#7 - Facebook page and more about US!!!!

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All right there, and we're live.
We're live.

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Hey.
Hello there, ladies and

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gentlemen.
Hello there, ladies and

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gentlemen.
Are you ready to rock?

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You know who that is?
That's a cheap trick.

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I love Tube Trick.
One of my favorite bands of all

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time.
When I was a young little lad.

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When I was eating a little lad.
What is?

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This number 7.
Cheap Trick.

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This is the Chris and Mike Show.
It's episode number whenever.

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I don't really know.
I don't keep track.

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That's your job, Mike.
I think it's episode.

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I'm just the guy in a tuxedo.
I'm just a guy in a tuxedo.

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Tuxedo Tuxedo episode 7.
The Lucky Number 7.

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Lucky #7.
So are you Seinfeld fan?

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Oh man, like obsessively saying.
Yeah, obsessively.

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OK, so you remember the episode
777?

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George wanted to name his kids
Seven, and then that other

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people fucking stole his
Thunder, man.

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Yes.
Like, what the fuck?

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It was horrible.
Edit Details it's a so we have a

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Facebook aged out ladies and
gentlemen facebook.com/chris and

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Mike show the Chris and Mike
Show Show So we broadcast the

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United States of America and.
Apparently, the world.

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City the United States of
America, right?

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So I did solve the Japanese
viewership listenership

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question.
That was my 22 year old Marine

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hurrah.
Shout out to Jake.

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Thank you, You listen to it.
Awesome.

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And in in in true fashion of a
22 year old, he's like, yeah, I

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listen to it.
I don't know what you think.

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Yeah, it's cool.
All right, all right.

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We appreciate you giving us a
heads up.

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He's.
Coming home tomorrow, right?

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He's coming home tomorrow so
we're going to just go ahead and

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throw him on the show.
That's awesome.

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We would love to have Jake on
the show.

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I thought so.
He doesn't know that yet.

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Does not know that yet, but.
Well, tell him.

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I think it's awesome.
Singer and guitar player.

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United States Marine.
So what I'm doing right now in

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our United States Marine, So
what I'm doing right now for all

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you listeners that just wipe
myself in the face with my

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microphone.
I am filling out the stuff, the

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stuff, the nuts and bolts, the
the the things that people want

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tangibles on our Facebook page,
which is now has four likes and

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five followers.
Awesome.

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So it's the company.
The company's rock'n'roll.

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The position is lead singer and
guitar player.

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Because right now you're below
my screen.

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You're not on my screen, you're
below it.

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I'll take a picture so you can
see what I'm talking about.

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I'm trying to get the thumbs up
to come up and it's not one

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moment cooperate.
Well, go this way.

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Go this way.
OK, so I'm taking a picture

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behind the scenes and then I'm
going to post it.

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Guess I'm going to post it Mike
all.

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Right.
On the Facebook page.

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You know why?
Because you can't say why.

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Why?
No, you were supposed to say

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why?
I did say why.

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Let's try it again.
I'm going to post it on the

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Facebook page, Mike, because we
have a Facebook page now.

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It's the Chris and Mike Show.
Well, because you you've been.

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You've been, you've been riding
me forever to fucking create a

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Facebook page.
So here it is.

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Well, we need and I had this.
Everyone can gather together,

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right?
Absolutely.

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My friends have been gathering
on my page.

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The box and go to go to.
And your friends have been

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gathering on your page and now
they can all commingle at the

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Chris and Mike Show on
facebook.com.

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Commingling, commingling.
So I'm on The Chris and Mike

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Show.
I'm on the Chris and Mike Show

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on my phone now.
Awesome.

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So I'm going to oh, what the
fuck was that?

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What?
Where's my settings?

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Let's go to Let's go to
settings, shall we, Clarice?

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You've always.
Got to go to settings.

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I'm in an odd mood today, Mike.
I'm just letting you know.

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That's all right.
I'm in an odd, odd mood.

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We've had many of these
conversations.

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Where?
Oh where?

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There it is, there it is setting
dark mode.

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You know why?
Because you have to be in dark

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mode.
I'm always I'll.

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Tell you why you got to be in
dark mode.

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It's easier on the.
Because it looks so much better

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in dark mode, like they should
just they should just get rid of

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the white mode and.
Make it the dark mode.

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Dark mode should be the
standard.

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Absolutely it does.
Dark mode, Dark mode.

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So here, whoops, OK, I got it.
Public.

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We're going public.
So behind the scenes, our first

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behind the scenes picture photo.
Behind the scenes photo.

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So I don't want to call to
action buttons.

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Stupid thing.
City, town.

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It's not going to give us what,
what's what's.

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Let's call it Pontiac, MI.
Oh no, you don't live in

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Michigan.
You live in Illinois.

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I do that all the time.
I'd rather be based on.

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Some more guys, yeah.
But you know, roots, man, Roots

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increase your reach.
I don't want to boost that.

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Not now.
I'm waiting for you.

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I'm waiting for you to find the
Easter egg.

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Sorry the.
The Easter.

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Egg waiting for you to find the
Easter Egg.

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Oh, guitar guy.
Guitar guy.

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I see that that TRGUY.
That's one.

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There's another big one that you
haven't commented on yet, and

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someday you will.
Is it the the well, you're kind

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of blurry now, you know, because
of the stuff.

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Is it the Is it the eagle shirt?
The eagle?

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No, I'll know when you've went
don't tell.

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Don't tell me, OK.
OK.

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I will give a shout out to my
buddy Keith because I told him

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about my Internet woes and after
I got it fixed he said I'll be

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curious to hear if that delay
clears up or not so to let Keith

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know.
It actually cleared up quite a

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bit, so it makes it a lot easier
to converse when he doesn't have

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to wait 6 seconds to hear what I
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Yes, it does, because that was
actually right when you said it,

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it ended.
That's all.

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So we played with bands.
Marshall Tucker Band.

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Tony McAlpine?
Who else?

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Well, I put that list.
Hold on a second.

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OK, because I'm I'm filling out
our our description, you know.

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Every time I get asked this
question, I totally draw a

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blank.
I was with two friends of mine

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on a road trip and the guy's
wife asked me, So what big bands

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did you open up for?
And I said the Marshall Tucker

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Band because that was the first
band we opened up for and that

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was it.
I was like go to the Spotify

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page because I wrote a nice
little bio there, so.

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I got Marshall Tucker, man,
trying to make Alkaline Enough's

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enough sacred.
Reich sacred Reich Sevendust.

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That just blows my mind.
We played with Sevendust, the

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shit that I don't.
Remember man at The Big Fish Pub

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in Tempe, AZ?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
Before anybody even knew who

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they were, they had one song
that KUPD was playing in

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rotation because they knew
somebody that worked at KUPD and

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they knew the guy that owned the
Big Fish Pub.

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So that's how they got the gig
there, and they were way too

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good for that small place.
Yeah, we kicked their ass.

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I'm sure we.
Did we stole the show?

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I'm sure we.
Always stole the show.

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I will admit we always stole the
show and anybody that knows me

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knows I don't brag much.
So we did go up there to kick

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ass and take no prisoners.
So that's I thought that was the

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objective.
Right.

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I'm here to chew bubble gum and
kick some ass, and I'm all out

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of bubble gum, man.
Rowdy, Roddy.

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Piper.
Absolutely.

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So, so, yeah, so I, I did some
details, I did some details,

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right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't do hours price.
We don't have a price range.

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We're cheap.
Yeah, we're not going to charge

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for this.
Diversity Diversity info.

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What diversity info?
We would however like to qualify

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for advertisement so the more
clicks and likes and shares and.

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I'm going to, I'm going to,
yeah, I'm going to figure that

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part of it out for sure.
Price range is what could say,

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moderate.
We don't want to sell ourselves

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short.
Our Austria listener has not

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come out of the woodwork yet.
They must be shy.

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Or maybe they're sharing with
their friends.

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And to that I say kudos.
But if you're the one person

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that's listening to all these
shows and you would like to come

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on and tell us how you found us
and how you have reacted to the

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show, Positive, negative,
whatever, we'd love to have you

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on.
I just drop a comment on the

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actual Spotify with your
Facebook something.

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Go to our Facebook page.
Leave us a message how to get.

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Our Facebook page which is.
The Chris and Mike Show.

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Chris and Mike Show on Facebook,
Don't You know?

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So Michael J Michaels, I, I, I,
I stumbled on.

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Stumbled upon YouTube the other
day.

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Oh, happy anniversary, Lucy.
Oh, they would have celebrated

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37th anniversary.
Oh, I think he died or

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something.
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Rest in peace.
Oh, wait, maybe not.

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I don't know.
Lucy's cool.

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Lucy's a a a friend that I met
from.

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This is from Tom, my lender.
He wants me to connect with this

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guy Tom.
I'm currently doing a podcast.

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I cannot connect with anybody at
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But hi Tom, see Tom shout out I
just.

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Told that to Tom right there.
Hopefully, Tom will become a

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listener.
Tom should be a listener, you

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know?
If he's not, what the?

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You're missing out, man.
They are missing out.

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Where's the picture I posted on
our page?

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Man, I posted the behind the
scenes photo.

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Where'd it go?
Where'd it go?

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Did I post on my regular page?
Because that would be stupid.

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Nope, it's not there.
Where is it?

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Where or where is it?
You're definitely more Facebook.

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Saving So anyway I was I anyways
I was I was on the YouTube OK

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and Brian Brian the head who is
he from is that from tool Brian.

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Head.
What was the last name again?

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Or.
Whatever just just Brian Head

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it's it goes by Brian Head was
that is that tool.

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No, he's a corn guitar player.
I.

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Believe corn.
Corn.

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OK, so.
Didn't you go see them in

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concert with us?
Probably.

