#95 - Rock Royalty, Sobriety, & First Class Stories

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What's up there, boys and girls?
What's up, ladies and gentlemen?

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It's.
Chris, Mike.

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Chills.
It's Chris Mike's show.

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He's Chris.
I'm Mike.

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Hey, not really.
That would be crazy to take on

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each other's persona for a day.
I don't think I could do.

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That there was a there's a song
you could.

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There's a song, it's a Van Halen
song with the Hagar.

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Era.
One of my favorite ones.

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Fuck, what the fuck?
I guess it called humans.

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No, not humans being what the
fuck.

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There's a line in it that that
talks about.

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Fuck this.
Is it from that era?

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It is from Sammy's era.
Me wise, Oh no, that was.

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Not me wise magic, that's David
Lee Roth.

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But it's there's a line it's I
listen to it all the time, which

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is irritating.
I can't remember the name of it,

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but there's a line where if you
and I.

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Were to switch places for a day,
would would you be satisfied or

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something?
It's really, really fucking

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cool, right?
Now, oh, now you got.

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Now I can hear him singing it,
you and I.

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Yeah, if I were you.
And you were right.

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What the fuck is that song, man?
God Dang it.

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Or if you were me, I can I can
hear the cadence of how he.

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Sings.
I know, I know.

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Absolutely, absolutely, man.
Where's, where's the fucking

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cancel called Van Halen?
One of Eddie's finer guitar

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moments too.
And that what?

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That's a deep Van Halen.
Cut that.

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Wasn't.
Yeah, yeah, it's that's why I

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liked it.
Because it's not too.

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It's not.
It's not one of the ones that's

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played all the time.
Black and blue.

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Panama feels so good.
Duh, duh, duh.

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I bet it's on like the Balance
album.

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Oh, that probably could be.
Hold on.

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Because that was one That was my
favorite Sammy era Van Halen

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album for sure.
Balance had a lot of tension to

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it.
You could feel that there were

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things not right in the band,
but damn did it make for some

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good songs.
Feeling feeling.

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Yes.
Fucking great song.

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Oh man, that that just gives me
chills now.

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Great song, I like it because of
feeling lyrics.

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See if you can find that on
YouTube and just play a little

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bit of it.
OK, so here's the line though

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if.
If I were you, if, if I were

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you, if you were me.
I wonder who I'd want to be.

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Right.
If.

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I that's it.
If you were me, I wonder who I'd

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want to be.
Yes, listen.

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That is so man, I haven't heard
that song in a long time.

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It's on my, it's on my thing,
man.

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So how do I do this?
Share.

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So go down to the bottom where
it says share and share your

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screen.
Yep.

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Yep, it doesn't have a video,
That's all right.

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Yeah.
Out of touch most of the time.

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Donald Align.
A little bit.

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Of my mind.
Kicking.

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Down the way it starts.
There you go, it's.

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The hardest thing oh grow it
alone, shave it all life is

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hard, another song I need a
change I need it quick before it

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makes me sick is.
This her last album.

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That's what's on my my hand.
It was.

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Now pay attention, watch your
back, pay your dues and stay on

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track.
Got no room to second guess.

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Puts me on distress.
Oh if I were you, if you were

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me.
Wonder who I don't want to be

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with?
Just one wish you can't refuse.

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I wouldn't know what to do.
A little breakdown.

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That's awesome.
I like the B side.

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Stuff I don't.
I like the commercial stuff,

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right?
But I I like a lot.

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Of the the stuff.
Say that statement again because

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I don't know if anybody heard
that.

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OK, I said.
I I like the.

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The the the.
Obscure B side stuff.

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I don't.
I mean, I like the commercial

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stuff they release, but the
stuff that's kind of just lost

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in the system right on the album
itself that they don't ever push

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out, they're hidden gems.
Like, that's a really fucking

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good song if you've never if
you've never listened.

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To it go.
Tired of that one out?

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Yeah, just just go listen to
balance on a loan.

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The balance.
The balance.

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Out the whole album.
Is is fucking outstanding

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balance.
Let's just drop the entire

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album.
Let's see what they have.

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The whole fucking stupid thing.
Well, I heard one on the way

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home actually came up on my
playlist, The 7th Seal, which is

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the first song on that album.
Yep.

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So there.
Don't tell me what love can do.

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That was a great rhythm.
Fuck yeah, can't stop loving

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you.
Amsterdam song for sure.

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Amsterdam's a great song.
So 7th.

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Seal Not Enough is another great
love song.

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Doing time.
Not really a love song, actually

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it's.
Well don't.

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You can't stop loving you.
Very emotional and don't tell me

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what love can do I both.
Love songs, for sure.

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Amsterdam's about partying
stronger.

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That's about partying, right?
Take me.

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No, I was talking about not
enough.

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I'm looking.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.

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OK, yeah, not.
Dude, that song's another one

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that it's just got incredible
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Yeah, this, this has, oh, it has
lyrics on there.

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Is it playing?
Yeah.

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OK, it starts off real soft.
Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah, that yeah, that is a
fucking good song.

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That's the beautiful thing about
music, man.

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I like one of the.
Videos about somebody to love

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somebody faith free to love
somebody equally.

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It's not in love, it's not in
love.

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It's not in love to love
somebody secret.

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That's cool.
Pause it real quick.

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So I was working with this dude
about two weeks ago and he likes

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to talk music.
He's a huge fan and, you know,

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he's thinks it's cool that I was
a musician.

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And we talk about songwriting
and he says, where do you, how

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do you know where to put?
You know, you were orchestrating

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where it was going to be before
it happened, right?

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Because as a songwriter, you
feel that space and time that

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you don't want to fill as a lead
singer, but you want to fill as

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a songwriter, right?
So now I'm going to put in my

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background vocals.
Yeah.

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And you just see a light go off
in their eyes.

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It's like, oh, that's where that
comes from, You know, It's like,

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it's, it's as simple as that.
The lead singer Can't Sing all

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the time.
He's got to breathe at some

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point, right?
Well.

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Yeah, when that, the fact too,
the, the way that we wrote stuff

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and the way that I was trying,
tried to, to write stuff before

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and after it was I didn't, I
didn't want the song to be

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focused on what I was doing.
I wanted the music and the

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elements and the sound right,
The solos and and the drum.

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Fills the.
Screen.

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So a lot of the things that I
would do, I would take, I would

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take, I would take what the,
what the music was, what you

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guys are doing musically.
And then from as I would start

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formulating how how to structure
the the lyrics and you know, the

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words themselves, right, Because
just because I wrote it doesn't

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mean I'm going to sing it the
way it was written because, you

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know, Annunciation, how to style
the.

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Word things like that.
What party going to hold out?

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You know the melody and shit
develops itself within the music

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of the song.
But I was always really keen on,

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like with Scott was how he was
just a powerful drummer when

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when he would have some fills
and shit.

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Like I purposely wouldn't sing
over those things because I

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wanted to hear it.
When Rick could have a really

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cool bass riff, I wouldn't sing
over that.

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If you're doing some weird
harmonic thing here and there, I

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never wanted to sing over that
because I wanted the whole

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element, the whole product
needed to be heard, and

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everybody's, everybody's part
was so important to the song

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itself.
Well, I always thought it was

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cool that you knew where the
moments in time where you and I

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could play off each other were.
Right.

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Well, that's just because we.
Had that union man.

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That was fun, you know, and
sometimes those things would

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have never happened on a record,
but they happened live all the

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time.
Right.

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And that's why it's really
important, boys and girls, if

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you're going to be in a band,
before you lay anything down in

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the studio, play it out 100
times, yes.

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Play that shit out.
Play.

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It well, I'll tell you what I'm
thinking of that I hear all the

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time because I put it at the end
of every episode is listen to

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your sin.
You sing all over that solo, but

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that solo calls for somebody to
do something more because

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there's not a lot going on,
right?

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Right.
And we did all.

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It is is a harmony line.
Right.

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And we did that.
That was just organically done

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because when we were fucking
around with that at Scott's

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house, that's just, you know,
because I don't think.

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It was this man.
I don't think originally a

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single moment, yeah, I don't
think I originally sang over the

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solo.
It just, it ended up evolving

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that way because I would.
You guys gave me the ability.

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Improv so much on stage and and
we were so tight that you would

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follow what I was doing.
So it wasn't miss stepping out

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of this song or the context.
Of the song that that was one of

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the cool freedoms that I liked
with Nemesis.

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Well, I looked at it.
It's see, that's how we got

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along.
If you want to know if you want

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to know how to be in a hive mind
as a band with other human

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beings.
I looked at it.

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Here was my mindset trying to
trying to think of how to put

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this.
It was basically the same thing

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in reverse.
So I'm thinking I want to add to

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whatever you're singing without
ruining it for the people that

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are listening to it, right?
Yeah.

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You were trying not to play over
the top of me, and I was trying

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not to play over the top of you.
So what you ended up with was a

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nice blend.
Right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were.

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Nobody looked on stage and went,
That guy's definitely the guy

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running the show.
You know, how many times did we

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see that?
No, never hundreds.

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I mean, we saw it, but not with
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We.
Just that's what I'm saying.

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How many times did we see that
with other bands where we we

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would joke?
That guy's definitely the

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leader.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, absolutely, man.
But that was that was again, one

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of our unique qualities.
So why we're talking about

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music?
Because I let's just talk about

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music today because, you know,
we haven't done that in a while.

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I stumbled across the I see.
I stumbled across this thing on

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Instagram and I sent it to you
with a video.

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It was a top 10 electric guitar
intros.

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OK.
Oh, awesome.

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Did you happen to see that?
I need to get better about.

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Looking, you're good, 'cause
this is this is this, don't,

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don't look now 'cause this will
be a cool little, this will be a

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cool surprise.
So it's electric guitar intro.

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So looking at this list, it's,
it's basically all of its Hard

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Rock intros.
Yeah, it's all that's hard, Hard

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Rock except for one.
OK, so #10 which is kind of

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surprising.
It was #10 the the electric

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guitar intro for Master of
Puppets.

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Oh, for sure don't.
Yeah, why not?

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Yeah, that's the Beethoven of
our time, right?

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That's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the people can hear it.
We're going to go to.

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I got to share the screen.
Oh, I got to start playing that

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for sure.
No.

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How do I share the screen again?
Where's?

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Oh, there it is.
I see it.

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I see it.
I see it.

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I see it.
Screen OK Share.

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We love you guys.
This is for entertainment

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purposes.
Only, yeah, exactly.

