#9 - SGT. Jakob Dunham USMC

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Hey, it's the Christian Mike
Show.

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I'm Chris.
Welcome.

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And I'm Mike.
He's Mike.

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We're live.
This is.

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Not Mike.
Hold on.

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Hold on.
Hold.

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On.
Hold.

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On hold.
On.

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Hold.
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Hold.
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Hold.
On hold.

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On Hold.
On OK, we're going to cut the

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music short because we have a
special guest today.

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We'll let Chris introduce our
special guest.

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We do have a special guest on
the show today.

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Turn your preamp up.
I don't know how to act when we

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have guests on the show.
It's very bizarre to me.

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Turn your preamp up.
Nobody can hear you.

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How's that?
That's way better.

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That's way better.
OK, take two.

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Way better take two.
Let me take two.

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Hi, I'm Chris.
Adam.

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And I'm Mike.
This is the Chris and Mike Show,

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and he's the other half of the
Chris and Mike Show.

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I would be the other half.
I had to ring the microphone.

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Yes, we have a special guest
today, so.

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It's increased.
We we do have a special guest.

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He is, he is, he is a civilian
at the moment.

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There he is.
Can you see him?

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Yes.
This is Jacob.

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Hello, Jacob.
So the cool thing about Jacob,

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he's my son.
He's he's 22 years old.

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He's a member of the United
States Marine Corps.

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Hoorah, hoorah.
He doesn't like me calling him

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Sergeant around the house
because he's on leave for for a

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break from the military.
So I cannot call him Sergeant.

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Like when I get up in the
morning, I can't say, Sergeant,

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are you awake yet?
He doesn't like that.

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I shall just call him Jake if
he's.

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Sitting on the couch, they say
hey Sergeant, and you can just

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call him Jake.
I'll just call him Jake.

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Appreciate that more than my
fucking with him like I do like

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I do.
So he was.

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He was.
He wasn't born.

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He, he wasn't born yet in
Nemesis.

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And when we were together in in
Nemesis like.

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He was not alive yet.
He was not alive yet.

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So was that like 65?
That was 65 right before I went

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to Vietnam Sun, right before I
was, you know, in case you know,

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that's when I lost my hands and
wrote the the movie script

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Tropic Thunder.
And then by the grace of the

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surgery, they're back and that
they're reattached now.

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We met in the jungle.
Tropic Thunder is a true story.

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If you didn't know.
Yeah, it's a true story.

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So yeah, so, so Mike is going to
actually take over because I'm

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inept.
I only have one set of

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headphones because I never
thought about having two, and I

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don't have two plugs in my focus
right to plug 2 HUD and Sims.

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So I'd have to get an adapter.
One of those, one of those male

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ends with the two female ends,
you know, I don't know what

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that's called.
I'm going to solve that problem

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for you probably in less than a
month, because I'm going to

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upgrade my studio already.
Oh wait, A.

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Minute.
Where's my applause meter?

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Damn it, we can have applause
for that.

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Then you can have the converter
that I'm currently using, which

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has two headphone plugs and it
has two auxiliary plugs for

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microphones.
This is my this is my training

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gun.
See, it's it's training to come

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out of your holster, fast.
Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew.

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It's not real.
It's fake.

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Turn your preamp up just a
little bit more.

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I have this.
Chip clip OK.

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How's that?
That good?

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That's much better.
Yeah, right, Right.

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That's much.
Better give me the Give me the

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gun, man.
Don't call it a gun.

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That's.
What he calls a fucking whooping

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system which is retired.
I have this in my desk because

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we wanted at a holiday party.
Is that is that my gift from you

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on the show?
That's your gift for being on

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the show.
We give gifts to those attending

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the show when you.
I got a gift for him.

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This is not his gift.
You got a gift?

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No, this is not his gift.
But I have a gift.

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This was my gift from the white
elephant at Christmas, and I

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love it because it's Bob Ross.
Bob Ross, Bobblehead.

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Oh yeah.
You know who Bob Ross is?

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The painter.
He's got the Bob Ross

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bobblehead.
Oh, really?

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OK, so I'm going to leave.
I'm not going to leave, but I'm

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going to.
I'm going to, I'm going to.

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I'm going to put the headphones
over to him.

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Yes, please.
So you guys can start your thing

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and then when you're when you're
when you're done, he'll probably

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escape.
And then you and I just do our

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thing until we we drop the top
10 reasons that you subscribe to

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our podcast.
I mean the Top 11 Reasons 11

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Top. 11 we.
Turn it up a notch.

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We turn it up a notch.
We turn it up a notch.

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You ever see Spinal Tap?
No.

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Oh, you guys have to watch.
As I say, you didn't educate me

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properly.
I'm.

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I'm.
I'm sorry you have let me down

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as a.
Positive Spinal Tap who?

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What's the movie I haven't
watched?

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I'm sorry, Mike.
What's the other movie I haven't

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watched?
That you that you were like?

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We talked about it yesterday.
American Psycho.

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No, I've seen that movie.
Scarface.

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Seen that movie?
Deer Hunter.

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Haven't seen that movie?
Blood sucking freaks.

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Haven't seen it?
Deer Hunter is amazing.

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Behind the green door, right?
I don't know.

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I don't know.
We'll figure it out later.

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But, ladies and gentlemen,
without further ado.

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A, A, A.
He hates when I do this shit.

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But this is my son.
He's a badass Marine and he's

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serving our country and very
proud of that fact.

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And fucking right he is.
That's what Mike said.

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Fucking right he is.
American hero.

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What?
About hero.

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You are you serving your
country?

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OK?
You're a Marine, right?

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Oh, look at the fireworks.
So what do they call the

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Marines?
You're you're, you're a.

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Because you have to go to school
to to learn to kill people.

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What's that called?
The Mottos.

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Every Marine's a Rifleman.
Every Marine's a Rifleman.

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It's not true, but it's but.
It's not true.

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OK, Don't deflate.
People.

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Don't.
Well, coming coming from

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somebody who's actually here in
like doing this shit, it's not

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like.
You have to lean.

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It's it's not.
It's not It's not like an actual

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like thing like because I'm
like, I do a desk job.

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I'm not like training with the
grounds.

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I'm not like shooting rocket
launchers and like constantly

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shooting like.
But you are black belt.

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Yeah, the micro martial arts
program.

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You can ask what about that
because it's like more.

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OK, I'm going to let you toss to
Jake now.

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I'll be here as as comedic
banter.

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I have no doubt.
Oh, there he is.

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I have no doubt that he will be
comedic banter and.

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Just chill out, man.
Just be cool.

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Rock, there's a there's a reason
I asked him to do this.

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He always, you know, because he
always has something to say.

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Yes.
And I don't know.

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Singer man Singer's always got
something to.

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Say it works out.
I feel like this part for me.

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So for the people that are
listening, this is the part that

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I get excited about.
I wanted to interview

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interesting people who have done
things that either I tried to

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do, which I did.
I tried to join the Marine Corps

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and back then they had some
strict they wouldn't take me

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because I had asthma when I was
a kid.

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I don't know if they're still
like that.

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Same with him.
But yeah, we, him and I have

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talked about that.
So it was something that I

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wanted to do.
So for somebody who has been

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there, done that and now you've
been to Japan, how long were you

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over there?
Well, I'm still technically over

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there.
I was there for till this point.

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I guess when I came back in
December was a year year like

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nine months maybe.
Oh wow.

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So you've been over there quite
some time.

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Like like damn near 2 years,
like 2 years.

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Wow.
All right.

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Well, we'll get back to that.
What made you want to join the

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Marine Corps?
Let's start from the beginning.

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Do you got an awesome dad?
He gave you an excellent life.

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You are a good kid.
I followed you growing up on

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Facebook. him and I have talked
on and off.

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He can't say enough good things
about what you've done with your

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life.
What made you want to join the

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Marine Corps when you had any
other opportunity to do anything

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else?
Let's start there.

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That is a very excellent, that's
a very excellent question

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because I don't really.
Know I've been thinking about

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this all day.
What's?

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For a particular reason, there.
Was it really a particular

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reason?
Sorry, that one.

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So I don't know if he knows
this.

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I don't know if anybody knows
this except like like my closest

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friends.
So back in, it was like June,

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July, like 2019.
I just finished high school.

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I was like, I wanted to go to
college.

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And then I was just like, I went
to, I went like, I enrolled in,

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like, CGCC.
And I was in my college

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orientation and I fell asleep in
the front row because it was, it

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was that fucking boring.
And I was like, wow, this sucks.

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So I so I left.
And then my mom, she's like

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getting ready to, like, pay for
the class.

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Like, hey, we're just like,
wait, it's like, I don't want

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her to pay because I don't like
people paying, like, spending a

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lot of money on me.
Like, the closest thing people

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spent, like, a lot of money to
me was probably this, this

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apple, this Apple Watch that I
got yesterday.

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But it's probably the most
expensive.

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Oh, and then there's this.
I got this crucifix for my mom

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yesterday.
But.

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What was yesterday?
I like that.

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Yesterday was Christmas.
Yesterday was Christmas.

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Yes, Merry Christmas.
The most Yeah.

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Merry Christmas.
Excuse me.

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Wow, that was bad.
Relax.

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So I guess like, after it was
like, after a while, like, I

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don't want to pay for the class.
I was like, oh, I'll just go

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like join the Marine Corps.
I'll go expand my options, you

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know, look for a potential
career.

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Expand your.
Horizons expand.

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My horizons go outside the box.
So I talked to the Army.

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Yeah, I talked to the Army.
And they're pretty cool.

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They give me like free shit.
I was like, wow, this is cool.

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Like, whatever.
Mom's like make sure you explore

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your options.
Make sure you talk to other

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recruiters.
So my dad's buddy is was is well

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was a recruiter in I, in the in
the Marine Corps, over in

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Chandler off of Dobson and
Chandler Blvd.

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I think.
Steve West.

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Yeah, OK.
Well, at the time of Stash on

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Steve West, I don't know what
he's.

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I'd always do it now.
I knew he's like National Guard

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or something.
Shout out to Steve West.

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So talk to him.
It was cool.

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Shout out to Steve West, talk to
him for a little bit.

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And then I decided it was it
wasn't for me because I wanted

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to, like, stay.
And then here's the reason,

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right?
That was a little back story.

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So my sister got pregnant,
right?

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OK, so I was like 1.
Let's.

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Clarify by a complete stranger.
Yeah.

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OK, so I was like one, I want to
get the fuck out of here 2

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because like they said, they had
to move.

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So, like, at the time, they just
bought that house that they

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were, that they were like living
at.

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So we had to like, get up and
move completely.

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And I was like, oh, if anything
goes wrong, there's an Ave.

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where I can help out.
But then I'm in fucking boot

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camp and I see my dad seeing a
picture of their new houses.

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Like, wow, they don't need my
fucking help.

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But like, what did I just do?
I was like, so the the majority

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it wasn't.
That's a very honest answer.

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I love it, dude.
I love.

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It and I just like, I didn't say
like do this, like for me, I

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didn't do it for money.
I didn't do it for education.

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I didn't do it.
So I did it for them.

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So I guess like thanks for you
know.

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You're welcome, son.
Yeah.

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So yeah, that's that's kind of
like why I joined, because my

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sister was pregnant with my
first nephew.

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OK, so we got to an interesting
point where you said, I thought

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to myself, what the fuck did I
just do?

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How long did that last before
you calm down and said, OK, this

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is what I'm going to do with my
life now and I've owned that and

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I'm OK with it versus which one
are?

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You again?
Tell her to relax.

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I got this all on.
It that one.

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OK, press it.
It's.

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Hard to tell me.
Yeah, he's trying to tag me on

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some on some stuff.
On social media marketing, Mike,

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where you guys are talking about
just stuff in the military?

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And he's interrupted my train of
thought, man.

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Kinds of things like that.
And you're interrupting a train

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of thought, man.
Interrupting the train of

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thought.
So OK, so I guess like.

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Yeah.
So at what point did you stop

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saying What the fuck?
OK, so.

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Or are you still there?
I was in.

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Where were you?
It's it's it's like right now

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I'm like, what the fuck?
Like the fuck?

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Because we'll get to that in a
little bit, because I realist

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again for a second term.
Sometimes you got to say what

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the fuck name name the movie.
Paps No.

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I'm trying to do my thing.
I know.

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What name the movie?
Risky.

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Business.
You look risky business.

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Yeah, I'm really OK.
He's good.

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He's OK.
So yeah, I know.

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Yeah, so.
See, we have that I.

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Guess so.
I was in the schoolhouse, right?

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Sorry, now I just did it to you.
I apologize.

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OK, Jake's going to talk now.
Ladies and Chris.

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And I apologize for being total
assholes.

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We're Jake's the guest here.
Go ahead, Jake.

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I apologize.
Yeah, so I was in the school

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house.
I was in North Carolina.

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It was in Kev Johnson finishing
up supply school.

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That's what I do, by the way.
I'm a 3043 supply administration

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specialist.
I absolutely fucking hate it.

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It's terrible job.
It sounds terrible.

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Leadership sucks and it's
terrible.

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And I and I am a supervisor, so
I don't do work.

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I'm just there floating around.
But that's that's what that's

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going to be a lot of stuff
later.

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So originally I was supposed to
go to Japan, so the unit I'm at

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now was supposed to be my first
unit, but COVID hit, so we

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couldn't like go overseas
anywhere.

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We couldn't even go to Hawaii.
So they're like, y'all need to

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just put on this piece of paper
your top three places you want

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to go or like, give me like,
what place you want to go, Just

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throw it out there.
So somebody went to Yuma Yuma's

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in Arizona.
It's like it's three hours from

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my house.
So I was like, well, that's

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cool.
I put Yuma down.

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I was the only one in that whole
class that was supposed to go to

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Japan.
There's like 12 of us and I'm

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the only one that got what I
wanted.

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So at that time I was like, OK,
this isn't that bad.

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Like, I was like, yeah, it's
COVID.

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But at least we're going to be
like in the same state I was

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like, I thought about it.
I was like, oh, I can see my

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family soon.
I get my friends.

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I can have my truck.
Like, I can like, at the time I

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had a truck and I was like,
well, this, like this works.

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Like, this works out perfectly.
So at that at like when I was

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like on my way back over there,
it was just very like relaxing,

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kind of like a I'm coming back
like it's going to be, it's

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going to be relaxing like it's
going to be, it's going to be

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fine at the end of the day
because it's not going to go

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like 6000 miles across the ocean
to a place I don't even know to

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people.
I don't even know when here I

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had like a better atmosphere of
like like it's going to be like

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back to normal life beforehand.
That makes sense.

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That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, so.

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OK, so how did?
You stop.

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That's when I got the Yuma.
The craziness.

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Stop that.
You got to Yuma.

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Yeah, when I got there, because
I actually met, I met a whole

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bunch of new people that were
really cool.

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Some were really from
California, some were from

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Arizona.
So it was, it was the people,

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like on my level.
Plus, I had a really good

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leader, too.
His name was at the time, it was

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Lieutenant Romer, but he's a
captain now, so he really make

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me felt like at home when I
wasn't at home.

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And some of my staff in CS2,
they're pretty cool.

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They're they're all people like
families.

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So they made the place feel like
a family, so it was like home

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away from home.
OK, so can I pause you Right

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there was let me see how I want
to say this because I'm going to

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try and relate it to the time
that I was in the band with your

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dad.
Was that the first time that you

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met people that you knew 100%
had your back, that weren't your

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family Being away from home, not
your friends when you're home,

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but OK because being in the band
with him?

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Yes and no.
When I had the other two guys

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there, plus your dad, that was
the first time that I knew that

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there were other people in my
life that 100% had my back that

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weren't my family.
Like no matter what I did, I

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knew that those guys had my back
100%.

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So it just sounded like that
similar kind of experience for

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you where that's when I was able
to relax for the first time and

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enjoy my life.
Yeah, it was.

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There's like a couple, I guess
there's like there's like 1% in

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particular.
His name is what we call them

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Diaz, but I remember.
Diaz.

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Yeah.
So this time it was, it was, I

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was, I was APFC, so it was like
Lance Corporal Diaz, he was like

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right above me.
He's one that really like kind

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of brought me in because we were
like we're like around the same

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age.
He's like year older than me.

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And we kind of just really just
like became friends and you kind

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of just like showed me the ropes
of the place like should be like

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how to like basically survive
here.

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I guess like in like the the
Fleet Marine Corps what they

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call it.
OK, so he's got only one at the

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time that I trusted rather than
my other friend coming in like

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May of that year, so.
And what were you doing for a

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job at this point?
Same thing.

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Or oh, so do we supply?
OK.

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Yeah, it is the same.
I had well at the time I I was

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told to there's different
sections within supply.

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So it's like I was in the fiscal
section which handles like the

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funds of the of the of the unit
because I was at headquarters.

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So I was like handling like the,
the 11:50 like squadrons with

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like per year was like a three
to $4 million budget.

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So they just threw me in there.
It's like all right, do I fix

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this?
It's like, all right, I was

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like, OK and hold on.
A. 2nd That's what I did for

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like 2 years.
I just want to make a joke,

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ladies and gentlemen. the United
States of America is entrusting

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Jake at 22 years old with three
to $4 million of your tax

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dollars.
So.