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Yeah, they opened up for
Metallica.

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Oh, let's see.
I thought you and Nikki went to

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that show.
Maybe.

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What?
What are you doing?

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I don't want to create an event
man.

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Why does it want me to create an
event?

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Stay on page?
I don't want to create event.

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I just wanted to put the picture
up.

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Leave page.
Just fucking Facebook sometimes

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man.
Just let me post the picture.

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Why do you see so difficult so?
Ladies and gentlemen.

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Yeah.
You are not the only people out

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there that have trouble with
Facebook, even a trained

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professional.
Well, I just, it's it's

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frustrated, right, right.
Trained professional.

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I went to face.
I went to Facebook school.

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Well, you know, there's a lot of
people out there that are like.

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Well.
At least I'm not the only one

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that has problems getting shit
on Facebook, because I'm one of

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them myself.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's what it

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was.
So Brian Head Welch he became,

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he found, he found Christ,
right?

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Yes, I remember the story.
He found the Jesus, the baby,

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the oh, can you hear that?
What?

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Could you?
Could you?

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I could hear it in my
headphones.

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You couldn't hear it, could you?
No, I we tried that last week,

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it doesn't work.
Right.

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So on YouTube OK if you go to
YouTube and and and type in holy

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name it's or just type in Brian
Head Welch but it's it's it's

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pretty cool I it's it's holy
name dash Fall on your knees I

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think the band's name I think
his new band's name is Holy Name

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and and the song is called Fall
on Your Knees.

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It's it's it's pretty cool man.
Like it's it's I'm like, you

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know, I like the vibe of it.
Like I can hear it right now,

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but you can't hear it.
And I didn't know enough about

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my voice not to be super loud,
even though I could be really

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loud because, you know, I'm
listening to the song and it's

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like rocking, man.
And but it's Oh yeah.

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That's a guy who's been in the
studio a lot.

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You have to go so, so all of you
listeners go to YouTube and type

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in Brian Head Welch and or just
the name, holy name because I

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believe that's his new band.
But I dig it.

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It's kind of it's a cool little.
It's a cool vibe.

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With it's a yeah, it's a cool
vibe for sure.

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I didn't know he had a new band
I thought he was back with.

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I didn't either, man it it it
suggested it to me.

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I went on there for something.
I found this band, Nikki and I

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went to Vegas for her birthday.
So YouTube, YouTube has this has

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this thing where they suggest
stuff.

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So the other band that they
suggested to me, which I've been

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listening to today, what was it?
Broken.

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Not Broken Wings.
What do we The way I found it

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ironically enough the way I
found this band which is just

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just a trip down the the the
Rabbit hole.

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I was.
I was looking for Alter Bridge.

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One of my favorite songs from
Alter Bridge is is the End is

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near for the end is here.
Well really Broken View podcast.

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I went to Broken View band, man.
That was fucking weird.

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So there's this.
There's this part in that song.

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The end is here that Tremonti
hits this harmonic on his

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guitar.
It's it's on the recorded studio

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version.
It's like 4 minutes, 26 seconds

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on.
It's just it's the fucking

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coolest thing, man.
Like like I like it's.

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The harmonic last that long?
Fuck, yeah.

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No.
No, no, no.

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That's the point in the song
where he hits it.

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Oh, OK.
I got.

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I was like, wow, that's a that
would be like came from

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Metallica, You know, that's a
long harmonic hold.

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Right, right, right, right.
No, it's just it's it's when he

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hits it.
So the so the band that I found

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and looking for that is a band
called The Broken View, which is

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like they're a rock band,
really, really good.

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Like, so amazed that I've never
heard of them.

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It's just, it's just, it's just
fumbling on Facebook or not

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Facebook on YouTube and finding
it.

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It's their.
Their deluxe version of the of

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the album I got was called On
The Mend and the band's called

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The Broken View, and it was
released in 2022.

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I've been listening to it all
day.

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There's not a bad song on there.
You know not and you know me.

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Like, I'll check them out, man.
I'm always looking for new

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music.
I get in my my thing is the

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lyrics you know and the songs
and the substance and that that

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just I was like holy shit that's
that's fucking right on man.

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They they are for sure you know
lighting up so you might you're

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probably wondering why I'm so
bright in here today aren't you

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Mike you've been thinking wow,
Chris is so bright in here

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today.
Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.

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So here's another little we're
going to do another little,

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little just candidate.
So here, here's half of the

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studio, because we're doing this
in two separate places.

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One's in Arizona, one is in
Pontiac, IL.

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There's.
One the middle of a cornfield

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on.
Screen.

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Or there's the other thing, the
middle of the cornfield, the

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children of the corn.
And I'm totally breaking the

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faux pas of all you know,
performers by turning my back.

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To the camera.
Your microphone is on your

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chair, brother.
I I felt it.

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I felt the microphone on my
chair.

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Mike.
Good looking out, man.

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I got your back, buddy.
Literally because it was on your

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back.
You got my back.

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I remember when when I used to
come up to you on when I used to

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come up to you on stage and your
backwards to me.

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And then I would just, I would
fall backwards and lean into

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you.
You never let me fall.

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No, like.
Ever.

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We just, we just ended up going
back-to-back with the lean and

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I'd be singing and you'd be
jamming on the guitar.

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You don't let a brother fall
down, man you.

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Never let me fall.
I well, thank you for that.

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Well, thank you for that.
We were.

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We were literally brothers, man.
We might not have been blood,

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but we were definitely brothers.
I agree with that.

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On a On a level that's just
fucking Facebook.

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Unexplainable to most people you
know.

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Different.
It takes a, it takes a certain

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kind of attitude to want to get
up there and play in front of

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people to begin with.
So everybody has to be on the

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same wavelength.
I just read, actually.

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Speaking of that, our.
First story, doing this in two

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separate places.
One's in Arizona, one is in

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Pontiac, IL.
What's that one?

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You're playing through the
Where'd you?

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Go screen.
Or there's the other thing.

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You're playing through the
headphones.

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I was playing this through that.
Weird.

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People are going to be like,
what the fuck was this show

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about, man?
Chris was all over the place.

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I didn't take my medicine today.
I'm sure it will be humorous.

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People like you or, you know,
weird little stuff.

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We got to provide humor for the
general public.

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They're going crazy out there.
Daily grind.

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You know, daily.
Grind living in the metal

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coffins going down the freeway.
Let's hear it for the dead

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presidents ladies and gentlemen
who they robbed banks in in

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Southern California for many,
many years until he jumped out

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of an airplane and some of them
died.

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Roach was shaking and losing his
his vision and and and that's

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when Johnny told him.
You're losing all your blood,

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Roach.
You're going to be dead soon.

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Name the movie.
Actually, I I messed that line

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up.
That's because all the blood is

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rushing from your body, Roach.
You're going to be dead soon.

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You got me, man.
I should know.

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Really, Johnny Utah?
Oh, maybe you really got me.

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Point break, man.
Oh yeah, point.

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Break, Point, Break.
I was like Johnny Utah.

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Why is that name so?
Clean after Brody jumps out.

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100% I'm with you now.
And and and.

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I was thinking the I was
thinking you were saying your

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name of the movie was Johnny
Utah.

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Nope.
Nope.

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Nope.
Nope, Nope, Nope.

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We are now up to 13 followers.
Wow.

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Four likes, only four likes with
a 13 followers.

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We need to get those other
followers to like us.

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What is the difference?
I don't understand more.

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A follower is you're following
us.

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Like like I invited people to
come follow us and they're now

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following us, so they clicked on
it.

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So when something pop populates,
when we do something clever or

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not so clever it will populate
to the world and people will see

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that that oh we got to we got to
just sparse this.

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People will see that something
new popped up.

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So squirrel one of my friends
and legit friend on the Facebook

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land.
This is this is this is bullshit

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ladies and gentlemen.
OK so stop buying into this

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nonsense.
Hello.

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It's official.
Signed at 12:53.

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It even came on TV.
Don't forget the new Facebook

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rule starts tomorrow.
A AKAKA new name Meta.

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Hello boys and girls, we've been
named.

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Facebook's been named Meta for
like over a year now.

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Long time they're going to use
your photos.

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You think you post something.
It's public.

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If you don't want your photos
shared and copied and downloaded

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and screenshot, put them on the.
Internet.

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Don't share them right.
Mango.

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This person is not giving right?
This person is giving Facebook

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not giving Facebook any
permission, blah blah blah blah

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blah blah blah.
So let me explain to you, boys

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and girls that don't know, if
you're meta verified, you have

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less chances of of being hacked.
OK, so my my main page is meta

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verified.
My Instagram page is meta

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verified.
Why?

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Because I don't want to get
hacked anymore.

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Because once you're meta
verified, you have this little

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well, that's YouTube.
I'm sorry, once you I was going

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to my main page once you once
you get meta verified, which is

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like 12 bucks a month, but it's
worth it because you can't get

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hacked.
You have this little blue dot

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next to your name.
So the only way Facebook will

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charge you anything at all, the
only way is if you meta verify.

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If you don't meta verify, it's
free.

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Correct.
So you, you, you choose to be

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verified, so you're less likely
to be hacked because they have

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your driver's license, they have
your face, they completely lock

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in and make sure that it's you
and you alone that's that's on

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your page.
When they try to get hacked,

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they thwart it, thwart it.
That's the benefit of being

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verified.
Now if you're not verified, it's

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fair game.
And the reason why I know this

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is Instagram a few years ago got
hacked.

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And in doing so I was able to
save my personal Instagram

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because I had my mug on it and
so I do the facial recognition

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and I was cool.
The catch is I had caricatures

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kind of like our logo on the
Chris and Mike Show on Facebook.

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Love it.
And my character of of of Dean

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and I on the Good News Arizona
account couldn't be recognized

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as real.
So therefore I have.