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They're not going to sue us.
This is the top.

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OK, there you go.
The plan?

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Stop what you're luck with.
Right here.

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OK, so that's, that's Metallica.
OK, so that was #10 master

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puppets. #10. #9 on the.
List which which I got to go

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over here OK, I got to go over
here yeah you're going to you're

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going to you're going to agree
with this one too as.

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As far as it being in.
In the list.

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Oh, million percent.
Yeah, right.

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Yeah, right.
Just kick that.

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Just makes me want, yeah?
Music video So it's going to

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take a little to get there 4.
162 You're Sam Kinison, the

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late, great Sam.
There it is.

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Absolutely.
And he's just bending the

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strings with that, right?
Yeah, he's using his whammy bar.

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Yeah.
OK.

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So that's number nine in the in
the top 10.

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Do you know how many guitar
players made their guitar sound

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like a car, engine or motorcycle
before Mcmar said fuck it, I'm

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going to record it?
No, I'm just saying, like I

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can't imagine how many guitar
players just sat in their

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bedroom and made their guitar
sound like a motorcycle.

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I got it was the one that was
smart enough to go.

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I'm going to put it on a record.
Yeah, OK, You can like you're

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going to like this one too.
And then, yeah, 100,000 more

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guitar players did it because he
did it.

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So this is #7.
That should be #1 right?

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That just makes you want to
crank up the volume to

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1,000,000.
Part of the two is you

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instantly.
Know it, Yeah.

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There's.
No doubt strangle what's coming

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on.
Right, you're in for a ride.

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You just fucking know it.
So that's number the.

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Screen
open.

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This is.
This is.

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This is going back to.
Paranoid for sure.

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That makes me want to pick up my
guitar, right?

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Little Jimi Hendrix for you boys
and girls.

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Oh.
Million percent.

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Be honest with you, I don't
remember the sound of this

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intro.
You will in a second.

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Yeah.
Right here.

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Yeah.
And that is how you make

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history.
Little wah.

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Wah pedal?
Yep.

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So all right.
Mini Windows has too many more

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viewers.
That's covering the.

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Interesting.
Well, if you go to the official

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sites, I'm sure it's definitely
we're just picking.

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This is #5.
Absolutely, Absolutely.

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That's why I said most of them
are Hard Rock.

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But this one's not.
This makes me.

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Think of Goodfellas.
Pause that real quick.

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OK.
That makes me think of

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Goodfellas.
And here's why.

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OK.
That band was so cool.

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They just I understand why
they're in there because that's

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a great intro and the one you
just pulled up is another great

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one.
But I'll tell you what's great

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about Layla.
They they had a great outro to

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that as well.
The piano outro to.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, beautiful.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Beautiful.

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Yeah.
Yeah, simple too.

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This one's great too.
Yeah.

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Some of the best sounding drums
in my opinion.

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All from from dire straits.
Yeah, when the drums kick in

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here.
Yeah.

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I love the way it just all
builds up.

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Yeah, that's the cool.
That's kind of like I.

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Certain stuff that we look,
that's where I like doing that.

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Yeah, I complain.
We're falling back down and out

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now.
This one, next one definitely

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metal.
Oh, for sure.

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Wait.
I love it.

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Oh my God, everybody's freaking
the fuck out.

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Still sounds as good today as
the first time I heard it.

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Right fucking hey, dude.
First my my first introduction

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to Iron Maiden my brother had.
Had.

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The Trooper album.
Pause it real quick.

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And and the album itself, the
cover was like holy shit,

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remember Eddie in the
Revolutionary War garb?

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100% nobody can hear us when
you're telling that story.

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And I love these stories.
Oh.

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Oh, cuz of the music.
Yeah, I don't want them to get,

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I don't want us to get garbled
because I love your music

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stories.
Yeah, well, I and I love.

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Yours, as I do my own.
Yeah, so #2 on the list.

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This might be, I take that back.
This should be #1 you're.

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Going to be surprised #1 is.
And I'll tell you why tell.

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Me.
Why?

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It's 2 notes, but Darrell forced
to move.

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That's it.
That's it.

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Wow.
He was just like, here's 2

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notes, but I'm going to play him
with such authority that you're

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going to have to move.
And this is #1.

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Well, all right,
pause that right there.

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Have you ever seen the Live at
the River Plate version of that,

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where they're down in South
America at a soccer stadium?

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No.
That will, if you search that

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one ACDC live at the River
Plate.

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OK.
There must be 100 and 1000 and

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20,000 people there and they
start playing that and the whole

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fucking crowd just starts in
unison.

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I love that jump up and down.
Love that when you see that

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dude.
And they sing that riff, you

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know, with ACDC, they're louder
than the band at.

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Time, that's all.
I've watched that concert

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probably four times in its
entirety, just because it's so

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awesome.
You and I recently discovered

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like 2 days ago discovered.
Remember when we were on, we had

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Jake on your friend Jake, not my
son Jake.

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Oh yeah.
OK.

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And we're talking about it gets.
Confusing.

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And we're like.
Hey, there needs to be like like

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a dedicated app to just music
right on demand.

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Everything from videos to you
break it down to artists, eras,

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albums, all that kind of shit.
Yeah, fucking YouTube Music.

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Is just that.
I I don't know yet because I, I,

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I, I've been wanting forever.
I've been jonesing right to

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rewatch scorpions worldwide
live.

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We, you and I have even talked
about that like I've been

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wanting to rewatch that because
it just, that was one of those.

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There's shows I go back and
watch, so I appreciate why you

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want to see that, you know,
because it meant so much to you

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in not only your introduction to
Hard Rock and what it meant to

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you, but you know, as a front
man and becoming a singer and a

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songwriter and what you listen
to then.

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I've been thinking about that a
lot as they come up in my

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playlist.
You know, a lot of those bands

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from the 80s that were really
good, especially like as a

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guitar player, I listen to Saxon
and Iron Maiden and Judas Priest

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and you know, all the bands that
had really cool guitar players.

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Whatever you want to say about
the 80s, they they definitely

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produce some amazing musicians.
Amazing, amazing bands and a lot

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of them get.
Lost that could pull it off live

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too, right?
You saw it with your own eyes.

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I saw the scorpions out in
Arizona.

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They were bad ass man.
Yeah, and it was, it was, it was

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cool to.
So I found it.

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I went on YouTube Music and I
just I typed in Scorpions

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Worldwide Live and fucking there
it was in its entirety.

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Like the whole thing, I'm like,
holy shit.

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And then afterwards there's a
little, you know, Golden Nugget,

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the last like 12 minutes of it
because it was a 50th

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anniversary, which fuck, I'm
old, right?

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Maybe it's 50th anniversary of
Scorpions because they didn't.

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That didn't show.
Didn't happen when I was 5.

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It was a love.
It was a love of first team

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tour, which I didn't realize
back then, but it's a love of

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first team tour and they kept
climbing the charts and that was

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their second tour of the United
States.

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I bet that was about 1984.
Yeah, yeah.

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So they decided at that second
leg that they were going to

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start filming some shows because
they wanted to capture what what

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was going on because they just
kept they kept climbing like

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they were.
They were stuck on certain

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numbers on the charts.
And then a couple weeks later

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they bump up one and then a
couple weeks later they bump up

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one.
And then and they crescendoed

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all the way up to to where they
were playing in Madison Square

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Garden.
They were doing the long the

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Long Island Arena or something.
They were talking about it.

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Clausen and Matthias were being
interviewed and they were it.

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It was kind of cool.
They were discussing the

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evolution of the Love at First
Thing tour and how they started

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out down here and then all of a
sudden they were the like the

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hottest selling band in the in
the world at the time and they

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went from clubs to fucking.
Thanks to Rudolph's brother

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Michael.
Yeah, yeah.

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He chose, he chose his path
though, and I'll tell you what,

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the Scorpions did what they
wanted to do, and obviously

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Michael didn't want to go down
that road, but they delivered

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every night.
Man, I don't even remember who

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opened for the Scorpions.
That's how fucking good they

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were.
Bon Jovi.

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Oh, OK, You remember?
No, because they talked about

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it.
They talked about it.

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Oh, OK, I got it.
Would you have?

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Oh, you didn't go to the show?
No, but the love of first tour

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was Bon Jovi.
Like like Claus had talked about

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it in the interview, the post,
the post radio interview, right.

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He's like, he kind of said it
with like, like kind of like a

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dig.
Like, well, does that make it

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before 1984?
Because it wasn't Bon Jovi on

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top of the world by 1984?
Maybe.

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Maybe.
Well, this was the way Klaus

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spun it was that was Bon Jovi's
break because they toured the

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world with Bon Jovi.
So maybe that was like the

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runaway era of Bon Jovi, in and
out of love.

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That album. 7800 Fahrenheit,
that's what.

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It was, yeah.
So was it was it was it was cool

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to listen to them talk about how
the how the experience in the

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band started growing because
they started with the Spinal Tap

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was out.
They talked about that and how

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their first stage.
Set.

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Mathias was like, it looks too
much like Spinal Tap.

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I'm like this, we're not doing
this anymore.

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So.
So when they went to the United

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States, they changed the set
because it was.

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I think we would have embraced
that.

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There was this, there was this
thing that that like in front of

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the drum riser, it was like a
garage door with lights through

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it and it was rising up while
the smoke was billowing.

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And they had their their intro
music for the show coming on the

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doom.
And it's that was awesome.

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Right.
And then you start and as it's

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rising and then they all kind of
kind of come running out of this

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box.
Right, you make me want to watch

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this concert again right now.
So they're all running out and

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kicking their legs and Claus is
throwing a microphone.

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And then they're like, yeah,
it's fucking Spinal Tap, man,

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let's get a better stage, you
know?

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And then they, they, they go on
like, like then all of a sudden

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they have whoever was making
Steven Tyler's clothes is

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making, making their, their
clothes for shows.

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Because then they had to, they
had to kick everything up a

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notch.
So the production had to go up.

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The what they wore on stage had
to evolve and change and get

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better, brighter and, you know,
different colors and shit.

458
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,280
And then all of a sudden they
buy more guitars.

459
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,240
And it was, it was kind of cool
because really they, they were

460
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,480
down here And then love the
first thing specifically still

461
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,120
loving.
You fucking took them.

462
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,960
What a great song though.
There were.

463
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520
There was a baby.
Boom, Nine months after that

464
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,280
album came out in America.
I believe it.

465
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280
So yeah, that was cool.
That's like the Rock'n'roll

466
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:49,280
version of Al Green.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I was.

