#198 - Dean Morgan - Actor/Writer/Director

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Unknown Speaker (0:57): Hey. Welcome, boys and girls, the Chris and Mike show. I'm Chris. He's Mike. This is Dean Morgan.

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Chris (1:16): We're going to go on an elevator ride with Dean Morgan because he's going tell us who he is, why he's here, and what he's all about.

Unknown Speaker (1:23): Welcome, Dean.

Mike (1:24): Hi, guys. How y'all doing?

Unknown Speaker (1:27): We're good, man. Are you? Oh,

Mike (1:29): pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. So, basically, I am an actor, producer, director, and writer for, Machine Gun.

Unknown Speaker (1:37): Machine Gun.

Mike (1:38): I made 18 films and you can watch them all on YouTube right now if you like.

Unknown Speaker (1:43): I would love that.

Mike (1:44): And you like, if you like flapstick, you like, Adam

Unknown Speaker (1:48): Love it.

Mike (1:48): Stooges and pies in the face and fart jokes, like all my

Unknown Speaker (1:52): stuff. Okay. Right on.

Unknown Speaker (1:54): What's your YouTube channel?

Unknown Speaker (1:55): Little adult humor, but for the most part it's all, well, I'd say PG 13, I guess.

Unknown Speaker (2:03): What's your YouTube channel, Dean?

Unknown Speaker (2:06): YouTube is Sheldon Masjugada.

Chris (2:09): Yeah. Hold on. Hold on, Mike, a great question. This is why we do this because Mike just had a great question and that's how I was already Johnny on the spot. There we go.

Chris (2:20): The Sheldon Masuguna channel. Ask a new Shell receipt. Wow. 100,000 subscribers, dude. That's Nice.

Chris (2:27): That rocks. I think you I think you win for the the most subscribers that came on our show. So here's Sheldon. Let's just talk about Sheldon. He's a live collection of Sheldon and James award winning comedy shorts all in one show, Sheldon Mushugana, an outrageous quick witted character comedian known for fusing storytelling with off the cuff improvisation.

Chris (2:49): Think high energy New York meets late night chaos. I love that. Nice job. Absolutely. That's awesome, man.

Unknown Speaker (2:55): Well, thanks. Very awesome. Yeah.

Mike (2:58): It's a lot of lot of fun doing the character's a lot of fun to do as well. I mean, I enjoyed doing the character. We worked, we worked on it from since the, I created a Sheldon back in 2015. Okay. From a, from a friend of mine and we, we talked to actually the actual idea came from back, back as far as 1976, because in '76, have you ever heard of it in in Chicago, a a radio, a place called the loop?

Unknown Speaker (3:25): Absolutely. Yeah. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (3:27): Mike's I downstate in Pontiac, Dean.

Mike (3:30): Oh, okay. Well, I'm I'm born I'm born and raised Chicago. I was, I I came to I came to Dallas. I live in Dallas, Texas, right now, but it was since '81, but I was born in I'm born in the nineteen sixties, so that makes me 66. But when I was 16 years old, I I came up with this deal on the loop, whereas it was a April fool's day joke, and it was called little the shoulder machine gun and little brown things that float in the water.

Mike (3:58): And it was and I couldn't forget that I heard that. It's just always funny because and Little Brown Things obviously know what that is.

Unknown Speaker (4:09): Right. Right.

Mike (4:10): And so and so it it was an aria, so they kept singing. So years later, a friend of mine named Jason and I got together, we we were calling each other Sheldon all those years. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna make this Sheldon into a real person. So I I trademarked it, put it together, and knocked it out, and then I started playing.

Mike (4:27): And then one day, said, you know what? I need to make a film. So I started the first one you'll see on the YouTube that that you look at is the is the best one that is a short called School of Idiots.

Chris (4:37): I saw that when I when I looked up your stuff because when you go when I go and I share things whoops. Hold on. Let's stop sharing that one. I go where was it? I just I swear I saw it.

Chris (4:49): Keep talking. I'll find it.

Mike (4:51): That's okay. School of Idiots was the first one I did. I I thought I thought of when I did that, I thought of Cheech and Chong. Oh, yeah. That's when I started out with Chi Ching Chung.

Mike (5:00): Then then I thought three dudes with pies and then and fart jokes, all all in the same six and a half minute deal. And And if you watch it, you just can't stop watching it because it's so unbelievably funny. And so I didn't realize, you know, I just did the thing and Beverly, my agent, I did, you know. Hi Beverly. Beverly Brock, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (5:26): Yeah.

Mike (5:26): Oh, yeah. I'm gonna send her the the film, but I I was hesitant as because, you know, a lot of females don't like slapstick. So I wasn't sure if I wasn't sure if they wish she would actually like it or not. Yeah. And so I sent it to her and I said, let me see what and I didn't think anything of it.

Mike (5:43): And she said, my God, you need to put these on the film festivals. That's how good these are. I said, Really? Film festivals? I said, What is that?

Mike (5:50): So she taught me all about film festivals. Well, the first time I submitted it, I won, won, I won, I won. I Nice was like, what is going on here? So I have no idea. So I started making more shorts.

Mike (6:07): Mean, there's if you look through all the other ones, I even made a black and white one that's it's it's really it's it's called Picture Me This. It's basically me running around after James taking his picture. And he doesn't it came from an old show back in back in the day with Marty Feldman that was done that that no one ever even seen on television. It was a black and white. And basically, Marty Feldman was, in a in a clown house with, running after this poor man in in, Great Britain or London, trying to take his picture and wherever he went, he was taking his picture.

Mike (6:47): So he ended Including all the way down to where he goes into his house, and he turns the TV on, and there he is taking his picture from a television. -Fun. -So I went ahead and copied that from that thing. That was back in 1968. -Wow.

Mike (7:03): -And I I remembered it because it was so funny. I I almost peed in my pants. It was a funny one. I was like, I I have to do this one. -Yeah.

Mike (7:11): -So but then I I kept submitting all these films to the film festivals, and I won over 650 awards.

Chris (7:20): Wow. You've just now you're the most award winning actor, producer, director we've ever had on our show. Nice job, Beverly. Way way to hook us up with with Dean. That's fantastic, Dean.

Chris (7:31): That's amazing.

Mike (7:32): Well, some some of the awards are like I got I got what it's called, like, an EGOT for for indie. So, basically, you got the Grammy, the Oscars. I got several Oscars, several Emmys, several a Tony, a Grammy. Now the, we're the Tony was kind of weird, but it was a screenplay, Tony, they call it. And the Grammy was a screenplay Grammy.

Mike (7:56): So I don't know. Which is weird.

Unknown Speaker (7:58): So back so, so back up. You have an Oscar?

Unknown Speaker (8:02): I've got, well, I got an indie Oscar. It's not the same thing as an Oscar Oscar.

Unknown Speaker (8:05): The equivalent for the independent films.

Unknown Speaker (8:09): Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got more than one. That's cool

Unknown Speaker (8:11): dude. It

Unknown Speaker (8:12): is. Yeah, no doubt play that. That's outstanding.

Mike (8:15): Wow. Now, you know, an Oscar is actually very heavy. I, one of the, one of the awards I got, I, I actually got from the place to actually make the Oscar. And it's, let me show it to you real quick. It's, I go over here.

Chris (8:28): It's Yes, please. Show us all your bling.

Mike (8:31): Yes. That's cool. Is a real heavy piece, but this came from the exact place they actually make the Oscars. And this is one

Unknown Speaker (8:38): that's Show one of show show that again.

Unknown Speaker (8:42): That is so

Unknown Speaker (8:42): cool, That's awesome, man. That's fucking awesome.

Unknown Speaker (8:44): What's that say on the front? We, we got, we've got, like I said, I, I didn't get, you gotta pay for these. You're not, you're not free of four. You

Unknown Speaker (8:53): the award. You win the by the way, now you gotta pay for it. That's funny. It's funny. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (9:00): But still, man, that's cool.

Mike (9:03): Well, it's not just here. I mean, my biggest, most, most popular place is India, believe it or not. India. Okay. India.

Mike (9:13): Won probably over, I don't know, two fifty awards in India alone.

Unknown Speaker (9:17): Wow.

Mike (9:19): The, the, yeah, people in India love Sheldon and, and the Philippine Island. I have a friend of mine working, working, worked for me in there and then I asked him, his name is Archie. I says Archie, what are you who are you watching on TV? You. I said, That's awesome.

Mike (9:34): You're watching me on TV? Are you kidding me? Nope. Everybody watched Sheldon. Everybody loves Sheldon.

Mike (9:40): I said, you know, that's funny stuff. So it's it's always fun It's to do always fun. We have a couple of let's see. We got one. This one is this one that came from Big Bend.

Unknown Speaker (9:55): It's London. This is from London.