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Well, I was 18, so for that.
Oh, it's even better.

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He was 18, folks.
He was 18.

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That's great.
Yeah.

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I actually trust you before.
I trust a lot of them old

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bastards that are in Washington.
So that was a joke Completely.

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I would trust you before I would
trust me.

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I don't.
Trust me there.

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Oh.
Gosh.

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And I will say that as this
podcast goes along, you're going

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to hear me say a lot of things
that seem like I'm anti war and

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military.
I am 100% for you guys.

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I am 100% against the people
that make the decision to put

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you in harm's way in places that
we have no business being.

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So that's where I stand, 100%
right?

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You guys are badass.
It's funny that you mention

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that.
Go.

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Ahead, I said, well, it's funny
that you mention that because a

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lot of people, like, feel like,
oh, like they want to put us in

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harm's way.
But there's like a lot of people

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who are like, Nah, fuck it,
let's go, let's go.

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Like the like, the entire
infantry is just like, Nah,

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fucked out.
Let's go, let's just, let's just

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go over sheets.
Let's go shoot people.

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That's like, because that's what
they want to do.

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That's what they're trained to
do.

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So it's like.
And I got 1/2 and half.

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I would say.
Fiddy, Fiddy, you're.

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Welcome, son.
Thanks.

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He's so much help.
So kids and you OK?

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So how long were you in Yuma
before you got moved to your

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next tour of duty?
2 years.

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Wow.
OK.

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And that's one.
Yeah.

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March to March, March of 20 to
March of 22.

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And that's when you got sent to
Japan.

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Yeah.
OK.

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So still same job going to
Japan?

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Yep, still same job.
Keep your same job until you

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submit a lateral move.
You just request to go to a

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different job if you meet the
prerequisites.

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So at this point, what what are
you rank wise at at this point?

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Not now, but at the point that
we're talking about, when you

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when you got to Yuma and when
you left, did you gain?

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Right when I was saying.
Yeah.

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I gained so when I was in the
schoolhouse I was a or when I

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was MCT was Ring Combat
Training, which is in between

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boot camp and your schoolhouse.
I was a private, so it was a

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private and then in the
schoolhouse I promoted the Pfc

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or when I graduated MCTI
promoted to private.

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First class Pfc got the Yuma
five.

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Wait, so five like 8-9 months
later I was promoted the Lance

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Corporal and then a year after
that or let's say 11 months

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because I was meritoriously
promoted, which is like if

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you're meritorious, you you want
to board and then you take a

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like a two or three day event.
You you do drill, you do

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physical events, you answer
questions, you write papers like

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you give presentations.
So I got promoted to corporal

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right after that meritoriously.
And then as when I left Yuma, I

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was a corporal, So after I was
like 6 months after that.

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So when I left to go to Japan.
So you left there as a corporal?

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E4.
OK.

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I kind of know a little bit
about the ranks, but probably

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people that are listening don't.
And I don't know enough about it

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to even get started explaining
it to somebody.

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So you can talk to me like I'm a
complete novice.

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OK, So you go to Japan as a
corporal, doing the same job.

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What was were you excited to go
there at this point?

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You had accepted, you're in the
Marines.

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You are a Marine.
Let me back up one step.

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I got one question as far as so
you go through boot camp, basic

456
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,360
training, whatever you want to
call it.

457
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,280
Let's let's back up to there
because that's one thing that I

458
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,000
really want to know about.
How bad was that go from I

459
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240
signed up to day one.
You get there, kind of go

460
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,720
through basic training for me
because people have described it

461
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520
to me.
What was it for you?

462
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,520
Well, at first it was, it was
very stressful because it's a

463
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560
whole new environment.
Like, I wasn't used, I guess.

464
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,360
Like, it's like like high school
football.

465
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,200
I was used to waking up at like
6, go to wait till like 630, you

466
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,720
know, go to class, stuff like
that.

467
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,640
But like, this was like, hey
Dozer, sorry, sit down, sit

468
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,520
down, boy.
So I guess like going there, you

469
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,600
have to, like it was like when
you go to receiving, you're up

470
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:09,520
for like that morning where you
have to fly from MEPs to San

471
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,240
Diego.
So I was up that day at like

472
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,880
3:30.
My recruiter came and picked me

473
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,400
up and then I went to MEPs, did
final paperwork, went on the

474
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,520
flight, went to San Diego, and I
chilled in the USO for like I

475
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,120
think like 12 hours.
And I was just there, just still

476
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,480
awake, like, kind of, like
looking at the door, like,

477
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,880
peeking at the doors.
Like, what are like the drill

478
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,920
instructors going to walk in?
They come in, we got on the bus.

479
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,960
We go to boot camp.
And you have to have, like, your

480
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,320
your head down.
Like, like, you can't, like,

481
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,440
look on the outside.
You're supposed to, like, you

482
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,080
were supposed to, like the last
outside thing.

483
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720
You're going to see like, for a
while, get your head, you're

484
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,000
going to bust, get your head
down.

485
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,400
You're like, you're like you're
like this.

486
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,880
Like like it's it's some weird
stuff.

487
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,920
It's like, so we get there
immediately.

488
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,360
We get off the bus.
People are screaming at us,

489
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,800
getting inside, getting our head
shaved, empty all your pockets

490
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,200
like all I had on you was like
my ID, like 20 bucks and my

491
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,280
Social Security guard and like 1
little pamphlet with all like

492
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,120
all my paperwork.
You get into like the little

493
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,800
like they call it the contraband
room.

494
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,360
You get in because remember you
go through the doors, take a

495
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,000
left, you go down the hall, the
left side is the Barber shop and

496
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,400
then the right side is like the
Contra room.

497
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,120
So we went into the Barber shop
first, got her head shaved,

498
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,400
sewed your civilian clothes.
You get out, you filter into the

499
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Contra bedroom.
There's like little like little

500
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,440
red bins.
Put all your shit in there and

501
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,280
it like empty your pockets, pull
up your card or like like like

502
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,120
grab this, pulled it up.
It's like if you have jewelry,

503
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520
hold it up.
Like it's like you have a cell

504
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,920
phone, you have a whatever, hold
it up.

505
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000
You need to get it so it's like
everything's very fast-paced

506
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,760
trying to get us all ready and
we're just like constantly on

507
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320
the move.
We had to like, stay up for like

508
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880
2 days straight, get shots, do
paperwork.

509
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,400
So you literally had no sleep
during this whole time?

510
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,960
Hydrated it's like 3 days
straight 3.

511
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,640
No shit, the battery.
'S dead, yeah, Which now I'm

512
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,720
used to it.
I mean, now I can just stay up

513
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,920
for like 340 straight and not
not I can just.

514
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,120
I can survive off energy drinks
and Oreos not be fine.

515
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,800
How many hours of?
Flying back to the United

516
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,840
States.
No, no, we're talking about Boot

517
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,680
Camp.
Oh, I know, but you're talking

518
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,360
about staying awake.
And I was like, how many?

519
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,320
Hours.
Did you fly flying back?

520
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,120
From he's allowed to ask.
Questions Japan.

521
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,120
Well side track record flying?
Yeah, flying back from Japan

522
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
recently until now, it was like
29 hours.

523
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,440
I was just awake.
Holy shit, I.

524
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,720
Was just like just watching
movies, listening to music,

525
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,640
walking through like the
Japanese airports.

526
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,520
Like trying to read the signs as
best as I can so I don't get

527
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,240
lost.
I've done that many times, but I

528
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,640
had a lot of help and I don't
suggest that for anyone.

529
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,360
Stick with the energy drinks and
coffee.

530
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,720
But I've never stayed up for
more than a couple days without

531
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800
a lot of help.
We'll just leave it at that.

532
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Yeah, it's not a mystery.
I did drugs, but that's a

533
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,640
different podcast.
So, OK, so now you're you got

534
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,360
your head shaved.
You've been up for three days.

535
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,280
That's where we're at.
Yeah, so then we have to get

536
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,360
into like in the receiving squad
base.

537
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,960
So there's a time, It's like, I
don't know why, but they made us

538
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,880
go to sleep at like 7 like 7:00
PM one day.

539
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Takes me to wake up like early
the next day and not like the

540
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000
feeling when they eat like way
too fast and you get like super

541
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040
sick.
Sure, absolutely.

542
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840
In a way, how about that?
Like, absolutely.

543
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280
Yeah.
So there's like, when we got

544
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,880
there like that next morning we
woke up.

545
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,680
Or was it was that same day that
we were off, like the three days

546
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520
straight, but we were at like,
breakfast.

547
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920
We call it like morning chow
and, like, I was eating, but

548
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,640
they're like, better eat fast.
So I was eat fast.

549
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040
And I was like, wow, I'm gonna
puke because I I was.

550
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240
I've never, like, eaten so fast
in my life.

551
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Like, I don't know.
I don't even know Because it's

552
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040
like, a certain way that you had
to, like, sit there, you had to

553
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560
eat like you can only eat like,
like what hand.

554
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
You were just like this the
whole time, just like shoveling

555
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:25,040
food in your mouth.
And then like, so after that we

556
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320
had we did more paperwork that
day and then that night we went

557
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,560
to sleep at like at like 7:00
PM.

558
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Woke up at like 4 the next day,
got ready, ran the IST, the

559
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,480
initial strength test, which is
like a mile and a half a Max set

560
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800
of pull ups and then a Max set.
Oh no.

561
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,880
It was like a Max set of
crutches.

562
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920
I'd be dead, dude.
I would be dead.

563
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,680
I'm laughing at your dad, but
I'm just like, holy shit up.

564
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,960
There's no way I would like
that.

565
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,040
I'm not in that good shape.
Surprisingly, there's a lot of

566
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,440
like people my age that like
were like they were dropped

567
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800
because they they failed it.
And.

568
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:10,920
You had failed doing like 12
pull ups and like 60 crunches

569
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,040
and run a mile and 1/2 in less
than 13 minutes.

570
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,840
I could have done it at your
age.

571
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440
I can't do it at my age.
But I was.

572
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Your dad can probably still do
it.

573
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360
That sucks.
Yeah.

574
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160
I mean, before he broke his
foot, sure.

575
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,280
But I mean, you probably could
do it now I.

576
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320
Could do it now.
I couldn't do it now, yeah.

577
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Tell him why I run.
This up six minute mile.

578
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Tell him why I run this up.
Six minute mile.

579
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,160
Because you try because.
I was trying to catch your ass.

580
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Oh yeah, the reason my dad is
like this because he's trying to

581
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,200
catch me.
Well, I kind of let's.

582
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Get motivated getting this.
Later but I was getting this so

583
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,640
I didn't work out for like 3
months.

584
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,080
Yeah, we're getting there.
We're getting there.

585
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400
So I was getting yeah, I was
getting this, so.

586
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Yeah, that's going to be a whole
nother conversation, you know?

587
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,560
Last me a little bit.
You're not getting off the

588
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,120
podcast without explaining the
tattoo.

589
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,880
We're not there yet, buddy.
We're still at boot camp.

590
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Oh, 100%, yeah.
Yeah.

591
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,920
I've been looking forward to
this for a long.

592
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Time, so I thought it was a lot
of fun.

593
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Don't think that there's a time
limit here.

594
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
You take all the time you need.
I think you're a totally

595
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,720
interesting cat and it it's a
pleasure to have you on here and

596
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,840
everybody else is looking
forward to this too.

597
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,080
So just not all of us got to go
through boot camp and be a

598
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Marine and do all these cool
things like see different

599
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,600
countries.
So you're an interesting dude.

600
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800
So continue on with Bert Boot
camp.

601
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Bert Camp.
Continue on with Bert Camp, yes.

602
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,960
So I could say boot camp was a
lot of fun because we had like,

603
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,920
no shit.
There's like cliques, like

604
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,480
there's little, like, obviously
there's like just get that out.

605
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280
There's like the Hispanic group,
there's the white group, there's

606
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,760
like the the African American
group, there's like the American

607
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Samoa group.
There's like different people

608
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,560
because like, oh like like the
couple because they're like they

609
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,600
either came together or they're
like minded or like I guess they

610
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,640
look the same like whatever
whatever you want to call it.

611
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880
But as it goes on, people can
more comfortable with each

612
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,880
other.
Everybody starts to know each

613
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840
other's name.
So it's kind of like it kind of

614
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,680
feel like high school, like high
school football season all over

615
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760
again because you just like
you're just with a group of guys

616
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800
and you're going through the
same shit and working out all

617
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,480
the time.
That's exactly what it sounds

618
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,800
like.
Dude, these are crappy pull ups.

619
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Yeah, like y'all eat the same
thing.

620
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Y'all do the same stuff.
You'll sit in the same classes

621
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,000
you guys are running the same
we're.

622
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Wearing the same.
Shirt.

623
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,120
We're wearing the same clothes.
Oh, am I?

624
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320
Yeah, we're going.
To back it up.

625
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,880
We're like, we're wearing the
same clothes, run around the

626
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,040
same place together.
We all shit in the same place,

627
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,440
We all eat the same place, like
all of our foot lockers look the

628
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,640
same.
We all look the same with our

629
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,480
shaved heads, like we're all on
the rifle rages together.

630
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,800
We're all running this PFTCFT
together like we're doing all

631
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,280
the same stuff.
Oh, that's weird.

632
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,080
I have those shoes too here.
So it was I could say it was fun

633
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440
because it's a good group of
guys that I still talked to to

634
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,720
this day.
Like I was just in my birthday

635
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,360
in Japan in April.
I had two guys from boot camp

636
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,520
who were there on deployments
and we also we they went out

637
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
with me and we partied on my
birthday and the capital.

638
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,280
City is totally cool.
Okinawa which is not huh?

639
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,120
That's totally cool, man.
That reminds me.

640
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,960
Of so I guess.
I guess you could say I enjoyed

641
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Boot Camp a lot.
Yeah, that reminds me of sitting

642
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,360
here like you're doing this
podcast with your dad and all

643
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,240
the memories of the hundreds if
not thousands of shows that we

644
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680
played together.
Just, you know, just seeing him

645
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,680
brings back all those memories.
So I I totally understand what

646
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,840
you're talking about.
That's cool.

647
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200
So you had a good experience?
Like little jokes that we all

648
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
like, that we all like, said to
each other, yeah, that was

649
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,880
pretty cool.
That's cool.

650
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,760
That's cool.
That was good.

651
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Getting OK punched in the face
with my chill instructors every

652
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:14,480
day was kind of funny.
So what is to graduate from

653
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,080
that?
Don't you guys have to do

654
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
something different?
I mean, each branch has their

655
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,160
own final Test, right?
But isn't yours like the hardest

656
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,160
final Test there is to call
yourself a Marine to be able to

657
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,440
wear that uniform?
Is that true?

658
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
So.
Explain that.

659
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,480
Yeah, it was pretty difficult.
Yeah.

660
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,960
So it's called the Crucible.
It's a 54 hour field event.

661
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,480
Holy shit.
And there's like, I think you.

662
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Yeah, I think you hike.
What was the total?

663
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800
It was like, it's like 50.
It's like 100 miles.

664
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320
We have to like like walking
around like Camp Pendleton in

665
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,640
the little recruit training
area.

666
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:01,480
It's called Edson Range Recruit,
Recruit, field training

667
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Battalion.
You weren't there.

668
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,520
You were somewhere else, but
like, so we're it's like 54

669
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,719
hours.
You start off with like like a

670
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,840
morning hike at like 2:00 in the
morning.

671
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560
You get up, you go.
You only have like 3 MRA's on

672
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,800
you.
You have to field trip them.

673
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,440
You can't have the candy.
You can only have like the

674
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,280
snacks and the main meals.
And you just you're just walking

675
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,920
around for like 3 days straight
with like barely any food.

676
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,800
Zero sleep.
You only sleep like twice for

677
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,960
like an hour for like those
those days.

678
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,360
And there's there's a time and I
remember this.

679
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,280
So it's the Marine Corps is
really based off of hurry up and

680
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,840
wait because it's like you have
to get there fast just to get

681
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,159
there before you're supposed to
be there on time.

682
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,800
I guess like you're like 50
minutes prior to like the 50

683
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,040
minutes prior type thing.
But there was this one night.

684
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
So we come back from this
little, I guess this little

685
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,280
field thing.
So we had to get up, get our

686
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920
packs on.
We had to carry our rifles in a

687
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,320
fucking ammo can.
And we were like, walking up

688
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,320
these hills, walking down these
hills, going around this place,

689
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,360
walking down past the barracks.
We thought, oh, we're gonna go

690
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,600
back to the barracks, But we
didn't.

691
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,640
And like, walking past, we go
down the hill again, we turn

692
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,760
around and go back up this hill.
Funny thing about that.

693
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,800
I fell asleep while I was
walking, Holy shit.

694
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,760
And I remember waking up and I
was like, holy shit, I'm still

695
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
walking.
I was like a total autopilot.

696
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,440
That's crazy, dude.
That's crazy.

697
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,360
And then?
After we got back from that.

698
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Hold on one second, Rick.
Couldn't I got rifles?

699
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,320
Not to not to interrupt you, I
got one question.

700
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,800
So as this is going on for this
54 hours it who's monitoring

701
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,880
this?
Do you guys have like a person

702
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,400
that's in charge of your group
that you're with, that's

703
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,480
watching what you're doing and
leading this?