467
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,200
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

468
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,640
So then.
So then last night I was like.

469
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Oh.
From from whatever in my head

470
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,920
Queens, right?
So I, I asked YouTube Music

471
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,760
Building Empires and sure
enough, the building Empires

472
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,920
video, which takes you from the
beginning of the band all the

473
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,160
way up to Empire that was, that
was, that was cool.

474
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,360
That was interesting to watch.
They're very Chris de Garmo did

475
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,360
most of the talking.
He always reminded me of you, by

476
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,240
the way, and vice versa.
You guys had the same look, you

477
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,320
know, kind of the same skinny
rock.

478
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,160
Star, I think we had, yeah, I
think we tried to achieve

479
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,400
similar styles.
He was way more of a proficient

480
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,440
guitar player.
But I know I appreciated how he

481
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600
didn't just play, you know, the
same rhythm over and over and

482
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560
over again.
You know his his songs were

483
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,120
structured and they built into
something, you know?

484
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,040
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and they were.

485
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240
I love the Queen.
'S right just because of of the

486
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,600
whole the product of it.
Jeff Tate was a fantastic front

487
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120
man, you know, and, and like
we've talked about, that's what.

488
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,240
They were solid in every area.
They were until the gun will

489
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160
laugh and they kind of just poop
down a little notch.

490
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Yeah, I mean, Jesus.
You know, it's kind of like if

491
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,360
Jerry Cantrell left left Alice
In Chains.

492
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Not going to happen, Yeah.
But if he did, it wouldn't be

493
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,400
the same.
Band Yeah, you just can't.

494
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
That's a feel.
So I think we talked about that

495
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,480
maybe on the last episode that
we released where I said, you

496
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,960
know, you can be taught to play,
but you can't be taught to play

497
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,680
with that feel that you heard in
the intros of all those songs

498
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,920
that, you know, I would put life
in the fast lane in there.

499
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,800
You know, that was just a intro
lick or not an intro, a warm up

500
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,760
lick that Joe Walls played
backstage and the guys were

501
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,000
like, hey, what's that, you
know?

502
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,920
No shit.
He's like, that's just something

503
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,760
I'm warming up to, you know?
Right on.

504
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,960
Yeah, well, we, I didn't know
that.

505
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Yeah, he told the story on
Howard Stern.

506
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,080
I like the little stories behind
the music.

507
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,280
You know, me too.
I'm fascinated with that kind of

508
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,720
stuff.
I actually just watched a

509
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,720
documentary over the weekend on
Guns and Roses.

510
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,000
It's on Amazon Prime.
I remember right about an hour

511
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,080
and a half, but it's all about
their beginnings to basically

512
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040
when things started to go South
for him, right?

513
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,800
OK.
Cool.

514
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:18,240
But the thing that I took away
from that was the LA strip

515
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,680
basically survived for three
years longer because of the

516
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,000
success of Guns and Roses,
because they came from

517
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Hollywood.
Yeah.

518
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Wow.
You know, the 80s music was dead

519
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400
at that point.
And when Appetite, you know,

520
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,960
everybody sounded the same.
I don't.

521
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,720
Sure dead is a bad way to put
it, but it was just becoming

522
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000
very redundant, stale.
Yeah.

523
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Everybody was a poser of
themselves is what people called

524
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,600
those kind of people back in.
The day.

525
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,600
So they said the success of Guns
and Roses basically kept that LA

526
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,440
Hollywood scene going for A33
entire more years past when it

527
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
probably would have died.
Yeah.

528
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,040
That's how successful Guns and
Roses was.

529
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,720
And they were too.
And, and even though they came

530
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240
out, yeah, and even though when
they came, they came out with,

531
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,920
with, with appetite or welcome
to the jungle, like he, his hair

532
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,440
was teased.
So they still had a little bit

533
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400
of the 80s nonsense.
But then the music was like so

534
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400
far removed from 80s.
Pop rock, a hair band and then

535
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,760
it just it it went from.
Could have been interviewed in

536
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,000
the documentary Mr. Dunham, they
discussed that topic just like

537
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,440
that.
It's it's true though, because

538
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,320
they it is true, they had to
latch on to.

539
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,840
That But you know what one guy
said that nobody ever talks

540
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,680
about that I've always said
about Guns and Roses and I

541
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360
wanted to say when Joe was here,
but I I don't know.

542
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,960
I don't know why I didn't
interject then.

543
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,120
But the one thing I always
defend Guns and Roses on is they

544
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000
were all characters.
Each one was their own

545
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,080
character.
The drummer also had his teased

546
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
up hair when Appetite came out
if you remember.

547
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Yep, no, every one of them.
And then when Izzy left they had

548
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,080
the milk cartoons on one of the
videos.

549
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Where's Izzy?
Yes.

550
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Yeah, totally.
That was, that was one cool

551
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,200
thing about what 70s and 80's
rock bands did.

552
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240
They kind of, you know, had
little like the Scorpions, they

553
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080
wore the same shit on the stage.
Like you knew what you could

554
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,080
tell from, you know, back at PIR
in the very far back.

555
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Oh, that's Mathias because of
his weird fucking yellow black

556
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,840
stripe clothes, right?
And.

557
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Claus had the.
The the cheetah jacket and same

558
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280
with kiss.
They had their their characters

559
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,600
and.
Think about it.

560
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Duff was tall.
He couldn't miss him.

561
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,400
He's like 6-2 or three or
whatever he is.

562
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Might be taller than that but
Izzy look like a homeless guy

563
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320
standing back there with his
fucking Derby cap.

564
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,840
Axel was Axel, Slash became
Slash actually became a

565
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,560
character of himself.
Everybody knows what Slash looks

566
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,240
like.
Yeah, everybody.

567
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,160
It's yeah, without it, without a
doubt. 90 year old grandmas

568
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,280
know.
Oh, that's slash.

569
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Yeah, that's true, though.
A lot of Yeah.

570
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,360
And that was the that was the
cool thing about bands, the

571
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,240
personalities, especially the
bigger ones.

572
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880
You can start seeing the person
eyes on stage and you know, it

573
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,600
came through and it was kind of
cool.

574
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,600
But I'll tell you another thing
I agreed with that I've said

575
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,720
too, is after the original core
members of the band started

576
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,000
getting replaced, you never they
lived off that most dangerous

577
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,480
band in the world moniker long
after it wasn't true, right?

578
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Yeah, Oh.
Yeah, at one time they were the

579
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,440
most dangerous band in the
world.

580
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
You didn't know what you were
going to get from night to

581
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
night, but they were so fucking
good that you had to try it.

582
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,200
You had to chance it.
That's what the promoters were

583
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,360
saying.
Yeah.

584
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:44,800
It was worth the amount of money
that you stood to lose to you

585
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,320
know it.
It was worth the amount of money

586
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000
to put up.
With the bullshit.

587
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480
With the yeah, with their
bullshit, because of how much

588
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,880
the end product was, you know
you're making whatever it was 11

589
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,080
times on your investment.
And the bullshit was Axel,

590
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040
because everybody else wanted to
go out and play and they just

591
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,760
had to wait for Axel.
Yeah, there was somebody that

592
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,199
was close to Izzy in that
documentary that basically said

593
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,719
he never wanted that band to get
that big and he left.

594
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,199
That's the end of the story.
Izzy yeah, I don't see.

595
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,920
That it just wasn't for him, you
know, He would have been happy

596
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,000
playing in bars and clubs the
rest of his life.

597
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,840
Yeah.
And see, that amazes me.

598
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,280
There's people like that that go
into the music industry that,

599
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120
you know, Eddie Vedder, he
didn't want Pearl Jam to be

600
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,800
Pearl Jam, which I part of.
Part of me gets that like you

601
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,639
just want to stay humble and in
your space.

602
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,679
But if you want to reach to the
level of that that you don't

603
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,239
have to worry about anything and
that's your life, then you're

604
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,239
going to have some level of
success.

605
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,560
So let me ask you this because I
ask every musician this.

606
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,440
OK.
Does your message mean something

607
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,800
to the world?
Do you want it to mean something

608
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,160
to the world, or do you want it
to mean something to you?

609
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:03,480
From my from from the higher
right.

610
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,880
Lyrics and stuff.
Yeah.

611
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,560
I've always wrote it as approach
to to this is for the world

612
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080
because some way, shape and form
they're going to relate to what

613
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,360
I'm singing about.
What I think that what I think

614
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,040
that to me that proves that you
would have handled fame in a

615
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,600
very diplomatic and casual.
Way I think I would have, I

616
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,200
think I would have been the guy
that that would have I wouldn't

617
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,280
have like when I saw Queens like
building Empires, we had we had

618
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160
meet and greet after the show,
right?

619
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,680
So of course, the one who who
comes out is Eddie Jackson, the

620
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,920
bass player.
Like, like, like really like

621
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Jeff Tate's not coming out,
Wilton's not coming out, rocking

622
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,360
Field's not coming out.
It's Eddie Jackson.

623
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,400
Get out.
There, bass player, get out

624
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,280
there.
He was cool, but it's just he's

625
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,840
a bass player and for those of
you that know bass players.

626
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:56,000
All your You're treading on
dangerous waters.

627
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,720
But you know what I'm saying?
From a personality.

628
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,680
Standpoint, I don't know what
he's saying, ladies and

629
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,360
gentlemen, because at some time
I have to work with bass

630
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
players, so now I I know exactly
what.

631
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Bass bass players.
Do you're a fan of the band and

632
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
even bass players understand?
That's why there's so many bass

633
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,920
player jokes, you know, That's
why normally they are such cool

634
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,200
down to earth human beings
because they're going to have to

635
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,720
deal with the public hazing and
hazing within the band at.

636
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,320
Times.
Right, but it's just but.

637
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560
They are the foundation of the
band, whether you like it or

638
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,920
not.
Yeah, yeah, they write the song.

639
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080
It's not a chord until the bass
player chooses the note.

640
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,880
That's always the joke.
Yeah, so I mean, it was, it was

641
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,040
cool to meet him because that
was the first real rock star I

642
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,320
met from a from a dialogue
standpoint.

643
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,920
And he he's graceful with his
time.

644
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,280
It wasn't like hurry up and ask
my question and get my answer.

645
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,480
You know, he was kind of talking
to there's like 10 of us.

646
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,520
So, you know, he was signing
stuff, talking, looking,

647
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,240
engaging, eye contact, stuff
like that.