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I've lost control of the Good
News Arizona on Instagram and

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and unfortunately never been
able to get back.

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So kids you don't want to get
fucked with.

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Verify.
You want to get fucked with.

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Don't verify.
That's been a public service

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announcement by your friends.
Truly Chris and Chris Dunham

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from The Chris and Mike Show,
AKA Mike's Down and I'm up here

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and you know All rights,
reserved, blah blah blah blah

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blah blah blah blah blah.
That might be our first public

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service announcement slash
advertisement.

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Our first plug.
Our first plug.

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Our first shameless plug.
It's a shameless plug.

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It's a shameless book.
Nobody's giving us a nickel yet.

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We've laid out hundreds of
dollars.

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Hundreds of dollars.
Dollars.

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00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,840
So my buddy Todd, you remember
Todd, Big Todd, Todd Smith?

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We talked about him.
They came to the show.

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You know he's come.
Yeah, Nemesis.

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So he's in the hospital.
He had a a hernia removed, so he

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just texted me.
He's got discharged now an hour

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and a half ago.
He laid down to sleep and had a

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sudden onset of chest tightness,
shortness of breath.

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Oh no, he's breaking a squeaking
sound.

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He called the nurse.
Good move, she.

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Came with three nurses and a
doctor.

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His O TS oxygen stats dropped.
Oh no.

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Waiting for lab results.
Determine what's up.

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They're keeping him in his room.
You know?

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Give him IDIV and you know it.
It freaked out.

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So I I I said I said a bad word,
but I won't.

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I said a bad phrase, but I'm not
going to say it on.

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It's a little extreme.
I'll show you right right there.

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That's what I said to him in my
text back.

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I can't see that far 'cause I
don't have my glasses on.

457
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Yeah, well, that's OK, you know,
It's the it's the thought that

458
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,400
counts.
So anyway, when I have a big

459
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,120
shout out for my buddy Todd and
and everybody have a little

460
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,400
little baby Jesus love prayer,
you know, just, you know,

461
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,160
'cause, you know, I've known him
since I was 15.

462
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,520
So it's kind of like one of
those lifelong friends, you

463
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,240
know?
I always say that I'm sending

464
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,920
good energy.
That, you know, out in the

465
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680
universe, good energy gets.
To them, Yeah, absolutely.

466
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,040
Yeah, yeah.
Positive vibes.

467
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,680
Private vibes, man.
Absolutely positive vibes.

468
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Positive vibes, I said.
Private positive vibes.

469
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Private positive vibes to time.
To Todd, AKA Jake Blues, the

470
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Blues Brothers.
Because I had a blue car in high

471
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,120
school and I used to pick him up
and and he was this big

472
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,920
offensive lineman and and I'm
just you.

473
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Know he's a big dude.
I.

474
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Don't know, maybe 5-10 hundred
30 lbs Soaking wet.

475
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
So that was the yin and Yang of
Jake and Elwood Blues from

476
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Saturday Live.
Yes.

477
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,320
So there you go.
That's how it all started.

478
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,600
My first actual live performance
ever, aside from 4th grade being

479
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760
in in, in.
I don't know what the fuck the

480
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280
show was called, but I would
played a guy named John Smith.

481
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,400
But after that 'cause you oh
shit, you don't remember when

482
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,040
you're in 4th grade, but Todd
and I did mock rock, you know,

483
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,920
spring break, senior year.
We did that.

484
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Was awesome.
Everybody needs somebody to love

485
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,480
the Blues.
The Blues Brothers.

486
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,840
He has it too.
On VCR video I can Yeah, I can

487
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,240
still.
I can still remember.

488
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,920
Hello there.
No, that was a cheap trick.

489
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600
We're so glad to see so many of
you lovely people here tonight.

490
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,520
We especially like to welcome
all the representatives, if they

491
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800
don't always of Illinois law
enforcement community who have

492
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,520
chosen to join us here in the
Hotel Palace ballroom.

493
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,960
At this time, we do sincerely
hope you all enjoy the show.

494
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,480
And Please remember people and
more.

495
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,640
No matter what you do, live,
strive and survive, there are

496
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,000
still some things that make us
all the same.

497
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,720
You, me, them, everybody,
everybody, everybody home.

498
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:06,080
Need somebody home.
Everybody need somebody love

499
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,840
someone to love, someone to
love.

500
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,200
Some of the kids, some of the
kids, you know, it's just that

501
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,240
kind of thing, man.
That was awesome, dude.

502
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,640
Thank you.
I try, I try, I try, I try.

503
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Just gave you a shout out.
I don't.

504
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,200
I can't figure out how you can
remember all those lyrics.

505
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000
Probably the same way that
people ask me how I can remember

506
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,440
all the music that I know.
I don't know.

507
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,360
It just it just happened.
Yeah, 'cause I remember

508
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,000
learning.
I remember learning that in Mr.

509
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,560
Plummer's biology class, where I
was his teacher's assistant and

510
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,160
so I didn't do shit.
And you know, Mr. Plummer's

511
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440
offended on Facebook, so we'll
get him to follow us.

512
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,520
But I legit was in in my little
backroom and I just, I was

513
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,200
reading the lyrics and and
melody in my head and kind of

514
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,640
singing under my breath, you
know?

515
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,920
And then sure, shit, you know,
we went out there and rocked it

516
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,480
out, man.
Rocked it out.

517
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960
So I guess that's a good segue
to a question that I get.

518
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,800
I guess I got What made you want
to be a performer or slash be in

519
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,440
a band?
Or did you want to do one more

520
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,560
than the other?
Did you want to be an actor, a

521
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,480
stage actor, a singer in a rock
band?

522
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,440
What was your actual first
dream?

523
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:40,040
I'm going to say that I, I, I,
as far back as I can remember, I

524
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:47,320
wanted to be a writer.
So when I went to college,

525
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,480
right, when I went to college
and went and was in journalism,

526
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560
I won an award, you know, and
I'm like, oh, I got a

527
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,600
scholarship or an internship,
not a scholarship.

528
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,760
And then I worked at the Mesa
Tribune and realized, well, it's

529
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640
working my ass off for 20 bucks,
Socks.

530
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,560
So, you know, I'm like, OK, I'm
like OK, I'm not going to be,

531
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280
I'm not going to be a writer
anymore.

532
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,960
You know, I going to do the next
best thing, right.

533
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080
The next high earning grossing
income that you can do is is

534
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,720
acting, you know, because nobody
wants to be an actor you know,

535
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,720
horrible professional.
So yeah, right.

536
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,560
So I I took that leap, that
direction, and and you know,

537
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:47,080
then somewhere along the lines I
realized that acting and writing

538
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,720
all can kind of come together
with music.

539
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,280
Not that I was faking anything
ever on stage, but it's it's the

540
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,080
concept that if regardless of
the day you're having, at least

541
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,560
with me, regardless of the day I
was having, the mood, whatever.

542
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Good day, good day, bad day,
shit day, horrible day,

543
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,080
wonderful day.
As soon as I stepped into the

544
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,280
venue, wherever we were going to
play, the mood just switched.

545
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,160
It was like a light switch that
was automatic, you know?

546
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,240
And then the reason why I've
never really been heavy in the

547
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,880
covers is because I can't own
those those words.

548
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760
I can't own the emotion that was
that was created from writing

549
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200
those songs, right?
I agree with you.

550
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,680
So even though I love lots and
lots, right?

551
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Yeah.
And that was, that's the thing.

552
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,360
So even from like vision, I've
talked about vision a couple

553
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
times and and the story behind
Vision was I kept having these

554
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:52,400
recurring dreams in my early 20s
that that were were scenes of

555
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,200
death for lack of better
explanation.

556
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,000
So I would see myself die.
One was it was I don't remember

557
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720
the the, the order of it
anymore.

558
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880
I'd have to I got to find the
box with all the lyrics in it

559
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,080
from Nemesis days.
But so 111 dream in this, in the

560
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,320
song vision was I was sitting in
a pool, like outside, like

561
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
nothing.
There's nothing on the horizon.

562
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
You're in this massive open
field and there's just a

563
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320
rectangular swimming pool.
And I'm sitting on the cool deck

564
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440
in a chair.
And as I look down at the pool,

565
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,960
this, this body just starts
approaching, you know, face down

566
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400
the steps.
So I I get off my chair and walk

567
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,840
down and and roll the body over
and realize holy shit, that's me

568
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,280
wake.
Up.

569
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,200
Until back then I was heavily
into lucid dreaming.

570
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
A friend of mine Eddie, Eddie
Ensenius.

571
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720
He was a guitarist.
I had in in Disturbed.

572
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,160
No bass player.
I'm sorry.

573
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,000
Bass player.
Disturbed.

574
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,440
He's he's gone off to do.
He's really cool guy.

575
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,200
He does all these weird fun
things with.

576
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,800
He's an extra movies he's been
in all the zombie lands and

577
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
walking death films or shows and
stuff.

578
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,280
That's an extra but so he gave
me, given me this book about

579
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,400
lucid dreaming for my birthday
one year.

580
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,560
So that kind of opened up that
part of my mind.

581
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Like this is really cool.
Like you can go into your dreams

582
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,000
and control them and and
manipulate them and and kind of

583
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,040
navigate your way in and out,
you know, and kind of alter

584
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,000
them.
And I, you know, people people

585
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,480
have done this for years.
So.

586
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Right.
So the vision started with that,

587
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960
that the, again, I don't know
the order, but there was a

588
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,320
swimming pool.
There's another one where I was

589
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
walking down down like a city
street or something, and and I

590
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,760
turned my face and looked into
this dark alley and there's

591
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,280
someone just being pummeled in
the alley.

592
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,440
So I ran into the alley and and
it was me, you know, basically

593
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920
being beaten to death.
So woke up, you know.

