Jan. 21, 2026

#167 - Frederick "Jigg" Johnson - Pugilist

#167 - Frederick "Jigg" Johnson - Pugilist

In this engaging conversation, professional boxer Jigg Johnson shares insights into his boxing journey, including his recent fights, training challenges, and the importance of weight management. He discusses the mental aspects of boxing, the significance of sparring, and how he balances his boxing career with family life. Jigg also reflects on his future goals in the sport and the sacrifices he makes for his passion.

In this powerful conversation, Frederick "Jigg" Johnson, a professional boxer, discusses various aspects of boxing, including the recent Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight, the challenges of clinching, and the importance of proper training and preparation.

He also highlights the significance of creating opportunities for women in fitness through his Hip Hop Sweatshop class. The discussion touches on the impact of injuries in boxing, the evolution of boxing styles, and the influences that shaped his career. Johnson shares insights on defensive strategies and the physical demands of the sport, concluding with a call to action for women to join his fitness class.

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And we're live.
We are live on all kinds of

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things.
Right.

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All kinds of things.
All kinds of things.

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That's Jake Johnson right there.
I like to call you Jake, man.

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I know your name is Frederick,
but I like to call you Jake.

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That's cool.
Yeah.

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Up, up.
Yeah, it's up there, boys and

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girls.
This is the Chris and Mike show.

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He's Chris.
I'm Mike.

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Actually, no, I'm, I'm Chris.
He's Mike.

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And that's, this is Jake
Johnson.

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He's he's a return visor because
he is one of our super cool

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friends who's a boxer and he's
just a bad ass mofo.

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So we, we not.
Just a boxer.

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He's a professional boxer.
He is a professional boxer, he's

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a father of three little girls
and and just a really cool, very

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well spoken, humble individual.
Till you get into the ring and

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you stand toe to toe with him,
you're in all kinds of trouble.

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Jig will knock you on your ass.
I've seen it with my own eyes

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four times.
Now 4 * 4 times What's up Jake?

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How are you, man?
Back, brother.

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How you guys doing, man?
I'm good.

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We're doing great.
We're so glad you came back on

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the show, dude.
You were such a great

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conversation before.
So super excited to have you

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back on and talk about all the
things.

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It's good to be back.
Yeah.

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So what's what's going on in in
Jake Johnson's world right now?

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Oh.
Man, just working.

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I'm getting, I'm actually
getting ready to fight again

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March 6th.
And so, so yeah, I saw the

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boxing, my training life picking
up.

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I just started an all women's
fitness group that I had in the

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past.
I brought it back.

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Oh cool.
I saw that online, that's

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awesome man.
Oh yeah, we rolled it tomorrow

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morning at 9:30.
Outstanding man so one of the

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reasons that we wanted to have
you back on let's back up to

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your last fight when you were on
here last time you were

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promoting that fight actually I
think you've had two fights

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since then I.
Think so, yeah.

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So let's back up two fights ago.
How long did that last?

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That one?
I didn't see this last one.

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I, I was actually able to
subscribe online and I, I

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watched your fight, man, that
was awesome.

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Yeah, the the last one was was 2
rounds and a minute and 36

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seconds I believe.
Was that?

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For three rounds, 3 rounds, a
lot of my third round.

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You knocked him out in the third
round.

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Yes, Sir.
OK, I'm gone.

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Knock you out, Mama said.
Knock you.

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Out I got to see the aftermath
because you posted it online.

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Man that was a brutal knockout
to that dude.

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Just went down like a sack of
potatoes.

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So here's the guy that Jig beat
up in November of 2024.

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Oh, man, I do and go.
That was supposed to be my first

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knockout, man.
He wouldn't go away.

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It was supposed to.
He wouldn't go away.

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Oh, look at that action shot
dude, that's outstanding.

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Man that's a bad ass photo right
there.

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That yeah, that is that is the
great photo, dude.

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Right on.
So he, he wouldn't go down.

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You just kept beating him up and
he just wouldn't drop.

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Man, he was bleeding all over
out and blood was getting in my

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mouth and everything.
I just, oh, want him to go away.

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He wouldn't go away.
So as you were hitting him,

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blood was coming back on you.
It.

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Was like flying.
Oh my gosh, dude, doesn't that

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freak you out?
It didn't freak me out.

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It was like it was frustrating.
Jig was getting mad.

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Those are my shoes.
I just got those shoes, man.

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I wonder.
I love this.

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That's that's awesome.
The guy we got blood on my shoe.

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So, so you would have thought
that would have made you even

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more mad to hit him even harder.
Even though we've seen it, you

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know not, I mean we haven't felt
it, but we've seen what your

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punches can do.
Because again, you've had what

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did we decide 4 fights since you
came on the show first time?

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Yes, Sir.
And you knocked them all out.

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No2 Knockouts.
OK, two knockouts.

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Right on.
That guy we can just see.

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I wanted my first fight to build
first knockout, but yeah, he

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ain't going down.
So did you win that one by

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decision?
Yes, Sir.

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OK, because you're 4 and out,
right?

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Yes, Sir, all.
Right.

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Yep, Yep.
Now just to make me feel bad

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again, what weight class do you
fight at?

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What weight?
Well, middle Wilson, and which

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is how many pounds?
I've been in both classes from

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1:54 to 168.
That's why he makes me feel bad,

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Chris, because those pictures
that we just looked at, he's

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built like a brick shit house.
We're the same weight.

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Yeah.
Yeah, I don't look like jig.

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No, I figured that's why you're
going there.

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I just found your, I just found
your Frontline Warriors Fitness

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and Martial Arts page.
We followed that.

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I thought I followed it before,
so we're following that.

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I'm going to, I'm going to pull
up some of your pictures, man,

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because your pictures are
awesome.

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OK, so now go to the go to the
fight that you were promoting

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before you came on the last time
that would have been.

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I like this picture.
Was that your first knockout?

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This one right here.
No, that was the second.

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That was my third fight.
OK, third fight.

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OK, that's a hell of a picture
jig.

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Yeah.
That's awesome.

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So yeah, turn awake That that's
right, that dude.

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I had to get him out of there.
Yeah, yeah, he was because he

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would deal with we didn't get
more blood on your shoes.

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The.
Shoes are expensive, right?

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Yeah, they are.
That's what I fight was actually

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scheduled for six rounds.
Not too many bosses do 6 rounds

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on the third fight.
Oh, right on.

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How much weight did you have to
cut for that fight?

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That fight was I had to look
like 35 lbs.

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I had to get 35 off me.
Wow, so what's so, so we talked

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before about your pre, your pre
fight rituals, all that kind of

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stuff in the food.
So when you're dropping 35 lbs,

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what does that do to your your
power?

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Because obviously then you can,
you can eat a bunch of food, but

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you'd like said you don't eat
crazy, but so you weigh in, you

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meet the weight.
What does it do to your power in

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your behind, your punches and
stuff and your stamina in the

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ring?
Does it affect it because you

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had to drop the weight so much?
Yeah.

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Well, typically if you do it the
right way, you can bring

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everything back.
Speed, power.

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OK, yeah, but I had a terrible
way.

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But I had a lot of things going
on.

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So a lot of my wake up was just
running in Sauna Suit and Sauna

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Rome and that drain.
Yeah, I could see that because I

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when I wrestled in high school,
we had that every now and then.

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Had to wear those stupid, you
know sweat suits like you call

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them sauna suits that were just
you know and then you are you

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just weak man you you feel weak
afterwards at least I.

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Did what up Jake?
I was pretty out of it.