Unknown Speaker (9:58): Oh, that's really cool too.

Unknown Speaker (9:59): That is way cool.

Mike (10:00): Yeah. We got some from Hong Kong.

Dean Morgan (10:05): Now let me ask you this, Dean. Does that star signify the independent side?

Mike (10:11): I don't know what the star is actually, honestly.

Dean Morgan (10:13): I noticed they're both stars at the top and they're from two different places.

Unknown Speaker (10:17): We have stars in all of them, actually.

Dean Morgan (10:19): That must signify the independent side versus the Grammy or not the Grammy, the Oscar side.

Unknown Speaker (10:24): The actual, yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (10:26): I wonder if that's their symbol.

Mike (10:27): It could, it could be. I, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a, an Oscar for Indy or Emmy, I've won so many of these, just stopped counting.

Dean Morgan (10:38): I was gonna say until you started winning them all, now you know they exist.

Unknown Speaker (10:41): Right. But here's the kicker, not on just one film, it's on all of my film.

Unknown Speaker (10:46): That's amazing, man.

Mike (10:48): It's not That's amazing. I I submit all my films, but I get rewards on all my films. It's not just one. It's just like and I got multiple. It's just and then and then I create another character as you'll see on my on YouTube just for fun.

Unknown Speaker (11:01): It's he's he's called he's called the Macher, m a c h e r. The Macher.

Unknown Speaker (11:07): Okay. The

Mike (11:08): And so Macher is it's completely different character. And if you look, you look it up on the YouTube, it it a little more guttural humor.

Unknown Speaker (11:17): Yeah.

Mike (11:18): A little, a little more guttural humor. And, basically he's more of a Chicago accent, Chicago, New York accent. I wear a mustache and glasses and, he's,

Chris (11:33): I did see him on your I did see him on your YouTube page. Yep. Scrolling through your face I'm I'm scrolling through your Facebook photos right now as you share your life resume with us, which is is that the wife?

Unknown Speaker (11:45): That's my wife. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (11:47): Hello, wife. Hello, wife. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out to the missus.

Unknown Speaker (11:53): Here's something I noticed on his YouTube page, Chris.

Unknown Speaker (11:55): Okay. Okay.

Dean Morgan (11:56): So you we noticed you had a 107,000 subscribers. One thing that I like to see is how many views people have. Yeah. He has 58 videos, which makes sense because you're making basically short movies. Right.

Dean Morgan (12:10): Or full length movies. Some of them are an hour long. Right. He has almost 3,000,000 views. Right.

Dean Morgan (12:16): Which which

Chris (12:17): jives which jives with his subscribers. And we've talked reason why Mike Mike Mike brings that up, Sheldon, is we refuse to pay for followers and subscribers and for views. So we've done everything on this show organically. A 198 episodes has all been organic growth. Like, we've haven't paid for anything.

Chris (12:33): But when we see people that come on the show, not you, but we've seen people out there that have a 100,000 views and they'll have or I'm sorry, a 100,000 subscribers and they'll have, like, 20,000 views. So that just screams, I bought subscribers. Where yours is legit, it's like you have the subscribers and you have the views that coincide with that. So that gives you even more credibility as an artist because your stuff is genuine and real. You didn't go in and buy stuff.

Chris (13:01): You actually just grew this thing because of your fan base and people love you, which is fantastic, man. Oh, Look

Unknown Speaker (13:06): at it. You can tell

Unknown Speaker (13:07): people are

Dean Morgan (13:08): super engaged.

Mike (13:09): Yeah. Everywhere I go, I went to the Oscar, an Oscar party, yeah, recently to Elton John's.

Unknown Speaker (13:14): Yeah. Oh, right on. How was that?

Mike (13:16): And and I was it was kinda cool. You know, you walk in the door and you you get to see a lot of a listers, but but but I was well, it was kind of weird. Well, the first thing is when I walked in the door have have you all ever been there? No. No.

Mike (13:31): Okay. So I walk in the door and then I when I walked through the red carpet, I didn't realize there was TV or TV, what do you call it, cameras on. And I walked around and as I walked down there and I had one camera in my face and I said hi and I kept on walking. Well, a couple of days later I noticed a couple of friends of mine came up to me and says, hey, I saw you on the red carpet in Oscars. I said, you did?

Mike (13:57): I I didn't really really realize that the cameras were on. So I thought over a billion people saw me while I was out there. That's cool, man. Wow. And I was got but then I met a guy I met a guy there that his name was Kurt Young and he he gave he's given me an opportunity to do a PBS, ABC TV show.

Unknown Speaker (14:17): Oh, So

Mike (14:19): that in fact, that's what that's my four appointment today. Are we just wanna I just signed an NDA, so he's got a he's owns a New Mexico, film, industry, out there in Albuquerque. And he owns a studio. And so, I didn't know who the guy was, but he and I hit it off. We were real good friends.

Mike (14:40): All of a sudden, now I'm gonna be starring in a -GREGORY: big television show, in Hollywood. So

Unknown Speaker (14:46): That's awesome, dude. -GREGORY:

Mike (14:48): That just happened. Kind of cool. So

Unknown Speaker (14:50): And when does the when is the I I know you sent an NDA, so obviously you can't, like, go into big details, but it's it's something that's coming soon?

Mike (14:59): Well, we're we're we're gonna probably shoot I think he was planning on shooting something in June. So like like like the pilot. And then from there, whoever picks up whoever picks up the pilot will go from there,

Unknown Speaker (15:10): you know? Okay.

Mike (15:11): So I'm not I've never done a television show. I've been I've different been shows before, but not not a TV, a regular TV show. No. I mean, everything's been done by I wrote and directed Raiden and produced all the, all the shows from Sheldon and, and the Macha. Nice.

Unknown Speaker (15:26): Yeah. Yeah. I've got the Macha playing in the background right now.

Mike (15:29): Yeah. See that. The mock room, a lot of fun mock room, but if you like vulgar, vulgar language on a funny basis and a little bit of titties, that's okay. I'm

Unknown Speaker (15:44): going to be a fan, Dean. I can guarantee

Unknown Speaker (15:47): We, we I

Unknown Speaker (15:48): already subscribed to your channel.

Mike (15:49): We got a gap we we went to a gambling casino. We we snuck in at, the over here in Oklahoma and and shot a little bit inside there. And then, it was it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. I can't wait to watch them.

Unknown Speaker (16:03): I'm gonna unmute it a little bit here. Like, I've heard about that thing, in the line that they they basically steal the people's money and they use the tatas and stretcher stuff and everything else. And it sounds like a good one. Tell me some more about that.

Speaker 3 (16:17): Well, what we do, we get these females, you know, and they show their tatas and ask for money. And then they tell the guys that they're stranded in Mexico and they need a thousand dollars to get back home or else they'll get arrested and so will the guy that's participating. You know? Yeah. I think you'll like that.

Unknown Speaker (16:40): We just have to make sure that the the neuro is on here by then. Otherwise I'm doing shit.

Chris (16:46): No. No. Your character that you're playing off there across you, it kind of sounds like a little Mike Tyson influence.

Unknown Speaker (16:53): Yeah. I I told him it changes. He doesn't sound like that in real life. I had him change his voice. Yeah.

Mike (16:58): That's a big, it sound like something funny. Yeah. Originally we're doing all the New York type of event language. Says, you know what? I said, do a high pitched voice.

Mike (17:06): And he said, he did the high pitched voice and it worked out good.

Chris (17:09): Yeah. And it totally, I heard Mike Tyson. You know,

Unknown Speaker (17:12): agree with you. That's hilarious.

Mike (17:14): Yeah. It's all but we we actually had a jail, a jail cell bill and every every every in that movie, I brought back mozzie Python.

Unknown Speaker (17:24): Oh, mozzie, Mozzie Python.

Unknown Speaker (17:27): Monty Python.

Unknown Speaker (17:28): Monty Python. Monty Python. Okay. Thought you play I didn't thought should just spoof on. I thought you created Monty Monty Python's brother, Monty.

Unknown Speaker (17:34): So that's where my head went. That's where my head went right away because you're creative as fuck, man.

Mike (17:39): I appreciate that. No, you know, they, they remember, in, in, what's it called? John Cleese's, what is it called? Monty Python, the comfy chair. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:51): Like the comfy chair was in that movie. And that was, I was like, no, not the comfy chair, please. No. Mean, that type of thing was, so we just, we did the comfy, did the comfy chair and not that movie. That was fun.

Unknown Speaker (18:05): That's awesome, man.

Mike (18:07): But we'd, yes, I just kept a lot of stuff, like, one of one of the things on Christmas, for example. By the way, I did a Christmas Hanukkah thing, have a Jewish Christmas. Okay. And I I played, played Sheldon, of course. I also played played Hanukkah Harry.

