your parents
aren't going to fucking be able
1223
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,880
to, you know, help you in any
way.
1224
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,040
And Santa can't find you.
If you're homeless, you got to
1225
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,960
have an address.
See what I did there?
1226
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:52,720
So it was really cool to be able
to do that and and be anonymous
1227
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,680
because my Santa mask is legit.
You can't tell there's a human
1228
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,040
behind it.
Zagoni Studios in in Illinois,
1229
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Chicago, IL.
This guy's Zagoni makes the
1230
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,440
greatest mask.
You've seen him.
1231
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,760
My my masks that I wear.
Oh yeah.
1232
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,040
Fucking lights out, man.
The guy's fantastic.
1233
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,440
He's a Craftsman, he says.
Chicago's Zagoni.
1234
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,320
Zagoni is ZAGONE.
Look them up, Google.
1235
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,520
We rock here in Illinois, man.
Really nice guy to eat because I
1236
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,400
had them do a live on location.
Yeah.
1237
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,920
Oh yeah.
Quality musician oh.
1238
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,680
Yeah, I mean everything.
You know, Illinois itself is
1239
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,400
kind of fucked up on on on a
whole, but yeah.
1240
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,800
Yeah, well, politicians are
fucked up the.
1241
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,480
People, right.
Any state, yeah, any state that,
1242
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,960
that that has Robin Zander out
of it.
1243
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,840
You know you can't go wrong, you
know.
1244
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,040
Or your Speedway.
I sold.
1245
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
I sold the high.
I sold the penthouse condo to
1246
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,480
right.
I sold a penthouse condo.
1247
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,480
A guy named Paul, I'm not going
to drop his last name 'cause I
1248
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,520
don't you know he actually grew
up with Cheap Trick.
1249
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Like he was that all the yeah,
he was at their college parties
1250
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,160
and shit like one of them.
I think Rick Nielsen, he said
1251
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,960
lived above him and their
duplex.
1252
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:03,840
They lived in the fourplex.
So he heard everything like like
1253
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,840
legitimately and and when they
did the Japan thing the the live
1254
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,400
in Budokan before that they were
nothing and then all of a sudden
1255
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,920
that hit and boom and so it was
cool talking to him because he
1256
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,080
legit had had first hand.
Yeah they had but he had first
1257
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,280
hand account stories of them up
to that point in their life that
1258
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,160
you don't get unless you know
them.
1259
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,560
You know, it's like our
development deal and shit.
1260
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,640
If we would have pursued that
and you know what I mean?
1261
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,320
And then all of a sudden, you
know, the Mason jar would, you
1262
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,560
know, have history of us being
there before we were anything.
1263
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,840
And then you know, we would have
exploded onto the scene because
1264
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,960
we just would have, because we
don't fuck around.
1265
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,560
This is kind of cool that Paul
has all that intimate knowledge
1266
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,680
and details and and and
friendships and shit with with
1267
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,680
with the band, with with Cheap
Trick, because I mean what a
1268
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,240
fucking band they are.
And we got to stop because we'll
1269
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,760
go on for another hour.
Fantastic.
1270
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,960
That's like my dad, so he.
Used to see so with that he.
1271
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,240
Used to see REO Speedwagon.
You know, great.
1272
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,840
Talk with you.
Yeah.
1273
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:21,040
Sock OPS.
Great. 1950 sock OPS.
1274
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,080
All right, let's.
I like the.
1275
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,120
Thumbs up.
All right, everybody be kind to
1276
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,479
each other as.
Always.
1277
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,200
And then Mike Michaels.
Chris Dunham Until next week,
1278
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,439
Peace, my brother.
Until next week, use.
1279
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:55,680
Well, my friend
the.
1280
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:25,720
None.