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I was pretty out of it during
that fight and my trying to know

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me.
So he kind of like kept me level

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headed and told me what to do.
That's good.

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That's what the trainers for
right keep you and keep you in

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check.
Yeah, I couldn't think for

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myself, so I had to really
listen to him.

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Well, you get super dehydrated
doing that, don't you?

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To the point where I can't think
clearly.

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Yeah, I definitely kind of think
clearly also really dehydrated.

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Like these last two fighters
actually should have been in the

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hospital instead of in the
boxing ring.

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But you sign a contract, you got
to do your job.

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Why should you have been in the
hospital?

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Because I dehydrated, I was.
No kidding.

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Yeah, that was on me though.
I'm a professional and Yep, I

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got to be more discipline with
my weight cut.

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Learned by doing right.
That's one of my favorite kids

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right there, man.
Right there.

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Oh, this is someone that you
coach.

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Nah, he he actually won.
Aaron Jacobs.

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Aaron Adam Jacobs, fighter,
Cuban kid.

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Cool.
He's nice.

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Very done.
I'm I'm thinking that a lot of

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boxers are nice outside the
ring.

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I mean, like nice entering.
He seemed like a nice guy

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outside right too.
But yeah, they can't kill him.

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He he fought on the last two
shows I've been on.

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Oh, right on.
I'm just I'm scrolling through

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some of your fight pictures
'cause I want to show the world.

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So now, when was your last
fight?

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It wasn't that long ago, was it?
You know, it was on October

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25th.
OK.

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This guy I just fought last,
like he was a little bit more

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skilled, well, a lot more
skilled in my previous

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appointments, so I had to be on
my game where.

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Yeah, that's the one that I was
able to watch.

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And he seemed like he he
definitely made you use all your

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skill set.
Oh yeah, I had to slip, roll,

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catch, counter everything.
That guy that was actually

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Jackie, Harry's son, the mother
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Sister.
Sister.

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Oh no shit.
Really.

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That's a song.
I remember her from 227 watching

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that with my great grandma.
She was on that, too.

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Yeah, that was a song.
He talked a lot of crap too.

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That was me too.
He was talking shit to you while

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you guys were fighting.
The whole fight.

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Really.
What was he saying?

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A lot like you don't got shit,
that's all you got.

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I ate that shit like bro.
Keep feeding me, Keep feeding

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me.
Now let me ask you this, Jake.

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Are you talking back to him?
Are you just getting madder?

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I ain't getting mad.
I'm I'm smiling and I'm talking

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back at certain points.
But what?

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What are you telling him?
I I just kept telling him I'm

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right here like but he keep
talking like I'm right here.

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Yeah.
See, there was a couple times

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where you were like telling him
to come at you and I thought

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that's what you were telling
him.

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That's why I'm asking.
Oh, no, I want to tell him.

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I want to tell him to come at
me.

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I was telling him like I'm right
here.

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Like he keeps saying, like he
was saying like bring that shit

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on, like I'm eating that shit.
You know?

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There ain't nothing behind that.
Ain't nothing.

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I'm like bro, I'm right here
like.

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I love that.
Sorry Nikki, text me.

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It's all good and.
Eventually he knocked his ass

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out.
Oh no, I couldn't get him.

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I couldn't get him.
I caught him a few times but he

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was pretty sturdy.
So, but you got the decision on

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that?
Right.

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No, I got unanimous.
Yeah.

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I'll have probably about 6:00.
I was like 60% in that fight

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because that was another bad way
but.

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So that that definitely has
something to do with your

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stamina then, right?
They do.

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So we had a guy on that he's,
he's not a boxer, but he trains

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like a boxer and he started
sparring.

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He had like he, he finally had
his first sparring match not too

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long ago.
And he physically he like he's

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in shape, like he's a specimen,
like, you know, like he's got

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the core, got the muscles, he's
cut, he's ripped.

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He's just, you look at him and
think, OK, this guy, you know,

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he's not going to have a
problem.

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And then so we asked him how his
first sparring match was, right.

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He said when the first minute he
was just dead because the cardio

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that he had was nothing compared
to the cardio that you actually

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have to have as a boxer.
A lot of a lot of people jump

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into boxing don't realize how
long 3 minutes is.

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Right.
Yeah, that's what he said.

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He's like, I was a minute in,
man, and I was, I was dead.

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I was beat.
Those were his exact words,

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Jake.
He was like a minute.

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That's all it took.
And.

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Yeah, that's all it took to make
him realize he's not in shape,

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which is mind boggling to me
because I mean, we watch boxing,

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right?
We're not boxers like you are.

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And, and from a spectator
standpoint, I mean, you're

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moving around and stuff, you
know, constantly with your feet,

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like we learned, like you had, I
remember what you told us before

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that that because I always
thought you'd look at the, at

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the, at the, with the waist or
the head and you're like, no,

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you look at their feet to where
they're going to go for their

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punches and stuff.
So when you're doing the jump

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rope and you're doing the
running, the cardio and all that

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kind of stuff, is that what is
that?

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What builds up your legs stamina
for all that moving around the

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ringers or other things you got
to do in order to have that to

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maintain that stamina for those
rounds?

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So it's a combination of things,
your cardio, your sprinting,

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conditioning and then your
boxing.

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Also your nutrition and what
you're doing outside of the gym

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like.
No Big Macs.

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Smoking, yeah, stuff like that,
yeah.

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Well, all that stuff, Big Macs.
So all that stuff play together.

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Yeah.
So it's not just one thing.

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You got to do everything.
Everything.

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And then you got to do
everything consistently.

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Right.
You can't take a day off, right?

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Yep.
So I look at cardio to help me

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with my strength and conditioner
in the boxing training.

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So you actually training to
train, you're doing your cardio

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and your strength and
conditioning to be in shape to

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do boxing training, you know,
shape and do boxing training so

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you can score on flight.
How many, how many, How many

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sparring matches will you do in
the course of of preparing for a

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fight?
Some people keep track.

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I could say every Wednesday,
every Tuesday, Thursday and

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Saturday.
OK, OK.

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Then let me.
Yeah, go ahead.

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It's along the same lines as
what you're asking.

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So a lot of MMA fighters that I
listen to on podcast, they will

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stop sparring at a certain point
before the fight comes up.

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Do you have a cut off date of
when you're not going to spar

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anymore?
Oh, fight week.

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The week before fight week.
We'll probably do like black

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sparring on Thursday and that
Saturday and no sparring on

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fight week.
OK, so a week out you're not?

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Well, you shouldn't be doing the
hard sparring.

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OK, so is, is, so what's the
difference between hard sparring

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like like hard light?
So hard sparring you're, you're

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hit and throwing punches, all
that kind of jazz, you know,

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moving, you know, all the kind
of like you're like you're

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fighting fighting, but not for
real, but pretty close.

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And then Light is just kind of
kicking back, kind of, hey,

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what's going on?
So hard sparring is like

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simulating like what you
actually going to get in an

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actual fight.
Oh, OK.

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People are not so looking in.
These two people can like best

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friends, but on outside looking
in you won't be able to tell

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'cause they.
Right.

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OK, gotcha.
Like spawn and should be just

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none but like skill like speed
and skill.

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OK being sharp like you hitting
people, but you should be not

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pulling on your punches but not
trying to load up.

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Right, You're not doing full,
you're not doing full impact

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punches.
You're hitting them, but you you

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know you're not going to drop
them with what you're hitting

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them with type thing.
Hey.

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Sir, you make sure you start
everything you worked on.