704
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,920
Or how is this going down as far
as how do you know where to hike

705
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,600
and how long to hike and when to
rest and when or you don't get

706
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,360
any rest?
Yeah.

707
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,560
So we have our our drill
instructors.

708
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,360
So we had our knowledge hat.
So we have our kill hat, which

709
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,240
was Sergeant Kinison.
Knowledge hat was Sergeant

710
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,320
McConnell or Jay.
So our drill or the platoon

711
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Sergeant was Sergeant O'Neill
and our senior drill instructor,

712
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,040
which was Sergeant Schmick also.
It was how like a like an

713
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,560
intermediate hat who was just
there.

714
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,640
His name was Sergeant Gomez,
which I actually still talked to

715
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,240
him to this day, which is kind
of funny.

716
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,800
So they were like over there
monitoring us, like walking with

717
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,040
us, hiking with us, just going
through like all the shit.

718
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040
So it's like, it's not like
that.

719
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,480
There's like one person like
doing everything.

720
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,480
They were all there, like
basically, like teaching us

721
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,040
like, I want to say encouraging,
because they weren't encouraging

722
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,480
us.
They're like, get the fuck up

723
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,320
the hill or like get get fucking
closer.

724
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Like like what the fuck you do,
get the fuck out.

725
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,480
Let's go like they're more of
like, therefore, I guess like a

726
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,360
scared support, if that makes
sense.

727
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,040
Yeah, tough luck.
Kind of like like we're here for

728
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,000
you type thing, but they're not
saying that.

729
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040
OK.
How many weeks into your boot

730
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,680
camp is that Crucible?
It's at the end.

731
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,720
So how long is this process?
Where are we at in the in your

732
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:20,560
story?
13, I'm trying to think 13, I

733
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,120
think like the 11th week. 11th
or like the 10th week because it

734
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,520
was like, yeah, like the 11th
week because the 11th week.

735
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080
And then there's like there's
two weeks for Marine week, which

736
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
is like you just like kind of
sit there and just like send the

737
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,520
squad bait, clean your weapons,
jerk off.

738
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Like, I don't know.
Well, not really that.

739
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,480
But it's like, you know what I
mean?

740
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Like, well, that's when I walk
around, like not do, like do

741
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,400
shit.
Yeah.

742
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:48,520
So, like, so I guess like the
the 10th, 11th week, which is

743
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520
like kind of like, all right,
Chris, well let's go.

744
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:56,520
The reason I ask is how many
people did not make it through

745
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560
that that had to suffer through
the 1st, 10 or 11 weeks?

746
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,920
What was the percentage of
people that failed The Crucible?

747
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,400
Well, I'm not sure in my
platoon, none.

748
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:16,920
Because nice like we had a good
group of guys and our and our

749
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:22,200
hats helped us out a lot.
Not help us out in like passing

750
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,000
us, but like help us out isn't
like, I'm sorry I got to fucking

751
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,800
cramp my leg.
It's.

752
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,800
Because you're drinking all the
energy drinks, man.

753
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,960
I'm not drinking.
Walter.

754
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,760
Yeah, that sucks drink.
Some more Walter hydrates some.

755
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,440
Water hydrates young one.
I guess none.

756
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,200
Yeah, but there's this one dude
who he didn't fail.

757
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,440
He just here's what do you call
it.

758
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,120
He got carried.
He got he got put in the truck,

759
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,680
go up the up the the the hill to
go to the actual like to where

760
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
we got the DGA ceremony because
he got fucked up in the

761
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,360
Crucible.
Because like there'd be like

762
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,800
this.
It was like a it was like a

763
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Mcmath thing.
But it's like you just like you

764
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,040
just beat the fuck out of each
other.

765
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Give you like headgear.
They give you like the the groin

766
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,160
protector, the shin card.
It's not like the boxing that's

767
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,560
like, all right go have at it
and then there's like there was

768
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960
like beat each other up.
He just gets knocked the fuck

769
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
out and then he just gets like
he doesn't do the Crucible.

770
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,920
He's just there, like in the
truck.

771
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,120
They blacked him out.
Knocked him out.

772
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.

773
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,840
OK, yeah, he he gets a pass.
And he got basically carried.

774
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Yeah, he got well, he got
carried for the rest of the the

775
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Crucible, if you could say that
he got carried here.

776
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,480
They're just putting the truck
and driven up a hill, so.

777
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,160
So none of your platoon failed.
Now.

778
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:59,920
How many guys is that?
We all it was like about.

779
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,280
He's looking at a picture in 80
ladies and gentlemen.

780
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,440
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, that one.

781
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440
It's like 83 people.
Holy Smoke about about 83

782
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,000
people.
I was just thinking that would

783
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,680
suck to go through.
All that.

784
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,160
Time and then get booted right
at the bitter end.

785
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,320
You know that would suck.
People do get dropped though for

786
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,600
dumb reasons.
Like believe it or not, they do

787
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,680
get dropped for Yeah.
So this is the platoon picture.

788
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,680
That's awesome.
I don't.

789
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,760
Know.
I don't know where I'm at

790
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,720
exactly.
Oh, sorry, I'm right there.

791
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,360
And for those of you who are
just listening, he's got a nice

792
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,520
frame picture of his platoon
that's totally cool.

793
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,680
That shows approximately 80 some
Marines that all graduated with

794
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
him in his class.
So there's people that just

795
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,760
listen to this.
They don't watch the video.

796
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,440
So I got to explain a couple
things here.

797
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,440
Yeah, yeah, we're on Spotify.
Side tracks, so the reason I

798
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600
actually found out about.
No, I was just going to say

799
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,080
we're on Spotify as a video
podcast, but if anybody listens

800
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,960
to it anywhere else other than
Spotify, they don't get a video.

801
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,520
I can't figure out how to make
it go to the other places.

802
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,320
OK, yeah, 'cause when I found
out about this podcast, I was

803
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,920
with my buddy one day and I was
just like, on Spotify.

804
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560
I saw the Christian Mike show.
That's I'm like, oh, that's

805
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
cool.
I was like, I don't know who

806
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,240
this is.
Like Mice is on my feed.

807
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,840
And I clicked on it.
I saw him.

808
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,120
I was like, what the fuck?
I was like, what the hell?

809
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,600
No, no, no, no.
No.

810
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,280
Hold on.
Hold.

811
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,120
On I was like.
Back up.

812
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,960
So you actually found it on your
own without him telling you that

813
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,800
we were doing this?
What were you?

814
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Really surprised.
Yes.

815
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Oh my God, that makes.
That story in Japan?

816
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,320
Just chilling.
I know.

817
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,000
But you know, and OK, here's the
deal, Jake.

818
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:06,280
So one day I look at I'm a freak
about the analytics.

819
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,640
So I've been looking at where
everybody's listening at, and

820
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,800
I'm laying on the couch one day
watching a football game or

821
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,440
something, and I popped up the
analytics page and I saw Japan

822
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,960
pop up there.
You were the first person.

823
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
No, you were the second person
to listen to it outside the

824
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,480
United States.
So Austria, Some guy or gal in

825
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Austria has been listening
regularly for a while.

826
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,480
And your dad and I have no idea
who it is, 'cause we don't know

827
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,200
anybody there.
But then I saw Japan pop up, and

828
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,360
I knew you were there, so I kind
of assumed it was you.

829
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,280
And he confirmed it was you.
But he didn't tell me that you

830
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,720
found it on your own.
That's so cool, man.

831
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,920
I I love it.
I didn't know you found it on

832
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,760
accident.
Yeah, I I found out an accident.

833
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,520
So Jake found out that his dad
was doing a podcast while he was

834
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,680
in the United States Marine
Corps, 6000 miles away in Japan,

835
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,880
just to bring that story full
circle.

836
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,800
That's totally cool.
Yeah.

837
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,080
So what'd you think?
Be honest.

838
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,600
I mean, I enjoyed it because it
was like, no, yeah, I did.

839
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,120
I I really, I I enjoyed the like
how outgoing it was.

840
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,680
How was it like a like you
actually be yourself?

841
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680
It's not like one of like those
censored ass podcasts where like

842
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,000
it's a bunch of like pussy shit
and you're just like, oh, we

843
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,080
can't cursing the show.
Oh my God, it's family friendly.

844
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Like it's it's one of those one
of those podcasts that's like,

845
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,680
it's just it just feels normal I
guess in like this everyday

846
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,560
world down.
Because every like right now you

847
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,000
all know what's all going on.
Like a bunch of like soft ass

848
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,360
pansies in the world right now.
It's just like it's a breath of

849
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,880
fresh air to see, like some real
shit actually being talked

850
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,080
about.
And.

851
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,440
Actually like in a non censored
way.

852
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Non censored and I hope people
understand that it's non

853
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,440
judgmental as well.
You know, like your dad and I

854
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,920
have some pretty, we have some
pretty, not so popular opinions

855
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,160
about different things, you
know, But it's all done coming

856
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,480
from our heart.
This is how we feel about life.

857
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,560
You know, it's not meant to say
you have to live that way or we

858
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,440
disagree with how you're living.
I appreciate everything that you

859
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,880
said, though, man.
That's totally cool.

860
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,680
I I wanted to get it from a
younger person's perspective and

861
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,880
that's the angle that we were
going at.

862
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,520
And I also want the older people
that are listening to this

863
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,920
podcast to hear what you're
saying because we're trying to

864
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,840
target more your age to my age
than we are people that are

865
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640
older than us.
You know it.

866
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,080
It just makes sense because
that's who we can relate to.

867
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,840
So it's important for, it's
important for people who are

868
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,200
older than me to hear your
perspective that that's what

869
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,440
kids want to hear.
They want to be talked to like

870
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,000
normal human beings.
You know, not that you're a kid,

871
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,880
you're a, you're a you're a
bonafide man.

872
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,960
You're United States Marine.
But to me, you weren't even born

873
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,760
when I was playing in a band
with your dad.

874
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,360
So it's like Jesus, that makes
me feel.

875
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,480
But thank you very much.
I I'm my own worst critic.

876
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,840
I hate everything I do and I
enjoy doing this.

877
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
I really do.
It's one of the coolest things

878
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,720
I've ever done.
And partly because I'm doing it

879
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,080
with your dad.
A lot of people have asked me

880
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,600
why him, You know, not because
they dislike him.

881
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,440
Just.
I have a lot of friends, a lot

882
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,760
of musicians that I played.
I could do it with anybody.

883
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,240
They asked, you know why in
particular him?

884
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,240
Because your dad and I can be at
180.

885
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,400
We can be at odds on a subject,
and we have never.

886
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680
We even raised our voice towards
each other.

887
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,080
We agree to disagree about a lot
of things, and it's always done

888
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,960
very respectfully.
Usually it turns into humor.

889
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,680
You know, we'll just make fun of
whatever we're talking about and

890
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,840
move on to the next subject.
That's a gift.

891
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,320
You can't do that with
everybody.

892
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,920
And as you go through life,
you're going to have people that

893
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:14,280
you know, they got your back
like that and hang on to them

894
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,000
because they're friends.
You'll have forever.

895
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:19,880
So that's why I chose him.
Oh.

896
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Yeah, 100%.
OK, so you finished boot camp

897
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,720
well?
I'm pretty sure he feels very

898
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,840
special about it.
He does.

899
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,560
I do too.
He Yeah, we'll get back to your

900
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,560
story in a second.
But he has probably never

901
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,360
listened to my little 8 minute
Thanksgiving podcast and he

902
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,680
joked on one podcast that he
forced me to do this and nothing

903
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,200
could be further from the truth.
He wanted to be write some music

904
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:53,200
for him and my stipulation was,
OK, I want you to do a podcast

905
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,240
with me because I don't know how
to do it by myself.

906
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,120
And your dad's funny and he's
provided a lot of humor for the

907
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,560
people who are currently
listening.

908
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,800
And that's another reason I
wanted to do this.

909
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,480
My motivation was I used to
listen to a guy named Art Bell,

910
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,320
and he would be overnight from
like midnight to 5:00 in the

911
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
morning and he would have these
crazy guests where they would

912
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:25,320
talk about UFOs and military
secrets and ghosts and just any

913
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040
outlandish subject you could
think of to talk about in the

914
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,720
middle of the night.
And it was so cool.

915
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,120
You know, I just, I got
fascinated with that long form

916
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,160
interview kind of talking to
interesting people and you were

917
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,360
the first person I thought of as
an interesting person.

918
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,040
So we will continue on.
After you left boot camp, you

919
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,280
went to North Carolina, you went
to Yuma and now you're going to

920
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Japan.
So what is?

921
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:55,280
What's your first day in Japan
like after a 29 hour flight or

922
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:02,680
whatever?
So when I got there, you have to

923
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,760
do something called JRC, which
is like your introduction to the

924
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,120
island.
What's?

925
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Because it's not mainland Japan
like Tokyo, So the mainland,

926
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,800
while we classify it, is like
Tokyo.

927
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,160
What's?
JRC.

928
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,760
Mean.
Hiroshima.

929
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,720
Nagasaki.
Oh, JRC.

930
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,680
I don't know what it means.
It's just like it's just your.

931
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,920
It's like the It's like the
Welcome Aboard type type deal.

932
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,280
OK.
I guess.

933
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,960
And where are you at at this
point?

934
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:37,200
So, so we flew into Kadena Air
Force Base and then now JRC is

935
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,360
on Camp Foster, which is like 20
minutes away.

936
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:51,200
OK.
So yeah, so like trying to think

937
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,560
if we get there and it's like we
just sleep that night and then

938
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,920
the next day is like full of
classes, what to do, what not to

939
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,360
do on the island like.
Give us some example.

940
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,000
I got off like Riptide.
Like when you're like, so let's

941
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,640
say what you can't do go out in
town, eat food, you know, go to

942
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,400
bars, go to clubs, do whatever.
But you can't do, go to Red

943
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,840
light district, go to soapies.
No, those are right.

944
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,400
That's fine.
Yeah, those aren't soapies.

945
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,120
No.
What is that?

946
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Yeah, they're like, oh, so
soapy, right?

947
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:37,440
So it's like a specific place
that what I've heard is like the

948
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,800
Yakuza own.
But I'm not.

949
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,800
I'm not.
I'm not sure.

950
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,560
I've never been to one, just
clarify.

951
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Never been to one and.
That's people, that Japanese

952
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:46,840
mafia.
Correct.

953
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,760
You basically pay.
Yeah.

954
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Well, yeah.
Like the, yeah, the gangster

955
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,680
stuff like that.
So yeah, they they kind of have

956
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,480
like, so this is just a place
where like you go and you pay

957
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,280
for like women to like, bait
you.

958
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,600
OK.
But like, it's like a group

959
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,000
setting, like everybody's butt
ass naked.

960
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,680
And then like, what it is, I
guess, like these beautiful

961
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,680
women come and you pay them to
like, bathe you and then like,

962
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,200
do other favours, if that's what
you'll call it.

963
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,400
So it's kind of like a whole
prostitution is legal, but it's

964
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,600
not.
You're not supposed to do it, I

965
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,200
guess if that's what you that's
how you classify it.

966
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,880
Military can't do it, obviously,
because it's prostitution.

967
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,760
Prostitution is illegal here, so
it's legal there.

968
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,160
It's for us.
So it's not illegal, but it's.

969
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Not it's a culture thing.
Yes, OK.

970
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,480
So what else can't you do
besides go to the red light

971
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,120
district and pick up hookers?
What's a huge no, no.

972
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Drugs, obviously, Because drugs,
obviously, Yeah, you can't.

973
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,960
Like there's there's like, it's
a lot of like black and white.

974
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,800
You can't do like stuff you
can't do here, you can't do

975
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,600
there.
I just can't do drugs.

976
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,120
You can't drink or drive because
the alcohol policy over there is

977
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,880
like .03.
I was just like .08.

978
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,960
I believe in the States, those
.03, you can have like like a

979
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,000
sip of like a sip of beer, even
though I'm fine, You could drive

980
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,040
home, you get put over by JP
Japanese police and then they're

981
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,480
like, like, all right, Nope,
you're fucked, you're going to

982
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,320
jail.
And that's like a big another.

983
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,520
No, no, I guess obviously here
and there, but there's a lot

984
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,880
more strict.
They're really keen on like you

985
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,400
can't park in certain places,
you can't visit certain places,

986
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,240
like even if it's like there,
like if like it's on the side,

987
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,560
it's like a Rama shop on the
side.

988
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,000
You can like go and then they'll
be like they're like called the

989
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,160
JP on you to kick you out
because you're an American.

990
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,640
So there's like certain places
you can't go to the nightclubs,

991
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:26,040
you can't go to bars,
restaurants, because they they

992
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,280
say there's a lot of drug
affiliation or there's a lot of

993
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,960
like the, I guess, Yakuza owned.
OK, there's an exact list, but I

994
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,080
don't have it on me readily
available.

995
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,600
No, that's fine.
I appreciate you.

996
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,640
Look it up, you'll you'll see.
I was just curious if there was

997
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,000
anything that stood out that
obviously going and getting

998
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,240
hookers and not doing drugs,
that just makes sense.

999
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,560
You're not just a member of the
military, you're a Marine, for

1000
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,080
Christ's sake.
So I'm sure they want you to act

1001
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,760
like it, at least for the time
that you're a Marine.