648
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,440
So it was a good experience.
It's just not what it's not what

649
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,880
you wanted.
And my question I remember to

650
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920
this day was, are you guys ever
going to write another rock

651
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,080
concept and, you know, a
conceptual album again, like

652
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200
mine crime and he's like, I hope
not.

653
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920
And then fucking building.
But building empires, like

654
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,240
building empires was a
conceptual album.

655
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,320
Of course it wasn't.
It wasn't as.

656
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,000
It wasn't as.
It wasn't.

657
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,280
It was in your face.
Right, it wasn't a start to

658
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,480
finish his mind crime, but it's
still every song kind of

659
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
continues the story of the
original song because the

660
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
context of it and and was all
government and and you know,

661
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,720
control and conspiracy and shit.
So that was interesting that he

662
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,280
said no, I hope not, but.
Like what you just kind of did,

663
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,560
man, but his eyes didn't, so you
know.

664
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,840
That's cool.
You got to meet somebody from

665
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,560
Queen Drake.
Yeah, yeah, it was cool, you

666
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,320
know?
And that he wasn't a Dick.

667
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280
It always sucks.
People forget where they came

668
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120
from, you know?
No, and and that's why I think,

669
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,800
and I think you too would have
been.

670
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,960
I don't, I I don't.
We can't speak for Scott and

671
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320
Scott, Scott and Rick.
Wow, brain fart.

672
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Rick would have just been along
for the ride, just like he

673
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,200
always was.
Yeah.

674
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,600
But I think you and I would
have, yeah, I think you and I

675
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,360
would have had no problem going
out and signing things and

676
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,680
pictures and hanging out and
just because that's.

677
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,400
No, we, I think that's why.
Well, I don't think you know

678
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360
kiddos that are out there that
want to be professional

679
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,360
musicians.
The reason that Metallica became

680
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,920
the biggest band in the world is
because they never forgot where

681
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,840
they came from.
And they are as much fans of

682
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,440
their own band and other
people's music as we are.

683
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,760
Right?
They'd never forgot being the

684
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,120
kids who were in the garage
listening to their favorite

685
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,680
bands.
That's why they became the

686
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,680
biggest.
It just.

687
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,720
Yeah, as far as Hard Rock goes,
or heavy metal or whatever you

688
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,840
want to call it, it's just, it's
just you rise to the top by

689
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,040
being humble, you know?
Yeah.

690
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,840
And like you said, you don't
forget where you came from.

691
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,280
Like you don't.
It's it's, I see it all the time

692
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,840
and I'm sure you see.
Shit, I appreciate that

693
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,760
compliment from you though.
That kind of stuff not lost on

694
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,040
me.
I know, I know.

695
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,840
But I, I, I, I I see, I see too
much of people walking by people

696
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,400
with their hands out like this.
Just give me 5.

697
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,760
Just really just give the dude
5.

698
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,480
What's it going to hurt?
You don't have to touch your

699
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,200
face.
After you give him and 20 other

700
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,480
people A5, you go back to the
dressing room and wash your

701
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,360
fucking hands, because I get
that like I'm a little paranoid

702
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,520
with that shit, but I would
still like fucking it's not that

703
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,240
hard.
Oh look, there's a fan.

704
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880
You fucking that fan is going to
go home next.

705
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Oh dude, fucking I sell
scorpions last night fucking

706
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,200
with tire shops.
I reached up on stage.

707
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,760
You slapped my head.
It was cool fucking and that's

708
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,080
that's going to live in that
kids mind for years and you're

709
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,800
going to like just like now
Eddie Jackson wasn't oh, Eddie

710
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Jackson, but I was.
I was so into Queens Reich at

711
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,520
the time that it was cool enough
that he came out and was

712
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,200
gracious and was cool and was
answering questions.

713
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,880
It wasn't a Dick.
And you know, he had the big 400

714
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,360
LB bodyguard that was, you know,
far enough away that if somebody

715
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560
tried to do something that the
guy couldn't have saved him

716
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,800
because he was too big.
But.

717
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,720
He didn't have him sit right
next to him.

718
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,080
So it was, it was kind of cool.
Like when I met Alter Bridge, it

719
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,880
was the same thing.
It wasn't, they were at a table,

720
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,280
right?
And so we were walking, we were

721
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,200
going across the table having
them sign stuff.

722
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,840
But you had enough time to have
conversations with him.

723
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
So much so that I learned that
Brian Marshall, the bass player

724
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,880
for Alter Bridge, is a realtor
in Florida.

725
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,200
So I actually tried to give him
a referral one time and he's

726
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,400
like, I don't cover that area.
Like, motherfucker, why not?

727
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,400
I would love to be able to get a
referral from Brian Marshall.

728
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,760
You know, at least I tried,
right.

729
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,400
So that was the that was the
cool thing.

730
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Approachable bands are just
that.

731
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,680
Like Michael Bruce.
I met him and Alice Cooper's

732
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,960
original guitar player.
Really nice guy, really laid

733
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000
back.
Now part of it's because he's 70

734
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520
years old now.
So he's, you know, that's a dude

735
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,960
that stood in front of 200,000
people and played music when

736
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Alice Cooper.
So damn right.

737
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,280
Right.
So if.

738
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,000
He's been any done that.
Right.

739
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,720
So, so if anybody could have the
right to have just an an ego,

740
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,120
something like that would have
that right.

741
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,400
And he doesn't.
He didn't.

742
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,880
Sure, he's just laid back.
And those are, that's always so

743
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
fascinating to me.
I love those people because they

744
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520
became better human beings,
right?

745
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,000
They experienced something that
very few people will ever

746
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040
experience, and they learned and
grew from it instead of being

747
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
like, look at me and look at
what I did.

748
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Right.
I admire those people.

749
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,920
Yeah.
And there's a lot of, yeah,

750
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,400
there's a lot of people that
I've run across over the years

751
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,080
that looking on my wall over
here, like Beth from Beth and

752
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Bill, she's being on iheart in.
Radio personality in Arizona for

753
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360
decades and she, there was
nothing pompous about her.

754
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,480
She was just, I saw her passing.
I was getting ready to go record

755
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
my show.
She was coming out of somewhere

756
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,000
and I was like, hey, Beth and
she looks like, who the fuck are

757
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,440
you?
And I was like, hey, I'm Chris.

758
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080
I do a show with with G&E
neutral talk USA.

759
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,840
She's like, oh, OK, how are you?
I'm said, I'm great.

760
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,200
I was like, so this person I
know name name Holly.

761
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,240
She thinks you're just the
greatest person ever.

762
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,440
So I think would be hilarious if
I we could take a picture

763
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,600
together and I can just rub it
in her face.

764
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,800
And and so and she laughed and
then so Margie, my my Co host,

765
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,560
she took a picture of us and you
know, but she could have been

766
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,320
like, fuck off.
She could have been like, hi

767
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,880
Chris.
I got to go, but she wasn't.

768
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,200
She was like, OK.
But don't you think that that's

769
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,720
why those people are so
successful, because they're

770
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,200
genuine personality just like
yours does?

771
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,480
I mean, I'm a tough card.
I'm a tough card to read.

772
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,240
I don't know if I have a
personality, but your

773
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,640
personality comes through in
space all the time.

774
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Yeah, and I agree with you.
The more approachable you are on

775
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040
the social medium, whatever
you're doing, podcasts,

776
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,320
Instagrams, Facebooks, I think
the more poetry.

777
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,760
People pick up on that, like you
said, they, they get, they, they

778
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,320
feel that.
Because they know you're not,

779
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
you know?
Now I do have my asshole

780
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,760
moments.
Not going to fucking.

781
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Pretend we all do.
We're human beings.

782
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,640
You know, but it's.
Not perfect every minute of

783
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,920
every day.
No, but it's kind of cool that,

784
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,520
you know, like when I met Butch
Patrick, right, Eddie Munster,

785
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,840
there's a kid that came up from
a child, right, And the Munsters

786
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,880
was a was like the number one
show, right?

787
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,960
Laid back?
Yeah.

788
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,240
There was only like 3 shows on
television back then.

789
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,640
For real.
Right.

790
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Totally unassuming.
You can kind of tell he's Eddie

791
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Munster if if, but if he just
saw him, you wouldn't think, oh,

792
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,440
that's Eddie Munster because
he's old.

793
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,840
But just legit, really.
Genuine nice human being, you

794
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,760
know, wasn't an ass.
That's awesome.

795
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
You know, and I hung out with
him pretty much for two days

796
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,760
because he was doing good news
Arizona time and, and he invited

797
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,840
me to go.
To the the Garrett Barrett

798
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,480
Jackson auction and actually
film him selling the Munster

799
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,200
mobile.
No way.

800
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,760
Yeah, we put it together as a
little clip for him.

801
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,720
So that was.
That's really cool dude, I'd

802
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,880
never do that.
Yeah, so I was in the, I was in

803
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,760
the car filming him while he's
waving to the crowd on this.

804
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,040
We went up on stage and I got
out of the car on the Barrett

805
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360
Jackson stage.
And you know, that's so cool,

806
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,680
man, filming Eddie Munster.
You better participant at

807
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,880
Barrett Jackson.
Yeah.

808
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,640
I think that's neat.
I was.

809
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,880
I watch that every time it's on
TVI actually went to it once

810
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,160
when I lived out there.
I'm right on.

811
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,280
Yeah, I've gone through a couple
times.

812
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,440
And I'm not really even into
cars, but I'm not something of

813
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680
that level.
That's like an old fuck level of

814
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,080
cars, you know?
Right.

815
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,720
And but the the I've learned.
Because I've probably gone three

816
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,560
times and I've and I've learned
kind of like the Phoenix Open

817
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,560
because being a real estate
title companies, oh, here's free

818
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480
tickets and shit.
That's how I went to the Barrett

819
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,480
Jackson, yeah.
Right.

820
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,320
But you.
You.

821
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,440
You only have to go to those
things once really because it's

822
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680
nothing really changes.
Like I mean, there's never

823
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,360
really a a different car there
that you haven't seen before.

824
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,880
Like every year you see the
Mystery Machine.

825
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,960
OK, well.
You only did it once, you know

826
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,960
what I mean?
Do you remember how much the

827
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,240
Monster Mobile sold for it?
It wasn't what he wanted.

828
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,320
I want to say 6070 grand.
They were hoping to get like 100

829
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,840
or something and it didn't.
It was a replica.

830
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,680
It wasn't the IT wasn't the
original 1.