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Cool.
If you studied your opponent,

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y'all working on a specific
thing, making sure you're

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sticking to y'all game playing,
which I've been working on off

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count.
Now you're showing, you're

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showing pick then the camera.
Just try to switch everything

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up.
So you kind of have a pregame

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like you, you watch some of your
opponent, then you kind of know

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their tendencies, understand
things, things they may do

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right.
And so then you and your

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trainers come up with like this
game plan, how we're going to

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attack this person or defend
against these certain things.

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So so you're sparring matches
prior to a kind of ingraining

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that into into your game plan
per SE.

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Is that a good way to OK, that's
a good way to explain that.

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Right on.
OK then let me let me ask you

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this then.
Jake, you said that this guy

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tested you in ways that you had
not anticipated.

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What did you overlook leading up
to that fight in hindsight that

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you've worked on since then?
Well, overlooking, I don't know.

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I want to say I overlooked him.
OK.

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It's just I wouldn't, I wouldn't
say.

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That might have been.
He's Jake Johnson.

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Man, that might have been a.
Well, he still won the fight, so

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that's a bad word.
I I waited too long to start a

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weight cut that I needed to
take.

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Oh.
OK, Oh, that was the one where

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your trainer really came into
play to help you.

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Well, my last two fights, yeah.
Yeah, OK.

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That makes sense.
So are you going to are you

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going to, are you going to
continue cutting weight or are

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you going to stay in a?
Division I started already I'm

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I'm I'm doing things different
like I did in the beginning my

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own project.
I'm going to like that program I

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had.
So if you were to fight at your

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normal weight, what would your
What would your weight division

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be?
Or your weight class.

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Before.
OK.

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And you see you drop down.
Yeah, and we going to 160, this

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fight going back 160.
OK.

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And what do you weigh right now?
I don't.

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Know, I don't know, it's kind.
Of like, it's kind of like

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pretty fast, yes, Phillip Rivers
when he when he joined the

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Colts, right from coming from
your time with the first

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question he answers.
How much do we feel it's like

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right, like right now?
I have no idea man.

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Yeah, I'm tired.
I'm tired like 170 right now.

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OK, OK, that's not bad.
I mean, that's not bad.

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If you're going down TO16154160,
that's not bad.

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That's not a lot of weight to
cut.

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What do you, what do you try to
stay?

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Do you have a a weight you try
to maintain consistently?

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So that way when you do have to
cut, you're not cutting crazy.

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Well, I told myself that I was
going to stay within 1015 lbs on

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my weight class.
Yeah, but it didn't go that way.

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His baby.
And just like last week, kind of

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gave up, you know?
Yeah.

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Like, I announced that I was
done.

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But someone acted as my manager,
promoter.

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He had.
I had a talk with him.

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Yeah, Is that ash still?
Oh no, Ash as my partner, you

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know what I mean?
Oh, OK, we got you.

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Hey, Ash.
What up, Ash?

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That's my yeah, yeah, probably a
lot.

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Yeah, Ash is good people, man.
That's how we met you

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originally.
Ash reached out, Absolutely

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start talking, and here you are.
I'll do the Ash out of winning

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fighters.
Ash winning coach, man, I'm

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proud of him.
That's all.

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Congratulations.
Yeah, for sure.

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So you have announced, yeah, you
had announced that you were

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going to quit boxing.
Is that what I just heard you

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say?
I did.

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I thought I read that on
Facebook at one time and.

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Yeah, it was a lot of stuff
going on.

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OK.
Well, I had a lot of.

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Fun.
Yeah, well, I can't.

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I mean, and all athletes,
there's a sacrifice that has to

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be made, right?
Because you're an athlete and in

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order for you to be the top of
your game, you have to make a

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lot of sacrifices.
It's no different from from the

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musician side of it.
Like it's hard to have a family,

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it's hard to have kids, it's
hard to have relationships

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because you got to be so hyper
focused on the end game, which

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for you, every boxer's goal
should be to win the title,

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right?
And be the champion of the

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world.
So like, right.

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And then you have a day job on
top of that and then you have

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kids on top of that and you have
a home life on top of that.

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So that's what really good.
Yeah, that's what really got me.

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My kids, baby the my the most.
I was having trouble in school.

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And then one day my my middle
child, her name Ivy, she was

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like that.
You you never really have time.

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You always gotta go to boxing.
And that kind of like set me on

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my tails.
Oh yeah.

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Oh, that'll break your heart.
Yeah, Oh, I get it.

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It's like you had to see her
face when she said that.

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Like she was, she was real
serious.

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Like serious and shit.
So like, it made me think.

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And then top of that with my
daughter having trouble in

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school and that's like, my kids
miss me 'cause I get out of camp

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and then jump right back into
town.

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Yeah.
And then outside of camp, I'm

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working overnights.
So everything.

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And all they understand is
you're their dad.

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They don't give a shit about
anything else.

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I don't care about any excuse
you made.

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Nope.
Nope.

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Nope.
The brutal honesty of children,

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man.
Where you at, Dad?

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I'm not there.
Well, why not?

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Well, let me tell you.
So how did you rectify it in

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your mind to come back to I'm
going to take this seriously

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again and I'm going to be able
to do both things effectively

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because that couldn't have been
an easy decision to make.

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Well, originally what you said
about or Chris said about

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sacrifices, like you're having
to make an old sacrifice.

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I had to make it up in my mind
like it's going to be times I'm

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not going to be there, but I'm
trying to set a foundation for

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them.
I mean so.

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Now, did you talk to them on
their level about this?

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I did, but I don't care.
They might later on.

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So I we, we practicing like on a
bond activity that I'm taking in

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a different place.
Just like I'm sacrificing the

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train, I gotta make sure I can
sacrifice some, like my

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sleepless son to take them to
bond.

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And yeah, my oldest, I'm
listening to her like more.

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I don't even know.
She like anime and I love anime.

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So we started bonding over that.
That's cool.

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That's awesome.
I watched this show, Demon

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Slayer, and I asked her about it
and she said she already

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finished the show.
So that's how I thought I like

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anime.
And I mean, we started bonding

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over that.
That's cool.

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That is really cool.
Yeah, I used to do a thing with

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with daughter.
We used to do daddy daughter

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date nights.
Every Friday night.

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We would go somewhere like, you
know, telling sounds terrible,

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but McDonald's or something like
that.

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And and then we'd go to
Blockbuster when Blockbuster's

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still around, you know, rent a
video, come home, watch the

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movie, eat some popcorn, you
know, just this is before our

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son was born.
So it was the Daddy daughter day

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and it was cool because it kind
of you had that connection.

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And then later in life, we did a
thing where we called it Sunday

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evening dinners where she and I
would plan.

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We in the morning, we would
decide what we're going to have

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for dinner that night and we
would plan it out, go to the

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00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,960
store.
We would, you know, do stuff

447
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,360
from scratch.
Like I taught her how to make,

448
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,800
make lattice pie crust, you
know, we'd bake pies and stuff

449
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,280
and just whatever it was, she'd
have a complete hand and say and

450
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,040
everything we were doing.
And we would just, that was like

451
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,920
our, our time to bond on Sunday,
you know, And then when Jake

452
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,120
came along, it was different.
Little caveats we would do with

453
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,080
him as well.
So it's a cool thing to do just

454
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,480
even if it's only an hour a
week, as long as you can kind of

455
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,360
grab that time, you know, and
just hang out and do whatever it

456
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,040
it it, it will go a long way in
their lifetime of memories of,

457
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200
you know, my dad was busy.
He was where he was supporting

458
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,400
the family.
He was a boxer.