1002
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,480
But knowing that all of that's
available, you might want to get

1003
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,320
back to Japan someday.
I know I would.

1004
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:13,200
So yeah, what as far as what was
your first impression of the

1005
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,280
people like the Japanese people
and how much encounter do you

1006
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,200
have with them on a day-to-day
basis?

1007
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Well.
They're very nice.

1008
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,400
I would say that they're very
respectful.

1009
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,280
That's what I hear a lot.
They try their best to

1010
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,120
understand you.
Some of them know English more

1011
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,000
than others.
Some of them know broken English

1012
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,040
or not English at all.
So us like knowing like the

1013
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,920
basic stuff like say excuse me,
you say like like hello or like

1014
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,240
be like you do like go to a
restaurant like on a daily

1015
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:46,600
basis.
I guess my friends like we like

1016
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,040
to go out and we like to go like
we like to go eat.

1017
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,720
So like if it's like a place
where they don't like speak

1018
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:53,760
English, you just kind of get a
menu and you point out what you

1019
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,440
want and you'd be like like 2
because like they understand

1020
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,920
like obviously numbers and shit.
So like we say you want like one

1021
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,480
like one through 5 or you want
like 6.

1022
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,400
You do this like 78910 like.
That's all.

1023
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,080
It's.
So you're basically.

1024
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,720
Yeah, it's not difficult.
Yeah.

1025
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,720
And pointing.
OK.

1026
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,520
You just point it and she like,
I want that and like, OK.

1027
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,120
That's awesome.
So I mean, it's easy.

1028
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,760
So you pretty you're you're
encountering every day like when

1029
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,000
you go out to eat and all that
kind of shit.

1030
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Yeah.
And they also work at the The

1031
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,280
Exchange on base like the like
our military or grocery store.

1032
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,560
We're at our commissary.
They're there in the Barber

1033
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,640
shops like every weekend we have
to go get a haircut before work

1034
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,720
and they're cutting our hair.
So it's like we interact with

1035
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:58,800
them quite frequently.
And the people that I know that

1036
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,240
have been there, and the podcast
that I've listened to with not

1037
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:07,600
only Japanese people but people
who have been to Japan, they all

1038
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,720
said the same thing you did.
That's why I didn't want to

1039
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,440
poison the well and I wanted
your opinion first.

1040
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,240
The first thing that people say
every time is that they are very

1041
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,080
nice people.
Like they go out of their way to

1042
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,160
be nice.
Almost like, you know, robotic

1043
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,120
kind of.
Yeah, and a little bit it's.

1044
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,920
Just that it's.
Kind of nice coming from America

1045
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,800
and like, right?
Yeah, because they're very like,

1046
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,520
it's a very respectful culture.
So it's like if they don't, if

1047
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,200
they aren't respectful or they
do some like outlandish stuff, I

1048
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,080
guess he wouldn't see like an
American here go out of the way

1049
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,040
to be like overly nice to
somebody, unless it's like their

1050
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,160
job, like depended on it, but
like they do it just out of like

1051
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,680
courtesy for how they were
raised.

1052
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,560
Correct.
So yeah, especially to

1053
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,840
Americans, because you know,
1945 type shit, so you know.

1054
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,240
Right.
That's a lot of forgiveness

1055
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:08,000
right there.
Right.

1056
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Yeah.
So OK, you're there.

1057
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:22,440
When did you start doing your
leg and how did this happen and?

1058
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,440
This.
Yeah, show everybody your leg

1059
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,600
first, since we're so make sure
we get a good shot of it because

1060
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,280
everybody wants to see the whole
thing.

1061
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,400
I'm trying to like.
Yeah, do whatever you got to do

1062
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,080
there, man, to get a good shot
of it.

1063
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,400
Let me put my glasses on so I
can see it too.

1064
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,800
So how do you hear me?
But it's like it goes all the

1065
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,840
way up here.
Can you put that light down,

1066
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Sir?
Or if?

1067
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:58,400
Like, yeah so shit.
So, so it's here just all the

1068
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:05,800
way up here and then it's like
almost inside goes up the back

1069
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:11,720
and there's like all these
different little designs and.

1070
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,640
So this is all one piece correct
technically.

1071
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,200
Maybe put?
That thing back up because it's

1072
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,040
the lighting color.
We're done.

1073
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,040
This is all one piece that.
Better so.

1074
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Yeah, it's a dragon.
Yeah.

1075
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:32,120
Holy shit, man.
That's all one big ass tattoo.

1076
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,600
First off, it's.
Fucking dad.

1077
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Send you a video.
First off, it's fucking

1078
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,400
beautiful.
It just that's why.

1079
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,240
That's why I wanted to make sure
we got a good shot of it,

1080
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,640
because it is fucking beautiful,
that is.

1081
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,760
That is talent in tattooing,
like Eddie Van Halen playing a

1082
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,720
guitar.
I mean, it's just to me, it's

1083
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,200
that level of just a little bit.
I saw it in the picture when you

1084
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,080
met your dad at the airport, I
was like, holy shit man, It's

1085
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,560
just and that wasn't even that
great a picture.

1086
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,440
But when I blew it up, I was
like, the detail is just

1087
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,120
incredible.
So walk me through how this all

1088
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,560
came down, What made you want to
do it?

1089
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Who did it?
Just lay it out where you

1090
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,640
started and how long all this
process took.

1091
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:32,560
Just fucking amazing.
OK, I still started out.

1092
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,600
I was on deployment, right,
We're on our we're on the way to

1093
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,920
Australia and there's a
corpsman, maybe Corman.

1094
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,800
He is in the same building as
me, in the same little space

1095
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,240
with our bunks.
And he has a, like, a, like

1096
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,000
tattoo.
I was like, I've always wanted

1097
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560
one that looks sick, like,
where'd you do it?

1098
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,600
He's like, oh, it's a guy named
Bushy.

1099
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,200
He has his own little private
studio over in American Village,

1100
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,120
which is like a, like, the
middle of the, I guess, like,

1101
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,160
the middle portion of the
island.

1102
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,480
So I was like, that's like,
that's great.

1103
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,760
Like, like, I really want one.
Like, you just, like, give me

1104
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,560
his Instagram.
Whatever.

1105
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,760
So deployment ends.
We come back to Okinawa.

1106
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,560
And I asked him like, hey, like,
what's what's his Instagram?

1107
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,400
So I can actually, like, I
actually like, text him.

1108
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,320
So I text him whenever he
responds.

1109
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Set up a consultation that next
day, That Monday we start.

1110
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,960
It was September, it was
September 11th and I immediately

1111
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,960
just started doing the outline
of the tattoo and it was a it

1112
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,600
was a really, really, really big
step because I was like, holy

1113
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,400
shit, like this is.
Crazy you drew this like.

1114
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,640
Like I sit on a box for an hour
and a half, you got a sharpie

1115
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,000
and you just start drawing it so
it's all freehand.

1116
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,120
OK, I'm with you.
Every single these here is hand

1117
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,600
drawn.
Damn.

1118
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,480
It explain how it's the.
Actual traditional.

1119
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Way I'm getting there.
He's getting there, yeah.

1120
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,960
Relax everyone.
And yeah, so, yeah, so, so the

1121
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,360
color.
So the color is all like right

1122
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,080
here.
It's all the traditional

1123
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,320
Japanese like stick and poke.
It's called Tabori.

1124
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,720
All right.
So all this color up here and

1125
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,720
then like.
So the red, the green.

1126
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,920
The the red, the green, the
yellow and the spikes still

1127
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,920
fitting the white.
Like like up here, like the

1128
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,920
mouth, like the horns.
The As far as like all of this,

1129
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,680
this all traditional like the
Japanese stick and poke.

1130
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,640
Damn it.
Just got poked with the needle

1131
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:42,720
for four hours at a time.
OK, so explain how that works,

1132
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,520
because I have no idea.
That's one thing I've never even

1133
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,320
seen heard of until your dad
told me that's how it was done.

1134
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,440
So explain what the ancient art
of tattooing is over there.

1135
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,680
Like how is it done?
Yeah, so so it's called Tabori,

1136
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,400
which I don't really know.
It's his English, right?

1137
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:07,880
But it's just the whole idea of
it is to have long lasting color

1138
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,880
in your tattoos because
obviously black is going to stay

1139
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,560
the longest like this is all
black these are I'll get into

1140
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,120
these later but these are all
black like my chest is done like

1141
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,080
black is a very like, it's just
it's just there right.

1142
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:26,760
So obviously like at times it'll
fade, but the this color is the

1143
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,480
needle goes in, like only goes
in so much when you do like the

1144
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,840
shading.
But with this, it's like the

1145
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,920
putting it like in like in your
skin, like it's like just like a

1146
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,680
wooden stick with a bunch of
needles and just like like going

1147
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:47,000
in and it's like it's crazy
because it it wouldn't like so

1148
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,600
deep that my body reacted to it
like it's like an open cut.

1149
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,360
So it started scabbing over.
OK, so for people who are

1150
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,480
regularly.
Push on the excess ink out.

1151
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,720
For people who are regularly
tattooed, how much further do

1152
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,640
those needles go in than
somebody who's just used to

1153
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:11,840
getting tattoos?
It's I'd say like twice as deep

1154
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,200
as three times as deep because
it's a little needle.

1155
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,960
I can't really put into
perspective of how like the

1156
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,840
tabori is, but like the the gun
is more like surface level.

1157
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,000
This one looks like you could.
I can feel it go in like go

1158
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,360
through my skin.
You can hear it.

1159
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,200
There's a video.
He'll probably say it to you

1160
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,120
later.
But you can hear just like like

1161
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,560
it's it just just it's not a
it's not a good sound.

1162
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,680
It's not a good feeling.
It looks great.

1163
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,880
I mean, you know.
It looks amazing and I guess

1164
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,600
that's why I wanted you to
explain it, because that's why

1165
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,800
your color looks so amazing.
Somebody else is never going to

1166
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,320
get that level of color, so
don't even try, is what I'm

1167
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,840
getting at.
That's why that looks so badass.

1168
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,440
Because the way they've done for
1000 years, probably 10,000

1169
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,160
years, who the fuck knows?
Yeah, probably a very, very long

1170
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,400
time.
Cuz.

1171
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,000
So typically they they would do
to boy for the entire thing, but

1172
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,080
he only did it for the colour.
Which I'm sure you were very

1173
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,280
happy about.
So how many hours of that

1174
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,520
process did you have versus
regular tattooing?

1175
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,560
So I would say that the color
was more of it was like the last

1176
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,240
like maybe three or four
sessions since he was like 12

1177
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,080
hours doing color and the rest
was like just doing like the

1178
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,120
outline and the shading, because
we did shading like different

1179
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,640
parts at a time.
Total for everything, it was 36

1180
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,120
hours.
It was 9 sessions, four hours

1181
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:57,600
each, you know, But like, I
don't know, man, it's just kind

1182
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,360
of, it's just kind of there.
Like I just like did like all

1183
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,920
the sessions.
I don't recall like the

1184
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,160
different little time frames of
each thing.

1185
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,120
It's just that it just took a
very long time and was very

1186
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,560
intricate.
Was there ever a time when you

1187
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,520
go for it?
Was there ever a time when you

1188
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,160
said enough, like you had to
just tap out or?

1189
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,520
Not during the session, but when
I would get back to my to my

1190
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,920
bearish room and I would like
I'd have to take a shower.

1191
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,120
It would just like I should be
like motherfucker, like what the

1192
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:39,560
fuck like why am I doing this?
Like there was a point where

1193
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,920
see, I'll get so this part in
the back, like right here

1194
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,880
because the spikes go directly
in the back to go over this part

1195
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,520
of the back of my knee, which.
That part.

1196
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,640
Fuck, I want to show you.
I just want to try to show this

1197
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,000
part right here.
So this at one point was rubbed

1198
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,600
so raw that like I was in like
the most pain and like at that

1199
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,080
time I had to do a little field
event for an entire day.

1200
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Oh no.
For Sergeant school, because

1201
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,920
it's like a AP, me had to do so.
I had to like get the little

1202
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,840
second skin.
Shit like the Sandoderm they did

1203
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,680
put on the back and I was like
walking with like a limp, like

1204
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,200
the whole the whole time I was
in that little field event.

1205
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:33,040
Oh, that sucks, man.
I look stupid walking, yeah, and

1206
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,240
thankfully it didn't ruin the
tattoo.

1207
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,000
It didn't scab over like as much
as I thought it would.

1208
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,760
Oh no, it's beautiful.
'Cause you didn't ruin it?

1209
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,960
Yeah, that was like the, I
guess, like the hardest thing I

1210
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,600
guess about it.
It was like my pants like rub a

1211
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,160
lot of work.
So it some parts scabbed over,

1212
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,120
but it's it's all good now.
Like this part was completely

1213
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,720
scabbed over at one point, but
it's good.

1214
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,120
I got your dad's perspective on
it and obviously he's your dad.

1215
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,400
He's totally cool.
So it was a totally cool

1216
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,560
perspective.
What was your mom's perspective?

1217
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:13,400
Yeah, she said.
Holy fuck like I sent her.

1218
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:20,640
It was like 2 days before I came
and I was like, I was like, hey

1219
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,400
dad, I got tattoo.
He's like, OK.

1220
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,760
I was like, I wanna see what it
is.

1221
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,880
He's like whatever man.
And I said that to him, he's

1222
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,600
like wow, epic.
I was like, all right and.

1223
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,320
Then, like I said, my mom, it's
totally cool.

1224
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,440
Because you think it's cool.
Yeah.

1225
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,160
And obviously, like, he has
tattoos.

1226
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,360
Like, my sister has tattoos, I
have tattoos, my mom has

1227
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,320
tattoos.
So it's like, obviously to I

1228
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,000
have the, I have the most in the
entire family.

1229
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,320
I have the most like, probably
the most random shit to like

1230
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,080
like anywhere.
And then there's a time where I

1231
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,680
got this one, there's before I
got this and these two right

1232
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,280
here she was like, all right
that's enough tattoos.

1233
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,360
You just slow down a bit.
I was like, OK, she was telling

1234
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,120
me that while I was in my
appointment, getting this one.

1235
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:08,360
So you know.
Oh, that's awesome.

1236
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,320
Yeah, I'm slowing down.
Yeah.

1237
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840
I promise I'll be done at least
with one leg, OK?

1238
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,240
Yeah, I'm done, Ma.
Nah, I have to get.

1239
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,560
I have to get these two right
here.

1240
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,360
I have to get two more.
I have to finish this one and

1241
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,000
then I have to get another one
or something like that.

1242
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,280
You're not going to do your
whole other leg, are you?

1243
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,720
Who knows what I'll do?
Absolutely not.

1244
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,920
No, I'll not do that again.
There's no way.

1245
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,640
So what do you got started on
your arm?

1246
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,680
You got like 1/2 sleeve going
there.

1247
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:50,320
Yeah, so before my first
appointment, I wanted to get

1248
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,960
like, like a like an arm tattoo
because I thought it'd be

1249
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,960
actually, like, really cool.
So it's just, it's all design.

1250
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,520
And I like the I like the way
the roses looked because I like,

1251
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,640
I like realism.
I get to this one, I get to this

1252
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,240
one a little bit.
But I like, I like realism.

1253
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,000
Yes.
So I got my grandfather's

1254
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,560
birthday, my dad's birthday and
my mom's birthday right here.

1255
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,520
And then I got my sister's
birthday, my oldest nephew,

1256
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Anthony, this is birthday.
And then I need to get trip his

1257
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,760
birthday done.
But it was before he was born.

1258
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,880
That's why I left the spot
empty.

1259
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,720
That's awesome.
And I need to figure out when

1260
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,640
I'm gonna get it because at the
time before he was born, I was

1261
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,720
like, I need to get this done
before my second deployment.

1262
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,920
My sister's like, oh, he's born
on this day.

1263
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,439
He's going to, he's going to
come this day.

1264
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,479
I was like, I didn't want to do
that because I don't want to get

1265
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,960
his birthday wrong if that were
like the case, you know?

1266
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,600
Yeah, that would suck.
Yeah.

1267
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:49,000
But it was cool.
So like these, the the roses are

1268
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,479
all stencil, but the leaves and
like the the thorns, like the

1269
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,760
vines, they're all they're all
freehand.

1270
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,200
That's really cool.
So it was a pretty good touch

1271
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,640
of, like, what he did.
And this is the same guy that

1272
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,319
did your leg.
So no different guy.

1273
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,800
Different guy, OK.
I got in Japan.

1274
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:16,000
In Japan I got 1/2 wait,
123-4567.

1275
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:20,520
I got 8 tattoos in Japan by a
whole bunch of different people.

1276
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,560
I just didn't have like an
actual guy I was going to.

1277
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,319
It's kind of like who was there?
Who's available, who can do a

1278
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:36,479
walk in, who's the cheapest?
So kind of just wait and who

1279
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,439
could who could do the tattoos?
Like right then and there.

1280
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,160
This one was obviously probably
with one guy who did this one,

1281
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,600
which I'll get into that in a
second.

1282
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,800
He it's like maybe 4 sessions
so.

1283
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,319
So.
Something like that I'm.

1284
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,479
Going to ask you two different
questions because one of them

1285
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,320
you don't have to answer.
The first one obviously is what

1286
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,600
everybody's going to ask what
did your whole leg cost?