831
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,680
He builds.
He builds replicas, he signs

832
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,600
them, he signs them.
I mean, they're all like

833
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,480
they're, and they are.
It's exactly like the car.

834
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,440
It's just a replica, kind of
like the Batmobile, right?

835
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,960
The original Batmobile is not
going to be sold.

836
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640
But you have all these replicas
that that people make and create

837
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,880
and you know, it's just
aesthetics.

838
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,560
I got the Batmobile.
Sure, you know Herm Edwards.

839
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,920
I met him in Tempe one time at
We were at this restaurant

840
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,960
eating breakfast and.
He just happened to walk by and

841
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,400
I'm like, you know, I walked up
to him and I says hey, you know,

842
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
you're home.
And Edwards, he's like, yes, I

843
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,840
am.
I was like, can I get a picture

844
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,640
because I have a friend because
I did Troy, who huge ASU fan

845
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,560
works for a issue.
I was like, as soon as I send

846
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,600
him this picture, he's going to
want to come down to meet you

847
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,280
and you're going to be gone.
So it'll be funny, so.

848
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,360
He was, I mean, that was, that
was.

849
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880
I don't, he wasn't.
He was, that's that's when he

850
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,840
was the coach for.
ASU.

851
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,800
So it's not like he was.
He was.

852
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,320
That's after he left the NFL and
stuff.

853
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,840
I don't remember.
Really anything about the

854
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,600
conversation, he just seemed
like a cool guy that was

855
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,760
approachable.
But anybody that's an NFL fan

856
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,120
knows that name for sure.
Yes, yes, yeah, 'cause he

857
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,800
played, I think he played on the
box and then he ended up like a

858
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,240
cornerback, defensive side of
the ball and then ended up being

859
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,040
a coach for The Jets.
For a while.

860
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,800
And maybe a couple other teams,
I don't remember who.

861
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,240
Leatherface.
I meant Leatherface or not

862
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:34,160
Leatherface.
Latimer.

863
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Remember the movie The Program
football movie with James Caan?

864
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Yes, absolutely Craig Sheffield
was the quarterback.

865
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Latimer was a steroid it out
defensive lineman that used to

866
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,920
paint his face all black and
shit.

867
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:51,760
He was fucking huge.
Yes, OK, so he was, he came to

868
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,640
town to a signing and I had, I
went and picked him up from his

869
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,960
hotel and he liked Pantera,
which I knew.

870
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,520
So I had Pantera playing and
motherfucking just, you know,

871
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,680
like, dude, you're in somebody's
truck.

872
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,840
You don't fucking whip out your
your blunt and start smoking it.

873
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,080
And I was irritated.
No, yeah, I would never do that.

874
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,200
No, I know, I know.
I was like what the fuck dude?

875
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,680
Come on, You're talking to
somebody that you know would do

876
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,440
potentially do something like
that, but you know I would never

877
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,520
do that.
Right.

878
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,240
But you know, he was Latimer.
He was twice my size with

879
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:25,920
muscle.
Yeah, but that's still fucking

880
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,400
rude because there's people like
my mother who are allergic to

881
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560
smoke, you know, like it
physically causes her to not be

882
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,000
able to breathe.
So, you know, how did he know

883
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,600
that you weren't in that
position?

884
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,280
That's that's what I'm always
thinking.

885
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,600
No, I agree.
You're like, is this cool?

886
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,960
You know, and I, yeah, so, but
at the same time, you know, your

887
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,600
mom wouldn't have gotten picked
up Latimer from a hotel room,

888
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,680
you know?
No, but my point was.

889
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040
No, I get your.
Point, I know somebody who's

890
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,880
physically allergic to smoke,
you know, so it had you been you

891
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,600
with her allergy.
Right.

892
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640
He could have potentially caused
you both to die because you

893
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,480
wouldn't have been able to drive
the car because you couldn't

894
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,000
breathe, right, Right.
That's.

895
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,760
Have I ever told you the kid in
play story?

896
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,360
I get irritated for you
sometimes.

897
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Have I told you the kid and play
story?

898
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Remember, kid?
And play from the 90s.

899
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,960
From the 90s I got no but I got
to hear this one for sure.

900
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,800
Do tell.
But you know who kid and play

901
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,480
are absolutely OK.
So five, 5-6 years ago, Nick and

902
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,000
I are flying to Washington DC to
do our first half marathon for

903
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,760
the Marine Corps Marathon they
have every year.

904
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,560
OK?
OK.

905
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:40,200
So. 1 little caveat about us
because I don't drink, we don't

906
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,880
do anything extravagant with our
lives.

907
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,400
We live very like just humble.
One of the things we do when

908
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,280
whenever we go somewhere to run
like vacation races, we call

909
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,440
them, we go first class.
And the whole reason why if you

910
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,240
if you've never run a half
marathon and the day after half

911
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,880
marathon you're flying home and
you're sitting in coach, your

912
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,200
legs don't fucking like you.
That doesn't sound fun at.

913
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,440
All no.
So that's one thing that we do.

914
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,680
We just, that's the one thing
we've always kind of splurged

915
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,040
on.
When she and I travel, we just

916
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,600
do that.
And you're supposed to do that.

917
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,960
That's why you work, you're
supposed.

918
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,240
To treat yourself.
I just don't want people to

919
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,080
think I'm all pumped.
It's first class, but it's if

920
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,680
you look at what we do.
He's really Batman, ladies and

921
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,360
gentlemen.
It's the only, it's the only

922
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,160
thing we do, really.
Spoil ourselves that we should

923
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,760
say so.
We get off the.

924
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,800
Plane obviously first class
people go first so we're we're

925
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,800
the 2nd row on the left of the
plane and the front row right

926
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,160
he's he's sitting there OK it's
it's it's it's kid the one with

927
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,880
the but he.
Didn't have the big hair.

928
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,800
It was.
It was short.

929
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,280
Short, right?
Wouldn't expect him to at this.

930
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Point right, so he they get so
we're basically three people

931
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,920
behind him.
Well, this this kid had got on

932
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,720
the plane.
As he was coming on the plane,

933
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,760
he realized who he was and and
so he reached over and and then,

934
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,040
you know, kid was kind of a
Dick.

935
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,320
Because you could kind of tell
he was just like, leave me the

936
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
fuck alone.
No offense kid, but it gets

937
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
better.
So we're walking down the the

938
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,320
tarmac to get into the airport
itself and that kid comes

939
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,240
running up again and he's
chirping, chirping at him.

940
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,320
And you know, he says whatever
back, you know, shakes his hand

941
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,400
and off he goes.
The kid goes so now we're going

942
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,000
towards the luggage and he's 2
steps in front of me.

943
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,000
So I kind of double step and I
was like hey man, he kind of

944
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,040
looks at me.
We're walking.

945
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,280
Mind you, I'm like, who are you?
He's like what?

946
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,720
I'm like, well, that kid made a
point when he got on the plane

947
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,360
and got off the plane to chase
you down.

948
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,000
So obviously you're someone and
I said I'm sitting in first

949
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
class across from you and behind
you, but I'm not, I'm

950
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,920
respectful.
I'm not going to bug somebody on

951
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,120
a plane.
But I said, you know, we're

952
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,320
walking now in a hallway.
There's nobody else around but

953
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,120
you, like you and my wife.
You what?

954
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,320
I say nobody else around but my.
Fucking love this.

955
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Right, I said.
So I just, I just want to know

956
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,800
who you are.
So he drops his name.

957
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,520
Don't recognize his name.
I was like and he and he, he

958
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,160
does it in a Jamaican accent.
Not fucking mine too, OK?

959
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,760
He's not Jamaican, so I didn't
recognize the name.

960
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,320
And I saw that.
I was like, huh, I don't

961
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,240
recognize that name anything.
What have you done that I would

962
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,600
have known?
And he goes, kid and play.

963
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,920
I'm like, oh.
Yeah.

964
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,800
Right.
And so, so here we go, we get.

965
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,480
So then we kind of in the
parting way to somehow that

966
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,960
path, we went to different route
to get to the baggage claim, OK.

967
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,640
In baggers came I'm standing
there with Nikki and all of a

968
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,040
sudden fucking play comes up or
kid comes up right next to me.

969
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,360
His name is I think his name is
Chris.

970
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,760
So he.
Comes right, So I kind of look

971
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,840
at him.
I'm like you stalking me, man.

972
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,400
So I get a little smirk.
I get one of these.

973
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,000
OK, it gets better dude.
Do you believe how fucking funny

974
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,600
this shit gets?
Do you?

975
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,480
Understand why I loved hanging
out with this guy.

976
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,160
Lazy.
You know, this was every day so.

977
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,400
We get our luggage, he gets his
luggage again, we're going

978
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,840
different directions, right.
He's probably got whatever car

979
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,080
picking him up and we, I don't
know if we Uber the taxi back

980
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,120
then.
So we go to the we get to the

981
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,480
hotel, which is some random
hotel in, in Washington.

982
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,200
It's it's Halloween weekend, OK,
And that's important to know

983
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000
this.
So we're in the hotel, we're

984
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,160
checking in, actually waiting in
line to check in.

985
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,360
OK, I guess.
Who fucking walks in the door?

986
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:25,320
Play.
No, OK.

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Sorry, that was.
So I turn and I see him and I'm

988
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,520
like, I'm like, really, man?
So now he's got a bigger smile

989
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,480
on his face.
I'm like, dude, we could've just

990
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,320
shared the same car.
Like we just both spent money on

991
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,720
the rides man, come on.
You got me with that one.

992
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,000
So he's behind me now, in line,
right?

993
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,600
Guess who fucking comes out the
elevator not 2 seconds later?

994
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,400
Fucking play.
So here we are.

995
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,720
I'm going to go get it.
I'm with kid and play in a

996
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,040
Washington hotel.
Hold on.

997
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,600
We're going to get the
photographic evidence, ladies

998
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,440
and gentlemen.
He's going to take the picture

999
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,640
off the wall.
Oh my God, that story just

1000
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,680
killed me.
So if you grew up at the same

1001
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,800
time we did, this story is
hilarious.

1002
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,520
So there we are this.
Is that's awesome.

1003
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,560
This is who was on the plane.
This is who?

1004
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Bring it closer a little.
Bit this is who I kept.

1005
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,800
Saying, hey man, you're
stopping, why you?

1006
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,560
Why you stalking me, man?
OK, so it gets better.

1007
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,320
OK.
That's a great picture though,

1008
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,960
Right?
So you didn't think it could get

1009
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,560
better?
Right.