459
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,000
He was, you know, helping
training people.

460
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,400
But you know, every Thursday at
6:00 to 7:00, it was, it was me

461
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800
and dad just hanging out
watching, you know, anime stuff

462
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480
or, you know, going to the park
or whatever.

463
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,200
It was like Jake and I had this
thing where we would always, we

464
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,440
would play catch and it was, it
was we get to 100, you know, and

465
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520
if you, if you, the ball fell on
the ground, you got to start

466
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,920
over.
So we'd either get to 101 time

467
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,720
or take a 6-7 times to get to
100 consecutive back and forth,

468
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,120
whether it was with a baseball
or football.

469
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,120
But that was just little things
that you just did the bond and

470
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,920
it was, it was cool and simple
and it goes a long way.

471
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,640
So kudos to that man.
Keep digging on that and keep,

472
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,920
you know, this.
It's just building memories,

473
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,560
which is all it's about, right?
Build that legacy, you know, And

474
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320
it doesn't hurt.
Their dad's a bad ass boxer, so

475
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,440
that's cool, you know?
Yeah, my my daughter, I'm

476
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,920
realizing I don't know if she
thought I was like a square.

477
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,800
She realized it on my status now
because like everywhere she go,

478
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,840
like her teachers and like a
Bush job of people know me.

479
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960
That's cool.
Yeah, that's fun.

480
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,040
And also tell her, I mean, I got
a lot of eyes on you so.

481
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,640
Yeah, right.
Yep.

482
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,480
Let's Yeah.
That'd be fun when your

483
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600
daughters get to dating age and
the boys come pick pick them up

484
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,200
for a date and you just open the
door, you know, with your with

485
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,160
your I'm in the middle of the
ring.

486
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,920
Look like, what's up, man?
You know who I am, right?

487
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,040
Oh man.
But then you have your

488
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080
championship, but then you have
your championship belt.

489
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,800
So you can answer that with your
belt on, you know, get some

490
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,160
gloves, have your gloves on the
belt on and just stand there.

491
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600
You see that blood in my shoes?
Yeah, that was the last guy took

492
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,880
my daughter out and came home
late.

493
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,480
That would be fun.
That would be, that'd be a cool

494
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,880
fly in the wall moment, just to
see somebody pick up a a boxer's

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,440
daughter for a date.
And he answers the door with a

496
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920
belt on and gloves and he's all
sweating.

497
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,600
Just ready yet?
That's a great, that's a great

498
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,160
line for a, that's a great line
for a movie.

499
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,280
I wasn't mad that he hit me.
I was mad that he bled on my

500
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:38,320
shoes.
Just keep that in mind.

501
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440
Yeah, Yeah.
Exactly how much do boxing shoes

502
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,960
cost now that we go back to
that?

503
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,120
Yeah.
Those is like 125, yeah.

504
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Yeah, that's not you don't.
Yeah, don't blame my shoes.

505
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,640
I need too bad I just thought it
was white.

506
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Right.
That's yeah, yeah, You know, I

507
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,240
mean, it's now, do you, do you
use this like, like a lot of

508
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,240
like football players now,
right?

509
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,640
They won't wear the same shoes
every game.

510
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Do you Do you change shoes every
time you fight?

511
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Or I use those shoes twice.
OK.

512
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,880
And that's it.
Well, they comfortable like

513
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,840
those real sturdy shoes, like
the moving was not the real good

514
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,600
athletic shoe.
Yeah.

515
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,000
So I like using those.
I'm gonna get a different pair

516
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,320
though.
Gotcha.

517
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,120
I'm surprised it didn't cost
more.

518
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,160
That's why I asked that.
I, you know, I just figured they

519
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720
would be hell of a lot more
'cause it's a, it's a, it's a

520
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,160
boxing shoe, you know, and
everything.

521
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,400
Those written originally was on
Pacquiao's The Hyper KO, but he

522
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,840
said what he said about the
alphabet community and he I pull

523
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,200
his pill.
Did you?

524
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,360
So being a boxer, you're also a
boxing fan?

525
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Did you watch the the fiasco,
Jake Paulson and and Joshua?

526
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,160
I did.
Talk to us about it, Jake.

527
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,720
From a professional boxer, yeah.
What what happened was what was

528
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,600
supposed to happen.
I think people felt like Anthony

529
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Joshua was supposed to knock him
out in the first round, but he

530
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040
never been like smite of the
knock guy first round.

531
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,360
He's strategic.
He like, it's like you paint a

532
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:18,360
picture and yeah, you want that
picture to be finished how you

533
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,000
wanted to finish.
Right.

534
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,920
So he beat at him and beat at
him like, like what?

535
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Like how you explain he wanted
to take his soul.

536
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,320
I think that's what he did, took
his soul.

537
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
And then I agree.
I was going off of a script, but

538
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,840
if it wasn't on script there
that he was going to go by.

539
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,560
So when you're boxing somebody
and they hug you, right?

540
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,320
They, they, what are they?
They clench and shit like that.

541
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Like when Jake Paul was dropping
to his knees and hugging him and

542
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,480
shit.
How did, how frustrated does

543
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,920
that make you as somebody who's
trying to be on the offensive?

544
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920
I actually dealt with that with
my last fight.

545
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,040
I didn't have a clue how to get
out of that.

546
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Like he was a real good clinch
artist.

547
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,200
He can, he came, he had me in
certain walks were like OK, I

548
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,640
need to chill, get tired.
So that was the first time you

549
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560
had ever experienced that, where
somebody did that to you on that

550
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,240
level?
Yes, Sir.

551
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,920
And I didn't know how to get out
of.

552
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960
And it's, and they're not
getting points for that shit.

553
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,960
All they're doing is, is so when
they Clint, when they clench you

554
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
right, is that they call it when
they clench you, are they

555
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
putting their body weight on
you, trying to weigh you down?

556
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Somebody bigger than you and
he's tired.

557
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,560
He probably put his weight on
and try to long way down but he

558
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,240
was hurt.
Every time he clenched he was

559
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,480
hurt and.
So you hurt him and then he

560
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,360
hugged you.
Thank you.

561
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640
I got too close.
I should have kept my distance.

562
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,760
OK.
But that was not something I

563
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,280
need to experience.
When I hurt somebody, don't get

564
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,800
an opportunity to clench.
Keep my distance in, get him

565
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,640
out.
Keep jabbing, keep jabbing,

566
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,680
right?
Because that's what the jab is

567
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,280
for, right?
Is to keep that space between

568
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
the two.
Well when working my faints and

569
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880
letting him walk through
something like I learned from

570
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880
that fight a lot.
That's good.

571
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,240
I would assume you learn from
every fight because you're

572
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,760
fighting somebody different
every time, right?

573
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Yes, Sir, but I I really got the
opportunity to learn against

574
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:27,720
somebody with more skill.
Who's next?

575
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120
Who's next on the on the on the
Jig Johnson Horizon Our.

576
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,880
World got no we don't.
Got no opponent yet but OK, same

577
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,080
results hopefully.
I want to get him out before the

578
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
3rd.
I don't want to keep going a

579
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,640
distance.
Yeah, so now you're now you've

580
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440
now your, your fights now are 6
rounds long.

581
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400
No, just the my third fight was
6.

582
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,400
OK, So what are the typical
fights for for a young

583
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800
professional like yourself as
far as you're concerned?

584
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520
12/4?
Four.

585
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,240
OK, four.
Gotcha.