594
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,960
So then I would continue to tell
myself when I'd go to sleep at

595
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200
night, OK.
Dream dream this part and then

596
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680
and then dream that part and
then dream that part to where I

597
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240
eventually there was four or
five parts of this dream

598
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,280
chronological you know an alley
whatever the fuck I'm trying to

599
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,920
find what word it is.
The last the last segment in it

600
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,000
was I was walking.
Yeah, chronological last segment

601
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,880
of this dream.
When I finally kind of became at

602
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,160
peace with it, I was walking.
I would, I would walk past the

603
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800
death, like when I pulled when I
rolled the pool, the guy over in

604
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,200
the pool, instead of waking up,
I turned around and walked away.

605
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,600
And as I walked away, I kind of
faded out from that, this

606
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,880
swimming pool thing to the next
dream sequence and then to the

607
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,800
next dream sequence to the final
last dream sequence as I was

608
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,280
walking past.
Just like an endless row of

609
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:45,760
newspaper stands, you know?
And as I looked left down at

610
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
them, all the dates were the
same.

611
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,760
March 4th, 2000, which was my
30th birthday.

612
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,280
So it it just it that was the
whole premise like I'm going to

613
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640
die when I'm 30.
So I had that mindset from the

614
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,640
time I was early 20s, so I was
going to do everything that I

615
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,719
that I I I wanted to do up until
that point in my life because,

616
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,320
you know, I had all these dreams
that said I was going to die.

617
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,120
So that's kind of how being in a
band took.

618
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,560
It took the things that I loved
writing and acting and put them

619
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,960
together because I could still
write, I could still somewhat

620
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,280
act, because when I wrote the
lyrics to the songs, like

621
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,400
Vision, I felt that as I sang it
every night, regardless if it

622
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,239
was the first time or a
thousandth time, I sang it.

623
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,000
I felt it.
I felt the emotion.

624
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,920
I felt the connection to it.
So you know one of the reasons I

625
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,159
love right Well thank you.
So one of the reasons I love

626
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,840
Jeff Tate in in the you know
Queensrÿche before he turned

627
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,880
into an asshole was he owned
like Operation of Mindcrime.

628
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,360
He played that role.
He played Mickey and he just it

629
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
was it was obvious he was into
and he was transparent and he

630
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,160
was just like spot on with the
character that he wrote an

631
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:03,960
entire album around of.
So it to me enabled me to to use

632
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,840
the entire creative side of my
brain in an hour, you know, an

633
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,920
hour and a half hour long.
We we used to play, you know,

634
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,200
varying shows.
But I could, I could do that and

635
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,480
I could expel that energy.
And so the darkness that was in

636
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,120
me was was purged, you know, So
I didn't, I didn't damage my

637
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,760
psyche over the years like a lot
of people do when they don't

638
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,920
have an outlet.
So the short version of the long

639
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
winded answer No.
That's why we're here.

640
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,280
We got all the time in the
world, buddy.

641
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,920
This is our show.
Yeah is.

642
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Yeah, Yeah.
Is the is the is the writer of

643
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,840
me.
I always loved writing, and I

644
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,920
still do.
And then the acting.

645
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,600
I always loved acting.
Like when I was a kid, I was

646
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,240
sick all the time.
So I was always home alone.

647
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,040
And I can remember pretending
I've been a cowboy.

648
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,080
You know, riding the side of a
chair.

649
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,800
We had that and watching.
We've had these conversations.

650
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,760
Black and white.
Yeah.

651
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Yeah, yeah.
So it's just it's it's just that

652
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,800
thing.
It's like, I just, I think

653
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,240
that's why I transitioned so
well in the real estate because

654
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,080
there's still that element of of
marketing and being in front of

655
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,640
cameras with videos that I do
and and being in front of people

656
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960
and talking.
And you know, I don't.

657
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,160
It's never just boring.
And it's never the same, right?

658
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Which is, you know, cool.
And it's really not that much

659
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,920
different than being a front man
where you had to engage with the

660
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:35,680
audience and they were, and they
were engaged with you or you

661
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
were the one that was going to
train wreck the show.

662
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Because if you couldn't command
those people and grab their

663
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,080
attention something one way or
another, the three of us weren't

664
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,920
going to do it because that
wasn't our gig, right?

665
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,720
You know, so I wouldn't have
transitioned well into dealing

666
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,800
with the general public because,
you know, I wasn't used to

667
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,600
talking.
I think I make the joke all the

668
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,840
time.
When they asked how many

669
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,760
microphones we needed, all you
guys would be like 2.

670
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,600
What if I want to say something,
man, you know?

671
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Yep.
Mike's not saying.

672
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,400
Yep.
Yeah, Yep, You know, But yeah,

673
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,640
but that's the that's, you know.
So.

674
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,000
Before that sing, it was me and
Rick that sing.

675
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,360
Right, I did.
I did cat scratch fever to give

676
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880
you a break once in a while.
That was the only.

677
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,640
Song.
Oh, that's right.

678
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,520
That's right.
I remember that.

679
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Yep.
Yeah.

680
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,360
So before I forget, I've looked
at that photo before.

681
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200
We got the awesome new logo,
which is totally awesome.

682
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:40,160
I love it.
Yeah, that might be the very

683
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,360
first show we ever played at the
Mason jar.

684
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Because looking in the
background, that was my PV

685
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,520
amplifier that I had in the
trunk of my car when I drove

686
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,760
1800 miles from my parents
driveway to Metro Village

687
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,400
Apartments and I didn't play
which.

688
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Photo.
The one of you and I on stage at

689
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,040
The Jar, I think that's the very
first time we played at The Jar.

690
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,440
That T-shirt I'm wearing was
from a band out of Chicago

691
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,960
called Laceration, and I still
owe the dude 12 bucks for that

692
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,680
shirt and I apologize.
Yeah, yeah.

693
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,520
So put that up on the, on the,
on the page, on the Kristen Mike

694
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,040
show, just post it like a, you
know anything.

695
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Yeah, because anything we kind
of talk about, we have the, we

696
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,560
have a platform now to post that
stuff and.

697
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,840
You know, and I will take
advantage.

698
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Of that, that's what it is.
And that's that's what it is,

699
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,160
you know?
And that's The Chris and Mike

700
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Show on Facebook.
On Facebook.

701
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,320
Yes, please do that.
Follow us.

702
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,720
That's that's what they need to
do, right.

703
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,080
They need to follow us, not just
like.

704
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,760
Follow us.
Yeah, become a right.

705
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,720
Become our friends.
Well, you can like and follow

706
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:02,440
us.
You can do both.

707
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,560
We we want to be liked.
We want to be followed.

708
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040
I enjoy being liked and
followed, just don't follow me

709
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,240
home if you could help it.
Yeah, not on a stalker level,

710
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,080
you know.
Don't do that.

711
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,360
You can follow me home, I know
you, but not just the general

712
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,800
public.
Right.

713
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,280
You know, you and I'll sit down
and just have another

714
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880
conversation, though.
Can't just do that with anybody.

715
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Yeah.
And.

716
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,640
You can't.
Another general question that

717
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,760
has been, yeah, back to the
picture.

718
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,120
So anyway, I didn't play too
many gigs with that picture, but

719
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,240
your mic stand is in that same
picture.

720
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,920
You'll probably have to lighten
it up.

721
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,880
You'll see it right away.
But if somebody will save the

722
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,800
photo to their desktop or
whatever, I don't care.

723
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,520
I'm not one of those freaks that
says don't use our stuff.

724
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Pull it down to your desktop and
lighten it up and you'll see

725
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,280
what that mic stand that we
talked about in an earlier

726
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,400
podcast looks like.
I noticed both those things that

727
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,080
just caught my attention the
other day.

728
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,720
I love that PVM.
I remember seeing that you have

729
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000
to send.
It to me again, yeah.

730
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640
I remember that, yeah.
I'll send it to you I.

731
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Don't know if I have it or not.
Hold on, ladies and gentlemen,

732
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,400
I'm going to.
Text.

733
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,200
Hell, you know.
Yeah.

734
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Or you put it on the page.
Are you on?

735
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Are you on your phone?
You can put it on the Facebook

736
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,280
page.
OK.

737
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,680
You can put it on the Chris and
Mike show.

738
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,080
I'll do that right now.
You just you're posting on it

739
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,480
just like a regular, a regular,
a regular page.

740
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,800
You know, you just you just
throw it out there as a as a

741
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,880
picture.
So this would be probably 1994

742
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,480
or five.
I'm guessing probably 5 because

743
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,960
we played a bunch of gigs before
we played at the Jar.

744
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,200
That was the elite place I.
Like I like playing.

745
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,720
I yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah.

746
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,680
I I loved playing at the Mason
Jar man.

747
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,920
We'll just we talked about this
before the the the photos on the

748
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480
wall.
Like like Franco had every

749
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,040
single band that ever played
their pictures on the wall.

750
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,760
I don't know if our if our
picture was ever on the wall.

751
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
I don't know if there was space
by then, but it was cool.

752
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960
To we were up there.
Holy shit, I'm standing.

753
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Well, Eddie, yeah.
OK, good.

754
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,400
I was.
I was like, holy shit, I'm

755
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440
standing where Eddie Vedder
stood and where, you know, Brett

756
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Michael stood and where Scott
Stapp stood and.

757
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,480
Maynard from Tool.
You know, just Kurt Cobain.

758
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,880
Yeah, just, I mean, you know,
right.

759
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Stone Temple Pilots Flotsam and
Jetsam Sacred Reich.

760
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,240
Right.
Yeah, Jason Newstead played tons

761
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,440
of shows.
Amount of of Yeah.

762
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,120
Newstead was Jason Rainey's
roommate before he got heat.