1287
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,920
And if you don't want to say,
don't say.

1288
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,560
The second question is, would it
have been cheaper here or is it

1289
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,960
cheaper in Japan?
You can answer both or either I

1290
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
don't care or neither.
It's up to you.

1291
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:16,920
OK, I'll go to, I'll go to the
second one.

1292
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,320
I'll answer the second one.
So the thing with tattoos over

1293
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,000
there, sometimes they ask you to
pull out yen, which is way

1294
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,280
cheaper than the American
dollar.

1295
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,640
Yen is like 65 or $0.67 right
now to the American dollar.

1296
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,000
OK.
So all the other ones were like

1297
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,400
50,000 yen, ¥20,000 like these
two.

1298
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,800
I like, like I have these two.
These were like, Oh yeah, these

1299
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,600
two and then this one and then
this one right here was like

1300
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,240
super cheap because there's a
yen.

1301
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,800
So like they said, oh, it's like
¥7000, which is like I guess

1302
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,200
like $70.00 people would assume,
but it's like more like 40.

1303
01:10:58,440 --> 01:11:00,880
So that was like the cheapest
ones I guess.

1304
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,240
So this is the most most
expensive one and it's like 2

1305
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,080
grand I would say.
It's not as bad as I thought.

1306
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,920
About two grand.
I thought it would have been

1307
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,160
more, yeah.
Like people would people like,

1308
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,600
assume It's like, oh, that's so
expensive.

1309
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,440
You spent all your money.
I was like, no, I had

1310
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,400
appointments spaced out.
I did around paydays.

1311
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,880
I was smart with it.
Like, I got it done quickly

1312
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,560
because I'm going to do when I
came home, I didn't want to

1313
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,400
like, come with an unfinished
fucking tattoo because this is

1314
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,680
like the last thing I did and I
want this to be like white.

1315
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,280
When I came here, it would look
stupid.

1316
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,880
So I want to get it done as fast
as I could.

1317
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,960
Yeah, so.
And I guess part of my question

1318
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,560
is not really a valid question
because you could not have

1319
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,680
gotten that done here in the
United States because you had

1320
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,440
that special Japanese tattooing
done.

1321
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,880
Yeah, there's some people that
do like traditional stuff here,

1322
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,960
but it's not traditional.
No, not at all.

1323
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:05,480
It's not traditional.
Is he feeling left out?

1324
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:17,320
Yeah, kind of.
So at what point did you get, at

1325
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,720
what point did you get promoted
to your current rank?

1326
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,040
Because you're now a Sergeant,
correct?

1327
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,520
I was on deployment.
Yeah, I was on deployment.

1328
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,040
It was June 1st.
Technically it was like July

1329
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,600
10th because they didn't pin me,
but I was a Sergeant in the

1330
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,600
system as of June 1st.
I was getting paid as a surgeon

1331
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,120
for like a month and a half
before I was actually pinned on

1332
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,880
the rank.
Explained pinned on.

1333
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,480
Pinned on, you just get
promoted, they take your your

1334
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:49,880
current rank off and they put on
your new rank.

1335
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,280
So I was a corporal, they went
up.

1336
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:57,600
I said once a pinned, you know,
I said oh so and so came up and

1337
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,640
then they say oh like good job,
like good shit, whatever.

1338
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,920
And they just take your thing
off and they put it on and then

1339
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:05,880
you just kind of just call it a
day.

1340
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,040
Do they?
Do they do that in front of

1341
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,080
everybody?
Yeah, it's a whole formation.

1342
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,360
That's cool.
You have like either the

1343
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,280
Sergeant major in the CEO, they
come up like the rain to be

1344
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,280
promoted in center.
Do you think March, you go March

1345
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,040
up and then if you're wearing a
cover which when you're

1346
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,880
underway, which underway means
like you're currently sailing,

1347
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,440
you don't wear like cover.
Kids could fall off and get

1348
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:35,040
caught in the the propellers,
like in the bottom of the ship

1349
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,600
or like some mechanical stuff
because everything is like

1350
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,520
everything's got a purpose.
So if it gets caught in

1351
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,160
something, I think it's not
going to work.

1352
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,280
So typically you would you would
go up.

1353
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,040
You would salute them like
warnings or whatever.

1354
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:50,800
And then you go down.
They would read your.

1355
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,080
They would read the little
promotion warrant and they'd be

1356
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,920
like, she just presents
greetings know ye special trust,

1357
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,800
fidelity and the confidence and
abilities of Jacob D Dunham.

1358
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,600
I do appoint this Marina
Sergeant at the United States

1359
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,440
Marine Corps all that, all that
stuff.

1360
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,400
And then after they read that
they close it want to pin you so

1361
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:12,160
and so they come up salute say
hey, what's up, man and then not

1362
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,440
really like good morning, Sir.
And then they pin you on, give

1363
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,760
you some words of encouragement,
and then they'll let you go on

1364
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,040
your merry way after that.
So you said something very

1365
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,800
interesting that probably caught
a lot of people's ear that

1366
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,360
caught mine, that I know the
answer to this question, but you

1367
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,840
talk like you're in the Marines,
but you're on a ship and you're

1368
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,160
hanging out with the Navy.
So explain why you're on a ship

1369
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,720
and why you're hanging out with
the Navy.

1370
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,000
So we're on, we're on the ship,
we're on the USS New Orleans,

1371
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:50,720
we're on a patrol 23.2 to patrol
around Australia and kind of

1372
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,840
like patrol around to see if
there's any, like, real world

1373
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,960
conflicts that's going to go on.
So there's some shit I can't

1374
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,080
say.
There's some shit that I can't

1375
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,520
say because stuff.
Is.

1376
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:03,720
Gone down, obviously, that we
can't.

1377
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:10,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
So some stuff I can't say was

1378
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,800
that people have already know
there's a real world event in

1379
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,280
Papua New Guinea.
There's civil war all

1380
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,640
interrupted, so we had to go
directly support that.

1381
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,120
We had to fucking go over there
and like stay on the outskirt,

1382
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,760
make sure there's nobody like
like China or some shit like

1383
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,680
come up.
I see there we were in

1384
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,280
international waters.
We're over by the popular We

1385
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,440
were going down.
We didn't go to East China Sea

1386
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,920
because we had to go down, down,
downwards from it went to the

1387
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,560
Philippine Sea.
We're just kind of like sitting

1388
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,000
there, there's like a bunch of
Chinese cargo ships.

1389
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,720
There's a lot of like Chinese
trying to like, get into our,

1390
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,920
like, hack our phones and shit,
'cause people, somebody's done

1391
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,240
that.
There's a story where this dude

1392
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,480
connected to a Chinese ship,
which was like, they're trying

1393
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,520
to like they put up a fake
telephone, like like a cell

1394
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,840
tower, and he connected to it
and they stole all his money.

1395
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Damn.
So it's like, that's crazy.

1396
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,800
There's like people out there,
but you have to keep your phone

1397
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,120
on airplane mode and keep the
Bluetooth off while you're

1398
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:18,160
outside, which is actually like,
it's insane because they do that

1399
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,200
shit and people don't.
People don't like, understand

1400
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,960
that like how they're like
technological like capabilities

1401
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,280
that they do to like get into
your stuff and take it.

1402
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:28,880
So.
That's why.

1403
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:33,880
With that natural disaster going
on on the island, you guys are

1404
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,520
basically just making sure that
nobody comes in and takes

1405
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,520
advantage of people in their
time of need, yeah?

1406
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,680
Make sure nobody comes and fucks
with them.

1407
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,440
So like absolutely while while
we're out there supporting.

1408
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,080
So it's like we had one ship go
we had to drop off people and

1409
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,520
they went around and they came.
They circled back around while

1410
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,080
we were on the outskirts just
trying to make sure it seems

1411
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,880
like it's like I guess multiple
walls.

1412
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,600
We had three ships.
It was like what going this way,

1413
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
one go this way, one coming back
this way just to make sure

1414
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,320
there's like nothing like in
between.

1415
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,600
So it was like a full, I guess,
like security detail to make

1416
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:16,640
sure that nobody like sneaks up,
I guess kind of like make sure

1417
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,040
and make sure everything's good.
And you guys, are you guys are

1418
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:25,440
deployed with the Navy as part
of their infantry or you are

1419
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,800
their infantry or how does that
work?

1420
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,680
You know, the Marine Corps
always travels with the.

1421
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:37,200
Navy, so the Marine Corps.
So obviously they have people

1422
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:45,800
who do like combat related jobs,
but they also have units from

1423
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,440
stateside deployed to Japan to
go on the ships.

1424
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,040
It's OK.
There are real real world events

1425
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:58,320
or if they have to like
basically get boots on the

1426
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:05,000
ground, which it's hardly the
case nowadays, they yeah, they

1427
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,800
just go on the ship.
Obviously there's like people

1428
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,280
who do like the C Rams, there's
like the big like super like

1429
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,880
huge ass, like like the turrets
that shoot like 1000 rounds a

1430
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,880
second or something like that or
some crazy shit like that.

1431
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,160
Now, how big is the ship?
There's.

1432
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,960
A lot of like, I guess like
security forces.

1433
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,000
Like what it was, What class
ship is it?

1434
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,040
A lot of air.
It was LPD 18.

1435
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,080
It was more like a I'm look that
up real quick.

1436
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,960
So I don't know what LPD
actually is.

1437
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,360
LPD.
Is it one of these shelters?

1438
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,680
Was a.
No, go ahead.

1439
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,840
Who's this?
Who's that?

1440
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,440
There's a amphibious landing
ship.

1441
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,080
OK.
All right.

1442
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,800
It's kind of hard to see I.
No, I I saw it.

1443
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,400
Yeah, you got it all there.
Good.

1444
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,720
It's very, yeah.
It's very hard to like.

1445
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,680
The perspective is kind of very
hard to like describe, but it

1446
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,920
was.
Like an it's not an exam.

1447
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:12,080
There was 2 aircraft, so it's
huge, but like it's not like

1448
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,640
aircraft carrier huge.
That's what I would, yeah.

1449
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,680
OK.
That's what I was saying.

1450
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,160
Yeah.
It's a even think of like ships

1451
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,760
like Navy ships.
Like, oh, aircraft carriers and

1452
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,200
destroyers, but there's like,
yeah, there's like like like

1453
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,200
1000 people living on it.
Right.

1454
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,760
That's one of the different
levels of, like how many people

1455
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,160
are captured.
There's like hundreds of trucks

1456
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,760
close to 1000.
I'm not sure like how much

1457
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,840
there's like the Navy crew.
There's the Marines.

1458
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,720
We actually had Germans and
Japanese live on the ship with

1459
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,200
us too, so.
That gives people a good idea.

1460
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,880
That's why we.
Play every night, stuff like

1461
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,160
that.
All the howitzers, all the

1462
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:58,080
trucks, all the trailers, all
the weapons that we had, like

1463
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,440
it's a it's pretty, it's pretty
damn big ship.

1464
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,520
I just hear guys say, you know,
I was on a ship for a month and

1465
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,400
I never, you know, you know, you
don't see but the people that

1466
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,080
you work with every day.
And it's hard to believe that

1467
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,560
you're on a boat and you don't
run across everyone, but it's

1468
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,440
hard to believe how big these
boats are.

1469
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:18,560
I guess that's what I'm getting
at.

1470
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,800
You can get very you can go very
lost very easily.

1471
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,280
You don't know your way around
the ship.

1472
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:31,040
If you know the basic stuff, you
can know where the gyms are in

1473
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,920
the mess deck and the flight
deck you're good, And where you

1474
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,280
sleep, you're good.
So you don't ever get like

1475
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,680
nobody ever gets seasick on a
boat that big, do they?

1476
01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:45,000
Oh, they do.
They do.

1477
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,840
Trust me they do like I was
second appointment.

1478
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,720
Yeah we're some guy was on his
first appointment.

1479
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,640
I was on his second one because
I'm already used to it.

1480
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:54,920
He was coming back in the he's a
chick.

1481
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,720
He was like a mess deck worker
mess hall, the chow hall.

1482
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,360
So he was coming in and we're
just like, we're all shooting

1483
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,800
the shit.
It's like 9:00, and we're just

1484
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,760
like, we can't sleep, 'cause
we're like, it's like rocking

1485
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,760
really hard right now.
But like, we're good cause been

1486
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,320
there, done that.
And he just throws up

1487
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:17,000
everywhere, all over the floor,
and we're and we're just like,

1488
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,560
'cause he was one of the PBS.
She's like, hey, Clet, just get

1489
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,480
in the fucking bathroom.
We're just like, just like, tell

1490
01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:24,480
him.
Just like, go throw open a

1491
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:30,080
toilet.
I asked that question because

1492
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,920
that would be me.
I went deep sea fishing with my

1493
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:38,400
dad exactly one time and he has
sympathy on me because we did

1494
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,600
get stuck at the back of the
boat and it was like 90° and

1495
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,320
100% humidity and there was no
air movement and the diesel

1496
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,880
fumes to this day, dude, I
cannot stomach diesel fumes

1497
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,760
because of that day.
But I got super seasick and

1498
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,080
being that far out in the ocean
and, you know, it was terrible.

1499
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,640
So I didn't know if you would
get seasick on a boat that big

1500
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,160
or not.
I would be that guy.

1501
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,120
Yeah, it's pretty.
Yeah, it's it's pretty.

1502
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,880
It's pretty common People do if
you're not used to it, but if

1503
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,320
you that knows a lot of people
that's like their 5th or 6th

1504
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,520
like deployment.
So they're very used to the way

1505
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,120
the whole the ship operates and
it how it works.

1506
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Yeah.
So like now you would go out

1507
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,640
there?
Dramamine or something like

1508
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,120
that.
Dramamine.

1509
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,960
Oh yeah, I'd be.
I'd be 100%, yeah.

1510
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,080
That stuff like though, you take
in, you know, get seasick as

1511
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,520
easily.
Yeah.

1512
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,040
I think if I want another one,
I'd be fine.

1513
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,640
But I'm very good of not going
on another one.

1514
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,320
I do not want to go on a ship
ever again.

1515
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:43,680
So.
Fuck that.

1516
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,680
So what is?
What's the future hold for you?

1517
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,480
You're home for how long?
And then you go back to Japan.

1518
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,520
Yeah, so I'm home for another, I
think 2 1/2 weeks go home.

1519
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:04,560
I go back, fly out January 11th,
go back to Japan for 2 1/2

1520
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,600
months.
And then I mentioned earlier

1521
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,720
about the drill instructors, I'm
going to go to drill instructor

1522
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:15,280
school in April 10th, so I can
become one of them and go with

1523
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,080
the recruits and stuff like
that.

1524
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,000
So that's like my next my next
little thing in life that I'm

1525
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,480
doing and.
You're going to, you're going to

1526
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,800
remember, because all the drill
instructors that had sympathy on

1527
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,400
you and you're going to have
sympathy on those poor new

1528
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,000
Marines that are coming in,
right?

1529
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,960
You're going to be nice drill
instructor, Jake.

1530
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,560
Absolutely not.
That's not right.

1531
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,360
They're all dying.
I guarantee that they will all

1532
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,160
die.
I like that answer.

1533
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:51,760
I believe you 100% too.
I know your dad, Yeah.

1534
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,760
One thing for certain, when he
says he's going to do something,

1535
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:04,480
he does it.
Oh yeah, Like can't tell him

1536
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,440
otherwise.
Like he's if he's like, I'm

1537
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,000
going to go yada yada like
that's really random.

1538
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,560
He just goes and does it.
So I was going to already.

1539
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:17,240
Get my little spontaneous.
Yes, that's another reason I

1540
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,480
wanted to do this with him,
because a lot of people will

1541
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:24,200
tell you they're going to do
something and then you wait,

1542
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,440
like patience on a monument.
When he tells you he's going to

1543
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:34,120
do something about a day, a
minute, an hour, whatever, your

1544
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,800
phone will blow up and it'll be
like, hey dude, I did this, this

1545
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,600
and this, and here's when we
start.

1546
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:39,960
That's kind of how this all
started.

1547
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,120
So it's one thing to say you're
going to do.

1548
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,120
It it's another thing.
To go do it, you know, So that's

1549
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,200
another reason you're here.
You didn't just say you were

1550
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,600
going to be a Marine.
You went and did it, and you

1551
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,040
just told your whole story from
beginning to end.

1552
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,560
And I totally appreciate it.
Dude, I'm.

1553
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,360
I'm honored that you would come
on here and do it.

1554
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,920
I know that seems crazy, but I
admire anybody that has done

1555
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,520
something that I've never done
and I find it fascinating, so I

1556
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,920
appreciate you.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course.

1557
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,080
He asked me last week.
He was like, do you want to do

1558
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:18,920
this?
Because I thought, I thought my

1559
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,240
dad was saying he didn't want to
get tattoos.

1560
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,000
And I was like, I was like,
sure.

1561
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,600
I was like, OK, I didn't read
it, but it said you want to.

1562
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,720
It said you want to go with me
to go get tattoos.

1563
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,000
And I was like, OK, that's fine,
Cool.

1564
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,160
And he starts saying, like, not
yes or no.