586
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,640
So by the time you hit like your
your A fight, you'll probably

587
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,040
bump it to six, OK.
And those are three minute

588
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,720
rounds.
Yes, Sir.

589
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,800
And what's what's the actual
time between the round A minute?

590
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,320
A minute.
OK, it seems longer on TVI don't

591
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
know why.
It does, right?

592
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320
It totally does now when you're
in the corner between rounds

593
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560
because you, you know, with TV
and stuff, they pan back and

594
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,440
forth.
So you can't really see

595
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400
everything that's going on for
that, for that time.

596
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,080
So obviously your trainer's
talking to, he's coaching you

597
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,800
up, he's giving you, you know,
hints and tips.

598
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,280
I do this.
Don't do that type thing.

599
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Are you hydrating?
Are they, I mean, I see, I see,

600
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,560
you know, they'll pull the, the,
the trunks out, kind of open up

601
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040
the air breathing.
I'm assuming that's for all that

602
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880
kind of jazz, everything they're
doing in the corner.

603
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Is it all, does it all have a
purpose or it's just kind of

604
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,000
random like, you know, sponge on
the head, cold water?

605
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Obviously I like, I like the ice
bag on the back of my neck and

606
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,160
my trying to pull on my trunks,
my trunks, 'cause he pulled in

607
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,760
my cup.
Your cup is like digging in your

608
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
stomach.
And oh, that's why.

609
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
OK.
That's why you see that was the

610
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680
good cooks though.
That's why you see your trainers

611
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,520
like pulling that day.
Yeah, yeah, you got to have a

612
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,400
cup when you box.
Oh, yeah, It's a surprise,

613
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,800
Surprise.
Football players don't wear

614
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,040
cups, man.
Because when you watch a

615
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440
football game every now and
then, you know, it's like, OK,

616
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,560
why aren't you wearing a cup,
man?

617
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,360
Like I.
Would I?

618
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Would be a pain, a fast hit.
I'll be shining these guys with

619
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,600
basketball wing shorts on, knees
out.

620
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Oh yeah.
It's like protect the manhood,

621
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,720
man.
Like I don't get that.

622
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,400
You know, it's I mean baseball
always right, you have to.

623
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,440
I was catching baseball.
So that thing was standard

624
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400
protocol.
Me too, right, This boxing have

625
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,320
to other now.
Have you ever been have you ever

626
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,960
been low blown with the cup on
and with because you have that

627
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,320
other thing too, right, You
guys, I don't know what it is.

628
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,440
It's it's how do you what is
that thing you wear?

629
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,880
It's like a girdle, but it's not
a girdle.

630
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,280
That's the Cup.
That's the all.

631
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,480
The whole thing's the cup.
Yeah, that's the whole thing.

632
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,880
Oh, OK.
I was thinking cup, cup, like

633
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,720
baseball cup.
OK, That whole thing's a cup.

634
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,520
OK, gotcha.
I didn't realize that either.

635
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,880
Yeah.
Yeah, tell you a growing area

636
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
then you got.
Yeah, yeah, OK.

637
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,600
You go all the way down there.
So I typed in boxer cup and I

638
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,760
get a bunch of motorcycles.
What is up with that?

639
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520
I'm not even sure.
I'm not either, man.

640
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,040
I I wanted to see a picture of
it and just to show the world

641
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880
what we're talking about.
I'm curious your answer is.

642
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,040
I'm curious your answer to this
question though.

643
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Have you ever been low bloat or
illegal hit sparring?

644
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Only in sparring.
Only in sparring I actually was

645
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760
like.
Did you want to kill your

646
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,400
sparring partner when he heard
it?

647
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Was it accidental?
It was accidental.

648
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840
It wasn't OK.
No, you still wanted to kill him

649
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,520
though, So that's really, I
don't want that stupid thing.

650
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360
So that's the cup, That's the
Boston Cup, which I didn't, I

651
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,360
didn't know.
I legit thought it was baseball

652
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,199
cup.
So I didn't know that whole that

653
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,520
whole piece right there was the
actual the actual cup itself.

654
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,520
Why did you do that thing?
Like there it is on the guy.

655
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,920
Like I had no idea that was the
whole.

656
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
That's what that makes sense
now, because I always wonder why

657
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,480
there, there you go there you
go.

658
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,000
That's where you put the
manhood.

659
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,719
OK, makes more sense now.
Totally makes more sense now.

660
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,040
That's why you have the the
trunks over it, so that you're

661
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,360
not, you're not out there in the
world.

662
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,639
And that still hurts when you
get hit in that, huh?

663
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,440
Yeah, it's if somebody hit you
the right way.

664
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,199
I I haven't been hurt severely.
Like I can see how people can

665
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:50,440
like drop down from getting hit
by full yeah like that or yeah.

666
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,719
And it really felt you have
somebody dated intentionally.

667
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,440
Like, I could imagine if Mike
Tyson's uppercut was a little

668
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960
too misguided and it hit right
there that you would drop to

669
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,320
your knees for a while.
Exactly, you know they give you

670
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,280
5 minutes to recover from a low
blow.

671
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,880
That still doesn't work.
If you've ever been hit the

672
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480
family jewels, it's the nausea.
Twice.

673
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,840
And that's, and that's right.
And it's not even from a boxer.

674
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,280
And balloons go off for Mike.
I mean, twice, twice enough

675
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
without being a professional
boxer, right.

676
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,880
So back to the the Jake Paul
nonsense.

677
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
So he broke his jaw.
He's got pins in his jaw in two

678
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,640
places now.
So I want you to, I want you to,

679
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,320
to tell us if this is accurate
or not.

680
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,480
Because all the bullshit online
you can't believe anymore.

681
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,360
So is it true that if you break
your jaw like that and you have

682
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,760
you have pins and stuff in your
jaw now that you can never box

683
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,720
again?
If it's permanent, I would

684
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,000
imagine it's old, yeah.
Apparently it's permanent, but

685
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,760
he doesn't act like it's going
to prevent him because now all

686
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,760
of a sudden, Tyson's like, oh,
I'm going to fight you again,

687
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,120
unscripted.
OK, Mike.

688
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Yeah.
You kind of already, you know,

689
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,960
the world knows you need the
money, which is cool.

690
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,000
You know, you do your thing, but
even I don't know if we talked

691
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,640
about that last time either, but
there's no way Tyson should not

692
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,640
have knocked Jake Paul down in
the first freaking round or two.

693
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,840
You know, he just yeah, it was,
it was, it was.

694
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,400
And the fact that he's still
fighting, we're talking to

695
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,560
somebody.
I think it was Mike the friend

696
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Michael Rose that that sparred
for the first time realized.

697
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,400
Holy shit, You know that the
older you get, the reason why

698
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,800
you get slower is because your
legs they're just they're, you

699
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,000
know, they just can't handle
the, the, the, the ring anymore,

700
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,400
right?
Like they just can't.

701
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,480
You can't no matter what you do.
You're like, if I'm I'm 55 years

702
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
old, I'm nowhere near in the
shape that you're in, but I

703
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,040
can't imagine getting into a
boxing ring right now at a 55

704
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,520
year old, even if I was in
boxing shape to do what you guys

705
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,640
have to do for three minutes.
That's the constant movement.

706
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:02,680
They always, they always say the
best transition athletes outside

707
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,520
of boxing that won a box, tennis
players, basketball players,

708
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,240
soccer players and swimming.
Soccer.

709
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,000
Soccer for sure.
Soccer.

710
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Yeah, Yeah.
That's nonstop.