763
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,920
Jason Rainey was there when you
said got the call to be in

764
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,800
Metallica, He told Scott.
And I, I think he told all of us

765
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680
that story that night.
Yeah.

766
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,960
But yeah, that that was totally
cool.

767
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,360
He's like, yeah, I was sitting
there.

768
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,040
That's cool.
You know?

769
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,760
He was on the couch, the phone
rang and he said, hey man, you

770
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,360
got the gig.
Yeah, that's awesome.

771
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,880
So yeah, there he.
Posted on the Facebook page on

772
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,920
The Christian Mic.
I do believe I did.

773
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Did did you drop it on the
Christian mic?

774
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:24,360
OK, I don't see it.
Let me check.

775
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,000
I I don't see it.
For some reason Chris Dunham

776
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,080
likes our short our first story.
Not me, Chris Dunham I have.

777
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,400
I went online one day and found
all the Chris Dunham's I could

778
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,960
find and sent friend request to
them.

779
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,240
So I have all these Chris
Dunham.

780
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
I have these friends named Chris
Dunham, which is awesome because

781
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,920
when they post something, I'll
be like, hey me, what's going

782
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,400
on?
You know, wedding anniversary

783
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,000
shit.
Oh yeah, our marriage has been

784
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,120
great, you know, no complaints
from me.

785
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
And every now and then the wives
will be like, wait, what?

786
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200
What, What?
You know, it's funny.

787
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,640
And then I'll have people tag
the wrong Chris Dunham, because

788
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,000
you know the wrong Chris Dunham.
I shared it to my own page and

789
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,640
they.
Tagged me.

790
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:11,440
It's kind of funny.
So now how do I share it on our

791
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,920
page?
You just go you just you go to

792
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440
the page right and you have you
have where it says what's on

793
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,120
your mind live video, photo,
video or real and you're just

794
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:27,520
going to click photo and add
photo and then just you know say

795
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,000
circa 1994 at the Mason jar.
I think that would be would be

796
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:42,640
cool.
So what's weird on today's show

797
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,240
as I don't see a clock, usually
there's a clock.

798
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Oh, you don't have 1:00 today?
Uploading and recording.

799
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:55,680
I don't have a clock today.
Weird, weird wild stuff.

800
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,720
I have to lean in to see mine,
but it looks like there's a

801
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:06,960
four, there's a four.
OK, why did you did you

802
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:13,160
accomplish the the task at hand?
Let me see photo.

803
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,480
It's still not there.
No, but a bunch of people are

804
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,400
liking my photo on my page hold.
On, it's on your page, It's on

805
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,960
the Michael's page.
Yeah, why don't you grab it and

806
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,480
put it on there?
Because you seem to be more

807
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,640
technically savvy than yours
truly.

808
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600
I am not a Facebooker, ladies
and gentlemen, so don't think

809
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,280
that I'm being a snob or
anything.

810
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680
I will do the best I can with
the legions of fans that we hope

811
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:42,920
will crash our Facebook page.
That's why I've begged him to do

812
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,840
it, because he has a nice group
of followers.

813
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,520
He's used to doing all this kind
of stuff.

814
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,360
Legion of fans.
I did all the behind the scenes,

815
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,160
getting it to the Internet,
getting us a studio set up,

816
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,520
finding the right equipment.
That was my job.

817
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,200
Why?
Not you did.

818
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,200
And you did a good job too,
because now we have all the same

819
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,680
equipment.
Friends, friends.

820
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Where's my friends at, man?
You sound fantastic now that

821
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,640
you're closer to the microphone.
You know, I I tried to sound

822
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,040
fantastic.
Oh, there it is.

823
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,160
You put that there.
OK, now I know what you're

824
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,760
talking about.
Now I know what you're talking

825
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,960
about.
OK, now I That is the mic stand.

826
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,320
Fucking a dude.
See.

827
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,280
Right on.
Told you Stuck out like a sore

828
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,840
thumb.
I've only looked at that photo

829
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:39,040
about 9000 times in my life.
Stuck out like a sore thumb.

830
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,160
I'll put that.
I will put that on our page

831
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,360
right now.
The Kristen Mike Show.

832
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,680
There you go, buddy.
So boys and girls, this is what

833
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,080
we were talking about.
Come on.

834
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Now I'm going to have to go to
my page and say I did not mean

835
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,680
to post the same photo you've
seen 500 times since we started

836
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,720
the podcast.
It was supposed to go on.

837
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,280
Whatever, it's OK.
Everybody started liking it, so

838
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,960
thank you very much.
Appreciate it.

839
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,800
I missed those days.
On stage at the Mason.

840
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:24,040
Yep, Yep, I'm typing right now.
That's why I'm sly and silent.

841
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,920
Yeah, so once again, if you are
a fascinating Austria listener,

842
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,800
go to the Chris and Mike Show on
Facebook and drop us a line.

843
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,080
You don't have to come on the
podcast, just say, hey, I think

844
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520
it's totally cool that you found
us and that you keep listening.

845
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,320
So we'd love to give you a shout
out or something.

846
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,200
You're more than welcome on the
podcast unless you're shy.

847
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,040
I was shy too, but here I am.
Right.

848
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,880
I was very unsure if I was going
to be able to do this.

849
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,920
I just wanted to do it so you
dive in, you know, sink or swim.

850
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,000
You know what doesn't kill you?
Scares the fuck out of you.

851
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,240
Right.
And I don't like you.

852
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,200
I scared I changed it.
I changed it up.

853
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Here we are.
I changed it up.

854
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,120
So I'm hoping, hoping I tag the
right Neil Sands, because Neil

855
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Sands is the one that made it.
Which small world?

856
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Neil's.
Oh, it didn't let me.

857
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:33,240
It didn't let me tag him.
We played at Kevin, We played at

858
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:38,440
Your Place in Glendale for
years, rehearsed right after.

859
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:46,720
After we stopped playing at
Scott's Correct And we then.

860
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:53,920
Neil was a former drummer of
mine from one of the bands I was

861
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:08,840
in called Andalusian Dog, and he
was an art major at ASU and his

862
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,200
grandfather owned Sands
Chevrolet.

863
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,640
Which I remember a.
Car Dealership So Manistee

864
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Ranch, right?
Manistee Ranch which was 50 1st

865
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,240
Ave.
Northern I believe was was the

866
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,400
ranch that his family owned is
now subdivision.

867
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,720
Like all sub all ranches turned
into subdivisions.

868
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,120
But the last time I drove by
there the house was still

869
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,160
standing and the community's
called Manistee Ranch.

870
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:37,840
So I actually played in that
house in the basement during the

871
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,640
time in Andalusian dog which is
before Nemesis.

872
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,440
I believe that was before
Nemesis.

873
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,880
Yeah, it was it was cool.
It was a cool place to to jam.

874
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,920
And it was they had this we had
this thing we called the angry

875
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,640
chair like kid, you not, dude,
this.

876
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,720
It was a imagine, just a wooden
chair, right.

877
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:01,400
A normal wooden chair.
But replace the wood with with,

878
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,080
with antlers from Elks.
So we called it the angry chair

879
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,600
because the whole thing, when
you sat in it, you didn't get

880
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,360
stabbed at all.
But looking at it was like,

881
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,000
fuck, I'm not going to you know,
this is going to like destroy me

882
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000
if I get up the wrong way
because of all the antlers and

883
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,400
shit.
It was it was badass.

884
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160
It was truly coolest chairs
ever.

885
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,600
I'm wearing a Nemesis T-shirt in
that picture too.

886
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,080
Yes, you are.
On on on my chest, that says

887
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,800
nemesis right there.
Yeah, that's why I said we

888
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,360
played a bunch of gigs before we
ever played at The Jar.

889
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,160
We played at The Ballroom, we
played at a bunch of places in

890
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Mesa and Tempe.
I think that The Jar was

891
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,920
probably maybe a year, year and
a half before we actually got a

892
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,800
gig there because I kept going
down there and bugging those

893
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,280
guys.
That wasn't the easiest place to

894
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,840
get a gig at.
No, it was it was it was legit

895
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,400
one.
Of those, it was legit.

896
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,000
I buddied up with Jason and
yeah, gave him a demo.

897
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,240
You know, back then you had to
have a cassette demo.

898
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:17,120
We weren't even CDs at that
point, so he listened to it, he

899
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,160
liked it, and that's how we got
in there, so.

900
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,800
Yeah, it's kind of a drag.
You don't have any of those

901
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,840
laying around.
Well, that would be nice.

902
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200
They're laying around somewhere.
So, so on Instagram.

903
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120
On Instagram, yeah, on
Instagram.

904
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,480
You're not.
You're not on Instagram, are

905
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,400
you?
I have a personal Instagram

906
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,000
page.
Yeah, OK.

907
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:47,040
So, so Carrie chimed in on one
of my Instagram posts.

908
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,960
Carrie Baez.
And so I told her, yeah, so I

909
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,920
told her we're doing a podcast
and you find us in all the all

910
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,760
the all the places.
What is your Instagram page?

911
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,840
I apparently I'm not friends
with you there.

912
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,880
Chris, Chris.
Oh, hold on.

913
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,880
OK, I thought you were.
I'll type it in the chat box,

914
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,680
chat, it's it's Chris under
score, Dunham under score.

915
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:24,400
OK, I'm bad about being friends
with people that I'm friends

916
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:30,040
with in real life, you know?
Yeah.

917
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,320
You know, I tend to like to talk
to my actual friends.

918
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,920
I'm not one of these texters or
if I if you hold that kind of

919
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,280
level of friendship and my heart
and soul, I want to hear your

920
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,680
voice and talk to you.
And I'm not into the Too much

921
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
can be misinterpreted when
you're texting, you know?

922
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,280
Yeah.
And it's just not as personal.