1010
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,680
It gets better.
It gets better.

1011
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,960
The next night, because we got
there like on a on a on a

1012
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Friday, so or on a Thursday.
So the next night, I think it's

1013
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Friday night, Nikki and I go
down after we eat dinner and

1014
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,800
stuff.
We go down to the bar just to

1015
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,320
have just to hang out.
You know, she gets a Michael

1016
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,800
Oboltro and I probably get a
fake beer.

1017
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Motherfucker sits down to seats
away from me and so, and then so

1018
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,640
I'm at the bar, right?
I got my little pencils and shit

1019
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,720
and I see the sit.
I see the chair cannot sit.

1020
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,400
You're fucking killing me.
And and then I put my hand on

1021
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,680
the bar and I kind of put my
hand on the chair next to me.

1022
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,400
I was like, what's up, man?
And he, he looks at me and you

1023
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,000
can see in his face he's like
what the fuck again?

1024
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,880
I'm.
Like you really got to stop

1025
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160
stalking me, bro.
Like it's getting a little

1026
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,360
weird.
So now he's laughing and then

1027
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,440
now he starts kind of really
we're engaging, you know, just

1028
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,240
kind of bullshit talking about
nothing really.

1029
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,520
Like really, we're not talking
about anything, not bringing up

1030
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,360
the movies and shit.
You know, just why you guys

1031
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,880
here?
Oh, we're running this marathon

1032
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,920
And like, why you're, oh, we're
having, we're doing, we're

1033
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,520
playing a show.
I'm like, that's cool.

1034
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,680
So even better.
The next night is the 30th.

1035
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,080
OK, Saturday night in the hotel.
Well, kidding.

1036
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,400
Play are playing Saturday night
33 levels above us because

1037
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,400
they're still playing.
Yeah, they're, they're playing a

1038
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,120
show.
Like everybody should know this.

1039
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Playing a show for Halloween.
Why all the marathon runners in

1040
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,160
the building are trying to
fucking sleep.

1041
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,560
So all you hear all night are
doors shutting, girls fucking

1042
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,880
running, people going up and
down the elevators and shit,

1043
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,200
people coming in and out of the
rooms loud as fuck because

1044
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,440
they're stoned, they're drunk,
they're partying, kitten plays

1045
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,160
upstairs doing their concert
shit it like in the ballroom or

1046
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,400
something they had at this
hotel.

1047
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,120
It's just insane.
So then I end up following him.

1048
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,960
I find him on.
Somebody did not think this

1049
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,360
weekend through.
No.

1050
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,440
So then I end up following him
on Instagram and realized that

1051
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,920
same era of time, he's launching
his own pot line.

1052
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,760
Yeah.
Right, so so then I start

1053
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,760
following.
Larry Bird.

1054
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,520
Yeah, so it was, it was, it was
funny, man.

1055
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,960
It was just, it was cool that
that we just naturally kept

1056
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,800
bumping into each other.
And then by the time before the

1057
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,240
concert night, he like literally
he just, he's fine.

1058
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:56,440
Like fuck it, I just got to
talk.

1059
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,360
To this motherfucker.
So rewinding all the way back to

1060
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,680
the beginning, I would hope that
in some minuscule part of his

1061
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:10,200
fucking brain he realized that
he's not as big as he once was

1062
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,680
by your initial inner.
Well, and and I wasn't being

1063
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,760
like who the.
Fuck are you?

1064
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,320
I know you're not like it and
that's why it became.

1065
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,360
That's why it's.
Funny.

1066
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,360
I'm going to say this, and it's
why it's funny.

1067
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:31,120
But you have to know you on the
level that I know you to have

1068
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,040
the reaction that I did.
That's why I laughed so fucking

1069
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,600
hard, because you have one of
the biggest hearts you will ever

1070
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,720
find in the world.
Thank you.

1071
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,840
But you say I don't have any
empathy.

1072
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,760
So I think the one thing that
you and Scott both had in common

1073
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,360
is neither one of you had any
empathy.

1074
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,560
So I've dealt with it in two
different ways.

1075
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,320
Right.
Yeah, Scott like to deal with it

1076
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,200
angrily a lot.
For some reason, he never did

1077
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,480
that towards me.
Maybe because he knew I didn't

1078
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,240
need it or that he could just
break me in half if he wanted to

1079
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,320
because I'm not a willing
participant, you know?

1080
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,120
I just don't like to fight.
Yeah, I think he just had a a

1081
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
respect on a level.
It's like it's not worth it, you

1082
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,440
know, probably.
But I.

1083
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Would I would say that, yeah.
I always appreciated your lack

1084
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,920
of empathy versus his because I
don't.

1085
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,480
I just don't like confrontation.
Why?

1086
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Why do we got to fucking yell
and scream and argue about shit?

1087
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320
You know, Why can't we just talk
it out like human beings?

1088
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Right.
Agreed.

1089
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,120
So yeah.
I I guess my point is that's

1090
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,640
what makes that story so funny,
because people would want to

1091
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,600
take you as annoying.
Yeah.

1092
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,760
In the beginning.
But you grow on people like a

1093
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,280
fucking wart, sometimes just
without them even realizing it,

1094
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Right.
And that's what happened to

1095
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,320
those dudes, you know?
Yeah, Because you like to have

1096
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,040
fun.
And I was thinking about this on

1097
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,560
the way home.
That's what makes all this.

1098
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,240
We're both wearing a black
fucking shirt.

1099
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,680
We don't plan this kind of
stuff.

1100
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,760
And I was literally thinking on
the way home.

1101
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,360
That's why I love talking to
you.

1102
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,040
Because I went from, I didn't
have a bad day, but I kind of

1103
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,320
had a blah, you know, it was
just like any other day.

1104
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,720
And I ended up having the best
laugh I've had all day just

1105
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,520
hearing that fucking story.
And I know how they felt, you

1106
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,320
know, because sometimes when you
don't want to laugh or you're

1107
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,920
having a bad day, there you are.
That's all I'm saying.

1108
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,720
You're frozen.
Uh oh.

1109
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Oh.
I'm back.

1110
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,960
OK, but I'm.
I'm stable.

1111
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,240
I wonder why he's doing that.
I'm on the right Internet, Yeah.

1112
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,600
You're here too.
Yeah, but yeah, No, I get you.

1113
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,960
Yeah.
And that's, yeah.

1114
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,360
I mean, like when I'm there's,
there's other people I met when

1115
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,680
I was doing my radio show, like
I met Steve O the Jackass thing.

1116
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,000
I he he was an odd person to
meet.

1117
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Because he just started his
sobriety and I was working for

1118
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,560
this, this company that their
whole thing was, was, was

1119
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,400
Rastafarian colors and shit and
selling one joint at a time was

1120
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,760
their saying it was, it was the
stupidest 6 months of my real

1121
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,040
estate career ever.
And legit I was, I, I offered

1122
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,240
him a shirt.
He looks like he's like, no, I

1123
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,800
just find out.
No, I was like, can I ask why?

1124
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,520
He's like because I'm I'm that's
not me man.

1125
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,080
It's you, you one joint at a
time.

1126
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,320
That's not me.
And then he told me because I

1127
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,600
didn't follow Jackass, he's
like, you know, I've been sober

1128
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,440
for, you know, six months.
I'm like, oh, good for you, man.

1129
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
And I was like, whatever, I
listen, yeah, I'm like 12.

1130
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,440
Years sober.
Listen, yeah.

1131
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,520
Here's why I would have fucked
his world up.

1132
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,680
Nobody's sober from marijuana,
you fucking pussy, right?

1133
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,680
You either smoke it or you don't
smoke it.

1134
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,880
There's no Oh my God, I got.
I have my weed, you know, unless

1135
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,040
you're fucking stupid.
But I but we don't.

1136
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,160
Know because he wasn't an
engaging personality that was

1137
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,240
going to give.
He would, he did 3 hours on

1138
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,040
Rogan after long after.
So that's cool that you actually

1139
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,120
talked to him when he was newly
sober, because I think he had

1140
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,160
been sober for, well, what time
frame would that have?

1141
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:06,920
Been it was.
It was.

1142
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,480
My show was six years ago, so
2000.

1143
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,360
Well, wait, no, this is 25 now,
so eighteen, 2018, I think.

1144
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,240
Yeah, so. 2017 2018 went March
to March.

1145
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,120
He might have had like another
year or two in when he finally

1146
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,760
agreed to go on and.
Talk to Joe.

1147
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,960
Gotcha.
And he did seem like he was

1148
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,160
pretty touchy about, you know,
whether he was still hanging in

1149
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,160
there with it.
He he was still sober.

1150
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,400
But you know, I think it you
remember in the beginning it's

1151
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,320
touch and go for a long time.
Well, and I think I think a lot

1152
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,680
of people too, because when,
when, when somebody who's has

1153
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,360
various addictions, like we had
Mike on our friend Mike, right

1154
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,320
and he had various levels of
addiction.

1155
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,440
It wasn't just one thing.
There was, there's, he kind of

1156
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,880
alluded to it, but we didn't go
in detail.

1157
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,960
Right, I went through the same
thing.

1158
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,920
So I think that potentially when
when you're stepping out of that

1159
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,120
lifestyle because it that's
what.

1160
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,360
It is Mike and I stories are
eerily fucking similar.

1161
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,200
Right and it's a lifestyle like
you're it's all-encompassing yes

1162
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,720
so and I and I'm kind of
thinking that's how it was for

1163
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,040
Steve O don't know, making the
assumption here, but that may

1164
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,280
have been his defense mechanism
like I can't just do that

1165
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,720
because that will lead to that
like like.

1166
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,920
And I think he did, you know,
now that you say that, it

1167
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,360
triggers my memory.
And I do believe that he said

1168
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,360
almost exactly that when he was
talking to like, if I get high

1169
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800
with you guys then I'm going to
be smoking crack on fucking 10th

1170
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,600
St. in LA or whatever.
It's kind of, it's kind of like

1171
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,440
smoking cigarettes, right?
When you go to the bar, if

1172
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,600
you're if you stop smoking
cigarettes and then you go to

1173
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,160
the bar, what's the first thing
you want to have?

1174
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,240
And there are people that, you
know, that's why people say,

1175
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,880
well, marijuana is a gateway
drug.

1176
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,720
I suppose it could be for some
people.

1177
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,320
It's it's only a gateway if, if,
if that's what they started

1178
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,880
with.
So yeah, I, I think so.

1179
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,480
I don't.
You and I both agreed that we

1180
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,480
don't think POTS a gateway drug.
You know I don't.