Mike (18:24): K. And and that and and I had to dress up the part, and there was a long beard and a a hat. Yeah. You've Yeah. You've probably seen that on there, Have a Jewish Christmas.

Mike (18:39): Another one I did, a parody off of, Saturday Night Live was, Bob Ball's, Sheldon's Ball's, Sheldon's Ball's. Okay. That was, in the Saturday Night Live venue is called The

Unknown Speaker (18:55): Sweaty balls. Yes. Sweaty balls.

Mike (18:57): Yep. I did a version from, from that one. So I took the Sheldon's balls instead. And that was

Unknown Speaker (19:05): the That was a great episode. That was a great skit. Saturday Night Live has its moments, man. Some of the stuff they've done over the years are golden. Some of the other things is like, Really?

Chris (19:13): What? Just why did you do that?

Dean Morgan (19:16): Why? But you gotta remember, they tried to do it every week, so you're gonna miss on a lot of stuff, but you're right. Some of their stuff was just absolute legendary.

Chris (19:25): Well, think they get too political. I think they get too wrapped up in politics trying to poke fun at the government, which I get, but it's like, okay, you need to go out. You need to go find something else to be funny about now. Like start using your imagination more. Stop reading the headlines.

Chris (19:37): I think they've got away from the headlines. That'd be a much funnier show like it was back seventies, eighties, you know, just personal opinion. That's all. No. I agree with what you're

Unknown Speaker (19:46): saying.

Unknown Speaker (19:46): You need to go on Saturday Night man. Why don't you go audition for Saturday Night Live, Dean?

Mike (19:50): Well, I've actually done a I've done well, going back a little further on my on my like, when I was 19 years old, a friend of mine asked me to try.

Unknown Speaker (19:59): Yes. Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (20:16): Still here? Yeah, okay.

Unknown Speaker (20:17): Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mike (20:18): Okay, okay. So, so basically, I didn't realize how funny I was. I mean, she was the lady was absolutely crazy. I was nervous as hell because when I was on there, was like, don't have a clue on how to act or anything. I was not an actor.

Mike (20:34): Just You're just being yourself. I just being myself and I love improv stuff. It's just improv. So I got on the stage and I started acting goofy and funny. And and the lady in the back in the back, she said she fell off the chair.

Mike (20:50): That's how funny I was. Good. And I I I mean, and I said to I said to the director, he says he said, man, well, do you know how to play anything? I said, well, used to play the drum a little bit, but not not really not really. I'm a guy who could sing a little bit, but that's probably it.

Mike (21:03): So anyway, he ended up, he wanted me to come back, but I was 19, I was in college, I had no idea that I wasn't gonna even do acting at all at that point. Now years later, back in probably about ten plus years ago, there was a I was leading a show down here in Dallas from other at doctor's convention, and it ended up happening was they they had the Saturday Night Live guy was that worked Saturday the actual Saturday Night Live was here doing that show. He showed me exact he said he actually showed me how all the Saturday night actual Saturday Night Live stuff works behind the scenes and how they so, actually basically, we were three of us, and it was like a newscast type thing, and and I was one of the newscasters in the back. Sweet. I'm supposed to be on set someplace else.

Mike (21:50): I mean, so and there was three of us doing the same thing. So how they work it is they have three different monitors, and all three monitors have different colors. So it's all color coded. Really? Whatever your color is, know, left in red or green or yellow, whatever it is, you would just pick the color that's yours and then you go with the color.

Mike (22:11): So that's how Saturday Live works. I mean, they practice throughout the week, but they still have the monitor so that when they actually go on set, they actually look at and act out what it says on the screen. Now, at Saturday Night Live, actually handwrite it, physically handwrite it out, but they also have the monitors, so they do both. But the guy told me how good he says, Man, you're just a natural. It took you, what, what, three hours to do something?

Mike (22:37): Take something a week to do? I was like, I just just do it, man. I don't I don't think about do it. I mean Yeah. Even with Kurt Young, I told him, I says, if you don't mind, me do I mean, I'm like a Jim Carrey.

Mike (22:48): I give me the lines, but I'm gonna make up my own stuff. Yeah. Is that okay with you? He says, Oh, absolutely. I says, Okay.

Mike (22:55): You do your Dalton thing, you have fun doing that and you have fun. But starting out alive, it's all political. Have to talk to people that work about it. You have to be a really mega star that's been doing it for a long time and otherwise you can't even get on there. And on top of that, they don't even pay you worth a damn.

Mike (23:15): It's $100,000 a year, and you're living in New York, means you're making no money. And then that's the basic. And then, I forgot the guy's name, the the the black guy that's that's been there forever. He he makes

Unknown Speaker (23:33): three Keenan.

Unknown Speaker (23:33): Keenan. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (23:35): Yeah.

Mike (23:35): He Keenan makes 300,000 a year. Now now keep in mind keep in mind that these guys, know how many years he's been on that show?

Unknown Speaker (23:42): Oh yeah. Forever.

Unknown Speaker (23:44): Yeah.

Chris (23:44): So And he has residuals from his movies and shit. He did too. I'm Yeah.

Mike (23:48): But but he's a but 300,000, you know, they do only work physically work six months a year. I mean, the Saturday Night Live people, but the you know, the $300,000 is nothing. And mean, the time you get done saying and so basically that's if you don't mind doing that. And and second city, when I when they asked offered me the job there, I was $50 a day. I mean, it's no money.

Mike (24:09): I mean, so you don't make that much money with Oh,

Unknown Speaker (24:13): it's exposure.

Mike (24:15): Exposure. Mean, that's the-

Unknown Speaker (24:17): You're using it as a platform.

Unknown Speaker (24:19): Yeah. Yeah.

Mike (24:20): It's it's where your starting point and you go from the that's why some of these guys go and do major motion pictures and stuff like that. Know, they later on down the road and hopefully they'll make money.

Dean Morgan (24:29): Yeah. Well, that explains why, you know, Chris is concerned with them not having the skits like they used to. I don't think they have the talent that they used to. Think about No.

Unknown Speaker (24:40): They don't.

Dean Morgan (24:41): Think about Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood that Eddie Murphy did back in the day. Right? He made that legendary. Name me one person that's on Saturday Night Live right now.

Unknown Speaker (24:53): There's none. Yeah. Nobody.

Unknown Speaker (24:54): I I I can't even think of one person because I haven't watched it in ten years.

Mike (24:58): Yeah. It's not anywhere like the Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi and I and Chevy Chase.

Unknown Speaker (25:03): Chris Farley and yeah. Yeah.

Mike (25:05): Yeah. They don't have the talent like that, like we're used to watching. Mean, that's unfortunate, but I mean, I, I did know somebody, years ago. Her name was Maitland. She was a, Playboy, buddy.

Mike (25:21): And and I met her because of a I was taking somebody to the doctor and then she said to me, Why don't you take pick up my daughter at the airport? Not realizing who she was. But she but she was actually she she worked on Die Hard. She worked on

Unknown Speaker (25:38): I know. She worked

Mike (25:38): on Die Hard. She was she was the floozy blonde on Die Hard one, the first the first one. Okay. Up on the tower. You know?

Mike (25:46): Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And and she dated she actually dated John Belushi. Oh, And and at the time at that time she dated him, he was not he was not drugs or anything.

Mike (25:58): He he that was after the fact. And she was only, like, 25 years old back then, so Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (26:03): Of course,

Mike (26:03): you know, that was years ago. But but, you know, you just you meet these people over you know, you you get it's kinda cool how you run around and people don't even know all of a sudden you cool information and it's like, oh, okay, cool story.

Unknown Speaker (26:16): -So, -Yeah. You know That is awesome.

Mike (26:18): Yeah. Yeah, TV's always lot of fun do. And then we like I said, producing all these shows, you know, we've been doing it since 2015 now. So, little little by little, they they say it takes fifteen year fifteen years to to become, famous, I guess.

Chris (26:36): Yeah. That's what Beverly said. Beverly said ten. You can expect ten years to get from, from here to here.

Mike (26:42): Yeah. You can't, I mean, and I, I never thought I would be famous, honestly. I, and I really never thought. I, I just do this, I do this for fun. Now, now what do I do for my, in my real life?

Mike (26:52): Oh, well, my real life, we're not counting being a actor. I, I've, I've owned insurance agencies for forty two years. We, we started with, auto insurance and went, went to, commercial. Okay. And then, and then from there, in the interim, I have a I do I do a lot of different things.

Mike (27:10): I'm actually I'm I'm a rabbi.

Unknown Speaker (27:13): Okay.

Mike (27:13): I I do weddings. Have you ever heard have you heard of that TV show that's what's it called? A Netflix TV show, Love is Blind.