923
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,400
I've known you since I was 21
years old.

924
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Twenty.
I might not have even been 21.

925
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Like, of course I want to talk
to you.

926
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Yeah, right.
Yeah.

927
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,240
So we have, we have 15
followers.

928
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,680
You need to reach 100 followers
to gain access to insights and

929
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,680
demographic data. 100 Got.
To figure out how to add you as

930
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,720
add we got to get to 100 list
followers in order to kind of

931
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:21,760
open up some of the really cool
plugins and shit.

932
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,200
But I'm trying to figure out how
to add how I add you because I

933
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,440
know I can add you, as you know,
an admin to it.

934
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
If it's not just it's not just
you know.

935
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,720
I just don't know how to do
that.

936
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,640
It's not.
It's just not working.

937
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,400
See.
So is there a platform where we

938
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,960
can we have options to go live.
So like right now you're having

939
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,920
a problem and if people were
listening, they may be able to

940
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,680
chime in and solve your problem
that they were watching live.

941
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,320
I know you don't want to do it
on Facebook.

942
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Is Twitch an option?
Right.

943
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:08,960
I've never heard.
I've heard of Twitch, but I

944
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,920
don't know what Twitch is.
Well, let me do some research.

945
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,640
I don't know how any see.
What I'm doing there?

946
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,760
See what I'm doing there?
I've just heard, man, I don't

947
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,320
know how it works there used to.
Be the only time I heard of it.

948
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,840
I was building.
I was building something.

949
00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:28,480
No.
Go ahead, go ahead.

950
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,400
No, go ahead.
No.

951
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,840
There used to be a platform
called Ustream and I'm I don't

952
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,280
think it exists anymore.
But Twitch is similar to

953
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Ustream, where you can just live
stream your content for free is

954
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,560
basically all they're doing is
just like we're using a studio

955
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,480
right now that's providing us a
platform to do a remote podcast,

956
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,840
they're providing you with a
platform to do a live podcast

957
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,400
for free.
I'll I'll look into how it works

958
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,800
and if it's worth it.
But I think if people knew that

959
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,000
we were on here Tuesday
afternoon, see they don't listen

960
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,720
to it till Sunday, Monday,
Tuesday, the next week we are

961
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,920
actually this is Tuesday
afternoon for everybody that's

962
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,760
listening if they knew we were
doing that.

963
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,840
It is too late afternoon.
They could log on and listen if

964
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,720
they so chose right?
We we just need to find a

965
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:27,560
platform that works for us, that
will work for everybody else is

966
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:36,360
what I'm getting at.
Yeah, Settings, Settings, Post

967
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,480
life event.
Go to the page Log on I did

968
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,160
that.
Click Settings at the top of my

969
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,920
page.
I did that.

970
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,440
So page.
Rolls in the left column.

971
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,640
I don't see page rolls in the
left column.

972
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,800
I just thought of a story that
relates to that photo as well.

973
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,880
If that's the first time that we
played at the Mason jar, I

974
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,840
actually had to track down
Franco to get our money at his

975
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,000
condo.
No, that's not surprising.

976
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,920
For everybody that is listening,
that would not know Franco,

977
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:22,960
which is everybody.
He was about 5 foot three and he

978
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:28,160
had kind of crazy long scraggly
hair and he was 150 million

979
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,160
percent Italian and he wore
clogs always.

980
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,520
The dude was just, Oh yeah, the
dude was just crazy.

981
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,960
But come to find out, he was
connected and I didn't know

982
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,360
that.
I just knew he owed us $200.

983
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:52,320
Yeah, Franco was very connected.
So here's 2122 year old little

984
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:58,720
Mike pounded on his door and a
dude about 66315 answered the

985
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,400
door.
What do you want?

986
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,280
I said I need to talk to Franco.
He owes my band $200.00 and he

987
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,320
just slammed the door.
So I stood there for, I don't

988
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,840
know, 1520 seconds and I was
just getting ready to turn

989
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,480
around and leave and the door
opens again and he says, OK, he

990
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,480
says he'll see you.
So I went in there and he says,

991
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,520
what band?
I said Nemesis, how much do I

992
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,160
owe you $200?
I apologize.

993
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,600
It'll never happen again.
So he gave me the $200.00 and I

994
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,960
walked out of there and I felt
like king shit, you know?

995
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,400
So we go to play the next gig
and I'm telling Maverick this

996
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,040
story.
Bouncer Maverick, you know, and

997
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,200
his guys got about as big around
as half dollars and he's like,

998
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,480
dude, don't ever go to his house
again asking for money.

999
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,120
He's like, I'm surprised you
didn't get the shit kicked out

1000
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,000
of you or get killed.
He's like, you know, Franco's

1001
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960
connected, right?
He's like this place is like a

1002
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,240
money laundering operation,
which is totally what the Mason.

1003
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,440
General Where Franco lived, man.
I asked.

1004
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:09,680
How did you know where Franco
lived?

1005
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,960
I asked Jason Rainey because
Jason worked for the Mason Jar.

1006
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,640
He was their permanent, you
know, front of House Sound Man.

1007
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,080
Right, right, right, right,
right.

1008
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,400
He told me where he lived and I
don't.

1009
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,000
That's awesome.
Who knows if I told him why?

1010
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,840
You know, I think maybe I just
say, hey, do you know where

1011
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Franco lives?
And that might have been the

1012
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,280
extent of the conversation.
Had I told him I was going down

1013
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,800
there to collect money, he might
have advised me otherwise, you

1014
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,920
know.
But.

1015
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,800
He was the one that I asked
because.

1016
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,160
When I told Maverick the story,
he flipped out.

1017
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,880
He was like, dude, don't ever do
that again.

1018
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,040
I can't believe you didn't get
the shit kicked out of your end.

1019
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,560
Up in a mine shaft out in the
middle of the desert, you know?

1020
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,840
That's all I asked.
Nicely so.

1021
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,320
Squirrel.
Yeah, squirrel, squirrel moment.

1022
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,640
When you go to your When you go
back to Facebook, you know how

1023
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,280
you get notifications and that
little thing on the bottom?

1024
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,200
Little notification thing like a
bell.

1025
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,640
You're going to have an
invitation to help manage said

1026
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
page.
I will help you the best I can

1027
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,400
brother.
Facebook.

1028
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Page of the.
Chris Night Show.

1029
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Well, it's just, it's you can
put stuff on reels, you can put

1030
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,360
stuff on stories.
Yeah, absolutely.

1031
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,000
Yeah, you can do all kinds of
fun.

1032
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Stuff So.
So now you know for everybody

1033
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,800
that.
Is a subscriber and a weekly

1034
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,640
listener.
I will be putting up little

1035
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,360
previews Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday.

1036
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Somewhere in there, I'll drop
little Easter eggs I like to

1037
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,800
call and you'll get to see
previews of the upcoming episode

1038
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,760
instead of having having to wait
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1039
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,360
Saturday, Sunday.
I know it's a pain.

1040
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:58,760
It's a pain for me too.
I know that's good.

1041
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,880
So since we have 16 followers,
but it won't let me look at all

1042
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:13,610
the followers, which is weird.
Well, oh, you know, we'll have

1043
00:59:13,610 --> 00:59:15,410
to play with it.
We'll just watch it grow.

1044
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:18,370
Yes, we are starting a
community.

1045
00:59:18,850 --> 00:59:23,330
Of wonderful, positive, like
minded individuals who like to

1046
00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:26,010
have a good time.
Everybody needs to get along.

1047
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:29,770
We're trying to lead.
By example, you don't see us.

1048
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:31,770
Fighting and arguing.
There's no need for all that.

1049
00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:33,610
If you disagree with us, that's
fine.

1050
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,360
People disagree with me all the
time.

1051
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,160
I'm 100% used to that because I
do not think like everybody else

1052
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,840
and I understand that and I try
and respect that of people.

1053
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,920
So we're we're open to opinions.
That's why we're here.

1054
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,080
It'll give us other things to
talk about.

1055
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,120
So we are.
Agreed.

1056
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,760
Yeah, life's too short to be a
Dick.

1057
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Yeah, well, and once again, if
you ever.

1058
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,920
Had to sit in a room with four
big egos who are trying to put a

1059
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,760
song together.
And everybody needs to remain

1060
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,880
calm because everybody thinks
they're the best.

1061
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,080
But you realize that you need
the other three people to do

1062
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,360
what you're trying to
accomplish.

1063
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,400
It puts everybody in check.
That is an exercise in humility.

1064
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,560
And we didn't have everybody
needs.

1065
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,960
Exactly.
Not to the level that.

1066
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,880
Jake did in the United States.
Marine Corps.

1067
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960
But we policed ourselves pretty
well, right?

1068
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Right.
Oh yeah.

1069
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,160
Well and the nice thing too is
we didn't.

1070
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,400
I mean we had we had egos
because you have to have an ego

1071
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,760
being a musician because you
you're going and you're putting

1072
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,800
something that that you put your
heart and soul into creating and

1073
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,400
standing in front of you know
five people or 5000 people

1074
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,200
depending on the night the show
and you're you're you're putting

1075
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,440
your soul out there.
Especially from from from my

1076
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,920
standpoint like like you
mentioned earlier like if they

1077
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,160
don't get through me they're not
going to get to you guys so

1078
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,520
they're not going to hear the
whole thing no pressure.

1079
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,880
So when you, when the.
Vulnerability that singers?

1080
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,440
Have that have to have and it
has to have an ego with it

1081
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,440
because if you don't, if you
don't own your craft and if you

1082
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,640
don't own your space and you
don't have that presence.