711
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,480
In that field is gigantic.
Yeah, tennis.

712
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,720
Tennis.
Yeah, I should say that too.

713
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,160
I never thought it either.
Hockey would be another one.

714
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Hockey's crazy because hockey's
kind of like boxing.

715
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,840
I saw this thing there.
They're always moving.

716
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,520
The two hockey players got
pissed off each other and then

717
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680
suddenly ice and they straight
up were boxing.

718
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Oh, yeah, They were straight up
boxing.

719
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,080
It's boxing.
And the one guy, right?

720
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,800
And the one guy knocked got
knocked out.

721
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Like, I mean, they just I mean
they really they were just it

722
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,400
was like Rocky three at the end
with Mr. T and Balboa just going

723
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,240
at it and.
I had a hockey game back on

724
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,360
sagging.
Right.

725
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Yeah, yeah.
Hard for the game.

726
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,080
Did you have Mike Tyson's Punch
Out?

727
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,120
That was before my time, Chris.
Oh, I just dated myself.

728
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,320
That's sad.
I put a lot of quarters in that

729
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,640
game.
It's OK.

730
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,680
It's OK.
Yeah, Mike Tyson's Punch Out was

731
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,280
legit, dude.
It was pretty cool.

732
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,320
You had to.
You had, Yeah, you.

733
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,400
And once you got to Mike Tyson,
he kicked your ass like every 20

734
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,440
seconds.
It sucks.

735
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Are you going to beat him?
No, no, he's Tyson.

736
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,080
It was like.
Any other game back in the day,

737
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,080
there were hacks that you could
do, but no, it was impossible to

738
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,400
beat him once you got to him.
It was so frustrating.

739
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600
But it was, I mean, that's the
Tyson man.

740
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,960
That was his, his peak, right?
You just, you know, you can't

741
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,680
beat Tyson in a video game.
Sacrilegious.

742
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,520
You know, even with the hacks,
it just didn't work.

743
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,040
It's crazy.
But that's, you know, that's the

744
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,200
fun about it, right?
Video games, Yeah.

745
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,920
So what are you doing?
Your downtime Besides so.

746
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,800
So the kids are to school.
You got the day off.

747
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,120
You don't have to train.
What are you doing?

748
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,840
What are you doing just to chill
and relax?

749
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Well, now I've been getting
ready for this hit class like I

750
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,400
got to go to turn out with it's
all women.

751
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,400
It's called the hip hop
sweatshop.

752
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,720
So right now my time is going on
protecting that program is and

753
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,600
I'm pretty sore from that, but
it's also helping me get ready

754
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,920
for my fight.
So right now, in this downtime,

755
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,120
go ahead.
And this is this a new business?

756
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:20,640
No, it's my training business.
That's what I've been doing.

757
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Oh, that's right.
I had that up earlier.

758
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,400
OK.
Yeah, yeah.

759
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,160
I had this class five years ago.
Well, I brought it back.

760
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,840
Cool, what does this class
entail?

761
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,600
Because you said it specifically
for women, so why is it geared

762
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,800
towards women?
It's hit, it's synchronized

763
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,320
workouts.
It's just I got it right here.

764
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,680
A lot of men got stuff to do.
Right.

765
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Yeah, a lot of men have things
to do far as like boxing, for

766
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,280
example.
A lot of men come in box, you

767
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,960
got wrecked basketball leagues
and stuff like that's plenty of

768
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,600
stuff for men to do.
For women is not really much

769
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,000
going on for them to get
involved with.

770
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,320
So I just offered an outlet that
one can come and relax.

771
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,800
And get in shape, you know?
Yep, that's.

772
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,400
Really good health and well,
they have fun at the same time.

773
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,360
And there, there it is on the
screen like a hip hop sweatshop.

774
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,640
All women take awesome.
Get ready to sweat, sculpt and

775
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
vibe.
A fun high energy workout to hip

776
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,480
hop music designed to tone burn
calories and boost confidence

777
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,880
and then.
And then down below booty bands

778
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,600
provided.
They definitely don't feel it

779
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,800
there.
Yeah, my wife did something,

780
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,680
something kind of like that at
EOS.

781
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,200
I forget what it's called, but
I, I was there one day in the

782
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,320
weight room when another one of
those class was going on and I

783
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560
was like just at corner of my
eye, like damn, it's just, it's

784
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,000
non-stop, non-stop.
I'm like, that would kick

785
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,960
anybody's ass.
Oh yeah, but I'm a preach to

786
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,360
them man.
Like they hold each other

787
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,920
accountable, everybody just come
together and state today plan or

788
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,840
whatever their New Year's
resolution is or their own

789
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480
purpose of those right this
class, it definitely helped and.

790
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,520
That's cool.
Let me ask you this jig.

791
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,960
I just thought of this question.
So Chris and I obviously come

792
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,120
from the music world and we have
people that we looked up to that

793
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,960
inspired us to do what we do.
Who are your favorite boxers

794
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,880
that made you want to do this or
that you look up to even now

795
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,840
today?
#1 Roy Jones Junior like I was,

796
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800
I was a big fan of his since
before I knew I was going to

797
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960
even do boxing.
Right on.

798
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,400
You know, when I got into
boxing, I realized educational

799
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,120
purpose is you can't watch Roy
Jones.

800
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,640
Yeah, what you can't teach.
So educational purposes, Andre

801
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Ward and Floyd Mayweather was
two guys I really watched.

802
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Both shining examples of great
boxers for sure.

803
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Floyd will teach you how to not
get hit your entire career.

804
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,280
Yeah, I learned that.
I I learned that from talking to

805
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,720
Jig last time.
Like I didn't, I never realized

806
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:16,120
that Mayweather's whole entire
existence in life was not to get

807
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,560
hit in the ring.
Like, he drives me nuts watching

808
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,520
him, but right.
But it's such a frustrating

809
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,800
boxer to watch.
And well, he was pretty well

810
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,880
Floyd.
He he didn't have that kind of

811
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,520
care.
Oh, that's right.

812
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,240
Pretty, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he was kill you.

813
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,040
He really cared if you hit him
or not.

814
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,960
But when he started breaking his
hands and became Money

815
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Mayweather, that's the one
people called boring.

816
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Oh, that's what they are.
That's what they remember the

817
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,360
most.
They don't remember pretty well.

818
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,240
That's that's that's you say
that that's true, that's totally

819
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,240
true, which.
He's had two.

820
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,000
I didn't think about that.
I.

821
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Didn't think about that at all.
And his dad fought, right?

822
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,880
And his uncles.
Yeah, OK.

823
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Well, well.
His dad lost to Sugar Ray

824
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Leonard.
Oh, yeah, Sugar Ray, man, that's

825
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,240
right.
See, I'll see.

826
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,120
I grew up on those like Sugar
Ray, Marvelous Marvin Hagler,

827
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,160
Tommy Hearns.
You know, I think Ollie was

828
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,600
still around later.
In his prime, those guys, Sugar

829
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,240
Ray and Tommy Ryan and a little
bit of Hagler, but we don't got

830
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,680
the same style.
So it was more of a Sugar Ray.

831
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960
I watched him a lot.
Yeah.

832
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,440
Who do you think was the most
underrated boxer in in, in your

833
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,600
lifetime as far as who you
looked up to and saw just in

834
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,800
general?
The one that just he should have

835
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,440
got there, but he didn't.
That was a good question, huh?

836
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,960
That is a.
Great question.

837
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Because because there's tons of
boxers, right?