1181
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,680
I mean, it could be introducing
somebody to that euphoric

1182
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,760
feeling, but I only think those
people that have deep rooted

1183
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,920
addiction issues are the ones
that that it starts that way and

1184
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,400
then and that it opened the
door.

1185
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,560
But I don't think it was a
gateway.

1186
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,960
Well, and not to get too far
away from that, that Steve O

1187
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,880
subject, his would be a
reintroduction to a Radix

1188
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,680
lifestyle, right?
That's what I had to be careful

1189
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:36,680
of is can I have just two or
three beers or can I have just

1190
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,840
1/2 a joint, right, and be happy
with it and not smoke it all day

1191
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,040
every day and have to want it
and not really want it.

1192
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,600
But you know, for me, you hit
the nail on the head.

1193
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,400
At one time, that was a
lifestyle for me.

1194
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,520
I didn't go, I didn't go to work
like everybody else, 9:00 to

1195
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,080
5:00.
And I didn't have a job that

1196
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,400
demanded that I be there certain
hours and do certain tasks.

1197
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,160
And it was like, you know, I had
a skill set that nobody else had

1198
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,400
at that time.
And I could come and go as I

1199
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,720
pleased and do what I wanted
because there was like 5 people

1200
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,720
in the entire valley that could
do what we did.

1201
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,960
You know, that all changed when
the digital camera came out.

1202
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,720
But there was a time I had a
skill set that was highly sought

1203
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,120
after.
The people that owned the

1204
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,120
company didn't know how to run
the machine that I did.

1205
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,640
So you kind of just do what you
want at that point.

1206
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,120
So you're right, lifestyle is a
good way to put.

1207
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,680
It yeah.
Because you don't, you don't

1208
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,200
know, like, like when I stopped
drinking, like and, and when

1209
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,800
Nikki realized that I was legit
going to stop drinking, she

1210
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,080
stopped drinking Like there was
no booze in our house, like at

1211
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,880
all.
You know, now there, now there

1212
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,400
is because I'm 20 years into it,
20 plus years into it.

1213
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,440
So there's.
There's a little 8 pack of baby

1214
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,520
fireballs in the outside fridge
and I have no desire to touch

1215
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,280
them because that's, that's
just, you know, that's not who I

1216
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:52,880
am.
Right.

1217
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,880
I look at it on a deeper human
level.

1218
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,800
I think it's cool that you allow
her to be her own human being.

1219
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,000
And if she wants to do that on a
Saturday night, right?

1220
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,720
You know she's entitled to do
that because she wasn't an

1221
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,120
alcoholic, right?
Exactly.

1222
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,680
To me, that's the ad verbal
quality.

1223
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,640
You know, I I have said this on
the podcast.

1224
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,360
I probably haven't said it in
long enough.

1225
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Before we ever started doing
this, I asked you if it bothers

1226
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,760
you if I drank a beer while we
were sitting here.

1227
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,680
He did and it doesn't.
So nobody said anything about

1228
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,440
that in a long time.
But you know, Joe said something

1229
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,680
about it when we were headed out
to get food the other night.

1230
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,480
He said, man, like I feel like a
Dick.

1231
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,600
And I said, why?
He said, you know, I like to

1232
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,600
come over there and have a good
time with you and you know, I'm

1233
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,920
sitting there drinking and Chris
is talking about being fucking

1234
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,360
20 years sober.
And I said, trust me brother,

1235
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,160
he's fine with it.
I wouldn't let you sit there and

1236
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,360
do that in front of somebody who
I love, you know, like a

1237
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,320
brother.
That wouldn't happen.

1238
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,960
I would not embarrass you like
that.

1239
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,600
I would not offend somebody I
love like that.

1240
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,640
So, you know, we both got a
laugh at it.

1241
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,400
But but that's the kind of guy
that Joe is, you know?

1242
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,960
And that's cool.
He felt bad about that.

1243
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,520
And he's like, I'm trying to
have a good time.

1244
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,360
And this guy's telling me he's
20 years sober.

1245
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,480
And I'm like, fuck, man, I look
like a Dick.

1246
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,440
I said no, not at all.
I actually asked Chris before we

1247
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,080
started the podcast is, is this
going to bother you?

1248
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,560
Because if it is, I won't do it.
And you're like, hey, man, I've

1249
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,960
been sober 20 years, and I have
to be around it.

1250
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,920
It's all around us.
Yeah, that was the point you

1251
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,920
made.
Yeah, and like Nikki and I go

1252
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,160
dancing Saturday nights most
times and and denim and diamonds

1253
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,480
and it's a bar.
It's a big bar.

1254
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,200
It's a dancing bar.
We show up at about 6:15 because

1255
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,120
it's a free lesson from 6:30 to
7:30.

1256
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,000
We do that.
We hang out, you know, and then

1257
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,920
we usually out by 9 because by
9:00 the crowd starts piling in.

1258
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,360
And then you have people that
got there around 7:00 that are

1259
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,560
now two hours in the drinking.
And then, you know, it's just

1260
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,720
kind of like, OK, it's time to
go.

1261
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,320
And she respects that.
She knows I have limit when we

1262
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,920
go to a bar for something, she
knows I'm about two hours.

1263
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,520
And then that's kind of I'm
reaching my point because people

1264
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,160
start getting stupid and then I
start getting defensive because,

1265
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,440
you know, she's five, 215 lbs,
you know what I mean?

1266
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,240
We're dancing on the floor and
fucking she's getting.

1267
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,640
Elbowing and shit and that
doesn't fly with me.

1268
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,480
You know, it's like we, we know
how to do this country swing and

1269
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,720
you can legit do everything
within, you know, a A4 foot

1270
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,360
square space, right?
Like you don't have to leave

1271
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,880
that space.
If you, if you know what you're

1272
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,280
doing, you're doing it properly.
There's no reason in this little

1273
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,840
space I have on my desk right
here that we could completely

1274
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,160
dance and do all the moves and
shit we do without hitting

1275
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,440
anybody over there, over there,
over there, over there.

1276
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,040
But there's some people that
think that they fucking own the

1277
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,920
floor and they have to take, you
know, enough space for five

1278
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,320
people.
And it's like, and then they

1279
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,040
start when they rub it, when
they when they she got fucking

1280
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,760
elbowed in the nose one night
because this dude fucking spun

1281
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,040
his girl and and her elbow just
went and and I'm like,

1282
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,680
motherfucker, like, you know,
and I don't I don't I don't ever

1283
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,320
want to go to blows either.
I've been in one fight my entire

1284
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,280
life.
So people don't fuck them

1285
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:09,400
because how I look right, But I
know I know how to defend myself

1286
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,280
if the situation presented
myself because I went through an

1287
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,000
entire executive training
program for like party guards

1288
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,480
and shit because they're like,
why not?

1289
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,120
That's a cool thing to learn.
So I you know, all kinds of shit

1290
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,240
I can do with just my hands with
you don't even realize that all

1291
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,320
of a sudden I got you subdued in
fucking 2 seconds.

1292
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,600
So it's it's that thing when
they don't respect the space and

1293
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,560
then she ends up being a
casualty.

1294
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,320
I'm like, I'm she knows I'm
fucking out.

1295
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,880
Like we just, we have to leave
because then my mood changes

1296
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,440
because it's then I'm, I'm
trying when you dance with

1297
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,400
somebody the way you're supposed
to dance with them, your, your

1298
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,680
eye contact the whole time
because you're dancing with

1299
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,200
them.
You're not dancing with the

1300
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,600
space there, the space there.
So when people are doing these

1301
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,360
intricate moves and, and spins
and stuff, as you turn, as you

1302
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,760
turn each other, you lock eyes
and you go back and you lock

1303
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,360
eyes because it's all about
movement.

1304
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,120
And you're basically, you're
basically I fucking each other.

1305
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,760
So when I have to start, when I
have to start watching dickhead

1306
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,240
over here and then this chick
over here and this couple over

1307
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,480
there as I'm doing these things
and it, it takes away from the

1308
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,920
element of the dance and what
we're trying to accomplish by

1309
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,560
having fun and connecting, blah,
blah, blah.

1310
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,520
So it's just like, OK, we got to
go.

1311
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,120
It's.
It's time to leave because it

1312
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,319
just.
So am I to assume by the story

1313
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:21,680
that country dancing is still
very popular?

1314
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:27,000
It is very popular.
We, we it's.

1315
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,520
Here's the thing though there.
Used to be a station years ago.

1316
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,640
You know, like I didn't have
cable, so I only got so many

1317
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,640
stations.
When I lived in Phoenix, right,

1318
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,120
There used to be a country
station that was on that played

1319
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,080
some dancing show from
Nashville.

1320
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,920
It was like simulcast or
whatever.

1321
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,240
Yeah, So it was popular in the
90s, probably K and a extra

1322
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,439
camel country, one of the two,
because that's only two country

1323
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,880
stations.
Yeah, so now Sirius says prime

1324
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,200
country they do on Saturday
nights.

1325
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,040
Because no, this was ATV station
that had country dancing.

1326
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,840
Oh.
OK, oh, maybe it was talking.

1327
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,960
About CMT or some.
Shit, wild horse.

1328
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,319
Saloon.
That's what it was.

1329
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,359
Yep, I know what you're talking.
About and the only reason I

1330
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:07,800
watched it, I turned the volume
off because they had good

1331
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,920
looking chicks Sure on it.
Yeah, yeah.

1332
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,960
Yeah.
Same reason people watch Soul

1333
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,560
Train in the 70s.
Or 80s, right?

1334
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,200
And it's the one cool thing
about it.

1335
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Good looking women is Oh yeah,
when they do, when they do the

1336
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,120
line dancing, right.
I don't stay on the floor for

1337
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,960
line dancing because line
dancing is for women.

1338
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,640
Guys, women, line dance.
Yeah, guys, look like.

1339
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Men, you don't line dance, OK?
Like we had somebody teaching.

1340
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,279
You can it all help it.
Right.

1341
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:36,439
We had a dancing instructor who
teaches these lessons every

1342
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,680
Saturday and it was like 200
bucks.

1343
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,160
You don't look cool.
Yeah, to get us a dance lessons

1344
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,319
and he told us that because
Nikki had asked about a line

1345
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,279
dance and he's like he looks at
me, he's like you line dance.

1346
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:47,160
I'm like, no, he's like good
because and he made.