1083
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,640
Like I was told by an actor that
I I so respected that I had an

1084
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,200
amazing stage presence.
And at the time it didn't

1085
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,000
register to me what that meant,
'cause I was still in the

1086
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,640
beginning stages of acting and I
hadn't got into the the music

1087
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:33,040
part of it yet.
But then years later when when I

1088
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,800
heard that comment again and
then I was, I was wise enough to

1089
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,240
kind of circle back to that.
The the second time I heard it

1090
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,520
and asked what do you mean by
that?

1091
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,160
And how they explained it was,
you know you own the space when

1092
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,560
you're on the stage, it's like
you're you just you own it.

1093
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,240
You the ego's there because it
has to be there because of what

1094
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,840
you're doing and what you're
projecting.

1095
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,760
And it's I was like wow that's
that's fuck projecting is the

1096
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,880
right word.
So.

1097
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,320
I never you.
To the audience, I never.

1098
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Looked at us to the audience.
You look like you're bigger,

1099
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,320
you.
You are bigger than you are.

1100
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,840
And it's it's not visually
bigger.

1101
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,880
It's a feeling, you know, it's
like, wow, man, This guy, right?

1102
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,200
This guy.
Really.

1103
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,200
He's.
Trying to tell me something and

1104
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:25,200
I'm digging what he's doing and
or the flip side of that is if

1105
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,280
there's a we used to have long
intros to our music a lot before

1106
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,680
Chris came out or before he
would start singing, that's even

1107
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,680
more pressure.
So now if we got a good riff and

1108
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,560
a good groove going and the
whole crowd is into that music,

1109
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,240
now he has even more pressure
because everybody in that

1110
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,920
crowd's thinking this guy better
not fucking suck.

1111
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,240
If there's a minute and a half
intro.

1112
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,240
To a song, but it's truth,
that's.

1113
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,240
What everybody's thinking.
Because we just gave them time

1114
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,920
to get into the music, and now
you have to deliver even more so

1115
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,480
because they're into that, you
know, they're thinking, wow,

1116
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,040
man, this message better be good
and his voice better not suck.

1117
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,280
Yeah.
No, absolutely.

1118
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,920
And that's the that's the thing.
So I never, I never approached

1119
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,080
it.
I never thought that any of us

1120
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:24,280
had egos in the in the in the
context of of how we wrote songs

1121
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,760
and how we wrote music together
and how we how we, you know,

1122
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,080
unified ourselves as a unit of
four musicians, not towards each

1123
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:39,680
other backgrounds exactly.
So that to me is rare because

1124
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,920
I've been in, you know, enough
bands.

1125
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,360
Unfortunately, you know, it's so
rare it's the only time it's

1126
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,240
ever.
Happened for me, yeah.

1127
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,480
Yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah.

1128
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,280
See, me too.
I've never, I've never, I've

1129
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,880
never had that with any other
band aside from Nemesis.

1130
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,760
Like never.
And I think it was because we

1131
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,720
were so naive, because we were
so young, that we just we were

1132
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,640
so focused on creating really
cool music that that people kept

1133
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,960
coming back to listen to and
people kept enjoying that.

1134
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,760
We just, we never took it for
granted until it was no longer.

1135
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,320
Then it's like, fuck, that was
it.

1136
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,200
That was one of those.
Moments in our lifetime.

1137
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,160
That was like one of those, you
know, everybody has those

1138
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,240
moments in life where it's it's
it's this is the time of your

1139
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,600
life and you don't realize it
while you're living it.

1140
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,760
It's something you look back on
years later, realize, oh shit.

1141
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,920
That was one of those moments
that if you could get it back, I

1142
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,240
would get it back.
You know what I mean?

1143
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,040
It would never.
It would never have ended.

1144
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,000
It's funny to think that we
were.

1145
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,480
Smart enough to know that we.
Needed each other but.

1146
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,080
Not smart enough to protect it
at all costs, you know?

1147
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Agreed.
Agreed.

1148
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,440
Yeah, the.
The naive part came out in that

1149
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:11,840
one member of the.
Unit was not willing to wait.

1150
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,200
You know, I don't know if we, I
don't think we ever gave you

1151
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,760
that option.
And I don't know if you ever

1152
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,080
gave us that option, but that
should have been an option.

1153
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,360
You know, it's just to wait.
We could have wrote songs for

1154
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,880
six months, you know?
No, I Yeah.

1155
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,920
Yeah.
Scott and I could play for 10

1156
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,240
hours straight.
And never get bored.

1157
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Right.
And that's that thing looking

1158
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,200
back on it now, but that's
looking back on it now.

1159
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,800
You know what I mean?
And it's just because I didn't

1160
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,160
know some of the stuff that
we've talked about regarding the

1161
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,320
band at all because they just
didn't know it, which I think is

1162
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,120
a good thing because if I think
I would have, if I would have

1163
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,440
known that development deal was
in the works, I it may have

1164
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,680
changed how I approach things.
I would have tried instead of

1165
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,160
just going out there and doing
if that makes any sense.

1166
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,440
No, I know what you're saying.
You know, and I just verified

1167
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,040
that because you.
Know the one thing that got

1168
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,440
saved?
Is I have.

1169
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:11,600
A bag, a leather bag here full
of stuff from Nemesis, yeah.

1170
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,640
It looks like that show and tell
Time, Boys.

1171
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,640
And girls.
Yeah.

1172
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,160
And I forgot.
We used to.

1173
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,680
Do a monthly newsletter that we
mailed out to people with

1174
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,080
stamps, kids.
They're these things that you

1175
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,880
used to have to put on an
envelope and you had to drop it

1176
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,800
in a blue box.
It was monitored by the US

1177
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,800
Postal Service and every day a
guy would come around and he

1178
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,720
would pick it up out of there.
It was fascinating.

1179
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,200
And then it would go to all our
fans, and we had a lot of fans.

1180
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,720
So I don't know how we afforded
postage.

1181
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,160
How did we afford postage?
Because we didn't have shit,

1182
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:49,880
man.
We were broke.

1183
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,640
Those are stamps, kids.
Chris just showed you an example

1184
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,560
of stamps right here on the
podcast.

1185
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,400
And the irony?
The irony back.

1186
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,800
Then every now and then you'd
hear of a.

1187
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,120
Postal.
Worker going postal?

1188
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,960
You don't hear that anymore.
No, they must have.

1189
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,200
Lessened their working
conditions.

1190
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Maybe we could have a postman on
the process?

1191
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,200
Because I actually know a
postman he lives.

1192
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,960
Right around the corner from me,
I went to high school with him.

1193
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:21,440
They're done.
They're done so anyway in that.

1194
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,200
Newsletter postman, it said.
That.

1195
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,320
And I had forgotten this part.
So we played a gig and it might

1196
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,200
have been the last show that you
played with us or near the last

1197
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,840
show you played that night.
That guy was in the crowd.

1198
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,600
So he approached Scott and I I
think it was the last show you

1199
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,800
played, cuz I'm pretty sure that
there.

1200
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,440
Were bad feelings that?
Night and I think you bailed and

1201
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,280
this guy came up and talked to
us and he was there to see us

1202
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,720
specifically.
He didn't.

1203
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,880
He wasn't there before.
We I know, Hey dude.

1204
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,320
He wasn't there before any of
the other bands played and he

1205
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,720
didn't stick around.
He left right after he talked to

1206
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,320
Scott and I.
He gave us his card.

1207
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,080
He lived in Paradise Valley.
He says please come to my house.

1208
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,640
I'm building a studio.
I used to run sound for Queens

1209
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,359
Reich.
I work for Elektra Records or

1210
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,840
EMI.
I think Queens Reich was signed

1211
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,040
to at the time.
I can't.

1212
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:28,240
Anyway, he worked for that.
Label he was.

1213
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:34,600
Trying to get into producing.
He loved our whole package, you

1214
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,000
know?
I mean, we had, we had the look,

1215
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,120
we had the sound.
We had the.

1216
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,960
Presentation for, you know,
somehow our name got all the way

1217
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,120
to him and I.
I just verified it, you know.

1218
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:53,000
I didn't bring that story up.
I just read it so right.

1219
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,520
Well, and and I had forgotten he
was there to just see us.

1220
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,520
You know, oh.
Right on.

1221
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,720
No, go ahead with your thought.
Back then, everything was word

1222
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,840
of mouth.
Well, that's what I'm saying.

1223
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,240
Back then, everything was word
of mouth.

1224
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,680
It wasn't.
You didn't have the Internet.

1225
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,520
Really, I think.
No, the Internet was fucking

1226
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,640
useful.
That kind of back.

1227
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,319
Then.
But you didn't.

1228
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,640
Right, so everything was word of
mouth.

1229
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,040
So, you know, maybe the fact
that she shut up at Franco's

1230
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,279
house and knocked on his door,
he's like, well, fuck, this

1231
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:24,120
guy's got some, you know, balls
of a freaking, you know, giant,

1232
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,399
you know, But it had to be some
element of respect.

1233
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:31,080
This, this guy had No Fear and
came knocking on my door.

1234
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,080
Whether he knew who I was or not
is.

1235
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Irrelevant, the guys.
Yeah, in that same folder is a

1236
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,800
letter.
That I will take a picture of

1237
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,840
and put on the Chris and
mikeshow@facebook.com that was.

1238
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,840
Given to us.
You were there that night

1239
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,880
because I think we got that
letter that night and basically

1240
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:54,040
it says that the Mason Jar has
served as a venue for such

1241
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,680
notable national acts as
everybody that we've named at

1242
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,840
the beginning of the podcast.
And we would like we would be

1243
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:07,400
honored or something like that
if you would use something to

1244
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,720
the.
Effect of We could use the

1245
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,840
Mason.
Jar as a.

1246
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,120
What do you call it when you're
on somebody's resume?

1247
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,960
God.
Damn, I'm drawing a blank.

1248
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,440
You can.
Use me as a reference.