Chris (27:25): Love is Blind. Love that show. That chick in that show is amazing, and I was disappointed when I found out she was married to fucking Mark Sanchez. I'm like, seriously? You're way too hot to be married to Sanchez, man.

Chris (27:36): Way too hot. Yes, that was a great show. She was fantastic in that. Agreed. Sorry.

Mike (27:42): Well, Love Is Blind, I'm actually on that show. I actually married somebody on that show. Sweet. Season three episode 11.

Unknown Speaker (27:51): -Okay.

Mike (27:52): And there was a Being a rabbi, was the only Jewish person that got married got married in the whole the whole season the seasons. -Cool. -And she got -Right. They stayed married for four years, and they got divorced last December. But at least they, they were, it's, it's kind of, you know how the show works.

Mike (28:09): I mean, basically, know, you know, person for thirty days and get married. I mean, that doesn't- Yeah. Yeah. Expect it to work? No.

Unknown Speaker (28:16): Don't see how.

Mike (28:18): Mean, but that's this person, they they actually, you know, lasted four years. So that was pretty nice. Nice. But the after that, I went ahead and I and and also I did you've heard of you've heard of Obamacare, right? Oh yeah.

Mike (28:33): Okay. The healthcare stuff. Okay. So, I, I did had a hair up my ass one day and I says, you know what? I'm going to write, I'm going to write a, I happen to know all about healthcare.

Mike (28:43): So I'm going to, I'm going to write down a page and a half, article about, how to make, a healthcare program. So I sent, I sent the information to Obama by fax in Chicago. And I thought, nah, he's never gonna see it. He never gonna bother with it. He never Although this was right when he just became president and it went to his fax in Chicago.

Mike (29:06): And so lo and behold, two months later on CNN news, they're talking about my program on TV. And so, I'm like, that's not possible. I mean, they had no other program, but I have to take my my little outline and they made it into a program. So they didn't they may kind of messed it up a little bit. They didn't do it exactly the way I told them to do it, but but they they kind of got started.

Mike (29:27): So now years later, I decided, you know what? I need to fix the program. The program sucks. Let me, let me see if I can fix it to where it's supposed to see my, my objective was to stay away from the, the insurance companies entirely just do direct pay at a lower rate. So basically, for example, you go to a doctor and you pay $150 a month, you get to see them as many times as you want.

Mike (29:49): Wouldn't that be better than paying every time you go there, paying X amount of dollars, a co Absolutely. Pay

Unknown Speaker (29:56): The

Mike (29:57): pain, so why do all that? We decided to come up with, they have what is called concierge concept, which means you have a specialist like a heart specialist and you pay them let's say $400 a month or $300 a month and you get to see as many times as you want. Well this kind of concept, same kind of concept only it's on a co op basis. And so part of the program when they wrote it up, actually did

Unknown Speaker (30:25): Okay.

Mike (30:38): What's up happening was they were supposed to have the way I designed it was the people in the area are supposed to be able to pay that particular facility every month. Well, it turned out, they, instead of doing that, they went to the insurance company around and they ended up screwing it all up and having insurance companies get all the money. Therefore forgetting about all, forgetting all about the poor clinics that are just sitting around making no money and going bankrupt. So what ended up happening was a lot of the hospitals end up taking over the clinics. So my new program is called the lighthouse.

Mike (31:09): And the lighthouse, and they basically, it's a cool program. Right now we decided to go after the universities and we're starting this in India. Okay. So we have 52 lighthouses in India right now and we basically it's kind of like more of a mental health type thing. It's clear the air of your head, get stuff out of your head and make you feel better.

Mike (31:34): If you have issues with ADD, ADHD, bipolar disorders, schizophrenia, or any kind of suicidal tendencies or whatever, basically have 20 fourseven help on an app with a real person, not AI. Actually, people can actually help them out with it in a cheap rate. For example, in The States here, we're gonna charge $500 a month for that service, and the universities are paying for it. And so we're starting universities and all the students in universities will pay for it. Would tend to be about $50 a month or $40 a month, whatever it is.

Mike (32:10): And then if they want their friends or relatives, they can just join in and they can pay their $500 a year and get the same kind of coverage for that. Cool. And then we're going to add dental to that. We're going to be adding as an alternate, another part of it, and general practitioners to that as well on the back end. But in the meantime, we're going start starting out with the mental health first.

Mike (32:33): You can't say it's mental health because no one likes that word mental. It's just people just don't think you're crazy, especially in India, you can't even use that word mental at all. So we use emotional well-being, behavioral health. Yeah. More to that basically.

Mike (32:51): It's like going to work every day and you have, you know, you have your distress of losing your job or doing something wrong, whatever. You go talk to this guy. Hey, everything's great. Everything's fine. You know what It's basically just So we're doing that all over the world.

Mike (33:05): Is a worldwide program. You're going have Australia has already approved it. London's already approved it.

Unknown Speaker (33:12): And

Mike (33:12): we're working here in Dallas in Richardson, the UTD Dallas is getting a budget rave to launch it there, and then we're gonna build And it then India is up and running, so we're very excited about that program. And this is all happening at the same time as Sheldon's going crazy, so it's just a combination of

Chris (33:33): That's awesome. Well, that's the cool thing that, that, that you're this amazing writer, director, actor, and then you're doing something that's going to change the world, which I love because we're all about life resumes and making a difference and an impact. And while you were talking, I was going down the rabbit hole even more so, and I'm coming across all your different awards. Like, just, this like, right, where was that one? This one right here is best feature film Hollywood, right?

Unknown Speaker (34:00): Like,

Chris (34:02): for those of you watching the show, Sheldon Mushugan is legit. This guy's not joking around. I mean, he's joking around, but you said what? Over six fifty, awards?

Unknown Speaker (34:14): Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Chris (34:16): That's crazy. It's just it's just amazing, man, what you've accomplished in in your in your lifetime. And the fact that you're doing something outside of it to help the world is even more amazing to me, which I love that stuff, man. I love it. That's fantastic, dude.

Chris (34:32): Good job.

Unknown Speaker (34:34): Thanks.

Dean Morgan (34:34): Sheldon's making them laugh and Dean's bringing them healthcare.

Mike (34:37): Yeah. Well, you know, ironically, one of the shows, if you look at my YouTube, there's a show there that, with Indian looking girl there. If you watch that part

Unknown Speaker (34:45): of it, Lighthouse Yeah.

Mike (34:48): Yeah. If you start if you watch that, the the first part of it, you'll see Sheldon first. That threw Sheldon in the mix. So I I I threw Sheldon together with the health care. So I think I'll get that info.

Chris (35:00): Alright. Here we go. Let's let's share it for our audience here real quick. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (35:04): To get rid of all your problems and concerns of the day. And you know what? It's always good to laugh once in a while. Speaking of laughter, I hear Sheldon over there. Sheldon, what are you doing?

Unknown Speaker (35:16): Hi, Dean. I'm so sorry. Sheldon, you can't say that. Nana nana boo boo. I know something you don't know.

Unknown Speaker (35:26): Alright, Sheldon. What is it? Well, have a place you can hang out and have fun and people will help you and take care of you. Listen. That's a great idea.

Unknown Speaker (35:38): It's a great place to go to have fun and relax and take your mind off all the problems and just laugh. It's fun to just laugh. Every day you should have fun and laugh. That's the best thing to do.

Speaker 4 (35:52): Hi there. This is actor Dean Morgan, CEO of Healthcare SMC. Thank you so much for watching today. I have a few partners, Jinora, Nidhi, and Zaria. We put together a program called The Lighthouse.

Speaker 4 (36:11): It's a fantastic program that helps you get through the day to day issues up here. Family, friends, work, anything related to that, we can help you get through the day. Every day is another day. One day at a time, they say, but this is really for you. This is for you, and it's a safe place.

Speaker 4 (36:40): No judgment, no problems, no nothing. You'll enjoy relaxation and being able to get through the day without all that craziness going on outside.

Unknown Speaker (36:51): That's fantastic, man. That's really cool. That is fantastic, dude.

Mike (36:58): We created that. We had to come up with another avenue to come through because we started with the regular health care and people say, We already have that. We already have that. I says, You know what, you have anything with mental health on it.

Unknown Speaker (37:10): Right, right.

Mike (37:11): And there's nothing, I mean, going to a psychiatrist or psychologist is paying $500 an hour or $100 an hour, whatever, and you're gone, you're done. With our program, even if you're off our program, we still follow-up and call you seeing how you're doing. You have to follow-up with people. My daughter had issues with drug issues and whatever, we took her to several different places and whatnot, And, and they you know, it helped her while she was there. But after she left, I mean, she didn't go back to drugs or anything, but, but she just, you know, just didn't, keep up the program.