1565
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,640
So we read it.
It's like, do you want to go on

1566
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,320
a podcast with me talking about
your tattoos?

1567
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,600
And I was like, oh shit, yeah,
like, sure, like that's fine.

1568
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:46,400
And as it comes down so.
That's awesome, man.

1569
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,360
Here we are.
So what are some of the other

1570
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,280
ones that you have?
Like you told me, you're going

1571
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,000
to What are some of the other
tattoos that you have that have

1572
01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:00,240
meaning to you?
So I guess they all do in a way.

1573
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,360
I got this one.
This is the this is the first

1574
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,120
one I got in Japan.
I just thought it looked cool.

1575
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,120
There's a it's called like a
Laurel wreath or something.

1576
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,880
It's like some Greek shit.
It does look.

1577
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,960
Yeah, it looks.
Very cool.

1578
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,240
Looks like a slot machine I
play.

1579
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:24,560
Yeah, this is this.
This is on the back of John

1580
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,040
Wick's back.
This on John.

1581
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,640
Yeah, John Wick's back In the
movie, Fortune favors the the

1582
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,160
Bold or Brave or something like
that.

1583
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,560
Yeah, this one I want to get on
my back, but I have like my

1584
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,200
entire back.
But I have one right here of a

1585
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,480
Lily.
It's for my mom.

1586
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,680
That's her flower.
So that was the 2nd tattoo I

1587
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,600
actually got.
So I thought it was.

1588
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,680
I thought it was pretty cool.
So I was, I was going through

1589
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,720
like some shit in like early
2021 and I was just like, I need

1590
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:58,320
to get something.
And I mean, what else to do?

1591
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,920
And then get something for my
for my mom.

1592
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:02,520
So this one right here.
This one's for my dad.

1593
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:09,080
This one.
Yeah, that this, this is for my

1594
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,240
dad.
It's, it's an Italian.

1595
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,440
It says on the master, my fate.
I'm the captain of my soul.

1596
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,160
It's a thing he had a recite
when he did like this.

1597
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,720
Dad, that's awesome.
God, come here.

1598
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:31,240
That's awesome.
What was that one thing for you

1599
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,040
to like either recite that
VICTUS thing?

1600
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,280
Wake up, warrior.
Yeah, that thing he was saying,

1601
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,080
he had to recite this.
He had to recite this.

1602
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,400
So like the I got the ending and
I thought it was actually really

1603
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,640
cool.
So I was like, oh, I just was

1604
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,320
good as a fucking tattoo.
Very.

1605
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,800
Cool.
I thought it like, that was

1606
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,880
pretty cool.
Yeah, that thing.

1607
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:54,560
And I got this one.
This is my 3rd tattoo I got.

1608
01:27:55,000 --> 01:28:00,280
It spreads up my entire
shoulder, so it's just a line.

1609
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,400
That's awesome.
Yeah, the detail.

1610
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,840
Amazing.
Yeah, the detail in that is

1611
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:10,560
amazing, dude.
The whole Yeah, it is.

1612
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,920
So how old were you when you got
your first tattoo?

1613
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:22,120
Sorry, I was 19.
OK, so you you wait until you

1614
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,680
were illegal.
Yeah, it was 123.

1615
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,240
Yeah.
Well, I was planning to get

1616
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,200
tattoos for like a while.
And then like, I was like, oh, I

1617
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,480
want a tattoo.
Like, that'd be cool.

1618
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:37,920
And so I drove down to the
Valley Gate, 'cause I was in

1619
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,600
Yuma, and then I drove down.
And then my dad set up an

1620
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,280
appointment for me to get my
tattoo.

1621
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:44,640
That's his word right there,
yeah.

1622
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,320
But I have one.
Yeah, I have one right here.

1623
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:51,240
It's an umbrella.
So it's funny.

1624
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,600
People like, I need a fucking
umbrella.

1625
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,880
And it's like, it's like an
umbrella with, like, yeah, with

1626
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,640
like a raindrops in it.
So I was in Osaka, right?

1627
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,880
That's in mainland Japan.
Yeah.

1628
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,400
So we're in Osaka and it's like,
it's raining.

1629
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,920
It's super stormy.
We're just like, this is

1630
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,640
miserable, but we're just having
fun.

1631
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,920
So, you know, buddy, we had
umbrellas.

1632
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:19,000
We're walking, right?
So I I don't smoke like, I

1633
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,920
don't.
He he like, he like used to

1634
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,160
smoke cigarettes.
So like, we're just walking in

1635
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,880
his umbrella.
He's got a cigarette holding it

1636
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,840
and he has a coffee.
So we're walking down to go to

1637
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,280
this building.
Like it's really this big.

1638
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,480
Like it's like the you made a
sky building.

1639
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,640
It's like one of those like it's
like super famous things where

1640
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,960
you can see like lookout.
Sorry, my sister's trying to

1641
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,720
call me.
You just like, look at shit and

1642
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,760
it's like you see the whole
skyline of Osaka, which is,

1643
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,000
which is cool, That's awesome.
So we're going there.

1644
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:50,840
And then he, he actually tips
his umbrella, it goes inverted

1645
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,160
and he drops a cigarette and he
spills his coffee on himself.

1646
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,200
And I thought she was really
funny.

1647
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,400
So I was like, how many tattoos
of that?

1648
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:58,560
Because that's just fucking
funny.

1649
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,680
That's awesome.
So there's a story behind it

1650
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:02,760
that.
Means something to me.

1651
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,200
That makes you laugh when you
see it.

1652
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,400
Yeah, that's awesome.
I love it.

1653
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,760
Yeah, because he has it on his.
He has it on his arm.

1654
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,840
He has an umbrella with rain
under it and got holding a

1655
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,800
cigarette so.
Sweet man.

1656
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,920
That's totally cool.
It's pretty cool one, Yeah.

1657
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,320
And then what's that?
So that I have these ones.

1658
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,960
So it's obviously the state of
Arizona.

1659
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,000
It's my favorite place in the
world.

1660
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:34,200
So, you know, I had to get it.
It's one of my favorite places

1661
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:39,400
to.
Well, has to be.

1662
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,760
It's a spider.
I just got it one day.

1663
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,040
I was DD ING and everybody
wanted tattoos and I was like,

1664
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,360
OK, so I got this spider tattoo
and it was like 20 bucks.

1665
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,120
That's the only one I can't have
because I got arachnophobia.

1666
01:30:53,800 --> 01:31:00,080
I'd look down at my leg every
time and go, oh, I'd be smacking

1667
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:05,760
my fucking leg all the time.
This one, this is the the

1668
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,920
Northern the Nautical Star.
It means that you went on a

1669
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,040
deployment and you came back
'cause you knew like where like

1670
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,680
the the Northern Star was type
thing, like a sailor, the

1671
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:19,960
sailors tattoo.
So.

1672
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,880
That's got the God brother Trey.
Yeah.

1673
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,720
So it's specific to sailors.
But when you're on like your

1674
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,080
deployment, you you rate certain
tattoos like I'm gonna get 2

1675
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,120
going down here.
They're called, it's like

1676
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,560
sparrows, but they call them
swallows.

1677
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,800
And it's like if you get one of
them, it means you traveled 5000

1678
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,840
nautical miles, you can get
another one, which you traveled

1679
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,680
another 5000.
So you can only you only rate 2.

1680
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,880
So you can you can only tattoo
only two on your body.

1681
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:52,520
OK.
So by two deployments combined,

1682
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,600
I went like 15 to 20,000
nautical miles.

1683
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,200
So I rate them.
So I'm going to get them because

1684
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,280
they look.
So now going forward.

1685
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,000
Have like an actual like.
So now going forward, when you

1686
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,680
see somebody else with those
same tattoos, you know exactly

1687
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,360
what that person did, what they
mean.

1688
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:11,960
See, I would never know what any
of that shit.

1689
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,000
Yeah, that's awesome, dude.
Now we all know what it means.

1690
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,840
I.
Think well if or if it's.

1691
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:18,880
A.
Yeah.

1692
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,080
Or if it's some fucking some
weird ass like 19 year old like

1693
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,040
college student with like a
Sparrow tattoo.

1694
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,520
I'm like, dude, I'm like,
obviously I'm not one to like.

1695
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,160
It'd be like, oh, you can't get
the tattoo.

1696
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,720
But I'm just like, well, did you
really know like what it means

1697
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,520
type thing?
Like, obviously I have random

1698
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,520
ass tattoos, but they all, like,
mean something to me.

1699
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,360
Correct.
Yeah, like, you know, so if I

1700
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,200
see like a Sparrow tattoo or I
see like a the nautical star,

1701
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,720
I'm like, oh, it's pretty cool.
But I was like, you're obviously

1702
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,840
way too young to even, like do
any of the stuff.

1703
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,960
So I was like, but do we just
own?

1704
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,400
I mean, you can get how the fuck
you want your body.

1705
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,280
I don't care.
No, I know where you're coming.

1706
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,000
From To me it means.
It means certain things.

1707
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,520
Yeah, I don't think anybody.
There's plenty of shit to put on

1708
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,240
your body.
You should never put something

1709
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:04,920
on there.
Like I would never tattoo that

1710
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,520
star you have on your leg on my
body, because I haven't done

1711
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,280
that.
It doesn't.

1712
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,720
It wouldn't mean something to me
and and it should offend

1713
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,960
somebody like you.
That's what I'm getting that I

1714
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,120
know that, you know, in your
heart of hearts you'd be

1715
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,240
offended, but you wouldn't say
that to that person.

1716
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,040
But it should be offensive to
somebody when they haven't.

1717
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,160
Right now.
You haven't earned that, you

1718
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:29,160
know.
I'm a very like, nonchalant

1719
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,240
person.
Like, I don't, I'm not really

1720
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,960
out there to be.
Like, I don't call people out

1721
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,680
because I don't.
I'm not like afraid of

1722
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,320
confrontation type thing, but
I'm like.

1723
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,520
We have that in common.
If you're like doing some shit

1724
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:45,360
and I'm like, I'm just like, I
kind of stay in my own lane, I'm

1725
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,280
just not your thing.
I don't care.

1726
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,400
But if it directly involves me,
then then we're going to have a

1727
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,680
problem.
So it's like, you know?

1728
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:57,280
You and I are 110% on the same
page because I always tell

1729
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:01,280
people, as long as you don't
care what I'm doing, I don't

1730
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,440
give a shit what you you're
doing at all.

1731
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,680
But as soon as you feel like you
need to interject yourself into

1732
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,040
my life, we're going to have a
fucking problem.

1733
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,440
Because, you know, just like you
and your dad and anybody that

1734
01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:19,760
knows us on a core level, you're
going to go real deep with us.

1735
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,080
So, you know, careful how much
you care about what we're doing,

1736
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:27,760
is what I'm getting at.
Like we're going to, we're going

1737
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,600
to dissect your life down to the
fucking bone, man.

1738
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,080
Like, let me tell you, like.
You are not safe.

1739
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,480
Yeah, let me tell you a couple
things about you that you don't

1740
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:40,720
know.
That's what I like to say.

1741
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:51,520
Yeah, no, exactly.
The last one I guess I have is

1742
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,920
this one.
It's in kanji.

1743
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,920
It's a it's.
I'm guessing.

1744
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,040
I got it one day.
I was like, fuck it.

1745
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,080
I mean it.
Yeah.

1746
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:03,680
So it's it's the Japanese
language.

1747
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,360
It's, it's kanji.
And it's, it's a really fucking

1748
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,640
stupid tattoo.
But I thought it was funny, so I

1749
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,920
got it, 'cause I was like on
something.

1750
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,640
It's like Japanese before I got
this one.

1751
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,400
So I got, I got.
Well, because of what it what it

1752
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,960
means.
I got this one a whole year

1753
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,440
before I got this one, and it
means even monkeys fall from

1754
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:24,200
trees.
I guess there's like some

1755
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,160
meaning behind it, but it's like
a pretty dumb, a dumb saying I

1756
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,560
guess.
It's still fucking funny.

1757
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,360
I don't give a shit.
Because it's like.

1758
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,240
You got so OK, so you got a
little humor on your body.

1759
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,960
There's nothing wrong with that.
Made me laugh.

1760
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,800
Yeah.
And like in like Japanese, the

1761
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,120
Japanese culture, I guess it's
like that's their saying of

1762
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,200
like, I guess it transit to
English is like even though you

1763
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,960
fall, you fail at something like
you're struggling to get back up

1764
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,720
and do that same thing.
Like if you like, say like in

1765
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,920
the gym for example, you fail a
lift, you're going to get up the

1766
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,320
next morning, you go try the
lift again, like the monkeys

1767
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:01,640
always going to get back in the
fucking tree.

1768
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:06,720
So like so I guess that's like
AI guess I have a personal thing

1769
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,640
that I would, I would say I
relate to it.

1770
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,680
So it's kind of why I got it.
All of them have something and

1771
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,480
like have a meaning, but others
it's just like either funny or I

1772
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:20,000
don't know why the fuck I got
it, or it's just I don't know,

1773
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,120
but they're all part of me and
they all suit me so.

1774
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,920
That's awesome.
I I really enjoy.

1775
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,680
I very much enjoy getting
tattoos.

1776
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:31,240
I very much enjoy like looking,
looking like I have, like a

1777
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:35,280
story, I guess, 'cause every
tattoo has its own time frame,

1778
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,320
its own story, its own meaning,
so.

1779
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,280
And that's why.
Use of tattoos to see people

1780
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,240
getting so.
That's why I wanted you to show

1781
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:50,520
them off #1 and I wanted you to
explain why you got them and

1782
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,600
what they mean to you.
Just so you know, there's people

1783
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,200
that would look at you, that
don't know you, that wouldn't

1784
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,120
talk to you because you have
tattoos still to this day, You

1785
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:04,760
know, so this podcast is going
to be out there for Infinity

1786
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,480
now, and people are going to be
listening to it 10 years from

1787
01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:11,400
now and they're going to see you
and understand that not only are

1788
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,880
you an upstanding citizen,
you're a member of the military

1789
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,440
and that having tattoos have
nothing to do with who you are

1790
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,880
as a person, you know.
Yeah.

1791
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,320
Some of the most wanted.
To get this one because I got to

1792
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:29,600
be fucking funny in the same
spot my dad's tattoo.

1793
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,160
Why didn't he Says Iron Dog?
Yes.

1794
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,040
I mean, because it's not, I'm
not Iron Dog.

1795
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:37,720
I thought I'd be fucking funny
if I did.

1796
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,960
Yeah, I could do that.
But it's like I put like right

1797
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,320
here.
You could.

1798
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,000
You could get another funny
tattoo.

1799
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,240
You could be the iron puppy.
That's bad.

1800
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,440
That's something my dad would
say.

1801
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,760
The iron puppy, he said.
The iron puppy.

1802
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,120
Tell him that something my dad
would say.

1803
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:58,920
He's like, he's like that would
he's like, that would be

1804
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,040
something my dad would say,
yeah.

1805
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,280
It's really.
Yeah.

1806
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:03,880
Get, get.
I'm the Iron Dog.

1807
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:08,520
Get yourself the Iron Puppy.
Your dad has still not figured

1808
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:13,200
out that I named his podcast
network the Iron Dog Podcast

1809
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,240
Network.
That's the Easter egg he still

1810
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,960
has never found to this day.
So we'll see if he actually

1811
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,600
listens to this podcast and
calls me out on it.

1812
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,480
If if you go to Spotify, is
that.

1813
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,160
What it's called?
Yeah, if you go to Spotify like

1814
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,440
our homepage, it says the Chris
and Mike Show and underneath it,

1815
01:38:30,440 --> 01:38:35,680
it says Iron Dog Podcast Network
because it made me choose a

1816
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,480
business.
He's never noticed it.

1817
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,400
No, I told him.
I said.

1818
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:40,840
Dude, there's an Easter egg out
there and.

1819
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,000
He's like, don't don't tell me.
Don't tell me so we'll see if he

1820
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,240
actually listens to this podcast
because he tells me that he

1821
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,120
started listening.
Yes.

1822
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:49,800
He actually listens to this
podcast.

1823
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,480
Well, yeah, let's see if he
listens Podcast.

1824
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:55,760
You're going to be like, what
the fuck?

1825
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,440
I can say what it is, but you
can be like, really?

1826
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:00,360
Because it's just, it's just
there.

1827
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,160
He's like, what the hell?
It's right out there.

1828
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,160
Well, he didn't actually start
listening until.

1829
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,000
About like listening to it to an
hour and a half.

1830
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:13,240
Yeah, he started about two weeks
ago because I guilted him into

1831
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:18,680
it.
Not that you should sit around

1832
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,120
and listen to yourself talk, I
guess.

1833
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,120
I just, I was like, have you
ever actually sat down and

1834
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:23,840
listened to it?
He said, yeah, listen to the

1835
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,560
last episode.
I I laughed.

1836
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:33,920
It was really fun.
So yeah, I used to have used to

1837
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,160
make YouTube videos.
He used to like, rewatch them.

1838
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,400
And I'd be, I'd be kind of funny
because when I was in high

1839
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,960
school, maybe like, I was really
like that, like out there.