1249
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,960
Thank you.
Jeez, holy moly.

1250
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,880
Sorry people, my brain just
stopped working for about two

1251
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,600
seconds there.
So yeah, they basically said

1252
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,280
your band is more than welcome
to use the Mason Jar name as a A

1253
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,600
reference and they would vouch
for us as being a a band that

1254
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,480
could draw people in and make
money.

1255
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,560
So yeah, you're probably right.
That's probably where that guy

1256
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:51,360
got that information from.
Yeah, for sure.

1257
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,000
We've this is our longest show
to date, by the way.

1258
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,440
We've, I think we've been going
since about 2:30.

1259
01:10:56,440 --> 01:10:59,920
And it's 351.
Yeah, that's all good, man.

1260
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,960
It's all good.
That's a long time you have.

1261
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,920
No, you have no idea.
I've listened.

1262
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,200
I've listened to 4 hour.
Podcast.

1263
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,200
Really.
Yeah.

1264
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,000
Usually there's two other people
talking.

1265
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,600
About in those four hour
podcast.

1266
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,000
Well, that's the nice thing.
It's just, you know, normally

1267
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,400
ask me what this is about.
I say we just.

1268
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,240
Talk.
Yeah.

1269
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,240
But we're going to have
conversations on a civil level

1270
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,160
about subjects, just like last
week.

1271
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,640
You know, I'm surprised I didn't
get a whole bunch of backlash

1272
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,840
about Bash fashion religion.
But I didn't.

1273
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,120
Well, we didn't Bash religion.
We.

1274
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,800
We didn't bash religion, though.
Think about it.

1275
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,760
We, we.
Yeah, we just we just, we we

1276
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,360
talked about, we talked.
We talked about how Jesus was

1277
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,080
pissed off at his father walking
through the desert for 40 days

1278
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,920
and 40 nights.
Was it 40 days and 40 nights in

1279
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,040
the desert?
Was that the flood?

1280
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:57,480
I don't.
Yeah.

1281
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,160
But you know how he was.
Oh, that might have been.

1282
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,680
That's how.
You know we don't even know.

1283
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,400
Yeah, but that's.
Yeah, but that's how the

1284
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,320
swearing.
Began.

1285
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,360
You know, because you know,
nobody's going to be like, oh

1286
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:11,000
shoot, Dad, do I really have to
walk all this way for this

1287
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,760
amount of time in this barren
wasteland of desert?

1288
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,520
Now, you know, listen to last
week's show and you'll, you'll,

1289
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:23,240
you'll hear our insight on on
how certain adverbs is an adverb

1290
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,120
or an adjective.
It would be an adjective.

1291
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,200
Adjectives were formed.
By.

1292
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:32,360
By the Son of God, you know, you
know, and then you know.

1293
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:34,240
So yeah, you got to listen to
that show.

1294
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,720
I'm not going to, I'm not going
to go back down that path.

1295
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,960
It's all make them listen.
It's all.

1296
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,520
Entertainment.
Did you put a picture?

1297
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,880
Jesus on.
Did the Jesus picture up?

1298
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,760
You know I did not.
That would have.

1299
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,400
Been funny.
I leave myself open.

1300
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,720
Because that could have opened a
whole new.

1301
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,520
Can of listeners.
Man, because I leave myself open

1302
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,480
to possibility.
Yeah, your Internet.

1303
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:59,440
Your Internet just went out
because your screen went black.

1304
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:02,760
What?
Yep.

1305
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,920
Your screen went black.
So you have Internet issues.

1306
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,320
I'm still here.
Black black screen.

1307
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,440
And I still hear.
You black screen.

1308
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,280
Black screen, black.
Screen I can still hear you.

1309
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,200
I just can't see you.
You're just black.

1310
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,080
It's like Spinal Taps album
Smell.

1311
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,560
The Glove.
It was just black.

1312
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,400
None more black.
And then that.

1313
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,320
Then.
That band?

1314
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,160
Metallica.
Then that band Metallica stole

1315
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,800
the idea.
Yes?

1316
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,080
Whose idea was it to?
Make the album Black Spinal.

1317
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,040
Yeah, Spinal Tap, man, you know,
we got to do, I thought.

1318
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:43,280
About this we need to do.
Yeah, yeah, I I thought about

1319
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,600
this.
We need to do do top 11 lists,

1320
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,440
not top ten because we're
musicians.

1321
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,280
You turn it up to 11.
So I'm going to start drawing up

1322
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,960
top 11, the top 11 list of the
show, and I'll, I'll send you a

1323
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,120
copy before the next show.
So we can take, we can bounce

1324
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,480
off 1-2, you know, we start at
11 and go down to #1, but we'll,

1325
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,560
you know, so I'm down, I'm gonna
do that.

1326
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,600
I'm gonna do that.
I'm down, man.

1327
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,160
Right.
On I'll play along.

1328
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,280
So let's leave it at that.
Let's leave it at that.

1329
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:15,720
All right, brother.
I know you will.

1330
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,960
You have no choice.
Is my screen still black?

1331
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,760
It was good talking to you.
Today, Mike Michaels.

1332
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,640
No, it's not black.
Now.

1333
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,480
Now you're just fuzzy.
You're a fuzzy man.

1334
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,920
Fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy.
I'm fuzzy.

1335
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,520
All right.
We also need.

1336
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,360
To decide what?
And we do show in March, we got

1337
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,840
to talk like, like we got to
have accents like we're from

1338
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,320
Ireland or from Scotland.
You know, the entire show talk

1339
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,600
with a Cockney accent or
something like that.

1340
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,040
So people like are these people
from another another country.

1341
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:46,560
I'll let you do an accent and
I'll.

1342
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:51,080
Laugh at you because I can't do
accents and and then.

1343
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,720
And then they don't realize that
it's not really an accent.

1344
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,600
It's just, you know from the
other side of the world.

1345
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,240
I'm just doing a podcast with
this guy who has the same last

1346
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,960
name as it is his first name.
Like, what was your mother

1347
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,200
thinking?
Michael Michaels?

1348
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,120
Like let's get her on the phone
sometime.

1349
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,920
Michael Michaels.
Why did you do that?

1350
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:11,920
Well, David Michaels or Skip
Michaels or Terence Michaels,

1351
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,400
she could answer.
What's the reasoning behind?

1352
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,560
Double named Double.
Entendre, she could answer that

1353
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,080
pretty It's a double.
Entendre.

1354
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,760
We'll have her on here.
She can answer it.

1355
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,200
Well, of course she could.
She's your mom.

1356
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,720
Yeah, I'm not going.
To behave.

1357
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,920
Myself, if your mom's on the
show, she's saying no, I don't

1358
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,520
think she expects you to.
Behavior I got to.

1359
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,960
Be me who are you?
I got to be.

1360
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,480
Free until.
Next week, ladies and gentlemen

1361
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,800
all.
Right boys and girls, Everybody

1362
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,320
be.
Kind this is this is the guy

1363
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,400
that.
Works out a lot with.

1364
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:45,720
With the guitar guy, we are the
Chris and Mike Show.

1365
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,000
Yeah, be kind, be kind and find
us on Facebook.

1366
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,440
Go to Facebook and type in just
Chris and Mike show, not the

1367
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,680
Just type in Chris and Mike's
show and you will see our little

1368
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:04,160
logo Ish Cartoony caricature
thing with me and him

1369
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,760
back-to-back.
I'm smiling in a black suit and

1370
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,640
he's got a guitar because.
And we're both bald in the

1371
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:15,040
picture, which was a stretch.
I told the artist, yeah, yeah, I

1372
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,600
told the artist to just take all
her hair away, you know.

1373
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,160
So yeah, we don't have any, you
know, really, really kind of

1374
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:23,800
connect with us.
You know we have here.

1375
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,280
We just choose not to grow it.
We're not follically challenged

1376
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,640
by any way, shape or form.
It's just it's a lifestyle.

1377
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,360
Choice.
That I I personally made in 1993

1378
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,520
you did you finally followed
suit in in what 2010 or

1379
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,160
something and you know here we
sit.

1380
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,720
So again shout out to my buddy
Jake slash you know Todd Smith

1381
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,920
and his surgery.
Get well, get well my friend.

1382
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,400
Yes.
Positive vibes, Todd, anybody?

1383
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,360
Else out there scoring, yeah.
And it is that silly time of

1384
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,800
year.
So, you know, if you're out

1385
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,960
there and it's you're depressed
and you know, what was me stuff

1386
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,240
going on, Reach out to somebody.
You know, depression's a real

1387
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,400
thing.
Kids don't hide in your room

1388
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,320
under your covers.
You know, talk to somebody.

1389
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,320
There's always a a better day.
Tomorrow, go to Chris and Mike

1390
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,520
show and drop us a message.
We'll.

1391
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,840
Talk to you.
I don't want anybody to fall out

1392
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,800
on us.
Yes and and yeah.

1393
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,720
Yeah.
And follow us, like us and

1394
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,040
follow us because that helps our
world go around.

1395
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,200
And it'll help us grow our, our,
our.

1396
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,520
It'll help, it'll help grow
Mike's dream of having a

1397
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,200
successful podcast in which we
get uh sponsors and ads.

1398
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,800
Yes, You know, so we could say
come Q live in the We fix ugly.

1399
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,800
Pool Studio.
From right, exactly.

1400
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,880
So you know, there you go.
Until next week, ladies and

1401
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,920
gentlemen.
As always, everybody be kind.

1402
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,360
Thank you, my brother.
Absolutely.

1403
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:49,880
See you guys later.
Oh.

1404
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,080
Shit.
What did I just do?

1405
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,840
I hit a button.
There I am.

1406
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,240
Hey, I'm back now.
OK.

1407
01:17:54,320 --> 01:18:43,400
Peace out
the.