Mike (37:47): Sometimes she

Unknown Speaker (37:48): was both

Unknown Speaker (37:49): more positive.

Chris (37:50): That's the problem. There's an amazing glitch in the system when you get somebody into detox and then they leave detox, they go to the thirty day, you know, twenty fourseven lockdown. Always have somebody to talk to, always have somebody to work through feelings and adjust back to being clean and sober. Then you get out of that thirty day spot. And then where do you go?

Chris (38:06): You go to a group home or a halfway house where if, because I've had experience with this. So if you have a female, you go into a four bedroom house that has 16 other girls and it's all drama and it's all you, you can't be, you can't be here. You can't, that's my pot spot in the fridge. That's my spot in the bathroom. That's not your turn.

Chris (38:23): So you come out this, this emotional high, right? Cause you like, you did it again, you accomplished it. You got clean and sober. You're, you're just, you're trucking along positive. Then you go to that situation and it just breaks you back down.

Chris (38:34): And then within thirty days you're using again. So there's a major disconnect that people don't realize that if you can't go back home because of whatever damage you caused there, after you get out of those thirty day lockdowns and your mindset is right, it just ends up going back down the rabbit hole for the most part, you're pushed that way because everybody around you, they're so just, I don't want to say assholes, but they're just, they're struggling with everything as well. So it just creates this monumental tornado of chaos that just goes nowhere but down. It's destructive. I mean, that's been my experience, you know?

Unknown Speaker (39:07): Yeah,

Mike (39:08): you're absolutely right. That's exactly the problem. And I was so frustrated on the phone with these people that'd say, Well, we'll help you, we'll help you. And you spend a thousand of dollars and then nothing gets done. My poor daughter is five hundred pounds and we try to get her mentally stable so she can lose the weight.

Mike (39:27): And she has to be able to start losing weight before she can go through the bypass or whatever.

Unknown Speaker (39:32): Right.

Mike (39:33): But it's just a struggle.

Unknown Speaker (39:35): It's just a It struggle.

Mike (39:38): I got so fed up with that. So that's why we came up with the idea of the mental health side of it and everybody needs it. It's worldwide, it's the same problem everywhere. Everywhere in the world, same problem.

Unknown Speaker (39:49): So

Mike (39:51): we came up with an idea and then we're, and now we're building the apps or trying to put together the best app we can. It's going to take about $300,000 to do it, but by the time we get done with the best app for this program, it'll be fantastic. I mean, people will be able to 02:00 in the morning, you feel depressed, you can call somebody and actually talk to a role.

Chris (40:12): So once you get this, once you get this all up and running, I want you coming back on because you'll, we kind of prefaced it before it came on the show. We close every show. We talk about how you're feeling suicidal, depressed, things like that, because we've both been impacted by that. And that, that is a big component to the mental health, behavioral health in the world. You know, like people don't, you can talk to somebody and two hours later they can kill themselves because they don't, they don't share, they don't.

Chris (40:36): And so we're big proponents on making sure we always educate everybody that watches our show at the end of it. This is who you call if you're feeling that way. So when you get all this done and you get that app back up and running, when you get it up and running, I want you coming back because we want to promote the hell out of that. Cause that, that is a game changer in the world of health, especially mental health, because the, what I heard, the text 988, their funding just went away. Still other avenues and stuff.

Chris (41:02): But yeah, for sure. We gotta have you back on and talk about that. Not that we're done. We have plenty of time, but I want you coming back on when that, when that, when that app's live so we can share it with everybody.

Mike (41:12): Well, yeah, absolutely. Be fantastic. Mean, it's a work in progress. Every day I work, I talk to India every day. And his name is Chris.

Mike (41:23): And I got Chris by accident from another program I started to work out with the healthcare and then I asked Chris, What in India did they need? And they came up with the mental health. I'm like, But you can't call it mental health. And I said, all right, well, and then I said, well, let's do the following. So I created the program for him and then I didn't hear from him for about five or six months and all of sudden he called me up and said, hey Dean, I'm ready.

Unknown Speaker (41:46): I said, what are you ready? I completely forgot what he was ready for.

Unknown Speaker (41:49): He says,

Mike (41:50): all right, I got the program ready. Said, oh, okay. So I I just started working it. And and we started and and, you know, the money's a lot less out there, so it doesn't cost much to put that together out there. So as opposed to here in The States, but, you know, but they can live on a $500, you know, for two weeks and they're happy, they're happy campers out there.

Unknown Speaker (42:10): Oh, nice.

Mike (42:12): It's much, it's much cheaper out there. But you can also have to charge a lot less money for those people too, because they can't

Unknown Speaker (42:17): afford it. Sure.

Mike (42:18): Right. So another part of it is the government. We're trying to get the government to help out, including here in The States. Have a few senators are working with us to help us get through the politics of this because universities are all also owned by the government as well. We have to go through that when they're making a budget so they can do this program for us.

Mike (42:40): Once the UTD Dallas is up and running, which I think probably by September, then they have seven other universities will kick up and they're all, they'll all be in the end. And after that, the whole world will wanna know what the heck is the, the lighthouse, the lighthouse is.

Chris (42:55): That's awesome. Look forward to that. You got any comments on this, Mike? Sitting there quietly.

Dean Morgan (43:00): No. Mental health is definitely something near and dear to my heart because I've been there. You know, I've I've lost my mind and there there is really no help. I'm with Chris. Good luck getting the government in this country to help do anything.

Dean Morgan (43:14): I really do wish you luck, but I just watched a vote the other well, it wasn't a vote. It was actually a congressman trying to get the rest of his constituents sitting there to admit that the current constitution does not allow for a third presidential term. You know what we heard? Crickets. Yeah.

Dean Morgan (43:38): Not one person wanted to admit that the current constitution does not allow for a third presidential term. I understand why we can't get anything done in this country Yep. After It's all smoke and mirrors, you know? So the fact that we don't look at mental health first is a travesty. So I agree with India wholeheartedly.

Dean Morgan (44:00): You need to start there. Yeah. Whatever you wanna call it, that's fine. But we need more people like you doing that kind of work because the current mental health in this country is been pretty much wrecked since the '80s when Reagan stopped the funding for that, right? Thanks to him.

Dean Morgan (44:22): Everybody ended up on the street.

Chris (44:25): Mean, you have, then you have the rampant, just social media and how that's completely taken over the world, kids' mental health and preteens' mental health. You know, you just every, the parents now, you know, this is parenting. Okay. Okay. Go over there.

Chris (44:44): Okay. Oh, that looks really good, Johnny. Oh yeah. Okay. Love you.

Chris (44:46): Oh yeah. Okay. You know, they're not, they're so disconnected from everyday life because it's all social media. So you don't have the way we probably all grew up. You know, you didn't have that as a blocker for people.

Chris (44:59): You had to engage with them socially. You had to go knock on doors and call on phones. Hey, can Dean come out and go play football with this, you know, down the street type thing? None of that exists anymore. It's all

Dean Morgan (45:09): these problem, one thing's all social media. This sucks. The other problem when we were growing up though, and Dean said it earlier, we were taught that if you had any kind of mental health problems, you were crazy. True. True.

Dean Morgan (45:22): So you went straight from maybe I just need to talk to somebody like we've been talking about here. Yeah. Sometimes you just need to talk it out. You're not crazy. You just need somebody else to confirm that everybody feels a certain way, right?

Unknown Speaker (45:34): Yeah. Sometimes you need to see a hug, man.

Dean Morgan (45:36): That too. We've all been there. Yeah. And that's a basic human need. What's the worst thing you can do to a human being?

Unknown Speaker (45:43): Put him in solitary confinement.

Chris (45:44): Yeah. Isolate him from human contact.

Dean Morgan (45:46): That is the worst thing you can do to a human being. We all need human contact of some kind. Chris is right. Sometimes you just need a hug.

Unknown Speaker (45:53): She's gonna hug, man.

Chris (45:54): I hug Nikki every day before she leaves and when we, before she goes to bed, I actually tuck Nikki into bed at night because she had hurt her hip, my wife, Dean. So, so we got in this suit with, we have this, my wife's five'two and she wanted this bed that literally I have to step up into and I'm, I'm about six feet tall, but she wanted this, you know, whatever. She's like a little Polly Pocket in this bed. So I, because she hurt her hip kickboxing and I had to help her into bed for about a week. And now it's this habit where every night I put her to bed, which is just funny.

Chris (46:21): But it's kind of cool because in the morning she gets up at 04:30 and goes and leaves and go works out. She'll wake me up, you know, give me a hug, kiss me, have a good day. So it's the first interaction I have every day. And it's the last interaction I have every day is with her, which is, which is phenomenal. I think, yeah, you know, and people need that.