1347
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,800
Very misogynistic comic that I'm
not going to repeat, but men

1348
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,640
shouldn't line dance, right?
For obvious reasons right now

1349
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,280
when the.
Floor is full.

1350
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,840
When the floor is full, OK,
whether it's it's 90% women and

1351
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,560
then you have some of the guys
are trying to be cool, it's

1352
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,840
pretty bad ass when they're
doing the line dance and they're

1353
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,040
all in unison.
Like it's, it's, it's kind of

1354
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,000
like, it's kind of like a
Pantera concert when you're

1355
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,520
walking and everybody's you
know, or Metallica and

1356
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,720
everybody's doing.
But when you're like legit this

1357
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,280
far away from the floor and you
see 100 people on the stands

1358
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,440
floor, it's it's kind of cool.
It's I won't be going to lie.

1359
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,560
I'm not going to go out and
learn that shit because it's,

1360
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,600
I've turned it a couple of
times.

1361
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,160
So I'm like, fuck this, this
doesn't work for me.

1362
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,960
Guys don't do that.
No, it's nice to watch Nikki do

1363
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,200
it because then she spends her
eyes to your cute little ass and

1364
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,440
she's kicking her boots and
stuff.

1365
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,760
You know, it's like.
It's funny you bring that up

1366
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,880
because I don't even know where
I recently saw it.

1367
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,520
My must YouTube video saw
something I don't know but I was

1368
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,440
like guys should not line dance
man that just does not look good

1369
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,880
at all.
No line dancing.

1370
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:58,800
Your jeans are too tight and
you're making motions that you

1371
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,000
just shouldn't make.
Agreed, yeah.

1372
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,360
And and so I just, you know,
there's there, I will say there

1373
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,680
are some men that show up at the
enemy diamonds that they spent a

1374
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,520
lot of time.
Learning all these line dances

1375
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,960
and they pull them off Florida
State, but it's now come a

1376
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,760
couple of them because we know
enough people there.

1377
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,720
We don't know that we know them.
You know what I mean?

1378
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,000
Like, oh, that's country dance
guy and.

1379
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,120
I'm not saying guys shouldn't
dance, I'm saying guys shouldn't

1380
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,520
line dance.
Right, I agree with you, but

1381
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,400
there's.
Going to be a ballet guy, I'm

1382
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,280
fine with that, right?
But there's a couple.

1383
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,880
So stupid.
There's a, there's a, there's a.

1384
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,840
It does, but there's a couple.
People off right now, I know

1385
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,160
that, but.
It just, you know, controversy

1386
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,640
man sells tickets.
But there's there's a couple of

1387
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,200
them that line dance, but they
are instructors.

1388
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,040
They teach country dancing.
So I can see why they're out

1389
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,760
there doing that, because they
want to get the girls.

1390
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,040
Getting paid.
Well, they're not getting paid,

1391
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,560
but they're, they're out there.
No, they're out there to recruit

1392
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,760
people.
That's how.

1393
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,160
OK.
No, but this is how we decided

1394
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,920
taking line dance or taking
dance lessons.

1395
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,560
Daniel.
Daniel was the teacher.

1396
01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:13,880
OK, Daniel was the teacher.
Denim and diamonds, so he

1397
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,800
references.
He's teaching more than line

1398
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,600
dancing.
He doesn't teach line dancing.

1399
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,520
This is why I'm but this, this
is where I'm going with it.

1400
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,600
OK, so so Daniel would say after
after the.

1401
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,240
Night killing me.
I want to like Daniel.

1402
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,040
Well, you are.
I'm explaining it.

1403
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,160
OK, OK, so Daniel doesn't teach
slang dancing.

1404
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,160
Daniel teach country swings.
So one of the one of the fourth

1405
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,600
or fifth times we were there, I
caught him saying after the

1406
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,480
lesson, hey, if you guys want
one on ones, find me after, I'll

1407
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,920
be over here.
So I went over that like, dude,

1408
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,040
you teach, you teach, you can
teach us to dance better because

1409
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,600
Nikki loves to dance.
He's like, yeah, I have private

1410
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:52,000
lessons that cost this much, you
know, half an hour once a week

1411
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,720
for six weeks.
Perfect.

1412
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,200
Sign us up.
So we went and honed our skills

1413
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,360
and learned little tricks to the
trade, like how to stand and how

1414
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,680
to move your feet and the whole
eye concept thing.

1415
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,000
And then Nikki had asked about
line dancing and that's where he

1416
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,240
looked at me.
He's like, you line dance.

1417
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,280
I was like I said, I've tried a
couple of times and he's like

1418
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,320
basically without.
I don't remember exactly what he

1419
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,520
said like.
You're a man, you're not a

1420
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,120
pussy.
Don't go line dancing.

1421
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,040
I'm like, OK, I'm cool with
that.

1422
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,520
We just, you know, and and.
Couldn't agree with Daniel

1423
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,000
Moore.
So, and Daniel's kind of an

1424
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,440
interesting character.
He's he's, he's kind of an actor

1425
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:32,200
per SE.
He's been on, he said he was on

1426
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,560
CSI Miami as a recurring, you
know, extra.

1427
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,280
Cop role type thing and.
Hasn't everybody?

1428
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,040
Right, He's he's he's I think
he's he's a good funny.

1429
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,440
No, he's a good guy.
And but he teaches every

1430
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:45,440
Saturday.
That's one of his gigs.

1431
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:48,480
So while I was getting at it.
So there's a couple other people

1432
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,880
that show up there that we've
seen consistently enough that

1433
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,840
they're actual, they're country
dancers.

1434
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,720
One guy's a it's a trip.
He's a black guy, but the dude's

1435
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,320
fucking smooth as silk on
everything he does.

1436
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,040
And when he's out there line
dancing, no, and he's out there

1437
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,080
line dancing, it's like legit,
he's just, it's amazing.

1438
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,160
So he's out there because he's
recruiting people on the dance

1439
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,080
floor.
Hey, you want to learn how to

1440
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,040
line dance and country swing?
I teach lessons.

1441
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Here's my card, right?
It's no different than then, you

1442
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,080
know, somebody wanting going to
a, you know, a convention

1443
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,960
selling their product behind a
booth.

1444
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,480
He's just selling his product on
the dance.

1445
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:31,200
Floor.
So are you going to take dance

1446
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,280
lessons from somebody that
you've never seen dance or.

1447
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,720
Are you going to?
Take dance lessons from somebody

1448
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,080
who's out there.
Like holy shit that dude's

1449
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,000
smooth.
You're still proving my point.

1450
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,880
He's still getting paid on the
end.

1451
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,560
Agreed.
He is getting paid on the end.

1452
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,960
He's out.
There's no different than you

1453
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,520
soliciting, right?
Hey, I'm a real estate agent.

1454
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,400
If you want to sell or buy, I'm
your guy, right?

1455
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,480
Right.
Exactly.

1456
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,160
Yep, same concept.
Same exact concept.

1457
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,400
Yeah.
So there you go.

1458
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,480
I'm just trying to help him.
I'm justifying why he gets to

1459
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:02,640
line dance and nobody else does.
Daniel doesn't line dance the

1460
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,920
black.
I know Daniel does.

1461
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,160
Yeah, he won't.
I'm justifying why the other

1462
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,040
guys get to line dance and
nobody else does.

1463
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,160
Because in the end, they're
getting paid right dollars.

1464
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,600
It's part of their job.
Well, Daniel's the only one

1465
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,920
that.
Says men shouldn't line dance.

1466
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,800
There's other men that obviously
think they should line dance

1467
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:18,800
because they're out there line.
Dancing.

1468
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,960
I disagree.
That's where I'm going with

1469
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,680
this.
So if anybody wants to come on

1470
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,000
and debate us and tell me why
you should get to line dance,

1471
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,920
I'm sure they're going to say
because it's a free fucking

1472
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,440
country and you have a valid
point.

1473
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,680
Right.
It's a free country.

1474
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,120
All right, we're going to wrap
this up.

1475
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,080
I got to get ready.
OK, brother.

1476
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,240
This is this flew by.
This was fast good.

1477
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,600
Times must have been fun.
It was fun.

1478
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,960
What did we talk about?
Music, man, I know music is us.

1479
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,480
You know, our favorite, our
favorite topic of, of

1480
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:51,720
discussion.
So I'm going to go check out,

1481
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,200
I'll check out the Guns and
Roses thing tonight.

1482
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,160
I'll let you know what to think
about.

1483
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,240
That yeah, I'm almost positive
it's on Amazon Prime.

1484
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,480
OK, cool.
Right on.

1485
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,680
As we always say, don't let the
bad days win.

1486
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,960
Tomorrow is a better day.
So if you're feeling distraught

1487
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,920
and depressed, you know Somebody
Loves You.

1488
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,920
Somebody will miss you.
So don't be that person that

1489
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,120
leaves a gap in somebody's soul.
Because you left without talking

1490
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,160
to them and sharing your
feelings and concerns.

1491
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,840
Somebody's always around to
listen.

1492
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,720
So if you don't have somebody to
do that, Google.

1493
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,240
Google to help.
Google Machine.

1494
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,440
Absolutely, yeah.
So thank you, thank, thanks to

1495
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:26,000
everybody who's out there
listening and we appreciate all

1496
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,560
you.
We wouldn't be doing this if

1497
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,880
everybody didn't keep listening.
So I say it every time we

1498
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,840
release an episode.
We appreciate you guys

1499
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,960
listening.
We appreciate you sharing us and

1500
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,400
absolutely growing and doing it
and doing better things.

1501
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,480
So thanks for being out there.
Yep, nothing but love.

1502
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:43,280
People absolutely love you
brother.

1503
01:16:43,440 --> 01:17:29,480
Love you too man Peace, peace.
Where you will go behind your

1504
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:30,120
eyes.
Take a moment.

1505
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:58,160
Come down here, you haven't
bounced out it and see yourself.

1506
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,760
You won't fight him.
Wait for the dead.

1507
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,680
When?
You're supposed to arrive and

1508
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:06,960
get put in the wind.
You.

1509
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,680
Ain't no.
Creature, we're playing fire and

1510
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,360
you, could you quit On the
almighty day?

1511
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,560
You got a dream.
Who is your life?

1512
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:28,080
To keep our soul in every man.
Take your turn behind your eyes.

1513
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:37,480
Feel the soul revolution now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1514
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,200
yeah, yeah.
Take a moment.

1515
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,520
We can see you.
See him.

1516
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,080
Put the bail in to you.
More clear.

1517
01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:19,380
You gotta, you gotta.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.