1840
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,360
Oh yeah, it's hilarious to go
back and watch, like videos when

1841
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,760
him and I were in the band.
Some of it's great, but some of

1842
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,920
it's like, you know, now that
you've matured, you just kind of

1843
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,160
laugh at yourself.
It's like, man, you can see how

1844
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,120
rushed everything was.
And now I'm all your playing

1845
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,800
just gets better and better and
you've learned to control the

1846
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,720
song and the tempo.
And that's all stuff we had

1847
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,040
problems with back in the day
because we were young, you know?

1848
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,240
But we've made some damn good
music.

1849
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,120
Yeah, that's what he that's what
he was telling me.

1850
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:22,240
I've never actually listened to
Y'all's stuff, but I mean, I

1851
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:29,240
don't You like CDs and shit?
No, we never recorded what we

1852
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,480
had.
Mike had it, but then he had a

1853
01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:39,840
situation where his roommate
destroyed everything.

1854
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,440
You know he destroyed
everything.

1855
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,720
Oh yeah, Kevin, It's a horrible.
It's a horrible story.

1856
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,080
We won't go down that road, but
yeah, I lost a lot of shit.

1857
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,240
I was very thankful I had a
folder left.

1858
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,320
So I do have some pictures and
stuff, but as far as music goes,

1859
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:03,320
I lost a lot of shit.
It's sad, but you know what?

1860
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,640
I looked at it as the same way I
cleaned house and the rest of my

1861
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,440
life.
I just started over writing new

1862
01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:11,000
stuff and it's better than the
old stuff.

1863
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:12,600
You just got to look at it that
way.

1864
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:16,520
That's all good.
I'm sitting here talking to you

1865
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,560
and I wouldn't be doing that had
I not made the choices I made in

1866
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,440
life.
So just to lose a couple things.

1867
01:41:21,440 --> 01:41:23,840
You learn that things are
material, You know, like

1868
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,560
materialistic things don't mean
shit.

1869
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,000
I don't care if somebody's got a
60,000 square foot house or they

1870
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,640
live in a bus.
How they treat me is how I look

1871
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,880
at life.
So, as sad as it was, it's all

1872
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:43,240
good.
Yeah, As I say, everything

1873
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,240
happens for a reason.
So you can't really get like,

1874
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,240
you'd be like, Oh well, I mean,
it happened.

1875
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:49,160
It's over.
It's whatever.

1876
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,320
Yeah.
Like with all the shit I've done

1877
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,600
in the past year, like it's at,
it's over.

1878
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,560
It's whatever.
And if you, dude, if you keep

1879
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,560
that attitude at 22 years old,
you you got life by the balls,

1880
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,080
man.
For the rest of your life you

1881
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,800
will own your life.
Just always keep that same

1882
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,880
attitude.
Because it took me 37 years to

1883
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,800
figure out what you already know
at 22.

1884
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,760
Go with the flow.
It took me a while, though it

1885
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,320
didn't.
Take you as long as it took me.

1886
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:22,600
I was stubborn.
Like, I'm stubborn too, but it

1887
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:26,760
took me after I got like had
like a really bad added, like a

1888
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:32,400
really bad breakup like in 21.
Fucking women.

1889
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,160
I was destroyed.
Like, I was just like, this is

1890
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,600
this sucks.
Like super attached.

1891
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:41,680
I was like, super, still super
attached.

1892
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:47,120
So afterwards I was just like,
fuck it, who cares?

1893
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,400
And I just kind of became
happier at that point.

1894
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,600
There's a point where I didn't
eat for like an entire week and

1895
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:59,840
I got like extremely, extremely
skinny and it's bad.

1896
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,480
I mean, I wasn't like, I looked,
I looked great, just like.

1897
01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:05,160
I mean, I looked like decent
Jakes, like I was like Rip.

1898
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:10,080
Then yeah, I was.
No, I'm not anymore.

1899
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:15,840
I was ripped, but I was sad.
But you know, because I like, I

1900
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,560
mean, I like Japanese food way
too much.

1901
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,960
So, you know, it's kind of.
They do have amazing food.

1902
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:26,640
It's.
Kind of, especially over there.

1903
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,400
Like it's it's pretty tasty
stuff, but I'm starting to get

1904
01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:32,720
like like a healthier weight
back and.

1905
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,440
I actually just hadn't done it.
I actually just had Japanese for

1906
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:40,560
the first time probably two
years ago here, obviously, but

1907
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,080
one of my one of my friends took
me to a restaurant up in

1908
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,040
Michigan and it was really good.
I was skeptical going in there

1909
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,480
because I had never had it.
But man, I left being a huge fan

1910
01:43:51,480 --> 01:43:53,560
of their food.
I see why you say that.

1911
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,400
It's all fresh and amazing.
Yeah, it's it's pretty tasty

1912
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,640
stuff.
Yeah.

1913
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,720
I don't like sushi though.
There's nothing I don't like.

1914
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,240
I've never had sushi.
That's just weird.

1915
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,360
Yeah, I'm with you.
See, we agree on a lot of stuff.

1916
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,480
This all worked out very well.
You and I are kindred spirit in

1917
01:44:09,480 --> 01:44:11,360
a lot of way.
That's just fucking weird.

1918
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,280
Other people like it.
That's great.

1919
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,920
You.
Either I'm just like him but

1920
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:20,800
like and let him be like what,
31 years younger?

1921
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,520
53, you're 22.
Yeah, 30.

1922
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:29,480
Like about 3131 years younger.
It is kind of odd because

1923
01:44:29,480 --> 01:44:32,520
talking to you is very much like
talking to the 22 year old

1924
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,960
version of him.
I remember him at 22 or 23.

1925
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,720
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

1926
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,000
That's about when we met.
Because I was only like 20.

1927
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:42,720
I don't.
I wasn't even old enough to get

1928
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,080
in the bar when we started the
band.

1929
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,600
I moved to Phoenix when I was
19.

1930
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,600
I met.
I met him when I was 20 or 21.

1931
01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:54,160
Yeah.
So he was 23?

1932
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:55,400
Maybe?
Yeah.

1933
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:57,840
He's always been the same
person.

1934
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:04,240
OK Oh, yeah, yeah, that's what
you're telling me.

1935
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,000
He'd be like telling like stuff
like him, like high school with

1936
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,240
like, well, I call my uncle, but
Todd.

1937
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,480
Oh yeah, he came to all.
OK, yeah, cool.

1938
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:16,600
So, oh, really?
Came to all you guys's shows.

1939
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,200
Oh, what the hell?
Yeah.

1940
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,080
So, like, I call him my uncle.
He's like the closest thing I

1941
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,960
have to one.
Yeah, he videotaped a lot of our

1942
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,160
one in.
Pennsylvania because he's not

1943
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,360
really my uncle.
Yeah, what a homie.

1944
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,240
Really videotaped.
Like a lot of y'all shows.

1945
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,120
Yeah, see, see.
Back in the day, I was supposed.

1946
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,680
To hang out with him, I think in
a couple days.

1947
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,840
Back in the day, Jake, we had to
have this thing.

1948
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:43,000
Your dad was like the fucking
bomb diggity back in the day.

1949
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,000
Because he had a fucking
camcorder.

1950
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,240
No, nobody had cell phones, you
know?

1951
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,080
And there, what if you had a
camcorder?

1952
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:55,440
You were like upper echelon
because they were expensive and

1953
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:58,600
not very many people had one.
So it was a big deal for us to

1954
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,480
be able to record our shows.
I know that seems silly to

1955
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,440
people nowadays.
Because I go back to the fact.

1956
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:09,400
Use their cell phone, but back
then that wasn't an option.

1957
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,000
There was no one on that.
They just do this.

1958
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,320
They just do this and just,
like, upload it.

1959
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:19,000
Yeah.
And now I did, I did have like

1960
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,360
a, like a a camera and a
camcorder back in the day.

1961
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,840
You know, like, I, you know, I
wasn't always like, with this.

1962
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,240
And I had like my own little
camera.

1963
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,960
I had my own little, like, my
little, like handheld little,

1964
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,480
like, little Sony.
That's awesome.

1965
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,400
So I feel like him and I are a
lot of the same because we like

1966
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,640
to be like out there, like on
camera and like talking and

1967
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,680
stuff.
And that's where I kind of got

1968
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:42,000
like all of my confidence to go
like actually upload shit and

1969
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,600
like just really just not care
what like people think about

1970
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,480
like stuff I upload.
Yeah.

1971
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,040
So he now he gave me like once I
get out in 27, like I'm I am,

1972
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,600
yeah.
Like whenever I get out of the

1973
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,320
military in 27 HS every just go
like, I don't care.

1974
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:03,640
That's awesome.
It's just milk backtrack.

1975
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,120
The military is great and all,
but I'm ready to get I'm I'm

1976
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:08,560
done.
I'm, I'm good.

1977
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:14,000
So the grass is not greener
getting all the shit paid for.

1978
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,080
I'm going to.
It's not.

1979
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,960
I'm going to let you tell
everybody where you're going

1980
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,720
next and I got to piss like a
racehorse.

1981
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,160
I'll be back in 30 seconds.
Tell everybody you're going to

1982
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:28,760
wherever, OK?
I'll be right back.

1983
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:31,800
OK.
All right.

1984
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:36,200
Sounds good.
All right, well, people, now I'm

1985
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:41,080
by myself.
April, April 10th.

1986
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:46,200
Ticketed Trail Inspector School
San Diego graduate July 3rd and

1987
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:50,960
after that I stay in San Diego
for three years.

1988
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,800
So like from like think July and
until July of like 27.

1989
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,280
July of 24.
I go to, I go to, I graduate.

1990
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,480
Shall I have 27?
Three years I will be over

1991
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:05,320
there.
So yeah, but I need it.

1992
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,760
I need to say a text real quick
because I have been leaving, so

1993
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,600
I haven't talked to anybody in
two hours.

1994
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:18,840
Yeah, yeah.
But like, Seth, really special.

1995
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,560
It's just just going, I'm just
going to this one thing and

1996
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,400
doing this thing for three years
and then done.

1997
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:34,120
Welcome.
Back a beer and a water and I

1998
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,520
was like, I think your dad and I
made it to an hour and 19

1999
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:47,120
minutes one time.
Yeah, I've had an energy drink

2000
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,680
and a Gatorade, so you know, I'm
waiting for him to come back in.

2001
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,480
I I routinely listen.
So I got to go to the gym.

2002
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,320
OK, I routine.
I routinely listen to Joe Rogan

2003
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,240
and he'll do like 3 or 4 hour
podcasts.

2004
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,240
But those guys will like, you
know, there's two or three of

2005
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,080
them there and they'll just play
off each other and somebody's

2006
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,840
like, hey, talk for a second.
I got to go to the bathroom.

2007
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:14,600
So I just stole that from them.
Yeah, look here to entertain

2008
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,680
everybody for a second because
believe it or not, they're

2009
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,520
diligent.
What do I want to call them?

2010
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,640
Subscribers who listen every
Monday morning and Wednesday

2011
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:30,120
morning and whenever they do.
But there's a lot of people

2012
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,240
looking forward to this
particular episode because the

2013
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,240
girls think you're cute and the
guys want to know about your

2014
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,160
tattoo.
So it was a win win.

2015
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,440
That's good.
Everybody that I showed your

2016
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,560
picture to, all the girls were
like, Oh my God, he's so cute.

2017
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,120
And all the guys were like, I
got to know about that fucking

2018
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:57,600
tattoo.
So we're going to get everybody

2019
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,920
to tune in and check it out.
Get the numbers of like.

2020
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:06,320
Some of the ladies.
Slide slide it my way, Yeah.

2021
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,200
Unfortunately, they're probably
closer to my age, Jake, and I'm

2022
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,080
not sure you'd want to go down
that road.

2023
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,280
You never know.
You never know.

2024
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,200
Yeah, it's it's, it's quite all
right.

2025
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,560
I I kind of like the older.
Ladies.

2026
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:27,520
Quite all right.
Your dad would remember.

2027
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,160
Your dad would remember when I
dated Tammy and she was probably

2028
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,000
15 years older than me at the
time.

2029
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:36,240
She must have been, like 37.
So, yeah, I guess I like the

2030
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:37,920
older ladies myself back now.
Yeah.

2031
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:47,920
Yeah.
I think as of recently for the

2032
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,200
last two years, I haven't been,
I haven't dated anybody so.

2033
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,360
You haven't thought about
hooking up with any of the.

2034
01:50:53,360 --> 01:51:00,840
That's my last one.
No, it's not your point, man.

2035
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:09,920
It's just kind of no, I'm just
kind of just kind of here, just

2036
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,680
kind of just do my own thing.
I don't want to get like

2037
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,000
distractions from like stuff I
want to do.

2038
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:20,600
So I think it would be better if
I was just like this to myself

2039
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,000
because I know mistake, you
know, mistakes happen.

2040
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,280
I don't want a certain mistake
to happen where I'm just like

2041
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,120
why everything I'm trying to do,
I can't do anymore.

2042
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:34,360
So.
Once again, you have no idea.

2043
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,480
You're you're just living my
life all over again.

2044
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,480
That's exactly what I did when I
was your age.

2045
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:42,320
I was not interested in having
kids or getting married, and I

2046
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:43,960
made sure I didn't make that
mistake.

2047
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,880
I pretty much just stayed
focused on, focused on being a

2048
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,400
guitar player and putting a band
together and getting signed to a

2049
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:55,080
record label and to do that.
I didn't have time to do all

2050
01:51:55,080 --> 01:52:00,160
those other things.
So you're smart for having that

2051
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,520
mindset.
I had the exact same mindset,

2052
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,400
and that's one thing that I'm
proud of myself.

2053
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,040
I didn't bring any kids into
this world that I didn't want,

2054
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,520
and I've done exactly what I
wanted to do pretty much every

2055
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:14,360
day of my life.
So I don't have a lot of regrets

2056
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,440
in that department, and I don't
think you will either.

2057
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:29,040
Yeah, I just try my best to just
do stuff is because I can't

2058
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,400
while I'm while I'm young,
before I get into anything, so.

2059
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,800
Well, I know you got to get out
of here, buddy and go to the

2060
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,800
gym.
I totally appreciate you doing

2061
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,440
this.
It's been my honor.

2062
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:44,040
Thank you for your service.
I know I speak for everybody

2063
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:48,920
when when I say that everyone
totally appreciates everything

2064
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,080
you're doing for our country.
And stay safe out there and

2065
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:53,520
you're welcome back here
anytime.

2066
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,480
And keep listening to all the
different places you go, so I

2067
01:52:56,480 --> 01:52:59,960
get more countries, pop up on my
statistics.

2068
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,040
Tell all your buddies who are
deployed in different.

2069
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,200
Countries at this point.
Do you have friends that are

2070
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,120
deployed elsewhere?
Tell them to start listening.

2071
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,920
Yeah, I got people in Australia,
yeah, And Germany right now, so.

2072
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,360
Hook us up, man.
Be sure to let them know.

2073
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:21,840
Yeah, definitely.
Give us a shout out around the

2074
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,080
world, man.
Get us started.

2075
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,080
Well, thanks again for coming
on, Jake.

2076
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,000
It's been an honor to meet you.
Yeah, of.

2077
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:33,520
Course.
A lot of people don't know I've

2078
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,080
never met Jake.
This is the first time I've ever

2079
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,240
met him.
He was not born when Nemesis was

2080
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:42,240
playing out and doing our thing.
So this was this was our first

2081
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,520
meeting and it felt like I've
known you for 100 years.

2082
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:49,680
So thank you again and turn it
over to your dad so you can go

2083
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:54,240
to the gym and stay buff, man.
All right.

2084
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,360
Sounds good.
Well, it's nice to meet you,

2085
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:57,600
Mike.
Appreciate you too, brother.

2086
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:59,080
Take care.
Happy New Year.

2087
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:08,600
Why the?
Headphones are so warm.

2088
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,440
I know.
Well, he's been wearing them for

2089
01:54:12,440 --> 01:54:15,920
a while.
I know.

2090
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,440
I prepared for this man, you
leave.

2091
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:20,760
It.
To my son.

2092
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,120
Oh yeah, leave it to my.
Son.

2093
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,640
Oh, ye of little faith that I
would not have a bunch of

2094
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,120
questions prepared, Chris.
Ladies and gentlemen, Chris was

2095
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:33,320
like, he cannot possibly have
any kind of questions prepared.

2096
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,160
He probably went out there and
smoked to Mary Jane, and he's

2097
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,320
just sitting there going, I
don't know what to say.

2098
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:42,840
I had my shit together, man.
I think that would be fantastic.

2099
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:47,800
Interview I never.
I never had a single doubt my

2100
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,520
friend dude.
I was just surprised that he you

2101
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,400
had him engaged as long as you
did.

2102
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:56,280
I had him from the very first
question, he said.

2103
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,880
Wow, that's a really good
question.

2104
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,400
Sounds like I prepared for this,
Jake.

2105
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,600
Good job.
He did amazing.

2106
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:09,080
He's he's a fine representation
of everything.

2107
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,600
You'll block.
For an apparent, oh 100%.

2108
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,360
He was a pleasure to talk to you
and he was very articulate and I

2109
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:20,560
think people are going to enjoy
his adventure from being a High

2110
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,960
School graduate to where he's
currently going today.

2111
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,960
He had to cover my ass while I
went and took a piss.

2112
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,360
So I said tell people about
where you're going in San Diego,

2113
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:27,800
please.
That's.