Chris (46:38): You need the connection. You can, you need that. And that's the thing that social media does is it's taken that shit away. And it's, it's building walls that people can't really don't really realize that they're that are there anymore and they are. It's you know?

Mike (46:51): Well, with the kids, you mentioned the kids, we are starting at a younger age and we have a program through genetics, through us through genetic lab, shows exactly what kind of situation this kid is in a And younger so this way, before they grow up, they can fix the problem or at least put them on meds or whatever to get so we know. Like, my daughter had ADD when she was four, and I didn't believe her. I didn't believe the teachers. And it was very simple. My daughter was told, You need to go to this seat, and instead she went to that seat.

Mike (47:27): I mean, this is your seat. I mean, she still went to that seat, she was not paying attention to which her attention span wasn't there, as an example, but we have my partner's Jay Brenner, and he basically has a genetic program to help the kids when they're younger and move up. And we have another partner out of Australia that specializes in kids. And we're going to be able to help the kids when they're younger, So this way, they get to be adults like us, if you have ADD, ADHD, bipolar, or whatever it is, we can nip that in the bud before anything happens.

Unknown Speaker (48:07): Which is great.

Mike (48:07): Yeah. That's the start. I mean, so you have to start with the kids first. Otherwise, you're an adult, it's too late.

Dean Morgan (48:16): Agreed. I almost look at ADD or ADHD, Dean, as an evolution. I look at it differently than most people, right? Our education system to me, even when I was there, was so undesirable, right? What you're doing is you're teaching people to be obedient workers.

Dean Morgan (48:36): That's all you're doing. Yep. You're teaching them to regurgitate a bunch of useless knowledge that's, you know, that's what it is at the end of the day. Because most of us grow up to be factory workers or truck drivers or, you know, your specialty jobs

Chris (48:52): Service are a servants, that type of thing, mailman, you know.

Dean Morgan (48:56): So our current school system is basically set up to teach people to be obedient workers. The ADD and the ADHD, I firmly believe is an evolution in the human species that we were not meant to sit there and just focus on one thing, especially when you're five years old and six years old. Right? It's a horrible thing to ask a five year old little boy to sit for three hours and be attentive, right? Come on now.

Dean Morgan (49:24): All

Unknown Speaker (49:24): three of

Dean Morgan (49:25): us were a five year old boy at one time. You remember how much energy and I wish I had that energy right now, you know? That's what you were. You were like a little fireball. You had a sun inside you that it was just boundless, endless energy, and now you're asking those same kids to sit at a desk and pay attention to this, at that time, super old person telling them what to do.

Unknown Speaker (49:46): Know? Yep. Come on.

Mike (49:49): Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, in autogenetics, people ask me how old I am, I says, Well, how old do you think I am? I say, They say, About 50. And I says, nope, I'm 66.

Unknown Speaker (50:01): I wouldn't have guessed that.

Unknown Speaker (50:02): I would not have guessed I would not

Mike (50:03): have No. And my mother's side was she was a smoker, unfortunately, but she but all her side of the family would all look young. All look really young. Even when they're nineties, they look like they're like 70 or something. I mean, it's just a, it's just a good gene I have thankfully knock on wood.

Mike (50:22): So I, I don't feel my age. I, I do things like a 35, 40 year old does. And my, my mind is still crisp like a 40 year old. So, I guess still think I can some people some of my friends at my age, they can't remember what they ate for breakfast.

Unknown Speaker (50:38): Right. Right.

Unknown Speaker (50:40): That's that's that's always the the the the keb is saying, what'd eat for Beck and Bizzard? I don't know. I think I had some rotten toast or something, you know? But,

Unknown Speaker (50:49): Would

Dean Morgan (50:50): you not credit being creative with that, Dean? You've been creative your whole life. Would you not create credit being creative? With remaining young, not just looking young, but mentally, right?

Mike (51:04): Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that yeah. Basically, it does help, but I've always been everybody wants to be a movie star. I mean, it's always doing that kind of cool, but I started enjoying the acting when I started to feel, just get into it.

Mike (51:21): I mean, they're having fun with it as long as I was having fun with it. You know, when you start out in acting, you start out as an extra, right? So you basically do extra work and stuff like that. So when you're looking at the camera, my God, that's a camera. I was at there's a movie called My All American.

Mike (51:39): I don't know if you ever heard of it, but it's called My All American. It was a football movie about the guy in an Aggie that he lost his leg because of cancer or something. It was back in 1950. So the Legacy Casting asked asked me to audition for a guy who goes like this. Yay.

Mike (51:56): And I have these these dark glasses and everything. So I said, okay, fine. So long story short, I I go I go to the set, I mean, which is a a a cotton ball here in Dallas and k. I'm do do my thing. And then the guy and the director that guy said, you stop here.

Mike (52:12): I says, okay. You go that way. So I went I went to a different place than anybody else did. And all of a sudden, all the main casket was in front of me. And I'm like, what's going on here?

Mike (52:22): And so all of a sudden the camera pulls right up to my face. And I was like, wait a minute, what's going on here? Yeah. So I was like, so I was wearing a think and in '19 early 1960s, the hat, this the the thin, tie, and then the the glasses. And I'm sitting here like, wow.

Mike (52:40): What what's going on? So, long story short, if you watch the movie, at the very end of the movie, you're gonna see me. Me and this girl. Yeah. That's all you see in the in the in the whole movie.

Mike (52:50): And I even didn't even get credit for this movie. I just happened to be in the movie. It was just like, you just you just never you just never know. I mean, I mean There's another movie I did called, Ghoster. Remember from here to Ghoster?

Mike (53:04): I mean, was the I played the businessman in Ghoster. I had a whole scene of myself in that movie. It was a Lions game movie. A Lions game movie.

Unknown Speaker (53:13): Okay. What year would this been, Dean? What year would this have been?

Unknown Speaker (53:19): Just a couple years ago, two or three years ago. Okay. I I was probably I don't know, maybe it was what? Maybe three maybe three or four years ago. It goes it's just ghoster.

Mike (53:31): Okay. And then, if you look at that, it is like in the middle of the movie, and and this even though it's a Lions Gate film, they didn't put any known actors in there except for me. I happen to be in the middle of the and I happen to be in the middle of the of the film, so they didn't realize that I was, something until later. And they said, oh, we need we need to advertise this guy. So the so all it's done, they put the thumbprint as as me, in my scene and everything.

Unknown Speaker (53:57): It was kinda cool. Was more like a more like a Casper movie. Oh, With a with a a cartoon ghost.

Unknown Speaker (54:05): Okay. Alright.

Mike (54:06): And we we shot that in Oklahoma. Was kinda cool.

Unknown Speaker (54:09): Nice.

Mike (54:11): But I I learned I used to wear a hairpiece years ago, and, I have blue eyes, which is for the cameras, really piercing. So all the directors out here in Dallas always put me into their shows, even as an extra, they said, Oh, no, no, I need you in front of the camera.

Unknown Speaker (54:27): -:

Unknown Speaker (54:28): Yeah. -: So, wherever I

Unknown Speaker (54:29): was

Unknown Speaker (54:29): You

Chris (54:29): have a good presence, man. -: You Yeah, for know, I was told that when I was younger, when I did some theater work, I didn't understand what I meant back then, like this this this female actress, which was like our our main whoosh, like everybody aspired to be her. She was that good on stage. And we had a play and I came off when she passed me in the hall and she's like, You have a really good stage presence. I was like, Okay.

Chris (54:53): No idea what it meant. Like twenty years later, like, Holy shit. That was a huge compliment. So I can see that why they want you in front of the camera because you have a presence and an aura about you that you just, you kind of demand the space that you're in, which is, which is neat because it's rare. I mean, we've had a couple, we've had a couple people on now from Beverly.

Chris (55:12): We just had Travis on who was fantastic and he undersold himself like you wouldn't believe. Like, like started talking about making hats and shit. We're like, why is this guy on here for making hats? This came from Beverly. And then once we started poking and prodding him, we realized, holy shit, kind of like with you, which is why we don't do a lot of pregame research because we want, we want the conversation to be real.

Chris (55:34): So our reactions to who you are and what you've done in your life, it's all genuine reactions. None of it's faked because this is how we roll it. It's more engaging for us as, as the hosts. I think it's more engaging for you as the guests. And it's definitely more engaging for our people that watch us because we keep growing different countries.

Chris (55:52): And it's because people like you have these amazing life resumes that you just go out and do more things to help humanity, not just yourself. I love it, man. I just love it. Absolutely.

Mike (56:01): Also another thing, did you see, on my YouTube, there's another, it's called Surfin bird. You've heard, know for Surfin Bird, everybody's heard about the bird, you know? Oh, yeah. Well, I've I've as a as my kids were getting growing older. I mean, younger.