838
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,440
It's only only the few get to
the upper echelon of the sport

839
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,520
so.
Well, I won.

840
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:54,560
I know somebody who was pretty
much on their way, but tragedy

841
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,680
stuck in the rain.
Prichard Cologne, Puerto Rican

842
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,280
fighter.
He, he got handed back of the

843
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,800
head too many times and he
passed out and he went into a

844
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,360
calm.
He came out of a coma or

845
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,760
vegetable, you know.
Yeah.

846
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Oh, that's terrible, man.
You got hit in the back of the

847
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
head.
Too many times, though, I

848
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
watched that fight.
The referee was.

849
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,920
Hit how?
How do you get hit in the back

850
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,480
of the head?
It can be accidental.

851
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
You could throw a hook and he's
trying to slip the shot and in

852
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,680
the back, but it's dude, he kept
doing it and referee wasn't

853
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,040
really doing his job.
Yeah, but I feel like he would

854
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,880
have been a champion for a good
minute.

855
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Yeah, that much skill, That
much.

856
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,920
And put your Cologne like you
look up your stories.

857
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,320
Kind of sad especially you watch
that fight.

858
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,600
Yeah.
Have you ever taken any of those

859
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,800
kind of shots yourself, Jake?
Yeah, I've been in the back of

860
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,560
the head a few times.
What time?

861
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,400
What is it?
What is it?

862
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,200
Yeah, I was, yeah, I was just
cast that.

863
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,480
What's the difference of a of a
back of the headshot to just

864
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:11,920
square in the face?
Well, a back of the headshot and

865
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,960
pretty much rattle your brain a
little differently.

866
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,000
It's the reason why it's
illegal.

867
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,240
Your brains not supposed to go
from the back to the front I

868
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:24,120
would assume.
I gotta look up exactly how it

869
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,680
is to be able to explain to you
better, but.

870
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,360
It must be more dangerous like
you said, they wouldn't have

871
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,720
made it illegal.
It is.

872
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,200
I was like slightly concussed.
I didn't really know I was

873
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,960
concussed, but I just felt like
I was on, like I had to throw

874
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,360
up.
So I thought maybe a sign back

875
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,160
for training.
Yeah.

876
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:52,080
But well, the headaches to end
the irritation from the lights

877
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,360
on top of being nauseous.
Nauseous.

878
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,360
I looked it up.
That's what made me look it up.

879
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,640
And then I went to the hospital.
Yeah.

880
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Wow.
That's good.

881
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,240
That's good.
You went to the hospital.

882
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,480
Have you ever been concussed in
a fight?

883
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,320
Yeah.
That's not a lot of the fight

884
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,720
that happened is fine.
OK, OK.

885
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,360
But never in a fight.
You've never got concussions

886
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,800
from fighting.
That's 'cause you keep.

887
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,600
Your hands up, that's what.
That's the one thing that I

888
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,720
thought was when was was stupid
for Jake Paul in that fight with

889
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,240
with Anthea Joshua by the middle
of the.

890
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:28,760
First hand, his hands off.
Right.

891
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Well, he started and then his
hands are down here.

892
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,960
And so, so you as a boxer,
you're in the ring with

893
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,160
somebody.
His hands are down here.

894
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,920
That's just fair game in your
head, right?

895
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Like I'm going to light you up.
Yeah, I don't know what he was

896
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480
thinking like.
That's what I kept saying.

897
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,640
I'm not even a.
Boxer what?

898
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,040
Put your hands.
On your face.

899
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,320
He looked like he was in the
shoulder roll stance.

900
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,360
Like when people see me in the
shoulder roll, like my last

901
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,880
fight, like I was in the
shoulder roll a good amount of

902
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,040
times.
But I know how to use that

903
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,440
defense.
Like if somebody got an open

904
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,840
lane to my face, I'm pretty much
gonna roll it off my shoulder.

905
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,760
So my shoulder rolls like that,
Shoulders like you turn like

906
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,720
that.
Yeah, and you keep your chin,

907
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,280
cutting your shoulder and like
his angles, you got to use your

908
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,000
legs.
With it.

909
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,760
Oh, OK.
It's my shoot a shot.

910
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,800
You can ride your shoulder up,
you know, roll under, but it's

911
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,880
not it's more into that it's a
real response.

912
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,840
It's Floyd master that he but
yeah, far as Jake Paul, it

913
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
looked like he was in the show
roll position, but he didn't do

914
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,400
nothing.
No, he kept letting him hit him

915
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,440
in the face.
Yeah, and he kept dropping to

916
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,840
his knees and hugging him.
Yeah.

917
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,400
This time the way he was boxing
you 200 lbs like you need to be

918
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,000
bought like that as since
adolescence.

919
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,520
You can't just wait till you a
grown man and try to use the use

920
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,400
your feet like that's a real
draining style to try to use

921
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,760
like a like I leave box like
that moved around the entire

922
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,680
time.
Except people dope the rope a

923
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,600
dope stuff.
When he got older and his legs

924
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,440
wasn't the same.
Oh, so that's when I transferred

925
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,840
to that kind of stuff.
OK, see you shit you learned

926
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,160
talking to Jig man.
And when you your legs

927
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,160
everybody, won't they last be
the same?

928
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,240
I guess nobody last stay the
same as a a stuff for LeBron.

929
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:27,080
But but yeah, your lads start
tending to go as you get older.

930
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,600
But somebody like Jake Paul
don't try to use that style.

931
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,240
I could tell Anthony, Joshua,
Noah wasn't our That's why I

932
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:38,360
just kept walking forward.
Yeah, he did.

933
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,400
I was.
Yeah.

934
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,040
I was surprised it took him as
long as it did to knock him out.

935
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,920
But like you said, he was he was
painting his own picture.

936
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,520
You know, he's he's earning his
$92 million now.

937
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,520
He's quite.
Go ahead, Go ahead.

938
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Sorry.
No, I'm sorry.

939
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Go ahead.
Now we see somebody using the

940
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,600
whole ring like that.
They got to produce that in

941
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,560
shape to be able to box like
that the whole fight.

942
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,640
That makes sense.
Absolutely.

943
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,160
That totally makes sense.
People just know like float like

944
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,880
a butterfly, sting like a bee.
What they don't understand how

945
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,000
draining it is to be floating
like that.

946
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,960
Yeah, yeah, Especially for as
heavy as Ollie fought because he

947
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,920
was heavyweight, so.
And Jake, that was.

948
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:21,040
Right.
It's like, right?

949
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,600
That's true.
Knowing that style not going to

950
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,240
work like when I see him doing
that like.

951
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Game over, game over.
It's a lot easier for you and I

952
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,320
at our weight to bounce around
than it is somebody that's 225

953
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,480
definitely for an extended
period of time that that totally

954
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,200
makes sense.
Yep.

955
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,760
Absolutely, absolutely.
We got about 5 minutes left here

956
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,320
because we know you want to get
on with your life.

957
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,200
Anything you want to share,
anything you want to talk about,

958
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,760
promote, you know, now's your
chance to do that because you

959
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,640
know, we're all about helping
you get your name out there, my

960
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,280
friend.
Oh man, it's always good to talk

961
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,960
to you guys.
This hip hop sweatshop.

962
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,680
Yeah, I know, I know we touched
on that, but I really like for

963
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,960
the women in the area and
surround the area to check it

964
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,080
out at least once.
And tell everybody where you're

965
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:09,520
at.
Again, I'm.

966
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,440
Going to pull it up again too
while you're talking.