2114
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:35,280
That's that's awesome.
So thank you for you.

2115
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:39,960
I know you didn't allow him to
do it, but thank you for loaning

2116
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:44,400
us Jake, and it was everything I
hope for and more.

2117
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:49,960
It was way more than I expected.
So ladies and gentlemen.

2118
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,520
We wrap it all up now with the.
Yeah, Chris of the Chris and

2119
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,280
Mike Show is actually back on
the show.

2120
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,040
Welcome back.
We're going to get him a better

2121
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,680
set up so he can have multiple
people at the same time.

2122
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,000
I will just send you mine when I
get my new set up.

2123
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:14,120
That'll give me a reason to
upgrade sooner because I got

2124
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,600
some plans for bigger.
And well done.

2125
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:20,000
So do you want to wrap things?
OK, so you want to wrap it up

2126
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,880
with our Top 11 reasons to
subscribe to our podcast?

2127
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,200
Yes Sir, I have my list ready
all.

2128
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:32,080
Right, so so he has your list,
and so you you get the fact that

2129
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:36,920
you're the bold numbers, right?
I am the bold numbers, ladies

2130
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,840
and gentlemen, yes.
You are the bold numbers.

2131
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:45,800
So again, yeah, this this is,
this is one of those little

2132
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,160
weekly things we're going to do.
We're always going to have the

2133
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:52,800
top 11 reasons for something,
and today's is the top 11

2134
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:56,520
reasons to actually subscribe to
our podcast #11.

2135
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:03,800
And why is it the top 11?
Because musicians turning up a

2136
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,600
notch.
Correct.

2137
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:10,800
This is Spinal Tap #11 because
we asked you to.

2138
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,120
Right.
I think that's that's very just

2139
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,640
direct number 10, because it's
always on a Tuesday and we love

2140
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:21,640
Taco.
Tuesday.

2141
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:28,600
We do love Taco Tuesday, and
just just a little ad Lib here.

2142
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,840
I'm very depressed because my
current, my current Mexican

2143
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:34,840
joint is closed until January
9th.

2144
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,760
Bummed out #9.
Wow.

2145
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:45,200
Because we have guests come on
the show, sometimes we hope to

2146
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,480
have more, but yes.
Right, Yeah.

2147
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:53,280
Like we had an inanimate, an
inanimate object guest last

2148
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:54,960
week, which was cardboard cut
out Jake.

2149
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:59,800
And then we actually delivered
the living, breathing, human

2150
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,040
being.
Cardboard cut out Jake.

2151
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:07,240
We did live on the podcast.
Slash slash the cardboard right

2152
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:14,440
live on the podcast #8 because
Mike wanted to have a podcast.

2153
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,680
Fair enough.
I would probably add in there

2154
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:26,720
that because Mike wanted to get
paid to have a podcast, but

2155
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:28,600
yeah.
Right.

2156
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:35,240
And #7 coincides with #8 because
Chris agreed to be part of the

2157
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:40,800
podcast and what Chris does
succeeds, so we should probably

2158
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:47,880
succeed well.
Hopefully, hopefully, number

2159
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:52,360
six, and I'm doing this because
he's to the right of me, because

2160
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:56,240
he's Mike Michaels.
And because he's Chris Dunham,

2161
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:07,000
he's to the right of me.
Right number #4 because well, he

2162
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,120
left.
He left, he's, he's Jacob

2163
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:12,320
Dunham, the visitor.
But he's he's he's he's left us

2164
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:13,080
now.
I think he's.

2165
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:17,920
Elvis has left the building.
Work out Elvis has left like you

2166
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:22,080
like very much.
Because neither of us have been

2167
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:27,800
in prison is #3.
The true story, although that

2168
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,680
would be a whole new podcast in
itself.

2169
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,760
Chris and Mike show Behind
Prison or Behind Bars.

2170
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,440
Yeah, let's hope we.
Don't so so we could we could we

2171
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,840
could go get well we'd have to
we'd have to get ourselves

2172
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,280
arrested and then make it to
prison and.

2173
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,520
That sounds.
Like a lot of lobby, the warden

2174
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,080
and such to allow us to have a
podcast and then we could have,

2175
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:53,560
you know, a podcast inside the
prison walls.

2176
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,240
You know, we should look that up
and see if somebody's done that.

2177
01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,560
That would be interesting.
I would be I.

2178
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:01,840
That sounds like.
Be interested in that.

2179
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,040
Then we can have them on our
show via Zoom.

2180
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,440
It does, but I can Google it.
I'll Google it.

2181
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:12,320
Number two of the top 11 reasons
to just to subscribe to our

2182
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,920
podcast is because we both have
day jobs.

2183
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:20,560
Yeah, but I'm sure he likes his.
But I I could give the worst at

2184
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:25,040
any time and not be unhappy.
Yeah, yeah.

2185
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:28,840
So the more subscribers we get,
then the more followers we get,

2186
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:33,440
which then it takes Mike's
podcast target to the whole next

2187
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:35,480
level.
So we're almost there.

2188
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:37,160
We have 200.
We need 1000.

2189
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:41,440
That's our target, right?
Well, to get the caliber of

2190
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,600
guests that we would need to
have the kind of subscribers

2191
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,000
that we would need to actually
get paid to not have to work,

2192
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,960
we're a ways away.
But yeah, I'd be happy with 1000

2193
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,560
and we're at 33.
So if you are a Facebook

2194
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:58,440
follower and you are not a
Spotify follower, even if that's

2195
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:02,600
not where you listen to it, do
me a favor, download Spotify,

2196
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,120
click the follow button.
Because eventually that's the

2197
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:10,240
only place we're going to be.
So we would like to be exclusive

2198
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:16,440
to one spot eventually, years
down the road.

2199
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:21,760
Don't panic everybody, I know a
lot of people like Apple. 10% of

2200
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:26,520
our listenership is on.
Apple and the number one Nice.

2201
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,840
And the number one reason to
subscribe to our podcast is

2202
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,960
because.
We're just really cool people

2203
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:40,240
and it'll be fun, yes.
Right.

2204
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:42,840
We are really cool people and
we'll be fun.

2205
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:48,680
And it's already fun, I think.
I think it's already fun, you

2206
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:50,320
know?
Jake said we were fun.

2207
02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:54,960
It'll be interesting to see what
Jake What what Right on it'll be

2208
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,440
listen to what he what he talks
about.

2209
02:01:58,120 --> 02:01:59,720
Yeah, I listen.
To the show, I asked him that

2210
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:01,560
question.
I said, what did you think?

2211
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,120
Be honest.
I said, you can be brutal.

2212
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,680
I can take it.
He was not brutal at all.

2213
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,160
He was very honest.
Yeah.

2214
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,320
How crazy is it that you wore
the ACDC?

2215
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,920
Shirt, I heard part.
Of the up on shirt.

2216
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:18,320
Well, I did it because it has.
It's America, you know, kind of

2217
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,160
Marine Corps vibe.
America.

2218
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:25,440
And then, yeah, ACDC, three
chords in the truth and and the

2219
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:30,680
mighty, mighty Sep.
There it is.

2220
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:32,440
All right.
So did you have a good

2221
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:34,680
Christmas?
It was amazing.

2222
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,800
Yes, yourself.
Right on.

2223
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:41,360
Yeah, no complaints, man.
The little man's first true year

2224
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:45,400
of understanding the whole
Christmas magic, which was fun

2225
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,760
you know trip trip.
His little brothers just turned

2226
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:50,600
6 months old.
So he's kind of getting that

2227
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:52,480
fun.
He's such a little happy baby

2228
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,320
too, dude.
He he just, he watches, he

2229
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,040
watches little man like a hawk.
Like no matter what little man's

2230
02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,800
doing, man, his eyes are just
he's going to like little man's

2231
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:07,120
going to be his hero forever.
Just he's so and so he's so

2232
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:08,960
captivated by whatever little
man does.

2233
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,440
It's it's cool watching him in
the same room because he can.

2234
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,800
One of us has to be holding
Trip, obviously.

2235
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,720
And he's just his head's on a
swivel, man.

2236
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,120
Just where's little man at?
Where's little man at?

2237
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:20,960
And little Man's really good
with him, you know, which is

2238
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,440
cool.
So there's that age gap that you

2239
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,720
kind of worry about for 3 1/2
years.

2240
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:28,320
But he's cool, man.
He's good with him.

2241
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,440
He's.
He's embracing being the Big

2242
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:31,240
Brother.
It's fun.

2243
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,000
It was fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2244
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:38,000
And then Nikki's dad's flying in
tomorrow, so I don't, I don't

2245
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:39,880
think I'd get him on the show.
But you never know.

2246
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:41,800
He's a Marine too.
He's a Marine Corps veteran.

2247
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,200
He was a coal miner.
He ran his own trucking business

2248
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,400
out of New York.
He's he reminds me the the the

2249
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:51,560
best way to explain George is
he's he's he's he's a Joe Pesci

2250
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:53,280
like you.
Remember Joe Pesci?

2251
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:56,560
From Goodfellas.
That's the kind of, yeah, yeah.

2252
02:03:56,840 --> 02:04:01,520
Not, not as, not as short as Joe
and you know, but yeah.

2253
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,120
Well, here's the deal.
I don't go back to work till

2254
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:08,760
January 2nd, so if he would
possibly do that, all you got to

2255
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:12,440
do is call me up, man.
I'm free until next Tuesday, OK?

2256
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:15,600
I have nothing going on him.
The only day that I'm going to

2257
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:19,400
be gone is tomorrow.
Right on, OK.

2258
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:21,680
So Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday, Monday.

2259
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:25,200
I'm free this week.
That sounds amazing.

2260
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,640
I love people like that Joe
Pesci characters.

2261
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:30,160
Yeah, he's cool, man.
He's a good dude.

2262
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,320
He's a good guy.
We'll say something to him and

2263
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,760
then we could put one in the can
and if we ever needed a week

2264
02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:40,880
off, we could drop that episode.
Yeah.

2265
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:43,800
We probably shouldn't be telling
everybody our plans to follow.

2266
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:48,080
And if not, we just we we
shouldn't tell anybody that

2267
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:50,680
stuff.
You know what you just heard?

2268
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:53,560
Yeah, forget.
What rewind?

2269
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:59,280
It's like when you're sitting on
a tree and they say disregard

2270
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,040
everything you just heard for
the last 15 fucking minutes.

2271
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:04,680
That always makes me laugh,
right?

2272
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:06,120
How am I supposed to do?
Right, right.

2273
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,280
Because you can't just, you
can't unhear it like Nikki and I

2274
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:12,040
are watching Suits.
We're like in the 6th, 6th

2275
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,920
season.
Out of. 9 total.

2276
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:16,520
And there's some of that.
Yeah, right.

2277
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:19,640
It's where it's where it's
episode 11, Season six.

2278
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:24,200
So Jessica just left.
OK, she just left the, you know,

2279
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,360
the the forum.
So that's where I'm at.

2280
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,080
You know.
I think some of it's kind of,

2281
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,560
you know, a stretch, but it's a
good show, man.

2282
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:34,400
I yeah.
It's fiction, Chris.

2283
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,560
It's fiction.
You got to just roll with it.

2284
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:39,360
Oh, that's true.
That's true.

2285
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,360
You know, we got to do one at
one time.

2286
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:45,440
We need to, we need to have a
show.

2287
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:47,680
I, I, I, I'm going to save this
for the next show.

2288
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:49,760
This is a teaser next show we're
going to talk about.

2289
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:57,840
This is a teaser.
Folks, next show we're going to

2290
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,000
talk about.
We're going to talk next show,

2291
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,880
we're going to talk about this.
And the reason we're going to

2292
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,240
talk about this is that.
I can't see that I.

2293
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,840
Connected.
It's my book.

2294
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:15,160
Oh.
The one you're supposed to send

2295
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:16,760
me a copy of?
Yeah, now I see it.

2296
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:20,200
Yeah.
Yes, yes, I'll get you a couple.

2297
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:26,040
We're going to talk about the
the this because Charles AKA

2298
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:30,960
Chuck, his wife couldn't sleep
and googled him and lo and

2299
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:34,480
behold this popped up.
So we'll save that for next

2300
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:39,000
episode story.
Oh, I like teasers tomorrow, all

2301
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:39,280
right.
I.

2302
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:41,840
Don't know.
Mom's here at some burger place

2303
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,280
today, but I can't do it today.
I always think because we talked

2304
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:46,280
about stuff earlier.
I don't know what he's talking

2305
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,640
about because I have influence.
I was.

2306
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:50,400
I was thinking about taking you
to 5th St.

2307
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,800
Burger who's?
Your tomorrow Grandpa.

2308
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:54,640
You take OK, Why?
Yeah.

2309
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:56,360
I want 5th St.
Burger.

2310
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:56,840
Yeah.
Bye.

2311
02:06:58,280 --> 02:06:59,760
Bye, bye, Jake.
Thank you again.

2312
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:00,320
I'm.
On a plane?

2313
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,200
I've never been there before.
What?

2314
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,320
I I yelled when I was you.
Could hear me.

2315
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:09,120
When I was doing some, I know
when I was doing some photo

2316
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:13,920
snagging and video stuff I had,
I posted up on Instagram, which

2317
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:15,800
you got to turn your Instagram
into the show.

2318
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,200
You need to just make an
Instagram because I can't

2319
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:19,280
figure.
That it came across.

2320
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,880
Just make one.
It came across my feed.

2321
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:26,240
Well, I don't want to make one
attached to mine, so we'll make

2322
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:29,920
one attached to yours because
mine already has one attached to

2323
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:31,240
it.
And then I got hacked.

2324
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,720
Yeah.
Mine was hacked and I don't.

2325
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:36,720
So good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2326
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:38,680
Yeah.
So my personal one.

2327
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,920
And then I had good news Arizona
when I was doing that show.

2328
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,440
But then I got hacked one day
and because good news, Arizona

2329
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,920
was caricatures of Dean and I
are not the caricatures.

2330
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,440
The emojis, the bobblehead
emojis that you find on Apple

2331
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,800
phones.
I never got it back.

2332
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:56,760
I got mine back because my face
confused with mine.

2333
02:07:57,040 --> 02:07:58,120
And now I'm.
I'm not.

2334
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:00,880
Right.
Right.

2335
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,640
Right.
So if you want to add 1 to your

2336
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,120
Instagram then we can.
OK, I know what you're asking me

2337
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:09,040
to do now.
I did.

2338
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:10,360
I don't want to muck up my
system.

2339
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:11,800
I don't want to muck up my
waters because.

2340
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,440
Right, Yeah.
So add that and you can use our

2341
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,640
our logo we created as the
profile and then you can you can

2342
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,200
drop stuff on that thing like
crazy.

2343
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:25,000
Well, I'll give it to you
because you know, you do that

2344
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:26,760
more than I do.
I just want to make sure you

2345
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:32,280
have access to the social media
because you're way more, you're

2346
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,160
way more.
Present is the word I'm looking

2347
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:36,080
for present on the social media
that I am.

2348
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:39,000
I'm getting better.
Yeah.

2349
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:40,600
Yeah, you are.
And you are.

2350
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:42,320
Yeah.
Thank you to everyone who's

2351
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:45,640
followed the Facebook page.
Like I said, those followers

2352
02:08:45,640 --> 02:08:48,120
need to go over to Spotify and
click that follow button.

2353
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:50,560
Quite a few have, but not nearly
enough.

2354
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:56,280
Where one we're 190 something on
Facebook and we're 35 on

2355
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:58,600
Spotify.
There's a disparate in the

2356
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,960
disparity in the numbers.
Maybe I'll make OK.

2357
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,200
Maybe we'll make a video and
I'll show them how to do it.

2358
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:09,040
Yeah, maybe some people need
some instructional video.

2359
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,360
That would be great.
And you know, one thing we need

2360
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:15,160
on our Facebook page?
We need some guidance.

2361
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:19,080
We need to do a reel.
You need a reel to graduate to

2362
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,520
Level 3.
I did.

2363
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:23,000
I did read that.
OK.

2364
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,400
I can do that.
I know you know how to do

2365
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:26,120
reading.
I can do that.

2366
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,240
I'll work on that.
Yeah, that's the only thing you

2367
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:31,800
need for that, and I'm sure
people would enjoy it.

2368
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:36,920
OK, well, all right, cool.
So let's sign off on this, and

2369
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:40,440
then you're going to show me how
to make all this stuff usable on

2370
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:44,120
a daily basis.
Yes, OK.

2371
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:46,840
So ladies and.
Gentlemen, we talked about that

2372
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:48,800
before.
Yes, yeah, I got it, ladies and

2373
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,600
gentlemen.
Thank you for tuning in.

2374
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:55,400
We never did say this is episode
#9.

2375
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:02,960
This is season one, Episode 9,
the United States themed show.

2376
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:08,000
Thus Lady Liberty.
I feel like we should have

2377
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,960
Whitney Houston singing the
National anthem now.

2378
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:17,520
Oh, she can you she.
I can't even get our own music

2379
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:20,280
to.
Play again.

2380
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,440
I apologize ladies and.
Gentlemen, Yeah, it's OK.

2381
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:29,240
Just just know that I'm American
through and through until next

2382
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:30,840
week.
See ya.

2383
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:13,760
The None.