Mike (56:19): Younger I was going over. I wanted to do I wanted to sing that song, but I wasn't sure how if I'd do it. So I said and my wife and I talked about, Why don't you do it as Sheldon? I said

Unknown Speaker (56:27): There you go.

Mike (56:28): Okay. So I went ahead and I I put the Sheldon stuff together and I I had a live band. Did a live studio.

Unknown Speaker (56:35): Okay.

Mike (56:35): And you wanna pull it up, it's on YouTube there.

Unknown Speaker (56:38): And what's it called again?

Unknown Speaker (56:40): The surfing bird.

Unknown Speaker (56:42): Surfing bird.

Unknown Speaker (56:44): Surfing bird. Funny, funny, funny. That's published.

Unknown Speaker (56:48): Can't wait to dig into your YouTube, Dean.

Unknown Speaker (56:49): Is it gonna be under a video or a short?

Mike (56:52): It it's a it's a it's a video. Okay.

Chris (56:56): Yeah. Because I have them up. There's just a lot of them.

Unknown Speaker (56:58): Yeah, I know.

Chris (56:59): I got the vampire wrestler, the wedding, the Halloween.

Unknown Speaker (57:05): Yeah. I try to hit all the all the different things here. Let's see here. Where are we at here?

Unknown Speaker (57:10): Schirfenberg. Schirfenberg.

Unknown Speaker (57:12): Then you

Chris (57:14): Birthday Stooges, the mocker.

Mike (57:20): Oh, there it is. Sheldon Mashuga does Serfenberg.

Unknown Speaker (57:23): Serfenberg. What what's it under? It

Mike (57:26): says Sheldon Mashuga that does Serfenberg.

Chris (57:30): When I'm asking you, I'm on I'm on the YouTube channel, but what where is it under home? Yeah. Where'd you find it? Yeah. Where'd you find it on your YouTube channel?

Mike (57:37): It's on under videos. Okay. It's yeah. It's called Sheldon Sheldon Mushigan does surfing bird.

Unknown Speaker (57:45): Yeah. I'm still looking. I was on the I was sitting I was on a different thing. I got I'm on the SEM delay. Because you have so much stuff, which isn't a bad thing.

Unknown Speaker (57:54): I got the Jewish Christmas. I'm seeing I'm seeing the Jewish Christmas. Sheldon's cat, freaky Passover.

Mike (58:03): Sheldon's cat was kinda funny because I was think people thought it was porn. The original the original thing about Sheldon's cat was Sheldon gets some pussy. But but but but the but they didn't realize, and I put the word cat underneath, next to it. Okay. It was the was a it was basically a joke about Sheldon doing a he never had sex before, right?

Mike (58:28): So at the very end of the show, my girlfriend and I are about to have sex, and then she brings out this pussycat. Nice.

Unknown Speaker (58:36): Nice. That's hilarious.

Chris (58:37): Okay. So tell me, you totally squirrel moment. What am I looking for again?

Mike (58:42): Sheldon Masjuga that does, Sheldon Masjuga that does surf and bird.

Chris (58:45): Surf and okay. I'm still looking. I don't know. Can't find a surf and bird surf and bird. Where is it?

Chris (58:51): Oh, there it is. Serf and Berg. I thought you were saying Serf

Unknown Speaker (58:53): and Berg, man. Bird. I No, got bird.

Chris (58:55): I got got it now. Sorry. Sorry. Switched to Sanca, man.

Mike (59:01): No worries. That's, I did some There

Unknown Speaker (59:06): it is.

Unknown Speaker (59:08): You gotta pull that one up. Funny. Yeah. Fart jokes. Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (59:13): No, you had fart jokes and farting in the back of the squad car from the last time giving people a bird. Almost died. You can't do that Sheldon. That ain't gonna work.

Unknown Speaker (59:24): Well, it's not that. I'm giving the surfing bird. What's the surfing bird? Let me show you. I bet everybody's heard about the bird.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:02): So who is the who's the who's the chick in the, in the suit?

Mike (1:02:07): Her name is the Reggie Luthier. I did a show with her one time, when I first met her. It was called the forty eight hour film festival. Oh, -And she the it was kinda weird because she's, like, thirty years younger than I am, and she's actually my girlfriend in the show. -Oh, right on.

Mike (1:02:27): -And so and so what happened was I they asked me to do a bit with her where, I was the lead and she was the girlfriend and, but the this started out with me me making out with her. And I'm like and I and I said to them, I says, you didn't realize that I'm thirty years older than this girl. He says, yeah, we don't have anybody else and you're that you're in. I said, so I had to ask her if that was okay with her. She said, fine, no problem.

Mike (1:02:53): I'm I'm honored. She said, I says, okay. So we ended up, doing that show. And then, and then after that I said, you know what? Maybe she might be funny to be, Sheldon's girlfriend.

Mike (1:03:04): -So, so I got so because that was a horror flick, and then it went from horror flick to Sheldon, so -Cool. That's where I got her. She was originally just doing, just basic stuff around, you know, the the crew work. -Prew work. -Okay.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:20): Okay.

Mike (1:03:21): -I mean, then she ended up being a little actor, so I said, Okay. So we did the acting thing. And then James, I I was on Murder Made Me Famous. -Okay. -And on the TV show Murder Made Me Famous.

Mike (1:03:33): -It was, Ted Bundy. -Nice. -And,

Unknown Speaker (1:03:37): -Nice.

Mike (1:03:37): And I was Yeah, we did Ted Bundy, and I was a detective, and James was a detective. And I met him on set of that show, and then we we hit it off. We I helped him with his lines, and we ended up, doing -Nice. The bit together. And then, and now it's on the You know, it's on reels.

Mike (1:03:53): Can watch it on reels.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:54): -Cool.

Mike (1:03:55): So that was kind of that's not how we got James. And James and I have been together since then, since probably, I don't know, twenty fourteen, thirteen, something like

Unknown Speaker (1:04:06): that. Nice.

Mike (1:04:07): So, yeah, when you have when you have a cast and that we have Josephine who was the Chinese girl. I got her from that same show that I did the the Saturday Night Live type thing here in Dallas. And then she's very funny. So I figured we'd use hers for so between the we were the four of us were the whole thing or the cast, the main cast for Sheldon. Nice.

Mike (1:04:31): And so that's how we got together. Stayed together. Now the two girls have stopped doing Sheldon stuff, they're doing whatever they want to do, they're off. Yeah. And so now if I need Beverly came up with a girlfriend for me that used to work for Saturday Night Live, forgot her name, but she wants me to work with and maybe work out for the I have three motion one of them is based on the whoopee cushion.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:05): Yeah, we're basically done.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:07): That's a shitty story. I

Mike (1:05:09): thought to myself, I needed something to do with Fart jokes, I know, whoopee cushion. Then with Back to the Future, let do a Back to the Future one. I don't know if I publicized that or not. No, haven't. I have an actual reel for that one, but I don't think it's on YouTube.

Mike (1:05:27): I think it's on YouTube, but it's not public for YouTube. But anyway, it's a movie about how Sheldon goes back in time and because grandpa gave gave away the whoopee cushion to his his partner and and he lost all the money and everything. So Sheldon goes back in the future and then he fixes that. Long story short. And then this second movie I wrote was have you ever thought about putting Star Trek and loss of space in the same movie?

Mike (1:05:59): So so I I exactly So you I went ahead and I

Unknown Speaker (1:06:02): That's awesome.

Mike (1:06:03): That put that together and then basically Sheldon Sheldon wins a trip to Uranus. So so and then and then he gets lost in space.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:17): We get it.

Mike (1:06:18): And then and then the person that they they the company that put together the the whole the thing for them to go out there was people from Star Trek, know, like Spock. And and so, basically, Spock comes the you know, and then and then I put the marker And in there as the bad he and then and then they end up on on a planet that's full of cream and and candy. And then the moniker causes all kinds of trouble on there. Then the people from Lost in Space, the original cast from Lost in Space, be on that planet. Or at least people look alike, them anyway.

Mike (1:06:55): Then Star Trek would come save the day and save them. So that's a long story short. And the third movie I wrote was

Unknown Speaker (1:07:04): That's awesome.

Mike (1:07:05): It's called What a Schmuck. It's basically about Sheldon's a prequel on Sheldon, how Sheldon started, what the story was. I asked Beverly that should be first. She says, Nah, do that last. She said, Do that one last.

Mike (1:07:18): I says, Okay. So I got three three we we marked the pictures that are ready to go. I just didn't just need funding.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:24): Got a

Unknown Speaker (1:07:25): list of funding for all of them. So

Unknown Speaker (1:07:29): Nice. Right on. Right on. That's awesome, man. Very cool.