967
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,960
I'm at frontline warriors gym in
Bradenton, the address is on the

968
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,880
fire.
I'm sure Christian might post it

969
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,120
for me.
I'm going to pull it up right.

970
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Now pulling it up right now as
well.

971
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,480
Like whatever your fitness goals
are, it's a great addition to

972
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680
that.
Yep, so there it is.

973
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,280
It's at the 715 5th St.
E.

974
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,080
It's the frontline warrior gym.
You need to bring a yoga mat,

975
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,040
two 5 LB dumbbells and yourself,
your pretty ass self because

976
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,280
you're going to get in in shape.
You're going to sweat, sculpt

977
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,080
and vibe.
So you can find you can find Jig

978
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,040
on Instagram at AT action Jig
JIGG.

979
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,080
You can find him on Facebook at
Jig Johnson.

980
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,920
And then you can also on this on
this little flyer here.

981
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,240
You can text Coach Jig at
813-401-1993 For more

982
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,920
information about Hip Hop
Sweatshop as well as all his

983
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,120
upcoming endeavors in the boxing
world.

984
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,200
And real quick, while we're on
the subject, everybody start

985
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:16,080
going to the Chris and
mikeshow.com because Jake did

986
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,280
what he was asked.
And one of the reasons we're

987
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,080
asking people to go fill out the
registration form is now that's

988
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,320
there forever.
And whatever socials that Jake

989
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
wanted are there, they're linked
there.

990
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,840
So you guys go to our website
now, Chris and mikeshow.com, and

991
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,800
all the guests will be filling
out things that they want you to

992
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,480
go check out.
So his Instagram is there and

993
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,720
whatever else you put there.
I saw you had a couple things

994
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,760
there.
Yeah, that's really cool.

995
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Yeah, it's it's super cool and
it's cool.

996
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,200
It's cool too now, because last
time on the show we didn't have

997
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,760
a website yet, Jake.
Now we have a website.

998
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,200
Mike built the website.
It's.

999
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,400
Just another way for you guys to
promote yourself.

1000
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,920
Exactly.
And then we learned today, Mike

1001
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
learned he actually whenever we
do our shows now, they actually

1002
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,520
can be watched live on the
website.

1003
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,160
So it's an easy place to go.
Plus the fact that we've

1004
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,600
partnered with Riverside FM
because we do so all our stuff

1005
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,800
on Riverside FM.
So they helped absorb the cost

1006
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,560
first for the year for what we
spend money to do the podcast.

1007
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,720
So that's kind of neat.
We're finally a paid podcasting

1008
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,680
show, which is pretty neat.
Yeah.

1009
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,320
So shout out to Riverside FM.
We forget that.

1010
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,720
Shout out to you, Jake Johnson.
Man, you're super nice.

1011
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,880
Dude, you're such a such a your
life resume is fantastic.

1012
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,560
You're such a well spoken,
humble human until you get into

1013
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,480
that ring.
If you've never, ever watched

1014
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Jake Johnson fight, Google him.
Watch some of his fights.

1015
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,640
It's it's outstanding.
We showed some of his photos

1016
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,240
earlier in the podcast today.
Just even even last the first

1017
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,920
time you're on Ash afterwards
Ash was like, man, you guys got

1018
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,840
jigged a smile.
We pulled you out of your shell,

1019
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,000
man.
With you, he was you at your

1020
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,200
grandma's house that time.
And you, I think you just woke

1021
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,680
up and you were just, you were
so peace.

1022
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:04,200
OK.
Yeah, yeah.

1023
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,080
You were so at peace and just
relaxed.

1024
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,240
It's like, like, and I'm like
afterwards, like this guy's a

1025
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,320
boxer.
And then we watched your fight.

1026
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,200
Like holy shit.
He's a bad man when he gets in

1027
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,280
the ring, ladies and gentlemen,
I can tell you that.

1028
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,360
It's like that Pulp Fiction
scene right where where they're

1029
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,200
getting robbed at the at the
diner or the the breakfast

1030
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,880
place.
And oh.

1031
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,080
Yeah, Sandwich Jack.
Yeah, Sandwich Jack's carriage's

1032
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
like look in that bag in my my
wallet.

1033
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,320
How do I know which wallet?
Because it's a bad motherfucker.

1034
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,440
Oh, here you go.
You're awesome man.

1035
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200
Thank you so much for your time.
We appreciate.

1036
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,760
It hey, when you get an opponent
for your next fight, get a hold

1037
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
of Chris and we'll have you back
on to promote the upcoming

1038
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,960
fight.
Yeah, please.

1039
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Please do that, man.
For sure, for sure, because you

1040
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,400
know, we can be flexible on
fighters like crazy.

1041
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,840
So you figured that out.
You let us know, we'll get you

1042
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,040
back on for sure.
OK, cool, cool.

1043
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,960
Hey, as we always do, If you're
feeling sorrow, depressed,

1044
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,760
suicidal, don't do it.
Somebody will miss you.

1045
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,440
Somebody Loves You.
Don't leave a hole in somebody's

1046
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,160
heart because you choose not to
be here tomorrow.

1047
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Go outside for a run, go join a
hip hop class, go join a boxing

1048
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,600
gym.
Figure out something to kind of

1049
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,240
change your mindset and get
healthier outlook on life.

1050
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,920
If you can't find somebody, talk
to you.

1051
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Text 988.
Somebody is standing there ready

1052
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,640
to talk you off that ledge.
So you do wake up tomorrow and

1053
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,560
you are present in somebody
else's life because somebody

1054
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,440
does love you and they will miss
you if you're gone for Mike and

1055
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,880
Chris and Mr. Jig Johnson or,
you know, Frederick Johnson, it

1056
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,880
just doesn't roll with me, man.
You're Jig Tell.

1057
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,920
Hey, congratulations on the new
baby too, man.

1058
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,480
I love the I love the absolutely
father and, you know, enjoy that

1059
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,400
journey because dude, I'm
telling you, my kids are 30 and

1060
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,680
or 29 and 25 and it's it's like
that, man, little man, 6 years

1061
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,120
old, my grandson six years old
already.

1062
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,240
It's crazy.
Absolutely crazy.

1063
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,040
Cherish the moments, man.
Little things.

1064
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,680
Little things for sure.
Trust me.

1065
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,080
Until next time, everybody.
We'll see you.

1066
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Love you, Mike.
Love you, Jig.

1067
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,280
Love you too.
You're safe, man.

1068
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Have a great day.
Don't go anywhere yet.

1069
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,120
We'll make sure you get
uploaded.

1070
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,760
Oh, I hit stop, Mike.
I hit stop.

1071
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,240
Be on the trail behind your
eyes, feel yourself and meet

1072
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:40,200
your girl.
Take a moment.

1073
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,720
Look.
Until you see him fight your

1074
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:50,120
battle, that you must weer,
Fight your battle, but you must

1075
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:59,400
weer.
Who is your baby to you?

1076
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:18,160
Now you turn it, come down here,
we bounce all these things down

1077
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,320
from fighting, wait for the dead
when it's closer.

1078
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,320
I'm here for the wind.
You ain't no quizzes.

1079
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,880
We're playing spam and you
should.

1080
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,440
You put it on the almighty day
you gotta dream through in your

1081
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:45,440
life to keep our soul in every
man.

1082
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,680
Take the trail behind your eyes.
Feel the soul revolution now.

1083
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:59,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

1084
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Take a moment.
Look at you.

1085
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,080
See him fight the bail in two
more clear.

1086
00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:37,390
You gotta.
You gotta.

1087
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:39,470
You gotta.
You gotta.