Chris (1:07:35): So we got about ten minutes here. What's on the horizon for Sheldon? Where can people find you? You referenced earlier when we started about movie coming out or you I'm sorry, not a movie coming out, that you signed an NDA for a TV show coming. And you're gonna, talk a little bit about that, what you can and what else is on the horizon for you.

Chris (1:07:55): And then obviously we talked earlier, we're gonna have you come back on when the app is launched so we can, we can dial in and focus more on the healthcare stuff and what you're doing for the worldwide health and mental health, which is fantastic by the way. But let's talk a little bit about more about the

Mike (1:08:08): On the, I met a manager, another manager out in LA, named Chris Jones. And then I have Michelle Young and they put together a pro program where

Unknown Speaker (1:08:20): Okay.

Mike (1:08:20): I did I did a lot James and I've never done live, so we did a live show in South by Southwest a couple a couple weeks ago. We were we were we were at Maggie Mays. And

Unknown Speaker (1:08:31): Oh, sweet.

Mike (1:08:31): And we actually did a shop, a skit, a half an hour skit there.

Unknown Speaker (1:08:35): -Okay.

Mike (1:08:36): -And then they're putting it together, the skit. We're gonna do the same skit again in Austin in June. And then in August or September, probably August, we're gonna do LA. And then we're gonna do it in New York as well. And then the more people watch, the longer the play will be, obviously.

Mike (1:08:54): We're starting out with a half an hour, and then if they want, I have enough material for an hour and a half. And so I wrote enough for the

Unknown Speaker (1:09:04): That's not surprising. Okay. Okay. Cool.

Mike (1:09:24): We're gonna have we're gonna have merchandise made and some people buy hats and and and, you know, shirts and that kind of thing.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:36): Yeah.

Mike (1:09:37): And then we're gonna do, where our website's almost complete. The new website's almost complete. And then we're, we're gonna do, send a PR blast on that. Cool. And then we're gonna have, like, fan a fan fair fan appreciation or type thing, a a website, whatever they can they And can do stuff then let's see what else we're gonna do.

Mike (1:10:02): I believe that that's the main and, of course, the TV show was just a throwing didn't even know where I was gonna be doing that. Right. That was because that was the last minute thing. After the Oscars, I didn't realize I was gonna be on TV show. So so this is something new.

Mike (1:10:17): I don't know. They have to you know, ABC, CBS, or Netflix have to pick up the show. It's a pilot first. All we have to see if it'll if it'll move forward, then then we'll see from there. But

Chris (1:10:27): Yeah. Now now question about pilots. Pilots don't air unless the show gets picked up. Correct? So it's just the pilot, you shoot the pilot, then you, you play it for all the executives and they decide if they're going to grab it.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:36): Right. Okay.

Chris (1:10:38): That's why usually the first TV show of every, every TV series is the pilot, but nobody sees that. So do they bring an audience in there, like a test audience to watch it or just the ANR? ANR is the wrong thing, but music world's ANR, TV world, you know, just the executives and shit, But they have people come in and watch it?

Mike (1:10:56): Yeah, execs. I I was on a couple of, pilots. You remember Mike May? Mike Mike Yes.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:01): Yep. Yep.

Mike (1:11:02): Okay. I played with him on a on a pilot that was, I forgot the name of the show, but it was about two guys who were transvestites. And I went to this party one time, was at a bar, and they're whipping around these dildos. Like, like, those, like, those are crazy. I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy.

Mike (1:11:25): And so,

Chris (1:11:26): it's a modern version, modern version of boost and buddies with Tom Hankins, Peter Scullery. Remember Yeah. That

Unknown Speaker (1:11:33): Oh yeah. Yeah. And so they were doing that. It didn't make it, obviously. Wasn't picked up,

Unknown Speaker (1:11:39): It'd by the probably get picked up now.

Mike (1:11:44): Possibly. I mean, but I met Mike. Mike May was one of the actors in it, and he also produced it. I saw Mike May from the School of Rock. I didn't know it was the same guy.

Mike (1:11:58): Oh yeah, I knew his face when I first saw him. So that's Mike May over the What's he doing?

Unknown Speaker (1:12:02): Right on. So

Unknown Speaker (1:12:03): I met him, he

Unknown Speaker (1:12:04): was kind

Mike (1:12:04): of a cool guy. And and the but there was another pilot I did call one Mississippi that was shot in the Galveston and that didn't make it either. So, you know, it depends. I mean, and there was another one I did. There was like three different ones.

Mike (1:12:19): There was a third one I did. Oh, this man is too many years ago. It was a religious one. And, I was, I was just playing extras and all those back in those days.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:30): None of

Mike (1:12:31): those got picked up. So I mean, you they spend thousands of dollars and I mean, on these, these pilots and then Sure. Nothing I mean, nothing is picked up. I mean, you know, they they had a deal on, like, on the on the Batman. You remember the original Batman, the the the Adam West version?

Unknown Speaker (1:12:47): Adam West. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Mike (1:12:49): They had a they had a they had a, a pilot before that that that was that was a that was a bust. You know what I mean? They had, they have pilots that people didn't even know I mean, existed with different with different actors all.

Chris (1:13:02): Well, yeah. I mean, everything everything starts out as a pilot. Everything. So it's just a matter of when it hits, if it hits or not, if it doesn't hit, then they go on the next one, go on the next one until they find the hit. Then you have a show like Friends who changes everybody's lives and is a game changer for a decade.

Chris (1:13:14): Seinfeld, The Office, Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine Nine, all those things started out as just little ideas, you know, and then they explode, which is cool.

Mike (1:13:24): But that's the show that I was supposed to do, in June is supposed to be kind of like The Office, similar.

Chris (1:13:29): Okay, cool. Right on. Now see, that to me would work because I like that kind of filmography cinematography that goes on. I like the kind of slapstick humor that's just stupid enough that you can turn your brain off and lose yourself in the show. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:41): Yep. That's awesome.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:43): Yeah. So that's all know. That's all he told me about. He didn't tell me about the name or how it's gonna work or anything,

Chris (1:13:49): but Okay, we'll cool. Well, Beverly chimed in because I took a picture of all of us on the show and she said that that's my funny guy, Dina, and my friend. There's So a shout out from Beverly for you.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:58): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:58): Thank you Beverly.

Chris (1:14:01): So if you guys want to learn about Dean Morgan, can Google Dean Morgan or you can also Google Sheldon Maschuguna because that's where you can really find him or just do Dean Morgan AKA Sheldon Maschuguna. Go watch his reels, go watch his YouTube channel. He's yet over a 100,000 subscribers, over what, 3,000,000 views. This guy is the real deal. Not only is he a fantastic, writer, director, and actor, but he's actually changing the world one country at a time with a revolutionary way to help people, deal through behavioral health, mental health, and just, you know, that part of the world, which is fantastic.

Chris (1:14:33): So definitely have you coming back, back on for that when that app drops, because I want to share that with the world. I'm sure Mike does too. Absolutely. Anytime you want to come back on, just shoot us an email and we'll get you scheduled. And if you're feeling sad or depressed or suicidal, I don't know how you could after watching, you know, the Sheldon Mushugana show, because like I'm tired talking to you because you just make us look like we're just, we haven't done shit in our lifetime.

Chris (1:15:00): You're amazing. No, but no bullshit. You're amazing. Fact that you gave us your time and that's the most value commodity that we can have as humans. You shared ninety minutes with us.

Chris (1:15:13): That means the world to us for sure. And I know Beverly loves the fact you're on here because Beverly's just Beverly's gold, man. We love Beverly. But if you are feeling sad, do a suicidal depression, don't do it. Go go run, go workout, go journal, go scream in a pillow, go talk to your neighbor, go to the grocery store and stand in the freezer aisle and just run-in the people and talk to them.

Chris (1:15:31): Somebody will help you kind of change your mindset. It's not that difficult. Just need to have that conversation. If you cannot find somebody to do that text 988 because somebody's standing by waiting to help talk you off that cliff, off that ledge. Tomorrow is a much better day with you and don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you decide to leave the world before you're supposed to.

Chris (1:15:49): For the Chris and Mike Show, I'm Chris He's Mike again. That's Dean Morgan, AKA Sheldon Mushugana. Nothing but love brother. Really, Dean, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been a blast.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:59): Thank you again, Dean.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:00): My pleasure. Pleasure. I'm looking forward to thinking again. I appreciate that.

Chris (1:16:04): Absolutely. Absolutely. You. Love you, brother. I'm getting stalked here again.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:08): Love you too, man.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:09): There it is.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:09): Yeah. I'll have it going. Take it easy.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:11): All right. See you, buddy. Don't sign

Unknown Speaker (1:16:13): off yet,

Unknown Speaker (1:16:13): Dean. Hold on one second. Don't sign off yet.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:15): Okay.